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Dec. 14, 2023 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - Biden Impeachment Inquiry PASSES, Impeachment HAS BEGUN After GOP Vote w/Seth Weathers
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tim pool
Wow, today certainly was pretty wild as the evening picked up.
So, the House has voted to formalize the impeachment inquiry.
Impeachment is on.
Hunter Biden defied his subpoena, and the GOP says they're going to hold him in contempt.
He gave a speech instead.
The judge has suspended, in Trump's election interference case, suspended it pending a result in the hearing as to whether or not Trump's immune.
SCOTUS has granted cert to the obstruction charge in the J6 cases.
It's been an absolutely wild day.
And, uh, man, we got so much to talk about.
Tucker Carlson has joined Rumble.
Oh boy, man.
So I guess we're gonna get into all of that.
Plus, big debate on the Bud Light question.
And we've got one of the best people in the world here with us to talk about all that.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and beer is Seth Weathers.
seth weathers
I just downloaded and paid 69 cents for the song on Amazon.
tim pool
Alright, let's go!
seth weathers
I feel like I'm part of it all.
Great to be here.
It's definitely a good day to be here with everything going on in the beer world.
We've got some calendars.
We've got a lot of exciting stuff happening.
tim pool
You're the beer guy.
You're the guy who, when Bud Light came out and did this whole Dome of Anything, you said, You know, we're gonna make our own beer.
As we should.
And, uh, I gotta be honest, everybody here is such a fan of your beer.
You asked me if we had any, and I'm like, dude, if you bring like ten cases, they'll be gone in a week.
seth weathers
Pretty sure you had half a pallet, but we'll send you more.
tim pool
I think we did.
Well, it's like, it's good.
And people, uh, like hanging out after work or whatever, having a beer, and it's just instantly gone.
So we were actually debating a little bit about what's going on with the Bud Light stuff, but I think, I would defer to you as someone who actually knows how to ship sell and deal with beer, and you actually have a calendar of conservative beautiful women that you just put out.
So I'll save it for the show, but I mean, you've also done other things in the past with wrapping paper.
seth weathers
Right, right.
I'm all beer all the time now.
It's a lot.
It's a heavy regulation business, but there's a huge market for, again, it's parallel economy stuff.
And like, why are we giving money to companies that hate us?
And they're taking our hard-earned money and they're putting it into causes that we hate.
And so I just sit there and say, look, there's, we can't do that with every single product.
Look, my house is filled with products made in communist China.
I don't want that, but there's a lot of, not a lot of options.
There is now an option for an American made beer and American owned beer as well.
tim pool
Let's go!
Alright man, thanks for hanging out.
We got Luke Rudkowski as well.
luke rudkowski
Is it real women or modern women in the calendar?
seth weathers
It is real, underlined, real, underlined women of America.
luke rudkowski
I'm looking forward to that.
seth weathers
It would be very clear.
tim pool
Some of the names people would know, like Riley Gaines.
seth weathers
Riley Gaines, Kim Klesik, Dana Lash.
tim pool
Ashley St.
Clair.
seth weathers
Ashley St.
Clair, Josie the Redheaded Libertarian.
tim pool
Wow, you got everybody.
seth weathers
Yeah, we got all kinds of people in here, so you have to check it out at conservativedad.com.
luke rudkowski
Awesome, cool.
My name is Luke Hradowski.
I'm sorry, go ahead.
seth weathers
Oh no, I was just going to say, 10% from the calendar is going to the Raleigh GAINS Center, which is fighting men and women's sports.
I think we've raised about $20,000 for it so far, and hopefully way more by the time we're done selling it.
luke rudkowski
That's awesome.
My name is Luke Hradowski of YouTube.com forward slash WeAreChange, and a couple months ago we made Satirical Tucker Carlson for president t-shirts when he ... was fired from Fox News and now there's talks of him ... potentially becoming a vice president I think that's a ... great idea if you agree you could get the shirt on the best ... political shirts.com and support my ... independent media organization as of course this ... company started because YouTube demonetized me I also ... have we are change.shop and I think us going into the business world ...
Is where we need to go.
So thank you for doing what you're doing.
Thank you, Tim, for doing what you're doing.
And Ian, what's up with you, man?
ian crossland
You're welcome for me doing what I... Hey, Luke.
Did you guys show this calendar yet?
You want me to show this?
unidentified
I'm not.
I think you should.
ian crossland
This is Riley Gaines on the cover.
It's beautiful.
It's a beautiful cover.
Look at that.
seth weathers
She's like not even Photoshop.
She looks like Photoshop in real life.
ian crossland
Love it.
That's awesome.
And I love, Seth, that you said, how you explained that we need to focus on buying products that are made in America but are also America-owned, because Anheuser-Busch is, it's in St.
Louis, but it's a Belgian-owned company now.
tim pool
Yeah, it was sold to InBev.
ian crossland
And there's people that have contacted me and been like, yo, I work for Anheuser-Busch, I work in America, it's an American thing, and it's like, yeah, but it's not owned, it's a foreign company now, even though it's made in America.
tim pool
Which means a portion of all those sales is going to Europe.
seth weathers
Correct.
Now one thing I would like to say on the show real quick, if you are a chain director and you have a chain director experience in the beverage industry, specifically alcohol, but the beverage industry in general, we are looking for someone.
And that is a hard job to find because you have to have someone that has experience in that.
So I'm going to take this moment to ask that.
If you're a chain director, have that experience, reach out to me on Twitter at Seth Weathers.
If you have no experience in that, I love you, but don't apply.
ian crossland
Oh, you're about to show it.
unidentified
Look at this.
tim pool
I want to give a shout out to this guy.
This is Zenjoy.
ian crossland
It's really good.
luke rudkowski
We met this guy in the street.
We were just in a store and we were like, hey.
tim pool
I was inspired.
We went to a store earlier today and some guy recognized me and asked me if I'd be interested in trying some of his products.
He asked me if I liked tea.
I said I did.
And he said that he sells what he makes is the opposite of an energy drink, a relaxation drink called Zenjoy.
Small business.
He pulls up in his van, he pops up in the back and he's like, I got some drinks, will you try them?
I'm like, bro, I'll buy a case off you right now.
I'm inspired by the entrepreneurial attitude.
He says, I'm hoping to build this business and make it work.
But he said something really great.
He said, You get all these energy drinks, and he's like, I like to give these to firefighters, first responders, police officers, because I know it's a stressful job.
I hope it helps make them relax.
And I was like, bro, you just sold me right away.
So shout out to Zenjoy.
And he was super excited.
I was like, bro, we'll shout you out.
This is awesome.
I really appreciate it.
ian crossland
It's great.
It's got ashwagandha, lemon balm, and L-theanine.
And this has got like a black tea, a little bit of sugar.
And I knew I liked it.
I took a sip, and I was like, oh, that's pretty good.
And then I took, without even realizing it, three more sips.
And I was like, I guess I really like it.
luke rudkowski
Ashwagandha is really great.
It's really powerful, but people should not take it more than for one month.
I sell ashwagandha too, and I tell people, hey, only take it for one month.
Don't take it for more than that because of the scientific kind of benefits and even negatives that you could get from it.
But it's a powerful, beautiful thing.
I sell it.
I love it.
ian crossland
What's the website where people buy yours?
luke rudkowski
WeAreChange.shop.
But I don't want to.
tim pool
I want to shout out this guy for being an entrepreneur and, you know, seeing that dude pop up in the back of his van and be like, I'm hoping to, you know, he's got a bunch, he's got, he's on a bunch of locations.
luke rudkowski
I was like, dude, he was hustling, working himself as the CEO, going store to store to store.
So you gotta, you gotta respect that.
ian crossland
Shake well.
I didn't shake it well, but it still is delicious.
tim pool
Shake well.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
We got surge pressing buttons.
Yeah, happy to see you here, Seth.
unidentified
Always a pleasure.
seth weathers
Great to be back.
I love your hat today.
unidentified
Thanks for wearing the ultra-right hat today.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, let's get to it, Tim.
tim pool
Let's get it.
We got big news, ladies and gentlemen.
House votes to formalize Republican impeachment inquiry into Joe Biden.
I love how they have to put Republican, but technically it would just be the impeachment inquiry because the Republicans have the majority.
The 221 to 212 party line vote opens the door for the GOP to get more evidence about schemes that have seen the Biden family get millions from countries including China, Ukraine, Romania.
And the Bidens will now have more of their bank records, mortgage details, emails, text messages, and mobile phones subpoenaed, along with anything else Congress wants to see.
Since the start of 23, Republicans have been investigating Joe Biden over his alleged connections to his son Hunter's extremely lucrative multi-million dollar influence peddling scheme spanning decades.
With a formal impeachment inquiry vote, Republicans say the White House can no longer stonewall them for requested documents and depositions, but top GOP leaders have argued it wasn't necessary.
You don't need a full vote of the House to do an impeachment inquiry to do the investigation
that we're constitutionally obligated to do.
GOP whip Tom Emmer told the Daily Mail out of the vote.
But this is basically showing there that the Republican Party is investigating Joe Biden.
It is formalized.
They will have more powers.
And this is step one.
This is what we kept we kept arguing about.
They would say like, oh, we're gonna, the impeachment inquiry is coming, it's coming.
We're like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so the story was, Kevin McCarthy vows to hold inquiry into whether or not there should be a vote on whether or not there should be an impeachment inquiry.
And now Kevin McCarthy's gone, and now they've finally formalized the impeachment inquiry process.
So I'll explain it in non-political terms.
They have formally launched a criminal investigation into Joe Biden.
Should they find a preponderance of evidence, they will launch an impeachment, also known as an indictment, or in other words, an indictment.
The indictment leads to a trial, and should Biden be convicted, that will be the conviction in impeachment and the removal from office.
I don't believe that's very likely, but this is the criminal investigation phase of Joe Biden's impeachment process.
ian crossland
I've kind of, I've been sensing it, man.
When Hunter stood in front of, was that this morning or yesterday morning, I think?
unidentified
This morning.
ian crossland
And just refused to answer.
He made a statement and then left.
And then did he leave like a breed?
He avoided his trial?
seth weathers
I will probably have a different opinion on that.
And I hate when Republicans put me in these kind of positions of like, I'm going to have to defend Hunter Biden.
I'm not defending him, but he wanted it to be a public hearing from the way I hear it.
You know what?
If Congress ever hauled my butt in for anything, I want this shit public.
Like, I just really like the idea that for whatever reason they didn't want to have, I understand he's going to grandstand.
He's going to try and make his point, his views, et cetera.
But I think it's fair to say, yeah, if I'm going to be hauled in front of Congress, I want it to be public.
I think that's a fair statement.
I think it's a fair sense.
So why can't the Republicans say, Hey, you know what?
We can handle our own PR for this.
We'll let him come in and say what he wants to say.
And we'll refute it live in front of the public.
ian crossland
I'll be open to that.
But so he refused to do it unless it's public and they're like, Hey, that violates the rules.
You have to do it.
seth weathers
It's not a violation of rules.
It's a violation of what they wanted.
ian crossland
It was this on top of Joe Biden answering reporters' questions.
They were like, hey, what's up with these business deals?
And he's like, you're lying.
You're all lying.
And I'm like, oh, this is coming, man.
I just saw this.
This feels like it's been coming.
I don't think anybody wants him to run as president and he won't let go.
luke rudkowski
I do.
ian crossland
I want him to run.
luke rudkowski
I made Biden-Fetterman t-shirts.
I want Fetterman to be the VP on his ticket there because, you know, obviously it's a no-brainer.
But not just that, but because clearly he is sticking to his guns.
He's saying, I'm not leaving.
Even a couple weeks ago, the Speaker of the House said, oh, you know, There's nothing to really investigate Joe Biden on, and a lot of people are saying, well, that's kind of strategic right before this election cycle, because if we do impeach him, if we do investigate him, this might potentially make him not be able to run for the presidency of the United States.
Is this going to be something that's going to be happening now with this impeachment?
Why is there a sudden shift in Congress?
seth weathers
They have no spine.
tim pool
There's no shift.
seth weathers
It's a different excuse.
They just don't have to go through with it.
tim pool
No, they need to get rid of Biden.
This is not good for Trump.
seth weathers
Oh yeah, right.
tim pool
The question is, how do you remove Joe Biden?
If Joe Biden gets impeached, convicted, and then they criminally convict Donald Trump, they will say, we've been impartial the whole time.
Joe Biden went down for corruption and Donald Trump, and now we have Newsom v. DeSantis.
And you know who wins that election?
Newsom.
seth weathers
Unfortunately, you're correct.
ian crossland
You think it's going to be DeSantis?
unidentified
Well, I mean, he's... It could be Haley.
It could be even worse.
luke rudkowski
I'm being hopeful when I say DeSantis.
Newsome, Nikki Haley, who do you vote for?
unidentified
No, I vote for Hayley over that.
seth weathers
I'm not saying I would enjoy that vote.
luke rudkowski
The worst of those is that I think Nikki Haley would get us into war with Iran, whereas Gavin would capitulate to the financial services of the System.
seth weathers
No, but I was excited that he's...
unidentified
Dying douche.
ian crossland
The worst of those is that I think Nikki Haley would get us into war with Iran, whereas Gavin
would capitulate to the financial services of the CISO people.
luke rudkowski
He would get us into war with ourselves.
Yeah.
He would spark a civil war from my perspective.
ian crossland
But you think Vivek just the media hates him too much?
They're gonna they're gonna try and stop him and make him look like a bad guy.
luke rudkowski
No, I think Trump would automatically and say hey Vivek should be the president because Vivek's the only person who said that he would pardon Donald Trump if he would become the president of the United States and didn't hesitate to say that.
So I think Vivek might have a path here with how tumultuous and crazy the situation could get here as of course if I'm Donald Trump I'm rooting for a Vivek if I can't run and I can't be president of the United States.
Yeah.
ian crossland
Tucker could be VP.
luke rudkowski
Well, Tucker always made these kind of statements saying, you know, I don't want to be a politician, but it's always the people who don't want to be the politicians that should be the politicians.
So he always has a way of kind of saying these things and making people understand that there is a sense of duty and responsibility when it comes to public office that he understands, even though he says he doesn't want it, but then he describes people who don't want it as the people who should be there.
So duplicitous messages, and this is why.
Tucker Carlson 2024.
I got the t-shirt.
I'm gonna sell a lot more of them if this becomes the case, but it's not just about the t-shirt.
It's about the future of this country that is in a very dangerous situation right now.
tim pool
It's really funny because...
Okay, so if Joe Biden gets impeached, Kamala Harris will take over, but she will likely say, I'm not gonna run.
In the event Biden is impeached and convicted, removed, Kamala becomes acting president and says, I'm not gonna spend the one year I have to help the American people campaigning!
And then she's going to say, you know, the Democrats will have a process to determine who the nominee shall be, and I will protect the office and this country for the remainder of this term.
Then she bows out.
Then Newsom steps in, and it's going to be, you know, Newsom and who do you think his VP is going to be?
luke rudkowski
Lucifer?
I don't know.
tim pool
Satan?
What if it's Newsom-Haley versus, like, DeSantis?
luke rudkowski
Newsom or Michelle Obama?
tim pool
Maybe.
luke rudkowski
Right?
ian crossland
It would be interesting to see people from multiple parties come together to one party.
seth weathers
That's the same party.
Newsom and Haley, I guess.
Exactly.
tim pool
Chris Christie.
And this is why I think it's really, really funny.
A year or two ago, we're all like, impeach what the Bidens have been doing for years, and now we're close to the election.
unidentified
We're like, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Keep them there.
tim pool
Keep them there.
ian crossland
I think everything's fine.
tim pool
Call your congressman and say, no impeachment.
We want Biden to stay.
ian crossland
I feel like if Biden stays, he'll win again.
Just because of the way the system works, unfortunately.
I don't like the way the media can propel people to vote a certain way just by convincing them.
It's very, very, very, very powerful.
seth weathers
Elon Musk has actually had a huge change on what the next election will be based on Twitter, now X. So they were able to censor so much that just never could make it through on the old Twitter.
That won't happen this time.
I've said this multiple times, like as an example, our beer company would not exist without Elon Musk.
Reason being, we would never have been allowed to go viral to the level that we did anywhere other than an Elon Musk-owned Twitter.
You can look at what we did on other platforms, hardly anything, yet on Twitter we have almost 50 million views, yet magically on Facebook, Instagram, all those places, you maybe get a million, if even that.
luke rudkowski
If we had real free speech if we had the ability to actually talk to each other without algorithms and censorship efforts Donald Trump would have been the president of the United States right now he would have not lost but it's because of the censorship it's because of the manipulation because of the fortifying.
Why essentially Joe Biden was allowed to be where he is right ... now because he was able to censor stories like the hunter ... Biden laptop story from the general public which we know ... played a major impact on the election so free speech is ... important here and I think this is why there's so many ... attacks on Elon Musk trying to destroy him trying to take ... down Twitter because if you take down Twitter you could ... essentially fortify all the elections in the future.
tim pool
Did you see NBC News' breaking story?
I just love this.
They wrote an article and it said that Tesla's new Cybertruck, weighing in at six to eight hundred pounds, could be lethal in collisions with pedestrians and smaller cars.
Experts warn.
And I was like, wow.
Wow.
Don't get hit by truck breaking news.
But this is how much they're going after Elon Musk.
They actually wrote that news story.
luke rudkowski
The Daily Beast, too, about a recall about the software.
Fake news!
tim pool
Real quick, this would piss me off.
It's been reported everywhere.
Tesla recalls all vehicles to fix dangerous things.
What it really means is Tesla issues software update you won't even notice.
seth weathers
I was about to say, you don't even have to go in anywhere to get it, from what I understand.
It's just a download through your system.
tim pool
But they're calling it a recall.
seth weathers
Oh yeah, no, it's complete BS.
tim pool
You're going to wake up and your app's going to be updated and you're going to go, uh-uh, whatever.
ian crossland
I want to do a soft correction to what you said about Joe Biden censoring the Hunter thing, because I don't think there's evidence that he did it directly, it was just that I think there's evidence the FBI was involved with Twitter.
luke rudkowski
I might have misspoke then, but it was the intelligence agencies that of course censored this, but the establishment.
ian crossland
You might consider that he was, I don't know if he was directly involved, but it was his son was the one that was under investigation.
tim pool
Are you going to vote for Trump, Luke?
luke rudkowski
Um, maybe.
Possibly.
I still want to be one of... Who are you going to vote for?
seth weathers
Who the hell are you going to vote for?
luke rudkowski
ManBearPig.
seth weathers
I want to have this conversation.
unidentified
ManBearPig, there's uh... You would go with that over Trump?
luke rudkowski
No, no, no.
It depends.
It depends who's running.
I do think, obviously, if I have to Trump.
ian crossland
You don't have to vote for anybody.
luke rudkowski
I'm explaining it.
tim pool
I had a friend hit me up and he's like, are you seriously, he's like a liberal guy, he's like, are you seriously considering voting for Donald Trump?
And I was like, considering?
I was like, I'm voting for Donald Trump.
And then he was like, why?
And he said all of the bad things Trump has done.
And I'm like, I'm not going to argue with you.
Anything you think that Trump will do to this country that is bad, then I think America deserves based on its foreign policy.
And Trump's first term was no new wars.
And that is what we must do.
So my view is this.
First of all, Economy was great.
I think Trump actually did a pretty good job considering the weights tied to his ankles.
He did some bad things, but I think it was an overall net positive.
If the reality was this country will be in hard times, but no new wars, take it.
But the reality is it's going to be better with no new wars.
So my argument to the liberal guy is, oh, you agree with the military-industrial complex?
You want to vote for Biden and have more war in the Middle East, South America, Europe?
No.
Okay, vote for Trump.
ian crossland
I just, I hope he can keep his cool.
That's a big part of it.
seth weathers
He kept his cool his whole term!
There was literally no new wars.
ian crossland
He used to tweet a lot about like those radical, he would like incite the left-right paradigm.
seth weathers
No, but that's what kept us out of some of the wars.
luke rudkowski
It's going to depend who his VP is going to be as well.
Because if it's someone that's going to be like another Mike Pence, if he's going to be surrounding himself with Henry Kissinger again and John Bolton again and all these other... If it's Nikki Haley.
unidentified
Yeah, it wasn't Kissinger.
luke rudkowski
No.
seth weathers
If it's Nikki Haley, would you not vote for her?
You would vote for Biden?
luke rudkowski
Nikki Haley or Biden?
seth weathers
No, no, no.
If Trump chose Nikki Haley, which I think would be horrific as his VP, would you vote for her?
luke rudkowski
Why vote at all, though?
seth weathers
That's what I'm asking.
tim pool
I will promise you this.
If Donald Trump draws a gigantic pentagram on the ground in a black robe and summons the zombie corpse of Kissinger, I also will not vote for him.
luke rudkowski
Hey, they do that type of stuff.
They do that type of stuff with Marina Brovomitch, okay?
And that's on record.
ian crossland
That's fact.
luke rudkowski
There's videos.
They summon demons through writing with their bodily fluids on the walls.
I don't like that one.
seth weathers
You just heard about this too!
luke rudkowski
All the bodily fluids.
Blood, spit, urine.
unidentified
Okay, okay, okay.
luke rudkowski
Alright, alright.
We broke the story.
Spirit cooking story.
We broke that story, yes.
tim pool
Anyway, I was making a joke.
I agree with the criticisms of Trump with Kissinger and Sheldon Adelson and John Bolton and all that was bad, but no one did worse!
ian crossland
I think you made a good point.
The VP is very important right now.
Very, very important.
luke rudkowski
If it's Tucker, if it's RFK, if it's Vivek, okay, you got me.
But if it's Nikki Haley, Chris Christie, or another Mike Pence or another neocon, I'm like, what's the point of even voting then?
seth weathers
You just gotta hope that Trump survives.
luke rudkowski
Again, I'm not here to vote.
I think the idea is election cycles, everyone says, oh, I got to vote for this guy.
No, the ideas matter the most.
So the people that push the ideas the most, the people who start the conversations the most, I think have a bigger impact than the actual person that is selected or elected to become the next president of the United States.
So this is where I'm looking at.
Where are the conversations?
Where are the debates?
Where can we push the Overton window to a position where we can actually make people understand the reality of the situation that we're under right now?
ian crossland
That's a really good point, man.
You saw the way Trump's generals just ignored his orders and played shell games?
seth weathers
If we don't acknowledge the situation we're in now, it's going to be too late.
I know everyone says that election cycle after election cycle, but I do think we're at a pivotal point.
luke rudkowski
Absolutely.
tim pool
I want to jump to this next story.
Hunter Biden defies GOP congressional subpoena.
Quote, he just got into more trouble and the GOP is vowing to initiate contempt proceedings after Hunter Biden flouts this subpoena to closed-door testimony.
We did talk about it a little bit already, but what do you think's gonna happen?
You think they're gonna give him the Steve Bannon treatment?
He's gonna go to jail because he defied a congressional subpoena?
luke rudkowski
Well, no, because the Democrats are in charge and they run the intelligence agencies and the Department of Justice and their attorney generals.
And of course, justice is skewed on political perspective.
But this could also be political pressure put on Biden saying, hey, we're going to put your son in jail unless you bow out of this election cycle by the intelligence state.
tim pool
We are going to go after your son.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
tim pool
But I wonder, can the White House pardon on contempt charges when it's initiated by the legislative branch?
Because I would imagine checks and balances are supposed to prevent this.
If Congress holds you in contempt, the executive branch should not be able to intervene, right?
seth weathers
I'm not an attorney, I think we need one on this one.
tim pool
I know, it's interesting, because Congress is saying do this or else, if the executive branch was able to come in and say no, they don't have to, that would give the executive branch substantial power over the legislature.
ian crossland
I'm kind of with you, Seth, from what you said earlier, that I think he maybe should have a public hearing, like his testimony in public.
Why not, man?
That's not a partisan thing, it's just like, why are they trying to get him to go behind closed doors?
luke rudkowski
It's not family friendly.
seth weathers
I don't care.
luke rudkowski
I'm probably discussing a lot of things that would be censored automatically on YouTube that we can't even discuss here that he particularly, you know, played a major role in spending millions of dollars on, you know... Like, the dude from Eve 6 had a great tweet, and I'm like, this guy's like a lefty.
tim pool
And so when Hunter Biden gives the speech where he's like talking about how he's not gonna submit to this, even leftists are saying like, you've taken way too many photographs with crack and hookers for anyone to defend you at this point.
ian crossland
Yeah, man, he's a deviant, that's for sure.
luke rudkowski
And that's the least, that's the least bad thing he did.
unidentified
I would like to ask him how he spent... That's admirable for a lot of other people.
seth weathers
I think like $800,000 on hookers or something.
$688,000 reportedly on... They're called ladies, aren't they?
No, there was more.
luke rudkowski
for a lot of other people.
seth weathers
I think like $800,000 on hookers or something.
tim pool
$688,000 reportedly on ladies.
seth weathers
I was like, no, there was more.
tim pool
It's at various women.
ian crossland
Over what period of time?
seth weathers
How many women, how many times a day, like, I want to know some numbers because I am curious.
ian crossland
Apparently he wants you to know the numbers too.
He's proud, maybe he's proud of it.
unidentified
He's like, yo, if I'm going down, I want everyone to know what I've been through in my life.
seth weathers
Yeah, I'm just kind of curious at this point.
ian crossland
How long, over how many years did he spend at $688,000?
Four maybe or something?
tim pool
But hold on, hold on.
Let's be real.
$680,000 on various women could also mean he bought them dinners, you know, he flew them on private jets, staying in hotels on islands and things.
I'm not, I'm not sure the reporting was that he literally gave that much to women for their company, if you know what I'm saying.
ian crossland
Yeah.
seth weathers
Yeah.
Again, this is something we should get to in the inquiry.
tim pool
I'd like to imagine.
I mean, I mean, let's just think about this life.
I mean, the dude is basically living in just A swamp of debauchery, and I feel bad for him.
It's like a cursed existence where he's just covered in slime.
seth weathers
Yeah, literally.
tim pool
700 grand on hookers, dude?
seth weathers
Yeah, these women have some slime diseases.
luke rudkowski
That's on the record.
tim pool
I know!
luke rudkowski
That's not cash.
Imagine one of the cash purchases here, okay?
seth weathers
Yeah, because there's a lot of withdrawals.
But like, from the videos, the things I've seen out of Hunter Biden, these were not really high-end women.
So I feel like this is a lot of different women.
It's not like he's getting the, you know... Right, because they're talking 30, 40 bucks.
tim pool
Yeah.
He's got to go a long way to get up to 700K.
seth weathers
Another 40.
Oh, man, under a bridge.
tim pool
I mean, dude, the videos, aren't there like videos where he's got like three women?
seth weathers
Yeah, but everything I've seen, they look rough.
These women could not be charging a lot.
tim pool
That's what I'm, I agree.
So I'm, we're talking like he's finding like three or four women and giving them each like a hundred bucks.
To get to 700k is a lot.
seth weathers
Maybe he just gives a ton.
That's what I'm thinking.
ian crossland
One special girl, he gave like 300k.
unidentified
Right, it's like one woman.
ian crossland
Took her to Maui.
Treated her right for six months.
seth weathers
Drove her around in a dance corvette.
luke rudkowski
Wasn't there a movie about this?
What was that famous movie?
ian crossland
Weekend at Bernie's?
tim pool
No, no, no, Pretty Woman.
luke rudkowski
Yes.
ian crossland
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Apparently it was a very dark movie in the beginning, and that changed, Julia Roberts was saying.
I didn't know.
tim pool
Oh, it was supposed to be like really nasty?
ian crossland
Yeah, apparently.
tim pool
I mean, the movie is fairly bad.
seth weathers
Yeah.
I don't know how women dream.
Like, oh, such a love tale.
I'm like, it's kind of... She's a hooker.
I know!
Like, she was literally a street corner hooker, and it was such a sweet tale.
ian crossland
It's funny how this story with Hunter has these dichotomies, like, he's like, my father, my parents took such good, like, I feel sad for a human going through this crappy life with a super famous dad that didn't give him enough attention and just bought him out of trouble.
But at the same time, like, bro, if you use your dad's money and he was had, like, cycling political influence, that's, like, full-on political, we cannot tolerate that in our government anymore.
We've got to, we're at the age of, we're coming to the age of Aquarius, but the age of openness, like, the apocalypse is upon us.
You can't, Wow, that took a dark turn.
Yeah, apocalypse meaning the great awakening, the great revealment.
Like we're in this age of revealment.
We're like, I just, I don't, I don't hate this guy.
It's just like, what, can we let it stand?
Can we pardon him and just be like, yo, what you did can never happen again, but we're not going to destroy ourselves and you.
tim pool
Hold on there a minute.
The drugs and the hookers is a, Hunter, you need some help.
I'm hearing that you're getting clean.
unidentified
Correct.
tim pool
This is good for you.
Now let's move on to the bribery, the influence peddling, the funneling money to your dad.
ian crossland
Yeah, because he and Joe, they could have got us into the Ukraine.
luke rudkowski
The checks for the big guy, the money, the shared bank accounts.
Yeah, the Ukrainian oligarchs and business deals that they had with, what was the oil company again?
Burisma.
When you look at what's happening in Ukraine, holy cow, there are so many corrupted politicians there, and that whole case should have been properly investigated.
Trump, even just trying to investigate it, was impeached for just trying to do that, which is absolutely crazy.
And now we're going to finally investigate it.
What's up?
What's going on here?
Of course, he was protected before.
Now he's not?
I think something's up.
tim pool
What if Hunter flips?
Imagine the GOP and Trump, they go to him and they say, not only are you going to be pardoned, you're going to be a hero.
Just tell everybody what happened with Burisma.
And then what if he comes out and says, we called my dad and asked him to intervene on our behalf?
And then Joe is just like, oh crap.
Because think about it.
This gets Joe out.
It gives Democrats an opportunity to bring in Newsom.
ian crossland
Yeah, and I think a lot more people would be willing to pardon Hunter if he comes out clean.
tim pool
So Joe might say, throw him into the bus, this is what we want, then the Democrats bring in Newsom, you'll get pardoned, people will cheer for you for calling us out, for calling out the corruption or whatever, you're not going to be perfect in the eyes, but you'll have some redemption arc, and then they can bring in Newsom, and someone super chatted saying it's going to be Whitmer, Newsom-Whitmer.
luke rudkowski
Yep, I saw that too.
And then Biden will pass on, and then Hunter Biden will become the next politician that will probably become the next president of the United States.
tim pool
I don't think that'll happen, but it's like, man, Joe Biden is clearly on the way out, not all there.
Right now, the play for a father to save his son is to say to his son, I mean, do you think Joe Biden has that much dignity and self-respect to throw himself off for his son?
seth weathers
I don't think about that.
tim pool
I think the root of corruption typically is familial and friendly bonds.
The reason why they engage in this level of corruption is to enrich themselves.
I do believe Joe Biden cares about his kids and I do believe he probably abused his kids, you know, to a great degree.
So maybe care isn't the right word.
But my point is, The Democrats want Newsom in, they gotta get Joe Biden out.
How do you do it?
The inquiry's slow moving and right now a bunch of people are like, wait a minute, wait a minute.
We don't want Joe Biden impeached and convicted because we want him to run against Trump.
Democrats need to get somebody in.
seth weathers
What if Democrats just make Joe Biden like climb a bunch of really tall stairs a lot between now and the election?
I think their odds would be in their favor.
He won't make it.
tim pool
No, because there's something that happens to people at his age where, with cellular regeneration operating at such a low percentage, stressing the body actually does not improve him.
It degrades him faster.
seth weathers
No, I'm saying he's gonna fall.
tim pool
Oh, right, right.
I thought you were saying that we're- No, no, no.
seth weathers
We're past- You're right.
ian crossland
We're past workout.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
seth weathers
That's- No, no.
unidentified
That's a darker thought there.
tim pool
I'm just saying, maybe it won't be Hunter Biden coming out and being like, I must tell the truth.
It might be something like, You know, look, yeah, we called my dad.
He did it.
And then everyone goes, we got him.
We got Joe Biden.
The conservatives get to scream and rub in the Democrats' faces.
But then they bring in Gavin Newsom.
seth weathers
I think they're too arrogant.
I don't think it'll happen.
These people never think they're really going to ever get caught because they control everything.
They are the deep state.
They live in such a world of, I don't know what the word is, but they're They control it all when it comes to the deep state.
They have no fear of themselves being thrown in jail for protesting or anything else like that.
So I don't think so.
I get what you're saying, but what you're saying is almost a rational approach.
I don't know that they're going to take a rational approach.
tim pool
I think you may be right, but consider this a basic chess move.
seth weathers
That's a smart move, I think.
I don't know that they're going to make that smart move.
ian crossland
Also, I don't think Hunter would do it because his life would be forfeit if he spoke out.
tim pool
No, no, it's the opposite.
seth weathers
No, this would save Hunter.
tim pool
It would save him.
ian crossland
If Hunter exposed the Deep State's plots in Ukraine, Hunter would not survive.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no, no.
You misunderstand.
The Deep State wants Hunter to do it.
They need Joe Biden out.
Joe Biden can't beat Trump.
How do you get Newsom in?
It's a great play.
I don't know if it's a perfect play, but on the surface, you get Hunter Biden.
Joe Biden's son is saved.
Hey, Joe, we want you out.
No, I don't want to leave.
OK, well, we're going to we're going to save your son by having him come out and provide evidence that removes you from office.
Your son will be saved.
You will be out.
Newsom comes in.
Newsom gives us the war we want.
ian crossland
I guess if Hunter could expose some of the dealings without letting the American people know that they kind of got us into the war and you like their corruption with Burisma like accelerated this.
tim pool
He will only reveal what the deep state wants him to in order to remove Joe Biden and get Newsom Whitmer in.
I'm not saying it's absolute.
ian crossland
It's not the worst thing in the world.
This guy's got a long life to live.
I don't think he wants to die or like go to jail or any of that.
But I also think Joe will pardon it.
tim pool
If you think Joe doesn't have the integrity to sacrifice himself for his son, okay, then consider he doesn't have the perspicacity or the cognitive faculties to understand what's happening at all.
ian crossland
That's close to reality.
tim pool
Hunter's gonna be like, my dad did it, and he's crooked.
What can I say?
I'm sorry, American people.
unidentified
And then Joe's response is, and that's it.
luke rudkowski
Hunter has to go to the CIA and say, hey, I'll do whatever you guys want me to do.
We'll take out my dad.
I'm really pissed at my dad is of course a lot of people are also kind of theorizing that a lot of what came out through the laptop was kind of a deliberate release since there are many serious accusations against Joe Biden hurting his children especially with the Hunter especially with the the Biden diary that the FBI was after.
Specifically even rating the home of James O'Keefe after ... that they kind of verified the findings in which ... essentially detailed some very disturbing events that ... unfolded between Joe Biden and his younger daughter so a ... lot of people are saying maybe Hunter Biden released all the ... details of his laptop maybe he deliberately tried to get it ... publicized in order to bring down his father as a part of a ... retribution plan to finally get some justice against him ...
Possibly hurting and abusing at the very least like subconsciously I can see that happening because like I've been it really high in my life and like Had such self-hatred that I would allow that stuff came out that was like true that I wouldn't normally say if I was sober But but listen Bill Clinton said the house of cards is 99% accurate for a reason and when you watch that TV series you see a lot of backstabbing you see people just you know Take each other out politically in so many dastardly ways and you see a lot of really sinister activities of people just screwing each other over all the time.
That's Washington DC.
So I think everything is at play here because the establishment is going to lose.
They are going to lose their main puppet, their main frontman, their main skin suit that allows them to implement whatever policies they want on the American people, no matter how unpopular they're able to do it through Joe Biden.
Why would they give it up?
If they're going to lose this upcoming election, no matter what, they need something else that is going to be happening behind the scenes that we might not even know of that's happening right now.
ian crossland
We have to just make sure that we don't trash ourselves, the Americans, in the meantime while this is happening so that the global banking takes this country over.
That would be the worst possible outcome.
Like the Trump-Biden, all this Republican-Democrat crap has to be put aside for American unity coming in 2020.
It's so important.
tim pool
Let's jump to this cultural segment.
Ladies and gentlemen, Matt Walsh has taken off the glove and struck me with it in his latest episode.
He said Tim Pool is wrong.
How dare you?
No, I'm just kidding.
I respect Matt Walsh's opinion.
I love the debate.
And Matt Walsh says the Bud Light boycott continues.
In a tweet, he also did have a decently long segment on his show where he addressed Dana White, Tucker Carlson, Kid Rock, as well as myself, and it was respectful and it was intelligent, and I agree with a lot of what he said, and I don't completely disagree with the idea of continuing the boycott.
All I'm saying is, we need to consider our next moves if the plan is a boycott.
But let me read first what Matt Walsh says.
He tweets, the Bud Light boycott is the one time in modern history when conservatives have staged an effective boycott against a major corporate brand.
If we back away from this victory now, it will show that we've learned nothing and don't want to win.
Not going to happen.
Boycott continues.
This shouldn't even be a conversation.
Bud Light is a brand owned by a foreign conglomerate that tried to push trans ideology and is now paying the price.
There is absolutely no legitimate reason to back away or let off the gas.
They deserve everything that's happened to them.
Well, as the debate continues, I'd like to first ask our local beerman, who's here, who actually runs a beer company and has challenged Bud Light directly, your thoughts on the boycott and what do you think we should do?
seth weathers
I think I've been saying this from the beginning of this whole thing, this is the one time I've seen conservatives follow through with an actual boycott.
In the past we've been like, oh we're skipping an NFL game, we're skipping a baseball game, we skip two or three games and everybody's back in the stands.
This is the one time we've done it.
The only way to be taken seriously in the future is to cause permanent economic harm to a major corporation.
And I think that this is our opportunity.
We may fail in the end.
I understand what you're saying.
But this is our shot to do it.
And so you have to stick to it.
tim pool
So your argument is?
seth weathers
Double down.
tim pool
No one should ever buy Bud Light again, no matter what.
seth weathers
I mean, it seems a little bias coming from me.
I'm not going to lie.
But yeah, what would be the purpose of doing so at this point in your life?
tim pool
So my argument is, 30% loss in sales year over year up to date, and Bud Light has just put $105 million per year into UFC.
Now is the opportunity to steal the narrative.
With what Sean Strickland said on Twitter, which can't be said on- Sean Strickland's never going to- we're never gonna be able to steal the narrative.
Maybe within a circle of conservatives- The narrative is stolen when every conservative repeats what Sean Strickland said- But they'll never do it!
seth weathers
Most conservatives are- starts with a P, ends with a Y. They don't follow through and do these things.
It's never gonna happen.
unidentified
So that means- Sean Strickland will, and that's why we're sitting here talking about Sean Strickland.
tim pool
Okay, so consider now where we go from here.
If conservatives will do nothing else, What happens tomorrow?
seth weathers
I think they can continue with their boycott.
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
What does Bud Light do tomorrow?
seth weathers
I mean, there's a lot of things they're doing and they're going to do.
They're putting more money into different brands within their entity.
They're doing things like that.
It's where they've pulled back a lot of the spending on their advertising for Bud Light itself and they've redirected those funds.
tim pool
Do you think Bud Light will apologize?
seth weathers
No.
ian crossland
I think an apology would do more damage at this point.
seth weathers
No, no, I don't think it would.
I think it would give everyone the okay.
tim pool
I think an apology would actually boost their sales.
ian crossland
I think it would remind people what they did and that would enhance the boycott.
seth weathers
People haven't forgotten.
Here's the paths we have before us.
tim pool
If everybody wants to continue the boycott, I'm totally on board.
We need people to double down.
seth weathers
Yes.
tim pool
Sean Strickland opened the door for you.
I'm not saying what he does as a UFC champion is the... it's the tip of the spear, but you're requiring the rest of the spear for this to work.
He made some statements on Twitter directly under the banner of Bud Light.
Shockingly offensive to the woke left, and Bud Light said nothing.
The attack opportunity right now would be for conservatives to hold up a Bud Light, repeat the words of Sean Strickland, and say, wow, thanks Bud Light for sponsoring UFC and Sean, we completely agree with your message.
And then read off his tweets.
seth weathers
Conservatives aren't going to do it.
Then if they won't- Conservatives come up to me in the gym and whisper like, hey, I really support what you're doing, I like it.
I'm like, why are we whispering?
They're scared.
You think they're going to go say the kind of stuff that Sean Strickland said they won't?
tim pool
Which is why my argument was, at this point, With Dana White, Kid Rock, coming out and being like, we've done the damage, let's claim the victory, I'm like, if this is where conservatives stop, and they won't take another step forward, then the best thing we can do right now is say, we won.
I'm not saying buy Bud Light ever again, fine, don't.
I'm saying, claim the narrative victory, say, we've done everything we wanted to do, Bud Light learned their lesson, and let it be a lesson to each and every one of you, you've lost 30%, good luck in the future, but our message stands.
seth weathers
I don't think anyone's ever going to see that as a victory if they all go back.
tim pool
I'm not saying go back.
I'm saying at this point you have to- Claim a victory.
seth weathers
Start claiming it today.
I'm with you there.
Say we've won.
Because it's down.
tim pool
You would have to say, we did everything we wanted to do.
Because if no one goes one step further, and UFC, Dana White, goes on Tucker Carlson and says, Bud Light's great, you should buy Bud Light, and no one calls out Dana White for this and UFC is unscathed, then the narrative is, the boycott is over.
If the boycott is over, Kid Rock said so, and Dana White basically... I think those are two people.
seth weathers
I agree.
Bars, restaurants, stores, etc.
The average person is not saying the boycott's over.
tim pool
My point is, how do you get Coca-Cola, how do you get Disney, how do you get all these corporations to be scared?
To not do the same thing.
seth weathers
You have to look at the fact that Bud White will still be down 25% or 22% or 24%, whatever it is, three years from now.
tim pool
And this requires... That leaves a lot of fear.
seth weathers
I don't think that's true.
I think it will be.
I've talked to distributors and stuff.
There is 20% to 23% or something like this percent that will never go back to buying Bud White.
They've bought it all their lives.
And they'll find growth elsewhere.
They'll move it around.
That's fine.
But they will not be able to show within the Bud Light brand because they're treated like different entities.
They're not gonna be able to show like, oh, it came back.
It's 22 to whatever it is percent.
In 10 years from now, they won't have.
That leaves a lasting impact on a corporation that goes like, remember what happened to them.
That's bad.
tim pool
I do think this will have a lasting impact.
There's a famous case where McDonald's in the UK, the reason why corporations don't sue activists, a couple of activists were standing outside of a McDonald's, I think it was a McDonald's, petitioning, saying, hey, McDonald's is bad, they do this thing.
McDonald's sued them.
McDonald's, I believe, it's an old story, I could be wrong, but I believe McDonald's was right.
These activists were defaming them, and they won.
and they lost something like a billion dollars in market cap because they looked
like bullies attacking some of the old ladies so it was really really bad for them
what ends up happening is when people challenge brands the brands usually shut
ian crossland
up and back off if you want to double down if the next move is to twist the
knife so to speak the
proverbial knife you want to boycott all of the anheuser-busch brands which are
mickelob rolling rock bush natural johnny apple seed and landshark blocker. The
question is do you want to boycott the brands of the parent company
the belgian company AB InBev which are corona, hoegaarden, lefe, stella artois
seth weathers
every beer brand but conservative What's the right word?
The impact on external brands is around six to eight percent.
That's why I was specific about with Bud White.
I was like, this is it.
You gotta target in on that.
I said that early in the, cause people start saying, well, here's a list of all the stuff.
The nerds are pulling out their list of all the beer brands you can't.
I'm like, yeah, you gotta focus.
tim pool
It's like six to 8%.
The, the, the, the, um, extra, what's, what's the right word?
The, the, the impact on external brands is around six to 8%.
We've seen Anheuser-Busch across the board suffering because of this.
Cause some people are diehard.
The only point I'm trying to make, right now, what's the next move?
Silence is not an option.
I think what needs to happen is, by all means, say, we boycotted it, we'll boycott it forever, but it's done, we're moving on, we've won, this is your fault, Bud Light, and it'll happen to any other company that does so next, but you need to say, this is the extent to which we want it, right?
seth weathers
I get what you're saying there.
That's fine to claim the victory over there, but you can't say, it's okay to come back now.
Dana White can tell people to do keg stands in their garage every day.
I agree.
And I like probably a ton of what Dana White does.
Not a big fan of that.
Because, you know what?
Who knows what you could get me to say for $105 million.
So Dana, there you go.
luke rudkowski
I think we're also in a position of power right now.
And in a situation like this, they understand that the leftist yuppies are not going to be drinking their beer, right?
So why not try to get more out of this?
And I think we can get kind of more out of this by saying, hey, we can't just be placated with a little bit of money.
We want real cultural differences.
We want investment.
We want you guys to actually stand behind your word, not just advertise.
seth weathers
We want more than just that.
Dana White can be placated by a little bit of money, or maybe a lot of money per se.
Although, you know what, if they want to give $105 million to the Raleigh-Gaines Center
to fight men and women's sports, then I say big victory.
luke rudkowski
How much are you going to give to the Republicans?
How much are you going to give to the Republican presidential nominee?
ian crossland
In the culture war, we just won a huge battle.
The troops are broken.
They are fleeing.
Now is our opportunity to do the route.
But they're sending a rearguard attachment to delay our route.
That's the $100 million to Dana White is the rearguard defense.
Now we can bypass that defense and go for the route by boycotting all of these beers from this company.
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
That's it.
ian crossland
That's the total victory.
luke rudkowski
Destroy!
tim pool
I mean, it's what you want out of it.
I respect the analogy, but I think it's a little off.
The giving money is they've been routed.
Their field commanders raised the white flag and said, we're willing to cede 10% of the battlefield if you stop.
And then one of the commanders on our side came out and said, everyone, let's take it and we're done.
And all the troops are screaming, no.
If that's the case, you cannot just sit there screaming no.
Something else must be done.
The opportunity now, I think, is going to be the figurative knife twisting of, Taking a can of Bud Light and reading off Sean Strickland's tweets and forcing Bud Light to either issue a denouncement or an apology.
Like, look, all I can say is this.
People really need to go read what Sean Strickland said to understand what I'm saying.
The problem is, it's just a tweet.
I cannot say it on YouTube.
ian crossland
I know, but it's just a tweet.
It doesn't have that kind of influence.
tim pool
There was a guy who lost his sponsors in NASCAR because his dad used a racial slur in the 80s.
That's where we were.
Where we are now is that Bud Light shut up when Sean Strickland made a statement so strong, I can't repeat it on YouTube.
And nothing, nothing happened.
So this is us storming the battlefield and winning.
seth weathers
I don't think it really reached the average person knowing about that.
tim pool
This is why I'm saying, people need to take his tweets and force Bud Light to either support or denounce what he said.
luke rudkowski
Bud Light advertisements.
With him, with the do-rag, saying it to the world.
ian crossland
I don't understand why you guys aren't interested in boycotting the company.
tim pool
He said it was sponsored by Bud Light.
He said brought to you by Bud Light.
ian crossland
Bud Light's just the name of many things that the company owns.
Why not boycott the entire company?
seth weathers
Yes, you are correct.
tim pool
No one's doing it.
seth weathers
Look how hard it was to get conservatives to boycott anything past a couple days, and now you're going to tell them they've got to read a list of all their favorite alcohol brands and they can't get a Corona on the beach anymore?
They can't handle it.
We can't get Republicans to show up and freaking vote in a freaking primary, and you're asking We went to Charleston, West Virginia.
tim pool
It's about five hours from here.
We went to Mardi Gras Casino, where several people recognized me, and they were big fans, and they were all holding Bud Lights.
And I laughed, and I was like, you guys drinking Bud Light?
And they're like, well, I don't know.
This is a funny thing, right?
We relaunched SCNR.com and I got a super chat the other day from someone like, what is this?
You're just going to launch this thing with no explanation?
And I was like, bro, we've explained this like 20 times over the past two months.
The issue is the average person doesn't watch every single episode of this show.
So how often do we talk about Bud Light?
Out of how many segments we do, we do five to six segments per day on this show.
That gets spread out throughout the week.
And over the past six months, maybe like 20 of them, maybe 30, have been about Bud Light.
ian crossland
We haven't talked about it in like three months.
tim pool
Exactly.
seth weathers
I think that's when I was here.
ian crossland
So a lot of people don't know this.
tim pool
So a lot of people don't know this.
My view is simply, we want every company to say, I don't want to go near Dylan Mulvaney
and Woke Sponsorship because I will lose lots and lots of money.
So then that would mean we need to say, we did it, we won.
Bud Light, bye-bye.
And then we just move on from it.
ian crossland
That might be the right move.
I don't hate AB InBev.
I mean, they made a stupid choice by marketing their beer to kids through Dylan Mulvaney.
And maybe that's all that needs to be known.
Like, don't do it again.
I'm not a huge fan of multinational corporations, but there's other ones like the Bank for International Settlements that I'd rather be boycotting.
seth weathers
Yeah, look, all major corporations, I say all, the vast majority of major corporations hate every single one of us in this room and everything we stand for.
And they give tons of money to those causes that we hate.
Go ahead.
tim pool
I think they hate everybody.
I think most corporations are looking at numbers and they're thinking, how do we get sales?
My concern is, with a company as large as AB InBev, if sales among conservatives have gone to zero, they are not going to stop trying to market the beer.
seth weathers
But it hasn't gone to zero.
There are still a huge percentage of conservatives that are still drinking it.
tim pool
Absolutely, as I mentioned.
seth weathers
So they've got to have that fear of, okay, we can't do anything else or we'll really be toast.
unidentified
I don't believe... Conservatives drink more beer than liberals, by the way.
tim pool
I believe that's true, and that's why they screwed up, because Bud Light, that woman was like, the frat bro image, like, well who do you think's drinking your beer, you know what I mean?
If a liberal's drinking a beer, it's gonna be some weird small batch, you know, craft brew out of Williamsburg or something.
Holla.
My concern is...
Putting $100,000,000 into UFC is an opportunity to say, spend money on us, give us your money.
Someone super chatted that Dana White just got $100,000,000 for free to make fun of Bud Light.
Yes, we want more of that.
How can we get more of that?
What we don't want is for Bud Light to eventually come April go, we spent $100,000,000 on this contract and it's given us a zero return.
The shareholders are angry and they're demanding we spend the money elsewhere.
Then they start investing in who knows what.
seth weathers
The same stuff they've always invested in.
Liberal causes, and just advertising in general.
tim pool
So right, so we want to stop that.
We want more money to go to UFC.
ian crossland
I think they're in a situation where they're like, their ship is sinking.
If their sales are down 24%, that's like a sinking brand.
tim pool
Agreed.
luke rudkowski
But the UFC has a lot of money.
The UFC doesn't need Bud Light.
tim pool
I don't care if they need it.
luke rudkowski
Bud Light needs the UFC.
tim pool
I'd rather Dana White, whether you love him or hate him, have the money over Dylan Mulvaney.
And so the question is, if their ship is sinking, Ian, how do we convince them that we are the ones who are going to make their ship stay upright, but they have to give us the ship?
ian crossland
Oh, just sink the ship.
Just let the ship sink.
seth weathers
Yeah.
tim pool
But it's not going to.
seth weathers
Well, the Bud Light brand will.
Maybe not the overall InBev.
I get what you're saying there.
tim pool
Bud Light will never go away.
unidentified
The fleet will not be sunk necessarily, but it will forever be a part of something.
tim pool
And you agree, they'll shift their spending to other brands.
seth weathers
Correct.
tim pool
And they're going to spend on those other brands in the same direction they've gone with Bud Light.
seth weathers
No, they're not going to do a Dylan Mulvaney ad with Modela or Corona, whatever.
tim pool
But they'll do Pride events and stuff like that.
seth weathers
So does Yingling.
tim pool
Absolutely.
Yep, they do.
seth weathers
Not conservative dads alterate beer by the way.
The only way is openly pro-life and as conservative hot women.
tim pool
Then let's just say this.
The only option right now is the fight is over.
We completely ignore Bud Light.
Never buy from them again.
The narrative drops.
We don't engage with it.
We just support the parallel economy.
seth weathers
And go to conservativedad.com and buy your ultraright beer.
That's the option, I guess.
tim pool
Because then it's not an issue of if there's a boycott or not.
It's a, we don't care anymore.
Have a nice day.
Let them spend the money where they want to spend it.
And you spend your money on parallel economy products.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Public square.
Download public square.
ian crossland
I think that's a good option because it does feel like going balls to the wall against AB InBev is like hostile, like unnecessarily hostile.
seth weathers
I kind of like a little bit of unnecessary hostility in my life, to be honest, though.
unidentified
Same.
seth weathers
The way I've lived the last few years, decades.
ian crossland
I don't know, man.
I guess if you're going to go against a multinational corporation, a beer corporation might be the right one to target.
seth weathers
Hey, fun story.
So this past weekend, we had our Conservative Dads ultra-right anti-corporate retreat up in Gatlinburg in the Smoky Mountains.
And there was evidently a frat party going on on each side of the cabin that we were all in.
So we had everyone with our company in this huge cabin.
There was this frat party going on.
Somehow they ended up with a ton of ultraright beer at these frat parties.
I went over there for a little while.
They were dumping the other beers.
They had no Bud Light.
It was a fun experience.
I'm waiting for those photos and videos to come out.
I'll explain it all once it does.
But it was a good time had by all.
ian crossland
Well, I told them the other night my victory condition would be to see your company buy Bud.
Buy that brand.
seth weathers
I like this idea.
I think we're a few billion short, but I like the concept.
tim pool
Maybe, yeah.
How about we, uh, let's jump to this next story.
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you...
Predictive programming.
Hey, who wants to read those words?
ian crossland
I don't want to say it out loud.
tim pool
Okay, are you ready, everybody?
Civil War.
ian crossland
What is this?
tim pool
Official trailer, HD, A24.
The new movie that is coming out in 2024, starring Kirsten Dunst and many others, is a movie about 19 states seceding from the Union.
A civil war erupting, and the western forces of California and Texas are attacking their way through the U.S.
to make their way to D.C.
for some reason.
We don't know the exact story.
All I know is the premise, based on the trailer, sounds completely ridiculous.
Texas and California will never unite.
There will not be a civil war in which those two states are unified because there are states between them.
However, they do mention 19 states seceded in the trailer, so it could be that Texas and California are part of the secession, but the reason it's called the Western Force of Texas and California is because of the two largest states in the seceding group.
I don't understand why they would team up at all.
seth weathers
I wonder what the story is going to be, but... How is there a Civil War movie that they did not consult the TimCast crew on?
That's what I want to know.
I feel like this should have been, like, Where they focus on.
ian crossland
I got a feeling that they're not going to involve foreign countries coming in and like, because what would happen in a real civil war is the CCP would be heavily involved funding the war.
tim pool
Absolutely.
ian crossland
Lots of Chinese weapons and planes and tanks.
luke rudkowski
And the Russians and the Iranians and the Syrians.
tim pool
Like every civil war.
seth weathers
It'd be a bit of a mess.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
It'll be the Israeli government as well, especially.
And they would say Assad would be everywhere.
ian crossland
They would call it California, but it ain't California doing the weapons.
No, no, no.
tim pool
It would be California.
And the Chinese would go to them and they'd say, we will give you anything you want.
And we don't care what happens afterwards.
ian crossland
And we will guarantee your independence after you win.
unidentified
No, no.
ian crossland
That's what they'll tell them.
tim pool
Right, right.
Yes, yes, yes.
They're saying, just fight each other.
Just rip your country to shreds.
That's it.
But a lot of people are tweeting out predictive programming.
The idea of predictive programming is that powerful elites, government agents, or whatever, condition the public through mass media to encourage certain behaviors in the event of a certain circumstance.
So, a simple idea would be, let's say civil war breaks out.
Nobody knows what it's going to look like.
They want to create an image of what a civil war would look like before it happens, so that your behaviors will fall into a certain camp.
So, some ways to explain this, right?
People don't know what gunshots sound like, because they only hear guns for movies.
That's not what gun sounds like.
Every time someone raises a gun in a movie, the hammer clicks.
The gun cocks.
Which makes literally no sense.
But because they're... And I don't believe that this is to condition you, it's because they're trying to make you know the gun's coming.
But you'll always see in movies like Indiana Jones, for instance, the new one, everybody raises guns to them, and you hear all the guns cocking.
Like, dude, the guns are already cocked.
Ground is already chambered.
They're raising the gun.
There would be no sound, but for dramatic effect.
So imagine it this way.
Civil War breaks out, everyone does a bunch of random things.
You make a movie, Civil War breaks out, and water is poisoned.
Don't drive Teslas.
A big component of the film.
Then what happens is, this idea is seen in everyone's mind from watching a movie that's probably wrong.
Civil War breaks out, everyone says, better stay away from Teslas.
That's the idea of predictive programming.
I don't believe that's the case.
You know, it's possible, I guess.
I think the reality is, there have been numerous articles, numerous statements from academics, talking about the possibility of a civil war.
There have been numerous polls where people say they want a civil war.
There have been members of Congress calling for a national divorce, and some dude goes, This would be a great movie!
and he writes it all down, goes to an investor and says, let's make this movie.
seth weathers
What do we find out if Tim's really behind the movie?
luke rudkowski
Are you bankrolling this, Tim?
Are you financing all of this?
unidentified
The whole point of the past seven years was so I could make this movie.
luke rudkowski
So we were actually talking about this idea yesterday.
I just posted the clip on my Twitter at LukeWeAreChange describing what I was talking about when it comes to predictive programming because I do believe that there are actual incidences where this happened.
24 and torture is one of them.
I mentioned it yesterday.
We also saw the buildup to the Iraq war have a lot of a lot of popular media that went along with it.
That essentially drove the American people to believe that their lives were in danger unless we fought the terrorist over there and not over here so when you look at the intelligence agencies and their larger influence on pop culture on media and entertainment this is this has been something that they've been influencing for many decades now a lot of people bring up a mockingbird a lot of people bring up the commission hearings.
That were happening within Congress that expose the infiltration of the corporate media by the intelligence agencies and if you're at the Intel agencies what better way to to get away with these larger ideas than to kind of make people acquiesce to them through entertainment through subconscious subliminal messaging in films in movies I think this is why we are seeing such racial division tones almost in every form of entertainment now.
I think it's also important to know that right before ... the Ukrainian war there was an extreme amount of Russian ... propaganda we saw the corporate deep state kind of ... media all in unison say Russia Russia Russia hacked this ... election and as we know none of that was actually true but but ... the the Russian boogeyman was built up and now we are in a ... proxy war with Russia.
Using Ukraine as essentially our larger kind of forces on the ground to do the fighting for us and sacrifice their lives for this larger neoconservative objective.
So I do believe predictive programming is true.
I do believe it has been used.
There's a lot of different ways to interpret it.
A lot of people will extrapolate whatever little things they want to extrapolate, but I think it's clear.
Intel agencies control the media.
The media does send out particular messaging that does actually happen.
tim pool
You think there's a strong possibility that they're conditioning us to prepare for a civil war?
luke rudkowski
Now, as far as the whole civil war context, again, you can't really say because it's more clear after the fact.
tim pool
So... Well, real quick, sorry to interrupt, but I just... It could be that they're trying to condition people to not want civil war.
luke rudkowski
It's also impossible to figure it out until after everything happens, because then you kind of put all the pieces together, especially when it came to justifying torture in America, when it came to the larger entertainment series that also had Intel influences that were excusing torture by the Intel agencies.
That's a clear example of them.
Then us finding out through Snowden and WikiLeaks that, yes, they were actually torturing and trying to excuse it through media forms of entertainment.
A couple years down the line, if there's a civil war, we could say, yes, this was the kind of predictive programming.
When the whole Russiagate collusion stuff was happening, no one kind of foresaw, hey, this is going to lead us to be in a kind of proxy war with Russia.
Now that we are, I think it's fair to say that all the stuff that we were hearing about Russia being the boogeyman laid the groundwork for us now being in this proxy war.
So this is how it works.
We're going to know definitively later down the line.
We can't know now.
We can't tell now.
tim pool
The reason why they were trying to claim that Trump was a Russian spy is because we were supposed to be at war with Russia in Ukraine in 2014 and 15.
Into 2016.
Or I should just say 2017.
Because Obama leaves, everything freezes.
The escalation on the eastern front of Ukraine sort of stopped.
Donald Trump gets in, he says, I don't want war.
And then all of a sudden the Ukrainian stuff froze.
I was in Ukraine when this stuff all started.
I was there at the beginning of the Euromaidan protests.
I got to go and actually see the statue that was toppled.
Fragments of Lenin's head on the ground.
And then Molotov cocktails.
I ended up leaving around then.
It escalated from there and the remaining vice crew actually went to Yanukovych's house, the former president who was ousted and fled the country.
Then Trump gets elected.
luke rudkowski
Everything stops and if Hillary would have became president It would there was a very high likelihood that there would
have been war with Russia John McCain like lit I harper Yeah, yeah, John McCain. I mean it also depends on a lot of
different factors China also plays a role in this as well So does Iran so the Saudi Arabia?
But but we have to understand Lindsey Graham and John McCain were in Ukraine during the Maidan revolution
Which was influenced by the intelligence agencies that also helped spur it on and help move Ukraine away from the
Russian influence towards?
the more NATO Western influence, they were there on the ground saying...
Yes, we have to fight the Russians.
We have to kick out the Russians.
We have to have NATO here inside of Ukraine all the way back in 2014, and they were banking the military-industrial complex, the central banks, banksters, the controllers, you're banking on a larger conflict.
If Trump wasn't elected, and Trump still did some things.
He did send lethal weapons to Ukraine, but his foreign policy definitely wasn't as aggressive as Hillary Clinton's would have been, as she's a total bloodthirsty war hawk that literally celebrates the torture and death of individuals and cheers and laughs about it.
ian crossland
I was thinking as you were talking that... He came.
Yeah, we saw.
He died.
That was so crazy.
She laughed.
unidentified
She thought the camera wasn't on or something.
luke rudkowski
Stabbed into his buttocks.
ian crossland
What we're doing is predictive programming as well.
It's just not as subtle as putting it in a movie.
We're actually just projecting what we think is going to happen, and that in a way is prepping people for maybe believing, okay, I'll get ready for what you think is going to happen.
So that's a big responsibility.
And Luke, I'm really glad you brought up that show 24.
luke rudkowski
Yes.
ian crossland
Jack Bauer.
It was Kiefer Sutherland.
It was in 2003, right after September 11th, right after the Towers came down.
It was like he was an anti, he was like fighting terrorists, and he was just such a good guy.
luke rudkowski
And there was a nuke about to go off in New York City, and they needed to torture someone to save everyone in New York City.
And then right after that, they're like, oh, we're torturing people.
It's okay, because we want to save people from getting nuked.
Meanwhile, they were torturing goat herders that literally were sleeping with someone's cousin that they didn't like, and the Afghani neighbor snitched on them, said that they're Taliban, and then they were sent to Egypt and literally had their children.
I can't even say this, but, you know, You know, hurt in unspeakable ways by CIA officials that were torturing them in front of the goat herders there.
For frick's sakes!
It's just mind-boggling to see the level of just how sinister this is, and the things behind the scenes that actually do happen, that they use to justify this kind of criminality and insanity.
ian crossland
We used to watch 24, because you guys watched it.
seth weathers
Bush Admin loves 24, so I have a short version of his story.
Don't kick me off from ever coming back to Temcast after I tell you this.
So I once spent the day with Karl Rove and his favorite show was 24.
ian crossland
Get out.
seth weathers
True story.
luke rudkowski
I don't care.
ian crossland
So what do you like about it?
seth weathers
I think all the things.
unidentified
Torturing people, you know, going after... When did it get into a lot of detail?
seth weathers
I don't remember getting into a lot of detail.
This has been many years ago.
ian crossland
It was like, the show was 24.
It was all about every episode.
There was 24 hours until some horrible thing happened.
So he was always in a rush.
He was always racing against time.
tim pool
No, it was a real time, wasn't it?
Like, 24 was the episode.
ian crossland
Oh, that's right.
And the episode was 10 minutes.
seth weathers
What was bizarre to me is I would have thought someone like Karl Rove, who's been in the places that he's been and lived the life that he's lived, he would think, like, this show's stupid, it's so fake, it's so whatever.
But he was like, no, this is a great show.
ian crossland
I feel like House of Cards did that too, man.
House of Cards made us think that it's okay for politicians to be corrupt.
Like, it's like, yo, it's just how it is.
Look how charming Kevin Spacey is in this too.
It's okay.
luke rudkowski
The Pentagon literally hires Hollywood producers and writers to write scripts for them about events that they then go to the American people and say was truth.
They hired Jeremy Bruckheimer to do the whole Jessica Lynch story.
If you remember that story, That was an insane, large PSYOP on the American people to push the Iraq war, to make everyone stand for this very strong, independent woman that stood up and fought to the last Iraqi.
She stood up on a gunner and took them all down when in reality she was cowering in fear.
The Iraqis took her to a hospital and said, hey, America, can you please pick her up?
America, send in tanks!
Blew up the hospital, took her out, and then the CIA and Jerry Bruckheimer ran with a story saying this brave woman was saved by American heroes after she fought killing the last Iraqi, which was all bullcrap!
tim pool
I know what the predictive programming is.
The main character, the protagonist, what is their job?
ian crossland
Save the world.
tim pool
No, they're a journalist.
unidentified
Oh.
Ugh.
ian crossland
Gross.
tim pool
They're journalists.
And so, already the trailer's narrative is, civil war is bad, journalists are good.
seth weathers
Gross.
tim pool
Here we go.
The media's distrusted.
For years, people have hated the media.
Kirsten Dunst plays a journalist, and she has this line.
It's actually a good line.
She says, every time I came back from a war, I thought I was sending home a warning.
And I'm like, I really like that.
She's saying the warning was, don't do this here.
seth weathers
I think the last time that happened was Vietnam.
I can't think of the journalist's name I'd like to name right now from Vietnam that came back with some of those warnings, but I wish I could name it.
ian crossland
I like how the word war is in the word warning.
Yeah, don't do it here.
Look what happened in Ukraine.
Look what's happening in Ukraine.
That's what happens when war happens somewhere.
seth weathers
Just don't do it here.
I can't believe these freaking lunatics that were out there screaming from their rooftops that Ukraine could win that war.
luke rudkowski
No, they were lying.
They knew they were lying.
seth weathers
I don't know anything about anything.
I remember earlier, I was like, no, there's no way.
This is not going to happen.
tim pool
The only country to get poorer after the fall of the Soviet Union, and they're going to beat Russia?
seth weathers
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
One of the most corrupted countries in the world?
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Like, even if they won, even if that, it would be so devastating.
seth weathers
It wasn't possible!
unidentified
Yeah.
seth weathers
It was never possible.
And I had, I remember having this conversation with people like, you're just talking cause you love Putin.
I'm like, I don't like Putin!
And they're like, well, you can look at facts and just say this country is going to get annihilated over time.
And that's what's happening.
They've, they've killed off a generation of men in Ukraine.
tim pool
This is offensive.
Somebody in the chat said, Alex Garland is a genius.
Tim didn't pass the 11th grade.
That is shockingly offensive.
I didn't pass the ninth grade.
seth weathers
Who's Alex? I can't believe you beat me. I want to say I'm around 10th grade. I dropped out of high school. Oh nice
unidentified
Stop showing off you guys Actually talked to him on this I was homeschooled and I
seth weathers
dropped out of homeschool that's tough to do I dropped out of public school to be homeschooled
unidentified
The the reality is you have a GD. No damn neither do I so Alex
ian crossland
Alex Garland's the guy that wrote this Is that right?
tim pool
It's a writer-director, yeah.
ian crossland
Okay, he did Ex Machina.
tim pool
That's right, and Annihilation.
I mean, I'll definitely see it, for sure.
But it's not like I'm going like, whoa, I gotta see this movie.
My attitude is like, I'm interested to see what their perspective is and how they would portray something.
ian crossland
Yeah, because the power would be out.
I mean, none of these cities would have electricity if there was a real civil war.
No, that's not true.
Well, you don't think so?
tim pool
Of course there'd be power.
ian crossland
I mean, it would be like CCP jets and American jets in the movie.
tim pool
Power will go out selectively in key areas when infrastructure is hit.
Cyber attacks will take out certain portions of the grid, but there are ways that things will be backed up if people have power.
ian crossland
I think it would be an excuse for the CCP and Russia to go total war over the United States homeland.
And it would be like V-2 rockets coming in out of orbit, hypersonic missiles hitting... No, they're going to destroy ourselves!
tim pool
You are right there, but not total war.
ian crossland
Yeah, total war is the word.
It would be a limited war in the United States.
tim pool
No, they'd go to California and say, we will drop bombs on DC for you, and then when it's over, don't forget who helped you.
They would want to maximize influence with the victors.
A crippled United States would be subservient to China.
seth weathers
Yeah, they would let us destroy ourselves as long as we continue.
ian crossland
My concern would be like the CCP would aid the dissent or whatever, the Californian dissent or whatever.
I'm not saying it's California, but just if there was a civil war, one side would be foreign nationals, the other side would be the remnants of the American government, and the American government ones would be flying their F- 52 whatever the hell these jets are dropping bombs over the the dissenters and the dissenters would have Chinese jets coming in over Washington DC and it would be just roads would be all blown apart there wouldn't be lights would not be coming on in the cities the rivers would become toxic it wouldn't be like exciting it would be like no one would know what was going on and they'd just be hearing bombs dropping and planes going overhead and stuff
tim pool
Yeah.
People don't understand.
And people who have served in combat know better than I. Imagine you're in the middle of a shopping mall.
There's no people around.
Civil War is happening, you know it's happening.
You hear gunshots.
What do you do?
You may be thinking...
In a movie, you know the bad guys are all running in, and you're like, oh no, it's the bad guys' run.
In the real world, you hear gunshots, and you're like, I don't know.
And then someone runs in, and you're like, are they a good guy or a bad guy?
Are they on my side, or what do I do?
You don't know.
That's why friendly fire happens so often.
There's a famous story, I can't remember exactly what it was, there was...
There's probably tons of these stories.
An American unit in Vietnam was being surrounded and they were being shelled and they had to get word out because they were being shelled by Americans because the Americans didn't realize that other Americans were there.
These kind of things happen a lot.
ian crossland
And that's like when you're shooting at someone that you don't realize.
Then there's things where, like, you just got dudes walking in front of your tank and you don't know they're in front of you.
luke rudkowski
I think that was Hamburger Mountain, that incident that happened in Vietnam that you were describing.
But no, no, information is the first casualty of war.
So people, you're right, Ian, won't know what's going on.
And more importantly, they'll be given disinformation to make them believe that the opposite is true.
ian crossland
So whatever kind of conflict is unfolding, you might be thinking you're doing the right thing, but you could have been fed information that was totally not Yeah, people get a radio broadcast that sounds like Joe Biden, but it's a deepfake, gives you and bithes the enemy, you know, like that kind of stuff.
tim pool
This is why, uh, so I just, I've recently been watching Dr. Stone, and this is why I love it so much.
of the points of the show, the main character is like, we're gonna build the most powerful
weapon known to man. Communications. And I was just like, YES! I'm like, that is so amazing.
I love that. Because the immediate assumption when you say we want- you're at war, and you're
like, what's the most powerful weapon someone could have?
And they're like, I don't know, nuke? No, a radio. The ability to coordinate in real time
ian crossland
at the speed of light is- I was thinking this two nights ago about-
luke rudkowski
Hamburger Hill.
Hamburger Mountain.
I just want to clarify.
Go ahead.
ian crossland
The radio.
Radio is like the most powerful technology on earth.
seth weathers
What was the Japanese woman that used to broadcast during World War II?
Rose?
Something Rose?
unidentified
I don't know.
ian crossland
Maybe I'll look it up.
tim pool
I don't know.
ian crossland
Dude, the radio changed everything.
tim pool
In writing about Civil War battles and stuff.
And American Revolutionary War fights, it's like, that's why they had trumpets.
ian crossland
Tokyo Rose?
seth weathers
Tokyo Rose, there you go.
tim pool
The reason why they had drums, the reason why they had trumpets, it was battlefield communications.
You knew certain sounds meant certain moves.
But now you have radio!
ian crossland
Yeah, instantaneous long-range communication.
Radio, like, altered reality in such broadcast towering, like, it just, things, after 19-whatever, 04, whenever Tesla popped that, and there were other people working on it too, there's an Italian guy working on it.
seth weathers
Yeah, but TV killed the radio.
ian crossland
It definitely is better, but radio is, like, the basic Function like it's the basic groundbreaking Communication tech that altered reality in such a way and it still will like if power goes out we have like shortwave radio We can bounce it off the same radio.
Yeah, you can connect around the world with it.
tim pool
What is ham high altitude?
seth weathers
I don't know, but it works.
tim pool
Yeah Yeah, crazy.
ian crossland
And you know what?
I want to tell you, Tim, about civilization in the game.
When you develop that technology in the game, Sid Meier had it right.
It changes everything.
You get the broadcast tower, and you get battleships.
The ability to communicate with your ships across the ocean.
Like, oh dude.
Yeah.
You just cannot compete with real-time communication.
tim pool
Yeah, like ten guys with the same weapons as a hundred guys could win if they're communicating in real-time at the speed of light.
Like, I mean like, instant communication as they're standing next to each other, because you can coordinate so much faster, it's ridiculous.
That metric I just made up, I'm just saying hypothetically, communications gives you such a tremendous advantage over your opponent who can't coordinate.
You're running circles around them.
luke rudkowski
Well, it's the main weapon in fifth generational warfare, and a lot of people argue, you know, a lot of the posts, a lot of the social media, A lot of just the videos and the audio and the article, they're a lot more powerful than bullets and bombs.
And I think that argument is absolutely true, especially what we're seeing now with the big attacks against Rumble, the attacks against Twitter, the attacks against anyone.
Willing to stand up for free speech, which I think is absolutely crucial towards anti-war principles that need to be promoted more than ever.
Those principles are only promoted on free speech platforms.
Meanwhile, the other platforms just promote war, conflict, bloodshed, and chaos.
ian crossland
I think the reason communication tech is the most powerful war technology is because people don't want to fight.
They want to end the conflict as fast as possible.
So they're waiting for orders to figure out how to do it.
And if you get the wrong orders, You're gonna do what you gotta do to end the conflict.
If you do the wrong thing, that's the most devastating outcome.
I didn't think, just now, that's pretty deep.
People do not want, they want to end the conflict.
It's just like, same with if you're being attacked at night.
It's not about, what do you do if you're being attacked?
It's not like, kill.
It's like, stop the threat.
That is what it is.
Get as far away from it, or whatever.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story from Newsweek.
Elon Musk's mom rushes to his defense.
She is furious with Joe Biden.
Well, the real story is that Joe Biden is targeting Elon Musk.
The deep state is targeting Elon Musk.
And now, Elon's mom is calling out Joe Biden, saying, I am the mother of Elon Musk.
His goal is to make this world a better place.
POTUS wants to stop him.
Have you any idea how furious I am?
People in other countries are proud of Elon and do not understand the US president's motive.
Please tell me how I should answer them.
seth weathers
That's the best mom tweet ever.
tim pool
President Biden stood at the White House podium and stated, Elon Musk is worth being looked at.
When asked how, he said, there's lots of ways.
There certainly are.
The DOJ, FAA, FTC, NLRB, SDNY, and FWS have all taken action.
The FCC now joins them.
It is obvious that the federal government is illegally and unconstitutionally targeting Elon Musk over his political actions.
seth weathers
Who is Brennan Carter, FCC?
Who is that?
tim pool
I don't know if he's the former.
Let me pull him up.
He might be the head of the FCC.
He is the commissioner for the FCC.
seth weathers
What the hell?
tim pool
And he's been calling out the FCC quite a bit for the actions they've been taking.
luke rudkowski
And he's announcing the FCC now joins them.
tim pool
Yep.
unidentified
Wow.
seth weathers
That's an incredible threat.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, yeah.
No, that's huge.
That's major.
And you know it's business when your mom goes on social media and tries to protect you and scold the people attacking you.
seth weathers
But that's incredible thuggery from our government.
We are full-on Soviet-style authoritarians.
He writes, I dissent.
Oh, that's right.
He dissent.
Okay, good.
tim pool
He says, the FCC adds itself to the growing list of federal agencies engaging in the regulatory harassment of Elon Musk.
I dissent.
seth weathers
Good for him.
tim pool
Yo, man.
luke rudkowski
But now he says the FCC is going to be investigating them.
tim pool
And he says he's dissenting to it.
unidentified
He, he, this guy, this guy's called out the Biden- He's just one of one of however many on the board or whatever it is.
tim pool
Or whatever it might be, but uh, yo, they're going after Elon, man.
luke rudkowski
Absolutely.
tim pool
And, and this is why I, I, Elon's gonna double down.
unidentified
God bless him.
tim pool
They've declared war on a guy with means.
Why is Alex Jones back?
Because they kept, look, the advertising, Elon didn't want to bring Alex Jones back, because he didn't want to lose advertisers.
Advertisers pull out and he goes, screw it, Alex, you're back.
seth weathers
There is nothing more dangerous than a man with nothing left to lose.
I'm not saying Elon Musk has nothing left to lose, but he had nothing left to lose when it came to advertising.
tim pool
I suppose it's fair to say there's nothing more dangerous than the wealthiest man on the planet with nothing left to lose.
seth weathers
Yes, yes.
That's the ultimate version of that, for sure.
tim pool
Or who doesn't fear loss.
ian crossland
This is so crazy, man.
The United States government, I think, has such a dumb, obvious thing, hubris.
It's not that powerful.
I know it is probably the most powerful government on earth, but it's one of so many powerful governments.
You can't win everything.
You're trying to defend Venezuela, as well as the Ukraine, as well as Israel.
Now you want to go after your richest citizen.
What the hell are you doing to yourself?
I want it to be good.
I want it to be a force of good on earth.
luke rudkowski
I think Elon is also... We're a little ways off of being a force of good on earth.
What kind of drugs are you smoking if you think government can't be good?
ian crossland
He said he wants it to.
seth weathers
He said he wants it to.
Government can't be good.
luke rudkowski
Government has never been good.
It's always horrible.
It's always bad.
But I think Elon is banking on a major election shift because if, let's just say, a Republican gets into the executive office, He's going to make sure all of these investigations go away ... but if Joe Biden is elected these investigations will ... continue and they will try to topple and destroy the only ... platform that allows people to talk freely to each other and ... expose the Psyops as the Psyops happen Twitter is is the ... place you go to get on the ground breaking news coverage ... of events that happen now and what better way to call out the ... next I up the next kind of major event the next the next big.
Pearl Harbor-like event, then of course be on social media, and you see it called out right there in real time.
So I think he's understanding that there is going to be a big political shift.
He's banking on the Republicans.
The Republicans probably will win, and then he's going to be saved by them.
seth weathers
Because there is still a lot of fear of, you know, Apple could come in and kill off Twitter X.
As an app.
And that is a major, major issue.
luke rudkowski
Google can too.
seth weathers
Absolutely.
All these things.
And that's where it was too big to fail, quote unquote.
Correct.
tim pool
Functionally, but people would, Apple would never do it because people would ditch their iPhones.
seth weathers
A lot of people would.
I mean, we still can't get Republicans to vote in primaries, so I don't know how far they're willing to go to fight for things.
I agree with you to a percentage of them.
tim pool
Because screen time for X is so high, it's not a question of, I'm gonna take a stand, it's a question of, oh man, what did they say?
I gotta get a different phone.
seth weathers
Yeah.
tim pool
It's not even a question.
seth weathers
Or let's just use the web version or whatever.
Yeah.
tim pool
If Apple removed... But it'll hurt traffic.
It would, but a lot of people would be like, yo, I'm on this app 24-7, WTF, mate.
unidentified
Yeah.
seth weathers
I'd like ruin my life.
I'm going to watch it all day long on Twitter just to teach the government a lesson or Apple.
tim pool
This is why they made threads.
They were hoping people would switch, but they will not.
seth weathers
No one cared.
luke rudkowski
Well, this is why there's even talks of Elon creating his own phone.
And if he does, then, of course, when Apple bans him, everyone's gonna go there.
seth weathers
But then his networks.
What networks are those phones gonna operate on?
luke rudkowski
T-Mobile?
Verizon?
Probably.
T-Mobile works with everybody.
They're like, screw it.
Cricket?
Like, let's make it happen.
Starlink?
unidentified
But he has Starlink, too, so he could merge his phone with Starlink.
luke rudkowski
Well, he can't now, but if he could, That would be the ultimate.
seth weathers
That would give us true, that's where we're headed.
That would be incredible.
tim pool
I think Starlink would have the capabilities of... I'd imagine a phone could get a megabit per second through Starlink, low orbit.
I mean, the Starlink... He'd have to expand it greatly.
No, no, I don't think so.
The current Starlink modules are small, are very small.
seth weathers
No, no, I'm saying you have to span capacity where they're at.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
seth weathers
You have to have more of it out there.
So I'm saying for it to have connectivity.
tim pool
I wonder what its current load could, what they could handle.
But I imagine they could easily get texting.
Texting, no question.
Starlink could easily handle text messages.
ian crossland
What would the delay?
I mean, these are questions I don't expect anyone here to know.
tim pool
No, it's low latency.
It's like 35 milliseconds.
unidentified
Oh, that's good.
tim pool
That was the point of Starlink.
seth weathers
Yeah.
ian crossland
Satellite phones.
That's definitely the future.
Terrestrial phones are too vulnerable.
These landlines can be just blown up by a meteor strike.
I mean, the ones up in orbit.
Yeah, they're way safer in orbit, I think.
luke rudkowski
Apple already has a feature where you could connect to a satellite in case of emergencies when you have no cell phone signal.
tim pool
Yeah.
And for 10 years plus now, they've had two-way satellite texting devices.
ian crossland
You know Elon's got that in mind, that he's trying to merge all these things into one X unit, like the starships, the satellites, the phones, the social media, what else?
The tunnels are going to be the shape of a big X underground, you're going to go through big X's.
No, just kidding, they'll probably be circles.
tim pool
You saw those videos of the tunnels they have in LA?
ian crossland
No, I haven't seen them yet.
tim pool
You go into this narrow tunnel in your Tesla and it can bypass traffic and- Self-drives.
Yeah, it's pretty terrifying.
seth weathers
Yeah.
tim pool
Those tiny tunnels, I would not want to get stuck in one of those things.
ian crossland
Are they automated?
Like, do they carry your car, or do you just have to drive through them?
tim pool
Your car drives itself through them.
ian crossland
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Kind of.
unidentified
Actually, it's like a little sled thing.
His final product is a sled thing.
tim pool
You drive the car on the sled thing and then that automates the whole process.
ian crossland
So it's all running on its own rails.
seth weathers
You don't have to worry about driving.
tim pool
I would not want to go on one of those things.
ian crossland
Yeah, neither would I. But if you live in L.A.
and you have to face traffic, you might want to.
Traffic in L.A.
is nuts, dude.
One day I spent three hours in traffic going like 10 miles or 17 miles.
seth weathers
What's the fear of going in the tunnel?
You're going to get stuck in the middle of it or that little thing's just going to shoot you right in the middle of the side?
Yeah, for a long time, huh?
unidentified
Yeah.
seth weathers
That'd be rough.
tim pool
Real rough.
What's their ventilation in that thing?
I don't even like the tunnel, like the Lincoln Tunnel, you know?
seth weathers
Yeah.
tim pool
It's not like I'm worried about it.
I drove through it hundreds of times.
I'm just like, those long, super narrow, compressed tunnels?
I don't know about that.
seth weathers
I was talking to someone about this with buildings, skyscrapers.
We're going to come a time.
We have a crisis of competency coming.
We're already kind of there, but we're really going to be there in 20 to 30 years, a crisis of competency.
And I worry about the people.
They just don't care about a loss of life over there.
today, what's going to happen to those skyscrapers in 30 or 40 years?
Go meet the average person that's doing things anywhere in America these days,
and it's going to give me concern about being on the 104 of a building built by
unidentified
these people. You can look at China today right now and see that happening in real
seth weathers
time and see the buildings that are falling because people were skirting
unidentified
around these little like building codes, etc.
seth weathers
They just don't care about a loss of life over there. It's a little different, but I think it's like
more of a they have probably or they do have more competency when it comes to engineering those.
Will the Democrats be able to do it during this election cycle?
Will they be successful?
Can they stop him?
Can they stop Twitter?
luke rudkowski
Yeah, so just to go back to the topic here, I think there's a race to destroy Elon Musk.
Will the Democrats be able to do it during this election cycle?
Will they be successful?
Can they stop him?
Can they stop Twitter?
What do you guys think?
tim pool
And at this pace, Trump's gonna get elected, and then he's going to say, thank you, Elon, and Elon's gonna reap the rewards.
luke rudkowski
Yep.
And he's gonna say, oh, all these investigations?
What investigations?
Yep.
And rightfully so, because he's being targeted, he's being attacked.
But I think Elon is playing also a different kind of gambit as well when it comes to the defense contractors, when it comes to the carbon emissions, when it comes to all the ties that he has.
Someone needs to ask Elon about Wernher von Braun's book.
complex and to the defensive capabilities that he's giving Ukraine and Israel and
the United States in the Antarctica right now. So I believe that's one of the
reasons why he is still not officially kind of taken out, officially stopped,
tim pool
because the Pentagon needs him. Someone needs to ask Elon about Wernher von Braun's book. What's the book called?
What is it, like Mars I don't remember.
But it's where the colony of Mars, the government has, uh, the person in charge is called Elon.
ian crossland
Oh yeah!
tim pool
And it was written in 1948, before he was born.
ian crossland
Um, that's wild.
I wonder if May knew that and named Elon and then told him, like, you'll do a colonize Mars.
tim pool
That's what I was saying, like, you must colonize Mars.
And he was like, yes, mother.
ian crossland
Like they told Jesus, your father is God.
And he was like, oh, really?
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
Well, I think he ran off for a little while.
unidentified
When he was 14.
seth weathers
True story.
unidentified
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
seth weathers
Allegedly.
ian crossland
He just bounced out.
I wonder if Joseph gave him his blessing.
Oh, Elon, you're talking about Elon or Jesus?
seth weathers
No, we're talking about Jesus, I think.
Right?
tim pool
Yeah.
seth weathers
Everybody was kind of pissed at him when he got back.
He was like, I was just doing my work.
ian crossland
Hey, man, sometimes the forest calls you.
You just got to go east.
seth weathers
Well, he's actually hanging out with villagers, but yeah, that's awesome.
ian crossland
That's like Siddhartha.
He just disappeared from his life as a prince and went to hang out with the commoners for a long time.
Then he became the Buddha later in life.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
I want to know this.
Okay.
We're colonizing Mars.
How are we going to do it?
Is it going to be a corporatocracy?
Is that where this whole world is headed, is corporatocracy?
tim pool
So that's why the fascinating thing about Wernher von Braun's book, we were talking about it last week, is that he says the person in charge is called the Elon.
And I'm like, imagine what happens with SpaceX's Mars colonization project.
Elon Musk is the boss.
He's in charge.
He controls the finances and the resources.
So when people are on Mars, they're going to say, hey, what are we doing with this new shipment of cargo?
Ask Elon.
And say, OK, Elon's going to get older and older and older.
Eventually, he's going to say, I'm too old to keep doing this.
And then he's going to pass on.
And some guy is going to be like, Elon passed. Who's in charge now? Well, the next guy we
have is, you know, is Bill.
Now we need someone who's going to be the next Elon Musk.
Who's going to be our Elon Musk?
And someone's going to be like, I think Rick would be a good Elon.
And that's how Elon turns from a name into a title.
ian crossland
Or it could be an AI that we call Elon.
That we just kind of, as a thanks to Elon for everything he did.
seth weathers
I don't have to live on Mars.
It just seems... I don't like that.
ian crossland
Even in tunnels?
tim pool
You don't have to.
unidentified
Yeah, no.
tim pool
But people who are born there are gonna love it.
seth weathers
You think they're gonna love it?
unidentified
Yeah.
seth weathers
In their little tunnels like he's talking about?
tim pool
Yes.
Because it's all they'll know.
seth weathers
Yeah, that obviously has a huge impact.
I'm more of a beach kind of guy, to be honest.
I hope we can keep things cool here.
tim pool
Subterranean domes.
Yeah, there's nuclear silos you can live in that have fake beaches.
Yep.
It's crazy.
Mars has like... It's like a big cylindrical thing with like 16 floors and one of the floors has like this big curved fake beach.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
Mars has the sun, like a good fake sun.
Fake sun, yeah.
seth weathers
Can I get a tan of this fake sun?
No.
Oh, damn.
ian crossland
Mars has like flood striations on the surface all over the planet.
Not all, literally all of it.
tim pool
The gravitation is too weak though, so it can't, it struggles to maintain an atmosphere.
ian crossland
Yeah, the core is still liquid.
It's just got an outer layer of, I think, nickel that's blocking the magnetic field right now.
It's messing with the field.
There's like a 2020 science article about it.
tim pool
I think we should nuke the moon to alter its trajectory so that over the span of several decades it crashes into Mars.
ian crossland
My guess is, you know the Marianas, oh God, what is that, that big trench on Mars?
Mars giant trench.
It's just a tear in the surface of the Mars trench tear.
It's the biggest chasm on Mars and it's like Valles Marineris.
It was like, it looks like a scar, like something hit that planet, ripped it open and then magma just came out of it and just spewed all into the atmosphere.
All the water just, giant global flood catastrophe and then it just evaporated and then the iron oxide in the In the magma fell to back down to the surface as dust, and now it's coated the surface as this red iron rust, and underneath it is all this ice!
And so, if we can heat it up rapidly, I got faith that it'll come back to life.
luke rudkowski
Is graphene going to play a role?
ian crossland
Absolutely!
Uh, Elon said to nuke the poles, which I thought was an interesting concept.
tim pool
But my understanding of the problem is the atmosphere is too thin, gravity is too weak to maintain it, so even nuking the poles would not solve the problem.
ian crossland
You could fire lasers at it, just heat it up with, like, electro-lasers.
tim pool
What about, like, a graphene superstructure surrounding Mars to create an artificial atmosphere?
ian crossland
Like a cyber-dome?
tim pool
But surrounding the whole planet.
ian crossland
Yeah, it'd be a lattice network.
unidentified
Right.
ian crossland
With like magnetic fields and stuff like that.
Yep.
And then redirecting heat.
Like you could hit lasers into that and then have it maybe, maybe just... Oh yeah, you could create potentially a... That's right.
tim pool
That's the future.
ian crossland
Suitable habitat.
tim pool
And it's like a, it's like a stage .01 Dyson sphere.
unidentified
Okay.
ian crossland
Yeah, once you have, um, drone construction, swarm construction, you'll have, like, a hundred million drones all working in synergy, building these horrifically large structures in space, because gravity is not an- and space isn't- it doesn't matter how big it is, you just have three hundred trillion drones working together to construct it really quick, and then you can put these little arms and, like, laser cutters and stuff, and they'll be moving things into position.
tim pool
Yeah, the future's gonna be wild.
ian crossland
Yeah, I just wanna make sure we're all here to see it.
luke rudkowski
It's going to be exactly like Idiocracy.
seth weathers
Are you eating steak and lifting weights?
Because that's going to be the key to your longevity.
unidentified
Okay.
ian crossland
I lifted weights today.
luke rudkowski
I love it.
seth weathers
See?
ian crossland
You'll be around for it.
I did arms.
I did shoulders and pecs and biceps two days in a row, which might have been a mistake, but I just like doing it.
I like those.
What do you... You gotta skip a day.
seth weathers
You gotta recover.
luke rudkowski
I didn't want to.
Hold on.
A couple years ago, everyone thought we were going to have flying cars.
We have children that are eating Tide Pods.
Do you really think the future's bright?
Do you really think there's going to be, like, some kind of... We have all this... We can't even mention here on this broadcast... Yeah, we'll talk about it on the members only.
ian crossland
I do think it's going to be bright, but it's like a birth.
Like, we're giving birth to the next evolution of the species, and before a birth, there's a contraction.
And I feel like we're about... If we're not going through the contraction right now, we're going to, and I don't want that to be a nuclear war.
I want it to be some kind of, like, You know, at least, like, I just don't want it to be a mass die-off, man.
We've got to be able to do something to preserve these people.
luke rudkowski
Well, the mass die-off is happening now.
It's called obesity.
The population is declining, and IQs are going down, too.
So, there's that.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
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ian crossland
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unidentified
Yeah, how did the 69 number come in?
ian crossland
It's pure coincidence.
tim pool
So it was originally $0.99, and there were people who were like, well, we think we could sell more of our new releases from lesser known artists if it was cheaper.
Then there were some other artists who were like, we're super famous, we could sell for whatever we want.
So they do $129.99 and $69.
We sell for $69 because we want the sales.
We're in that argument of like, hey, we're not an established large band.
We're trying to sell as many as possible.
Let's make it as cheap as possible for people to buy.
ian crossland
I think you can also spend as much as you want.
tim pool
No, you can buy one song.
ian crossland
You can't spend more?
You can spend more than 69?
You can choose to give more if you want.
Yeah, to support the company.
tim pool
Right.
I thought you meant you were saying you'd buy more than one.
No, no.
So it's like pay what you will.
You can give more than 69 cents if you want.
Here's what we want to do.
I think if we sell around 50,000 songs, we will be on the Billboard Hot 100 with our, you know, music industry mockery.
And that would be, like, the main goal.
If we sell 500,000, Michael Knowles, Jeremy Boring, Tim Pool, and Carter Banks will all get a gold record.
I don't know.
seth weathers
Devastating to the music industry.
Absolutely devastating.
I want to be a part of that devastation.
tim pool
Look, we wrote songs and it's just music.
Not everybody likes every band.
It's fine.
You don't have to like our music.
But when they emailed us saying, go F yourselves, I was just like, I get it.
The way the music industry is working right now is they are trying to remove the capability of new bands from entering without their approval.
ian crossland
I just talked with Dickie Barrett about it.
It's been like this since the 80s.
It's been like this all along.
tim pool
You have to bend the knee and kiss the pinky ring if you want access.
And now that we're building networks outside of their control, they're getting angry and telling us to F off.
ian crossland
It used to be who decided what got played on the radio.
tim pool
Our first song?
They didn't even track, like, one million of the plays.
They went, oops, sorry, too bad.
And that knocked us down.
We ended up being, like, number one in, like, digital sales, and we charted on a bunch of different, like, rock and alternative charts, and we would have probably been number one in a lot of different charts, but they accidentally said, oh man, this one didn't count.
And then we had to raise a stink about it.
Talk to Tom McDonald.
He's talked a lot about how they've just rejected his sales because they're desperately trying to prevent anybody from getting into their space without their say-so.
So, I don't think we're going to sell 500,000 of these things, but I believe the Daily Wire is going to help in pushing as well.
But it would be the greatest thing ever to have a gold record.
seth weathers
Yeah, it would.
ian crossland
We should put it in a movie, in a Daily Wire movie.
tim pool
I'll talk to him about it.
ian crossland
Yeah, that's a good idea.
tim pool
Jeremy and Michael Knowles are in the video.
We put the commercial up at TimCastMusic on YouTube, and you can see that they de-aged themselves and made a fake video from the 60s.
It's fun.
We're gonna have fun.
But let's read some superchats first.
Alright.
TokenBlackGuy says, first.
Congratulations.
You are first.
Tom Forsythe says, being first is for losers.
ian crossland
Clever!
tim pool
Cleverly done, because you are second, in fact.
ian crossland
That was a risk.
tim pool
Token then asks, hey Tim, long time listener, any future plans to come down south possibly?
I'm a Louisiana native and you have a lot of followers down here.
Maybe we can find a time to do a show in Nolens.
ian crossland
Yeah, I've never been.
tim pool
I've never been either.
ian crossland
I'd love to go.
tim pool
It'd be fun.
ian crossland
You go there?
You're from the South.
seth weathers
I've actually never been down there.
A little too dark for me.
ian crossland
That's the time.
seth weathers
Yeah.
tim pool
Mardi Gras.
ian crossland
I did Mardi Gras in St.
Louis once.
tim pool
James G says, Seth, any updates on the Trump cans of your beer?
Not upset about any delays, just curious as to the new time frame for them to ship.
seth weathers
Yes.
So the Trump beer, we ended up selling a lot more of that than we originally expected, which is a good thing.
tim pool
Like millions of dollars, right?
seth weathers
Yes.
I think around two on the Trump beer.
Yeah.
A little insane.
So a little unexpected, but that is a great thing.
We appreciate people being patient.
So those have started going out.
It's in order of people who ordered.
It was originally a 45 day delay from the order to when it gets shipped.
That has been extended.
Check your spam.
So Big Tech does not like us very much.
So we've sent out updates on this to people who have ordered the Trump beer.
And for whatever magical reason, our order updates go to spam, which is not how that's supposed to work.
So please do that and be patient.
It is on the way.
tim pool
Right on.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, Tim, I watched Crowder's barbershop video.
It got me thinking about the need for and importance of community.
I love that that's the end goal for all these spots we're putting together.
Shout out, my guy.
Right on.
That's the point.
We want to do the Castbrew Coffee Shops so that y'all are meeting up and hanging out in person.
A space where you can hang out, talk about things, have the debates, have the conversations, play board games, whatever it may be.
This is the game plan, man.
Why are we doing this music?
Why are we doing coffee?
Imagine, as I've said it a million times for those that don't know, you walk into a coffee shop, they got two TVs on the walls left and right, and as you're waiting for your coffee, it's Steven Crowder playing.
It's Daily Wire, it's Timcast, it's Viva Frye, it's Thick Sex and Hammer.
And regular people who are not listening to these accurate reports and commentary will one day be like, oh this is pretty good, who is this?
And they're gonna be like, oh that's Steven Crowder.
And they're gonna go, oh yeah, never heard of him.
New subscriber.
And the idea is to have like a thousand locations.
So we want to just start popping these coffee shops up all over the place where people can hang out, and also regular people will be exposed to our media.
ian crossland
It'd be interesting if on the screen while people are playing there's a barcode that you can scan to go to the subscription page.
tim pool
Yeah, we could put a QR code.
I mean, everybody makes fun of CNN because they're the airport news network, but think about how powerful that was for them.
They were everywhere.
Hotel lobbies.
I want to take that.
So, you'll have a strip mall with a Walmart in it, and there will be a small Casper stand alone in the middle, and people will be like, I just want coffee, I don't know anything about it.
Oh, coffee?
Sure.
They walk in, and then you've got Tim Guestiro playing.
Or you've got Sticks, Hex, and Hammer talking.
ian crossland
Also, you can Bluetooth into the monitors, and they're all silent, but you can... No, we'll play the sound.
tim pool
Because if there's like eight different shows playing... It's not eight different shows, it's one show at a time.
ian crossland
Okay.
tim pool
So there will be five TVs all playing the same episode of Loud Earth Crowder.
ian crossland
Yep.
tim pool
And then regular people will be, like, sipping their coffee, and they'll be staring at me like, huh, how about that?
ian crossland
I was thinking about directed sound technology.
I don't know if you can have, like... Yes.
That's cool.
tim pool
So there could be, like, a seating area where if you sit down, you hear everything really well, and if you get up, it gets a little fuzzier as you walk away.
ian crossland
Because then you could have, like, movies.
tim pool
Relatively easy to do.
Yeah, you can do, like, sound cancellation.
unidentified
It's expensive to engineer that stuff.
ian crossland
Alright!
tim pool
Mast Mullet says, Great Culture War episode last Friday.
Eschatology is fascinating, but accepting Jesus as your saver is the most important thing.
Anyways, help remove a tumor from my dog's mouth.
Go fund me.
Sammy Boy's Dental Surgery.
Good luck, sir.
Good luck to Sammy.
ian crossland
Much love to your dog, brother.
Or Sammy's the dog.
tim pool
Jacob Paradis says, Not that I didn't trust you in the first place, Tim, but yesterday when PBD said there's going to be a cyber attack, my need to prep heightened.
Yeah, that's a part of that movie, Leave the World Behind.
seth weathers
That's what they were discussing, yeah.
tim pool
There's like a guy and there's a prepper and they're like, we need to go to the prepper and take his stuff.
I gotta tell you, man.
If you are prepping, and anybody knows you're prepping, when it all hits the fan, you're the mark.
So, you know, good luck out there.
luke rudkowski
Everyone's like, I'm coming to your house.
tim pool
And you think they're joking, they're not.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, they're not joking.
seth weathers
What is prepping?
I know nothing of this.
What?
luke rudkowski
You don't know about spirit cooking?
unidentified
You don't know about prepping?
luke rudkowski
What is this, conservative dad?
Conservative, you gotta get down the rabbit hole.
What are you doing, bro?
ian crossland
He just doesn't know anything about it.
seth weathers
I've lost all my guns.
luke rudkowski
Do you know what the Bohemian Grove is?
seth weathers
Look, all my guns were lost in a boating accident and I don't know what prepping is.
Stay away.
That's all I know.
tim pool
Say, uh, Ursovite says, you keep saying Texas didn't want to secede but was forced to because of geography.
Wrong.
Texas booted Sam Houston from office because he was opposed to secession.
Texas wanted it.
Texas was just as angry.
Uh, well, I'll clarify.
I'm not saying the, they didn't want to secede.
They were forced to.
I'm saying geography was a principal reason for why they wanted to secede.
They were, the Confederacy was next to them.
That were their trade partners in the immediate.
And they said, this makes the most sense.
There you go.
I think that was part of you, like Ulysses S. Grant wrote about that.
The Emperor's Champion says, I say offer Bud Light clemency, and the moment they do something woke and stupid, boycott them and show these companies what happens when they get woke.
Busy says, your thoughts on Matt Walsh's take on your Bud Light stance?
Also, have you read the Jaffe memo in regards to ways to control population?
Seems like it's all come to pass.
I have not, and we did address the Matt Walsh segment.
I do think one of the things what my perspective is based on owning a business and doing marketing and having done marketing consistently for like I don't know 15 some odd years or longer and what I see with Bud Light is there's going to come a point where they say this market is closed to us how can we increase sales and they're going to target other other political market spaces If conservatives say there's nothing you can ever do to win us back, they'll say, fine, then we'll try to win some other people over who are more susceptible.
unidentified
That could result in them saying... I think they just drop and they give the money to Corona.
tim pool
Possibly.
And then Corona sponsors a bunch of Pride events, too.
seth weathers
They already do!
unidentified
I know.
tim pool
And so the extra money that Bud Light could be spending on UFC will go to Pride events.
seth weathers
They're not going to... Look, that was a token offering to say, hey, dumb conservatives, we think you're stupid, so we're going to give it to what we see as your redneck god, Dana White and Kid Rock, and you'll be happy forever because you're all retarded.
tim pool
But they're saying it to everyone.
seth weathers
But they already sponsor and do those kinds of... They've been sponsoring boxing for years.
unidentified
Right.
seth weathers
I don't think it was a whole new market for them, really.
They just did it and made a big deal out of it because it was Dana White.
Dana White, who's not even a Republican, by the way.
tim pool
Right, so the issue is either the Bud Light battle is over, it's done, move on, have a nice day, and there's no reason to ever talk about it, or you need to be on the offensive and make statements about Bud Light and keep the pressure up.
But that's not happening.
Kid Rock said it's over, we gave them a black eye, that's what they deserved, now it's time to move on.
Dana White saying they're the best, buy their product.
seth weathers
I think it's up to $105 million.
I hear this from people all the time.
They're like, oh, did you hear he sold out?
Blah blah blah.
I still like Dan White, but he sold out.
That's what I'm hearing.
tim pool
I think people need to boycott UFC.
seth weathers
Yeah, that's going to be a tough one.
tim pool
Exactly, and that's why Bud Light did it.
Bud Light knows you will not boycott UFC.
Luke won't do it.
luke rudkowski
I like watching this.
unidentified
Luke!
seth weathers
Seriously!
ian crossland
Unbelievable!
luke rudkowski
I never said I would.
unidentified
I'm admittedly in this.
tim pool
So you seize the narrative from them, scream in the woke faces, they gave us what we wanted and we win, or you say, I boycott UFC.
ian crossland
I'll point out how Dana looked like a goofball, laughing and smiling and telling people to drink gallons of alcohol.
I'm like, what?
tim pool
For sure, for sure.
ian crossland
Yeah, super fake.
tim pool
But the fact that people won't boycott UFC, and I gotta tell you, this show does not have the influence to even consider that.
Right?
Anybody watching this show can comment and say whatever they want about the boycott, by all means, please do so, but y'all know, UFC will never be boycotted.
And people will make up excuses for why they shouldn't have to boycott UFC.
They're gonna say, oh, it's a false equivalence.
I mean, UFC isn't doing the same thing.
Aligning with a foreign corporation that pushed trans ideology on children?
You're saying UFC is in the clear?
Okay, have a nice day.
I don't know.
seth weathers
No, I agree in that sense.
You can't get Republicans to vote in Republican primaries.
ian crossland
Scott Pressler can.
seth weathers
He's done an incredible job, which is why we teamed up with him.
ian crossland
Oh, awesome.
seth weathers
Yeah.
So our next ultra right beer can actually has a QR code.
When you scan it, it's going to go to Scott Pressler's organization to register people to vote.
ian crossland
That guy's awesome.
seth weathers
He crushes it.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Let's grab some more super chats.
What have we here?
unidentified
Let's see.
tim pool
What do we have here?
Vash says, bro, I hope it all works out and dude is legit, but you drank something that someone handed you out of the back of their van unsolicited.
Did it say free candy on the side?
unidentified
Wait.
luke rudkowski
It said puppies.
unidentified
It did.
seth weathers
The THC number is higher than that, though.
tim pool
So the dude from Zenjoy was actually, I believe, doing a delivery to a local market.
And he was talking with the owners about the product drop-off, and he was like, yeah, I've got some if you want it.
ian crossland
Did he know you guys beforehand?
unidentified
Yeah.
Oh, cool.
tim pool
Yeah, he recognized me and was like, oh man, would you try some of my products?
ian crossland
I'll be honest, that stuff's delicious and I want another one.
tim pool
That's a good case.
ian crossland
Should I not drink too many of them?
Is that okay?
Luke, you're the Ashwagandha guy.
tim pool
Yeah, I have a lavender one.
unidentified
Yeah, thanks.
luke rudkowski
I'm taking a break from Ashwagandha.
People should take breaks.
ian crossland
Like a month at a time kind of thing?
luke rudkowski
No, longer than that.
I take a break for like six months to a year.
ian crossland
This one is, oh, it's also got the lemon balm.
tim pool
Yeah, I'm not concerned about a dude who is dropping off product to a store and then I took a case of the product that he was bringing to the store.
seth weathers
That would have been pretty well planned if this was the moment to take out the Timcast.
ian crossland
Oh, I like the honey.
They use honey, too.
That's cool.
Yeah, it's tea.
It goes good in the Spindrift, which is also a drink that I like.
tim pool
I just respect the hustle, man.
Zenjoy is his drink.
And he was working really hard, working on the back of his van.
That's the American spirit right there.
ian crossland
I'll tell you the alchemy of this.
If you have Spindrift or some other delicious sparkling water with real fruit juice and you add another drink to it, like a kombucha or perhaps a Zenjoy, it's a nice experience.
tim pool
But he said, and this is what got me, he was like, You know, he wanted to help first responders, firefighters, police officers relax, because he knows it's a very stressful job, and he goes and he gives them out to them for free, and then I was like, oh, you sold me.
Easy.
Definitely.
We'll shout you out.
That's awesome.
Thank you.
ian crossland
Cool stuff.
tim pool
But really, really, all that matters is the dude was on the hustle, man.
He was working hard.
He's an entrepreneur.
I really, yeah.
ian crossland
We should order like a hundred of these or something.
tim pool
Definitely, we should order a bunch.
Yeah, I think we will.
We'll order a bunch of them.
They're good.
But I think Luke was saying be careful with the actual Gandhi.
You can't do too much.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, just do it.
seth weathers
That makes me want to do it.
Now I'm going to look into this more.
tim pool
They sell gummies.
You can buy at the store.
It's just like an herb.
luke rudkowski
It's in a lot of supplements, so you just want to make sure you're not consistently taking it more than a month.
Some doctors, mainline professionals, say three months.
I say one month, just to be safe.
ian crossland
But you're not a medical professional, so it's just... All right.
tim pool
We got an important one here.
Dylan Vestasian says, what's the carb content of ultra-ripe beer?
seth weathers
I don't want to get this wrong.
135, I believe.
tim pool
Carbs?
seth weathers
Oh, no, I'm sorry.
I was like, damn!
That's like survival food!
unidentified
No, no, no.
seth weathers
Calm down.
Everyone, stop that.
unidentified
No.
seth weathers
Talking calories here.
So it is not a light beer, by the way.
It's a full lager, but it's a light full lager.
unidentified
Yeah.
seth weathers
And I should have the carbs in front of me.
I'd have to dig through my email to find that.
We've had a little sip of that.
tim pool
It's probably like 17 or something.
unidentified
I don't know.
seth weathers
I don't remember exactly what it is.
I'm not going to say something wrong.
People are losing their minds.
luke rudkowski
Is there any fluoride in there?
Most beers have a lot of fluoride.
seth weathers
No.
ian crossland
Uh oh, are you sure about that?
seth weathers
The water comes out of Florida?
You're going to have to talk to Ron DeSantis about that.
tim pool
Is it tap water?
seth weathers
No, but okay, so it's heated and boiled to a point where he's going to have a problem with any freaking thing I say about it.
ian crossland
I'm taking notes right now, ultralight, organic filters.
seth weathers
It's distilled water?
I guess that would be considered, if it's heated and boiled, does that make it distilled?
tim pool
I believe so.
ian crossland
No, distilled as if it boils and then recondenses.
If it just boils it, you'll kill some bacteria and stuff, but it won't remove fluoride.
You need like silver filters to get fluoride out of the water.
seth weathers
Silver filters?
luke rudkowski
Stuff like that?
seth weathers
Seriously?
tim pool
Reverse osmosis.
ian crossland
It's not easy, but it's pretty cool.
You could sell an unfluoridated version for three times the price.
luke rudkowski
Maybe you could work on some kind of health alternative together.
seth weathers
I'm actually open to this.
There's some things that we are working on that I can't say right now on air, but I will talk to you about it after.
luke rudkowski
I have a good idea.
seth weathers
I know what I want to do.
Let's talk about it off-air.
Let's talk about it off-air.
luke rudkowski
It's something healthy that I take.
seth weathers
We would agree on this.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, so let's partner maybe.
tim pool
Let's do something.
seth weathers
Let's talk about this off-air.
unidentified
Ultra-right bone marrow beer juice with purified beef liver smoothie, baby.
ian crossland
Let's do it.
luke rudkowski
Hey, R1.
Arwan had a beef liver smoothie.
It was incredible.
It was really, really, really good.
Liver, I find disgusting.
They discontinued it.
The liver smoothie at Arwan, they partnered with Paul Saladino.
Really good.
seth weathers
I like Paul Saladino a lot.
luke rudkowski
Let's talk about it.
Let's do the Luke Grodowski beef liver smoothie.
ian crossland
If you get Luke's face on a can, dude, I'm so in it.
luke rudkowski
My nose won't fit.
tim pool
Faust says, just bought $70 sample of packs from Zenjoy to bring to work.
unidentified
GG.
tim pool
This product is for the boys.
unidentified
Boys, boys, boys, boys, boys.
ian crossland
It's really good.
The lavender, you can really taste the lavender.
It's spectacular.
luke rudkowski
Lavender's not good for your testosterone.
ian crossland
Well, I'm just having a little bit.
unidentified
Mmm.
seth weathers
Doc Holliday says... All that work in the gym.
tim pool
Doc Holliday says, one year ago, Luke said he will never vote for Trump.
ian crossland
Ah!
luke rudkowski
I don't think I said that.
seth weathers
Let him live.
It's okay.
luke rudkowski
I think we should be critical.
I think we should hold everyone's feet to the fire.
I don't know exactly what I said.
Please show me what I said, and then I'll be more able to, of course, react to it.
But everyone deserves to be criticized.
tim pool
Cain Abel says, Luke, who did you vote for in 2020?
luke rudkowski
Trump.
tim pool
You voted for Trump in 2020?
Yeah, see, what are people talking about?
seth weathers
Yeah.
tim pool
Doc Holliday says, $20 for Tim calling Luke out and exposing his Trump derangements.
ian crossland
I voted for Trump!
tim pool
He said he voted for Trump!
unidentified
I voted for Trump!
tim pool
Jay Rob says, Tim, did you happen to see the video of the former FBI agent warning Vivek to be very careful, implying that someone might try to off him?
I saw it, you know, I don't know, what are you supposed to think about that, right?
ian crossland
What was it, a video of the actual FBI agent?
tim pool
It's a guy who met him and was like, be careful, because, you know.
ian crossland
That's reasonable for anybody running for president.
tim pool
Dark days.
I'd like to know the scenario the movie came up with that Texas and California would be united.
luke rudkowski
That's how they get you to watch the movie.
unidentified
Right.
luke rudkowski
It's smart.
seth weathers
That's how Tim gets you to watch the movie.
He's the secret.
luke rudkowski
He's been the salesman all along.
ian crossland
It takes people to speak up, like Vivek and Elon, it takes people to speak up, but it takes people to build the systems quietly as well, because if you're always just pushing people up into the front of the line, those are the most vulnerable, as well as the bravest.
So there's a lot of engineers and things that are building decentralized systems that can back up the wants of these people for freedom.
tim pool
All right, William H has pre-ordered on iTunes and Amazon.
Usually wouldn't do that, but I wanted to inflate that middle finger to the music industry.
Cheers, fellas.
Yeah, so just to quickly reiterate again, the original idea was a song called, Is This What You Want?
And it was supposed to serve as this, like, cheesy song where it's like, Is this what you want, girl?
And it's like, just like club synth pop.
ian crossland
Is this what you need?
Oh, my voice is cracking.
tim pool
Yeah, just really, really, really, really bad.
ian crossland
It's gonna be killer.
tim pool
And the real point was that the, is this what you want question was the insult to the music industry.
Like, is this what you want from us?
Is this what we have to do?
And so you will stop insulting us.
And then, uh, when I saw it together again from the Daily Wire, I was like, no, no.
We're gonna do a modern- it's like in the style of The Weeknd.
Like, we're basically- the whole thing is a parody of Blinding Lights.
ian crossland
Type a one in chat if you want to see me, Tim, and Carter do Is This What You Want in the style of Backstreet Boys.
Well, no.
tim pool
Not Backstreet Boys.
That's old school.
seth weathers
You're like, wait a second.
tim pool
That's old school.
Why would I want to do oldies?
We want to do more like Post Malone.
seth weathers
Can you do a heavy metal one in the future?
tim pool
I feel like that would go well.
seth weathers
In the future?
tim pool
I mean, sure.
We've got heavier rock songs.
A lot of the stuff we're putting out is just basic rock.
And they tell us to screw off and go off ourselves.
So we're like, let's make modern synth pop as an FU to them.
And we'll team up with The Daily Wire with their FU, combine them.
And here's the thing.
It's more of an inside joke.
The song doesn't directly say F you or anything like that.
ian crossland
It's beautiful.
tim pool
We're just doing it to get it on the billboard and be like, boom, there you go, in your faces.
Like, the idea is to make something that charts well enough to where they have no choice but to write about it.
ian crossland
Devastating.
tim pool
I want somebody, I'm not gonna name the news outlets, but a bunch of them told us to F off.
Like, quote, go F yourselves.
Some of us called us, like, MAGA chuds and things like this.
I want their editor to be like, I need someone to write this up.
And they're gonna go, no, no!
seth weathers
They gamed the system.
tim pool
Yes, and this is why I was like teaming up with Jeremy Boring and Michael Knowles will be bigger
because how do they reject a story now about all of us?
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
It's one thing when they're like screw Tim Pool, we're not going to write this up.
It's another thing when they're like no Jeremy, we're not going to work with you.
Now all of us have this song.
Could you imagine if we got a gold record off it?
seth weathers
Yeah, it'll, it'll, the, the, they'll come from the perspective that you gamed the system.
No, I understand.
It is great.
But that will be their narrative.
ian crossland
If it gets in a movie, does it contribute to the gold record sales?
If they what?
Do movie tickets, if it's in a movie, do tickets to the movie count?
tim pool
They have to buy the song or listen to the song.
If you listen to the song one time, that's great.
If you buy the song, it's equivalent to 150 plays.
That's why purchases are so powerful.
And a lot of people, a lot of big artists struggle to get any sales at all.
Like, the big artists obviously are getting like 200,000 sales on their albums when they release them, but the average artist, even like, look, you name a mid-level band you've heard of that's playing big festivals, even potentially headlining, and they're not getting sales at all.
They're getting put in rotation by labels.
The plays that they get, like, when you look at the charts, you're like, how did that artist I've never heard of hit the Billboard Hot 100?
The label that owns the rights to the music goes to the streaming platforms and says, if you want top artist, you must put lower artist in rotation.
Rotation guarantees they'll hit the charts.
Because, and that's how people find music.
These big industries tell us to screw off and they will not.
I mean, look, We release a song, we're number one on iTunes worldwide, we're number one in digital sales, and we are not appearing anywhere on any of these platforms or stations in terms of their trending or anything.
Even on YouTube, they weren't properly categorizing us, and the tracking said our video didn't qualify.
I'll put it this way.
Look at Tom MacDonald.
He's talked about it quite a bit.
He puts a song out and gets 5 million hits in a week, and they're like, nope, you don't chart.
They're just, they're just basically trying to stonewall.
I'm trying, I'm like, let's just flick them off and make it undeniable.
They cannot win this one.
We're gonna win this one.
seth weathers
I love that.
ian crossland
Yeah, we gotta get it to play globally, overseas.
That's where the markets, because these American markets, it's inclusive.
tim pool
So what happened was, what was that one song that was on the charts for months?
What was it, Sunroof?
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Yeah, I think it was called Sunroof.
And that's what we were like, this is it.
This is what the industry wants, and we'll put out, and we'll go international.
So let's make some club mix garbage, this is what you want.
And then just blast it with marketing.
ian crossland
I can see Carter's music going hot in Germany.
Or, like, France.
Like, it's definitely Europe.
luke rudkowski
He's not being an asshole!
ian crossland
Not yet.
But have you seen his arms, man?
He's ripped.
tim pool
Nice to meet you, Carter.
unidentified
Alright.
tim pool
Sangin Reaper says, instead of Bud Light giving money to UFC, the boycott stops and they donate to the families of the victims of the Nashville shooting who were impacted by the trans ideology that they pushed.
Well, there you go.
That would just require a coordinated effort.
So, that would mean right now, instead of just saying, we will continue the boycott, it's, what's the next move?
If the argument, as Ian has pointed out, is that they're fleeing the battlefield, you can't just stand there.
Now we have to say, what's phase two in the, we are mad at Bud Light?
seth weathers
Shoot them in the back as they flee?
I don't know.
ian crossland
That's probably not the end.
It just depends on what you want to do.
tim pool
Well, right, but what does that mean?
What does that literally mean?
Does it mean making videos about Bud Light?
Does it mean demanding Bud Light apologize?
Does it mean... I don't know.
I don't know what it means.
Does it mean going to bars and telling them to boycott Bud Light?
ian crossland
It's like, do you want to hurt their sales further, or are you satisfied with this dip so that they don't do it again in the future?
seth weathers
It's a pretty solid dip.
I think most people will be satisfied with that long term.
tim pool
Come April, the sales are going to normalize.
seth weathers
No, no, no.
The sales are not going to normalize.
tim pool
No, no, no.
Sales have normalized already.
seth weathers
They've normalized to the new low.
tim pool
Yes.
Six months, seven months ago they did.
seth weathers
I understand.
But that's not normalized for what they've been for decades now.
tim pool
That doesn't mean anything.
seth weathers
Yeah, it does.
It means less revenue.
tim pool
It means every man... I understand.
It means Ian's mom is going to say, but the boycott didn't work.
Okay.
I'm calling you out, Becky.
No, listen.
I am telling you this, I guarantee it, because Ian's told this story over and over again, and I think Ian would agree.
When the New York Times, MSNBC, and CNN report Bud Light sales have jumped to plus 2% and their stock is higher than ever, That's just admitting we're going to emit defeat on every lying narrative that the left-string media sends at us.
No, I'm saying what's the next move to counter this?
If your mom watched on, that doesn't mean anything to Ian's mom.
seth weathers
Well, I don't care about Ian's mom.
I don't know if that's your mom.
ian crossland
She's pretty badass.
tim pool
How do you win a culture war if you don't care about regular Americans?
seth weathers
No, I didn't say I didn't care about regular Americans.
tim pool
A regular American is going to watch CNN.
seth weathers
All she does is watch CNN and MSNBC.
tim pool
And so how do we win the narrative?
How do we win the culture war?
We need to take people who, right now, the narrative needs to be Indistinguishable, unequivocally, everyone goes, wow, Bud Light, they're done.
seth weathers
And you think you're going to win the narrative with Sean Strickland or any of these other alternatives?
tim pool
Bud Light needs to make a statement.
Either you say, right now we won, or you double down.
There is no do nothing.
seth weathers
But you think we saying we won here at Temcast is somehow going to get dispersed among MSNBC and CNN.
They're going to say, well, they won.
tim pool
Yes.
seth weathers
Temcast claimed it.
tim pool
Yes, I do.
The issue is, you're acting like I'm the only one saying it.
No, I'm saying I agree with Kid Rock.
seth weathers
I'm not saying you're the only one saying it.
Kid Rock comes out and says... No, but no one buys it from Kid Rock or Dana because... Then Conservatives lost.
You lost.
tim pool
You lose.
seth weathers
They always freaking lose because most Conservatives... Then don't try.
The best name of them starts with Pete Ingram.
And stop trying.
I'm not going to ever stop trying.
And that's why our company's given $150,000 this year, which is nothing.
tim pool
So what's phase two?
What's phase two?
seth weathers
Phase 2 is continue holding the line.
tim pool
That means do nothing.
seth weathers
If do nothing means stop buying a product you bought for 30 years in a lot of cases.
ian crossland
You could consider it a fortification tactic, so we've taken the line, they've fled, now we've fortified this area that we wanted.
tim pool
What I'm telling you is that come April, Bud Light is going to stage another frontal assault.
seth weathers
No, they're not going to do anything.
You think they're going to come out with the Dylan Mulvaney ad too?
tim pool
No, I'm telling you the media is going to report in April the boycott lost and people like Ian's mom are going to hear that and tell you it doesn't work.
They're going to go to the marketing departments at their companies and their tech outlets and say boycotts don't work.
seth weathers
And do you think Bud Light is going to say we won this so much we're coming out with the Dylan Mulvaney ad too?
tim pool
That's not what I said.
seth weathers
I'm asking.
That's what I'm asking.
tim pool
Let's actually argue what I'm saying.
Let's argue what I'm actually saying.
Which is what?
When CNN, the New York Times, MSNBC, and all these big media outlets that we are constantly battling with over narrative control, report to the average American, the boycott failed.
Their stock is back above where it was.
seth weathers
Their stock's already back!
tim pool
Exactly!
So you're declaring victory now?
And then they're going to say, and yes, you declare victory now because they just... One of the stocks is already back?
Because it came back because they gave us what we wanted.
unidentified
Then you- You can't- It happened two days ago or whatever the hell it was.
seth weathers
You can't say the stock didn't just come back in the last two days.
tim pool
The stock came back in November.
seth weathers
Before this happened?
tim pool
Before what happened?
The whole, uh, day of- The UFC- No, the UFC thing was November.
The stock started to rebound.
seth weathers
Within the last week, you're saying?
tim pool
No, no, no.
The stock rebounded in November, around the time the UFC deal was announced.
seth weathers
Around the time, or before or after?
tim pool
I mean, if you want to track day by day, you can go look at it.
seth weathers
Well, that's what we'd have to do to make an argument.
tim pool
So, the narrative is going to be, among average people who are working for big companies, conservatives can't hold a boycott.
This is going to happen, and I'm asking you what your plan is.
I think that... I won't even tell you what to do.
By all means, don't buy Bud Light.
I'm asking you, what is your plan?
seth weathers
Again, I think if you go back to if you're if you're gonna say the plan is that we if they are still down 20-something percent in April and so the media's gonna come out in April They're going to say we're up 2% I understand from being just like we've had to do with the nobody knows everything else No one knows that unless we're out there push it, but I'm just not gonna not tell the truth because I'm afraid No one ever said don't do that, that's not the argument.
tim pool
You can't, I'm just going to make a disclaimer afterwards.
The argument is, what is the plan for the media's play in April?
They will do this, what's your strategy?
seth weathers
The strategy is to give the opposite narrative, or to give the truth to what that is.
I'm not saying the truth always wins.
It doesn't always win.
unidentified
Right.
seth weathers
But I'm going to fight for the truth going forward.
That's our deal in this metaphor.
tim pool
That's not even, right, I don't disagree.
The point is, what is the strategy for competing against a widespread median area, especially
the beer industry.
We're going to see the beer tracking companies that reported the loss,
reporting Bud Light is recovering, their stock is up and their growth is here.
seth weathers
Okay, but I know the people in the beer industry, they're down a crap load of money right now.
They're not going to be able to, these distributors who are- What does that have to do with what I said?
These distributors who are down 30 something percent right now, if they're only down 20
something percent in a few months, they're not going to be able to pretend it's back.
They have advertising dollars.
tim pool
No one said they're going to pretend.
seth weathers
So per case of beer that is sold, they have a certain amount of money that they're giving back from these big distributors.
tim pool
So we want the message to be for all corporations, if you support Dylan Mulvaney, you will lose money.
seth weathers
Which would be exactly what that happens.
tim pool
Except come April, their stock's recovered and their sales are in growth.
seth weathers
A .02% sales growth is not enough to make up- I said 2%, but we're making up any number.
tim pool
But it doesn't matter.
The stock's recovered and the company is growing.
They're going to say the boycott's over.
seth weathers
You cannot say the company- you can say- you can play word games and say it's growing when you're still 25% less than you were a year before.
tim pool
No.
In April, year over year- A year and a half before.
If you're 25%- In April, year over year, they will see growth.
That's the point.
seth weathers
You can make the claim of growth, but you're still down 25% from what you've been for decades.
tim pool
But that's not the point.
unidentified
The point is- No, that's a big point to distribute if you're getting claimed.
tim pool
The point is, we want to win a culture war.
seth weathers
I agree.
tim pool
Not a beer war.
seth weathers
I agree.
tim pool
The beer is a component of the war.
It's a single battle.
If they run this narrative, what's the plan?
seth weathers
So you're just saying we have to always be on defense for any lie the mainstream media wants to make up.
tim pool
I'm saying what's your offensive strategy?
seth weathers
Again, the truth.
tim pool
But you're saying words.
What are you going to do?
seth weathers
You're saying all they're going to say is words.
tim pool
The media is going to mass report that beer sales numbers are up.
seth weathers
They're not going to be able to say that beer sales numbers are up.
tim pool
Yes they are.
Fact.
seth weathers
Over a year, over a year.
tim pool
Yes.
unidentified
Fact.
seth weathers
So we got wiped out a year ago and we've come back this much.
tim pool
Which means the boycott's over.
seth weathers
That does not take a lot to argue that.
tim pool
And so you're going to see across the board, conservative boycott fails, Bud Light's in growth, they're going to have their spokesperson come out and they're going to say, we can see after a long time our mission... And just everyone's going to be silent and no one's going to respond to that and say, hey, by the way, they're still down 25%.
Is anyone going to boycott UFC?
Is anyone going to call out Dana White?
seth weathers
Is anyone going to call Kid Rock?
tim pool
No, no, I'm saying who's going to speak up?
seth weathers
Well, I'll speak up on Tim Cass when I can.
tim pool
Right, my point is this.
There has to be a strategy.
And right now the only strategy people has in all of the chat is, I will do nothing.
seth weathers
And that will destroy a brand as it has.
They're already diverting hundreds of millions of dollars of advertising outside of the Bud Light brand and they're giving it to other companies within their organization, obviously.
tim pool
Right, so then we need to declare victory.
seth weathers
I think it's already a victory.
Yeah, I'm not going to doubt that.
tim pool
So the narrative needs to be we won.
Have a nice day.
That's my point.
What's the plan?
The plan is either we say we win or we go on the offensive.
seth weathers
I think we say we won and we continue the boycott.
tim pool
Sure.
And that's the point.
ian crossland
So you just continue marching?
You don't pursue the route?
You just settle the area and then you continue the march?
Which is the boycott?
I mean, I don't know about this analogy, but... The analogy is you win the battle, they flee, you can either chase them down by boycotting all of their brands, or you can hold the line and then continue the march, which is holding the boycott.
Rather than telling people to buy beer, which is a retreat, you just continue the march.
You do not buy Bud Light.
seth weathers
Correct.
ian crossland
That's an option.
Where are you marching to?
Now we're just getting weird.
tim pool
I feel like the end result of this is that the impact of the Bud Light thing, it was over as of, like, June.
The sales that were gone were gone.
Nothing else happened after that.
Just narrative stuff.
Just periodically being like, oh wow, some guy got fired, someone resigned.
Since then, nothing has really happened.
And so we can be like, we did it, but there needs to be a, like, this is why I was agreeing with Kid Rock.
seth weathers
I think we were talking over each other a little bit.
I absolutely believe we claim victory.
tim pool
And this is why Kid Rock said, we did it, guys.
We gave them the black eye.
seth weathers
But the difference is they're going out and saying, go buy it again.
tim pool
Dana White is.
seth weathers
I'm sorry.
tim pool
Kid Rock was a bit more flaccid and just like, look, we gave them the black eye.
They deserved it.
We got what we wanted out of it.
And so with Kid Rock saying that as the guy who opened fire on the Bud Light, which really created the viral moment, which led to a widespread boycott, you can now say, ha, ha, ha, we win.
When we boycott, we get what we want.
seth weathers
Right.
tim pool
Terrify all the other companies and say, we'll get exactly what we want if you cross us.
seth weathers
But I think if you let $105 million say, hey, we're going to start buying it all again, I think you lose it real quick.
Oh, and just pay them off.
tim pool
Then Dana White needs to be publicly called out by everyone at every point.
seth weathers
Agreed.
tim pool
All right, we gotta go to the members-only show.
ian crossland
Let me say this about my mom because we used her as an excuse.
seth weathers
I'm sorry about all this.
I love you, Bob.
ian crossland
It's very clear.
As the normie perspective, they see the news, they believe what they see, but she's also intelligent enough that if you explain they're down 25% from 10 years and they're gonna say 2% to make it look like they're growing, she'll understand immediately that that's bullcrap.
tim pool
And my point is, I want the guy who works at, you know, Wonder Bread to be like, oh man, if we do these campaigns we're going to lose a lot of money.
If the narrative inverts because everyone just stops and does nothing and says nothing, they're going to say, oh but didn't that thing fizzle out?
I just saw on CNN they said that their sales are up and their stock is at an all-time high.
ian crossland
We'll have to look for articles when they claim revenue increase and call it out.
tim pool
And already their stock has completely recovered.
ian crossland
And then we can do the numbers on top of what they were two years ago.
tim pool
I gotta be honest.
ian crossland
Up 2%, down 27%, so you're down.
tim pool
It is wild that their stock has completely recovered despite being down in sales.
ian crossland
Yeah, in early November it jumped from 55 to 65 in like half a month, I guess.
luke rudkowski
Well, Bill Gates bought a lot of stock.
tim pool
But that wasn't in November.
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ian crossland
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tim pool
Yeah, you looked at me when you said musician with a grainy voice.
My voice is kind of grainy right now too, so I was like, oh, okay, cool.
luke rudkowski
But yeah, cheers, mate.
tim pool
Let's get to the after show, Tim.
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