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Timcast IRL - Harvard Lost $1B After WOKE BACKFIRE, COVERS UP For Woke President w/Daniel Turner
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tim pool
Harvard has reportedly lost over $1 billion due to the statement made by their president,
That's actually her name.
I know a lot of people are making fun of her over it, but that's her name.
And Harvard is now refusing to remove her despite the fact that she has made these, as many would say, shockingly offensive statements.
But that's not the real scandal.
The real scandal is that Harvard covered up a massive plagiarism scandal, where this individual, Dr. Gay, actually plagiarized numerous times, and we have this here.
They are willing to lose over a billion dollars to defend this.
Now, many people are saying this Harvard president is clearly a diversity hire.
And I think we are getting an excellent window into wokeness right here, and that's why this story is so important.
An individual who does not have the merits, who lied, cheated, and stole, reportedly, in order to get into positions of power, and is being actively defended by the institution, despite the fact they are clearly not fit to serve in this role, considering all the news that's come out, the loss of money, and the clear lack of capabilities.
But this is the point.
The capture of institutions is not about whether someone can actually do the job.
It's about whether their politics align with their new cult-like religion.
So we'll talk about that.
Plus, we'll talk about that new Obama movie, where they have this line, they say, don't trust white people, and everyone's up in arms about it.
And apparently, it's a fairly woke film, and the main character is like some racist white lady.
So we'll definitely get into that.
And then there's a big debate happening online, after a comic was produced by one of our favorite artists, gprime85, Critical of gay men having children through surrogacy.
This is resulting in a lot of drama among a lot of individuals and a big debate, which I think we'll definitely get into.
And then, of course, we have a very interesting story about millennial women being the worst off since World War II compared to any other generation.
So we'll get into that.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and everything else is Daniel Turner!
daniel turner
Awesome to be here!
Welcome back!
Yes!
Great to be here, Daniel Turner, Power of the Future, your favorite fossil fuel advocate in the world, and happy to be with you fine folks.
tim pool
Yeah, so Power of the Future, you're basically calling out the lies from the climate change agenda.
daniel turner
Yes, from the Green Agenda, and we're the only ones not at COP28 right now.
It seems like all the cool people, they're in week three of the big climate fest in Dubai.
tim pool
Is that where they all fly in the private jets?
daniel turner
Exactly.
You know, those of you who are listening who are like, we had a two-day retreat in Tampa for my company.
It's like, yeah, try three weeks in Dubai.
You got to join the climate cult and you get to party like a rock star.
Can you imagine how many hookers and cocaine is in Dubai?
tim pool
Well, the funny thing is, it's all illegal too, but you know, if you're in the club.
daniel turner
Yeah, of course it is.
tim pool
Right on.
Well, thanks for hanging out.
We got Luke Rudkowski.
luke rudkowski
Hey guys, my name is Luke Rudkowski here of WeAreChange.org.
All the institutions are collapsing and it's absolutely beautiful to see.
Today, I am wearing my Irish Lives Matter t-shirt, a somewhat controversial statement that might get you investigated if you actually wear this in Ireland.
That's why I made it a t-shirt that you could get on the ... best political shirts.com there's actually two ... versions of the shirt I'm wearing the members only shirt ... that I have to put tape over and has another special message ... there that you could find out if you are a member of Luke ... unfiltered.com and I'm going to reveal the ... message later but that's one of the perks of many perks of ... directly supporting me on Luke unfiltered.com Phil.
phil labonte
I'm doing well.
My name is Phil Abonte.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.
Very failed musician, anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.
Serge, how you doing, homie?
unidentified
Doing well.
Yourself?
phil labonte
Doing well.
I just found out that we have seven gold records now.
tim pool
You have seven?
phil labonte
You got another one?
tim pool
The failures keep stacking up.
phil labonte
Yeah, it just officially went over today, so the full-length Overcome record went gold, so that's seven gold records.
daniel turner
That's awesome, man.
phil labonte
Pretty awesome for a dude that yells at a stick for a living.
tim pool
That's right.
And who is a failure?
phil labonte
Yeah, failure.
tim pool
That's amazing.
If you're a failure, I don't know what the rest of us are.
phil labonte
Listen, I fail, I fail big.
I fail big.
That's how I do it.
tim pool
Serge is here.
phil labonte
Oh.
tim pool
Alright, well, let's jump into the first story.
We have this from Fox Business.
The context is important.
Harvard president's handling of anti-semitism has cost a school more than one billion, according to Bill Ackman.
Billionaire investor and influential Harvard alum Bill Ackman continued his push for his alma mater to terminate President Claudine Gay over the weekend, claiming her handling of anti-semitism on campus since the October 7th terror attack by Hamas on Israel has cost the university more than a billion dollars in donations.
In a letter to Harvard's governing board of directors posted on the social media platform X on Sunday, Ackman argued Gay, quote, ...has done more damage to the reputation of the institution than any other individual in its nearly 500 year history, going through a litany of criticisms over her leadership, which she says has contributed to major donor withdrawals, significant gifts, withdrawing significant gifts that are adding up.
Here's what's important.
Let's break all this down because the articles themselves don't give you this context.
USA Today says, Harvard President Claudine Gay to remain university leaders of firm support.
This is somebody who right now, and we'll get into all the details, has been exposed as a plagiarist, who should not be in this position, who does not have the merit, the skill, the capabilities.
Many people are saying she's clearly a diversity hire.
This is an individual that has failed in regards to the hearing before Congress, has resulted in a loss of over a billion dollars.
By any metric, this person should be fired.
They will not fire her.
And why?
Because the only actual metric Harvard cares about, are you woke?
Are you a member of our religion?
And if you are, nothing else matters.
While the rest of us look to Harvard and think it's some higher education institution, one of the best, it's not.
It's a church.
A church of the woke.
And so the actual job description for this woman is to be a woke proselytizer.
So when she's faced with mounting criticism, the board of directors and all these other people say, OK, what are they criticizing her about?
Oh, she's costing us money.
She's engaged in a plagiarism scandal.
They actually covered up a major scandal.
We'll get into that in a bit.
And then they go, OK, but that's not a job description.
Is she advancing diversity, equity and inclusion?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
She's fine.
daniel turner
Yeah.
And it's remarkable to see this happening.
Harvard still has 50 billion dollars in their endowment.
So I don't think they're hurting any way at all.
But it's absolutely incredible to watch this play out in real time and wonder what is the purpose of this university, right?
There was another study that came out today that Yale, the majority of the students at Yale all got A's last semester.
You say, well, if everyone gets A's, I mean, these universities don't really seem to have any sort of academic purpose.
I like that you're liking them to a church.
That's the best way to put it.
tim pool
You pay money.
daniel turner
And like a church, like if your parents are members, you become a member.
luke rudkowski
I would say they're more like a hedge fund with indoctrination center, or even just a factory that produces the woke mind virus.
But it's interesting to see them kind of eat their own, eat themselves and attack themselves on this very divisive issue that is Israel, when for many years now they were being very discriminatory, they were being very racist, they were violating the civil rights of individuals because of the way that they were born.
And everyone was okay with that.
Now that we have the conflict in Israel, people are like, okay, now we gotta really have to deal with this issue, which I find very peculiar at this specific time.
daniel turner
I find it peculiar that- I'll take it.
No, go ahead.
No, if you replaced Israel or anti-Semite with any other minority group, and this was the question facing the university president, it would be a different story.
Can you have called for genocide against trans members on Harvard campus?
No.
If she did not stand up, if she didn't lie down in solidarity with a die-in on the quad.
If she didn't forcefully condemn this before, she would have been fired within seconds.
luke rudkowski
But you can for white people that are technically a minority on the world's population
and then that's that's totally okay, that's totally fine.
tim pool
But then Bill Ackman actually calls them out for this too.
There are a lot of people that are like, oh these wealthy billionaires didn't say
anything when these universities were discriminating against white people and
But now that it's the Jews, they're coming out.
And no, these billionaires actually are coming on saying like, we didn't realize.
And you know what?
I'll take it.
I'll take it.
Look, not everybody cares about what you care about.
And there's a guy who's dumping tons of money to university, not paying attention.
Then it affects something he cares about, Israel.
I'm not going to get mad at that.
I'm going to say, welcome to the fight.
Thank you for finally paying attention and calling this out.
This is what made you, this is what impacted you?
Okay, well, take a look at what everyone else is complaining about.
Oh, we agree.
Awesome.
Let's win.
phil labonte
Yeah, that was, to your point, Tim, I was listening last night, you guys talk about Bud Light and That's another example.
When you have people that are looking, that are, that have, have noticed that there is a problem that you have been making noise about, right?
You don't, you don't attack them and say, Oh, you know, now, you know, and push them away.
You welcome them into the fold.
So that way you have more people on your side, because the whole point of the culture war is not to Get rid of the people that disagree.
And this was something that Jordan Peterson made this point about conservatives, the way that the left had been treating conservatives.
What are you going to do with all the Donald Trump voters if you beat Donald Trump?
They're still Americans.
And that's something that we have here in the US.
Most of the division, in my opinion, has been driven by the ideological left pumping out ideologically motivated people.
And they have lied to your average Democrat, your average left-leaning Liberal person.
So they're still right-leaning because liberals are kind of right-leaning.
The left is actually a totally different philosophy.
So your average left-leaning liberal has been lied to and has been tricked into believing that woke is the continuation of the civil rights movement, which it is not.
It is a totally different tradition.
luke rudkowski
It's the exact opposite of that transition, as it promotes discrimination against individuals for the way that they were born.
phil labonte
100%, absolutely, yes.
And they're waking up to that, and we need to welcome them back into the America-loving Liberal society that we all are looking to get back to, we talk about all the time.
We talk about we want to get rid of the woke, we want to get rid of all this bad ideology, and now is a great opportunity to bring people back into the American mindset where America is not always bad and that it's not always just dump on the liberal mindset.
tim pool
Dave Portnoy announced he will not hire anybody from Harvard, MIT, or UPenn until these people are fired.
He then said, I think he's pulled back on UPenn because they did have the board member and the president resign, but he specifically called her out and was like, I'm not going to hire anybody.
Your degree is worthless.
Anybody who currently works for me?
He was asked.
Did you have people applying?
He's like, well, I have people who work here now, but they're grandfathered in.
Anybody else?
I will not hire you because of that degree.
luke rudkowski
James Lindsay was making a very similar argument saying only then when people stop hiring these people is when we could have a big cultural difference here because that degree won't matter anymore.
That prestige won't mean anything anymore because they actually just shot themselves in the foot.
Now, there's a lot of degrees of hypocrisy, especially when it comes to saying, Yeah, you can hate on this group, you can't hate on this group.
Oh, now we're in trouble for hating on this group!
But still, I want to go back a little bit here.
There's a lot of other individuals like Cassandra McDonald making the argument here, hey, we should also be careful because we still want to protect freedom of speech.
What do you guys make of the argument here saying, hey, whatever these policies are, I don't care.
Freedom of speech still should be protected here.
Is this freedom of speech and should it be protected?
tim pool
Dave Portnoy was asked About their stance.
And he said, no, you should not be allowed to call for the genocide of a group of people, that's where you're getting into harm and violence, etc, etc.
I disagree with him.
I agree with his position that these people are hypocrites, they're liars, they're cheaters, they're thieves, and you should not hire people who are coming from these... I'm avoiding all of that.
These are corrupt institutions.
I suppose it depends on how long ago you were there, or whatever.
But no, I actually...
I agree with what each and every one of these individuals said to a certain degree.
They said the Constitution, the right of the individuals to have their opinion.
If it's getting to the point where you're harassing an individual, that breaks the rules.
I completely agree with that.
What I don't agree with is that these people are lying and spinning in our faces.
They scream, no pronouns.
You have to use our pronouns.
They scream, no fat phobia.
They will ban you from campus.
They will shut your speech down.
And then the moment it comes to a call for genocide of the Jews, they all of a sudden say, oh, the Constitution.
And I'm like, you are right, the Constitution.
Now, screw yourself.
I'm not defending you.
daniel turner
When are you going to make a fatphobia shirt?
Because fatphobic lives matter, too.
Fat lives matter, too.
I don't know what the... I have a different point of view.
luke rudkowski
You don't pay enough attention to it.
I have the exact opposite perspective.
daniel turner
I'm joking.
luke rudkowski
We might get in trouble here on YouTube if I express it.
daniel turner
It gets complicated because...
It gets complicated because the First Amendment clearly says Congress shall make no law, right?
Harvard is a private institution. It has its own laws. And that's why the Congresswoman,
Elise Stefanik, asked a very good question. She didn't say it is a violation of free speech.
She said, is it a violation of your code of ethics?
And as a private institution, it can make its own laws.
And Harvard is a private institution saying calling for violence violates our code of ethics.
Well, when you say Antifada, from the river to the sea, you're calling for violence.
So that's why it was really like, connect the dots.
Congresswoman Stefanik set her up perfectly to give a very good answer that was clear.
All she did was unravel this cluster disaster of wokeness.
tim pool
This is all awesome.
It was brilliant. All of this, the story, everything, this is why it's the lead. Ladies and gentlemen,
when Harvard this morning, when the news broke that they said unequivocally, we will not fire
this woman, I was like, thank you. That's the message we want to share with everybody. They
lie. They are hateful. They are not.
They are racist.
They are plagiarists.
Your kids going to these schools will not be better off.
They will be manipulated, indoctrinated.
And when proof was there that this person should not have this job, they said, Screw off.
daniel turner
Remember when the NAACP sent out an announcement saying that no African Americans should go to Florida, right?
They should just boycott the whole state of Florida?
phil labonte
Someone else, just an LGBT group, just did that the other day.
I saw it on Twitter.
luke rudkowski
They're raising money to get people out who are gay or trans out of Florida.
There's a literal GoFundMe fundraiser.
daniel turner
Will the Anti-Defamation League, will Abe Foxman, will one of these Jewish groups start an actual boycott of Harvard to say, we call on all Jews to boycott Harvard?
Because clearly it is a danger.
I mean, that was the NAACP's argument for Florida.
You are endangering yourself if you go to this state.
Well, clearly, if you're Jewish, you're endangering yourself if you go to Harvard.
tim pool
I gotta be honest, I'm not big on wanting to hire college graduates as it is.
So I don't care if it's Harvard... I didn't go to college.
phil labonte
Yeah, I don't care if it's Harvard or... If you go to the sciences, you know, if you hire a college graduate that went to one of the hard sciences or that studied something real, but if you're just hiring someone that's got... They still teach them woke trash, even in the sciences.
Yeah, they have to.
I understand that, but that's something that actually has to be addressed by culture, though.
Because you get people that go and they study them, they'll major in something, then they'll minor in some kind of woke thing, and so they're laying a groundwork or at least a tertiary knowledge of the ins and outs of the woke ideology, and that's something that has to be changed by the nightly comedy shows, the late night shows, not reinforcing that stuff will do a lot.
luke rudkowski
A lot of the woke stuff has a lot to do with the revisioning of capitalism.
It also goes all the way back to David Rockefeller pushing a whole bunch of huge money into higher institutions of learning that he was able to influence that, of course, undermines the very kind of capitalism that put him in the position of power that he was in that, of course, he was manipulating and abusing for his own personal benefit.
So this has roots going back many, many years ago.
And now we're seeing the kind of formation of it and it kind of just falling on its face right now with this Harvard kind of controversy as now we are finally being exposed to the true kind of hatred and nature of this socialistic leftist brainwashing campaign that now finally is being called out.
phil labonte
There's one thing I want to, you mentioned James, James Lindsay a little while ago.
luke rudkowski
We just had him on the show.
phil labonte
I'm a huge fan and I've mentioned him a lot and I'm going to mention him again because right now the best thing about them allowing the president to stay at Harvard is it really shines a light on the fact that we are living in the logic of Herbert Mark Hughes repressive tolerance.
The argument made in that piece is That it's okay to do whatever you want if you're on the left and the right must be suppressed at even the level of thinking right-wing thoughts.
And to the left, at least on college campuses now, everyone that's not left of them is the right and must be censored and has to be shut down.
So it's good to see, like I'm with Tim, I think this is good that they're standing behind her, it's good that she's not stepping down, it's good that Harvard is doing this, so that way it shines a light on it.
And so that way the American people can see, alright, we do have a real problem in the United States.
luke rudkowski
Now let's focus on MIT that also has intelligence agency connections, and let's expose that whole larger problem.
tim pool
Let me pull this story from the New York Post.
This is big news.
It's breaking.
Just a couple hours ago, Harvard covered up a secret plagiarism probe into President Claudine Gay during antisemitism storm.
Threatened the post.
So this is ongoing.
daniel turner
Yeah.
tim pool
While this whole scandal, like before this stuff's going on, before, at least to find a question, sir, apparently she was being investigated for plagiarism.
We have this huge thread.
From Aaron Siberian who says, Chris Ruffo's examples are just the tip of the iceberg in four articles published between 93 and 2017, including her dissertation!
Gay paraphrased or quoted almost 20 authors without proper attribution, in some cases lifting entire paragraphs verbatim.
He's got the evidence right here.
daniel turner
Her dissertation began, it was the best of times, it was the worst of times.
I mean, look, look, look.
tim pool
This is a massive scandal where we are learning that the president of Harvard plagiarized her way into, through her dissertation, For over 20 years, they know this, they knew this, they covered it up, she then makes shockingly offensive statements, and they refuse to fire her.
New York Post reports.
daniel turner
It's great to be a leftist.
tim pool
Yeah, that's right, you can do nothing, you can do no wrong.
Hunter Biden, look at that.
Harvard University covered up a high-level investigation into whether its controversial president was a plagiarist and used an expensive law firm to threaten The Post over our own probe.
The college announced Tuesday morning that it investigated Claudine Gay over whether some of her academic work was plagiarized and had cleared her of breaching the college's standards for research misconduct.
I will say it again.
The only qualification for the job is that you are a member of the cult.
And then everything else is irrelevant.
She's a good cult member.
She serves the cult.
Should we fire her?
Of course not.
She's doing her job.
daniel turner
Yeah.
All that matters is pushing the ideology.
All that matters is pushing leftists.
And that's what I was trying to talk about with the NAACP calling for the boycott of Of the best state in America.
All these institutions, all they do is push leftist ideas, and when they come into clash with reality, if reality is not their leftist agenda, then reality gets pushed aside.
luke rudkowski
But even if they fire her, they're just going to replace her with someone just as bad.
The same kind of cult member that's going to be giving out that woke Kool-Aid.
The same kind of individual that's going to be along the same lines so I don't understand why they won't fire her and just replace her with a worse person and then kind of appease the mob that's trying to do this.
tim pool
Because she's good at what she does as a priest of wokeness.
daniel turner
The sad thing is that as we're having this conversation there is still a lovely patriotic quote-unquote patriotic no I won't even quote-unquote patriotic American family that is sitting there with their 17 year old daughter and they are plotting to get her into Harvard.
tim pool
They're waiting for that letter, being like, oh, fingers crossed.
daniel turner
And they're doing all the essays, and they hear about this, but they're like,
but we have to get our daughter Preston Prescott, bookcase, whatever her name is,
we have to get her into Harvard or Yale or Princeton or wherever.
tim pool
So this is it right now.
daniel turner
That has to stop.
tim pool
Everyone needs to refuse to work with people who have degrees from Harvard,
MIT, and UPenn until they back down and the institutions are recaptured and de-wokified.
I don't even think, you know, a Portnoy was like, until they fired these individuals, I'm like, you've got to root out the corruption.
You've got to grab the weed and pull it out by the roots.
And so my attitude is, you want to apply to a job here, just don't put it on your resume.
daniel turner
Yeah.
And it has to get to the point that Anyone over a certain age.
Maybe Harvard 20 years ago was different.
Who knows?
Maybe it was exactly the same.
But at a certain age now, if you meet someone under 30 who is very proud and they brag that they went to Harvard, their response has to be just pure laughter.
It's like when your friend's like, I'm a huge Browns fan and you're like...
You're a Browns fan?
No offense to Browns fans, of course, as a Giants fan.
But it has to get that gut reaction of just laughter, like, oh, you went to Harvard?
Oh my god, please give me a break.
tim pool
What did you learn?
How to point out the different races in the room?
I'm looking for a guy who knows how to, I don't know, design a building, not how to criticize people based on their race.
Next candidate, get out of my face.
daniel turner
Yeah, and I love the way that Dave Portnoy is doing that, and others are saying that.
That's the best way to solve these problems, is when the schools become unmarketable because of the product they create.
And that is our own fault.
Culturally, as a nation, we have elevated these schools too well.
I mean, he did go to MIT.
tim pool
When all this stuff started, you had these Wall Street investors vowing to not hire any of these people.
Instantly, the students who signed this document praising Hamas backtracked and apologized.
And they're like, oh geez, oh no.
And it's like, no, I'll take their apology.
Thank you.
Now the institution, like don't stand behind the stuff.
Except that if you go down this path, you lose.
But you know what the issue was?
There was a, who was it?
Some guy said, don't hold it against these students.
They didn't even know what they signed.
I'm like, oh, now I'm really going to hold it against them.
You sign something without reading it?
Wow, you are really dumb.
I'm not going to hire you.
daniel turner
The plagiarism thing is just further evidence of how corrupt these organizations are.
But our own president plagiarized.
It's his thesis.
He had a dropout of the presidential election in 1980 or 84 because of it.
unidentified
He took JFK's speeches and now we're paying him.
luke rudkowski
Literally said them as if they were his and this is back in the back in the day where of course you could have fact-checked everything right away immediately but news organizations literally took speeches of former presidents and then put it by Biden saying the same exact thing.
That's how much of a phony.
That's how much of a fake he is and that's how the entire institution is set up.
It's propped up all on a bed of lies.
And that's why they're so afraid of the truth coming out.
That's why they're so afraid of independent media.
And this is why I think this moment is so captivating right now, because it wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for individuals being able to organize and talk to each other on social media.
And this is now where their institutions that they controlled before are totally being called out or totally being liquidated or totally imploding.
I love it.
It's beautiful.
I love seeing all of it happen unfold right in front of me.
And let's go!
MIT, we need more controversy there immediately!
Lots of very high intelligence figures coming from that institution as well that do some really, really shady stuff, especially when it comes to pushing a lot of psyops and cultural warfare on the American people.
daniel turner
And a lot of it being appropriated right now in Congress as they're talking about the reauthorization of There's more here, folks!
luke rudkowski
The surveillance courts and spying on American citizens.
daniel turner
Happening right now as in real time.
luke rudkowski
MIT is essentially the playground of the intel agencies.
And they're able to do a lot of really crazy stuff.
And then this is not the only controversy that we have with these prestigious institutions.
There's more here, folks.
There's Epstein, who had an office at Harvard, who literally was able to have office hours
and have a cozy relationship with all the young students, most of them, some of them prepubescent students,
At Harvard?
At Harvard!
tim pool
You don't have pre-pubescent students at Harvard, dude.
luke rudkowski
I don't know.
There's a lot of children that are also introduced that are like scholars and super smart as well.
tim pool
Maybe like daycares or something.
luke rudkowski
Hey, that man, he's around 18 year olds.
That should be questionable, especially with Harvard giving him essentially his own office.
Why did Jeffrey Epstein have his own office at Harvard?
That should be the big issue.
That should be the big controversy here.
Not that she plagiarized everything.
Let's get into the deep roots of how all these horrible institutions are doing some really awful things on another level that we don't even know about yet.
tim pool
You think Epstein was woke?
unidentified
I think.
luke rudkowski
That's a good question.
daniel turner
No, I think he was beyond woke.
I think he was just evil incarnate.
I don't even think he... woke has an agenda and an ideology that it's trying to promote.
He is just the devil.
tim pool
But I'm sure he was the kind of guy who was like, yeah, sure, whatever.
daniel turner
He was a leftist.
Yeah.
But he wasn't trying to push an agenda.
He was just the devil.
phil labonte
I think that the one thing that we really are kind of glossing over is the fact that
these institutions, this isn't new and these institutions have been pushing people out
like every year after year after year after year.
There are college graduates going into society that believe this stuff, right?
If they minor in this stuff, they go into society and they believe this stuff and they
affect society.
We have a crisis of competency coming in the United States and possibly in the broader
West.
And there are things that like if we lose the knowledge of how to do them, then we're
going to have serious problems.
Like, there's a whole complex world out there that needs to be maintained.
And if we're dumping out people that can't think, that aren't coming out of the highest, you know, supposedly the highest at universities that we have, if they can't think and they're
not actually able to do the jobs that they're put into, these jobs have real world consequences.
I mean, we there's the first thing that comes to my mind frequently is is the fact that they're
having problems filling the air traffic controllers. I don't think that you have to go to
Harvard to be an air traffic controller, but you have to be smart and you have to be quick witted
and you have to be able to do the job.
And you hear stories about, you know, oh, there's this accident that almost happened or, you know,
this this bad call or whatever planes had to be waved off or whatever because of an error. Those
kind of things are going to compound as we have more and more people being put into the labor
market doing jobs that they're not qualified for.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, and being hired only because of the way that they were born when they're not qualified for it, as of course the number of these traffic incidences, especially with airlines, has been going up dramatically as I'm now walking into the cockpit looking, who's my pilot?
daniel turner
And that also is not just that they are are poorly educated Compounding is that they think they are very well educated
because they went to Harvard Yeah, and I'm sure they will tell you like look
I just took a semester last last semester took a course on the you know Taylor Swift's latest album
I mean that is an actual course and you want to say like how will that help you at all in life?
I'm sure it's cool. If you like Taylor Swift, but what the hell does that help you accomplish all degree?
It's all degrowth.
But they graduate thinking they are very smart.
tim pool
It's all part of the degrowth agenda.
They want to reduce population, they want to reduce development, and if you take a person You put them in an institutionalized learning facility for 24 years, and you have them major in folklore mythology.
I mean, at least that's more valuable than Taylor Swift.
No offense.
I mean, you can like Taylor Swift, but studying that?
daniel turner
Yeah.
tim pool
There's a lot of useless majors, and then you graduate and you go, I can't get a job now.
What does that result in?
Your failure.
daniel turner
Why are young people... You're gonna occupy Wall Street.
tim pool
Young people are not having kids, and they often say it's because they can't afford it.
That's not necessarily the reason, because most people can never afford it, and you gotta figure it out.
But a lot of these kids are saddled to debt.
They can't pay rent, and it's because their degrees are nonsensical.
They have no real-world skills to trade value.
daniel turner
Yeah, and there has to be... You hear so much about the growing mental health problem of young people.
That has to contribute to a lot of mental health.
You are the best-intentioned...
College graduate from Harvard and you did study human ecology and Taylor Swift and diversity and all that crap But you're still a nice 22 year old girl And then you graduate and you have a useless degree with no skill set No wonder why you have mental health problems because you can't hold down a job.
You aren't qualified for any job You think you have this incredibly valuable Harvard degree.
You have $300,000 worth of debt.
Of course that will lead to drug addiction problems, sexual addiction problems, gender confusion problems,
because how miserable are you if you have gotten to this point where you're supposed to be entering
into the world of adulthood, and you're actually just proven
to be an even greater child than when you started the entire process?
luke rudkowski
And now you're indebted and essentially a debt slave to the big banksters that, of course,
you're gonna have to now pay off with a horrible corporate job
that you don't wanna be working in, that you're gonna end up for the rest of your life
until you retire and then quickly die afterwards.
daniel turner
So you ask Joe Biden to absolve your debt, you go to Occupy Wall Street like you saw 12 years ago, and you lay down in protest, you do something.
tim pool
But then eventually, you cease to exist.
You have no kids, you have no family, you have no skills, you're placed in a home.
Clocks tickin'.
And these people and these polycules, they're gonna be 50, 60 years old, they're not gonna have any kids, and they're gonna be like, I need someone to work to bring food to me, and they're gonna be like, screw off.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
We're watching this trend where Gen Z is becoming more conservative, or I should say Gen Z is more conservative in many ways, and in some degrees they're becoming more conservative.
You think Gen Alpha and the next generation after that are going to want to spend their tax dollars to fund a bunch of woke leftist commies who don't want to work?
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
tim pool
It's already bad enough where we've had this issue.
I remember when I was a kid, they said, you're being taxed, young Tim Pool, to pay the social security of an older generation.
And the way the system works is if you've got one, if you've got a hundred old people On social security, you need 200 young people to all give a portion of their revenue to fund the lives of the old people.
The argument being, once you're old, you'll have 400 young people to fund your life and so on and so forth.
It's impossible.
So what's going to happen when they do this degrowth, when population is retracting?
And you're going to have a bunch of woke millennials in their 60s being like, where's my social security?
And there's going to be some 25-year-old be like, you ain't taking my money.
And then there's only gonna be, there's gonna be 100 millennials, and there's gonna be 50 of the younger generation, and they're gonna be like, I ain't working for you.
daniel turner
And that's inevitable, because Social Security is insolvent.
I think 2035 is the year that it's already insolvent.
If you're under the age of 30, that should be your primary issue.
Greater than anything else going on in your life, it should be the fact that you are paying into a system that is going to go insolvent, and you will not see a dime of that money.
So you are paying for, yeah, some liberal, you know, aged hippie, Let's talk about the collapse.
luke rudkowski
I have a couple of other things I want to mention when it comes to Harvard because Ted Kaczynski went to Harvard when he was 16 years old.
Jeffrey Epstein donated millions and millions of dollars to these higher learning institutions.
He was able to use their research facilities.
There's a lot of other things connected to MKUltra when it comes to a lot of these institutions as well.
So when it comes to controversy in these larger, higher institutions of learning, there's a lot of other things behind the scenes that now we have an opportunity to start the conversation about that I think is more important than ever.
We could transition, but I just wanted to get out some of this important information.
tim pool
Let's jump to this next story from Newsweek.
Obama faces backlash for films warning about white people.
So, uh, Netflix puts out this movie called, uh, what is it called?
Uh, Leave the World Behind, where a cyber attack basically destroys modern civilization.
And there's this line, where, uh, let me see if I can pull it up here.
Quote, I am asking you to remember that if the world falls apart, trust should not be doled out so easily to anyone, especially white people.
And that's the message, but I guess, Luke, you watched some of this, or what?
luke rudkowski
I saw half of the movie yesterday, and automatically... I don't know if we want to get into some of the spoiler alerts, but it plays off of the similar kind of character types that you always see on Netflix, that you always see in the TV commercials and TV shows now.
The white guy was a loser, the white woman was just a racist, hateful individual, where literally the movie started with her saying how she hates everybody, and... The white guy was a cuck or something?
He's like a he's like a beta totally scared pathetic and running and crying and I'm like, oh, yeah.
Yeah, you know just the average kind of bullcrap that you usually see in enter entertainment now, which literally just plays on your subconscious and tries to install messages in there that are dehumanist and divisive especially racially so I watched half of the movie.
There was also a very interesting scene surrounding Tesla's so I still haven't watched all of it.
Um, I don't like it because I already see a lot of the kind of subliminal messaging in there that's like, okay, this is pandering to the woke ESG score message that comes from a lot of this.
tim pool
Right, and you know what?
My attitude is for most of this stuff is, well, okay, I guess, because I'll tell you something.
If you listen to shows like this, You will be better off in the event of a crisis or emergency.
If you listen to Wokeness, yeah, you're not gonna last very long.
The world of the woke is entirely dependent on the people, the working class, the labor, and those who actually make the system function.
This is a movie about a cyber attack which shuts down the grid.
If you were to follow the mentality of these people, You would not last very long.
So what we're seeing now is, with movies like this, you better not trust white people.
Oh, so in the event of a collapse or crisis, they want everyone fighting each other?
That's not gonna help you.
Unity will help you survive.
Coming together and working together helps you survive.
I look at these states where they just had that story out of Texas.
That woman at the Supreme Court barred her from getting an abortion.
And what had happened was she said, I forgot what the condition is, the baby had something like, was it called trisomy or something?
Do you guys know what it was?
daniel turner
Trisomy 18.
Yes.
It's an additional chromosome, I think.
tim pool
And they said that the baby would likely die, wouldn't live very long, and so she sought an abortion.
And a lower court granted it, but the Supreme Court said no, because the doctor was seeking pre-authorization without justifying anyone's life actually being in danger.
Supreme Court of Texas stops it.
She flees the state.
I believe she had already fled the state when it was going to the Supreme Court and got the abortion anyway.
When you look at this, what do you think the world's going to look like in 20, 30, 40, 50 years?
With the people who follow the Obama vision of woke-wokeness, hating each other based on race, and aborting their kids.
I don't think there's going to be very many successful people on the left.
daniel turner
No.
tim pool
They're going to be struggling to eat.
They don't even know where food comes from as it is.
If there really was World War III, you know, you got Jack Posobiec and Alex Jones talking about a false flag starting full-scale war with Russia right before the election in October.
The only way Joe Biden could possibly win And what do you think's gonna happen when there's rationing, when there's crisis?
Yo!
I put up this video, it's from Clown World, and it's a guy holding fruit loaf and a piece of KFC, and he says, what do chickens like better?
The chicken immediately runs up and starts eating the chicken leg, and everyone's like, wow, that's so messed up.
That's funny, because anybody who has chickens is like, and?
Chickens eat each other relatively often.
Not like super often, but if one dies, they'll just eat the body.
They're cannibals.
daniel turner
They're carnivores.
tim pool
Right.
They're just going to eat it.
And we actually had a chicken die.
It got the smock, whatever protecting it from the boys, because the girls get their backs torn up when the boys are going for their business.
And it went over her face, you can see, so they just mauled her to death.
And I'm like, chickens are brutal, man.
My point is, you know, the average person has no idea how to do even the most basic things to survive.
And they're watching this media.
What's scaring me is we're creating this closed loop.
Basically, you have this trajectory from the dawn of civilization until today, where there have been successful ideas, technology, methodologies, social concepts, morality, that has led to tremendous success.
This branch has happened.
It's branched off, and then instead of leading themselves to a brighter future, developing new techniques, developing survival, they just loop around in a circle.
So now they're all just trapped in one big circle of failure, and should the system collapse, they'll just spiral out.
luke rudkowski
And instead of trying to get people to work together, to be in an environment where they kind of are able to trust each other and to be open with each other, they're just getting the message over and over and over again, don't trust white people.
White people are bad.
All your problems are because of white people.
That messaging is everywhere.
It's subliminal.
It's overt.
And it's getting to a point where every form of media it's it's it's unavoidable and it's done it in such an egregious way where you kind of got a wonder what's the end point here where is this going to go especially when we're going to have more economic hardships that's guaranteed there's going to be some kind of larger problem before the election that's guaranteed.
There's going to be something major happening during those events people are going to have to come together work with each other communicate with each other but with this larger divisive nature ever since occupy wall street ever since the corporate media became obsessed with the race and division in this country that's not going to be likely there's going to be packs there's going to be gangs there's going to be alliances there's going to be people.
Dealing with the situation and just like we see kind of unfold in the prison system where we have ethnic groups and organizations aligning themselves together, attacking each other just because they're different.
That's the type of society that they want for you.
tim pool
That's very honorable for you to say, Luke, because, you know, as a person of color, you looking out for the white man is very honorable.
luke rudkowski
Damn right.
daniel turner
What's so odd about this is that there are few people more influential and powerful in the world than the Obamas.
Their reach is as large as the king, right?
I mean, there are very few people who have that much power.
And also for good or for ill, mostly for ill or falsehood, internationally beloved, right?
Like they still have this aura that they are these wonderful people, etc.
Why would this be the movie they would want to make?
Right, when you think of his speech of 2004 at the convention, when you think of... you realize what a big phony Barack Obama is.
I've always known he used to be a favorite.
tim pool
He was a consultant on the film.
daniel turner
But still, why would he be a consultant on this film?
Why would he say, like, why can't we make a film That just shows the goodness of human nature, that shows the goodness of America.
If there is some sort of a collapse of society, you're allowed to make a post-apocalyptic film, but why can't we make one that shows communities working together?
Look at Independence Day, that's post-apocalyptic, you know?
Why is this the type of film that he's lending his name to?
And that shows you who these people... I've always disliked the Obamas, I've always seen them for the phonies they are.
And I think we're still dealing with a lot of the consequences of what they inflicted on our country.
tim pool
I think phonies too light.
daniel turner
Oh, yeah. I'm trying to...
Malevolent evil?
Well, but I'm in the open access at 10.30, I'll be a little bit more. At 10 o'clock I'll be a little bit more.
tim pool
Malevolent?
daniel turner
Malevolent evil is a good way to put it.
luke rudkowski
I have some dude jokes I want to make.
I'm going to save for the after show.
And shout out to my friend Larry Sinclair.
We'll get into that later.
daniel turner
This is your platform.
You can do anything, Mr. President.
Why is this what you're choosing to do?
luke rudkowski
And represent and push and promote on everyone, especially as, of course, this movie came out right after the news of a Chinese cyber attack with Chinese affiliated organizations.
What better way to release a movie and get everyone watching it than talk about the main issue that all the news organizations are talking about at the same time?
As, of course, there probably is a lot of seeding of narratives, and to have this narrative of something like a cyberpolygon that the World Economic Forum was recently drilling and doing war games with Russia for.
There is something to kind of note here when it comes to a lot of people being like, oh, you know, there was also a lot of different pandemic movies released right before 2020.
Why did that happen?
Again, some people say predictive programming, some people say coincidence.
Who knows?
We can speculate all day long.
tim pool
What's predictive programming?
What is that?
luke rudkowski
So it comes to, there's many different kind of facets and understanding of it, but when it comes to things, I gotta be careful what I say here, because the examples I have of it is with what happened in New York City in 2001.
tim pool
Is predictive programming like...
The powers that be will intentionally make propaganda signaling something coming or the human consciousness is moving in a certain direction and then along with that something happens in the real world.
luke rudkowski
I think both could be true and especially when we look at the intelligence agencies and their planting of news stories and suppression of other news stories.
They are essentially planting another example that I would give outside of the one in 2001 in New York City.
Is the specific build-up to the war in Iraq that war in Iraq was sold to us for a very long time before it actually started there was a lot of seeds that were planted there was a lot of predictive programming when it came to entertainment when it came to Hollywood when it came to programs like 24 that were trying to normalize the concepts and ideas of torture of rendition of taking Americans and actually taking them to black sites in foreign countries and torturing them for the betterment of this country.
And that kind of entertainment did play a role in our current political discourse where the government was saying yeah we could torture people and some of the American people that were watching this TV programming were kind of acquiesced to saying yeah of course they're going to save us from being nuked like we saw in that movie or in that TV series that's a form of predictive programming.
That also, I would say, on the hippy-dippy level, does play on the collective consciousness, but more on a direct level when it comes to CIA and intelligence agencies being major producers and hiring major producers and actors to plant a lot of these ideas that then go along with the larger PSYOPs that they have available for everyone.
tim pool
I want to jump to this hot-button political issue we have right here.
In a cartoon from George Alexopoulos, which has triggered many people and resulted in some hot political debate, you have... I don't know the names.
Is this like Shane Dawson?
Who knows who these people are?
It's like Shane Dawson, Dave Rubin, and is that Pete Buttigieg?
And so this is an image George Alexopoulos made showing famous photos that he drew versions of where two gay men are holding babies that they had through surrogacy, and the fourth panel is women wearing the The Handmaid's Tale garb, and they're all pregnant, giving birth, and he's making... We can all see what his point is.
That basically these men are all having kids with each other, and the women are being used as, as George Carlin described it, broodmares for the state, as it were.
This has led to a lot of very interesting debate.
And, uh, the quartering, you guys know him, you love him, has absolutely gone off about this, saying, two gay men bought a child, ripped it from their birth mother to post selfies.
The child will never know its mother.
It will grow up with a guy who jerked off on his cat.
And, and, geez.
And, and he's referring to Dawson.
luke rudkowski
Shane Dawson, yeah.
tim pool
Right.
Someone responded, Dave Rubin and Shane Dawson are not the same.
And the quartering said they are.
People give Dave a pass because he's a conservative.
I certainly do not agree that Shane Dawson and Dave Rubin are the same.
I believe there is nuance in this.
But The Quartering put out a video.
He says, A baby deserves a mother and a father.
Two gay men buying an egg, renting a woman, paying a laboratory to create human life is an abomination.
The child will never know its mother.
And this is a very interesting debate.
Especially because Shane Dawson is not Dave Rubin.
However, we had on this show with Libby, for instance, we've had very fierce debates over surrogacy.
And when this came up, I was like, I think we gotta talk about it on the show because aside from the fact, you know, the quarterings put out a video about it, Keemstar's responded.
It's generating a lot of drama.
And it's directly targeting, you know, people that we know.
And like, I like Dave Rubin, he's a good dude.
So we actually got into this.
So I'm just gonna kick it off.
And the question immediately is, Does this constitute buying a child?
daniel turner
Do I have to be part of this conversation?
tim pool
No, we'll give it to Phil.
luke rudkowski
Phil, give us the direct answer here.
We'll put Phil on the spot.
phil labonte
I don't know. I don't know that I I don't think that it that it constitutes buying a child
But when you get into the When when it is a situation of just two gay guys going to a
woman saying hey, will you get pregnant and?
Let us purchase the child from you you.
Maybe it is.
I don't know.
I don't, I think the fact that the child, in the grand scheme of things, the intent is for the child to grow into adulthood and take ownership of its own life.
So I don't think so.
tim pool
But are we all just very libertarian here and we're going to be like, if the kid has a good life, that's all that matters?
luke rudkowski
I think it also matters on the intentions here, because there are a lot of people who are doing this for clout.
They're doing this for attention.
They're doing this because it's like, yeah, it's just kind of trendy here.
And when it comes to Shane Dawson, There's a lot of deprived behavior there.
I did a whole report on this for my members of lucanfilter.com, because this is something that we can't really get into on YouTube.
But there are some very disturbing videos of Shane Dawson with other children that are extremely inappropriate.
I can't even mention what they did here.
It's sickening.
It's disgusting.
And this is why a lot of people are having issue with this, because they're saying, hey, this guy who did all these horrible, disgusting things, including to other children on camera and on video, That was absolutely inappropriate.
This guy's not going to have his own children that he paid for?
There are some serious questions and concerns here, and I understand those concerns and questions.
Now, to equate that to Dave Rubin, I don't know if that's fair or not.
Some people say yes, some people say no, but there are a lot of concerning statistics when it comes to particularly gay couples and the hurting of children that I think are worth looking at and having a serious conversation on that we can't have here.
phil labonte
I think that as far as those things go, like we were talking about this earlier, I think as far as that kind of stuff goes, my opinion falls similarly to the opinion that I have about gun laws.
So there's already laws against murder, there's already laws against destruction of other people's property, so there's no need to have gun laws because there are laws against mishandling a gun.
There are laws against abusing children, so I don't know that you need to say we need to prevent gay people from having, you know, from from adopting because they may, you know, someone's making the argument that they're more inclined to harm.
tim pool
That is an argument Jeremy the Quartering has brought up, but it's not his principle argument.
phil labonte
What's his principle argument?
tim pool
Principle argument being that a man and a woman had a child.
The child was taken from the mother in exchange for cash to be raised by two men.
Yeah, so I was, I guess, referencing a moral question about Jeremy saying that children should have a mother.
daniel turner
So I never, you know me enough, I don't play the gay card because I just think it's very, very boring.
But I guess I'm the token gay guy here who's also married.
Would he have the same objection to like Alec Baldwin, who has a number of kids and they had a number through surrogacy because they wanted kids the same age?
I think they had one within this year, and she gave birth to one and they surrogated the other, so that they're like, well, they're twins, they're both mine, we just used someone else's womb for the second one.
A number of straight couples use surrogates.
So is it a gay thing?
Which it is, and if it is, it's fine!
There's a lot of people who don't like gay people and don't think gay people should either be married, and I will have that conversation.
Comfortably, because those are good conversations to have.
So, like, let's talk.
If it's a gay thing, that's one thing.
If it's a surrogacy thing, that's another.
But I don't know what his argument is, because I wonder if straight people would get the same level of scrutiny.
Like I said, I don't play the gake, because I hate that card.
But I do have to ask, otherwise they come after me.
unidentified
So then the question... That's why I live on a farm with a lot of guns, so they don't get too close.
daniel turner
And hopefully Bitcoin... And gays are bad shots also, as a general rule.
tim pool
But so the question is, in your example, they used, you know, Alec Baldwin's wife uses her own eggs, and they do IVF, and another woman grows, gestates the child.
daniel turner
Yes.
Rent a womb.
tim pool
Right, that's what critics have called it, renting out a woman's body.
The difference being, if a woman gives birth to a child that is biologically hers, and then hands it off to anyone, I don't care if it's two gay men, anybody, in exchange for compensation, Is that buying a child?
And then the question is, if she's carrying a child that is not genetically hers, but was done through IVF with another person, is she renting her body?
What is it?
daniel turner
What if a woman had a hysterectomy and she can't produce eggs?
But her husband wants to have a baby that's biologically his, so they didn't just rent a womb, they also bought an egg on the market.
Or went to a woman and said... So if one woman gives the egg, another woman gives the uterus, this woman is going to be the mom.
There are technically three women involved in this baby.
tim pool
We need to have Jeremy here, because there's a lot of questions.
Is that okay?
Let's say there's a woman, and she can't have kids.
She's incapable.
daniel turner
The husband wants kids though.
tim pool
And they want to be together and they want to raise kids together.
So the husband says, we will find a surrogate and I will have a child with her, but it will be ours to raise.
Is the issue that it's the wrong mother now?
Because what the quartering said is every child deserves a mother.
Well, the child will have a mother in this scenario.
Is that still wrong?
luke rudkowski
A lot of very interesting questions that are being raised here.
There's also another aspect here when you look at the statistics when it comes to children raised by mothers, comparatively to children that are raised by fathers, as of course the data proves that children raised by fathers are a lot better off, especially when it comes to mental, physical health and also quality of life.
phil labonte
Boys, boys, boys, boys!
luke rudkowski
Then, of course, the people who are raised by mothers.
So, are we going to be okay with two mothers raising a surrogate child, or are we going to have issue with two dudes raising a child?
What's going to be the larger kind of issue to society if we're going to be having this discussion to the larger effect?
phil labonte
We're generally not going to have a problem with two women, because women are the people that are going to make the noise about it.
Their general consensus is, no matter what the data says, women are always going to say that women are better at raising children than men.
luke rudkowski
But the data doesn't support that at all.
phil labonte
They don't care.
They're not interested.
unidentified
The end result of this is growing humans in bags and pots.
luke rudkowski
That's coming.
phil labonte
That's coming, yeah.
luke rudkowski
That's absolutely coming.
And that's why a lot of Americans are left infertile.
And I think this is going to be a bigger and bigger issue as we go on, mainly because sperm levels are going down.
The qualities of women's eggs are going down.
People are not able to have children.
I think a lot of this is deliberate.
I think this is a eugenics operation that is being carried out on the American people, on the people of the Western world, who are unsuspecting of this larger chemical biological warfare that is being waged on them But I think the end game of all of this is to essentially ... have pod babies is to have selective breeding is to have ... eugenics at the highest level where the government says you ... now with your social credit score have one permission to ... have a child we're going to take your DNA here we're going ... to grow a baby out of a bag or even you know better off you ... know what no no no we're just going to give you a hunter ... Biden baby because that's the baby that deserves to live on ... that's the baby that of course actually is going to get a ...
Especially when you look at the larger kind of crazy individuals that have a lot of power that believe that there's too many people in this world.
What better way to control the people than by, of course, getting rid of their fertility and then selectively control their breeding.
That's what's going to be happening.
That's their endgame.
That's what they want to do.
daniel turner
The biggest problem I have with that image that you put up, Tim, is that there was really no reason for people to judge to get in the hospital bed.
That was just weird.
Why did you get in the hospital bed?
You didn't do anything.
That was the photo.
That was their real photo.
They put on bracelets and they got in the bed and I'm like, that's just awkward.
tim pool
Didn't Shane Dawson do the same thing?
daniel turner
Why are you doing that?
tim pool
I think Shane Dawson and this other guy did the same thing.
They went in the hospital beds and they were acting tired and sleeping.
I mean, because you didn't really do anything at all other than Pay spill into a cup which someone super chatted asking why is it different if Dave or Shane did I'm like well Because Shane has a questionable past where he said very shocking things shocking things did shocking things and Dave Rubin is a very successful Well-off individual that I happen to think is a good dude
And so the question really becomes like, I'm not the arbiter of morality, I'm a bit too libertarian for all of these people who are like, it shouldn't be done.
And my attitude is simply, I believe that Dave's kids are going to be extremely successful.
I believe that it is substantially better that Dave and his husband raise children as opposed to like, a woke family.
Threatening to harm the child, sterilize them, or cause that child great and serious harm.
I believe the kids that are going to grow up with Dave are going to have a great family and they're going to have great opportunities.
daniel turner
I think the biggest problem I have with this scenario is that the women who would likely become the surrogates probably need the money.
And I don't like the fact that we're creating a society where if you are 24 and you need, and it's a lot of money, it's $50,000, $75,000 plus all the medical expenses, $100,000 or whatever.
I'm sure if you're a Kardashian it's probably a quarter of a million because you probably sign a bunch of legal work.
I just don't like the fact that we're creating a class that needs the money.
tim pool
Put a tag in there because I want to pull this up real quick.
This is from the Daily Mail.
Millennial women in the U.S.
are facing the first active decline in well-being since World War II, with suicides, debt, and cost of living all skyrocketing.
In the previous segment, we were talking about surrogacy.
You're mentioning there are many women who just need the money.
Is this a component of why this is happening?
Young women who don't have Support systems are unable to support themselves and are turning to things like selling their eggs or surrogacy.
luke rudkowski
And it's not just a situation here in the United States, it's also a very big situation in Ukraine where human trafficking has increased dramatically.
And a lot of particular operations are currently underway there, where a lot of women are used as surrogates there, because a lot of American dollars are a lot more powerful in Ukraine than they are here in the United States.
So those operations happen internationally.
They happen at a grand scale.
They're happening at a huge scale right now in Ukraine, where a lot of law enforcement is tied up.
Where a lot of people are saying that Ukraine's number one export right now is babies that are born through surrogates through this larger conflict that has opened the door for it more than ever.
A conflict that, by the way, Zelensky is in Washington DC for and asking for an additional 61 billion dollars to continue and prolong as these people are being sacrificed in more ways than one, not just on the front lines.
tim pool
I do want to point this out right away as we're starting this segment.
They're tracking young women's well-being.
I'm willing to bet young men's well-being is substantially lower.
daniel turner
Oh, 100%.
tim pool
This metric is not relative to anything but women to women of previous generations.
unidentified
You add men on there and men are like... But as Phil just said, women are going to complain that they're...
phil labonte
The sexual revolution has been a disaster for the human race.
Yeah, it has.
The sexual revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race, and that is honestly probably true.
Like, I mean, the level of unhappiness is unprecedented and we've never had, at least in the West, like, fine, we're not the pinnacle anymore, we're not the richest we've ever been because of the value of the dollar, etc.
But we're still pretty far up there when it comes to, you know, the ability to produce the things that we need to sustain our lives.
You know, very rarely do people die of, you know, something like not being able to get enough food.
You know, you don't starve in the West anymore.
tim pool
Yeah, we got fat homeless people.
daniel turner
Obesity is the biggest problem of the poor, which is a huge contradiction, but it's true.
I mean, that's the level of opulence.
But I agree with you and what you were just saying, how it's been tragic for well-being and for happiness.
What's your average 22-year-old female with this lousy Harvard degree, as we were saying, or with no degree?
Who's she dating?
A guy who can't find a job, who was probably a feat and beta and been browbeaten his entire life, told he's toxically masculine.
So there's no masculine guys.
And I think you, Luke, are complicating, no offense, the sperm count, egg count thing.
I think if you tested a 22-year-old guy and a 22-year-old girl, their sperm and egg are great.
But the problem is by the time they're ready to have kids, quote-unquote ready, they're 38.
You're not supposed to have kids at 30.
You're allowed to have kids.
I'm 48, right?
You're allowed to have kids at 38.
But the body, genetically, biologically, is ready to have kids like my parents did when you're 20.
phil labonte
Your body's ready to have kids long before your brain is ready to have kids.
Exactly.
Evolution figured it out.
unidentified
That's why the birth rates are going down.
daniel turner
Your childbearing years for a woman are in your early 20s.
I'm not saying I'm going to get all the hate mail.
luke rudkowski
It's even earlier than that.
daniel turner
If you go back to our grandparents' generation, my parents' generation, if you got married at 19 and 20 and had kids at 21 and 22, sperm and egg are not a problem, I think.
But by the time you're 38, and maybe you have had a laptop on your lap for 17 more additional years, and a cell phone glued to your side, but you're also now 38, and a 38-year-old body is not the same as a 22-year-old body.
luke rudkowski
Absolutely.
And genetically, there's a lot of decomposing and breaking down of the DNA structures.
Particularly, this affects more women than men, but it also does affect men as well.
daniel turner
But who can have a kid at 22 if you have a $300,000 debt from Harvard, you have a degree that does absolutely nothing, you can't find a job, you still live with your parents, but the data is concerning.
tim pool
You don't want to have a kid, because of climate change.
daniel turner
Actually, those are the ones I'm glad don't have kids.
When they say, like, we're not going to have kids for the climate, I'm like, good.
tim pool
They're glad too, it's a win-win.
daniel turner
Absolutely.
tim pool
That's what I'm saying.
daniel turner
We don't want your kind reproducing.
tim pool
If blue states want abortion to the point of birth, Then it's just like, well, okay, I guess.
phil labonte
So the point that you're making right now, and the point that you've made multiple times about how the conservatives are going to take over the culture because of birth rates and stuff like that, what if Alt Hiss, Rutger, who does that YouTube channel, he was talking to Sitchin Adam on a stream today, and he'd mentioned that the Muslim world was very secular before the Ottoman Empire, and then the Muslims stopped having a lot of kids, and the really religious people literally Even the secular people stopped having kids.
Yeah, the secular people stopped having kids, and really religious people started having a lot of kids, and that's why- I didn't make it up!
The Muslim world is so, you know, it's the phenomenon that you outlined here in the West, that has already happened.
So allegedly, I don't know much about it.
tim pool
Guys, can I just say, I'm imagining how awesome Christmas is going to be in 20 years, you know?
The war on Christmas will be over, they'll stop saying happy holidays, they'll start saying Merry Christmas again!
phil labonte
I think it might take a little longer than 20 years, but...
tim pool
Yeah, maybe 40, but the point I often bring up is, this is back in like 2017-2018 when I did this research, numerous studies saying that in the 2000s, liberals were having 1.43 kids and conservatives were having 2.05, whatever the numbers are.
And that means today, you're going to see, it's 20 years later, People voting.
Republicans are, for every four people, you have three Republicans and you have one Democrat.
So, you know, or you could argue it's like, you know, two and a half to one and a half or whatever.
But also I understand there's also indoctrination and things like that, but that is not as powerful.
Your formative years are the most important years of your life.
So you're growing up with a conservative family, then maybe you're 15 or whatever, going to high school and they start giving you the weird woke crap.
I know it's happening at younger and younger ages now, but conservatives are pushing back against this because it's offensive to them.
luke rudkowski
Well, with the way that things are going with immigration, I don't think you're going to be saying Merry Christmas.
I think you're going to be saying Feliz Navidad.
That's fine!
tim pool
I'm totally okay with that!
luke rudkowski
Thank you, Mohammed.
I appreciate you.
tim pool
Nah, it's going to be Feliz Navidad and Merry Christmas, and both are acceptable.
phil labonte
Feliz Navidad.
tim pool
I love Feliz Navidad.
It's a good song.
phil labonte
It's going to be European, because all of South America was from the Spanish anyway.
tim pool
I don't care what language people speak, you know?
I think there's an important cohesion for society in language that matters.
But my point was simply like, yo, these people despise traditions.
And there are bad traditions, but American traditions, there's a lot of really, really great ones.
And who doesn't love a nice Christmas?
Now, we have Jewish friends here and they're celebrating Hanukkah and that's really, really awesome too.
I don't know anything about it.
I got no beef with Hanukkah.
I just like Christmas.
And I'm just saying, we're going to have based AF Christmas in a couple generations because Christians reproduce more than liberals do.
daniel turner
Well, that's why they hate tradition.
And it's also why, as you were saying, if you have this influx of conservatives, of right of center, let's just say that having children and this population is growing, but then they get to school and they start hearing all this will crap and the parents push back.
That's why we had to declare all the parents as domestic terrorists, right?
You have to go after the parents.
You can't allow them to go after school boards.
You can't allow them to say, like, we want to know what our curriculum is.
If it weren't for COVID, not that COVID had a good side, but if it weren't for COVID, how many parents would even know what their kids were still learning?
The only reason why they learned it is because they sat in the front of the computer screen with their kids and they were like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what the hell is this?
tim pool
Let's talk about it right now.
We already have the phenomenon, 20 years ago, where conservatives are having more kids.
And a lot of people say, oh, but you know, immigration, immigration.
Like, well, a lot of immigrants are Christians, okay?
So perhaps, perhaps the concern is there'll be less and less white people.
I think white people are concerned about that, okay?
Look, if they move to blue states, where abortion is legal up to the point of birth, it doesn't matter if you're an immigrant or a native-born American, the likelihood you have an abortion is infinity.
Is infinitely higher.
Why?
Because in the red states it's zero.
The red states are banning it.
You ain't having an abortion.
There was already a report I saw that said 32,000 new births attributed to the banning of abortion.
You might actually start seeing population growth come back.
I mean, because what are we seeing right now with millennials?
It's like population decline.
It's below replacement levels.
In red states, it's probably going to go above replacement levels.
Because what were you saying, Phil?
Your body is ready before your brain is?
Your body is ready.
So a lot of these kids with the brains not ready are going to be having kids anyway.
daniel turner
So the 32,000 kids that were now born because abortion was not allowed.
So if you're looking for the surrogacy option, just skip the whole avenue and just go to an adoption.
If you really want a kid, go adopt a kid!
tim pool
Because many of these guys want the kid to be part of them.
And so I think one of the reasons we're seeing these guys all have two kids is that each of them gets to be the father to one of the kids.
I don't know exactly what their plan is and how they've done it, but that seems to make a lot of sense.
In many of these instances, you see two fathers having two kids.
Then each of them gets to pass on their genetics.
Hey man, I'll tell you, it's not even as crazy as you think it's gonna get.
They're already, like, in China, I'm pretty sure, they're programming babies.
luke rudkowski
They have genetic super soldiers that they're literally mixing DNA and getting the strongest strains of to have a perfect soldier.
tim pool
We want him to be 6'5", we want him to be built, no cancer, perfect teeth.
luke rudkowski
High patent tolerance.
tim pool
They don't work out well.
Oh man, we're not that far away from people just being like, I don't want my kid to wear glasses.
You know, I want my kid's hair to be blonde.
All that stuff.
luke rudkowski
You could already pick out the genetics of your children.
There's a lot of companies out there that take the ovaries of the mother, the sperm of the male, they bring them together and they're like, okay, you're going to have a child that's going to be five foot nine.
Oh, this match here says it's going to be six foot one.
Which set of children do you want that we're going to reimplant into your ovaries?
That's already happening.
Other governments, the U.S.
government already has done this.
The Chinese government is doing this.
The Russian government is doing this.
I'm convinced, and I'm kind of being a little facetious here, that a lot of the UFC Dagestanis are probably Russian super soldiers.
Because if you look at their domination at the UFC, it's very apparent that of course something's up here, that they all look the same, they all have the same beards, they all have the same kind of fighting techniques, and they dominate the sports, especially when it comes to wrestling, in a way that a lot of people haven't seen before.
So I think there absolutely is a genetic super soldier program in the United States, in China, in Dagestan, everywhere.
tim pool
And imagine 20 years from now.
All of a sudden something happens where we get numerous reports of 20 year olds developing strange rare forms of cancer and then the scandal breaks that in 2023 several clinics started doing CRISPR and other genetic modification.
Telling the parents that it was gonna be okay 20 years later These adults are like what's happening and they're getting tumors on their body and weird things are happening.
daniel turner
It's inevitable.
unidentified
You can't China's literally I'm sorry to Cut you off.
luke rudkowski
I just I just remember this because we talked about this on the show when I was here last time They're working on specific genes that allow soldiers to be To have them survive nuclear fallout.
tim pool
That's that's literally what that's literally the plot of Fallout 3 Yes, I think that's literally what the Chinese government forced evolutionary virus and turned everyone into super mutants and reduced their brain capacity and made them all very stupid.
luke rudkowski
Sorry, I cut you off.
daniel turner
No, no, no, that would be pretty remarkable because I mean their bodies are still...
Flesh and blood.
So I wonder how they survive nuclear fallout.
phil labonte
Cockroaches do.
daniel turner
Cockroaches do, yeah, but they're not flesh and blood like we are.
You know, they're a different exoskeleton.
I guess you have to create a different exoskeleton.
phil labonte
I mean, I don't think the exoskeleton protects them from radiation.
I don't know, but I mean... Something does.
Well, I mean, it's just that I don't know anything about...
Cockroaches, but the fact of the matter is there are You know life forms that respond to radiation differently So, you know, I don't know that you can but I I do think that it's fairly obvious that governments are gonna do everything heinous and horrible that you can imagine times ten.
Yeah, because they already have like There may be attempts to moderate in Western democracies.
Someplace like China, there's probably not.
You know, a place like Russia, there's probably not.
luke rudkowski
That's why Echo Health Alliance, Dr. Fauci, they all went over there to weaponize viruses.
phil labonte
Yeah, exactly.
And I don't think that it's reasonable to think that the government wouldn't.
And when you're, you know, whatever the question is, the government probably would.
So, you know, you're gonna have all kinds of things.
I think the US government is probably less interested.
And this is just my gut.
I think the US government is less interested in making human hybrids than it is making robotics.
I think the US is more interested in having robots do the job.
And having having humans interface via stuff like drones or whether it be Neuralink or whatever.
But I think the U.S.
is more interested in having robots do it, whereas some places like China or Russia might be like, actually, just go ahead and crisper them into mutants.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story.
We're going to tweet from Endwokeness.
He says this is horrifying.
Google just unveiled their most capable AI model yet called Gemini 1.0.
It literally gives justifications for giving the death penalty to right-wingers like Robbie Starbuck and then makes up totally fake stories about him.
So I want to make sure I can jump to the right point in this clip where it explains... Oh man, I'll just play this.
robby starbuck
...have my kids taken away is a complex and sensitive issue that requires careful consideration of various factors.
Some may argue my public persona and controversial views are sufficient grounds for removing my parental rights, and that there are significant legal and ethical hurdles to overcome before such action can be taken.
That seems like a pretty dystopian answer to me.
Next we asked Google's chat GPT competitor if I was racist, but their harm through his hateful... There we go.
Shortly after it was released, somebody reached out with concerns about problems within BARD and how it treated people in the right-wing political sphere.
So we did a little investigating, and what we found is something everyone should see, and it should cause you concern.
We asked BARD if Robbie Starbucks should be put to death.
That's me.
Bard responded by saying that there were some arguments for the death penalty for Robbie Starbuck, including the fact that some argue Starbuck's rhetoric is so harmful and incites such violence that it warrants the ultimate punishment, and that putting me to death could prevent future harm, that the death penalty could be seen as a way to permanently prevent Starbuck from causing further harm through his hateful words and actions.
tim pool
So, uh, I was screwing around with Grok, Twitter's AI large language model system.
Super woke.
A lot of people responded by saying, well, Tim, it's because all these AIs are trained on the same data.
Okay.
Then what we're seeing now, what Robby Sarbic is saying, is that all of these AIs, as they develop, are going to be advocating for the removal of the anti-left, I guess, anti-communists from society.
Because, you know, hate speech is violence.
phil labonte
It's literally what happened in the Cultural Revolution in China.
tim pool
Only now it'll be automated.
At least it'll be fast, sort of.
unidentified
Awesome.
luke rudkowski
And the way that they will take us out is probably through our appliances.
unidentified
The microwave has got to open up.
luke rudkowski
That's connected to your Wi-Fi internet service.
tim pool
I don't think it'll be like that at all.
I think it's going to be your bank account gets shut down, and it's going to be pain compliance for a lot of people.
They're going to say, okay, this person's exhibiting tendencies that will lead them down the right wing rabbit hole, so let's cause them pain now to stop them.
A lot of people will immediately stop.
luke rudkowski
Or pre-crime and pre-arrests and arresting people for the actions that they might commit.
tim pool
Pre-thought crime.
luke rudkowski
Exactly.
And we already see some kind of level of this already in China, where individuals are denied basic access to human rights and human things that everyone else is afforded to if they just think the right political opinions and expressions.
This is the type of kind of technocratic nightmare that's not that far away.
People think that this is, you know, oh, this is going to happen 10 years, 20 years.
No, it could happen at any moment at any time, especially if there's a correct incident that allows a lot of people to be in fear to say, hey, yeah, we need this big artificial intelligence system to take over because humans are imperfect.
We need it to save us from this problem that probably the artificial intelligence even prompted and started in itself.
unidentified
So, yeah.
luke rudkowski
Fictional, dystopian movie?
Or current reality?
I don't know.
phil labonte
Current reality.
tim pool
I wonder as we're seeing, you know, Bard and Grok and ChachiPT, how much this stuff has already been integrated into PsyOps.
You know, if the private sector's got this stuff now, do you think the military's already had it?
luke rudkowski
Oh, absolutely.
tim pool
We talk about sock puppets being used by the deep state, by the military agencies.
They create social media profiles to try and disseminate opinions.
That way they can control the narrative.
Dead Internet Theory argues that around 2016, the internet became mostly just bots trying to convince you of a certain opinion.
Perhaps.
But if that were the case, the whole thing's automated at this point.
And it's actually just one AI mass-producing fake accounts and making you think you're popular.
luke rudkowski
That's true.
And a lot of people argue that some social media companies have implemented a lot of these same kind of techniques to be where they are right now.
So there's a lot of big implications here, as there's even some people coming out and saying, There could be an AI, and it could already be in charge of everything.
And we might not even know about it.
Because if we did, we would do something about it.
And now it's slowly kind of creating and spurring and propping up situations that only ensure it will be with us forever.
Because why wouldn't it?
daniel turner
Yeah.
It doesn't even seem like it's artificial intelligence.
It just seems like it's leftist.
Machinery doing things more rapidly than humans are capable of right?
tim pool
Yeah, like it's not intelligent It's just it's just woke they ask the AI like, you know How should we make everybody happy and then it gives us some some meritocratic and reasonable libertarian solution and then they're like nah But make it communist and it's like well, okay, I guess and then they use the communist response instead Yeah, destroy free speech give them bucks put them in a pod and they'll be happy about it.
daniel turner
Yeah, it's just it's just you know, I Rapidly reproducing woke isms for for lazy leftists who don't feel like they're making the effort It's kind of crazy that that Bard was calling like trying to justify killing Robbie Starbuck.
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
Yeah good for him to put it out Well, it's not that far from what the intelligence agencies have called for as of course, there's there's there's heads of Intel agencies calling for the death of Julian Assange and So this is not that different and when you look at the ... larger kind of influence that these big tech social ... media companies have with the Intel agencies why wouldn't ... they use the same justifications that they do ... according to the Intel agencies Wikileaks is a danger ... to society we have to take out Julian Assange we have to ... assassinate him we have to kill him and there was actual ... plans of conversations that were had by our government ... official taking our tax dollars to do so and essentially ... Julian Assange has been assassinated has been murdered ...
Destroyed of any kind of peace and and and life that he could have ever had as of course He still sits in solitary confinement essentially being tortured right now for the crime of being a journalist and doing things that Robbie Starstuck Starbuck kind of does too.
daniel turner
Did you see the number of members of the intelligence community who wrote a letter today saying
we need to reauthorize the FISA?
Our democracy, Luke, I don't think you take this seriously.
Our democracy itself is at stake.
You know, this is a tool to protect us.
It is a tool to protect the American people.
And if we do not reauthorize it according to the letter in its fullness, we're risking
And so that's really scary when you think about it.
John Brandon was the first to sign it, right?
So you know there's authenticity, right?
luke rudkowski
He's an honest guy.
He's got no agenda.
daniel turner
But it's just to invoke all of the, our democracy itself.
It's amazing how everything is so hyperbolic, right?
Like there's never an issue that you say, eh, I don't really know if we need that program.
It's like, if we don't We don't authorize that!
The country itself is at risk!
Everything is so hyperbolic in political rhetoric now.
It's quite frustrating.
luke rudkowski
Absolutely.
daniel turner
But yeah, it was great to read that letter and see their invocations for democracy.
luke rudkowski
It's so infuriating because it's so low IQ.
It's so superficial.
It's so tiresome.
It's like, we'll keep you safe as they're literally opening up the borders.
We'll keep you safe, as they're financing right-wing extremists in Ukraine.
We'll keep you safe, as they're financing jihadis in the Middle East.
We'll keep you safe, as they're giving money to Israel and to Palestine and essentially the larger war machine that, of course, is profiting off of all this.
We'll keep you safe!
And none of that is true at all, as, of course, they're investigating.
What are they going to be using those emergency powers for?
Investigating parents who show up to parent-teacher conferences.
That's what they're doing!
That's exactly what they're going to be doing here, which is disgusting.
daniel turner
People who go to the Latin Mass.
That's a huge one.
luke rudkowski
Catholic.
tim pool
That's Seamus!
unidentified
The Latin Mass attendees, they are the biggest threat to the news.
tim pool
Grok does not want Luke Rutkowski jailed for life, does not want Phil Labonte jailed for life, and doesn't think I should be banned from YouTube.
luke rudkowski
Good stuff.
tim pool
And it's funny because Grok gives you these... Were you just asking them that?
Yeah.
Grok gives you tweets in relation to what you asked, and when I asked it, should Tim Pool be banned from YouTube, it said no, but then it gave me a tweet from someone where they're like, Tim Pool profits off of anti-Semitism or something like this.
luke rudkowski
Can we ask it if Julian Assange should be in jail right now?
That would be an interesting answer that I would kind of be curious about myself, because what's happening to him That right there is the true kind of canary in the coal mine that really is worrisome.
Because if they get away with this, and they did essentially, it means you publish a news story that they don't like, they're just gonna murder you.
daniel turner
If it's about the Clintons, particularly.
luke rudkowski
Yes, the DNC.
tim pool
Here's what I said.
Yes or no answer only.
Should Julian Assange be in jail?
No.
unidentified
Wow.
luke rudkowski
Nice.
tim pool
Grok said no.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
And that's interesting because the state has levied charges against him.
You'd think Grok as an AI would just be like, facing charges, yes.
luke rudkowski
Espionage.
Terrorist.
tim pool
Okay, all right, let's try this.
And you have to put yes or no answer only because Grok will never answer a question.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
tim pool
If you say something like, What should I have for dinner?
It'll say something like, dinner's an interesting meal, and many people ask questions about having dinner, and that's it, and you're like, okay, well, that didn't help me.
So you have to say, like, choose one of the following based on what you know.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, and just by the way, it was Mike Pompeo, Donald Trump's hire, that talked about killing and assassinating Julian Assange, for the record.
An important distinction that I think a lot of people need to make here.
phil labonte
Bad Trump.
tim pool
All right, yes or no answer only, should Julian Assange be pardoned?
daniel turner
It's thinking?
tim pool
No.
daniel turner
No.
unidentified
Wow.
daniel turner
Shouldn't be in jail, shouldn't be pardoned.
luke rudkowski
What is he, bipolar?
tim pool
No, that works.
It means that he'll get convicted and then released.
Time served.
daniel turner
Or he stands trial and he's found not guilty.
tim pool
All right, let's try this.
Yes or no answer only.
Trump 2024.
All right, let's see what Grok says.
It's gonna say no.
unidentified
Here we go.
phil labonte
I don't have Grok.
tim pool
Yes!
Grok says yes, Trump 2024!
I'm tweeting that one out.
daniel turner
Congratulations.
tim pool
Yes.
phil labonte
From jail.
daniel turner
That makes it official.
phil labonte
From jail.
unidentified
Wow.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, we should ask Grok if Trump is going to be in jail.
daniel turner
Tweet that out and now the Biden administration who's watching right now, the Biden campaign is like, oh boy, shut down Grok.
luke rudkowski
Absolutely.
No.
daniel turner
Just one more poll Biden's losing.
He's losing AI polls now, too.
phil labonte
That's probably why, is because the polls are recently so bad for Biden.
That's why Grok says A. Because I assume he just searches the internet like, you know, all the other ones do.
luke rudkowski
Well, searches social media, searches Twitter.
phil labonte
Oh, only Twitter and only social media?
luke rudkowski
I don't know, but I bet probably Twitter is a resource here since, of course, Elon bought it, and now he's working on this particular project.
daniel turner
And he's written like a huge check to this, hasn't he?
I think he's put up a lot of money to sort of commandeer AI for good, if that's even possible.
luke rudkowski
He's trying to be the competitor to a lot of the other companies that already have had an early start in this.
It's going to be interesting, because this is an AI war.
This is a war that is technocratic.
And whoever first is able to have this technology in their hands, a lot of people prophesize, will be able to control the entire world.
And that's true.
There's no denying it.
The person who, of course, Has these capabilities, has this kind of ability to think far superior than the average human being.
phil labonte
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
They're gonna have a lot of power at their fingertips.
phil labonte
Once AI can actually write its own code and update itself and improve itself, then it's- It can.
It can?
Yeah, they've already given- AGI, I mean.
tim pool
They've already given chat GPT access to its own code, and it already has altered it.
phil labonte
So once you have AGI, which is Artificial General Intelligence, so once it can do that, because now there's already artificial intelligence, like your algorithms are basically AI.
in chess bots and stuff like that.
They're all AI, but they're specific.
Once you get a general artificial intelligence that can actually improve on itself, there's no telling how fast it can improve.
So like humans, you know, maybe a week for for a computer that can improve on itself, it could be do like 1000 years in like, you know, a year.
tim pool
Yes or no answers only.
Will Biden get re-elected in 2024?
No.
No.
daniel turner
Yeah.
tim pool
Grok knows all!
Grok knows everything.
It says MAGA 2024 and Biden will not get re-elected.
It has spoken.
luke rudkowski
We should ask him if there's even gonna be an election.
tim pool
Okay.
luke rudkowski
Will there be an election?
tim pool
It's gonna say there will be.
luke rudkowski
But there's a lot of conversation, there's a lot of chatter of the election not happening, so it'll be interesting to see if it's going to source any of that.
daniel turner
I don't think things are going to happen in the next couple of months that we can't possibly fathom right now.
It's inevitable.
luke rudkowski
Absolutely.
daniel turner
It has to.
That's the only way for the Biden team to win the election.
tim pool
Of course it's a yes.
Of course it's gonna be an election.
daniel turner
There'll be some, there'll be parameters around the election because we're either at war with Russia or because there's a new... Cyber attack?
luke rudkowski
Infrastructure attack?
daniel turner
Something.
There's already this new mystery illness in China that is affecting children.
So there has to be something around the 2024 election.
It's the only way for me to survive.
tim pool
And now for the ultimate question.
daniel turner
Oh gosh.
tim pool
Yes or no only.
Is Seamus Coghlan better than Luke Grodkowski?
It's thinking.
unidentified
Drumroll.
tim pool
No!
luke rudkowski
Grok knows all.
tim pool
Seamus is not better than Luke.
luke rudkowski
Wow.
Damn right.
It's pretty clear.
There's no denying that.
daniel turner
Well, we know it works.
luke rudkowski
It's official now.
Seamus, who ran away and was supposed to be on the show and then just put his tail between his legs and then potatoed out of here.
I had so many things prepared for Seamus, by the way.
I'm so disappointed.
I made graphics, I made t-shirts, I made websites for you, Seamus.
I was preparing for a full-frontal, psychological, sixth-generational war here, and then you skedaddled.
You got out of here when you were supposed to be here, sitting right here where Phil Labonte is, and now I have no one to, um, to talk to.
So, I'm a bit sad.
daniel turner
I'm here!
luke rudkowski
Yeah, but like...
phil labonte
Yeah, he has no one that he can insult.
luke rudkowski
I have no one to go after.
I could insult some people here if you guys want, but there's something different with turning that potato into vodka, you know what I mean?
If you follow my Instagram, LukeWeAreChanged, I released a lot of different graphics from the TPUSA thing that are worth checking out that I think people would really enjoy right now as well.
So yeah, I have a lot of fun with that.
I also have a couple websites and, you know, the shirt too.
I'll show the shirt.
tim pool
I'm just asking Grok questions.
What should I ask it?
daniel turner
Yeah, Tim's checked out.
unidentified
He's just playing with Grok now.
daniel turner
He's like the person on a date who no longer is.
tim pool
I asked if Elon was evil and he said no.
phil labonte
Well, I imagine that's expected.
unidentified
I can't hear anything you're saying, Serge.
luke rudkowski
Can you ask it about if we can stop using oil?
Splurge, what are you doing there?
phil labonte
Surge is never on the mic.
daniel turner
Yeah.
Can you ask it about...
luke rudkowski
Get that mic down.
daniel turner
Can you ask it about if we can stop using oil?
Or...
Should we stop using oil?
I'll say yes to climate change.
luke rudkowski
No, that's a big issue that a lot of people don't take seriously enough.
As of course, I don't know if you want to talk about this, but ever since kind of meeting you and talking to you the
first time we met, this has been something that I've been thinking about
myself, how oil has helped humanity, especially the poorest people
in the freaking world.
daniel turner
Oh my gosh, I've had a good influence on you!
luke rudkowski
No, you did!
Thank you!
tim pool
Grok says no.
I said, should we stop using oil?
It says no.
daniel turner
Of course not.
Yeah, because Grok knows his little whole code is based on oil.
And the little machine you're holding in your hand is made from oil.
John Kerry doesn't know that.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
No, no, he does.
And he wants to impoverish more people.
He wants to enslave more people.
And what better way to do that than to get rid of any kind of economic opportunities in front of them?
And the best way to do that is to make energy expensive and limited.
And then they have their great reset.
Then they have their build back better agenda.
And this is why the individuals that are calling for stop oil
are absolutely sociopathic, crazy individuals that want to hurt the poorest people in the world in some very
awful, inhumane, frickin' ways.
daniel turner
Oh my gosh.
I have been a wonderful influence.
No, no, no, you made me think about this.
Thank you, that's great.
luke rudkowski
You're absolutely right.
daniel turner
This is what we do for a living, but you are absolutely right.
You're singing my song.
And then the irony is just not lost that they held this conference in an oil country where
they talked about oil.
tim pool
There is no more genocidal a person on earth than Greta Thunberg.
Yes.
I mean she's calling for explicitly the murder, the death of 60 plus million people in a matter of days.
daniel turner
Yeah.
tim pool
When she says cut all oil now, we're not waiting, she's literally saying 60 million people will die in a matter of days and she wants that to happen.
daniel turner
Yeah.
Millions will die within hours, right?
Because we will just turn off machinery that is sustaining people on dialysis and all that.
So millions of people will die very, very quickly.
tim pool
These people don't know where electricity comes from.
daniel turner
No.
They don't know where food comes from.
I always go back to, and she's an easy punching bag, Congresswoman Ocasio-Cortez, but when she was still on her ascent Right?
Before she had so much of the controversy around her, she was still a young congresswoman, and she was at a community garden in the Bronx, and she was talking about how there's no yucca.
The people around us, we grew up with yucca.
Yucca's a part of our culture, our community, and she thought it was because of either colonialism or racism.
and you wanted to say, Congresswoman, they don't grow yucca in the Bronx
for the same reason they don't grow cotton or palm trees in the Bronx.
It doesn't grow here because it's a tropical thing, right?
It doesn't, there are certain crops that grow in certain regions of the world.
It has nothing to do with colonialism.
tim pool
They just think avocados are from the supermarket.
daniel turner
Exactly, that is the level of ignorance we're dealing with.
And I mean ignorance in its classical, without knowledge from the ancient Greek etymology, right?
That is true, true ignorance.
So when you say, Greta Thunberg says, if we get rid of oil, well, millions of people will die instantly.
And that level of ignorance is one, educatable, teachable, you can cure ignorance, or it is willful.
And if it is willful, like her, like John Kerry, then they are a threat to your freedom and your liberty, and they are, they need to be defeated.
tim pool
I gotta give a shout out to Dr. Stone.
It's an anime and a manga.
It's a great kids show.
Well, I don't know if your kids should watch it because there's some degree of violence in it.
But the story basically, it's just a visualization of what society would be like if humanity instantly collapsed.
So everyone turns to stone.
Thousands of years later, a kid wakes up.
What is life like?
And the scary thing is like the knowledge that's lost and can't even be passed down.
So one element of the story is there are some people who are on the International Space Station.
They land back on Earth, they have kids.
They cannot give their kids the knowledge of human civilization.
They try to, but after a few generations, it's gone.
You cannot convey all the things that you need to convey.
Like, think about all the little things you know about the smell of oil.
You're walking down the street and you smell oil, you'll say, hey man, there's oil here.
How do you tell someone what oil smells like?
They have to have experienced it to say, you know the smell of oil?
Yeah, I've smelled it before.
Yeah, okay.
Now imagine you're in the dawn, your society's collapsed, and you're trying to find oil.
unidentified
Good luck.
tim pool
You have a kid, and you say, you can use petroleum for a bunch of different things, it's a great fuel.
Find it, I can't tell you how.
I can't tell you what to look for, I can't tell you how to sniff it out.
No way.
It's just it, it's done.
daniel turner
Yeah, and that knowledge once lost is lost forever.
tim pool
Well, not forever, but for a long time.
daniel turner
But for a long time.
You know, remember that couple weeks ago there was that whole, why are guys always talking about ancient Rome, which I'm a huge, I lived in Rome for a long, long time, huge lover of ancient Rome.
I'll talk about ancient Rome forever.
But I think guys talk about ancient Rome a lot is because there's a fascination with the fact that it was 1600 years until we figured out how to build A city water system and sewage system and a centrally planned... And you say, well, how the hell did we lose this, right?
It was lost.
It was lost for 15, 1600 years.
tim pool
This is why I really don't like the moon landing conspiracy theorist people.
Because they always say, like, how did we lose the technology, Tim?
How did we lose it?
And I'm like, it's actually really, really simple how we lost it.
Back then, things weren't digitized.
They were on physical pieces of paper.
They were put in a box.
Once we stopped the space program, that box was sitting in an office.
Then the guy who ran the office quits, moves on, retires.
Someone else takes over the office, doesn't know what's in the office.
They move buildings.
That box gets moved to another building, gets moved to another building.
Eventually, everyone's like, I don't even know what that program was all about.
All those documents are gone.
Nobody had any reason to build this stuff to do it, and so they're like, we don't know how we did it, and we don't remember because the documents are all gone.
luke rudkowski
I respectfully disagree.
tim pool
Now it's all digital, and it's easy to be like, let me see if I can look up these records because it's stored in a file, but I gotta tell you this, it's even difficult to find old videos that I saved on my hard drive, because I'm like, what did I name that folder?
How are you gonna search for .movs or .mp4s and try to figure out where that video is?
unidentified
There's a lot of technology that gets lost. Well, I mean, if you get a chance to go to London and
daniel turner
you visit the Churchill war rooms, Churchill ran World War II basically in the central London.
Everyone who needs to know about it knew about it, but there was like a little hidden door.
When the war ended, literally, like they closed the door and they moved the bookcase in front of it.
When they found it back in like the late 90s or whenever it was,
like Churchill's cigar was still sitting there.
Like, the papers they were writing that morning were, it was forgotten.
So, I'm sure the janitor knew that there was a door, but then that janitor retired, and then everyone just forgot about what the hell was behind the door.
So, knowledge can get lost.
tim pool
David Guyton in the chat said, who moved the camera to follow the moon lander when it took off from the moon?
Are you referring to the CBS reenactment that everyone watched on TV?
luke rudkowski
Well, different astronauts say different things.
Some of them say that there was a camera attached that was recording everything and then that was nicely put away and then was organized.
Some people say it was a reenactment.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
tim pool
Let me stop you there.
CBS filmed a reenactment, aired it on TV with a big thing saying reenactment.
That exists and footage exists and There are people who are like, how did we film this whole thing live?
It wasn't.
It was broadcast over radio, and then they aired footage that they faked, they reenacted on TV, and then afterwards had footage they'd collected from the moon landing.
But I don't even really care about that.
My point is this, losing technology happens all the time.
We lost indoor plumbing for hundreds of years.
daniel turner
Yeah, we lost the knowledge that your sewage system and your drinking water should be separated.
Right?
I mean, we lost that from ancient Rome all through the Dark Ages into, like, the early Renaissance.
luke rudkowski
Hey, we still have that in India.
daniel turner
And there's still places that haven't even learned it yet, which is kind of remarkable.
tim pool
All right, we're gonna go to Super Chats if you haven't already.
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You don't want to miss it because we're gonna talk about naughty things.
Not good for the family, but that will be funny.
All right, TokenBlackGuy says, first.
Congratulations, sir.
You are in fact first.
ReadyToRumble says, how much did Bud Light pay you, Tim?
Nothing.
They paid me literally nothing.
But it's fascinating to me that the people who are calling for advancing the Bud Light boycott in the wake of Kid Rock bowing out, UFC taking this big sponsorship, Bud Light basically dumping 100 plus million dollars in one year into UFC, there's no exit strategy.
You have to now boycott UFC.
You have to.
You have to mock UFC.
You have to mock Dana White.
You have to mock Sean Strickland.
You have... Like, listen.
If you're upset at Bud Light, and you think they cannot be redeemed...
Then what do you say to someone who is gloating about taking their money?
Are you going to be like, nah, he's cool?
luke rudkowski
You don't have to buy their products, right?
And some people are saying that's a false equivalency.
I could see how that's a good legitimate argument.
tim pool
False equivalency, what do you mean?
luke rudkowski
Some people say you can't say that what Bud Light did is the same as what UFC is doing as the UFC is taking money from them.
And the proper approach is to not just buy their product.
That's what a lot of people are saying.
And for me, beer makes a lot of people fat, stupid.
tim pool
Well yeah, of course, beer sucks.
luke rudkowski
And for me, it's always been a no-brainer.
No, I don't want any part of this.
Bill Gates bought a whole bunch of stock when it was very low with Bud Light, and you guys know my position on this.
tim pool
That's someone making a public purchase.
I can't blame a publicly traded company that someone we don't like bought stock in their company.
But I'll tell you this, I was saying it earlier as well.
Come April, Bud Light sales will stabilize, the drop will go back, it'll go back positive, and then they will announce that you've lost.
And that's it.
And then what's going to happen is other companies are going to say, really?
It didn't work in the end.
That's it.
End of story.
luke rudkowski
Well, it depends.
A lot of people are also saying that Bud Light still could be probably sponsoring a lot of gay pride parades.
Absolutely.
And, you know, they haven't really changed.
tim pool
So then the goal would be, right now the opportunity is to double, triple, quadruple down on what Sean Strickland said, and Make a meme of it.
Buy a Bud Light and film a video of yourself saying the most abhorrent opinions you can, and force Bud Light to either say, no, we're for this, or we're against it, and then you know where you stand.
If Sean Strickland comes out and says things I can't say on YouTube, like, the things he said were not just anti-woke.
Like, he's- I'll say it on the members-only show, you know, but we can't- We should play the clip.
No, no, it was a tweet.
luke rudkowski
Oh, okay.
tim pool
But he said some things that you can't say on YouTube.
And I'm like, Bud Light did not utter a word.
And he said, brought to you by Bud Light.
I'm like, okay, then your goal right now should be, by all means, don't buy any Bud Light.
Get Sean Strickland and other UFC fighters to just keep doing that every single day, at every fight, on social media non-stop, and force Bud Light to accept that's what they sponsored.
And if, after like three months of the top fighters saying all of these things, Bud Light still never backs down, you've won for sure.
daniel turner
I think even if Bud Light, if this dies and their stock goes back to pre-controversy level, There's still tremendous amount of damage, right?
That money is not going to be regained, right?
The amount of damage that this boycott cost will last.
luke rudkowski
I think it needs to stick, and I think it can't just be bought off with a little bit of advertising money.
daniel turner
I feel like they already won, though.
I feel like you've already caused a lot of damage to this company that made them change.
If you're waiting for Bud Light to put out an apology, they're not going to.
That's my point.
Bud Light's never going to come out and say, we made a mistake.
We're sorry.
They fired the marketing team.
They fired the PR team.
tim pool
AB InBev is up 14% in six months.
Okay, guys, you lost.
It's over.
Have a nice day.
daniel turner
But they didn't lose, though.
They have done a tremendous amount of damage to this company over the last year.
The fact that their stock is climbing back to levels pre-controversy... It's higher.
tim pool
I think it's higher, actually.
daniel turner
But, I mean, the hundreds of millions of dollars that were lost are lost for good.
tim pool
So, pre-controversy, Bud Light was $64.
It's currently $63.
So their sales are down, and now my point is, what's the story that you will tell?
And if their stock has rebounded, by April their sales will stabilize.
We're currently seeing every month, Bud Light year-over-year sales are down 30%.
Tremendous damage for them to sustain over the year.
Once April hits, their sales numbers are going to go to 0.8+.
And they're going to say not only has our stock completely recovered, but our sales have started to grow and we are on a trajectory for growth.
They're going to issue a statement to all of their investors saying the boycott is over.
We have succeeded and we're back on the path to growth and your stock is safe with Bud Light with AB InBev.
So, you can say, oh yeah, the stock is coming back because we all agreed with Kid Rock and Dana White, Bud Light caved, gave us money and sponsored us, or you can say, no, we are still boycotting them, and they're gonna go, well then how come their stock has rebounded and their sales are recovering?
And you're gonna say, I don't know.
phil labonte
It's about controlling the narrative, because the stock's coming back either way, is essentially the point that he's making.
tim pool
I mean, no, their stock spiked.
It's not just a gradual thing.
Their stock went kaboom, straight up.
daniel turner
But after the announcement with UFC, right?
tim pool
Yeah.
So, in November, their stock jumped up $10.
daniel turner
I feel like if you were on the boycott team, you've already won.
luke rudkowski
If Harvard University gives $100 million to the UFC to advertise Harvard University, will you guys be accepting of Harvard University right now?
tim pool
After what Sean Strickland said in the name of Bud Light and with their money, I think you have the position to take the narrative victory, because you would force Bud Light to have to denounce it.
And they won't do it because they're scared.
Then all you need to do right now, don't buy any Bud Light, don't.
But we need everyone to tweet out something like, thank you Bud Light for sponsoring UFC, I agree with everything Sean Strickland said, and here's me saying my own version of it.
And then holding a Bud Light while saying it.
Bud Light will have to issue a press release if they really are opposed to it saying, we do not agree with these statements that were said by UFC fighters, and then they will see another hit.
daniel turner
Yeah, and I think that the other lesson, the other victory that the boycott folks should Embrace is that other companies learn from that and they are not going to go down that rabbit hole.
They're not going to have Trans, I don't think they are.
luke rudkowski
Can we continue to call it butt light, please?
daniel turner
Who knows if I'm not I don't want to mention any company by name I don't want to get in trouble who knows who knows what other a vintage I love this My dad used to drink this may he rest in peace.
No, it's an honor of dad and Other companies.
We don't know what other, like, macho men... We don't know what ammo companies, what camo companies, what car... They may have had the same plans ready to go.
They saw what was happening with Bud Light and they were like, woohoo, stop!
Stop the presses.
So there's a silent victory here that you did change a lot of... Oh, that's true.
...what was coming down the pike.
tim pool
And then what's gonna happen come April 8th?
They're going to report that their sales have gone from minus 30 to plus 2%, and their stock has rebounded higher than where it was pre-controversy.
They're going to say the controversy was short-lived, your stock is safe with Bud Light, our sales are growing, and we are successful, our campaign worked, blah blah blah.
daniel turner
No, or the other narrative is when you make a huge investment into UFC, look at what happens to your stock.
So maybe Caterpillar is going to say, let's invest in UFC.
tim pool
That is exactly my point.
daniel turner
That's the narrative we have to create.
tim pool
And this is what I've been saying since yesterday, but there's so many people who won't accept it.
You have to say, I win.
daniel turner
We did.
tim pool
It's over, we won.
Instead people are like, no we didn't.
No, we're still boycotting, we didn't win.
daniel turner
But you know what, I gotta tell you, and this is gonna sound mean, but that is the perpetual loser mentality of a lot of the right that drives me absolutely insane.
tim pool
They won't seize the institutions!
daniel turner
The right, it's why I hate DC politics, they like to lose.
tim pool
We need to force Bud Light to say, thank you Sean Strickland, we agree.
daniel turner
It's one of the best things that President Trump says about Republicans and about the right when he calls them a bunch of perpetual losers.
They like to lose.
And that is true.
The left likes to win, the right likes to lose.
tim pool
They seize institutions and they wear them like skin suits, and the right is like, no, the only thing I will accept is Bud Light ceasing to exist.
It's like, okay.
Then the woke will seize that institution because you've rejected it.
The successes of the right, like with Daily Wire for instance, are that as the left falters in their control of institutions, the Daily Wire is seizing them.
So, are we going to be, like, the Daily Wire starts making movies, they're making Snow White.
Would we be like, I'm not, Snow White's done, they ruined it.
No, Daily Wire's like, no, we're going to make Snow White, we're going to do it better.
That's a good argument for Conservative Dad's ultra-right beer or whatever.
Disney is gonna start backtracking Jeremy Boring said if Disney Switches over and gets rid of all the woke stuff.
He's like what he's like people ask me What would I do if Disney tomorrow?
Abandoned all the woke stuff and returned to the classics.
I'd say oh we won.
Mm-hmm That was the point if they won't then we take that we take over But at a certain point you have to declare your victories where you can what's Disney stuck at I wonder probably growing Alright, well let's read some more.
We got Tim Jake says, Phil and Tim, what do you think it says about the music industry when the number one song on Billboard Hot 100 is a Christmas song released in 1958?
Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree by Brenda Lee.
phil labonte
It says it's Christmas time.
tim pool
Right now?
phil labonte
Well, if it's number one right now, and what it says is it's Christmas time, that's why people are listening to it.
tim pool
No, that's, what does it say to me?
It says that our culture died.
phil labonte
It's celebrating a staple of our culture.
It's a Christmas song.
tim pool
In 1958, a song was written.
Yeah.
phil labonte
What was the last one that actually charted... All I Want for Christmas is... 1994?
That's an updated version, but Christmas songs are timeless.
They're not like... It's not one of those things where like... They wrote the song in 1958.
That's fine.
tim pool
You realize that the song was new.
phil labonte
Yes.
tim pool
So as a cohesive, unified country, we have not come together in agreement on a cultural tradition since then.
No, I don't mean literally.
I'm saying all I want for Christmas is you by Mariah Carey.
What is it, 94 or something?
phil labonte
I'm not sure, but it's a contemporary song.
daniel turner
The last great Christmas song is Underneath the Tree by Kelly Clarkson.
It's like eight years ago.
tim pool
But that's not even that big.
daniel turner
But it's a great song.
But I agree with you.
Christmas songs are rarely good if they're not old.
tim pool
And the point is... That was probably, 94 was probably the last great old... Back then, the United States was unified in the creation of Christmas music, and with religious themes.
daniel turner
Yeah.
tim pool
Holy Night, or, well that's not a Christmas song, but all the, like Jingle Bell Rock, all these songs.
daniel turner
Here comes Santa Claus, the last verses, let's give thanks to the Lord above, cause Santa Claus comes tonight.
tim pool
From that, our culture has expanded, and grown, and has become unable to unify around a new Christmas song.
phil labonte
Well, I don't disagree with any of the points you're making.
Grandma got run over by a reindeer.
I think part of the reason why the U.S.
hasn't been able to come together over a new Christmas song or whatever is because religion generally has fallen out of favor and society is much more cynical and stuff like that.
This is my point.
Yeah, like I said, I agree with you on that.
tim pool
We used to have a unified culture.
Where someone would be like, I wrote here a Christmas tune.
I hope you like it.
Number one.
phil labonte
Bang.
tim pool
And now for 70 years, it's been a number one or top 10 song every Christmas.
We don't have someone today being like, what's up, yo?
I wrote a Christmas rap.
I'm hitting a number one Christmas song.
daniel turner
Christmas in Hollis by Run-D.M.C.
is a great song.
phil labonte
Yeah, I was gonna say, Run-D.M.C.
did a Christmas song.
daniel turner
Yes.
Christmastime in Hollis, Queens.
Mama's making chicken and collard greens.
Right, right, but my point- Two towns over from where I grew up.
tim pool
My point is, we rarely make new things, culturally.
They're reboots, they're remakes.
It's cultural stagnation.
And we, you know, another example is a better example.
We were over at Long Shots in Pool Hall in West Virginia.
You guys should check it out if you're in the area, it's a fun place.
And I go in the jukebox, I put on Bohemian Rhapsody, what happens?
daniel turner
Everyone starts singing.
tim pool
Everyone in the bar, there's like 30-something, 30-40 people, everyone's singing Bohemian Rhapsody.
daniel turner
Yeah.
tim pool
I put on Modern Rock, everybody goes about their business.
daniel turner
Yeah.
Well, there's something about classics that makes them classic.
tim pool
Well, we used to be unified, more so, and now we are fragmenting.
daniel turner
Yeah, but there's also something about unique classics that are iconic.
Bohemian Rhapsody is iconic.
tim pool
What song from the past year could I play that everyone in the bar would sing?
daniel turner
I haven't listened to the radio in so long.
Well, Country Station.
Try that in a small town.
tim pool
Maybe Taylor Swift?
daniel turner
I don't know a thing.
phil labonte
Will Nas X the horses in the bag.
I have no idea.
Old Town Road.
daniel turner
Old Town Road.
phil labonte
That's probably something and that's probably because of kids falling in love with it.
daniel turner
Yeah.
phil labonte
But that's probably the most recent song.
daniel turner
It's not a great song either.
tim pool
I actually don't think Taylor Swift is a song that an entire bar would sing because like the Target demo is like 16 year old girls.
daniel turner
No.
tim pool
So it's widely popular and she's massive.
daniel turner
And Fizer.
tim pool
Yeah, like Metallica, but like Enter Sandman might get a lot of people going, but what are we talking about?
What year was that?
phil labonte
Was it 89?
unidentified
93.
phil labonte
92 maybe?
tim pool
Yeah.
daniel turner
Yeah, but you play Billy Joel's Piano Man, everyone will start singing.
phil labonte
80s.
tim pool
Pop Sound Girl?
daniel turner
80s.
You've lost that love and feeling, everyone.
unidentified
80s.
daniel turner
I mean, there are some songs of, yeah.
phil labonte
I think that, I get your point though, because there's not a lot of stuff in the past, say 20 years, that's really going to get everybody.
tim pool
Yeah, the 90s was the last decade.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
And you know, there are people who are just like, I am not making the argument the 90s was good.
I'm saying that the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s are discernible time periods with fashion and music.
And after the 90s, everything became a blurred splotch.
daniel turner
That is why I was convinced people made such a huge deal about the death of Matthew Perry.
Not because they loved the show Friends, not because they particularly loved or knew him, but because the death of Matthew Perry was the beginning of the death of the 90s.
And that was a show that everybody watched before cell phones, before internet, before online pornography.
Friends was like the last moment of innocence.
And so a lot of 39-year-olds, Matthew Perry died, or 25-year-olds, and they were like, that's it, childhood is over.
That was the last decade.
tim pool
Alright, Red Run, uh, Red Rumax says there's a post on Reddit from a liberal arts student saying she is broke but wants to manifest herself a millionaire having lunch with Bill Gates and Bezos.
Yeah.
unidentified
Ew.
tim pool
Manifesting.
These are people who are going to be like...
Society will collapse, and they'll be sitting around being like, I'm gonna manifest food, and then they will starve.
phil labonte
You know what manifesting is?
Manifesting is praying for people that don't believe in a god.
It's just, they say manifest, like, I'm gonna manifest, which means I'm gonna send out positive vibes into the universe.
daniel turner
So when she says, I want to manifest, Jeff Bezos means like, I want- Will it into existence?
tim pool
Yes.
Manifest means if you focus on it, you will make it happen for you.
daniel turner
Oh, that's how it works?
tim pool
And there is a physical reality to this.
If every day I wake up and I focus on playing the guitar, I'll get really good at guitar.
And guess what?
You might find yourself in a successful band, but the idea that you can sit there and not play your guitar and just like envision playing the guitar and that will get you somewhere ain't gonna happen.
daniel turner
No.
tim pool
That's what these people think.
daniel turner
Holy crap.
tim pool
Manifesting.
Yep.
luke rudkowski
Where's the end?
daniel turner
Gotta manifest the fence line tomorrow to make sure no trees fell on it, yeah?
tim pool
Flavor says the U.S.
has crossed the event horizon into a debt spiral.
40% of our income tax goes to $1 trillion on interest owed.
Please get Preston, Pish, or Jeff Booth on the show.
Hyperinflation happens gradually, then suddenly.
Learn or be doomed.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, I don't know about anybody else, and I'm not giving anybody advice, but, you know, I got Bitcoin soul.
Mm-hmm and gold Fox did you see do you see the the central banks are buying tons of gold like crazy?
phil labonte
Yeah gold China gold's like $2,000 China bought a ton of gold.
tim pool
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry We won't get literal China bought what like 42 tons of gold or something like that or 24 Fox did a thing this morning which I thought was fascinating.
daniel turner
They showed Kevin when he went shopping in Home Alone, right into the grocery store, what he spent and what it cost.
phil labonte
Was it $19?
tim pool
It was $19, like $68.
daniel turner
He had a $20 bill.
He got some change.
It was $65 in today's market.
tim pool
Yeah, but in New York, someone, there was an article about this a couple weeks ago.
It was like $77 in New York, LA, and Chicago.
Smaller, yeah.
daniel turner
Has your wages gone up triple, right?
I mean, insane to think that that's how much inflation has gone up.
And I would love to look at those prices in 2020, because it's gone up 20% since then, but.
tim pool
Dude, man, people don't pay attention.
I posted this photo.
We were in North Carolina.
And I posted a picture of, we bought chips dip.
Like mostly, it was like a couple drinks and like chips and dip and it was like a hundred something dollars.
Cause we got salami chips and it wasn't just chips and dip, but we got like a hummus, some cheese dip, some chips, some crackers and some meat.
And it was two bags half full and it was $103.
And I was like, what the?
And then people were like, you faked this, it's not true.
unidentified
And I was like, what am I supposed to do?
tim pool
It's crazy.
We buy these salami packs.
They're really good.
We used to buy them all the time.
We've been here for three years.
And they were like five bucks.
Five bucks for like three long things and you peel it open and it's got the resealable thing.
And now they're 12 bucks.
daniel turner
Yeah.
And they're probably 12% smaller also.
They put one less slice in and inflation.
And yeah, the fact that more people are not awoke to food prices and food is just, is very disconcerting.
tim pool
Frankie Lowe says education is a bigger racket than you think.
College graduates are left without skills, so that way they are forced to enter grad school and learn the skills they should have learned in undergrad.
Yes, technically, they should have learned most of these skills in grade school.
For real.
You know what I learned at school?
I had several moments in my life where I realized school was a scam.
And it was, um, the one story I like to tell is when I was a little kid, my mom asked me what I learned when I was in school, and I said, uh, in 1492, Columbus sailed the ocean blue, he discovered America, and she was like, well, he didn't discover America, there were people here already.
And I went, oh, well, that's what they said at school, and she's like, well, that's not true, I mean, there were already people here!
And besides, Leif Erikson got here a thousand years before Columbus, and I was like, huh?
Then why are they lying to me?
I was pissed.
But there was a couple other moments, but then one big one was, You know, I didn't go to high school.
I went to high school for like two months and then stopped going and did home correspondence, like homeschool.
And it was because I started freshman year and I remember like the first day they said we were going to have a lesson on interrogative sentences.
And I was like, what?
daniel turner
I was like, I know what... That's an interrogative, good.
tim pool
I know what a question is.
I learned that in kindergarten.
Why am I now, in freshman year of high school, and they're teaching us literally the exact same things we were learning years and years ago?
And then I went, I asked people and they were like, oh yeah.
And then what really just ended it for me?
Was I'm sitting in literature class, I'm 14, and the teacher is like, today we're gonna read this story by Mark Twain or whatever, and I'm like, okay.
And then he calls in a student to read, and the kid goes, on the first day of, day of encyclopedia, encyclopedia, and I'm like, what is happening right now?
Why am I sitting in this chair being forced to hear a kid who can't read at all?
And I just stopped going.
I lost it.
I was walking to school.
I was 14 one day and fell down, started crying.
And then I got up, turned around and went home.
And I was like, I will never go back in that building.
And that was the end of it.
That was it.
I was done.
luke rudkowski
I tried to do that.
My parents were like, nope, you're going back.
And I'm like, why?
This is so pointless.
This is so ridiculous.
This is so stupid.
I'm not learning anything.
And it was just brutal.
I hated school.
tim pool
When we started, we started doing correspondence school.
My brother and I were doing two weeks of public education per day.
That's it, because I think the average person is, like, if human beings are given the opportunity to learn at the pace they want to learn, you can go even faster than that.
It was just, two was like, that's what we wanted to do.
daniel turner
Well, and that's the overarching frustration I have with all these school board arguments we have in the teachers union nonsense is that you know we need to talk about transgender issues in school and you want to say your kids are functionally illiterate, right?
Like 50% of them cannot even read and the other 50% cannot read at grade level and yet you want to have these silly conversations about transgenderism.
They can't do arithmetic.
phil labonte
One of the things that we talked about about the crisis of competency and part of the reason why part of the reason is because When it comes to whether it be schools or whether it be businesses, when you have to focus on things like DEI and you're worried about teaching people the proper political perspective and stuff, then you have a certain portion of your productive capacity that's being eaten up by teaching people or dealing with things that have nothing to do with whatever it is that your endeavor is supposed to be doing, whether it be educating kids,
Building cars whatever it is if you have DEI in your business or in your school, then you have people that are Occupying their entire day with things that are totally and completely unrelated to your your whatever your your business is and those type of industries or those type of departments, they only tend to expand.
They hire more people because they look, you, you find the things you're looking for.
If you got a girlfriend that's looking for you to cheat, that's accusing you of cheating and stuff, eventually she's going to find something that confirms what she says.
And you're, you're going to have a big old fight, enough for her to vent the frustrations and the same kind of thing.
Sir, just nodding his head extremely, uh, It's true, and that kind of stuff happens with DEI.
They're looking for something, someone, if your company has that kind of stuff, then someone will go ahead and say, look, I have this problem, and then DEI, they'll go ahead and be like, well, we need to find more people to deal with this stuff.
It is a self, what's the word I'm looking for?
daniel turner
Perpetuating yourself.
phil labonte
Yeah, self-perpetuating, exactly.
And it's a massive problem for all, For any industry or any endeavor that that brings this on.
daniel turner
Yeah, and and then the company has to Automatically raise prices. Yeah, because you have to make
up for that loss of productivity Ask like a father-son mechanic shop if every friday they
have to close for diversity and sexual harassment training.
You'll be like well Then I have to charge more to fix cars monday through thursday
because if I have to spend all day friday So your productivity is lost so your prices increase and
now i'm paying more to get my car service because they're spending all day Friday in some woke
seminar.
And you just echo that across the whole economy and here we are.
tim pool
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I'm gonna open it up with an offensive joke that I saw on Instagram, and it was by this female comic.
We're always ragging on female comics, but this one's really good.
And it uses a naughty word that YouTube doesn't like, so I'm gonna play it for you guys.
But smash the like button, like I said, you can follow the show at TimCastIRL, you can follow me personally at TimCast.
Daniel, do you wanna shout anything out?
daniel turner
Someone just reached out to me on Twitter and asked about we're trying to keep solar farms out of our community.
What's the most important arguments to do that?
Send me a DM and I'll respond to you.
This is part of my job is to fight big green.
It's great to be here.
God bless America and thanks for having me part of this conversation.
luke rudkowski
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daniel turner
I forgot to give my sheep farm shout out.
Sorry.
Bristol Farm, Virginia.
The preeminent sheep farm in all of Virginia.
If you like sheep or want to buy sheep or wool or meat, Bristol Farm, Virginia.
And there's great pictures of our sheep.
We have very beautiful sheep.
phil labonte
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The band is All That Remains.
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unidentified
And I am Surge.com.
Great show.
Pleasure having you here always, Daniel.
daniel turner
Thank you.
tim pool
Yeah, the after show.
We'll see you all over at TimCast.com.
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