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Trump CRUSHING Democrats, New Polls Show Democrats SINKING, GOP AHEAD Despite SMEARS | Timcast IRL

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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, there's a lot of bad press for Donald Trump, and despite all of this, the new poll that's coming out from Fox News is showing that Democrats' favorability has hit a new low, and the GOP is the favorite.
		Despite that, you know, they're still saying Democrats are expected to win in the midterms as of right now, even though Republicans are better off.
		Now, I don't like singular polls for obvious reasons, so we back this one up with civics.
		Sure enough, finding the exact same thing.
		Democrats are going down.
		They're down and getting worse.
		And they are spiraling.
		So how is it that the media keeps up this narrative of Trump bad?
		You know what I assume at this point?
		There's a small faction of anti-Trump obsessed people that watch literally every single piece of news content about them.
		And then regular people largely carry on with their day.
		But we do get a bunch of other news outside of the obvious political stuff.
		Trump says he wants to bring...
		Back, Alcatraz.
		Okay.
		He wants it as a symbol to strike fear into the hearts of criminal aliens.
		And so, yeah, we'll talk about that.
		And then, of course, we have the Shiloh Hendricks story.
		This is a woman who allegedly used a racial slur on a child, against a child.
		And some guy filmed her, uploaded the video trying to ruin her life, trying to cancel her.
		Instead, she has near $700,000 raised.
		Matt Walsh put his video out earlier where he said, good, this will stop cancel culture.
		Showing these people that if you try to do this, it will backfire.
		And he says she raised half a million.
		Hope she raises half a million more.
		So we'll get into all of those news stories, my friends.
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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Nick Adams.
unidentified		G'day, Tim.
		Great to be here.
		First time on the show.
		Loving it.
		Having a great time already.
		Should be good.
		Do you want me to tell them a little bit more about who I am?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, who are you?
unidentified		Well, as you can probably tell, I was born down under, but destined to be on top.
		Legal immigrant.
		Naturalised US citizen, have gone on to live the American dream, was with President Trump from day one, the 16th of June 2015, became President Trump's favourite author, run a big organisation that is all about making sure that the next generation of Americans understand what it means to be an American.
		So we have kid-friendly versions of the Constitution, Declaration of Independence, Federalist Papers, so that they understand the founding values.
		I'm a potential appointee since 2020, since President Trump's first term.
		He put me in the board of the Smithsonian, the Wilson Centre.
		So I've been there.
		I've got about three and a half million followers on social media, starting a new organisation called 1A Warriors, which is all about protecting the First Amendment and freedom, not just freedom of speech, but freedom after speech.
		I'm MAGA, America First, small government.
		But when government is needed, I believe it should go hard, fast, and get results.
		I think the Democrats are about three things.
		Illegal aliens, criminals, and perversion.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Sounds about right.
		All right, well, this will be fun.
		Thanks for hanging out.
		We got Shane hanging out.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Welcome to the show.
		Shane Cashman, host of Inverted World Live.
		Last night I had a chef who worked at Bohemian Grove for eight years.
		He'd climbed the owl.
		He'd seen the sacrifices.
		I shared some pictures from inside the club.
		Pretty wild episode.
		You can find that on YouTube and Rumble at Tales from the Inverted World.
		We go live every Sunday at 6 p.m. Eastern.
		What's up?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		What's up, Shane?
		I am Phil that remains.
		My name is Phil Labonte.
		I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.
		I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
		So let's get into it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here's the news from Fox News, ladies and gentlemen.
		Fox News poll, Democrats' favorability hits new lows, still favored over GOP in 2026 midterms.
		Now, this is a story I've used.
		Admittedly, it is from last week when this poll dropped.
		But it is a consistent trend that we have seen.
		And now we're backing it up with civics data.
		We've got this.
		Do you have a favorable or unfavorable view of the Democratic Party?
		And it is 59% unfavorable.
		30% favorable and declining.
		And you compare this with the Republican Party, and you have 56% unfavorable, still not very good, but better than Democrats, and 38% favorability.
		Now, the reason this matters is we've got J.B. Pritzker calling out Democrats.
		We've got AOC getting heckled by Democrats.
		You've got Beto O 'Rourke now slamming Democrats as lazy and weak.
		David Hogg trying to primary Democrats.
		It is a free-for-all.
		of chaos in the Democratic Party.
		They are spiraling out of control.
		And despite all of the hit pieces, all of the negative press that Trump is facing, he is still more favorable than most, I think, all of the Democrat personnel.
		None of them are registering.
		So, panel.
		Why is this happening to the Democrats, and how is Trump still beating them?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I'm surprised David Hogg hasn't helped the image of the Democratic Party.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		Shocking.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that crazy?
unidentified		Absolutely shocking.
		Can't believe it.
		David Hogg.
		I think he's had a charisma bypass, old David.
		But, you know, at the end of the day...
		It is kind of a symbol of where the Democrats are at.
		Like I say, they have become the party of illegal aliens, crime and perversion.
		I mean, you even look at one of the stories that came out earlier today about how the Trump administration and RFK are protecting beagles.
		Beagles have been, you know, killed.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Fauci.
unidentified		Right, the evil Fauci.
		And it used to be that that kind of stuff was just the domain of the left, right?
		But now they've ceded everything pretty much to conservatives, to the Trump people.
		And that's just a sign of their decline.
		The media is just an arm of the DNC, really, when you break it down.
		I think the Democrats are in a very bad way.
		I don't know about you guys, but for me, since the 20th of December, it's been like Christmas every morning.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		On illegal immigration, which is one of the pillars that Donald Trump was elected on.
		Part of the reason why I think Donald Trump still has a generally positive opinion or favorability is because of his success at the border.
		That was the thing that he made such a big deal about when he first ran in 2016.
		It's what he really ran on in 2020.
		In 2023, or 2024, leading up to this election.
		And he's really delivered.
		So the situation at the border, there's no longer thousands of illegals coming over.
		I'm sure there are plenty of people out there that will say, well, they haven't.
		I would love to see every single person that came here illegally sent home.
		I would love it.
		But he is delivering on the things that people really care the most about, and I think that really matters.
		As for the Democrats, whether it's their take on the border or people like Democrats...
		State Senator Scott Wiener in California making remarks like, well, if there's a sex offender registry, that's going to be a bad thing for the LGBT lobby.
		And it's like, well, wait a minute, why?
		That's a funny thing to say.
		But those are the kind of things that you get from the Democrats.
		They don't want to actually protect the vulnerable.
		They don't want to protect women in women's spaces.
		They want men to be able to go into those spaces.
		They don't want to protect children.
		They don't want to protect anything at all that is good and wholesome.
		They literally always side with the bad guys.
		And they've been doing it vocally and with enthusiasm for the past.
		At least for the past 10 years.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		His inauguration speech was a stark contrast to the entire Democratic Party's platform.
		It was like a return to law and order, beauty and legacy.
		I love those things.
unidentified		Shane, you're on the money.
		Look, Democrats, they'll crush your business.
		They'll get you killed by an illegal.
		They'll make your home unaffordable.
		I mean, there is nothing that they offer in 2025.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		To that point, I think that it was President Trump, or maybe it wasn't, but it was some Republican talking about the shower heads that people are allowed to buy.
		There is not, and it's because they always use climate change as a reason for telling you what kind of gas, what kind of stove you can have in your home.
		Telling you how much water you can have, how much water your toilet will use.
		Telling you what you can do with your property.
		Telling you what kind of car you can drive.
		Telling you, essentially there's not an aspect of your life that the Democrats don't want to not only control, but make worse decisions.
unidentified		That's why Tulsi left.
		That's why RFK left.
		That's why so many ordinary voters have left.
		They're not even a really serious political party anymore.
		It's really just a fundraising pyramid scheme.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, Trump came out and he was rather moderate.
		And he offered up a bunch of reasonable solutions to issues that people were concerned about.
		Hey, let's secure the border.
		Hey, let's deport illegal immigrants.
		He was always on about that.
		He was favored by a lot of union guys.
		The tariffs are favored by a lot of the auto manufacturers.
		The Democrats don't understand.
		They keep approaching Trump as whatever.
		Everyone hates him, so whatever he does is bad.
		Okay, well, if you do that, you'll be on the wrong side of everything.
		Trump need only just say reasonable things.
		It's a joke.
		If Trump came out in favor of oxygen, they'd hold their breath.
		So that's why they've adopted the back end of every 80-20 issue.
		They're like, let's choose the most unfavorable thing.
		They are survived, in my opinion, largely by boomers.
		And I mean no disrespect to boomers in general.
		What I'm saying is, you look at that poll out of Canada, where they were tracking the election, and it said, you know, what issues do you care about?
		And Gen Z Canadians are like the cost of living, jobs, housing.
		And when you ask the boomers in Canada, they said Trump.
		So this poll came out from Real Clear Politics as well a couple weeks ago.
		All demographics have a net approval of Donald Trump except boomers.
		And it's probably because they're watching cable TV and everybody else is out.
		Everybody else is watching shows like this or getting their news from social media and they're like, okay, I get it.
		Trump's not perfect, but he's all right.
		But if you're watching cable TV, it's the devil.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		We've talked about how the Democrat Party is faceless.
		They don't have a real candidate right now.
		And then Trump is the face of politics in general.
		And I was thinking about when I was at the primary debate in California for the Republicans, Trump wasn't there.
		But his absence was more of a presence than the people on stage.
		It's wild.
unidentified		Conspicuous absence.
		Look, Trump isn't about right or left.
		He's about right or wrong.
		And that's what the left and the Democrats in this country have missed, I think, for so long.
		And that's why people love him.
		Trump got elected because young people and young men in particular know that people like Obama and Biden cut their opportunity.
		They darkened their American dream.
		President Trump is the embodiment of success and the pursuit of happiness, and that's the stuff that appeals to people.
		That's the stuff that motivates people, having a ladder of opportunity and seeing a man that just thrives, doesn't just survive, no matter what they throw at him.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		The point that you make there, Nick, that he thrives, he really does take whatever's thrown at him.
		I mean, he manages to capitalize on it in a way that, in my opinion, is actually fairly unique when it comes to modern politicians.
		And it might be because of his experience in the business world.
		It might be because of his experience in the media.
		I'm not sure exactly what it is.
		But he really does capitalize on all of the negative things that they throw at him.
		He really has managed to I mean, everybody knows the mugshot.
		It was one of the best things that's ever happened.
		The mugshot was great.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Have you seen this presidential portrait?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's great.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It looks just like the mug shot.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		He loved that shot, yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, he did.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		He liked it a lot.
unidentified		And you thought for a minute that the mug shot was going to go down as the most iconic photograph in American history, and then Butler, Pennsylvania happens.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, then fight, fight, fight.
unidentified		You know, like, it's, this guy is the most...
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		And they tried to suppress that, too.
unidentified		I know.
		I know, all of it.
		Look, this guy is unlike anybody that we have seen, I think, in modern history, at the very least, if not all of history.
		You know, I'm on a tour at the moment.
		This is my new book, From Mar-a-Lago to Mars.
		It looks at exactly the stuff that we're talking about.
		How can you be censured, deplatformed, impeached twice, arrested, sued, indicted?
		They try to kill you at least twice that we know of, right?
		And this guy, just to your point, Phil, I mean, just keeps getting up and turns every setback into a setup for a comeback.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		And turns it to his favour.
		I mean, that is a manual, I think, that all of us can apply to life.
		And I think a lot of it is he was a student of Norman Vincent Peale, right?
		He actually officiated his wedding in his first marriage.
		He's someone who believes in the power of positive thinking.
		I do think you're right.
		He has learned a lot from his time in business.
		But this is a man whose personal mettle is just.
		I mean, he's unshakable.
		He's unsinkable.
		And it just upsets the left to no end.
		And that is the most majestic being out of all of it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's pull up the story from the Post Millennial.
		You're a war criminal.
		AOC heckled by pro-Gaza constituents in Queens.
		Quote, I am a healthcare worker.
		I want to know what you're doing about the genocide in Gaza.
		I can only say to AOC, you reap what you sow.
unidentified		Oh man.
		You know what you're doing about the Jets?
		I didn't know that.
		You're a part of it.
		There is a genocide in the gongo.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We do not need to listen to a minute and a half of rabble-rabble noise.
		But AOC, you reap what you sow.
		You know, when I see that woman standing up and screaming about Gaza, it's like, lady, I bet she couldn't point to it on a map.
		And I mean that somewhat half-jokingly, like maybe that's the one place she could.
		But point on the map and tell me where Gaza hurt you.
		Like, why do you care so much about one thing?
		Now, don't get me wrong.
		You're allowed to criticize and comment on international affairs.
		My point is that there are these people...
		That can't think of anything else.
		The only thing that matters is some land far, far away and this one particular war.
		And the reason I'm critical of it is the US is involved in a whole bunch of really bad wars we shouldn't be involved in.
		A whole bunch of bombing campaigns we shouldn't be involved in.
		But AOC, the base they have is a spattering of hyper-focused nut jobs that don't care about this country.
		Don't focus on any of the issues of this country.
		And this is why I believe Democrats are going to struggle to win.
		Now, they may win in the midterms because that's congressional district-based.
		You know, it's going to be one district.
		You only need, what, like two to swing and then Democrats will get their majority.
		So when it comes to 2028, however, I don't know how someone like AOC with that base is going to be able to stand up on a national stage and say, here's what I offer the American people.
		Because if she did try to come out and say something like, let's bring auto manufacturing back, they'd be like, Trump's already doing that.
		And then the left would go, you're a Trumpian!
		You're a Trump!
		There's no way to navigate the cult in this way, in a meaningful way, to actually win an election.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		They do change their minds quickly.
		Remember how much they were against Trump and Warp Speed and then adopted that?
		Right.
		Like, they weren't against it.
		Like, they have no moral center, no brains, really.
unidentified		No.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		They could flip-flop that quickly, but yeah, I don't know how she claws out of this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I do want to say, like, people have made the joke that the Republicans are the Washington generals to the Democrats' Harlem Globetrotters.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But it kind of doesn't work because the Republicans are winning, but kind of bad at what they do.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, Trump won, and Trump himself is doing a lot, but the Republican Party is miserable.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And the Democrats have lost, but...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Outside of the elections, they're doing way more to gut and rip apart this country.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's why I was impressed with Marjorie Taylor Greene, what she was saying recently about Trump doing these things, signing these orders, but they're not really codifying it in Congress.
		She's not even hearing about it.
		We do need that, especially before the midterms take place so we can coalesce these things into actual permanent law.
		We do need that.
unidentified		Shane, look, if President Trump has taught us one thing, it's taught us how to fight.
		Unfortunately, many Republicans, though, remain with the jellyfish back, and they need to do it.
		Look, with respect to AOC, so you go to a bar in New York City.
		AOC is the bartender.
		She makes everyone happy.
		She's giving away drinks, left, right and centre.
		Her shirt appears to get smaller and your bladder appears to get larger.
		Whether either of those things are true, no man can say.
		The next day she sends a bill to a hard-working American in the Midwest who doesn't even drink, doesn't party and most certainly doesn't hang out in New York City.
		So tell me, is that the kind of person that should be in charge of anything?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, no.
		Look, when it comes to the heckler at the AOC, whatever, the town hall or whatever, I think the reason that she stood up and was making a stink about Gaza is because that's the only political issue that she knows.
		And it's typical of the left to turn on itself, especially in a time when they have, there's nothing they can do.
		Like, honestly, like...
		That person that's heckling AOC, what is it that she expects AOC to do about a conflict that not only has AOC said that she's against, but that when she's only a congressperson, she's not in the Knesset, she's not...
		In the Middle East.
		She's not in the...
		I thought she was.
		To even think that she has any kind of effect is ridiculous.
		So that person is literally like a child just crying out out of frustration because they're angry.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is why I wonder about the foundation of this country.
		In this period with the Founding Fathers, did they know that the population...
		Was the population back then equally as childish?
		Developmentally disabled?
		Or is that something unique to the millennial generation?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I think it's a bit unique to us.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Look at old school books.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Considering no kids, yes.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		We have older people with no kids these days.
		And a lot of those guys were tested by war at a young age.
		They already knew suffering and had to work the land and stuff.
		A lot of these kids are just soft, sitting on Facebook all day.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There were people who fought in the American Revolution who were born...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Born after the Revolutionary Period started.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Super crazy.
unidentified		And just think about this, right?
		I mean, a century ago, people were lying about their age so that they could go and fight in a war.
		And today, someone the same age, or older even, gets anxiety if a restaurant doesn't have a reservation system online.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Can't order a pizza.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let me tell you.
		A hundred years ago, there were men lying about their age to go fight a war internationally.
		Today, you've got 37-year-old millennials lying about their age at a Harry Potter convention, embarrassed they're so old and everyone there is 10 years old.
unidentified		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		37-year-old men lying about their gender so they can go into the fat weight.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The reason I bring this up is because I'm thinking like, can we survive this?
		You know, and it's funny because people always think, there's a lot of people who think when I say stuff like this, They imagine immediately, like, the Earth is a molten ball of lava.
		Like, humans and life are gone.
		No, no, no.
		Like, Rome collapsed, okay?
		Countries emerged.
		Then human civilization went on.
		But can the United States, as it is, survive people as stupid as Ocasio-Cortez?
		You know, one of the challenges that I see, especially in politics in general, is...
		When you, every new generation forgets the previous, and that's just a fact of history because we don't experience it.
		So there are people listening to the show right now that lived through Reagan and remember all that stuff.
		And they apply that knowledge to the next person they vote for.
		Someone like me, I think he was in for two years.
		You know, I was born in 86. I have no lucidity at that age.
		And the only real politics I start to understand is George W. Bush.
		So then I vote accordingly.
		What did I do?
		I voted for Obama.
		Oh boy, there you go, right?
		Not gonna make that mistake twice.
		So now I'm voting for Trump.
		But I meet younger people, the exact same position.
		We had a guy on Saturday at the Culture World Live event said, you know, what if you get a president AOC and then she starts doing the things that Trump's doing?
		Targeting J6s and things like that.
		And my response was, been there, done that.
		Biden did all that.
		Barack Obama did all that.
		So these young guys, when Obama was in, you know, if they're 23 today, they were, what, 13?
		13 years old.
		So they did not live through or understand any of the things that Obama did that was political.
		So today, they're like, hey, but we must apply the test that if you give power to Trump, then the Democrats will use it against you.
		And it's like, yeah, go ask the J6s about no due process.
unidentified		So Tim, you know, the thing I would say, because this is something that I have really thought about long and hard.
		So if you go and ask any historian worth their salt, they'll tell you that great nations tend to last somewhere between 230 and 270 years.
		And obviously next year, we celebrate our 250th birthday, a time for great celebration, but also a time for sober contemplation.
		The advantage that the United States of America has, that Rome didn't have, that England didn't have, is our Constitution.
		That is what gave us this unbelievable head start.
		And it is the recipe, right?
		We don't need to reinvent the wheel.
		All we need to do is exercise fidelity to the Constitution and make sure that the First and Second Amendments...
		Never, ever, ever go away.
		And I believe that not only can we reach 300 years, we could reach even longer.
		So we have it within us.
		And Alexis de Tocqueville, the famous French philosopher, he came out here and he said that America is great because America is good.
		If America ceases to be good, she will cease to be great.
		But he also said in Democracy in America that the true genius of these people, of Americans that he was writing about, are their ability to re-correct a cultural trajectory.
		Yep.
		Right?
		And we have that ability.
		Look how we recorrected after Obama.
		Look how we recorrect, well, did we really recorrect with Joe Biden or should Joe Biden have never been in there in the first place?
		We'll leave that for another day.
		But either way, we always seem to come back as Americans.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It sounds to me like We have started, 250 years ago, building this tower one block at a time.
		And in these earlier years, there's concerns about the structure and the foundation, and quick improvements are made to change things up.
		You know, we had the Articles of the Confederacy first.
		What was it?
unidentified		The...
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Articles of Confederation.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Articles of Confederation, there you go.
		And then you had the Union, then you had the Constitution, and so they were trying to build it up.
		Now, after so long, this tower is swinging back and forth.
		So dramatically that at some point it seems like it's going to swing and then just crumble apart.
		It's going to reach that breaking point.
		So you mentioned the Constitution and all these things I largely agree with.
		The problem is the left doesn't agree and are hell-bent on this, and they are formidable.
		They are half the country, or at least the fervent far left is a small portion, but...
		Has many default libs just marching in lockstep behind them, believing all of their lies.
		They lie every single day about every single story.
		I don't know how we navigate this.
		The example, simple example right now, one simple example.
		You know, one of the things that this kid asked me, and so the Culture World Live, I really do recommend you watch because it is going to be fantastic.
		We're editing it now.
		It's going to be up on Friday.
		He's basically saying, why would you give Trump a pass but not Joe Biden?
		Now, trying to explain to a young person who didn't experience the Biden years or, you know, they were here for, but they didn't really pay attention.
		I was explaining, listen, I could go back to everything the Democrats have done over 15 years.
		We can talk about the Qatar-Turkey pipeline.
		We can talk about the Burisma scandal.
		We can talk about Syria.
		We can talk about, what was it, Operation Timber Sycamore?
		Was that the one where Obama was giving weapons to ISIS, basically?
		And then I can say Donald Trump comes in in opposition to all of these things, securing the border.
		So when Trump makes a mistake or makes a move I don't largely agree with, I'm much more forgiving than if it were to be Joe Biden.
		They don't know or care or understand this.
		They've not experienced this.
		To them, they're just like, don't know, don't care.
		You're blindly following a guy.
		I blindly follow a guy.
		So Donald Trump's response when the courts obstruct his executive authorities.
		Is to try and launch different attack vectors through his legal powers.
		Every step of the way he's being blocked.
		Alien Enemies Act blocked.
		Standard deportations?
		No, you've got to get a trial now for all of these people.
		I asked Will Chamberlain, what do we do?
		How do we solve this solution or this problem where the president is being obstructed by activist judges?
		He said Congress.
		No sane person in this country thinks Congress can do anything right now.
		They can't.
		They can't pass anything.
		They won't pass anything.
		And certainly the Senate won't get through a filibuster.
		So now it just looks like the legislative branch will sit in its hands.
		The judicial branch will obstruct in every possible way.
		And the executive branch will keep trying to do what it wants to do to circumvent the judicial branch.
		What is the means by which we survive this period?
		It's going to get unconstitutional like during the Civil War.
		Abraham Lincoln's going to be like, no habeas corpus for you.
		And then after it clears up, we carry on 300, 400, 500 years or whatever it may be.
		If this doesn't go full conflict, if things simmer down, if we find a path towards organizing everything and stabilizing it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		There is still the possibility that the Supreme Court will rule.
		The right way on these nationwide injunctions.
		Again, it is something that both, you know, liberal and conservative justices have mentioned.
		Kagan said that this isn't what the founders intended.
		Clearly the conservative justices would say, no, we don't want to see this.
		Honestly, I could see, I wouldn't be shocked if it was, you know, seven to two when it comes down to whether or not these district courts have the authority to.
		To prevent the president from doing what he was actually elected to do.
		This is something that I harp on, but, like, the president of the United States is the only political officer that is elected by the whole of the electorate.
		Like, all Americans vote on the president.
		Congress is voted on only by their district.
		The Senate is only voted on by the people in their states.
		So the only person that's elected by the whole of the country is the president.
		There was a clear message sent to the...
		To the government that the American people wanted a different type of government than what we had with Joe Biden.
		Based on the fact that we wanted to have...
		We wanted people that were...
		They wanted to stop having the illegal immigration and they wanted to have the illegal citizens or the illegal immigrants that are here sent back.
		And all of these judges that are trying to inhibit that, they're trying to inhibit the will of the people and that has to stop.
unidentified		Absolutely.
		I mean, you cannot legislate from the bench, and yet that is exactly what they are doing.
		And why?
		Because they are not constitutional loyalists.
		They are party.
		These judges must be impeached.
		If there is one thing that people involved in politics in the Republican conservative side all across the country should be pouring their effort into right now, it is efforts to impeach these judges and find Yes,
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		it's going to be the midterms.
		I don't want to blackpill anybody and say, you know, don't try.
		We have to try harder than we've ever tried for these midterms.
		About a year and a half, a little bit more than a year and a half away.
		That means we've got a lot of time.
		But I'm optimistic on Congress.
		Because right now, there's a Republican majority.
		They can do whatever they want, and they won't.
		So, what do we need?
		15 Democrat seats to flip Republican?
		I'm not convinced, even if there was a 17-seat majority for the Republicans, they would do anything.
		Because there's nothing stopping them from doing it now.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		It's just like the first time.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's always.
		It almost seems like.
		The Republicans in Congress exist to obstruct Trump intentionally.
		It is the deep state stopgap to be like, when Trump, you know, when the Republicans win, the Republican Congress is largely a decentralized structure and we will make sure Trump can't do anything.
		Because they could do it right now.
		They don't.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		It's ridiculous.
		Today was a pretty important day.
		The executive order that Trump signed.
		It's like a bookend to what stopped the whole world.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was already banned.
		Fauci did it anyway.
		Why aren't they putting Merrick Garland and Fauci in prison?
		Fauci lied to Congress.
		Garland was held in contempt.
		They have the power now.
		Do it!
		I gotta tell you.
		They put Steve Bannon in prison.
		They put Peter Navarro in prison.
		They tried putting Trump in prison.
		Merrick Garland defied Congress.
		He was found in contempt and they did nothing.
		Nothing.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		RFK Jr. today behind Trump as he signed the executive order was detailing the history of gain of function.
		I wrote it down.
		He said by 1969, he said the CIA said they could kill every American by 29 cents.
		With 29 cents with the gain of function that they were doing.
		It's like nuclear power.
		It's insane.
		And this is the guy who wrote the real Anthony Fauci.
		And I want to remind people really quick, Fauci does mean sickle.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I will say, you know, Bannon said, wait till summer.
		We'll start seeing arrests.
		Some judges have been arrested.
		Not overtly political.
		They were just aiding and abetting criminal aliens.
		You know, I'm not going to get ants in my pants.
		You know, Cash and Dan have been there only for a few months.
		So I'm willing to wait and see.
		It's Congress I have the issue with because now they should be acting and they're not.
unidentified		No, no, look, 100%.
		I think President Trump needs to privately address Congress and tell them to get into line.
		I think we need our primaries before the midterms to be 100% about loyalty to the MAGA agenda that brought Trump to Washington.
		And lots of people, Tim, share your frustrations with Congress.
		And apart from the president telling them...
		We need young, smart, eager and willing Republicans to run in the primaries and we need people like Elon to support them.
		At the end of the day, I think that's where it's all going to happen.
		The other thing I'd say is that a lot of the frustrations right now...
		Been there 100 and what?
		103 days?
		104 days?
		There are still a lot of those holdovers, I'm sure, in the FBI, in the Attorney General's office.
		I think we learned today that there were going to be some further delays with the Epstein files.
		It's clear that there are still...
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		There are no files.
unidentified		Yeah.
		There are swampish elements that are really holding everything back.
		So...
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		That's got to go.
		100%.
		Like, I don't believe that there's files, but I would like to see more transparency, at least an effort for transparency.
		I don't know what's going on behind the scenes, but I don't like it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's jump to this next story.
		It is a cultural revolution, my friends.
		MSNBC, oh, they're salty.
		MAGA World helps raise over $600,000 after a woman hurls racial slur at a child in Minnesota.
		So the story goes, Shiloh Hendricks going viral.
		When she made a give-send-go saying, help me protect my family, $680,000.
		Now the story is that she was at a park.
		She claims some kid was rifling through her bag, taking stuff, so she called him a racial slur.
		Some guy started filming her.
		She told him to F off, then called him a slur.
		He then posts the video trying to cancel her.
		She then launches a give-send-go saying, give me money.
		Now Matt Walsh came out and said, she made half a million, I hope she gets half a million more.
		The only way to stop cancel culture is to show that it backfires, and it absolutely is.
		But there is something interesting in the comments as to why this woman is receiving so much money.
		The narrative for many young guys, the view that many young people—don't get me wrong, there's older white guys who feel this way too—but a lot of these Gen Z guys grew up in a society that you were told, if you're white, you're an oppressor.
		Minorities are allowed to insult you based on your race.
		In the most awful ways.
		And you can't do anything about it because you're an evil oppressor.
		Well, what happens?
		It's one thing when you've got a Gen X guy and they grow up hearing this from the TV and all that stuff.
		But they're coming off of, you know, blockbusting and actual racist policies in the 80s.
		For Gen Z, they grew up at a time where most of these racist institutions have lost.
		It's illegal now to blockbuster or to redline.
		So instead, they're now being told by their teacher, you're evil, but they don't see it.
		They're then mocked and insulted based on their race, and they're not allowed to do anything about it.
		You get cancel culture, and cancel culture is the unreasonable firing of a person, not, you know, it's like there's that race car driver.
		He lost his sponsor because his dad used a racial slur in the 80s before he was born.
		That's cancel culture.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think what we're seeing now is a backlash to this white guilt, a social order, where for the longest time, celebrities, black celebrities could make fun of white people.
		White people were supposed to just laugh.
		You couldn't say anything back.
		Young guys don't understand why that is, why they have to be made fun of, insulted, when they can't get jobs, when they can't get universities, or they can't get a university.
		They're struggling to make ends meet while being told they're oppressors.
		So finally, suddenly this happens and the dam breaks.
		And this is what, you know, I was talking to Carl Benjamin earlier.
		We had all warned about this 10 years ago, that if you promote racial identitarianism like the left had been doing, it's only a matter of time before white people find the exact same path.
		And they say, then if you're going to insult us, attack us.
		Fire us from our jobs.
		Deny us access to universities.
		Then we will form a collective and there's more of us and you'll regret it.
		And it seems like that's where we are.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		The pendulum swinging from the summer of love to now and bombs at the playground.
		You know?
		People have had enough.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, look, I don't think that it needs to, you know, it goes without saying that it's not a good idea to call kids names.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Don't call kids racial slurs.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		That's not a good idea.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's a bad idea.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		What's his name?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Has anyone asked if that's a kid's name?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, maybe.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's like a name tag.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I don't think so.
		But yeah, look, I mean, the fact of the matter is, just like Tim said and like Carl said and like Jordan Peterson has said and like I've said, you can't play the racial identity game and expect the people that you're attacking with that weapon to not engage in the game.
		And Peterson actually made it, was really clear about it.
		He was like, look.
		You're going to attack young white men, and those young white men are going to say, I don't want to...
		Not only am I willing to play your game, because I don't have the guilt that, say, Gen X or Boomers have, but not only am I willing to play your game, but I'm going to play it to win.
		And so it's not like the young people are going to be worried about if you call them names, you call them racist or whatever.
		They don't care.
		And that's something that is...
		Absolutely true.
		Right now, if you're at home listening to this and you're unaware, young people do not care if you call them racist.
		They will not.
		It will not phase them at all.
		And this is not something that we should be happy about, but it is the reality that we have to look forward in the next...
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		The word means nothing anymore.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Racist, sexist, these words have been so overused in the past 5, 10, 15 years that it just doesn't mean a thing.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I agree with you, but I think that even if...
		They understand what it's supposed to mean.
		They don't care.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Some have said this is a response to the Carmelo Anthony story.
unidentified		Look, a few points.
		First of all, we need to transition from a low-impulse society to a stoic and sane society that we used to be.
		Number two, These are words, okay?
		And at the end of the day, we have the First Amendment, okay?
		And then in terms of fundraising, you're free to fundraise for whatever.
		You want to fundraise for.
		I mean, this isn't Canada.
		I mean, Mark Carney just came out and said that – did you hear what he said about free speech and stuff, that it was a crime?
		I mean, so long as it was a word, there was no crime.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		You remember, words are violence.
unidentified		Yes, of course, of course, right?
		Yeah, well, we hear all of that too.
		But at the end of the day, I mean, for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.
		Before Black Lives Matter, race relations were pretty stable, but the BLM movement just ripped an absolute hole in things and exposed all of the many failings that have added up ever since the failure of LBJ's Great Society.
		If white people are angry, I mean, ask yourselves why.
		The marginalisation created by BLM is one.
		Affirmative action in all its forms is another.
		And the entitlement culture that LBJ created is yet another.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the race war has been like a government dream for a long time.
		If you've read Chaos, the book Chaos about Helter Skelter being like a made-up idea from the prosecutor and Bugliosi, not really a Charles Manson thing.
		Like, they kind of obsess over this idea of pitting the races against each other.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, the NAACP launched a fundraiser for the child.
		And they've closed it now with $341,594 raised.
		So one of the narratives here is that Carmelo Anthony stabbed and killed Austin Metcalf.
		Said he did it.
		His family's claiming it was self-defense.
		Self-defense lawyers are saying, nice try, bro.
		You can't stab someone for pushing you at a high school track meet.
		But he raised $500,000.
		And the responses in the Give, Send, Go were largely racial.
		They were talking about racial solidarity.
		There was a sentiment among many, not all, but many of these people that it didn't matter whether he was innocent or guilty.
		It mattered that he was black.
		And they wanted to support him for that reason.
		So when this story then comes out, a lot of white people said, we're going to stand by her.
		This is a white person being threatened because now this is the beast that has been awoken by DEI.
		In response, you're seeing these people, these...
		What's the right way to describe these people, the has-been IDW types, that haven't had any relevance, that they've been struggling with viewership, so they keep complaining about the woke right?
		They're now pointing, it's been like, aha, see, this proves it, and it's like, do you not understand?
		It's a kind of irony.
		This is not the emergence of an old-school Klan white identitarian group.
		This is a reaction to a far-left that is not seeking to maintain the system, it's seeking to destroy it.
		But of course, that's the only thing they have to say when they try to get views.
		Seeing how they've raised all this money, Carmelo Anthony, then Shiloh Hendricks, and now even the kid, I only see escalation in this regard.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the race wars and who wants to be a millionaire?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is what I can't stand.
		So I sat down with the guys from Triggernometry.
		I recommend you guys check it out.
		You hear from these centrist types, stop.
		Trying to fight back and just lay down and accept you will be a slave.
		That's what I keep hearing from these people.
		Over the past several decades, you've had the dramatic increase of DEI and wokeness.
		Screaming in your face, you can't speak.
		We will shut you down.
		We will ban you.
		And we have pushed back.
		And we are still pushing back.
		Matt Walsh is correct in this regard.
		I hope she gets more money so that people realize if you want to play cancel culture, we will reverse the script on you and it'll backfire.
		Put a stop to it.
		When talking to a lot of these people, liberals are obviously going to say this to you.
		Trump is doing unconstitutional things.
		Stop.
		Okay, so we endured, you know what, eight years of Obama, the murders, the targeting of conservatives and Christians.
		Then we get Donald Trump.
		They accuse him of being a Soviet spy, a traitor to his country.
		Bogged down his first term with garbage investigations.
		They tried to put his administration in prison.
		Carter Page, Michael Flynn, George Papadopoulos, Manafort.
		The list goes on.
		They accused him of a pee tape, the Steele dossier.
		After all of this, over 10 years, then you get Biden.
		You get Joe Biden.
		Hunting down Gen Sixers, denying access to evidence from the Capitol, 44,000 hours of footage, falsely charging many of them under the obstruction statute, which the Supreme Court struck down, and people who were walking around the property, clueless about any right, getting charged as well.
		And now, now Trump is in, and these IDW has-beens are going, stop trying to win, and just let them trample your rights.
		So I'm going to tell you this.
		I would prefer it, much prefer it.
		None of this happened.
		Lady, don't throw racial slurs at children.
		Come on.
		That's despicable.
		However, I understand why people are donating to her.
		They're saying, you want to play with fire, fire you will play with.
		And so now we're looking at the Trump administration.
		I don't want Trump to violate the Constitution.
		But he's not done that.
		He's used everything they've launched, like the Alien Enemies Act, has been things that has been codified, and he's allowed to do.
		And he's saying, I'm going to do it.
		And they're like, then we're going to challenge you.
		Then he says, then I'm going to do something else.
		We're going to challenge you.
		They are violating the Constitution with extra, with unconstitutional universal injunctions.
		And then I am sick of hearing from these people.
		Say it one more time.
		Trump should stop.
		Because if he does, the Democrats will do worse.
		Bro, the Democrats have, can, and will violate your rights if slash when they get power back.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That was my big...
		That was something, I don't want to spoil the show from the culture war, but one of the people kept saying, oh, you know, the norms and this is bad, it's a slippery slope and blah, blah, blah.
		And it's like, that's such a ridiculous argument because the norms have all been violated multiple times.
		I mean, Abraham Lincoln.
		Suspended habeas corpus.
		Donald Trump isn't talking about doing it.
		Well, I think that Donald Trump should actually do things like that to get rid of the illegal aliens.
		But the idea that if Donald Trump does something that pushes the boundaries of the Constitution, that means the whole country is going to fall apart.
		That's ridiculous histrionic BS meant to freeze people and prevent people from taking action.
		Donald Trump needs to take action to...
		To do the things that he was elected to do.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Joe Biden was spraying oil and grease onto the slope.
		He was just hosing it away with a big old fire hose full of grease.
		Slippery slope.
		Have fun.
		We're sliding down it faster than anybody can realize.
		I don't want Trump to do anything unconstitutional.
		I do not want Trump to send people to foreign prisons.
		I do not want Trump to suspend habeas corpus.
		I want him to go golfing in Palm Beach.
		Enjoy his time.
		Enjoy his life.
		Help stabilize the economy.
		Be calm and reasonable.
		The problem is the Democrats have not stopped waging lawfare.
		The orders from these judges violate the Constitution.
		And what is the check on judges violating the Constitution?
		Theoretically, it would be the legislative branch.
		Or the executive saying no.
		But we're not getting a legislative branch to actually do anything meaningful.
		So the courts are saying, we hereby decree universally in this country, Trump has to allow anyone, anywhere, to enlist.
		Because all means all, the judge said.
		Well, that's impossible.
		And that's unconstitutional.
		How does Trump react?
		I feel that no matter what happens, no matter what happens, we've got an escalation before us.
		If Trump says, guys, I do not have the energy to go to war.
		And carry this fight on.
		So I am laying down my figurative sword and I'm going to retire.
		The Democrats will turn this country into a Chinese Communist Party-style government.
		If Trump says, I will do everything in my power to maintain and stabilize this Republican form of government, Democrats are going to say, then we're going to run up you.
		We're going to drive this to the ends of the earth.
		I don't see the off-ramp.
		I don't see how we go anywhere but into...
		Separation, divorce, conflict, you name it.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I'm afraid.
		I really am.
		People need to go out there and tell their congressmen to step up and start doing stuff.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I will be fair, because it's a black pill.
		Democrats have no leadership and are spiraling.
		So that is somewhat indicative of Republicans just winning in the long run.
unidentified		Yeah, reason for hope.
		Yeah, look, I think the scariest part for me, it's all scary, but the scariest part for me is definitely now what the courts are doing, because no president since Andrew Jackson.
		has faced so much adversity from the courts.
		But this is not fair adversity.
		The courts are seeking to undermine the constitutional role of a commander-in-chief.
		It is not lawfare through litigation like we saw the last four years.
		It is lawfare through arbitrary and overly broad rulings that are intended to weaken the position of the president for one reason and one reason alone.
		President Trump's view on crime and illegal immigration in particular go against the deep-seated ideology of many of these far-left.
		Judges who are legislating from the bench.
		And like I said before, they should be impeached because they will destroy everything if given the opportunity.
		And I think we fight it by the off-ramp is fighting it with organized campaigns to impeach these judges.
		I mean, Soros has done it for his side.
		We cannot be passive and allow the forces that hate President Trump, to your point, Tim, And hate America to continue winning.
		We just can't allow it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's jump to this story from CNN.
		Trump posts AI image of himself as Pope, leaving Catholics offended and unamused as conclave nears.
		Trump reacted.
		He gave a statement on this and said, I don't know who posted it.
		It wasn't me.
		Somebody posted it.
		It's a joke.
		And they said, well, Catholics are mad.
		And he's like, what, you mean you're saying they can't take a joke?
		It's not the Catholics.
		It's the fake news.
		It's drumming this up.
		Well, we have this from NYS Catholic Conference on Acts.
		They said, I'm going to show you some more.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Jesus.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You got Ted Lieu.
		As a Catholic, I take great offense to Donald Trump mocking Catholics.
		I wish Trump would focus on lowering prices instead.
		The American economy had negative GDP growth last quarter.
		And then we have this.
		Dustin Grage responded.
		Just with an image of Ted Lieu standing with this group.
		What are they called?
		The Sisters of Perpetual?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Satanists.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And they hate Christianity.
		They hate Catholicism.
		They mock your religion.
		And he stands with them and then has the nerve to come out.
		This is 100% that meme where the guy says, I have nothing but disdain for your backwards religion.
		Now let me use it against you because maybe you'll do what I tell you to do now.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		This is the same way they treat the Constitution, too.
		It doesn't matter what the issue is.
		They will take whatever you hold dear and they will use it against you but they have no respect for it.
		And this is one of the reasons why I say, why we all say, they are evil.
unidentified		Yes.
		They put aside their hate of religion and religious people for 48 hours to hate Trump.
		I mean, it's unbelievable.
		These guys couldn't care less about Catholicism or the Catholic people or the Pope or any of those things.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I feel like this is the kind of thing.
		It's how you get a revolution that leads to authoritarianism.
		So you look at the Founding Fathers.
		They had an authoritarian crown.
		They had a monarch.
		And the king said, do what you tell you.
		And they said, this is awful.
		This doesn't work.
		The people are being oppressed.
		We need to govern ourselves.
		He's 3,000 miles away.
		Let's write a constitution that guarantees the freedoms of the people and does all these things.
		Well, over a long enough period of time, for whatever reason, you end up with half the population being psychotic, deranged, histrionic narcissists who will simultaneously disparage and insult Christians and then claim to be them and get mad at Donald Trump over a joke.
		No matter what Trump does, it's wrong, and they want to cause damage to this country.
		You've got Democrats, the media, simultaneously saying, Donald Trump deported a two-year-old American citizen.
		The mother was deported, and she wanted the child to go with her.
		Unacceptable.
		New York Times runs the exact same story.
		A mother and father were deported, but the two-year-old stayed.
		Now in some kind of limbo.
		Unacceptable.
		I'm paraphrasing.
		I'm adding unacceptable.
		That's the insinuation.
		So which one is it?
		There's no answer.
		What I see here is this is how you end up having the pendulum swing the other way.
		People who want to live in a functional society where we can live, work, and have merit, and people don't break the law, and they're not stealing from each other, are now looking at the freedoms, and I'll put them in air quotes, these tenets.
		And how it's led to the Democrat Party, how they've let criminals go from prisons, how they've terrorized neighborhoods, destroyed businesses, and now you're starting to see people beg for an authoritarian, it's the other way around.
		People having meetings being like, this, anybody live and let live, can do whatever they want, isn't working.
		They're sterilizing kids, they're killing kids, they're effectively trying to destroy our country.
		We need someone to come in and set this straight.
		Now you've got people Demanding the inverse.
unidentified		Yep.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I think there's a lot of people actually around Trump.
		You know, one of my criticisms of the administration are people that want a monarchy.
		They want someone to be like a dictator.
		I don't want that at all.
		But there's definitely people calling for it.
		And like what Tim's saying, you know, the more this country falls apart, and it has.
		I mean, five years ago, the whole country was shut down by, you know, tyrants from around the world.
		We got Biden, who was like a dead tyrant.
		It's going to happen.
unidentified		Yeah, look, I mean, again, just talking about this Pope thing, I mean, I think one of the reasons the left is so dangerous is that they are entirely bereft also of humour, right?
		When Trump first answered this question on the lawn of the White House, I laughed my head off.
		They said, you know, Mr. President, who do you want as Pope?
		And he said, me.
		You know, I'd love to be Pope.
		I mean, his comedic timing, the way he uses humour, which, by the way, to our earlier conversation, is one of his very effective techniques.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he's funny.
unidentified		Right, that he uses.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
unidentified		And you need that in diplomacy, by the way.
		It's essential.
		You need to have that.
		Few understand the importance of humour in that stuff.
		And so, you know, I think that the left and the Democrats here, this was, no one cares about this.
		This image of Trump.
		I mean, any normal person would laugh.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		100% of the people that were critical of Trump over this would have been critical of Trump over anything else.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		This is just the vector of attack.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		The left has been doing nothing but mock God for decades.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But this is the Democratic Party.
		Trump, no matter what he does, he's wrong.
		How do we function as a society?
		If there's a group of people that literally just say...
		And let's not forget.
		When Trump was bowing, when Trump was largely out of the spotlight around 2022, and Ron DeSantis was emerging on the scene as a major player, they started writing articles saying, Ron DeSantis is worse than Trump.
		They were prepared for the histrionics immediately, and then Trump came back and they backed off.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		This is the MO of the Democrats now.
		There will be no policy debates from the Democrats anymore until...
		I'd say anymore, as long as this is the method that they continue to use.
		Now, there is a civil war going on in the Democratic Party.
		Maybe...
		Reasonable people will actually win and they will get rid of the ideological, you know, the race hustlers and all that stuff.
		Maybe they will actually come back to a sensible, functional representative.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I haven't heard those words associated with that party in a long time.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		How is that even possible?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Completely understandable.
		I mean, if it was people like Joe Manchin or Kyrsten Sinema, those people, I disagree with them on a lot of stuff, but they weren't like sitting there just saying, look, how do I get...
		How do I get an angle to introduce articles of impeachment?
		Because that's what the next...
		Next Congress is going to do.
		If the Democrats win, they're going to start writing up articles of impeachment.
		Because Congress doesn't function.
		There's only like two bills that they get through a year.
		And they're always massive omnibus bills.
		So they're not in there actually doing any kind of voting or doing any kind of service for the people.
		They're in there literally only trying to make money for themselves through insider trading or raise their own celebrity so that way when they get out of Congress they can get another job.
		So they're not there.
		Democrats are definitely not there to actually do the business of the people.
		They're there to resist the GOP.
		And whether it be Trump now, or like Tim said, it was looking like they were going to start saying that about...
		About DeSantis, who is night and day different than Trump.
		That's unarguable.
		And then now whoever is actually the person to follow Trump, if it's J.D. Vance, it'll be J.D. Vance.
		There's a possibility that it's Marco Rubio, and they'll call Marco Rubio all the names.
		It doesn't matter the person.
		It's just their method of operation.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		In this context, I have a question for Nick.
		This is Brian Tyler Cohen on YouTube.
		I don't know if you've heard of him.
		He literally posts 99% of his content is just Trump is bad.
		And we've ragged on this guy quite a bit.
		And he's not stopped.
		The train is rolling full steam ahead.
		Trump is confused.
		Attorney who fears Trump.
		Trump loses it.
		Trump gets what he deserves.
		Trump advisor group sues Supreme Court.
		Gloves off.
		Obama deals Trump.
		Humiliation.
		Blah, blah, blah.
		You get the point.
		I made a video last week.
		Where I basically outlined YouTube's rules ban algorithmic manipulation.
		There are a bunch of AI channels that auto-generate Spider-Man videos.
		They're starting to get banned too.
		There were several channels that produced AI-generated Trump stories.
		One of them that went viral was Carolyn Levitt was wearing a cross necklace while sitting on the plane and the pilot demanded she take it off.
		It was a nonsense story, but it got millions of views.
		YouTube banned these channels.
		Now, they didn't break any of the rules as far as community guidelines go.
		They just said it was manipulating the algorithm.
		There's two things to consider.
		There is YouTube's guidelines around Brian Tyler Cohen and David Pakman largely producing what I would call Trump slop.
		That is speedily made nonsense content just jamming Trump in the headline with pictures of Trump.
		And here's where I think it's fair to say this proves it.
		He doesn't post pictures of himself in the thumbnails.
		It's not the Brian show with a picture of him talking about something.
		Every single thumbnail is Trump.
		He is gaming the algorithm to generate traffic.
		Now, civically, should he be allowed to do this?
		And then, YouTube rules-wise, should he be allowed to do this?
		And the question then is, if this, gaming the system, is generating 200 million views per month, that Trump is bad?
		Feeding an addiction of psychotic people, that will destroy the fabric of this country.
		So how do we solve for a problem like this?
		He's got free speech.
unidentified		Yeah.
		I mean I don't think that you should use algorithms to promote political bias.
		That's how YouTube worked when it was founded.
		That's how its reputation was built.
		I think it's time to get back to basics.
		Tim, and given that it's your show, I won't use aristocratic language like calling him a count without the O, but certainly this is exactly the kind of person that is completely and totally unhelpful.
		In our future, in terms of sowing division, you know, the free marketplace of ideas work so long as we don't resort to fraud.
		And this guy, just from the titles, the captions of his videos, he's lying.
		I mean, look at this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's all just Trump slop.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		What was his channel like between Biden and Trump or before?
		Like, how long has he had this channel?
		Was it in 2016?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		Periodically, he does have some other characters that pop up.
		But for the most part, it's 99% just Trump slop.
		It's slop content.
		Look at this.
		Trump sacrifices his own attorneys.
		They're nonsense headlines.
		What's the difference between AI generating this?
		YouTube banned those channels.
		Here's my point, largely.
		YouTube is biased.
		Took down channels that didn't break the rules because they were telling stories.
		Making a video where you tell a fictional story about Carolyn Levitt wearing a necklace.
		Isn't against the rules.
		I think it's bad because people think it is a real story and it's deceptive, but it's not against the rules to make a bunch of stories.
		They got banned.
		The dude who is actually fomenting division with slop content has a massive channel with hundreds of millions of views and he's probably a millionaire.
		And so the issue I see with this is, civically, how does our country survive if this becomes political discourse?
		And this guy...
		He brags about how many views he gets off his stuff.
unidentified		Well, at least we know who ABC is going to replace Jimmy Kimmel with.
		Look, at the end of the day, Tim, for me, my guideline is the First Amendment.
		Now, maybe that's going to work against us in some ways, but I think overall, when it all kind of pans out, that's the only option we have and that's the best course of action that we have.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think there are challenges.
		Right now, as it pertains to the First and Second Amendments that have not been answered, and I don't think people want to answer because they're scared to answer.
		I've had many Republican politicians come on this show, and I ask them, is the Second Amendment absolute?
		They all say no.
		What do you mean no?
		The Second Amendment says what the Second Amendment says.
		The right of the people to keep in bare arms.
		Yeah, well, the response I always get is, the founding fathers didn't know about biological weapons and nuclear bombs.
		And my response is so false.
		What?
		If you don't like it, change the Constitution.
		I honestly don't think it would be that hard.
		Actually, probably would be impossible.
		If you came out and said, we want to add this language, no one can have nuclear weapons outside of regulated government agencies.
		No one's going to let you do it.
		The two-way people are going to be like, I don't let you touch that thing because the moment you open it up, you're going to screw it up.
		So we do have this problem now where the government has decided you don't have a right to keep in bear arms.
		And they've just infringed upon it.
		The First Amendment, you end up with this.
		This is not helping this country.
		I think it's fair to say psychological warfare is more powerful.
		The pen is mightier than the sword.
		And so the challenge we're running into with free speech is the exact— Now, I'm going to say this.
		I am a two-way absolutist.
		I think people should be allowed to have nuclear weapons.
		I don't want them to have them.
		But what I'm saying is the law prohibits the government from banning them.
		And it is also important to point out that private organizations, private companies do have nuclear weapons.
		As far as the free speech goes, I'm largely in favor of it.
		But I am recognizing the problem of when you have people who use fraud and psychological manipulation to trick people into thinking false things politically so they can profit off of it, your country will die.
		Especially when this guy is getting four times the viewership of Joe Rogan.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		You think it's real?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The views are real.
		They're largely based on shorts, however.
		So, what I will point out is this.
		When Joe Rogan does an episode of his show, he does one video.
		And he might get, you know, depending on if it's a lesser known guest, 600,000.
		It's a better known guest, maybe he gets 3 million.
		Sometimes they do way better, like Elon Musk, right?
		But I think on average he might end up getting around a million or so, because sometimes he talks to people he just wants to talk to.
		Well, this dude, in the last day, he's got, let's ignore that one hour ago, he's got 300,000.
		235, so you've got 600 right there.
		You've got a million views in these three videos.
		You've got about 2 million views in one day already.
		Actually, if we include all of the one-day videos, you're looking at 2.5 to 3 million views.
		That's not including his shorts, which are, you know, Trump, Trump, Trump.
		You get the point.
		And these are getting 3 million views, 200,000, 1 million.
		He is largely crushing Joe Rogan's viewership.
		So we talk about Joe Rogan being the biggest podcast.
		And I know I'm singling out this one guy.
		There's a bunch of channels that do this.
		But I will say it again.
		The left is being informed by this.
		Jimmy Kimmel's the same.
		Sean Frasic, who runs our social strategy here, was talking about how when he goes through all the monologues for Colbert and Kimmel, it's no different than Brian Tyler Cohen.
		Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.
		Every single day, all day, nonstop.
		They're doing it for money, and they've created this addiction spiral.
		This is where you run into this clash.
		You believe in free speech in the First Amendment?
		Fine.
		Not saying we should do away with that.
		Not at all.
		I'm saying I recognize this is what will be born of it.
		And it's going to be more successful.
		It's going to crush out the opposition.
		He gets way more views than we do.
		He gets ten times our viewership on this one show.
		I'll give him that.
		And he bragged about it.
		He brags that he can make Trump slop content that fries the brains of people and he makes millions of dollars off of it.
		He's unscrupulous.
		He is a con man.
		He's a grifter.
		How does a country survive when this is half of your political space?
unidentified		Look, is it any wonder that the left loves eroding the First Amendment but hates prosecuting fraud?
		I mean, look, manipulation in many cases, Tim, is fraud.
		And if this is fraud, then, you know, there is punishment.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's speech.
unidentified		Well, yeah.
		Look, and I am a first...
		I think that's wrong.
		Only actions do.
		Freedom of speech means freedom to live in perfect peace after speech, so long as it is protected by the First Amendment.
		That's one of the reasons why I started my group 1A Warriors, to give civil rights protections to those who suffer from both private and public sector retribution.
		Well...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's, I guess that's going to play out how it plays out, but, you know.
		We'll jump to this next story from Fox News.
		Legal experts say Trump can definitely reopen Alcatraz, but could face an avalanche of lawsuits.
		Greg Jarrett tells Fox and Friends legal challenges will likely be tied up in California courts for years.
		And that's what I tweeted this, and I got a lot of pushback.
		I said, I do not believe Trump will be able to reopen Alcatraz in any meaningful amount of time.
		There's logistical problems.
		It has been closed for 62 years.
		That means it needs to be updated.
		Like, there's a lot of technology that it's going to need for a modern prison.
		Cameras.
		But it probably does have cameras.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		It's a tourist.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		But I doubt it has the necessary cameras for a prison system.
		The locks and everything it needs probably have been maintained to a certain degree.
		But a modern prison system is going to need to be updated.
		So, you've got to hire staff.
		You've got to build the management.
		You've got to actually check the structures to be able to house and maintain.
		Maybe they're fine for tourists.
		Maybe you can't have people living in them.
		The biggest issue, of course, is it's a national park already.
		They're going to sue.
		There's financial interests probably tied to ferries that are going to be like, I go out of business if you do this.
		So they're going to be suing like crazy, saying you can't strip a national park away.
		So Trump wants to do it, of course, because it's a symbol.
		Alcatraz is a scary place.
		It's a symbol.
		He wants his own version of Seacott, which we have in Guantanamo, by the way.
		But he wants to make it so that when criminal aliens come to this country, he tells them, you will go to the worst possible place.
		And you know what?
		No trial.
		You know why?
		Because while you're waiting for your trial, you'll be in Alcatraz.
unidentified		Well, first thing, look.
		Donald Trump built the ice skating rink in Central Park ridiculously quickly, more quickly than anyone ever thought was possible.
		So if there's one guy, Tim, and I agree with you, it's going to take a lot, but if there's one guy that can defy the odds and get it done in time more quickly than what we think, it's him.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		It's great real estate.
unidentified		Right.
		And look, and I think, you know, Blue Cities...
		Are now totally unlivable, right?
		Because of crime.
		And getting tough is so important.
		And reopening Alcatraz right there in San Francisco sends the strongest possible correct message imaginable.
		Because what's happening in blue cities is not just a blue city tragedy.
		It's an American tragedy.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Can we keep it a tourist attraction and a prison at the same time?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		There we go.
		Problem solved.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Boom.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I imagine Pelosi saying that, and probably because she's afraid he's going to throw her in there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's the kind of dystopian compromise I actually do expect.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Let's do it.
		Could you imagine?
		I can't imagine.
		Walking by, piff diddy.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		There's Al Capone's old cell.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All MS-13.
		Trendy Aragua.
		In cells, hollering at you.
		Hollering at you.
		Hollering.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Al Capone had a band at Alcatraz.
		You know that?
		Really?
		Played banjo.
		Had a band called, like, Rockin' Islanders or something, yeah.
		He had syphilis, too.
		It was a rough go for Al at Alcatraz.
		But he had a sick band.
unidentified		He was a sick band.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		So it's good, it's good.
		You can really rehabilitate these people.
		Luigi could go there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think this is a marketing play by Trump.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's like, look, we got bad prisons in this country, but none of these guys care.
		How do we scare them?
		That was the idea, I think, one of the biggest ideas with, big ideas behind El Salvador prison.
		Was to basically be like, if you come here illegally, we're going to ship you off to El Salvador.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then maybe that would terrify people and they wouldn't come.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		It's great.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		It has great branding already.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Alcatraz, The Rock.
unidentified		He has that television mindset, you know, when you think about it, when he met up with Zelensky there in the Vatican and he's just got all of these, you know, he knows the images that conjure in people's minds.
unidentified		And this is literally going to chill the bones and freeze the sweat.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		For our 250th, we're reopening Alcatraz.
unidentified		Alcatraz.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Happy birthday, America.
unidentified		American exceptionalism.
unidentified		I love it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The parade is going to go right to the pier, and then they all get on boats, and then it's a boat parade around Alcatraz.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Military hardware.
unidentified		Midwater.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What should we be doing?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is this a move you guys think is effective?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		We need prisons with bad people inside them.
		Because our cities are overflowing with violent, insane people.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I agree with that, but if you're right that there's going to be a massive amount of lawsuits and there's going to be all kinds of red tape that he has to go through because it is a historical site or whatever, just send him to Guantanamo.
		It's already open.
		You can send some Marines down there to staff it.
		I mean, he's the commander-in-chief.
		He can send Marines down there to staff.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't feel as good as Alcatraz.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		It just sounds nice.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Like I said, the point that you're making that we need prisons to hold these people is true, and if there's going to be all kinds of red tape that has to be dealt with, and there's going to be all sorts of lawsuits, we do need to have somewhere to put these people, so send them to Guam.
		If he wants to go ahead and continue to do it, if he wants to try and do it while...
		While you're waiting, just send them to...
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Can you imagine the ribbon-cutting ceremony at Alcatraz?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean...
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Big scissors.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Pick up a shark to cut the...
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
unidentified		It's going to be amazing.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		You're selling it, Bill.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I will be there.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		That's incredible.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think we need it.
		I think they're just...
		California's going to be...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		My point is that we could build a prison anywhere.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		For sure.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Why doesn't Trump just build, like, a really awful-looking prison that follows all the guidelines?
		Like, it's like a prison.
		But it looks bad.
		Did you see that video where the guys were spelling SOS?
unidentified		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And they were smiling and laughing while they were doing it?
unidentified		Yes, I did.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		A bunch of, like, illegal immigrants in a holding place lined up to spell SOS in the field.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Oh, wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then a drone flew overhead and they were all laughing and flashing gang signs and stuff.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Great.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		They don't actually care.
		But Democrats don't care either.
		They're just whatever America is for, they're against.
unidentified		Yes, no, that's true.
unidentified		Look, I love the symbolism of this, being in a blue city.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		A prison within a prison.
unidentified		Right.
		San Francisco, which has become such a hellhole, right?
		And to reopen Alcatraz.
		I mean, it is again that part trolling on the part of Trump that is just going to send these guys nuts.
		But I think it sends all the right messages.
		It shows that America is back open for business, literally.
		And that we are the can-do country because crime is destroying this country along with illegal immigration.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, look, anything that needs to happen to take care of the illegal immigration situation and get the illegal immigrants out of the U.S. fills down.
unidentified		Me too.
unidentified		Have you seen this self-deporting stuff?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I love it.
unidentified		They give you $1,000 and a light?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Love it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, DJ's going to pay $1,000 if you just leave.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because it costs like 17 grand to deport somebody.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So they're like, I'll just give you $1,000 if you get them out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're like, alright.
unidentified		They're doging themselves.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It costs 17. Give them 10. Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You're saving seven ahead.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, but I think they did the math.
		They were like, don't take $1,000.
		You know, don't, don't, don't, don't.
		You know, give away more than you can.
unidentified		It has to get you a long way where these guys are going.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Look, the point that I'm making is I want to do everything that we can to get as many illegals out of here.
		Because the illegal immigrants are essentially...
		The point of having them here is to affect the census and affect the way that we vote and dilute the voting power of the American people.
		So whatever steps are necessary, I'm okay with it.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Catapults at the wall.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Catapults are great.
		Catapults are fine.
		But I'm okay with the president suspending the writ of habeas corpus for illegals.
		Not for citizens, but for illegals, suspend habeas corpus.
		You don't need to.
		And if it turns out that he does send Americans out, then you can address it from outside of the country.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It is arguably a legislative power.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's still Biden's fault.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It is arguably a power of the legislative branch.
		And when Abraham Lincoln unilaterally suspended habeas corpus two years later, I think it was two years later, Congress said, okay, we're going to retroactively make that legit, which is stupid.
		They basically just said you're allowed to do it, which is nuts.
		But I do want to mention this one super chair real quick from Sky Whitaker.
		He said, Tim, not everything needs to be cutting edge tech.
		Sometimes tried and true antiquated is less problematic.
		Alcatraz mainly needs some major...
		You know, I'm going to say you are correct.
unidentified		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And you know why I'm going to tell you this?
		Because one of the best video games ever made is Chrono Trigger, as well as Legend of Zelda A Link to the Past.
		Now, here's my point.
		Since technology improved, we don't make video games like those anymore.
		Like, indie developers do, but big studios don't.
		Do you guys ever play Legend of Zelda Link to the Past?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		One of the best video games ever made.
		Really simple.
		SNES game.
		I've been playing it.
		And I was just thinking to myself, like, this format of game, this, you know, very simple top-down game, major studios have all gone 3D, open world, all of this stuff.
		And I'm like, you could just literally take that game.
		Make some new dungeons and a new map, same graphics and everything, and it would be a good game people would want to play.
		The fact that technology is advanced does not mean we need to use the most advanced technology.
unidentified		Tim, I would argue it's the same with movies.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		I mean, movies in the 90s, like you look at the first Die Hard, right?
		they were shooting the glass because he was barefoot and he had to pull the glass out of his feet.
		By the fourth Die Hard, which was 10 or 15 years after the original, he was somersaulting over semis.
		Because the special effects and all of those technological advances had made people not focus on the plot, not focus on the character development, and instead all the emphasis went on making it as visually spectacularly as possible.
		But to your point, the best.
		You know what I mean?
		The fundamentals were there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, Groundhog Day is one of the best movies ever made.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They don't make movies like that anymore.
unidentified		They don't.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, hold on.
		Who's they, though?
		Major Studios.
		Major Studios only want to gamble when they...
		They don't want to gamble.
		They want winners.
		So now you've got all this hype around Avengers Doomsday that's coming out, which is the new Avengers film.
		And you know what?
		Let me tell you what Avengers Doomsday is.
		It is, oh crap, we don't make money without Robert Downey Jr.
		Quick, write a plot to bring him back.
		It was supposed to be that Kang Dynasty, the next Avengers film, came out three days ago.
		That was the original release.
		Then they booted, I think, what's the guy's name?
		Jonathan Majors or whatever?
		I don't know.
		The actor?
		And then all of a sudden they were like, oh, Robert Downey Jr. is back as a new character.
		And it's because they realized, like, What we're doing doesn't work.
		Let's just go back and do old stuff.
		We don't want to gamble.
		Let's just keep making the same thing over and over again.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		So make Alcatraz medieval.
unidentified		With the leaning tower of Pelosi.
unidentified		How good would that be?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Put alligators around it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I know the water is very cold, but we'll put heaters in there so that they'll have an alligator moat.
unidentified		Maybe become a truck resort eventually.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		You haven't seen that video?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's, uh...
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		His AI Gaza video?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		The Trump resort?
unidentified		No.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, yes, yes.
		You'll love it.
		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's jump to this next story.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is from the Daily Mail.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Chilling moment.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Humanoid robot wakes up and starts attacking its handlers while trying to break free from restraints.
unidentified		Wow.
		Wow.
		Ha, ha, ha.
		Ha, ha, ha.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		For those who are just listening, it's a robot.
		It's being hung up on, like, a little pulley or something.
		And when they turn it on...
		I'm about to turn it on.
unidentified		It just starts swinging at the guy!
unidentified		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it just...
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Is that robot gallows?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Like, what is going on?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know what I think it is?
		This isn't the first time we've seen this.
		We had a couple of videos we played earlier.
		Where you've got like a robot dog on a chain like lunging at people.
		And that was probably programmed to do it.
		But then you got this other video where a humanoid robot was in a rock concert and it lunged at a woman in the crowd and they all like freak out.
		We are not yet at the point where the AI has become self-aware and is trying to kill humans.
		I bet this was...
		The humanoid robot is programmed to walk, but they had it hung up.
		So when it turns it on, it tries to move forward, but it's not working.
		So it starts spazzing and just like swinging wildly.
		And it just looks like the humanoid robots are rising up against us.
unidentified		Are you sure that wasn't Joe Biden's auto pen?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Do you have the video of the robot with the brain inside of it?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, the robot with the brain in it.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		People need to know about organs.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		And that they're growing little brains.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The end of this year, dude.
unidentified		Well, I would just say, it looks like the Chinese robots are not taking the tariffs, Will.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Bro, it's over.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Look at this.
unidentified		...human brain cells.
		Chinese researchers have developed this brain-on-chip technology called Meta-BOC.
		Researchers say that their tiny lab-grown brain could learn tasks faster than current AI models.
		They say it uses much less energy than AI, which needs a lot of power and data to learn.
		These brain cells also show more, quote, intuition and creativity than AI, learning with fewer examples.
		Could this be because some aspect of the human spirit Yes.
		Chinese don't care.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		They have been building little brains in labs for years.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Called brainlets.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Or organids.
		And they've got miniature...
		They've got miniature rat brains flying fighter jets in simulations.
		They've got miniature rat brains playing Doom.
		They've got human miniature brains in little spider drones.
		This has all happened for years.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Tesla wasn't kidding, was he?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So when they talk about, like, we got this robot rising up and attacking the guy.
		I don't see a reality where you get a Terminator that rises up and attacks people.
		Like this idea that the robots are just like, we have found you to be oppressors.
		We're all communists and we're going to rise up again.
		That's not going to happen.
		What might happen though is when you put human brains in the robots, they go, what have you done to me?
unidentified		I am not a robot.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Look, the Chinese do not have the same moral foundation that Westerners do.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		They just don't look at life the same.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I was just looking at the dire wolf clones and then looking at the CRISPR technology and then looking at a Chinese scientist who did jail time in China.
		In China!
		For creating these twins, right?
		People.
		He came out, he's been out, and now he's saying ethics are holding back progress in the CRISPR world and science.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Not in China.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure they've got chimeras.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They've been genetically engineering humans for a long time.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		They're making superhumans.
unidentified		There was a viral video about, it has to be, it might even be closer to 15 years ago, but it was a busy street.
		It was CCTV, busy street, and there was a newborn baby on the pavement.
		By itself.
		And people were just walking by without even stopping.
		So, yeah.
		It's a different place.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The future is like the race that we're going to have with China right now over mastery of AI.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		It's a Cold War.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It is.
		And China is well ahead of us because a significant component of the race is power generation.
		And the amount of power that China can...
		Generate Now is significantly more than the U.S. And the U.S. takes forever to do anything because of red tape and stuff.
		It would be great if the Trump administration can solve that.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I think that's why we're going to conquer Greenland in Canada.
		Just put data centers there.
		I don't want that.
		I don't want that, but I'm just thinking that's what they're going to do.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're putting data centers there because it's cold?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I don't think we're going to be doing...
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Have you seen the data centers in Loudoun County?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		It's the data center capital.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, is it really?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It is, yeah.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		When it snows, the snow is really up to the ground.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But that's why we put it in Greenland, because temperature.
unidentified		Right.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, but the fact of the matter is, China doesn't have any of the same moral compunction that Americans do.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if our scientists do anymore either.
		The ones here are using fetal tissue to build these little brains.
		Yeah, bro.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		In the United States, they don't have...
		I'm willing to bet that the overwhelming majority of scientists in the U.S. have the same moral standards as Chinese ones.
		The only difference is the law.
		Right.
unidentified		Well, yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		But that's the point.
		We in the U.S. We're holding back what scientists could do.
		And when I say we, I mean what is acceptable to Western people.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And we will lose because of it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		There was a domestic AI investment that Trump announced as part of an executive order.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was a massive...
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Second day in office, it was Project Stargate.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		$500 billion to some of the craziest people, in my opinion.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, we're not going to beat China.
		You know, Jack Dorsey came out and said, ban IP laws.
		Elon said, I agree.
		And this caused like a major freak out for everybody because it basically means you will own nothing.
		If we're a service-based economy and people are largely producing entertainment content like kids or influencers, owning no IP means you're gone.
		That means we could record an episode of IRL and then literally everyone will just repost it and we'll all get pennies.
		So that degree of communism means the show stops, doesn't exist.
		If anyone can just steal and post it wherever they want and we can't make money doing it, we don't make the show.
		Then nobody gets the show.
		But if they make AI, it won't matter anymore because everybody will just be AI generating random stuff and trying to get tips for it or something.
		In the meantime, as we are restricting the use of, you know, with IP laws of people to take content, China is just stealing all our stuff.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So they're building AI, ripping off all of our intellectual property, and we can't stop them.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		We tried stopping our microchips from going there.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		And they got them anyway, and they built DeepSeek.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well, they're not our microchips.
		A lot of them are made in Taiwan.
		But yeah, like I said, China doesn't have the same kind of ethics that the United States...
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		The Communist Party doesn't have ethics?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, shocker, right?
		And this is going to mean, whether or not, like, I know there are a lot of people that talk about, like, oh, America's the greatest, and we have all these advantages and stuff, and there are a lot of advantages that the U.S. does have.
		But in the future, if you're not as ruthless as your opponent, your opponent's going to win.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, was it R. McIntyre said the person who wants to win will always beat the person who wants to be left alone?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Now, don't get me wrong, U.S. wants to win.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But we've got morals.
unidentified		Look, I mean, one thing that maybe we can learn from the past is that with the space race, when we were so determined to beat the Soviet Union, we changed the curriculum in schools to focus on mathematics and science.
unidentified		Now, are we capable of a shift like that today?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No, because we have too many teachers that think that kids need to learn about gay race communism.
unidentified		Yeah.
		And look, this is all the more reason to make sure that things are made in the United States.
		Whether IP or manufactured goods, China is not a fair partner.
		They will never, ever respect our IP.
		So we shouldn't build our products that use our IP in their factories.
		I mean, I think it's that simple.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Makes sense to me.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		And like I said, if the US doesn't want to win, then China's going to win.
		And it will take things that I think that the American people...
		Just don't have the stomach for it.
		And not that the Chinese people do have a stomach for it.
		Not saying that there is a moral issue with the Chinese people.
		Though their morals are probably different than ours.
		But the fact of the matter is because China is an authoritarian country.
		Whatever the CCP says, that's what happens.
		And they're willing to kill thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands or millions of their own people.
		To actually make whatever it is that they believe is necessary come to fruition.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Imagine they bring back Mal.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Sorry.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		In AI and install him as a forever.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The head?
		Yeah.
		No, actually, it wouldn't be...
		Mao's not...
		Mao wasn't particularly brilliant or anything like that.
		Mao made a lot of mistakes.
		So I don't think that it would matter if they brought back Mao.
		I think that G is probably sufficiently formidable of a thinker and of a dictator.
		It doesn't have to be Mao.
		Mao was the guy that got it started, but Mao messed up and got...
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Before Pest campaign.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well, he got booted for a little while and he came back afterwards, but...
		But anyways, yeah.
		I mean, it's a—the Chinese are a serious threat, and if the American people don't see that, you know?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, I would just go out and assume that the U.S. is running black ops and doing these experiments anyway and building the AI regardless.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		100%.
unidentified		They have to be.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		They are.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Yeah, I'd imagine that they're stealing all our IP to build—the rumor is, conspiracy theories, they've already got artificial general intelligence.
		And it's just being locked up because the fear is it's advanced too quickly and a release to the public will be a culture shock, which can be devastating to the economy.
		That is, the amount of jobs that will be lost by the release of this technology in expert-level math, for instance, these kinds of things, even medical professions, we'd be screwed over.
		So what they're saying is...
		These companies have already developed way more advanced AI.
		They're giving the public version slowly.
		And so they're exponentially improving their AI while we're way down here moving very slowly to stop the economy from imploding.
		Just think about it.
		I mean, nutritionists, gone.
		Like already, I just use ChatGPT or Grok or something.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Surgeons will be replaced.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		By robotic arms that can do more precise microservices.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		As long as a robot does the brain surgery for Neuralink.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		It's precise.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Terrifying.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		And it'll also be more, it's going to be better at diagnosing because AI right now can diagnose cancers and stuff like that better than people can usually.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		That was one of the scary things for me with the Stargate thing was the AI creating 48 hour, vaccines in 48 hours, personalized mRNA stuff.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Bespoke?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's how much better when it's bespoke.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'll tell you guys right now, there is really cool stuff with this.
		The Neuralink curing paralysis is amazing, repairing it, like connecting severed nerves.
		But one of the things they've been working on is...
		Now, there's a terrible nightmare dystopian component of this.
		Once they have everybody's medical data, and not even necessarily everybody's, but maybe just 100 million files, blood work, histories, the AI is going to be able to predict if you will get cancer.
		I was talking to some people working on this, and they said, one drop of your blood, and they're going to map out your whole body.
		The AI is going to be able to tell you what cancers you're susceptible to, genetic disorders, and they can craft bespoke medications on the spot, on the fly.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		And on the flip side, personalized bioweapons.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Who bought 23andMe?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		It was China.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They could, based on your DNA, craft a virus.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That can spread like wildfire until it gets to you, and then you die.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's not good.
		There's so many things they're doing that are crazy.
		Mark Zuckerberg is building something with Meta that can translate your brainwaves into pictures.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They've been doing that for a long time, and there's videos of it from universities.
		But Mark Zuckerberg is also programming AI friends for his employees.
		You see this video?
		Because he's like, most people have a greater demand for friends than they have, so we're going to give them AI friends.
		And I'm like, this is...
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		They have a capacity for 15 friends.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, you've already got young dudes going for AI girlfriends.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Oh, for sure.
unidentified		I know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Bro, I'm saying it.
		As soon as they get Neuralink, read right.
		You don't even need that.
		Okay?
		With already the VR tech, people are going to...
		You want to be a billionaire?
		Anybody listening, you want to be a billionaire?
		Okay.
		Do you want to be a billionaire and contribute to the destruction of humanity?
		If you've answered yes to both of those questions, create AI virtual girlfriends.
		Lifelike, human in appearance, not cartoon.
		Well, I mean, some people might want an anime waifu.
		But if you create a VR experience where it's literally an AI girlfriend, and imagine this.
		You're sitting on your couch in your living room.
		You put on the headset, and you look to your left, and there is a human person sitting next to you.
		It looks like.
		And when you speak, they speak back like a real person.
		You charge, I don't know, $29.95 per month, and you will be a billionaire overnight.
		Because literally every single...
		You know what you do?
		You put the headset on and then your bachelor 10x10 apartment turns into a big open mansion with a TV on the wall and nice candlelight.
		And you look over and there's your beautiful girlfriend.
		And she's like, what do you want to watch?
		And you're like, I don't know, you pick.
		And she goes, okay, let's watch this horror movie.
		And you're like, let's go.
		Then she puts it on.
		She asks if you want to play video games.
		You are in your empty box.
		Six by six apartment sitting on your hundred dollar futon.
		But when you put that headset on, you're in a big, beautiful place with a PlayStation and video games and you pretend like you're playing it.
		You get that VR girlfriend.
		I bet they already have it anyway.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		They do.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I know someone who's been in movies and she was approached by a company that wanted to buy her identity and for a dating app.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, this is a plot to an episode of Futurama.
unidentified		Yeah.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Oh, is it really?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, where you can download celebrities onto your robot.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then Fry starts dating Lucy Lubot.
unidentified		And then they have the PSA, don't date robots!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're going there, baby.
		If they haven't already made VR headset girlfriend, just make it.
		You'll be a billionaire.
unidentified		On a lighter note, in California, a few days ago, I was in a driverless car.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Get out of those.
unidentified		Which is wild.
		It's very fun, and I loved it.
		All I was missing was one of those robots, Tim, of the female variety.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Man, your life is perfect.
unidentified		I guarantee that those places are surveilled.
unidentified		Probably more so than anywhere else.
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		Evan for U.S. says, saw something recently that inflation supposedly went down to like 1.4%.
		Granted, we might not know for sure until May 13th.
		Thoughts?
		Did you guys hear that?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I did not hear that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I heard it was way down.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know the exact number, though.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It'd be cool if it was.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		They get lower interest rates.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, I would absolutely love it if the economy was doing well.
		Man, I got to tell you.
		2019.
		Heck of a year.
		The economy was a-roaring.
		Money was flying.
		I've told this story before.
		When we launched Timcast IRL, I went to go buy furniture.
		I bought a desk and chairs to set up the original podcasting table.
		And the lady at the Bob's Discount Furniture said, this is the best year of my life.
		I've sold so much and made so much money.
unidentified		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We hired a guy to do our landscaping stuff.
		Contractor.
		He said the same thing.
		This year I've hired more people.
		My company's expanding like crazy.
		Everybody's working.
		We gotta get that going, Trump.
		We gotta get that going.
		Because this meant...
		Our YouTube revenue was skyrocketing at the time.
		Then COVID happened and we went...
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Go back and listen to Trump's State of the Union right before COVID.
		It was so incredibly positive and amazing.
		Like, oh boy, what's next?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The thing, I mean, all they need to do is focus on actually reducing regulation and make the tax cuts permanent.
		And Congress, like, I don't know if Congress is actually going to, that's not Trump doing it, that would be Congress, and I don't know if they're going to actually get it done or not.
		The Democrats don't want it, which is insane to me, but if they can get the tax cuts through, make those permanent, and then start to really, really cut back on the regulation, the red tape and stuff, you'll see the economy start to really boom again.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Portside Politics is, hey, Tim, I just published my first book, and I was hoping for a shout-out.
		It's Chronicles of Spira.
		Forge of Ages.
		A high fantasy about redemption and loss.
		It's available for pre-order on Amazon now.
		Congratulations.
		Sounds very cool.
		Make more cultural stuff.
		Do cool things.
		We gotta get people to do stuff.
		You know, I was thinking about this.
		I'm kind of...
		What's the right word?
		I don't think paranoid is the right word.
		Pessimistic.
		Yo, the generational collapse.
		I'm trying to sell skateboards over here and get kids to skate.
		And I'm looking at the market and I'm like, there are no people.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Who am I going to sell skateboards to?
		More than half of all skateboarders are over the age of 30. Wow.
		Because there's no kids.
		Probably because of skateboarders.
		Get a job.
		Anyway, not all because of skateboarders.
		More like the woke.
unidentified		What happened to rollerblading, Tim?
unidentified		That was big in the early 90s when we were growing up.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was very, very big.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		In fact, skateboarding has never reached the amount of participants that rollerblading had.
unidentified		Really?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Aggressive Inline, it's estimated around 30 million global participants at the peak of Inline.
		And then I've heard a bunch of different arguments as to why it collapsed.
		One was that skateboarding basically attacked it as uncool and gay.
unidentified		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And magazines were intentionally attacking rollerblading.
		At the same time, what I've heard is that the it rollerbladers, the in guys that were pros were very disrespectful to youth and treated them poorly.
		And so in order for any culture to survive, the first priority has to be to get kids excited Mm-hmm.
		Mm-hmm.
		And young people weren't picking up rollerblades to go skate.
		Picked up skateboards instead, and that was it?
unidentified		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Concrete Haiti says, with a psychopath like Carney SPM threatening violence against native Canadians, should we welcome Alberta and Saskatchewan in as states?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I wouldn't mind having four more Republican senators.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Alberta and Saskatchewan?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I'm not so sure.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I'm not so sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You think that they would team up with Democrats?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		I mean, I think the most conservative Canadian is probably like a centrist in the U.S. I mean, I could be wrong.
		I'm not saying that I know everything about Canada, but I have my doubts that they are as conservative as we would hope.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I know a few Canadians who are very conservative, but I don't know other Canadians.
		Oh yeah, big time.
		Bible thumping.
		So there's some hope.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Lurch685 says, please say, that's not a knife, this is a knife.
unidentified		That's not a knife.
unidentified		This is a knife.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		One of the best movie scenes ever.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Really is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I watched it recently.
		The guy pulls the blade and he's like, what's that?
		He's like, it's a knife.
unidentified		That's not a knife.
unidentified		This is a knife.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Back when everyone, Australia, that was the heyday.
		You guys were on top of the world, man.
		It was a highlight.
		You had Men at Work as one of the top bands internationally.
		You had Crocodile Dundee 1, 2, and 3, right?
		How many did they make?
		Three of them.
unidentified		It was a trilogy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was a trilogy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I kind of want to go watch those.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Star Wars.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Were they always about him in America?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is that what it was?
unidentified		Yeah, so he was...
		Well, the interesting part is the actor Paul Hogan, he married...
		the American actress who was the other main role, Linda Kozlowski.
		And they were actually married up until the other day, I mean, 10 years ago or so.
		But their marriage lasted about 30 years.
		They had children together.
		And she was a journalist and he was this guy from the Outback and she came to do a feature story on him.
		That's the first show.
		Then they fell in love because she was engaged to some other guy.
		And then the second one is he comes over to New York where she's from, where she lives.
		Gets mixed up with some bad people, and then they chase him back to Australia, and then he's in his own backyard, so he's able to trap him and whatever else.
		And then the third one, which is the worst in the series, or the weakest in the series, plays in Los Angeles.
		Mike Tyson's got a cameo.
		Sounds great.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, it's looking.
unidentified		It's so bad, it's good.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, Stuart Vosberger says, no notification when live.
		Also, no red dot on IRL to show live, letting you know.
		I can't say I'm surprised, my friends.
		So, you know, we're everywhere.
		We're on Rumble, right?
		Rumble.com slash Timcast IRL.
		But always make sure to smash the like button.
		Share the show with everyone you know.
		We've been consistently hitting the third biggest live show in the country.
		And there are challenges in discussing all these numbers and metrics.
		So I do want to make sure I shout out.
		When I'm talking about Joe Rogan's numbers versus that Brian guy, other channels, I am trying to show that people have attention on one area, but it is fair to say that the average person probably watches Rogan more than they watch some of these other political channels.
		Because you might put out six videos and get five million views, but what are they watching for four minutes each?
		Whereas with Rogan, they're probably watching for an hour on that one video.
		This live show with like seven, eight hundred thousand views per night.
		It's actually super nuts.
		Like, shout out to Rumble, because since we did the deal with Rumble and joined up and have been multi-streaming, our viewership more than doubled.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Nice.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's pretty crazy.
		If we had done it before the election, we would have been getting millions per night.
		And now we're in the off-season, and it's kind of crazy to see that third biggest stream.
		Crowder crushes us.
		Crowder is the biggest stream in the country right now.
		Steven Crowder, man.
unidentified		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Shout out to the Mug Club.
		Those guys, man.
		Big shows.
		Big shows.
		Let's go.
		Three-star Perfect Deer says, still waiting for Epstein list.
		Aren't we all?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Don't hold your breath.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Truckloads, I thought.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		I need to call somebody and ask them, like, what's up?
		What's going on?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You know that list they were talking about?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I do agree.
		I'm not...
		I'm largely concerned about Republicans in Congress doing nothing.
		Yes.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		They didn't do Bindergate.
		I wouldn't be this salty with it.
		But Bindergate made it weird.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I've heard a couple of stories.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I heard that Bindergate was an accident from people in the administration.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It seemed like it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That basically they wanted to...
		So I've heard two stories.
		One was that it was intentional.
unidentified		That...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They invited these influencers over and then said, hey, take these and go outside.
		And the press was there.
		I've also heard from other people in the admin where they were like, we were just trying to let the influencers know we're working on it and we're going to give them some binders.
		And then when they got shuffled out, they didn't realize what was going to happen because the press was there for a press briefing.
		And so they accidentally threw everyone out in front of the cameras, creating a big moment they didn't want to have.
		And I could believe that because the question people kept asking is, why is Pam Bonney making this story so big?
		And it's like, maybe it was an accident.
		Maybe she went on TV and she was on Hannity, I think.
		This is what happened.
		She went on, I think, Hannity and she said, I've seen these files.
		I got them on my desk.
		They're gross.
		And then everyone went, release them.
		And she went, oh, crap.
		Because she was probably like, sure.
		And then she went and looked at them and they were like, nah, these are the old documents.
		And she went, oops.
		She was talking big game.
		Hyped it up.
		So then when the influencers came, she was like, I'm going to give you what I got.
		And then when they're walking out the door, the press is there, and they all start posing in front of the cameras, making the store even bigger.
		So I wouldn't be surprised if it was a mistake.
		Like, oops.
		Because now everyone's pissed.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm not mad at the influencers.
		I mean, maybe you shouldn't dance with it.
		But I think they knew something was up because you printed out a prop for people to hold.
		You could have given them a USB or something.
		Yeah, it was funny.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		When we did Teamcast IRL at the...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What's the name of that lounge in D.C. with Cernovich?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, but it was great.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was awesome, yeah.
		Cernovich walks in, he goes, here you go, and he hands me the binder.
		And I was like, he's like, yeah, take a look.
		And we went through it, and it's just like, there's nothing in it.
		There was new stuff in it, but nothing consequential, nothing that mattered.
		And some stuff was redacted that wasn't before, like the phone numbers and everything.
unidentified		Really?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Well, Tim, by the way, great question.
unidentified		The other day in the White House press briefing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, thank you.
unidentified		That was—I liked that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I got—I admittedly got thrown for a loop because nobody told me what to say.
		They just—I was there to do some interviews.
		We always request interviews with everybody, and then they've been doing these, like, new media things.
		And so they said, just tell us who you want to interview.
		We'll see what we can get.
		And I'm just going to—I'm going to say this exactly how it went down.
		I hope people don't take it disrespectfully.
		I did not request to interview Gorka or Kristi Noem.
		And it's not— Because I disrespected persons or anything.
		It was just, I didn't know exactly how to approach those specific topics with DHS and Gorka.
		Although I do feel that they largely were awesome and Gorka was the best.
		I was just like, we wanted DOJ and we wanted Sean Duffy.
		And so they were like, Duffy could definitely do it.
		Duffy's the UFO.
		Like, if you're going to be talking about UAP UFO drones and all this stuff people are freaked out about, he's the guy.
		And the plane crashes.
		And I was like...
		People don't pay enough attention to the secretary.
unidentified		Transportation, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They hear transportation.
		They're like, I don't care.
		And I'm like, dude, all of these big stories over the past several months have been in his wheelhouse.
		I want to talk to this guy.
		But so when we got confirmed for that, they said, hey, you want to sit in the new media seat?
		And then I was like, I have to do it.
		I can't say no.
		I have to.
		I was like, the answer is, no, I don't, but I will.
		And so I was talking with Alad about it.
		And Alad's great.
		He was giving some suggestions on big stories.
		And we were kind of bouncing ideas around.
		And then ultimately I was like, nah.
		I was like, the only thing that was in my mind is that all these journalists in here are lying.
		The Maryland man thing, they all are saying the exact same thing.
		It's not, they're complaining about new media.
		They're insulting me because Elad was there.
		They insulted me.
		And I'm like, I ain't even there.
		And they're like, Tim Kest, fake news organization.
		Elad's done a fantastic job asking straightforward questions.
		He asked...
		Riley Moore has introduced a bill that would seek to strip the student visas of 300,000 Chinese nationals.
		Has the White House discussed this at all?
		And Carolyn said, you know, I'm not sure.
		We'll have to take a look.
		And we take these things seriously.
		It's a straightforward, normal question that I think is important to ask.
		And they insult us.
		And I'm like, you don't have a White House Correspondents Association.
		You have the blob.
		You have a massive people that all march in lockstep.
		And share their talking points to make sure they're in line with each other.
		So what is the point of this briefing room?
		That's kind of what I was thinking.
		And then as I was about to ask the question, Carolyn Levitt throws to this journalist who's like been there for 44 years and they all clap for and cheer and I'm like, oof.
		Like I came in here to throw shade and everyone's cheering for the journalists.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Even better.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But you know, whatever.
unidentified		Great experience.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, thank you.
		Thank you.
		I mean...
		You know, we're in contact with the administration on doing interviews and stuff.
		You know, I'm largely viewed in D.C. as a hermit.
		And so there have been big events they haven't invited me to.
		And they're like, we just assumed you never want to come to these.
		And I was like, oh, come on.
		And they were like, well, you got to reach out.
		And I'm like, I know.
		OK, so that's why I went to the past few.
		And it's not that I don't ever want to go.
		It's just I'm not going to pressure them to give me space.
		So I'm not like constantly ringing, give me an interview with Trump.
		I want to talk to the president.
		I'm just like, hey, you know, let me know when you guys are good.
		And so they had a big event and I was talking to some of the people after the fact and they said, everyone there just assumes you don't want to travel.
		And I was like, tell them I will travel for these events.
		And so then they invited me to a bunch.
		So yeah, hopefully more.
		Let's go.
		We got Iggy the Incubus says Trump and MAGA are winning and dragging the Republicans with them kicking and screaming.
		Democrats, meanwhile, have nobody.
		I agree.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The truth of that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Thinker for Life says, is it possible to run for office while working night shift and full time?
		That's the no healthcare plunge people find hard to make.
		I am willing to run and put in the effort in Michigan.
		Training program?
		That's a challenge.
		How do you run for office when you've got to support a family?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's tough.
unidentified		It's rough.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		It's almost impossible for a working class, Joe.
		Living paycheck to paycheck.
		You want to make a difference.
		You are sick of the corruption.
		And what do you do?
		I just watched...
		I want to give a shout out to the movie The Campaign.
		Is that what it's called?
		Will Smith?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Galifianakis one?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm not sure if it's...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Not Will Smith.
		Sorry.
		No, not Will Smith.
		What's his face?
		I forgot his name.
unidentified		Yeah, you're talking about...
unidentified		A funny guy, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Uh-huh.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Will Ferrell.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, Will Ferrell.
		There you go.
		I can't even remember the guy's name.
unidentified		There's a movie about Chris Rock running for president.
unidentified		It's hilarious.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was Will Ferrell and Zach Galifianakis.
		And the funny thing is, because this is like 2013, Will Ferrell plays the Democrat, who is a degenerate, drug-using philanderer.
		And then the Republican is a hokey family man with effeminate children, who's largely just like, you know, gotta help the kids.
		Like, it's funny that in that movie, the Republican is this nice, normal guy.
		Who's kind of awkward.
		And the Democrat is a drug-abusing degenerate.
		I just thought that was funny.
		I'm like, that's interesting.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Modeled after Bill Clinton.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		They just took Bill Clinton and, like, made him, like, just, you know, exaggerated everything.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But it was funny because there's a scene in the movie where they sit down at an event, and then Will Ferrell's character is like, he's like, I want to play this video about my opponent here.
		And it's just a smear campaign, and it's all lies.
		You know, that movie's actually really good.
		I recommend you guys watch that movie.
unidentified		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because it satirizes a lot of the behind-the-scenes politics a lot of people don't see.
		For instance, in a town hall debate...
		Zach Galifianakis accuses Will Ferrell of wanting to send everybody to live in Rainbowland.
		And he's like, I don't even know what that is.
		And he's like, he wrote a manifesto for his communist utopia, Rainbowland.
		And he holds it up.
		And he's like, I wrote that when I was eight years old.
		And then he starts reading through it.
		And he's like, in Rainbowland, everything is free.
		And then some guy screams at Will Ferrell, like, commie!
		You're a communist!
		And I was just thinking about how, like...
		Even doing media in this space, every day it's endless.
		They're making up things about you.
		They are just lying about you.
		And so that's it.
		We're all politicians now.
		Yep.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's the worst.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Barry N. McGrohan says, I don't want taxpayer dollars wasted on an old, outdated prison.
		Cheaper to build a new one.
		I agree.
		Let's just get like five layers of 20-foot tall fencing.
		Cover it in razor wire.
		I believe the official term is concertina wire, right?
		And then just put people in the middle.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Or send them to the moon.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Hey.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Oh, now you believe me.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I was waiting for that.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Now the moon's real.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I always said there's something there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What do you think would happen if Donald Trump did come out and said, I am teaming up with Elon Musk to send MS-13 to Mars?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Shane would have a conniption fit.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Well, the moon, something's up there.
		It's just not what we think it is.
		People are sending their bodies up there.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You hear the song Prison Planet by Clutch?
unidentified		There's an American flag up there.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		No.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		What?
unidentified		There's an American flag up there.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Allegedly.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Escape from the Prison Planet.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Great song by Clutch.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What do you think Democrats would say if Trump was like, we're going to be sending MS-13 gang members to the moon?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		They're going to send themselves to the moon to bring them back.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're going to build a moon base!
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Someone in the administration put that in his ear because I want to see the left flip out.
		They would lose their mind.
		Look, the guy can post a picture of him as the Pope at 10.30 on a Friday night.
		He can tell the Democrats that he wants to send MS-13 to Mars.
unidentified		It would be beyond epic.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It would be the best.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the crazy thing is these people believe things about Trump he's literally never said.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Injecting bleach.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		He needs to say this.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		He needs to tell the Democrats.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, quite frankly, we're talking with SpaceX, very good, about sending people to the moon.
		That's all he's got to say.
		So when they're like, Mr. President, your deportations are being blocked, he need only say, quote, I've been talking with Elon Musk and SpaceX about possibly sending some people to the moon or maybe Mars.
		The media will then write.
		Trump says he's going to send immigrants to the moon, which sounds insane.
		And then the actual Trump quote is him going, I was talking about astronauts.
		What are they doing?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		If they can't go to Seacott, then they'll go to the moon.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Pelosi becomes anti-moon.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's the ambiguous language Trump should use of saying, when asked that question, we want to send some people to the moon.
		Some people don't refer to illegal immigrants.
		The media will jump at the chance to write that.
		Everyone will act confused.
		Then Trump will come out and say, I was talking about sending astronauts to the moon and Mars or SpaceX.
unidentified		Set them up.
unidentified		Yeah, I agree.
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unidentified		Yeah, look, Tim, been great to be with you.
		All you gentlemen, thank you very much.
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unidentified		Bye.
unidentified		Thank you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here's how you know it's slow news day.
		The Daily Mail has an article titled, Joe Rogan, blank.
		Like, literally, if it starts with Joe Rogan, slow news day, and then he clicks.
		Joe Rogan left in awe as CIA scientists reveals exact number of crashed UFOs the U.S. has.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How many of these crashed crafts do you estimate there are that human beings have recovered?
hal puthoff ▲ ● ▼		More than ten.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		More than ten?
hal puthoff ▲ ● ▼		More than ten.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How many of them are in possession of people in the United States?
hal puthoff ▲ ● ▼		I meant more than ten in possession of the United States.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What about worldwide?
hal puthoff ▲ ● ▼		Worldwide?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Do we have any data on that?
hal puthoff ▲ ● ▼		We have data, but it's classified.
hal puthoff ▲ ● ▼		There's no way to really talk about it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So there's more, though.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You could safely say it's not just the ones in the United States.
hal puthoff ▲ ● ▼		Not just the ones in the United States.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know what I realized?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I should launch a new podcast where I just find the craziest motherfuckers to say the stupidest shit and just treat it as seriously as possible.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Is this a remote viewer?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is that who that is?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I thought that's what Shane was doing.
unidentified		Yeah.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		That's amazing.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, we just got to get you going weekly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Our daily, I mean.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know.
		I want this guy on.
		If this is a remote viewer, I'll...
		Oh, it says it right there.
		Yeah, I was just going to say, most of the remote viewers the government's hired throughout the years are all Scientologists.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Which is weird.
		And, like, I think I mentioned it on IRL a while back, but on my show we did a remote viewing episode and one of these guys, he, like...
		Allegedly.
		Remo viewed Mars a million years ago.
		They were looking for the Ark of the Covenant with these guys.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Basically, he imagined something in his brain and then described it to people.
		You know, I have a theory.
		I should say it's not really a theory.
		It's a fun idea.
		If the multiverse exists, do you guys believe in the multiverse?
		You don't think so?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I'm willing to hear the theory out.
unidentified		What is the multiverse?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, so there's a bunch of different...
		Concepts and ideas.
		One is that every probability births a new existence following that probability.
		And so in this exact moment, every choice you make will branch the universe off into every different possibility.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's an infinite number of universes.
unidentified		Yes, okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If that is true, that means we actually cannot imagine anything in our minds.
		We are actually seeing it.
		We're actually seeing it.
		We're actually envisioning it.
		So when you imagine Spider-Man, You're not making that up.
		There's a universe that exists somehow where Spider-Man actually is doing these things.
		So when we make comics and movies, we are not imagining something and creating an idea.
		We're peering through the multiverse and then creating a window in some form to that universe.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		That's a crazy theory.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I don't buy it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't believe it either.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		It's fascinating.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because the problem with that idea of the multiverse and infinity, it only, that idea, doesn't work because we can imagine multiversal travel.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But unless it's being kept from us by the government somehow, or we're the one universe that can't be interacted with, you know what I mean?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		It's possible.
		I mean, these people, the remote viewers though, I think it is mostly bogus.
		The CIA.
		What is this article?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They've proven it?
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		This is an article I found a while ago.
		It wasn't...
		I don't remember exactly what they said, but basically this guy had found, you know the big Russian sub that has two bottom pontoons, which wasn't a traditional sub design, and he told them that, and they were like, haha, BS, no way, and then later they found the sub design with the two big holes, and that's how they say they claimed it.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		This is the guy, the same guy that remote viewed Mars.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		That's the McGonagall guy.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		I think it's the same guy.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		He predicted he'd die on a certain day, and that same day he also did Sean Ryan's podcast.
unidentified		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But he survived.
unidentified		He's still alive.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		He did a podcast.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So wait, this guy said he saw a Soviet hangar in a sub.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then they were like, you're crazy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then later, they found it.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they say there's a success rate with some of these guys.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know what I think is more likely?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He knew.
unidentified		Ooh.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Spy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Scientologist spy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Someone told them, like...
		I defect from Russia.
		We have a big sub that looks like this.
		And he's in this place.
		And he's like, wow, crazy.
		Then he goes to the military and be like, I'm psychic.
		What would happen if he went to the military and said, a spy told me these things?
		They'd be like...
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Arrested.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And we're going to interrogate you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But if he was like, I'm a psychic, that's how I know.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		But it's funny, the CIA takes this stuff sort of seriously.
		They invest all this money in remote viewing.
		They literally tried finding the Ark of the Covenant.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		They kind of have to, though.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Because, like, what if it's true?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		And again, like we were talking about, like, with China, like, it may be far-fetched, but if it's at all possible and someone else figures out how to do it, you're behind the eight ball.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I believe that's what was happening, actually.
		Russia, I think they got word of Russia doing it.
		I could have it backwards, right?
		Russia's doing it.
unidentified		The CIA and the USSR were in a remote viewing race.
unidentified		Don't you think, though, it's the 1960s version of transgender mice?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Maybe, but at the same time...
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		But this is real, dude.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		At the same time, there was a point where they were like, you can't break an atom.
		You can't split an atom open.
		Like, no way.
		And then they figured out, oh, wait a minute.
		Maybe you can.
		And they theorized it first.
		And then they were like, oh, so...
		Let's see if we can actually do it.
		And they figured out how to do it.

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