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Elon Musk Says PROSECUTE FAUCI After NIH Finally ADMITS To GOF Research w/Pearl Davis | Timcast IRL
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tim pool
So we finally have an NIH official admitting to Congress that, yeah, actually they did
fund gain-of-function research.
Not that it surprised anybody.
I mean, we all knew this.
But the admission is huge now, because Fauci is expected to testify.
Nobody should forget what happened during the COVID lockdowns.
And that's strange, because Fauci said that they weren't funding these things, despite all of the evidence that they were.
You know, I have a question for Trump.
Are any of these people going to go to jail first for lying to Congress, lying under oath?
And then after that, we can explore, I don't know, funding banned, gain-of-function research.
The federal government said you can't do this stuff anymore, and they found workarounds and did it in other countries.
So we're going to talk about that, and I guess...
We're going to talk about Marjorie Taylor Greene and AOC fighting in Congress.
I guess a woman has fake eyelashes and then she got called a butch body.
That's Congress.
At least nobody got caned.
That happened before.
We'll talk about that.
Plus, a couple other stories.
The Diddy story is probably big.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Pearl Davis.
pearl davis
Hi guys, thanks for having me.
My name is Pearl.
I have the YouTube channel JustPearlyThings and TheAudacityNetwork.com.
tim pool
Go right on.
Thanks for hanging out.
Phil's here.
phil labonte
Hello, everybody.
My name is Phil Labonte.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.
I am an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
How you doing, Hannah-Claire?
unidentified
I'm good.
hannah claire brimelow
It's nice to see you again.
phil labonte
It's nice to see you.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.
I'm a writer for scnr.com.
That's Scanner News.
Follow all of their work at TimCastNews on Twitter, unless it's changed its name.
Hi, Serge!
unidentified
Hey Hannah and Claire, I am Scourge.com.
Let's get started, guys.
tim pool
Here we go from the Post Millennial.
I had to pick the most exciting version of the story.
Elon Musk says prosecute Fauci after top NIH official admits funding gain-of-function research at Wuhan lab.
So here we go from the New York Post.
This is the National Institute of Health official finally admits taxpayers funded gain-of-function research in Wuhan after years of denials.
Look at this.
Look at their opening line.
It's about time.
At long last, NIH Principal Deputy Director Lawrence Tabak admitted to Congress Thursday that U.S.
taxpayers funded gain-of-function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China in the months and years before the COVID-19 pandemic.
Dr. Tabak asked Rep.
Debbie Lesko of the Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic, did NIH fund gain-of-function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology through Manhattan-based nonprofit EcoHealth Alliance?
It depends on your definition of gain-of-function research.
If you're speaking about the generic term, yes we did.
Oh boy!
Let's go back in time.
September 9th, 2021.
Newsweek reported the NIH has denied funding studies that would make a coronavirus more dangerous to humans after it was accused of doing so following the release of research proposals.
Alright.
Elon Musk is, of course, saying the dude should be arrested.
I do not see a reality now where anyone could say, and not be ridiculed for saying so, that the coronavirus came from a wet market.
We knew they were doing gain-of-function research.
Jon Stewart goes on Colbert's show and says, the Wuhan Coronavirus Research Center, or laboratory, has a virus emerging in front of it.
Now they're just saying, okay, yes, we did.
The only real question is, is Fauci gonna go to jail?
I kind of feel like the answer is no.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't think he will.
I mean, I hate to say that, right?
Like, I would love to see justice be carried out for this.
But the reality is we're in an election year and, you know, Republicans don't control the Senate.
So they might call him in for some questioning.
There might be some investigation.
But will this actually go anywhere?
phil labonte
The House should absolutely go and subpoena every single person that lied to Congress.
They should haul them in front of Congress.
They should be prosecuted if they lied to Congress.
They should be put in jail if they're found guilty.
I don't expect any of this to happen, but to even think that it shouldn't?
To think that there's an excuse other than just the government doesn't police itself anymore.
That politics takes precedence over, not only politics, but politics and control.
The reason is because they don't want to actually draw attention to the fact, to what they would call indiscretions.
But the blatant outright lies that were foisted upon the American people by the government, they don't want to admit that they do actually actually dangerous things the way that they do,
that they fund things, guarantee that they are doing things
that are just as dangerous right now, that if they got loose would be far deadlier,
and it's just as possible that what they're doing right now gets loose
as it was the day before COVID got loose.
Right, like nothing's changed.
tim pool
They're doing bird flu now.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, I don't know what they're doing, but the point is they're not responsible enough
to be doing it, and they're lying to us about it, and we're not doing anything as a country
to hold our politicians or the bureaucrats responsible.
hannah claire brimelow
I think as politicians, I also think it's all the media talking heads that were like, these crazy people who keep coming up with all these conspiracy theories, they're doubting Lord, you know, Lord Anthony Fauci.
How could they do this?
I'm like, I think every show that put out a talking head that defended it should answer for this, but instead they'll ignore it.
Like, this is, I hate to be cynical, I want to be optimistic, but I think The reality is that, you know, Anthony Fauci is going to retire with the biggest government pension in the nation's history and never face jail time.
phil labonte
We're talking about throwing Americans in jail for saying this.
tim pool
Now, Trump is presumed he's expected to win in November because his polling is good.
It could change.
We have no idea.
But in the event Trump gets elected, do you guys think anything happens?
phil labonte
No.
pearl davis
No.
Do you really think Trump's going to win?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Right now, based on the data before us, it looks like if the election were held today, Trump won.
pearl davis
I love Trump, but I feel like he won't win because they stole it last time.
Why wouldn't they just steal it again?
Can you say that on YouTube?
tim pool
Yeah, you should not be able to.
You can say it now.
pearl davis
Sorry.
tim pool
That is the big argument.
We've been talking about this, the shadow campaign.
That's what Time Magazine referred to their behind-the-scenes effort to do things that were, let's just call it, untoward.
And they called it the shadow campaign.
Time Magazine literally called it a conspiracy.
Yeah, fair point.
I mean, it's tough right now.
We were talking with Betty Johnson about this the other day, because one thing we've brought up It's actually fascinating to hear this from Benny.
I mentioned that I've been hearing these rumors that Trump picked Rubio to be his VP, and if that's true, Trump is going to win, not because Rubio is the best candidate who's going to help bolster Trump, but because it sounds like Trump cut a deal with the establishment, and that's Rubio.
And then you have Betty Johnson coming on saying something very similar, but also adding the points about how Rubio is actually considered to be a good option for him in terms of, you know, he can speak Spanish and he can appear on Univision, things like this.
So I feel like with those rumors, it may be as simple as Trump cut a deal with the deep state.
And the reason why they're not going to steal it from him is because He cut some kind of deal.
Now, this is what Benny said.
He's the dealmaker.
That's what he does.
Why wouldn't he do that?
And it doesn't necessarily mean he lost.
It just means you're not going to get everything you want.
And maybe they go to Trump and they say, OK, we're going to cut the BS.
We're going to drop the prosecutions.
It's going to slowly go away.
We'll do it slowly.
You're going to win.
No arrests.
hannah claire brimelow
I think it's possible that there's deal making.
I think that's always been true of any presidency when they're selecting their vice president, right?
There's always some sort of promise.
Same thing with like cab numbers or anything else.
The issue for me is not whether or not Trump wins in November.
It's definitely more what happens to the House and Senate.
You know, you could have Trump in office, but If he's completely gridlocked for the first two years because, you know, both Congress and the Senate go for Democrats who are going to block anything that he tries to get through or just, you know, push proposals that he's going to end up vetoing, you know, we don't really go anywhere.
The vice presidency is interesting for a number of reasons, partially because You know, for me, I think the Vice President should champion immigration.
He should keep everyone's feet to the fire in terms of closing the border.
But I don't know that anything matters if you can't get anything through Congress and the Senate.
What do you think is going to happen?
pearl davis
With Trump or with Fauci?
hannah claire brimelow
Either one.
pearl davis
I just think that if they stole it last time, they'll do it again.
I think that's a good point, that he might cut a deal, but I don't know.
tim pool
I think so.
pearl davis
I'm a little blackmailed.
tim pool
But then what do you do?
pearl davis
I mean, I vote.
That's all I do.
unidentified
Yeah.
pearl davis
I don't really follow this too closely, like the political stuff.
tim pool
I feel like your average person no longer cares about this stuff.
hannah claire brimelow
They care about it, but it's like outrage that's in the past, right?
They're gonna be like, that was not good, but they don't feel like this is the issue that's most pressing to them.
tim pool
Right now, that's on the shelf.
It's like, here's our shelf of grievances, and we want some kind of justice, accountability.
And sitting on the table is the immigration issue, the invasion at the border.
So this is big, but I feel like people are going to be like, oh, Fauci?
Yeah, I don't know.
And that's the problem.
It's the short term memory.
If there is no criminal prosecution, it happens again.
phil labonte
Yep.
Yeah, this is not something that's on the top of mind of most people.
I think the people that still think about COVID regularly are the people that you see walking around wearing masks, and they're not inclined to look to punish government, which is crazy.
They're still scared of this.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, and they would say, by any means necessary, this was justified, right?
They would probably be okay with any kind of risk.
phil labonte
Wait, hold on, what do you mean?
hannah claire brimelow
I think someone who is still worried about COVID today would just be like, well, the vaccines were necessary, so anything they needed to do to make that happen.
phil labonte
Yeah, but this is beyond vaccines.
This is talking about creation.
tim pool
Making the virus.
hannah claire brimelow
So what I'm saying is- No, I think they wouldn't care.
I think that they would be like, well, it was an accident, and the government wouldn't do that to us, and we needed the vaccines, and this, that, and the other.
I think they are so consumed by not doubting the government that anything the government was doing, they would justify it.
tim pool
But no, no, no.
This is the gain-of-function research before.
hannah claire brimelow
Even creating it, I think that they would justify any actions themselves.
tim pool
But does it make sense?
This is the gain-of-function research before the pandemic.
hannah claire brimelow
Sure, what I'm saying is just, like, anything the government does, people who are still worried about COVID, no matter how COVID came to be, they would just agree with the government.
tim pool
I get that, but this would be something slightly different.
Like, this would have to be them saying, well, we needed to do this research for X reason, not because of the pandemic that didn't exist, they had to make the virus of the pandemic.
I don't understand what you're saying.
hannah claire brimelow
I just think that they would agree with whatever—like, if they were to say, like, well, Fauci thought that the research was good, we would trust him, and he must have had good reason, and it's not his fault.
I think they would take the side of the government.
tim pool
Then I'd love to hear your run-of-the-mill liberal be like, the pandemic was a good thing.
That's like, okay, I guess.
If that's their position.
So it does put them in a really weird spot.
If you're having dinner with a liberal family member and you say, oh, did you hear that the top official, Dr. Tabak, I think his name was, said that they actually did the gain-of-function research at the Wuhan lab, that it was paid for by us, that's what ended up making these viruses.
And then if they go, well, it was a good thing the government was doing it anyway, and then the pandemic happened, you'd be like, oh, you're pro-pandemic, okay.
phil labonte
I don't know what a person would do when presented with that, you know, that, uh, that information.
I don't know.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, I could be wrong.
Someone who's super COVID anxious might be like, how could they do this in a world collapse?
But I just think it's the type of personality that is like, who really believed, you remember the Dr. Fauci worship candles?
Like, he had such a cult following that I really think there are people that are like, no, no, he is the savior of us all and he wouldn't do anything wrong.
tim pool
And I had a Fauci bobblehead and Luke broke it on purpose.
I'm like, why did you do that, Luke?
Why did you break my Fauci bobblehead?
And we also have, I think we have a Cuomo candle.
I think there's a Cuomo.
We have a Fauci one and a Cuomo candle.
hannah claire brimelow
I gave Brett Dasvick of Pop Culture Crisis one of Tom Cruise because he always told me that he's a great actor.
And I was like, that's good for you.
tim pool
Let's shift something we can laugh about on this Friday night and just get fire, I suppose.
We have this from Fox News.
AOC, baby girl Marjorie Taylor Greene trade barbs in fiery Garland hearing.
Are your feelings hurt?
Lawmakers had convened for a hearing to hold Attorney General Merrick Garland in contempt.
And, uh, oh man, should I?
Should I?
So Marjorie Taylor Greene says this lady's got fake eyelashes, then AOC's like, I want those those words stricken, how dare you talk about her face or whatever.
And then this woman, I think it's Jasmine, is that who it was?
hannah claire brimelow
Jasmine Crockett.
tim pool
She was like, so if I said a woman had a bleach, bleach blonde butch body, would that be out of line?
And then like the chairman's just like, what is what is happening?
And it's not it's not a good time to have the women in Congress having this kind of I don't know what you'd call it.
Flame?
No.
What do you call it?
pearl davis
Can you imagine the day there's two women world leaders fighting with each other?
Imagine if we had a woman president.
God, that would be terrible.
tim pool
Engaging in personalities.
hannah claire brimelow
The two international female world leaders that I felt like everyone was celebrating for a minute was the Prime Minister of Sweden, I believe, and the Prime Minister of New Zealand, and both have left office.
pearl davis
They always quit.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't even know if they made it to a second term.
phil labonte
Merkel was chancellor for a long time and stuff.
There was the woman in Finland and stuff.
There's plenty of heads of state that are women.
hannah claire brimelow
Is Finland what I'm thinking of instead of Sweden?
tim pool
I think this is the video right here.
pearl davis
If you look up the shortest terms, they're always women.
If you look up the shortest time people have ever been in office, it's always women.
tim pool
Let me, let me, uh, I think this is the video.
unidentified
I'd like to know if any of the Democrats on this committee are employing, uh, Judge Mershawn's daughter.
jasmine crockett
Please tell me what that has to do with Mary Garland.
unidentified
Is she a porn star?
Oh, Goldman.
That's right.
He's advising.
Okay.
jasmine crockett
He's advising who?
unidentified
What?
jasmine crockett
Do you know what we're here for?
unidentified
I don't think you know what you're here for.
jasmine crockett
I think your fake eyelashes are messing up.
unidentified
I do have a point of order and I would like to move to take down Ms.
I do have a point of order and I would like to move to take down Ms. Green's words.
That is absolutely unacceptable.
How dare you attack the physical appearance of another person?
phil labonte
That's not her physical appearance.
She put those on intentionally.
That's not like immutable.
pearl davis
Who said baby girl?
unidentified
We are going to move and we're going to take your words down.
I second that motion.
Ms.
Green agrees to strike her words.
I believe she needs to apologize.
No, no, no.
phil labonte
The chairman's like, what the hell is going on here?
unidentified
It gets crazy.
I'm not apologizing.
There's more.
I am not apologizing.
phil labonte
Everybody watching this is like, Pearl's right, man.
Pearl's right.
unidentified
Mr. Chairman, the minority... I think it's pretty self-evident.
You're out of order.
You don't have enough intelligence.
You're out of order.
Chair recognizes Mr. Perry.
I'd like to strike those words as well.
I'd I repeat again for the second time, yes, I'll shorten my words, but I'm not apologizing.
Without objection!
Wait, there's more, there's more, there's more.
phil labonte
I ain't sorry.
tim pool
Wait, wait, here we go.
jasmine crockett
It's me.
unidentified
Miss Crockett.
jasmine crockett
I'm just curious, just to better understand your ruling, if someone on this committee then starts talking about somebody's bleach-blonde, bad-built, butch body, that would not be engaging in personality correction.
unidentified
A what now?
Chairman, I make a motion to strike those words.
I don't think that's a part of it.
jasmine crockett
I'm trying to find clarification on what she's saying.
phil labonte
Leave it all in there because it's all staying on YouTube anyways.
pearl davis
We're not going to do this.
unidentified
Look, you guys earlier literally just voted to do it.
You just voted to do it.
tim pool
Ladies and gentlemen, Congress is high school.
pearl davis
What are they there for?
tim pool
Okay, so Merrick Garland.
hannah claire brimelow
They're there for a good reason.
tim pool
Merrick Garland.
pearl davis
Okay.
tim pool
What are they trying to hold him in contempt?
unidentified
Is that what it was?
hannah claire brimelow
They want to hold him in contempt because... Who?
Merrick Garland is the Attorney General and he... Oh, okay.
Sorry.
No, no, it's okay.
tim pool
It's... The Chief Law Enforcer.
hannah claire brimelow
Chief Law Enforcer.
And Biden has issued an executive order saying they don't need to release the tapes of his interview with one of the Special Agents investigating... I can't remember what now, but...
tim pool
Biden was being investigated for these documents, and then the investigator was like, yo, this guy's brain is fried, we can't prosecute him.
hannah claire brimelow
They referred to him as like, a nice old man with a not great memory.
And so they've released the transcript, but now they want the whole audio released.
And Biden has blocked them from doing this, which is like, kind of questionable, and ultimately comes down to Merrick Garland, who said, you know, who has ruled against this in the past, and he's been held he's been subpoenaed, he's been voided, so they're trying
to hold him in contempt and also the other part, I listened to this whole hearing today,
they spent a long time being like it's 10 o'clock at night and we want to go home! Like it's
honestly like they're all overtired and having like semi-meltdowns. They all should
phil labonte
have had a Snickers.
They all need a snack.
hannah claire brimelow
We only work 9 to 5 with a lunch break.
You cannot make us stay here.
tim pool
I think it was Jesse Waters.
It might have been Gutfeld.
I think it was Waters.
He said they're all hangry.
He's like, basically, they're supposed to do this morning meeting, but then they got pushed back because these Republicans go to Trump's trial.
And now they're all super pissed off and bent out of shape that they have to work their jobs.
hannah claire brimelow
Marjorie Taylor Greene points out at one point during this, she's like, We used to have to do this all the time when Democrats controlled this chamber.
We used to be here regularly until 11 o'clock at night.
But now, this one time when this is a really big issue, they're like, no, we can't stay here late.
And then the congresswoman from New Mexico was like, she's a Democrat, she got her opening lines, and she's like, well, welcome to Washington, D.C., Republicans!
Like, it's the most condescending response ever.
So it's really, you know, we're sending our best.
They're all bright.
They all want to be there and do the will of the people, clearly.
pearl davis
Yeah, wow.
And now they're getting into, like, a cat fight in this really important hearing.
tim pool
Very important.
Well, I mean, you know, Marjorie Taylor Greene, when she made comments about her fake eyelashes, she didn't say anything negative about them.
What did she say?
Like, I think you can't see through your fake eyelashes or something like that?
She didn't say, you are ugly because of your fake eyelashes.
And then AOC was like, how dare you?
hannah claire brimelow
And fake eyelashes have gotten out of control.
This is a beauty trend I do not like.
Some women have really just pushed the limits of gravity with their eyelashes.
phil labonte
Look, I ain't judging anybody that wears fake eyelashes or whatever.
You can do you.
You can put as much makeup on as you want, right?
But if you're going to do that and someone notices, That is your fault.
You put that stuff on.
So if someone else is like, yo, I noticed this, and I think it looks silly or whatever, guess what?
You put it on, man!
tim pool
At what point should these women be removed from the chamber?
And like, like, there's serious people there, confused.
Comber's like, what's going on?
Like, they're yelling, what's happening?
There's one point in the hearing where he's like, I'm wearing two hearing aids.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
I have no idea what's happening right now.
pearl davis
Well, they shouldn't be there to begin with.
I don't know why we have female politicians, so... Well, because they want to be there, I suppose, but... Yeah, that's gonna... I mean, we've had, like, there are fistfights all over the world.
tim pool
Did you see the parliament in Taiwan?
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
The guy stole the bill and ran off with it.
hannah claire brimelow
There was an American congressman who they were debating, this is I think over a decade ago at this point, they were debating global warming, because that was a big thing at the time, and he went out and like scooped up a snowball and threw it at someone in the chamber.
Like, hilarious stuff happens, but this is just kind of screechy and annoying.
tim pool
Like, if someone threw a snowball at me, I'd laugh.
If we were debating and then somebody grabbed a snowball and chuckled and threw it at me, I'd be like, oh, come on.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, he was like, prove this.
And they were like, how could you do this to him?
tim pool
I would probably laugh and be like, if it caused any kind of damage or whatever, I'd be like, okay, pay for the dry cleaning or whatever.
I don't know if it's snow or ice.
phil labonte
And I'm pretty sure at some point in history there were Congress people that were threatening to shank each other and also had guns in Congress.
tim pool
Yo, dueling was legal in this country for a long time.
hannah claire brimelow
Maybe we should make dueling great again.
unidentified
No.
phil labonte
I mean, look, I'm a volunteerist.
If people want to do that stuff, there shouldn't be any kind of— Sure, but you know what?
tim pool
I prefer—I don't mind trial by combat, but not the death part of it, you know what I mean?
Like, how about this?
If you got beef with someone, you can challenge them to a mutual combat where we have a safe, regulated boxing ring and we all can watch and do pay-per-view.
Then we donate the proceeds, or the proceeds are used for funding government programs, and that's the only way we fund government programs.
phil labonte
Just throw them both body armor and give them handguns?
It's gonna suck, but at least they won't die.
tim pool
I actually think... If they get shot.
phil labonte
Or body armor, at least.
tim pool
You only aim for the center mass and your body armor keeps you alive.
phil labonte
You don't have a lot of time, man!
You're not gonna take a headshot if you're on the clock, you know?
unidentified
Because homeboys... Back in the day... I've been thinking about this for a long time.
tim pool
Dueling was legal, and actually it was at the time what they considered to be progressives who banned it.
And so it's like this older conservative generation that, you know, Aaron Burr, Alexander Hamilton, they want dueling.
And they're like, it's for honor.
Here's the thing about dueling, though.
See, like, people actually think for the most part that people were going and trying to kill each other in these duels.
It was an honor thing.
And my understanding is that Hamilton Was like, I'll have the duel with Burr, under the assumption that I will uphold my honor, and then what you do is, you aim away and you fire, and you both proved your honor.
But Burr was like, I TAKE THE SCREEN!
And actually went for it.
But I like the idea of celebrity boxing.
I like, um, sanctioned, Vegas, big arena.
And then, like, That you're gonna like prove instead of debating on the floor, just you guys, you go and go in the ring, you train, it's it's safe, it's regulated, there's a referee there, you know, no, no untoward behavior, no punching below the belt.
And then whoever wins, you know, congratulations, your billet moves forward, or we strike whatever from the record.
pearl davis
Would you box like conservative influencer boxing?
Who would you box?
tim pool
I don't know if there's anybody I'd box.
Potentially.
But I don't know.
phil labonte
I don't know.
tim pool
I don't know if there's anybody.
pearl davis
You don't have beef with anyone?
tim pool
Nah.
I don't think I have a beef with anyone enough to do one of those celebrity boxing things.
Unless it was like a for fun thing where it was like someone I was actually kind of friends with and we were like, we'll do a fun charity event.
pearl davis
Or like a liberal maybe?
Like one of the streamers or something?
tim pool
I don't think it'd be fair because they wouldn't win.
You know, like, at least with the conservative, they'd be like, Tim, you better train.
Like, you know, it's like, yeah, you're right.
If it's a liberal, I'd be like, well, I'm gonna go have a slice of pizza and let me know when we're ready.
I'm kidding, by the way.
I am joking.
But that is, yeah, that is funny that we're actually seeing a lot of this, like, social media dispute boxing as, like, a thing.
pearl davis
You could box like Destiny, right?
tim pool
Don't I have like a couple inches and like 40 pounds on them though?
I don't know.
pearl davis
It's been a while since I've seen him in person.
tim pool
Yeah, I think I'm just bigger than the guy.
hannah claire brimelow
You'd be in different weight classes?
So you could only box someone who was in the correct weight class?
pearl davis
I don't know anything about boxing.
unidentified
I'm 5'10", 180.
tim pool
I think Destiny is like 5'6", probably like 150 or something.
unidentified
He's taller than me.
pearl davis
I don't know.
tim pool
He's taller than you?
Yeah.
Am I getting his height wrong?
I apologize.
Yeah, I think so.
I don't know how tall you are.
I know you've been here, but I don't really pay attention to that stuff.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, we don't have the thing by the door where it says the heights.
People walk by, you can verify.
tim pool
I must warn you though, I did three classes of Kung Fu.
unidentified
Ooh, you're an expert.
tim pool
Yeah, that's right.
And I did like eight of Capoeira.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you think that people would take the options like if a civil court you're having a dispute with like your neighbor over like you know tree falls and it breaks the fence or whatever you have and it gets the point where you could go to like civil court over it or you could just like one of you could take the other to a boxing ring you know like would people take that as an option to settle disputes?
phil labonte
I mean look, at the end of the day, people can voluntarily decide, okay, we're going to decide this dispute with a boxing match.
Like, there's nothing preventing people from doing that.
Nowadays, there is laws against dueling.
Like, if you were to go and be like, we're going to go and, you know.
Yeah, quick draw contest, you're gonna go to jail.
But like, if you get into a fight over something, I mean, possibly the other person, the loser could be like, well, he assaulted me, you know, but at the same time, you know, doesn't Oregon have like mutual combat laws?
I don't know what states do.
tim pool
Because there was this thing with Antifa, where like a fight broke out.
And then everyone said, if you choose to fight each other, then there's no law broken.
It's like, you're both just idiots.
phil labonte
But I don't think that works with with like, killing.
tim pool
Well, of course.
That's what I was saying.
Like, we don't we don't want that.
phil labonte
Like, the idea that... It's your body, man.
tim pool
I don't like the idea of people because there's too many issues with The finality of it, the end result, I disagree, I disagree.
I think regulated boxing, by choice, like you said, you could literally do that.
If AOC and MTG were upset, they could literally just be like, let's do a sanctioned boxing match to resolve this, and then there's no laws broken.
hannah claire brimelow
So you're saying we could have the Congressional Thunderdome.
Because this reminds me that Mark Wayne Mullen from Oklahoma is like a former MMA fighter.
So this is actually something I would want to see.
If C-SPAN starts televising Congressional MMA fights, I feel like its viewership would just really grow dramatically.
pearl davis
I'd box AOC.
I would do that one.
tim pool
Better yet, how about this?
The primary consists of an election, and the top The top two candidates in any primary have to have a sanctioned refereed boxing match.
And then the winner of that gets to advance.
hannah claire brimelow
Look, we have to as a nation start really prioritizing our physical strength and health.
tim pool
And that's how we get people to do it by, you know, because because it's a blank slate and all people are equal, then like men and women would be fighting in their primaries for and sanctioned boxing matches.
You know what I mean?
hannah claire brimelow
I think we're onto something.
I feel like we should keep workshopping this idea.
pearl davis
I just can't believe women like this trash you got elected.
That's what's baffling to me.
phil labonte
I mean, look.
unidentified
Don't you have to be like, likable to be elected?
tim pool
You're elected by your constituents.
pearl davis
I gotta be honest.
tim pool
My initial thought when I saw this fight breakout was like, this is not going to be good for the feminist argument.
Men are going to be saying like, the women are fighting over their makeup and hair and nails now, and the men are acting confused.
unidentified
And I'm like, yeah, but hold on.
tim pool
There was a caning in Congress before, there was dueling.
There certainly were men of action.
I think for the most part now, the guys in Congress are just like flaccid, lazy, and weak.
And so the real issue is, certainly I don't think this is the issue to fight about.
But the fact that Marjorie Taylor Greene has a fire within her is a good thing.
We should have more members of Congress who actually care and have passion towards their issues.
I don't believe AOC does.
I don't believe Crockett does.
I believe Marjorie Taylor Greene absolutely does.
I think AOC's an influencer trying to build up a big following.
I think Marjorie Taylor Greene actually is like MAGA all the way.
I wish more of the guys were like, I will speak fiercely about the issues I deeply care about, because for the most part, we learned from the Freedom Caucus, none of these people even show up for their votes.
The votes are just like four Republicans and four Democrats sitting there, and then there's some guy who's not even the speaker being like, here's a bill.
And they're like, meh.
It's like, okay, fine, whatever.
And what about this bill?
Meh.
Sure, whatever.
And then the Freedom Caucus came in and started demanding roll call votes, which forced all of these lazy people to actually come in and do their jobs.
Imagine getting paid $174,000 a year to just argue about stuff and you can't even do that.
unidentified
Because I gotta get on the phone and I gotta do fundraising phone calls.
tim pool
I don't want to actually do my job.
My job is fundraising.
My job isn't actually being in Congress.
The bills are written by aides and lobbyists and corporations.
Yeah, I don't know.
This stuff brings me down, I guess.
phil labonte
It's a drag!
hannah claire brimelow
And I don't think this is endearing female politicians or any politicians to the public.
phil labonte
It doesn't endear Congress, definitely.
tim pool
People are saying, like, they want to see me box people and stuff like that.
I gotta tell you, there's likely a direct correlation between fighting capabilities and political alignment.
pearl davis
Wait, who are they saying you should box in the comments?
Is there a request?
tim pool
I think someone said Destiny or something.
pearl davis
What about Hassan?
Isn't he bigger?
phil labonte
Hassan's a big dude, but Hassan doesn't do that at all if I understand correctly.
If Hassan does it with anybody, he will never hear the end of it because Sam Hyde will ruin him forever.
tim pool
I think it's fair to consider like, yeah, how tall is Hassan?
phil labonte
It's like six, I think he's over six.
tim pool
He's a big guy and he works out, right?
Like size, weight class absolutely messes why we have it.
So that's why this idea of just like random people fighting each other.
Again, that being said, I'm pretty sure any right wing like personality of a comparable weight class would obliterate
Hassan.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
It would be a 10 second match, ref would call it.
phil labonte
You see, there's a video that's gone around on Twitter of him like kicking a bag
and like the way that he kicks.
tim pool
Hassan?
phil labonte
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's...
tim pool
So you watch like actually kicking like he does training?
phil labonte
Well like I mean kicking I think he was trying but you you like you watch Joe Rogan kick and then you watch Hassan kick and you're like oh Yeah, that's different.
Those are different things.
tim pool
Joe Rogan kicking a bag sounds like a gunshot.
phil labonte
It's terrifying.
tim pool
That was awesome.
And he's just the commentator for MMA.
phil labonte
He's a bad man.
tim pool
He's been a fighter his whole life.
phil labonte
Yeah, and he's trained and stuff like that.
And Hassan's a big guy, right?
But I've seen the way that he looks when he's done training stuff.
He doesn't look like he trains seriously.
tim pool
I think, for obvious reasons, a liberal guy is going to have lower testosterone, on average, I would presume.
And that's likely due to the fact that people on the right are going to lift more.
There was a direct correlation between working out and being right wing, or more masculine or whatever.
So you've got these guys, they go to the gym, they start working out, they start building muscle, they start getting fit, they're more attractive, they start feeling better about themselves, they start adopting more liberty-minded and individualist worldviews based on the fact that they fought to succeed.
And then you'll have, and this is not absolute, there's certainly a lot of lefties who are fit and exercise and all that stuff too, but on average, So then you're going to have, you take your average person on the right, your average person on the left, and be like, no training, just come together and we'll get you in the ring.
It's going to be like, yeah, the person on the right's probably going to win.
pearl davis
You could even do TradCon versus Red Pill.
I feel like that'd be a fair fight, right?
Because they're both kind of right.
I just think boxing would be fun to watch.
tim pool
I think the testosterone levels are comparable between Treadlife and Red Pill.
There's different worldviews.
That'd be interesting.
phil labonte
What do you think?
There are dudes in the Red Pill sphere that are pro fighters and that are more App to be fighters.
I don't know that there are a lot of trad con guys that are fighters.
hannah claire brimelow
Look at that one NFL kicker, right?
He's healthy and he's like more trad.
phil labonte
An NFL kicker is different to a fighter.
I mean, maybe you're just looking at like sports.
hannah claire brimelow
But like if you're already athletic, right?
Like if you already work out regularly, you could train to fight.
phil labonte
I don't know what condition that guy's in.
pearl davis
I box someone if it was big enough, but it would have to be like, like I said, I would, I don't know how big AOC is, but cause I'm pretty tall for a chick.
I don't box at all, but I think I just, I like good TV, you know?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
I mean, do you think it's part of the entertainment is what people are looking for in online influencers?
pearl davis
Yeah, I think people would watch it.
Conservative bod, watch it.
tim pool
Conservative boxing.
phil labonte
I'm not saying there's not more important things we could do, I'm just saying it'd be fun.
unidentified
There's not more important things we could do. I'm just saying it'd be fun. Well there I mean there are there are
phil labonte
fights There was that I dubs was doing fights for a while, you
know creator clash and stuff like that So, I mean whereas there's not really a whole lot of people
in the political world that are getting into the ring And I think that's probably because they're not actually
Focused on being just content creators that are just you know, trying to do you know that are just trying to do
whatever Do anything to stay on YouTube which no offense to anybody?
I'm not trying to crap on anybody.
If you're an entertainer, then, you know, you'll do stunts and do things like that.
Whereas if you're like, oh, my thing is politics, then you're going to be like, well, I'm, I'm, you know, I write, I read a column or I do this or whatever, you know.
tim pool
How many, uh, this is really interesting, actually.
Uh, how many right-wing personalities Also do some kind of physical sport that you can name.
phil labonte
I mean, everybody that's a right-wing personality lifts to some degree, or exercises nowadays.
tim pool
But I mean, like, Joe Rogan actually is a fighter.
He was a fighter when he was young.
He's the UFC commentator.
He's clearly in very good shape, and there's that viral video of him doing that kick tutorial, and it sounds like a gunshot when he kicks that bag.
Pearl, you play volleyball.
I skate.
Phil, you work out all the time, you're posting videos all the time.
I'm wondering if there's a correlation between playing sports and political alignment.
Because it will translate to you training to improve yourself versus people who don't.
pearl davis
Not for women.
Volleyball basketball players, they're pretty feminist.
tim pool
All still feminist?
unidentified
Yeah.
pearl davis
I mean, it's if you look at like the coaches for volleyball teams and basketball, a lot of them are lesbians.
Like a lot.
tim pool
You know, I noticed this too.
I can't speak for any other sport in skateboarding, but like the overwhelming majority of female skateboarders are lesbians.
pearl davis
Yeah, I think there's something where it raises our testosterone.
Like, I think there's something to that.
tim pool
Yeah, I wonder.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Or it could be an inverse correlation.
Higher testosterone confers an inclination towards sports.
pearl davis
I've heard, and Dana, I'm not saying I'm right, but I've heard that it's actually not good for women to have, like, there's something with it where it raises your testosterone.
I've heard if you look at the WNBA where a bunch of them are lesbians and I've heard it's because their hormone levels are off because we're not meant to have that intensive training, but I'm not a science person.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm not sure about that.
I know that they do say for women when you're going through your cycle, monthly, you should shift the way you're training or working based on where your hormones are.
So I wouldn't be surprised if someone who has competed or like trained in a certain
way, especially like women need more body fat on average to be able to like, you know,
have their period and stuff like that.
So if you're a female athlete, your body's hormones might not function the same way that
someone who is not competing on that level would be and I'm sure there would be long-term
impacts of that, especially because like for all these sports, you start when you're young,
probably before puberty and you keep going afterwards.
tim pool
Can you think of any left-wing commentators who are physically active in some kind of
phil labonte
sport?
And to be honest with you, there's something else that I thought about a lot of right-wing
commentators and people in the right-leaning space, yourself included, they have more than
just the specific thing that they're doing.
You don't do just TimCast, you've got The Culture War, you've got The Cast Brew, you've got all kinds of things.
You've got music, skateboarding, a bunch of different stuff.
Jeremy from The Quarantine's got multiple things that he does.
He has a regular job that's totally not involved with the internet at all.
There are tons of people on the internet.
tim pool
He's got coffee.
He does a marketing company too.
He's a Magic the Gathering and gaming expert.
phil labonte
All the guys that are, clearly all the people at the Daily Wire have multiple things that they have their fingers in and stuff.
And if you look through most of the people that are right-leaning, they have multiple things they do.
You look at the guys on the left, that's all they do is just stream.
Hassan just streams, Destiny, all he does is debate and stream.
tim pool
He's a gamer though.
phil labonte
Well.
tim pool
No, actually, shout out to Destiny.
He actually used to play poker tournaments.
He was a top gamer.
He played StarCraft, that's where it all began.
phil labonte
Yeah, but he doesn't do anything.
tim pool
He just left the left.
phil labonte
He, well, sort of.
He doesn't, he's left to left, but he makes sure to be like, he's not like, I'm not on the right though.
I'm not, you know, I don't like those guys at all.
hannah claire brimelow
So what do you think the relationship is between like having multiple projects and conservatism?
phil labonte
I think the people that get into streaming on the left fall into it.
And I think the people that get into streaming on the right, uh, do it and are also looking to do other things.
They do it because they're looking to do things like they're looking to work this blah blah blah people that are that get into streaming on the left they fall into it they like they start streaming and it turns into something that happens that turns into you know something successful for them but they're not like looking for the next opportunity you're not going to see people on the left that are streamers not saying that there aren't people on the left that do podcasts that do this but like there aren't you're not going to see people on the left that
Are YouTubing streamers that are going to be writing books?
They're not writing columns.
You're not going to see Matt Binder writing a column.
You're not going to see these people writing books.
hannah claire brimelow
They just kind of stay in one lane?
phil labonte
Yeah, because all they're doing is this is what, you know, they're telling their opinion, right?
But people on the right are actually out here trying to create things.
And I feel like that's something that is because of the attitudes among people that are conservative and that are looking to do something in the business world and stuff.
tim pool
I just think there's a direct correlation between your cognitive capabilities and your political leaning.
If, you know, I'm thinking about, like, how could I, like, in what scenario is Tim Pool gonna be a leftist?
It's not possible.
Because even if you hold the opinions that, like, we should have socialistic economics, you're still going to be like, after all of the research I've done, Joe Biden did in fact engage in a quid pro quo with the president of Ukraine over the Burisma investigation that his son may have been caught up in.
That's a fact!
And that makes you right-wing.
Just because you— So if you were on the left right now, And you're like, hey guys, I'm reading the news, and it does look like Joe Biden did this.
They're like, you're a conservative.
hannah claire brimelow
What's your take on this?
Because you've kind of had an internet career that's taken off.
pearl davis
On like, if conservatives have more hobbies?
hannah claire brimelow
Or like, like having a career online?
Is it just part of a network of things?
Do left people who attack you tend to only be focused on their online career?
Because you have a unique insight into this type of work.
pearl davis
I'm trying to think, because most of the people I've debated are really just like random people on my show, you know?
I'm trying to think.
I'd say in London, like the commentators that go on like Piers Morgan and stuff, it's just like a part-time thing for everyone.
tim pool
Yeah.
Yeah.
We were talking about like fighting, we're talking about hobbies, then I thought about it and I'm like, How many commentators have some kind of secondary thing?
And on the left, it seems to be non-existent, doesn't it?
phil labonte
I was thinking about it. I'm like, what do these guys do aside from it? If any of those guys stop
streaming, they disappear in six months.
tim pool
It's not just that, but on the right, you'll notice people build something.
You just launched—is that your network?
pearl davis
Mm-hmm, yeah, the Audacity network.
tim pool
Yeah, what is this correlation between being like, I'm going to make my own
business and the left being like, I just have a Twitch channel?
phil labonte
Well, the left generally doesn't like entrepreneurship, right?
Like, they don't like ownership of things.
They think that things should be communally owned and etc.
And to start a podcast and stuff like that, it's real tough to start something like that and do it communally.
pearl davis
I wonder if conservatives have just more risk?
Because for me to start the network, it was super expensive, and I ended up losing a bunch of money at first because I invested in a bunch of talents that didn't work out.
Conservatives are more willing to take a risk in business, where the left would rather just stream and keep the money.
The conservatives are more willing to take a risk in business where the left would rather
just stream and keep the money.
unidentified
Yes, but like.
tim pool
I feel like it's a it's a drive to do something to flick.
unidentified
But...
tim pool
Maybe the biggest indicator of a grift is whether or not someone's actively trying to build something, to establish something, to make something solid.
And I don't know if that's necessarily true.
That would mean the entirety of the left are just grifters, maybe.
But they don't necessarily—it's more rare to find on the left, I believe, than on the right.
phil labonte
I've thought about a lot of the people that you see, and a lot of times, I'm sure that there are... The Young Turks built stuff.
pearl davis
That's what I was thinking.
phil labonte
As far as I can tell, there aren't a lot that have done other things aside from their one thing,
tim pool
right? You know, I think too, though, is there's probably also a correlation between people who
are trying to solve problems and people trying to make money. And one of the reasons you might
not actually see these these prominent left lefty streamers doing things is because they're like,
I'm rich, and then they don't, they don't want you to see what they're doing with the money they're
making off of it. And then people on the right are like, we have to succeed, we have to do these
things because they actually want to see it. Again, it's not absolute. There's certainly
Griffiths on the right, but it seems like an inverse correlation. There's the majority on
the left are like, I got paid, I'm done. I have my show, I make a ton of money and I use it on myself.
Then on the right, you You have slightly more people who are like, I made a bunch of money, let's invest and build something so we can build a parallel economy so that we can have physical locations that we can push back, make video games, build culture.
A lot of people, I mean, look at the sponsors.
I love this.
Public Square, every company on Public Square falls into this narrative of like, we have a mission to do good for this country.
The fact that Public Square exists, the fact that Parallel Economy exists, the fact that Rumble exists, I'm sorry, what's Public Square?
It's an app where in order to list your business on it, you have to pledge that you support
traditional family values and free speech and these kinds of things.
And there's a map on it where you can open up a map and look at your area and see all
the businesses that are basically saying, yeah, we agree with traditional moral values
and to varying degrees.
It's not absolute.
It's like the list of things in Public Square.
It's like free speech and the family and things like that.
And you can choose.
Because of this, you now know you can go spend your money.
at a business that supports your values.
I think it was, was it Ryan Long who did this joke?
Who did this?
Where it was like, yeah, I think it was Ryan Long.
Left-wing sponsors versus right-wing sponsors.
And the right-wing sponsor is like, before we get into the segment, Patriot water.
It's water, but only if you're a Patriot.
And then on the left, it's like, and today's video is brought to you by McDonald's.
And today's anti-establishment, teardown capitalism video is brought to you by Citibank.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, this makes me wonder if one of the reasons, and I don't really know, you know, who on the left is just only streaming versus doing other things, but if this is true, if there is a correlation between conservatives having sort of more diverse business interests and leftists not, maybe it's because if you're on the left, How did you start?
have access to all the mainstream money.
Like McDonald's isn't gonna sponsor someone who's too far to the right.
So you actually need to be sort of more of a hustler and say, you know, if I'm gonna make a living
and support a family, it can't just be this one thing.
It's not bringing in enough income.
It's different for someone who is already part of the system and gets to say like,
I'll take that subway check, sounds good.
pearl davis
How did you start?
Like, I actually don't know how you got started in media.
tim pool
In everything, a bunch of weirdos on the internet, cause I've been on the internet my whole life,
we're talking about this protest in New York, not Occupy Wall Street, in fact.
And then Occupy Wall Street kind of just absorbed into it.
And so I had friends who had done work in the Arab Spring with digital technologies and communications, non-profit work.
And I also had worked in non-profits relating to politics, so I went to Occupy Wall Street and I was filming stuff.
And then, because you can't just store all the video on your phone and upload it later, we used Ustream.
I started using Ustream on my phone to livestream everything, and then got a bunch of followers.
pearl davis
Oh, cool.
tim pool
Very simple.
And then traveled around for several years, and then slowly got too recognizable to be able to do it anymore.
hannah claire brimelow
How did you start?
pearl davis
It was just kind of a side thing.
I was in England, and then I...
I just would ask girls from my team to come over after practice and I would say, hey, let's talk about culture, relationships.
There were a couple of clips that went viral.
The first one that went viral was I red-pilled my friend for the first time.
It was a girl on my basketball team where we would come have a debate after practice.
And then there was one show where I was explaining to her that the pay gap wasn't real, which is like, you know, basic conservatism.
But for normal people, they don't really know.
And you could see the wheels kind of turning, she was kind of getting it.
And so I said, Hey, come over later.
And we did like a three hour reaction to Jordan Peterson's Kathy Newman.
Oh, yeah.
I think you should call me the tour guide for that video, because I just used to bring girls on my team to watch it.
And people loved watching someone who kind of follows politics interact with someone that doesn't know anything about this stuff.
And people just liked watching the girls' minds change on stream.
So a lot of people think I'm so mean, I hate women, da-da-da-da-da.
But I've actually spent a lot of hours sitting down with women one-on-one and explaining to them why the pay gap isn't real, explaining to them why Like the most basic stuff.
hannah claire brimelow
And this is while you were in England?
pearl davis
Well, I was in England because I was going to go professional volleyball.
So I was going to do semi-pro and then I was going to go pro in Germany, but then the podcast kind of took off and I was like, I'll do that.
hannah claire brimelow
So were the girls on your team?
British or was it kind of a mix? I'm wondering if the different cultural aspects played into it.
pearl davis
It's super mixed. There was girls from Germany, Spain, Mexico. It's a good amount of Americans,
though, because they recruit a lot of Americans to play there. So it's super diverse. But they're
pretty left. They're pretty liberal. Let's actually jump to the story from
tim pool
the post-millennial. Women's jerseys for KC Chiefs kicker Harrison Butker sell out
after viral commencement speech.
uh...
There you go, ladies and gentlemen.
It's fascinating to me that all of this hate pops up because, even apparently what, like one of the founder, something happened with like administration at the university criticized him or something?
phil labonte
Yeah, well the NFL criticized him, the administration, everybody, like all of the establishment criticized him and it is mind boggling that people are criticizing him.
And I haven't like had a whole, go ahead.
tim pool
I was gonna say, did you guys watch the part where he was crying about his wife being there for him?
phil labonte
Yeah, watched the whole thing.
Like, it was great.
Like, this is the exact message that you want to be putting out into the world.
He did not at any point say anything negative about women that go and decide they want to work.
He didn't say that you can't.
He didn't say that you shouldn't.
He didn't say that you're a bad person for doing that.
He said that he He thinks that this is the way that it should be, and this is what he thinks is good.
And the people that are attacking him are anti-human, right?
Like, they are literally anti-family.
And as much as... I'm not the religious guy sitting at the table here.
I'm the agnostic guy.
And even I understand that if you want to have a successful society, you must have a society that wants to see society replicate itself.
You have to have families.
You can't have an antinatal view, which is exactly what that is.
You can't have an antinatal view and then expect to have your society be successful.
It's going to die.
It's going to die.
You're going to have misery.
There's going to be a massive collapse of the U.S.
economy because of it.
These things aren't just, oh, well, you know, some women aren't going to want to do this, or, you know, you shouldn't say that women shouldn't do, you shouldn't say that women should do
traditional things because some women might not like that or whatever. It's
like the things that you're promoting literally will destroy
society.
It will blow up the US economy if there aren't enough people
contributing and if you stop having kids that's what happens.
hannah claire brimelow
But what if we just import everyone from somewhere else, Phil?
phil labonte
It won't work.
hannah claire brimelow
It's a terrible idea.
pearl davis
I don't endorse that.
I think the future is going to be old mothers and IVF.
I think IVF is going to be very easily accessible.
phil labonte
That's still not enough.
pearl davis
Well, I'm not saying it's good or should.
Yeah, I could be wrong.
tim pool
She's wrong because it's going to be pod babies.
They're not even, the women aren't even gonna, I'm actually, I'm half kidding, you're actually correct, it's just, they're gonna, have you seen that movie, what's it called, like Pod or whatever?
Where they have these eggs, and they take the fertilized egg, and they put it in this plastic egg, and then it incubates, you have to like put- This is a brave new world!
Yeah.
Yeah, it's not gonna be IVF, it's gonna be, it's gonna be called, what would the word be then for it, Pod Baby?
pearl davis
Well, it's gonna be so weird.
We're gonna see, like, such old mothers.
Like, imagine, like, a 50-year-old.
I mean, you see a couple, the 50-year-olds, that just have, like, a new baby.
hannah claire brimelow
Isn't that, like, Hoda from The View or whatever?
Like, she has that show with Bush's daughter?
pearl davis
I mean, you're starting to see it with, like, the rich.
So I think it'll, like, I think eventually it'll be more accessible.
And I've sort of heard that, like, I was in Miami, I talked to a girl, she was 25, freezing her eggs.
Oh, and she said it was pretty much free. So so crazy in vitro means in glass
tim pool
So it would still be called IVF. It's just that once they artificially
Fertilize the egg they would then Place the fertilized egg in a pod
Test tube babies have you seen the the bag that grows the the sheep or whatever?
Yeah a plastic and they put it they put the the they fertilize the goat or the sheep or whatever and then they grew it
phil labonte
A plastic bag that I mean that's possible and there will be people that are gonna do that
But if you have society that's saying having a child will ruin your life
You are going to have people that won't have children at all, never mind later in life, right?
You're just not going to have enough children being born.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, how many people are saying right now you'll see these polls come out where it's young people saying climate anxiety is their number one reason for not having children.
It's not like Oh, it's too expensive or anything.
They're like, but the global whatever we've been told, like, and, you know, in a couple years, I'm sure the science will change and tell them something else.
phil labonte
Listen, if you're worried about global warming or climate change, just go watch An Inconvenient Truth.
It came out in 2006.
Everything in it has been proven wrong.
It's all BS.
Just watch that.
You'll see they're dumb and then you can stop worrying about it.
pearl davis
I don't even know.
I don't even think it's that deep.
Like, I think women just want to do other things.
They want to party and have fun.
tim pool
Well, yeah, I mean, I did hear that girls just wanted to have fun.
That's true.
phil labonte
They do.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, that's Pearl's theme song.
She loves that song.
No, I mean, I think that is true.
It's part of it is culture has to say that, like, being a mom is desirable, and you should want to do it.
I think we've had Many, many decades of girls being told, you know, this is not something you should say, and you shouldn't pursue it, and your career is most important.
And that's why you get these young girls in their 20s freezing their eggs, because they just are saying, this is an inconvenience I have to get through.
The other thing that I think is worth noting is that this NFL player, Bucker, was criticized by other Catholics for criticizing the Catholic Church for basically not taking strong enough stances.
and being concerned about what culture thinks of the church.
Like, it is wild to me that he was like, people should want to have families.
Like, he was also saying to men, you have to be masculine.
Like, and instead the response is like, from all sides, like, how could you say these things?
Except for everyone in the room thought it was good.
phil labonte
That is every bit the positive masculine message that people say needs to be spread.
That is exactly what positive masculinity looks like.
It is not It is not Andrew Tate.
There are good things about Tate.
There are bad things about Tate.
Whatever your opinion is of him, aside, if you want to talk about, especially for the trad people, if you want to talk about positive masculine role models, that's exactly what a positive masculine role model should be.
To think anything else is absolutely ridiculous.
tim pool
Harrison had this point in his speech that none of these people are sharing, where he
says he met his wife in middle school, who converted, and he's welling up with tears
as he says, she's supported me in all my successes and has given me children, and he's about
to cry from like...
It's kind of remarkable what he's saying with his speech.
They are so pissed about it because they need the revolution.
hannah claire brimelow
And they label it as anti-woman.
Like this guy who's talking about how important his family is and what a blessing his wife has been to him.
They're like, he hates women.
I don't think that's the case, team.
tim pool
I put it real simple for everybody.
One day, Harrison wakes up, floating in limbo, and a gigantic face emerges in front of him and says, you are now going to be transported back to Earth in your reality, but you either have to erase your football career, your three Super Bowl championships, and you will be an office middle manager, or you can be the football star, celebrity, wealthy, and have no wife and kids.
And you know every time what he's gonna pick.
hannah claire brimelow
And I wish that was something that we wanted as a society, right?
I feel like we just decided that we were anti-family at one point and we've continued on.
And this isn't true for all cultures.
phil labonte
We didn't decide that.
pearl davis
I would pick the football.
He could just get another wife.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't know if you're serious.
pearl davis
What?
Good.
tim pool
But that's funny.
He would never do that.
pearl davis
Yeah, I'm not.
tim pool
I don't know.
This world is built upon the corpses of men who threw themselves on grenades for other people.
phil labonte
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I think that's something that men don't get enough credit for.
They're called to sacrifice.
tim pool
Have you seen... Forced to, actually.
What's that movie with Gerard Butler?
Where his family gets killed?
phil labonte
Punisher?
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no.
He's, he's, uh, he's like at his house and then the guys break in.
Uh, Law-Abiding Citizen.
phil labonte
Oh, yes, okay.
tim pool
They ruined the ending!
They ruined the ending.
But, like, there's a reason why movies and stories like that resonate with guys.
There's a reason why guys like watching Spider-Man try to save Mary Jane.
You know, it's funny because- He picked the wrong woman.
unidentified
Who was he supposed to pick?
pearl davis
He picked- He should have picked that chick next door.
The one baking him cookies.
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
The baking him cookies.
pearl davis
She didn't want him!
She didn't like him.
tim pool
The funny thing about that bear-man-and-out story, whatever you call it question, if you're lost in the woods, would you rather be with a man or a bear?
It's like, the average guy is fantasizing about saving the woman.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
So it's like, oh, that man could be dangerous.
No, the average guy is going to be like, stay back.
I'll save you from the bear.
In fact, if a bear showed up violent, angry, and fuming at the mouth, the guy would probably like run and like wave a stick so the woman can get away.
pearl davis
I think that's going away, to be honest.
tim pool
I agree.
pearl davis
Yeah, I don't really think you see that anymore as much.
Because young men, I mean, you're seeing these clips go viral where a woman's in trouble and they're like, oh no, I'm not doing that.
tim pool
I agree.
pearl davis
It's usually worth the squeeze.
tim pool
Well, so the story of the woman who got raped on the train in, I think it was Philly?
phil labonte
On the train?
tim pool
On the train, a guy raped her and everyone just stood back and said,
I'm not getting involved.
They don't want to get Daniel Penneyed.
phil labonte
No, I mean, that makes sense.
pearl davis
If it was my brother, I'd say, I mean, you don't know the woman.
Like, why does she deserve your protection?
tim pool
And that's, it's sad because the real issue is society would punish you for trying to save the
phil labonte
Yeah.
We are making society worse by passing legislation that actually has bad results and makes society worse and then makes the people in society worse people.
pearl davis
She really got full-blown raped on a train.
unidentified
Yeah.
No way.
tim pool
And they filmed it.
pearl davis
What?
tim pool
Yeah, let me pull the story up.
unidentified
No way.
tim pool
This is a big story a while ago.
pearl davis
I did not catch that one.
Like, were there a lot of people on the train?
tim pool
Yes.
pearl davis
No way.
hannah claire brimelow
It's like during commuting hours, right?
pearl davis
Here you go.
phil labonte
When you punish people for doing the right thing, it's going to get more of people not doing the right thing.
tim pool
This is from 2021.
Police say riders didn't help women raped on train.
Does the bystander effect explain why?
Philly police said riders did not call 911 and instead held their phones up in direction of the assault.
Like, apparently the dude had her on the floor of the train, and they were just like, I am not getting involved.
pearl davis
I wouldn't.
That's crazy.
I'm not trying to get stabbed over that.
unidentified
A woman was raped on a train by a stranger.
pearl davis
I wouldn't film it.
I'd call 9-1-1.
But I'd imagine, because I'm thinking the train in London, you don't have service.
tim pool
Look, we see what happens with Daniel Perry and Daniel Penny.
Different stories, but Daniel Penny is trying to save people on a train.
A woman said that her life was, the guy was threatening her life.
He's fighting for his freedom.
pearl davis
I was gonna say real quick too, sorry.
tim pool
When you mentioned it's going away, I think another big component as to why the The idea that a man would sacrifice himself for the woman is going away is young guys are growing up watching TikTok videos of women put on these skin-tight booty shorts that are so tight it goes into their butt cracks and then they act like they're being victims and these guys are being like, I am not jumping on a grenade for that.
I'm not saying it's all women.
I'm saying this is what young men are being influenced by.
phil labonte
It doesn't take a lot of women.
All it takes is enough to fill up a couple videos on TikTok and Instagram.
tim pool
And while I agree that in the macro it's going away, there are still people like Harrison Butker who I guarantee if a man broke into his house with a weapon, he would stand in front of his wife and children and say, honey, run, take the kids.
pearl davis
No, I think men will do it for women they know, but strangers?
And honestly, if it's a stranger, I don't think you're entitled to protection from men you don't know.
tim pool
Man, it used to be so much better, didn't it?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
I think there's a level of, like, We would love to live in a society where people looked out for one another and wanted to protect each other, but I think we have a culture that's morally bankrupt and so you just can never be sure of who is going to be that fault.
pearl davis
This is all restorative justice.
I covered one guy who he I can't remember what the situation was, but I know he saved this girl from a guy that was attacking her.
Anyways, he ends up getting killed and they praised him as a hero and, you know, yes, but that was her boyfriend and she went back to him.
So it's like, you know, I know, I know.
And that's not uncommon.
unidentified
Holly gave up his life and she went back to him.
pearl davis
I know.
I know.
So it's like, you know, guys see that.
They're like, why would I?
Why would I get in the way?
tim pool
I think social media has, you know, what's fascinating is media used to be very controlled.
And it was, young guys and young women are influenced only by what the TV and the magazine and the radios would allow to be published.
But now with the internet, it's just whatever gets the clicks.
So it could be random and chaotic.
And of course, what's getting the clicks?
When YouTube first started, all of the big thumbnails, all the videos that were big, It was semi-nude women and the thumbnails.
No matter what the video was.
You could be a guy doing a cell phone review, and they'd be like, you gotta put bikini women somehow in the thumbnail.
Then YouTube cracked down and said, you can't have unrelated thumbnails on your videos, otherwise we'll, this fly is so annoying, it's flying.
They'll be like, if you use an unrelated thumbnail, we'll ban your video.
We'll give you a strike.
So then people started finding ways to incorporate weird stuff into, today's cell phone video and bikini review, And so YouTube's tried really hard to like shift that
behavior.
But so long as the internet is built upon, you can upload what
you want when you feel like it.
And that's the general idea.
Then you're going to get weird grifter manipulative garbage and
young people are going to be influenced by it.
And when TikTok is promoting these women in the algorithm that
they buy pants that are intentionally too small and they put
them on to the point where it's probably causing circulation
problems and the pants go into their butt cracks.
It's not shorts.
You're not wearing real clothes.
But that's what's getting all the massive views.
pearl davis
Well, I think social media becomes real life fast.
And even in the last 10 years, I've noticed a significant difference in my hometown in London, wherever I'm at.
How naked women are in public.
I mean, when I was in Vegas, I couldn't even believe it.
There's women with, like, stickers on their boobs.
They just walk around.
tim pool
Can I just point this out?
This is the Wikipedia page for Harrison Butker.
It says anti-Semitic comments.
In his 2024 commencement address at Benedictine College, he cited his belief that many first century Jews were responsible for the death of Jesus by criticizing a bill condemning anti-Semitism.
But it literally says in the Bible, Historically, claims that Jews were ultimately responsible for the death of Jesus have been widely, have been wielded as an anti-semitic trope against Jewish populations.
The Bible says it.
They're like, Pope Benedict affirmed this.
There's no basis in scripture for blaming Jews.
This is the weirdest thing ever.
I'm not a Christian.
Here you go to the people who are like, Tim's gonna say it.
Let me, uh, let me pull up a Bible passage.
I had like five of them.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, they came for me, too.
pearl davis
The ADL, yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
They're a really reputable organization.
pearl davis
Yeah, I was the most I've ever been Googled.
hannah claire brimelow
They're awful.
tim pool
Here, just look.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
Matthew 27, 24, and 25.
When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing but that rather a tumult was made, he took water and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person.
See ye to it.
Then answered all the people and said, His blood be on us and on our children.
I'm not saying it's true.
I don't know.
If you believe the Bible, you do.
phil labonte
It was literally saying, His blood be on us and our children.
Specifically saying that.
tim pool
And that's what the Bible teaches.
phil labonte
Yeah, like, I'm not anti-semitic.
I'm not, like, again, the second time today that I'm giving the agnostic caveat, but, like, those are the words there, homeboy.
Like, I don't have a dog in the fight because I'm not religious, but, like, that's what it says.
So the idea that you're not allowed to articulate what it says in the Bible is ridiculous.
tim pool
Thus proving his point.
When Harrison said they passed this bill saying you can't say this thing and they're calling him an anti-Semite for quite literally saying that the Bible says this.
pearl davis
I mean, I had a song out that said a very similar thing.
unidentified
What were we talking about before that?
hannah claire brimelow
We're talking about men in society and, you know, what becomes of men in modern society when the things that they're naturally, instinctively, you know, maybe programmed to do, our culture is always attacking them for them.
Like it's, it's, I think it's very difficult for, um, Young men to grow up in the world that is like, but you're a problem, you know?
Like, how are you supposed to respond to that?
phil labonte
Young men are treated as if they're broken girls when they're young, you know, until they're in their, you know, 20s and they're sufficiently subdued.
But yeah, like, I mean, young men have got a lot of problems that they're dealing with now.
You know, the suicide rate among young men.
They're not graduating.
They're not going to college.
They're not graduating college.
There's all kinds of stuff that you can hear about.
And just saying pro-family things, masculine pro-family things, gets you about as dumped on by the left as you possibly can.
It's terrible for the country.
tim pool
The conservative shift among younger and younger men, it's going to be wild.
phil labonte
Hopefully.
Hopefully.
tim pool
What does it turn into, though, you think?
pearl davis
I think young men are going to stop voting.
I think they're just going to drop out.
hannah claire brimelow
You think they'll become apathetic because it seems insurmountable?
pearl davis
I think they're not going to see the point because neither party represents their issues.
tim pool
I agree in the short term, I disagree in the long term.
I think what you're saying likely will be true for maybe like the next couple generations.
I do feel like after a long enough time though, the idle hands being the devil's playground, if you look historically, bored young men detached from society, tear societies down.
pearl davis
So what's your time frame on that?
When is shit gonna hit the fan?
hannah claire brimelow
Pearl wants to know when she should mark her calendar.
pearl davis
Yeah, I need to know when I need to, like, get some guns and buy some land.
Yesterday?
tim pool
Yeah, that was a long time ago.
phil labonte
Yeah, you should, yesterday.
tim pool
November, maybe?
hannah claire brimelow
She's in English, can't.
unidentified
Yeah, when do you get back to the US?
pearl davis
I, like, August, September.
phil labonte
Oh, you need a list and you need to go ahead and start buying things on a credit card while you're over there and have stuff ready to pick up when you get home.
tim pool
Find your FFL in the area where you live in the U.S.
and let them know, like, hey, if I had stuff shipped in or could you hold it for me until I'm back?
They probably would say yeah.
pearl davis
What's FFL?
Is that like a gun place?
tim pool
Yeah, gun store.
pearl davis
Oh, my parents have guns.
It's all right.
tim pool
The, uh, what is the saying, if you can count how many guns you have, you don't have enough?
phil labonte
Mmm, I mean, yeah.
I'm, I'm personally partial to the idea of get, you know, get a handgun that you like, get a rifle that you like, probably get a shotgun that you like.
tim pool
And a hundred thousand rounds.
phil labonte
And learn how to use them, yeah, get a lot of ammo and learn how to use them, use, go, Practice a lot.
Go to classes.
Get insurance.
Get insurance.
And another thing, people are going to be like, oh, insurance is super expensive.
It's super cheap.
It is super cheap.
It's like $10 a month or something like that.
$5 a month.
Because nobody gets in gunfights.
Like, nobody gets in gunfights.
So it's super cheap.
You can get insurance.
hannah claire brimelow
Not until we make the duel great again.
phil labonte
You know?
I mean, come on.
tim pool
You walk around West Virginia, everybody's armed.
Like not literally everybody, but most people are armed.
And nothing's happening.
The crime rate, the chance of being a victim of violent crime is like slightly above half the national rate.
So it's almost half.
It's low.
And that's in this beautiful state where everyone's got guns.
phil labonte
I mean... You look at Illinois.
tim pool
Guns are heavily restricted and regulated there, and somehow they have tremendous problems with guns!
And they blame the guns!
phil labonte
There's dudes running around with machine gun glocks that are totally illegal.
tim pool
Oh dude, that's so... It's true though, it's nuts.
phil labonte
So unfair.
tim pool
But yeah, back to the young men stuff.
I think the rise of Andrew Tate, Jordan Peterson, is like...
The door hath opened.
Pay attention to what's happening.
And first we got Jordan Peterson.
And what happens with Jordan?
He does not strike me as a man who lifts heavy things, despite the fact that he tells people to find the heaviest thing you can find and then lift it.
But many young guys like his content and wanted to listen to him because he's like a father figure.
But guess what?
They called him a Nazi.
They called him alt-right.
They mocked him.
They belittled him.
And now you get Andrew Tate.
And I would say, if I look at Andrew Tate's past and things he's described, those are horrible things.
If I look at the stuff he's doing now, I would say a good amount of it is actually pretty good.
The message that he has, the stuff that I see.
The one thing that I want to shout him out for is when he said, rocket ships don't stop halfway on the way to the moon.
They keep going.
They don't stop.
You can't stop.
You can't think, I'm going to rest here and take a break.
That's not how the rocket makes it to the moon.
That's a good message.
He's got those gems.
He had a story about fighting back against bullies and learning how to assert yourself and stuff like that.
But what happens after they lock him and his brother up?
He posted, Andrew Tate is a fighter, he's fit, and young guys are watching him.
If you don't like that, then you should not have attacked Jordan Peterson.
phil labonte
That's a great point.
tim pool
But think about what happens now.
Do you think that if you then take Andrew Tate and Tristan and you put them in prison and cut them off, those young people are going to be like, guess I'll go back to Jordan?
No, they're going to be like, who's the next guy?
phil labonte
This is similar to what happened with Trump, right?
You had Jordan Peterson, who was very milquetoast, very Inoffensive in what he was saying, you know And they attacked him and called him all the most horrible names just like you had Mitt Romney who is the most inoffensive Milk-toast Republican that you could possibly find and what did they do to him?
They crucified him.
They called him a Nazi They called him all the names.
And so what do you get when you do that when when you take the most the most Least offensive people you can find and they're still called all the worst names in the world?
Well, then you go ahead and say, well, screw it.
We'll go ahead and we'll get Andrew Tate and we'll get Donald Trump.
tim pool
Who cares?
Who comes after Andrew Tate for young men when they're trying to put him in prison?
If you go Jordan Peterson, Andrew Tate, solve for X, right?
What's the next person going to be like?
phil labonte
I mean, I don't know.
That it would be any different.
Because, I mean, look, whatever your opinions on Tate, there's a high likelihood that he's done some things that are illegal, considering all the stuff that the evidence they have against him.
Now, again, I'm not accusing him of anything.
tim pool
All I can say is stuff I've seen against him so far seems to be totally bunk.
phil labonte
I've heard some stuff about the lover boy law that they have over there.
The law may be bad, but according to the law, he might have actually broken that law.
pearl davis
It's like the way they get guys a lot is they change the definition of things.
I don't know that law in particular, but I'll give a different example.
So like rape.
It used to be forced sex.
That's easy.
You pull a chick off the side of the road, force her.
But then they switched it to sex without consent, and that expands the definition and allows them to throw more men in jail.
So if I had to guess, if they do get him, it'll be something like that.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
pearl davis
Or it's like, you know, technically.
tim pool
So the next guy is going to be twice as tall, ten times as ripped.
pearl davis
And he's going to be real, like... You know who it kind of is, actually?
I was thinking, like, Sean Strickland's kind of getting clout now.
People are starting to... He could be.
tim pool
Yeah, but I think that's a positive move.
My concern is that if you go from Jordan Peterson, who is a good role model in a lot of ways, and you take him away from kids... He's wholesome.
And you give him Andrew Tate, and Andrew Tate's got this dark backstory.
Is there a darker?
I mean, if Strickland were to take that space, I'm not so sure because Tate is a podcaster.
He's like a commentator.
He talks a lot.
I don't know.
Strickland does talk a little bit.
Strickland's a much better role model, in my opinion.
He's hilarious.
He's great.
hannah claire brimelow
If the through line is sort of this presentation of philosophy, like, obviously, Jordan Peterson's an academic.
So he talks about studies.
He talks in a way that is like thematic.
And I think I'm not, I don't follow a lot of Andrew Tate stuff.
But like, again, He presents the way he lives his life and his advice to men as if it is a philosophy from which to view the world.
So maybe the next person has to, again, have this level of nuance.
phil labonte
Tate's a showman.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't know a ton about him.
phil labonte
He is a showman, definitely a showman.
hannah claire brimelow
He's a showman, but I also think the stuff that I would see is similar to Jordan Peterson's book.
book called 12 Rules for Life. It is about framing the way you view the world and giving people this
lens from which to approach the challenges they face, and I think that's sort of what people are
pearl davis
looking for. What do you guys not- you don't like the cam work? Is that what you guys are talking
about? Yeah, it's mostly the- I just figured it was legal, they wanted to do it anyway. Yeah,
tim pool
but that's not- it's the pretending to be a woman to trick guys into giving them money.
pearl davis
Oh, okay, yeah, fair enough.
tim pool
Like, if we're going to argue that OnlyFans is illegal and people ought to do it, then I'm going to be like, I don't know if that's a good influence for kids.
He's not telling kids to do that.
Oh, I'm not saying it's good, but... But if we're saying, you know, that he was pretending to be a woman and sexting guys for cash, it's like, you know, he's kind of an OnlyFans hooker.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, look, if girls doing it, make them an OnlyFans hooker.
tim pool
But it's not pictures of him, you know what I mean?
He's just sending the words.
phil labonte
No, he's just saying, hey, I want to S your D.
tim pool
That's crazy, that's what it is.
And it's funny because, like, guys don't care.
We mentioned this like the other day, we mentioned this in the morning.
There was some survey where they were like, you know, it's been revealed that many of the people having conversations on OnlyFans are actually not the woman, but men who work for the woman.
And there was like, don't care.
Literally don't care, we'll keep sending her money.
There's AI women on Instagram that are clearly fake, and there are dudes commenting being like, I love you.
phil labonte
That's so creepy.
pearl davis
You know what's crazy?
Men can do everything better, even sex work, than women.
tim pool
Well, I was saying this, OnlyFans is over.
pearl davis
You think?
tim pool
Yeah, because of AI girlfriends.
Yeah.
Men will start running these AI models and generating this content, and other guys are going to buy it, and women will be removed from the sex work industry.
pearl davis
This is so embarrassing, ladies.
We can't do anything.
It's like the one thing we have an advantage on.
Guys still find a way to do it better.
It's like, no, I'm serious!
You know what's crazy?
Now they have, um, I'm not going to say it, but the word that got me banned on YouTube, transform, can I say transformers?
phil labonte
Nope.
pearl davis
Oh, sorry.
unidentified
Okay.
pearl davis
Well those there, um, you find straight guys hooking up with them.
So it's like, why?
tim pool
No, they're not.
The word homosexual literally means same sex.
pearl davis
It doesn't matter what you look like.
Well, I guess my point is guys that are bi, I would say, because they hook up with both, are picking them.
tim pool
I mean, like, the idea that a bisexual man has sex with men and women is not surprising.
I don't see the issue.
unidentified
My point is, they're choosing the trans women over women.
pearl davis
Yeah, because they're gay.
phil labonte
No, because the trans women act more like women than regular women.
pearl davis
I'll see them on social media and they'll be like really well-dressed, long hair, and I'm like, dang, they women better than most women.
phil labonte
That's the thing.
tim pool
There was a viral post from a trans woman that said trans women are desperately trying to be trad wives while women are trying not to be.
Yeah.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, look, feminism really does tell women that the pinnacle of womanhood is being the CEO or being the president.
The pinnacle of womanhood for a feminist is get rid of a man, Be a CEO and have a baby that you raise by yourself.
And there was a great point that I heard you making on one of the things.
There's only 500 Fortune 500 companies.
The idea that there has to be parity of women as CEOs of Fortune 500 companies is ridiculous.
tim pool
How many NBA players are there?
I don't even know.
Let me pull that number up, but continue your point.
phil labonte
But yeah, so considering the fact that the bell curves of both men and women when it comes to all kinds of things, but when it comes to intelligence and the, what's it called?
The word is escaping me, the ambition to go out and do that kind of thing.
Like there's only a certain amount of people that are going to have those combined factors that are going to motivate them.
And it's probably not going to be 50% or 250 women that are going to be getting the So, the 2022-23 season, there were 560 players in the NBA.
tim pool
That's about the average.
It's 550, 543, 525.
Let's see, 2021 had a record number with 580 players.
How many women are in the NBA?
Zero.
You know, they're not barred from playing in the NBA.
The NBA has no rule keeping women out.
They just don't make the cut.
phil labonte
Let's look up... I think that's the same thing for football as well.
I don't think they're actually... The NFL doesn't have a specific There are 1,696 NFL players.
tim pool
How many women are in the NFL?
There is no rule banning women.
And in fact, women have actually tried out to be kickers before and haven't made the cut.
So there's no difference between these And Fortune 500 companies.
But they are passing laws requiring female board members, CEOs, and things like that.
I firmly believe in our lifetime we will see co-ed professional sports.
The NBA will be forced under regulation.
I would love to see the lawsuit filed by the HRC today saying this.
First, we're going to get the Sheetz ruling.
Let's pause.
You first have the Arizona ruling, where Arizona said, we want to ask our voters if they're citizens.
And the Fed said, no, you can't do that.
It violates federal voting law.
It's racist, whatever.
Sheetz says we don't want to hire people who have criminal backgrounds.
The federal government said that's racist.
If they win, the precedent is unintentional actions that result in racial disparity are violations of the Civil Rights Act.
Ladies and gentlemen, we got them.
If they win that case, and you could sue now, but the DOJ is not doing it.
If the DOJ wins against Sheetz, then you can sue the NFL and say, because of the rules they've created, they disproportionately discriminate against women.
And you're going to get a lawyer who's going to say, What rules were put in place in the NFL where not a single woman has been hired to play on any one of these teams?
They're going to argue, we have a law that says you cannot discriminate.
The rules of these sports are created arbitrarily.
They were made up by us and they were made up at a time when women did not have rights.
I say the rules should be rewritten so that the teams must be 50-50 male and female.
How will they win in court, based on everything we're seeing already?
I believe in our lifetimes that will happen.
pearl davis
Women always sue.
Gosh, they sue over everything.
phil labonte
Everyone sues.
pearl davis
We're an extremely litigious society.
Why has this lawsuit not happened?
I would say it's always women.
Overwhelmingly.
tim pool
Why has this lawsuit not happened?
pearl davis
I don't know.
tim pool
Why have women not sued the major league sports for discrimination against women?
phil labonte
Because they'd have had to have thought of it.
pearl davis
I'm surprised women even still have a league with all they complain about pay.
If it was me, I would just cut the whole – I love sports, but I'm like, I would just cut the whole league because all you guys do is whine.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, most female professional leagues are subsidized by the male counterpart, right?
pearl davis
They always are.
The only time they make money is if they make money through drama, like think dance moms or sex.
Like, you know, they start OnlyFans.
hannah claire brimelow
But I mean, there's no reason to cut them.
So like, it doesn't matter if they make money or they're terrible.
Like, it's there because it's to basically emotionally Title IX whoever owns it.
pearl davis
Yeah, I know.
tim pool
JetGPT says men generally file more lawsuits than women.
pearl davis
I don't believe it.
Sorry.
unidentified
I'll ask what's your source.
hannah claire brimelow
I think the big issue to come to what Phil was saying before is, you know, most of the early feminists were also socialists and a lot of the point of feminism is to just keep women in the workforce.
And so, you know, of course it has nothing to do with actually what might benefit women, what they might be advantaged to, what might, you know, make them healthier or happier.
It's actually about the workforce.
phil labonte
Excuse me, all of the issues that you consider women's issues are always left-leaning women's issues, and they're never anything that a right-leaning woman would want.
So it's clearly not about women or feminism.
And another thing, feminists, if you haven't noticed, all of the trans-exclusive feminists, they got kicked right to the curb.
It's about...
Look, the issue is never the issue.
The issue is always the revolution.
It is about leftism.
It is not about feminism.
You are being used because of an ideology that does not care about you.
pearl davis
It will cast you aside as soon as you are no longer... I think that leftism comes from women, too, but I'll go into that.
tim pool
You're actually going to retract your previous point and agree with me.
pearl davis
Okay, go ahead.
tim pool
Men file lawsuits because they tend to work in environments that result in higher amounts of injuries.
pearl davis
Oh, you might be right.
I'll retract.
I'll retract.
Stupid lawsuits.
tim pool
I asked GPT what were its sources.
pearl davis
Yeah, that makes sense.
tim pool
It said workplace injury in high-risk professions resulted in more lawsuits.
pearl davis
That would actually make sense.
But when I think lawsuits, I think… But divorce, it does say women do divorce more.
Well, not divorce more, but what I was thinking is women tend to sue for sexual harassment, that sort of thing, or emotional abuse, even at work.
phil labonte
Those don't go to court.
That's a settlement.
They're just like, pay that woman, pay that woman.
pearl davis
I know there was a woman who did it to me.
She raised, I don't know, $13,000.
She didn't even end up making it to court, you're correct, but she ended up raising $13,000 to sue me for emotional abuse.
I donked on her so hard on my show.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm curious.
pearl davis
Oh, she said, well, she claimed... I could pull it.
Oh, wait, I deleted too many videos.
hannah claire brimelow
I was trying to get re-monetized, but... And you didn't actually, like, you know of her, but you don't have a personal relationship with her?
pearl davis
So what happened was, it was early in the days.
It was, like, very early in my show.
And there was a guy that brought her on the show, and he knew her.
He was, like, an actor in London.
And he would sometimes bring, like, more liberal women.
And so he texted her the name of the show and the topic, and then after, like, she went really viral.
And it was small back then, so it was like 15,000, 20,000 subs, so I don't think she expected it to go as viral as it did.
hannah claire brimelow
Interesting.
pearl davis
And then it went really viral, and then she claimed that she didn't know.
And so that was what I responded with, was just, she didn't think I had the texts from, like, us telling her what show she was coming on.
Oh.
I don't know.
She claimed some sort of abuse type of thing.
hannah claire brimelow
Because of what?
What did you say to her?
Sorry.
pearl davis
Oh, it was we were arguing about the pay gap.
Well, she won.
It was it was does body count matter?
And she said her body count.
I gave her an out.
I said, you don't have to.
It's all right.
You don't have to.
And then she was like, no, I want to sex positive.
I was like, all right, go ahead.
And it's not my fault she slept with a lot of guys.
I didn't make you do that.
So then that went viral.
And then on top of that, she was just saying she didn't need men.
She was just your typical feminist.
She's an actress.
And then she raised money to sue me.
hannah claire brimelow
But they never actually did.
pearl davis
They sent me a letter.
It was pretty expensive to send a letter back.
She wanted me to pay for her She wanted me to pay for something I refused to pay for it was like a lawyer like she wanted to like her legal fees Yeah, and I wouldn't do it and then I never heard from her again, so I don't know maybe I'll go to court someday I don't know I noticed that like same thing with like Isn't not the blaze is getting sued because of that like we are here type stuff.
You know they noticed that what is that?
Like Sydney Watson suing The Blaze.
tim pool
Oh, is it still going on?
pearl davis
I don't know, but I just, it's like the pattern, I look for patterns of behavior.
tim pool
There's like huge drama online over that of like split factions of some people saying like she's telling the truth and other people saying that she's lying.
pearl davis
You're probably lying.
Sorry.
But it's just, I look for patterns and trends and it's always the same thing.
Women go into an industry, they tend to.
phil labonte
Cindy doesn't strike me as a dishonest person, so just saying that because I know her a little bit and I don't think she's a BS kind of person.
pearl davis
Well, I mean, but that's part of the, there's a playbook on how to do this.
You can read it online.
tim pool
Did she accuse Elijah?
phil labonte
I think the issue was with Elijah, yeah.
tim pool
I guess the question then is, is Elijah a BS kind of person?
phil labonte
I don't know Elijah all that well, so I wouldn't be able to say.
pearl davis
But I would say, well, a lot of times, you know, my question is, and I don't know, I
don't even really know what happened.
I just know that there is a lawsuit and I just noticed the trend and what they tend
to do with women at work is they tend to like, okay, something happens with a guy at work,
There's flirting, touching, whatever.
But they don't talk about the flirting that they did, too.
And so they'll oftentimes label the stuff he did as so terrible, but why did – you know, I go on shows all the time, nothing like that's happened to me.
So it's like, why did the guy feel comfortable?
And a lot of times they leave it out, so it's like lying by omission, a lot.
hannah claire brimelow
Like presenting their side in a vacuum?
pearl davis
Yeah!
Even like, I don't know if you listened to the thing I did with Lauren earlier today, but, you know, the Crowder clip, you know, everyone thought he was an abuser because of that clip.
But like, if you saw the, if you heard the full thing after he went into the house, like, he went into the house and he screamed, or he said, God, what was it?
I'd have to look over my notes from it, but a lot of times it's like a clip that they'll talk about, but they don't put everything in context.
I don't know if I'm making sense.
No, it makes sense.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, it's similar to what we were saying about the NFL kicker, right?
The fact that he's actually so emotional about his marriage, that he's so happy about it, is left out.
pearl davis
Instead, they act like he just treats his wife like Okay, I'll give you an example of a common lie I hear, and I just noticed these trends because I've done so many shows.
Like, women would always say they were abused, right, on my show.
And one time someone in the comments section said, ask her if she filed a police report.
Now, I remind you, I interviewed a thousand women.
And probably every other show, maybe someone would say my ex-boyfriend was abusive.
But then I started to realize I knew what questions to ask.
So I would say, did you file a police report?
Overwhelmingly, no.
And that's kind of a sign that they're lying.
Second thing is you have to ask them to tell you the story in detail, like in detail what happened.
Example of a lie I would hear.
One girl said that he pushed me like he He pushed me down the stairs.
That sounds awful and terrible.
But when I asked her a couple questions, I found out that she was actually trespassing in his house.
She refused to leave and he was pushing her out of the house.
Maybe she fell down the stairs, but, you know, is that really what she, you know, maybe it's just the point of trespassing.
hannah claire brimelow
It doesn't sound like they're actively together.
pearl davis
Yeah, she was trying to pick a fight with him in front of his kid, and he wanted her out.
She wouldn't leave.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you think the definition of abuse has become expansive?
pearl davis
Yeah, that's the problem.
And they did it in family court, partially, but it used to just be abuse, one person hitting the other, but they expanded it.
So again, the first thing they want to do in order to put more men in jail, feminists do this, or take their kids, whatever, resources, whatever, change the definition of things.
So they added an emotional abuse.
Financial abuse.
And then the other thing they do is they make it on a balance of probabilities rather than beyond a reasonable doubt.
And what that means is there's more evidence that it's more likely he did it than not.
So if it's 51 percent, then take the kids, etc.
tim pool
They call that in the U.S.
preponderance of evidence.
pearl davis
Oh, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
So at the universities, they said our standard is not beyond a reasonable doubt.
It's a preponderance of evidence, meaning if there is any evidence to suggest, we act as though it happened.
Wild.
pearl davis
Authoritarian ridiculous.
But I've noticed the same trends I saw in family court, I would see it at work, too.
Because usually men will build an industry, they'll make it awesome and amazing, and then women tend to come in and ruin it.
I saw this in education.
Education was mostly teachers.
Women came in, ruined it.
hannah claire brimelow
But with the expansion of abuse, why did this happen?
Why did no one stop the expansion?
Because, like, obviously male judges, male lawyers, I know there are female ones, too, but, like, why did this... Women will always get blue-pilled or, like, simp men to enforce.
pearl davis
That's the only leverage that they have, is getting men that want to sleep with them to do things for them.
hannah claire brimelow
So it was basically, you think it's, like, women presented a sob story and, like, this is why they expand the definition of abuse?
pearl davis
Well, that's why I go back to voting, because that gave women more political and social power.
That's why I always say women shouldn't vote, because that is what changed everything, because now all the laws have to cater to women, not men.
tim pool
The interesting thing about voting, what people need to understand is voting favors those who have lighter schedules.
You will see a higher voter turnout among people who are not working than who are.
And so, especially with women's suffrage, you instantly had a massive voting bloc that was more likely to be able to turn out to vote than men.
Women were at the time, because men are working, and not every man could take time off of their jobs to go and vote.
Today, it's more so the unemployed, and so the incentive of government then becomes to cater towards those who are not working, which is a perverse incentive.
So the people who are working, who are having their rights and their values and their taxes stripped away, the system will crumble because it's favoring those who are not supporting the system.
unidentified
Yeah.
pearl davis
Which is women.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, it's crazy because I feel like so many people are unhappy with voting.
Oh, women are working now, though.
pearl davis
Well, yeah, but they have useless jobs.
They go through it and... Oh, come on.
tim pool
That's a bit hyperbolic.
pearl davis
No, I'm serious.
Nursing is probably the most important job.
But look at the industries that women dominate.
They always suck and they're always the ones that people complain about.
And I would argue education, health care, both of those are constantly complained about.
tim pool
Yeah, but that's a government thing.
pearl davis
Yeah, but the government is taken over by feminists slash women.
unidentified
Progressive, liberal, with feminism as a component.
pearl davis
Well, no, I just think it all goes back to matriarchy.
tim pool
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And what do we got here?
Tim Jake says, you need to check out the Repealing Illegal Freedom and Liberty Exercises Rifle Act.
Interesting.
Introduced by Senate Republicans this week, it would effectively gut NFA by repealing the transfer taxes.
unidentified
Ooh.
tim pool
Me gusta.
Let's go.
Ian Slater says, When will you have Better Bachelor or Coach Greg Adams on to talk about men's issues?
They have great insight and I believe could shed a bigger light.
Anytime.
We could have them.
Culture War is the best place for that.
Let's grab some more.
Thomas Conservative says, A better question, Tim.
How are we going to prevent this from happening again?
We have all these one-time abuses and people die and we go on with our lives.
I think we're going to need first to cross our fingers.
Trump needs to win.
Then cross your fingers again a second time.
Can you get your finger over your finger twice?
Because we're hoping Trump actually starts prosecuting and arresting criminals and people who abuse power.
That's the best for now.
We'll see.
We'll cross those other bridges and whatever bridge may come if we get there.
Alright, Steve Kralik says, Pearl, aside from the draft, what reasons led you to say that women shouldn't vote?
The shape of the distributions for intelligence of men and women are different, but not by a lot.
If women are raised well, why not vote?
pearl davis
Well, I've always had a caveat that there would be specific women that could vote, but the majority of women would not.
So if you did military members, net taxpayers, I don't think if you're on child support or alimony, you should be able to vote.
tim pool
Sorry, go ahead.
pearl davis
Yeah, but if you did that, like 99.9, then women wouldn't vote anyway.
tim pool
I was going to say, when we've talked about and debated the idea of repealing 19th before, it didn't matter as soon as we actually got to the root of people with no incentives and no ties to the community are voting.
As soon as we said, what if you have to serve your community, your country, or some kind of caveat, instantly it's like, oh, well then it wouldn't matter if you were a man or a woman.
So the real issue, I think, is...
People can just vote randomly, which makes no sense.
If you don't live here, why are you voting on my laws?
I don't understand.
Like, me and my neighbors are gonna vote on how we want our water to flow.
Some weirdo lefty can come from D.C., rent an apartment, and then vote, and then leave?
That makes no sense.
So time constraints, the things you mentioned, those all seem to be...
pearl davis
There's a hundred different ways we can slice it, but the female vote, I just don't think it's fair that men pay most of the taxes, run most of the infrastructure, do most of the work, and yet women have the most say.
That doesn't seem fair to me.
tim pool
I think net taxpayer is a good idea.
I actually like the, still my favorite is the Selective Service one.
The idea is Selective Service becomes optional for men and for women, but you can't vote unless you sign up for it.
That does not mean you'll be drafted because we haven't had a draft in 50 years.
It just means you are pledging to the country to serve it in time of need if the need arises.
A lot of people have told me, no, because then you're going to have corrupt people draft people and send them to wars for profit.
No, because the only people who can vote are the people who have pledged to fight for the country, which means war is extremely unlikely.
So, uh, The only people voting are those who have signed up for the draft.
And then a politician comes along and says, I think we should fund Ukraine.
And they'll go, vote against you because I am not going to fight that.
And then he loses.
unidentified
That's it.
tim pool
There you go.
I like that idea.
pearl davis
Yeah.
I just think it's like every election season, there's some girl that's like 12 that can't get an abortion and women run to the polls.
So yeah.
tim pool
Is your first name Hannah?
pearl davis
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
tim pool
Because someone put Hannah Clare better than Hannah Pearl.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, that's a subjective opinion.
tim pool
Not to bring up that they're being mean.
hannah claire brimelow
Is there a beef between me and Pearl right now?
pearl davis
I mean, it's all right.
She's great.
I got no qualms.
tim pool
No, it's just because I didn't realize your name was Hannah.
pearl davis
Oh, yeah.
That's my first name.
tim pool
And then I had to read the super chat, which was divisive.
hannah claire brimelow
Did you always go by your middle name?
pearl davis
No, it actually started in college.
There was another Hannah on the team.
They just started calling me Pearl.
And then when I put Hannah Davis online, there was this supermodel that got married to Derek Jeter.
And I was like, I don't need to be next to her on Google.
So I'm going to go with Pearl.
tim pool
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Will do.
We will grab some more superchats.
John Avi says, does Pearl still sing?
She's got a good voice and is actually a good singer.
She would be happier if she focused on her music and her talents rather than hating women to feel better about herself.
It started so good!
pearl davis
That's alright, I don't mind them.
No, I do still sing, thank you, but what I was thinking is I could make songs.
hannah claire brimelow
I heard you rapping on the next All That Remains thing.
pearl davis
Yeah, why not do both?
Why not sing about this stuff?
Sorry, Bill.
hannah claire brimelow
Bill voted me out of the band.
I'm not allowed to make musical suggestions.
pearl davis
Oh, you got voted out?
hannah claire brimelow
I was never in the band.
I just was starting a rumor online.
phil labonte
We didn't have a female bass player for a little while.
hannah claire brimelow
It wasn't me.
I'm not musical at all.
tim pool
You can make a song called No More 19, and then, like, the lyrics on the surface seem like you're actually singing about how—and it's gotta be, like, upbeat pop.
It should sound like you're saying, I'm not a teenager anymore.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
But what you're actually saying is, repeal the 19th.
pearl davis
Yeah.
tim pool
And then, like, all these young girls are singing and dancing, like, they don't even know.
phil labonte
Very clever.
tim pool
And then you're like, I got them.
Or the first verses are really, like, light and seeming like you're not a teenager anymore.
And then the last verse is just, As literal as possible, just no more women voting.
pearl davis
We could do like a duet.
tim pool
No, not me.
pearl davis
You don't sing?
phil labonte
Yeah, he does.
tim pool
Yeah, no, I do.
I'm just saying I'm not going to write a song about repealing the 19th Amendment.
pearl davis
I'm just saying, it could be fire.
tim pool
You know what's funny is that whenever we have guys on the show, they're like, nah, we shouldn't repeal the 19th.
And women always say yes.
pearl davis
Yeah.
tim pool
Not every woman, though.
pearl davis
I do have a song coming out soon.
So the next couple of months, I am going to do music.
tim pool
What is it?
Can you say?
pearl davis
Yeah, so there's a song I have, it's called We Don't Party Like We Used To, and it's about life before phones.
So it's like, we don't party like we used to, take me back to 1992, and then it's just, you know.
tim pool
Are you gonna put dial-up internet sounds in it?
pearl davis
That'd be a good idea.
hannah claire brimelow
That would be really cool.
pearl davis
I wasn't even alive in 92, but I heard it was a good time.
tim pool
Yeah, it was good.
When did the wall come down?
Was that 93?
unidentified
No, 89.
tim pool
Why did I say 93?
unidentified
Yeah, 92.
tim pool
What did we have in 92?
94 was the year of all the best music in existence, right?
unidentified
Ooh, I don't know.
tim pool
Why did I say 93? Yeah, 92. What do we have in 92? 94 was the year of all the best music in existence, right?
phil labonte
Ooh, I don't know. 91 was pretty great.
tim pool
But wasn't 94 like, um...
phil labonte
The early, the first half of the 90s was really great.
tim pool
94 was like melancholy and, um, I think you had, like, Soundgarden.
There was a viral meme of, like, all of these albums came out in 94 and it's like, holy crap.
Like, all of the best 90s music grunge stuff.
Although, I, to be fair, I was kidding.
The greatest era in human history was the early 80s when Men at Work were on the top of the charts.
So, yeah.
pearl davis
Yeah, everyone coming out with Bryson Gray soon.
unidentified
Oh, cool.
pearl davis
Yeah, it's about Bible thumpers.
phil labonte
Dookie came out, the Blue Album from Weezer, Alice in Chains, Jar of Flies, Nine Inch Nails,
The Downward Spiral, and Live Throwing Copper.
tim pool
In 91?
phil labonte
In 1994.
tim pool
In 94.
No, there's more.
phil labonte
Those are just the ones that popped up right off the top.
hannah claire brimelow
Phil, if you weren't doing metal music, would you do a different genre of music, or is it
metal or nothing?
phil labonte
Most likely, I probably would be metal or nothing, because I didn't think that I was going to be a professional musician when I started playing music and playing metal.
That kind of wasn't an option of playing, like, heavy music and being a professional musician, really.
Not the way that it is now, because the internet changed everything, so... It's crazy! 94!
tim pool
Uh, Smashed by the Offspring.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
The- the highest selling, uh, independent album ever.
Still to this day, I believe.
Super Unknown by Soundgarden.
Wha- I mean, there's just- there's- there's a- there's a ton.
That's so crazy.
94 was wild.
Can we say that of any of the modern years?
Like, what's the- what's- what do we have now?
phil labonte
There haven't been anything- there- I don't think so.
hannah claire brimelow
There's a song called WAP.
I know people have a lot of strong feelings about it.
tim pool
Yeah.
Haha, Veruca Salt.
phil labonte
1992 was crazy, because it was like, Sap came out, which is Alice in Chains, The Black Crows, Dinosaur Jr., Nevermind was released, Stone Temple Pilots, Purple was released, Tragically Hip released, Bad Motorfinger came out, Radiohead came out with Pablo Honey, I'm pretty sure Metallica released the Black Album in 1992, or was that 1991?
tim pool
The text vet says, you called Jake Shields a bitch.
There's the beef to box about.
You called him out, back it up.
My friend, I am not so special as to think I would ever win in a fistfight with Jake Shields.
phil labonte
Professional fighter, dude.
tim pool
Professional fighter and one of the best.
Very good.
We disagree on like, we had a disagreement over a booking on a show where we beefed on Twitter, but the dude is still one of the best fighters.
Bro, I just started lifting, like, three months ago.
I'm not gonna win a fight with an MMA champ.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, not with that attitude.
phil labonte
I mean, you gotta really believe in yourself.
hannah claire brimelow
No, I'm not a part of this at all.
phil labonte
Oh, no, you're gonna throw Tim under the bus, though, right?
hannah claire brimelow
I'm just saying, if you believe in yourself, you know, you're more likely to achieve things.
unidentified
I just like the good TV I'm gonna watch.
tim pool
Spencer Jones says Preston Brooks, a pro-slavery Democrat from South Carolina, used a walking cane to attack Senator Charles Sumner, an abolitionist Republican from Massachusetts in Congress, and actually gave him a TBI.
And the Democrats in the South were like, ah, he's faking it.
And then the dude in the North who got beaten, Sumner, was struggling to speak.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you think they would be impressed by today's clashes between our female politicians over being bleach-blonde and having fake eyelashes?
Or do you think they'd be like, you guys need to really put your fists where your mouths are?
I think they would be unimpressed by the catfight in Congress, is all I'm saying.
I think they were more serious about their conflicts.
tim pool
Fighting in Congress is rare, you know?
TJ Santiago says, have you seen Nancy Pelosi getting wiped in that Oxford debate about populism?
If not, you have to.
It's amazing.
Did Nancy Pelosi actually debate someone?
phil labonte
I will be watching that.
The Oxford debate.
Nancy Pelosi.
tim pool
Is that true?
phil labonte
Trying to keep her teeth in her face.
Come on.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you think she's trying to stay relevant?
Like now that she's in Congress, but she's not speaker anymore.
She's like, I'm still a part of this.
She's so old.
phil labonte
I don't know.
I mean, I don't, I can't speak for Nancy Pelosi.
I don't know what goes on in her head, but I mean, like she's what, she's mid eighties or something like that?
hannah claire brimelow
At least.
tim pool
I think she's 80.
phil labonte
Yes.
I mean, she's, she's got everything that an 80 year old could need, could want.
Like she can just go ahead and chill out, you know?
hannah claire brimelow
Did you see that her husband's attacker got sentenced to three years in prison?
tim pool
It says to her face.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Really?
They actually, wow, I didn't know that she actually debated that.
Look at that, that's amazing.
Indigenous and Sober says, I'd pay to see Tim box Sam Seder.
I think I have 20 pounds on him, probably an inch in height, and I think he's twice my age.
pearl davis
Would you do it if they were similar, like, build, weight?
Would you ever do it?
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
pearl davis
Guys, find him the right person.
Let's go.
tim pool
Yeah, I think the issue is I don't really have any strong enough beef to do anything other than if it was a friendly thing for charity or something like that.
And it would have to be, I guess, fair.
pearl davis
Yeah.
tim pool
You know?
I might be willing to go slightly up in that, like, if the other guy was a little bigger or whatever, I would be okay accepting a disadvantage on my end, but not imposing it on someone else.
pearl davis
I was trying to get Nick Fuentes and Destiny to box.
I thought that would be hilarious.
hannah claire brimelow
I've been trying to get this boxing match happening for a while now.
pearl davis
I would love to see that.
tim pool
That would be hilarious.
Here's what happens.
After Andrew Tate goes to prison, Andrew and Tristan, they lock him up, then Nick Fuentes is going to start lifting, and he's going to get massive, and then he's going to be the new Andrew Tate.
hannah claire brimelow
If you predicted this correctly, it'll be hilarious.
tim pool
He should start lifting.
You know what I mean?
phil labonte
I mean, everyone should.
tim pool
Aside, I know, yeah.
Aside from everything else, like, just throw it in your routine.
I think, you know what I'm gonna do is, um, cause we have these separate routines where it's like, I'll skate and then we'll go.
I think I'm just gonna add the weights down, take a couple weights to the park and then just throw lifting in my skate session.
Just, there you go.
Cause what I was doing before was every time I have to, uh, like stop, take a break or get some water, I would do pushups.
And like, if I'm gonna pause, I'm gonna do 10 push-ups and I'll try and get 100 in the day if I'm only skating.
Now I'm like, I should probably just start with some weights, skate, end with some weights, get it all in one go.
Everyone should lift.
phil labonte
Absolutely.
Men and women.
tim pool
Eric Maxis!
pearl davis
I love lifting, you gotta know.
tim pool
Yeah, there you go.
unidentified
Guys!
hannah claire brimelow
I gotta maintain my spaghetti arms, Bill.
I can't lift things.
tim pool
Guys, football congress team.
All members must be on the team and the winner gets their bill passed.
That'll be fun.
Katrina Miles says, watch it, Tim.
Do not call my fave, Byron Donalds, lazy.
Also the guy from the Senate that wanted to fight the guy during the hearing.
Byron Donalds I would not call lazy.
He's based.
Byron Donalds is one of the best.
There's so few good members of Congress.
He is in the top of that list.
Good dude.
Big fan.
phil labonte
All right.
tim pool
Chaz Chartrand Morin says, you can't redistribute gains.
That's right.
The socialists We'll take your money from you, but they can't take your muscles.
Although, I wouldn't be surprised if they develop technology in a hundred years.
phil labonte
To be honest with you, you have to be able to eat to maintain muscles and commune and all that good of that.
tim pool
Oh, that's a good point.
They'll take your muscles from you.
They're going to try and get you to eat like some soy protein and then you're going to have bad gains.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
All right, we will move on and read more Super Chats.
Stitch says, I'm a 33-year-old pecan farmer in middle Georgia.
I started at 517 pounds, down to 450 pounds.
phil labonte
Good job.
tim pool
Hire me, I'll move to West Virginia and be the Jared of Timcast supplement line without the kid diddling.
Well, we don't have the supplement line just yet, but congratulations on dropping 67 pounds.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah, absolutely.
Good job, bro.
Um, it's fitcast IRL, everybody.
By November, everyone's supposed to be in shape.
That's, that's, that's, that's the pitch.
So, uh, you know, you got, you got six months.
hannah claire brimelow
Company mandate, you know.
phil labonte
That's right.
tim pool
More so like a, um, I don't know what the right word is.
A, I wouldn't say challenge is the right word.
It's kind of like a mission.
Because, you know, we were talking on the Culture War podcast about prepping.
And I was like, look, you can go to Walmart right now and you can buy supplies that are going to keep you alive for three months.
And then after you do, you're going to look down, you're going to realize you're 100 pounds overweight and you can't run.
You're having trouble breathing and you can't buy anything to help you with that.
The only thing that's going to help you with that is you exercise, you eat right, you get in shape.
I recommend the MyFitnessPal app.
Track your macros.
You can type in your height, your weight, your goals, and it will tell you what to do.
It says, listen to me, and the robot will take care of the rest.
So that's a good place to start.
But if something were to happen, earthquake, landslide, massive car accident, whatever, and the roads are shut down, the power goes out, who knows, zombie apocalypse, alien invasion, you can buy all the supplies in the world you want, but if you're not trained with your firearms, if you're not trained physically, then...
You're in trouble.
You're better off.
phil labonte
Cardio is the most important thing out there.
tim pool
Yeah, considering that zombies these days run full speed at you, and they're not the slow, lumbering ones.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you track your macros for volleyball or anything like that?
Because you're an athlete.
pearl davis
I wish.
No.
I do lift.
I can lift a lot.
I can deadlift probably like 300, 310.
Really?
For one, yeah.
deadlift probably like 300, 310.
hannah claire brimelow
Really?
pearl davis
For one, yeah, like squat, maybe like 250, something like that.
tim pool
Let's Lego says Oregon made mutual combat illegal.
The only states that still allow it are Washington and Texas.
Ah, okay.
Washington.
That's what I was thinking.
Yep.
I still don't recommend it.
What's the saying?
Something like, the fight you win is the fight you avoid, or something like that?
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
And one of my favorite videos of the martial arts master teaching the ultimate technique, where he explains to the students the one move that will guarantee you can win a fight instantly, and they're like, show us, show us!
And then he gets into the stance with another guy, and then as soon as he does, he waves his arms in the air and runs full speed out of the room.
And then everyone starts clapping and laughing, and he was like, not fighting is the surest way to win.
unidentified
Yep.
Absolutely.
tim pool
Important words, because you get these dudes... Hey, I got a story for you.
There was a guy when I was a kid.
I don't know the full story.
It's a story I heard from my parents.
Company dinner or whatever for the holidays.
Some guy hit another guy's wife.
So the guy punched the other guy in the face, fell back, hit his head on the counter, and died instantly.
Dude who threw the punch is in prison.
pearl davis
That's it.
That's the number one way that homicide is committed.
It's like a fight gone wrong.
tim pool
Yeah, I know.
Don't get into fights.
phil labonte
Look, especially like if you're a gun guy, I carry a gun.
So like the most important thing that you learn if you're carrying a gun is de-escalation.
The very first thing you do is avoid getting into a fight because if you have a gun, you don't have a whole lot of choice.
If you get into a confrontation and it becomes physical, you have to go to the gun because if you don't, if you get hit and get knocked out, that gun now is your opponent's gun.
So you have to go to the gun if you carry a gun, and that means you have to avoid getting into a fight at all costs.
You can't do ego stuff.
You can't let any of that stuff get in the way.
If you get into a confrontation, you need to de-escalate, and you need to be able to de-escalate and get away from the situation.
tim pool
All right, Master Vegas says, was listening to your podcast on Spotify and got an ad about Joe Biden shutting down Big Oil and started laughing.
Felt great shame.
Oh, and felt great shame.
Was it like an anti-Biden thing?
You know, the Spotify stuff, you have like the programmatic ads, so it's similar to YouTube.
They just, the ads that come are the ones that people bid for.
But the interesting thing is, There's no real good automated ad network anymore.
It doesn't work all that well.
The best course of action for podcasts is literally just doing direct sales yourself.
That's the plan.
And I will also give any fledgling podcaster some free advice.
Audio podcasts pay something like 10 times as much as YouTube.
Which makes no sense.
But whatever.
Don't ask me why.
That's just the way the cookie crumbles.
Cody Johnson says, I'll box you, Tim.
I don't know who you are.
Sir, I don't know you.
pearl davis
No, it's gotta be equal clout, guys.
hannah claire brimelow
You can't- So who do you have on your ticket for your boxing match?
pearl davis
There's very few women I would box, to be fair.
I don't- I'm not really seeking this.
hannah claire brimelow
But also, like, for the one that you're organizing, because you sound- you've, like- Oh, like my dream?
pearl davis
Like, nobody's agreed, but...
This is just me, you know.
I would want that Cenk guy, yeah, whatever his name is.
tim pool
Cenk Uygur.
pearl davis
Yeah, to box one of the big conservatives like Ben Shapiro or Charlie Kirk, whoever's in his weight.
I think he's a bigger guy, but I'm sure there's one.
tim pool
When you said big, I thought you were talking about like Steve Bannon maybe.
pearl davis
I don't know who that is.
tim pool
So Steve Bannon is a larger man.
Ben Shapiro is, what's about 5'8"?
I think he's your size.
No, he's like 5'8", 150 I think.
unidentified
No, I think he's- Ben Shapiro is not, he's shorter than I am.
Is he?
tim pool
Ben Shapiro gets made fun of for being short, but he's not that short.
I think he's like 5'8".
Yeah.
And he probably weighs 150.
pearl davis
Him and Nick should box.
That would be so funny.
I know, they like hate each other, right?
That'd be a great match.
They could debate and then box after.
tim pool
Alright, what do we got?
hannah claire brimelow
I think we should make the duel great again, you know?
pearl davis
I'm just, like, who would I?
Cardi B, I would take it.
tim pool
Yeah, but how tall are you?
pearl davis
I know, I'm too tall for these chicks.
I'm six foot.
tim pool
Yeah, you're in like a... You've got good reach.
You'd win all those fights.
pearl davis
Yeah, I mean, and I get offers.
Whenever I talk about this on shows, all these random OnlyFans chicks are like, oh, I'll take it.
But I'm like, I don't know.
I have to have equal clout for me to want to do it.
tim pool
Yeah, I think the issue for me, too, is it has to be...
They're like, I don't really want to box anybody.
I'm not a boxer.
So there'd have to be like, either it would be for fun, or it'd be like a true beef.
And I just don't know that any of that actually exists.
Like, I don't really have any kind of real beef with anyone legitimately.
pearl davis
I'd rather do one on one basketball.
That's what I would do.
tim pool
Play a game of skate or Magic the Gathering?
Magic the Gathering off?
With anybody who dare challenge me, my commander deck is top tier.
You will be obliterated.
pearl davis
Could do a conservative Olympics, like, you know, run like a 400.
tim pool
I got a better idea.
I should say I have a good idea is a mass e-drama beef poker game.
A poker game with eight people who despise each other?
pearl davis
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Dude, that'd be amazing.
unidentified
We should do that.
pearl davis
I don't know how to play poker, but I'm in.
tim pool
People have to learn.
It's relatively easy to learn.
It's a bit more challenging to get good at.
It's a lot of math.
But the basics of it are not too difficult.
But it would be hilarious to have just like these left, right and moderate personalities all who just like are beefing with each other playing poker at the same time.
hannah claire brimelow
I want to catch the flag game.
I feel like that would be funny.
tim pool
Ultimate Frisbee or Frisbee golf?
phil labonte
I like Ultimate Frisbee.
pearl davis
You could do like a Conservative Olympics, and so there's like a running section, a jumping section, and like see who wins the Conservative Olympics.
tim pool
I gotta be honest, if you were to... Oh, the Krasensteins work out, don't they?
The Krasnistins?
phil labonte
I think so.
tim pool
They post videos of doing exercise and stuff.
Look, I don't want to, when we're talking about liberals not doing anything else, I genuinely want to make sure I give credit where credit is due.
I'm pretty sure they post videos of exercise stuff.
phil labonte
Yeah, but, and those guys are also entrepreneurs outside of, like, so.
But I don't think they're leftists either.
tim pool
I think that they're just, they're pretending.
phil labonte
Yeah, well, I don't think that they have political, I don't think they have deep political principles.
I think that they go with what seems to be the popular culture thing, stuff.
tim pool
Yeah, we could do a battle of the bands.
pearl davis
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
You know, two people who are like, especially with you and Hasan, you know what I mean?
pearl davis
I'll do a freestyle off anyone I'm beefing with.
unidentified
That would be like Mike Tyson boxing a child.
phil labonte
I appreciate all of the right-leaning people that are out there making music and I want to see it continue.
pearl davis
You could do a rap battle.
phil labonte
Me?
pearl davis
Yeah.
unidentified
I could.
pearl davis
Like conservatives, you could do like a rap-off.
You have to freestyle.
Rap battle?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Ben Shapiro, I think, would... I feel like Ben Shapiro could win a rap battle.
phil labonte
He has, hasn't he?
tim pool
Well, he did the song with Tom McDonald, where it was kind of a joke, where he's like, all my homies download the song and get a billboard number one.
That's so funny.
Ben Shapiro is extremely quick-witted.
pearl davis
Yeah.
tim pool
Huge vocabulary.
Talks super fast.
I feel like if you asked him, To just say, hey, insult Phil, but rhyme?
It's like, if you asked him to do a diss track rap, he wouldn't even need to think about it.
He'd literally just be like, let me just rhyme as I criticize you, and then just go, and you'd be like, that was it, that was good.
phil labonte
I mean, Shapiro's not stupid.
He graduated Harvard Law at like 17 or something like that, so.
tim pool
I'm hoping he'll play the violin on a new song.
Daily Wire said that... That would rule.
I head Daily Wire, I'm like, hey, we have a new song coming out.
Phil contributed very much to it, Carter Banks as well.
And I was like, it's got room for violin.
And I'm like, I wonder if Ben would want to do it.
I asked the Daily Wire people, they said, we'll talk to him, it sounds like...
Probably, yeah.
Cause it would be, it's really easy.
It's like, if we were like, Hey, here's a song you want to just press record and record some violin for us.
And then we like, you know, featuring Phil Labonte and Ben Shapiro.
phil labonte
That would be awesome.
tim pool
Yeah.
I think at that point, it's like, we got to ask Jack Poseau to play bass.
phil labonte
Poseau could probably play bass on the end.
tim pool
Yep.
And then we, I think we got to do it now.
unidentified
Do it.
phil labonte
I'm into it.
tim pool
And James O'Keefe, we got to get him in there somewhere too.
hannah claire brimelow
James O'Keefe has to do the Trump rock opera that you were writing before.
tim pool
Oh, that's a good idea.
I think Seamus is actually working on that.
hannah claire brimelow
He should ask James O'Keefe to weigh in.
phil labonte
I love it.
tim pool
All right, we'll grab one more super chat.
Here we go.
Carlos Y says, my three daughters now have a brother.
Named him Roger after my late father.
Congrats.
He was born in ectodactyl, but is missing only one finger.
I'm in 51st state of Alberta, so no many money needed.
So pass this super chat on to someone in need.
Pearl, join us Mormons.
hannah claire brimelow
You can convert to Mormonism?
pearl davis
I'd say it's pretty unlikely.
tim pool
Everything you describe, you drive into Amish country, is gone.
pearl davis
What do you say that again?
tim pool
Like all the stuff you're talking about, like lawsuits, women, divorce, like you drive into Amish country and it's gone.
pearl davis
Oh yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
You're converting to being Amish?
pearl davis
Oh no.
Oh no.
tim pool
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pearl davis
Yeah, go to theaudacitynetwork.com.
We're going to have a documentary on the family court system, and we've been demonetized, so if you want to get the yearly or monthly membership, it would really help us out.
I'm Pearl on YouTube, PearlyThings with a Z on X, and I'm on Instagram.
They deleted it.
I forgot my new handle.
They deleted it.
It's new.
I think it's just PearlyThingsOfficial.
But yeah, thanks for having me, guys.
I had a lot of fun.
phil labonte
I am PhilThatRemains on Twix.
I'm PhilThatRemainsOfficial on Instagram.
The band is All That Remains.
You can catch us this summer on the Destroy All Enemies Tour with Megadeth and Mudvayne.
It's going to start out August 2nd, go through September 28th.
And you can check out our new single.
It's called Divine.
It's available on Spotify, Apple Music, Pandora, Amazon Music, Deezer.
You know, the internet.
And don't forget, the left lane is for crime.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlaw.
I'm a writer for scnr.scnr.com.
Man, I'm fired.
It's Scanner News.
You can check out all of their work at TimCastNews on Twitter and Instagram.
It's been so fun to be here tonight.
Guys, thank you for always watching the show.
If you want to follow me personally, I'm on Instagram at hannahclaire.b and I'm on Twitter at hannahclaireb.
Bye, Serge!
unidentified
See you later, Hannah-Claire.
See you guys.
Have a good weekend.
tim pool
I'm already, I'm a huge fan, that's why I wanted to be on that episode, because I love ghost stories.
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