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Trump Pushes To END ALL INCOME TAX Says NYT As Kamala IMPLODES w/Danny Polishchuk | Timcast IRL
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There we go.
tim pool
All right, everybody.
Man, every time we try to start the show, this is just freezing, but it's okay because we're here and we love you.
So we got big news.
Donald Trump has been increasingly pushing rhetoric around ending all income tax.
And it's one thing for Trump to go to a rally or to go to an event and say, you know, things were a lot better when we didn't have an income tax.
But the New York Times says that Donald Trump is flirting with the ultimate idea.
Ending all income tax.
In fact, NBC has already stated that Donald Trump's policies could exempt 93 million Americans from all income tax.
So I'm just sitting here being like, I can only vote for the guy one time.
You don't need to sell me on him anymore.
So we'll talk about that because it is kind of an extreme position that I'm sure a lot of libertarians are now deciding to vote for Trump over.
But we also have the Kamala Harris Town Hall on CNN, which has to have been the worst town hall ever done by a candidate in history.
And I mean, anywhere at any point.
We're going to play clips.
But, yo, it was so bad.
The Washington Post is saying it was bad.
And CNN panelists were saying it was bad.
I got to tell you, when you have a CNN panelist being like, well, Kamala was just spewing word salad.
What was that?
Yeah, it was really bad.
And then, of course, we'll talk about how the odds are starting to line up.
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Not that the world's going to end, we don't know for sure, but the Independent has stated the Civil War has already begun.
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I've only ever said I think we're on track for one.
Now the media is actually saying, we're in one.
When you look at how the election is being held, one believing in you can vote whenever you want, even after the election day, and one believing in a constitution, certainly seems like we have two completely different countries.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is a man of great emotional intelligence, Danny Polishman.
danny polishchuck
Hey!
What's up?
How's it going?
tim pool
Who are you?
danny polishchuck
I'm very good.
Very good.
Exciting.
tim pool
Who are you?
danny polishchuck
Exciting.
Oh, who am I? I'm a comedian.
I'm a comedian, co-host of The Boys Cast, hosts a podcast called Low Value Mail, a call-in show, and just an all-around comedy guy.
tim pool
Of high emotional intelligence.
danny polishchuck
Of high emotional intelligence, of course.
Yes, very emotionally intelligent.
ian crossland
Your first answer, when he asked you who you are, and you said, I am very good.
danny polishchuck
I thought he said, how are you?
I'm not the other kind of intelligence.
The smart kind.
tim pool
The right one.
danny polishchuck
The right one, yeah, yeah.
Not the guy kind.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
ian crossland
You're one of the more emotionally intelligent people.
danny polishchuck
The wife disagrees.
tim pool
As it should be.
ian crossland
Good to see you guys.
Ian Crossland here.
I'm a loyalist to the democratic process.
Happy to be in the house.
tim pool
I thought I was going to say party for a second.
I was getting worried.
ian crossland
No.
No sycophants in this house.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
Danny's got his Kamala Harris Madam President shirt on.
danny polishchuck
My Master P. Master P. What's up, Phil?
phil labonte
Hello, everybody.
My name is Phil Labonte.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.
I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
So let's get into it.
tim pool
Here we go.
I can't believe...
Look, so Kamala Harris did this town hall and it was extremely bad.
But the New York Times has run this headline, so we have to lead with it.
Trump flirts with the ultimate tax cut.
No income taxes at all.
unidentified
Woo!
tim pool
Former president has repeatedly praised a period in American history when there was no income tax and the country relied on tariffs to fund the government.
I love this because we're 12 days out from the election day.
Votes are coming in right now.
Republicans, I think, in North Carolina have already taken the lead in absentee ballot returns, which indicates they're winning and likely going to win the state.
And the New York Times is like, what can we do to make sure that everyone everywhere votes for Donald Trump?
And they said, let's say that Donald Trump wants to eliminate the income tax.
And that's what they wrote.
You've got this also from CNBC.com.
Trump tax plan could exempt 93 million Americans from income taxes.
OK, well, I can only vote for the guy one time.
You don't need to sell me on voting form again.
But is there anyone in this room who would be opposed to eliminating the income tax?
danny polishchuck
No.
Not looking good for Chase Oliver, though.
That just sunk his campaign.
phil labonte
Will you get out libertarian by Donald Trump?
danny polishchuck
Chase Oliver's banging the table right now.
Be like, what?
phil labonte
That's the only thing I had.
unidentified
My thing!
tim pool
My thing.
ian crossland
I would not say no to this.
I just am wondering how it's going to work.
danny polishchuck
I don't think it will.
tim pool
Oh, I knew Ian was going to be like, I like the income tax.
ian crossland
Yeah.
Oh, he said yes!
But like Phil said, it would make the government recalibrate and stop spending so much because they'd have to take...
phil labonte
They don't have the Federal Reserve and the income tax to manage inflation because that's all the income tax is for.
The idea that people have in their head that we take tax money in to pay for things, that's completely wrong.
Because the government has the printer and the Federal Reserve prints money for us, the income tax is just a means of taking money out of the system to help control inflation.
There's two ways that they control inflation.
Taxation and by changing the interest rate.
So if they print too much money, they just raise taxes to take the money out of the system.
If you take away their ability to print money, Endlessly, then you have to end the foreign wars.
The foreign expansionism, basically all of the times that the government decides we're going to put this policy into place, which essentially is a way to buy people's, any kind of service that they offer.
So free healthcare, we're going to give college students money, we're going to do all this.
All of this is buying votes.
It's the government saying, we're going to give you this, and the hope is this group, this special interest group, they will go ahead and they'll vote for us.
And that's what the government does.
They print money, give it to people hoping that they'll vote for it, for whichever person implemented the thing.
So it takes that power away, and it'll make the government, hopefully, in theory, it'll make the government more accountable to a more...
A more restrained economic policy.
ian crossland
It also incentivizes international trade, which I think is very interesting.
danny polishchuck
But this is getting offset with the tariffs, from what I understand.
He's like, we're going to be charging all these tariffs.
But like I looked at it before, there's probably like, you know, there's tens of millions of Americans who don't pay any income tax because they fall under the threshold.
And the tariffs are going to increase the cost of everything they buy.
So unless Trump...
tim pool
It's not going to increase the cost of everything.
danny polishchuck
Well, anything that has a tariff on it.
Unless Trump can negotiate with the...
What's that?
tim pool
Imported products.
danny polishchuck
Imported products.
phil labonte
There are currently...
tim pool
So your milk, bread, and eggs are fine.
danny polishchuck
Well, there'll be a temporary period where you have to start firing up factories in this country to make the things that...
tim pool
So that will improve the economy.
danny polishchuck
In the long run, but there will be a tremendous amount of pain short term.
phil labonte
There would be stuff that has to be sorted out.
But if you have things that are produced in the United States, prices would ostensibly go down.
You would have companies incentivized to produce things here in the U.S. as opposed to sending them overseas.
And currently, there's tariffs and stuff on any number of products.
It's not like there's no tariffs or anything.
danny polishchuck
There's tons of stuff.
Negotiate, right?
phil labonte
So it's not like, oh, we're going to get rid of income tax and there's no tariffs and we're going to put tariffs on everything and then everything is going to change.
There's already tariffs.
It's not like it's some brand new thing that we don't have.
tim pool
No, Trump invented it.
phil labonte
As much as there are going to be people that are going to be affected by it, and it's going to cause distortions in the market, and there's going to be things that have to settle down, if it is implemented, it's not like it's some...
It's not like it'll be something that we don't have experience with, because there are tariffs here.
And right now, what did you say?
There's how many people that don't pay?
danny polishchuck
I think I read that 60 million people paid less than 1.5% income tax, which is essentially zero.
phil labonte
Those people don't pay...
Any kind of net income tax either, because they get that money back.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
phil labonte
So there's probably, I think it's less than 50% of the people.
tim pool
40% of U.S. households do not pay income tax in these United States.
danny polishchuck
There you go.
So that's a lot of people where you're, like, I mean, a lot of items will go up in price.
Like, especially any...
tim pool
Which ones?
danny polishchuck
Anything that has an impact.
Like, if he says, I'm going to slap a tariff on aluminum or steel, right?
Anything that's made with aluminum or steel...
tim pool
But that's saying we don't source aluminum or steel in our own country.
The purpose of the tariff is so that we bring those jobs back to you.
danny polishchuck
I understand that.
I'm saying you can't do that like snap a finger.
You could say in 10 years from now we'll have that all set up, but I don't think you can do that.
But they can also just print a bunch of money in.
tim pool
But he's not running it.
So you know what he should do?
Just his first year, he should just do it, and then we'll have a little dip, and then it'll spike back up.
ian crossland
Or do it over a five-year period where every year there's a reduction, and then it scales up.
danny polishchuck
Unless he's not trying to be president again.
tim pool
Right.
Yeah, so he's going to come in and be like, no, I'm fixing this.
danny polishchuck
So hate me.
I don't know.
tim pool
Yeah.
I don't know that he could handle being hated, though.
But for real, he puts his name in gold letters on top of the building.
danny polishchuck
I mean, I was saying this to you before.
Like, obviously, I'm not from America.
I followed American politics.
But I don't ever remember leading up to an election like this close where all these people are just tabling all these crazy ideas that they had not said before.
tim pool
Remember when Trump is like, no tax on tips.
And then Kamala goes, no tax on tips.
And then Trump's like, no tax on Social Security.
And she's like...
I'll forgive all of your debt.
And J.D. Vance is like, $5,000 tax credit per child.
And she goes, $6,000 tax credit per child.
danny polishchuck
It's like an auction.
unidentified
And then Trump is like, no more taxes.
danny polishchuck
That's crazy, though.
It's like an auction.
What I recall, it used to be like, this is my platform.
This is what I'm running on, and we're going to take this to the end.
phil labonte
Conceptually.
tim pool
I'm stoked.
I hope Kamala goes nuts.
danny polishchuck
She has to.
tim pool
We're going to get rid of all taxes and give you from the government coffers.
And then Trump is just like, we're going to completely dismantle government.
Everyone's fired.
And then I vacate the presidency.
There's no politicians left.
danny polishchuck
I mean, she's literally like, no taxes and he's Hitler.
And then next week he's Mussolini too.
tim pool
But what's funny is the direction they're going is basically they are competing with dismantling government.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Yes.
This is a win-win for the American population.
danny polishchuck
The libertarians are doing the Randy Marsh meme at the computer.
tim pool
I think Angela McArdle is secretly orchestrating everything that's going on.
phil labonte
I mean, he's going to put a libertarian in the cabinet somewhere, which would be wonderful.
The idea that he wants to get rid of the bureaucracy, that he's going to cut back, and the bureaucracy is great.
If you could actually get significant real cuts in cabinet-level bureaucracies, that would be tremendous.
I mean, I'm a big cut.
I want small government.
I want as small as we can get it.
So if they're going to cut cabinet-level bureaucracies down to size and roll back the administrative state—and that's one of the things that Elon Musk is talking about because part of the problem that— SpaceX is running into.
It's like they had to do...
Did you see the seal thing they had to do?
danny polishchuck
Oh yeah, they had to like kidnap seals and blast loud noises on them.
phil labonte
They had to kidnap seals and put earphones on them and simulate sonic booms to see if it would affect them.
So that way they could get the approval from the FAA to shoot rockets.
tim pool
The best part is it did not affect the seal and apparently the seal just sat there confused and its heart rate did not elevate or anything.
It was just like nothing happened.
phil labonte
But one of the things that Musk has been saying is like, look, we're never going to be a society or a civilization that can reach Mars if we have to have all of these regulations.
One of the things that Musk has caught hell for is that people used to make fun of him because all his rockets would explode.
But he was going on five different iterations of the rockets, and he would learn from each one that blew up.
So the first few of them would blow up, but then the third one would go, and then it would have a small problem, but it wouldn't be a rud, right?
danny polishchuck
Now he's catching them with the chopsticks.
phil labonte
Yeah, and the point is, like, Boeing has done almost nothing to talk about.
They're so slow, and that's because they're not taking big risks, and they're not pushing the way that Musk is.
One of the things that Musk wants is he's like, look, I need the federal government to take the shackles off.
So I can experiment and I can push the technology as far and as fast as it can.
And I personally think that part of the reason why you had massive innovation in the United States leading up until about the 70s, right?
We had significant innovation from basically the beginning of the Industrial Revolution until about the 70s or 80s is because the administrative state and the bureaucracy and the regulations were significantly less than they are now and people were allowed to try things in I'm just thinking how funny it is that there's like some alien and he's complaining to his customers like, look, the government is making me abduct these guys and stick probes with their ass.
tim pool
We don't want to do it, but they make us do it to simulate anti-gravity.
danny polishchuck
And then we're doing it to the SEALs.
It's basically the same stuff.
ian crossland
I'm thinking about them.
tim pool
Like you're a SEAL minding your own business with your homies and then like a crane grabs you out of the water and you're like...
What's happening?
danny polishchuck
Headphones.
tim pool
And when you come back, like, nobody believes you.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
danny polishchuck
Like, they made me listen to just loud noises.
I don't really get it.
The income tax thing, though, too, is, you know, the debt, like, constantly increasing and the cost to service it.
Like, the taxes can't go any higher, right?
phil labonte
Well, yeah, they can.
danny polishchuck
You think they can go much above 50%?
phil labonte
There are people...
tim pool
Well, first of all, they're basically above...
danny polishchuck
But I'm saying, do you think there's really that much margin?
phil labonte
There was a time between the 50s and the 80s when the top marginal tax rate was like 90%.
Nobody paid it.
There was tons of ways for you to get around it, and that's what ends up happening.
But the Laffer curve says that there's a certain amount of taxation that you can do, and everything before that you get diminished returns.
tim pool
And don't forget...
You're Canadian.
What's your income tax in Canada?
danny polishchuck
I mean, in Ontario, it was about the same as what I pay in New York City, which is close to...
tim pool
Half?
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
tim pool
So don't forget, you've also got sales tax.
danny polishchuck
Yep.
tim pool
So now, add another percentage to everything you buy.
It says $1.10 now.
Then you've got property taxes.
Then you've got gas taxes.
So all in all, you're probably spending 60-70% of your income in taxes.
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
danny polishchuck
I mean, it's crazy.
But I'm just saying, like, eventually they're going to get to the point where the income tax is just going to cover the debt.
Like, the debt repayment.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
The interest.
danny polishchuck
Just the interest.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Oh, dude.
We're facing collapse because the U.S. government is barely able to cover the interest on the debt they owe.
So the U.S. government basically makes...
Most of the debt is owed to the American people.
The U.S. government says, we need to implement a project, so we're going to accrue a bunch of debt from various companies, individuals, contracts, bonds, etc.
And then they have to tax everybody to try and pay it back after.
They're basically just saying, I will gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today.
And eventually it's like, bro, your debt sheet is like 50 hamburgers.
And it's like, just need more people to come in that I can tax a hamburger from to pay you back.
danny polishchuck
I mean, it's crazy.
tim pool
So they open the border, let everybody come in so they can desperately increase the tax base.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, and lower wages, I guess.
I don't know.
It seems to go up, what?
It's like a trillion dollars a month or something right now?
phil labonte
Right now, the debt is increasing a trillion dollars a year.
danny polishchuck
A trillion dollars a year.
ian crossland
But it's going up.
It's increasing faster.
danny polishchuck
Insane.
tim pool
Well, it'll be fun to see how this escalation continues.
Hopefully, Kamala Harris comes out and vows to abolish all taxes and to give us money back.
Yeah, that's right, your girl.
But let's jump to the story from the Washington Post.
It was frustrating to watch three columnists on Harris's CNN town hall.
Harris's town hall gave her a last minute chance to reach undecided voters.
How did she do?
Well, it's the Betteridge's laws of headline states that if a headline ends the question, the answer is usually no.
But if the question is, how did she do?
The assumption would be the negative poorly because they wouldn't need to ask if they have reason to believe she did well.
We'll jump back to this, but I need to only show you this one segment that was posted by Dave Portnoy, so you can understand exactly how Kamala Harris did.
I'm sorry that you have to listen to this, but knowing is half the battle.
unidentified
Is there something you can point to in your life, political life or in your life in the last four years, that you think is a mistake that you have learned from?
kamala harris
I mean, I've made many mistakes.
They range from, you know, if you've ever parented a child, you know you make lots of mistakes, too.
In my role as vice president, I mean, I've probably worked very hard at making sure that I am well-versed on issues, and I think that is very important.
It's a mistake not to be well-versed on an issue and feel compelled to answer a question.
tim pool
So, I want to just...
Actually, I want to...
Okay, so you're probably thinking...
The first thing you thought was probably...
unidentified
What?
danny polishchuck
Well, it's one of those trap interview questions.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
danny polishchuck
When you go, like, what are your weaknesses?
You're like, if anything, I work too hard.
tim pool
Yeah.
Well, actually, the Trump campaign posted the Michael Scott thing where he's like, my weaknesses are actually strengths.
Some say I work too hard.
But notice what she did.
I actually want to give her credit for this.
Listen to this last portion.
kamala harris
And I think that is very important.
It's a mistake not to be well-versed on an issue and feel compelled to answer a question.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
You see what she did there?
He asks her a question she can't answer.
She stumbles through it for 30 seconds and then realizes, as she can't answer it, it's a mistake she did not prepare for this question.
And then literally says to her at the end, it is a mistake to not prepare for a question and be forced to be compelled to answer.
danny polishchuck
And how can you not name one mistake you made, Afghanistan?
Hello?
tim pool
Name one mistake you've made right now, Danny.
danny polishchuck
Um...
I don't make mistakes.
tim pool
You bought the shirt.
danny polishchuck
No, this is the best $20 I ever spent.
Washington, D.C. train station.
ian crossland
Upstairs kiosk.
Body language experts love criticizing this woman.
When she starts to answer the question, she's like, yeah, I made a, yeah.
And she's shaking her head, no, no, no.
But she's saying yes.
That's how she starts it.
She's just like a two-faced kind of.
tim pool
That was a really great example of her literally saying nothing but words were coming out of her mouth.
Now listen to this one.
Here we go.
unidentified
Regarding the rapid increase in the migrant population, how will you ensure that every immigrant is integrated into American society safely?
What benefits and subsidies will you provide them with, and how long will these benefits and subsidies last for an individual?
Most importantly, will the American citizens' taxes pay for these benefits and subsidies?
And if so, how much money will be allocated?
tim pool
Okay, I'm going to pause real quick just to say his question was five parts.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It's pretty hefty.
But how many are being let in?
Are they going to receive benefits?
What are those benefits?
Who's going to pay for them?
Are they going to be assimilated?
Now listen to this answer.
kamala harris
Well, thank you, Jackson.
Let's start with this.
America's immigration system is broken and it needs to be fixed.
And it's been broken for a long time.
And part of what we need to do is always prioritize what we need to do to strengthen our border.
I will tell you I'm the only person in this race among the two choices that voters have.
I've personally prosecuted transnational criminal organizations.
In the trafficking of guns, drugs, and human beings.
I have spent a significant part of my career making sure that our border is secure and that we do not allow criminals in and we don't allow that kind of trafficking to happen and come into our country.
And as my opponent, I love this.
tim pool
I do want to highlight one quick thing in the beginning real quick.
Just one more time.
kamala harris
America's immigration system is broken and it needs to be fixed.
And it's been broken for a long time.
And part of what we need to do is always prioritize what we need to do to strengthen our border.
tim pool
What we need to do is to always prioritize what we need to do.
Did you hear that?
What we need to do is to always prioritize what we need to do to strengthen our border.
Which would be, lady...
Okay, okay, Danny.
I'm gonna break this down for the layman.
Ask me a tough question.
danny polishchuck
What are you going to do with the spiraling national debt?
tim pool
I like Yerba Mate.
It's a delicious drink.
That right there looks like you have orange exuberance.
It's delicious, isn't it?
It's almost like an ecto-cooler, but with more caffeine.
Thank you.
danny polishchuck
Okay, yeah.
tim pool
I feel bad.
Look at this kid's face.
Hey, pull this kid's face up again.
That face is exactly how I feel when I hear her words coming out of her mouth while she's not saying anything.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, she answers questions like when you get in trouble by your girl and you're trying to be just the most evasive, just...
She gives the weave.
Trump says he does the weave.
She's doing the real weave.
tim pool
This face is so good.
You know what he's thinking, too.
It's like she's literally not answering any question that I have.
danny polishchuck
He's like, why am I here?
Why did I come here?
tim pool
So this is the state of the Democrats.
And look at this.
Washington Post.
The Kennett's closing argument is a cliché, blah, blah, blah.
Matt Bye says, we've seen plenty of strange firsts in this campaign, but I was still struck at hearing a nominee for president call her opponent a fascist, an actual fascist.
And in the first three minutes of a town hall, I think I would summarize Kamala Harris' closing argument from the night as, you really need to vote for anybody but Donald Trump and I'm anybody, right?
Do we think that argument landed?
This next guy, he says, yeah, she tried to paint Trump as an extreme and dangerous all night.
Besides calling Trump a fascist, Harris repeated the line that Trump allegedly called fallen soldiers suckers and losers.
The Atlantic reported that back in September 2020, blah, blah, blah.
We want to say, Matt, this is almost as if Trump was an incumbent.
We're an incumbent, isn't it?
She's trying very hard to make the whole campaign a referendum on him and his fitness, which might be her best argument, but as you point out, Jim, it's not as if voters haven't factored in that point.
I was on Adam Carolla's show, and maybe he wants to wait for his show to come out, but he did say something great.
He said, Kamala Harris' campaign is basically, who are you going to vote for, the fascist or potato, because I'm the potato.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
danny polishchuck
I mean, it's like the South Park, though.
tim pool
Right.
danny polishchuck
Turd sandwich.
tim pool
Well, I mean, but, you know, Trump, she's just saying he's bad.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
You know what I mean?
It's like Trump is anchovy pizza.
Some people don't like it, but it's still pizza and it's still food and you can eat it.
ian crossland
He's not perfect, man, but if they really wanted to beat Trump, the Democratic Party, they should have had a Democratic convention and let the people select the best candidates.
danny polishchuck
We're past that, I think.
Now she's, I mean, they have 12 days.
She's just like, he's Hitler.
unidentified
Yeah.
I don't know.
danny polishchuck
It's like, I don't care.
Don't vote for me, but then you're voting for Hitler.
You have your options.
phil labonte
Literally what they're doing.
tim pool
It would have been funny.
I call that the Kang and Kodos.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
Remember Treehouse of Horror when they're like, what are you going to do?
It's a two-party system.
You have to vote for one of us.
That's basically what she's going on.
And then it's funny because Trump is just like...
I'll deregulate the energy sector so that prices for transportation come down and your food prices come down with it.
And you're like, okay, that sounds reasonable.
What say you, Kamala?
And she's like, well, I'm a potato, but at least I'm not a fascist.
And you're like, huh.
Well, that may work on some people, but most people I'd say no.
danny polishchuck
No.
No, no, no.
I mean, she has no really good policy stuff.
I mean, she comes out with some new things here or there, but he seems to be winning on that front.
The only thing she really has that could potentially win her this entire thing is just the abortion thing.
phil labonte
She's 100% guarantee or betting on abortion.
And the thing is- It works, though.
Well, it does, but most of the women that are actually really up in arms about it can't have kids anymore.
danny polishchuck
That doesn't matter.
Yes, that is quite funny and ironic.
Yes, but that doesn't matter.
phil labonte
The vast majority of them are like women that have gone through menopause like a decade ago.
danny polishchuck
But they have kids.
phil labonte
And they're just like, man, my granddaughter really needs to be able to kill my great-granddaughter.
ian crossland
One of the things in her weird answer was, you know, if you've raised kids, you know how you make mistakes.
She doesn't have kids.
Why did she bring that up?
tim pool
She has adult stepchildren.
ian crossland
She's like trying to appeal to people with kids.
tim pool
You know what's crazy is that she's not even good at vamping.
danny polishchuck
No.
tim pool
You know, like, if someone was like, hey, buy me time, I'd just start telling a story.
You know, are there any mistakes in your life that you think you've learned from?
Like, oh, let me tell you a story back when I was a kid, right?
So I used to work, and I'd just pick any story of my life and try and just stretch.
But she's going, well, you know, I, from a range of, if you're a parent...
And as vice president, and you know, I like to research, and it's a mistake not to.
danny polishchuck
I mean, I would almost...
tim pool
That was almost a sentence.
ian crossland
She started to almost say some mistakes, and then her ego took over, and she wouldn't allow for the humility, and she's like, I mean, 20 seconds before she – or 10 seconds before she rapped, you could see just her ego was like, don't admit any weakness.
Don't admit weakness.
They won't vote for you.
tim pool
She does go on to say, well, one weakness, and some would say it's a strength, is that I'm surrounded by very smart people.
And I have very smart people on me.
And that's where – let me pull up the Trump war room post where they compare with Michael Scott because I don't do it justice.
I wonder if...
Who owns the office anyway?
Are they going to come after us?
danny polishchuck
Someone powerful.
tim pool
Someone powerful indeed.
danny polishchuck
Mickey Gervais is cool though, but I don't...
tim pool
Alright, here we go.
Here's the clip.
kamala harris
Perhaps a weakness, some would say, but I actually think it's a strength.
unidentified
Well, my weaknesses are actually strengths.
danny polishchuck
Oh!
ian crossland
Yes.
unidentified
Very good.
There you go.
danny polishchuck
Very good.
kamala harris
I really do value having a team of very smart people around me.
unidentified
I work too hard, I care too much, and sometimes I can be too invested in my job.
kamala harris
Perhaps a weakness, some would say, but I actually...
danny polishchuck
Yeah, that face!
That face, too!
ian crossland
What is she doing?
tim pool
I don't know, but this deserves to be screenshot and retweeted.
That face is also a face I would say exemplifies the CNN town hall.
ian crossland
The pain she was feeling, thinking about what she was saying.
tim pool
You know they're making her do it.
Like, when you give answers like that, you're like, I do not want to be here.
ian crossland
She got put there.
They're like, you're the only face we got right now.
danny polishchuck
She's like, Joe Biden last time around, he just got to sit in his basement.
Why can't I sit in my basement?
Why do I have to go do all this stuff?
phil labonte
China, why don't you go ahead and help me out, too?
ian crossland
It's not like she could have said no.
I mean, she's probably like, if I say no to this, it would be the biggest mistake I ever made in my life.
danny polishchuck
I mean, you're not saying no.
ian crossland
Yeah, in those positions, they're like, we need you to run for president.
You know, like, well, all the money's behind me.
The whole thing's already done for me.
Okay.
danny polishchuck
I mean, it just goes to show how bad of a candidate she is where she's running.
She's not smoking Trump.
tim pool
Let's jump to this clip from CNN. I wonder, all of you gentlemen, how do you think CNN thought she did?
I think everybody knows.
danny polishchuck
They weren't too pleased.
tim pool
It's kind of shocking to me right now to say this, but Washington Post criticizing Kamala Harris and CNN criticizing Kamala Harris suggests that she is doing so miserably that they can't even pretend like they have desperately tried to.
Like with Biden.
They pretended until the debate when they couldn't and they were like, but let's play the clip.
unidentified
When she doesn't want to answer a question, her habit is to kind of go to word salad city.
And she did that on a couple of answers.
One was on Israel.
Anderson asked a direct question, would you be stronger on Israel than Trump?
And there was a seven minute answer, but none of it related to the question he was asking.
scott jennings
She doesn't have to be flawless.
But she has to give you something.
I mean, she's like a true double threat.
You know, she's terrible on her feet when she gets unexpected questions.
And simultaneously, she can't even answer the expected questions.
It's nothing, nothing, nothing.
You'd think she'd be prepared to do this by now.
You know, what's a mistake you've made?
Nothing.
What's a weakness you have?
Nothing.
What's the first law you want to pass?
Nothing.
What's a policy difference between you and Joe Biden?
Nothing.
unidentified
Oh!
tim pool
Look, even Axelrod was starting to laugh.
scott jennings
Duck-build platitude.
jake tapper
Focused a lot more on Donald Trump, I think it's fair to say, than she did on many specifics in terms of what she would do as president, but she did go into some of her plans for small businesses.
dana bash
Well, I'll just tell you what I'm hearing from people who I've been talking to, and that is that if her goal was to close the deal, They're not sure she did that.
And, you know, some people have asked, is she being held to a different standard?
Maybe.
But that's maybe the world that she's living in.
And on the question of who she is, people are understanding that a little bit more.
But what she will do, the question about her legislative priorities, name one.
There wasn't one.
van jones
I think that the word salad stuff gets on my nerves.
I think that some of the evasions are not necessary.
But when she's talking about trying to get you a house, I believe her.
unidentified
Kamala Harris participated in a one-person debate last night, and she lost.
And she provided very circular answers.
My colleagues Van Jones and David Axelrod and others noted that she provided word salad answers.
Anderson asked her specifically direct questions and she didn't provide an answer to them.
Anderson asked the best question all night.
Why didn't you do this four years ago?
Why haven't you been doing this?
Ten-minute answer didn't answer the question.
So what she did last night, I don't think helped her cause at all.
I think people were looking for, you know, you heard the one woman, how are you going to make my life better?
That wasn't provided.
Donald Trump bad is not going to get you to the White House.
I hate to break it to her.
tim pool
I absolutely love when he said, Kamala Harris participated in a one-person debate and she lost.
phil labonte
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah, that was a good one.
And you know what I would love so much more?
He says that woman asks, how would you make my life better?
And she doesn't give an answer.
I would respect Kamala so much more if she just went, I'm not.
What do you think goes on in this country?
danny polishchuck
There won't be any mean tweets.
tim pool
Yeah, right.
Look.
Lady, I'm a potato.
I'm going to sit around and do nothing.
Trump's Hitler.
danny polishchuck
I mean, that's honestly the only real benefit I could find of her being president is just the amount that you have to pay attention to politics goes down a bit.
tim pool
No, it'll go with her.
danny polishchuck
You think so?
tim pool
With Kamala, it'll go up ten tenfold.
danny polishchuck
It's more like when Trump was president.
It's just like...
tim pool
That's the media doing that to you.
danny polishchuck
I understand that, but they're going to continue doing that.
tim pool
So the question is, if it were true that voting for Kamala would make the politics go away, how come it's only gotten 10 times worse under Joe Biden?
And the reality is Biden-Harris policies have caused serious political tumult to the point where it's not about Donald Trump anymore.
It's about why food prices are through the roof, why immigrants are sleeping in schools, why people can't afford homes anymore, why Gen Z is living in cardboard boxes while illegal immigrants are getting hotel rooms.
And so now you're glued to the TV with everyone shrieking in your ears because you can't afford to eat.
But illegal immigrants got a PlayStation 5 in his hotel room in New York City.
phil labonte
Danny, and also Not even kidding.
One other thing you need to think about is when people talk about J.D. Vance, they're already saying that he's worse than Trump.
This isn't going to change.
As long as it's a Republican, this is the modus operandi.
This is the norm now.
If you're talking about Republicans, all of them are Hitler, and the Democrats are going to behave as if...
Whatever Republican is in office or whatever Republican is being brought out, they're going to behave as if they're the worst.
danny polishchuck
I mean, that's all they got right now.
phil labonte
So the idea that Trump, this isn't unique to Trump.
Trump is a symptom of what's going on.
Trump is not a cause.
There's so many people out there that think, oh, without Trump, then things will be fine.
Or when Trump's gone, things will be fine.
danny polishchuck
I mean, secretly, CNN's gotta want him to win, as much as they can't say it, for their business.
tim pool
They're looking at their ratings being like, you guys remember the glory days?
You know, back, they were like, hey man, look, six, seven years ago, we were getting a million, three million.
Cable TV was back, baby.
We need Donald Trump.
danny polishchuck
Like, they are all gonna get a boat as long as they can get Donald Trump and a new airborne virus, and they are just printing money.
tim pool
That sounds like a good bit you guys could do, where it's like, Trump wins and then it's like CNN, like it's in a CNN office.
The guy runs in and he goes, Trump has won!
And then it's just one year later and they're all on boats.
danny polishchuck
Get me Wuhan on the phone.
Let's crank this up.
tim pool
Ratings through the roof.
So hey man, I kind of feel like, I'm hearing this rumor, I don't know if it's true, that Kamala denied Joe Rogan's request, like she's refusing to go on the podcast.
I haven't seen any official sourcing on it.
I just saw someone tweeting it, and I'm like, I don't know if that's true.
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
She can't do three hours.
tim pool
Oh, dude.
Joe would kick her out.
I'm sorry.
You look at that town hall, I tell you what.
Joe Rogan would be sitting there, and he'd be like, so what do you think...
You know, cause like the problems we're seeing right now, because I know I got friends who are going to the grocery store and they're talking about whipped cream being six dollars.
And then when she just patters again, well, I'm glad, Joe, you brought up groceries because people need groceries.
And I'll tell you what we got to do.
What we got to do is what we've always had to do, and that is focus on things that we need, like focusing on groceries, which I think is and Joe's going to be like, get out.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, I mean, I don't I'm curious if Trump because Trump's pretty much only done, I believe, An hour, except for I think one podcast he went 90 minutes on.
But I wonder if he's going to go do some real long, like, two and a half hour traditional Roman episode.
tim pool
I imagine the first, I wonder if the first thing Joe asks is going to be like, are there UFOs?
danny polishchuck
That'll come up 100%.
Oh, for sure.
Because I think Theo Vaughn asked him that.
tim pool
Yeah.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, so I think that'll come up.
But I just, she can't really talk.
She can't just chop it up for two hours.
tim pool
It is kind of weird that, you know, I'm just going to say, even Ian can go on a rant about graphene if he needs to buy time.
You know what I mean?
Like, if something comes up, Ian will talk about the crown or graphene.
Like, is there nothing Kamala Harris cares about that she could use for vamp?
ian crossland
I'm honest, so I don't need to hide and think about what I'm going to say next, which helps me flow.
I can go into stream, stay for an hour straight.
I can keep talking.
I'm built to do this.
tim pool
That's it right there.
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
tim pool
As long as you're honest, it doesn't matter what you say.
Because if someone said, what are some of your mistakes?
If Ian didn't have an answer, he'd say, oh, I don't know.
I'd probably have to think about it.
I've never really thought about it.
danny polishchuck
She can't show that weakness.
ian crossland
She'd immediately say, I don't like Joe Biden.
If she was being honest, she'd be like, I didn't like working with the guy.
I can't stand him.
He wasn't fit to be president.
tim pool
It would be so based, and I'd actually respect her a lot more if she was like, you know, Anderson's like, what are some of your weaknesses?
And she goes, well, I'm not really good at this, am I? I have no idea how to answer these questions.
It's not something I've ever been prepared for.
ian crossland
She'd have so many more voters if she had it like that.
danny polishchuck
She could just be normal.
tim pool
Right?
danny polishchuck
That's the thing is, Trump is at least, whether you like him or hate him, he's just, that is who he is.
unidentified
Yeah.
danny polishchuck
She cannot be who she is.
Like, she cannot find that in her.
tim pool
It would have been, and he said personal life too, so she couldn't be like, ugh, I used to put too much salt when I was making my casserole.
And I know it's, you know, but when I would serve it to people, they'd be nice and it would be disgusting.
And I learned a lesson that sometimes people aren't telling you the truth because they don't want to hurt your feelings, but that could lead to bad policy.
Come on, you've never made a bad meal that someone lied to you and said was good?
Sure.
unidentified
Sure.
tim pool
She could have said anything.
She could have said, I used to wear my shoes in the house, and then I realized I was just trailing mud, but that was doo-doo.
And then, you know, if you have kids, come in.
And so these are the mistakes.
She couldn't come up with literally, he said, personal life.
You can make something up.
I don't do my dishes.
danny polishchuck
Don't you remember drinking the beer on Colbert?
She should have said that.
You're like, you don't drink beer.
phil labonte
You don't drink beer ever.
danny polishchuck
You drink wine.
You don't drink beer.
tim pool
As soon as I saw her crack that beer, I was like, she's acting as though she's never had a beer in her life.
danny polishchuck
She probably doesn't drink beer.
phil labonte
It was just as bad as when Pocahontas did it.
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
phil labonte
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
She was like, I'm having a beer.
And then didn't, like, her husband come in and slap her ass on camera?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Elizabeth Warren was in the kitchen being like, I'm gonna have a beer here.
And then her husband walked up and was like, what are you doing?
unidentified
Whack.
phil labonte
Did he really?
danny polishchuck
I'm pretty sure she had, like, 400 containers of ice cream in her fridge.
phil labonte
No, that was Nancy Pelosi.
danny polishchuck
Oh, that was Nancy Pelosi.
tim pool
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Elizabeth Warren...
Let me fact test this.
unidentified
Do you guys remember when she didn't have her teleprompter on and she literally couldn't speak at all?
Yeah, because she's like a bot.
phil labonte
She's just like a program.
danny polishchuck
I would never recommend this to anybody, but she needs to take some improv classes.
unidentified
Kamala.
danny polishchuck
Like, Kamala.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
danny polishchuck
Like, I would, if anybody ever is, like, a normal person, should I do improv?
I'm like, absolutely not.
Please do not do that.
phil labonte
Really?
danny polishchuck
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But for her, she could use some...
She needs to, like, yes and.
phil labonte
I feel like that's telling someone not to practice.
I'm not a comedian.
I don't know.
I'm not an actor.
I don't know.
That's why I'm deferring to you.
danny polishchuck
The world does not need any more improvisers is what I'm getting at.
Okay?
We don't need any more.
phil labonte
We're full.
I backed that.
danny polishchuck
Right?
But she could use some classes.
ian crossland
Yeah, man.
She needs to get loose.
danny polishchuck
I want Michael Scott.
Michael Scott took improv classes, didn't he?
Remember with the gun?
ian crossland
The character, Michael Scott.
danny polishchuck
Michael Scott in the office, remember?
Because they keep comparing it to him.
And he had the thing, remember, where he always had a gun?
ian crossland
Where he was wearing the do-rag for a while?
danny polishchuck
No, I don't know.
He would improv, and then he would always have a gun, and he goes, he's got a gun.
tim pool
I'm just going to show the video, and then you can decide for yourself, because every story about this has been scrubbed.
But there's still the video of it.
And so here you go.
unidentified
...who's joining this video.
dana bash
It's great to hear from you.
unidentified
Hold on a sec.
I'm going to get me, um, a beer.
danny polishchuck
You don't talk like that.
You don't say, I'm going to get me a beer.
tim pool
I'm going to get me a beer.
And she could have grabbed it before going live.
unidentified
Hey, my husband Bruce is now in here.
dana bash
Um, you want a beer?
unidentified
No, I'll pass on a beer for now.
You sure?
tim pool
Yes.
unidentified
So, this is my sweetie.
Hello.
Yeah, you did.
tim pool
You saw that, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
danny polishchuck
That's like a normal interaction.
unidentified
It is.
tim pool
When he slapped her ass.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
That was like the controversy, but it's like, it's a husband and wife.
Yeah.
It's like, Denny's like, it's totally fine.
unidentified
It's fine.
tim pool
But it was a controversy.
danny polishchuck
Show that you're a person.
phil labonte
It does.
tim pool
I suppose, indeed.
But she is certainly not.
She was acting very robotic, and she, I'm gonna get me a beer.
ian crossland
Yes.
tim pool
And then she, would you like a beer?
danny polishchuck
Engage, beer sequence.
phil labonte
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
Also, shout out to Colin Rugg for that clip.
unidentified
She doesn't want to answer it.
tim pool
This is a great one.
On CNN, breaking it down.
Word salad.
ian crossland
Like the CNN, everybody that works there is like, look, we're taking care of ourselves first on this one.
They served as the lapdog for the...
danny polishchuck
Didn't you see what they did to Don Lemon and Chris Cuomo?
tim pool
Look at this.
What does that say?
What does it say, Ian?
Harris at.2 nationally.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is a statistical tie.
.2 is meaningless.
danny polishchuck
How did she make up three points in a week?
In the last week?
tim pool
No, no, she's lost.
Trump's been skyrocketing.
Nationally.
So take a look at this.
Morning Consult, as of the 18th to the 20th, had Harris up four.
danny polishchuck
Oh, gotcha.
tim pool
Rasmussen has Trump up three.
danny polishchuck
Oh, that's for all of them.
tim pool
Rasmussen is more right-leaning than many believe.
So let's go look at Forbes, Harris X, not right-leaning.
They say from the 20th to the 21st, after the Morning Consult, Trump is up two.
Then you've got CNBC, which was published later, but tracked before the 20th, Trump up two.
And now you have the Wall Street Journal showing Trump is up three.
Right now, it is a statistical tie.
And this time in 2020, Biden was up 8.1.
What did Biden end up winning by?
Like five or something?
unidentified
Three or something?
I don't know.
tim pool
Was it three?
So I got to say right now, the battlegrounds, Donald Trump is winning all of them.
Every single one in aggregate.
I don't know if the polls matter all that much to be completely honest, but let me just say, if they're indicative of anything, the narrative right now is that Kamala Harris should not be able to win.
phil labonte
It would be nice.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, I wouldn't bet on any of that.
We'll see.
tim pool
You think there's a chance for old Kamala?
danny polishchuck
Do I think there's a chance?
Oh, I definitely think there's a chance.
I mean, if I had to pick, I would pick Trump, but I would not be surprised.
And I'm not even going to...
ian crossland
Yeah.
Not even going to talk about electronic voting machines putting tallies in the background without us being able to inspect the code.
danny polishchuck
No.
tim pool
What do you think happens with polls showing Trump is winning across the board and the betting market showing he's winning and then some weird thing happens?
So look, you go back to 2020 and they were all saying, oh, Trump won, it was rigged and all that stuff.
But Biden still had the polls.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
And then everyone saw the mail-in ballots come in after Election Day giving Biden the win.
It's kind of crazy.
Trump wins on Election Day.
I believe he even declared victory and said, that's it.
Like, look, Election Day is over.
You can check what's been counted.
I've won.
And then Biden votes popped up at the last minute a day or two later.
Like, oh, actually, these ballots weren't counted yet.
So Republicans are like, how are you counting ballots after Election Day?
But Democrats are like, you know what?
We win.
There's still some plausible deniability in that Biden was up eight points in the polls.
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
tim pool
Now, Kamala is statistically tied with Trump and losing the battlegrounds.
danny polishchuck
And the betting markets.
tim pool
And if she ends up winning with some weird shenanigans, people are going to be like, nah, not this time.
ian crossland
Yeah, they need to get the votes in and tallied as soon as possible, day of.
I mean, honestly, if you can do that, day of.
But like...
I don't think that the electronic voting machine network is tight enough to calculate in one afternoon how many votes they need to flip a vote in one way or the other.
I don't think it's there yet.
I'm not sure, but it doesn't seem like it.
I think that's why they would need days.
danny polishchuck
I understand.
Every four years they have this, like Chris was saying, Maricopa County or whatever in Arizona, they're saying it's going to take them...
tim pool
Thirteen days.
ian crossland
What is that all about?
danny polishchuck
They've had four years to figure this out, and they had four years since the last one.
tim pool
No, they took four years, they figured it out, and they figured the best way to secure the results they want is to give themselves two weeks after election day to decide who won.
danny polishchuck
That's crazy!
ian crossland
Yeah, and it's a constitutional crisis.
Why is, where's the legislature?
danny polishchuck
Like, what is the actual, like, if you put Elon Musk in charge of this, what would he do to be like, do you hire more people?
ian crossland
Is that all it is?
You open source the code and let the community fix the system.
danny polishchuck
Do you just need more people working at the polls?
tim pool
I think it's simple.
The Constitution says we have one election day, and any ballot after midnight is on the garbage sheet.
phil labonte
If you do mail-in ballots, you do them beforehand.
Anything that comes in after election day at midnight is not counted.
You missed your opportunity.
They should all be paper ballots.
There shouldn't be any computerization of it at all because paper ballots can be counted and they're physical things.
I know you talk about opening the code and stuff, but as long as there is the ability to change it Even after the fact or whatever in a computer.
If you do that, it can be changed.
Regular.
Write them in.
Not the whole punching things like the Chads that they had in 2000 with George Bush.
Regular paper ballots.
You should have to have an ID. It would be best if there was no absentee voting at all.
It's like get to the poll on the day that it's supposed to be there.
Sure, make it a federal holiday so people can have the day off.
danny polishchuck
I don't have any problem.
phil labonte
That would be a good idea.
danny polishchuck
They don't want to do that.
phil labonte
No, they don't.
Well, they don't want IDs either.
85% of the American population think that you should have to show an ID to vote.
danny polishchuck
Seems reasonable.
phil labonte
85%.
And the government will never do it because the Democrats will never be on board because the Democrats know that if you have to show an ID, then they won't be able to get people that are not citizens to vote.
That is God's only reason.
danny polishchuck
I mean, that's how I'm voting.
ian crossland
It's so busted.
danny polishchuck
That's how I'm voting.
That's a joke, guys.
That's a joke.
ian crossland
I don't hate paper ballots, and I think we should still use them as backup to a machine if we're going to use the machine, but it relies on you handing them off to someone that's going to hand them off to someone, and you've got to trust a chain of humans, which can be easily corrupted and toss them aside easily.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, but you don't know which...
The thing is, they don't know who they're throwing out, right?
You're just throwing out sealed envelopes.
You don't know if those are the votes you want to throw out.
phil labonte
Look, if you're talking about a human point of failure, whoever writes the code is going to be able to go...
It will be a point of failure.
Again, you continue to say, free up the code, but most people can't read code.
ian crossland
Oh, but there's enough people that could inspect the code to see if it's able to flip votes.
The machine shouldn't be able to flip the votes.
phil labonte
I mean, why not?
ian crossland
Because that's not what they're built to do.
They're built to give you the vote that they received.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, I mean, obviously there could be maybe a blockchain solution way down the line.
phil labonte
Maybe there's some kind of blockchain solution.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, can you, for the votes, if they're postmarked, is that how it works?
They just have to be postmarked by midnight?
phil labonte
Well, I think that it should be...
danny polishchuck
Is that the current rule, though?
phil labonte
I don't know for sure.
danny polishchuck
You can have it postmarked after November 5th and still can't?
phil labonte
I think Tim had tweeted one that was like they had up to the 12th to get it in or something like that.
But it shouldn't be.
It should just be, look, go there the day of.
And if you can't go there the day of, you don't get to vote.
danny polishchuck
I mean, if anything, just do that for all the people who are watching who are like, I want to know who's going to win.
phil labonte
Yeah.
It shouldn't be that hard.
It should not be this complex.
It should be show up, show your ID, and vote.
And if you can't, too bad.
It's not a situation where voting is not such a...
As much as they want, the government tries to make it sound like this sacred, important thing that everybody's...
If you don't get to vote, it's some massive violation of your civil liberties.
That's not true at all.
unidentified
Should it be a holiday then?
danny polishchuck
It should be.
phil labonte
I don't have a problem with that.
Make it a holiday.
That's fine.
Make it a nationwide federal holiday.
Everybody gets the day off.
Everything's closed.
You don't get to go to...
danny polishchuck
Maybe get rid of Columbus Day and swap it with...
phil labonte
The Italians aren't going to like that.
They already got rid of Columbus Day with the whole indigenous people.
But make it a holiday and be like, that's it.
One day, go vote.
ian crossland
I love that you mentioned blockchain.
danny polishchuck
Oh, did you?
ian crossland
You could punch the ballot, put it in the machine which reads it, puts it on a blockchain, puts it on like six or nine different blockchains, so if someone does get a hold of one of those, they're not going to get a hold of the other eight.
And then there you go.
You can reference it online with a barcode that no one else has access to.
danny polishchuck
There's for sure a way that it could be done, obviously.
tim pool
What's the argument against public ballots?
ian crossland
Well, you don't want to know.
Lynchings.
People can go find people that voted the way they didn't like and then attack them.
Yeah, I mean, that's the whole...
danny polishchuck
People don't want to know.
tim pool
Yeah, but I don't know if that's a strong enough argument.
ian crossland
I think it happened so much in the past that they realized...
danny polishchuck
Yeah, I don't know if you could have...
Like, you're saying public, like, there's a ledger of everybody who voted.
I mean, there's so many people who...
tim pool
That would get rid of fraud.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, yeah, but, well, maybe.
tim pool
Because then anybody could pull up the ledger and be like, these people are dead.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, for the dead part, for sure, but there's a lot of people who say one thing and vote differently.
tim pool
And then you could check the ledger and be like, I did not vote for that person.
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
ian crossland
You should be able to verify your own for sure on a ledger, but I think it would be like a secret, like a code that you have on your phone that you could scan.
No one else had access to verify your...
It's just, it's risky to let other...
tim pool
The argument is that if it's public, people will vote based on what they think, and people would not vote Trump because they'd be scared for people to see them voting Trump.
danny polishchuck
Absolutely.
Yeah, yeah, that would be...
phil labonte
I think, again, I don't mind, you know, it should be, you should be, the secret ballots is fine with me, but one day, get in there, show ID, keep it, I think it should be paper ballots, no computers, no nothing, that's it.
And you seal it up, you put it in, you don't, I don't even think you should put it into, like, at least where I go and vote, you take the actual ballot and you drop it in a box.
You should have an envelope, put it in the envelope, seal the envelope.
danny polishchuck
That probably would make everything take so much longer, though, if they have to open envelopes.
phil labonte
I don't think it would take that much longer.
danny polishchuck
What's the actual case for it?
There's 350 million people and it just...
phil labonte
Yeah, there's 350 million people.
We've only managed to get a third of America to vote.
Yeah, so that's not even half the country.
And it's also split up in a bunch of different places.
So the people that collect the votes, maybe there's 10,000 votes, right?
So you get...
danny polishchuck
Do we need more of those people?
Like the people who work at the...
phil labonte
Maybe.
I mean, in cities, maybe.
In my town, you don't have to.
There's only 4,000 of us, and it's probably only 2,000 that actually vote.
ian crossland
The problem is if we're putting them in envelopes, sealed, and passing them off, someone's going to eventually have to open that envelope and look at it and decide whether or not to scan that thing.
Or, if you say no computers, to write it down, what it says on it, and there's a chain of vulnerability.
And there's supposed to have people looking over their shoulders, but if those people are colluding...
phil labonte
That's what I... Listen, in my town, it's all paper ballots and stuff now.
There's a boatload of places that are paper ballots.
All the stuff with Dominion is because you have electronic voting.
All the lawsuits, all that garbage.
It's all garbage.
ian crossland
A lot of it's because it's proprietary.
The way they've set up Dominion is to have a proprietary system you can't access.
phil labonte
You can't reference your own vote.
Companies are going to want it to be proprietary.
They're not going to want to just give it away.
ian crossland
And public service shouldn't be proprietary.
danny polishchuck
What's your business if it's not proprietary?
ian crossland
We shouldn't have a private business doing our public code.
phil labonte
It's much more simple if you just do it.
danny polishchuck
Private business is running prisons.
phil labonte
It's much more simple if you do it in private prisons.
It's much more simple if you just do it with a paper ballot.
ian crossland
You can't verify your vote.
phil labonte
What do you mean you can't verify your vote?
ian crossland
If you send it off and it's like, I hope it counts.
danny polishchuck
There's a level of trust in this system.
phil labonte
Nobody's ever been able to verify their vote in all of history.
You're talking about changing.
You want to make a whole new process so that people can look and verify that their vote got counted.
And that also means that it's not going to be private.
You're going to have to give your social security number on your ballot so you can look up the ballot and the votes.
unidentified
Ian, what's your social security number?
ian crossland
You go to the website, you type in, you make an account, you put in all your data, and it would give a bar or a thing on the screen you could scan.
phil labonte
If they can't have people, if they don't want to have people to have ID, if the argument against ID is it's too complicated, you think you're going to go and make a profile?
danny polishchuck
Yeah, that's the thing.
The more friction you put, the less likely.
ian crossland
If you want to verify your vote, you can go make a profile.
phil labonte
That's still making friction.
That's still making things that are unnecessary.
You don't need any of that.
ian crossland
You can still go vote, normal, punching the thing and handing it in, but if then you want to go verify your vote, you have a way to do it on a blockchain.
phil labonte
I disagree with you.
I'm not going to argue with you anymore.
tim pool
Let's jump to the story from the New York Post.
Democrat Senate campaign org fires employee accused of tampering with Montana ballot box.
It's not just that.
We've got this story from Channel 21 KTV. It's AP reporting.
Twelve Colorado mail-in ballots were stolen and filled out.
Three were counted.
unidentified
And then, wasn't there another one that I had pulled up?
tim pool
There was a mailbox set fire to in Arizona that torched 20 ballots.
So, you know, we're getting off to a good start here.
There's a video of a Democrat staffer tampering with this box in some way.
Now, it's funny because they say allegedly tampering.
Why are you saying allegedly?
He's seen putting his hands on it and rustling the box around.
He's trying to do something.
He's literally tampering with a ballot box.
We don't know that he succeeded in doing anything or whatever it is he was doing, but he was certainly tampering with it.
They fired him and they said he was simply trying to see if it was secure.
danny polishchuck
If it was secure, the one has nothing to do with the fact that Trump is literally Hitler.
unidentified
Sure.
phil labonte
Yeah, right?
ian crossland
I just want to see if your mail is secure in your mailbox.
tim pool
The reason why they say Trump is Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini is not because they want violence.
I mean, that may be a component, but it's because they want a standalone complex.
They want 10,000 Democrats acting of their own volition to cheat so that they can win.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
When it comes to counting the ballots, it takes only maybe a few hundred people even, counting votes, to go, does that say Trump?
It looks like Trump.
Garbage.
Kamala.
Close enough, Kamala.
And what's this one?
Trimp?
I don't know what that is.
Kaimalo.
I know, that's one for Kamala.
danny polishchuck
That's like the whole Hangouts thing, right?
ian crossland
Yeah, you gotta remove emotions from it.
You said trust.
There's a certain level of trust, but we've developed systems called trustless systems.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, I mean, the Bitcoin ledger, obviously, there must be some way to change over to that one day.
unidentified
They need to have some 90-year-old who wants to vote.
tim pool
They need three individuals per vote to count.
danny polishchuck
Like Jimmy Carter.
Jimmy Carter's not going to vote on the blockchain.
tim pool
They need three individuals per vote.
Counted.
So all counting should be done by hand, all votes done by paper, and it should be a Trump voter, a Kamala voter, and an independent, and all three of them go through each one and make a determination as to who got the vote.
ian crossland
And then if there's a discrepancy, they send it off.
tim pool
Espelate to a separate, yep.
ian crossland
But what do you think about an open source blockchain?
tim pool
I think it has nothing to do with what we're seeing in destruction of tampering with ballot boxes and torching ballots.
ian crossland
Well, you wouldn't have paper to worry about.
tim pool
Sure.
And so the issue we're dealing with right now and the concerns that we have are pertaining to the fact that already we are seeing ballots destroyed and tampered with.
And what will that mean for Election Day?
ian crossland
That paper ballots are vulnerable.
tim pool
What do you think, Phil?
phil labonte
I think the paper ballots are the way to go.
tim pool
What do you think happens on election day if right now we're already seeing ballots get destroyed?
danny polishchuck
I mean, you can't for 150 million votes.
There's gonna be some non-zero level of malarkey.
tim pool
Do you think this stuff always happens?
danny polishchuck
Yes.
tim pool
And we never pay attention?
danny polishchuck
Absolutely.
Every time ever.
tim pool
So why don't we see all these stories leading up to every other election then?
danny polishchuck
Well, because up until 12 years ago, there was no social media, so if you go to CNN... Well, I guess maybe they would have, you know...
tim pool
And this is a Democrat office firing a guy, and it's an official report.
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
tim pool
This is high-level political stuff.
danny polishchuck
I'm sure you could have found these things, but now it's just so much more magnified.
ian crossland
There's cameras.
Everyone's got a camera in their pockets.
danny polishchuck
Cameras everywhere.
Exactly.
You know, there's cameras everywhere.
Everybody's got a camera.
I'm sure this stuff has happened.
ian crossland
I think so, too.
I think regimes have been controlling narratives.
tim pool
Then the question is, if it's in the mind of people, will anyone trust the results with a single story about ballot destruction?
phil labonte
I don't think anyone's going to trust the results either way.
danny polishchuck
Literally?
No, no, no.
tim pool
Even if Kamala trusts his hands and both wave and say, we agree, everything's good.
phil labonte
In 2016, there was the Trump-Russia stuff.
In 2020, there was the whole Trump said that he won and stuff.
There's no way that...
I think that's the idea of people actually accepting the vote as honest.
danny polishchuck
The only people who are going to accept the vote are the people who voted for Chase Oliver or Jill Stein.
They know those people are losing regardless.
But everybody who is a Democrat or Republican voter will not accept the results.
ian crossland
This is what I'm saying.
It sounds like you're saying, no one's going to trust it, but let's just do it anyway.
phil labonte
No one's going to trust it, regardless of how we do it.
ian crossland
What if you secured it digitally?
danny polishchuck
We're not doing that this year.
phil labonte
No one's going to trust it because there's already been...
They're going to say, oh, well, look, there was the whole stuff with Dominion.
Computers can be hacked.
No one's going to trust it because they're not going to trust it.
Not because the system is uniquely insecure.
It's just that people won't trust.
tim pool
Do you then agree with Rudyard?
phil labonte
That there's going to be violence?
tim pool
1,000 dead by April?
phil labonte
I don't know about that, but I mean, I articulated my position last night, and I do think that we're in for shenanigans.
tim pool
I don't see how...
It's funny, because his polymarket odds are like 2 to 1 Trump, and I'm like, have they considered the possibility that there's no inauguration?
danny polishchuck
Well, then you get your money back.
I think that's neither a yes nor a no.
tim pool
You get your money back for those things?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
danny polishchuck
It has to be resolved.
If you ever bet on Polymarket, it's like you have to...
It says it's resolved a yes if he's elected.
tim pool
It says if the AP, Fox, and I think NBC call the winner, then it resolves for the winner.
danny polishchuck
Oh, okay.
So it doesn't have to be...
tim pool
And if it doesn't, it gets called by the press on Inauguration Day.
Whoever is inaugurated will be the resolution.
But I'm like, and what happens if there's no inauguration?
What happens if there's two?
danny polishchuck
There's two inaugurations?
Two separate inaugurations?
Where are they going to happen?
How does that work?
tim pool
What do you mean?
A group of people get together and hold up the Bible and then Kamala and Trump both swear on it in different places.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
That'll be fun.
Trump and other Republicans say this is ridiculous.
We know for a fact he won.
Democrats say, nope, we've certified Kamala to win.
Doesn't matter.
We are the House and we certify.
Thank you and have a nice day.
She's also the vice president.
She'll be the one counting the votes.
So when Jamie Raskin, who already said they intend to do this, literally in February, he said they will not certify Donald Trump.
If he wins, I'm telling you, you said this literally at a bookstore conference.
He was a roundtable or whatever panel.
And he said, if Trump wins, we will have civil war conditions.
We will not certify the vote.
We will say, Donald Trump, you are ineligible under the 14th Amendment.
What happens then when?
There's no resolution.
The Supreme Court gets petitioned by everybody, and then come January 20th, the White House or the Capitol grounds, they're closed.
We're not doing anything.
So Kamala goes to one building, Trump goes to the other, and they both claim to have an inauguration.
danny polishchuck
That's a bit above my pay grade.
Yeah.
tim pool
I'm saying, not for you, I'm saying, what does Polymarket do?
danny polishchuck
Oh, what does Polymarket do?
tim pool
Trump wins because the press is saying he has the most votes, but even though they didn't say he won?
danny polishchuck
Well, I guess, I don't know, yeah, maybe.
unidentified
So then who's the, and there's just two official presidents?
danny polishchuck
Well, that's called a crappy TV show.
tim pool
It was a civil war in the United States that had two presidents.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, I guess.
tim pool
But they both operated.
Rudyard Lynch, what if Alt-Hist made the prediction that there would be a Patriots capital in Austin and a Peoples in D.C.? And I disagreed with him.
I said, well, that doesn't make sense because you said he thinks Trump is going to win.
If Trump wins and Democrats revolt, Democrats ain't going to Austin.
Republicans would be.
danny polishchuck
Of course.
tim pool
So Republicans would have D.C. Democrats would go to New York.
New York is a seat of power for the Democrats.
And then they would have their Congress and they'd say...
danny polishchuck
Well, Trump Tower.
tim pool
Well, they'd seize Trump Tower for sure.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, they'd seize Trump Tower and that would be the new Congress.
tim pool
Oh, that's a good point.
danny polishchuck
Congress building.
tim pool
Congress, Democrat members would go there and say, Trump is ineligible and we are not going to be party to a corrupt fascist takeover of government.
This is a coup, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
danny polishchuck
Honestly, they're not competent enough to pull something like that off, I don't think.
tim pool
I disagree.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You gotta read Sun Tzu.
danny polishchuck
All right, we'll see.
tim pool
Don't underestimate your opponents.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, we'll see, I guess.
phil labonte
It's depressing.
danny polishchuck
I don't know.
I mean, that scenario seems closer to like a movie, but I could definitely see some violence.
Absolutely.
Mostly coming from the left if Trump wins.
tim pool
Rudyard may just be a guy.
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
tim pool
Some guy on the internet, huh?
danny polishchuck
I mean, we're all just guys on the internet, aren't we?
tim pool
Yeah.
And so when he says he has a standing bet, $1,000 if 1,000 people die by April, I'm like, that's a pretty extreme claim to make.
I mean, that's months away.
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
tim pool
That's half a year.
danny polishchuck
It's going to be like COVID all over again, where you're like, well, how did they die?
Did they die of some war?
tim pool
No, he's saying specifically if domestic political violence results in death.
Like, it's a clear-cut bet.
He said it's going to be like, you go to work every day, you watch the TV, but bombs will be going off in Chicago.
ian crossland
Did he ever get in a fistfight?
Because he was talking like a kid behind a computer screen.
tim pool
What does that have to do with...
phil labonte
Like, does he really think that he's looking for it?
tim pool
Yeah, what do you mean?
He was saying he read about the history of Chinese dynasties, the French Revolution, the Spanish Civil War, and the Russian Revolution, and based on those things that he's read, here's his predictions.
And he may just be some guy who read some stuff and is wrong, that's sure.
danny polishchuck
I mean, this stuff has happened over and over again throughout history.
We're living in a pretty relatively calm time.
tim pool
That's the crazy thing, is that we had a golden age for 30 years.
Longer.
You know, 30, 35 years.
Well, it's coming to a close.
ian crossland
Depends on what we do next, man.
tim pool
It's the fourth turning.
It's definitely coming to a close.
ian crossland
You see, like, the end of the 1700s, the way they invented, developed electricity, and it popped off.
Golden age.
Like, batteries, electricity, chemistry.
And if we do some new technological breakthrough, we could have space variants.
danny polishchuck
Like, AI songs?
tim pool
I don't know how that changes the political conflict.
unidentified
AI is huge.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, I mean, again, people on the left are not, like, Democrats, if Trump wins, are not going to take it well.
Especially because, like, there was a period a month or so ago when it was looking like Kamala Harris is just running away with it.
Remember that?
Where, like, the odds shifted and she went ahead?
unidentified
Yeah.
danny polishchuck
And they were getting pretty jubilant.
I just don't think it's going to be the ultimate letdown for them.
tim pool
I'm saying, listen, ladies and gentlemen, you have to prepare.
And this is for you, Danny.
You have to prepare.
danny polishchuck
Go back to Canada.
tim pool
You cannot.
No, you can't do that.
danny polishchuck
No, I'm not.
tim pool
You cannot sit around just waiting, wishing for the best.
You've got to go out.
You've got to buy backup batteries.
Because when Trump wins, these Democrats are going to be on the ground wailing like banshees.
And you need to film it and post it to actually get to watch.
ian crossland
Well, you should get a backup battery.
Jackery is a good one.
I have a Jackery battery.
When the power went out of my house, I don't think there's that graphene in mine, but my power went out.
tim pool
I got a graphene battery.
Ian's not...
ian crossland
I think I have a graphene battery.
tim pool
The one I got you.
ian crossland
Yeah, that little guy.
danny polishchuck
Starlink.
ian crossland
But I've got a big Jackery ACDC power.
It's great.
tim pool
Graphene backup batteries.
You know those portable batteries?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
The graphene one can be charged up in 10 minutes.
unidentified
Wow.
ian crossland
Check it out.
unidentified
Because...
tim pool
The way it works is it's a lithium-ion battery with, I guess they say they've got a graphene sheet running through it, which charges it equally and evenly all at once.
So the energy goes straight into it, charges it.
So you've got two full cell phone charges in 10 minutes.
ian crossland
There's a new gallium nitride is the new superconductor they're using.
I make tiny, look at this, 10,000 milliamp hour battery.
tim pool
What, really?
ian crossland
It's this thing, dude.
It has plugs in it.
tim pool
10,000.
ian crossland
10,000.
Dude, I can charge my phone two and a half times, this little guy.
unidentified
Wow.
ian crossland
It's at 84% now.
I've been charging it for about 20, 30 minutes.
tim pool
Well, look, we all saw the video of the woman dropping to her knees and screaming no in 2016.
I don't know.
danny polishchuck
I think about that a lot.
tim pool
No, I think about what scares me the most is that it's going to be November 5th, and Democrats across this country are going to be dropping to their knees and screaming no, and Republicans will have dead phones.
Their phones are going to be dead, and they're going to be like, I can't get out.
I've got one No, I couldn't film it.
And then what am I going to do?
I'm on X, and I just see, what, one picture?
danny polishchuck
Assuming the Internet's up everywhere.
phil labonte
Unacceptable.
tim pool
I got Starlink.
ian crossland
You can use your cell phone as a mobile network and then put your laptop through that network.
You can charge your Jackery battery through your car if you need to.
If you really run out for like a day, you've got your car to charge your battery, which can charge your laptop and your phone.
tim pool
Let's jump into the story.
danny polishchuck
Just to cut you off, but do you think she comes to the, if he gets, like if he wins, do you think she comes to his inauguration?
tim pool
Oh, I have no idea.
danny polishchuck
That woman?
tim pool
Let's read the story.
We've got the Washington Examiner.
Fear of election violence and civil war surge.
Now, that is called burying the lead, my friends, because here's the better story.
The nation's largest network of survival camps is urging its members to spend Election Day inside its guarded fences due to growing concerns about political violence and civil war.
Fortitude Ranch, which has several established and planned off the grid prepper resorts, issued its call after pollsters reporting surging fears of violence from the losing side in next month's election.
Quote, Fortitude Ranch staff does not consider the likelihood of immediate post-election violence or civil war to be high, but there is a strong likelihood of some violence by the 50% or more of the population that will be very angry with the November 5th results, said the organization on its Collapse Survivor app.
Okay, well, there's two ways to look at it.
Here's a question for you.
Is Fortitude Ranch being completely straightforward and, you know, there may be some protests and you might want to, if you're in a high-risk area, be at this camp where you can chill out and they're really nice places.
Or are they trying to avoid alarming people and sparking panic by saying, if you are in a high-risk area, the chance of danger, violence, death is extremely high.
You need to get out now, which could cause a panic.
ian crossland
Probably the second.
tim pool
You think they're avoiding a panic?
ian crossland
Yeah, they probably genuinely believe it.
If there's ever been a risk to serious confrontational political violence in the last 30 years in the United States, it's going to be on November 5th, or right around that time, because of the hot media.
danny polishchuck
Where are they located?
tim pool
All over the country.
danny polishchuck
Because I assume the type of person who goes to one of these is heavily armed.
tim pool
Yep.
danny polishchuck
Right?
tim pool
Let me tell you about Fortitude Ranch, okay?
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
They're basically man resorts.
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
tim pool
Okay, so they say survival community, but I tell you what it really is.
They've got bunkers.
Yeah.
They've got emergency food.
But when you go there, it's basically like a dude's retreat where you've got, like, you're chopping wood, you're shooting guns, you're watching movies in a log cabin.
danny polishchuck
Oh, that sounds fun.
tim pool
Yeah, it's super fun.
It's like a timeshare for dudes.
It's like a spa for dudes.
danny polishchuck
Like, are they just trying to sell more timeshares?
unidentified
They have one.
tim pool
You're LARPing that you're a commando in the end of the world.
But the reality is that after the world does end, you definitely want to be there eventually.
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
phil labonte
So it's your cool vacation spot to go and do man stuff, and in the unlikely event that the world actually does end, you have a place to go should you need it.
ian crossland
Man, RFK said a vote for Kamala is a vote for nuclear war.
Did you see that?
phil labonte
Wow.
ian crossland
Today, I think he said that?
That was...
I would think of that as rhetoric, but I mean, he's...
tim pool
That's why I wonder if Fortitude is really thinking, like, nothing's going to happen, but come hang out, you know?
ian crossland
They're really very good about contingencies, and I think they do believe that if there is something possible that might happen, it's going to happen early after the election, so be here for that.
danny polishchuck
I agree with that.
Yeah, it probably will happen right away.
Again, they're probably just trying to sell.
phil labonte
A lot of people talk about fighting the government or whatever.
That's not what is going to happen, or at least not what I imagine is going to happen.
I think that there's going to be a lot of people that are going to be angry with other people.
As much as Donald Trump is the big boogeyman, you see the way that the leftists and stuff treat other Americans.
The woman that went up to that person's...
They caught her on the ring camera.
She went up to the house and she literally knocked on the door and she was wigging out because this woman was a Trump voter and stuff.
I imagine, and you know, was the guy that got shot in Seattle?
tim pool
Aaron Danielson?
phil labonte
Yeah, Aaron Danielson.
tim pool
Was that Seattle or was that Portland?
phil labonte
Well, the Pacific Northwest.
There you go.
But even still, he was shot specifically because he was a Trump voter.
I imagine those things would be more of a problem for your average American than having to fight the government, because nobody's really going to want to fight the government.
danny polishchuck
No, no.
tim pool
I do want to add this as a personal disclosure.
I have as small as a minority stake as possible in Fortitude, like single digit.
But I don't...
Communicate with them.
I don't know much about what they're doing or why they're doing it.
I just want to make sure that's clear.
ian crossland
Clarify, too.
Aaron Danielson was in Portland, yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Yeah, we met the Fortitude guys.
tim pool
We've had the CEO on the show and the CEO... When they came on, I basically wrote a check like, hey, if something happens, can I bring my family?
And they're like...
ian crossland
Great guys.
Super honest guys.
And I have ex-military.
danny polishchuck
It sounds like a fun time.
ian crossland
The CEO, I think he's ex-military, was he?
tim pool
Yeah, they're ex-intelligence, military and stuff like that.
ian crossland
So...
tim pool
But so, that's why I'm saying, like, it's more of a, they call it off-the-grid prepper resorts.
That's exactly how I describe it.
phil labonte
Resorts.
tim pool
You, like, hang out and there's chickens.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And you just, you LARP as being a man in the wilderness.
danny polishchuck
You're not, like, are you eating, all the food you're eating is, like, reconstituted with water, like, rations style?
tim pool
No, you're eating cheeseburgers and normal food.
danny polishchuck
Oh, okay, so this just sounds like a fun man retreat.
tim pool
Yeah, it's like a man retreat.
But like I said, like, if the world is about to end, you definitely want to be there.
So that's why I asked the question, like, are they trying to downplay this?
Because they don't want everyone jumping in their cars and speeding, and then everything fills up, and then they've got people banging on the door.
ian crossland
Exactly, yeah.
They're like, if it's going to happen, just on off chance, be here before it happens.
tim pool
Because they did this last time around.
That's how we ended up meeting them, actually.
Because I think in 2020, they issued a call saying, if you're a member, it's time to come to the bunkers.
unidentified
Yeah.
danny polishchuck
They go, oh, woo!
tim pool
It's more boring that you have an app, and it goes, brrm.
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
tim pool
And then it's like, close the walls!
unidentified
And he's like, this giant 9,000th of an eye wall.
danny polishchuck
I mean, you just don't want to be anywhere densely populated and you're fine.
If you're in...
Like, I still even find it hard to see...
tim pool
But isn't it funny that they destroy their own cities?
danny polishchuck
What's that?
tim pool
They destroy their own cities?
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
I mean, like, New York City, like, Williamsburg...
I remember, so specifically, when Joe Biden, when they called it for Biden in 2020, I was sleeping.
It was like 11 a.m.
And I was sleeping, and literally, I woke up.
To cheering in the streets, right?
And I didn't know what was going on.
I was kind of confused.
I just hear all this cheering.
I'm like, oh, Biden won.
And I walked outside.
It looked like, I remember when I lived in Toronto, the Toronto Raptors won the NBA Finals.
That's what it looked like.
The streets were just full of jubilant people.
This will be the opposite.
This will be the opposite of that.
unidentified
People...
tim pool
Who wants to live in New York?
It's so wild.
danny polishchuck
I don't do it by choice.
tim pool
Then why do you do it?
danny polishchuck
Because comedy's good there.
tim pool
You live in Jersey.
danny polishchuck
I do.
Well, I actually do live in Jersey.
unidentified
Aha!
tim pool
We got him.
Exposed.
danny polishchuck
And I'm moving back to New York.
ian crossland
Yeah, I know that joy of living close to the action.
I like to spend time in Miami for that reason, but it's nice to be in the woods.
tim pool
Nah, bro, I tell you, you gotta choose to comedy.
You gotta go to images over on 340.
unidentified
Every Saturday, there's like two or three people hanging out.
danny polishchuck
Bombard them with a set?
tim pool
You laughing at us rural folk out here?
What are you doing, huh?
danny polishchuck
That's all I need is one set every two weeks.
That's perfect.
tim pool
Well, how often do you do it?
danny polishchuck
Ten times a week.
unidentified
Wow.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, it's like New York's the only place.
unidentified
Maybe Austin.
tim pool
Are you just like saying the same joke over and over and over again?
danny polishchuck
Sometimes different ones, yeah.
But it's whatever I'm working on.
But I don't like, like whatever I'm working on for that period.
ian crossland
So far to say, it's a different culture in a big city in the United States.
It is such a different, this country is so, so vastly different.
Divergent.
Like, being in Miami, it's like being in a different country.
phil labonte
That's...
I feel...
If I understand correctly, that's the way that it's been for...
I mean, as long as there have been cities...
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
phil labonte
The culture in the city and the culture in the rural areas are significantly different.
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
I mean, there's a reason why most large cities in this country are democratic.
Like, are there any huge cities that go red?
Like, maybe like Dallas?
ian crossland
I don't know.
danny polishchuck
I don't even know.
unidentified
Like...
danny polishchuck
It seems like most cities are going, oh yeah, yeah, you know, it's like the big city, everybody's a Democrat, and then outside of it, everyone's a Republican.
I mean, even New York is like that.
ian crossland
There's that vibe of like, they'll take care of me.
If I'm in this city, either they're going to take care of me, or it's all screwed, so they better take care of me, whoever they are.
phil labonte
I don't know.
ian crossland
It's like, if there's a fire, we can't put it out.
If the tree falls down, please, someone come and take it out for us.
unidentified
I was just joking about it.
danny polishchuck
Yesterday, I was in Greenwich Village, and there's like a giant...
Like, Greenwich Village is literally a one-bedroom apartment.
It's $6,000 a month.
And there's a hardware store.
Like, must be sitting on a piece of land that would sell for $200 million.
Like, it's so valuable.
And there's just, like, a hardware store.
Like, nobody here is going to a hardware store.
Like, what is this even for?
Like, nobody around here fixes stuff, their own stuff, when it breaks.
Like, you know?
unidentified
Well, the help has to get something to fix it.
danny polishchuck
They're all bug men.
phil labonte
Yeah, but still, like, all this stuff can be delivered by Amazon nowadays.
unidentified
Oh, true.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, that too.
ian crossland
Oh man, big time.
I find myself using Amazon.
Do you feel bad about it?
Kind of not.
I'm going hard on Twitch, and I'm just kind of like, yay Amazon, yay corporations.
I understand the danger of centralization of authority and power.
Amazon could create a drone army and take over the country.
If they tried, they could try, and they could make a dent.
unidentified
Stop giving Jeff ideas.
ian crossland
Yeah, that's crazy.
danny polishchuck
I mean, it's literally magic what they do.
ian crossland
But it's kind of like we were talking about small government earlier.
And I was thinking about the men who built America and how valuable it is to kind of strip away bureaucracy like Elon and stuff.
And like we had Rockefeller and Carnegie and Vanderbilt and how much power these individuals and their corporations accrued because of that.
So you do kind of want some government limiting corporate power.
But I think we have too much government.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, Rockefeller was a G. He was doing by himself 1% of the American GDP by himself.
tim pool
We should have taxed him and taken everything from him.
ian crossland
They tried.
They split up his companies and then he got even richer.
tim pool
Just because it's wrong to be rich for no reason.
danny polishchuck
He wasn't rich for no reason.
He did all that stuff.
tim pool
If you win the lottery, you're instantly evil.
That's just the way it works.
phil labonte
Terrible, terrible take.
tim pool
If you win the lottery, we should take all of your money from you and distribute it to the people.
danny polishchuck
Everyone in this room has won the geographical lottery.
tim pool
Except for you.
You're Canadian.
danny polishchuck
I still feel like it.
phil labonte
You're still protected.
danny polishchuck
Hey, there was a chance that I grew up in Russia, so I'll take it.
phil labonte
You're as protected by America as you can be protected by America and not be in America.
ian crossland
Do you ever go to Canada?
phil labonte
Yeah.
ian crossland
My family lives there.
I don't live there.
Do you go X months a year or anything?
danny polishchuck
No, no, no.
tim pool
Do you have to do hostile environment training and get prepared to go back because of how bad it is?
danny polishchuck
Well, my parents live in a suburb of Toronto, so it's fine.
tim pool
So it's bad, but it's not that bad?
danny polishchuck
It's not that bad, no.
phil labonte
I worry about going to Canada because of my ex-posts.
I'm surprised you don't worry about going there because of your comedy routine.
danny polishchuck
Oh, I say some crazy stuff.
I mean, I made this one thing about Trudeau on Colbert, this AI video that went super viral in Canada.
phil labonte
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
You got in trouble for that, didn't you?
danny polishchuck
No, I got in trouble for the Jake Tapper.
I didn't get in trouble for the Jake Tapper one.
I made this one about the exploding goats, basically when the pagers were going off, and then I said goats, and then Jake Tapper...
tim pool
What?
danny polishchuck
And he's like, I need to talk to you.
tim pool
Are you joking?
danny polishchuck
No, no, no.
I'm friends with Jake Tapper now.
And literally he messaged me because it went mega viral, like tens of millions of views.
And then he messaged me on Twitter and he's like, Danny, this is Jake Tapper.
I need to talk to you.
phil labonte
Text him and tell him.
danny polishchuck
And I was like, I'm in so much trouble.
Because I had two different ones.
tim pool
Jake Tapper?
danny polishchuck
Well, I just thought he was like, stop using my face for your comedy videos.
Like, stop it or whatever, or we're gonna see you.
tim pool
Was he like, hey, this was really funny?
danny polishchuck
Yeah, he was like, can you make me an AI video for CNN? Because I want to do a segment about the dangers of AI. And I'm like, I'm the danger!
tim pool
Did he do the segment?
danny polishchuck
Yeah, he did the segment.
tim pool
Because I'm like, it's gonna show you with, like, a Hitler mustache?
And he's like, this guy did this to me.
danny polishchuck
No, but then he's making it his, like, whole...
Like, top, like, concern right now is this AI stuff.
And he went on Seth Meyers, and he was talking about me, and he called me to talk about you.
phil labonte
Get him to tell his wife to drop out of the New Hampshire race, because I don't want her to be my congressperson.
danny polishchuck
I mean, I have his phone number, but I'm not going to do that.
unidentified
Exit him.
phil labonte
Give it to me.
ian crossland
No!
phil labonte
Jake, tell her to drop out.
danny polishchuck
She's running?
phil labonte
Yeah, she's running against Lily Tang.
tim pool
She lives in New Hampshire?
danny polishchuck
Oh, yeah.
phil labonte
For the purpose of going to Congress.
Right, because he must live in New York.
I'm sure he does.
ian crossland
How long has she lived in New Hampshire?
phil labonte
I have no idea.
Oh, that's crazy.
Long enough to be like, oh, I want to run for president.
But she's totally backed by, like...
danny polishchuck
She's trying to be, what, a congresswoman?
phil labonte
Yeah.
She's trying to take the New Hampshire's second congresswoman.
ian crossland
Shout out to Lily Tang Williams.
I like her a lot.
She's been on the show.
phil labonte
Lily's great.
If you're a voting kind and you're in New Hampshire, you should go vote for her.
ian crossland
She's from China.
She understands...
She's big on gun rights.
She understands self-sovereignty.
phil labonte
Jake Tapper's wife is a total, like, deep state apparatchik.
No joke, she is.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, I believe it.
phil labonte
I'm not kidding at all.
ian crossland
So now you and Jake are tight.
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
ian crossland
You've been working on, so I kind of want to see one of these videos.
tim pool
Why don't you get him in a video with you and Ryan?
danny polishchuck
You know what it is?
I said this on the Boys cast, but he basically was like, can you make me this video of me speaking?
And he gave me all these things to write.
And I was like, sure, I'll make it for you.
It only takes me like 20 minutes.
And then in it, funny enough, he said, like in the text, he said, this video was made by this brilliant comedian, Danny Palachuk.
And I kind of like rolled my eyes.
I was like, whatever, this is what he wanted.
And then I made it and I was in a group chat with him and his producer.
And then I sent them the video.
And then she messaged me, like off to the side, just one on one.
She's like, hey, can you remake the video, but just remove the word brilliant?
unidentified
Yeah.
danny polishchuck
But I was like, those were his words.
I didn't even want to say that.
What's that?
tim pool
I would have just been like, sorry, that's what Jake wanted.
danny polishchuck
Well, what I understand is that I'm making fun of CNN. You should have just said, no.
I'm making fun.
Obviously, I'm like, CNN is somewhat the butt of the joke to a degree here.
And they're trying to be like, trying to use this.
And so he can't like, totally endorse me publicly.
tim pool
You could have taken out brilliant, but put like, genius.
danny polishchuck
Here you go, I fixed it.
Mega genius comedian.
tim pool
Handsome.
danny polishchuck
No, I just wanted you to just remove that.
tim pool
You said remove it, and I did.
danny polishchuck
And then he went on Seth Meyers, and he's like, this comedian is making these gross videos.
tim pool
Did they show a picture of your face where your skin was turned green like Rogan?
danny polishchuck
Oh yeah, no.
tim pool
They're like, look at him, he looks terrible.
So what do you think about- It made you fatter.
danny polishchuck
What do you think about regulating AI? Honestly, so I make all these AI videos, I've been making them for the last month, and there is some percentage, not a small percentage of people- Who cannot tell the difference between real and fake things.
Like, they just can't.
I don't know if it's because their glasses aren't on, they're not paying attention.
I don't know.
But, like, the exploding goats video I made, that was the first one I made that went super viral.
I got a Snopes fact check.
Like, Snopes contacted me and they're like, hey, can I ask you some questions?
We're doing a fact check.
I'm like, you're talking to a comedian right now.
So that should be the end of your fact check.
And they're like, well, no, because there's all these people on Twitter who are...
Saying that the IDF is, Mossad is blowing up goats in whatever, Lebanon.
Like, all these goats in Lebanon are exploding and people are saying this as fact, so we need to do a fact check on it.
And there's just, there's some degree of people.
Now, I don't know what the, like, if there's negative repercussions of that.
Like, I think it's fine.
I agree it probably shouldn't be in political ads.
tim pool
But maybe it should be.
danny polishchuck
I mean, if it is, it'll get so out of hand.
And I'll gladly, if anybody wants me to make them, I'm getting pretty good at it.
tim pool
Do you just use like an app or what?
danny polishchuck
I use this thing.
It's called...
It's actually just like an open source.
It's called Easy Wave to Lip.
It's like a GitHub repo, and then you just run it in a Google collab, like just a source.
It's really easy.
ian crossland
And then what, do you make the work?
danny polishchuck
You just take in the source.
Yeah, so I write a script, and then I put it into this, like, Eleven Labs voice cloner thing, and then you just get a source.
You get a source, like, audio, and then it clones it, and then you just export the new, like, the text, and then you just, like, sync them to the audio and video.
tim pool
Does it make the mouth move, like Jake Tapper's mouth move?
danny polishchuck
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
ian crossland
And it looks almost real?
danny polishchuck
Yeah, I made an Anderson Cooper one about the WNBA. Honestly, if you're looking at it, you can tell.
But if you're kind of...
There's a lot of people who see these and cannot tell.
ian crossland
Especially on little screens.
tim pool
It could be because they have bad eyes.
I'm not being joking.
danny polishchuck
No, no, seriously.
Seriously.
tim pool
The screen might be a little blurry, and so it just looks like Anderson was talking.
danny polishchuck
I purposely make them outlandish enough where you're like, clearly this is not real.
tim pool
Why don't you make one right now which is like, Trump won, it's over.
danny polishchuck
Well, because I don't want to get deported.
ian crossland
I agree with you about political.
I think it's risky.
danny polishchuck
Douglas Mackey, right?
That guy's in jail for like seven years.
tim pool
He didn't make it either.
danny polishchuck
I know.
And I'm very conscious of the fact that I could cross some line and wind up in prison.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
Just by making an AI video.
danny polishchuck
Like, if I do one, then I'm like, oh, no, that's comedy.
And they're like, yeah, well, we don't find it funny.
tim pool
You should make one of Ryan Long saying that.
danny polishchuck
I was going to make one of him endorsing Kamala Harris.
tim pool
Oh, okay, there you go.
unidentified
LAUGHTER That would be awesome.
danny polishchuck
Go check out Ryan's new comedy special, by the way.
ian crossland
Yeah, where is it?
danny polishchuck
It's on YouTube.
ian crossland
Ryan Long Comedy?
danny polishchuck
Yeah, Ryan Long Comedy.
ian crossland
Ooh, when did it drop?
danny polishchuck
It just came out like a week ago.
tim pool
Is it offensive?
danny polishchuck
It is very offensive.
tim pool
Oh, thank God.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
We were filming jokes in the other room with the puppets.
Because we got puppets of Richie and Mike, a special Mike made.
phil labonte
And you.
tim pool
Well, the me one was from Jack Posobiec.
And so we had these other ones and me and Richie were just goofing off and making jokes and being silly.
And then I was about to start a joke, but Sam was filming.
I was like, wait, Sam, stop filming.
And he goes, now I know it's going to be funny.
phil labonte
He was right.
danny polishchuck
You're like, this could damage the brand.
tim pool
No, it was a really dark one.
And I was like, we can't film this one.
And everybody agreed.
danny polishchuck
I could make an AI of all of us talking and saying wild stuff.
And there is, not to discourage your viewers, but there is some percentage of people watching right now who would be like, is Tim actually saying this stuff?
tim pool
You should take a transcription of what Seamus says about his faith and religion, but then make Ian say it.
ian crossland
Oh, that'd be great.
And then make him say the stuff I say.
danny polishchuck
Or maybe Seamus talking about how much he loves the devil.
unidentified
And DMT. That would just be offensive.
tim pool
Like having Ian preach about how he's a devout Catholic and he goes to church and reads the Bible.
ian crossland
How's that not offensive to me?
tim pool
Because you wouldn't be offended by it.
ian crossland
It's less offensive, but Seamus talking about DMT would be great.
tim pool
Making Seamus pray to the devil would be us.
ian crossland
So you're like on the cusp of this stuff.
danny polishchuck
I am, but all this stuff costs me $20 a month to use all this stuff, unlimited.
tim pool
So it's pretty expensive.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, real cheddar.
And it's like the learning curve, I could teach this to you in five minutes.
tim pool
Well, why don't we do this in the members only?
danny polishchuck
Yeah, let's do it.
We'll make one.
tim pool
Let's make something crazy.
danny polishchuck
Let's do it.
Yeah, it's really easy.
tim pool
Let's make...
danny polishchuck
We can make, like, a simple one because the problem is it takes time to render.
unidentified
Right.
danny polishchuck
That's the only thing that it does take some time to render the video.
tim pool
We showed you Suno.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, Suno's amazing.
That blew my mind.
tim pool
Yeah, it was funny because...
So, Special Mike, for those that don't know, he's one of our team writers at the Boonies, and he's ridiculously good.
Trying to explain...
His skill level, because I was saying he's like a top-level pro skater, but he doesn't skate like you'd see on any of these famous videos.
I said he's the Niger Houston of Mike Vallely's, and instantly every skateboarder understands completely what I'm saying, but you guys have no idea.
No idea.
But anyway...
He's trying to do, like, there's been a couple times in the past few days where he's trying to land a trick, and we made this AI song four months ago where it's a pop-punk song where the guy just says, Special Mike is the greatest skateboarder, and then he's trying to do this trick, so I just turn it on, he lands it right away.
really and then and then he was trying to do a kickflip indie it's a trick off you know over this gap and he's falling falling he gives up and i was like oh come on i know you can do this i put the song on and the pop punk song turns on and then he lands it right away and then one of the other pros here is like what What is this?
Like, who wrote this song about Special Mike?
And I was like, what do you mean?
You've never heard this one?
This is a classic pop-punk song from like 2003.
About Special Mike, the greatest skateboarder.
Yeah, how could you not?
And then we wrote one about him.
And then he's just like, what is happening?
When people don't know what Suno is, and you hear a pop-punk song, it sounds like it's from 2006, and they're singing about you and what you do with your life, you're like, how is this possible?
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
tim pool
Now imagine what kids are going to grow up with.
You know, it used to be difficult to make a song.
And when a song was about something, it was like looking at a stone monolith.
You don't know how long it took to build.
Someone had to chisel.
danny polishchuck
You have to learn an instrument.
ian crossland
That's interesting.
tim pool
But it was studio recordings.
It was multiple people.
It was a singer.
And so when they sang, it was akin to a large statue.
Now it's like Play-Doh.
Now you turn on a speaker and it's Donald Trump singing Gangster's Paradise.
ian crossland
I've noticed when I record myself doing something and I watch it over and over and over again, it becomes easier to replicate it.
So when I hit those notes in a song, the really hard ones, I can do it easier because I've seen myself do it so many times.
So if I forged an AI of me doing something challenging, I wonder if that would make it easier for me to actually accomplish.
danny polishchuck
Oh, if you just have to see it, like do something that is out of your kind of...
ian crossland
And I believe I can do it because I've seen myself do it so many times.
unidentified
Yeah.
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah, this ass stuff is getting crazy, man.
danny polishchuck
It is, but yeah, they're going to try.
The Jake Tapper thing is he had Amy Klobuchar on, and she's trying to put together some bill.
But again, it's a First Amendment issue, right?
tim pool
This is what I was saying before.
If I can do an impersonation or an impression of Donald Trump, why can't I use a tool?
To simulate, what's the difference?
danny polishchuck
Absolutely.
And now, if I started trying to do something that I guess would create civil unrest, and I was...
And again, whatever technology I have access to, which is open source and cheap...
The North Korean or the Chinese government, they have 10 versions ahead of this.
They could do probably some wild stuff.
tim pool
The crazy thing is when you stop seeing deepfakes is when you should be scared.
ian crossland
Oh man, that's for sure.
The difference is impressions and impersonations.
It's the difference.
Because if you're doing an impression of someone, you're good.
But as soon as you start to impersonate, especially a politician...
tim pool
Impersonation implying you are intending to deceive someone that you are them for the sake of some kind of gain or whatever.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, and the thing is, what I'm doing is definitely covered by the First Amendment and parody law, but they wrote those laws.
AI wasn't a thing.
They were like, yeah, of course you can put on a wig and pretend to be Donald Trump.
Right.
tim pool
But even just voice.
danny polishchuck
Voice, yeah.
tim pool
And a lot of people do a really good Donald Trump voice.
So the AI is not a perfect Trump voice, but it's close enough to where people might think it.
danny polishchuck
That's not perfect.
tim pool
And if you get a really good impression from someone, they might be like, oh, that sounds a lot like that.
danny polishchuck
And I mean, Gavin Newsom's AI bill, which obviously was mostly nonsense, but part of it was like, hey, you can't just, if you're a Hollywood studio, you can't take some actor and just use their voice.
unidentified
Yeah.
danny polishchuck
But I am.
tim pool
Hollywood's over.
Hollywood is a lot of trouble.
I was saying before we're a couple of years out, but it could be sooner than that, where you just sit down on your TV and there's going to be an app called Hollywood Star or something, and you're going to say, render me a movie about Spider-Man, but he wants to be a stand-up comedian, and so he hangs out with Danny Polishchuk, and then he succeeds.
And it will be like rendering, and then it'll take like 15-20 minutes, and then it'll play.
And you will literally watch a full movie with Spider-Man.
ian crossland
The amount of entertainment I've gotten out of Suno, just sitting down and making songs for three hours and listening to the songs is like, dude, I just went to a concert.
danny polishchuck
If you just hit that generate button enough times, it's going to crank out a hit at some point.
tim pool
Dude, it's going to be insane, the kind of things that are created in the next year or two.
danny polishchuck
Well, you're a musician.
What do you think?
phil labonte
How long until they're...
danny polishchuck
No, about like the Suno thing.
Have you seen it?
phil labonte
No.
danny polishchuck
Oh, okay.
Oh, you haven't seen it at all?
You haven't seen this?
tim pool
Well, we'll mess around with this stuff in the members' show.
But I'm imagining someone...
danny polishchuck
Coming for your job, dude.
tim pool
You're going to see videos of like...
Someone's going to say, give me an episode of Friends where Willem Dafoe's Green Goblin shows up and blows up the Friends apartment, but then Phoebe ends up falling for him and they get married.
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
tim pool
And then, could you imagine watching that?
Whatever you imagine.
danny polishchuck
Oh, you throw in a VR and The problem is the little intricacies and the dialogue.
tim pool
It'll get it.
danny polishchuck
That, I don't know.
I think the storytellers will still be needed.
tim pool
I'm going to play a song for you.
ian crossland
There's an AI mod for Skyrim where you can talk to the NPCs and they respond.
phil labonte
The thing about, at least as far as my job goes, artists and stuff, The personality is what matters nowadays.
They can AI songs and stuff.
danny polishchuck
Like comedy?
tim pool
I'm actually not worried about comedy.
I've got two songs.
They're clips.
And these are Donald Trump tweets that we made earlier in the year.
Check this out.
unidentified
We'll explain for me to my wonderful son, Baron, who is a great student at a fantastic school that his dad would likely not be allowed to attend his graduation.
Show me something that we have been talking about for years.
Because a seriously conflicted and corrupt New York state judge wants me in cradle court on a bogus.
But in case, which according to virtually all legal scholars and pundits has no merit and should never have been brought this fake case, this only meant to accolades, but inventing me from proudly attending my son's but inventing me from proudly attending my son's graduation seems very unfair.
Doesn't it?
But this whole event is unfair.
We won't get the many fake cases that are perpetuated by the White House in order to help the worst president in history by far get re-elected.
Okay, so that's where it's at.
danny polishchuck
That took you how long to make?
tim pool
30 seconds.
Now listen to this one.
I love this one.
Another Trump tweet.
unidentified
This Trump flick, Trump hate, judge won't let me respond.
People that all teeny lying and spewing hate all day long.
tim pool
This is so good.
danny polishchuck
John Lee Hook.
unidentified
The New York system of justice is being decimated by critics from all over the world.
I want to speak or at least be able to respond.
Rection interference. Rection interference. Rection interference. Rection.
Or at least be able to respond. Rection interference.
Rection. in constitutional trial.
The music, the instrumentation is almost indiscernible.
tim pool
That took me 30 seconds, and that was earlier in the year.
ian crossland
Is that Suno?
danny polishchuck
Yeah, it probably has two new versions, or five new versions.
ian crossland
It's at 3.5 right now.
It was at 3 about a year, half a year ago, something like that.
tim pool
That rock opera song about Barron going to high school or missing the graduation ceremony was so good.
I told Carter, I was like, we should actually flesh that out and make a cartoon of Trump singing this, because that's how good the song was.
Think about where we're going to be in a year.
So two years ago, I used AI to make a picture of Nancy Pelosi and it looked like a grotesque monster.
It was crappy.
danny polishchuck
Exactly like her.
tim pool
Now you can make a picture of her and it looks like a...
Right.
But nowadays, you could just be like, give me a picture of Nancy Pelosi doing a kickflip and you'll get it.
Now you can make a video saying, make a video of Nancy Pelosi riding a bike and it will make it.
phil labonte
Remember a year ago the video of the spaghetti?
Yeah, exactly.
Will Smith eating spaghetti and he's eating his hand turned into spaghetti and stuff.
Now the detail and the resolution that it comes up with is mind-blowing.
In a year, there's not going to be any difference between your 4K actual videos and things that the...
danny polishchuck
I mean, they definitely need some sort of instant detection, some sort of software.
phil labonte
How?
When it's all just developing?
danny polishchuck
Well, here's the thing.
When I post on YouTube, I actually mark it as altered content, just so I don't get in trouble.
Because they did, even the Exploding Goats one, I got a strike...
From Warner Brothers, because Warner Brothers copyright strike me and claimed the video as their own because their bot that crawls YouTube for their content couldn't tell the difference between mine and theirs.
I got it back because I was like, it's after like 10 days, but it was mine.
But Twitter...
After, I want to say 4 million views on the video, put up an altered content.
And even with the altered content notification underneath, people were like, is this real?
So there's some people who are like hopeless for this stuff.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, and I understand there's some people that are hopeless, but like everyone's going to be hopeless.
tim pool
Yeah.
phil labonte
Because it's going to be indistinguishable.
And the thing that I can't get beyond is like...
What is it that AI is going to look for to identify AI versus real?
Because at the end of the day, it's just pixels.
I think the audio might have some markers.
danny polishchuck
Because the audio, sometimes when I export the audio, it does sound a little robotic.
phil labonte
In a year?
danny polishchuck
Eventually, yeah, I know.
And then you can have Donald Trump telling all his constituents, hey, go do something crazy.
And all it takes is one person to do it.
tim pool
And they're going to claim it's real.
So here's what I've been warning about AI is it's not fake videos.
So take Donald Trump when he said very fine people on both sides, but I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis or the white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.
The fear is that what happens is that video comes out.
The media, what did they immediately do?
They said Trump called Nazis very, very fine people.
But for someone like, you know, Brandon Strzok or whatever, and he's a former Democrat, he ends up finding the videos where he's like, wait a minute, there was more that transcript.
And now Snopes eventually debunks it.
Let's say the video came out but AI existed.
Someone would take it, immediately re-render it so that Trump says they were very fine people on both sides and I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and white supremacists because some of them should be condemned totally.
They changed they to some of them.
You can make a very minor change.
danny polishchuck
You can do that in literally four seconds.
tim pool
And then what happens is every Democrat would share the some of them and every Republican would share the they.
And then Republicans would be like, he said, condemn them.
And the Democrats would go...
Some of them, he was saying some were good.
And you're like, he didn't say that.
He said they should be condemned.
No, he didn't.
Here's the video.
And then it doesn't matter what's true because they've seen a video they assert is true and it looks like CNN. And there's no way to tell the difference.
You'd have to go to the source like CNN. But if it's a grainy cell phone video of capturing an event, then no one knows which one's the original.
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
Or what if the AI software that flags AI starts flagging real stuff as AI? And it already does.
Yeah.
This is altered.
tim pool
No, it's not.
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And we're going to have that members-only show coming up tonight, 10 p.m., but also tomorrow at 11 a.m., We have the members-only exclusive behind-the-scenes of Josh Sider's social experiment where he said he was trans, but he was not.
And so, well, that'll be fun.
All right, Kyle says, Topics I hope Joe and Trump talk about.
Epstein, aliens, assassinations, ending war, and criminal aliens.
Kamala could never survive on JRE. Interesting.
Jungle Run says, On a hike with my six kids.
Welcome to the club, Tim.
Thank you very much.
Good, sir.
I appreciate it.
The Emperor's Champion says, hey, New York Times, I already voted for Trump today.
I can't vote for him more.
I'd love to see an end of income taxes.
Who would not?
I don't know that anybody...
If you go to a party and everyone's like, you hear this, Trump wants to end income taxes, who's opposed to that?
If you raise your hand, they're going to be like, we can't be friends.
We all have our limits.
Mike Oxard says, Donald John America must win, and by a lot, go out and vote, even if they try to do election F word again.
Aha.
There you go.
Alright, Michael Bowers says, my wife is officially a U.S. citizen as of today.
Unfortunately, she missed voter sign-up, so she can't vote for Trump like she wanted.
phil labonte
Drag.
Congratulations on being a U.S. citizen now.
tim pool
Let's see, what is this?
Turbo Bastard says, someone I know just got a $3,000 check after working 34 hours of overtime during the two weeks and lost over $1,000 to taxes.
Well, you vote Donald Trump, he says no taxes on overtime, huh?
Sounds like a pretty good deal.
Alright.
Ultimate Gaming says, please, please shout this out.
I'm trying so hard to find a job, but I can't.
My wife, my six-month-old daughter, and I are going to be evicted next month.
unidentified
Hmm.
tim pool
Sorry to hear it, brother.
I hope you find some work.
Maybe you can make AI videos for Danny.
unidentified
I don't know.
danny polishchuck
My YouTube channel is fully demonetized, so...
What?
tim pool
Really?
danny polishchuck
Why?
Because I posted some clip from my...
I do this podcast live call-in show called The Bath House every Tuesday night at 9 p.m., and I posted one short, even though the whole video was on my channel, the whole episode, and then I posted one short from the thing the day the Unabomber, Ted Kaczynski, died, and we weren't even, like, we were just joking, and...
And not saying anything pro Unabomber, nothing.
And then they just flagged it and they gave me a strike, demonetized my channel, and then they said it was demonetized for glorifying terrorists or whatever.
And then that strike, you can never be remonetized, even though it was my first strike ever.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Really?
danny polishchuck
Wow.
Demonetized for life.
tim pool
Jeez.
danny polishchuck
So anyways, not hiring AI guys.
tim pool
Well, that's it.
danny polishchuck
For the love of the game.
tim pool
Faust says, Danny P, boys, boys, boys, boys, boys, boys, boys.
Is that what you do on the show with Ryan?
You say boys the whole time?
danny polishchuck
Yeah, boys, boys, boys.
tim pool
That's all you do?
danny polishchuck
No girls allowed.
unidentified
Just like this.
danny polishchuck
I love this.
It's all boys.
tim pool
No girls allowed.
danny polishchuck
No girls allowed.
tim pool
What is this?
Jason Hutchinson says, obligatory libertarian sound off.
Taxation is theft.
North Libertarian says, Trump must have heard Dave Smith may vote for him.
Dave Smith is voting for him, and we did want to get to that, but we didn't end up getting to it.
Dave Smith said he's voting Trump.
Yeah, he posted a video that says, Dave Smith, I'm voting for Donald Trump.
ian crossland
Did he say why?
tim pool
Yeah, well, he said he saw Kamala Harris campaigning with Liz Cheney and he went, you deserve to lose.
Like, there's a lot of reasons you deserve to lose, but just seeing that, I was disgusted.
danny polishchuck
And the Libertarians hate their candidate.
Yeah.
phil labonte
He's a gay communist.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, the Libertarians are not pumped with Chase Oliver.
phil labonte
Not at all.
tim pool
Well, they chose him.
ian crossland
Yeah, they colluded, apparently.
Two of the three challenging parties got behind the scenes, and they were like, let's make sure Clint Russell doesn't get it.
We'll choose Chase.
danny polishchuck
Well, he wasn't even...
I moderated the Colorado State Libertarian Convention, and Clint wasn't even one of the...
phil labonte
Yeah, he wasn't running for presidency.
danny polishchuck
They were all...
He was insane.
tim pool
The whole thing was nuts.
Clint's in Miami.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, he wasn't even – he was never even running.
tim pool
He was VP. No, Clint was running for VP. Oh, he was running for VP, I guess.
Yeah, but he wasn't – And then Mike Termott went to Chase Oliver and said, I'll support you if I'm your VP. I'll tell everyone of my voters to support you and then we win.
And then otherwise it was going to be Reckdenwald and Clint Russell.
But, you know, it's – I'm convinced – my conspiracy theory is that Angela McArdle has organized everything behind the scenes in a large chair with a velvet back and a cat in her lap stroking it.
ian crossland
One of those psychic things on her head where she's controlling impulses.
tim pool
Sending, you know, and then she's like sending out letters of instruction to her minions and it's like we're going to nominate as a libertarian party Chase Oliver.
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
tim pool
So the Mises caucus votes Donald Trump and Trump wins and then puts a libertarian in his cabinet.
danny polishchuck
I mean, the only funny thing from the moderating their state thing is Mike Tremont actually said he's like, we're currently polling at zero.
unidentified
Yeah.
danny polishchuck
He's like, we're polling at zero, so let's say some crazy stuff.
phil labonte
They're the worst candidates the Libertarian Party has ever put up.
tim pool
It's true.
Trump said he's going to put a Libertarian in his cabinet, and I doubt it would be Dave Smith, but that would be great.
Clint would also be great.
danny polishchuck
I hope so.
They put Dave Smith in, and they go, what's this Legion of Skanks podcast?
What do they do on there?
Shout out to the Skanks.
I love them.
ian crossland
Tower Gang as well.
I was going to see Tower Gang represented in the federal government.
tim pool
Pittsburgh says, Who is Danny Polishchuk?
I thought today's guest is named Siraj Hajmi.
danny polishchuck
Oh, I made this video where I took a little shot at Siraj.
tim pool
Oh, why would you do that?
He's a very nice guy.
danny polishchuck
No, I love Siraj.
I made this video of Hamas thanks to the women of...
tim pool
I hear he's gay.
danny polishchuck
That's what he says, yeah.
ian crossland
I think his wife says that too.
tim pool
Why is everybody laughing?
I love Siraj.
All he does is retweet posts about how gay he is.
I'm not joking.
He does.
danny polishchuck
Well, as far as I know, he has a lovely beard at home and a new child, so...
tim pool
He's a funny guy.
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
unidentified
All right.
Where are we at?
tim pool
Where are we at?
We'll grab a Super Chat here.
Oh, what's this?
Jacob Stein says, Tim, currently in the hospital, welcoming our firstborn child.
Please shout out Jasper Wade Stein.
Also praying for a smooth pregnancy for Allison and your future child.
Many blessings.
danny polishchuck
Thank you very much.
ian crossland
Congrats, dude.
Jasper.
tim pool
I appreciate it, yeah.
danny polishchuck
Should have brought some cigars.
tim pool
Well, I'm not going to smoke them.
danny polishchuck
You have to.
tim pool
Yeah, I can't do it.
danny polishchuck
That's what you do for a child.
tim pool
No way.
We're health conscious over here, you know?
Insurance won't let us.
Is that a better excuse?
danny polishchuck
Okay.
ian crossland
You seem so deflated when you say health conscious.
danny polishchuck
Well, I didn't bring him.
tim pool
Oh, I totally would have, you know?
Oh, no.
All right.
Strawberry mochi.
Very delicious, by the way.
The Amish are voting for Trump.
ian crossland
Yeah, it makes sense.
tim pool
Are they really?
ian crossland
I don't know, but it would make sense.
danny polishchuck
I saw tons of Amish on the train today.
tim pool
On the train?
danny polishchuck
Yeah, the train over here from New York.
Tons of Amish on the trains.
tim pool
Well, there's like a bunch of Amish that live near here.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, I guess they're coming here.
tim pool
They sell pet milk.
danny polishchuck
I don't know what language they were speaking.
tim pool
Was it Amishian?
danny polishchuck
Maybe.
It was not English, that's for sure.
It was not any language I had ever heard.
tim pool
Amishese, we call it.
Yeah.
Amishese.
danny polishchuck
And one guy had an amazing beard.
tim pool
Maybe they were just speaking Dutch?
unidentified
Yeah, I don't know.
danny polishchuck
Some sort of Dutch something?
It's actually Amish.
tim pool
German.
Did they say anything like Hagenflagen?
danny polishchuck
I overheard it and I go, it's some variation of something.
tim pool
Wait, is Hagenflagen German or Swedish?
danny polishchuck
Swedish, I think.
unidentified
Swedish?
tim pool
Yeah, it's Swedish gibberish.
danny polishchuck
Swedish gibberish, yeah.
There's the meat, the chef on...
unidentified
They call it Dutch.
tim pool
What do you actually say?
danny polishchuck
Muppets.
Hagenflagen?
tim pool
Swedish gibberish.
All right, what is this?
Paul Graham says, it's not fair to call Kamala a potato.
At least a potato provides value and is useful.
unidentified
Yeah.
Okay.
ian crossland
Yeah, you can make alcohol out of potatoes.
tim pool
That's true, you can.
War Machine says they've called Trump Hitler, Stalin, and Mussolini.
I bet they call him Sauron before this is over.
Mark me.
They called him Voldemort, too.
Sauron.
Yeah, but they're not savvy on the Lord of the Rings.
They get Harry Potter because it's like, you know, children's Lord of the Rings, you know what I mean?
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
tim pool
Seamus had a really funny idea.
I don't know if I'm going to ruin his joke by saying it, but I'm going to say it anyway.
It was a bit where it's Harry Potter becomes a right-wing grifter, so he renounces witchcraft and becomes Christian, and then he goes on all these talk shows where he's talking about how witchcraft is real and it's bad, and he's no longer doing witchcraft.
danny polishchuck
That's pretty good.
unidentified
He becomes a right-wing grifter.
tim pool
Alright, what do we got?
unidentified
What do we got?
tim pool
We'll grab some more of these.
Super Chats, they could call them.
Sane says, Insane Clown Posse endorsed Kamala.
Oh, really?
That's a letdown, man.
You know that one song they had in the 90s?
ian crossland
Yeah, I remember they had one song.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, I just saw they opened.
They were the surprise guests at Skank Fest this year, and they opened up Skank Fest.
tim pool
Did they really?
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
Like a little private concert.
tim pool
I thought they were based.
danny polishchuck
I thought they were too.
That was surprising.
They might be doing like Costanza.
They're doing the opposite.
tim pool
What if they endorse Kamala and then get invited to do an event for it, but then come out and be like, yo, we were kidding, dude.
unidentified
Trump, Trump, Trump.
ian crossland
Oh, no, that'd be awesome.
tim pool
That'd be great.
All right.
Ryan Sarge says, want to talk about scrubbed from the internet?
Try googling DOD 524 0.01 section 3 subsection 3 article C. Joe Biden Kamala made the law for the president to be able to use military and citizen.
We did talk about that the other day.
phil labonte
We did talk about that last night.
tim pool
It's been popping up all week.
Yep.
Mr.
Nice Bobby says, cheers from Brazil where voting is mandatory.
Who would win, in your opinion, if voting was mandatory in the U.S.? Kamala Harris.
No question.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Because you'd get a bunch of people who are like, I don't know.
A guy on TV said Kamala.
unidentified
Yeah.
Beep.
danny polishchuck
I like my abortions.
tim pool
That's not even that.
Most people, if compelled to vote, would just be like, I don't know.
unidentified
Yeah.
danny polishchuck
Bah.
tim pool
Beep.
Although, I don't know.
Trump is a celebrity.
They might be like, yeah, Trump.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, it's a tough one.
I mean, it is crazy that it's just like basically half the country goes one way, half the country goes the other.
There's not much daylight.
ian crossland
It's too crazy for me.
I don't trust that.
I don't think it's real.
tim pool
We need a landslide.
I don't mean like an electoral college.
I mean, we need a sweep.
We need Trump to win the popular vote, the electoral college, the House, the Senate, etc.
So that way we can totally rebuke wokeism.
ian crossland
Yep.
tim pool
That's what we need.
danny polishchuck
I mean, that's what it will be if that's what happens, yeah.
tim pool
Because the message needs to be sent to these people that not only do you lose money, but your ideas are not popular with the American people and you're on the wrong side of history.
danny polishchuck
Yeah.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
ian crossland
All right.
tim pool
Squanchy says, I love watching your shows.
Big fan of the morning show, but Monday and Thursday and Sundays are for football.
Sorry, brother.
Well, you know, football.
There was a really funny thing I was watching on Fox and Friends where Lawrence, their morning host, goes to a barbershop and he's asking this black dude, like, he's asking a bunch of black dudes at barbershops about who they're voting for and why.
And he asked one, he's like, what do you think is the most important issue?
And the guy goes, sports!
He's like, I'm kidding, but, you know, he's not.
Most people don't care and they're probably talking about sports.
danny polishchuck
Oh yeah, if you could vote at like a football game...
Oh, that'd be weird.
ian crossland
I used to watch so much sports.
So much football.
Did you ever go through a phase like that?
Are you in a phase like that?
danny polishchuck
I don't watch a...
tim pool
I watch soccer in Canada.
danny polishchuck
Hockey?
unidentified
Go Leafs!
danny polishchuck
I almost wore my Toronto Maple Leafs jersey, but then I went for my...
tim pool
No, no, soccer.
danny polishchuck
For my America jersey.
tim pool
We play hockey here, you know?
We're really good at it, and Canada just tries, you know?
danny polishchuck
Americans actually are really good at it.
I think the Olympics, the next Olympics, the NHL players haven't been allowed to play for a while because of contract stuff, so it's been all non-pros, but the pros are coming.
I think the Americans are going to win.
tim pool
Really?
Is Canada going to get angry?
danny polishchuck
They're not going to like it, but the Maple Leafs best player, Austin Matthews, is American.
tim pool
Is hockey the Canadian sport because you guys basically live in blocks of ice?
Yes.
ian crossland
Are you excited for global warming?
danny polishchuck
I live in New York, yeah.
I don't live in Canada.
tim pool
Did you flee Canada because it was too cold?
danny polishchuck
Uh, no, just the entertainment industry sucks.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
I heard that 90% of Canadians live within, like, 50 miles.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, yeah, something like that.
tim pool
Were you gonna say kilometers?
danny polishchuck
I think it's kilometers.
ian crossland
Of the U.S.? Might be miles.
50 miles of the U.S.? Of the U.S. border, yeah, yeah.
Oh, really?
tim pool
Did you see that SNL skit about...
danny polishchuck
Yeah, Nate, with Nate Bragazzi.
tim pool
Is that who that was, when he's talking about the metric, the measuring system?
danny polishchuck
I mean, metric system rules.
tim pool
Dude, that was so good.
danny polishchuck
Honestly, I know this is unpopular.
I've lost the U's in all the words I write.
I don't write flavor with a U, none of color.
tim pool
What about metric time?
Do you use that?
80 past 70.
danny polishchuck
Metric time, no, but man, I like a good kilometer.
Let me tell you.
tim pool
That's a Simpsons joke.
I'm just stealing it.
I have no jokes.
It's just Family Guy or Simpsons.
Anybody who knows these things is like, yep, Tim watched TV in the 90s.
unidentified
Me too, man.
tim pool
That's also another Family Guy joke, by the way.
danny polishchuck
Oh.
tim pool
Layers.
Let's see, what is this?
Polly Puree says, the best way to vote was voting machines not connected to the internet.
Least amount of fraud.
Disagree.
There was a guy who did a thing where he popped out a drive or whatever and flipped it.
Like, I forgot what it was.
He put something in...
He put a USB, it wasn't a USB or a memory card, or he popped it open and he put data in it, and then it flipped the votes.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, for sure they can be compromised.
Anything that has a motherboard, there's a way to...
tim pool
Paper ballots with poll watchers at each location, and when they're counted, you have every single person watching and all agreeing the votes being counted.
That's it.
unidentified
Yeah.
danny polishchuck
Seems reasonable.
tim pool
Decentralized.
Let's grab some more Super Chats.
What have we here?
Let's see.
phil labonte
John...
tim pool
I can't pronounce...
I'm not gonna read your last name.
It's too long.
danny polishchuck
Sorry.
tim pool
Humans will always find a way to F something up.
November 5th, I thought Election Day was Christmas Eve.
When did they change it?
Was it ever Christmas Eve?
phil labonte
Not that I'm aware of.
tim pool
Yeah, the Constitution says it's like the first Tuesday of November or something, doesn't it?
You want to look it up?
phil labonte
I'm not sure.
tim pool
It's something like that.
danny polishchuck
As far as I know, I don't know if it's in the Constitution.
unidentified
It was just the first Tuesday of November.
tim pool
The Constitution says there will be a single day for the election to be held on the...
I think it's the first Tuesday of November or whatever.
Is that what it is?
danny polishchuck
It must be because it's the first Tuesday of November.
It'd be crazy if it says something different.
tim pool
But it might be...
And it's not the 5th because the date changes.
unidentified
Right.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, it can't be that.
phil labonte
I'm looking here.
unidentified
Am I going to find it faster than you?
phil labonte
Maybe.
unidentified
Maybe I'll find it the fastest.
phil labonte
Statutorial set by the U.S. government as the Tuesday next after the first Monday in November.
tim pool
Ah.
unidentified
Oh.
ian crossland
Okay.
So not the second Tuesday, necessarily.
tim pool
And is this a...
This was an amendment that did this, or this was the original?
phil labonte
I'm not sure.
danny polishchuck
Tuesday after the first Monday.
tim pool
Tuesday after the first Monday.
ian crossland
How did they come up with that?
phil labonte
Because of...
danny polishchuck
As late as the 8th?
tim pool
Because if the month starts on Tuesday, it will not be that day.
It will then wait a week until the next Tuesday.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, because everybody's got to pay rent that day.
Nobody wants to go vote.
phil labonte
And also the...
The reason they set it up like that is because you have to have time to do the harvest and then go and vote.
tim pool
Right.
phil labonte
Because it was done.
tim pool
Because they were farmers.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
That's crazy, huh?
All right.
What do we hear?
Oferouk says, serialize the ballots, put serial numbers on them.
Per state, if they can serialize our money, then do the same in the ballots.
Don't they?
They don't do that?
phil labonte
I don't think so.
unidentified
Hmm.
tim pool
Interesting.
phil labonte
Even still, if they're serialized, they're not tied to a person.
tim pool
Gigi Will says, my mail-in vote in San Diego came with a code so I can check my vote count on the website.
I just say no mail-in voting.
You have to vote in person.
Ballets are blank.
That's it.
ian crossland
And you know, one problem with being able to verify on a website is that it might say one thing on the website, but be counted as something different.
So you really need a verification through somehow if you're going to do that.
tim pool
Alright, let's see what we got.
unidentified
Where are we at with some super chats?
tim pool
Okay.
I find amusing we could call elections on the day in the 80s and now 40 plus years later, it's somehow impossible to call the election on the day of.
ian crossland
Oh, that is so ridiculous.
He's right.
That is so not real.
danny polishchuck
I mean, a country like Brazil, they have, what, 200 million people?
They do it.
tim pool
No, I think it's like 60.
danny polishchuck
Is it 60?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, I don't think Brazil is 200 million.
danny polishchuck
Brazil is huge.
tim pool
It is huge.
I don't think they have that many people.
danny polishchuck
I thought it was up there.
tim pool
60?
What is it?
ian crossland
I use AI now.
It's awesome.
danny polishchuck
It's like 190 or something.
ian crossland
211 million.
danny polishchuck
Whoa, really?
I'm pretty sure they call it...
phil labonte
Almost 312.
danny polishchuck
There you go.
I'm pretty sure they call it data.
tim pool
And more votes.
I'm not going to stand corrected, actually.
I'm just going to say that both of your fact checks are wrong.
AI is wrong and Danny is wrong.
And I'm just going to choose to be right.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, that's fine.
tim pool
60 million, that's it.
danny polishchuck
60 million.
tim pool
That's it.
It's proof.
danny polishchuck
You hear that, Brazil?
I'm pretty sure Rio's like 60 million.
tim pool
Alright, RodeoHamster says, Phil, I saw All That Remains open from Megadeth in Cincinnati.
You guys went so effing hard.
I loved it.
phil labonte
Thank you.
tim pool
I bought your shirt there, too.
phil labonte
Appreciate it.
Thank you very much.
ian crossland
You came back with beast energy.
phil labonte
Well, I appreciate that.
unidentified
I love it, too.
phil labonte
Thank you.
tim pool
All right.
CodeMonkey says, Ian, you're killing me with the free the code BS. You can have all of the cleanest and fairest code you want.
All I need is root level cron job script with access to the results, DB, and I can obfuscate TF out of the script.
Ask me how I know.
He's implying that he's done it.
unidentified
Are you implying that you've done that?
tim pool
Yes.
ian crossland
There's no perfect answer, that's for sure, but it's more secure than paper ballots.
phil labonte
what's your plan you're just like you say it's more secure than paper ballots so what's your plan what's your plan Well, the plan was paper ballots.
ian crossland
It's less secure.
I want more secure.
phil labonte
I don't know that you can...
tim pool
Democrats want less secure.
phil labonte
And I don't know that you can actually get more secure if it's computerized.
danny polishchuck
Blockchain.
Blockchain is...
tim pool
Oh, this is important.
Mark Prior says, Hi guys, I'm Amish.
I'm sorry, he says, Hi guys, the Amish speak an older version of German.
The word for German in German is Deutsch.
Misheard by English settlers sounds like Dutch, hence Pennsylvania Dutch.
unidentified
Ah, gotcha.
I was trying to tell you guys.
danny polishchuck
I thought he was saying he's Amish.
I'm like, you can't be on YouTube right now.
tim pool
They can.
danny polishchuck
Can they?
tim pool
Bro, you've never gone to Amish country?
danny polishchuck
I have when I was, I went to Pennsylvania Amish country when I was like 12.
tim pool
Yeah, you go to the supermarkets?
danny polishchuck
No, they were all, they were all, we went, we shot like the show, we saw like the show Amish where they didn't have any of this stuff.
tim pool
There are, there's Amish people down the road and they're in a building with refrigerators and on their phones and I don't know, people just make assumptions about what Amish people do.
danny polishchuck
I thought that was their whole deal.
phil labonte
Do they drive cars too?
tim pool
Yeah, I don't know.
How do they get deliveries?
danny polishchuck
Well, in the Amish, like in Pennsylvania, they all have the horse and...
tim pool
Oh, no, they definitely do, because when we would go to the farm stand, they'd drive up to drop off the meats and stuff.
danny polishchuck
Oh.
ian crossland
So are they, like, Jewish?
unidentified
I don't know.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, I was going to say, they're Amish, like, I'm Jewish.
ian crossland
Okay.
tim pool
No, they're Amish, and they wear little bonnets and stuff like that.
I think it's just the TV that convinces people that Amish people don't use technology or whatever.
danny polishchuck
I thought they're not allowed to.
tim pool
Yeah, see, exactly.
It's probably just a movie or something.
ian crossland
We'll look it up.
danny polishchuck
No, no, no.
I definitely went to Amish country in Pennsylvania, like, when I was 12, and they were doing none of it.
tim pool
But maybe that's just the tourism show thing.
Yeah, maybe.
Because there's, like, in Maryland, there's, like, a big Amish shopping center.
danny polishchuck
Oh.
tim pool
And it's, like, all the kids are in uniform.
ian crossland
Apparently there's old order Amish.
They generally reject public grid electricity, but then there's new order Amish that are more...
tim pool
Yeah, there's a bunch of kids.
They're wearing like little Amish outfits with bonnets and stuff.
danny polishchuck
Yeah, they were all wearing the bonnets.
tim pool
And the little boys are wearing little button-ups and suits or like pants or whatever.
danny polishchuck
I saw them.
tim pool
But you walk in and there's computers and there's cars and you buy food and they farm and stuff.
ian crossland
But they say that even the Old Order Amish generally will have alternate power sources.
They're just not tied to the grid.
Like generators, propane, solar panels, wind power.
tim pool
And they're probably just a lot happier all the time.
ian crossland
Wow, they're just off-grid.
That's cool.
tim pool
I bet they're alive.
danny polishchuck
You know what?
I actually was thinking that in the train station today when I was waiting for the train.
I saw the Amish, and everybody was on their phones, and they were all just talking to each other.
unidentified
Were they?
tim pool
Yeah, and I was probably better.
I can give you one reason why I guarantee they're happier than other people on average, and it's because they have chickens.
I'm not kidding.
There's that meme I told you about where guys like my neighbors got chickens and then they woke me up in the morning and they were doing weird little chicken things and making chicken noises and I just started laughing and now I feel good and my days are better because I wake up.
Thank you, chickens.
It's like, bro, you can't be depressed while you're looking at chickens.
You're lying to yourself when you do.
ian crossland
Only that they're in cages.
I get sad.
tim pool
But you can let them out and they can walk around.
You just gotta make sure you keep the bad ones away, like the coyotes and stuff.
But if you're sad, down, or feeling depressed or whatever, and you look at chickens, you're gonna laugh.
They're such dumb little...
ian crossland
Chase after them and they don't run that fast.
danny polishchuck
I think we should turn that into a song on the after show.
tim pool
Let's do it.
danny polishchuck
Chickens will make you laugh.
tim pool
I wrote a Chicken City song.
unidentified
We should pump it out.
ian crossland
That was a good one.
tim pool
Yeah.
And then we'll make a music video of Danny singing it.
unidentified
Yes!
tim pool
Let's do it.
Zandrux says, give the Dems some credit.
The need for abortions is likely to increase with the number of unverified individuals allowed into the country.
ian crossland
Yikes.
unidentified
Jeez.
tim pool
A little dark, huh?
Alright.
What do we got here?
People wanting me to do Tim Castile from the delivery room?
That's not going to happen.
danny polishchuck
That's real dedication.
phil labonte
All right.
tim pool
Heisenberg says, Hi, Danny.
Please check your DM. I'm concerned for Ryan's health.
unidentified
Okay.
All right.
tim pool
All right.
Trucker Wall says, Phil, what should the military truckers, traveling nurses, doctors, emergency response personnel, pilots, train conductors, etc.
do without absentee ballots?
Millions would be disenfranchised.
phil labonte
That's why I said that it should be a holiday.
tim pool
Holidays are good.
I think Election Day should be a holiday.
And that being said, smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know, become a member by going to timcast.com and clicking join us, because we're going to go to the members only show where we're going to make naughty AI songs, naughty ones.
So, you know, don't bring your kids.
It's not so family friendly, but it'll be fun and funny.
And as a member, you get access to the Discord server, where you can join a community of people who are like-minded, but probably, you know, you just argue.
But if you're looking for people to hang out with, meet and communicate with, and you're concerned about politics or whatever, here's a good group of people.
They make shows.
There's pre-shows.
There's after shows.
There's special programs.
People are working together.
They're building stuff.
That's what it's all about.
So become a member at TimCast.com.
You can follow me on X and Instagram at TimCast.
Danny, do you want to shout anything out?
danny polishchuck
Yeah, just go subscribe to my YouTube channel, Danny P, like the letter, comedy, and I'll be in Albany and Hartford December 4th and 5th, dannycomedy.com for tickets.
ian crossland
Give me an E in Crossland.
The Discord is legit.
It's a lot of really cool people from different venues and walks of life, so that's a really high-value opportunity to get involved with a lot of cool people.
Through timcast.com, go for it.
It's really cool.
A lot of good people.
Gamers, too.
Hot gamers.
We're looking at starting up a 7 Days to Die server.
I don't know if I'm going to do it or not, guys.
I can't take power gaming.
We'll figure it out.
Thanks for the message.
I think it was T-Bone.
Did you hit me up?
Alright.
Talk me out, Philly.
phil labonte
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The band is All That Remains.
You can follow us on Spotify, Apple Music, Deezer, uh...
Pandora.
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And don't forget, The Left Lane is for Crime.
tim pool
We will see you all over at TimCast.com, but if you're listening on the audio podcast, give us a good review.
It really will help.
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