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Biden Pushes Leftist HATE CRIME HOAX About Nex Benedict w/Corey DeAngelis | Timcast IRL
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tim pool
Peace.
There's a viral video.
Apparently there was a shooting.
Someone got shot in the head.
There's video of it.
Not of the shooting, but of the aftermath of people hiding in the subway cars.
And it's a pretty wild story.
I think when you see stuff like this at a time when they've called in the National Guard shows, their policies aren't working.
Their security apparatus is not working.
They're likely going to double down.
It's going to get crazy.
And Donald Trump has repeatedly said he will win New York.
Maybe he will.
Maybe he will.
I don't know if... I think there's some updates in California pertaining to the Senate race, but we'll see how things are changing as crime is out of control in this country, the corporate press keeps lying about it, and at a time when we know that it's the fault of the Democrats, namely the Biden administration, that we're having this criminal alien influx that even Democrats in major cities are upset with, what do we get?
The Biden administration put out a statement pushing the Next Benedict hate crime hoax.
For those that aren't familiar, Next Benedict was a teenager, identified as non-binary, and the media claimed it was the fault of libs of TikTok.
This individual was beaten to death.
It's a sad story, but the reality is Next Benedict committed suicide.
Not at- and completely unrelated to the incident in the school they claimed.
The initial story they put out was a lie.
Body camera footage, security camera footage, all of this debunked the narrative.
And now, facing the debunking of their hate crime hoax, Joe Biden doubles down and issues a big public statement on it.
Considering the president has just issued this statement, we're going to start off with that and we're going to debunk it.
But we'll talk about a lot.
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You know, my response was, there's been a GamerGate 2.0, 3.0, 4.0, 5.0.
There have been a whole bunch of reigniting of the GamerGate narrative.
And now, the corporate press has decided This is officially GamerGate 2.0, a story related to a company called Sweet Baby Inc, and Wired wrote a big article, and they're roping in everybody, and they're trying to make this narrative happen.
I have to assume the attempt by the corporate press to resurrect the GamerGate narrative is, it's, they're trying to win some points against Trump or something like that.
Harassment campaigns, whatever.
There's a bunch of news pertaining to Trump.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and everything else is Corey DeAngelis.
corey deangelis
Hey, thank you so much for having me, Tim.
tim pool
Who are you?
What do you do?
corey deangelis
Hey, I'm a senior fellow at the American Federation for Children.
I fight to fund students, not systems, what most people call school choice.
And you can find our website.
It's afcvf.com to help us in the fight for education freedom.
Again, Corey DeAngelo, senior fellow, American Federation for Children.
Thanks.
tim pool
Right on.
Thanks for hanging out.
We got Hannah Clare hanging out.
hannah claire brimelow
Hey, I'm happy to be back.
I'm Hannah-Claire Brimla.
I'm a writer for SCNR.com.
Libby's here tonight.
libby emmons
I'm here.
I'm hanging out.
Nice to see you, Hannah-Claire, Corey, Tim.
I'm Libby Emmons.
I am the editor-in-chief with The Post Millennial.
Glad to be here.
unidentified
And I'm Serge.com, and I'm ready when you are, Tim.
tim pool
It's Pi Day!
It is.
I ordered, I think, let me count real quick.
We got 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, Ten pies.
libby emmons
What kind of pies?
tim pool
I think I got more than that.
Oh, you name it.
I bought all the pie you could buy.
We got peach, uh, they didn't have that.
libby emmons
Okay.
tim pool
So they had peach, cherry, apple, wild blueberry, we got coconut cream, banana cream, a second banana cream, but this one was like a fake banana cream, it was kind of weird.
libby emmons
What's a fake banana cream?
tim pool
It's banana flavored cream.
libby emmons
Oh, that's nasty.
tim pool
Yeah, that was not my intention.
corey deangelis
Why'd you get 10 pies?
Did you add up?
tim pool
It's pie day!
corey deangelis
You add up certain numbers of the pie?
unidentified
3.14?
tim pool
I got one of each pie the supermarket had for pie day.
corey deangelis
And then I got here, I got here at the, I ate right before coming here, so it was a mistake.
I didn't get to try any of your pies.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
I think the apple and the blueberry, those are the ones that people really like.
hannah claire brimelow
I feel like those are the most classic.
tim pool
But we got like a chocolate satin.
All right, let's talk about news.
Happy Pi Day, everybody.
This is from the Postmillennial.
Biden calls to end discrimination against transgender children after Democrats spread false narrative about next Benedict's death.
You know, the story is particularly important because if it was not caught by people like Libs of TikTok and by the likes of Postmillennial, This could have very well been George Floyd for leftist gender ideology.
I want to show you what Joe Biden said.
We have this.
Biden presents this statement.
In memory of Nex, we must recommit our work to end discrimination and address the suicide
crisis impacting too many non-binary and transgender children.
The issue at play.
Nex Benedict dies.
16-year-old female, identifies as non-binary.
The narrative pushed by the left and a bunch of NGOs was that NextBenedict was beaten to death for being trans or non-binary.
They blamed libs of TikTok.
Body camera footage came out and revealed that NextBenedict was the aggressor who started the fight.
The police said, well, I'd have to arrest you because you're the one who started the fight.
Then, it was later reported, or I believe the following day, that Nex's death was unrelated to the fight that happened in the school, which lasted, according to security cameras, around 20 seconds.
Let's be fair, around 20 seconds.
So nothing particularly serious.
The left still maintained this could have been related to the beating, and we don't know yet, so stop jumping to conclusions.
Oh boy, they attacked me for that.
When I posted, I can't remember, it was a local news outlet, an affiliate, said it's unrelated to the incident.
They said, Tim Pool's lying, we don't know what happened.
When it came out that Nex committed suicide, the White House intervenes to maintain the hate crime hoax, and now turn it into, oh, what a crisis.
But the one thing I want to say before we read this, Democrats are the ones who have created the crisis and are acting like they're the ones fighting it.
Child desistance rates, not detransition, desistance, meaning a child identifies as transgender or displays gender dysphoria, has a high, maybe 65% to around 95% chance of desisting by puberty.
That means if you do nothing, by the time the child goes through puberty, they just accept themselves, they align with their bodies, and they lead a good life.
If you intervene with quote-unquote gender-affirming care, you increase the chance of suicide by something like 30%.
That's a fact.
And now Democrats are acting like they must fight it when they're the ones who are pushing for it.
And I must stress, in England, they've now banned the use of puberty blockers for children.
Biden says, Jill and I are heartbroken by the recent loss of Next Benedict.
Every young person deserves to have the fundamental right and freedom to be who they are and feel safe and supported at school and in their communities.
Next Benedict, a kid who just wanted to be accepted, should still be here with us today.
And I'll agree with that.
It's sad that Next committed suicide.
Non-binary and transgender people are some of the bravest Americans I know, but nobody should have to be brave just to be themselves.
In memory of NEXT, we must all recommit to our work to end discrimination and address the suicide crisis impacting too many non-binary and transgender children.
Bullying is hurtful and cruel, and no one should face the bullying that NEXT did.
Parents and schools must take reports of bullying seriously.
My prayers are with Nexus family, friends, and all who love them, and to all the LGBTQI plus Americans, for whom this tragedy feels so personal, know this, I will always have your back.
To LGBTQI young people across the country, you are loved exactly as you are.
If you're feeling overwhelmed or alone, you can call or text 988, the National Crisis Hotline, and dial the number 3 to talk to a counselor who has been civically trained to support LGBTQI plus youth.
If they were not pushing the ideology that was causing harm to these kids, this would not be happening.
And more importantly, according to the body camera footage, Max Benedict was the bully.
That's just it.
The police said, you started the fight.
As the story goes, there were some kids sitting at a turntable, and they were laughing about something the other kids were doing.
Nex Benedict took it upon herself to physically accost by filling up a bottle of water and splashing it on these girls she didn't like.
And then when they got into a fight over it, Nex got mad.
We don't know if that has anything to do with what happened, but the next day Nex Benedict committed suicide.
It's a sad story.
But Nex Benedict was the bully.
That's it, sorry.
They're lying.
libby emmons
Well, they're lying about something else, too, which is when they say that they love LGBTQIA plus youth just the way they are, they don't actually mean that.
hannah claire brimelow
Because they want them to change.
libby emmons
Because they want them to change.
They don't love them exactly how they are, you know, existing in their own bodies and going through their lives and growing up whole.
They love them with drugs and surgeries.
And so it's just an outright lie.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I wish I had the data on who kills more trans people, you know, hate crime hoaxes or hate crimes or suicide.
I think suicide is more dangerous.
libby emmons
Yeah, but the thing about the suicides as well, and we've seen this in reporting, and it's been coming out all over the place with the WPATH files, you know, which was such an interesting project to read through.
It shows that, and also Abigail Schreier has come out with this new book called Bad Therapy, basically saying, why are kids more screwed up now when there's more mental health resources than anything else?
Maybe it's the mental health resources that are the problem.
And in a lot of cases, that's what's going on.
corey deangelis
The further these kids get into this process and being processed through the mental health system, you know, and you see this with like the social emotional learning and all I think a lot of the kids are getting confused at a really young age, and I like how you pointed out, Libby, that they don't love you for who you are, and they're confusing kids when they're really young to change.
Oh, you're not actually a boy, maybe you're a girl.
Oh, the doctor said you were a boy when you were born, but that's just your assigned sex at birth.
It's not actually what you are.
libby emmons
Another lie.
hannah claire brimelow
That's why I found the line where he's like, Contact the national hotline.
Great national hotline.
Obviously you want teens that are at risk to get help.
But then he says, and press 3 to go to someone who is specifically trained to talk to someone who is trained to work with LGBTQ letters, letters, youth.
That scares me.
What are they trained to tell them?
What are they trained to do?
Because I bet it's to encourage them to pursue surgery, to pursue hormones, to divest themselves from their family.
If their parents are saying like, we love you, but we don't want you to go through this.
We want you to accept yourself for who you are.
The message that comes from these mental health professionals, I don't want to say all of them, I don't know all of them, but to me it seems likely that the federal government wants to continue this trend.
tim pool
Real quick, real quick, I think this is an important thing to address too.
It was reported, I think the New York Times said suicide, is that correct?
libby emmons
The New York Times said suicide?
tim pool
Because I've also heard overdose.
libby emmons
Well, it was suicide by overdose.
tim pool
Suicide simply means you died by your own actions.
The question is, was it an issue of NACs intentionally trying to die, or was NACs trying to get high?
hannah claire brimelow
It's an interesting question.
The police department came out and said there was always evidence in this case that it was a suicide, which makes me think that there's maybe a note or there's something else that we're not aware of.
And the coroner in their preliminary report before we got the toxicology report said, you know, there is no evidence that the injuries or the death was caused in relation to trauma sustained during the fight.
unidentified
Right.
libby emmons
Well, that was the first thing.
hannah claire brimelow
That was the first thing.
Then it was the toxicity.
tim pool
And then the police said... So the question I have Uh, and this is an important distinction.
People will often see in the media that, uh, someone died and it was ruled a homicide.
And people think homicide means murder.
It does not.
Homicide means killed by man.
corey deangelis
So... Could've been an accident.
tim pool
Could've been an accident, uh, uh, or could've been intentional.
I'm wondering if when they report overdoses, they list it as a suicide, meaning killed by self.
There's a distinction between someone who says, I'm very depressed, I can no longer take this anymore, and ends their life, and a 16-year-old who's like, time to get high.
corey deangelis
That's a good point.
Yeah, I don't think we know the distinction yet.
tim pool
Do we define, earmuffs, for the family, earmuffs, that's your warning, do we list autoerotic asphyxiation as a suicide?
That's an honest question.
libby emmons
I mean, that's why I said... I wouldn't say that's a suicide, but you wouldn't say it's an intentional suicide.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, right.
libby emmons
It's like involuntary suicide.
hannah claire brimelow
And I think state scorners might have some variation in how much detail they release.
But again, like the fact that the police said this phrase of, there was always evidence in this case that this was a suicide, makes me think it's beyond just what, you know, I think that there was something else when the report comes out.
tim pool
They would have said overdose.
libby emmons
Yeah, they said it was from diphenhydramine and fluoxetine.
tim pool
So what are those?
libby emmons
Which I think is basically like Benadryl.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, it's like Benadryl and anti-depressant?
Am I wrong?
libby emmons
Benadryl and SSRIs?
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
Something like that.
tim pool
Fluoxetine, is that how you pronounce it?
unidentified
It's a major depressive disorder.
tim pool
Approved for major depressive disorder.
libby emmons
I wonder if she was on those.
tim pool
Obsessive compulsive disorder, bulimia, binge eating.
hannah claire brimelow
What are the odds?
I would take that bet.
tim pool
PMDD, even.
corey deangelis
Didn't the parents at one point... What's PMDD?
tim pool
Postmenstrual dysphoria?
No, hold on.
libby emmons
Dysphoria?
tim pool
Dysphoric disorder, yeah.
Premenstrual dysphoric disorder.
libby emmons
Okay.
tim pool
What is that?
hannah claire brimelow
It's like extreme PMS, kind of, except there's like other agitations come with it.
Women are crazy, man.
And it's interesting that if that was why it was prescribed, that would definitely confirm some estrogen.
corey deangelis
But I mean, I've also, I saw it listed initially as next uh or reported as next overdosed on benadryl prozac which prozac obviously would be uh oh right i bet that's what it is so we have no uh evidence of a history of bullying we have no evidence of anything that yeah biden is claiming it's just it's just interesting how the left jumped on this story without evidence saying that she was she died because she was beat up at school and then it must have been because bullying and you can just tell like
The left does whatever they can to try to cancel Libs at TikTok.
They say that she caused bomb threats at school, that she's causing all of these things just by sharing videos of liberals on TikTok doing things that are absolutely insane.
tim pool
There is an argument for bullying.
In the body camera footage, Nex and her mother are saying, like, these girls have been doing this stuff before.
There's a history of it.
But based on at least the report we have, the logical conclusion is these are teenagers in high school who are fighting with each other.
It is not, based on the fact that Nex was the one who started the fight, I don't think it's necessarily indicative of like, oh no, I'm being bullied, help, help, why won't they stop?
It's Nex got mad that they were sitting at a different table and laughing about something about them.
And so she got up, filled up a water bottle, they went in the bathroom apparently and she splashed the girl in the face.
So it's like, Sounds more like mutual disdain, if you would.
The side that ends up losing out is going to claim they're being bullied.
Whichever side it was.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, when the story broke, one of the first things I thought of was, like, if this person dies because of injuries sustained by this fight, which, by the way, the Human Rights Campaign has a message still on their website saying, next succumb to the injuries from the fight.
tim pool
Really?
unidentified
Yes!
hannah claire brimelow
This is still up.
I pulled it from my story for Standard Day.
It's not true.
It's not true.
I'll send you the link if you want.
But, like, it's wild to me.
It's a message from February 21st.
libby emmons
But when this all came out... February 21st is when the police first said that she did not die from...
hannah claire brimelow
How interesting, right?
libby emmons
Fight injuries.
hannah claire brimelow
But when this came out, I kept thinking about these, you know, two or three high school girls that were involved in the fight, and like, are they gonna be brought up on murder charges for a fight they didn't start?
For someone who didn't die of injuries related to anything that happened?
tim pool
If Libs of TikTok didn't call this out, if other news outlets, Post Malone, weren't calling this out, These girls would probably be criminally charged because there'd be protests across the country screaming, and then a month later, people would go, oh, that's what really happened, but it wouldn't matter.
This got debunked right away, and that prevented them from pulling off their, you know, George Floyd-esque gender ideology.
hannah claire brimelow
Right, and no one, like, intentionally leaked their... I mean, they're minors, so you're not supposed to use their names anyways, but, like, nobody intentionally leaked their names.
I'm sure there are people in their community who might know who was involved in this fight, but You know, you could have really ruined these girls' lives over something that they—ultimately, it sounds like the person who was involved had a lot bigger demons and a lot going on.
tim pool
Look at this.
This is HRC, 16-year-old non-binary high school student who tragically died in a school beating.
corey deangelis
It's technically correct, because it was after.
tim pool
It's not correct, there's no beating.
Surveillance footage shows her and other girls walk into a bathroom for about 20 seconds, and they all walk out.
A teacher runs in, maybe they were yelling, she splashed him in the face, she got hit, they walk out.
And then later, they call it a beating to try and get the girls arrested, and the cop's like, but you started the fight.
She's like, okay, whatever.
hannah claire brimelow
Right, and the preliminary coroner's report said that this person's death did not occur because of trauma sustained during this fight.
Like, it is not related to the fight, was the first thing we knew for sure from the medical examiner, who, by the way, is the only person who really would have the facts, as far as I can tell.
tim pool
Tomorrow, NBC News is gonna write, Tim Pool and Far-Right Push Lie Accusing Next Blah Blah Blah.
They did this thing, it was really funny, Matt Walsh tweeted about it.
So, uh, I tweeted, you know, murder, chaos, cannibalism.
This is Haiti.
Look at El Salvador.
Trump called both of them ish holes.
The media attacked Nayib Bukele.
Which country would you rather live in?
The one they said was already great or the one they attacked Nayib Bukele?
Look at how great El Salvador is.
NBC News wrote this thing where they attacked Elon, me, Ian Miles Chong, Matt Walsh for accurately pointing out cannibal gangs in Haiti.
The funniest part was it said that we were pushing misinformation about cannibalism and then in the fourth paragraph of the article confirmed the cannibalism.
And they were like, but...
They're eating people on camera to scare people, not for food.
And I was like, that's literally what I said.
I've been saying it the whole time.
libby emmons
It also doesn't matter the reason you're eating other human beings.
corey deangelis
They know that only people are going to look at the headlines.
tim pool
Exactly.
What they're going to do, to try and defend their hoax, is they'll put up headlines that say, you know, Elon Musk is a liar, and then they'll confirm what he said was true later in the story, but it doesn't matter because people will only read the first paragraph.
hannah claire brimelow
Right.
corey deangelis
And so does this story say in the middle of it that it wasn't because of the injuries?
tim pool
Well, this is from February 21st.
libby emmons
But they never updated it.
hannah claire brimelow
They never updated it.
tim pool
But as Hannah-Claire pointed out, the first thing we knew is that it was unrelated to the fight in school.
libby emmons
We knew that on that day.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, it did, Next did die after a fight in school, but I wouldn't say it was a school beating as far, I mean, as far as anyone has really classified it.
I find this to be really weird.
The thing about Biden's statement, one of the first headlines I saw when I was researching it today was, Biden condemns LGBTQ suicide, like, you know, wave or whatever.
First off, I don't know why we're lumping people who struggle with gender issues in with everybody else in the alphabet spectrum.
That seems like they might have different challenges.
But also, if you really cared, wouldn't you take the reality that some of the things that you are pushing as therapy are actually causing more harm?
Like, if you really thought this was important, why would you use them as a political talking point?
Why wouldn't you accept the fact that some of the things we've been saying and encouraging actually put people who are at risk in more harm?
tim pool
Before we move on, I just want to give a shout out.
We do have one super chat from MF Damien who says, no, it's accidental overdose when not intended.
So I'm assuming that's what you're saying.
That's what they'll list it as in the report and then we'll put suicide.
So suicide, I guess, is the intent to self-harm.
Let's talk about where we're currently at in the political cycle.
I don't like to start with these stories.
I like to save these for later on in the show because they're not the heaviest of news.
But I think we are seeing with this story from Not The Bee, we are seeing Gen Z. We are seeing victory.
I see a pattern here with this story.
It is about a young Gen Z woman complaining she can't pay the bills.
And I believe she is lying.
But I believe that shows Trump is going to win.
And I'll tell you why.
There's a video that was posted by Wall Street Silver.
I made a segment about it earlier where I talked about the general concepts around what a young woman could do if she can't afford to pay the rent, how society used to be, the fact that women never used to be single up until the 20th century.
Like, women did not live alone until the 20th century.
libby emmons
Well, there were spinsters and stuff.
tim pool
In the 20th century.
Before that, most people did not live alone.
Even men did not live alone.
And so now we have these young people.
So that was the general idea.
Upon actually We're recording and talking about the economy's bad, food costs too much.
She says she doesn't go on vacation.
She doesn't, she doesn't have luxuries.
She can't afford her rent.
She's crying.
And I'm like, here we go.
Joe Biden's economy is, is killing these young people.
And so then I looked up her profile and what did I find?
She likely lives in a two bedroom.
She has like eight cats and she's married and recently went on vacation.
Now that said something to me right away.
Oh, grifter, right?
A lot of people are like, so this young lady right here is grifting and just trying to get sympathy to get views so she can make money.
And then I thought to myself, why would she think making a video saying it's so hard, prices are so high, why would she think that's going to make money for her?
And sure enough, it did.
She's got millions of views on this post.
I think it might be four million.
I'll put up a second.
It's either 1.5 or 4.3.
I'll pull it up in a second.
And then I realized something.
Someone asked the other night, we were talking about Chris Cuomo and Patrick Bette David, they hired him, and I said, look, when we start winning the culture war, the sycophants and sociopaths are going to start pretending they were always on our side, and they're going to try and make shows agreeing with us, like Chris Cuomo is literally doing.
He made a video where he's like, why did I sit down with Tucker?
Because I believe in free speech!
Oh yeah, the guy who called for lockdowns, who lied about being in quarantine.
No, what's gonna happen is, when they realize they're on the wrong side of history, they're gonna run full speed and beg us to crawl into the doggy door.
What we're seeing with this young woman, in my opinion, Is a Gen Z person who's realized the popular narrative is Joe Biden has stabbed us all in the back.
And if you want to get views, you better insult the economy and say everything's awful.
She made another video where she's like, I'm undercover calling my apartment to figure out why prices are so high.
And she says, how much is a two bedroom go for?
And I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait.
hannah claire brimelow
Why do you want to know that one?
tim pool
Yeah, right. So she's crying.
libby emmons
Even if you don't live in a studio apartment.
tim pool
And then she has another video where she's like, here's all my cats.
And she's filming like a bunch of cats and I'm like, you're not broke.
You're living in luxury.
Someone else posted a screenshot of another segment, which I haven't confirmed, I haven't seen the segment, but she says, my husband and I are going on vacation.
And I'm like, so she lied?
libby emmons
Yeah, it sounds like a lie.
unidentified
But it worked.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
As I've mentioned with people like Dylan Mulvaney, and no, we're not going to talk about that stupid music video.
Dylan Mulvaney only does what Dylan does because the algorithm promotes it.
So now, which is interesting, you have Gen Z people thinking, if I make a video complaining about the economy, I'm going to go viral and get a ton of followers.
That says to me, the sociopaths are starting to move over, assuming that we are on the right side of history and the path to success lies in criticizing Joe Biden and supporting Donald Trump.
corey deangelis
What do her other videos look like?
Is it just random content?
Does she get a lot of views on her other content as well?
Or is she just chasing views?
unidentified
4.3.
corey deangelis
Yeah, 4.3 million.
hannah claire brimelow
Whatever gets attention, I'm going to boost it up.
tim pool
Oh, so she did really well with that one.
unidentified
Yep.
hannah claire brimelow
But that's why she made the second one about calling.
tim pool
Take a look at this.
If you look at all of her content, what do you see?
39,000, 36,000, 72,000.
Yeah, that's pretty good.
What is this one?
Can someone please tell me where these jobs are?
See, she has been like, okay, here's one like, where are these jobs?
I don't see them.
And it got 72,000 up from, you know, some of her other content.
My BFF came over, 33.
When you see this type of guy, you know, 45.
My husband wanted an air fryer, 36.9.
So she's a dual income household with a bunch of cats, and then she made, I know I'm not the only one like this right now, how are we supposed to do this, I don't understand, 4.3 million views.
Young people have realized There is money to be made in pretending like you have been screwed over, and so the sociopaths are gonna do it.
This shows us one thing, and will cause another thing.
The first thing it'll show, the first thing it shows, as I've already stated, that these people are starting to... I don't think she's political at all.
I think she just realized, oh boy, I'm gonna go viral if I do this.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, she saw a lot of people were talking about it.
tim pool
There's tons of stories.
corey deangelis
This is why Biden wants to ban TikTok.
tim pool
Potentially.
Now that's turned against him.
Israel is the real reason, mind you.
But sociopaths and grifters are now trying to make money by saying, oh no, I've been so wrong.
Look at all the cats.
How many cats are in here?
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7.
And it's got less than 10,000 views.
libby emmons
7,000 views.
unidentified
She has eight cats.
hannah claire brimelow
One room of her apartment is just all litter boxes.
tim pool
Here's what this does, though.
libby emmons
The most I ever had was three cats and it felt like a thousand.
tim pool
This is a cascade effect.
More people are going to see 4.3 million views and they're gonna go, this is how I get followers.
This is how I go viral.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
tim pool
When Donald Trump was elected, I worked with this guy at Discovery.
corey deangelis
So is that way, is that going to be people running to the right?
tim pool
Yes.
corey deangelis
Just for the short run?
I mean, it's going to be whoever's in office, they'll make videos to cry about how bad things are.
So it'll be against the incumbent.
It can go both ways, right?
tim pool
But in the short run... No, I don't think so.
I don't think, based on this, we can predict how things will actually go in terms of will they turn on Trump.
Because it wasn't as political until Trump.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
So maybe, who knows.
I worked with the guy at Discovery.
Normal video producer.
We produced some pretty big videos for Discovery.
One of them was, uh, how powerful are nuclear weapons?
It had over a million views in like a day.
It was crazy.
And one day he discovered that by replying to Donald Trump, he got followers.
He destroyed his career and became a weirdo.
He went from being a video producer at Discovery to this Trump reply guy who only ever said Trump sucks in the stupidest of ways.
And he got 100,000 followers from it.
He didn't care about Trump, he didn't know about Trump, but he was like, oh boy, I'm getting attention.
corey deangelis
Is that like George Conway?
tim pool
Perhaps, I don't know.
libby emmons
It's like Dylan Mulvaney deciding to be trans.
tim pool
Exactly.
libby emmons
It's really all about the attention.
tim pool
Look at the original content that was produced by Mulvaney and it's like safari stuff.
And then once Mulvaney realized... So, okay, let's talk about the music video.
I don't want to say too much because I really think it's stupid.
libby emmons
Yeah, it's stupid.
tim pool
The one thing I can say is Mulvaney put out a music video called Days of Girlhood.
This is the point.
Dylan Mulvaney has no personality, no character, no talent, nothing.
The only thing Dylan Mulvaney has is, by being trans, the algorithm promotes you.
So what does Dylan Mulvaney do?
Let's just make more stuff, being trans.
That's all it is, because the algorithm promotes it.
This is why I think TikTok is bad.
However, I will say, Gen Z people trying to manipulate the system while living in the sheer utmost of luxury in a... Okay, unless her husband is like a stay-at-home husband who's not working.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, somebody's got to take care of those cats.
unidentified
That's true.
libby emmons
That's a lot of cats.
Right.
tim pool
But anyway, long story short, that's my point.
I think this shows not only is Gen Z starting to side with Trump, but a lot of Gen Z thinks it's cool and it's going to get you followers to side with Trump.
So they're going to chase that narrative whether they actually care or not.
libby emmons
Well, because that has become the counterculture.
It's sort of interesting that a former president's political aspirations have become countercultural.
Like, president is the epitome of mainstream political.
hannah claire brimelow
But he's maintained being an outsider.
Like, it's the most Trump thing of all time.
libby emmons
He maintained being an outsider while literally living in the White House and being in charge of the entire military.
hannah claire brimelow
For that, we have to thank the Democrats, I guess.
tim pool
Take a look at this.
Not that B highlights some responses.
RFK Jr.
says, This is why I'm running for president.
This experience is increasingly common and the strongest driving force behind voters' desperation for change.
I will work tirelessly to earn your vote between now and November.
I love it.
Here you go, Dinesh D'Souza.
This is Joe Biden's America.
If you don't want to live like this, vote accordingly in November.
The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, but in ourselves.
And the reality?
She lives in likely a two-bedroom with eight cats and a husband and is complaining about a rent increase.
I can still respect being upset about a rent increase of $500.
Sure, that's a lot.
But you have a dual-income two-bedroom with eight cats.
You are not by any means broke.
corey deangelis
And now if my wife is watching this, her reply is going to be, Corey, we need seven more cats.
tim pool
Just seven?
hannah claire brimelow
She's like, look, it's in our budget.
corey deangelis
Look, I can see it.
They fit here and here and here.
We don't have enough.
hannah claire brimelow
No, it's wild.
I mean, I think it is worth noting the fact that, like, a way to- Well, that's a wrong one.
tim pool
A way to get famous is- No, no, I made the same mistake.
corey deangelis
I said- Presumably, though.
tim pool
When I saw the video, I said, one thing she can do is find a good man, and if she doesn't want to work or she's stressed out by it, find an older guy who can easily pay the bills.
Maybe there's a guy who's 40, who's making six figures, maybe 180k a year.
He'll be like, I'll take care of all the bills.
Then it turns out, she actually is married.
So a lot of people then said, she's grifting to pay her rent.
It's like, ah, there you go.
Crocodile tears, pretending to be upset, oh woe is me, why is everything so bad?
But it's be- like, all that matters is this, the simple math.
It is now a fact.
If you make a video where you say, I am screwed over by this economy, you go viral.
hannah claire brimelow
Right, because it's a unifying issue for all these young people on the platform, right?
A lot of them feel economic pressure.
I mean, maybe she doesn't feel it as much as she's claiming to, but it's a regular conversation that I think a lot of people have.
Rent's really expensive, I don't know how I'm going to buy a house, do whatever, like all of these things.
And whether or not she actually is living in that desperate of a situation or not, she is aware that it will pull from every angle of life.
She's not just talking to women, she's also talking to men, she's also talking to older generations who are concerned about what their kids are going to do.
This is a topic that really drives everyone to your channel.
corey deangelis
And it doesn't matter what her preferred solution is.
It might be universal basic income.
It might be socialism.
But it doesn't matter, right?
It doesn't matter, right?
Because people know Biden is in charge of the country right now.
Things aren't going well.
And so the responses are going to look like what we're seeing here.
unidentified
Right.
hannah claire brimelow
But she's not even offering a solution.
She just gets to be like, this is bad.
And that's the most non-political stance.
Like, yes, it is bad.
libby emmons
Her job isn't to offer solutions.
Her job is to cry on TikTok.
tim pool
That's right.
corey deangelis
And Trump will benefit from that either way.
tim pool
Here's the final point on this.
The most important point is I don't expect her to actually vote for Trump.
She doesn't actually care whether you or anyone else votes for Trump.
libby emmons
She might not even be registered to vote.
tim pool
She is fabricating a narrative, a viral narrative, that will, one, encourage people to vote for Trump, and two, encourage others to make more grifty videos where they say, this economy is bad, which will create a cascade effect of a narrative emerges that Biden has screwed us all over, the economy is miserable, and for that reason, Trump is the only one that makes sense.
Could be why Gen Z is now, according to, I think it was a Harvard Caps poll, Newsweek report on this, we covered it last week, Gen Z has the highest level of support for Trump out of any age group.
Which is odd, considering many of these people were children when he was president.
libby emmons
Right, that is interesting.
hannah claire brimelow
But their parents were less stressed about the economy.
unidentified
Then they were on the brink of... Yeah, that's true.
hannah claire brimelow
And that he put out merch with his own mugshot.
I'm sorry, that's amazing.
libby emmons
They had it all planned.
tim pool
He is an old man, but he is funny.
Could you imagine having a grandpa that was like Trump?
It'd be the best.
You'd love Christmas.
I can't wait to go to Thanksgiving because my grandpa always calls my liberal aunt like a dumb hooker or something.
libby emmons
Oh, I love that.
I want to go to that Thanksgiving.
That one sounds fun.
corey deangelis
He's entertaining, too, being in office.
I mean, it's fun watching Biden call the Egyptian president the president of Mexico, but it's not nearly as fun as watching the media freak out every time that Trump would tweet anything.
tim pool
It's Thanksgiving, and you have two grandfathers.
One grandfather is a foul-mouthed old coot who says shockingly offensive things with quick wit and pisses off many members of your family, but you laugh when he does it.
Your other grandpa...
He's senile.
And when he makes these mistakes, it's sad, and we're worried about Grandpa.
And he mumbles a lot.
And he's always touching the kids.
corey deangelis
We don't like that.
tim pool
Sniffing them.
Yeah, sniffing the kids.
So, you know, kid comes to Thanksgiving, and he sees two grandpas.
And, you know, Grandpa Trump is sitting there, and the cringy liberal aunt says something, and then he insults her.
Everyone laughs.
And the kid laughs, and the parent goes, don't you listen, that's a bad influence.
And then, you know, Creepy Grandpa Joe comes over to the kid, and the guy's like, no, no, no, you don't, you stay away from Creepy Grandpa Joe.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, Creepy Grandpa Joe's always saying the future's over and bad things happened way back in, you know what I mean?
Whereas Grandpa Trump is like, having fun, hanging out.
There's that video of it.
Laura Trump posted a video of Trump going to Grandparents Day with her daughter.
libby emmons
I was going to say, I love the grandpa videos.
hannah claire brimelow
She looks so happy to see him.
She's adorable anyways, and he's very much engaged with her.
It's cool to see.
libby emmons
They clearly hang out.
Yes, they do.
tim pool
I was honored to go to the White House for the social media summit.
And I thought it was going to be a serious sit-down to address the problems of big tech manipulation and all that stuff, and Trump just did stand-up for like an hour or whatever.
And the whole crowd's just laughing, and I was like, this is wild.
He's literally just doing stand-up comedy.
He's very self-aware, he was making tons of jokes, and he had bits.
libby emmons
That's so great.
tim pool
Yeah, it was just, I'm like, wow.
hannah claire brimelow
He is having fun, and I think we all would like that in a president, I'm not going to lie.
tim pool
You go to his rallies, too.
I think anybody who's been to a Trump rally knows that he's doing a kind of stand-up.
libby emmons
Well, and he's having a great time, and they love him.
tim pool
Yeah.
It's funny.
corey deangelis
This video is another reason why we might not want to ban TikTok.
And besides, how are we going to expose the rot that's happening in the government schools if they don't tell on themselves?
hannah claire brimelow
I thought we were bringing back Vine.
tim pool
All right.
Well, I tweeted at Elon the other day.
I said, hey, Elon Musk, bring back Vine.
He said, in what form?
And I said, as it was, like, you'll have to obviously update it because it's been gone for a decade, but you resurrect it as it was, and then you start adding those features, but Vine was TikTok.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I don't really understand the difference between the two.
I've never been on TikTok at night.
tim pool
Seven-second videos.
hannah claire brimelow
They're seven-second, but wasn't TikTok shorter initially, too?
libby emmons
All the Vine people went to TikTok.
hannah claire brimelow
Right.
tim pool
Well, Snapchat, then TikTok.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
libby emmons
I forgot about Snapchat.
tim pool
Yep, Snapchat kind of fizzled out.
hannah claire brimelow
It's just for teenagers to message each other and make it disappear, as well as predators, you know?
No shade to Snapchat, which I'm sure is a lovely business.
tim pool
One of the stupidest things they could have done.
They didn't know how to monetize Vine.
It was very expensive, so they just get rid of it.
And that's crazy.
They bought it and then destroyed it.
corey deangelis
But it was sort of before- Was it Facebook that bought Vine?
Twitter.
Twitter bought Vine.
tim pool
That's why I said Elon, bring it back.
Because Twitter owns it.
They bought it.
unidentified
They just phased it out.
tim pool
So it's part of his IP.
hannah claire brimelow
It was sort of before influencer marketing became a thing, right?
Because that's what I think about with TikTok, the fact that there are so many people like- No, no, no.
tim pool
It certainly existed.
The Paul brothers got big on Vine.
hannah claire brimelow
I know they got big, but then I thought they sort of monetized off YouTube.
I don't really know.
tim pool
I think the challenge is with a seven-second video, how do you do marketing other than you're eating a bag of Doritos as you do your bit or something?
hannah claire brimelow
Right.
tim pool
But a ton of these guys who got big on Vine, people, remained big and transferred over to YouTube.
Vine, seven-second videos, it was easy, but all they had to do was just update Vine to be slightly longer, and it's literally TikTok.
corey deangelis
Wow.
tim pool
Yep.
Let's jump to the story, though.
Ladies and gentlemen, it may be that Donald Trump is right this time.
He said in 2016, I'm gonna win New York, and then he didn't.
He said in 2020, I'm gonna win New York, and then he didn't.
And now he's saying once again he will win New York, maybe this time.
This is a wild video.
Take a look at this.
This is not the video of the shooting.
This is just a video of people in a subway train ducking in panic because there are reports that, well, at the scene, not in this video, I want to stress that, someone apparently got shot in the head on the New York subways.
Now, if you came to me any other day and said, did you hear a guy got shot in the New York subway?
I'd be like, wow, really?
That's it.
But if you come to me and say, hey, did you hear some guy got shot in the New York subway?
I'd be like, with the National Guard deployed?
libby emmons
With the National Guard deployed.
unidentified
Wow!
libby emmons
This is in Brooklyn and they abandoned the Outer Boroughs as soon as, as soon as they start losing money, as soon as they start, you know, as soon as the city starts declining.
You're on your own.
And that was the, I say this all the time, but that was the great thing about Bloomberg.
He pumped all this cash into Manhattan, it spilled over into the outer boroughs, the outer boroughs became nice.
corey deangelis
Well, and in 2022, Zeldin only lost, the Republican only lost by what, five or six points?
libby emmons
Yeah.
corey deangelis
So maybe it's in striking distance now that Biden's approval rating is even lower.
tim pool
What's the latest on the CA Senate race?
corey deangelis
Oh yeah, they can't count, right?
libby emmons
With Schiff?
tim pool
They can't count.
corey deangelis
I mean, Argentina counted all their ballots in six hours with millions of people.
California's still not.
tim pool
Did he win already?
Is that what happened?
No, they advanced.
Where's the date on this?
Like, what's the update on this?
Like, do we know?
libby emmons
You mean the Feinstein seat?
tim pool
No, no, no.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
libby emmons
Yeah, it was Schiff and Garvey, but they go to a runoff.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
When is the runoff?
unidentified
Do we know?
libby emmons
It's probably like June or something like that.
Or is it November?
tim pool
I don't know, but here, check this out.
So we're talking about New York.
Maybe Trump wins California.
Take a look at this.
I suppose because Katie Porter is there.
Is that what's happening?
She split the vote?
corey deangelis
Wow!
Oh yeah, because there's two other Democrats on the ballot, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, with Barbara Lee and Katie Porter.
corey deangelis
Out of all those, it's a 70-30 race.
tim pool
Oh, so if this goes to a runoff, Adam Schiff wins.
libby emmons
Yeah, he'll get all those votes.
tim pool
Wow!
And what do you need?
You need to cross 50% or something?
corey deangelis
I don't know.
Yeah, 50%.
Texas has the same rule where if you're top two go to runoffs.
Ours are May 28th.
tim pool
So Trump's not gonna be winning California.
But with stories like this, I bet there's a lot of people in New York who are probably gonna vote for Trump and not say anything.
I don't know if New York City ever turns red.
These people, I think, are unwell, as it were.
hannah claire brimelow
I would be surprised if New York City completely turned red, but I wonder if there will be different districts that that tip the scales this time, because I think that there are people who are really frustrated.
And, you know, New York lost such a huge portion of its population, especially its wealthy population during COVID.
And largely a lot of those moves actually happened under Biden during 2021.
I know when I was at the New York Young Republicans Gala and Trump was speaking there, it was a really high energy event.
I mean, we've already been saying Trump's a great speaker, but it is interesting that the oldest young Republican club in the country is actually in New York.
It's not in Texas.
It's not in Montana.
It's in New York.
It's not even in DC, right?
There was a time when Republicans, even though maybe the city leaned blue, still occupied the city.
And we know that upstate definitely leans red, too.
So I can't say what's going to happen.
You're a New Yorker.
What do you think?
libby emmons
I think that Republicans should get in there and actually provide some decent candidates.
We don't see a lot of good leadership for Republicans in the city.
We don't see a lot of good leadership from Republicans in the state.
I think Zeldin was great, but people didn't get behind him.
The national Republicans did not get behind him.
They didn't fight for it.
And if the Republicans aren't going to fight for those places, then they're never going to win them.
And the city is declining.
and the residents of New York City, what they really care about, when times are good,
sure, they care about abortion and solar panels and whatever else, but when times are tough in New York,
New Yorkers care about just a couple of things, quality of life, safety, trash pickup,
accessibility of public transit.
That's what they care about.
corey deangelis
And it can't get much worse.
And rent.
I just looked up really quickly, the Republicans controlled the Senate in New York
from 1939 until 2009.
So it's not impossible, things are getting bad with crime.
Democrats have been opposing charter schools in New York City for a long time, whereas a lot of Democrat families are on waitlists to get in those, banging down the doors, and you have a cap on the charter schools in New York City.
libby emmons
It's hard to get into schools in New York City.
Yeah, I mean, I had trouble with that with my son before we left, and it was like, we were on waitlists for a half dozen schools, Christian schools, Catholic schools, to try and get into them.
tim pool
I think Republicans should approach this like a, uh, the election, like a Chinese finger trap problem.
You know, they're trying so hard to pull their fingers out.
It's only getting tighter.
And the answer is actually simple.
Republicans should all issue a statement right now.
Every single one unanimously signed saying, you know, we changed our mind.
We are in favor of abortion.
And then they'll have a press conference with like Donald Trump or I think Trump would be the perfect guy for this.
unidentified
He'd be like, you know, we talked about it and, uh, We like it when liberals kill the kids.
tim pool
No more of them.
Basically putting out a statement where they're like, upon further realization, we realized that liberals were the ones getting abortions, so we're totally in favor of it now.
But not because they literally want to support abortion.
Think about the narrative reaction to Republicans saying, actually we're completely on board because we realized, ideologically, conservatives and Christians don't get them, so the only people killing their kids will be liberals, and we decided we're okay with that.
corey deangelis
It won't be enough.
tim pool
How would Democrats respond to that?
corey deangelis
I don't know how they tried to flip the script, but if it did become bipartisan and that was the shakeup where maybe it changed the political calculus and the number of people voting at the Republican versus Democrat side.
But the Democrats control the schools and they can brainwash enough voters to vote socialist in the future that way.
We have 50 million kids going through the government school system every year to like big government policy.
So I think we've got to start there.
hannah claire brimelow
50 million.
That's such a crazy number.
tim pool
Government indoctrination centers.
libby emmons
Yeah, they really are.
And they're moving into the community schools as well, so that there's going to be more people from the community in the schools.
You're going to have health care available for kids.
And then you also have all these states where children are allowed to make their own medical decisions without their parents.
tim pool
But I'm genuinely curious what you guys think Democrats would do if Republicans said, we now support abortion and we actually encourage Democrats to have them.
libby emmons
I think they would get pissed, and then the lie of their whole pro-abortion thing would really have to get reversed.
But I think they would scream and rant about it.
corey deangelis
So I had a tweet where I said... I don't know if they would run further to the left and say, oh, we've got to be able to kill the babies after they're born as well.
They already did.
tim pool
Northam said that already.
corey deangelis
So they've already gotten there.
tim pool
It's actually a few years ago.
corey deangelis
I'm behind on the times.
I didn't know they were that crazy.
tim pool
Yeah, so I'm genuinely curious how they could respond to something like that.
libby emmons
Can you envision it?
Can you envision Joy Reid coming out and saying, they want you to kill your children, and that's why they're saying that they're pro-abortion.
tim pool
And they'll say, no, no, she's right.
Joy, yes, absolutely.
But it's your choice.
libby emmons
Now they're saying it's your choice if you should have an abortion or not.
tim pool
That's a huge victory for Republicans to make them say you're killing your children.
libby emmons
It would be pretty amazing.
tim pool
I tweeted, you should have to prove you're a Democrat in order to get an abortion.
And the point of the tweet was, Democrats like to say that Republicans get abortions too.
They say, oh, these Republicans say they're pro-life, but they secretly get abortions.
I'm like, that's the point.
Don't let them.
If a Republican comes out and says, no abortions, and then secretly has a mistress go get an abortion, then you say no.
You don't allow it, right?
There you go.
And then for the conservatives, it's like, only Democrats get abortions.
I just think the whole issue is absolutely fascinating.
That is quite literally Democrats begging to excise themselves from the gene pool.
And Republicans being like, stop, please don't.
I don't know why there's absolute compassion there from the conservatives who are desperately trying to save these kids, but man, Democrats are really trying.
hannah claire brimelow
I wonder if the left would take the sort of the approach to take with immigration, which is like if you're an illegal immigrant, they're like, don't give any documentation.
You don't want them to know.
So they're like, well, Republicans are going to track who gets abortions and they're going to terrorize you some other way.
They're going to be like, it's a prelude to The Handmaid's Tale kind of thing.
Like you'll get some sort of anti, you know, Data collection pro-privacy movement coming from the left because they're scared of some sort of weird tactic.
corey deangelis
And they'll attack motives and they'll just say, oh, they're just doing it for political purposes.
tim pool
No, no, but that's the point.
Then you'll get like a debate on MSNBC where the Democrat says, you're just doing this for political points.
And they'll be like, yeah, what do you mean?
Don't you guys want us to support your right to abortion?
And we realize that if you keep doing this in 20 years, we own the electorate.
So we're just kind of like, yeah, I guess.
Why not?
libby emmons
If that's what you want to do, then go ahead and sterilize your children and kill your babies.
tim pool
Yeah, we're done fighting it!
Not that I'm saying to literally make that law happen or advocate for it.
It's a thought experiment of how could the Democrats possibly respond to someone saying, have you considered getting an abortion to them?
Like, I feel like that's the best insult ever for a woman, like a liberal woman or a man, just to be like, have you considered aborting your children?
libby emmons
That's awful.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I was gonna say, it's so hard.
corey deangelis
You can't raise your kids.
unidentified
It's like kind of a good clapback, but it's also like, whoa, I don't like that.
libby emmons
Brutal.
tim pool
Perhaps your kid requires some kind of sterilization procedure.
libby emmons
Perhaps your kid is actually not ready.
hannah claire brimelow
Have you met our lord and savior, Margaret Sanger?
She loves sterilization.
tim pool
All right, ladies and gentlemen, here we go.
From Rolling Stone, Olivia Rodrigo, St.
Louis Concert, hands out morning after pills.
It's brutal out there in Missouri, but we are here for abortion access and hand out Plan B, Missouri Abortion Fund says.
Okay, so, legit question.
Are people really mad about Plan B?
Is that a thing?
Like, seriously, I'm asking, seriously.
hannah claire brimelow
Some people are because And I am not a Catholic.
I have to preface this and say, you know, I know Catholics.
I love Catholics.
I talk to Catholics a lot, but I might not be the answer.
But some people believe that because Plan B prevents conception, that because it's a form of birth control in that sense, it's bad.
That's my understanding of it.
You know, I think people feel differently about it.
But I think also people get upset when The 21-year-old pop singer whose teeny bopper fan base is being given Plan B as if, like, take a risk and see, you know, it's fine, you have this pill now for free.
tim pool
Wouldn't it be funny if it was, like, they were sugar pills?
And so they're trying to shake it off.
hannah claire brimelow
It's, like, off-brand Plan B. It's, like, one of the, like, other ones.
libby emmons
Is it off-brand Plan B?
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, it's, like, some other... Were they sponsoring the concert, too?
Well, so she has this thing called The Fund For You, and it's all to promote abortion access and birth control and things like that.
And so as far as I know, The Fund For You or The Fun For You?
The Fund For You, because she has a song called Good For You.
And a portion of at least the North American leg of her tour will go towards the National Network for Abortion.
I can't remember what it's called.
And which is like a network of abortion centers that are across the country.
And as far as I know, every concert in the US has a table where you can go.
I don't know if you can get Plan B at all of them, but I know they have like a pro-abortion table at all the concerts.
tim pool
Concerts actually have Narcan tables.
unidentified
Oh wow.
tim pool
You guys know that?
libby emmons
I did not know that.
tim pool
Yeah, I'm not gonna name any of the concerts, but I've been to them and they have Narcan tables, because if someone ODs on heroin, you're supposed to run to the table and get Narcan from them.
hannah claire brimelow
Look, that seems, like, reasonable to me, right?
Like, I think you should, if we have a way to prevent opioid deaths, like, good times.
But this one, because again, her fanbase is really young, it is kind of interesting that it's like, Hey guys!
Condoms, I get it.
Plan B's been passing out condoms for a long time, but it seems like another step up to be like this thing that in some states you have to go to a pharmacist to get a hold of.
I mean, I know that's not true everywhere, but you can just have it for free for fun.
That seems like not the moral I want to present.
tim pool
The first problem is obviously it's encouraging teenagers to go have sex.
And the other problem is that I suppose for people who view it, Plan B is... Contraception.
Well, it's the same thing as an abortion.
My view is that... It's the next... Isn't it like a... No, there are people who have commented saying it is the same thing.
There are some people who feel that way, but it's not.
That's what I'm saying.
If you are of that worldview, of that particular moral framework, then you are going to be upset by this.
corey deangelis
But what if people are substituting instead of saying, well, I would have used a condom or I wouldn't have had sex and then now I'm going to use this instead.
hannah claire brimelow
Well that's- and like you couldn't have like an STI, like there are other risks in addition to pregnancy to being like teenagers.
tim pool
I'm just saying, imagine if you carried around some plan B with you and then you met someone you really didn't like.
The ultimate insult ever.
Like let's say you're arguing and you were like, you are a dumb- you voted for Biden didn't you?
You know what?
Here's some plan B. Like this is the craziest thing about the whole abortion argument is that they're begging for something that would be the most insulting thing to offer them.
Giving your enemies plan B is like, you're like, please.
corey deangelis
Like saying you shouldn't reproduce?
tim pool
Yes!
Like, we don't want any more of you!
One is bad enough!
Here, take some free plan B!
It's crazy because think about the next 10, 20 years.
Like, we talk about how Millennials and Gen Z are stunted, and they're getting jobs later in life, they're having kids later in life, and this is why.
They're going to, it used to be that like, I think the average age of, what was it, like 20?
Women were having kids at 20 or something like that?
libby emmons
Yeah, and you'd get married, and you'd set up your life, you'd become a grown-up.
You would be like, oh, I'm an adult, I have responsibilities.
hannah claire brimelow
No, I need to go into debt to go to adult daycare, aka college, and hang out for a little bit and decide what I want to do.
tim pool
And then get upset when you can't get a job and can't pay the bills from it.
hannah claire brimelow
It's weird.
tim pool
Again, also, it is very strange that we live in a time where, like, people are actually tweeting at me because I said, like, never in history have single women just lived alone in these apartments like this.
And it's mostly true for men, but there are a lot of guys that were, like, rogues.
So, you know, a guy would live in the woods or form, like, a gang or something.
So it's not the same as women.
Women were pretty much, like, living with their families.
Or married into another family or something.
It's only in the 20th century that we got the rise of the single woman who would be living alone, but it's just, it's a historical abnormality.
I'm not saying it shouldn't be, I'm just saying it's fascinating that here we are, you've got these women posting these videos being like, why can't I live by myself?
And it's like...
Humans typically never did live by themselves.
Anybody, they lived in big families.
corey deangelis
And then when the guy, when the son married- Why do you think that trend has ticked up?
Do you think it's like feminist culture?
tim pool
Yeah, definitely.
corey deangelis
I don't need no man, everybody should live by themselves.
tim pool
Well, that's certainly a lot of the PR, but I also feel like there is a public sentiment that women have to have jobs.
Where it used to be they could have jobs, now they must have jobs.
So now you're getting all these videos of women being like, I'm miserable and I hate doing this.
And you don't see as many guys who say that stuff.
hannah claire brimelow
I think guys- I think guys view work differently.
unidentified
Yeah.
corey deangelis
We'd be less likely to get donations in our DMs than- That's true too.
Probably.
tim pool
Yeah, I think it was Andrew Tate who responded to that woman from earlier where she was like, I can't afford my rent.
He's like, if any man made this video, he would be mocked mercilessly by the media and by all women and be called a loser who doesn't deserve to mate.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And he's not wrong, you know?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
Well, you have that study that women who make more money than their partners have a harder time, I think it was either staying married or finding a partner.
libby emmons
It's both of those things.
It's unusual.
It's sort of divisive for the woman to be the higher earner.
Yeah, I can see that being a problem.
I mean, as a woman, I wouldn't like that either.
tim pool
Men don't like it.
This is a fact.
I see these stories all the time.
Men don't like it when their significant other makes more money than them, and it is typically true.
And feminists say this as if men are babies or whatever, and it's like, this is what men do. Men don't have babies, so like what
are they bringing to the table?
They feel like they're providing and it gives them a sense of purpose to support, provide, and you
know. If they don't have that, then they feel insecure, they don't feel valued, and they also
feel at risk of the relationship breaking. But women don't like it either. When they make more
libby emmons
Women don't like making more than men either.
tim pool
Oh yeah, how many TikToks?
libby emmons
Women want, and like all of these women who make a lot of money, they have trouble finding a man because they want a man who makes more money than they do.
And they're making, they're out there making like six figures or whatever.
And like the fella that they meet is like not doing that.
And so they can't make it work because of that.
Women want to feel, I don't care.
corey deangelis
Taken care of.
libby emmons
Yeah, women want to feel protected.
They want to feel safe.
They wanna feel loved and taken care of.
They wanna feel like if something happens to them, then their partner is gonna,
their husband is going to look out for them and make sure nothing bad happens.
You know, they wanna know that like, if they have babies and get pregnant,
that that man is gonna take care of them, gonna make sure that everything works out.
Like the way that a woman can take care of her family is because she's being taken care of by a man.
And then the woman can take care of all the things and be like the superhero and everything
because the man is a bigger superhero because he's taking care of her
so she can take care of everybody.
corey deangelis
I have a great announcement.
I'm going to be a dad, or I'm actually a dad already, of an unborn child, Angelina DeAngelis, coming in August.
First child.
That's so exciting.
hannah claire brimelow
He's kept the secret the whole time.
corey deangelis
I will need to take care of and provide, as that reminded me.
hannah claire brimelow
Feels good for you, right?
Like, that's an exciting time.
I think that's one of the worst things that we do in culture right now, which is to make parenthood and taking on responsibility and things like that seem like it's going to take away from your life, when it's not.
Like, people have been having children for centuries, they continue to travel, they continue to have interests and hobbies, and yeah, maybe you have to spend a little bit differently, but like, it is a good thing to build a family and to build a community around you.
I don't think that we should Treat it as if it's like the end of time, you know, it's
just it's it's not the apocalypse Have a have a baby have a baby
libby emmons
We also we also have gotten to this point and this goes to what you were saying about you know
What would the left say if we told them go ahead and kill your babies?
We've gotten to a point where life is so devalued that we sacrifice our children our actual
unborn children on the altar of our own desire It's a very weird thing that we do, that we say like, oh, my life is so great right now and so amazing and I'm sleeping around so much.
hannah claire brimelow
That's why I need to live alone.
libby emmons
And I'm going to these concerts all the time with Olivia Rodrigo.
It's amazing.
That's why I don't want to have a child.
And we've forgotten, too, that perpetrating the species, that is part of our human responsibility.
Don't we care about having responsibilities?
It's like, as a species, we are not even an adult at this point anymore.
We're like a child species.
tim pool
I think social media is melting the brains of the average person.
Just no more.
All of it's gone, go away.
I think so too, because when you talk- CNN only!
corey deangelis
The TikTok ban might apply to X and Facebook.
Fine!
unidentified
When you talk about the girl- I run a media company, I'm not okay with that.
tim pool
No, I'm down.
I'll just go fishing.
hannah claire brimelow
When you talked about the girl who couldn't afford her rent, one of the things that I was thinking was when she was like, I can't even make it.
How are we doing this?
And then you immediately found out that she's like in a two-bedroom apartment doing vacations.
It made me wonder if on TikTok, she's looking at people who make more money than she is, who go on vacations more regularly or have a bigger apartment.
And she's like, I can't even make it in life right now.
I don't have the things that they have.
libby emmons
These girls on my Insta stories are doing so much better than me.
corey deangelis
She's in the Maldives every other week.
tim pool
I can't even get, I can't even pre-order a Tesla Roadster.
unidentified
What the heck?
Come on, what kind of lives do I need?
tim pool
Can you believe this?
corey deangelis
I only did one vacation this month.
tim pool
The Tesla Roadster is a $50,000 down payment.
I cannot make this work.
corey deangelis
I need 16 cats.
tim pool
I need you all to become members of TimCats.com.
Otherwise, I can't make it very far.
hannah claire brimelow
Tim is struggling.
He cannot keep up.
tim pool
How could I live without a new Roadster?
hannah claire brimelow
Or like all the girls who are like, you know, I'm shopping at Air One or whatever.
Are you getting a space car?
tim pool
No, the Tesla Roadster uses SpaceX technology, and it has the capability of going from 0 to 60 so fast you could die.
corey deangelis
Oh, damn!
libby emmons
You mean like that rollercoaster, that suicide rollercoaster?
tim pool
Yeah.
So apparently Elon said something like the new Roadster can go from like 0 to 60 in like 0.99 of a second or something like that.
And then a bunch of people did the math and they were like, for your average sedentary American, it will put 3.01 G-forces on their organs and it will actually cause loss of bodily control and function.
And many people may Crap themselves from the force, and some people who are out of shape could actually die.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you have to pass a fitness test to get this car?
corey deangelis
That would be an ultimate recall.
hannah claire brimelow
You bring like a doctor's note being like, I am fit enough, my organs can handle it.
tim pool
So the Model S Plaid, if you go too fast, it goes nuts.
It goes like, wah, wah, wah, like you're speeding.
Think about your kidneys.
You gotta turn on racetrack mode to be able to actually take that thing off the charts.
But it can go 0-60 in like 1.9 seconds or something like that.
That's a choice.
They could make the car go faster, but I think the car would either flip over or crush your organs.
libby emmons
It would be bad to have a car that crushes your organs.
hannah claire brimelow
Not a responsible purchase.
tim pool
How am I supposed to live?
libby emmons
Without that.
corey deangelis
If someone has a 2.5, 0-60, you gotta get the 1.9.
libby emmons
It would be like the TikTok challenge.
Like, can you go?
tim pool
Well, if you're fit and trained, I mean, there's a lot.
There's a fighter pilots who experience way more G-forces than that.
I don't know enough about it.
corey deangelis
It's the Tide Pod Challenge.
If it goes viral enough, it was worth it.
tim pool
But yeah, they said, you know, 3.01 G-forces on your organs.
hannah claire brimelow
Only fighter pilots are allowed to buy this.
tim pool
Anybody who's been in a Tesla knows that feeling when someone hits the gas.
It slams you to the back like a Gravitron and you can feel it.
It's fun.
It actually is really practically useful because I can turn left and I can make left turns extremely easily.
So like, you know, you're sitting at an intersection and the cars won't stop and then like the left side is coming and you're like, okay, and the right side is clear.
And you're like, the left won't stop coming.
Then finally the left side starts clearing up on the road.
And you're like, okay, finally.
And then the right side starts coming again.
You're like, oh, there's no... With the Tesla, you just...
boom! Just floor it. Within a split second you are at the speed limit. So if the speed limit's like 45
and cars are coming, you just put your foot on the gas and then, and then you're at,
right in front. It's amazing. I love those things. Yeah.
Anyway, if I'm going to live, you know, I'm watching these TikTok videos, these guys, Jay
Leno, you know, how am I supposed to live without- You must get the wildest
stuff. Jay Leno.
hannah claire brimelow
No, just like on your TikTok, people are like, here's this Tesla and you're like, Oh, I don't have TikTok.
Oh, not TikTok, Instagram or whatever.
tim pool
I'll tell you what's on my Instagram right now.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm fired.
tim pool
All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna press my Oh, whoa, it's Ricky Glaser doing a blunt slide to dark slide.
libby emmons
Okay, then.
tim pool
That's cool.
Here.
Here's what I got.
I got a woman getting some kind of tattoo on her face.
libby emmons
Is this your Instagram?
tim pool
Yeah, the next one says, what's an actual cause of death so extremely rare it's hard to believe it's possible from AskReddit.
The next one is people racing on skis.
libby emmons
I have Tim doing skateboard tricks.
tim pool
Oh, really?
I got James McAvoy revealing he injured himself holding a woman upside down during an orgy.
corey deangelis
Is this just your Instagram feed?
tim pool
No, when you press discover.
hannah claire brimelow
Mine is actually, it's literally just Mormons getting engaged in the Dunkin' Donuts menu.
tim pool
I get a lot of this.
libby emmons
I like Mormons getting engaged.
Oh, I get a lot of that too.
tim pool
It's a guy making beef.
corey deangelis
Me waiting for apple cider vinegar to help me lose weight.
Is that what you get?
tim pool
So I have a ton of people making food because that's what I click on all the time.
Like basically, this dude just cut a loaf of bread into a box and he's filling it with french fries and chicken shawarma.
unidentified
I watch a lot of chef reactions to crap like that.
You know what I won't watch, though, is the... And it's the guy being like, yeah, I'd eat it, fine, I'd eat it.
hannah claire brimelow
Oh, and that girl Pookie shows up on my Instagram Explore page all the time.
Do you guys know about this?
unidentified
No.
hannah claire brimelow
Okay, well.
corey deangelis
Who's Pookie?
hannah claire brimelow
It's like, she's like a girl who lives in Georgia and she looks like she's fairly wealthy and her husband, they'll like do outfit reviews and her husband is always like, Pookie's looking fire.
I love Pookie in this hat.
I don't know, I'm just like a white girl on the internet and they're like, here's your content!
But it's very funny and I have now heard a remix of one of their, like, conversations.
Anyways.
libby emmons
I don't know who Pookie is.
Well, I'll send you videos and you're- I got something about that dog girl.
unidentified
What?
libby emmons
Did you see the dog girl?
hannah claire brimelow
Y'all's stuff is way less basic than mine.
unidentified
Basic white girl stuff.
corey deangelis
I just get my DMs from my wife sending me cat videos.
That's basically it.
hannah claire brimelow
That's an honorable use of Instagram.
corey deangelis
And daddy-daughter videos.
This is how you need to be with our daughter, basically.
libby emmons
Oh, that's sweet.
hannah claire brimelow
Did you guys want to find out the gender?
corey deangelis
We found out.
We did the early testing with the genetic stuff and had our ultrasound yesterday, which was great.
That's so fun!
hannah claire brimelow
See, more people who are becoming parents on the show.
I like when we have parents on.
libby emmons
Yeah, I think it's good.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I think it is good because I think that's one of the issues.
I was listening to, do you know Hidden Brain, the NPR thing?
libby emmons
Yeah, yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
They talked about the rise of parenting books like when they started getting published and I always thought it was interesting because they pointed out it basically came around because we used to live much more communally and people used to see, you know, you would have a lot more siblings and then also your siblings would then have children and there were children in your community so you weren't like, there wasn't this gap of knowledge being like, Bruh, there were wet nurses.
Yeah.
tim pool
Could you imagine, like, hey, my kid needs milk.
Is there a woman with milk that can, like, sustain my child?
hannah claire brimelow
A wild time!
libby emmons
I haven't thought about that because, so when you have a child and you have milk and you have it for a while and then it goes away, right?
And it's fine and you don't need it anymore.
But a wet nurse, you would have to be continuously nursing just to keep your milk going?
Like, that would be so unpleasant.
hannah claire brimelow
Sounds terrible, but if that's your job, you know, you are the wet nurse.
libby emmons
Your job is to be the human cow.
tim pool
But see, like, in the modern day and age, like, this was kind of crazy for me to learn, like, what a wet nurse actually was.
It's like, oh, it's another lady who has milk so your baby can get milk when your wife or, you know, for you, the mother, can't produce.
That's just kind of crazy to think about.
hannah claire brimelow
I have a hard enough time wrapping my head around the idea of a night nurse, which is someone you hire to get up with your baby in the middle of the night.
And like, I've had friends who do this because you need sleep and the baby gets up a lot and if your husband is working, you know what I mean?
libby emmons
Like, it's a service you pay for.
hannah claire brimelow
But to pay for a wet nurse is like, I cannot get it.
libby emmons
But now we're talking about British aristocracy.
hannah claire brimelow
We should be, always!
corey deangelis
We just got one of those new things that everybody was telling us to get where it moves the baby a little faster.
hannah claire brimelow
A robotic night nurse, if you will.
unidentified
Oh, we have that for our chickens.
tim pool
You put the eggs in the thing and then every few minutes the eggs all roll over.
unidentified
Yeah, it's the same thing, except you don't let the baby roll.
libby emmons
I don't know, I really liked getting up with my son in the night.
Big tech stealing our jobs!
I loved getting up with my son in the night.
Yeah, I mean it sounds like oh look you're cute still yeah, and you get the hormones and whatever you know And like we're still we're still he's 14, so it's rough, but we're still pretty tight, but it but is the reason why?
tim pool
This narrative of like oh, it's so miserable you need a night nurse because women have jobs and That could be yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
I've heard a mix of things like one of my friends is a stay-at-home mom and her husband works and her in-laws gifted her a night nurse for like two weeks but it was because like shortly after you know he was on home for like two weeks or whatever and then he went back to traveling a lot and so it was to give her support you know.
So she could sleep and be with the baby because if you're doing it alone, I'm sure that is exhausting and tiring.
You know, if you need a night nurse, I'm not, I have never had a child and I have not, you know, I have younger siblings, but I never was like up with them all the time in the middle of the night.
So I, I'm not going to knock anyone for trying to get sleep and to take care of their baby.
I think those are good things to do.
libby emmons
Meh.
tim pool
All right, let's talk about some news. We have this story from the post-millennial.
Trump says Facebook is a true enemy of the people over election interference,
urges restrictions on political spending. Trump's not wrong.
He said TikTok is less of a danger to the US.
than Meta, which is a true enemy of the people.
They spent $500 million against me and our great Republican Party, lock boxes and all, and should never have been allowed to do that.
TikTok didn't.
Like crooked Joe Biden, Facebook is a great threat to democracy and will only get bigger and stronger if TikTok is taken out.
Do them both and restrict the money allowed to be spent on politics and lock boxes by Meta and Facebook.
He's not wrong.
I think the issue of banning TikTok is it's fine if it's isolated to just what TikTok is.
I don't care for the argument that Facebook would get stronger.
I mean, Facebook is a problem as it is, but it's a different problem.
That being said, we absolutely should be restricting Facebook, but that's not gonna happen anytime soon.
corey deangelis
Yeah, and I don't know how they tax their revenues or if it's financially detrimental to use their funding towards political spending.
They certainly don't get a tax benefit for doing that.
But hey, why not have competing platforms donate to other candidates towards Donald Trump?
Maybe X and Elon Musk could support him in those ways.
They met, but they haven't had a... Elon Musk said that he had not Yeah, and even if we ban the political contributions, I mean, the algorithms are still going to support one candidate over the other probably on Facebook.
tim pool
I say we just ban all social media, just all of it.
Get rid of it.
Everyone's got to watch CNN from now on.
We'll get Chris Cuomo back on the air and that will just, that'll solve everything.
If everyone was just ignorant of the world.
corey deangelis
I don't know.
I like exposing what's happening in the school system too much on social media.
libby emmons
That's your thing.
tim pool
Knowledge makes people unhappy.
We should keep them ignorant.
corey deangelis
Right.
We're all happy.
Everything's great.
tim pool
Yeah.
corey deangelis
I mean, we were even exposing school districts illegally influencing elections in Texas right before the primary.
unidentified
Wow.
corey deangelis
They were using their school district taxpayer resources to lobby for or against specific candidates, which you can't do.
Attorney General Ken Paxton laid down the law on at least seven districts.
tim pool
Well, we talked to, on the Culture War podcast last week, a couple of former congressional staffers, and I didn't even realize how Congress worked.
I had no idea.
Even to this point, I had no idea.
What do you mean?
When you get elected into Congress, you have to write a check for money to the Republican or Democratic party in order to get assigned your position so you have political power.
Quite literally, Matt Gaetz gets elected and said, I want these committees.
And they said, well, maybe if you raise money for us and you'll need to raise, uh, they have each district has a bid, they call it, where depending on the wealth of the district, you are required to give a certain amount of money.
So Matt Gaetz said, if I write a check for $500,000 right now, what committees do I get?
Is it any committee you want?
He says, done.
And he wrote him a check for $500,000.
That's Congress.
I have no idea.
That's how it actually operates.
corey deangelis
Pay to play.
Is it like insurance too, though?
Whereas if you're an incumbent, they'll defend you on election day?
tim pool
If you are not giving money to the party, they'll primary against you.
corey deangelis
Yeah.
tim pool
And they'll keep you out.
And so naturally, they were very much opposed to Laura Loomer getting in.
And I knew there was money in politics, but I didn't realize... I didn't know that either, I gotta say.
You gotta pay money.
libby emmons
That is messed up.
tim pool
At least in the Republican Party.
Democrats probably just think something similar.
libby emmons
Yeah, they probably do, because Democrats are grifters as well.
tim pool
Yep.
corey deangelis
Yeah, I mean, it works like this in the Texas House as well.
We had Dade Phelan forced into a runoff, our Speaker, and he goes and pours a ton of his campaign war chest to defend a lot of the anti-school choice incumbents, and we took out a bunch of them on Super Tuesday.
But they protect their own once they're in, and they just kind of listen to what the Speaker says in a lot of the places.
tim pool
And then the other crazy thing is that, when you are in, like, people talk about how it's easier for incumbents to win.
corey deangelis
You wanna know why?
95% of the time, they win.
tim pool
Do you know why?
corey deangelis
They have more money, they have name recognition.
tim pool
Because the government gives them money they can use to campaign.
So, in Congress, they get a budget, they can spend whatever they want, and the rule is, they can't say, vote for me and I will do this, they can say, I just did this thing, here's me, I'm your congressman.
corey deangelis
It's implied.
tim pool
Exactly.
corey deangelis
Vote for me, yeah.
That should not be, I didn't know that.
tim pool
Yeah, they were telling us on Culture War the story of this guy who used like basically his entire campaign office budget on mailers, sending out saying like, here's what I've done, here's what I'm doing, here's who I am, thumbs up, and he had to fire all of his staff because he ran out of money.
libby emmons
Wow.
tim pool
Yup.
That's crazy.
The whole thing.
hannah claire brimelow
He was like, make sure you get those mailers out the door before you go.
Pack up your desk and take them to the post office.
corey deangelis
Yeah, they get around a lot of these little laws, like in Texas with the school district stuff.
They get around the laws, like even if they're not saying vote for or against this particular measure or person, they'll say, you're not going to get a raise next to your teachers.
I know you're just trying to scrape by and make ends meet, but You know, if we don't raise spending with a billion-dollar bond that the voters have to pass, well, you're not going to get your raise.
So that's basically implied, like, you better go, or we're going to have to cut some staff.
You might lose your job if you don't go vote for this.
So it's implied what they're doing.
Yep.
tim pool
There's no Congress.
I think that's the takeaway I got from these former staffers who are breaking down how it operates.
I'm like, If you think there's a system where people get elected and go to D.C.
and then advocate for bills, it's absolutely not true.
The reality is it is a dirty game where people do favors and cut backroom deals.
They need to raise $300,000 based on their district, so they go to lobbyists.
And I think they were even saying, too, where it's like, Okay, you're from what district?
Oh, here's a corporation that'll write the check for you.
And then they're able to muster up funds that can deliver those funds to the NRCC or other NGOs that get that money in somehow.
corey deangelis
And it makes it almost impossible to hold politicians accountable for infringing on our rights and doing things that they didn't promise on the campaign trail.
Yeah, that's messed up.
Because they win about 95% of the time, you're not going to get the churn you need to actually be able to hold them accountable at the ballot box.
It's rough and maybe making things like using your Congress's funds illegal to campaign for yourself would be a step in the right direction.
tim pool
It is illegal to campaign.
corey deangelis
But if you do it in this, yeah, so clamping down on the definition of campaigning.
tim pool
I mean, it's just like if something is happening, you want your constituents to know, well, that's fair, right?
You know, like there will be a vote coming up.
Thank you.
And that's the general idea, but it can be used.
There's nothing you can do about it.
You know, we try to come up with all these ways to cut loopholes, but people will always figure out a way to get through them.
I suppose we could just say, you know, when you see it, knock it off, right?
We get what you're doing.
But I think the reality is people think Congress is dysfunctional.
I think I just learned last week there's not even a Congress.
It's just fake.
libby emmons
That's really scary, in fact.
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
I didn't know you had to give money to the party.
Right.
That's like when board members on not-for-profits have to give money to, like, the thing they're supporting.
But, like, if you're on the board of the Met, it's because you want to give a bunch of money to the Met.
tim pool
Oh, man.
Let me tell you how nonprofits work.
hannah claire brimelow
Or you get on the board because you gave a bunch of money.
unidentified
Right.
libby emmons
Here's what you do.
tim pool
You wanna run a non-profit?
Okay, the first thing you can't do is make a lot of money.
If you make a lot of money, people are gonna say, I don't need to give to you, you make a lot of money.
But then the problem is, what happens if you become successful?
Oof, now you're in a conundrum.
corey deangelis
You increase your expenses.
tim pool
Well, no, it's easier than that.
You create a 501c3 and a 501c4.
We'll call one, like, uh, the Truth in Media Foundation, and then Truth in Media Fund.
And the fund will be a 501c4 and the foundation will be a 501c3.
And then what you do is, when you go around raising money, you say, we're with Truth in Media.
Xi is the last word.
Show what Truth in Media Foundation does every day in fighting for truth and justice, and then ask them to make a donation to the fund.
The fund never discloses how much money it makes.
The fund pays you a salary of a million dollars a year.
The fund then donates $737,000 per year to the foundation.
The foundation then publishes all of its earnings.
This year we raised this much money.
Our executive got paid $35,000, and you go, you see?
I only got paid $35,000.
From the C3 arm.
From the C3 arm.
And the 501c4 is not publicly disclosed and is allowed to lobby.
So you use the 501c3 as your public-facing do-gooder arm, then you use the 501c4 to actually take all the donations.
unidentified
Right.
corey deangelis
But there's a complication here.
I'm on a C3 and a C4.
We have a PAC as well.
But it's harder to raise money for political purposes than it is with C3 because the donors can write off their C3 contributions.
So it's actually in the best interest of the nonprofit to pay more out through the C3 than the C4.
tim pool
Unless your revenue is getting too high.
And it's starting to compromise your ability to fundraise.
So there's an upper limit.
Certainly, a lot of nonprofits will say, just give to the C3.
Sometimes you'll catch this.
If you ever have someone asking you for money for a cause, and they're explaining a cause that is absolutely protected, like, if someone says, we want to, you know, provide sporting equipment to schools, Okay, that should be tax-deductible, right?
I donate to you and you're helping kids?
That's tax-deductible.
And then they go, but, you know, because of the work we do, it's not tax-deductible, but it's still important.
That means they're redirecting your funds to a 501c4.
Yeah, okay.
And something is up.
But the general idea is, if you can put as much funds as possible into the C4, you can pay your executives six-figure, seven-figure salaries.
And then when people come to your meetings or whatever, and they're like, you are doing this, but I only get paid $50,000 a year, why should I even bother?
I'm sacrificing, and it's true, you're not lying.
corey deangelis
That's how they do it.
I don't know, but people can look up my salaries on the 990 forms, and we have C3, C4, and PAC.
So I guess they'd have to look up both entities, and then add them together, it's more difficult.
tim pool
And typically, depending on how you obfuscate this, You can call one like the Political Acquisition and Research Foundation, and no one's ever heard of it, and that's the company that takes in all the donations without people realizing it.
Certainly anybody who's digging can find through 990s your salary, but then you can say, that's a totally different company.
I, as the executive of... So there have been some very large non-profits, international NGOs.
I recommend this.
Anybody who's curious about the NGOs that are funding all this illegal immigration, go to...
What's that website, man?
Do you know which website that's got all the 999s?
corey deangelis
AFCVF.com.
You can contribute to AFC Victory Fund.
hannah claire brimelow
No, this isn't about you right now!
tim pool
So, you want to look up the 990 tax form, and there's a website that has GuideStar.
I think it's GuideStar.
libby emmons
GuideStar, that's the one.
tim pool
Yeah, you'll find the 990 forms.
corey deangelis
Nonprofit Explorer, right?
Is that one?
Or ProPublica?
I don't know.
tim pool
GuideStar's the one.
I think GuideStar's the one that I've always used.
And you can look up the salaries of anyone.
So, find an NGO and you can see how much money they're making, you can see how much money they brought in, and you will probably be very surprised.
But the thing is, nobody looks.
So, we know a lot of these NGOs, especially when it comes to illegal immigration, are getting fat paychecks.
libby emmons
Well, and some of them also distinctly hide their assets and where their money comes from because you can also be a not-for-profit and have an umbrella organization over you and then you never see any of that not-for-profit's work.
You never see their money.
I was looking because I was discovering that when I was looking for the who funds the Students for Justice Palestine and it was definitely very hard to get to the bottom of that.
corey deangelis
Did you find any teachers unions?
libby emmons
I did not actually get to the bottom of it.
hannah claire brimelow
That's interesting.
corey deangelis
It's always hard when they just create them too, right?
If they haven't been around for a couple of years, you're not going to see basically anything.
hannah claire brimelow
Because you don't, I mean, nonprofits don't have to file.
corey deangelis
There's lags.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
libby emmons
Exactly.
hannah claire brimelow
Now I want you to spend the rest of every day finding this stuff.
I'm so fascinated.
libby emmons
I always want to go digging around and finding this stuff, but I have this job and I have to, like, do my job and I can't just, like, go dig around.
hannah claire brimelow
You can't just take a sabbatical from editing and posting and running Post Millennial?
libby emmons
No, I can't for some reason.
hannah claire brimelow
I think this is crazy.
Your rights are being trampled, right?
This is a hate crime.
libby emmons
This is a hate crime.
Yeah, but I love doing that kind of research.
corey deangelis
We have a lot of union front groups, and it does take a lot of researching in Texas.
They set up a PAC called Defend Rural Texas, and it's actually headquartered in Austin, which is not a rural area, and it's funded by the union, and then they're funding Republicans that way instead of publicly endorsing them, they're privately funding them through a PAC.
Yeah, it's crazy.
libby emmons
Well, the teachers unions are just full out for Biden.
unidentified
Well, 99% of their contributions went to Democrats.
tim pool
Let's jump to the story from scnr.com.
Rand Paul clashes with Fox News host over bill that could ban TikTok in the US.
Quote, you cannot take people's property without due process.
Well, okay.
The bill, which the Senate is now considering, would require TikTok's China-based parent company, ByteDance, to divest itself from the platform or be removed from U.S.-based hosting and app stores.
Depending on Fox & Friends, shortly after the House passed the bill, the Kentucky senator was asked by Kilmeade if countries like Russia, China, North Korea, and Iran should be able to own influential social media platforms.
Quote, the company's owned 60% by international investors, 20% by two Chinese software engineers who developed it, the entrepreneurs who began the business and 20% by their employees, 7,000 of whom are American.
It's a very diverse ownership.
It's not owned by the Chinese government.
In fact, on TikTok's board, there are no Chinese nationals that control that.
Who owns that company?
ByteDance.
ByteDance is owned by China, Kilmeade said.
No, it's not.
See, that's a lie.
So this is international corporation, and like every other international corporation, they deserve their day in court.
You can't just take their property.
Who owns that company? ByteDance. ByteDance is owned by China, Kilmeade said.
No, it's not. See, that's a lie. Paul shot back.
It's getting interesting.
Rand Paul's wrong.
ByteDance is a Chinese company based in Beijing, incorporated in the Cayman Islands, founded by Sheng Yiming, Liang Rubo, and a team of others in 2012.
Also, the Singaporean CEO has led investments into tons of Chinese companies.
I don't understand what's happening.
Someone needs to explain this to me, why it is that the anti-TikTok divestment bill people are pushing misinformation.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, do you think it has anything to do with Jeffrey Yass?
I was just reading about him.
He's a top political donor in the U.S.
and he's a libertarian.
He has like a 7% stake in TikTok, which I find interesting.
corey deangelis
Yeah, but I don't think he's controlling all the... No, I mean, he has said it's about... He's supporting Trump or something?
tim pool
Is that what's going on?
hannah claire brimelow
Trump, he's hosted like different, Ride the News, if you're on Instagram, has a whole carousel up on this right now.
It's interesting.
You know, he's talked to Trump about different things.
And he, Yass has come out and said, you know, similar to what all of the sort of libertarian leaning congressmen who are against this, which is like, we can't give more power to the president who can do these things.
There's concern about privacy, you know, what are we seeing?
So it's following a libertarian standpoint.
corey deangelis
Yeah, I mean, I'm usually with Rand Paul, Elon Musk, Donald Trump, Thomas Massey, and they're all against it.
And then you got Joe Biden for it.
I mean, if you look on whose side you want to be on, I think.
tim pool
I don't care about whose side I want to be on.
I want to understand why Rand Paul, Thomas Massey have put out information that's wrong.
libby emmons
Do they not know, do you think?
I have no idea.
Or do you think they're intentionally misrepresenting the facts?
tim pool
I have no idea.
Thomas Massey posted snippets from the bill, out of context, that duped even me.
libby emmons
Huh.
tim pool
And when he posted the snippet, I said this would ban Telegram and VPNs, because the snippet would.
But it's got a bunch of subparagraphs, which restrict what the bill can actually do, to which the response from people who want this bill to be stopped say, but the government will abuse it.
And I'm like, if your argument is the government will do whatever they want regardless of this bill, this bill doesn't matter.
If your argument is this bill is bad, explain to me why it's bad, but Rand Paul's outright wrong here.
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
He's on Fox News saying ByteDance is not Chinese.
unidentified
I can't find any source saying that.
What's he talking about?
corey deangelis
He went on Tucker Carlson too and basically said the same thing.
And I liked his quote on Tucker Carlson, at least I haven't seen the Fox News snippet, but he said something along the lines of, we don't want to beat the Chinese Communist Party by emulating the Chinese Communist Party.
And so I think his whole thing is just about free speech and letting people, you know, if you want to get on and use this social media platform, then that should be your choice as opposed to... China will not allow us to operate companies in their country.
tim pool
I don't understand, simply from trade reciprocity, why we allow China to operate to buy farmland, to buy land in general in this country.
corey deangelis
Yeah, so why are all the people who would not block the purchasing of farmland in support of this bill to block TikTok?
It's weird.
No, I'm pretty sure... They're not going to pass banning Chinese ownership of farmland in the U.S.
That's not going to happen.
I mean, unless there's movement of a lot of co-sponsors in Congress right now on that.
I haven't seen it.
hannah claire brimelow
I haven't seen it yet.
I mean, there are congressmen who do put out bills like that.
It happens on the federal and on the state level.
corey deangelis
But this passed overwhelmingly.
I mean, it was, what, 100?
tim pool
I'm pretty sure Democrats have also pushed the no more Chinese land ownership stuff too.
Washington Post reported lawmakers in 33 states.
Maybe they're mostly Republican.
corey deangelis
Mostly red states.
tim pool
Mostly red states for sure.
corey deangelis
Don't need any Democrat votes.
tim pool
Yeah.
But I do think it's fair to say the only reason the TikTok bill has actually moved forward is because of Israel.
That's patently obvious.
libby emmons
So you think that it's just because Biden is tired, the Democrats are tired of having the Palestine stuff?
So much, yeah, pro-Gaza, pro-Palestinian stuff on TikTok, which is leading to more protests and... It's a fact.
corey deangelis
And that'll hurt him in the election.
tim pool
Take a look at this data from Axios from October of 2023.
October 16th to the 23rd, there were 123,000 posts with hashtag StandWithPalestine, only 11 million views.
There were 8,000 posts StandWithIsrael with 12 million views.
In the next week, it jumped.
With only 87,000 posts, StandWithPalestine now had 285 million views.
And with 9,000 posts, StandWithIsrael had 64 million.
285 million views and with 9000 posts, stand with Israel had 64 million.
Two things, either TikTok and some some analysts have argued that this is evidence that TikTok
put their thumb on the scale, creating an algorithm that would then promote.
The reason being with 123000 posts and only 11 million views.
Why the massive disproportionate jump in viewership?
It would have to be that the TikTok algorithm was actually starting to suggest this content
that was stand with Palestine.
The other issue may be that.
that.
Third-party governments began operations, or activists in those countries, to heavily influence Stand With Palestine, resulting in an inadvertent algorithmic push to support Palestine.
Regardless of whether TikTok did it on purpose or not, it is a fact.
TikTok overwhelmingly pushes more pro-Palestinian content, and the U.S.
government can't control that, and it's generating youth sentiment in favor of Palestine and against Israel.
That undermines U.S.
foreign policy, U.S.
support of Israel, and they love Israel, so immediately you found your bipartisan support for banning or controlling TikTok.
corey deangelis
That's where we're at.
I mean, it could also be because Biden wants the power to be able to shut down social media he doesn't like.
tim pool
But he can't.
The bill doesn't do that.
Thomas Massey and Rand Paul are putting out fake news.
I can't tell you why.
They're wrong.
And I get these messages where they're like, yeah, I'm going to believe you over Thomas Massey.
I don't care if you believe me or not.
I'm going to tell you.
We read the bill.
We showed the bill on the show.
The bill is extremely narrow.
It's short.
It's like one page?
corey deangelis
Yeah, it's like... So it doesn't expand presidential powers to determine what's permissible?
It's like 13 pages.
So in order for a president... What are they talking about then?
I'm not deep in it either.
tim pool
So, it can only, the bill only has the ability to restrict a website, desktop app, phone app, or augmented reality immersive software that originates, that is, not originates, but is controlled by the governments of, in some way, Russia, Iran, North Korea, or China.
If there's an individual working for them, that qualifies.
If the president wants to ban anything other than TikTok, it has to be of the technologies I listed, website, app, etc., that allows users to create profiles, post content, and to create a profile to view content, both.
corey deangelis
If Vine makes a comeback.
tim pool
If it was made by an Iranian.
It has to also present a clear national security threat that has to be articulated by the President to Congress 30 days before any action can be taken, which then refers, it defaults to the judicial review section, which allows anyone who's accused judicial review in the jurisdiction of D.C.
to challenge this, and then they have the opportunity to divest from whatever the source claim is.
Would not ban it.
The President, under this bill, would, it would be, look, I'll put it this way.
If Biden wants to ban X, he can do it right now.
How does he do it?
He goes to the CIA and says, draft me a national security letter.
They meet privately with Elon Musk and they slide the national security letter over to him and they say, we own your platform.
corey deangelis
So he already has this power basically.
tim pool
They've done it before.
They do it today.
They do it all the time.
This bill is specifically publicly facing announcement as to why Tiktok... Look, they could shut Tiktok down if they wanted to.
But people are going to then say, whoa, whoa, what's happening?
Why is this going on?
And considering Tiktok is foreign-owned, China-owned, China will screech to the high heavens, blast up notifications.
So in order to make this change, you have to do it slowly.
In order to get TikTok under the control of U.S.
government so that the algorithms don't undermine its foreign policy, namely Israel, they're passing this bill.
They will not be able to ban X or rumble with this.
The best argument you could make for Biden being able to do it is to claim Donald Trump is secretly working for Russia.
The only problem with that is after four years and a $35 million investigation, the determination was that Trump never actually worked for Russia and they accomplished nothing by doing it.
I don't think Biden would ever actually be able to pull anything like that off.
It seems insane.
corey deangelis
So the Senate's going to pass it.
Biden's going to sign it.
It's going to go to SCOTUS.
What do you think happens there?
Because Rand Paul on his Tucker interview was like, well, is this going to pass and it's going to go to the Supreme Court?
And we won.
This thing kind of thing was shut down before we have precedent for this.
So I don't know what the previous case was about, but.
tim pool
I honestly don't know.
I think there's a strong possibility SCOTUS strikes it down and says... It's not a free speech issue because it's divestment, it's not a ban.
speech issue because it's divestment, it's not a ban.
And I suppose the argument is I see a path towards SCOTUS actually saying the bill's
fine because it's not an American company.
They could say quite plainly, a company that operates outside of the United States with interest in the United States is subject to the jurisdiction therein, and if the United States wants to have access to this information and it's being denied, they absolutely can engage in enforcement action against this to stop.
More importantly, It's also entirely possible, SCOTUS just plainly says, the United States has enemies.
Those enemies seek to undermine and destroy these United States, and it is within the rights of Congress to pass legislation that is then approved by the President to seek remedy in the event our country is being undermined by a foreign adversary.
In the event that a country created a weapon that was damaging to this country, but sold it to the American people, it would not change the fact they're still an enemy selling a product.
Imagine if China started selling designer drugs And they've done this, actually.
And Congress passed a bill saying you can no longer sell Wabba-Babba in the streets because it's causing harm.
And then the Chinese company that owned it said, you can't ban my product!
Our product is safe and good!
And they'll say, we've determined your product is harmful, and it's a drug now under the Controlled Substances Act, and it's Schedule 1.
And then they go to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court says, well, you know, you can't take someone's property from- that makes no sense.
If this is regulated as if it were a drug, I see no reason why Supreme Court would say they can't do this.
corey deangelis
So the most important thing is, you know, I cannot understand... I wonder if even if Biden can do this already today, if this gives him political cover for doing something like this in the future.
tim pool
Only for TikTok.
Under what pretext would Joe Biden be able to say that Chris Pavlovsky of Rumble works for Russia, or Iran, China, or North Korea?
corey deangelis
Well, if there's some other platform that comes up.
Maybe it's a more conservative platform.
tim pool
According to the bill, the only countries that can be listed are codified in the bill, and they're codified in Congress.
Through a separate bill on adversary nations.
Congress would have to amend or create a new bill declaring new adversaries.
corey deangelis
So what if it was like pro-American content?
This probably would not happen, but let's just say it was pro-American content, it was conservative content, and Biden says, oh no, we saw how he tried to politicize the death of that child earlier.
Oh, this is anti-trans or whatever, this is a national security issue.
Who knows what they would say?
tim pool
I personally don't care.
If China, so what China started doing, and I think- If it's so great, we can make it here.
One of the things that I believe China has started doing is giving conservatives followers on the platform to generate attachment so they advocate for protecting TikTok.
corey deangelis
Because they've got a lot of followers that don't want to get rid of it.
tim pool
Yeah, I don't believe that TikTok is real.
I'm not saying I know for sure.
In my opinion, I believe TikTok probably has a lot of bots and fabricates followers and view counts.
Facebook has done it in the past.
They create arbitrary and nebulous means of generating view counts and they got sued.
I believe they got sued over, I could be wrong.
I'm trying to be careful.
But if Tick Tock was primarily producing pro Trump right wing content, my opinion would not be any different.
And I will give you the simplest bit of proof.
Thomas Massey and Rand Paul are wrong.
And I'm on Dan Crenshaw and Joe Biden side on this one, because I read the bill to 2024 is getting crazy.
I don't care who's team red, blue, or otherwise.
I care what's true and what makes sense.
And if your argument is we should allow China to manipulate our young people as Yuri Bezmenov described, make that argument fine.
corey deangelis
But this isn't a ban just for young people.
unidentified
What?
corey deangelis
This isn't a ban just for young people, right?
It's for everybody.
tim pool
The principal users of TikTok are young people.
corey deangelis
It's mostly young people.
tim pool
Chinese Communist Party has control over what they see and hear.
Michael Tracy put out this obtuse post where he's like, where's the socialist propaganda?
And it was a default homepage for him.
And I'm like, this is great.
It's plainly in.
When you look at percentages at a macro level and zoom out, and you can see that two to one, the content being shared on the platform is leftist ideological pushes.
It's begun to change a little bit, but they are the most censorious of the craziest things.
We got suspended for saying the stats show that women who work have the highest rates of depression among the female demographic.
That was a ban.
libby emmons
That was a ban?
tim pool
We got banned for that.
libby emmons
Was it true?
tim pool
It's a fact.
libby emmons
That's crazy.
tim pool
Because TikTok is pushing a leftist narrative.
corey deangelis
But could it be because of the demand of the users being a younger population is more likely to skew left?
tim pool
And if that's the case, unfortunately, we can't FOIA request a Chinese company.
So anything that is a mass media is a weapon.
Communications is a weapon.
Communications is one of the most powerful inventions in modern warfare.
Social media communications is the most powerful weapon ever invented.
More powerful than nuclear weapons.
libby emmons
And the printing press.
tim pool
You could subjugate a nation without firing a single bullet by using social media, by using radio, by using television and mass broadcast.
I do not believe the CCP should even have 1% say in what these apps are doing in this country.
I don't care about Israel.
I don't care about Palestine.
Israel is the only reason Democrats got on board with this.
And my attitude is still, whatever.
My concern is the CCP, Chinese communists, doing what Yuri Bezmenov warned us about.
And I've seen that video way too many times to be like, you know, I'm totally fine with literally the Chinese Communist Party building a mass media manipulation platform to operate in our country.
And it's clearly infecting the minds of our youth.
But because this is about Israel, there's a lot of people on the right who are very pro-Palestine, who are just like, no, we should defend TikTok because it's the only thing that pushes back against them because it's Chinese owned.
And I'm like, I don't care about American foreign entanglements.
They're bad.
We shouldn't be doing it.
But I'll wrap it up by saying this.
Rand Paul is wrong.
I don't get why he's saying these things.
It is a fact that ByteDance is Chinese-owned.
I can't find a single source saying otherwise.
libby emmons
No, I mean, that's been true a long time.
tim pool
Right.
And Thomas Massey, when he posted these snippets, excluded the context.
unidentified
Did he?
corey deangelis
Is his argument that it's not Chinese Communist Party-owned, but that it's Chinese people-owned?
tim pool
No, he said it's not Chinese.
It's a lie.
That's what he said.
libby emmons
But there's no difference between the Chinese Communist Party and the Chinese government.
It's the same.
I mean, obviously, it's the same thing.
corey deangelis
Well he was saying, I think in his interview he was saying that it was owned by investors who are Chinese but not the government.
tim pool
Brian Kilmeade says, who owns ByteDance?
The Chinese government.
And Rand Paul said, you just told a lie.
You can't say something on TV that's a lie by a company.
That is an out and out lie and it's provably false, Paul asserted.
Well I googled it and literally every source I found says it's Chinese owned.
libby emmons
And once you have a company that operates in China, there's always a backdoor to the CCP, that's just how it's set up.
tim pool
It's not that it's a backdoor, it's that it is a public, known-about obligation.
Your company must have a CCP rep within it.
libby emmons
Right, and there's a lot of kickbacks to the government across the board.
corey deangelis
And the other argument that I heard was Well, Facebook and other social media platforms are already selling your data to the Chinese, or they can to the Chinese government.
tim pool
The issue for me is not about data.
The data thing's a problem.
I don't really care that much.
What I care about is there are very obvious, prominent, far-left, psychotic individuals that are being promoted by TikTok.
That's a bad thing.
And if Instagram and Facebook are doing it, at least we can FOIA them.
And what we've discovered is that when Twitter was operated by Jack Dorsey and Vijay Agade, we got to file claim lawsuits against them.
corey deangelis
I want to see the psychos, though.
I want to see those psychos that are promoted on TikTok so that we could expose them.
tim pool
But then you get 14 and 15 year olds who are told to drink beer.
And you can argue, now I know who it is, as the kids go out and start drinking.
The point is, if Facebook and Instagram are gonna do it, that's a bad thing.
What can we do about that?
Well, as American companies, we filed FOIA requests.
Journalists got leaked information.
We exposed a lot of that, and it caused problems for them.
China, we can't do that.
We do not have access to ByteDance's internal records.
We don't have their communications, and we can't file FOIAs against them.
We can certainly file stuff pertaining to what they're doing in the United States, but they can hide data in a foreign country we have no access to because they're an adversary.
corey deangelis
That's a good point.
tim pool
There you go.
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Clint Torres says, Howdy people!
Tim, I saw PBD's response to you and it went pretty much as expected.
I agree with it in a lot of ways and can appreciate what he's doing, but I agree with you wholeheartedly.
Was it a separate response from that tweet?
Anybody watch PBD?
I'm wondering, do you mean that like he went on his show and talked about it, or that he just tweeted it?
Because he tweeted something saying, I trust capitalism, which to me makes literally no sense.
libby emmons
That doesn't make any sense, yeah.
tim pool
He says, Chris Cuomo is not the right person to do this with.
His brother and him are evil narcissists that never in a million years would admit the harm they did to folks.
Chris Cuomo is a guy who, he would have been a Nazi guard.
Chris Cuomo unquestionably goes on TV and he says, lock everybody down, force them to wear masks, force medicate them, and the people who are violent in the streets are good.
That was what Chris Cuomo did.
And then when his brother Andrew killed people, he was like, now I'm gonna run cover for him and we're gonna make jokes about Q-tips.
If he was ordered to mercilessly beat people to death, he would do it.
No question.
He's not the guy for this.
libby emmons
Yeah, it does seem like a real misstep, you know, considering how cruel Cuomo was to everyone else.
corey deangelis
You know, power-hungry and... And the grandparents in the nursing homes.
tim pool
Yep.
Shane H. Wilder says, Pornhub just got pulled out of Texas.
Just pulled out of Texas.
No pun intended.
Let's go.
This is a win.
corey deangelis
Yep.
tim pool
I ain't gonna shed one single tear about it.
They're mad that Texas passed age verification laws.
corey deangelis
It's such a weird state!
unidentified
Like, tell me you're creepy without telling me you're creepy, you know?
tim pool
Why are you trying to stop kids from watching our stuff?
corey deangelis
I mean, yeah, a lot of this stuff you can just pass legislation to make the left look even more ridiculous than they want to.
I mean, you saw DeSantis doing this in Florida with the sexually appropriate content in schools and banning it for, you know, K through third grade, I think they started with.
And then you had the left freaking out about that.
tim pool
Jacob Paradis says, did someone say it was pie day?
Celebrate today by ordering a blueberry pie candle from Narbar's Candles on Public Square.
We have three left.
Parallel Economy for the win.
Public Square just put out revenue information and they are slaying it!
Glad to see they are doing so well.
corey deangelis
They do the debates, right?
tim pool
Public Square?
corey deangelis
Public Square is out.
hannah claire brimelow
They're sponsoring Tucker Carlson's network, right?
tim pool
They're the parallel economy platform for buying products from companies that support American values.
hannah claire brimelow
They're cool.
tim pool
Yeah, they sponsor Tucker Carlson.
libby emmons
There's actually a diaper and baby brand called Every Life and they're working against abortion and stuff.
unidentified
That's cool.
hannah claire brimelow
And the CEO founded it after he and his wife were like, oh, we built this platform and diapers aren't available here.
Okay, we'll do it.
tim pool
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, Tim Pool says, happy birthday, Raymond.
Also, free Palestine from Deez Nuts.
Only the coolest of the cool kids are born in March.
Everyone says so.
corey deangelis
My birthday's in March too.
tim pool
When's your birthday?
corey deangelis
March 24th.
tim pool
Right on.
It's a good day.
hannah claire brimelow
Happy birthday, Raymond.
He's a cool guy.
tim pool
Yeah, March is the best month.
March.
Chris Nosky says, happy birthday to the one and only Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
There you go.
AmaSong says, GamerGate 3.1415926535897932384626.
Yep.
Well there you go.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm assuming Raymond is using the Saturday Discord anniversary celebration as his own personal birthday party, but maybe he's too ethical of a man for that.
tim pool
Saddle effing Tramp says, my best horse, Kansas Artillery, passed away today at 23 years old.
He and I worked cattle and ranches all over the South and West Texas.
He was a great horse.
He was my friend until we meet again.
Sad to hear it.
Sad to hear it.
You know, but best of, you know, my condolences.
hannah claire brimelow
Sad cowboy vibes for real.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Man.
You know, I was thinking about it.
Animals The ones that we've domesticated, they're so lucky.
Cats, dogs, horses, even cows.
So I was out by Freedomistan, and we were driving to get some coffee, and there is this area where there's a bridge that it's like you go down, you hook around, and there's a bridge with a creek.
And as we're driving through, we saw like six cows, and they were like, some with their babies, and they were walking through the creek and just drinking water and walking around, and I was like, I know they're food, and they're going to be killed for their beef, but they live the most comfortable life while they do, walking around a fenced off area protected from predators, eating whenever they want, doing whatever they want, whenever they want, drinking water, and in exchange, I get to eat them.
They still are lucky.
corey deangelis
Still pretty good.
tim pool
Yeah, you know, the most successful species on this planet, of course, is humans, and the second most successful species will be cows.
Because we breed them intentionally, they're never going extinct.
hannah claire brimelow
And they never question their purpose.
Like, humans are out here having existential crisis all the time.
tim pool
That's right!
hannah claire brimelow
What should I do with my life?
Cow's fine.
tim pool
You know, but I was thinking about Mr. Bogues, and I'm like, man, pets rarely have to go through us dying.
Some do, you know.
If, like, an old man or woman has a dog, and then they pass, the dog is wasted.
corey deangelis
And then the cat will eat the owner, right?
tim pool
Yeah, cats will eat the- yep.
But that's because they're smart.
corey deangelis
Why'd I get a cat?
It's gonna eat me.
tim pool
Yeah, that's the, uh, the story is, um, I think it was my dad who told me this, a firefighter, he says, you know, you know what a dog does when they respond to a fire and the family has a dog, what do they find?
The door will be scratched bloody from the dog desperately trying to break in to save the family, you know, because the dog can't do anything.
And do you know what a cat does?
He says, well, we don't know, we never found them.
corey deangelis
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
Yeah.
corey deangelis
Did you see the trending story R.I.P.
Hammer?
There was a UFC fighter and there's a viral video on Twitter right now.
tim pool
Oh, he saved him.
corey deangelis
He saved him and he's crying because he didn't get the dog.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
corey deangelis
Or cat or dog, I don't know.
tim pool
He saved his parents.
hannah claire brimelow
I think dog, he saved his parents.
tim pool
Yeah, the other thing is, do you know what happens when an old person has a dog and then will pass?
They come and they'll find the dog dead of starvation or dehydration sitting next to the owner.
And when the owner has a cat, they come to find the cat having eaten the corpse to stay alive.
hannah claire brimelow
They're a much more brutal species.
But there was this video of this dog.
I think it was in Japan.
The dog used to walk the man to the station.
Okay, you know what I'm talking about.
And then he died and then the dog just waits there like, are you kidding me?
tim pool
for 10 years. How am I supposed to live under these conditions? It's actually better than that.
So the Japanese professor, they would walk together to the train and then Hachiko would
come back at the end of the day and when the train came back in, they would meet together and then
walk home together. But one day while the professor was at university, he had a stroke or something
to that effect and died. So he never came back. Hachiko waited for him and he didn't come back.
And so after a little while, eventually people knew and they tried to remove Hachiko and adopt him out.
Hachiko would break free and run back to the train station.
And eventually they just stopped trying to, you know, put Hachiko somewhere and everyone just knew who he was.
And it didn't really mean that much to them at the time.
They were like, oh, there's Hachiko.
He's sitting there and it's like sad story.
But after he died, they built a statue for him.
And I believe March 9th.
I think it's March 9th.
It's Hachiko Day.
Let me, uh, double-check.
It's my birthday as well.
unidentified
Oh, that's very sweet.
hannah claire brimelow
March is a wild month.
Seems very busy right now.
tim pool
Uh, March 8th.
Sorry.
March 8th is Hachiko, uh, Day.
And it's, uh, they celebrate loyalty.
And, uh, the crazy thing is... So there's a statue of Hachiko in Japan at the station.
And, uh, apparently...
Someone had recorded audio at the time.
It was like 1920s or something.
They recorded audio at the train station that happened to have captured the bark of Hachiko and I guess the record was like fractured or something and someone found it and they put it back together and then they announced they're gonna be playing it on the radio and like millions of people tuned in to hear the dog bark.
unidentified
That's wild.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm sorry, this dog had a huge impact on his community.
Like, if this is not a reason to be involved with your community, I don't know how to tell you it's a good idea otherwise.
corey deangelis
If the dog can do this for a community and you haven't, what are you doing with your life?
hannah claire brimelow
Just by being there and being a part of the community.
People were obsessed with this dog.
Also, I'm sorry, but it waited for its owner for years.
tim pool
A decade.
hannah claire brimelow
Don't you, like, what?
tim pool
There's a bunch of other stories to wild you can you can look up a bunch of these different stories There's like a terrier in England or whatever that sat on the grave of his owner until he died stuff like that All right, Bryce.
Monty says it's my birthday.
unidentified
Happy birthday birthday What do we got?
tim pool
Michael A says, Tim, I think Patrick bet David is trying to replace Adam.
You can tell by the way he treats him sometimes.
He brings nothing to their cast.
That's why I think he's trying to replace him with Cuomo.
No worse than Adam.
hannah claire brimelow
So much tea right now.
unidentified
Look at those Cuomo-leaving news nation.
tim pool
I don't know, PBD's just a very smart, good dude.
You know, I just think this is a bad move.
corey deangelis
Yeah, where is he going?
libby emmons
Is Cuomo leaving NewsNation?
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
He's just adding the talent rotation, I guess, for Valuetainment.
And it's just, he's not the guy for this.
He doesn't really have a following.
Look at his social media engagement.
There's nothing there.
I don't know what... I gotta tell you, do you think, like Anderson Cooper announces he's hosting a show, tickets are available online, do you think anybody shows up?
How many people are gonna be like, oh, an Anderson Cooper, I wanna see that.
Carl Benjamin did an event, he invited me to, and he packs the room.
And he's a commentator.
This was a while ago, this was like eight years ago or something.
But we do live events, we sell them out.
I'm like, we've sold out I think like up to, well, we sold I think like 800 and something tickets for our Miami event, it was like a thousand seater.
I don't see Anderson Cooper selling more than a couple.
Like, people are gonna be like, I don't care.
libby emmons
Like, what, what are you going to do?
corey deangelis
Did you guys do a show live in Miami?
tim pool
Yeah, with Patrick, Matt, David.
We do live events periodically.
And the last one we did, we're gonna be doing our monthly events in Martinsburg.
We had 50 seats and we sold it out.
Like, we sold out all the tickets.
libby emmons
That was a fun event.
tim pool
Yeah, well, hopefully we'll do those once a month.
Well, we will do them periodically, consistently.
The issue with doing it once a month is that means we have to be planning events
at the same time as other events.
So it requires like, we have to be planning our April event
while we're planning our March event.
And then once the March event is about to start, we're now picking up the May event and, you know.
But yeah, Cuomo's not the guy.
Not the guy.
If you're into these stories about animals too, I also recommend the story of Gellert's Grave.
Do you guys know that one?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
I think I really want to make a short film of this.
Maybe Kent can do this.
I'll keep it really simple.
Prince Waylon, I think you'd pronounce it.
It's Welsh.
I don't know.
He was going out and doing his business.
His son was at home with his faithful hound, Gellert.
When he came back from chores or whatever he was doing outside, collecting wood, I don't know, he found that his door was busted open and his home had been ransacked.
And he ran in, panicked, because, you know, his son was left here.
He sees blood splattered on the ground, and the crib where his son was is flipped over.
He then sees Gellert, his faithful hound, walk up with blood dripping from his mouth, angry that he left Gellert with his son, and Gellert killed his son.
He draws his sword and thrusts it into the side of Gellert, killing his dog.
His dog lets out a dying whelp, which wakes up his son, begins crying.
Waylon then runs over and flips the crib over to see his son safe, protected, and a dead wolf that was trying to kill him.
And this is a real legend, and they say, uh, after he realized what he had done in killing his loyal hound who had saved the life of his son, he never smiled again.
libby emmons
Yeah, how would you smile again?
You saved your loyal hound who protected your son and killed the wolf.
tim pool
I got a great idea for a short film.
hannah claire brimelow
Also, why would you assume about your loyal hound that he would do anything wrong?
libby emmons
I wouldn't assume that first either.
tim pool
Well, some say the story's not true.
It was a tale told to children so they could understand why you shouldn't jump to conclusions because you could end up hurting someone.
libby emmons
And also beware of wolves.
tim pool
There's a it's a place.
There's a place in the it's somewhere in the UK.
I don't know exactly where called Gellert's grave was a tree and you can go up to it and it says here lies Gellert.
But apparently they did like LiDAR and there's like no dog there.
So it's probably not true or something.
It's a great story.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't believe that I like the story better even though it's tragic.
libby emmons
It's sad.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, the thing is, animals have incredible protective instincts.
One of my favorite viral videos is of that cat.
Like, there was a toddler.
This was like a news story in the modern era, not in, you know, whenever.
And there was a, you know, I think maybe a pit bull is not an anti-pit bull message, but like, there was a dog approaching a toddler, seemed aggressive, and this cat comes flying out of nowhere and like attacks the dog!
libby emmons
Oh yeah, I've seen that, yeah.
unidentified
That's cool.
hannah claire brimelow
I think it's amazing.
tim pool
Did you see the one where the cat saves the baby from falling off the porch or something?
unidentified
Yes!
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, I give dogs a lot of credit, but cats are protective too.
Also, cats are incredibly tolerant of young children.
Not all of them, but you'll see these videos of toddlers asleep holding their cats.
tim pool
Alright, let's read some more Super Chats.
hannah claire brimelow
Pro animals.
I'm running out of words.
tim pool
Federale Actual says, Tim is a bad dude for calling people cannibals in the cannibal army when all reports state that it's just to terrorize their population.
Wait, isn't terrorism worse?
Yeah, NBC News ragging on me and Matt Walsh and Miles Chong for criticizing people in the cannibal army for being cannibals.
hannah claire brimelow
Also, I stand by Libby's point, which is like, it doesn't matter why you're doing it, you're definitely a cannibal, whether it's symbolic, or for army, or for- That's what I'm saying.
libby emmons
Or for religious purposes.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, cannibals for sure.
corey deangelis
I think someone commented that you can't FOIA a private company, and I think that clarification might be pretty important.
tim pool
Whoa, this is crazy.
LeafHagen says, AI expert on Rogan's show said that large language model AI doesn't have the ability to say, I don't know yet.
The seemingly incoherent or made-up answers to these questions are called hallucinations.
unidentified
Wow.
libby emmons
That's wacky.
hannah claire brimelow
I hate that we opened the AI box.
I'm gonna level up.
libby emmons
You gotta watch the- Same.
tim pool
We watched last night the figure one AI video where they have the robot using chat GPT and voice AI and it has a fake stutter.
libby emmons
Oh, that's creepy.
tim pool
Yup.
Everybody thought the robot was going to be like, hello Libby, would you like me to wash the dishes?
Nope.
They add a fake stutter.
So no, no, no.
It goes, so, so if I'll give, I'll, I'll give you the general example.
In the video we asked it, can you give me something to eat?
And he goes, uh, yeah, sure.
hannah claire brimelow
No thank you, you're not a human, get out of here.
tim pool
The AI could go, yes, if you said, AI, would you do the dishes, we expect the AI to go, yes, I will wash the dishes.
Instead it goes, uh, sure thing, I could do that.
libby emmons
You know, that happens when you call in and it's like an automated phone system.
It'll be like, uh, I couldn't understand your question.
tim pool
I love those things.
libby emmons
I hate them so much they make me violent.
tim pool
I'm being sarcastic.
I was in Vegas and I was calling my bank and it was like, hi, thanks for calling.
Is there something I can help you with?
And I was like, yeah, I'm having an issue with my debit card.
And I was like, wait, I didn't quite get that.
Can you say that again?
And then I was like, yeah, I'm having an issue with my debit card.
And he goes, ah, wait, one more time.
I didn't get that.
Could you say that again?
And I was like, you're a robot.
corey deangelis
Connect me to an agent!
Oh, I didn't get that.
Connect me to an agent!
I couldn't get that.
libby emmons
I'm just like operator, person, I don't know.
Person!
tim pool
There's two words.
Go away!
Two words.
I guess this is the life hack for you guys.
It's gonna change your world.
If you're ever talking to a robot, there's only two words you need to say to automatically get it to switch you to a representative.
And you know what those two words are?
hannah claire brimelow
Self-destruct.
tim pool
No.
corey deangelis
Go away.
tim pool
No.
unidentified
Leave me... F you.
libby emmons
Really?
That gives you a person?
tim pool
It'll immediately go, I'm sorry, let me transfer you over.
Because they're programmed to, when they recognize swearing, realize it's a problem.
corey deangelis
Give it to the manager.
tim pool
Now, however, I have encountered some robots that will respond with, I'm sorry we can't help you, goodbye.
corey deangelis
F you too.
libby emmons
Those are awful ones.
tim pool
Billy MFP says, Tim, your call for culture got me to start writing children's books on Amazon.
Zombie baby and two cats.
And Trump the greatest 45th.
Thanks for the inspiration.
Hey, right on.
Congratulations.
All right, we'll try and grab a couple more super chats.
What do we have here?
Thanks Joe Biden.
That's crazy.
Seems like roommates are a bad plan.
long ago was 900 a month.
Now I'm living back home after falling out with my roommate.
Same apartment is now 1800 a month and I make just over 2k a month was a two
bedroom too. Wow.
corey deangelis
Thanks Joe Biden.
tim pool
That's crazy.
hannah claire brimelow
Rents wild.
libby emmons
Seems like roommates are a bad plan.
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
I haven't had a roommate since college.
tim pool
Bait Juggin says, hey Tim, did you see the clip of Don Jr.
asking Tulsi Gabbard about how she would feel if asked to be VP?
I like where this is heading, what say you?
Totally for it.
corey deangelis
Tulsi Gabbard, I don't know if she's the right- Get the woman vote, get the independent vote.
tim pool
Maybe.
She's a military personnel moderate post-liberal, so I don't know if she is the best person.
I know that I support her as VP and would be very excited to see that, as she was my candidate in 2020.
corey deangelis
And she wrecked Harris in the debates.
tim pool
In the Democratic primary, I wanted Tulsi to win.
And if Tulsi had won, I would have voted Democrat.
And then when it was clear where it was going, I was like, I'm voting for Trump.
Yeah.
That was 2019 when Tulsi was running.
And I liked Andrew Yang too, but Yang turned out to be a big disappointment.
It's unfortunate.
hannah claire brimelow
You were Yang Gang?
unidentified
How fun. Yeah. Oh, yeah, dude disappointing. Well, like if you go to his website
tim pool
Yang had the most comprehensive breakdown of policy plans and everything. It was it was smart. Nobody like unions for
MMA fighters I mean your union protection. I know he has the forward
party yeah, and I've donated to them too because I like the
general idea of a moderating force among Democrats
But I think the Democrats are too far gone at this point.
They need total party reformation because they've either got warmonger corporatists or crackpot far leftists.
And then the Republicans have MAGA, which is just like moderates.
And it's funny because the left can call them far right all the time, but the MAGA people aren't even arguing for exactly what they want.
And it's actually frustrating a bit.
The MAGA people should be coming out right now saying, ban all immigration, period, until we can figure out what's going on.
libby emmons
Totally agree.
I'm right there with you.
tim pool
Instead they're saying, let's secure our border, and Trump goes, we can bring them in legally.
And I'm like, if the right actually wanted to go for the big ask and have an anti-position... To start the negotiations further.
libby emmons
They do have to do that.
tim pool
There's no counter to the left's position.
The left's position is open borders.
The right's position is, well, only a little bit.
hannah claire brimelow
So, immigration moratorium, for sure.
tim pool
That should be the right-wing position.
We say no immigration, and we'll start from there.
Instead, they say, let's just secure the border and let them come in legally.
And I'm like, well, that's where I'm at.
But I can recognize that Republicans have no counter position to Democrats.
hannah claire brimelow
No, no illegal immigration moratorium on legal immigration.
We'll see you when we figure some stuff out.
I think that's a good stance.
libby emmons
Give us a second to recognize we're a sovereign nation.
tim pool
Alehad says, hi Tim, earlier you ragged on Don Lemon because he has no talent, while you are only successful because of your ravishing good looks.
Seems ironic.
You got me there!
The only reason anyone watches this show is because I look so beautiful.
hannah claire brimelow
Tim is, uh, aware of his pretty privilege.
tim pool
That's right.
hannah claire brimelow
He doesn't need you guys to remind him, he's working on it, he's seeking forgiveness from the corrections committees.
tim pool
Well, I realized this when I go out, and the only people who ever recognize me are young women, and they have no idea what my political opinions are.
corey deangelis
There you go.
tim pool
They just stare at me longingly.
Quite literally, the people who stop me are all, like, 33-year-old men.
And they're like, hey, we're big fans of the show!
And I'm like, right on, Unifismo.
And then it'll be, like, a woman.
Whenever women recognize me, they're like, my husband loves your show.
I was like, cool!
libby emmons
That is cool.
tim pool
Yeah.
There have been times where it's been women being like, I love your show, I try to get my husband to watch.
And I'm like, okay, alright.
You know, 20% of the audience is female.
Overwhelmingly male.
All right, we'll grab one more.
One more.
David Glass says, if you do not get Serpentza and Laowai86 on your show, then you are doing something wrong.
They are literal experts on CCP and social media.
We have been trying to get them on.
Perhaps we should get them on the Culture War podcast.
That seems appropriate.
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corey deangelis
Yeah, you can follow me on Twitter now, X at DeAngelisCorey.
It's just my last name and then my first name.
And then if you want to contribute towards the American Federation for Children, win elections to get more school choice across America, you can go to AFCVF, AFCVictoryFund.com.
hannah claire brimelow
Awesome.
It's been fun having you here.
Congrats on your impending child.
That's exciting.
I'm Hannah Clare Brimelow.
I'm a writer for scnr.com.
That's Scanner News.
I'm really grateful to be a part of that team.
I was happy to see Chris Carr was here last night.
He's a great executive editor.
If you want to follow me personally, I'm on Instagram at hannahclare.b and I'm on Twitter at hcbrimelow.
And Libby's here and I think she's back tomorrow.
libby emmons
Yeah, I'm going to be back tomorrow, guys.
That'll be fun.
I'm Libby Emmons.
I'm the editor-in-chief with The Postmillennial and HumanEvents.com, and you can check out everything we're doing there, and you can follow me on Twitter at Libby Emmons.
Thanks.
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And I'm Serge.com, and I will see you in the after show, if you remember.
Cheers.
tim pool
We'll see you all over at TimCast.com in about one minute.
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