Dec. 12, 2023 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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| Alex Jones is back on X, formerly known as Twitter. | ||
| Elon Musk ran a poll. | ||
| The people spoke. | ||
| They said, we want Alex Jones back. | ||
| And so Elon Musk has restored him. | ||
| Following this, Elon Musk, Alex Jones, the Tate brothers, Vivek Ramaswamy, many others joined an X space, we call them X spaces, | ||
| and it was particularly interesting, talking about free speech and where we're currently at. | ||
| Alex Jones went on Steven Crowder's show talking about the PR firms that were going after him, | ||
| and interestingly, all day, Rumble has been under a sustained distributed denial of service attack, | ||
| which I can only assume is political, based on what's going on in the media, of course, | ||
| is losing their collective minds. | ||
| And another component of the story is that apparently, during the space on X, The Vape Krama Swami left his mic on and relieved himself in the bathroom while everyone listened. | ||
| And I don't believe that's true. | ||
| That's what they're claiming. | ||
| It actually kind of sounds like, I don't know, he was washing his hands or making an espresso or something. | ||
| It certainly does not sound like he's using the bathroom, but his mic was left on. | ||
| So we'll talk about that. | ||
| We got a bunch of other stories. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, it is a victory, victory, victory kind of day starting off, especially with the return of not just Alex Jones, but also Owen Schroyer, who's out of jail. | ||
| And we're also hearing that not just the president of UPenn, but also one of their board members, I believe the chair, have resigned over this major scandal. | ||
| And Saturday Night Live is getting slammed because guess what? | ||
| Guess who they sided with? | ||
| They made Elise Stefanik, the Republican rep, look stupid, they mocked her, and tried to make the presidents of these universities look good. | ||
| The interesting thing is, the president of Harvard apparently is now embroiled in a plagiarism scandal. | ||
| So we'll get into all that, but before we get started, my friends, head over to TheBestSongEver.com and click pre-order on Amazon, which you can see right there. | ||
| And, uh, buy the song for 69 cents. | ||
| Together Again is the best song ever written. | ||
| And I can say it because I didn't write it. | ||
| It was written by, uh, I don't know who the writing credits go to, but it is written and performed by Smokey Mike and the God King, who you probably know as Jeremy Boring and Michael Knowles of The Daily Wire. | ||
| And let me just give you the simple version. | ||
| They wrote this song essentially as a big F you to the music industry that says no outsiders and is captured by the woke and we wrote our cover of their song mocking modern music for much the same reason and the whole point of the song is basically just a mockery of the music industry being captured by woke institutions. | ||
| The music video and song drops December 15th so this Friday but you can pre-order right now And if we sell enough of these through iTunes or Amazon, we will hit the billboard charts and then that middle finger will be in their own industry. | ||
| And wouldn't that be something? | ||
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| Joining us to talk about this and everything else is Anna Perez. | ||
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Yeah, thank you for having me, Tim, and everyone else. | |
| I'm really excited to be here, and I host a show called WrongThink on Conservative Daily. | ||
| I host a show called WrongThink Primetime on the Stu Peters Network. | ||
| So yeah, I'm really excited to jump in. | ||
| Obviously, we have a lot of news as it pertains to Rumble, so that affected me today, so I'm excited to talk about that. | ||
| A bunch of people's streams were shut down. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And interestingly, right around the time Steven Crowder was talking to Alex Jones, I couldn't get the site to load. | ||
| So yeah, we'll talk about it. | ||
| Thanks for hanging out. | ||
| And guess who's back? | ||
| Welcome back! | ||
| Beautiful and amazing human beings. | ||
| My name is Zorkadowski here of WeAreChange.org and it's an incredible time to be alive. | ||
| It almost feels like it's a renaissance. | ||
| We have an anarchistic president of Argentina that is firing bureaucrats about to shut down their central bank. | ||
| Owen Schroer was just released from jail Alex Jones was ... just reinstated and did a space with Elon Musk Andrew ... Tate Patrick bad David congressman Matt Gates holy ... freaking cow it definitely seems like the tide is turning ... I host of course the best political show.com and if ... you want to support me you can buy getting one of these ... wonderful shirts that I have right now perfect for family ... gatherings that to talk about how Christmas likes are like ... | ||
| According to blank, blank, blank, which you could find out what it says by going to, of course, thebestpoliticalshirts.com. | ||
| Guys, thank you so much for having me. | ||
| It's good to be back. | ||
| It is good to have you back, Luke. | ||
| I love you, man. | ||
| It's a pleasure. | ||
| Uh, yo, it does feel like something's changing. | ||
| Big time. | ||
| Like there's something's coming to a head that, like, people are separating the ones that are willing to risk and sacrifice their lives for what they believe in are standing out. | ||
| Like, it's really, really hit me hard the other night. | ||
| So let's just get to this, Serge. | ||
| What's happening, brother? | ||
| Good to have you back, Luke. | ||
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Sir? | |
| Yeah, I'm Serge.com. | ||
| I'm ready when you are, too. | ||
| All right, ladies and gentlemen, the big news over the weekend, and we're using Snopes for our story here because, believe it or not, the least biased story about the return of Alex Jones, sort of, is Snopes! | ||
| Fact check, yes. | ||
| Alex Jones's ex-account was reinstated by Elon Musk, the founder of conspiracy theory website Infowars, was banned from Twitter, currently known as X, in 2018 and reinstated in 2023. | ||
| Now, I do want to just point out, If you're gonna call InfoWars a conspiracy theory website, I can call Snopes, CNN, The Washington Post, The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, the list goes on. | ||
| We can call them all conspiracy theory websites. | ||
| Because they all run stories and have historically done so. | ||
| Like, the idea that the government was spying on us. | ||
| Conspiracy theory. | ||
| Oh, was that true? | ||
| How about Russiagate? | ||
| That was one that wasn't true. | ||
| They all run lies and conspiracies. | ||
| But they do use this photo of a very angry-looking Alex Jones. | ||
| Claim! | ||
| In December 2023, conspiracy theorist Alex Jones' Twitter account, RealAlexJones, was reinstated by Elon Musk after having been banned for abusive behavior since 2018. | ||
| True! | ||
| I love this one. | ||
| And then on, uh, they show a Reddit post. | ||
| Alex Jones and his conspiracy theories are allowed back on X. Here's the actual poll in question with 1,966,125 votes. | ||
| 1,966,125 votes, reinstate Alex Jones on the platform Vox Populi, Vox Dei, and 70.1% said | ||
| yes. | ||
| Well, there you have it. | ||
| Of course, the media is absolutely losing their mind over the return of Alex Jones. | ||
| They're saying a whole bunch of really dumb things, and they're insulting Elon Musk over the whole thing, but let's just call this a major victory. | ||
| Well, conspiracy theories are really just spoiler alerts. | ||
| They're just news headlines six months ahead of the time, and I am pissed off at the cultural appropriation of something that I've been labeled for over 20 years. | ||
| Conspiracy theories have, of course, A new day and age on this internet as of course no one ... takes the term seriously anymore as a lot of the ... people who are accused of it have usually been right and it's ... beautiful it's amazing to see this kind of emotional ... hyperbolic freak out from CNN from the Rolling Stones from ... all these other establishment. | ||
| We are winning. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| It's beautiful. | ||
| that are losing their minds at people just being able to speak for themselves and having | ||
| discernment and having conversations that they can't control. | ||
| Al Gore recently came out and said the dangers to democracy are specifically because people | ||
| are able to get news outside of the corporate media control. | ||
| We are winning. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| It's beautiful. | ||
| And them losing their mind is a testament to just how far we have come. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And I think that that's exactly what they sought to do. | ||
| They really thought that they could get rid of Alex Jones. | ||
| And I think that's been really interesting to watch because if there's one thing that I've noticed in the past couple of years, it's that They can cancel you from certain platforms. | ||
| They can cancel you from certain corporate corporations. | ||
| But at the end of the day, if you have a certain following and you've been proven right time and time again, and that's certainly the case with Alex Jones, there's still going to be a population of people that want to hear from you. | ||
| They're going to seek you out. | ||
| And as far as a business owner, somebody like Elon Musk, if he owns X, then it's going to be the smart thing to do to allow him to be sought out on his platform. | ||
| So, I think what you see a lot with figures like Alex is they just, they try to, they think that if they remove the platform that they can remove him. | ||
| But he already has his following, and that wasn't going anywhere. | ||
| People were going to seek him out regardless. | ||
| Andrew Tate, on the show, on the X episode, if you haven't watched it after the show, you gotta watch the X show with all these guys on it. | ||
| Andrew Tate came in and he said, everything, people think they own things. | ||
| You think you own your house. | ||
| You have paperwork that says that if a government comes in and says now they sign some new paperwork, you don't have anything. | ||
| All you have is your integrity. | ||
| And that's something that Alex has stuck with for his entire career, which I appreciate. | ||
| And I think that's why he's still popular. | ||
| I think Elon Musk is doing the obvious thing in terms of free speech. | ||
| I don't believe that Elon Musk ever really bought the reason for Alex Jones's ban. | ||
| So when Elon buys Twitter, he says, well, you know, Alex Jones ragged on, you know, Sandy Hook families and said horrible things about him, so I'm not bringing him back. | ||
| I don't think Elon actually believed it. | ||
| I think what Elon was actually saying, and again, my opinion, I could be totally wrong about this because I can't read Elon's mind. | ||
| He was probably saying, guys, there's only so much I can do. | ||
| Like, give me time. | ||
| I think Elon was like, yeah, he didn't break the rules. | ||
| He just says crazy things. | ||
| But Elon's like, yo, we're trying to maintain control here and gradually move the line. | ||
| If we just go nuts and just unleash the damn right now, we can get shut down like they did to Parler. | ||
| But I think there's actually something really simple in all this too. | ||
| We can sit here and say Elon Musk is ideologically motivated and fighting the good fight, sure. | ||
| But let's be realistic about the business prospects of what he did on X. Like you mentioned, Alex Jones' audience still exists. | ||
| So the analogy I gave earlier on my channel was like, the poll Elon Musk did was like, imagine you owned a cupcake shop, and all your customers are in the lobby, and you just yell, how many of you would buy a pumpkin cupcake and they all raise their hand? | ||
| Well then you go and make it. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Elon Musk is asking his customers what kind of product they want. | ||
| But here's the funny thing. | ||
| Just like with The Daily Wire, making all these movies, Elon Musk is looking at Alex Jones getting millions of views while being banned from everywhere and he's thinking, if I let Alex Jones on Twitter, I have a monopoly on Alex Jones. | ||
| All his content is going to be here. | ||
| It's going to bring all of his fans back. | ||
| It's going to bring engagement to the platform. | ||
| We're going to make money. | ||
| Let's roll. | ||
| And it pushes the Overton window. | ||
| And I think it's not an accident that a lot of this is happening on the heels of Apple, Disney, Comcast and other major corporations saying, hey, we're no longer going to advertise on, of course, Twitter and X. Elon Musk responded saying in a very French way, screw off. | ||
| And by doing so, this is he could say it. | ||
| But when his actions are met by bringing back Alex Jones, that's the biggest F off kind of moment that you could have that are far more powerful than just the words that he used. | ||
| But imagine, because it's not just these corporations, it's not just Facebook, it's not just YouTube, it's not individuals. | ||
| Banning Alex Jones from all these social media platforms. | ||
| There are federal agents that orchestrated all of this. | ||
| There are federal agencies that literally worked on silencing and making sure that no one could hear Alex Jones, his opinions, or his perspectives at all. | ||
| Imagine being that federal agent right now. | ||
| A couple of years ago, I'd be like, yes, we banned him on Spotify. | ||
| We banned him on all these other... LinkedIn. | ||
| He's not even on LinkedIn. | ||
| Doesn't matter. | ||
| We banned him here. | ||
| And now he's on One of the biggest shows with Elon Musk speaking to the world with millions of people listening to him. | ||
| And more and more people are going to go to that platform. | ||
| I know I am. | ||
| One of our Super Chats, Greg Duvier, says that he's asking the elites would still have control of Twitter if they didn't ban the Babylon Bee. | ||
| And I said, I bet they regret that every day. | ||
| I don't think that's the real reason Elon Musk bought Twitter. | ||
| And I say this because I was at a party in Austin with a bunch of big tech bros and people who are friends with with Elon and a bunch of other conservative commentators and libertarians, and the whole conversation was around how they use big tech to censor and control culture. | ||
| And I was arguing with them like, guys, culture is more important than technology. | ||
| Technology is important, but like winning the culture matters. | ||
| And their argument, Elon wasn't there or anything, but their argument was basically If they ban you, you can't make culture at all. | ||
| If on Twitter they have banned all instances of a certain word, then they have basically created a path, the only path you can go down. | ||
| And so, unsurprisingly, Elon ends up buying the platform. | ||
| It may be that the final straw was the Babylon Bee got banned. | ||
| I think that's a good narrative, especially for someone like Elon. | ||
| But I kind of feel like this is a long time coming. | ||
| I think Elon's paying attention to all this stuff. | ||
| He didn't adopt these views one day. | ||
| You know, it's not like all of a sudden he's like, what, they banned the Babylon Bee? | ||
| All of a sudden I'm for free speech. | ||
| He's probably supported this stuff for a very long time. | ||
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Yeah, I think it's a similar concept to kind of the psyop of every single conservative needs to move out of cities. | |
| Here's the reality. | ||
| Somebody has to make a cultural difference. | ||
| And right now, the only way to really do that is to have some sort of Influence on in cities where the cultural hubs are now is that good culture that we have right now? | ||
| No, but it's the same thing as social media platforms like as much as we don't want to have to participate in you know walking around Walking on eggshells when it comes to these social media platforms like we did for so long with Twitter We have to have a presence on these apps, on these social media platforms in order to make some sort of cultural change as conservatives. | ||
| And so I think you're right. | ||
| Elon did the right thing. | ||
| Elon did something where he saw, OK, well, the only way for this for there to be a fair sort of cultural balance out there would be to give conservatives the opportunity to be on this app. | ||
| I think it wasn't necessarily like a political move per se, although he'll argue he's free speech. | ||
| I don't think the guy is. | ||
| I think that if he were, he would bring back Nick Fuentes, and I think that he wouldn't have created the poll, and maybe we differ on that or we disagree on that, but I think that the poll was all about self-preservation and was more about, and to be fair, feds would have come after him too, so to your point, like, You know there were feds involved in silencing people like Alex Jones and even Nick Fuentes and others like that so I think it's all about well I can point back to this was the people's decision and they might still come after him but at the end of the day like I do think that was partly an opportunity for himself to for him to protect himself but I think ultimately he did it for there to be some sort of balance out there which I think is good but again not necessarily politically motivated. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| Uh, if he was for free speech, he wouldn't need a poll. | ||
| He'd just say, Alex, you're fine. | ||
| Nick, you're fine. | ||
| Milo, you're fine. | ||
| You're back. | ||
| Don't worry about it. | ||
| They wouldn't have banned Kanye West. | ||
| Ye is still banned, right? | ||
| I believe so, and I think so is Milo as well. | ||
| Ye posted the Realism symbol, which looks like a Star of Dave with a swastika in it. | ||
| But Realism, like, what is it? | ||
| Like they believe aliens or something seeded Earth? | ||
| I don't know what they believe. | ||
| But to those who have no idea what it is, it looks like something meant to be offensive. | ||
| He gets banned for this. | ||
| I think if Elon was for free speech, he wouldn't need a poll. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| And I think maybe Elon's motivation is actually simple. | ||
| He wants to colonize Mars. | ||
| He wants a neural link. | ||
| And he's thinking, Look, that meme he posted where it's the left moving further and further left, he's realized what many of us have realized. | ||
| You said as conservatives. | ||
| I don't consider myself conservative and Luke doesn't consider himself conservative. | ||
| This coalition of individuals who believe in free speech is wide. | ||
| Elon probably said, The majority of people think these things. | ||
| I wouldn't be surprised if he had like a marketing consultant and he was like, where is the sentiment? | ||
| Are they really, you know, lefty and woke? | ||
| And they're like, no, it's probably like 12%. | ||
| Elon's like, okay, so our path forward for popular success is going to be embracing these principles that people actually do like. | ||
| He probably sees the wind moving in a particular direction, especially with this election, and he's like, OK, how do we get ahead of it? | ||
| How do we put ourselves in a way where we could still win while the whole system kind of collapses onto itself? | ||
| So I agree with you on that one particular point. | ||
| Yes, he's trying to kind of protect himself with this poll, but I don't think it's even the poll. | ||
| I think it's even bigger than this. | ||
| If you look at his contracts with the defense industry, with the US military, with the Pentagon, when it comes to Starlink, when it comes to providing Ukraine and Israel satellite technology that are used for defensive and offensive capabilities, those capabilities are at his disposal to use and implement as he wants. | ||
| That, to me, in my opinion, is why he's going to be kind of protected here. | ||
| And if it wasn't for those kind of larger government contracts, And the larger kind of game that he plays with a lot of the bigger kind of players here, I think he would have been gone. | ||
| I think he would have been destroyed a long time ago. | ||
| And I think this really does play a central role in a lot of this. | ||
| So I got Alex Jones pulled over right here. | ||
| And one of his tweets from 22 minutes ago, Jack Posobiec issues emergency warning, deep state planning direct war with Russia as October surprise. | ||
| Now, excuse me, this is from Jack Posobiec, Alex Jones putting out this information. | ||
| This is exactly why they don't want Alex Jones having a voice. | ||
| Because y'all remember when Alex Jones went on the show and said that, come February, there's going to be a war, it's going to be big. | ||
| And then when Russia invaded Ukraine, everybody immediately was tweeting Alex Jones was right. | ||
| He predicted this. | ||
| They were all sharing this clip from several months prior. | ||
| My favorite thing about this, Is everyone's like, how did Alex Jones know a war was gonna start? | ||
| How did he know? | ||
| He's just so smart, he can see it! | ||
| And so I talked to him, and he was like, I just read the news, it was in the news! | ||
| Like, this is the funny thing. | ||
| Alex is a guy who reads the news and then says it, he like, looks at all these articles and brings them together. | ||
| Granted, he says a lot of crazy things, he gets crazy things wrong, like he was talking about cell phones and animal hybrids, whatever that's about. | ||
| But he gets a lot of things right when it comes to this stuff. | ||
| It wasn't shocking to anybody who actually listens to him that he accurately called out a war, because all he was doing was holding up, like, articles from the AP. | ||
| That's what he's doing here, retweeting Jack Posobiec. | ||
| Exactly, that's my point. | ||
| And it's not just him, it's members of the Polish government, members of the German government coming out. | ||
| One of Germany's top soldiers just came out and said that they are, of course, Planning on potentially even having a defensive war against Russia. | ||
| Of course, there's there's no such thing. | ||
| It's an offensive war. | ||
| But this is something that it's not just Alex Jones talking about. | ||
| Government officials are actually talking about this and setting down essentially the groundwork for what could be a big potential conflict that could potentially unfold, especially right before this election. | ||
| I want to pull up this tweet from Steven Crowder. | ||
| It is from his discussion with Alex Jones this morning. | ||
| He says, quote, This was a strategic Democratic party and PR operation. | ||
| Alex Jones clears the air on why his Twitter account was banned, how it feels to be reinstated on X by Elon, as well as what his future plans are. | ||
| So let's play this clip so we can hear it straight from Crowder's show. | ||
| Because of something to do with Sandy Hook. | ||
| A lot of people think that you were banned from Twitter because of something to do with Sandy Hook. | ||
| Elon clarified that the reason you were banned from Twitter had to do with that sniveling worm Oliver Darcy. | ||
| Nothing to do with Sandy Hook. | ||
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But the actual reason for suspending him was he basically insulted a journalist. | |
| They de-platform us for a bunch of made-up crazy stuff. | ||
| The last thing was Oliver Darcy. | ||
| Later, before they ever sued me, They were saying I'm the Sandy Hook guy and I'm attacking the families and sending people to their houses and none of it was true and no one was even going to their houses and people were peeing on graves and none of it was true. | ||
| None of that was even shown in court. | ||
| They were like, I'll just get up and say it with no evidence because I was already found guilty. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so I started saying, hey, I think it happened. | ||
| I'd already said that, by the way. | ||
| I did an apology tour on Joe Rogan and Patrick McDavid before I even got sued and said, hey, here I am years ago saying I think it happened. | ||
| And they said, oh, now you admit you lied and did it for money. | ||
| This was strategic Democratic Party. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| I think we know for a fact that right now as we're entering 2024, I mean so this is back in 2018, entering 2024 we have, I'm not gonna name the groups, you guys can if you want to, there are these Democrat PR, Democrat, non-profit, 501c4 type organizations, all they do is launch lawsuits in order to win elections. | ||
| If you think the 2024 election is simply how many people can go and cast their ballot, you're wrong. | ||
| A whole lot of it is going to be procedural fights, it's going to be court battles, and I think a big component Of why not just Alex Jones, because it was a coordinated move that got him banned. | ||
| Like, we can see him wiped from every platform instantly. | ||
| But there were many other people. | ||
| Paul Joseph Watson got banned from Instagram. | ||
| And what did he have? | ||
| He had pictures of him, like, smoking a cigarette by the sunset. | ||
| Just, like, ridiculous things. | ||
| Like, what are you banning him for? | ||
| It is political. | ||
| Moving into 2024, I would not be surprised if we see a ton of moves like this. | ||
| That being said, With Elon Musk owning Axe, it's going the other direction. | ||
| We're starting to win this one. | ||
| Especially with other institutions like Rumble out there. | ||
| Now, Rumble also has a very interesting lawsuit against some of these, you call them democratic organizations, I call them more government intel connected organizations that are also financed with billionaires, individuals' names, like George Soros, who of course do play a major role in our political discourse. | ||
| When you see the kind of coordinated attacks that happened a couple years ago, it wasn't social media. | ||
| It was government officials. | ||
| We found that out through the Twitter files. | ||
| We found that out through all the disclosures. | ||
| We found out that U.S. | ||
| government officials, FBI officials, Intel officials were saying, hey, we don't like what these people are saying. | ||
| Shut down these individual voices. | ||
| They're talking about this kind of news reporting that we don't like. | ||
| Shut them down immediately. | ||
| And they did. | ||
| Your tax dollars essentially financed a lot of this and I really hope that these new lawsuits really shed a light and we have a lot of discovery specifically when it comes to the larger involvement of outside forces, not just democratic organizations that are playing a major role here. | ||
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Well you mentioned Soros and I think that's actually a really crucial part to all of this because for so long the way that they got you to not ask questions or file lawsuits was they kind of associated insulting Soros, criticizing Soros with you being anti-semitic or you know calling you names, throwing labels at you and that was actually quite effective for a few years there I would say between Trump running in 2015 to about 2019, that was pretty effective to throw certain labels at you. | |
| Then I think Americans started to wake up, by and large, people who weren't even political by nature, they started to realize, okay, these labels don't actually mean anything because my next-door neighbor is being called a racist for having a Gadsden flag or something like that. | ||
| They started to realize these labels didn't mean anything. | ||
| Then they started actually investigating it, who Soros really is. | ||
| I think more Americans are aware of These strategies that the left has used for so long are just the, you know, the uniparty at large to silence us. | ||
| This idea that you can't question anything. | ||
| Americans are aware more than ever before that we've been lied to about not just the government, but about who these people are that we're surrounded by in our communities. | ||
| And, you know, we look around like, you know, the people who were silenced very early on, and we're like, like Milo Yiannopoulos, for example, or Gavin McInnes, and it's like, these people are not who they told us they were. | ||
| You know, I know the exact moment when the tides turned. | ||
| It was when Taylor Swift called out George Soros several years ago. | ||
| I'm half kidding by the way, but Taylor Swift calls out the Soros family because they undercut her and I do think That does open the door a little bit for people to criticize George Soros. | ||
| A lot of conservatives are attacking Taylor, but I'm like, dude, she put up this big post talking about how her music was stolen from her. | ||
| It's not political at all. | ||
| But now, well now there are going to be a lot of people who are critical of George Soros in a completely apolitical context. | ||
| You can't call them all anti-semitic anymore. | ||
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Right. | |
| And I think that's what it took to bring it into the mainstream, because Taylor Swift is in the mainstream. | ||
| I think that's a really, really good point. | ||
| I actually think it's like, it's true. | ||
| Like, I mean, like, I think that in order to make something to be effective, you need to somehow bring it into the mainstream. | ||
| It can't just be a, like, political junkie talking point. | ||
| This is why I think it's a psy-op, all these conservatives attacking Taylor Swift. | ||
| Because all of a sudden these accounts on Twitter are like, Taylor's working for George Soros, and I was like, well, she doesn't like the guy. | ||
| She's posted against him. | ||
| Take the opportunity, man! | ||
| Take the win! | ||
| You got- I think this would be a really great video for Freedom Tunes, where it's like a bunch of 17-year-old girls screaming, George Soros ripped off Taylor Swift, and the media's calling them all anti-Semites. | ||
| It's a shame that that guy's not here. | ||
| But anyway, I wanted to bring up another point here, what we were just talking about, because it was Alex. | ||
| It was Milo. | ||
| It was Gavin. | ||
| It was Robinson. | ||
| A lot of big, prominent individuals were censored. | ||
| But more importantly, a lot of kind of smaller, up-and-coming content creators were also censored and then obliterated and had their entire careers destroyed. | ||
| They weren't the big guys. | ||
| They weren't the big players that could sustain these attacks. | ||
| And I think truly the biggest damage that happened was on all the people that are coming up that we're going to have an impact now, that we're going to be prominent, that we're going to be big, but had no chance because the algorithm screwed them over, destroyed them, demonetized them, and hurt our kind of discourse more than we could even imagine. | ||
| Parlor would be Twitter right now. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Wargaming, I mean, if we're really concerned with a war with Russia, we have to look at this as common sense, realistic as possible, that these centralized services are vulnerabilities. | ||
| Like, if Elon holds Twitter on a central service, Verizon can shut him down, the government can go in there and get his whoever, wherever they're hosted can shut him down. | ||
| They need to decentralize this service as quick as possible. | ||
| They need something like Briar or Noster or something where we can run it on our phones decentralized. | ||
| Because it's just inevitable, man. | ||
| Because especially with these infrastructure attacks, especially what happened to Rumble. | ||
| Rumble today. | ||
| And what will be happening probably to Twitter, as of course Twitter also had a lot of very important infrastructure problems. | ||
| And I think the next step, if they can't silence the person, if they can't silence the voice, they're going to silence the megaphone that people speak through. | ||
| And these are the attacks that we should be keeping an eye out right now. | ||
| So I wonder. | ||
| Elon Musk gives the big FU at that New York Times event. | ||
| These advertisers are cancelling and he says they're going to be the ones that destroyed this company. | ||
| I think we did briefly mention this a couple weeks ago. | ||
| Elon Musk could theoretically just say, I am federating X. Meaning, it will be a decentralized open source infrastructure that connects to all the other infrastructure. | ||
| And it will, X will never go anywhere then. | ||
| Because now you're integrated in this decentralized open source network. | ||
| He can easily offset tons of the cost through open sourcing and distributed, decentralizing servers and services through the, what's called the Fediverse. | ||
| And then there would be a major business loss. | ||
| The big challenge with this is that he took out loans to buy X. But if X is on the verge of collapse, this may play out poorly for him. | ||
| But I do think The richest man whose net worth is currently, as of today, estimated $244 billion. | ||
| I kind of think he can stand to lose $44 billion. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| And it's not just that. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| There's investors involved. | ||
| They would lose a lot of money. | ||
| But what's the worst case scenario? | ||
| Elon says, all the advertisers pulled off in a coordinated fashion for seemingly political reasons. | ||
| You can't hold me responsible for that. | ||
| X is now done. | ||
| What do we do? | ||
| Open source decentralizes our best path to maintain the platform and retain memberships and advertising. | ||
| The Fediverse is great, although if they stay centralized on like big data centers or in AWS or cloud, wherever they're hosting, that can still get shut out of the Fediverse. | ||
| So you're looking at... Versus a mesh network? | ||
| Yeah, mesh networks, which are like really up and coming and they're challenging still to transmit video because they're, you know, cell phone to cell phone. | ||
| But yeah, 50 cell phones, 48 of them go down. | ||
| The other two are still connected with Twitter. | ||
| And then that's how it'll work. | ||
| But if the establishment is really desperate, right, and they're about to lose a lot of power, and they're about to be held accountable for all the horrible things they did to us, how far do you think they're going to go to stop that from happening? | ||
| I think we have to examine that in a very critical way, because I think they're willing to go very far. | ||
| I think they're willing to do a lot of crazy things that we can't even imagine right now, to just how far they will go to say, hey, There's going to be no accountability here. | ||
| There's going to be no truth here because as soon as the people find out the truth, it's game over for them. | ||
| They're so cornered. | ||
| They're so in a fragile situation that truly this is a very dangerous time for all of us. | ||
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Yeah, I think wherever we're thinking, they're thinking a step ahead. | |
| Like, I think that they're aware that that would be our plan B or plan C. Like, I think they're fully aware of the direction this is headed in. | ||
| They wouldn't do the things that they're doing, or they wouldn't have done the things that they have done to us for years if they didn't, if they weren't able to think one step ahead. | ||
| I mean, it's the same argument you can make for Donald Trump. | ||
| Everybody's like, well, you know, we're so back, he's gonna win, whatever. | ||
| But, I mean, We're talking about the deep state here. | ||
| There's nothing that's too far for them. | ||
| I disagree completely. | ||
| The Titanic can crash into an iceberg. | ||
| There's a lot of conspiracies about that too. | ||
| If I'm using it as an analogy, I'm not making it literal. | ||
| You can build the biggest ship, you can design it to rip through ice, and then you come across bedrock and be like, we did not expect that to happen. | ||
| We calculated. | ||
| And then boom, we tore the hole and now we're sinking. | ||
| It's possible, sure, they can see far ahead and they may be thinking abandon ship. | ||
| Yeah, there's a lot of bankers there against the US Federal Reserve, but that's a different story. | ||
| But I do believe that you could be correct in your sentiments, but just understanding how they work and what they did to the people, especially within the last three years. | ||
| Especially within the last 22 years, especially what happened in New York City. | ||
| When you calculate all of their moves and decisions, nothing is out of the realm of possibility here to how far they will go to stop people from finding out what they're really up to. | ||
| Well let me pull up this tweet here from Chris Pavlovsky, the CEO of Rumble. | ||
| He tweets, I can confirm this attack has been unprecedented and has been happening since this weekend. | ||
| Rumble, for those that are just tuning in, has been under a cyber attack and this may be related to Alex Jones. | ||
| But look, let's be real, Rumble is really challenging the machine. | ||
| Alex Jones was restored on X and it was announced that he would be appearing on Steven Crowder's show. | ||
| This morning, all of a sudden, Rumble is slammed. | ||
| Viva Fry tweeted, I was planning to go live, but Rumble and Locals are down. | ||
| Apparently it is a massive, unprecedented attack, one that is likely politically motivated. | ||
| If I have any updates, I'll let everyone know. | ||
| Godspeed, Rumble. | ||
| Chris Pavlovsky followed up by saying, I also suspect it is political, coming from activists and or organizations who want to censor our creators and related to J6 videos being posted on Rumble. | ||
| 2024 is two weeks away. | ||
| It is gonna be wild. | ||
| When he was in, I was like, you gotta decentralize this service. | ||
| And I know he knew I was right, and we also both know the momentous amount of effort that would require, and especially the challenge to stream video from, like, a mesh. | ||
| But I know Chris is thinking about it. | ||
| He's a server master. | ||
| But as long as that rumble thing is on local servers or centralized on big data, man, you are, it is target, target, target. | ||
| And it's like when you're a sitting duck, man, you're in a rough position as a tech company. | ||
| Now, who's really behind these attacks? | ||
| That's a question that I'm kind of asking myself. | ||
| I have my clear speculations. | ||
| I have a clear answer to who would be invested in stopping these conversations from happening. | ||
| But Rumble is on the up and up. | ||
| It's becoming a very serious contender to one of the biggest online media companies in the world, a monopoly on the industry that, of course, abuses their power routinely and hosts particular shows and platforms that are major. | ||
| And when they see a competitor coming out and doing their job better and allowing the free market to actually speak and represent itself, Holy cow, that is a danger to their business. | ||
| That is a danger to their industry. | ||
| And I wouldn't be surprised if it's the competition saying, we got to shut it down before they take our cake. | ||
| It could be the Russians wanting you to think that by making you think that the enemy of your enemy is doing something to your enemy. | ||
| It could be three deep. | ||
| It could be someone trying to get you to think that it's Google doing it to rumble or getting you to think that it's the American government doing it to rumble to sow dissent. | ||
| But I think the most obvious answer is it's someone that didn't like the politics. | ||
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| Whoever it is. | ||
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Well, I think I think you bring up a good point. | |
| I think oftentimes we have an enemy like the CCP, for example, and a lot of times we see these cyber attacks and it gets blamed on the CCP. | ||
| And it's peculiar because even the people that do business with the CCP will say that, you know, people like Joe Biden and the administration and say, oh, it's the CCP. | ||
| It's the CCP. | ||
| Well, I wonder how many times they blame it on these other on our enemies when really it's them. | ||
| Like you saw with the whole balloon situation. | ||
| Oh, well, it's the CCP, but for some reason we can't shoot it down. | ||
| Well, we had our reservations about that. | ||
| We weren't exactly certain that that was the case, given what the government has done in the past, but I think that they do take advantage of our enemies and they blame it on that. | ||
| I think in the case of Rumble, obviously Rumble wouldn't be the ones to blame it on a fake enemy, but I can see like some sort of Story coming out blaming it on the CCP or something like that or maybe even Russia but I mean I just I think as people who are in tune with politics we have to be careful that we don't allow them to use our enemies as a way to as a way to get away from their own responsibility of the fact that they did it because the government's obviously never gonna tell us oh we did it or or YouTube's never gonna be like we did it you know. | ||
| I don't think we're ever going to find out who's really responsible here and who actually did do it. | ||
| It could be a lot of different people, too, working in conjunction. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I think a lot about the CCP like that, because I, although I am concerned with that authoritarian economic, you know, autocracy, whatever, oligarchy, I guess, communist oligarchy, I don't want to, like, say that's just the purest evil on earth and every, because then it's just going to send the U.S. | ||
| to war with them. | ||
| And I don't want to do that. | ||
| I want to avoid that. | ||
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Well, it's the same thing they did with Russia. | |
| I mean, they make Putin out to look a certain way, and it's like, they make him look like he's some evil dictator, but it's like, no one actually breaks down his reasoning for what he's doing, nobody actually- and it's a disservice to ourselves, because then we don't actually understand who we're dealing with. | ||
| Whoever side you're on, it's a disservice to not understand who your supposed enemy is. | ||
| But they don't want you to think about that, because if you did think about it, and you did start researching it, you might actually realize that they've lied to you about who he is, and who our enemies are in general. | ||
| So it's, they make it out to be like, oh don't question it, they're just your enemy. | ||
| It's just your enemy, don't question it. | ||
| But there are so many people who just don't want to be involved in politics and want to plug their ears and say la la la la la, they want to live in denial. | ||
| And you know man, I think they're the last ones off the Titanic if they even make it off. | ||
| The people who are, imagine this, you're on the Titanic and hit an iceberg and you were standing near the front of the ship and saw it happen. | ||
| Well, you knew what to do. | ||
| You knew, okay, bad thing just happened. | ||
| For all the people who are like down in the ballroom just having a good old time saying, we don't care, we're not paying attention. | ||
| Those people didn't make it. | ||
| There's going to be a lot of people who don't make it. | ||
| But at the same time, I, you know, I say that, but I think more than ever, people are getting the opportunity to finally speak to each other and find out what's really going on. | ||
| I think there is an opportunity to awaken a lot of people. | ||
| There are some people that still love to have their heads in the sand and their tickets up there laid for whoever wants to go out there and take it. | ||
| And those individuals, I think, more and more now, especially with Bidenomics, especially with the Build Back Better policies, are seeing the real cost of being ignorant to politics. | ||
| Of course, if you ignore politics, politics is not going to ignore you. | ||
| And a lot of people have been bamboozled, have been screwed over. | ||
| And now they're saying, hey, hold on, maybe I should be paying attention to what's going on here because this actually does have a real effect on my life. | ||
| So in one sense, yes, I do see people kind of being blind to certain situations, but I do see those blinds being lifted now more than ever. | ||
| I assume it's people with young children or people that want to have young children. | ||
| They have a reason to think outside the box about the future. | ||
| But like older people that are collecting their social security, they're just like, shut up and I want to just watch TV. | ||
| But there's a new data that was just released by a CNN poll. | ||
| Donald Trump, I think it's in Michigan, has a lead of 40 points among people who did not vote in 2020. | ||
| Trump's biggest gains are among non-voters. | ||
| Like people who didn't vote are waking up and they're deciding I'm voting for Trump and that's what's giving Trump the bump. | ||
| Good news! | ||
| And every time the corporate media attacks him viciously, unfairly, he just becomes more popular. | ||
| Every time the state brings more charges to him, everyone's like, hey, why are you doing this to this man? | ||
| As, of course, he's facing 750 years in jail, which is absolutely crazy. | ||
| The fact that a former president of the United States could be going to jail for multiple life sentences? | ||
| That's just a new level of craziness and, in my opinion, desperation by the establishment that has gone way too far. | ||
| But I've talked to a lot of people, man. | ||
| Trump's gonna be convicted. | ||
| Now, the interesting thing is, I could be totally wrong. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Trump has petitioned the Supreme Court, and I believe the Supreme Court has just said they will take up the case. | ||
| Trump said you cannot criminally charge a person for what they did as president, and I believe he is correct. | ||
| The president must be impeached first. | ||
| Impeached, then criminally charged. | ||
| The reason for this is war, conflict, crisis. | ||
| The people need to say that this duly elected representative is not fit because of high crimes and misdemeanors. | ||
| Afterwards, we can say what they do is criminal. | ||
| The reason being, if you could just criminally charge a president whenever you wanted, then every state would file criminal charges immediately against the president because they didn't want him to be president. | ||
| It would be like, imagine the Civil War. | ||
| After the Civil War, they're having elections. | ||
| Yeah, a former confederate state would just be like, we're criminally charging the president with these things. | ||
| The country would never move forward. | ||
| What's going to be the reaction of the people when he does get indicted, when he does get arrested? | ||
| He was indicted, he was arrested! | ||
| When he does get convicted and put in jail? | ||
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| But there's probably going to be even more indictments. | ||
| There's probably going to be even more charges with the way that things are going. | ||
| But when he's in jail, how will the American people respond? | ||
| That's the question. | ||
| I think they're listening to people like us, and they're wondering, waiting for us to tell them what to do. | ||
| That's like the scary part, kind of, in a way, is like, not the responsibility, but also like how things are hanging by a thread right now. | ||
| People need guidance. | ||
| I know what they need to do. | ||
| They need to buy Casper brew coffee! | ||
| The greatest cup of coffee! | ||
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I'm kidding. | |
| Also work out. | ||
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Because Tucker was talking about that the other day sort of he was saying like you know I've because of all of these indictments and everything like I've become a bigger Trump supporters what he's saying I think a lot of Americans feel that way and I think that would be a breaking point for a lot of people and I don't you know it's hard to say what they would do per se but I think that that would certainly be crossing the line for a lot of people who In the past, either voted for him because they liked his economic policies or thought he was a better option, but I think that as he gets indicted more and more, and that's not even my opinion, these are just statistics too, more people are supporting him openly and more fervently than ever before, and I think that means something for if that does happen. | |
| What if they do throw him in jail? | ||
| I mean, that'll ultimately probably will mean he would die. | ||
| The guy's really old, and we all know that they would Possibly do something to him in prison, right? | ||
| How old is he? | ||
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| Yeah, in his late 70s. | ||
| But it doesn't even matter, like they would, you know, they'd probably kill him. | ||
| Like they would find some way to kill him. | ||
| And that's ultimately, like, I think they'd probably blame it on age. | ||
| But, you know, I mean, who really knows? | ||
| It could be that or... Well, Alex Jones warned about this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The risk to Trump's life because of what's happening. | ||
| However, I do think it's also important to consider If we win enough culturally and shift the narrative enough in this country, it would make the option of going after Trump inviolable, right? | ||
| Going after Trump with violence only matters if they have the power to maintain control of a system. | ||
| If it becomes apparent that Bud Light's failure, Disney's failure, the expansion of X, If this becomes so apparent that we are going to win, what happens is the powers that be just say, oh, I was always for free speech, and they'll jump ship and quickly rush over because they want to preserve their own lives. | ||
| So I think all we have to do, stay the course, build culture, support Daily Wire and their movie efforts, Uh, support shows like Tim Cass, Steven Crowder, support Jimmy Dore, just anti-establishment individuals. | ||
| Buy The Best Song Ever, go to thebestsongever.com, buy our song, pre-order it, it'll be out Friday. | ||
| The reason is, we want to win the culture war. | ||
| Support a mug club. | ||
| Buy coffee brand coffee from Jeremy at the Quartering. | ||
| Just support all of the parallel economy. | ||
| Go to Public Square. | ||
| Buy all your products from Public Square. | ||
| Just hammer down all these cultural victories and make sure they know the money's not there, the confidence is not there, and if you take extreme action, you will lose. | ||
| There's also WeAreChange.chop that's also pretty good, but... And t-shirts! | ||
| The best political shirts. | ||
| What I wanted to say, to kind of add to your point, they are playing a very dangerous game. | ||
| It is extremely risky. | ||
| And some people have even theorized that they're trying to push the American people over the edge. | ||
| That they're trying to kind of spur a reaction to them that will create a problem that they're going to have a solution for. | ||
| So that's also something to kind of think about here, looking at everything else. | ||
| But as you mentioned, Tim, A lot of people are really banking and hoping that the election is going to solve a lot of problems for the individual. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| What will solve the problems are people taking personal responsibility for themselves. | ||
| Are people who are going to decide to vote with their clicks, their likes, their views, their dollars, saying, hey, I'm going to support the local farm over there. | ||
| I'm not going to support Walmart. | ||
| I'm not going to support big factory farming. | ||
| I'm going to go get some, you know, things like raw milk, if they're good for you. | ||
| I'm going to actually do some homework and research into the ways that we are being poisoned into the larger biological war that is being waged on men and women in this country. | ||
| I'm going to make sure I am the strongest, best version of myself, and I don't need the system. | ||
| I'm not going to feed the system. | ||
| I'm going to live outside of it in my own free, honest, real way. | ||
| That right there is a beautiful act of resistance. | ||
| I got a fact check, Patriot, with a good fact check saying, after being convicted on impeachment charges, Tim, President Trump was impeached. | ||
| He was not convicted. | ||
| So I'll clarify what I'm saying. | ||
| The argument from Trump is that you must be impeached and convicted, then you can be criminally indicted and criminally convicted. | ||
| Trump was impeached, which is effectively an indictment. | ||
| The Senate voted no, and then he was not convicted. | ||
| So until that happens and he is successfully convicted following impeachment, None of this matters. | ||
| But let's jump to this story from scnr.com. | ||
| Scanner. | ||
| Missouri AG launches investigation into media matters. | ||
| AG Andrew Bailey, quote, I'm fighting to ensure progressive tyrants masquerading as news outlets cannot manipulate the marketplace in order to wipe out free speech. | ||
| This is huge. | ||
| Attorney General Andrew Bailey says we have reason to believe Media Matters used fraud to solicit donations from Missourians in order to bully advertisers into pulling out of X, the last platform dedicated to free speech in America we have launched an investigation. | ||
| And it is quite simple. | ||
| According to data from Axe, as well as numerous reports, Media Matters appeared to have created fake accounts, or created dummy accounts using new accounts, following specifically advertisers and extremists. | ||
| That way, the content would appear next to each other, and they could then go to the advertiser and say, see, look, your content appears next to extremists, which is a disingenuous version of events. | ||
| That being the case, for Media Matters to claim this thing happened when according to X, their staff, Enyon Musk, it happened like two times, the argument is Media Matters is defrauding donors by tricking them into thinking they're actually solving a problem when in fact that problem doesn't even exist. | ||
| Therefore, the argument now is fraud. | ||
| This is huge. | ||
| But this is the law fair. | ||
| And it's not just Missouri. | ||
| I know that, I believe, Texas is filing several suits too, right? | ||
| The Attorney General there is doing that, yes. | ||
| Let me read the letter here so we can get the specifics here. | ||
| Andrew Bailey of Missouri says, this letter serves as a formal document, hold notice under federal and Missouri law. | ||
| The Missouri Attorney General's Office has opened an investigation into Media Matters for America regarding your firm's potentially unlawful business practices. | ||
| Full stop. | ||
| Media Matters is a, I believe they're a 501c4 non-profit, I could be wrong. | ||
| But they, all they do all day is watch what they view as conservative media and then post things. | ||
| Often times, they're out of context or manipulative. | ||
| But here's more, he says, as you are no doubt aware, a federal lawsuit has been filed against Media Matters, raising serious allegations that your firm falsely and deceptively manipulated the algorithm on Axe, formerly known as Twitter, through coordinated inauthentic behavior, and that you did so in an attempt to defame the organization and cause advertisers to pull their support from the platform, thus harming free speech. | ||
| The lawsuit alleges that you lied to the public, falsely suggesting that fringe extremist content regularly appears next to content from corporate advertisers, when in fact the opposite is true. | ||
| At the same time, you appear to have used this coordinated inauthentic activity to solicit charitable donations from consumers across the country. | ||
| I have reason to believe that your firm's alleged actions may have violated Missouri consumer protection laws, including laws that prohibit non-profit entities from soliciting funds under false pretenses. | ||
| I am especially concerned that Media Matters' actions, if proven true, have hampered free speech by targeting an expressly pro-free speech social media platform in an attempt To cause it financial harm while defrauding Missourians in the process. | ||
| You are thus hereby instructed to preserve all records that may relate to your alleged effort to engage in coordinated inauthentic behavior on social media platforms in order to generate false statements that were used to solicit charitable contributions under false pretenses. | ||
| You are instructed in particular to preserve all records that may relate to your webpage which expressly solicit funds at the following URL. | ||
| He then goes on to list several other documentation that must be preserved. | ||
| So this is a notice to preserve documents, which means the investigation is about to begin. | ||
| Missouri expects to get into the discovery phase, and it very well may be that as we enter 2024, the lawfare ramps up substantially more than just private actors filing lawsuits. | ||
| And on top of Missouri, we may see I gotta be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if every single state AG has some kind of lawsuit fired away in an attempt to advantage themselves in this election. | ||
| It's not just about votes, it's not just about vote policy, it's about speech capabilities. | ||
| It's about Media Matters trying to take down Axe, and now Missouri fighting to defend Axe because Axe is in favor of free speech. | ||
| 2024 is going to be absolutely wild. | ||
| It already is wild. | ||
| I know! | ||
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I'm just saying it's going to get crazier! | |
| It's going to get way crazier. | ||
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It's not just Media Matters. | |
| It's so many other organizations like that that exist. | ||
| You could make an argument that they're doing the exact same thing. | ||
| I think this is huge. | ||
| This is really big to set this sort of precedent for, you know, we will come after you if you try to influence, you know, defraud people essentially. I mean, | ||
| that's the argument they're making here. | ||
| And, you know, you look at these other outlets like, you know, Right Wing Watch, | ||
| what's the other one, the big one, Patriot Takes and other ones like that, where they take | ||
| things out of context and they could be doing the same thing. I don't know. I mean, it's worth... | ||
| If they solicit donations. | ||
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| So Rumble is suing CheckMyAds, I believe, the two founders. | ||
| And what this group does is they contact advertisers for various conservative outlets and then try to get the advertisers to pull out. | ||
| I can say they have made numerous deceptive statements about us and used that to solicit donations. | ||
| Notably, they claimed that I pushed the quote-unquote big lie, which the big lie refers to Donald Trump saying he won in 2020. | ||
| Anybody who's ever watched this show knows that I have never claimed Trump won 2020, and I actually argued with Bannon twice that Trump lost because people did not like him, and they didn't vote for Biden, they voted against Trump. | ||
| And Steve Bannon actually went, huh, I said Trump got anti-elected. | ||
| There's no enthusiasm for Biden, they were voting against Trump, and he goes, that's pretty good, anti-elected, yeah. | ||
| So I'm like, The fact that they would raise money off of making that claim, it shows these organizations are deceiving people in order to raise money. | ||
| For the record, they're a 501c3, Media Matters is. | ||
| Media Matters is a c3? | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| Yes, I know they're a non-profit. | ||
| According to Wikipedia, they're a 501c3. | ||
| They're exempt from federal income tax. | ||
| So how does that change this at all? | ||
| Does it make it more or less... 501c3s can't engage in partisan political activity. | ||
| Yeah, and it's pretty clear that they are very partisan. | ||
| Super PACs, typically I believe they're 501c4s, that's the tax designation, 501 and then the C's and the parentheses and a 4. | ||
| And this, 501c4s don't have to disclose where their money goes, but it's not tax deductible. | ||
| And 501c3s, completely tax deductible, but you can look up all their information, their salaries, I recommend everybody do this. | ||
| Search for Tax Form 990 and insert non-profit and you can learn a lot about all these organizations. | ||
| So, good sleuthing everyone out there. | ||
| Have fun. | ||
| Uh, am I supposed to say something now? | ||
| I started to look at my 90 media matters, I was like, I'm one of those guys, I want to know. | ||
| I want to know who owns it, who runs it, who makes the money, how much do they make. | ||
| You can see the salaries. | ||
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That's good. | |
| And there's a lot, there's restrictions on this stuff. | ||
| So, should be interesting, but I'm curious to see where all these lawsuits end up, but regardless. | ||
| You know, it's not even 2024 yet, okay? | ||
| Primaries haven't happened, we're a month away from the Iowa caucuses, and already people are starting to get crazy. | ||
| It feels crazy. | ||
| Did you guys hear Klaus Schwab? | ||
| I think this video is real. | ||
| He said that he was railing against anti-system and saying that the biggest threat to the system is libertarians. | ||
| The libertarianism. | ||
| It's like, on Twitter, it was freaking me out. | ||
| It's like, this is the mask-off moment. | ||
| If this is a real video, and he's speaking out against libertarianism... The people who believe in freedom are the biggest threat! | ||
| He had a mask on. | ||
| To freedom! | ||
| That's literally what they say! | ||
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I love when they tell us to our faces what they're trying to do. | |
| It drives home the point that they know they don't have to be silent about it, or they think they have more power than they do. | ||
| Well, it's because the average person doesn't care. | ||
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That's true. | |
| I can't tell you how many people I've met who go, oh, well, I don't pay attention to that stuff. | ||
| There's a viral video where this woman is like, I just went to Chipotle and my burrito bowl was 1982. | ||
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I know I got guac, but that shouldn't make it 1982. | |
| Like, WTF is going on? | ||
| And it's like, well, as you sit there not paying attention, uh, your burrito bowls are becoming very expensive. | ||
| Now, for those of us that are paying attention, we're like, perhaps it was the several hundred billion dollars spent in foreign war garbage over the past couple years and the massive spending that, uh, resulted in hyperinflation. | ||
| I shouldn't say hyperinflation, being a little hyperbolic, but you get my point. | ||
| It's either that, you know, giving everyone $2,000 checks and big corporate bailouts. | ||
| That's also another big issue, another big problem that, of course, I think a lot of people need to deal with as well. | ||
| But we are not in a good situation. | ||
| There is a lot of lawfare. | ||
| Now some people say there's too much lawfare. | ||
| I would kind of agree with them, but right now it is very heavily one-sided. | ||
| It is essentially district attorneys financed by George Soros. | ||
| It is essentially a lot of the leftist organizations and groups that are kind of organizing themselves and suing and attacking everyone. | ||
| Alex Jones was sued for a billion dollars. | ||
| Elon Musk is being sued by those same individuals right now. | ||
| So we are sadly living in a day and age where lawyers are becoming more important, but also more powerful and more rich than they ever were before, since this is how we are seeing this kind of asymmetrical warfare being waged politically in a very dangerous gambit that is not good for America. | ||
| It's not good for its people. | ||
| And sadly, now everything you do and say has to be carefully monitored. | ||
| You have to watch yourself. | ||
| You make one mistake, you're going to get sued into oblivion. | ||
| And this is why the appeals case for what's happening to Alex Jones is so important, as of course, they found him guilty, and he owes a billion plus dollars for speech, which is absolutely crazy. | ||
| Well, he was found liable, but the important distinction here is that there was no trial. | ||
| People don't know this. | ||
| People are being told Alex Jones lost a lawsuit and is forced to pay over defamation. | ||
| No, he didn't. | ||
| It was a ruling in default. | ||
| The judge said, no trial for Alex Jones, you owe them. | ||
| Now we're going to have a hearing to determine how much you owe them. | ||
| And he couldn't defend themselves, and the major accusation was that he didn't provide discovery. | ||
| Uh, but according to Alex Jones, he was providing discovery. | ||
| He was providing a lot of the documentations that they were asking for. | ||
| He said that no matter what he gave them, they kept saying it wasn't it. | ||
| And that's, like, how do you, like, it's like torture almost. | ||
| You know, the torturer says, tell me the location of the Genesis device. | ||
| And the guy goes, I don't know. | ||
| So they hit him again. | ||
| Tell me or else. | ||
| I seriously don't know. | ||
| He's lying and they keep hitting you. | ||
| It's like, if you don't know, what are you supposed to say? | ||
| Just lie? | ||
| So they're like, we want these documents, and Alex Jones is like, well, there you go. | ||
| Okay, we want more. | ||
| He's like, that's it. | ||
| Nope, there's more. | ||
| You're lying. | ||
| And he's like, that's all I have. | ||
| And they're like, nope, default. | ||
| You lose. | ||
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Well, that's the danger of this litigious society, and it's kind of what we saw with Roger Stone, too. | |
| They did the same thing to him. | ||
| They accused him of lying. | ||
| Oh, you didn't turn over all the emails, or you did this, and therefore you tried to lie about this. | ||
| And he was like, no, that's not what happened. | ||
| But they can keep pushing you, and they can keep pushing you, and they can keep it in the court system, and they can keep making it not only a matter of The court but also the court of public opinion too like they can keep you under their thumb that way and they'll just keep telling you you're lying you're lying you're lying and then they make you into a monster publicly and in the court as to who you really are and that's kind of what happened with Alex Jones it happens with a lot of people but I think you're totally right this litigious society we live in is so dangerous because it's like at what point do we stop because if | ||
| The enemy's going to be doing that, right? | ||
| If they're going to be throwing lawsuits at everybody left and right, then our only way to defend ourselves is to throw lawsuits at them in response, which is what you're seeing, for example, in Missouri. | ||
| I bet artificial intelligence will take that task on. | ||
| They'll start using artificial intelligence to counter-sue and sue and counter-sue, and it'll just, you'll see, it'll upskill by magnitudes more. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| There's going to be AI writing, like, court documents. | ||
| It's going to be so weird. | ||
| Let's jump to the story, because this one's a good laugh. | ||
| Business Insider writes, Elon Musk's luck has finally run out. | ||
| Is this it? | ||
| It's the end for Elon? | ||
| Oh no. | ||
| It was a good run. | ||
| Lynette Lopez writing that Elon was on a heater. | ||
| From 2019 to 2022, it seemed if every single gamble he took was paying off, then he did what every risk-addicted blackjack player inevitably does. | ||
| He pushed his luck too far. | ||
| Overconfidence, confirmation buys, and delusions of control led to a string of bad decisions, and boom! | ||
| Elon's empire is in trouble again. | ||
| Oh no! | ||
| Oh, what's this? | ||
| The richest man in the world, Elon Musk? | ||
| $244.4 billion, thanks Tesla and SpaceX. | ||
| Hold on, I thought Elon Musk's luck ran out. | ||
| So what's the argument? | ||
| This is the narrative machine lying. | ||
| They don't want you to hear the truth. | ||
| Elon Musk engaged in political behavior. | ||
| Defending free speech, buying a big tech platform, and is winning. | ||
| He's got more FU money than anyone on the planet. | ||
| Tesla is slaying it. | ||
| Cybertruck is coming out. | ||
| Everyone's super excited. | ||
| SpaceX has the majority of all space launches. | ||
| And they're like, yeah, well, Elon Musk's failing because we don't like Twitter anymore. | ||
| Yo, Mark Zuckerberg barely even posts on threads anymore. | ||
| Nobody uses it. | ||
| But this is the narrative. | ||
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You know, what I think is happening is they're trying to scare their people out of doing what Elon Musk has done, particularly wealthier people. | |
| But I think Americans in general, it's sort of they're using him as an example of, you know, this is what happens when you speak out, when you do something to go against, when you're a dissenter, when you go against what the state says is acceptable. | ||
| They want you to think that he's a massive failure. | ||
| They want you to think that if you were to even go, you know, even try to do what he's done or go even remotely close to that, That the same thing is going to happen to you. | ||
| That everybody who does something that gets involved in politics and takes an opposing position to the state will fail. | ||
| And you will fail, too. | ||
| I think that's what this is part of. | ||
| Because every time somebody ventures out and tries to do something and they're successful at it when it comes to creating either a parallel economy, being a part of that, or doing what Elon Musk is doing, which is actually quite unprecedented, honestly, so it's hard to compare it to anything else. | ||
| But I think, more than anything, they just want you to believe that you will fail if you speak out, if you do something against the state. | ||
| That's why these articles are coming out. | ||
| Yep! | ||
| They'll take your money, they'll defame you, they'll destroy you, they'll take everything that they love from you, but will they be able to stop you? | ||
| Absolutely not! | ||
| Look what happened to Owen Schroer! | ||
| Look what happened to Alex Jones! | ||
| Look what is happening to all these individuals that they did everything to stop! | ||
| And then they have risen once again back up again. | ||
| And this is a big sign. | ||
| This is a huge case right now that they desperately want to be true. | ||
| They need it to be true, because if it's not, it's showing people that free speech is popular. | ||
| It's more popular than what the corporate advertisers want it to be. | ||
| It's more popular than the federal government, and the feds want it to be. | ||
| And I think free speech is the big winner here, and even though they're saying all this stuff, it doesn't mean it's true. | ||
| Look at this image they made of Elon Musk. | ||
| His forehead getting red and his money disappearing. | ||
| The dude's worth $244 billion. | ||
| He could lose all of Twitter and it's $44 billion value, not to mention he didn't pay for the whole thing because he got loans, and he'd still be worth, let's say he ate the whole cost of Twitter and it collapsed, he's worth $200 billion. | ||
| I don't get it. | ||
| They're just trying to push a narrative, like you were saying, Anna. | ||
| They want you to think that you cannot succeed doing this stuff. | ||
| Who is they? | ||
| This is, I'm not understanding. | ||
| A deep state. | ||
| He works for a Democrat. | ||
| He's got SpaceX. | ||
| You're asking who is they, though? | ||
| It is Democrat and neocon party establishment shills who are mad that they can no longer control the narrative. | ||
| It is the CIA and the FBI who had a direct line to Twitter and lost it and were using it to manipulate narratives. | ||
| Tesla, and especially SpaceX, is tight with the Department of Defense. | ||
| They need that technology, and he's helping them and working with them. | ||
| Isn't he being sued by Merrick Garland or whatever? | ||
| What happened with that? | ||
| He has multiple lawsuits, including some going after him for not hiring enough refugees in SpaceX. | ||
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Strange reason. | |
| The DOJ sued him in August for not hiring refugees despite the fact he's not legally allowed to. | ||
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I think they thought they could control him. | |
| I really do think they thought that, okay, well, he's still somewhat one of us. | ||
| He's not really that into politics. | ||
| And then they failed and he's, you know, fighting back and now they're starting to realize, oh, Elon's not on our side. | ||
| I think that they're really, they've lost their guy. | ||
| They lost, because I think they, The government likes to control the wealthiest people in the country and when they lose them, when they start to lose them, that's a threat to them because they have more power and that's what's going on here and we kind of saw it with, and this isn't really as big of a deal because they're not quite as wealthy as Elon, but what happened with the company that made Sound of Freedom, | ||
| They came after them, the whole, I think it was Rolling Stone, that a few other articles came after that too, but they attacked him calling them QAnon and conspiracy theorists and it's like, they, this is, it's the same thing as this, they want to make you believe you can't be successful if you provide a perspective outside of what the accepted narrative, but yeah, I think he's a particular threat because he's so wealthy and they thought that they could control him. | ||
| I think they did think they could regain control of him. | ||
| So this is what happens with, we put out a bunch of songs, and a lot of things have happened. | ||
| The first thing is Pete Parata, formerly of The Offspring, we make contact with them, we work together, we make a song, and when our publicist Reached out to various entertainment publications to say, former drummer from The Offspring working with Tim Pool. | ||
| The responses we got back were, go F yourself and things like that. | ||
| Unbecoming of entertainment reporters. | ||
| By all means, they could have been like, we don't like this, you know, you know, we're not fans of you politically, but there's news there in what we're doing. | ||
| Instead, the response was, not only are we going to ignore this to make sure no one knows you're doing it because we don't want to give you any press, because they view press as a weapon, they actually emailed us back. | ||
| We got emails back from a variety of different entertainment outlets saying, F yourselves. | ||
| And we were like, wow. | ||
| When we reached out to... I want to keep it relatively vague for legal reasons, litigious reasons. | ||
| When we reached out to various music industry groups like, here's the standard process by which we publish music, they outright just, whoopsie, screwed the songs up, screwed up tracking, rejected it, and we were just like, wow, man. | ||
| And so the original idea we had was to make a song mocking the whole industry. | ||
| And then when I saw what Jeremy Boring and Michael Knowles did with Together Again, The story that Jeremy told was, they offered a substantial, like 100 times the market rate to play a song. | ||
| And they were rejected. | ||
| And so Jeremy was like, we're going to make our own parody version of this song from the 60s. | ||
| It's like basically our version of an F.U. | ||
| And spend six figures doing it. | ||
| And so that's why we have the song coming out this Friday. | ||
| I don't want to ham it up too much, but I am, you know, we are promoting it. | ||
| The issue is, we need to win the culture war. | ||
| The institutions are controlled. | ||
| The media is controlled. | ||
| The movie industry is controlled. | ||
| And so, it's not just about making music. | ||
| It's not just about making movies. | ||
| It's not just about Elon buying X. It's also important to understand these institutions will spit in your face publicly, will lie about you outside of the media. | ||
| So this is why we're doing TheBestSongEver.com. | ||
| This is why we're making culture. | ||
| And it's all aligned with I don't know how to explain it, I guess. | ||
| More than just what people realize is captured, right? | ||
| You'd think, oh, the big labels will only sign bans. | ||
| No, you don't understand. | ||
| The financial institutions banning people, like web services cutting people off, when Gab had their hosting seized, right? | ||
| It's been a long time. | ||
| There are thin threads of infrastructure in all of these different networks where people will give you the middle finger and try and shut you down. | ||
| I think that's why music is so powerful and that writing really good music over and over and over and just putting out consistently really good songs is not really unstoppable, but pretty close to unstoppable. | ||
| With the radio and shortwave radio, it doesn't require a lot of bandwidth to get a song across to somebody. | ||
| You don't really need centralized networks. | ||
| And it changes people. | ||
| And then the people go and they seek out who did the song and they want to listen to them. | ||
| And if you're under five firewalls behind some mesh network on some pirate radio out at sea, they're going to find you and listen to you. | ||
| And I think that's the way to do it. | ||
| And if the messages are in the song and people don't even realize, that's another way to manipulate the masses into doing good. | ||
| We are building probably the largest private East Coast skate facility for a show and we're spending several million dollars. | ||
| We're bringing out pro skateboarders and big industry individuals and we're filming videos and we're doing it because, you know, like, I think everybody who plays video games, everybody who likes sci-fi movies, has seen wokeness infect their culture. | ||
| And with comic books and video games, it became very apparent ten years ago with, like, Gamergate. | ||
| And for me, it's like, I play video games sometimes, you know what I mean? | ||
| I don't really pay attention all that much. | ||
| So I was like, wow, this is kind of crazy. | ||
| Here's what's going on. | ||
| Then it came into skateboarding and it's bad. | ||
| And now I'm like, substantially more irritated and aggressive because it's attacking something that I participate in and care about really, really badly. | ||
| I mean, the woke stuff in skateboarding is just absolutely getting crazy. | ||
| And we see it with Taylor Silverman. | ||
| She's a female athlete and she loses to males on more than one occasion. | ||
| And we're seeing more than just that in advertising, in sponsorships. | ||
| Companies no longer sponsor the best skateboarders. | ||
| It's still there for sure. | ||
| But now there are people who are getting major sponsorship deals for identity politics. | ||
| And I'm like, we're gonna shut it down. | ||
| And at least in terms of what I know, music, skateboarding, etc, we are going to invest heavily in pushing back on all these cultural areas. | ||
| I hope everybody else does as well. | ||
| So seeing Ripaverse, Eric July's comic books, is, is, man, the victories just keep stacking themselves up. | ||
| So let's make more of those. | ||
| It's almost as if everything is being weaponized. | ||
| Lawfare is being weaponized, entertainment is being weaponized, movies are being weaponized, and the hearts and minds of individuals, especially during a war, are key to win over. | ||
| And I think this is the kind of groundwork we are seeing for What could be potentially a bigger conflict out there? | ||
| They are trying to win the hearts and minds of individuals they're losing. | ||
| Look what happened to Disney. | ||
| The Disney turnaround with Snow White. | ||
| The Disney individuals who, of course, are pissed off at the company, which Elon Musk spoke out against, specifically giving a big kind of F you to the company, And many people unsubscribing from that particular platform also highlights a big kind of shift in people's energy and reaction towards this, as of course everything woke now is being met with distaste and disdain, and I think it's great. | ||
| A lot of the people said that Vietnam was ended because of the musicians of the time, like Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young. | ||
| There was a riot at Kent State, 1970, May 4th, where all the students were out yelling, end the war, end the war, and they were throwing rocks at the National Guard, and the National Guard opened fire and killed four kids, four adults at that point. | ||
| And then Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young wrote a song called Ohio about that. | ||
| And it went hugely popular. | ||
| And it was also having the video cameras embedded in the war zone and seeing the horror that ended it too. | ||
| But those two things in conjunction woke the music, woke people up, seeing it. | ||
| We're in an age of deep fakes now, which is makes things a little strange. | ||
| I want to pull up this. | ||
| Did you want to finish? | ||
| No, you finished it for me. | ||
| Thanks. | ||
| I want to pull up this clip from Tucker Carlson, episode 49, the Dana White interview. | ||
| How many of you watched this? | ||
| Okay, it's basically just an ad for Bud Light, where Dana White says, I'll just grab a random point at this, let's just see what happens. | ||
| Support their people like Mexicans support their people, and you should be able to walk in with your country's flag, so I brought it back. | ||
| Were you under pressure not to allow it? | ||
| No, there's always, you know, when you deal with... I consider myself a proud American, I'm happy to be an American, I love this country, and you are way more aligned With Anheuser-Busch than you are with other beer companies. | ||
| That I guarantee you. | ||
| Have you taken any crap for it? | ||
| Listen, people are going to say what they're going to say. | ||
| I don't ever... I don't care what people... I know who I am. | ||
| I know what I stand for. | ||
| I know what I believe in. | ||
| And the people who are close to me know. | ||
| And, uh, I'm on the right side of this. | ||
| Basically, the first few minutes of this nine-minute clip is Dana White saying everyone should go out and buy cases and cases of Bud Light because they're more aligned with you than you know. | ||
| And I agree with him. | ||
| I agree with him. | ||
| I don't know how much he can say to drive the point home. | ||
| But you have a lot of people saying, no way, Bud Light is dead to me, etc. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| I don't think it matters all that much either way. | ||
| But I'm on the buy Bud Light train right now. | ||
| We have Brian Krasenstein says, quote, Buy Bud Light. | ||
| Dana White agrees. | ||
| Do you? | ||
| I think it's silly to judge a company by one single advertisement partner they have. | ||
| Whether it's the UFC or Dylan Mulvaney, just buy products you like. | ||
| Stop trying to cancel every single thing just because you may or may not 100% agree with every political ideology they may have. | ||
| This is one of the greatest victories. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| The right boycotted Bud Light. | ||
| Bud Light sales tanked 30%. | ||
| Bud Light desperately tries to win back the customers. | ||
| They sponsor Harley Davidson. | ||
| Doesn't work. | ||
| Then, they do a massive deal with UFC. | ||
| And we all kind of groan, like, why would UFC do this? | ||
| And then Sean Strickland comes out and says, Bud Light has now sponsored everything I have to say. | ||
| And he said some things I can't repeat on YouTube. | ||
| Because of the censorship. | ||
| But very, I would say, to many people, offensive, though many of these people are offended by everything. | ||
| And that means Bud Light switched from underwriting wokeness to underwriting anti-wokeness. | ||
| There's nothing more you can ask for. | ||
| I suppose you could ask for an apology. | ||
| But money has changed hands. | ||
| And there were people commenting on the Tucker interview saying, what did Bud Light do besides money changing hands? | ||
| And I'm like, that's exactly it. | ||
| They're funding a bunch of based AFMMA fighters now, and UFC, and not Dylan Mulvaney. | ||
| That's a win. | ||
| Individuals like Conor McGregor, who are also becoming more and more outspoken politically, and might even run to be president of the United States. | ||
| Sorry, president of Ireland. | ||
| And so now when Brian Krasinstein says, come on everybody, stop boycotting, I say, hear, hear. | ||
| When the Liberals don't boycott Bud Light, but the Conservatives do, it creates an inverse pressure. | ||
| The pressure used to be that Conservatives won't boycott, but Liberals will, so give the Liberals what they want, because Conservatives will just roll with the punches. | ||
| But now that Conservatives are boycotting, and the Liberals saying, roll with the punches, it's going to create the inverse pressure system, where now companies are going to push in the opposite direction and cancel the woke. | ||
| Does it have like a $100 million contract? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So the company that owns Anheuser-Busch is a Belgian. | ||
| It's not an American company, Dana, just so you know. | ||
| It's Belgian. | ||
| It's called AB InBev. | ||
| They bought it. | ||
| They're worth $15.5 billion. | ||
| So this drop in the bucket of their money, I don't see what you're seeing, Tim. | ||
| I kind of understand the method. | ||
| It's Bud Light specifically. | ||
| Yeah, but he's like Anheuser-Busch. | ||
| Anheuser-Busch is owned by AB Invent, which is a Belgian company. | ||
| He said, he said, buy Bud Light. | ||
| And he was just saying in that clip that Anheuser-Busch is the best American company. | ||
| It's the best. | ||
| It's a Belgian company. | ||
| I don't think he said it was American. | ||
| I thought I heard you say that. | ||
| Taking from somebody who's in the know, who does business with beer companies, you are way more aligned with Bud Light than you are with any other beer company. | ||
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| No. | ||
| Obviously. | ||
| We had multiple bidders on the table. | ||
| Did they seek you out? | ||
| We had multiple bidders on the table. | ||
| They were one of them. | ||
| And as I, you know, history has shown me with relationships that I've had with other beer companies, I, who lean more this way. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I, who consider myself a patriot. | ||
| I don't go crazy over the whole patriot thing, but I consider myself a proud American. | ||
| I'm happy to be an American. | ||
| I love this country. | ||
| And you are way more aligned with Anheuser-Busch than you are with other beer companies. | ||
| That I guarantee you. | ||
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| Listen, people are going to say what they're going to say. | ||
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I don't ever... I don't care what people... I don't think that they're an American company. | |
| Well, he's talking about patriotism there, and then he talks about... He wants you to associate it with being American. | ||
| You can definitely get that vibe, even if he doesn't say, like, oh, it's an American company. | ||
| He uses the word patriot and proud American, and then he sells you on a Belgian company that has no free speech. | ||
| What we want is a circumstance in which Bud Light loses money when they go woke, and they make money when they go anti-woke. | ||
| So that every single other company will go, hey guys, if we sponsor woke people, we're gonna lose money, but if we sponsor anti-woke people, we'll make money. | ||
| If everybody still boycotts Bud Light, then it's a win either way. | ||
| Because then companies are going to say, look, don't go woke because you'll lose money, but going conserved doesn't help you either, just don't go woke. | ||
| Wouldn't you consider what he just did woke? | ||
| Like he just said, I'm a patriot, I'm an American, so buy a Belgian beer. | ||
| Like what? | ||
| That's woke as hell. | ||
| Do your research, Dana. | ||
| It's a Belgian beer. | ||
| It's not woke at all. | ||
| How does that help American patriotism to serve the Belgians? | ||
| What? | ||
| He's encouraging people to buy his Belgian beer. | ||
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Well, I'm kind of split on this because... But what does that have to do with anything? | |
| He used patriotism to sell people on a foreign beer. | ||
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Yeah, it's disingenuous. | |
| I agree with you on that. | ||
| And I think that it would have been... Yeah, I mean, I think he clearly wanted you to associate this beer with patriotism for America. | ||
| And so that's disingenuous. | ||
| But I'm split on the idea behind it, what Tim's saying, because it's like, on one hand, it's yeah, it's kind of a Pavlov's dog situation where it's like, we want to train these companies to You can't put them out of business. | ||
| Anheuser-Busch could subsidize Bud Light at infinitum. | ||
| So the best opportunity is to give them the incentive. | ||
| maybe it takes actually putting these companies out of business to send a | ||
| clear message. Maybe that was the end. Maybe that should be the end goal rather | ||
| than just to make them suffer a little bit. I don't know. I'm not saying that | ||
| like, you know, I see both sides. You can't put them out of business. Well, | ||
| Anheuser-Busch could subsidize Bud Light at infinitum. So the best | ||
| opportunity is to give them the incentive. Use the carrot, not the | ||
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| boycott them. | ||
| Like, what's the end goal? | ||
| That would have to be the decided answer, and then I think, you know, you're... | ||
| Economic damage, which was 30% in sales, and then they gave $100 million to UFC, and at first we all said, oh groan, we don't like Bud Light, they got woke, they go broke, a lot of people wanted to go to business, and then Sean Strickland came out and said a whole bunch of things on Twitter, laughing, saying Bud Light sponsored, thank you, this message brought to you by Bud Light. | ||
| We all laughed and said, we went from Dylan Mulvaney, and in six months, Sean Strickland. | ||
| We like what Sean Strickland says, so we want Bud Light to fund more of what Sean Strickland says, and then we want every other company to see, hey guys, if we go with the UFC dudes, we're gonna make a lot of money. | ||
| I'm not going to be happy until there's a can of Sean Strickland with a durag | ||
| presented to the American people. If they do that, then maybe I could give them a | ||
| chance. Personally, I don't like alcohol. I don't like booze. | ||
| It calcifies your pineal gland. It gives you Bill Gates moobs. That's beyond | ||
| the point here. | ||
| Does it really calcify your pineal gland? | ||
| A lot of beer is filled with fluoride. | ||
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Ah, okay. There you go. I see. Okay, it's important to clarify. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think that, you know, I'm kind of like in the middle here as well, | ||
| Because I understand your point. | ||
| I understand your point as well here. | ||
| How do we kind of move forward here? | ||
| I would love to have an alternative company, an American company, come out and say, hey, we're going to take their lunch. | ||
| I would rather that, personally, myself. | ||
| We do have that. | ||
| We have ultra-right, conservative beer. | ||
| Yeah, conservative dad's ultra-right beer. | ||
| Personally, I'm like, don't do any of the food. | ||
| And Seth Weathers is going to be here. | ||
| On the show, I don't know, I think, maybe this week? | ||
| I think it's this week, yeah. | ||
| It's this week. | ||
| And what he's doing is fantastic, so, you know, you can check out his work as well. | ||
| But my point is just simply, it's not about destroying, it's like, look, do you want to raise the enemy village or take control of it to utilize its labor forces and resources? | ||
| Depends on the situation. | ||
| Certainly. | ||
| And in this situation, you have, you basically have a village of people who are all growing crops, bowing down to you saying, please, please, please, we'll give you our wheat, just please stop. | ||
| And instead it's like you've got people saying, no, no, just keep destroying everything. | ||
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But that's what they would do to us. | |
| They would destroy us. | ||
| I want their resources. | ||
| I want to take all of their money and put it towards Sean Strickland and other based UFC fighters so they can go on Twitter and say anti-woke things. | ||
| Destroying it doesn't serve a purpose. | ||
| Well, if you're talking about, see in the metaphor, you've got the people, and then you have the resources, and the people are traitors, and they say, please, please, please, let us join you, but they're treacherous, then you might want to remove the humans from that situation to take the resources for yourself. | ||
| There are other times that you would actually let them serve you. | ||
| The resources is the human capital and labor. | ||
| Then you would put them in slavery or something like that. | ||
| This is just military talk, of course, that you would enslave the population and make them work for you if you didn't trust them. | ||
| Not really, you just take taxes from them. | ||
| Yeah, it depends on how treacherous they are. | ||
| In military, you conquer a city and you use its resources towards your military goals. | ||
| In this instance, we're talking about culture war. We can see Bud Light destroyed, or all of | ||
| that money they have can go towards anti-woke initiatives, and then we're actually being | ||
| armed culturally against the wokeness. | ||
| If I see a point- I have another nuanced point on this that might be diverting | ||
| it a little bit, because I brought up Bill Gates' moves here, and I just | ||
| remembered Bill Gates bought a whole bunch of stocks for Anheuser-Busch, and therefore, Tim, I | ||
| totally disagree with you. | ||
| I am within No, Bill Gates buying public stock to try and destroy the company makes sense to help Bill Gates and to help Wokeness. | ||
| He wants to make sure no one gets behind the company and they can't recover for this reason. | ||
| He's basically saying, scorched earth, if they claim Bud Light, then we are going to lose resources by buying into it. | ||
| He's going to get people like you to refuse to support the company that is funding UFC anti-woke personalities. | ||
| I did some numbers earlier. | ||
| The revenue of Anheuser-Busch was $15.5 billion in 2018. | ||
| $15.5. | ||
| The revenue of its parent company was $52 billion. | ||
| So, $15, $52 in 2019. | ||
| Anheuser-Busch is a skin suit. | ||
| It's not a real company. | ||
| It's owned by a Belgian company called Anheuser-Busch. | ||
| $52 billion in income and revenue in 2019. | ||
| So, unless they put like $6, $7 billion towards this stuff that we like, I'm not going to start to think they really care at all. | ||
| I don't think they care at all. | ||
| This is just about publicity stuff. | ||
| Of course, and it doesn't matter. | ||
| Woke leftists have captured the institutions and the argument from the right is to sacrifice the institutions instead of reclaiming them? | ||
| That makes no sense. | ||
| The goal should be to reclaim and control all of the cultural institutions so that we can then indoctrinate young people to American values. | ||
| Some of the institutions need to fail, I think. | ||
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That's what I think, too. | |
| That's kind of why I'm in more of like the let them suffer. | ||
| And they would do that to us. | ||
| They want to destroy us. | ||
| They want to destroy everything. | ||
| And so if it was like a patriotic company, and this was happening, they'd be like, no, keep pushing them. | ||
| Don't buy anything from them. | ||
| That's why Like, whenever they cancel us, they have no forgiveness. | ||
| They have no grace whatsoever. | ||
| And it's like, why would we extend that to them? | ||
| Don't they need to suffer a little bit? | ||
| We're not extending it to them. | ||
| It's like saying, quick, burn down our own bridge that we've reclaimed because they would have burned it down too. | ||
| Why? | ||
| We need the bridge. | ||
| If we're going to build culture, why are we just going to destroy all of what they have built? | ||
| If we can just take it for ourselves and use it ourselves, why wouldn't we do that? | ||
| It makes no sense to get rid of it. | ||
| of the like it was a little bit like the one but one ring you know but light is | ||
| not a bullet is a factory You have woke forces and anti-woke forces. | ||
| Woke forces have taken over the factory. | ||
| As of the past few months, the anti-woke forces have reclaimed the servitude of the factory. | ||
| And now the argument is, quick, burn the factory down. | ||
| Why? | ||
| We have it. | ||
| It's ours. | ||
| We get it all. | ||
| Well, a reason why. | ||
| The anti-woke MMA fighters are getting paid more money, UFC is getting funded. | ||
| This means the public will recognize the statements made by these fighters are funded by Bud Light. | ||
| You have lost this cultural battle. | ||
| Except if the factory, if you're like, now that's our factory, but who is in that factory, running that factory, and who are their financial ties behind the scenes that I don't know. | ||
| So if I really want to leave that factory up and running, what's the risk? | ||
| I mean, the UFC is one of the most popular sports industries in the entire world. | ||
| They're not going to have problems. | ||
| They're financing one of the biggest kind of sports franchises in the entire world. | ||
| So what are they investing in? | ||
| I think that's a question that we should be asking ourselves because they will do anything for a buck. | ||
| They tried to sell tweens and small children alcohol by advertising with Dylan Mulvaney. | ||
| Is that something that is excusable? | ||
| That depends. | ||
| Is this something that we should be fighting for? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Let the audience decide. | ||
| If you think that we should be taking over the bridge, press 1 in the comment section. | ||
| If you think we should be, of course, punishing the woke bridge that tried to sell alcohol to children, press number 2 in the comment section. | ||
| So the issue would be like... | ||
| If you have a government that rules with an iron fist, eventually you will get revolt and collapse. | ||
| But if you rule through incentives and goals, you will have people enthusiastically supporting you. | ||
| If the anti-woke forces in the culture war send the message to big companies, no matter what you do, there is no coming back and we will destroy you, you know what their response is going to be? | ||
| Okay, well then we'll go woke because they'll at least give us money. | ||
| I think it's exhausting to do a boycott and it took the Bud Light, that Bud Light boycott was like a four month thing, three month thing to really, and it, to change, get people into the mindset of I'm done with that crap Bud Light. | ||
| I'm done with it. | ||
| I'm done with it. | ||
| Now to get them back into it doesn't sound good. | ||
| It sounds like you're going in reverse while you're going 80 on the highway and it's going to do more. | ||
| Confusion damage than worth it. | ||
| I think it boycotting this company's the right move It's just a multinational billion-dollar alcohol like we'll say this 30% sales are written off completely Stay the course and keep putting out pride ads, right? | ||
| They need like an off-ramp. | ||
| They need a place to go You can't just tell the world you're doing it wrong You have a wrong way to go and then not give them a chance to say hey, here's a better way Here's the way we the way forward you can't just tell them You know, that's what they're saying to us by cancelling us. | ||
| Dude, they spent $100 million trying to save themselves. | ||
| That's like next to nothing though compared to what they're worth. | ||
| $100 million to save themselves. | ||
| It's the biggest deal in UFC history. | ||
| It's 1 500th of their revenue. | ||
| That has nothing to do with the UFC getting the biggest deal in history. | ||
| Plus inflation. | ||
| The biggest deal in history. | ||
| Can I finish? | ||
| Yeah, go for it. | ||
| And the response from the anti-woke is, there is no recovery. | ||
| You are guaranteeing that the only thing Bud Light will do is say, then how can we get more beer from the left? | ||
| We have nothing, nothing to give the right, so cut them off, and never even try anymore. | ||
| It's like an abusive husband trying to come back. | ||
| Please take us back. | ||
| Like, dude, you screwed us. | ||
| Like, this company's been screwing the popu- I don't know. | ||
| This is why the right loses. | ||
| This is why the right has lost for so long. | ||
| Because the left marched through the institutions, and they said, now we have the New York Times. | ||
| Now we will use this to crush free speech. | ||
| And the right goes, let's just tear it all down. | ||
| I tell you, if Elon Musk buys AB InBev, I'm on board. | ||
| Sorry, Anna, were you gonna say something? | ||
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No, I was just going to say that I kind of agree with you. | |
| I think that there needs to be some example of what happens. | ||
| I'm not saying that needs to be the approach every single time a company goes woke, but I think we need a couple examples of like, hey, you will go out of business if this is the case, or you will suffer to a point where this particular product is not even something people want to buy in this country anymore. | ||
| I think, yeah, we sent them sort of a message, but I don't really think it was I think that it needs to go further. | ||
| I do think that as far as we need to use your resources, we don't really. | ||
| We could just fund other beer companies. | ||
| There are other beer companies. | ||
| We don't really need Bud Light to exist. | ||
| Bud Light, if that is the course taken, will start giving more money to woke initiatives. | ||
| They will fund more Pride events, they will fund more Pride commercials, and the right will be like, why are they doing this? | ||
| Oh no, well it's because you told them screw off. | ||
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But then we will continue to not buy it. | |
| But they're not dying because of it. | ||
| And all that will do is give the woke forces money. | ||
| You need Bud Light to commit 100% of their resources to anti-woke. | ||
| They'll never do that. | ||
| Right now, they've lost 30%. | ||
| They've lost 30% in sales. | ||
| We can tell them, hey, we'll give you that 30% back if you allocate your funding in our direction. | ||
| And they're saying, hmm, that sounds like it might work. | ||
| Let's try. | ||
| Let's give UFC $100 million. | ||
| And you've got people still saying, it'll never be good enough. | ||
| They go, eh, screw it. | ||
| That $100 million we're going to spend on UFC, give it to Dylan Mulvaney. | ||
| Is that what you want? | ||
| Because if these 30% of people never come back to Bud Light, they'll just give more money to Dylan Mulvaney. | ||
| Congratulations! | ||
| I mean, then you'll get more Pride events. | ||
| Or the inverse of it, because they could say, oh, you know, Bud Light could get away with this, they could advertise to small children, they could advertise Dylan Mulvaney, but if they just, you know, give a little bit money to the UFC, they're going to be cleared of all wrongdoing, and therefore, you know, why not get away with this even more? | ||
| Don't do it again, we'll lose the money. | ||
| The business guys are right now looking at their bottom line, and they're saying, we lost 30%. | ||
| How do we get it back? | ||
| We've got to get away from wokeness. | ||
| Before Dylan Mulvaney, we were at X amount of sales. | ||
| After Dylan Mulvaney, we're at X minus 30%. | ||
| To recover the 30%, we need to get away from wokeness and go towards something that's not woke. | ||
| If they give money to UFC and it works, they're going to say, never spend money on that stuff again. | ||
| If we say, no, you can never recover, they're going to say, we're at X minus 30. | ||
| We can't recover that 30%. | ||
| Stay the course, and at least we'll maintain the pride community. | ||
| They heavily know the choice at that point. | ||
| If they want to fail as a company, then they would be like, OK, well, I guess we're done. | ||
| I guess we are cancelled. | ||
| We quit. | ||
| If the investment caused a huge 30% loss, why do you think that they would continue that train of investment? | ||
| Because they've already lost at 30%. | ||
| There's no negative and there's no positive. | ||
| There's only negative. | ||
| No, there isn't. | ||
| They've already lost 30%. | ||
| And then they stopped doing it. | ||
| And so now they're saying, we've got people who are angry at us who are on the left, but the right won't forgive us at all ever. | ||
| So there's no point trying to recover that revenue. | ||
| Let's go back to the to the pride events and see if we can at least maintain that market. | ||
| That's like a I kind of want more from them. | ||
| I want more from Bud Light. | ||
| I want them to do more to show us that they're changing course. | ||
| I want reparations. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Give us some cultural reparations here. | ||
| Host an Irish Lives Matter protest in Ireland. | ||
| Let's do something like that. | ||
| Let's have Sean Strickland with the Durag on the can. | ||
| I want it. | ||
| I would then go out there and buy it. | ||
| I think we need just a little bit more from my perspective, but I might be asking too much. | ||
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I think what they're doing is too much of a wink-wink, nudge-nudge to the right, like, oh, we're on your side, guys. | |
| But we're still kind of in the left's camp. | ||
| They're playing it safe. | ||
| Give me more. | ||
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Yeah, I agree. | |
| I want more Clydesdale ads. | ||
| It's a Belgian company that wants the United States to fail, man. | ||
| It's just part of this international banking I'm listening to people who play chess being like, don't control the center of the board, it's pointless. | ||
| They wouldn't let us control it, so why should we? | ||
| And I'm like, what? | ||
| Take the factory! | ||
| Take the money! | ||
| Let's get that center out of the game so that we can play on a more equal ground. | ||
| You can't! | ||
| You cannot! | ||
| We can boycott companies to death. | ||
| Like, imagine a great general being like, don't take the field because they wouldn't let us take it either way, so we should run the other direction. | ||
| It's like, okay. | ||
| Let the world take all the institutions, let them take the universities, let them take the television networks, and then cross your fingers that ultra-right conservatives beer can rival the multi-billion dollar beer brand, and cross your fingers that Jeremy's Razors and Jeremy's Chocolates is going to beat Hershey's. | ||
| That's absolutely fine. | ||
| More power to you. | ||
| I just think if you have the option of occupying a major factor with billions of dollars and utilizing all of its resources to your end, you need to push that in your direction. | ||
| That's not what's happening. | ||
| Maybe the universities, maybe the media organizations need to fail. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's my perspective. | ||
| The universities, with how much injustice they caused, with how much servitude and debt they caused the American people, with how much just woke nonsense and poison that they have put into America, let them fail. | ||
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That's my perspective. | |
| They're not really reparable in my opinion. | ||
| They need to fail and maybe we build something else. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I agree at this point. | ||
| I don't know if we're at a point where we can fix it, even. | ||
| Yeah, everything's coming to a head. | ||
| Like they said, they're planning an October war. | ||
| It's no time to joke around right now. | ||
| The companies that are wrecking the American way of life need to fail, I feel. | ||
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But I think your point about it being not even American-owned, that's an important point. | |
| I don't think it makes it woke, but I do think it begs the question, why are they advertising it as they want us to associate it with American patriotism? | ||
| I think that is an important part of it. | ||
| Why are we mad at Bud Light? | ||
| They tried to sell alcohol to children and culturally promoted the larger ideology that Dylan Mulvaney represents. | ||
| And so what would make us not mad at Bud Light? | ||
| Nothing? | ||
| Never? | ||
| Kleize lads. | ||
| Literally nothing? | ||
| I had my things what I wanted. | ||
| I've got personal investments they could start going with, like graphene tech and high tech, like revolutionary energy technology. | ||
| I want that do-rag can. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| I want more. | ||
| I want them to say, we made a mistake. | ||
| We're going to fix it. | ||
| This is us standing by something new in the culture war. | ||
| We're going to have just as big of an impact like we did with De La Moveni. | ||
| We're going to have it bigger on the other side. | ||
| They gave Dylan Mulvaney $180,000. | ||
| They gave UFC $100 million. | ||
| Like, if you can't accept that as a victory, you will lose. | ||
| Because they lost money for six months. | ||
| They want you to think it's a victory. | ||
| It cost them nothing. | ||
| Relatively nothing. | ||
| One five hundredth of their 2019 revenue. | ||
| Revenue is not profit. | ||
| What's their profit? | ||
| Operating income. | ||
| Net income. | ||
| Jeez, their total assets are $236 billion. | ||
| What's their profit? | ||
| Alright, it doesn't say. | ||
| Revenue is not profit. | ||
| Their margins could be 3% for all we know. | ||
| Their operating income is $16.5 billion. | ||
| Right, and so what's their profit? | ||
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The net income? | |
| $9 billion? | ||
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No. | |
| We need their profit, their margins. | ||
| Because for a beer company shipping liquids, I imagine their margins are going to be relatively small, but they're still probably making billions. | ||
| But it's a question of, like, how much money are they generating? | ||
| And it's not even the question. | ||
| The question is this. | ||
| What is victory? | ||
| Seriously, what is your condition of victory? | ||
| If woke institutions say, okay, you win, we're gonna fund 10,000 times more money towards you, and you go, no. | ||
| It's like, okay, well, then you have no win condition. | ||
| What's your win condition? | ||
| But if it's like 10,000 times more for you, but it's one 500th less for them, you gotta do that opportunity cost. | ||
| And if it costs them next to nothing to give you a 5,000% boost, you gotta see, is it really costing them anything at all to make me think I'm gaining something? | ||
| Well, I mean, I'm all for it. | ||
| Well, honest question, guys. | ||
| What's your win condition? | ||
| They fail. | ||
| They lose. | ||
| The establishment just stops operating in a hurtful way. | ||
| The universities get shut down. | ||
| The corporate media gets shut down. | ||
| And people learn to... I'm talking about Bud Light. | ||
| I just think recapping... What's the win condition? | ||
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I think they would have to be so obviously patriotic in order for them to have any hope of us accepting them again. | |
| And I don't think this is enough. | ||
| I think this is just some guy being paid to say something that isn't even true, like the fact that it's such a patriotic beer. | ||
| And then in addition to that, I think that if they're not going to meet that expectation, which they won't, then yeah, I think we let them fail. | ||
| We let them fail on this particular product. | ||
| They won't fail. | ||
| I got a win condition. | ||
| Bud Light won't go out of business. | ||
| Anheuser-Busch loses so much money that they shutter it and Seth Weathers buys it. | ||
| Okay, well that's not going to happen. | ||
| Well, geez, yes it is. | ||
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What? | |
| That's my win condition. | ||
| Their sales drop has stalled at 30% and it's stabilized. | ||
| Well, let's shut it down. | ||
| Sell it to an American company. | ||
| Get it back, make it American again. | ||
| If the people who already stopped buying it stopped buying it, how do you make their sales drop further? | ||
| Get more people to stop buying it. | ||
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How? | |
| I want it to be an American company again. | ||
| That's my win condition. | ||
| Anheuser-Busch is an American company. | ||
| Okay, now my question is, how do you get Bud Light to be sold to an American company? | ||
| You gotta boycott it, basically. | ||
| Okay, that's already happened. What's next? | ||
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Keep the boycott going. | |
| Right. So they've been now for 75% of the year at around, averaging around 28 to 30% sales drop off. | ||
| What's the next play? | ||
| You would have to just continue doing, I mean, it would be exhausting to go after | ||
| one multinational company and try and bankrupt it. | ||
| Are you saying that, like, after a year of minus 30% sales, a stable... a stabilized sales base, they will eventually just say, you know, we're going to sell the product? | ||
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Well, we don't really owe them anything. | |
| So, like, if we just don't want to buy it because they don't represent what we believe in, then we just will continue to not buy it, you know? | ||
| Even if it doesn't put them out of business, per se. | ||
| So then the issue is, when condition is irrelevant, you just don't want to buy Bud Light. | ||
| I was really pissed off when they gave Dylan Mulvaney a commercial to sell beer to his audience, which was like 17-year-olds and stuff. | ||
| Young people. | ||
| I think it was 15 to 16-year-olds. | ||
| And that's like a beer company selling to that guy, having him sell to his audience. | ||
| That was really gross to me, like a total mismanagement. | ||
| Like, are they trying to poison our populace? | ||
| I know that people are sending fentanyl up across the southern border. | ||
| Like, what are they doing with Dylan Mulvaney and alcohol? | ||
| Well, just alcohol in general is a very net negative for your brain, for your health, but that's not talking about the conversation. | ||
| Tim brings up some good points that are worth considering. | ||
| For me, again, I'm just going to reiterate, maybe it's not the strategic, maybe it's not the smartest move, but I do think culturally a lot of what the corporations do matters. | ||
| If they're trying to appease the ESG social credit scorer, Klaus Schwab, Rothschild, Pope Connected, revisionist of capitalist individuals, if they're trying to do that, they deserve to fail in my opinion. | ||
| Got it. | ||
| We boycott UFC next. | ||
| Some people have said that. | ||
| that. Then that's the move we make right now and we give Dana White the middle finger. | ||
| Because if Dana White is going to accept Bud Light and you guys won't, then we must now | ||
| condemn UFC, Sean Strickland, Dana White, and any single one of them who advocated for | ||
| defending Bud Light. I thought it was a total sellout on Dana's part. I agree. And Sean | ||
| Strickland. I want you guys, like, we gotta call them all out. If Sean Strickland comes | ||
| out and says Bud Light's being rehabilitated by me, and you guys are saying no it's not, | ||
| then we call him out too. | ||
| Boycott him. | ||
| He just fought the other night. | ||
| No, no, did he fight recently? | ||
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No. | |
| Sean Strickland? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He fought a couple of weeks ago. | ||
| That's right, that's right. | ||
| He became champion of the UFC. | ||
| He's out then. | ||
| He's going to be fighting soon. | ||
| Then don't watch it. | ||
| I really like him. | ||
| I like Dana White. | ||
| You cannot. | ||
| You cannot simultaneously condemn Bud Light, but then defend the people who are defending Bud Light. | ||
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I agree, I agree. | |
| I actually think this is totally fake, this whole UFC thing, this, oh, we're gonna support Bud Light now. | ||
| I don't like it. | ||
| I think that it's... And I don't like the way... And I never picked up on this before, you pointed it out, but the way he wants us to associate... | ||
| Supporting Bud Light with patriotism, like that's just slimy, especially when it's not owned by an American company. | ||
| So I actually agree. | ||
| I think you're right. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I would do the same. | ||
| The next move is we boycott it for everybody who thinks Bud Light should not be rehabilitated. | ||
| We have to call out Dana White. | ||
| We have to boycott UFC. | ||
| We have to call out any UFC personality supported this and refuse to watch or purchase any or tickets to their fights and demand that Shawn and any other UFC fighter Refuse to participate in UFC until they cancel their sponsorship with Bud Light. | ||
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Wait, I do wonder though, and I don't know, maybe it's true, but did UFC specifically make a deal with them or was it just the fighters? | |
| UFC. | ||
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Okay. | |
| And then Strickland came out saying that he was going to save Bud Light because he said a whole bunch of anti-woke stuff on Twitter and said, brought you by Bud Light. | ||
| If that is unacceptable, then we need to call out anybody who's standing alongside Bud Light. | ||
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I actually think that's a fair thing. | |
| I think that to stay consistent, I think that is fair. | ||
| And I think that I would support that. | ||
| Well, right on. | ||
| So you guys in favor of boycotting UFC? | ||
| I don't watch UFC anyway. | ||
| I do like watching guys fight, because it's a cool sport. | ||
| Luke, you won't do it. | ||
| But the sellout Dana White... I'm thinking about it. | ||
| I like watching the UFC. | ||
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That's right. | |
| I'm just being honest and transparent here. | ||
| It's easy for you to boycott Bud Light. | ||
| You don't drink alcohol. | ||
| Is it easy for you to boycott the UFC? | ||
| I mean, Dana sold his idea. | ||
| He said, patriotism, patriotism, buy Belgian company. | ||
| And it's like, yo, Dana, that ain't American. | ||
| So maybe he just wanted the money, a hundred million bucks. | ||
| He's going to keep the company solvent for another three years or whatever the hell. | ||
| And he wants to sign another deal with them later. | ||
| That's why he's talking so highly of him right now. | ||
| It's easy to boycott a product you never bought in the first place. | ||
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That's fair. | |
| I don't really watch UFC, so it's hard for me to say that. | ||
| And Luke's a big UFC fan. | ||
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But are you going to support UFC after they just- I thought about that. | |
| I heard Dana White's arguments and I heard this endorsement and it kind of rubbed me the wrong way. | ||
| And I was like, it kind of does seem like profit is a little bit more important than the kind of culture war here. | ||
| That was my initial reaction from it. | ||
| Am I wrong? | ||
| I could be. | ||
| I'm not always right. | ||
| I'm not always perfect myself. | ||
| I at first said Sean Strickland was wrong. | ||
| Dana White was selling out. | ||
| And then I actually listened to what Sean Strickland was saying and I realized he was right. | ||
| That this is a major win. | ||
| But if that is unacceptable, and I'm wrong, then we cannot just accept that UFC took a hundred million dollars from a corporation that has no intention of actually standing up for our values. | ||
| And we cannot allow... That would mean Dana White's a traitor. | ||
| A sellout, and that means all of these UFC fighters are willing to fight in the ring with the Bud Light logo, don't care about our values either. | ||
| You know, I'm not too worried about international business. | ||
| It's not my fight. | ||
| I don't like that they sold beer to a child market through Dylan Mulvaney. | ||
| That was, like, over the line. | ||
| But I don't necessarily want to go after every multinational corporation just because they're multinational corporations and they get into ESG. | ||
| Like you said, there's always so much mind focus that one can do, and to do a constant boycott of every company that touches every company I don't like, I don't like doing that kind of thing. | ||
| Well, I don't see the logic in saying Bud Light can never recover, but we're absolutely on board with companies colluding with these unrecoverable companies. | ||
| Like, when UFC first announced this major deal with Bud Light, the immediate reaction was, boycott UFC. | ||
| And that's what everybody was saying. | ||
| Let's go to Super Chats! | ||
| If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, head over to TimCast.com, click join us. | ||
| We're gonna have a members-only show coming up for you in about 23 or so minutes. | ||
| It's gonna be fun because we got some interesting subjects to talk about. | ||
| We're gonna rag on Bill Maher. | ||
| Because Bill Maher triggered a woke activist talking about transgender issues, and I think we should break this down. | ||
| So before all that, we'll read what y'all have to say. | ||
| Clint Torres wins first place. | ||
| He got the first super chat saying, howdy people. | ||
| Howdy. | ||
| Howdy, with a little waving emoji and a cowboy man. | ||
| Alright, Andrew D843 says, Congress said they didn't have $9.7 billion over 10 years to fund the major Richard Starr Act, but can send $75 billion plus to Ukraine this year. | ||
| Over 50,000 troops who got injured in combat and medically retired don't get retirement to this day. | ||
| And that's why we all hate Congress. | ||
| Because that is corruption right there. | ||
| Money for... what is it? | ||
| They got money for the war but they can't feed the poor? | ||
| Who said that? | ||
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What was that quote? | |
| That's a good line. | ||
| I don't remember who said that. | ||
| It was something like... was it Tupac? | ||
| Luke's yelling it from the bathroom but I can't hear him. | ||
| Luke knew. | ||
| Luke's yelling it from the bathroom but I can't hear him. | ||
| He yelled Tupac? | ||
| Was it? | ||
| What did he say? | ||
| Joe Mitchell? | ||
| Joe Mitchell. | ||
| That was the first name that came up. | ||
| I couldn't... he was yelling from the bathroom. | ||
| Oh yeah, it was Tupac. | ||
| Thanks, Luke. | ||
| Alright, here we go. | ||
| Raymond G. Stanley Jr. | ||
| says... I did not know that Tupac quote. | ||
| Tupac quote. | ||
| Tim, I knew the quote, I just didn't know it was him. | ||
| Tim, it's indisputable that the line is being forwarded, culturally and politically. | ||
| There's been too many recent positives to not see the line moving. | ||
| I completely agree. | ||
| Mike Cernovich had a great tweet. | ||
| He said, imagine going to 2020 and claiming that the presidents of Harvard, Penn, and MIT were facing removal for anti-Semitism, and that Alex Jones had been brought back to Twitter, which is now called Axe. | ||
| You'd be 51-50. | ||
| Great point. | ||
| Brilliant point, too, because he's absolutely correct on that. | ||
| Jacob Paradis has just saw The Shift over the weekend. | ||
| Highly recommend. | ||
| If you don't know already, Sean Astin gives one of the best lines so far. | ||
| Quote, I'm always packing. | ||
| Well, alright. | ||
| Codex says sign up for X today. | ||
| Just to have my account vanish on logging out right after I paid for premium. | ||
| X support sent an auto message saying can't verify the account doesn't exist. | ||
| Man, Elon makes it hard to support free speech. | ||
| Well, you gotta understand. | ||
| Twitter was a disgusting sinking ship and Elon has been working tirelessly to try and fix it. | ||
| I will say, unfortunately, however, and we'll get into this in the members only, Grok is woke. | ||
| Oh yeah? | ||
| Super woke. | ||
| You've been testing it? | ||
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Dude, Grok is so woke. | |
| So, we'll save this for the members only, but yeah, I've been testing out Grok, which is Twitter's large language model. | ||
| We call him AI, I guess. | ||
| And if you ask it a question, a fact-based question, it won't give you the answer. | ||
| It'll give you a non-answer related to some woke issue. | ||
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Oh no, that's not good for the future of AI. | |
| We know it's all gonna be woke. | ||
| But I'll show you exactly what I mean. | ||
| If you look at my Twitter, you can see it, but I'll save it for the members only. | ||
| People are saying I just did a Vivec. | ||
| A Vivec? | ||
| Your mic wasn't hot. | ||
| It sounded like he was making espresso or something. | ||
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I think it was a sink that was on. | |
| Yeah, that's what it sounded like. | ||
| He could have peed and then washed his hands. | ||
| Both could be true. | ||
| I listen to it and I'm like... | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Okay, I gotta be honest. | ||
| If that was urinating, Vivek's got a seriously damaged and enlarged prostate and he's having trouble urinating. | ||
| Like, that doesn't sound like a man going to the bathroom, especially a 38-year-old. | ||
| It sounded like he was making a coffee or an espresso or something. | ||
| I don't know, whatever. | ||
| I don't know, I don't know! | ||
| Whatever. | ||
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Alright, alright, let's read some more Super Chats. | |
| What do we have here? | ||
| Waffle Sensei says, funny how they told us to build our own platforms to share our opinions, now they team up with the government to try and destroy those platforms. | ||
| Sounds like they did that with Parler. | ||
| I'm willing to bet the government was involved in getting Parler taken down. | ||
| Buster Ruckus says, are we not going to talk about the black woman who tried to burn down MLK's house? | ||
| We all know who the media would blame if she hadn't been caught. | ||
| That's a crazy story, I don't know enough about it though, but yeah, there was like some black woman was caught trying to burn down Martin Luther King Jr.' 's house. | ||
| You mean a white supremacist? | ||
| I mean, they'll call him that, I guess. | ||
| Was it Larry Elder? | ||
| Kyle Beckham says, there is a mobilization happening. | ||
| I have it from Navy buddies that deployment will occur in August to the Pacific. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| I'm hearing a lot about that too, but it's hard to discern if it's true or not. | ||
| That Panama Canal. | ||
| That a lot of troops are being called up. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Panama. | ||
| Over Venezuela? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I mean, Venezuela also, there's another war there brewing as well. | ||
| The Panama Canal is super valuable, though. | ||
| It's like the Suez. | ||
| It's just so important to have control of that thing. | ||
| All right, where are we at? | ||
| Paul Tascalo says, SNL irony. | ||
| Fired Shane Gillis in 2019 for an offensive joke. | ||
| Shane is currently one of the most successful stand-up comedians and sketch actors. | ||
| SNL now making tone-deaf, unfunny, offensive garbage. | ||
| Get woke, go broke. | ||
| I had to correct you there, Paul. | ||
| You made a mistake. | ||
| It's get woke, go broke, as it's been for 10 years. | ||
| But yeah, SNL. | ||
| Did you guys watch that opening? | ||
| I couldn't even finish it. | ||
| No, I couldn't. | ||
| I couldn't get through it. | ||
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Yeah, but I did hear a little bit of it. | |
| It wasn't funny in any way, and the weirdest thing is they attacked Elise Stefanik, and they added things that were not part of the hearing. | ||
| It was clear they were not engaged in making jokes. | ||
| Elise Stefanik said, Is it a violation of your rules to call for the genocide of Jews? | ||
| In the SNL version, she goes, Antisemitism is up your a**! | ||
| And it's like, what? | ||
| And then the woman, then the president of one of the organizations goes like, we try to limit hate speech against all students, including Jewish students, Muslim students. | ||
| And then Elisa Fonik goes, nope, nope, nope, not that one, not that one. | ||
| And I'm like, I don't understand what the joke is, because Elisa Fonik in no way insulted Muslims. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They're just trying to... This is what they did when Tina Fey made fun of Sarah Palin and said, I can see Russia from my house! | ||
| And then liberals all believed Sarah Palin actually said that. | ||
| Sarah Palin actually said, when it comes to negotiating with Russia, we actually do negotiate every year because of the Bering Strait, because we have ships moving through territorial waters. | ||
| And interestingly, in the westernmost point of Alaska, you can actually see with the naked eye Russia. | ||
| So as these ships are coming through, like a very articulate and composed statement about international relations, in order to discredit her as a politician, Tina Fey says something dumb, and then people think Sarah Palin actually said something dumb. | ||
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There you go. | |
| I figured out where the joke is. | ||
| The joke's on Lorne Michaels. | ||
| That show sucks, Lorne. | ||
| It's time to pack it in, man, or sell it or something. | ||
| Get a better cast. | ||
| Is he still around? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He kickin' it. | ||
| Man. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Let's grab some more. | ||
| Voice of the People says Luke is right. | ||
| My account was nuked on YouTube for asking questions about the jab. | ||
| I'm picking up slowly on Rumble with listening to the Senate and committee hearings. | ||
| It's wild what they say themselves. | ||
| Yeah, they try to destroy independent media and they were ruthless with it. | ||
| The smaller creators I think had a bigger impact than some of the bigger guys that got hit because that really changed the people who would be bigger players now that are that are not. | ||
| And that was the big thing with. | ||
| Twitter censorship going back several years. | ||
| They'd make arguments like, we didn't ban conservatives, and that was a mistake, and they were restored. | ||
| Ah, but what was happening was, they rolled out an algorithm on Twitter, back in the day, where it was banning anybody who said hashtag learn to code, unless you were on a whitelist. | ||
| That's why when I tweeted hashtag learn to code, nothing bad happened. | ||
| But that's why when the editor-in-chief of, I think it was the Daily Caller, tweeted it, he got banned. | ||
| And they went, whoops, that was an accident, sorry about that, that wasn't supposed to happen. | ||
| The only issue, all the small accounts who tweeted it got banned, and they had no advocates, and no PR, and were unable to actually get their accounts restored. | ||
| So they were getting rid of all of the grassroots sentiment opposed to the media industry, That's how they did it. | ||
| It's like the movie Scream. | ||
| The groups all walk in and one guy gets yanked from behind and they just keep walking. | ||
| They don't know what's happening. | ||
| That kind of thing. | ||
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Yeah, it is sneaky. | |
| Purple says, what is SCNR? | ||
| Switching it up with no explanation. | ||
| You know, this is one of the bigger challenges with any show. | ||
| Good Sir Purple, if you watched every episode of Timcast IRL, you'd know exactly what SCNR was. | ||
| But the issue is, I think on average a person will watch between 2.5 to 6 I say that it's wide range because different platforms have different metrics. | ||
| On audio versions, it's like two and a half podcasts per person. | ||
| And then a little bit more, maybe it's like three. | ||
| And then on YouTube, it's like seven or eight. | ||
| So if you skip an episode, you're going to be like, what's this? | ||
| Well, you know, to be continued, you got to go back and watch all the old episodes, which, you know, is not reasonable. | ||
| Put them all on at the same time. | ||
| It's a wild sound. | ||
| You know what is funny? | ||
| There was this woman who wrote this fake academic study where she, it was called the Alternative Influencer Network or something, where she claimed that a bunch of like anti-establishment YouTubers were all secretly connected. | ||
| And she connected Chris Ragon, who does like video game content, to Richard Spencer. | ||
| These two guys who have never met before. | ||
| And so she got roasted for it. | ||
| And then I guess because of that, she did a research paper on me specifically, where she said she watched all of my content, and I gotta be honest, I was flattered. | ||
| And I was like, yo, that's like six, at the time it was four hours of content, Monday through Friday, and two hours, Saturday and Sunday, because this was back in, what is this, 2020, when I was doing Weekends. | ||
| I was zero days off. | ||
| Weekends I would record until like three, and then Monday through Friday was three, and then also IRL. | ||
| And she actually wrote a paper saying she had watched every single one of my videos and back catalog. | ||
| And then she was like, he's liberal. | ||
| I'm like, wow. | ||
| Think about how, like, mentally unwell you'd have to be to watch every Tim Pool video ever. | ||
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There's a lot of people out there being like, uh... I think she wants to date you. | |
| I like you. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| You know, good for her, though. | ||
| It's like, wow. | ||
| That means she had to have watched, in order, like, I was tracking from when she finished the articles, like, a couple years after. | ||
| I was like, that means she had to have watched three days of my content every day, Monday to Sunday, non-stop. | ||
| Maybe she had them at two-point speed. | ||
| I gotta be honest. | ||
| Two-time speed, yeah. | ||
| Sure, but she still had to watch three days worth of content. | ||
| It could also be she's lying. | ||
| How about that? | ||
| That's Occam's razor at work. | ||
| No. | ||
| Slicing the truth in half. | ||
| These shady individuals connected to Indel, Agent Caesars, and George Soros don't lie. | ||
| Gustavo Gutierrez says, I'm Venezuelan and want to clarify a factor regarding Esequibo, Zona de Reclamation. | ||
| The land was Venezuelan from the get-go. | ||
| I do not agree with how Maduro is going about the reclaim of the land. | ||
| Please read the history. | ||
| Very interesting. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| There's a big fight brewing there. | ||
| And even Google's long had a dotted line for the border. | ||
| It's been disputed. | ||
| But it is kind of funny that they're like, hey, there's oil here. | ||
| And then Maduro's like, we should reclaim our land. | ||
| Oh, there's value there now. | ||
| And, you know, it's a good reason for us to go in. | ||
| Let's grab some more. | ||
| Legama says, I disagree about Bud Light. | ||
| Corporations must understand going woke will be their end. | ||
| They must perceive it as an unacceptable risk that nobody dares to bring up in boardrooms for fear of being fired. | ||
| This is how we crush the woke without Boogaloo. | ||
| So there's another way of looking at it. | ||
| We want companies of their own volition to invest in anti-woke initiatives. | ||
| We don't want neutrality. | ||
| We want to win. | ||
| So the message should be, get anti-woke, make lots of money. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| If the message is, enter politics in any fashion and you lose, it's still a win, you know, because companies will just be like, I don't want to get political. | ||
| But we win faster if companies were like, A, sponsor more anti-woke channels. | ||
| It's tough with these big public companies because Vanguard and BlackRock and Statesphere are so heavily across the board, but private companies can twist and turn a lot easier. | ||
| So sometimes it's better for one big woke company to fail and a new one to start up than it is to try and change that big behemoth of an organization. | ||
| Andrew says, hey Tim and cast, the Obamas produced a film called Leave the World Behind, which showcases the breakdown of society during a cyber attack. | ||
| Thoughts? | ||
| There's also a scene going viral where a woman says, don't trust white people. | ||
| I don't know what that's all about, but, you know, it's in the movie, whatever that means. | ||
| Bleach white people? | ||
| Context is important, because I doubt it, but for all we know, she's not a good guy in the film. | ||
| You know, she's saying things like, I'm racist, blah blah blah, and then they're like, showing her saying that, but I'm assuming the assumption is she's just, you know, like... Being woke. | ||
| Yeah, and it's a woke film. | ||
| I watched the trailer, it definitely seems like a very woke film that the Obamas produced. | ||
| We've said the word woke so many times in the last three minutes, it's so funny. | ||
| Project Additon says, just make Bud Light the 51st state. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Well there you go, problem solved. | ||
| Oh, corporations are states now, as well as people? | ||
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That's an Ian argument. What do we got here? | |
| Michael Jackson, the Michael Jackson says, Do y'all really think Dana doesn't have a cancel clause? | ||
| Then Dana is hardcore against Bud Light. | ||
| It's a possible lose-lose for Bud Light. | ||
| So then, if the point is Bud Light can never recover, we have to force UFC into canceling their Bud Light contract. | ||
| The biggest victor over Bud Light would be, if you want it to be a nuclear bomb in terms of Bud Light sales, having UFC break their contract and kick them out would be the most devastating defeat Bud Light could face. | ||
| That would be awesome, and you should have Dana White on The Culture War. | ||
| That would be awesome, to defend why he did that. | ||
| That would be so cool. | ||
| Because he might have a good reason for taking the $100 million. | ||
| There might be more to it. | ||
| I mean, obviously. | ||
| Yeah, he's got a hundred million reasons. | ||
| But if that's not enough, that you have to boycott UFC. | ||
| The only problem is, I don't think you can boycott UFC. | ||
| I don't think the fans will boycott UFC. | ||
| And UFC did not do anything as egregious as Bud Light. | ||
| They've simply aligned themselves with Bud Light. | ||
| So you can accept Sean Strickland going anti-woke and taking Bud Light money, and taking, claiming, sticking his flag in the Bud Light factory, or you can say, no, we reject this, you're collaborating with the enemy, and tell Sean Strickland, no, we don't accept what you're saying, Dana White, you've sold out, UFC, be gone. | ||
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Yeah, I mean, I think that it's mostly in theory, the argument. | |
| I don't think people would actually boycott UFC. | ||
| I think it's what would need to happen to make the point, but I don't think you would be on enough of a grand scale. | ||
| People just like, especially conservatives, they like UFC too much. | ||
| I think Luke's silently breathing a sigh of relief as you said that. | ||
| Raymond G. Stanley Jr. | ||
| says, I gotta say, the whole Bud Light convo was fantastic. | ||
| Do you get hold the line or forward it? | ||
| Hold it with boycott or forward it by using honey for bees? | ||
| Eric Max says, Tim is right. | ||
| The more money for the anti-woke, the better. | ||
| Frog Boogers says, Bud Light never apologized. | ||
| Hold them accountable. | ||
| Supporting them again gives them an opportunity to just sweep what they've done under the rug. | ||
| So, uh, don't ever buy Hugo Boss or Volkswagen either. | ||
| For real. | ||
| Because they serve the Nazis? | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| IBM as well? | ||
| But I mean, seriously. | ||
| Yeah, IBM. | ||
| No, no question. | ||
| Don't buy any IBM computer parts or IBM machines. | ||
| Uh, go Mac. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Oh, wait. | ||
| No, Mac used the Foxconn labs where all those people were marching off the roofs in suicide. | ||
| Okay, um, you ever see Ancient Technologies on YouTube? | ||
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No. | |
| Where the guy, like, builds cool stuff from, like, mud? | ||
| Pools and stuff. | ||
| Oh, this life awaits you. | ||
| And I don't mean that, I'm only half kidding. | ||
| It looks so awesome and fun to, like, you ever see those guys, they build a swimming pool? | ||
| Are those the two Indian guys? | ||
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Yeah, I've seen those. | |
| Come on, that stuff's awesome. | ||
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It turns out they had machines behind the scenes. | |
| Really? | ||
| It's not real. | ||
| Oh, I was tricked! | ||
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Yeah, that is disappointing. | |
| You know they did that with little hand trowels and stuff like that? | ||
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I want to believe it, okay? | |
| I was told that it's fake, but it could be wrong. | ||
| There could be people that do it for real. | ||
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There could be. | |
| That's a good point. | ||
| It could be both things. | ||
| Waffle Sensei says, the action of going anti-woke is more important than the apology. | ||
| I want to win. | ||
| Sam T says, people who are calling for Bud to go down clearly never had a dog. | ||
| You encourage good behavior and discourage bad behavior. | ||
| Simple. | ||
| Anyone with intel stats over three will figure that one out. | ||
| Yeah, but they're using math. | ||
| There's no dog to entice in this situation. | ||
| It's all mathematics and machine algorithm work. | ||
| So, like, you've got to just play the numbers on this one. | ||
| Logic Plague says, Wokeness has infected something we all love. | ||
| At some point, I'd rather see those things reclaimed than destroyed. | ||
| Yeah, like, we're retaking the ground. | ||
| We've lost the ground. | ||
| Why aren't we retaking it? | ||
| We should be happy we're retaking it. | ||
| That's the way I see it. | ||
| Mr. Big says, Tim's argument is baseless. | ||
| Twitter X isn't real. | ||
| Nothing has changed at Bud Light except Tim's attitude towards it. | ||
| Bud Light execs are laughing. | ||
| No, my attitude was, Sean Strickland is wrong and Dana White sold out, and then Sean Strickland made a bunch of statements on Twitter under the banner of Bud Light, and Bud Light said nothing. | ||
| And I was like, whoa! | ||
| Bud Light wouldn't even dare denounce the things said by Sean Strickland, and he claimed it was sponsored by them! | ||
| And I'm like, that's it. | ||
| They are cowering right now. | ||
| But if you'd rather see them destroyed, then by all means, you have to stop collaborators. | ||
| You have to boycott the collaborators. | ||
| I don't see anything other than hypocrisy for the people who are like, well, I'll keep watching UFC, but I don't like Bud Light. | ||
| Why? | ||
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No, I agree with that. | |
| I just think in theory, it makes sense, but on a mass scale, it wouldn't be effective enough. | ||
| And also, there's always going to be a conservative that will sign on to some sort of deal like that, because it is so much money. | ||
| Even if you were to boycott UFC, it's going to be somebody else who's going to endorse them. | ||
| And whether or not that's going to be effective enough to get people to buy the beer again, I don't know. | ||
| There's just always going to be somebody who's willing to do anything for money. | ||
| Nobody's gonna boycott UFC. | ||
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Yeah, I don't think so either. | |
| The statement is, we're still mad at you, Bud Light, but we won't boycott UFC. | ||
| Now they're laughing. | ||
| And Bud Light's saying, we got you by the balls. | ||
| We know you're not willing to boycott UFC. | ||
| So we can give them money. | ||
| We can win. | ||
| And y'all won't do anything about it. | ||
| So you can take the PR victory and say, we've won and Bud Light has caved to give us their money. | ||
| Or you can say, you're right. | ||
| We can't stand up for our convictions. | ||
| We will not condemn UFC. | ||
| We will not condemn these fighters. | ||
| And that's it. | ||
| Bud Light wins. | ||
| I think that they only care if they make money, so we're gonna see if people... Sales have not recovered, no. | ||
| If they buy it, if they don't, I think that's going to be the big tell here. | ||
| As of the latest report, which is in 2 December, I believe, their sales are still down year over year by 30%, which means... | ||
| So, it's not dropping every month by 30% more. | ||
| It means that December 2023 sales compared to December 2022 sales, they've seen a decline of 30%. | ||
| That means they've stabilized. | ||
| 30% boycotted Bud Light over Dylan Mulvaney, and their sales have stabilized at this number and not changed. | ||
| In fact, it's fluctuated a little bit up and down. | ||
| Well, from 22 to 23, they're down 30%. | ||
| Are they in a downward trajectory? | ||
| No, they are not. | ||
| They're stable. | ||
| Bud Light sales are stable at 70% of their previous number. | ||
| So every time they say, sales this month are down 30%, they don't mean month to month. | ||
| That indicates that the people that were triggered by the Dylan Mulvaney event have already done the boycott. | ||
| They boycotted, and everyone else just wasn't necessarily triggered by it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so what's going to happen is, by April... When was the boycott? | ||
| May? | ||
| Is when it started? | ||
| By May of next year, Bud Light's going to show that their sales have recovered, and they're going to say sales have gone from... So what's going to start happening is, Once they get to the beginning of May, they're going to say, sales are now down 20%, sales are now down 15, sales are now down 7, sales are now down 9, and the media is going to report en masse, Bud Light sees massive recovery. | ||
| And what may end up happening at that time, is that right before that happens, Bud Light will do something sort of woke. | ||
| And then when the sales start recovering, because they're not really recovering, it's just that year-over-year sales are stable, that means the percentages will go to zero. | ||
| They'll claim, our sales recovered from 30% losses by doing this campaign, and they can make that campaign whatever they want it to be. | ||
| And that'll be the PR narrative. | ||
| So either you guys defeat Bud Light 100% and they lose completely before May of next year, or You force UFC fighters to say a whole bunch of shockingly anti-woke things, and you force Bud Light to answer for it. | ||
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| That's way more fun. | ||
| Dana, would he fire the fighters if they started talking about Bud Light nasty? | ||
| Well, Sean Strickland already did. | ||
| He said my speech brought to you by Bud Light and then said things I can't say on YouTube. | ||
| Oh, awesome. | ||
| And Bud Light did nothing about it. | ||
| I mean, that's crazy. | ||
| You've got celebrities that fart and then issue apologies. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| And here you've got a UFC fighter, a champion, saying this stuff and... Like, Bud Light does nothing about it. | ||
| But regardless, ignore my opinion. | ||
| Understand this. | ||
| Once we get year over year into May, they're gonna compare May's sales of, let's just say 100 units. | ||
| Let's just use generic units. | ||
| Bud Light sales were at 100. | ||
| Boycott hits, they go to 70. | ||
| Every month after that, they're selling 70 units. | ||
| So the metric they're reporting in the press is minus 30%, minus 30%, minus 30%. | ||
| Once they get to next May, they're gonna say, this May we sold 70 units, and last May we sold 70 units, our sales are at 0%. | ||
| 0% growth. | ||
| And now they're gonna say, we've recovered. | ||
| We're back, baby. | ||
| 70's the new normal. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| They shut down 30% of their production capacity or something. | ||
| If some of the sales come back for any reason, they're going to say, we're now up. | ||
| Their stock will start to recover. | ||
| Their sales will start to recover. | ||
| So the issue is going to be, what move can you make right now to prevent that narrative from happening? | ||
| Because now's your chance. | ||
| You got five months. | ||
| If it went, okay, so it's down 30%, that would mean if you can knock it down another 15%, I think that would indicate a collapse of the company. | ||
| If you could knock it down to like 55%. | ||
| There needs to be another sales drop-off before May. | ||
| Yeah, and it'd have to impact people that already didn't. | ||
| It didn't impact already. | ||
| It'd have to have new people that are saying, okay, now I'm politically aware, and I'm willing to stop drinking Bud Light altogether. | ||
| Or, the narrative can be, Sean Strickland said a bunch of transphobic things, and their sales recovered. | ||
| Pick your narrative. | ||
| It's up to you. | ||
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