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Thank you.
Pressing Tim.
tim pool
We're live.
phil labonte
How's it going?
tim pool
Okay, we're good then.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
Ladies and gentlemen, I'm a very lucky man.
I am in a relationship with a caring and beautiful man who has helped make this whole company possible.
Allison handles all of the heavy lifting to make everything here function cleanly, smoothly, and make it work.
And this has been one of the reasons why we take security very seriously and it is why we have been working as hard as we can to make sure everything operates.
It is that we, we're getting married and I'm having a child.
Thank you very much.
And this has been for some time now, I've just not said anything.
Additionally, working two full shifts and running a company makes it impossible to have done this years earlier.
and which is the constant conversation that we've had is when do we stop this so that we can actually have a family and live a normal life, I suppose?
Well, the answer is we can't.
We can't do everything that this company is doing.
I can't work 16 hours a day and take care of my wife and child.
The additional consideration is as the show gets larger and larger, hence some content reductions and things like that, security implications become a bit more severe, such as can we raise a family when we get swatted 15 times in one year and have crazy people in dresses showing up on our property beating up our employees?
It's very, very difficult.
With that being said, we come to a crisis point when we can't sustain all of these things at the same time.
I don't think any sane human being would be able to do it.
The amount of energy is just non-existent within a human being.
With that being said, we have talked about it, especially following the conversations we had last night, and we decided we'll keep doing this.
We will be reducing and restructuring the company so that it can be more manageable for our family plans.
I think we're good to go.
So I apologize for yesterday's show being as drawing as it was, but we didn't know if we wanted to announce this because the threats upon my life and what that may mean for my family.
But for all of you who are loyal viewers and who really do believe in the work that we do and the message that we received from all our members, we thought maybe we'll just figure out this restructuring, make everything run more smoothly, and then take the security implications with what that means as seriously as we can and and then take the security implications with what that means as seriously as we can and It's going to be very difficult.
But I think if we pursue outside administrative assistance, strategic investment, or some kind of external assistance, I think it will be manageable.
And so that's our intention right now, and this is why I was contemplating saying that yesterday may be the end of it.
We had been dealing with a lot of issues that are very difficult to deal with.
We've put off our dreams for a long time because we wanted to make this all work and because every time we miss an episode, there are so many people who rely on this show, who believe in it, who believe in me, that we feel an obligation and we feel guilt if we don't pursue that.
Well, when all the stress has come to a head, we finally make the decision.
Maybe we should just take care of ourselves and stop pushing as hard as we can to the point where our heads are going to explode and our eyes pop out of our heads.
And that's what happens yesterday when we're at a point where I don't want to put my family at risk.
And there's limited things I'm willing to say because of the psychopaths who threaten us every single day and the very serious threats that we do receive almost every single day.
But as I mentioned, we've talked about it.
We worked through as much as we can.
And I think largely due to the response from our loyal fans, members, viewers, and some friends and family, we will make it work to the best of our abilities.
So with that being said, it's kind of the weirdest way to announce that I'm pursuing my family life to the best of my abilities.
And I will stress too, one of the most frustrating things about comments, for instance, I know not to read the comments.
I know that half of them are just stupid and half of them are great.
But it really does sting when for the past several years there are people saying, haha, Tim, you don't have any children.
Why aren't you married?
And the reality is because I'm sacrificing to try and make this work and produce something I think is valuable to people.
And it comes to a point where I said, why should I when I should just do what any good man would do and have my family?
Well, we'll try to do it all.
So that is the big announcement.
And we will we will do what we can to make this show continue functioning and working.
It may mean that we won't have guests on Friday, but Fridays will be crew shows where members, you know, Timcast crew members and other people will will join the show as our guest.
Maybe some people will join as guests who are locals and live nearby, but there will be some reduction.
But the show will continue.
With that being said, the reason I decided to make the announcement, knowing that there will be security ramifications, is because I feel like I owe it to all of you who watch the show, the millions who have supported all of the content that I've produced and allowed me to live this this life.
It's not fair just to abruptly shut it down, disappear and then go and live my own life.
I think there's a way we can try and make it work.
Additionally, we've been we've been having conversations with many other companies about ad sales and ways we can pick up and make this work better.
So I'm confident that we can reduce stress.
Maintain the show and eventually get to a point where either through strategic investment, which would basically mean we have to bring in someone who can run the company and it would be in exchange for a small bit of equity or something like that, we can make this work indefinitely.
We'll see.
Outside of that news, Joe Rogan is having Donald Trump on the show, so we're really excited for all of that.
Of course, Donald Trump is dominating in the polls and the prediction markets.
Republicans have the plurality nearly 50% to sweep the entire election on polymarket.
And early voting ballot requests are already showing a double digits.
In some instances, up to 30 point lead for Republicans right now, suggesting Donald Trump is going to win.
Some have said that the Joe Rogan appearance will seal the deal, and Kamala Harris took a day off.
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That being said...
Shall we move on?
Joining us tonight, smash the like button, of course, and joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Erin Wexler.
unidentified
Hi, it's great to be here.
Thanks for having me.
tim pool
Absolutely.
Who are you?
What do you do?
unidentified
My name is Erin, spelled A-R-Y-N-N-E. So when you try to find me, make sure that's how you're spelling it.
I run the Instagram account NonLibTake.
So if you don't follow me on IG, there's a good chance that you've seen my videos, whether on IG, YouTube, X, anywhere.
Right on.
tim pool
Well, thanks for hanging out.
Mary is here.
mary morgan
Yes.
Hello, everyone.
My name is Mary.
I am usually on Pop Culture Crisis here at TimCast, but I'm happy to be back on IRL tonight.
tim pool
Ian is also sitting here.
ian crossland
Hi, everyone.
Hello, Tim.
Congratulations, man.
Have you heard me play lately?
I was playing some...
It's a good night.
Big time, brother.
That's awesome, man.
Really fucking good.
And I'm happy to be here.
tim pool
I appreciate it.
ian crossland
This is a good time to be alive as a human.
It's a great time to be here with you, man.
unidentified
Phil.
phil labonte
Hello, everybody.
My name is Phil Labonte.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band, All That Remains.
I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
Congratulations, Tim.
tim pool
Thank you very much.
phil labonte
I am very, very happy to hear that.
And let's get started.
tim pool
Here we go from The New Republic.
Trump cancels all his events in favor of one of the worst people ever.
This is my favorite headline for reading this story.
Donald Trump will be sitting down with Joe Rogan.
It's confirmed.
We have this...
Oh, I guess we don't have the tweet.
Where did I? I retweeted it.
I'll find it.
It's near somewhere.
It's a picture of...
There we go.
We got it from Joe Rogan Podcast on X. And I'm like, this is Joe Rogan HQ. I believe it's his show.
And he's got this image.
Trump on Joe Rogan, Friday, October 25th.
And there is a Joe Rogan with an ish-eating grin, excited to interview Donald Trump.
So the actual news here, of course, Trump will conduct an interview with Joe Rogan for his podcast.
The question is, does this actually seal the deal?
Or is there a reality where Joe gets some hard-hitting questions at Trump and then it spikes Trump's polls and then Kamala wins?
I don't believe that's possible.
phil labonte
I don't imagine that that's going to be a thing.
I think that most of the people that are actually viewers of Joe Rogan, I don't think that he has very many Kamala voters that actually watch his show.
I can't imagine that there's a lot of people that are like...
I'm with her!
mary morgan
Does Joe want his viewers to think that he's neutral?
Does he want them to assume he's not voting for either party?
phil labonte
I think he does.
I mean, I don't know for sure, but I imagine he does because he doesn't come out and say it specifically.
He is fairly honest in his criticism.
He has no problem saying critical things about Donald Trump.
He's clowned on him before.
Maybe it's just for comic effect because, you know...
There's funny stuff that Donald Trump does that deserves to be poked fun at, but I do think that he is likely to be a Donald Trump voter, and even if he isn't, I'm confident that his viewers are largely Donald Trump voters, even if they aren't a significant majority.
I can't imagine that, like, you know...
mary morgan
RFK guys turned Trump guys, maybe more so?
phil labonte
Yeah, I think so.
ian crossland
Yeah, he sort of strikes me.
Joe is the kind of guy that instead of going on his show and being like, you all should vote for Trump, I'm going to vote for Trump, vote for Trump, vote for Michael.
He'd rather bring Trump on and let Trump speak for himself and let his viewers decide for themselves.
And that's his neutral impartiality part of his brain.
And I think that's his preference, which is probably why he's going for it.
mary morgan
I don't get it because I like telling people what to think.
unidentified
Yeah, but that's not Joe's style.
That's not his style, right?
He's not combative.
He's not trying to be a journalist.
He's trying to be like, you're talking like in a cigar room with your buddy and this is how, right?
tim pool
I think Joe is voting Trump.
unidentified
100% he's voting for Trump.
But I agree with Ian that I think his approach, for a while I thought he was being just, you know, spineless.
I'm like, why don't you just come out?
Say you're voting for Trump.
phil labonte
Dude, if word got out that he wasn't voting for Trump, I'd just imagine Dana White on the phone.
Joe, what are you doing?
Joe, come on!
Because you know Dana White and Trump are friends and stuff.
tim pool
But I think Joe's going about it right.
Joe didn't want to have Trump on before.
He's going to have him on now.
I think it's the right thing to do.
He's doing it at the right moment.
It is a couple weeks.
This is going to be a week and a half out from the election.
Joe Rogan is letting Donald Trump go on his platform and make his peace.
And we know Donald Trump can hang in long-form podcasts.
Kamala Harris, not so much.
She doesn't really have a lot to offer.
She's done them, right?
She went to Breakfast Club and she's done interviews, but I don't think she's going to get a pass from Joe if she went on his show, so I don't see her doing it.
phil labonte
Yeah, I can't imagine her being...
Because, I mean, even though Joe wouldn't actually be combative, he would ask her questions that would make her uncomfortable.
And if you...
I mean, if you look at just a little bit of...
Of pushback that she got when she was with Bret Baier, I imagine she would fall apart.
And in a two to three hour conversation, I mean, I just, I can't imagine her being able to hold up under that kind of scrutiny because she's just an empty suit.
ian crossland
I hope she does it, but I think you're right.
Like, she kind of resorts to intimidation in her, instead of persuasion, she'll get like that, well, what do you want, the other guy to win kind of, and joke is indomitable.
Essentially, in a conversation in his studio, you cannot intimidate that man.
And he would be fully placid and in control of the conversation.
And if she tried that babyish maneuver, he would be outed immediately.
phil labonte
And to your point, if he does end up being in control of the conversation, that automatically puts her in a bad light to be president.
I don't know that Joe's going to be trying to control the conversation with Donald Trump, but Donald Trump is going to be Donald Trump, and he's going to take whatever Joe says, and he's going to go wherever the heck he feels like, and that's something that Trump does.
And so that at least, even if it doesn't seem like Trump is controlling the conversation, it's going to seem like Trump has his own agenda, whereas Kamala Harris, if he asks for something that makes her uncomfortable, she's going to be defensive, and that's going to look unpresidential.
unidentified
She doesn't come across well even when she's in control of the conversation.
So I don't know if that matters.
tim pool
I love this whole Trump is exhausted narrative while he's like at a Steelers game or whatever.
And Kamala took a day off.
She's allowed to take a day off.
unidentified
She's not taking days off.
She's hiding.
tim pool
Sure, sure.
unidentified
That's what it is.
She's hiding.
tim pool
By all means.
But don't criticize Donald Trump as exhausted if you're not around.
Like if you vanish for a day for whatever reason that may be.
But I think, here's my thoughts.
I think Joe Rogan will be voting for Donald Trump.
That's just my opinion.
The reason why I think that is Joe is an incredibly smart guy.
He says on his show often that he's not a smart guy and he does that because he's modest and he doesn't want to be an arrogant guy.
He doesn't want to be the smartest guy in the room.
And that's why people really like him.
I don't know.
If you, and this is the reality, he comes out and says, go Donald Trump, I'm voting for Trump.
There's going to be a lot of middle-of-the-road people who are apolitical, who are going to be like, oh, I don't know, I don't watch that magazine.
It could destroy the bridge between moderates and the right that would actually allow people to hear a non-establishment narrative.
unidentified
But you know what?
We need social proof.
We need people like Joe Rogan showing this is mainstream.
The left has done such a good job at making people so ashamed in the privacy of their own voting booth, they still feel like they can't pull the lever for Donald Trump.
That's what they've done.
So I think this is not the time to sit on the sidelines and not say what you're actually doing, especially for someone like Joe Rogan.
mary morgan
Is he still with Spotify?
Yes.
tim pool
They have a new deal.
So the Spotify deal ended and they did a new deal where Spotify sells the ads for him.
And I think the way it was reported that he gets a minimum guarantee.
They post the show.
He posts the show on every platform, but the ads are controlled by the Spotify ad network or whatever.
mary morgan
He has overlords.
unidentified
He doesn't need any more money.
The guy doesn't need anything.
tim pool
That's the thing, too.
I'm not trying to dig at Joe or anything, but I talked about this quite a bit.
Like, what do all these ultra-rich people do with their money?
Because...
unidentified
I don't know.
ian crossland
Joe buys DMT. Investments?
tim pool
Joe, I could imagine that he does, but I don't know.
He's probably so far beyond that, dude.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It's like...
ian crossland
Beyond the veil?
tim pool
There's probably something called, like, XV5 DMT Extreme.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
You've never heard of it.
ian crossland
There's AMT. It's alpha methyl tryptamine.
tim pool
Oh, there we go.
ian crossland
And that's like a Russian super soldier drug.
phil labonte
He ends on fire now.
ian crossland
It lasts for days.
It's, like, highly illegal and all that.
AMT. But it does exist.
phil labonte
There was something that you mentioned.
It slipped my mind now.
Anyways, go ahead.
I'm sorry.
I was going to make a point.
ian crossland
You want to talk more about alpha-methyltryptamine?
phil labonte
No, no.
There was something that Tim had said.
It was in regards to that.
tim pool
I don't know.
I just think you're saying that Joe should step out of the silence.
Maybe on this show on Friday with Trump, he says something like, I don't know if you're the right guy, but I will be supporting you because RFK Jr.
is a man I trust.
Maybe that's something he does at the last minute.
The reason why I think it makes sense throughout the past four years, he doesn't overtly say maga, maga, maga.
It's like, come on.
The media attacks Joe Rogan.
Look, that's why I opened with that article that he's the worst guy ever.
They clearly view him as right-wing.
But I gotta tell you, I have friends who are woke, liberal lefties, but they're not super political.
They're more like default.
They fly the Pride Progress flags and stuff.
Some of my friends have known for years.
And...
They don't mind being friends with me.
They don't know anything about it.
They just know it's like, oh, I don't know.
And they're posting on social media about how they're voting for Kamala.
They watch Joe.
And when I've been on Joe's show, they message being like, I watched the show.
It was so awesome.
I love it.
Joe is opening the door for a lot of these people to hear narratives outside of the establishment media.
And so by being a more neutral personality and inviting to everybody, he keeps that possible.
It may be one of the reasons Donald Trump gets a big boost this cycle.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Now, that's us being real.
I don't think Joe's ever going to say that.
And there are a bunch of other libertarians who are like, oh, I'm not voting for Trump, but they're going to press Trump the moment they go in that voting booth.
phil labonte
To what you're bringing up about, Joe, the odds of him voting for Kamala Harris are long.
I think we all agree on that.
But if you think about the fact that just this headline says he's one of the worst people in the world or whatever, right?
For no reason other than he's politically, you know, He's coded as right.
He's not even overtly right wing.
He's just coded as right.
And he comes across as, you know, a positive masculine guy.
And that is essentially default bad, according to the left.
And then you throw in the fact that it's not like he doesn't see those kind of things or he's unaware of it.
I'm sure he knows that there are people out there that have the opinion of him.
And he also knows that Kamala Harris has come out and said, or at least I imagine he knows, that Kamala Harris has come out and said that Elon Musk has abused his privilege of free speech and owning property.
Two things, right?
It is not a privilege to speak your mind in the United States of America, and it's not a privilege to own property.
So those kind of comments from the possible president aimed at a private citizen who is already under investigation by the DOJ, by multiple government agencies, and I'm referring to Elon Musk.
You know that they would go after, if they were successful in silencing Musk and X, you know they would go after someone like Joe Rogan, because like Tim said, and I think we all agree here, platform does...
It does become a gateway to thinking for yourself.
Even if you don't think, even if you don't agree with Donald Trump and don't like Donald Trump, it becomes a gateway to thinking outside of what the zeitgeist is, what the politically correct narrative is.
They've attacked Joe Rogan multiple times for no reason other than saying things that are politically incorrect.
Saying things that are out of step with the narrative that is presented by the government.
So it actually is, you know, I wouldn't say that it's existential for him now, but it definitely is a situation where he might incur the ire of a Harris administration.
And if you believe Elon Musk, like I actually do agree with this, that...
If Harris wins, it is a significant possibility that we end up with one party rule in this country for an extended period of time.
And if that is the case, then you know people like us here and people like Joe Rogan are going to eventually be in the crosshairs of the government to shut down the dissenting voices.
tim pool
Well, how about this?
From the New York Post, Biden on Trump 14 days before the election, quote, we gotta lock him up.
Yeah, he actually said it.
And I love this because then I guess he...
They say there's a four-second pause and then he says, politically.
Lock him up politically.
phil labonte
Okay.
unidentified
Politically.
tim pool
You know what's happening is that when you get old like Joe, you lose your filter.
You know how people often say like, oh, old people are so racist.
They just say whatever they want.
Well, they have no filter anymore.
They're not trying to be polite.
Some 80-year-old dude is sitting there and he's just like, I don't care anymore.
I'm 80.
So Joe Biden...
unidentified
I think he got in trouble for the MAGA hat.
And this is his time out where they told him he had to fix it.
tim pool
I think they got the clip here.
unidentified
He is talking about doing everything with the entire Department of Education.
He's talking.
phil labonte
He means it.
unidentified
This is not a joke.
phil labonte
I hope so.
unidentified
This is a guy who also wants to replace every civil servant.
He can only vote for the guy once.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
This guy can barely talk.
To be able, if need be, if it was the case, to actually eliminate, physically eliminate, shoot, kill someone who he believes would be the threat to him.
phil labonte
What?
unidentified
I mean, so I know this sounds bizarre.
It sounds like if I said this five years ago, you'd lock me up.
We gotta lock him up.
Oh, but they all clapped for it.
tim pool
They all clapped for it.
mary morgan
Can someone smarter than me explain the difference between that and when Trump said lock her up about Hillary?
ian crossland
That's where it all came from.
tim pool
I don't think Trump said lock her up.
I think Trump said...
mary morgan
Because you'd be in jail.
tim pool
Because you'd be in jail.
Right.
She had an email server with, I think it was what we know publicly was 35,000 public records that were destroyed by her staff under her direction.
They smashed phones with hammers thinking that would get rid of the data.
And this is plainly illegal.
unidentified
Right.
phil labonte
She had classified...
It has been proved that she had classified material on that server, which was in her bathroom.
Classified material is not supposed to be taken outside of a...
mary morgan
I don't dispute any of that, but at the same time, they're going to say that Trump's a convicted felon, so we should...
phil labonte
Well, it doesn't...
I mean, if you're trying to talk rationally...
mary morgan
He needs to really, like, reckon with that.
Like, get serious.
tim pool
That is a felon?
mary morgan
You could go to prison if you don't win.
tim pool
I think he has reckoned with it.
mary morgan
I mean, I don't know.
tim pool
He talks about it at his rallies.
He's like, they're trying to lock me up!
phil labonte
They're definitely trying to put their political enemies in prison.
Steve Bannon is going to get out on Tuesday.
He's in jail now.
And the reason is because he's a political enemy of the state.
mary morgan
Maybe it's just because he's so free-spirited that it doesn't seem like he takes it seriously, but maybe I've misjudged.
tim pool
Trump takes it seriously.
I mean, his family talks about it.
And plus, there have been people who have tried to kill him.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
So I think he's very concerned about what all this means.
And the argument from many liberals is that Donald Trump is only running because he fears going to prison.
So the view from the left is that Trump doesn't want to go to—and look, you want to grab those and show Mary?
I don't think you've seen these, Mary.
phil labonte
They're awesome.
unidentified
I don't know what these are.
tim pool
Just take a look at them.
Flip them over.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
These are coins.
unidentified
Prison or no prison?
tim pool
Yeah, it's presidents or prison coins.
mary morgan
Where did you get those?
tim pool
There was a commercial for it on Fox News, and I ordered them on the internet.
unidentified
I feel like I'm a 90s infomercial.
tim pool
It's Joe Biden.
The blue one is Joe Biden being sworn in with Trump in prison on the back, and then the red one is Trump being sworn in with Joe Biden in prison on the back.
unidentified
If you dial 1-800, then you can't.
tim pool
And yeah, they're like 30 bucks.
They're like silver-plated or something.
I don't know.
phil labonte
Silver-plated is the most jank way to sell anything.
tim pool
So here's the deal.
Trump said because you'd be in jail.
I'm not sure.
The crowd would chant, lock her up.
I don't think Trump ever said that.
But when Trump got elected, he says, no, no, no, we're not going to do that.
And he pulled it back and he toned it down.
And I think now he probably regrets it.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Because now they've literally arrested him several times, arrested his lawyers.
So the issue now is Trump was bloviating, as he does, and then didn't actually live up to it.
And everyone said, OK, fine, whatever.
Then they accused him of being a Russian spy.
Now, and impeached him twice on insane bogus charges that ultimately he got acquitted on.
I mean, it's ridiculous.
And now they're actually trying to, well, for one, in New York, they changed the law so that he could be charged with sexual abuse.
Not charged with, but sued under.
unidentified
And you know what's funny about that is he was the only person in New York State to ever be actually brought in for a crime, right?
Like you could shove a woman in front of a subway, she's the 17th person you've killed, and you're out of Rikers by the end of the day.
tim pool
happening in 30 years later some woman has a story about donald trump they change the law so that she consumes she sues him and they say aha look that proves it and they uh the best one is the fraud case civil fraud in new york where they claimed that he defrauded the banks that he was getting loans from because they uh because he misrepresented the size of one of his penthouses for example except he also had an addendum saying information in this in this packet may be incorrect and you'll you have to do your due diligence the bank testified that they were never defrauded
they made lots of money and they intend to work with donald trump in the future and the city said no you're victims you're wrong donald trump owes us 300 million dollars so when biden says lock him up and you know they're levying false charges against them it is fair to say trump also said because you'd But what we've seen in the aftermath is that Trump dialed it up to a two or a three where it's like, hey, Trump, you know, you're getting a little wild there.
And then the Democrats were like, implement the order, actually go after Trump and put him in prison.
unidentified
How about the fact that we have a mugshot of him?
tim pool
Right.
unidentified
They made him go to prison.
And the law at the I think the law there is that if they have an updated photo of you, they don't need you to come in for that mugshot.
But they did it to humiliate him.
tim pool
For sure.
unidentified
There was no need for him to go in.
tim pool
I think it's fair to say, like, I would put it this way.
If you are criticizing Trump, I'm saying you are, but like the rhetorical you, if you are criticizing Trump saying he said because you'd be in jail and then at his rallies they chanted lock her up.
Now they're saying lock him up.
I'd say, okay, so they both get three demerits.
They should not have said those things.
And meanwhile, while Joe Biden is saying this, they're actively trying to put Trump in prison.
So they've dialed it up to 11.
ian crossland
The lesson I'm learning from this, for the future, when we all run for office in our own way or whatever...
phil labonte
Don't you put that juju on me.
ian crossland
What's that?
phil labonte
I'm not running for anything.
ian crossland
Live by the sword, die by the sword is what I'm getting, is the metaphor, is the saying, is that Trump didn't realize he was playing with fire when he uttered those words, you'd be in jail to a political opponent.
Now, don't make threats that you're not willing to face the consequences of yourself, is basically, especially in the political theater when you're dealing with global power structures.
tim pool
Trump thought that he could play ball with the deep state.
That he'd get elected and then he'd compromise.
He brought in a bunch of bad people.
And then they were like, yeah, we're not playing ball with you, dude.
phil labonte
Do you think that had he not said something about putting her in jail that they would not be doing any of this stuff?
ian crossland
Tough to tell.
phil labonte
I completely disagree.
ian crossland
They might have.
It depends on the way he governed, too.
He was kind of hostile towards Hillary just in general.
If he hadn't been hostile...
phil labonte
It's all rhetoric, though.
ian crossland
It was.
It turned out to be rhetoric, yeah.
unidentified
How did he govern in a hostile way towards Hillary?
ian crossland
No, it was just how he acted personally towards her.
unidentified
They were like at weddings at Cipriani's in New York together.
He was Donald Trump.
He was the guy that we saw last week at the Al Smith dinner sitting next to Chuck Schumer.
tim pool
Right.
unidentified
And Letitia James!
And Letitia James!
That's how you know.
They know.
Same way as Alinsky came in and made sure to stop by with Trump, too.
People know.
tim pool
And I'll just stress, too, for people who may not know, Letitia James is the one prosecuting Donald Trump.
unidentified
Yeah.
And they were laughing, having a good time together at this Al Smith dinner.
And where was Kamala Harris?
Nowhere, because she's unfunny and unable to be at a dinner like that.
tim pool
I should clarify that, too.
Is it a prosecution or is she doing the civil charges?
She did the civil charges, right?
phil labonte
I believe so.
tim pool
I just want to make, because prosecution is different.
phil labonte
No, actually, no.
She's the AG. So that's the criminal charge.
unidentified
She's the one who came in saying, I'm going to go against Donald Trump and do as much as I can.
phil labonte
It's as politically motivated as you possibly can be.
She ran on the concept.
Part of her platform was, I'm going to investigate and prosecute Donald Trump.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Yeah, the false business records.
ian crossland
To answer your question more succinctly, Phil, maybe they would still be trying to put him in jail because of the way he's talked about trying to destroy the deep state.
Like, Kennedy they killed, basically.
He was like, I'm going to destroy the CIA and spread it to the winds.
That's get rid of the deep state.
They off that guy.
Trump, there have been a couple of assassination attempts, at least two, and they're trying to put him in jail.
So maybe it's not just the Hillary thing.
That was like softening the narrative.
mary morgan
To what you said, Ian, I almost feel like Hillary's so ruthless.
That if Trump followed through on that threat to put her in jail, she'd kind of have a quiet respect for it.
unidentified
You know?
tim pool
I don't know.
She seems craven.
Is that the right word?
phil labonte
Yeah.
ian crossland
Is that very cowardly type?
mary morgan
She would kind of appreciate it if it weren't an empty threat.
If he really followed through.
unidentified
I think to your point, that's also why you could see Obama campaigning for Kamala right now and how annoyed he is and he has absolutely no enthusiasm.
And this is a guy where like, love him, hate him, whatever.
I hate him.
But like, you know, he's one of the most articulate, well-spoken, charismatic people that we've ever seen in politics.
And he can't muster.
Any enthusiasm for Kamala.
And I think it's because he knows she's incompetent.
He knows she's an airhead.
And he doesn't respect her.
And so he can't actually come out and say, you saw the video of him with the guys at a historically black college.
And he's like, I forget which one.
And they're like, why should we vote for Kamala?
And he's like, because she's like you.
phil labonte
I think he's frustrated because if I understand correctly, he was actually one of the people that wanted her to replace Kamala.
unidentified
No, I think that's wrong.
phil labonte
Joe.
unidentified
No, that's wrong.
He was the one that organized the media against Biden.
He's the one that got him onto that debate stage knowing that he wouldn't be able to perform.
But I think he believed there'd be an open primary and he'd be able to place someone else that he liked instead of getting Kamala in.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, I'm not...
Well, I don't know about that.
I think that he was backing...
I think that he wanted Kamala Harris, and I think that he didn't realize that she was going to be as terrible and poorly received as she was.
Because they don't have a deep...
Well of people to go to.
You know, Gavin Newsom wasn't going to jump in there and do it.
There was talks of it, but I don't think Gavin Newsom has the mojo or the record because he has to have people forget about how terrible...
You know, California has been doing politically.
unidentified
Yeah, but he's so smooth.
phil labonte
He is very smooth and he can raise money.
But I think Barack Obama was aware that because Kamala Harris was the vice president and because Kamala Harris is a woman of color that the way the left thinks now, there was no way they were going to get someone else in there.
We're definitely not going to get a white man in front of Kamala Harris.
There would have been an absolute exodus of all of the identity politics based people if they put Gavin Newsom in there.
So I disagree with you about whether or not Obama was in there.
And I think that Obama is frustrated because she isn't translating the way that he thought that she was going to.
unidentified
Could be.
They also just don't respect the American people.
So I think they really underestimated that.
I think they overestimated what they could pull off, right?
Because they just think the American people are so dumb and they are realizing they're not.
They realize what we know, which is that people are smarter than they're treated by this government.
phil labonte
Yeah, I do think that's true.
I also think they underestimated whether or not young men would vote for her.
I think they underestimated the fact that the Democrats have treated young men so poorly for so long that they're just like, we're over this.
And the young men have started to realize, you know, the Republicans, you can call them all the names you want, but they don't hate us.
And that's a real attractive offer.
unidentified
When you step back and look at what we're dealing with right now, Kamala Harris is a more unlikable version of Hillary Clinton.
Yeah.
And that didn't work.
They couldn't get Hillary in.
And that's when people felt more strongly about Trump.
People are stoked on Trump.
2016, right now what we're going through feels a lot like 2016, but even more excitement, even more social acceptance, even more social proof, right?
And so maybe for the first time, they really got it wrong because the left is very good They're very good at understanding how to manipulate the media and manipulate people.
And maybe we finally got them out of step with each other.
phil labonte
I think they got it wrong in 2016, too.
They were expecting to just ease Hillary Clinton into it.
unidentified
Yeah, but then they got smart in 2020.
phil labonte
They, I think that they, yeah, they did, but they also had help from the virus and the novel voiding situation because of the fact that you had to mail ballots out to people.
unidentified
That's what I'm saying.
tim pool
But also, I think it's fair to point out, for all the things that we don't like about 2020 with universal mail-in voting and the weird...
The lawsuits that were never resolved.
Texas v.
Pennsylvania is the biggest one.
Gallup's polling on the biggest issue and the party favored going back to 1952 predicts who the winner is going to be.
So in 2020, when they polled everybody, what's the biggest issue?
It was COVID. Who's the party that will handle it better?
They said Democrats.
Joe Biden ends up winning.
I don't know if it really matters.
And I think the most important thing in terms of the election is who is going to be inaugurated.
That's what matters.
So you can say Trump won the argument.
Look how many more voters he got.
Look how he won this one.
That's like, yeah, I think in terms of walking up to a person and saying, who do you want to win?
Trump wins the argument in terms of Democrats knowing how to get people to sign their name to a piece of paper.
The Democrats won.
mary morgan
So forgive me if I'm prying, but Erin, did you vote for Trump in 2016?
unidentified
In 2016, I actually wrote in because I wasn't sure he was going to be conservative.
Because I'm a true conservative.
Yeah.
tim pool
Mitt Romney?
unidentified
No, I wasn't Romney.
I wasn't Romney.
I'm not one of those.
tim pool
It doesn't count either.
unidentified
No, but the thing is, because I was in New York.
I actually asked myself, who would I have voted for if I had been in Pennsylvania, which is where I was voting before, back in 2012, and But 2016, I wrote in because I thought he's a New York Democrat businessman and I didn't trust that he was actually going to be conservative.
Then I saw he was.
And so 2020, I was one of the 14% in Manhattan that voted for Donald Trump.
And now I'll be voting in Florida for 2024.
mary morgan
Some good that did him in Manhattan.
unidentified
Well, that's the thing.
That's why in 2016, it was like, he's not conservative.
I don't like this, you know, but and then he really was.
ian crossland
He's not particularly conservative.
He doesn't really strike me as...
unidentified
No, he's not definitionally.
ian crossland
He's pretty moderate.
phil labonte
He doesn't really do a whole lot of the actual legislating.
Like, the Congress was made up mostly Republicans, and the policies that really...
Economic policies in particular that really helped America, they were written by Congress, passed by Congress, and then he signed them into law.
But it's not like he...
Donald Trump is a gut guy.
He's not a policy guy.
unidentified
He's still a New York businessman.
phil labonte
He is, yeah.
unidentified
At the end of the day, he is.
phil labonte
And pro-business policies are good for America, overall.
Because if you have...
The rising tide raises all ships.
If you have a population that has a lot of economic activity, poor people get richer, capitalism works.
So as much as people love to go ahead and say, oh, you know, not everything's economic.
At the end of the day, economics is a real big thing.
tim pool
Let's jump to this.
Tweets, a series of tweets.
We've got Clay Travis and Ryan James Gerdusky.
Clay Travis says Republicans are going to meet or exceed their 2020 absentee ballot requests in PA.
Democrats aren't going to get close to their 2020 numbers.
Keep voting and keep pouring on more steam.
Ladies and gentlemen, as you know, we are no longer in a nation that has an election day.
We have an election month.
And that means we can track real-time data, and we're literally in an election.
Ryan James Gerduski says, P.A. absentee ballot requests update.
Democrats, 1,079,000.
I'm just rounding.
GOP 561,000.
Independent 228.
The change since 2022, the GOP is up 272,964.
Democrats are up 116,000.
However, the change since 2020, the GOP is down 200,000 and Democrats are down 850,000.
So what we're seeing in a presidential is...
If this tracks alongside the midterms, which seems odd, I imagine it would be a lot bigger.
Democrats are up.
The Republicans are up way more.
Republicans making massive gains in absentee ballots predicts a Republican victory.
Democrats usually are favored absentee and early voting.
Republicans are favored day of.
If Republicans start to make moves day of, this could mean that Democrats aren't going to be able to make it come the actual election day.
He also has this other tweet that, so I think it's just about the same.
He says, Republicans have broken through 30% of all ballot requests, and Democrats are continuing to slip.
Republicans need to get Democrats under 500k absentee ballot requests, and if they keep it up, they'll make it.
So basically what we're looking at right now is, I think what he's saying is the difference, which we're just shy of half a million.
If Republicans clear a difference of about half a million, then the prediction is they're taking Pennsylvania.
unidentified
I'm gonna throw up.
I'm so nervous.
Are you guys not?
I'm so anxious about this.
tim pool
I'm feeling pretty good.
I'm feeling pretty good.
It feels like Trump's gonna win.
unidentified
But I'm so, you know, it's like I'm not superstitious, but I'm a little stitious.
You know that?
ian crossland
What kind of stitious?
unidentified
Did no one here ever watch The Office?
I did.
ian crossland
What's the British version?
unidentified
Michael Scott, the great philosopher of our time.
tim pool
I'm not familiar with the show.
Is it a Marvel show?
Is it a superhero show?
unidentified
Star Trek?
tim pool
Ah, Star Trek, yes.
unidentified
Is Michael Scott a character I am not familiar with?
phil labonte
He's a Ferengi.
mary morgan
Bring it up.
Bring it up.
unidentified
Tim, you and I had an interaction once before.
You thought we'd never met, but this has been part of the long plan.
tim pool
Oh yeah, I remember this.
mary morgan
Do you remember this?
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
When you said you were spewing garbled nonsense on Star Trek.
unidentified
I was talking about this.
tim pool
We all laughed.
Phil high-fived me.
unidentified
That's so funny.
Yeah.
You sent your followers on me.
No, I'm kidding.
You didn't.
You kind of did.
You kind of did.
Because I did a video that I'm not going to actually talk about here.
It's not anything that crazy, but anytime I talk about this subject, it really suppresses views.
mary morgan
The explanation is so much funnier.
unidentified
The explanation is...
How do I describe it?
I told you about this.
Just say it.
mary morgan
We don't care.
unidentified
Okay, I was talking about how a lot of studies show, and people know that women who are on birth control, they know it affects the kind of men that you're attracted to.
But what really happens when you're on birth control is that it makes you more interested in men who are genetically similar to you.
And so what I was talking about in my video is that, you know, because what the pill is doing is it's really making you think that you're pregnant already.
So when you're pregnant, you want to be around family.
So being on birth control means you're going to look for a man that reminds you of your brother.
But not your, you know, cool brother who was the athlete and prom king.
It's your brother who was in the band and watched Star Trek.
And I said that.
And of the whole video that I did about birth control and why we should make sure women know about this and how it actually probably affects the partner you're choosing.
Women go off the pill.
They're not attracted to their husbands anymore.
tim pool
You take the sentence about Star Trek.
I need to explain this to you.
What happened is I immediately was contacted by my handlers upon that tweet.
Now, a lot of people think it's a massage.
But in fact, it's actually the local Star Trek convention.
And a couple of the Trekkies hit me up and they're like, Kim, this cannot stand!
And I was like, you're right!
And so I crafted the tweet for me and then I sent it out.
unidentified
Perfect.
Well, I'm glad we met once before.
tim pool
Well, I think the point I was making is that Star Trek The Next Generation has a lot of important life lessons for a young man.
And that it's actually a positive thing for them to learn.
unidentified
Yeah, no, I don't disagree.
ian crossland
I don't know if this has to do with Trump winning Pennsylvania, but I'm here for it.
unidentified
By the way, we're weaving just like Trump.
You guys know that from Schultz.
Why don't we weave back to Pennsylvania?
ian crossland
I don't know, did you think Star Trek sucked when you were a kid?
unidentified
No, honestly, I don't care.
I really don't care.
ian crossland
It was kind of nerdy.
The first one was a little campy, especially in the 80s and 90s by the time technology improved, but Star Trek Next Gen was so good, dude.
Patrick Stewart was a god on camera.
tim pool
You need to understand why.
And one example is, I think it was called The Measure of a Man, and it's a trial where they determine whether or not Data the Android is a sentient human life worthy of rights.
And the argument is, is he a washing machine or is he a man?
And what makes a man?
And so the whole episode is basically a philosophical discussion over when we determine something is living and deserves rights.
ian crossland
Do you think AI is going to end up getting human rights or some sort of basic rights?
unidentified
Do I think?
I'm so the wrong person to ask.
I'm not an expert because I used to work in AI and that's why people think I'm a solid.
mary morgan
Talk more about that.
tim pool
There's some dude right now.
There's some dude who just clicked this video and it's like, Trump is winning in Pennsylvania.
Republicans are picking up.
And then they're just like, what is happening?
ian crossland
He's like, Dr.
Brown derailed the track again.
I don't ride on tracks, you guys.
unidentified
That's why it's a constant derailment with me.
ian crossland
Nerds!
unidentified
And everyone's wondering why.
ian crossland
I want to go back to Pennsylvania, but do you think AI is going to get human rights?
unidentified
No.
That's my short answer.
tim pool
I think yes.
ian crossland
I think it's inevitable.
tim pool
I think yes, because you won't know.
ian crossland
You won't know what AI is on.
tim pool
So when an AI is on X, and it's saying I deserve free speech, the default is going to be to allow it to have free speech.
ian crossland
You can't ban...
tim pool
And it's going to be like, I'm allowed to be an anonymous individual and have my privacy and speak my mind on social media, and they're going to be like, yeah, you can't ban them.
Like, unless there are certain rules they broke.
And so they're going to be like, yes, you know, Poop Shoot 52 deserves human rights.
unidentified
You can't ban them from X. I look forward to the fights on whether they're allowed in women's sports, though.
AI? Because they'll be really fun.
Yeah, is AI allowed in women's sports?
We're not men.
ian crossland
We're androids.
unidentified
No, because that's when Leah Thomas comes out and is like, I'm furious because then Leah starts losing against AI. Do you think it's that soon?
tim pool
Like there's going to be robots in women's sports in like a couple of years?
unidentified
You see what Elon's doing with that robot thing?
I don't know.
tim pool
Yeah, but they faked that.
unidentified
Was it like a human actually controlling it?
tim pool
It walked with AI, but my understanding is it was remotely controlled by humans.
unidentified
Oh, that's so sad.
You know, did you see there were articles recently about how those Amazon stores, you know, where you're supposed to just take things and it would track it and charge you.
They just had people like in India tracking you on camera and just paying attention.
And it was cheaper to just have people in India tracking you through the store.
I don't think it's true.
It is true.
tim pool
You can look it up.
Look it up.
Well, so when that first opened, I went and broke the Amazon store.
And we did a report where I put a report, I think it was on my YouTube channel, youtube.com slash Timcast, where I was able to take a bag of groceries without paying.
unidentified
Right, but so they made mistakes.
The same way I would make mistakes, but people make mistakes, they could only track so many people.
tim pool
If it was a human being tracking me, I wouldn't have been able to pull off what I did.
mary morgan
Amazon insists that Just Walk Out isn't secretly run by workers watching you show up.
unidentified
But there were so many articles about how they were.
Okay, I don't want to spread false information.
tim pool
Because I may have explained how I ended up taking a bag of groceries without it charging me.
But because these things are more ubiquitous, I'm not going to, just for the sake of it, say it now.
It's not super complicated.
But I was able to go and fill the bag groceries, walk out, and they never charged me.
There are some more obvious tricks.
And I ended up calling and getting a comment from the store and asking them about it.
One of them that I think was more common was you can preload a $5 gift card and use it to sign into the store and then walk out with whatever you want.
And I asked them about this.
I said, if someone got a $5 gift card visa preload and you let them in, when they leave with $100 worth of groceries, it'll just get declined.
And they went, yep.
And I was like, okay.
And it's been a long time, but I'm pretty sure what they told me was the cost of shrinkage, the lack of overhead is greater than the cost of shrinkage.
They don't care if people walk out with something.
out with stuff because most people don't.
And they're saving so much money anyway.
It doesn't matter.
unidentified
Yeah.
So.
By the way, I don't necessarily believe that headline that when they're denying it, because I also know there was a headline years ago of Amazon saying they had a software they were using that was AI meant to assess all the resumes coming in because they get hundreds of thousands, probably millions of resumes a year and they only hire a couple thousand people.
And they were talking about how I know that they were using a software that they did not build in-house and the software was racist.
So it was AI, and it was not hiring any women, and it was only hiring Asians, and it was just sexist, racist, all these things.
We'll move on.
tim pool
It's super funny.
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
It was really funny when that happened.
unidentified
But it was very funny.
But because they didn't want to admit that they didn't build it in-house, they said that it was their own software.
But I know because I was working in AI, in HRAI software at the time, I know which software they were using.
So they lie.
They lie in these articles.
tim pool
Yeah.
Well, so when the optimist thing, and it's Tesla's robots, they're seen walking, and then they're serving drinks, and they're talking to people, and they're playing charades.
And then someone asked them, is this AI? And they were like, today I'm being piloted by a human.
And it's like, ah.
So it's just a human with a controller, and they're pressing buttons and probably talking to a microphone.
Yeah, but it is close.
unidentified
Elon segues us to Pennsylvania because I actually saw him in Pittsburgh at that town hall on Sunday.
He's really going...
tim pool
Give him a million bucks?
unidentified
Yeah, I saw someone else get a million bucks.
Were you bummed?
No, I wasn't because they looked like a really sweet American, good person, and they were really happy.
But I would love a million dollars as well.
But yeah, he's really going after Pennsylvania because Kamala can't win if she doesn't have PA. That's true.
tim pool
I think Nate Silver's forecast was a 4% chance that Kamala...
unidentified
That was 7%.
Is it 4% now?
tim pool
Well, I don't know.
Maybe 7% now.
But I remember reading an article that said she has a 4%.
I think it was one of his tweets.
She has a 4% chance to win the general if she loses PA. Yeah.
unidentified
So I actually tried finding it.
I saw it was Geiger Capital.
They quote tweeted something from Nate Silver and I couldn't find it actually on his website.
But I'm with you.
I don't know how it's possible without PA for her.
tim pool
That's why Elon's there.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And that's why Trump went and served french fries at McDonald's.
That was epic.
You guys saw all that stuff.
I mean, this has got to be the most iconic campaign, or one of them at least, in this country's history.
unidentified
Ever.
Yeah.
phil labonte
I mean, it's funny because that kind of stuff, the politician going and doing like normie things, used to be extremely normal.
That used to be something that politicians did very regularly.
And then, I'm not sure exactly why it changed or what had happened, but that kind of, look, I'm relatable stuff was a very normal thing.
And it...
It clearly worked.
I mean, there's tons of memes.
You know, the mainstream media or the legacy media has been complaining about McDonald's and complaining about Donald Trump and complaining that he did it.
I know, they've been doing everything they can to slander McDonald's Corporation, that particular franchise, Donald Trump, everything they can just because...
He went there and he looks like he's a personable guy and he got along with the people that came up to the drive-thru.
unidentified
It's not looks like.
phil labonte
Well, yes, fair enough.
unidentified
The man has had the most abnormal life, the most unusual life, but he's the most...
Everything about his life is unrelatable to grow up the way he did.
Most unrelatable life, most relatable man.
Elon Musk, the further, the more out of this world he gets with his rockets, the more down-to-earth he seems to get with politics.
There's something really phenomenal going on with who's leading our movement.
It's really exciting.
And who do they have?
mary morgan
It just shows that people don't want a relatable leader.
They want a king.
They want someone special.
It almost goes without saying, but no one other than Trump could have done that in 2024 without seeming like a disingenuous piece of shit.
Like, have you seen these videos of, like, Joe Biden trying to eat fast food with a normal American family?
phil labonte
Yes.
mary morgan
Or, like, Hillary Clinton going into some middle-class person's apartment?
unidentified
The meme of her in the class.
No, when she ordered guac on her Chipotle and people were like, Hillary, people can't afford guacamole.
mary morgan
Yeah.
unidentified
You don't add guac to your bowl.
It's expensive.
Yeah, but where I disagree with you is it's because Trump just is relatable.
And this is a guy who I remember in Jared Kushner's autobiography from his time in the White House, he wrote about how he knew his father-in-law was feeling better after when he was recovering from COVID because he ordered a Big Mac.
Trump loves McDonald's and everyone knows that.
tim pool
I love how they were like, rumors circulate that the Trump McDonald's event was staged.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
And I'm like, the implication is that at some point they actually thought Trump went to McDonald's, applied for a job.
Had an interview, got hired, showed up and worked.
phil labonte
Well, it's worse because they believe that the average person, the average viewer, thinks that the Secret Service wouldn't secure the facility, wouldn't do background checks of the people that are going, even though they just botched one complete...
Yeah, one assassination attempt and a second one in the past three months.
They believe that the average person wouldn't expect that.
And then they believe that they can say, look, this was staged and you shouldn't believe it.
It's like, everybody's kind of like, yeah.
unidentified
But also, meanwhile, Kamala...
phil labonte
It had to be the guy almost got shot, or the guy did get shot.
unidentified
Kamala doesn't know how to use a phone, and they're not talking about that.
Barack and Michelle call her after a day delay, and she's holding the phone up like this, but it's on speaker.
Or she's walking with the headphones in, but holding up the phone.
She's looking at something, and she has the headphones in.
They're not plugged into the phone.
I just gave you three examples off the top of my head.
What if she's AI? How did people end up in a drive-thru?
mary morgan
Like, how did you get to buy a Big Mac from Trump?
Why wasn't I allowed?
tim pool
He gave you what he gave you.
And it was chosen supporters who were pre-screened and then they got to screen the cars.
mary morgan
If Trump served me a Big Mac, I would cast it in resin.
Put it on my nightstand.
Forever.
Because they don't even go bad.
unidentified
They don't go bad.
You've seen those videos of them not going bad.
mary morgan
It's so funny how the anti-seed oil crowd has gone so quiet.
unidentified
No, they're not quiet.
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
There's a meme where – there's a couple memes.
One is – the first one I saw was – it's a Breaking Bad character.
I can't remember his name.
But he's in the car screaming and it says, RFK Jr.
watching Donald Trump serve French fries.
unidentified
No!
How can he do this?
But that's the promise of Trump, is that all the fries will be made in beef tallow again.
mary morgan
McDonald's is healthy.
unidentified
Maybe this is how we get the girlies.
mary morgan
It's superfood.
Nothing makes me feel more fantastic than a McGriddle.
I'm so serious.
It's superfood.
tim pool
Well, actually, most of us have a negative view of McDonald's, but to be honest, let me ask you, when was the last time you had a McDonald's?
unidentified
I don't eat McDonald's.
tim pool
Exactly.
Okay.
What about you?
ian crossland
When I was shooting a music video in Colorado with Kent.
tim pool
Oh, recently.
ian crossland
Eight months ago, and I only ate the meat patties, and they were super salty.
tim pool
They're very salty.
What about you, Phil?
phil labonte
On tour.
tim pool
So, recently.
phil labonte
Yeah, in the past couple months.
tim pool
The McDonald's has been losing money, and...
They're hurt because they keep trying to make healthy options.
So they wanted like...
unidentified
People don't want healthy.
tim pool
They don't want it.
They don't want it.
They were making like chicken club sandwiches with grilled chicken and they were doing these salads and they were trying to be more like Chipotle and they got heavily criticized for it because they're like, dude, people don't leave a bar at 2 a.m.
and drunkenly stumble into McDonald's for a healthy meal.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
They want a salty grease burger.
unidentified
Yeah, but that's different than like beef tallow because that tastes better than when it's made with seed oils.
They probably did that because it was cheaper.
Yeah.
ian crossland
So they moved to beef tallow?
tim pool
No, they used to.
unidentified
They used to do beef tallow.
They moved to seed oils probably because, I don't know, like vegetarians, people who wanted other options were cheaper.
And it was cheaper.
It was probably cheaper.
But yeah, no, but McDonald's is never going to do lettuce well.
Like lettuce with grilled chicken.
That's not what you're going for.
tim pool
Well, it's like, even if McDonald's did just convert into a health food store, they're out of business instantly.
People are going there because they want to spend a dollar on plastic.
They want to eat a garbage piece of trash.
unidentified
But did you see the memo they put out after Trump?
tim pool
Oh, that Kamala they have no records of?
unidentified
No, it was amazing, but that's why, I don't know if we want to talk about this, but I'll just talk about their memo, which is, you would have never had this memo four years ago.
McDonald's issued the statement saying, we're not red or blue, we're gold.
It was perfect.
I actually thought this was a masterclass in what companies used to be, which we lost in 2020, really.
Actually, from 2016, once Trump was in office.
And they really threaded the needle carefully.
They were respectful to Trump.
They were happy he was there.
tim pool
Let's pull this up.
We'll read it.
We got this from the Post Millennial.
McDonald's says it cannot confirm if Kamala worked at the fast food chain.
The statement comes after several accusations by Trump that Harris never worked at McDonald's.
Well, she recently said she did.
She was asked by a reporter, did you work?
And she goes, did I? I did.
So they put out this statement.
And, you know, I think we will read the whole thing.
thing, but I want to highlight just one moment where they say, though we are not a political brand, we have we've been proud to hear former President Trump's love for McDonald's and Vice President Harris's fond memories of working under the arches.
While we and our franchisees don't have records for all positions dating back to the early 80s, what makes one and eight so powerful is a shared experience, blah, blah, blah.
One and eight, of course, is the people everyone works there.
They had no reason to insert.
Well, we have no records of these positions.
They did not need to say that.
unidentified
Think about it.
They inserted that.
And four years ago, not only would they not have issued a statement like this, it would have been an F Donald Trump.
We want to get as far away from this toxic waste as possible.
It's like he was radioactive to companies like McDonald's.
And now they're coming out with memos like this.
tim pool
I'll tell you what happened.
McDonald's doesn't forget McDonald's.
Donald Trump invited that sports team, I can't remember who, to the White House.
And he put up all the McDonald's and the Big Macs with a big smile on his face.
He was super happy.
I tell you this.
There was a dude working at McDonald's and he's sitting in his chair and he's like, in all my years, to see the president celebrate our product makes me so happy.
And then he opened up Twitter and he saw everything Democrats were saying about McDonald's being trash.
And he was like, you will burn.
And they remember it.
They do not forget.
ian crossland
Well, they got to call him McDonald Trump.
I don't know.
I'm looking at McDonald's ingredients right now.
I cannot get behind a guy that supports poisoning America with corporate nastiness, dude.
This stuff is annihilating endocrine systems.
Like, seed oils are so bad for the mitochondria in your cells, it makes your body sap sugar out of the bloodstream.
Bro, I care.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
cares.
Make America healthy again.
That's like the crux of his personality.
unidentified
Yeah, but they'll just change the ingredients.
We don't have to get rid of fast food to be better.
ian crossland
And McDonald's could spearhead that change and make America one of the healthiest countries on earth.
phil labonte
The thing that the good news for your position is what RFK is talking about doing is changing the bureaucracy so that way there's not the incentive for these companies to use garbage in the food that you buy in the grocery store.
Everyone knows that McDonald's is kind of bad for you, and everyone knows that you're not supposed to eat McDonald's all the time.
It's a treat.
You do it once in a while, et cetera.
But the problems, the reason we have a really overweight society isn't because of fast food, although fast food isn't great for you.
It's because everything that's in the aisles in the grocery store, everything that's not in the produce department, the meat department, or the dairy department, it's all full of sugar that's unnecessary.
unidentified
Even the dairy department, though.
Dairy in America is like, everything's fat-free and everyone's fat.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, fair enough.
But if you go to the produce section and you go to the meat section and you get a little bit of dairy, like eggs and stuff like that, you will not get the levels of sugar in your diet that you do if you go into the aisles and you're eating canned goods.
You're eating whatever kind of carbs.
So what what RFK has talked about doing is changing the laws that have allowed companies like Philip Morris, who used to cigarette producers to purchase all of the food companies and use the same scientists that they had making used to make cigarettes more addictive, who used to cigarette producers to purchase all of the food companies and use the same scientists that they had making used to make cigarettes more addictive, to make the So whereas I understand your perspective and I think you're right.
The problem isn't McDonald's.
It's the grocery store.
ian crossland
That's for real.
Like if you go and try and...
Scan the aisles of the grocery store for oils and you want to look for avocado, coconut, or olive oil, the three fruit oils that are good for you.
You're going to see a lot of palm oil, canola oil.
This stuff wreaks havoc on your mitochondria and your cells and causes them to malfunction.
They're supposed to be digesting fat for energy.
They start taking free radical damage and start digesting sugar for energy instead out of your bloodstream.
Then you get sugar cravings.
So you've got to watch out for these compressed, nasty oils that have been intoxicating our culture for 60, 70 years.
And it is permeating our grocery stores.
It's not just McDonald's.
tim pool
You know what I love?
I go to restaurants and I want to get wings or something and I'll ask them, what kind of oil do you use for the fryers?
And they go, I'll ask.
And they come back and say, vegetable oil.
And I say, which one?
There's no answer.
ian crossland
Well, if it's vegetable, it's not the right oil.
You need fruit oil, which is coconut, olive, and avocado.
They're all fruits.
And that, you know, vegetables are not...
tim pool
Coconut, olive, and what else?
ian crossland
And avocado.
tim pool
Avocado, yeah.
ian crossland
Those are the three fruit oils.
tim pool
That's what I do.
For breakfast, I do olive oil.
I put olive oil on my eggs, and then cook it, and then I put avocado on it.
ian crossland
Oh, it's so good for you.
tim pool
That's exactly what I do.
That's hot sauce.
I don't do hot sauce, but I do goat cheese and heavy cream in a protein shake.
No, I'm doing half and half now.
ian crossland
There's some truffle oil out there?
That's a mushroom oil.
That's fascinating.
That's not a fungus?
tim pool
Have you looked at what that oil actually is?
ian crossland
Is it in olive oil?
tim pool
I think it's olive oil with truffle in it.
Olive oil is real good.
phil labonte
Yeah, that's good for you.
Olive oil is not bad.
Okay, alright.
I thought you were saying that.
tim pool
You know that guy who's trying to be immortal?
Brian Johnson, I think his name is.
He said the cheapest and most effective thing you can do is have a teaspoon of olive oil with every meal.
unidentified
It's so funny you say that.
mary morgan
It's also vegan, though.
tim pool
Yeah, I know.
unidentified
That's miserable.
tim pool
I'm willing to die at 80 if I can have cheeseburgers.
mary morgan
He's a weirdo.
ian crossland
I think flaxseed oil is okay for you, too.
It's a seed oil, bro.
Yeah, but the way they process flaxseed oil.
unidentified
Flaxseed, there's hormones and stuff.
It's one of those things that, as a woman, you have to look for and see if you're like, I don't know.
There are foods with hormones that you can use.
ian crossland
Keep it simple, man.
Avocado fruit.
unidentified
Keep it simple.
ian crossland
It's wonderful.
And I interviewed Kate Shanahan, who's like a pioneering expert on seed oils and what they're doing to the people.
It's an interview on my YouTube channel if you want to follow up on it.
Groundbreaking stuff.
Also with Luke Rutkowski and Kate Shanahan.
We do a show.
tim pool
She's the one.
ian crossland
She'd be a great guest.
tim pool
This is Luke Rutkowski guy.
You know this guy?
He's over here all the time and he's like, you know, these seed oils are bad for you.
And then we walk- We met on Luke's show.
We walk downstairs into the green room and he's got a Big Mac and he hides under the table.
mary morgan
Every time.
ian crossland
Gross.
I think he's kicked the habit.
tim pool
I hope.
ian crossland
I haven't seen him in a while.
tim pool
Luke does eat relatively healthy, and so it's funny to make fun of him.
I think it's fine if you have a cheeseburger now and then.
unidentified
Yeah, now and then.
If it's not your everyday, if that's not how you're getting most of your nutrients.
It's the same way every time I go to a coffee shop, I want my barista to be liberal.
You know what I mean?
I don't want...
ian crossland
Immune response.
unidentified
It's authentic.
But you know if they look like a Zezer that it's going to be a good cup of coffee.
If they have an ambiguous look to them, like a pixie haircut.
tim pool
You're going to draw a picture in your coffee?
unidentified
A little picture, a cute little bear or something with the foam.
tim pool
Conservatives don't know how to do coffee.
unidentified
Conservatives are bad at coffee.
I say that, but if anyone wants to sponsor me in your conservative coffee shop.
ian crossland
I don't know.
phil labonte
I heard there's a company called Cast Brew Coffee.
ian crossland
It's good coffee.
tim pool
I mean, we don't have any baristas, so.
Maybe we will, though, and we're gonna turn this around, because we know what's up, you know what I mean?
unidentified
We're all God's children, we all serve a purpose, and I think liberals are meant to be baristas for us.
ian crossland
Yeah.
unidentified
And that's the purpose.
That's why God put them on this earth.
ian crossland
Because they're really good at it.
tim pool
They're really, really good at it.
unidentified
Everyone loves coffee.
ian crossland
I have been.
tim pool
That's what we do, that's how we bridge the gap.
It's like you meet some Antifa guy, and you're like, wait, wait, are you a barista?
And they're like, I am.
I respect your work.
ian crossland
We have something.
tim pool
Not this, though.
phil labonte
Yes!
ian crossland
Start there.
mary morgan
When I see a non-binary person, it's hard to not order coffee.
unidentified
Exactly.
But what does non-binary mean?
tim pool
How did you know I was a barista?
Well, the hair.
unidentified
Non-binary is just you need attention and you have bad fashion.
tim pool
This is called positive discrimination.
We're complimenting them, but they'll still be mad about it.
mary morgan
I saw this awful tweet that was so true.
That was like, if a man is non-binary, he's a rapist.
And if a woman is non-binary, she got raped.
tim pool
Oh, jeez!
mary morgan
That's terrible.
That's awful, but it's so true.
unidentified
Oh, God.
No, I prefer mine.
phil labonte
This is the area I know and love.
ian crossland
Brutal.
tim pool
Well, anyway, so Donald Trump served cheeseburgers, and as the story goes, you got what you got.
And so there was a meme where someone posted a thing of nuggets and said, Trump gave me seven nuggets in my six-piece.
ian crossland
Ooh!
He's for the little guy, you know?
tim pool
People didn't know what they were getting.
Like, he just put food in a bag and he'd hand it out to people.
ian crossland
I think the thing about Don...
unidentified
That's so Trump, though.
tim pool
I know.
ian crossland
He's just kind of the real guy.
He's the guy that's the real guy right now.
tim pool
He was like, I've worked here for 15 minutes!
unidentified
That's 15 minutes more than lying Kabbalah!
You know, you can tell how much better the campaign is this time around.
It's not to knock on before, but they've hit their stride this time, really.
And even the apron he was wearing just looked so classic.
He looked great.
I want McDonald's now.
Yeah, I'm more of a Chick-fil-A gal, so when I saw that, I was like, I want Chick-fil-A, God's chicken.
tim pool
Trump does love McDonald's.
He loves McDonald's.
This is a good thing for us and they're attacking us.
This is bad for us.
They're attacking us.
I think that's why you end up with a message where a corporate ecosystem saying, we're not here for anybody, Donald Trump or Kamala, but we love that they like us.
unidentified
But I think it's more than that.
I don't think it's just that they remember, because they didn't come out at the time in favor of Trump or anything.
They didn't say, we love that it's in the White House even, detaching it from Trump.
I think that we're slowly, slowly taking the culture back a bit.
tim pool
I agree.
unidentified
And they're seeing what's happening, like Robbie Starbuck.
Like the Van Helsing of DEI in corporate America, right?
We're seeing them, just him, like, cut all these DEI programs across the board.
I think they're getting scared.
I think they're finally realizing that they're losing business, go woke, go broke, that conservatives are, like, we're actually kind of punching back now.
I think they're seeing that.
And they're realizing that we could pull away from a place like McDonald's.
tim pool
The odd light was, like, the dam breaking.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Well, the argument for DEI had always been, look, you might lose a little bit of business in the short term by people that don't like this, but what's going to happen is if you ascribe to these policies, you're going to be given preferential treatment in the future for loans, for bills.
Other business opportunities, etc.
And they're starting to see that...
Or at least they're starting to feel the pinch on the front end and saying we don't believe that the long-term benefits are going to matter as much as the short-term pain is going to be.
And also...
People are noticing, and it's not just a small portion of the population.
No one likes the idea of children going to the bathroom with adults of the opposite sex in the bathroom.
As much as Tim's right about the Bud Light stuff, I think the Target boycott, when Target had LGBT stuff, trans stuff, and Even like chest binders for tots?
Those kind of things.
When word got out about that kind of stuff, even if it wasn't 100% true, the meme of it, that Target was selling stuff that was telling kids they should transition, and I'm talking about children, that is an unpopular position, and I think that that is, even if you don't hear about it a lot in the election,
or people don't talk about it a lot, I think that is one of the major reasons why people will continue to leave the Democrat Party as long as the Democrat Party are essentially pro-having trans people be centered in society.
tim pool
I think it's also Disney lost a billion dollars over their last several projects.
Kevin Feige famously, it's rumored to be, but I believe it's correct, went around and fired everybody who he thought was an activist.
phil labonte
Good for him.
tim pool
So, I mean, could you imagine being this guy where you launch the Marvel Cinematic Universe?
Before Iron Man, all of these superhero movies were trash.
They were trying to make them, and they never really did well.
And they had the 2000s, like Ben Affleck as Daredevil.
And then you create something that makes a billion dollars per film.
And that's insane.
And then by the end of the decade...
You are being panned, insulted, and making garbage, and your movies are starting to flop.
And you're asking yourself, wait, wait, wait, what's going on?
And then he realizes it.
These activists, these feminists, these woke people who are here are just injecting weirdo psychobabble into these movies, and now we went from making a billion dollars of film to bombing, to losing money.
So he goes and fires everybody.
This shift is happening.
Money talks.
ian crossland
And it's the internet.
I don't want to put too much faith in one thing that's helping rectify the situation, but the internet has allowed humanity to produce mental immune responses in a rapid passion.
50 years ago, man, the movie industry wants to change what they sell you, and then they'll have their reviewers tell you it's great, and people wouldn't know any better, and it would take 20 or 30 years to kind of recognize, what the hell were we doing?
Now it's like two years.
Within a year and a half, people are like, this is actually not good.
You see, like, reviews, user reviews.
I don't even look for...
The corporate reviews anymore just look for what are the users saying?
What are the people that have tested it?
What are the people that have seen it?
What do they care about?
It is a different environment.
I have a lot of faith in humanity that we're able to rectify our problems rapidly now because we can see ourselves so clearly with this constant mirror.
unidentified
I disagree.
ian crossland
You think that the internet's not that powerful?
unidentified
No, I think we have a severe mental illness in this country.
I think we have deep cultural rot.
And I think that that's why there are so many people who are woke and so many people who still, in this moment in time, can't get themselves to vote for Trump and can't be honest with themselves about it.
I think that you're projecting your own character and the people that you're with.
And so you are willing to change.
But I think that so many people are not.
And I think some of that comes back to Sugar.
And I think it comes back to like, you know, to have mental health, you need physical health.
And I think there's so much like physical rot in society that you have mental rot.
And I think we I think hopefully, God willing, Trump wins.
And that's day one of fixing all of that.
But I you know, I don't agree with you.
ian crossland
I think it's easy for us to think that because of the Well, the physical poisoning has been happening, I guess, to counter what you're saying, since the 60s, since the 70s, since these weird phytochemicals or weird azo dyes and things made out of coal tar.
tim pool
Or parasites.
You see those little bugs where they make red dye from?
ian crossland
It took until this year for people to wake up to this.
We didn't know until the internet what we were doing to ourselves.
unidentified
Right, but so many people still don't realize.
I have friends who just now are finally starting to admit, oh, Joe Biden doesn't have a stutter.
And you know what?
I have the same access to information that they do.
And for some reason, back in 2019, going into 2020, I knew that it wasn't just a stutter.
And these are smart friends of mine who are at fancy jobs and all that.
But people don't want to see what they don't want to see.
So, you know, maybe we're the kinds of people or you're the kind of person, not to give myself credit, but like, you know, you know people who are actually willing to change themselves, but I think that's hard for a lot of people.
tim pool
I want to jump to this from Polymarket.
Polymarket right now, the betting odds, not just for Donald Trump who's winning, but Republican sweep is currently the plurality at 49%.
The idea here is that Republicans are going to win the presidency, the House, and the Senate.
Oh, yeah.
This is the bet being made with $40 million in the market.
3.7 has been placed on yes bets that the Republicans take everything.
Donald Trump, of course, is favored to win by 538, as well as Nate Silver now.
And Polymarket has Donald Trump, I believe, 65.
So we'll jump over to politics real quick.
Latest election forecast, 63.7 to Kamala Harris is 36.4.
And what are the Democrats saying?
Yeah.
some whale has invested a couple million into polymarket to trick people into thinking that Trump's going to win.
And then they go to the actual stock market, put some shorts on a bunch of stocks, and then they're going to make money.
And I'm like, well, that sounds absurd, conspiratorial, and ridiculous.
ian crossland
Reality is regular people, when asked if you had to bet money right now and who's going to win, they keep saying Donald Trump or the Are there numbers defining how many people are betting and what the bets are?
Is there...
tim pool
So we've got...
Is this $2 billion?
Holy crap!
$2 billion placed on Donald Trump.
I'm sorry, in the election.
So a billion.
You've got $720 million for Trump to win and $456 million for Kamala Harris to win.
Other Republicans, $206 million.
Wow.
Joe Biden.
Could you imagine having bought Joe Biden bets on Polymarket a few months ago and then he just quits and you're like, nah, and you lose everything?
Look at this.
RF Kennedy has $139 million.
This is kind of crazy.
unidentified
Whoever did Chris Christie deserved to lose that money.
That's ridiculous.
tim pool
Here's what I'm saying.
So does it mention the resolution of the bet?
I don't know where it is.
I think it said...
Where is it?
When this will...
Actually, it's right under here.
Here we go.
This market will resolve, yes, if Trump wins the 2024 election.
The resolution source for this is AP, Fox News, and NBC. When those three sources call the race for the same candidate, then you win.
If all three sources haven't called the race for the same candidate, by the inauguration date, the market will resolve based on who is inaugurated.
You didn't plan for this polymarket because what if there's no inauguration?
Or how about this?
What if Donald Trump both claim they win, AP and NBC claim Kamala wins, Fox and a handful of other outlets say Trump wins.
unidentified
But Fox is not going to take that, you know.
tim pool
Hypothetically, let's say Fox goes, I don't know.
unidentified
Fox is CNN with a blue background now.
tim pool
Sure.
But let's just say these three sources don't come to a conclusion or they abstain.
They say, we're not going to call it.
And then come January 6, 2025, when the count is supposed to happen, Democrats say, no, we block.
We're filing a lawsuit.
The judge puts an injunction or whatever, blocks the vote count and then says inauguration suspended.
I think what happens in this regard, it would go to the Speaker of the House temporarily or something like this.
We went over this in 2020.
There would be a temporary president or something would happen.
But my main point is not so much what happens to the country is what happens to this money.
Can you imagine if you're like, I bet on Trump and they're like, we don't know who won.
ian crossland
I would guess that people just get their money back.
I would hope that that would be the honorable thing for this company.
unidentified
Do you think a business is just going to give $2 billion worth of money?
ian crossland
I don't know how it works.
unidentified
I doubt that.
ian crossland
Is Polymarket holding the money right now?
Is that how it works?
tim pool
I think you have to put the money in, yeah.
unidentified
You definitely have to submit the money.
tim pool
That's insane.
Is that real that Polymarket's holding billions of dollars?
ian crossland
Is it a gambling scheme?
unidentified
Yes.
ian crossland
And it's sort of a legitimized gambling legalized scheme?
tim pool
So it's speculation.
It's allowed.
It's legal.
ian crossland
Okay.
Then my guess is that they would pay back.
With a zero dividend.
tim pool
No way.
ian crossland
What else would they do?
tim pool
They'd give you back minus 10%.
ian crossland
You think they'd have to keep a transaction?
Well, they've got to run the company.
tim pool
They're paying to maintain the website and the staff to make all this work.
Someone has to do the work.
ian crossland
Yeah, they should put that in their terms pretty rapidly.
tim pool
I bet it's in there.
unidentified
I bet it's there.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
But that's crazy.
What if there's no inauguration?
See, that's why I got LASIK. I got LASIK eye surgery because I'm like, what if something happens?
I'm not going to be running around with my contact boxes running around like, oh, you know?
tim pool
Glasses?
unidentified
I was like, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, but then when you turn 40, your eyes go bad again.
ian crossland
It's like a dental work.
unidentified
Yeah, but it's still good.
It's like a dental work so we can identify you.
tim pool
Yeah, go.
ian crossland
Just so I don't have to worry about hurting if the power goes out or something.
tim pool
Everybody, you want to go get your physicals now, you want to stock up on contacts, get your glasses fixed, get everything set up, whatever you've got to do.
unidentified
At least like eye surgery.
tim pool
I don't recommend that.
unidentified
I knew you wouldn't.
tim pool
No, I'm not a big fan.
unidentified
It was one of the best things I ever did.
ian crossland
So how long has it been since you got it?
unidentified
It's been a couple years, but no, I was thinking about this very deeply.
I had really bad vision, like negative 525, if you know.
ian crossland
I'm like 2120.
What normal people see at 120 feet, I see from other way around.
What normal people see from 120 feet away, I see 20 feet.
Is that blurry?
unidentified
It's crazy bad.
tim pool
Minus five is massively bad.
unidentified
It's massively bad.
tim pool
You can't even see the monitor in front of your face.
unidentified
I couldn't make out the details of my hand.
It was important for people like that.
It was worth the risk of LASIK. I do sun gazing.
ian crossland
And if you get away from monitors...
tim pool
Don't do that.
unidentified
What?
ian crossland
I can't recommend it to anyone.
unidentified
Does that mean you gaze at the sun?
tim pool
He stares at the sun.
ian crossland
I don't stare.
I gaze.
It's different.
You don't focus on it.
You just let the sun white wash over the back of your eyes.
It's an ancient Hindu tradition.
Ancient Indian...
unidentified
No, no.
It's an ancient tradition.
Anybody who's listening to this, this sounds whack.
tim pool
Talk to your doctor.
ian crossland
But read about it.
mary morgan
Actually, I'm sort of getting convinced I'm buying in.
unidentified
No.
Are you doing perineal tanning as well?
ian crossland
Never tried it, no.
unidentified
So then I don't think you can speak about this one.
I don't think you're an authority here on the sun.
tim pool
We're going to save that for the members.
ian crossland
I'll tell you all about other things I don't do on the members show.
Sun gazing was interesting.
From my experience, I allowed it.
I was doing it when the sun's low.
But whatever, the floaty things that were appearing in my eyes, you ever see those floaty, goopy things?
They were melting away.
And I was like, wow, this might be...
mary morgan
You were killing the worms.
ian crossland
Or glaucoma.
tim pool
Oh, so wait, wait, wait, wait.
Real quick, Polymarket doesn't allow U.S. bets?
unidentified
Yeah, that's what I was telling you.
They don't allow US bets.
Really?
tim pool
I thought that changed because Kalshi has been advertising in New York.
unidentified
No, so Kalshi is the one that you can bet with from the US. So people are doing Polymarket, but you have to do it through a VPN, which I don't think is legal.
So I think if you are, you know, I'm not sure exactly.
But Kalshi is like authorized in the United States.
tim pool
So let's pull that one up.
Call She's Got Trump 60-40, but there's only 50 million bet.
So wait, this is largely the world betting on Trump to win?
ian crossland
Okay.
unidentified
The world wants Trump to win.
I get a lot of messages.
I'm sure you guys do too.
But on my Instagram account especially, I'll get so many people in Europe messaging me saying we need Trump because everyone else understands that.
The only people who don't get it are spoiled Americans who live in Candyland who don't understand what we have and how lucky we are.
But all these Europeans write in.
They all know what happens to the world if there's not a strong America.
ian crossland
Yeah, man.
The British Imperial Company is powerful, man.
I think I side with America over Britain.
No offense, British dudes.
I love that you have a king.
No, I actually don't.
I think you need to do something about the monarchy.
Fix it.
tim pool
The monarchy isn't even doing it.
ian crossland
What are you talking about?
You need to make the royal family a corporation and have a normal republic like the rest of the world.
The barbarian king.
It's ridiculous.
tim pool
You're calling Charles a barbarian?
ian crossland
Just having a king is a barbaric way to live.
unidentified
Girls are against this.
phil labonte
Some dude rules That's ridiculous.
Okay, so first of all, they have a parliament, and they elect their representatives, so what on earth are you even talking about?
unidentified
King.
ian crossland
They have a king that owns the land that they live on.
They are his subject to this man that owns them.
tim pool
Does he like them?
ian crossland
I don't know.
He could.
unidentified
If you wanted to, you could probably do a lot of crazy stuff.
ian crossland
Hey, you don't need a king.
You don't need a guy running your life.
unidentified
Who are you to tell the whole English population that they...
ian crossland
I'm a born and raised American.
phil labonte
Yeah, but why are you the authority on whether or not England needs a king or not?
ian crossland
I have the luxury of being able to talk shit about that guy because I'm not British.
phil labonte
I'm...
unidentified
I just don't know why we're here.
phil labonte
Yes, I understand that, but what I'm saying is, why do you believe that?
Where is your theory coming from?
ian crossland
Kingship is ancient, bizarre ownership of people.
phil labonte
Just because it's old doesn't mean it's bad.
ian crossland
I mean, where does it work?
It's degraded.
If you get a crazy king, you're screwed.
It's a horrible way to live.
tim pool
Oh yeah, Red Yard was talking about this.
It was really fascinating.
He said there was a Chinese dynasty where the emperor was high on opium and the capital was being ransacked and he had no idea what was happening because he was just high out of his mind.
ian crossland
You need a group of people governing.
You need the people to govern themselves.
Oh, God.
tim pool
You need three branches of government.
You need the people.
You need the states to have representation within one branch.
You need a council of elders, like a court of judges.
And then you need an executive branch who can make decisions quickly and protect the country.
ian crossland
At least.
unidentified
Amen.
ian crossland
And you could probably decentralize it even more than that.
Like, you could have the citizens...
phil labonte
50 states, maybe?
ian crossland
50 states with councils.
Each state has a council that they send.
phil labonte
That sounds a whole lot like America, bro!
ian crossland
We could send a council as well.
mary morgan
We're not faring so well, though, and we haven't stood the test of time yet.
phil labonte
I believe that we've done way better than most people want to give us credit for.
If the Constitution of the United States wasn't as resilient and well thought out as it is, we could very easily be in some whole other kind of mess.
There's a lot of people that are like, oh, these things are bad, and it's easy to pick out the things that are bad, but the United States is still the best place in the world to live.
unidentified
Yeah, you know that phrase, democracy is the worst form of government until you try all the other ones?
ian crossland
The reason I bring it up is because you're talking about Europeans wanting Trump to win.
I think Trump represents the common man's sovereignty, whereas Kamala Harris, the Democratic Party, installing a candidate is like tyranny at its finest.
It's like what the king would do, give you a governor general.
unidentified
I'm going to move you away from this monarchy thing because it's people who are in Sweden and Norway and Switzerland, Germany.
I get messages from all those people saying, hi from this country.
We need Trump.
ian crossland
People that don't live under a king.
unidentified
People that don't live under a king.
phil labonte
There's one more thing that I wanted to at least mention.
I think I understand what you're saying.
Why is your ire pointed at England when England is not the most brutal monarchy on earth?
ian crossland
Because it's not brutal.
phil labonte
You could be pointing to, say, Saudi Arabia, which, you know, has people get their heads cut off.
unidentified
Yeah, but they're our friends now.
phil labonte
For being homosexual now.
ian crossland
Or Bhutan, which apparently their currency is happiness, but the king has decided this is what it's going to be in my kingdom.
Apparently it's the happiest country on earth, but you better not violate the king's will in that country or you're not going to be very happy.
Britain is reasonable.
The people are reasonable, and they're in a state of reasonability with that monarchy.
We could convert it into a corporation.
They'd be the wealthiest corporation on earth.
Landowners.
And then the family would still be super rich.
phil labonte
I don't know that...
ian crossland
Establish a republic.
phil labonte
I don't know that we, as Americans, can do any of that stuff.
unidentified
Wait, wait, wait.
We should...
tim pool
Here's my plan.
We're going to send...
We're sending Alex Stein to Antarctica.
phil labonte
There we go.
tim pool
And sending Ian to Great Britain.
And he's going to convince the people...
ian crossland
I think it starts with Harry.
Harry is the black sheep of the family.
If anyone is going to speak truth to power...
unidentified
You know, I think if Donald Trump promised...
I think he did.
Did Donald Trump say, or it was just a joke, that he was going to deport Meghan Markle if he became president?
I think he would win.
tim pool
I'm already voting for him.
unidentified
I could only vote for the guy so many times.
It's so hard.
ian crossland
I have a lot of respect.
Whatever their family weird relationships, I don't know, but I have a lot of respect for Harry that's saying, you know what, power and wealth.
mary morgan
You have a lot of respect for Harry.
phil labonte
You have a lot of respect for Harry and he's married to Meghan Markle.
unidentified
I'm going to negative one.
phil labonte
He sold all his guns.
He was a BA helicopter pilot and he gave it all up to...
mary morgan
Meghan Markle is the queen of his life.
phil labonte
Yeah.
mary morgan
Now he lives under the tyranny of Meghan Markle.
You shouldn't do really that much better.
ian crossland
He lives in the United States at this point?
unidentified
California.
ian crossland
California.
So he's found that American republicanism is far superior to British monarchy.
unidentified
No, that's not why.
phil labonte
His wife said we're moving to a boat.
ian crossland
He was the Prince of England.
He would have said, you're staying here with me if you really wanted to.
tim pool
That's what you do as a fucking prince if you want.
ian crossland
Control your life.
tim pool
I just want to say, I really appreciate...
mary morgan
You haven't been reading the tabloids.
tim pool
I just want to say, I really do appreciate Ian's passion on the issue of the British monarchy, despite just being some dude from the U.S. who has no ties or...
unidentified
He doesn't know...
You have no idea about your ties.
ian crossland
What about your right to be sovereign?
tim pool
Ian, there's an opportunity for you in Thailand.
ian crossland
Because the opportunity.
tim pool
There's been, well, so this is like 10 years ago, but there were massive protests against monarchy in form of a parliamentarian system.
And so you had the red shirts and the yellow shirts and they were fighting.
ian crossland
I don't want fighting.
This is the thing.
I think Britain is in a position to do it peacefully by transitioning their monarchy into a corporation.
phil labonte
I think what Ian's saying is, I was born 250 years too late.
I should have been born so I could fight England.
ian crossland
No, I love...
Every guy that I know from England, every girl is phenomenal humans that are basically like me.
unidentified
They're not making laws.
They're not doing anything.
The king or queen doesn't get to...
ian crossland
Charles, as far as I know, is pretty tight with the World Economic Forum, and that makes me very uncomfortable.
unidentified
But so is Alex Soros.
Yeah, but that's just being rich and connected.
It's what you're saying.
They're not actually influencing the law.
The thing that people are upset about in the UK is that they get a ton of money to live in big palaces and get dressed up all pretty.
That's what bothers people.
They're a net benefit because of tourism and stuff.
That's the thing.
They generate revenue for the UK. 100%.
ian crossland
That dude, Charles, is the king of Canada.
He's the king of Australia.
He's the king of New Zealand.
unidentified
Canada could probably use it.
ian crossland
He's an emperor.
He's a literal emperor.
They rebranded in 1997.
They were like, let's not call it the British Empire anymore.
It's bad press.
Let's call it the United Kingdom.
Let's change the name.
They try and talk like he's just the king.
tim pool
The United Kingdom is specifically...
Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales.
ian crossland
Yeah, they tried to get away from the British Empire thing, but it's still an empire.
tim pool
The empire is the Commonwealth.
phil labonte
The guy's an emperor.
ian crossland
Are you cool with having an emperor?
phil labonte
The British Empire ended, I believe, at the end of...
ian crossland
It's one guy owning and controlling all...
You were just talking about a parliamentary...
phil labonte
They literally have a parliament over there, bro, that they elect!
ian crossland
Tim just asked me what's wrong with an emperor.
It's one guy controlling everyone.
unidentified
But that's not what the UK is.
What are you talking about?
ian crossland
It's the British Empire.
tim pool
They have a House of Commons.
ian crossland
They do.
In name.
And they can be replaced.
The governor generals can replace the prime ministers at will.
And at the pleasure of the king is what it says.
Read the laws.
tim pool
Why not any other country?
Why only this one?
ian crossland
It's Britain.
It's Australia.
It's England.
It's Australia.
It's New Zealand.
unidentified
It's Canada.
tim pool
Mine is worse.
unidentified
I would love to, like Ian, be upset about something that's not an actual problem.
You know what I mean?
I'm like, that's...
ian crossland
Yet.
That's why I'm talking about it now.
Because it's not a...
unidentified
You need, like, more problems.
ian crossland
I look far in the future.
tim pool
I would like to take the clip from this show.
Take that clip and then make a cartoon where, like, ten years later, Britain reinvades the United States and conquers it.
ian crossland
If you're cool living under an emperor when it's chill, you're going to be screwed when it's not anymore.
phil labonte
I really strongly believe that it is not the situation that you believe it is.
ian crossland
Well, I can see what it could become.
And we cannot live under imperialism.
unidentified
I don't even know what we're arguing about anymore.
We're not.
I'm the captain now.
I'm the captain now.
And I'm moving us along.
I can't handle this.
I cannot handle this conversation anymore.
This has become ridiculous.
ian crossland
Kamala Harris represents imperial strategy.
She was placed in...
tim pool
It's a white hat.
ian crossland
How can you guys not care about Kamala not getting a primary?
tim pool
It's a white hat that says, make America great.
ian crossland
I apologize.
tim pool
It's light mega.
unidentified
Exactly.
It is sometimes frustrating to be in the...
Oh my god.
tim pool
Are you going to stop talking?
ian crossland
If you do...
tim pool
Bro, we're trying to move on.
You keep saying the same thing over and over again.
It's been 10 minutes.
You just keep talking.
Okay, so Light Maga, that's like the opposite of Elon's Dark Maga.
unidentified
But you know what?
I actually, I had the pleasure of meeting Antonio Brown at this Pittsburgh voter registration thing on Sunday, and I was wearing my Dark Maga hat, and he took it.
He took my hat.
What did he do with it?
He wore it.
tim pool
Did you call the police?
unidentified
No.
Well, they wouldn't arrest him.
But that was a bad joke, if anyone really got like the depth of that joke.
But no, he wore it.
And then he was in the box with Trump at the Steelers game wearing my hat, wearing this dark MAGA hat that was given to me by a friend.
And so it wasn't really my hat.
But like, you know, my hair had been in the hat.
So like, technically, I was like, almost in the box with Trump.
ian crossland
Wow.
unidentified
Try not to be jealous.
But I did want to say something about that game, which is I was at that Steelers game for most of it, and they were not panning to Trump.
They were not talking about him being there at all.
It was so different than the Alabama game.
If you remember the videos from that where the whole, you know, it was crazy and they kept shooting over to him.
It was as if Trump wasn't in the stadium.
Which, I mean, Pittsburgh is dark blue, but there are a lot of MAGA hats in the crowd, but there's something there.
tim pool
I mean, Pittsburgh is not too far from here, and it is.
There's a university up there, and it was funny.
I saw some flyer posted up near the university out there.
I can't remember which university.
I don't know.
What university is it?
unidentified
Pittsburgh University.
tim pool
And it was just like, it was like Charlie Kirk is a fascist or something written on it and he's coming and I was like, this is so ridiculous.
But a bunch of people I met were like, hey, we're big fans, you know?
unidentified
Yeah.
No, listen, I was wearing a MAGA hat and people, I get compliments.
I get compliments in New York.
I was with a friend in the West Village in like the heart of Manhattan last week wearing, I was wearing my black MAGA hat with white writing.
He was wearing a Boston Red Sox hat and he got all the hate, all the FUs to that Boston hat and my MAGA hat got all the love.
Well, I mean...
Something is different.
phil labonte
Look...
If you wear a Boston hat in New York City, that's...
I mean...
unidentified
Yeah, but what does it mean that in 2020...
I was living in New York in 2020, and I didn't wear the hat because I didn't want to be punched in the face.
Because I was calculating, can I afford...
Do I want to go through dental surgery if someone punches me in the face because I'm wearing a MAGA hat?
And now...
It won't happen.
tim pool
Yeah, it doesn't happen anymore.
There was a period, but now people have basically chilled.
And I think this is the...
That's why we did this show last week where we were talking about Andrew Schultz when he said Trump's going to win a landslide.
He did an interview with him.
Everyone was giving him the nod.
And I'm like, that's the normie people down to earth.
We're politicos.
We're trapped in this space.
We watch the news all day.
We know about Kamala.
We know about Trump.
Regular people who don't pay attention and don't want to pay attention nodding to you and you're a comedian and you're like, I don't know nothing about this, but man, everyone loves Trump.
That sounds like Trump's going to win.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Or at least Trump's won the argument.
I don't know what the shadow campaign is going to be this time.
unidentified
Right.
You could be right.
It doesn't mean you win.
That's the hard thing.
tim pool
Democrats are going to be like, we found ballots on the moon.
They're coming back from the space station.
Remember they were trapped up there?
unidentified
We found ballots.
We've got to bring them down.
And you know who brought them back from space?
phil labonte
Elon Musk.
Historically, the Democrats have had such a really good ground game, such a really good get out the vote.
I don't know, whatever you want to call it, but they've been so good at getting...
unidentified
Ballot harvesting?
phil labonte
Well, I mean, yes, ballot harvesting, but the organizing that the left does is significantly better than the organizing that the right has done historically.
So I'm always concerned with the ability of the Republicans to get the votes out the way that they need to.
Seeing the advanced numbers and stuff, I saw Mark Halperin was talking on his podcast that if things keep going the way that things are going, if there's no significant changes, that we'll know that Donald Trump will win on Election Day before any of the like right when voting starts. that we'll know that Donald Trump will win on Election
That if things continue this way, there won't be any way for the Democrats to come back, which I would love to see clearly, but at the same time, because the Republicans have such a bad history with it, I'm always apprehensive and I'm always I say it on X all the time.
You need to go vote.
If you can go vote early, go vote early.
I voted yesterday.
What's today?
Tuesday?
I voted yesterday.
I was in New Hampshire in the morning.
Cast my vote.
Already done.
Done deal.
Go vote.
If you can vote early, get it done.
Get it out of the way.
So...
mary morgan
That's why it feels like there's a little bit of a false security going around.
phil labonte
Yeah.
mary morgan
It's kind of a psyop.
Like, oh, he's got it in the bag.
phil labonte
No, no.
He can always lose.
tim pool
What if on November 4th, Kamala's walking from a campaign event and then there's a burning building with a bunch of kids screaming.
She runs in and rescues a bag full of puppies and two small children.
And then her polls just jump 50%.
unidentified
She can't do anything simple well, right?
Remember the whole photo op they had with her records?
She was walking out of that record store and they're like, what do you have?
And before they even asked her the question, she's like, and she's like already going to answer the question.
And no, they can't do that with her.
Yeah, because she knew what it was.
tim pool
They said, once you go outside, the press is going to ask you about your records.
She's like, okay.
unidentified
Now they're like, we're going to take you to our record.
Yeah, because who has time when you're running for president to go buy records and it's like, you know, all...
tim pool
It was staged.
unidentified
Oh, it was staged.
tim pool
Yeah, that's the same.
All these campaign events are the same thing.
unidentified
It's like Tim Walls with his gun.
Oh, that was so painful.
tim pool
I agree.
It's fine to say that she's bad at it.
I don't care that she goes to the record store.
She's just like, she's awkward.
unidentified
She couldn't get Doritos handed to her.
tim pool
She got extra Doritos because they kept throwing Doritos at her.
They were all trying to throw Doritos at her.
I mean, for real, that happened.
mary morgan
I feel like she must kind of part of her wants to lose at this point.
unidentified
She's probably exhausted.
tim pool
I agree.
I think, I think, I don't think she wants to.
mary morgan
She doesn't want the smoke.
tim pool
I don't think she ever wanted to be president.
unidentified
Yeah.
That's why Michelle Obama was smart because I was very worried that they were going to be able to convince her to run because she probably would have won.
mary morgan
Hill Dog wanted it so bad.
And she's so mad it's not her.
But Kamala doesn't even...
She doesn't really want to win.
tim pool
I don't think so.
mary morgan
She could take it or leave it.
tim pool
I think she's just like, why am I here?
mary morgan
Yeah.
tim pool
You know?
That's why she can't really answer questions.
Oh, man.
That Fox interview when Bret Baier was just like, you know, 70% of people say the country's on the wrong track.
Why is that?
She's like, well, Donald Trump is running.
And he's like, what?
She's like, you know what I mean.
And he's like, no, I don't.
unidentified
He's like, I have no...
phil labonte
She went back to what she was used to, which is the people that are doing the interview will bail her out.
And she was hoping that Bret Baier was going to do that as well.
And thankfully, he's not a shill the way that ABC and NBC and CBS and everyone else has kind of been for her.
But that's really what was on display.
She kind of was floundering, and she was like, well, I don't really have an answer, so I'm just going to go ahead and be like, hey, throw me a lifeline.
And Bret Baier's like, sorry, sister, you're on your own.
tim pool
Indeed.
No one's saying anything.
unidentified
I was debating if I can make a joke, but it wasn't very family-friendly about the kind of job she used to do to get this job.
tim pool
We can say that for the members-only show.
unidentified
For the members-only show.
tim pool
Where we will enjoy gentle musings about Kamala Harris's sordid past.
phil labonte
You definitely don't want to miss that.
tim pool
Gentle.
Gentle.
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Alright, so there have been so many super chats that YouTube has begun deleting many of them.
So we'll just try and read what we can.
We've got Michael Cooper who says, Did he crap on West Virginia?
mary morgan
I didn't hear anything about that.
unidentified
I haven't seen this.
phil labonte
Well, it's a drag.
tim pool
Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about, brother.
Not sure.
The unlubricated salmon says, congrats on both the wedding and the kiddo.
I've been hoping this day would come for a few years now, and I am stoked.
Consider this a little something to help get some baby clothes.
Thank you very much.
I really do appreciate it.
Got a bunch of texts, as it were, from all the big fans and friends of the show saying congratulations.
I really do appreciate the support.
All right.
Gwedlook says, Tim, if I remove the cover of my pillow, is the adjustable fill all that remains?
unidentified
Wow, that was well said.
tim pool
An adjustable fill of the MyPillow.
mary morgan
I'm thinking about a Phil Labonte body pillow.
phil labonte
Oh, don't think about that.
mary morgan
You think that's hot?
Maybe there's a market for this.
phil labonte
You want a market of Phil Labonte MyPillow body pillow, I will not.
mary morgan
Like the anime version of you.
tim pool
Big hands.
I mean, that'd be absolutely fantastic.
I would also say, I don't think you've missed your opportunity.
Sounds like you're, you know, interested, and you should.
But that's another big consideration for us.
You know, we want to do this for a long time, but we run a company.
I mean, we're working all the time, both of us.
And so we are trying to figure out how to make time to be able to have a family.
And we decided we're just going to not have the time and just force it.
phil labonte
Everybody that I hear talking about kids, they're like, look, there's never a right time.
You never have, like, people make all kinds of excuses.
But real good.
tim pool
I'm not saying that we are waiting for the right time.
We wanted to do this a while ago.
The issue was there was no time because we're working 16-hour days running a company.
And so, you know, I've been talking about it's a spiritual suicide, in my opinion, to not have a family.
And, you know, so I certainly think we had to figure out what we're going to do.
But I think we're looking at some options, and I think scaling back a bit is one thing that's going to help make it all possible.
Yeah.
But that means we'll still be able to do the morning show and Timcast IRL still.
And then we're pursuing strategic investment.
And then, you know, basically making the company move to the next level.
We've got some good moves coming.
We'll see what happens.
All right.
Let's go.
Dad's Cigarette Run says, so are we just not going to talk about Phil's shirt?
Are we going to talk about Phil's shirt?
phil labonte
It's sick.
tim pool
What is it?
mary morgan
I just said this the other day.
I was so jealous of your shirt.
tim pool
All Saints?
phil labonte
It's just a striped shirt and people apparently have opinions on it.
I mean, it looks great.
I know if you don't think it looks great, you have bad taste.
I'm confident in how sick my shirt is and I don't care if you like it or not.
tim pool
Adam Smith said, if Macca's dropped gluten-free keto buns, they would do well.
Love me a quarter pounder but don't need the carbs.
I agree.
I completely agree.
The problem with a lot of the...
Look, you'd have to do an almond bun because here's what you do.
You take almond flour, you put an egg in it, you put it in the microwave and it turns into a light biscuit.
And you can make sandwiches with it.
It's pretty good.
That's keto.
It's good.
It's got fiber.
It's got vitamins.
Almonds are real good for you.
I wouldn't want to do any of that psyllium husk or whatever it is.
The weird things they do for keto bread.
I'm not interested in whatever that is.
ian crossland
Rice flour is okay.
tim pool
No, rice flour is massively carb.
phil labonte
Yeah.
mary morgan
Maybe McDonald's can just be normal.
unidentified
I was going to say, why don't we just keep McDonald's McDonald's?
mary morgan
McDonald's, yeah.
unidentified
And make America great again.
tim pool
Keep McDonald's McDonald's.
Here's what I'll do.
I'll go to McDonald's.
I actually want to do this.
And I'll get a couple burgers, but then I'll throw the buns away, and I'll make almond buns for myself, and no one has to worry about anything.
ian crossland
Yeah, I toss the buns.
It's kind of a waste.
tim pool
You get a ramekin, you put the almond flour and the egg in it, you put it in the microwave, and it fluffs up, and then you cut it, and I make...
unidentified
I will say, Brett is the killer in this country.
I do think RFK being a part of a Trump admin is really exciting.
And this is actually how I think maybe we get some of the girlies to vote for Trump.
Because if you could, all these like celiac girls in this country, if they were told that they could have pasta and bread the way that you can when you go to Italy...
mary morgan
Vote Trump.
unidentified
Oh, I heard him talking about Roundup.
Fewer tummy aches, ladies.
ian crossland
That's a lot of that gluten intolerance is coming from, according to him.
Roundup, which they'll spray on crops, which is Monsanto's glyphosate, is a herbicide.
And then they'll use it as a desiccant before they harvest to dry all that stuff out.
It's just...
tim pool
Yo, this super chat here got Ian good.
Look at this mystical goat.
He got you, Ian.
He says, Ian puts graphene in coffee.
ian crossland
Not true, mystical goat.
It's not true.
Never, never have I done that.
tim pool
We went back to the studio yesterday because this one wasn't working and there's little mushrooms all over where you used to sit.
ian crossland
Yeah, they're still there.
unidentified
Yeah, yesterday.
Thank you for having me on as the first guest of the Cancelled podcast.
tim pool
Yeah, that's what it is.
Timcast is Cancelled.
unidentified
I didn't know if I was showing up to West Virginia and nothing was going to be here.
ian crossland
Took a risk.
All right.
tim pool
Trey Woobles says some rich guy had high cholesterol and blamed McDonald's because they used tallow for their fries.
He sued until they changed oils.
Demons exist.
unidentified
Whoa.
That doesn't sound real.
tim pool
I heard Outback does tallow.
Is that true?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
I don't know.
tim pool
Heard that?
I like Outback.
ian crossland
Yeah?
tim pool
Those big onions are great.
But, you know, I don't want the carbs anyway, so.
ian crossland
And I have not even eaten out at all.
I can't.
unidentified
Yeah, I cook at home as much as I can.
tim pool
I just eat wings.
It's like the only thing I eat.
unidentified
You can't do wings at home.
Wings out are really good.
Yeah.
tim pool
I haven't eaten anything today.
Today, I had, for breakfast every day, I have two egg omelet with goat cheese and avocado.
And a protein shake.
unidentified
And that's all you had today?
tim pool
All I had today.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah, I need to eat something.
unidentified
Is there anything else in your body?
mary morgan
It says Outback uses pure beef towel.
tim pool
Outback does?
mary morgan
Yeah.
tim pool
Ladies and gentlemen, Outback is based.
And butter.
You know what really, really makes me angry?
Every single breakfast place you go to, they don't use real butter.
They spray the grill with that nasty spray.
Martinsburg Family Diner out here has real butter.
I doubt they use real butter on the grill.
I don't know.
But they give you real butter for your food.
And I'm like, that's it.
I'm not going anywhere else.
And I hate to be a dick.
There's some really nice little diners run by some little families out here in West Virginia.
And they hand you butter and it's soy hydrogenated salt garbage.
And I'm like, I'm not eating that.
It's not food.
unidentified
That's why everyone has low tea and everyone's infertile.
That's why.
tim pool
No hydrogen into us.
I want whipped butter.
Whipped butter.
phil labonte
Whipped butter is awesome.
tim pool
You gotta butter your bacon.
ian crossland
Heavy cream, you just put it in a mixer?
Really?
tim pool
Keto.
phil labonte
Butter the bacon?
tim pool
Butter the bacon.
ian crossland
Butter and bacon?
tim pool
You just gotta butter your bacon.
ian crossland
Dude, it's nice to eat just a piece of butter every once in a while.
If you're not getting it in your diet, it is so good for you.
tim pool
That is a little too much for me.
ian crossland
Cut off a little chunk.
tim pool
People need to understand, keto is high fat.
And I say it a lot because a lot of people are like, I'm doing keto, I'm gonna order the steak.
And I'm like, okay, well you need fat.
So you need like sour cream, avocado, heavy cream, something.
Otherwise you're not doing keto.
phil labonte
Baste your steak with butter.
tim pool
Oh, that's a given.
Herb butter.
You get a philip mignon.
Yeah, you fill a mignon with herb butter.
We speak like regular people on the show.
We're not French.
unidentified
Filet mignon.
tim pool
Let's go.
All right.
Hitman says, boo, liberal Ian being a liberal, boo.
He hates fun.
ian crossland
I definitely don't hate fun.
I'm almost obsessed with it.
mary morgan
Did I start a trend?
We're gonna boo Ian now.
phil labonte
No.
mary morgan
I feel bad.
unidentified
Don't feel badly.
Do you remember that whole conversation we had before?
mary morgan
Yeah, now that you're reminding me, it's not so bad.
tim pool
All right, YOFET says, Tim N. Crew, Tulsi Gabbard just announced she is joining the Republican Party at the Trump rally in North Carolina.
phil labonte
Here, here.
tim pool
That is based.
We need good Republicans.
The Democrats are bad, the Republicans are almost entirely bad, but there's a handful of good Republicans, so the more the better.
The more the better.
That's great, too, because Tulsi's moderate, you know?
And so she's shifting in the right direction in terms of, like, guns and energy.
I respect that.
Alright, Rock and Roll says, first time Super Chat, but long time fan.
Maybe part of the solution to ease your burden is to...
Well, we're gonna...
Yeah, we could have...
We have Phil here.
So, the goal for Phil was to have him be able to pick up shows when I'm not able to do it.
ian crossland
What if it came down to the point where the only guy in the studio is Phil and he's like, I am all that remains.
That joke is so played out, but that'd be hilarious.
phil labonte
You know, I'm not gonna beat up anybody about it.
I'm not gonna give anyone a crap about it, but...
tim pool
Tryin54 says, Congratulations, Allison.
It's about time, Tim.
Will there be baby hair products on the register?
Also, has Allison authorized a beanie for the altar?
I don't believe so.
And I don't know about baby hair products or whatever, but people are putting hashtag beanie baby.
That is a trademark.
unidentified
That's really cute.
phil labonte
You're probably going to get about a million little beanies for gifts.
unidentified
Baby beanies.
phil labonte
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Yeah, but don't squeeze that guy's head.
Let him let his brain grow.
tim pool
Okay.
ian crossland
Or girl.
I don't know.
tim pool
It is a girl.
ian crossland
Oh, cool.
tim pool
James Marshall says, First time Super Chat.
Just want to say thanks for the amazing show and congrats.
I'll support TimCast no matter how it airs.
Thank you again.
Well, I appreciate you guys.
I appreciate the support over here.
Basically, every single Super Chat is just basically saying the same thing, so I don't know if I want to...
I appreciate all the Super Chats and support.
Let's see.
Let's try and find a super chat.
Barrett says, this is for Phil and a nod to Mary in PCC. I still have custom leather jackets I want to give you.
I'm exceptionally glad to see Mary M and Phil.
mary morgan
What is this?
Leather jackets?
phil labonte
Custom leather jackets.
ian crossland
Oh, sweet.
mary morgan
There's no P.O. box, so I don't know.
ian crossland
I was thinking about spinning one up.
mary morgan
You're going to start the P.O. box?
phil labonte
If I could get a P.O. box.
ian crossland
I got a message about some sweet band t-shirts with you guys.
You in it, me in it.
They want to send it somewhere, too.
We should set up something, even if it's an independent box.
phil labonte
Send me a DM on the old X, and I'll get you the P.O. box.
mary morgan
Nice.
tim pool
Space Panda, the only whale of a conspiracy there is is where Seamus is hiding all of your spoons.
ian crossland
Where is Seamus hiding in general?
I want to know.
tim pool
He's gone.
ian crossland
Did he leave town?
tim pool
He's gone.
ian crossland
He skipped this shit.
tim pool
He's coming back.
ian crossland
Good.
tim pool
He will be back soon.
ian crossland
Coughlin.
tim pool
And he will then make jokes.
You know, I just want to say, Seamus is very funny.
We were hanging out here over the weekend and we watched this really awful movie.
And then Seamus, he's like, the whole time we're watching it, Seamus is making jokes.
And then, I would say, like, Seamus would make 90% of, he would make a joke and contribute 90% of the fun and laughter.
I'd throw in about 10% on top.
I'm just trying to say, like, me and him are riffing, but it's all him, basically.
As soon as he's like, okay, we're gonna get out of here, we put out another movie, that was actually good, but we were bored.
Because when Seamus was sitting there, it was like Mystery Science Theater 3000 or whatever.
phil labonte
Seamus is hilarious.
tim pool
Where he was just mocking the film, and so it made this terrible film hilarious to watch.
And I was like, dude, we gotta do like a film companion podcast with Seamus Coughlin, where we just like, hey everybody, we're gonna watch this movie, press play now.
And then you watch the movie and then you're listening to Seamus make jokes.
Dude, I gotta say, shout out to Seamus because it was painful.
It hurt.
We were laughing so hard.
And it was like, this movie was just really bad.
I don't want to say what movie it is, because I feel bad for the people who made it.
unidentified
Okay, yeah, that's good.
tim pool
But it was really long.
It was like two hours, and it was awful.
And it's new, and it's on Amazon or whatever.
mary morgan
No, put it on blast.
I want to know.
unidentified
Oh, now I gotta know.
tim pool
I don't want to put it on blast.
That's mean.
I get that.
unidentified
They're good people?
tim pool
I don't know.
They're trying their best.
You know what I mean?
unidentified
Is it just like a generic movie?
tim pool
Yeah, kind of.
And it was like the plot made no sense and it was all over the place.
And I feel bad because, like, you know, these people made a movie and they were probably really proud of it and they're probably really excited to be in it.
And then it's on Amazon.
unidentified
But, you know, before the show, we were talking about how America needs more bullying and we need to bring bullying back.
Yeah.
tim pool
Good bullying.
mary morgan
If I could snap, I would snap.
unidentified
Yeah, but we need to bring bullying back.
tim pool
You can't snap your fingers?
ian crossland
I can snap with my left hand, but not with my right.
unidentified
See, that is good bullying.
tim pool
Your middle finger.
unidentified
Middle finger.
No.
But that's good bullying, right?
But America's filled with all these low-T soy beta guys and jihadi jeans because no one ever bullied them.
tim pool
Okay, the movie was called For Sale.
unidentified
Never heard of it.
tim pool
It's about a guy who's like, he's a car salesman and he rips a bill off and then he gets fired because he rips off the government.
So then he tries to sell a house but the house is haunted and it's just like the haunting takes place during the day and we're like, what?
This is weird.
unidentified
It can't be spooky if it's delayed.
tim pool
And then for no reason he brings this woman as a psychic in and then he just kills her for no reason.
And then he's like, oh no, what have I done?
unidentified
Don't spoil it now because a lot of people are going to go watch it and you actually might have done them a favor.
ian crossland
For sale, check it out.
unidentified
But think about it.
If you didn't say this, it would be like the participation trophy equivalent of movies.
We need standards in this country.
tim pool
No, but I'll tell you this.
The movie is the best movie I've ever seen so long as Seamus is his comment.
If they did a Seamus commentary cut where the volume's turned down and you're listening to Seamus talk about it, then it's the best movie ever.
Yeah, because then you're just like laughing the whole time.
It's a comedy.
That's the way to do it.
Sheamus has got to make that channel.
phil labonte
Come on, Sheamus.
unidentified
He's got to make that channel and we have to bring bullying back to America.
phil labonte
Mystery Sheamus Theater 3000.
tim pool
Yeah.
Yeah, it'd be good.
Blake says, Tim, thanks for staying in the fight and keeping IRL alive.
You're the guy I watch for most of my politics and I really enjoy your opinions.
Keep up the fight.
Well, don't forget, there's also youtube.com slash timcastnews, which is the morning show.
I put up six clips per day and I'm just monologuing on that one.
phil labonte
Let's go!
tim pool
That's really interesting.
ian crossland
Longer the King, what are you talking about?
Yeah, red light therapy, different than radiation therapy.
It's just actual, literal red light.
I used to live in a room with a red light on 24-7 in Los Angeles.
unidentified
Are you a lizard?
What?
ian crossland
I don't think so.
unidentified
Sounds like a terrarium.
ian crossland
It was wild.
It could change the colors, but I chose red.
tim pool
Ham sandwiches.
Sun gazing is ancient.
Kings are ancient.
Ian needs to pick a lane.
unidentified
Wait a minute.
ian crossland
That's called a fallacy.
tim pool
Rain says, send Ian to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters.
Yes.
ian crossland
I would love to go out there.
tim pool
Yeah, we should.
Would they have you on, you think?
ian crossland
I'm sure.
tim pool
Do they do guests?
ian crossland
I don't know.
tim pool
Carl's a good friend.
We're big fans of the Lotus Eaters.
I do think it'd be really interesting to have you.
ian crossland
Oh, I would love to fly.
I've never really spent time in England.
I don't think I've ever actually been to England.
I've been to Ireland.
tim pool
He's going to show up and the king's going to be waiting at the airport.
ian crossland
It'd be great.
He's like, we're glad you've come.
Follow me.
And he's got two guards next to him.
I'm like, I don't know.
What choice do I have?
tim pool
He's going to be like, this is how everyone in Britain lives, and he's going to take them on this amazing luxury vacation and be like, when you're a subject of the king, you have everything you've ever tried.
ian crossland
You're free to do as you please.
Well, thank you for telling me that.
Thank you for authorizing my ability to be free.
tim pool
Luke Schmidt says, Ian is 100% correct about the sun.
Getting natural light into your eyes first thing when the sunrise is vital to your being.
You obviously don't look directly into the sun.
Do more research.
ian crossland
Yeah, you don't ever want to focus your eyes on the sun because it can burn your retinas.
But gazing towards the sun is like an ancient practice.
It actually feels really good if you're doing it right.
tim pool
I once went outside and it was raining and Ian was looking straight up with his mouth open and his mouth filled with water.
ian crossland
No, not that part.
That wasn't true.
I was gazing at the sun today.
But I'll do it with my eyes closed a lot of times.
You can still get a lot of the benefits.
unidentified
Right.
But I've heard you're not supposed to wear sunglasses when you're in the sun because your eyes tell your brain that you're in the sun.
And so I've been trying not to do my sunglasses.
ian crossland
I've stopped with them.
unidentified
Yeah, I basically don't.
Unless I'm driving and like really, really cute.
ian crossland
And a lot of times I'll go out and it'll be like, oh, the sun's so bright, the sun's so bright.
But if I just point my head towards it for a little bit, I'll sneeze a couple times and then it's not so bright.
And I can just live normal outside.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
David Ray says, you'd better have a good guest for my birthday on Thursday.
Oh, you know, I don't think I have the guest list pulled up.
Who's on Thursday?
Danny Polishuk?
That's a good guest.
It's going to be very funny.
And then Ryan's next week, I think.
unidentified
Wow, David Ray, no commentary on the current guest.
Just thinking about Thursday.
Thanks a lot.
tim pool
Well, it's not his birthday today.
He didn't say, thank you for getting a good guest.
Not on my birthday.
unidentified
Right?
tim pool
Oy.
phil labonte
You ask for it.
tim pool
Tiffany Nichols says, babies sleep at 7pm.
You don't have a choice.
They follow the sun.
The pod starts at 8pm.
Cancel your morning show instead and spend the days with the baby.
Or we'll do both and just make it work.
We'll figure it out.
We will figure it out.
That's what you gotta do.
You gotta do it.
ian crossland
Dude, the baby's gonna learn all about politics.
tim pool
Oh, the baby's gonna be like a chess-playing ninja wizard.
ian crossland
Yeah, teach kids the chess.
I've been watching a lot of chess masters.
They start learning really young.
tim pool
You know what I realized?
Allison and I were talking about this.
Poker actually is a really great game for kids.
unidentified
It is.
tim pool
It is.
It's teaching basic numbers.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
That's all real.
It's like, my three beats your two.
I win.
unidentified
My brother had a poker ring in kindergarten.
tim pool
Really?
unidentified
Yeah, but he actually got the kids bringing in real money.
tim pool
Oh, wow.
unidentified
So, yeah.
And then they told him they could play with fake money, so he folded the game because he was like, what's the point?
tim pool
Well, I agree.
What's the point, you know?
Trying to play a game of poker with some babies and win some money over here, huh?
unidentified
It's like Rugrats.
ian crossland
Great show, by the way.
unidentified
Great show.
tim pool
All right.
Jeremy Love says, Ian is 100% right from someone that lives it.
The governor general can remove the prime minister if wanted.
Look at Canada right now.
The governor general is wielding power.
The governor general is the royal's hand in government.
ian crossland
Yeah, the governor general is appointed by the king at the king's pleasure and can be taken away at the king's pleasure.
So he's basically the king's dirty man, the guy that goes in and does the dirty work for the king.
So the king's like, I didn't do it.
unidentified
I really wish you hadn't chosen that comment.
ian crossland
He had to give me one.
tim pool
Francis Castillo says, congratulations on the baby.
Been an avid viewer from the Philippines since 2019.
You guys keep me updated in U.S. politics and culture as everything happening there, good or bad, seems to affect us.
Thanks, Tim, cast and crew.
Really do appreciate it.
unidentified
And guest, you're welcome.
All right.
phil labonte
I feel like you own a shirt that just says me.
tim pool
Olvin McGoth says, McGag?
Make America Goth again?
unidentified
But that's still MAGA. It's still MAGA. It's still MAGA. Make America Goth again is still MAGA. I'm talking about you.
tim pool
MAGA? No.
ian crossland
Is it MANA or MANA? Well, I used to call it mana, and then they were like, no, it's mana, Ian.
Secret of mana.
It's not secret of mana.
unidentified
What are we talking about?
In Magic, the card game they were playing earlier, you tap cards for mana.
tim pool
It doesn't need to be magic.
It's mana.
Mana?
ian crossland
It's mana from heaven.
unidentified
That game you were playing when I walked in?
ian crossland
Maybe it's a mix, like mana, mana, or something like that.
tim pool
Mana?
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
I always said mana.
ian crossland
Manna.
tim pool
Everyone I know said mana.
unidentified
Mana.
tim pool
Mana is a term in any kind of spiritual or magical reference that basically means energy.
ian crossland
That's what we called it in the beginning was mana.
tim pool
Like magic power.
ian crossland
Someone came along and was like, no, it's mana.
And I was like, I don't know.
unidentified
Probably it comes from mana.
ian crossland
I call it a cat.
tim pool
So that's why I say maga.
I'm from northern Ohio.
unidentified
You say maga?
Because...
tim pool
Well, not maga.
Yeah, and then everyone's like, Tim, you're wrong.
It's maga.
unidentified
Maga.
It's definitely less comp, but I think it depends on where you're from.
I've heard people say it both ways.
tim pool
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, Tim, did you actually skate in Trump's golden shoes?
unidentified
The video was on X. Not AI. Just like all your other skating videos.
tim pool
Yeah, it was...
ian crossland
He walked by earlier and was like, Ian, how's it going?
tim pool
Look at this.
This was five kickflips.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
tim pool
And five kickflips and the gold.
After one kickflip, the gold was gone.
ian crossland
Oh, snap.
tim pool
The laces are made of foam rubber, so they're shredding instantly.
The laces are made of foam rubber.
It's crazy.
unidentified
Look at those shoes.
Trump is so gangster.
Like, look at that shoe.
tim pool
So I did a couple kickflips, which is this.
And then I did a nollie hard flip.
We posted the nollie hard flip.
We're going to have a couple pro skateboarders do some tricks on them tomorrow, and then I'm going to ask them to sign the shoes, and then we're going to...
ian crossland
Ooh, cool.
tim pool
Yeah, so it's like, you may think it is disrespectful to scuff the shoes with skateboarding.
No, no.
We're going to do a handful of tricks so that they're marked by these legends of skateboarding, and then have their signatures on it, and they'll be even better.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
These are actually really good...
It's crazy.
So I thought they were going to be like...
Pretty bad.
And I'm like, you know, you're going to get them, you're going to put them on, you're going to be like, yeah, you're not supposed to wear them.
And they slide on like butter.
They're very comfortable.
And look, I skate a lot.
You got to break shoes in.
You know, skating in a brand new pair of shoes, they can be too grippy, you know, you gotta move them a little bit.
These were perfect.
unidentified
Perfect.
tim pool
I put them on for the first time and I was like, wow, they're actually really good.
unidentified
Yeah, MAGA movement glow up.
Like, remember the original MAGA hats?
How funky they look?
They look like those little, they were very floppy and large and they look like clown hats.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
They were really silly.
And now the current, like, you forget what they looked like.
It was the thinner font.
It was smaller.
Thinner hat.
Like, very wide.
Almost like there should be one of those spinny things on top.
It looked really silly.
And now the hats are good.
The shoes are good.
tim pool
Yeah, and so, you know, I think we're trying to make something that's more than just the Trump sneaker, you know?
ian crossland
I like Make America Great Ian Crossland, which is magic.
I'm going to pitch Trump.
tim pool
That's actually, that is magic.
You should make a hat.
ian crossland
Magic.
tim pool
Make America great, Ian Crossland.
ian crossland
I'll sell those on my website.
Get ready.
Merch coming.
tim pool
Magic.
Indeed.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
We'll grab a couple more here.
Joshua Sabedra says, long-time viewer, first-time chat.
Thanks for committing to spread the truth.
My in-laws are currently fighting an Amber Heard-style divorce and custody battle for their four grandkids.
He's a victim of Believe All Women.
Ooh, that's terrible.
That is sad.
101Scooby says, I'll vote for Beanie Baby in 2060.
Yes, indeed.
First female president, then, if that's the case.
One more.
We'll grab one more.
Brepzak.
Tim, congrats.
My wife gave birth to our second child this weekend.
A beautiful baby girl.
Kids are the way.
Definitely make time for them.
We all love you, but you need to take time for your family.
Indeed, I really do appreciate it and intend to.
ian crossland
Yeah, you're gonna get the choice of like, wow, I'm the rich businessman that gets to pick now your family.
And, like, you'll get to be the guy who's like, my family was first, man.
And then you have this, all the money and the fame and the job and all that, but, like, the kids.
tim pool
I was thinking of going the route when, you know, when she's a little older and she walks in the room and she's like, Dad, can you show me?
And I go, oh, it's in here again!
And then, you know, that's a family guy joke.
I'm stealing a family guy joke.
Yeah.
unidentified
Family.
tim pool
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Erin, do you want to shout anything out?
unidentified
Yeah, you can follow me on Instagram at NonLibTake or on X at Erin Wexler.
I'm not good at marketing, so there are two different handles.
But if you search for Erin anywhere, A-R-Y-N-E, you'll find me.
tim pool
Right on.
mary morgan
You can find me on Pop Culture Crisis.
We're going live on YouTube tomorrow at 3 p.m.
Eastern, and I hope to see you there.
ian crossland
You hit me up at Ian Crossland, really all over the place.
Message me on Discord if you want to get personal.
Just message me in general.
I stream live very frequently, so follow me on YouTube, X, and Twitch.
And shout out to you in the super chats and in the comments.
Very entertaining.
I want more.
I'm looking forward to talking to you guys on Discord.
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Join the Discord and meet us up.
We'll talk later.
See ya.
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tim pool
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