Oct. 26, 2024 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Ladies and gentlemen, | |
| we just got a ruling from the Fifth Circuit Court, which, oh boy, it says that mail-in votes that are received after Election Day are in violation of federal law. | ||
| Now, the interesting thing is this was a strategic lawsuit in Mississippi that seems to have the intention of making it to the Supreme Court to shut down any mail-in votes not cast after Election Day, but received after Election Day. | ||
| You know what that means? | ||
| If this precedent had been set in 2020, Joe Biden would not have won. | ||
| And I agree with this. | ||
| The Constitution prescribes an election day. | ||
| Counting ballots after the fact makes no sense. | ||
| So this is setting the stage for something crazy. | ||
| What happens if, in 11 days, Donald Trump wins? | ||
| However, many states announce they've got mail-in votes that have yet to arrive and will come in at 3 in the morning. | ||
| Then Kamala Harris wins, but the Republicans sue, citing Fifth Circuit Court precedents in the Supreme Court, who agrees with Republicans and says Kamala Harris loses, not because she didn't have enough votes, but because the votes came in after Election Day. | ||
| Very interesting. | ||
| How about that? | ||
| We'll talk about that. | ||
| So, we got 11 days before Trump gets in, and maybe it's true. | ||
| The Uniparty establishment is intending on starting World War III before Trump can get in to prevent it. | ||
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| I like drinking coffee a lot, but I just I like the heavy acid that rips up your lips and stuff, so it's nice. | ||
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| Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Mike Benz. | ||
| Hello. | ||
| Who are you? | ||
| What do you do? | ||
| I'm Mike Benz. | ||
| I fight for freedom of speech on the Internet. | ||
| Well, simple enough. | ||
| Do you have any accolades or anything people should know about? | ||
| Have you ever, I don't know, invented something with a clock in it? | ||
| I am simply a prolific chronicler of the nefarious misdeeds of government abuse. | ||
| Ah, here we go. | ||
| And the whole society network that is working together to try to stifle your ability to speak on social media. | ||
| Right on. | ||
| We got Brett Dasovic hanging out. | ||
| Oh, we're going to be good friends. | ||
| I can tell right now we're going to be good friends. | ||
| Guys, my name is Brett Dasvick. | ||
| You can usually find me Monday through Friday right here on YouTube, Talking Pop Culture with Mary. | ||
| Tonight I'm happy to get into all of the ways in which I've been avoiding the election cycle, the way this country is falling apart. | ||
| Can't wait to be awake for all of it. | ||
| Maybe I'll get some cast. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| Way to pull you in. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that's what I said. | ||
| Like, most of the time, I'll tell you what. | ||
| So before I worked here, I followed politics religiously. | ||
| It was something I cared a great deal about. | ||
| Now, because of work, I don't really do that as much. | ||
| And since having to get back into it, I'm like, wow, this is why I don't follow it as closely anymore, because the world feels like it's falling apart all the time. | ||
| It hurts, doesn't it? | ||
| It does. | ||
| It does. | ||
| Well, popculturecrisis.com, I think, links to your channel, right? | ||
| Yes, it does. | ||
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| We have a lot of fun. | ||
| When you listen to this all night, I guarantee you, you will have way more fun talking about what the stupid things the celebrities are doing. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Ian's here. | ||
| I am. | ||
| Wearing another weird jacket. | ||
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It is. | |
| This is the blue velvet. | ||
| You have a bunch of velvet jackets? | ||
| Yeah, I've got purple, blue, gold, and green. | ||
| They have names. | ||
| Not yet. | ||
| Let's call this one Camel. | ||
| I mean, Blue Velvet's good. | ||
| That's not working, is it? | ||
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Camel. | |
| I'm going to call this one Benz, named after the maniac over my left. | ||
| I will admit, Ukraine colored, though, today. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| He's pro-Ukraine. | ||
| It's all subversion, my man. | ||
| We're going to love you. | ||
| I tell you what, I've been talking about the liberal economic order a lot lately, Empire, and I actually brought up USAID the other night. | ||
| I've learned a lot from your work, Mike, and I don't know if people really truly understand the prolific nature of your work. | ||
| You're one of the best in the world, I'll be honest. | ||
| I think right now we need you and people like you. | ||
| I feel better when you're around, man. | ||
| So thanks for coming. | ||
| I feel better when you're around, man. | ||
| My dude. | ||
| And this guy jams hard. | ||
| If you don't know his music, check it out. | ||
| Right on. | ||
| Well, we got a guy who jams here, too. | ||
| Hello, everybody. | ||
| My name is Phil Labonte. | ||
| I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band, All That Remains. | ||
| I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary, so let's get into it. | ||
| Here's a story from CNN. Trump appointed... | ||
| Okay, I just gotta preface this. | ||
| CNN's pissed. | ||
| Okay, let me tell you how they frame it. | ||
| Trump appointed appeals court judges say Mississippi is violating federal law with mail ballot deadline, but don't block it. | ||
| They can't just say, Fifth Circuit Court rules, mail-in votes violate federal law if received after Election Day. | ||
| They would have if it had gone the other way. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| If the ruling had gone the other way, it would have been Fifth Circuit ruling. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But because it goes against their weird sensibilities and their, I don't know, uniparty establishment bootlicking, then it has to be Trump-appointed. | ||
| They have to delegitimize it. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Check us out. | ||
| A panel of three Donald Trump-appointed judges said Friday that Mississippi was violating federal law by counting mail ballots that arrive after Election Day, but stopped short of blocking the policy before the election in a ruling that could nevertheless impact voting-related lawsuits this fall. | ||
| The ruling from the Fifth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, which is Alito's circuit, by the way. | ||
| It's a victory for, and he's based, it's a victory for the Republican National Committee and others who brought the case in Mississippi, a non-battleground state with very little mail-in voting, seeking a ruling by a far-right circuit court friendly to their arguments. | ||
| Yes, that's called jurisdiction selection or whatever? | ||
| Venue shopping. | ||
| Venue shopping, there you go. | ||
| Democrats and voting rights advocates fear that a ruling of Republicans' favor will be used to boost challenges to late arriving ballots in other states, which could make the difference if the margins are tight in key races. | ||
| Quote, Congress statutorily designated a singular day for the election of members of Congress and the appointment of presidential electors. | ||
| The Fifth Circuit Court panel said text precedent and historical practice confirm this day for the election is the day by which ballots must be both cast by voters and received by state officials. | ||
| Among the states that allow late arriving ballots are Nevada, Ohio, Virginia, as does Maryland, the site of a competitive Senate race. | ||
| Also allowing for post-election ballot receipt is California and New York, both states that could make a major difference in which party controls the House of Representatives. | ||
| So here's your scenario, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| In 2020, Donald Trump won on Election Day. | ||
| And Donald Trump said, hey, look at that, I win. | ||
| They said, no, no, no, we're going to get ballots at three in the morning. | ||
| And they did. | ||
| And then Joe Biden won. | ||
| If this president stands, late arriving ballots don't count. | ||
| Now, the argument back then was so long as they are postmarked before on or before Election Day, they are good ballots to be counted. | ||
| This ruling says no, no. | ||
| You could have mailed that in three days ago, but if it arrives after Election Day, it does not count. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| It is the right way to do things. | ||
| If you want to vote by mail, Everybody says this. | ||
| Whenever you're mailing anything, you've got to mail it early to make sure it arrives on time. | ||
| It is not anyone else's responsibility if your vote don't make it. | ||
| We should not have vote month. | ||
| Now, what happens if, in 11 days, Donald Trump wins? | ||
| He says, hey, everybody, I win. | ||
| I'm the president. | ||
| And then they say, we've got ballots that have yet to arrive, and we're going to count them at three in the morning. | ||
| And then Republicans sue, citing Fifth Circuit Court precedent, take it to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court agrees. | ||
| Ballots that arrived after Election Day are void. | ||
| They cannot be counted. | ||
| Kamala would have won, doesn't win. | ||
| Democrats then assert, we won the election. | ||
| The only reason we're not allowed to have Kamala get inaugurated is because the Supreme Court, Trump's cronies, blocked us. | ||
| Republicans then say, no, your garbage late ballots don't count. | ||
| Election Day was the fifth, not the sixth. | ||
| That doesn't count. | ||
| We win. | ||
| Both sides then have some version where they claim legitimate authority over who actually wins. | ||
| And where does this country go from there? | ||
| I don't know, except for maybe people who bet on polymarket don't get paid out and are quite upset. | ||
| Also, it feels like when they do this, it's designed to just keep the stress on the public, right? | ||
| Like, before you at least knew that if you went to bed fairly early on election day and you woke up the next morning, you were going to know who the hell was elected. | ||
| Now you don't even have any guarantee that that's what's going to happen. | ||
| Very strange precedent, man. | ||
| Well, there's no reason for it. | ||
| You might be able to make a convincing argument because of the novel election in 2020, because of COVID, you might be able to. | ||
| I still would say it doesn't matter. | ||
| I don't think that constitutional rules should be bent just because there's some kind of emergency, because the government will just create emergencies. | ||
| And I think we all kind of agree on that, and we've seen that in the past. | ||
| That being said, if the case is the ballots have to be in by midnight, and if they had stuck to that last time, Donald Trump would be the president. | ||
| So the people that say, oh, this election was either there are people that say, oh, you can call it whatever you want, but it was a novel system being used. | ||
| It was unconstitutional. | ||
| And by that standard, Joe Biden is a totally unconstitutional president. | ||
| The thing that I'm a little confused about is it says that they're violating federal law, but they don't actually block it. | ||
| And so there's the question about whether or not this, as applied, actually has any impact on the 2024 election, unless, I guess, as Tim was saying, it gets escalated to the Supreme Court. | ||
| And if the Supreme Court ratifies the Fifth Circuit ruling here, if they then go the extra step of blocking it, but they simply keep it as is, And say it's a violation of federal law, but for whatever process reason, it won't go into effect until the next election cycle, then it may avoid this Civil War scenario that Tim's laying out. | ||
| If they haven't specified it, then I imagine the scenario that Tim lays out is... | ||
| Honestly, it's more likely than not. | ||
| Because everyone, you know, there's been multiple states that have said, oh, it's going to take us weeks to count the ballots. | ||
| It's going to take us blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| Was it Maricopa County? | ||
| It said 14 days. | ||
| It was multiple, multiple jurisdictions. | ||
| I don't remember exactly which ones, but it may have been Maricopa, but it was definitely like five or six or two. | ||
| Definitely three that I've heard, and I want to say up to five, that have said, we're going to take a long time to count the ballots. | ||
| We won't know. | ||
| And the media continues to push that narrative. | ||
| Hey, it's normal. | ||
| We're going to keep doing this. | ||
| Only happens in swing states, but it's completely normal. | ||
| You know, you see that. | ||
| And also, you know, it's... | ||
| Only in the United States as well. | ||
| We were talking yesterday, I think it was about Brazil, how many people are in Brazil and how fast they know the results of the election. | ||
| Unless it's literally hair's breadth close, there's no reason they can't forecast it. | ||
| And if the ballots that get in by midnight are the only ones that count, then you could probably pretty accurately predict what's going to come out. | ||
| Why anyone would want to not see this outcome is weird. | ||
| Because they want to be able to cheat. | ||
| That would be the only reason. | ||
| The same reason they don't want people to have IDs. | ||
| Whoever says this is not a good idea is assuming that there's going to be late ballots. | ||
| Late ballots are not a good thing. | ||
| Late ballots means we failed at some degree. | ||
| And we're able to, after the fact, see how many we need in order to skim. | ||
| No matter what side they come in on, if ballots are coming in late, they already know what they need to change the outcome. | ||
| So you don't want late ballots. | ||
| Well, no, they do. | ||
| But the reason is just like the reason they don't want to have IDs is because they don't want tight rules. | ||
| Tight rules are harder to get around. | ||
| Whatever the rules are, They should be tight and strict. | ||
| You don't want proof of U.S. citizenship to vote in a U.S. election. | ||
| Just this morning in Virginia, the Justice Department has forced illegal voters, non-U.S. citizens, back on the voter rolls. | ||
| The Justice Department intervened. | ||
| Glenn Youngkin, the governor, is absolutely livid over this, and rightly so. | ||
| But the Justice Department, the crooked Merrick Garland criminal mafia squad that currently occupies that building, has forced illegal voters back on the voting rolls. | ||
| Less than two weeks before the election. | ||
| So, I mean, I wouldn't overthink this. | ||
| Their job is to try to pad as much as possible in order to do a come from behind red mirage blue shift type event like they did in 2020. | ||
| That's the function of Mark Elias. | ||
| That's the function of Norm Eisen. | ||
| That's the function of the Brookings Governance Institution and the Aspen Institute Governance Institution. | ||
| This whole policy web is designed to allow the political operatives to harvest, to mail, and to do, frankly, several other things. | ||
| Well, where's the Republican apparatus? | ||
| What do they have? | ||
| Well, the problem is, is any attempt to muster a Republican apparatus will get chewed up by the Justice Department. | ||
| This is what they've been doing. | ||
| There's the 65 project to arrest, imprison, and disbar, as they did Rudy Giuliani, John Eastman. | ||
| And real quick... | ||
| The Tea Party had the IRS sent on them by the Obama administration. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that's not even a big, powerful legal apparatus. | ||
| It was Tea Party members were getting investigated by the IRS for ridiculous reasons. | ||
| Well, look at the Georgia situation, right? | ||
| 19 of Trump's allies, including Trump himself, were rolled up by the criminal justice system for an alternative electors scheme, right? | ||
| That was the exact same thing that the Democrats did in 2016. | ||
| They actually got 13 votes in the Democrat Congress to go ahead with an alternate elector scheme. | ||
| They were game doing that in 2020 with a group called the Transition Integrity Project. | ||
| But when the Republicans tried it, because they controlled the Justice Department, they simply arrested them. | ||
| They called it a civil, they called it a RICO scam when Republicans did it. | ||
| It's just like when there are protests that turn violent on the Republican side, that's called domestic terrorism and, you know, 20 year felony conspiracy charge. | ||
| But when they do it, it's good trouble. | ||
| So it all comes down to who controls the Justice Department. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Is it possible to have it so nobody controls it? | ||
| That it just can exist? | ||
| No, because it's people. | ||
| It's always going to be run by people. | ||
| And even if you go and say something like, oh, well, someday it's going to be AI, there's going to be someone that programs the AI. You cannot get rid of the inherent bias from human beings. | ||
| It's one of the reasons why when they talk about draining the swamp, I always kind of side-eye it because the idea is like even if you get rid of top brass in every government organization, they trained the people under them who a lot of times share the same belief systems that they do and a lot of times vote the same way or part of the same party that they do. | ||
| It's not so simple as to just find some corrupt politicians, find corrupt government officials. | ||
| It's been cycled downwards through the process of vetting, hiring and everything like that. | ||
| It's impossible to really make that change in one fell swoop. | ||
| The Blob has increasingly made, our foreign policy establishment has increasingly made prosecutions and control over justice departments in countries all over the world a linchpin of our diplomacy strategy. | ||
| Everyone right now can go to Google and look up a term called transitional justice, which is basically now a State Department doctrine that's based on as soon as one of our supported political movements wins an election, Everyone can go to journalofdemocracy | ||
| .org right now. | ||
| And if you go to the Wikipedia, sorry to cut you off, but if you go to the Wikipedia, it says transitional justice is a process which responds to human rights violations. | ||
| So automatically they're saying that this is because they're clearly the bad people. | ||
| What it's about is when the State Department or CIA-backed political movement in a particular country or region narrowly wins an election, that's usually the result of tens of or hundreds of millions of dollars of support from U.S. government-funded NGOs or U.S. government institutions, and that's expensive that's usually the result of tens of or hundreds of millions of | ||
| The easiest way is to simply knock out the other party entirely so that you can achieve democratic stability, i.e. a permanent auto win for the CIA-backed political movement there or political regime because everyone else from the opposing party is purged and in jail. | ||
| And that is what transitional justice is about. | ||
| We set up the same thing in Ukraine, by the way, when we controlled the prosecutors there as Joe Biden himself testified to the Council on Foreign Relations. | ||
| We did the same thing in Georgia. | ||
| We're doing the same thing in Poland, the same thing in Moldova. | ||
| We're doing the same thing in Chile and several other Latin American countries. | ||
| We've rolled this out worldwide. | ||
| Norm Eisen, who's the major legal hatchet man for this whole Trump operation, Get Trump, his literal bio is called Trying Trump. | ||
| He wrote a whole book on it. | ||
| He wrote 10 articles of impeachment for Trump, I think his first year in office behind the Russiagate, the Trump impeachment, the Trump trials. | ||
| He started off as a U.S. ambassador to the Czech Republic. | ||
| And one of his claims to fame there was basically suggesting, you know, who, and when a State Department ambassador suggests to a foreign government, you know, who they should prosecute, that message is received. | ||
| you're coming with the full force of the u.s federal government the humanitarian aid the civil society support the carrots and sticks that a diplomat can offer in order to purge that country's political opposition and you see them do this time and time again it works so effectively in in europe the state department teamed up with the george soros anti-corruption ngos to create this whole whirlwind news cycle so that they were stigmatized so that was easier for the justice department to roll them up | ||
| it worked so well in europe that when trump rose to power here in 2016 they simply applied the same playbook with the same networks what kind of What context are you talking about in Europe, just to clarify? | ||
| These anti-corruption probes that are set up where the State Department will back-channel with the criminal justice system there, their version of the Justice Department. | ||
| And participate in these probes to roll up the State Department's political adversaries in the region. | ||
| And there's a great article if you want to pull it up. | ||
| It's on journalofdemocracy.org, which is effectively the CIA's in-house journal. | ||
| It's the in-house journal for the National Endowment for Democracy, which was set up in 1983 by the CIA director at the time to get back the powers that the CIA had lost under the Carter administration and the Church Committee hearings of the 1970s. | ||
| And if you just look up on journalofdemocracy.org, Poland Transitional Justice or Poland Donald Tusk Stamp Out Populism, any of those keywords will get you there. | ||
| And you will see the CIA's in-house journal tell the newly elected Polish government this year, December 2023, less than a year ago, a list of names for them to throw in jail from the party that was just in power. | ||
| This is the playbook for American statecraft around the world, and that is why the driving force behind all this at home comes from that same State Department DOD CIA network. | ||
| It's a playbook. | ||
| The very first thing that comes up is, who is Javier Millet? | ||
| He's a rude, foul-mouthed, and one of the most popular politicians in the world. | ||
| Like it or not, Argentina's chainsaw-wielding president is the new face of populism. | ||
| So clearly the CIA is against him. | ||
| Populism is the State Department's new definition of terrorism. | ||
| We set up this whole apparatus to control the world, to win the 20th century. | ||
| After World War II, we set up the rules-based international order. | ||
| We create a CIA to do the plausibly deniable dirty work. | ||
| We have the State Department be the public face of it. | ||
| We have the DOD for military and paramilitary support. | ||
| And what we started to do was, you know, this whole regime change type operation overthrow governments in the name of stopping communism. | ||
| 9-11 happens. | ||
| We carry that out for counterterrorism. | ||
| Then Trump happens. | ||
| We take this whole apparatus for overthrowing communist governments and for stopping terrorist insurgency groups who want to topple a government that we install in Afghanistan or Iraq, and we simply do it to duly elected, democratically elected governments in the U.S., in... | ||
| In Brazil with Bolsonaro, this is why the CIA director personally went down to Brazil to threaten Bolsonaro before the election because he was casting doubt on the hypothetical future election results. | ||
| We did the same thing in Italy. | ||
| That's why Matteo Salvini is being indicted. | ||
| We did the same thing in France. | ||
| That's why Marine Le Pen is being indicted. | ||
| We did the same thing with the Vox party in Spain. | ||
| That's why so many of them are getting indicted. | ||
| The same thing with the AFD party, the populist party in Germany. | ||
| That's why their party is on the precipice of being banned by the German parliament, because populism is the only thing that can stand against globalism. | ||
| And you have these international markets, you have these banks and these multinational corporations who effectively work with the political arm to staff the State Department, to staff the CIA, to staff the DOD. | ||
| They go out and do the dirty work, and then they get cushy seven-figure jobs. | ||
| As soon as they leave office, they go from making $200, $300K at DOD or CIA to making seven figures, like Mark Milley at J.P. Morgan, or like Jared Cohen at Goldman Sachs now. | ||
| Or like a lot of them. | ||
| They all move into this space because they have put favors in the favor bank for the bankers, and that's the function of the blob. | ||
| I want to ask you guys, we have this story from the Washington Examiner we brought up the other day, but we had a conversation on the Culture War podcast this morning, youtube.com slash Tim Cash. | ||
| Check it out about the fear of civil war with this upcoming election. | ||
| Fortitude Ranch, which is a network of off the grid prepper resorts, they describe it as, has issued a call to their to their members to come to these facilities on Election Day if they live in highly volatile areas. | ||
| You know, and I'd asked Ian about it. | ||
| Do you think or I'd ask the panel, do you think that this is a they're just hyping it up because it's their opportunity to market when people are freaked out? | ||
| Or are they trying to intentionally downplay it out of fear that they don't want to spark a panic by saying, quick, everybody get to the bunkers. | ||
| It's going down. | ||
| Considering the story that we just saw where the Fifth Circuit Court ruled that votes that arrive after Election Day are in violation of the law and the potential. | ||
| And I say it's a potential because I don't know what happens, that this leads to a scenario where Kamala wins, but only by ballots received the next day in the in the wee hours of the morning, much like Joe Biden did. | ||
| And then Democrats claim victory, Republicans claim victory, and then we actually end up with some kind of... | ||
| No president scenario. | ||
| I'm curious with you, Mike, here, what do you think we see, especially considering everything you know about the deep state and the intelligence apparatus, how will they respond and is there a potential for some kind of greater escalation? | ||
| Well, if you play the Jamie Raskin clip, the very influential congressman around, you know, him gloating, it doesn't matter who Trump supporters vote for. | ||
| They can vote all they like for Trump because the fact is we're going to stop it on January 6th, 2025. | ||
| We are going to simply not certify the election by invoking the 14th Amendment. | ||
| So it doesn't matter. | ||
| He can win the election. | ||
| He's not going to get inaugurated because we'll stop him on January 6th, 2025. | ||
| Now, this is very interesting because it's a direct match of the Transition Integrity Project blueprint for the 2020 election, where they simulated an ability to stop a clear... | ||
| To stop a clear Trump win by provoking a breakdown of Congress on January 6th to stop the certification of the election. | ||
| So I have the clip here. | ||
| I'm not familiar with secular or whatever. | ||
| ACLJ.org. | ||
| I just Googled it. | ||
| It's going to be up to us on January 6, 2025, to tell the rampaging Trump mobs that he's disqualified. | ||
| And then we need bodyguards for everybody in civil war conditions. | ||
| All because the nine justices, not all of them, but simply do not want to do their job. | ||
| What he has just said there is worse than what... | ||
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Anybody, any words that were ever said by Donald Trump at that rally? | |
| So this is an event at something in Pro's bookstore. | ||
| I believe it was in D.C. He said that they will not certify, that on January 6, 2025, they're going to assert that Trump is ineligible under the 14th Amendment Section 3. | ||
| And block him. | ||
| You add into the mix the potential for Supreme Court disqualifying large swaths of votes that came in. | ||
| They were cast way before Election Day but arrived on November 6th. | ||
| How is the 14th Amendment? | ||
| What's on Section 3? | ||
| The text of the 14th Amendment is no state shall make or enforce any law which shall... | ||
| Oh, I'm sorry. | ||
| Did I say 14th? | ||
| It is 14th. | ||
| Yeah, okay, okay. | ||
| It is 14th. | ||
| If you wage an insurrection against the United States, you're ineligible for office. | ||
| That's what I think. | ||
| But nobody was convicted of that. | ||
| But listen to what he's – the way he tees it up, listen to how self-aware he is about the magnitude of this. | ||
| He says – he's insinuating Trump supporters are going to be pissed. | ||
| They're going to be rampaging Trump mobs because to their shock and horror, he – When he wins the election, we're going to stop it on January 6th. | ||
| So that's why we need this big military FBI apparatus in order to arrest them all to stop the civil war conditions that we know that we are going to provoke because we're going to rob them of the election at the 11th hour. | ||
| We are going to stop the certification of a duly elected president for democracy. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And he's saying because the Supreme Court did not rule that he's disqualified, it now falls on Congress to do it 14 days before inauguration. | ||
| You say this guy's getting marching orders from international NGOs and things? | ||
| It's a consensus-building process, and Jamie Raskin is in the dead thick of it. | ||
| They wargame this. | ||
| They do consensus building meetings. | ||
| If you follow Brookings or you follow the Atlantic Council Networks or you follow the Transition Integrity Project Networks or the nonviolent civic resistance movement networks, they've been wargaming this stuff for months. | ||
| They wargamed it for almost an entire year before the 2020 election. | ||
| It's the same group that's back again. | ||
| You can pull up the Guardian article by Rosa Brooks just a few months ago that goes over this. | ||
| So is your sense that on, say, January 20th, if Trump does win clearly in the election, is your sense that on January 20th Trump will be inaugurated or no? | ||
| Well, if he wins on November 5th, it's going to set up this scenario that we're now talking about with Jamie Raskin. | ||
| This period between November 5th and January 6th is going to be extremely intense. | ||
| If Trump wins, you are going to see—my sense is that you will see street paramilitary— Left wing slash never Trump, right even potentially. | ||
| You're going to see this sort of summer of love, summer 2020 style riot force start to break out on the streets. | ||
| The media is going to portray them as pro-democracy groups. | ||
| Who are protesting the illegitimacy of the Trump Electoral College victory. | ||
| You're going to see that. | ||
| So that's going to shut down the country. | ||
| It's going to start terrorizing people. | ||
| It's going to start preventing people from being able to communicate. | ||
| You're going to see pressure put on the social media companies. | ||
| Extreme pressure put on by the Justice Department. | ||
| Put on by the advertiser networks. | ||
| You're going to see this crisis response. | ||
| It's going to feel like this country is... | ||
| It's going to feel like the day after January 6th. | ||
| For two months, if Trump does indeed win the Electoral College, in order for them to prime the pump for their extraordinary actions on January 6th. | ||
| So they're saying that because of the January 6th insurrection, that somehow under the 14th Amendment means that he is not eligible to become president and that Congress will have to enact that? | ||
| Is that why they've spent so long over the last however many years To push the idea of insurrection in the media because for the public to fall in line with this, they have to believe because they've been duly told by the mainstream media that that is what happened. | ||
| Even though there was no prosecution for that, they'll just fall in line and believe it. | ||
| Which is part of the reason why I said that the whole going back to calling Trump Hitler in the past week or so, the point of that isn't to convince people about voting. | ||
| It's just to prime the landscape for people to feel like Trump is a danger. | ||
| And now let's read Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. | ||
| But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each house, remove such disability. | ||
| The important factor there is nowhere does it say a president can't be president if they wage insurrection. | ||
| Many people argue that it says hold any office, or as an officer of the United States, but that, I believe, the legal precedent so far was that it does not include the president. | ||
| And the reason for that was, we have the 14th Amendment because of the Civil War. | ||
| And the idea was you're not going to represent a state or be in Congress if you were a part of this insurrection. | ||
| But the president was different because to get elected president would mean that the union states would have a say in whether or not you were president in the first place. | ||
| The argument is if Virginia wanted to send a senator, the union says, nope, that person waged war against us. | ||
| Get somebody else. | ||
| Now, what if someone from Virginia who was involved in the Civil War wanted to be president? | ||
| The argument is, well, OK, if New York votes for that person, that's a union state deciding. | ||
| That's why it says a Congress made by a vote of two thirds of each house remove such disability. | ||
| The reason why president was not included in this is because if union states voted for the person that is removing such disability. | ||
| so this was But none of it matters. | ||
| Tell me I'm wrong. | ||
| Say, Tim, you're wrong. | ||
| I say, okay, fine. | ||
| I guess you're right. | ||
| No one was ever convicted of any kind of insurrection or any kind of—Trump was never convicted under J6. They tried him in—they impeached him, and he was acquitted. | ||
| We're done. | ||
| It doesn't matter, though. | ||
| As Redyard Lynch said the last time he was on the show, both sides believe they are morally justified and are simply looking for plausible deniability to enact their force. | ||
| Now, personally, I think right now, if Trump wins the Electoral College, he wins. | ||
| But they've been repeatedly making the argument that the Electoral College is illegitimate and the Supreme Court is illegitimate. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because Trump will likely get an Electoral College victory and then the Supreme Court will back him up when they challenge it. | ||
| And then they're going to claim, aha, this proves it. | ||
| It's illegitimate. | ||
| All right. | ||
| They're simultaneously opening pressure on potential Trump leaning Supreme Court justices. | ||
| You know, these ethics probes against Clarence Thomas. | ||
| They're, you know, they're opening up the lines of attack against Kavanaugh again. | ||
| They're talking about the repercussions on the court and stacking it to basically try to put a kind of conflict in the Supreme Court individual members minds that if they go against this apparatus as this gets litigated, there will be personal consequences for them. | ||
| People may think this sounds far-fetched, but Schumer himself said that if you go against the intelligence apparatus, they have nine ways to Sunday to take care of you or whatever. | ||
| I don't remember the exact quote that he had. | ||
| Six ways to Sunday. | ||
| But the point being, this isn't something that is... | ||
| A secret in Washington, even if people don't think that they would do it to the United States, or they would do it here, everyone is pretty aware that CIA works in these ways in other countries. | ||
| Like, most people are aware that CIA has had effects on a lot of other countries' elections and the governments of a lot of other countries. | ||
| And the person who's actually... | ||
| Tip of the spear for the Transition Integrity Project that I just laid out here is Rosa Brooks, who is the Undersecretary of Defense for Obama and held a CIA blue badge. | ||
| It's literally CIA, DOD, state every single time. | ||
| It's this same apparatus. | ||
| They're just using the playbook here. | ||
| And they're centered by a company called USAID or an organization. | ||
| You've talked a lot about this is like the brain of the blob. | ||
| Well, USAID isn't the brain of the blob. | ||
| USAID is just like, it's essentially a CIA front. | ||
| Yeah, it's a capacity builder for the assets. | ||
| Now, USAID, in this case, USAID, what they do a lot of the times is they will fund these so-called nonviolent civil resistance movements, which this is a technique for overthrowing a government where... | ||
| There's two ways you can overthrow a government. | ||
| One of them is a top-down military coup. | ||
| You basically bribe a sufficient quorum of the country's military brass and then they control the tanks and so they can simply topple the government through military force or threats of military force. | ||
| That began to be phased out. | ||
| It's still done from time to time. | ||
| But the main way we do this now are so-called people-powered revolutions. | ||
| They have a sort of patina of democracy to them where the State Department and USAID will capacity build. | ||
| They will run hundreds of millions of dollars to astroturf a political movement in a country. | ||
| And part of the linchpin of this are street protests that create a kind of anarcho-tyranny force on the streets that will break up meetings, that will block highways, that will block transportation, that will shut down industrial industries. | ||
| They'll do mass walkouts for the miners, for the hospital workers. | ||
| They will surround parliament buildings or occupy federal buildings. | ||
| And so... | ||
| The idea is media then reports on that as being what the people really want because they're the ones who are out on the street demanding the government and power transition to a new government to be responsive to the people because this is democracy. | ||
| Not reporting on the fact that these people are all being funded by the U.S. government. | ||
| They're being funded by USAID, funded by state, and directed through their leaders by intelligence-backed channels. | ||
| But that gets held up as democracy. | ||
| And then when the police respond to these people throwing Molotov cocktails in police cars, that gets called an authoritarian crackdown. | ||
| And so that then allows the U.S. government and its international partners to put sanctions on that government in order to economically cripple them, in order to put the people into further deprivation, where they're now even angrier at the government. | ||
| And the government has less money to pay the police or the military to contain these CIA, USAID-funded Riots on the streets, but they call it nonviolent civil resistance. | ||
| This is the same thing we saw in 2020. | ||
| This whole framing technique around calling it a protest, not a riot. | ||
| Even though everyone sees everything's on fire, but you call it mostly peaceful because that's how you salvage the... | ||
| The diplomatic norms and standards around it being a pro-democracy movement rather than an act of friggin' terrorism. | ||
| Do you think that it's being turned on the United States right now? | ||
| He's literally articulating how it is, yes. | ||
| That's what you've been talking about. | ||
| To the point where it would... | ||
| Because that makes me think it's not an American thing, this this USAID thing, because if they're willing to create a civil war in the United States with the same technique to overthrow the government, what that's it's why would our own country do that to ourselves? | ||
| Or is it controlled by literally by the Bank for International Settlements in order to stamp out populism to achieve democratic stability because no one can run against them? | ||
| settlements in order to stamp out populism to achieve democratic stability because no one can run against them. | ||
| Let's jump to this next story from The Guardian. | ||
| The Washington Post and LA Times refused to endorse a candidate. | ||
| You know what that means? | ||
| It means they endorsed Trump. | ||
| Refusal to endorse a Democrat from these papers is tantamount to endorsing Trump. | ||
| And I'll give you proof. | ||
| When the Teamsters said they would not be endorsing a candidate, Trump went, wow, it's a great honor. | ||
| They're great people. | ||
| And what do you mean it's a great honor? | ||
| They didn't endorse you, but they may as well have. | ||
| Is this been something that's been a precedent for a long time? | ||
| How long have newspapers been endorsing candidates? | ||
| Because just to me... | ||
| The Washington Post has done it since 1980. | ||
| Outside looking in, it feels like if any organization should avoid attempting to endorse any candidate, it should be the people who have been screaming about their supposed lack of bias for the last two decades. | ||
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| Who did they endorse in 1980? | ||
| No, they've been endorsing Democrats, I think, every election cycle since 1980. | ||
| So in 1980, they endorsed a Democrat? | ||
| Yeah, I believe so. | ||
| Which Democrat was it? | ||
| Someone can fact check, you know, what the whole history is. | ||
| I'm not 100% sure. | ||
| I recall seeing that they've endorsed a candidate every election cycle since 1980. | ||
| I don't know if one of those happened to be a neocon Republican. | ||
| But I do think there is actually a slight difference here between this and the Teamsters. | ||
| Because when the Teamsters... | ||
| Was it Sean O'Brien? | ||
| When he released the Twitter statement saying that they're not endorsing this time, he simultaneously released the internal polling data around how the rank and file who they would have endorsed. | ||
| And I believe it was something like 6535 that they would have endorsed Trump. | ||
| So it's very easy to say, well, listen, they wanted to endorse Trump, but they can't do it for political reasons because they don't want to piss off the Democrats. | ||
| But in this case, it's kind of the reverse because both the L.A. Times and The Washington Post rank and file wanted to endorse Kamala. | ||
| But at the last minute, the owners of the institutions stepped in and said, no, we're overriding what the staff want. | ||
| As the owner of this magazine, I am not going to allow you to put this out, making this political endorsement. | ||
| So at both times, the staff actually wanted to endorse Kamala, but were stopped by the owners. | ||
| This is, by the way, very interesting. | ||
| They did endorse Jimmy Carter in 1980. | ||
| Wow, that was sad. | ||
| So, yeah, the WAPO editor at large resigned after Bezos is rumored to have been behind the Dem-leaning outlet refusal to endorse Kamala. | ||
| The same thing happened with the LA Times. | ||
| Their staff is all in outrage. | ||
| They're banging on the tables like whiny losers, and they're quitting over this. | ||
| That's wild. | ||
| But I'll tell you, there was a post from, I think it was Dave Rubin, that he was driving in an Uber and the guy was saying he's like a liberal area. | ||
| Now I'm voting for Trump. | ||
| You'd have to be crazy to vote for Kamala. | ||
| I think when the Democrat institutions are worried about endorsing Kamala Harris, she's not likely to win. | ||
| Do you guys know who that guy is? | ||
| That WAPO at large? | ||
| Who's that? | ||
| That's Robert Kagan. | ||
| Anyone know who Robert Kagan is? | ||
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Nope. | |
| That's Victoria Nuland's husband. | ||
| And wait, wait, and who's Victoria Nuland? | ||
| Victoria Nuland was the Assistant Secretary of State for Europe and Eurasian Affairs. | ||
| Basically the angel of death toppling country after country all over Europe, particularly Central and Eastern Europe. | ||
| She was the one who was caught on the hot mic with Jeff Pyatt, the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, when we overthrew the democratically elected government of Ukraine in 2014, saying, F the EU. | ||
| We're going to install this new president, Yatsenyuk. | ||
| It doesn't matter what the Ukrainians want. | ||
| It doesn't matter what the EU want. | ||
| We get to pick the puppet president here. | ||
| Victoria Nuland was personally handing out water bottles and cookies to the rioters that the State Department had pumped $5 billion into in order to orchestrate those rental riots. | ||
| She's basically the color revolution queen of the Europe desk. | ||
| She's now on the board. | ||
| Since she left the State Department, she's now moved over to be a board member at the National Endowment for Democracy, which we were just talking about, the CIA cutout, which was created effectively by the CIA director in 1983. | ||
| But here's another great data point on this random WAPO editor at large who they omit is actually Victoria Newland's husband. | ||
| If you guys want to read a great quote, because I talk a lot about the blob. | ||
| I've talked, you know, I said it earlier in our conversation here. | ||
| It means the U.S. foreign policy establishment and its Department of Dirty Tricks. | ||
| If you go to Google right now and you type in Robert Kagan in the phrase, love the blob from Brookings the week before the 2020 election. | ||
| Respect the blob, we'll get there as well. | ||
| Respect the blob? | ||
| What is this? | ||
| Yes, this is it. | ||
| What am I looking for? | ||
| So, Robert Kagan, K-A-G-A-N. I think I have your tweet. | ||
| Yeah, that'll do it too. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Respect the blob, love the blob, learn from the blob. | ||
| So, you'll see there the first image is, you know, by the way, this is, what a love story, right? | ||
| Victoria Newland and Robert Kagan fell in love talking about democracy and the role of American world on their first date. | ||
| And you understand when they say democracy, what they actually mean is totalitarianism. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It means the hour in our democracy. | ||
| At the very least, authoritarianism. | ||
| If you're politically disengaged, you might be able to fly under the radar. | ||
| I have a question for you. | ||
| So who at WAPO ends up making the final decision on whether they endorse or not? | ||
| Jeff Bezos. | ||
| Okay, so Bezos and, like, Amazon and Blue Origin gave money to Kamala Harris, right? | ||
| At least if I remember correctly, gave a bunch of money to Kamala Harris, which means his proto-endorsement for them. | ||
| Why would he avoid that from the newspaper but give money? | ||
| Giving money might be just a... | ||
| I mean, if you've got a lot of money... | ||
| I mean, I understand the point of the... | ||
| What I'm saying is if you've got a lot of money, you give money to everybody. | ||
| So that way you have favors, or at least can hopefully get favors, but... | ||
| Remember, Amazon is a major, major, major military contractor. | ||
| They have a $10 billion contract, I believe, with the NSA alone. | ||
| They also, I think, provide Amazon Cloud or Amazon... | ||
| I think it's their Cloud contract with the CIA. There's so many military sort of intelligent statecraft connective tissue between the Bezos Empire and the... | ||
| The blob, the military defense statecraft apparatus, that you have to make political donations in order to—I mean, it's a tacit pay-to-play. | ||
| And I think in this case, Bezos has felt burned by the Kamala—the whole sort of Biden-Harris— In fact, Zuckerberg feels the same way. | ||
| You've noticed Sergey Brin and Larry Page from Google have been very silent this election. | ||
| A lot of the people, they're milking them. | ||
| Google went all out for Biden-Harris, and their reward was, you know, the Justice Department is now breaking them up. | ||
| Zuckerberg went all out for Biden-Harris. | ||
| The reward is that they got coerced and shaken down on censorship, and then they were left high and dry by the Biden State Department when it came to the EU Digital Markets Act and Digital Services Act. | ||
| Just so you know, I'm not making this term up, the blob. | ||
| This is literally how they refer to themselves. | ||
| That term is not my term. | ||
| It was coined by Ben Rhodes, the Deputy National Security Advisor for the Obama Administration, because of the Obama White House's frustration that this force within Washington was more powerful than the Obama White House. | ||
| So they called it the blob. | ||
| Is that because it just consumes and grows and consumes and grows? | ||
| Yes, it's this sort of amorphous, shape-shifting, alien, indestructible monster. | ||
| When you talk about the deep state, this is the deep state. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| This is purely the deep state. | ||
| Yes, that was the Obama term for the deep state. | ||
| The blob. | ||
| And so this was one week before the 2020 election. | ||
| Brookings, by the way, is the number one ranked think tank. | ||
| And think tank is a very misleading term. | ||
| It is an influence. | ||
| This is policy thought leadership. | ||
| When Raytheon or Boeing or BlackRock or JP Morgan wants a policy in government, they sponsor the so-called think tanks to do it, and then everyone gets their cushy sinecure there as a career path. | ||
| So Brookings is the number one top dog in town for that. | ||
| And one week before the 2020 election, there was a list of 20 policy experts, their advice to the next incoming president. | ||
| And everyone did pages or paragraphs. | ||
| Robert Kagan's was very simple. | ||
| Respect the blob. | ||
| Learn from the blob. | ||
| Love the blob. | ||
| Basically saying don't make the mistake that Obama did towards the end of his term trying to go up against it. | ||
| Don't make the mistake that Trump did trying to do radical reform to it. | ||
| Simply subsume yourself into it. | ||
| Let them do whatever they want and you'll have nothing but you'll be happy. | ||
| Remember when I said politics was depressing? | ||
| It's good to know this stuff. | ||
| Look, he just told you. | ||
| All you gotta do is... | ||
| Look, Brett, let me tell you. | ||
| There's a Cinnabon. | ||
| You know, you go to the mall or whatever. | ||
| You get... | ||
| I don't go to a lot of malls. | ||
| You get one big Cinnabon. | ||
| You ask for extra icing. | ||
| And you don't gotta think nothing about no blob. | ||
| So we've been... | ||
| You just gotta eat your cinnamon. | ||
| Ian? | ||
| We got ice cream downstairs. | ||
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| I'm getting hungry. | ||
| We've been blobbed up for 70 years, it sounds like. | ||
| And we've all had cushy lives, for the most part. | ||
| We've had wonderful lives. | ||
| And that... | ||
| Is it possible that this is the least worst governance on Earth? | ||
| Like, the American life in the 90s and 2000s has been spectacular for all of us for opportunity. | ||
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Relative to what? | |
| Relative to the rest of the planet, pretty much. | ||
| They haven't been operating in the United States like they are now for forever. | ||
| Like, there was a time when they had less effect on internal United States. | ||
| Like you said, the rise of populism is a big part of that. | ||
| This... | ||
| This golden age is the good time that makes weak men that leads to a fourth turning. | ||
| It's like all this money printing. | ||
| We don't want periods of young Americans sitting around doing nothing and getting fat. | ||
| We want a moderate degree of challenge and triumph and both. | ||
| So what did we get? | ||
| It is true that our generation – I don't think it's fair to say we or everyone because there's certainly a lot of people in this country who have had hard times and been homeless and some people are drug addicted. | ||
| But largely conflict-free for the Gen Xer and the millennials having to deal with relatively little – I say relatively little because, of course, we did have Iraq and Afghanistan. | ||
| We had 9-11. | ||
| But now – After the 90s, 90s were great, things are starting to get gradually worse, and it is because we have a generation, millennials largely, who, wow, don't know how to work hard and accomplish this. | ||
| So did the blob keep the American populace in like a glass cage and just kind of keep them soft for the last 20 years, and now they're getting prepared to turn something in on them? | ||
| Well, it goes back before this. | ||
| I mean, the fact is, is conservatives never experienced this before, but liberals did. | ||
| I mean, certainly the populist left was being persecuted by the blob from the 1950s through the 1970s. | ||
| This is what gave rise to the church committee hearings. | ||
| This is what gave rise to Jimmy Carter in his Halloween massacre, laying off 30 percent of the CIA in a single day, slashing their budget. | ||
| That's what resulted in Ronald Reagan resurrecting them through the National Endowment for Democracy in this new pro-democracy public program that has supplanted much of the old work the CIA did. | ||
| But this was there. | ||
| It's happening to the populist right now. | ||
| And it's never happened to the right before in terms of the blob targeting it because the right was always the party of war and big business because you had these – when we created this in 1947, 1948. | ||
| Democrats always had the media, the universities, you know, academia, culture, movies, Hollywood, unions. | ||
| The only counterweight to that on the Republican side is that the Republicans had the military, the energy companies, you know, they had the military, the oil companies, and they had the Chamber of Commerce, the corporations. | ||
| The corporations were Republican because Republicans were low taxes, free markets, free enterprise. | ||
| And so the blob served in large part, not exclusively, but in large part, the sort of Republican side of that equation in the This was the 20th century how we built our empire. | ||
| Marxist or communist or communist sympathizing countries would systematically have their governments overthrown so that we could privatize their industry and multinational corporations who were Republican leaning would get export markets for all their goods and services, would be able to extract the natural resources of an oil company, would be able to extract the natural resources of an oil company, a gas company, a copper, aluminum, agriculture, you | ||
| And so what the CIA and DOD were doing in the scandals from the 50s to the 70s is they were trying to stop the Democrat Party, the populist left side of it. | ||
| The limousine liberal class was cozy with the right wing chamber of commerce class, but there was a civil war on the left between the limousine liberal, basically, you know, hedge fund and Wall Street types and the sort of new left identitarian groups, the ones who were hedge fund and Wall Street types and the sort of new left identitarian groups, the ones who were against NATO overthrowing governments | ||
| And so what the CIA did then is it was targeting that that populist side of the left in order to bring the Democrat Party into the. | ||
| Into unison, so that we're back to Coke and Pepsi. | ||
| And so this is how you add things like Operation Chaos. | ||
| Yes, they named it that, just like they named it Fast and Furious and Crossfire Hurricane. | ||
| But Operation Chaos, for example, you had the CIA bribing student groups on college campuses, paying the National Students Association in order to... | ||
| Stop people from believing ideologically in populist left and bring them into a sort of limousine liberal mentality. | ||
| You had them working with the unions, you had them infiltrating the music groups, and all of this was designed to stop the populist left. | ||
| And the reaction to that was the Church Committee hearings in 1975 and 1976 were Where you had all these Democrats who were in power in Congress and they exposed a huge amount of scandals there. | ||
| The heart attack gun that Frank Church held up, where the CIA was assassinating people like Lumumba in Congo and Allende and Chile. | ||
| That's what gave us the House Intelligence Committee and the Senate Intelligence Committee. | ||
| There was no oversight of the CIA until enough Democrats got pissed that they didn't have control of their own party because the CIA was overthrowing it. | ||
| But it didn't hit Republicans until 2016, and it's unclear if there's a way to... | ||
| It seems to be harder now on us than it was, frankly, on much to the left. | ||
| Let's jump to this story from the Post Millennial. | ||
| Undecided voters lean Trump after suffering from Hitler fatigue. | ||
| Yep, I get it. | ||
| I think part of the reason why I'm being pushed towards Trump so strongly is I find the Democrats on the left keep going straight to Hitler all the time with everything. | ||
| So in the same lifetime now, when people go to movies, they talk about superhero fatigue. | ||
| So we now have superhero fatigue and Hitler fatigue at the same time. | ||
| When Kamala Harris came out and said Donald Trump said he wanted generals like Hitler, I tweeted, this is going to boost Trump in the polls. | ||
| Because we're at the point now where a lot of moderates are just like, oh, you know what? | ||
| Just for that, I'm voting for Trump. | ||
| I am so sick of that stupid garbage. | ||
| The problem is this movie's boring. | ||
| This is supposed to be a Transformers sequel where it's like, okay, we've got all these crazy Trump scandals. | ||
| Grab them by the, you know, they were doing the Trump-Hitler stuff in 2015. | ||
| 2015, they were saying he's got quotes of Mein Kampf on his dresser and some ex-girlfriend 30 years ago said Not only this, the quote about wanting generals was published in 2022. | ||
| So The Atlantic publishes a story acting like it's new, but it came out years ago, and it was debunked. | ||
| They've got an anonymous source who claims it happened, and then two on-the-record sources saying it didn't happen. | ||
| So by any journalistic standards, it did not happen. | ||
| When they rolled it out, they said, and there's an audio, it hasn't been published yet, but there's an audio, the same thing they said about Trump saying the N-word in an elevator, you know, one day. | ||
| The whole thing. | ||
| The elevator thing is funny. | ||
| You know the Huffington Post elevator story, right? | ||
| I always got to pull this one up. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| Huffington Post. | ||
| What do they call it? | ||
| White Whale Trump Elevator X.com. | ||
| This is one of the greatest tweets ever in breaking down what the corporate press is. | ||
| And it is this. | ||
| A tape might exist of Trump doing something in an elevator, though exactly where that somewhere is and what that something might be. | ||
| No one in media can say that's because no one in media seems to have seen the tape or is even confident that it exists. | ||
| OK, so. | ||
| This was 2018 Huffington Post saying somewhere at some point Trump may have done something and someone may have recorded it. | ||
| We don't know what he may have done, where it might have been, who might have recorded it, and no one's ever seen any evidence of this happening. | ||
| Holy crap. | ||
| 14th Amendment! | ||
| That man can't hold office! | ||
| Insane. | ||
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He may have done something in an elevator! | |
| The only noun available, the only information is that Trump at some point went in an elevator. | ||
| That's their story. | ||
| This is what they've been doing non-stop since 2015. | ||
| Holy crap, it's been nearly 10 years. | ||
| 10 years! | ||
| That's why it works so well, right? | ||
| No, what I'm saying, what it works on is that the average person who just would have been undecided but doesn't really like the guy, they're left with the negative impression because all they're hit with daily is negative stories. | ||
| No, this is the point. | ||
| It's fatigue. | ||
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I can't. | |
| I think part of the reason why I'm being pushed towards Trump so strongly is that I find that the Democrats in the left... | ||
| Just keep going straight to Hitler all of the time with everything. | ||
| And if it's not the left pushing Hitler, it's the right pushing Stalin. | ||
| So it's like we're fighting World War II every single day for every single election. | ||
| So it's so exhausting. | ||
| I think it just detracts from – it pushes me away from their position. | ||
| And it's so hyperbolic that it makes it impossible to have good discussions. | ||
| And I think it ruins the discourse. | ||
| Does anybody think it's valuable or something you want to hear from the vice president? | ||
| They're all saying no. | ||
| Every single person is shaking their head no. | ||
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| Nope. | ||
| They all just shook their heads no. | ||
| Nobody wants to hear this. | ||
| All they're doing is pushing Hitler. | ||
| And if it's not the left pushing Hitler, it's the right pushing Stalin. | ||
| I mean, the right's not really pushing Stalin, but whatever. | ||
| Well, I mean, they say communism in general. | ||
| And that's also different because when they talk about the left doing it, they're talking about not just politicians, but the mainstream press, which is able to signal boost this far greater than right-wing media, which is confined to smaller networks, Fox, I guess. | ||
| But also a lot of it's going on on X for right-wing politics, whereas the left is more mainstream. | ||
| I identify with this so strongly. | ||
| It's funny. | ||
| I wonder if they've been listening to me talk and they're like, oh yeah, and Ian's got Hitler fatigue. | ||
| I'm just so tired. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| Like the hate, the scare you tactic is just done, man. | ||
| And I noticed this last one last week. | ||
| I just didn't, this one I just didn't feel. | ||
| I was like, oh. | ||
| Now I'm getting resilient. | ||
| And they used Jeffrey Goldberg from The Atlantic, the guy who lied us into the Iraq War on faking weapons of mass destruction. | ||
| This is the guy that they roll out for this? | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| Anytime I see, whether it be Bill Kristol or any of the cohorts, I'm just like, I can't believe these guys are actually allowed to speak in public. | ||
| But this is what they do. | ||
| This is an intelligence network. | ||
| Anne Applebaum is the marquee staff writer over there at The Atlantic. | ||
| She's also a board member on the National Endowment for Democracy, the CIA cutout. | ||
| She was busted. | ||
| name appears in the UK inner cluster cell of the Integrity Initiative, which is this big British intelligence op to start censoring the internet in 2015, where they told in the instruction manuals to be helpfully uninformative about sources of funding for the organization as they were recruiting into their, quote, inner where they told in the instruction manuals to be helpfully uninformative about sources of funding for the organization as they were recruiting into their, quote, inner cluster cell, high-ranking members of a country's military journalism class, regulators, captains of industry, in | ||
| And then it was busted when all these documents leaked, and so it shut down in disgrace. | ||
| And lo and behold, Ann Applebaum's name is in the UK inner cluster cell that you specify which documents are referring to. | ||
| Yes, the Integrity Initiative leaks. | ||
| It was a seven-part leak, came out in like 2018, 2018, 2019. | ||
| You've got to be a big fan of the United States. | ||
| You can literally run a search on my handle right now for Ann Applebaum or for Integrity Initiative. | ||
| And I have a whole, I don't know, multi-million view thread going through all the major receipts where her network's implicated. | ||
| You know, you mentioned NATO, and I do feel like this blob is, I guess, the liberal economic order. | ||
| This is what it's turned into. | ||
| And I've been thinking it's a bit of a zoom out from inside the blob where we are to BRICS. And we can stay focused on this, too, but I want to know, is BRICS like another blob? | ||
| And if so, BRICS is Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa. | ||
| It's another economic order that's been growing over the last decade. | ||
| I don't know how long it's been around, but... | ||
| Is it another blob? | ||
| And if so, and if not, how do you see these two organizations interacting, the blob and the BRICS? Yeah, it's a China-led. | ||
| Every country has at least a mini blob, right? | ||
| I mean, every country has a version of a State Department. | ||
| It's usually called a Ministry of Foreign Affairs, MFA. In the UK, it's the UK Foreign Office. | ||
| But essentially, this is how you participate in the world around you. | ||
| No country is an island. | ||
| You can't even make a pencil in the United States without getting the erasers from gum trees in Malaysia and graphite from mines in South America. | ||
| America. | ||
| You need to interact in the world in order to have goods and services. | ||
| The State Department, for example, is the first thing we set up in the U.S. government. | ||
| In 1789, we formed only three government agencies, the State Department, the Department of War, which is now the Department of Defense, and the U.S. Treasury. | ||
| I mean, it's your founding government agency. | ||
| And so the moment you have that, You need an apparatus to get your way in the world with other countries. | ||
| And so the intelligence services are folded into it. | ||
| The military coordinates with it. | ||
| And so everyone seeks to influence world events. | ||
| And so you need a blob to do that. | ||
| You need a foreign-facing operations corps who is able to exert leverage, who is able to do intelligence, who is able to run operations. | ||
| But China does that mostly through economic soft power, through what is sometimes called debt trap diplomacy, but oftentimes it's just simply trade. | ||
| Europe, for example, now does more trade with China than with the U.S. They overtook them, I believe, in 2020. | ||
| China has gotten huge influence over Africa through building their ports, building their roads, building their public health, building their infrastructure. | ||
| And in return, the African governments vote their way in multilateral institutions, vote their way in the UN. It's a favors-to-favors relationship. | ||
| Now, the U.S. dollar has been one of the main mechanisms for U.S. economic soft power projection, a way to get influence over foreign governments because they are dependent on the U.S. dollar. | ||
| Everything's transacted that way. | ||
| Dollar supremacy has been one of the ways that we have led the world order. | ||
| As China has risen economically and China has developed partners all around the world in Brexit nations and beyond, They are competing now against the dollar to dislodge it as the sort of economic currency primacy coin of the realm. | ||
| We've seen Saudi Arabia, for example, signal it's not going to renew the petrodollar and that it's going to use a basket of currencies that may be led by the Chinese renminbi. | ||
| I do think it's interesting that news just today broke that Brazil just blocked Venezuela from joining BRICS, which I find very interesting because the State Department worked assiduously to rig the Brazilian election, to censor every Bolsonaro supporter on every social media platform, plus all the encrypted chat apps, ran this whole operation. | ||
| The State Department backchannel with Taiwan in order to get electronic voting machines into Brazil against the will of the Brazilian prime minister. | ||
| The Defense Department, Lloyd Austin, swooped down to Brazil to threaten Bolsonaro. | ||
| The CIA Director, Bill Burns, personally flew down to Brazil to threaten Bolsonaro. | ||
| The State Department diverted semiconductor chips meant for the U.S. just to get more electronic voting machines into Brazil, even though the government of Brazil didn't want it. | ||
| And then, so Lula's installed. | ||
| By the way, Lula was named Man of the Year by the union arm of the National Endowment for Democracy, the CI, so make of that what you will. | ||
| And then Lula comes in just today and is seen as backstabbing Venezuela. | ||
| A lot of people thought that this would go through with Venezuela being joined with BRICS because everyone accused Lula of being a communist and Maduro is a communist in Venezuela. | ||
| But at the 11th hour, Lula backstabs Maduro and says, actually, you're not going to be allowed in BRICS. I wonder if the State Department called in favors to their little puppet in Brazil, Lula, and in exchange for basically getting into power and helping him consolidate power, He, you know, takes out one of their adversary states whose government the State Department is trying to overthrow. | ||
| You conceive that Brazil will leave BRICS then? | ||
| No, I think that... | ||
| BRICS is not... | ||
| It's not fully formed enough. | ||
| It's not going to be a threat until it's a little bit more mature than it is currently now. | ||
| And there's only so much leverage that the US has against China. | ||
| The fact is, as a matter of gross, China probably does have a larger economy than us at this point, just as a matter of gross on that. | ||
| So there's only so much leverage that we can exert. | ||
| We can't get our way the way we used to 30 years ago. | ||
| The world is not unipolar. | ||
| Again, Most countries do more trade with China, so the Chinese Ministry of Affairs has a larger pull on those countries than the US. I ran into that at State when I was at the International Telecommunications Union at State Department Cyber. | ||
| All 40 countries or so in the African Union systematically vote with China for what they want on telecom, and there's almost nothing we can do to convince them, because how do you argue against the fact that China is their economic lifeline? | ||
| All you can do at that point is either bribe them with more money and we're spread too thin with all of our other operations around the world or threaten them. | ||
| And there's only so much you can threaten them before they turn even more to China to offset those threats. | ||
| Let's jump to the next big global news. | ||
| Israel has begun its retaliatory strikes on Iran, sources say. | ||
| We actually have the statement from Iran now. | ||
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In response to months of continuous attacks from the regime in Iran against the state of Israel, right now the Israel Defense Forces is conducting precise strikes on military targets in Iran. | |
| The regime in Iran and its proxies in the region have been relentlessly attacking Israel since October 7th on seven fronts, including direct attacks from Iranian soil. | ||
| Like every other sovereign country in the world, the State of Israel has the right and the duty to respond. | ||
| Our defensive and offensive capabilities are fully mobilized. | ||
| We will do whatever necessary to defend the state of Israel and the people of Israel. | ||
| Do you think that when they recorded that, they all looked at it and said, this is a good speech? | ||
| And intentionally were like, yeah, I like the way he said it, because I feel like it was very uninspired and weak. | ||
| And I'm not trying to be a dick. | ||
| I'm genuinely asking. | ||
| I wonder if Israel was like, we don't want someone who's strong, angry, smoking a cigarette saying, we're going to bomb you. | ||
| Maybe they wanted a guy who looks a little more less aggressive and intimidating, considering the fact that there is widespread war in the region. | ||
| I don't think Mossad and the IDF are stupid when it comes to PR. I think they're very good at relations. | ||
| The metaphor is they are being attacked. | ||
| They are the defenders in this. | ||
| He doesn't seem big and aggressive. | ||
| He does seem like a smaller guy. | ||
| He's calm and mild-mannered and we will respond. | ||
| It's very timid. | ||
| Coming across as very timid. | ||
| I wonder if that's intentional. | ||
| Yeah, I think it's, you know, trying to be diplomatic, understated, somewhat vague about the extent of it, but trying to – I mean, this is standard statecraft. | ||
| I mean, if you listen to a State Department, you know, presser, it has a very similar tone, which is that it's sort of short, concise to the point. | ||
| There's – you don't give, you know, a five, ten-minute soliloquy on it because everything you say, it's almost like when you – It's almost like when you are at a deposition, you try to make your answers as short and tight as possible so that there's nothing to poke at. | ||
| Well, so the news we have here is that several explosions were heard in Tehran on Saturday morning, local time. | ||
| And so I guess, I mean, this could lead to very serious escalation. | ||
| I mean, we're looking at escalation, but I'm wondering if this will put Trump in a position where if he wins, there will be a war that's already begun, something he can't stop. | ||
| I did mention, I asked before the show if this is like they're doing this in Israel because there's no leadership in the United States. | ||
| Hyperbolically, Biden is very weak as a leader, you know, unfortunately. | ||
| And now they're just taking the initiative. | ||
| And it does seem like that. | ||
| And they're going to put the situation in their court if they can. | ||
| I don't know, but that's sure what it seems like. | ||
| I mean, everyone knew this was coming because of the attacks on Israel that happened, what is it, two weeks ago, a week and a half ago or something like that. | ||
| I think it was pretty clear. | ||
| Israel was pretty open about the fact that they were going to retaliate as soon as there were missiles shot from Iran. | ||
| I think they were actually landing in Israel. | ||
| So I don't know that... | ||
| I don't think it's a surprise at all. | ||
| I was just surprised that it took this long. | ||
| Well, it literally leaked like three days ago that these highly classified documents of the Israeli intended attack plan against Iran leaked. | ||
| It was a huge international incident, actually, because it's unclear who leaked it. | ||
| There are allegations around some of these sort of Iranian-adjacent members of the National Security Council. | ||
| We're in charge of the intelligence portfolio that may have leaked this in order to stop this from happening. | ||
| But to Tim's question about, you know, how Trump, how a change in government here will impact the course of events there, I do think that much of what we're seeing right now with the extent of the Israeli military excursions I do think that much of what we're seeing right now with the extent of the Israeli military excursions into Lebanon and into Gaza and into Iran are a function of | ||
| Which is what really broke apart so much of the of the consistency between Israeli foreign policy and U.S. foreign policy. | ||
| When NATO had this big plan to open up Iran's oil and gas, because after the U.S., Iran sits on, I think, the world's second largest reserves of oil and third largest reserves of gas. | ||
| maybe third and fourth, but it's either second, third and third and fourth. | ||
| Basically, one of the largest oil and gas centers in the entire world. | ||
| But the whole thing has been under sanctions for decades, effectively. | ||
| But under the Obama administration, NATO energy companies began to see an opportunity that if they were to remove the sanctions on Iran and partner with the Iranian government, there would be trillions of dollars in windfall profits if they could simply take that oil and gas, and they would get a cut of it. | ||
| Iran would sell it on the open market to the world, and they would get rich. | ||
| It would be like if an asteroid came to Earth and it contained the galaxy's largest concentration of gold. | ||
| How many gold companies would rush to that? | ||
| If you remove the sanctions, it's like that all opens up. | ||
| So that was what the Iran deal was in 2015. | ||
| And this is what created this giant rift between Israel and the Obama administration. | ||
| Trump's first act in office was getting out of that Iran deal. | ||
| That placated the Israeli side of that, and it greatly angered the NATO side of this. | ||
| This was a huge, huge issue. | ||
| And if you remember, our current CIA director, Bill Burns, is the guy who personally negotiated the Iran deal for the Obama administration. | ||
| Because this is a major, effectively, over the course of a decade, a multi-trillion dollar windfall to whoever can open that up. | ||
| The problem is the Israeli government sees that as a massive security threat to Israel. | ||
| And time is not on their side under continuation of a Biden-Harris foreign policy on Iran styled after Obama in 2008 to 2016. | ||
| Because if Iran is allowed to operate, to basically sell its oil and gas on the open market and make hundreds of billions of dollars from that, they will 100x their economy. | ||
| And the idea then is that they would be able to pump up their military proxies, Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, and militarily overwhelm Israel. | ||
| And so I think a lot of what we're seeing right now is part of this proxy war between Israel and NATO around the economics of Iran. | ||
| And I think that they're hoping for a change in government that will put sanctions back on Iran. | ||
| Right now, Trump stopped China, for example, from getting around those sanctions. | ||
| He threatened China that they were not allowed to trade with Iran on oil and gas. | ||
| Just two months. | ||
| And you can look this up. | ||
| Fact check me on this. | ||
| Type in China-Iran $400 billion, and you will see the $400 billion deal that was signed. | ||
| $400 billion from China to Iran in March 2021, just two months into office. | ||
| Something China had been waiting the four years of the Trump administration to do. | ||
| in order to have China pump up Iran's economy and get all the oil and gas from there. | ||
| $280 billion for developing Iran's oil, gas, and petrochemical industries. | ||
| $120 billion for upgrading Iran's transportation and manufacturing infrastructure. | ||
| 25-year cooperation plan signed in 2021 as a comprehensive agreement between the two nations. | ||
| The program outlines China's investment of $400 billion in Iran over the next 25 years in exchange for a steady supply of oil to fuel China's growing economy. | ||
| That's just China. | ||
| Now imagine if the sanctions are lifted and you have the U.S., Germany, the United Kingdom, France. | ||
| And first of all, that also massively threatens Saudi Arabia because Saudi Arabia's market share goes way down because they have to compete on equal par with Iran globally. | ||
| The price of oil plummets because of the glut of supply on the market. | ||
| This was the basis of the Abraham Accords, is that Israel and Saudi Arabia were drawn into this alliance, Israel on security grounds around the Iran deal, Saudi Arabia on economic grounds because of the Iran deal. | ||
| laid the groundwork for effectively that new peace in the region. | ||
| And it came obviously at the expense of the Iranian economy. | ||
| But you have this larger proxy war playing out around that. | ||
| And I do think that this drastic military action is because Israel sees it needs to make a time sensitive military move on this, because they have been they have felt existentially threatened by the Biden foreign policy. | ||
| So they think that so the Biden foreign policy has been to open up the sanctions again to continue Obama's plan to allow Iran to sell its oil Did he do that during his four years? | ||
| He did not because I think of how much they've been attempting to do this. | ||
| It's one of these—and mind you, Obama did not in his first term either. | ||
| He didn't do it until the second half of his term because there is political blowback from doing that. | ||
| There is a very large, influential Iran hawk fascism. | ||
| Faction both in the Republican Party and also in the Democrat Party. | ||
| And so it does come at a cost of political capital, but it's a huge boon to other sets of donors who would make multi-billion dollar profits from doing so. | ||
| And so there is this tension where you want to time that political action to where there's nothing they can really do to you at the end. | ||
| It's almost like a pardon list. | ||
| This happened in 2015, for example, under Obama, but he had been working on it for seven years. | ||
| And so they've been trying to sort of do a Iran deal 2.0. | ||
| But I think part of the problem was, is in doing that, it would send a lot of folks more to the Trump camp who were on the fence about Trump because now they're existentially threatened around this Iran situation. | ||
| But what they've done is they've allowed China to circumvent that. | ||
| And I think that they would do so in a second term or in a Harris term. | ||
| Harris is her short list of national security advisors and National Security Council folks seem like they would want to enter into an Iran deal. | ||
| So it seems like the Israeli government is concerned with either the blob forcing Kamala into office or Likely that sounds what they're afraid of. | ||
| That they're afraid that either she's going to win legitimately or disingenuously somehow that she's going to arrive in office and then sign a new Iran deal. | ||
| So they're getting in now before... | ||
| Right. | ||
| But remember, they don't even need to sign it at this point for a lot of this damage to accumulate. | ||
| Iran has already, you know, 20xed its economy versus the Trump years. | ||
| Because remember, not only did Trump get rid of the Iran deal, he also put massive, massive, massive sanctions on all. | ||
| This is the maximum pressure policy that Trump instituted. | ||
| Biden took a huge amount of that back. | ||
| If you remember earlier in the news cycle from about a year and a half ago, two years ago, Biden lifted sanctions, got $8 billion directly to the Iranian government that Trump had held under freeze. | ||
| So Iran has been able to economically thrive under the Biden-Harris White House, even without the Iran deal 2.0. | ||
| But if that were to go through, that would 100x multifold the problem from Israel's perspective. | ||
| And do you think the Israeli then government doesn't, a lot of people, this is all another conspiracy conversation, but just doesn't have that much influence over the blob? | ||
| I think it's a multifactional dispute that's constantly in flux. | ||
| I think one of the things that the Iran deal exposed was NATO won that side of the equation in that fight in 2015. | ||
| There's a constant negotiation. | ||
| There's the China lobby folks. | ||
| There's the Qatar lobby folks. | ||
| There's the UAE lobby folks. | ||
| There's the Israel lobby folks. | ||
| There's the British lobby folks. | ||
| Nina Jankovic, for example, is the head of our disinformation governance board. | ||
| It's now a registered foreign agent for the United Kingdom, for the British Crown. | ||
| So everyone is always constantly competing with each other on this. | ||
| And in some industries, certain lobbies are more influential than in others. | ||
| In the military space, some loom larger. | ||
| In certain commercial industries, others loom larger. | ||
| So it's a big multi-stakeholder thing. | ||
| Let's jump to this next one. | ||
| We got this from the Post Millennial. | ||
| Chinese hackers target phones of Trump and Vance. | ||
| This is getting crazy. | ||
| The hacker has reportedly targeted the phones of Trump and Vance as they've been campaigning for Election Day. | ||
| According to the New York Times, the hackers are believed to have gotten deep into American communications data and targeted information from the phones of Trump and Vance. | ||
| We didn't hear that three times. | ||
| According to the Times, people familiar with the matter told reporters about the Chinese hackers on Friday, and investigators are working to determine what information they were able to pick up from the phones, if any. | ||
| The Trump campaign was made aware of the hackers this week. | ||
| Information on the phones of Trump and Vance may have data that could potentially put the national security of the United States at risk, as the hacker may be able to obtain contacts, phone calls, and text messages sent and received from Trump as well as Vance. | ||
| I don't know how much I care. | ||
| I mean, I care a bit about us being attacked by, say, an adversary like China. | ||
| But this just sounds like, you know, I'll just say it. | ||
| Everything before the election is just muddy garbage to me. | ||
| As if China's not been trying to do this with all government officials forever. | ||
| How encrypted of a phone is he using? | ||
| Is he using standard phone or is he using something? | ||
| Oh, it's probably an iPhone. | ||
| Okay, so what I want to know is if they can get in there and find Donald Trump's Twitter drafts. | ||
| That's what I want to know. | ||
| I want to see the tweets he didn't ever put out. | ||
| It's probably crazy. | ||
| That's where Covfefe comes from. | ||
| Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. | ||
| He's got tweets from like 2017. | ||
| Look, I don't like China, but if they could publish that, that'd be fantastic. | ||
| Yeah, I just feel like all the news right now is just nothing. | ||
| It's just they're all trying to do things. | ||
| Can I go to bed until the 11th? | ||
| I mean, for 11 days? | ||
| See, I can't even think straight. | ||
| Go to bed until the 5th. | ||
| By the way, I don't believe this for a second. | ||
| Well, you don't believe China's trying to hack the United States? | ||
| No, I don't think that. | ||
| I think it's the inverse. | ||
| I think China's likely hacked everybody. | ||
| They probably got access to your phone information. | ||
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| Well, we know that, for example, the NSA reads Tucker Carlson's signal messages. | ||
| You don't think they're reading Donald Trump's? | ||
| Yeah, of course they are. | ||
| And then if China hacks the NSA, they're going to have all of that too. | ||
| The problem is, is after Vault 7, how can you look at any of this without a critical eye? | ||
| What do you mean critical eye? | ||
| What I mean is false attribution for hacking attacks is 101. | ||
| You think China's not hacking us? | ||
| I don't know in this case, but it's very possible that it could be a US-based network that simply leaves a false attribution trail. | ||
| Let's just start from the beginning. | ||
| Do you think China is using hackers to target Americans? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| That's why I'm like, this story is nothing. | ||
| It's like, thing happened. | ||
| That thing that happens every day for the past 15 years is still happening. | ||
| Right, but I don't accept the premise of this article. | ||
| I agree that in a hypothetical case, it's certainly possible. | ||
| But simply seeing this, when I see this being reported without the receipts, show me how you came to that determination. | ||
| I need more detail than that. | ||
| Without revealing sources and methods for whatever the classified process would be for making those digital forensic determinations, I need more color than just someone from China did it. | ||
| Because the problem is, is we know from Julian Assange that pocket Putin is a core capacity of the U.S. intelligence hacking syndicate. | ||
| That is false attribution. | ||
| When the U.S. hacks someone's phone, hacks their TV, hacks their microwave or toaster, we can leave fingerprints for false attribution. | ||
| That's what you always do, by the way. | ||
| And so just because at the top level you have some VPN piping in from Shanghai, that does not a Shanghai hacker make... | ||
| You said it's called Vault 7? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is that the name of the leak from Assange? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think the same thing with rockets being fired from a foreign country. | ||
| For all I know, they could have been put there by the country that wants to be fired on. | ||
| So the question then becomes, why bother trusting or distrusting any country if they all do it and we don't know which is which? | ||
| I think more is, I think that the public needs to demand much more robust reporting when it comes to cyber activity than what they're being fed. | ||
| Because hacking is a totally classified realm. | ||
| You are either a hacker for the CIA, the NSA, or the FBI, or you are a felon. | ||
| That's the only two jobs in town for hacking. | ||
| It's either massively illegal, and you're going to prison for 20 years, or you're working for U.S. intelligence. | ||
| And so lay civilians— Well, there's pen testing. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| There's pen testing. | ||
| Yeah, sure. | ||
| I mean, there's—you know, you can be, I guess, and also a private consultant doing vulnerability— Yeah, penetration testing. | ||
| You're talking about black hat hacking? | ||
| No, penetration testing. | ||
| You're talking about white hat hacking. | ||
| I mean, yes, technically. | ||
| So I would say that when you're working for the intelligence agencies and you're working for these contractors, my friends never called that white or black hat. | ||
| We called that green. | ||
| Money. | ||
| The White Hat stuff is like you work for a private company and you get hired as a cybersecurity company and they'll say, we're going to shore up your security. | ||
| We're going to try and keep it as – we're trying to get as minimal weight as possible so your employees have easy access to everything without being too cumbersome. | ||
| And then we're going to do a few penetration tests and see if we can break your security and explain where you guys were weak. | ||
| That's run-of-the-mill everyday stuff that you might find a small business doing of like two or three guys. | ||
| And that's probably the majority of quote-unquote hacking. | ||
| There's a lot of social engineering manipulation and con artistry stuff, but they call that hacking and it's basically just a con artist. | ||
| Someone tricked you into paying them out because, you know... | ||
| A guy said, oh, look, my car broke down and I need 50 bucks for gas. | ||
| It's a con, right? | ||
| Social engineering is the same thing, but over the phone, over the internet. | ||
| Then you have the government stuff, which is, you know, my French is called that green hat. | ||
| You work for the company that's going to pay you the most to do things that are kind of, you know. | ||
| And then, of course, there's gray hat, but these terms are just getting silly now. | ||
| Gray hat is like activists that are doing hacking and infiltration for, like, for, you know, the people who leak to WikiLeaks, for instance. | ||
| Many of them may be gray hat hackers. | ||
| Exfiltrating data, not legal, but they're doing it for a political cause, which is, eh, and then they leak it to somebody or something. | ||
| So are you insinuating that the black hat or the green hat hacking is either highly illegal or it's a government? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Illegal stuff is black hat. | ||
| Breaking into a database and steal credit cards is black hat hacking. | ||
| Unless the government's doing it. | ||
| We make fun of the contractors working for governments as green hats because they're just going for the big fat military checks. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| What I'm getting at here specifically is this is not good enough for me anymore. | ||
| It wasn't good enough for me years ago. | ||
| Now I assign zero credibility to this. | ||
| When you see a news report that comes out and says the sky was blue yesterday, you as a civilian can easily decide whether or not you were being lied to because you went outside yesterday and it didn't look green. | ||
| It looked blue. | ||
| It's the same thing, for example, if the media reports that a projectile missile fell on Greensboro, North Carolina, there's going to be a picture of the indent in the earth. | ||
| There's going to be eyewitness testimony. | ||
| There's going to be lots of ways where you say, okay, that probably happened. | ||
| I don't think the AI deepfaked all this stuff. | ||
| But then are you just saying that because we got leaks about the U.S. and not about China, you're more inclined to believe the U.S. is doing bad but disregard things that China may be doing? | ||
| What I'm saying is how easy is it if you wanted to hack Donald Trump's phone because you are a rogue cell at NSA or a rogue cell at DHS or a rogue cell like Peter Strzok and co. | ||
| at FBI Counterintelligence and you want to delegate it to a foreign contractor with no look, we're not going to look. | ||
| And they do that, it would be the easiest thing in the world for that to just be a compartmentalized, classified operation, and they just have the contract at the end, put a little false... | ||
| But you're not making an argument as to why that is. | ||
| Now they get to read Trump's phones. | ||
| Yes, I am. | ||
| The argument is that they want to read Donald Trump's phone. | ||
| And they can simply say that China did it. | ||
| Does China want to read Trump's phone? | ||
| Sure, but that... | ||
| So right now we're at a moot point. | ||
| No, we're literally at a point where you're just like, we know the U.S. government does bad, therefore I don't trust this story. | ||
| And I'm like, give me some evidence, bro. | ||
| I know the U.S. government does bad. | ||
| Give me some evidence. | ||
| China hacked the phone. | ||
| Our evidence right now is the post-millennial said. | ||
| That's a singular story. | ||
| So why, well, it's actually, they're citing New York Times. | ||
| Well, let's pull up the New York Times article and let's see what proof, show me the math. | ||
| You're conflating two different things. | ||
| There's a question about the subject at hand, this particular story. | ||
| There is no reason for anyone to make any assertion of who did it outside of the statement made is that China did a thing. | ||
| Okay, that's it. | ||
| To say then it is that the US government could do it. | ||
| Therefore, I don't believe this for a second. | ||
| It's like... | ||
| Okay, well, anyone could have done it. | ||
| But right now, the statement is China did it. | ||
| Do we have evidence? | ||
| Limited to none. | ||
| So in that case, we have nothing. | ||
| There's no point in bringing up that you don't like the U.S. government hacking and doing bad things. | ||
| We don't have evidence China did it. | ||
| Your evidence is that the New York Times said it? | ||
| As I said, limited to none. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But what I'm saying is it was true yesterday that China hacks American devices and has an obvious interest in hacking Donald Trump's. | ||
| It was true a year ago. | ||
| It was true 10 years ago. | ||
| But this news cycle just broke. | ||
| And I need more proof in that, given how CISA was turned into a cyber censorship unit, because they said tweets on the Internet containing misinformation are a cyber threat or cyber threat actors in our attacks on the critical infrastructure of our elections. | ||
| If you tweet that mail in ballots are not reliable. | ||
| This is one of the most corrupt wings of the U.S. government, and it operates in the most cloak cover of darkness. | ||
| And so when I see a news story from the New York Times, who simultaneously publishes that we need to torch the U.S. Constitution and who lied us into the Iraq War, I do not immediately accept the premise unless they show me the math. | ||
| And what I think the American public needs to demand on all things digital and all things digital forensics and hacking is we need a higher standard of reporting for this to pass the smell test. | ||
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| I agree. | ||
| The issue I brought up was with you then diverting to saying, Vault 7, the U.S. government, their apparatus, they could do this, they have a better reason to do it, and they want to know what's on Trump's phone, as if to imply the real story is that the U.S. government hacked Trump's phone. | ||
| No, I didn't imply that that was the case. | ||
| I implied I don't believe this because that's equally likely to. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So then we don't need to talk about what the U.S. government can or can't do in this context. | ||
| We have a story about Chinese hacking. | ||
| We don't believe it. | ||
| We can move on. | ||
| It's nice to think about false flag, digital false flags. | ||
| It is. | ||
| Because I've literally, I mentioned it earlier, I'm concerned with like foreign, like putting missiles in another country and having them fired on you. | ||
| So you can be like, they fired on me. | ||
| Like, how deep does it go? | ||
| Does the CIA do that kind of thing? | ||
| Has there been evidence that they've literally gone into a foreign country, set up rockets and fired on themselves to be like, they're firing on us? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, certainly we, you know, the Stuxnet capacities and... | ||
| I mean, we literally hacked North Korea's missile launch tests in order to, you know, make them be ineffective. | ||
| That's been publicly reported. | ||
| But I'm not saying that... | ||
| I mean, that would be a step that I've never heard of before. | ||
| Is the argument this is to drum up anti-China sentiment among the American population? | ||
| No, not necessarily. | ||
| I just... | ||
| You know, a lot of times... | ||
| I mean, I don't think we have a real point of disagreement here. | ||
| I was just providing color on my reaction to seeing the article. | ||
| Like, I agree with what you said about, you know, China obviously having a robust hacking capacity and hacking American devices and that they would have an interest in doing so. | ||
| The larger point that I was making here is that when I see this article in the New York Times and I don't see math attached to it, here's how they made this determination. | ||
| Without revealing sources and methods, I need more than someone said. | ||
| Sure, but they never do that. | ||
| But that's what I'm getting at, is that they can get away with these news cycles without the American people ever questioning, hey, how. | ||
| Oh yeah, I agree. | ||
| That's immediate racism. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| But you do watch in some fields as credibility drops out. | ||
| There is a higher standard for meeting the public skepticism about things. | ||
| And I'm simply demanding that in these cyber hacking cases. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So this is the story that we have so far is New York Times says sources claim Trump and Vance, as well as many Democrats, but they use Trump and Vance in the lead. | ||
| This is the weirdest thing, too. | ||
| They say that Democrats, including Kamala Harris's campaign and prominent figures on Capitol Hill, Chuck Schumer, were also targeted, but the headline is Trump and Vance. | ||
| And they don't name a single official. | ||
| No one is accountable to this story. | ||
| An official who cited it? | ||
| Well, they say officials. | ||
| Well, who are the officials? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| They never have any... | ||
| So no one is actually responsible. | ||
| But then the question is, what is the intention of the New York Times to get clicks to make money? | ||
| There's not much substance to the story. | ||
| It would then be, I suppose, if it's a fake story, to drum up sentiment against China. | ||
| Maybe because we're going to engage in a war with Taiwan at some point and they want the American people to be mad at China. | ||
| That's one of several possibilities, I think. | ||
| Yeah, that could be a double win. | ||
| I mean, there's lots of possibilities, but if a local American company hacked and then blamed it on a foreigner, not only do you get the data, but you get the enemy to get hated. | ||
| Did they list Kamala Harris in that as well? | ||
| I thought I saw that farther down. | ||
| Her campaign. | ||
| Maybe the idea is that by listing Trump and Vance, it makes them look more unstable as if they're targeting them specifically, even if they don't name them. | ||
| Insecure. | ||
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| But here's the thing. | ||
| They're obviously reading Trump's communications. | ||
| They want to know if he's back-channeling. | ||
| We just lived through Russiagate 1.0, 2.0, 3.0. | ||
| They want to know, you know, hey, was there any text message to somebody who's a Russian oligarch or a back-channel or an interlocutor? | ||
| If it is, then we nailed them, boys. | ||
| And we're going to... | ||
| I mean, they just, what, two days ago, they say Elon Musk was texting with Vladimir Putin. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Again, another one of these... | ||
| How did they get that? | ||
| Keith Olbermann said to arrest him. | ||
| Was Elon... | ||
| First of all, I don't even know if that's true, but if you assume it's true... | ||
| The Olbermann thing? | ||
| No, no, no, I mean... | ||
| I'm kidding. | ||
| How did they get the text with Vladimir Putin? | ||
| Except by hacking the phone. | ||
| Unless Elon personally showed the phone. | ||
| Again, that's accepting the truth of it. | ||
| Elon's not weighed in on it, and I'm reserving judgment. | ||
| But the fact is, is they want to know... | ||
| Both for national security reasons, for counterintelligence, but also for political operations purposes. | ||
| That can be used to generate a treason trial, a counterintelligence probe, a special prosecutor. | ||
| And it would be very easy for them to put a little boop, a little button on it at the end, a little false attribution that says, oh, you know what? | ||
| Your phone's been tampered with. | ||
| Darn, the Chinese did it. | ||
| Darn, the Iranians did. | ||
| Darn, the Russians, the Venezuelans. | ||
| And so I need more than totally anonymous, zero accountability from the government for me to think that this is clean. | ||
| Do they ever go so far as to be like, hey, we found a text of you texting with a foreign official, and you're like, no, that's not mine. | ||
| They're like, look, we have the records, and they just forged the records? | ||
| I don't know of any cases like that, but... | ||
| Is that within the capability of technology? | ||
| There was the, I believe it was Kevin Clinesmith, right? | ||
| Oh, well, wasn't that the FISA? Oh, yeah, yeah, right. | ||
| There was an email where he doctored evidence to get the FISA warrant. | ||
| How did they find out that it had been doctored? | ||
| There was an investigation in the Russia Gain investigation. | ||
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Oh, no, no. | |
| It was... | ||
| Durham? | ||
| Yeah, the Durham report. | ||
| They investigated what led to the warrants and they found that this lawyer, he was an FBI lawyer, right? | ||
| Yeah, I think so. | ||
| He removed information from an email that showed, I believe it was, it's been a long time, Carter Page was an informant for, was it the CIA or was it for the FBI? Yeah. | ||
| I forget. | ||
| He was a federal informant. | ||
| He's working for the government. | ||
| He's also providing information on other people. | ||
| And Clinesmith wanted to get a FISA warrant, so he lied and said, this is just some guy doing bad things, when in reality he was doing things for the government. | ||
| They got the FISA warrant. | ||
| They went after him. | ||
| This was how they were trying to get Trump. | ||
| It's probably part of that what you called transitional – what did you call it? | ||
| Transitional justice, yeah. | ||
| They were like, we're going to arrest this guy. | ||
| We need means to do it. | ||
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Right. | |
| I believe Clinesmith ended up getting prosecuted, but what did he get, like a slap on the wrist? | ||
| Yeah, they watered it down to basically nothing from what I recall. | ||
| This is what always happens. | ||
| When malfeasance is discovered, some random guy you've never heard of takes the fall for it and gets some slap on the wrist. | ||
| Peter Strzok, didn't Peter Strzok get a multi-million dollar settlement suing the Justice Department for being mean to him? | ||
| He probably did. | ||
| If you look it up, Peter Strzok, Settlement Millions. | ||
| What's her face? | ||
| Who's the woman? | ||
| Lisa Page? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Peter Strzok. | ||
| How do you spell that? | ||
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S-T-R-Z-O-K. Is that how you pronounce it? | |
| That was the guy who... | ||
| Trump won't win, will he, to the FBI lawyer? | ||
| He's the head of counterintelligence for the FBI. He's the insurance plan. | ||
| The Fed settles privacy claim by an FBI agent and lawyer with early roles in Trump Russia probe. | ||
| How much money did they end up paying Peter Strzok? | ||
| I'm looking here. | ||
| So what, they threw Strzok out of the bus and then paid him back? | ||
| No. | ||
| It's in the millions. | ||
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We'll figure it out later, I suppose. | |
| We're going to go to Super Chat. | ||
| So if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with everyone you know, leave us a good review if you're listening on Apple Podcasts or wherever it is you get your podcasts, and become a member at TimCast.com. | ||
| Because the Josh Siter, fake trans social experiment video behind the scenes is live now on the website. | ||
| And I also want to give a shout out to our good friend, Don Lemon, who called me extreme. | ||
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I don't think it says... | |
| That was the funniest thing. | ||
| I was actually kind of surprised he did. | ||
| He was interviewing a guy who said that he was voting for Trump and that he gets his news from Rogan, Tim Pool, and Crowder. | ||
| And then he says, but I don't really follow the extreme people like Andrew Tate. | ||
| And then Lemon goes, Tim Pool's a little extreme, isn't he? | ||
| And he's like, oh, I don't know. | ||
| Maybe I don't really listen to that much because he's doing more clickbait, I guess. | ||
| So, you know. | ||
| And I was like, well, buddy. | ||
| If you listen to this show more often, you might have had a coherent answer for our friend Don Lemon because everyone's ragging on the dude because he got asked about why he's voting for Trump. | ||
| And he said, the economy and immigration and... | ||
| So you gotta watch more TimCast, dude. | ||
| Maybe you'd be better versed. | ||
| Better versed. | ||
| But I appreciate the shout-out. | ||
| And Don Lemon. | ||
| We should have him on the show. | ||
| But it's funny that Don Lemon said... | ||
| It's funny because the replies to Don Lemon, like, are you kidding? | ||
| Tim Pool, the milquetoast guy, is extreme? | ||
| You're nuts! | ||
| Yeah, yeah, well, you know. | ||
| All right, here we go. | ||
| Scooby Dragon says, howdy, people. | ||
| Howdy, indeed. | ||
| Hey, Scooby. | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| Yeah, the problem is Don Lemon gets his news from CNN, so... | ||
| He gives the news to CNN. You can tell he's questioning those, isn't he? | ||
| I actually feel sorry for CNN. Now they fired the guy. | ||
| All right, what do we got? | ||
| What do we got? | ||
| Joan says, hey, Tim and crew, member for about a year now. | ||
| Just want to say thanks for all you do. | ||
| Really do appreciate it. | ||
| Join the fun over on the Discord server. | ||
| If you want to hang out with people who think largely like you... | ||
| You go to timcast.com, click join us, become a member, 10 bucks a month, get in that Discord server. | ||
| We're actually going to be in there tonight. | ||
| We're going to be doing a little after show tonight. | ||
| This is the weekend lock-off show with Raymond G. Stanley. | ||
| He's going to help put me in touch, so I'll be on later. | ||
| Maybe you want to yell at Ian because you don't like him and think he's wrong. | ||
| Well, here's your chance. | ||
| And maybe you love me. | ||
| You want to tell me that. | ||
| Maybe you're his biggest fan and you want to say that you love him. | ||
| You just feel different about him on different days. | ||
| Some days you love him, some days you want to yell at him. | ||
| I feel about myself, man. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Award-winning taint. | ||
| Is that what it says? | ||
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Whoa. | |
| Tim, like me, you have been given the greatest award ever. | ||
| A child. | ||
| I wish her great health and strong moral character like yourself. | ||
| Thank you very much, sir. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| I've heard that username in the PCC chat before. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| Who is it? | ||
|
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Who is it? | |
| He's gonna make you say it again. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Pardon me. | ||
| I do think it's kind of funny to consider that, you know, I meet people and they say, I feel like I know you because I listen to you for hours every day, but you don't know who I am. | ||
| And I'm like, that is correct. | ||
| So it's kind of weird that every day, Monday through Friday and the weekends, we have clips up. | ||
| When my kid grows up, it's like, would you like to see an eight-year account of my life? | ||
| Actually, how about this? | ||
| You can literally listen to what I was thinking about every day from the moment you were born until today. | ||
| And that's kind of wild. | ||
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So epic. | |
| Well, then you got to start like a separate podcast. | ||
| You don't even have to actually post it talking about other interests because this is narrower in focus, right? | ||
| It's also boonies. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it's just like – so that's what you were thinking about on that day. | ||
| It's kind of – you know what's really crazy is that we actually have – we have robotic perfect recall now. | ||
| I mean I do. | ||
| I can't speak for you guys. | ||
| But me doing this show Monday through Friday – I can be like, I wonder what I was talking about on February 3rd, you know, 2021. | ||
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And I can pull up the episode and go, oh yeah. | |
| That's crazy. | ||
| That's the day that Ian put that paper towel in the toilet and got it clogged. | ||
| Then went down there with face first. | ||
| I remember that day. | ||
| Yeah, Phil, you remember that day. | ||
| Alright, here we go. | ||
| What do we got here? | ||
| Biden body double says, Ian was gone for a while. | ||
| I was like, where's Ian? | ||
| Now that he's back, I'm like, I don't care about the crown and the constant diversion of conversation. | ||
| Hey, you brought it up. | ||
| Tars talking about empire. | ||
| I'm glad you're here. | ||
| He sounded really happy at first, and then at the end, he's like, yeah, stop talking about the crown. | ||
| He's just negative, bro. | ||
| He's into it. | ||
| So do you think MI6 and the CIA are controlling the crown at this point? | ||
| That's not in the super chat, right? | ||
| That's a serious question in the end, though. | ||
| All right, Twisty says, was listening to the culture war, and I'll just say this, that most of the road truck drivers can't afford a home on the wages we get as truck drivers. | ||
| I personally would not be able to afford a home, car, and basic bills on the pay I get now. | ||
| So there's a simple equation. | ||
| It's kind of a useless equation. | ||
| But if the cost of acquiring water ever exceeds the amount a person gets paid for a job, you'll get a revolution in two seconds. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| main source of water and another country starts doing things to the water war because it's like hey downstream we're dying you're putting poison in our water we have no choice so we usually don't see uh water conflict in terms of i can't afford to get water to my home people just leave and go find water somewhere else but uh it's a that's why i said it's largely useless but the general idea is there if a required resource becomes too difficult to obtain through work people will begin to act violent to obtain such a resource. | ||
| Well, that's why what I've always said whenever people talk about civil war, from the Luddite perspective, it's like, wouldn't it be more common to believe that that will happen once food shortages happen? | ||
| That's what happens. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| People are too comfortable now. | ||
| So the Arab Spring, they attribute the cost of food largely to what sparks off the Arab Spring. | ||
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Right. | |
| That's why U.S. sanctions policy is designed to create famine. | ||
| Literally, I think there's an assistant secretary in the Biden administration. | ||
| I know that Max Blumenthal and the Gray Zone folks reported on this, basically stipulating that the State Department and USAID, they see the goal of sanctions policy to create that exact equation that Tim just teed up. | ||
| There's a regime that we want to throw out power. | ||
| They did this, for example, in Syria with Assad. | ||
| They strafed the wheat fields. | ||
| They bombed the wheat fields so that there was less grain production in order to increase hunger, in order to get more Syrians on the streets to overthrow the Assad government because of the inaccessibility of food. | ||
| Cameron Giotto says, I was thinking about this today. | ||
| The past eight years we have been living in a new Red Scare McCarthyism, but against those seen as conservative rather than communist. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You mean sort of, yeah. | ||
| CWOD says, I'm flying back home from Ukraine just to make sure I can vote in person. | ||
| This election is too important. | ||
| Congrats, Tim. | ||
| God bless you and yours. | ||
| Phil, you the best. | ||
| Cheers, man. | ||
| What are you doing in Ukraine? | ||
| Welcome home, man. | ||
| In the West, huh? | ||
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Welcome back, CWOD. See Watts. | |
| Oh. | ||
| See what? | ||
| Is it Quats? | ||
| See Watts. | ||
| Thanks, man. | ||
| Samuel Rice says, I legit emailed Timcast last week to have Benz on. | ||
| And we listened. | ||
| That's exactly how it went down. | ||
| I swear it was just for you. | ||
| He pulled up the email himself and said, book him now. | ||
| It's actually me. | ||
| I super chatted that. | ||
| It worked. | ||
| Tom Wolfe says, spread the word. | ||
| Any illegals or non-citizens that vote in this election could be immediately arrested on site and deported. | ||
| It's technically true. | ||
| No, it's literally true. | ||
| Trump said it. | ||
| Trump said that they're going to arrest people who are violating the law when it comes to elections. | ||
| He said, you better watch out. | ||
| You better not cry because Trump is coming to arrest you. | ||
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That's right. | |
| All right, here we go. | ||
| Sean H. says, a Virginia judge just said, it's illegal to remove illegals from the ballot. | ||
| The governor is trying to get an injunction, but let's face it, the Democrats run the system. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Well, I kind of think, it's fascinating that we live in a society where when Democrats break the rules, Republicans go, no! | ||
| What? | ||
| Yeah, nothing ever changes. | ||
| The governor can issue an executive order right now saying no. | ||
| And then require them to go get an injunction. | ||
| And then when they do, he can do what Cuomo did. | ||
| He's go, okay, let me draft another one. | ||
| No again. | ||
| Here you go. | ||
| Go get another injunction. | ||
| The election's in 11 days. | ||
| He can just do it. | ||
| But they love to write sternly worded letters to him. | ||
| Cuomo... | ||
| It spoils down to the, I think it was Andrew Jackson, or maybe it was Andrew Jackson, but he said, you know, the Chief Justice has made his ruling, now let him enforce it. | ||
| You know, the Supreme Court made a ruling, and I think it was Andrew Jackson that said, you know, I'm going to ignore your ruling and do what I want to do. | ||
| Like, at some level... | ||
| That is like a possibility. | ||
| As long as there are forces or whether it be the Justice Department or, you know, direct action forces that are going to listen to whoever's giving the order, it doesn't matter what the courts say. | ||
| Yeah, it's just crazy because we've totally lost rule of law in this country with what... | ||
| Merrick Garland's gangster justice department does like the same institution that is telling you you need to have illegal voters on your voting rolls is the same institution who can effectively legally assassinate you. | ||
| By destroying your life if you are in the political crosshairs of the administration. | ||
| Who wants to be on the bad side of Merrick Garland? | ||
| Oh, is it live? | ||
| I'm just going to hold up my phone. | ||
| Hey! | ||
| Which is right now just showing Joe Rogan talking to someone on his show. | ||
| Ooh, I wonder who he's talking to. | ||
| I wonder who he's talking to right now. | ||
| That looks like an interesting show. | ||
| And I'm just going to wait for a second. | ||
| We're just going to wait because we're just... | ||
| All you can see is a little tiny Joe Rogan waving his hand around. | ||
| I wonder what's on about. | ||
| He's talking somebody's ear off. | ||
| Maybe he's talking to Ian. | ||
| Five minutes ago and it's 46k views already. | ||
| Oh, there it is! | ||
| That was Donald Trump. | ||
| Whoa, he looks good. | ||
| People listening. | ||
| Trump scare? | ||
| Indeed, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Oh, there it is again. | ||
|
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Look at that. | |
| Oh, they're live right now. | ||
| The episode's up. | ||
| The whole episode is now live, and I'm going to sit here and watch the concurrent viewers start dropping as we wind up. | ||
| I was going to go on Discord. | ||
| I still feel committed. | ||
| It's three hours long. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Three hours. | ||
| 10 p.m. | ||
| on a Friday. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah, that's kind of insane. | ||
| Why do that? | ||
| It's great for credibility, though, because it shows they can't have edited it. | ||
| They put it out right away. | ||
| It's as close to live as you can basically get. | ||
| And they're not trying to maximize views by waiting to... | ||
| But it's not about that. | ||
| It risks burying the story. | ||
| I guess the idea is because it's three hours. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But the idea is that come Monday, there's going to be newsrooms slating stories, and they're going to pre-write, and they're going to schedule, and then come Monday, it's going to go up. | ||
| I feel like for Donald Trump and Joe Rogan, Joe Rogan gets great viewership anyways, and for Donald Trump, it's like there's no burying the story, and there's no... | ||
| It doesn't matter when you put it out. | ||
| The people that want to listen are going to listen. | ||
| People are going to cover it. | ||
| It'll be all over the news Monday. | ||
| Probably have people doing special reports on it this weekend. | ||
| I will be... | ||
| YouTube.com slash TimCastNews. | ||
| Subscribe now. | ||
| Saturday, which is tomorrow, I will be here and I will likely have several segments commenting on, or I'll probably just do one big one commenting on the show and my thoughts on it and what Trump said. | ||
| There's probably going to be many an article written about it. | ||
| And so tomorrow morning, again, subscribe. | ||
| YouTube.com slash TimCastNews for your post-Rogan Trump interview commentary from Tim Paul. | ||
| Are you going to watch it tonight? | ||
| Power watch it? | ||
| As soon as the show's over, I'm putting it up on the TV. That's awesome. | ||
| I can't imagine anyone's going to want to miss this one. | ||
|
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Yeah, I know. | |
| I'm right. | ||
| Look, I could have waited and just not said anything, because now I'm watching the viewers go down. | ||
| I guess we could watch it on Discord together. | ||
| I was going to go on Discord. | ||
| That might be a fun thing to do. | ||
| How about this, guys? | ||
| A watch-along. | ||
| Yeah, we'll do a watch-along party for those on the Discord. | ||
| So go to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member, and we'll watch the show, which basically means we're going to say, hey, everybody, we're starting the show now. | ||
| We're not going to broadcast it. | ||
| You guys played at home, and we can all hang out in the chat while we're talking about the show and what's going on. | ||
| That's a good idea. | ||
| I wonder how we can get it. | ||
| I want to sit on a couch. | ||
| I'm going to fall asleep. | ||
| What time is this? | ||
| It's almost 10 o'clock. | ||
| How can you stop spoilers? | ||
| It's like a three-hour movie. | ||
| If you start an hour behind the other people in the Discord, you don't want to be like, oh, that part, Trump believes in aliens, dude, what? | ||
| You don't want anything to get spoken over, too. | ||
| The only part I want to see is when Trump smokes the weed. | ||
| Oh, no, I forgot. | ||
| Sorry, spoilers, guys, spoilers. | ||
| Oh, you already saw it. | ||
| Yeah, apparently Trump does ayahuasca. | ||
| Badass. | ||
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He just, halfway through the show, he's like, we're gonna do DMT, Joe! | |
| Let's go! | ||
| And Joe's like, let's roll. | ||
| The veil is lifted. | ||
| Alex Jones cameo, what? | ||
| So the reporting right now is that Kamala was in discussions and there's two rumors circulating that one, she said it was a scheduled conflict, can't do it. | ||
| The other, the other rumor is that she asked for certain restrictions and Joe refused. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Trump said, you can talk about whatever you want, I don't care. | ||
| And Kamala was like, we don't want to talk about these things. | ||
| And Joe was like, nope. | ||
| I believe the second one. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| You have to ask these 35 questions. | ||
| You can't go on script. | ||
| I'm willing to bet that Kamala's team said, we don't want to talk about 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5. | ||
| And then Joe was like, no. | ||
| Dude, it's a three-hour conversation. | ||
| We're going to talk about whatever comes up. | ||
| How weird would it be if you say we can't talk about the border crisis and then a story comes up where we're talking and we're like, oh yeah, that woman who died, Lake and Riley, Better to change the subject. | ||
| How do you feel about rabbits? | ||
| I'm a fan of chickens. | ||
| It would be nonsense. | ||
| I wonder if Joe mentioned that tonight, or in the thing, if he talks to Trump about it, he was like, well, we're going to do it with Kamala, but she didn't want to because blah, blah, blah. | ||
| He has no reason to defend her. | ||
| He has no reason to protect her. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't think it's reasonable to say that Serge would want to stay here for three hours after the show. | ||
| But I'm not going to ask him. | ||
| I mean, that's what I'm doing anyways. | ||
| I don't know who's not going to watch this. | ||
| I can be stupid to not watch this. | ||
| Can we set up the TV out there to connect to the Discord? | ||
| I'm sure we can do it. | ||
| It would probably be like, we have to be on the Discord. | ||
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That's the issue. | |
| I know. | ||
| Nobody will be able to be silent. | ||
| Unless we took a phone. | ||
| Logged into the Discord. | ||
| Oh, you could do it. | ||
| Yeah, we could do that. | ||
| Yeah, that's a good point. | ||
| Anything about that? | ||
| Yeah, so we could plug a phone in, and then turn voice on, and all of us are just sitting around. | ||
| Yeah, I'll connect to the Discord with my phone when I pull my earbuds in, so I'll be able to talk. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I don't know if I could sit in this chair for another three hours. | ||
| Actually, no. | ||
| I mean, I could turn and put my feet up and then we could play it on the big screen. | ||
| You have a beautiful one out. | ||
|
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Oh! | |
| We got the movie screen! | ||
|
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Yeah, the projector, yeah. | |
| Yo! | ||
| Everyone knows how sick that is. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| So we just got it installed. | ||
| We've got a, I think it's a 25-foot projector screen on the back wall of the Boonies building. | ||
| And it's exactly for this. | ||
| This is going to be... | ||
| Should we order pizza? | ||
|
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Yeah, let's do it. | |
| I'm not doing anything else. | ||
| I'm hanging out. | ||
| I'm ready. | ||
| Let me go fire up a pot of coffee. | ||
| Maybe what we can do is we can like... | ||
| Can we point a camera? | ||
| Oh man, how can we do this? | ||
| We have the one on the air we could do. | ||
|
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We could do it. | |
| Like point the camera out? | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Something like that. | ||
| Set it up, point it at the couch where we're all hanging out. | ||
| Yeah, that's what I was thinking. | ||
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Towards the couch and get the feet of everyone that's in there towards... | |
| It'll be like Mystery Science Theater, you know, where it's like the shadow silhouettes watching the movie. | ||
| I think this will be the biggest podcast ever done. | ||
| Yeah, I think it's the biggest podcast. | ||
| It's what everyone's been begging for for, what, like 10 years? | ||
| Almost, maybe like, no, I think reasonably seven years. | ||
| 2016. | ||
| When people were like, yeah, we want to debate with Joe Rogan, and Joe Rogan's time in 2016 was big, but... | ||
| Because there was this tension, this flirtation. | ||
| Will they? | ||
| Won't they? | ||
| Will they? | ||
| Won't they? | ||
| Should I order pizza now? | ||
| It looked good, too. | ||
| Do you guys want pizza? | ||
| Who's sticking around for this? | ||
| I can't. | ||
| I've got a ketchup flight tomorrow. | ||
| I've literally got to go back to work. | ||
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Oh, damn. | |
| Is there on a watch? | ||
| I have a flight tomorrow, too, but I can watch at least an hour. | ||
| I'm in. | ||
| We've already got some pizzas in the fridge. | ||
| I pizzaed them up, yeah. | ||
| Some leftover. | ||
| I don't need more pizza. | ||
| I'll eat two slices. | ||
| See, here's the thing. | ||
| If I knew it was going to drop Friday night, I would have organized something. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I thought it was going to be like noon. | ||
| I thought it was going to wrap the culture war and we were going to sit down and watch it. | ||
| Do you think they were going to put it today? | ||
| Like earlier today or Monday? | ||
| That's what I thought. | ||
| They said Trump's sitting down with Rogan on Friday. | ||
| And so I asked this. | ||
| Is it he's doing the interview Friday and then it'll come out some other time? | ||
| I just assumed it was going to come out Monday. | ||
| Yeah, I'm surprised. | ||
| Nah, there's no time. | ||
| There's no time. | ||
| We're 11 days out. | ||
| A week and a half out, Rogan just interviewed Trump. | ||
| Oh, man! | ||
| Alright, so I'm going to stress this again. | ||
| We're going to figure it out. | ||
| Go to TimCast.com. | ||
| Click join us. | ||
| Become a member. | ||
| Discord party. | ||
| So we will be live in the Discord watching along with you probably what is going to be the most epic podcast in history. | ||
| Could you imagine if it's really boring? | ||
| I can't imagine. | ||
| The Theo Vaughn one was better. | ||
| Trump's hilarious though. | ||
| I can't imagine not being made for this. | ||
| Could you imagine Joe being like, do you think early monkeys were fighting with humans? | ||
| He's going to ask about JFK. That's what I want. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And aliens. | ||
| Roswell. | ||
| Trump appreciates the stakes of this, I think. | ||
| And he's going to want to be interesting and say something he hasn't said before just to give that something extra to the audience. | ||
| Trump knows show business, man. | ||
| One of my favorite moments from being on Joe's show was... | ||
| I think he asked me about aliens. | ||
| We're talking about aliens. | ||
| And I just said, the reason why we need a one world government is because the Galactic Federation will not induct Earth into the Federation until we are unified under one governing authority. | ||
| And Joe just goes, I don't think there's a Galactic Federation. | ||
| I was like, Joe, I'm joking. | ||
| I was like, I was just, okay, you know, I guess I'm not a funny guy. | ||
| I'm sorry, guys. | ||
| That interaction was funny. | ||
| It was. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| It was like the one time he was just deadpan serious. | ||
| I think he probably did that on purpose because he knew it was going to be funny. | ||
| It's always good to hang out with. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| We got a super chat from Napalm. | ||
| He says, Rogan, Trump just dropped. | ||
| Sorry, gotta go. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Beast out. | ||
| Pat the Plumber says, where is the YouTube play button for Pop Culture Crisis? | ||
| Asking since my hero Brett Desickwick is on tonight. | ||
| We reached out to Google, and I asked them, I was like, hey, Pop Culture Crisis is over 100,000. | ||
| We want to get the silver play button for Brett and Mary. | ||
| And they said, you have to submit to Google Help. | ||
| I did. | ||
| It's so funny, the fact that you're so not talking to a person. | ||
| Oh, I know. | ||
| It's a woman. | ||
| I believe her name was Alicia. | ||
| She was definitely not Alicia. | ||
| Well, I'll tell you how I did it last time. | ||
| So I searched my email for the link they sent me for my first play button, and then I just put in the name of my new channel, and then it worked. | ||
| I think they said that if it had gone through, that likely it would have gone to the junk folder and then been deleted from the email folder after like 30 days. | ||
| So just never get one? | ||
| You can order replicas on Amazon. | ||
| I'm about to do that. | ||
| Well, we'll just have to get you to a million subscribers. | ||
| Well, then you're going to have to use the weight and throw the weight. | ||
| I'm pretty sure if I go into my email and just search for it and get the link from like 2019 or whatever... | ||
| I can just type in Pop Culture Crisis and it'll go... | ||
| Because there's one link that links you to where you get the awards. | ||
| But now they're just little silver buttons. | ||
| They're not even... | ||
| No, no. | ||
| The thing is I got to fill out the form and they put us on to like... | ||
| It's like a request form where you have to get an email back and forth to the lady. | ||
| And they're like, yeah, we'll get back to you in like three months. | ||
| It's because when YouTube first started doing the play buttons, it was difficult to get to 100,000. | ||
| Now, it's like... | ||
| Inflation. | ||
| Yeah, and look at these kids on TikTok. | ||
| It's like after a month, they have 100,000. | ||
| So now they're just like, do we really have to give out these things? | ||
| That's why they're making them crappier and crappier. | ||
| Yeah, it's unfortunate. | ||
| All right, what do we got? | ||
| Aaron Coakley says, Illinois ballot question, should we allow civil suits for candidates assaulting poll workers? | ||
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What? | |
| All I can read is, should we allow civil suits for politicians objecting to election interference? | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| Michael Barnes says, ask Mike about Newland mentioning BioLabs and Rubio acting like that didn't happen. | ||
| That was so funny. | ||
| I mean, this is just an incredible moment of, you know, congressional hearings where I think Rubio asked Victoria Nuland about the presence of U.S. bio labs in Ukraine. | ||
| And I think he was, because this was a internet conspiracy theory that had been going viral throughout the week. | ||
| And it seemed, was it Rubio? | ||
| You asked Victoria Nuland live at a At a hearing. | ||
| And I think he expected the answer to be no. | ||
| And he was asking her to sort of put the rumor to bed once and for all. | ||
| And Victoria Noland... | ||
| I forget exactly how she put it, but she said, like, yes. | ||
| And... | ||
| Indicated that it was like quite extensive and kind of exactly what the internet was saying it was. | ||
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And the response was like to immediately shift the subject. | |
| But there was a great like shot, reverse shot reaction when that happened because you could see that it was almost like the defense lawyer said, You know, asking on examination of his client in front of the judge, like, a leading question that they rehearsed earlier, and the client just said the exact opposite thing of what they talked about. | ||
| And so you, like, quickly move to the next line of questioning. | ||
| I hope the judge didn't hear it. | ||
| Alright, I think we're getting close to the time, so why don't you guys smash that like button, subscribe to the channel, and share the show. | ||
| And this one's important, we're going to watch the, we are going to do the Joe Rogan Trump companion show, which means you guys can watch it on YouTube at the same time as we are, and we will be providing commentary on the side. | ||
| It's great, because then you can mute us whenever you want, and then unmute us when you want to hear us smack talk, or whatever it is. | ||
| So go to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member, and that will be up literally right after we wrap this. | ||
| It's going to be a lot of fun. | ||
| You can follow me on X and Instagram at TimCast. | ||
| Mike, do you want to shout anything out? | ||
| At Mike Ben Cyber on X. And hopefully I can join along for at least part of the TimCast experience of the Joe Rogan experience. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| Guys, X and Instagram at Brett Dasvick. | ||
| And please go check out Pop Culture Crisis. | ||
| Me and Mary are live Monday through Friday at 3 p.m. | ||
| Politics can be very depressing, very dour. | ||
| We have a lot of fun over there. | ||
| I think it's a great break from all of the stuff that's going on in the world. | ||
| We have a lot of fun. | ||
| And when you super chat, once you reach its $100, money guns fire and sirens go off. | ||
| Well, the money guns go off every time you super chat. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| The crisis party, you know, is triggered every hundred dollars, and every time you do that, it's very, very good. | ||
| We have a lot of fun. | ||
| And the money hits the guest in the face? | ||
| It happens to Phil all the time. | ||
| And we make Phil dance during the... | ||
| So there's a Trump song that plays every time there's a crisis party. | ||
| Eat the cat. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Make Phil do it. | ||
| Well, we make all the guests do it, and if they don't, I side-eye them. | ||
| If you would like to fire a money gun into Phil Labonte's face, go to popculturecrisis.com, subscribe, and watch so Monday through Friday, 3 p.m., right? | ||
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Yep. | |
| There you go. | ||
| Ian Crossland, that's where you find me. | ||
| YouTube, Twitch, and X. Follow me at Ian Crossland. | ||
| We had a lot of fun. | ||
| Hey, check my X account out, man. | ||
| Did some AI pictures, dude. | ||
| It is photorealistic artificial intelligence. | ||
| It looks like me on set, and I promise you this was not a picture of me from my last movie, but... | ||
| May as well have been. | ||
| It's shocking how powerful this AI is getting. | ||
| Check it out. | ||
| Ian Crossland. | ||
| See you later. | ||
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