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tim pool
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We got this awesome exchange.
Welcome to the Members Only Show, everybody.
Riley Gaines going off with this Democrat, Ranking Member Lee.
And, uh, yo, Democrats are... I'm sorry, I'm gonna swear.
They're fucking evil, dude.
This exchange really breaks it down.
Let me play this video for you, and then we'll explain what's going on.
unidentified
In terms of mental health, studies show that participating in youth sports is associated with lower rates of anxiety and depression, lower amounts of stress, higher self-esteem and confidence.
...women must stop.
Inclusion cannot be prioritized over safety and fairness.
And Ranking Member Lee, if my testimony makes me transphobic, then I believe your opening monologue makes you a misogynist.
Thank you.
And now, thank you, Ms.
Gaines.
I now recognize Ms.
Perry for her opening statements.
Good afternoon, Chairman McClain, Ranking Member Lee, and distinguished members of the subcommittee.
My name is Sarah Partial Perry.
I am a Senior Legal Fellow at the Heritage Foundation.
As a former varsity athlete, the mother of a girls varsity athlete, and former Senior Counsel for Civil Rights at the Department of Education, I have, as the saying goes... Uh, Madam Chair, excuse me, I move to have, uh, the gentlewoman's words taken down.
The committee will suspend.
tim pool
Yo, she's calling for Riley Gaines critique to be removed for saying she's a misogynist.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
And now they're actually debating.
This is really, really funny.
Stephanie, you gotta watch.
unidentified
Madam Chair, she's engaging in personalities.
terry schilling
Ow!
What does that mean?
tim pool
Fucking cunt.
unidentified
Can I just ask how it's fair to be called transphobic?
There's a thing.
marjorie taylor greene
I would say men disguising themselves as women are engaging in personalities.
tim pool
Let's get a ruling.
terry schilling
It's such a layup issue.
I mean, it's so obvious.
phil labonte
Should be.
unidentified
Wait for it.
Thank you.
tim pool
She's being told to shut the fuck up.
unidentified
Okay, I move to withdraw the point of order.
Thank you, Leslie.
tim pool
Let me just clarify this for you guys.
She got mad that she was accused of doing what she's accusing others of doing, and then said, I want your words removed.
What about her words?
She called Riley Gaines transphobic.
Transphobic says, then you're misogynist.
And she goes, hey, fuck you.
Take those words down.
These people are fucking tyrants.
Scumbags.
terry schilling
I just want to say, I think Riley Gaines, I think she's what, 22, 23 years old?
She will be one of the youngest members of Congress ever.
She's so good, I'm going to write the first check to her campaign, I've already told her.
She's so good, she has to.
It's wasted town if she doesn't.
phil labonte
People talk about like, oh, you need to run and blah, blah, blah.
I would not wish that on any person that I've had any type of favorable opinion on.
That sounds horrible.
terry schilling
But look at what she's going through already, right?
It can't be that much worse.
She's getting death threats.
She's getting doxxed.
She's being treated worse than a member of Congress.
phil labonte
I disagree, sir.
terry schilling
You think it'd be worse?
phil labonte
Oh, I think it could very easily be worse.
ian crossland
I don't know.
phil labonte
She's not in a... Right now, all she is doing is she is articulating her opinions.
If she were in a position of power where she could actually vote on things, oh, I think it could get significantly worse.
ian crossland
Well, what about Thomas Massey?
Do you think he should not run?
You were saying you wouldn't wish that hell on any... You didn't say hell.
phil labonte
He's already there.
ian crossland
But, like, should he run again?
phil labonte
I mean, look, I like Thomas Massey.
I think that You know, the more people in Congress that agree with me, the happier I am.
But I wouldn't recommend anyone running.
ian crossland
Yeah, I don't want to be in Congress right now.
I used to be like, whatever.
But now I'm like, geez, I'd rather have this kind of pulpit at the moment.
But Thomas Massey is so impressive that I do want him to stay in Congress.
And depending on the temperament, maybe Riley could be exquisite.
phil labonte
Sure, fair enough.
My point is only saying that it is horrible to be in Congress, or I imagine it is horrible to be in Congress.
She has been the target of attacks for a long time, significant attacks, and I don't imagine why she would want to do that.
And again, I'm not saying she She, you know, I'm not saying that I would know better or whatever.
Personally, I wouldn't want to do it.
Other people, obviously, there's, you know, 500 people at least that want to be in Congress because there's people that are there now, so.
ian crossland
Have you talked to her personally?
terry schilling
Yeah, she hasn't indicated she's gonna run.
I mean, it's mostly me just saying, like, hey, you need to run, you need to run.
But, you know, look, I think, first of all, I've been involved in this women's sports fight for a very long time.
Since 2019, that was when we first started running campaign ads.
There are countless cases of women having their championships stolen from them or titles stolen from them by dudes.
She was, like, one of the first to really pick it up and run with it and take that public spotlight and fight back with it.
I don't think she's fazed by it.
I mean, I think we all got different personalities and different appetites and, you know, for what we're willing to tolerate.
I think she's proven that she's fine with it.
She's very... If you look at her, she's standing up to these other members of Congress as just a citizen.
As just a female athlete who's been wronged and had injustices committed against her, I think she's got it.
I really think she can make a difference.
I've been in politics for a long time.
I've thought about running.
I don't want to, but if there was a moment where I thought I could make a difference and actually change things, I would probably do it.
I'd have a lot of fun.
It's not that.
It's more about what you were talking about earlier, Ian.
I wouldn't want to be away from my family so much.
That's what keeps me from running right now.
But if I can make a real difference and not have to give up my family, it would be a lot of fun.
ian crossland
Giving up the family part was devastating.
When I talked to Lauren Boebert, I was like, Do you see him?
She's like, I see my family like two days a month.
She spends 28 days a month in DC.
I was like, Oh my God, is that a good or is your life better or worse since you joined?
She's like, it's worse.
terry schilling
It's way worse.
ian crossland
I was like, that's fucking horrible, man.
Like what a sacrifice.
tim pool
It's a great argument for a national divorce.
None of this political stuff is.
The fragmentation of government and the struggles to run a system this large is the real argument for national divorce.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's similar to how the Romans just shattered under the weight of their own size.
And it's just so grotesque.
It's not the size of the landmass, though.
It's definitely like the weird bureaucracy.
tim pool
The problem is, blue and red states aren't evenly split in any direction.
It'd be easy then.
ian crossland
Although maybe it is the land, like all these colonies overseas, like Iraq and Libya, like those are probably taxing the fuck out of our system, our government.
We're not supposed to have gigantic military colonies all over the place.
I mean, we got Puerto Rico.
They're close by, though.
phil labonte
I don't know that I would consider Libya and Iraq colonies.
ian crossland
They're not.
They're puppet states, basically.
phil labonte
We have a military, like we have a military base in Iraq.
I don't think we have any military bases in- Yeah, it's not a colony.
tim pool
It's something else.
Like an occupation?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Like South Korea, we occupied.
ian crossland
The occupying, we're the occupying?
But like- They have like, um...
tim pool
After a while, the, you know, it's like occupation is only so much.
When the U.S.
goes into South Korea and then says, we're gonna fight and we're gonna provide resources to fight the North because it's basically a proxy war between Soviet communist forces in the United States, then we remain there and basically guide their government.
It's not the same kind- You know, I think the issue is the assumption that any kind of occupation, any kind of dictatorship is always inferred- It's always evil.
Like, there's the idea of the philosopher king or the benevolent dictator.
A singular ruler or monarch doesn't always mean they're going to be evil.
They might actually be really good and really great to the people.
So the United States and South Korea did a lot of good, I think.
But like, yeah, we're basically in control of their government.
You know, maybe not today, but back in the day.
ian crossland
I think they call it sympathizers governments, like the Nazis when they took Finland, they set up puppet governments.
They'd pick a top Finnish general and they'd be like, you're in charge now, and he'd be a Nazi sympathizer, and then you'd have the resistance government.
tim pool
You got these military guys with Iraq and Afghanistan, and they're gonna be like, I'm gonna do what my dad did in South Korea.
And then they just fuck it up royally and just shit.
ian crossland
That term tyrant, too.
Tyrant is kind of like you're saying benevolent dictator, could be a tyrant.
The word tyrant, and one of the definitions of it is it's just an absolute ruler who governs without restriction.
tim pool
Well, I think Naib Bukele is ruling rather intensely when it came to arresting all those gang members.
But there's no question, he has greatly improved the country.
Maybe sometimes you need someone who's gonna put the boot down and just be like, dude, look man, these people are criminal, murderous, gang-raping cartels who are killing, selling drugs.
Just fuck it, we're done.
ian crossland
And you're supposed to be, in the U.S., you protect against tyranny because you have three branches of government.
People that'll step in and say, that's illegal, you can't, and you don't have that authority.
But with the corporations so involved, like, the tyranny of the majority is such a thing now.
It's like tyranny is possible through corporate mass media manipulation.
Shutting off your bank account, things like that.
tim pool
Yo, you look at El Salvador, they just made a fuck ton of money.
They were getting shit all over for switching a bunch of their reserves to Bitcoin.
And now that Bitcoin's way up, the country just got like, what, like 300 million dollars wealthier?
Or some like huge number?
Yeah.
ian crossland
Are they going to change their flag to the Bitcoin?
tim pool
Yeah, but you gotta hold.
You can't sell the Bitcoin now.
ian crossland
That's what I'm wondering.
Do they sell a piece?
terry schilling
You can't sell.
You cannot sell.
tim pool
That doesn't matter though.
That's not what the issue is because it's the people doing transactions with each other.
So the real issue is if two people trade Bitcoin between each other, The only real loss is going to be towards, you know, the mining fees or whatever that are lost in the transaction.
But for the most part, the currency is staying with the people of El Salvador.
It just means that when it comes to imports and exports, they're going to have more opportunity for importing better goods.
Yo, it's about to get awesome in El Salvador.
ian crossland
And if you want to buy a house, it's 1.2 bitcoins instead of 1 bitcoin.
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ian crossland
Now, or whatever.
tim pool
No, no, it went down.
Now it's 0.5 Bitcoin.
terry schilling
It's more valuable.
serge du preez
As Bitcoin's value increases and the cost of regular goods will go down because your value... If a house is worth 300 grand... So you want to buy into the country, you're going to have to pay in your currency.
tim pool
You're going to have to give them more dollars to get the regular... When Bitcoin goes up, the cost to move to El Salvador goes up.
serge du preez
Significantly.
tim pool
Yeah.
serge du preez
So it's like... That's crazy.
tim pool
Yeah, buy your property in El Salvador now, man.
Anyway, back to Democrats being pieces of shit.
What were we talking about?
ian crossland
The cheap-ass girl that got fucking body-checked.
tim pool
In what fucking reality is a reasonable person gonna be like...
It's all fear.
It's people that are afraid to say things that are politically incorrect.
Democrats who are like, but the mental health of the shut the fuck up.
We know you're full of shit.
There's no logic behind anything you're saying.
phil labonte
It's all fear.
It's people that are afraid to say things that are politically incorrect.
And the most blatant example of it was Kijente Brown Jackson.
You know, the Supreme Court justice refusing to say, you know, whether or not she can identify
a woman.
terry schilling
Her nomination would have been destroyed had she said an adult human female.
unidentified
They would have withdrawn her.
phil labonte
I mean, yes, they should have.
I mean, the fact that she wouldn't say that means that, in my opinion, that's disqualifying.
Your job is to judge.
And you can't judge what a woman is?
terry schilling
Please tell us what the Second Amendment is, right?
Please tell us what the Second Amendment is.
phil labonte
Yeah, exactly.
You can't judge what a woman is and you're supposed to be one of the highest judges in the whole country and you're supposed to judge other things.
I don't trust your judgment because you can't tell what a woman is.
serge du preez
Well, Raymond says she's not a biologist though.
unidentified
I want to jump off a building.
ian crossland
Tim tweeted out this 13 hours ago.
It's an article of a woman lost, basically a man won first place and another man won second place in the female cycling championship.
If it's a one-off, I can be like, maybe this is just a thing, but having two, Oh, it was last year, too.
tim pool
Next year, it'll be three.
ian crossland
Next year, it'll be three.
And then, are they gonna get it?
Like, no!
unidentified
No, no!
ian crossland
When do you realize, oh, these are just guys?
serge du preez
They won't.
Because they're not.
To them, they're not guys.
tim pool
This is the perfect moment.
Let me pull up.
Here we go.
This is the perfect moment.
You need a woman on the podium.
You know why?
If there's three dudes on the podium, you just have three dudes on the podium.
But with two dudes above the woman, you get to look that woman in the fucking eyes and say, get on your fucking knees.
That's where you belong, beneath the men.
I hope you're happy.
Look at that smile on your face.
That's right.
Enjoy it.
That's where you deserve to be.
ian crossland
Even Clown World Twitter said it's unacceptable.
And they don't comment on their own shit that much.
You know it's bad when Clown World's speaking up.
tim pool
This woman's smiling and happy that she's the first place woman!
And she's like, yay!
She likes her subservience.
This woman loves to be beneath men.
phil labonte
Like, I mean, alright, I'm not gonna say anything about that particular comment.
Like, the only people that can do anything about this are women.
Like, women have to stand up and say, no, we're done with this.
Because men, as soon as women decide, men will be like, okay, fine, we'll enforce what you want.
But until women say, we're over this, it's not gonna change.
tim pool
There are obviously women who are upset with this, but look, the top female athlete is ecstatic.
Ecstatic that she gets to stand beneath these men, okay?
If, if, if, if, maybe it's because women are boycotting this stuff, but women aren't!
You know, we look at the, the women we know who have stood up, Riley Gaines, obviously, Taylor Silverman, who, who, uh, works with the Arizona Skate Show, and, uh, there's very few women who are actually speaking out.
Now, don't get me wrong, there's a large number of women that are speaking out, but relative to the entire athletic base, most of these women are just like, yay!
And they're cheering for it!
terry schilling
Well, I think it's a human nature thing, right?
Like, Solhudson wrote that essay, Live Not By Lies, and he was saying, like, how embedded lies were in the Soviet Union, and he's like, the smallest thing we can do, which is actually huge, is to not go along with the lies, not agree with it.
tim pool
This one's better.
Andy No tweets, a trans South Yorkshire England soccer player was forced to quit a local women's league after opposing female players refused to play against her.
Against him.
Francesca Needham says she intends to sue.
Around the same time it was revealed Needham was a prostitute who advertised the extra surprise hidden under her skirt.
Anyway, think about how fucking hilarious these pieces of shit are.
This fat man wanted to compete against women.
The women were all like, I'm not going to play.
I'm out.
I'll sue all of you for not playing soccer with me.
Could you imagine going out to like a baseball field and be like, who wants to play baseball?
Not me.
I'll sue your ass.
You better play against me.
The fuck world does this person live in?
phil labonte
Insane.
terry schilling
A world where they are their own god, right?
This is narcissism.
You're trying to force everyone to go along with your worldview, your beliefs.
unidentified
Like, I'm Catholic, but I don't expect anyone to believe what we believe.
tim pool
No, no, I'm not talking about that.
I'm talking about they're saying, play soccer with me or I'll sue you.
terry schilling
Yes.
tim pool
And that's not the world.
That's not beliefs.
A guy could walk up to another guy and be like, I want to play a game of crazy eights.
And if you don't play me, I'll sue you.
ian crossland
I think it won't diverge into where they can make you watch whatever they want you to watch.
Like, we still have free agency.
We're like, I'm not gonna look at your picture that you sent me.
You can't make me.
I can block you on the internet.
I still have that.
And I think we cut it off at the past.
Like, that ain't gonna happen.
We have enough.
You don't have the right to force me to look at shit.
tim pool
Could you imagine a judge being like, there's a lawsuit and this woman is like, I just didn't want to play soccer.
Well, you know, you didn't want to play soccer because it was against a man.
So bang.
I hereby order you to play soccer with this man.
ian crossland
And I hereby order you to try to win.
Yeah.
tim pool
It's like, uh, okay, I'll play.
And then you sit down in the field and be like, Oh no, you got me again.
Like, seriously, this person's like, the women are refusing to play.
So I will sue you.
What the fuck are you going to do?
Nobody wants to play a game with you.
unidentified
Wow.
ian crossland
Did you ever have that annoying kid in the neighborhood whose mom was real overbearing?
Was like, you have to play with him.
tim pool
Yo, I figured it out.
ian crossland
I knew that kid.
tim pool
Hey, we should play a show and we should sue anyone who doesn't come.
ian crossland
That's a good idea.
They deserve it.
phil labonte
Everybody in America.
tim pool
Sue everyone.
unidentified
Everyone.
phil labonte
In America?
tim pool
No, I'm taking a global baby.
Globally.
Anybody who doesn't come to my show, I'll sue your ass.
That's a fucking stupid idea.
ian crossland
I have a right to force you to listen.
unidentified
No, I don't.
I don't.
ian crossland
I don't want that joke out there.
tim pool
We're putting out, um, our song is coming out in 10 days.
It's the greatest song ever written.
phil labonte
It is.
ian crossland
Sue yourself.
tim pool
And Phil knows.
And he's a platinum and gold recording artist.
phil labonte
It is the greatest song ever written.
tim pool
It's the greatest song ever written.
So, um, you know, anybody who chooses not to listen to it, um, you're liable.
ian crossland
You're done.
tim pool
That proves the racist.
It proves they hate mixed race people.
And so I'll sue them.
Can you imagine going to court and the judge is like, you are hereby ordered to listen to this song.
And then it's like, okay, so what are we gonna do?
I'm gonna press play on the app right now and we're gonna play it.
It's gonna be three minutes, you can go home.
serge du preez
Yeah, nowadays I can believe that.
tim pool
Make you listen to the song.
serge du preez
Yeah, I can see that.
I can see that happening.
unidentified
100%.
tim pool
Yeah, man, people are so fucking dumb.
Imagine if a person like this actually had political power, because a lot of them do.
And this is the world we're currently living in.
ian crossland
That's why the Riley Gaines in politics is like, tell me more.
You know, maybe it's a, I got to do that to myself, you know, not force other people to make that sacrifice, because it is a bit of a sacrifice.
And I don't have a big family waiting for me at home right now.
phil labonte
It's a massive sacrifice.
ian crossland
Yeah, it is.
phil labonte
It's huge.
I mean, mostly because of the scrutiny that you're gonna have to go under.
It's one thing, or it would be one thing to be like, okay, you have to do all the things that are necessary to be in Congress, right?
And so you have to take time away from your family, you have to do all the fundraising, et cetera, et cetera.
But to pile on top of that, as soon as you start running, there are people on the other side of the aisle that are going to start digging into your past.
I mean, media matters, right?
Like they exist to slime people.
And there are multiple organizations that are just like that.
As soon as you decide you're going to run, people are going to start digging into your past and spinning things that you've said that, you know, it just seems like an absolute exercise in self-hatred because you're going to be miserable the entire time.
ian crossland
It's kind of like working out.
phil labonte
No, I love working out.
ian crossland
It's when you start working out, it's that moment of self-hatred.
It hurts so bad and then it starts to feel good.
phil labonte
I mean, look, I've never run for any office, so I can't say for sure, but I've never, ever, ever dreaded working out the way that the idea of running for office makes me feel dread, so.
ian crossland
I guess some people love it.
Some people are into it, like Matt Gaetz.
He seems to love it.
But he does get, I was like, do you control your temper?
He's like, No.
I think he knows.
You go in there, you're going to be a firebrand.
He uses that word.
I don't want that part to come out of me, but the crack-the-whip-authoritarian-get-moving kind of guy.
I'm able to not have to do that in this environment, which is nice.
serge du preez
That guy's inside you?
ian crossland
Yeah.
terry schilling
It's inside all of us.
serge du preez
Young said to know the shadow, so that's a good thing.
phil labonte
I've managed to get to the point where I can see people criticizing me on the internet and not have it ruin my day.
I don't want to be getting the levels of criticism that people in Congress get.
ian crossland
I have like a thousand internet video before I gave a fuck about anything where I'd say sloppy dick so many times, wet pussy, fucking vagina, all that shit, me talking about gay sex, like all of it's on the internet.
serge du preez
Is this online still?
ian crossland
Yeah, it's all on the internet.
Anyone could source it up and feed it to me.
terry schilling
You just gotta own it though, never apologize, you just own it and you...
ian crossland
That's why I left it up in a lot of ways.
phil labonte
Definitely never apologize.
serge du preez
Yeah, I don't apologize.
phil labonte
Never, ever, ever apologize.
terry schilling
There is no forgiveness.
There is no redemption.
phil labonte
There's no forgiveness, and they don't actually want you to be sorry.
terry schilling
Yeah.
phil labonte
What they want is to be able to just attack you.
terry schilling
Humiliate you.
phil labonte
It's just a vector of attack.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's a humiliation.
So I did it to myself, because I'm like, now I feel bravo, resistant.
serge du preez
Yeah, you beat him with a punch?
Is that what you mean?
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
ian crossland
Look what I did.
Now try and dig it up on me, because I already told you I did it.
serge du preez
Yeah, that's a real, what's the word, preemptive strike?
ian crossland
Yes.
serge du preez
That's the way to do it.
Yeah.
It's one way to do it.
ian crossland
Maybe it'll work.
terry schilling
Like you got something even deeper that you don't want them to know, so you... Oh yeah, the red herring.
Yeah.
serge du preez
Yeah.
ian crossland
Yeah, the red herring.
serge du preez
Yeah.
ian crossland
I mean, pretty much.
phil labonte
Do you have a lot of things that you don't want people to know, Ian?
ian crossland
No, thank God.
Most of it is out on the table.
Literally, I would not advocate for most people telling the world everything they did that was wrong.
phil labonte
Yeah, it's a terrible idea.
unidentified
It's not a good idea.
ian crossland
There's such a thing as discretion, but also honesty and the willingness to be honest about what you've done is pretty powerful.
terry schilling
I think it's very powerful.
serge du preez
Responsibility is dead in today's world.
Yeah, I agree with you there.
terry schilling
It stands out, right?
Everyone in politics is covering their stuff up and if you own it, it sticks out.
And I think there's some, depending on what it is, right?
I mean, I think it's attractive to a lot of people.
phil labonte
Eminem had a point when he kind of was saying, look, if I rap about stuff, then you kind of, you take it away from the people that would use it as an attack vector.
And that, I think that there is a, There's some truth to that, but you also run the risk of allowing someone else to define you, which is bad.
You need to control, to at least some degree, you need to control the narrative about you and at least have a counter narrative if people are trying to, you know, if people are trying to have a narrative about you, you need to have at least a counter.
serge du preez
Well, I, uh... Do you want to take it to college next time?
Yeah, let's go to college.
Yeah.
I really want to talk to this person, Maximus Retardius.
phil labonte
What's up, Maximus Retardius?
serge du preez
Dude, that's great, man.
I'm a part of this whole retard thing.
Welcome to the air.
phil labonte
Oh yeah, we're bringing retard back, right?
unidentified
We are.
serge du preez
A lot of them are being retarded.
unidentified
Oh, absolutely.
phil labonte
Awesome, good.
unidentified
It's just a mechanical term.
ian crossland
Yeah, to slow down.
phil labonte
It is.
serge du preez
It's slow.
tim pool
To retard.
serge du preez
Anyways, what's going on?
How are you?
unidentified
So, very simple question for tonight.
What can we do to mobilize help for small business owners to get more young apprentices from high school age groups into the field during the summer?
Someone from the Discord added, for example, like future businesses, leaders of America or DECA, which are old programs that used to exist.
ian crossland
First thing I thought was integrated into something like Public Square, where a kid could actually go on and look for apprenticeships, local.
unidentified
So I actually, I posed this question to my father and he elaborated onto it.
As a business owner, it's difficult to have apprentices around slowing you down.
But I think some sort of monetary incentive to have them along, maybe a group of kids for a couple of weeks, and then that business owner can pick one to apprentice for the rest of the summer.
ian crossland
Oh, that's cool.
And that maybe his apprentice can have like three to five kids.
If the apprentice is good enough, they can get to a point where they're also able to teach because you learn a lot through teaching.
unidentified
Absolutely.
ian crossland
It's a pretty cool idea.
I'm personally, you have actually have kids.
tim pool
I think people should work with their parents.
ian crossland
Work with the parents?
What do you have to say?
unidentified
We're plumbers.
We clean drains and install septic systems, that sort of stuff.
And, you know, our main battle is trying to help people, like, not get completely swept under by EPA regulations.
And, I mean, it's hard as a small business owner when, you know, you have, let's say, five people on payroll and it's $11,000 every two weeks and, you know, a good 33 to anywhere to 40% of that is taxes.
Because, you know, the business owner has to match the payroll tax.
tim pool
Yep, 7.5.
ian crossland
Yeah.
serge du preez
Yeah, well.
Hey, anything else to add?
unidentified
Uh, just, uh, thank you guys for hopping on the Discord every now and again.
Yeah.
Uh, we, we really appreciate it.
ian crossland
Yeah, cheers, man.
Oh, yeah, there's apprenticeships where it's at.
tim pool
Thanks for the question, retard!
serge du preez
Cheers, mate.
unidentified
Hey, Ian, I'm gonna keep pushing the Paul Stamets train.
You gotta watch that TED Talk with him.
It's only about 20 minutes long.
ian crossland
I may have seen it already, but I'm super into him.
I was just looking at his Twitter page.
I wanna interview him.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
I mean, the cordyceps mushroom idea for, uh, Yeah, dude.
You too, I'd be actually hitting a lion's mane extract right now as we're talking.
Hey, mate.
without using chemicals, just incredible.
ian crossland
Yeah, dude.
unidentified
Have a good night, guys.
ian crossland
You too, I'd be actually eating lion's mane extract right now as we're talking.
serge du preez
Cheers, man.
unidentified
All right, down under T, you're live, how are you?
Hey, mate, how you going?
serge du preez
G'day.
unidentified
Ha ha.
I saw you all live at AmFest last year, it was great.
Looking forward to next year.
serge du preez
Coming up, real fast.
tim pool
You too.
unidentified
Terry Schilling, saw you guys.
I think I was sitting right behind, I don't know if you were the tech guy last year, Serge, but I was right behind you.
tim pool
Did you see Ian fall off the stage?
serge du preez
Yeah, that was a moment.
ian crossland
Yeah, if you stay till the very end.
tim pool
That was like five feet, dude!
serge du preez
That was amazing.
ian crossland
I'm good at falling, if there's anything I'm good at.
serge du preez
Bro, I thought you got really hurt.
tim pool
I was worried.
ian crossland
I could have.
tim pool
It was like five feet.
ian crossland
Yeah, yeah, that could have been really, really bad.
serge du preez
But hey, cheers.
What was your question?
unidentified
Terry, I've been asking this around the Discord chats.
What do you do, how do you deal when the person coming to you saying they want an abortion is your own child?
tim pool
Have you considered striking them?
terry schilling
I'm kidding!
Don't hit your kids!
phil labonte
No, hit them.
unidentified
Totally hit them.
The thought crossed my mind.
Have you considered striking them?
terry schilling
First of all, I think abortion exists because of shitty men.
Right, I think that the reason that women go to... He was shitty.
Huh?
unidentified
He was shitty.
terry schilling
Yeah, so, you know, and I think it's both, I think it's weak fathers on both ends, right?
So the girl has a weak father that doesn't, that she doesn't feel close enough to, to come to and protect her, but then also doesn't have a good father for the child who's encouraging her to do it.
So I think that the parental engagement, I would talk to my daughter and say, hey, we're going to get through this together.
This baby's going to change the world and we'll figure this out and look at all the options, right?
unidentified
We did that.
My mother was in her 70s and offered to look after the baby for her, so we did all of that.
terry schilling
How old is the girl?
unidentified
She was 17 at the time, just barely 18 getting engaged to this guy.
He turned out to be a big fat abuser.
Yeah, we did all of it.
In my own judgment, I believe I raised her with that idea, if you get yourself in trouble, you've got to be responsible for your actions.
As a mother, how do I step back and say, well, I can't make this decision for you?
Which I didn't.
In the end, she made it for herself.
I couldn't.
terry schilling
I just, I don't think that there can be a right to an abortion because of the nature of birth.
Right?
Like my mom went through birth for me.
And look, I have a unique situation.
My mom got pregnant with me out of wedlock.
And so my kids, like, I would just explain to them, like, if this is the standard, then you shouldn't be here.
Right?
Like we, I don't know.
I think you got to start off real.
I went on offense with my young children.
I talk to them at an age-appropriate level about all this trans stuff, about abortion, about all the LGBT stuff, and I just go on.
We now have a relationship where they come to me with some pretty gnarly stuff now.
I mean, I got a 12-year-old.
So I don't know.
It's so tough.
Ultimately, she's going to have to deal with the decision that she made.
Um, but I think the key is as a supporter, um, and be there for her when she, when and if she comes to regret it.
I think, I think, I don't know.
tim pool
Maybe you ask him, well, should I have aborted you?
terry schilling
Right.
Right.
Because we're all an inconvenience to our parents.
unidentified
I was about the same age when I got pregnant with her, but I was married in a relationship and, you know, I didn't have a bad relationship.
I had a good relationship.
So she was planned.
Her situation was different to mine.
I had to accept that it was completely different to mine.
And as you said, Terry, just support her as much as I could in the decisions that she made.
Like I didn't disown her or anything like that.
Which has happened in my family, but that's another story.
And still, in the end, all I have left of my grandchild that could have been is the ultrasound photo.
Jill jokes me when I see it.
So, you know, From Australia, we have a 15-week national cut-off limit, I believe, here.
I don't know how you feel about the heartbeat laws, but a lot of women don't check for pregnancy unless they're actively planning in those six weeks.
Because when I was planning, I was checking every day, and I think eight to ten weeks, A suitable cut-off period, and I don't know about the federal or state thing.
I think that's, you've got a republic, we've got a democratic, um, you know, the part of the, still in the king's service here.
tim pool
So, so we're, we're talking, uh, uh, you know, by the time she figures out she's pregnant, it's been several weeks already.
So she maybe only has what, like 11 or 12 weeks left?
So all you got to do is lock her in the basement for a couple months and then you're in the clearing.
unidentified
She can't get an abortion.
We don't have basements in Australia.
terry schilling
Did you talk to her?
What were her fears?
Did she give her reasoning for why she went down that road?
unidentified
She was not sure about the relationship as it was standing.
There was a lot of things she didn't divulge to me because I think she was embarrassed and ashamed.
She would kill me right now if she knew I was talking about her.
tim pool
I think it's too bad.
I think it should be publicly known.
You want to solve the abortion problem?
All abortions are allowed at any point, and we put your name on the wall outside every time you do it.
terry schilling
We limit it to three abortions per woman.
tim pool
No, no, no.
terry schilling
No limits?
tim pool
The more abortions you get, your name gets bigger.
terry schilling
I do think, so I get annoyed with the pro-life movement because there's a whole sect of the pro-life movement that's like, we can end abortion if we just make it easier to do adoptions and we pay for the births.
That's not true.
And it's because adoption is so difficult.
It's way more difficult than the abortion.
No one has to know that you got an abortion.
No one has to know you were even pregnant.
tim pool
Guy's name too.
terry schilling
Yeah, the guy's name has to be with the two.
Yeah.
But it's so tough.
tim pool
And they take a picture of you and then it's like a picture of you with your name outside like on a wall.
They make you take a picture of the guy on the wall.
unidentified
Like if I wanted a poster for Gen 6.
tim pool
Right.
You know, it's like I went to Planned Parenthood and all I got was a lousy abortion and they put your name on the wall.
But in all seriousness, I think that would stop abortions.
Because the idea you're like, you know, oh, you know, my child would be so angry if she knew I was talking about it.
Yeah, bring back shame.
ian crossland
It might stop some, but a lot of people don't think there's anything wrong with it.
tim pool
That's fine.
That's fine.
But I think like 90% of women would be like, oh, I can't let anybody know I'm doing this because they know it's wrong.
That is the crazy thing.
unidentified
I agree with that 100% Tim, 100% I agree with that.
serge du preez
It'll shift culture regardless.
People will start doing it.
ian crossland
Shaming people for their medical actions?
tim pool
Medical actions?
serge du preez
I don't know if it's medical actions.
ian crossland
Get everybody that went to a doctor, put their face on it.
tim pool
Why be shamed if it's only a medical action?
Why be shamed?
ian crossland
Because it's not your business.
unidentified
It's no one's business but their own at what they do with their medicine.
tim pool
There is zero concern to me if the hospital I went to for my kidney stone said Timothy Poole got treatment for a kidney stone.
serge du preez
Sorry, what did you say there?
unidentified
Would you feel ashamed, I said, would you feel ashamed to tell people that you went and had a nose job or a boob job or?
tim pool
A lot of people would.
unidentified
Because it's not something that can be seen.
ian crossland
Yeah, or they got blood tests for STDs, like you want the whole world to know that you went on Thursday.
Yeah, that's right.
unidentified
I mean, I get that.
ian crossland
I don't, I mean.
unidentified
What do you mean?
tim pool
You're supposed to!
You're supposed to tell people that you got an STD test!
Yes you are!
unidentified
If it's positive, for sure, yeah.
tim pool
No, even if it's negative!
You get an STD test, you tell your partner, don't worry, I got tested, we're all good, I'm clean.
ian crossland
I'm talking about public disclosure.
I'm not talking about telling your partner anything.
That's not what this is about.
terry schilling
I think the main point, like, I don't think, there's never been fewer reasons to need abortion today.
It's never been easier to prevent pregnancy.
We all, like, in America, we pay for birth control.
It's now covered in every single insurance plan.
You actually can't get out of it, even if you're, well, those little sisters of the poor ended up getting out of covering the abortifacients.
It's never been easier to prevent pregnancy.
So, like, why?
I don't know.
It's so unjustifiable.
It really is a travesty.
unidentified
Can I just say she went on to provide me with two beautiful grandsons.
serge du preez
Fantastic.
unidentified
Congratulations.
But I do have another daughter in that age bracket that's, like, just got a boyfriend, steady boyfriend, and I have to, like, stress all about it all over again.
serge du preez
Well, cheers.
terry schilling
I think just having the conversation, though, and being candid.
You know, just keeping everything out there.
tim pool
I've got a solution for everybody.
But we'll wrap up here.
I'll say thank you for your question and for calling in.
unidentified
Just want to throw it out there to you, Ian.
If you are interested in coming on my show, Bunker Studios and TV, to tell Australians all about graphene, because we need new ideas, stat.
ian crossland
Yeah, send me a message on Twitter.
Thank you.
serge du preez
Cheers.
unidentified
Done and done.
tim pool
Right on.
Thanks for coming in.
unidentified
Have a great day, guys.
tim pool
Cheers.
serge du preez
Thank you.
unidentified
Likewise.
tim pool
And very quickly, I just want to play this clip for you guys.
unidentified
Our son has been blessed with a great gift, and I'm gonna do everything I can to nurture that talent and help him succeed.
And then I'm gonna use him to live out all my frustrated hopes and dreams.
Because that's good parenting.
Right, Bing Crosby?
That's right, Peter.
And if your kids give you any lip, you can beat them with a sack of sweet Valencia oranges.
They won't leave a bruise, and they'll let them know who's boss.
There's no doubt about it.
tim pool
What?
unidentified
That doesn't sound right.
Are you giving me lip, boy?
I'll take this belt off and put the smackdown on you.
Is that what you want?
Ow!
Hey!
Ow!
Ow!
Hey!
Ow!
Back it off!
tim pool
Hey!
unidentified
Get away from me, you dead pruner!
tim pool
So I just want to point out the, um, the beating with a sack of sweet Valencia oranges.
It doesn't leave a bruise.
Is that true?
terry schilling
I don't know.
tim pool
I learned that from Family Guy a couple decades ago, apparently.
ian crossland
Sounds like it was probably true.
tim pool
You can beat a child with oranges.
terry schilling
A couple decades ago.
It came out a couple decades ago.
tim pool
That's right!
Alright, we'll grab the next caller.
serge du preez
Who's up?
Alright, let's see here.
The crooner is accurate.
It's hilarious.
Hey, uh, Rogue, Rogues350, you are live.
How are you today?
unidentified
Hey, thanks guys.
Thanks for taking my call.
serge du preez
Cheers.
unidentified
First thing I gotta say is, uh, it can't be the greatest song ever because you're working with a very failed musician.
So, sorry about that.
tim pool
Well, I, there's, you know, it is the greatest song ever and I just can't give away too much of the context, but, um, you know, that's all I can say.
unidentified
I love you, Phil.
Cheers.
You're, you're badass.
But my question, I was going to direct it to Terry, but you all kind of commented on it.
It was kind of a focal point for the show, but Terry, you said miserable people think the world sucks.
And honestly, it does for a lot of people.
I fight every day in one of the hardest jobs on the planet.
How do I keep my mind and intestinal fortitude up?
terry schilling
Gratitude.
unidentified
Many people are losing both.
How would you recommend the average person keep their wits about them?
terry schilling
Look, I'll just open up, right?
And I've started to tell people this and been more open to it after my dad passed away, and he gave me permission to.
But I grew up, I was never abused or beaten or anything, but my dad was a recovering crack addict.
And things weren't always so great.
I mean, there was a point where my parents were going to get divorced, and I'm the eldest in my family, and you know, the best thing about my dad was, I mean, life was really tough, but the best thing about it, what I'm so grateful for, is that he got clean.
And he really sacrificed and died for himself.
So like, I didn't say, what I said was miserable people vote for communism.
No happy people vote for communism.
And what I think America and humanity really needs most is gratitude for the things that God has given us.
Life can be terrible, but if you focus only on the terrible things in your life and none of the good things, all of us have some good things in our lives.
I mean, just even having the gift of life to be able to work And, you know, have two functioning arms and two functioning legs.
That's something to be grateful for, right?
And it sounds like you work your ass off every day.
And do you have kids?
Do you have a wife?
I mean, there's always things to focus on that you can be grateful for and show gratitude towards.
And I think if we start thinking about the things that we should be grateful for and appreciate that more, and less time focused on what's terrible in the world.
Look, you got all this stuff happening in the Middle East.
150 years ago, 200 years ago, you wouldn't have known about it.
serge du preez
Yeah, true.
terry schilling
Right?
And so it's easy to get caught up.
I think the media wants to have all these crazy stories and just inundate you and overwhelm all of us with all this negative information.
And they do that for clicks, they do it for views, and I think we need to start ignoring it.
I don't really watch the news anymore.
I read Drudge every now and then, I go on Twitter.
I kind of just focus on my life and doing my job and doing what I can.
So I think if you focus on the things you should be grateful for and showing gratitude towards that, I think that's a huge first step.
But also, I think just focusing on what you can actually change, right?
And that was one thing that I learned from my dad being in the program was the serenity prayer.
You know, God grant me the serenity to accept things I cannot change, the power to change the things I can and the wisdom to know the difference.
I think that's a big deal.
That prayer gets crack addicts, helps get them clean.
My dad had to constantly distract himself.
He opened up, by the time he died, he had four pizza restaurants.
He had built two homes.
He had run and won a term in Congress.
So, like, I think it's just about keeping busy, focusing on the things that you can actually change, ignoring the things that you can't, and being grateful for the things that are good in your life.
We all have something.
It might not be a million things, it might not even be a dozen things, but there's something we can be grateful for, and I think this country especially is really lacking gratitude.
We're always focused on everything we don't have, and nothing of what we actually do that we should be treasuring and valuing.
unidentified
People always want something big.
terry schilling
Yeah.
unidentified
They need to focus on the small things.
terry schilling
I think that's right.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Read Meditations by Marcus Aurelius.
serge du preez
I agree.
I'm just finishing up my, I started a little while ago.
unidentified
I'm learning Latin, so I definitely need to look it up.
serge du preez
Even better yet.
Anyways.
unidentified
Well, I'll, uh, let you guys get to the next caller.
serge du preez
Thank you very much, sir.
unidentified
But in order to force myself to play a little bit more, I'm going to say I'm starting a YouTube page called Rogue America.
I'm going to play some bass, some drums, and some guitar.
Cool.
serge du preez
Hell yeah, brother.
unidentified
It'll be about five days and it'll be up.
phil labonte
Play guitar.
unidentified
Fuck yes.
tim pool
Thanks for calling in.
phil labonte
It's the only real instrument you're talking about.
serge du preez
I knew that was coming.
All right, cheers, brother.
Best of luck.
Have a great night.
Likewise.
phil labonte
Drums aren't music.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
serge du preez
We are gonna go down a Annoying path here if we if we start with this so I will invite sublime sublime in slime Chat, how are you?
Pretty good yourself good.
unidentified
Oh, yeah Great.
So, Tim, I've been watching your stuff since your Sweden No-Go Zone vids were being posted to R to the Donald, where I used to mod.
tim pool
Oh, wow.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was a top mod there.
I just have a quick question for the panel, really.
As someone who used to travel to quite often and live in Russia, I never saw the same threat that everybody else was telling us here in the States that, you know, Russia was bad.
They basically wanted to become a part of Europe.
They wanted to be integrated with European economy, all that stuff.
Do you think that we really pushed Putin to take the actions he did with Ukraine because we were arming them to the teeth prior?
Or is it just Putin wanting to expand his sphere of influence?
tim pool
It's, it's competing interests.
The West is expanding into, uh, onto the Russian border repeatedly and continually, and it put them at risk because they have a naval base in Crimea, and if, uh, Ukraine joins NATO and the EU, they lose access to their naval base.
It destroys a major military outpost for them.
unidentified
I wonder who... Do you think there's some, uh, I was just gonna say, do you think that there's, um, kind of a resource aspect to it?
Because Russia's Huge with resources.
There's so much resources there that's untapped.
phil labonte
My personal opinion is it's not about resources.
unidentified
It's about access to the warm water port.
ian crossland
Yeah, being able to sell their resources basically gives a Mediterranean access in the year round.
I wonder who these oligarchs were that split up the Soviet Union and gave all that land to the Ukraine and not to Russia.
And I imagine they're just like, we just don't want Russia to be too super powerful.
We don't want another Soviet Union.
So we'll give Sevastopol and all of Crimea and all this crap to the Ukrainians.
But who were they?
I want to hear that conversation.
Who decided that?
Because that's the reason that they went.
It's similar to what happened with Germany after World War I. They took a bunch of Germany away and gave it to Poland.
And then the Germans were like, it's fucking our land.
We're going to invade.
But they took out a shipping lane, like Russia's chief shipping lane in the South.
It was crazy.
Like if they stripped West Coast access from the United States and gave that long strip down the West Coast to Canada, no one would have stood for it.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
And that's it.
unidentified
Makes sense.
ian crossland
Yeah, they get that land back.
I think that's the end.
They cease hostilities.
I saw a tweet that said that they're brokering another peace deal right now that actually put Ukraine in NATO, but I couldn't verify that the thing was real.
unidentified
Yeah, I've heard that too.
But I heard that they also want to get, Rush wants to get Odessa and Kharkiv also.
ian crossland
The tweet that I saw.
unidentified
Finish it up.
ian crossland
Okay.
The tweet that I saw said they were going to give Odessa back to the Ukrainians and give them access to the Black Sea, too.
But who knows?
It could have been fake.
serge du preez
Yeah, who knows?
No more.
unidentified
Cool.
Well, that was it.
Thanks, guys.
serge du preez
Appreciate it.
ian crossland
Thanks, man.
tim pool
Thanks for calling in.
serge du preez
Best of.
Cheers.
Talk to you soon.
All right.
Nazraya, I remember your name.
How are you today, brother?
It could be either of you, actually.
That's right.
unidentified
Uh, yeah.
Yeah.
It's the, it's the Merrill.
serge du preez
Hey, how's it going?
unidentified
Okay.
I'm really nervous.
Um, I'm going to screw the whole vibe up.
I'm sorry.
Um, my question is, uh, I'm a detransitioner.
Um, so I don't really know if it's long winded or short winded.
I'll give it short and maybe we can discuss this further.
Uh, basically I, I need help, uh, from the panel.
I'm trying to figure out how to reclaim my manhood.
And I don't mean, like, literally, like, physically.
I mean, like, I don't know how to be a man in a relationship.
And Tim has been, and Phil, and Andy, and all of you have been inspirational in, you know, me detransitioning in the first place during COVID.
I really started watching you a lot.
And I woke up to the lies that I was being told.
So, yeah, I could leave it there or go further.
tim pool
I think we are all pretty manly.
ian crossland
Well, I'm single, so my advice probably isn't.
But Terry has six, seven kids.
tim pool
Well, before Terry jumps in as the expert, let me just say, here's what you do.
You sleep 20 hours, you wake up, your woman brings you food, you eat it, you grumble over, you go back to sleep.
ian crossland
You find a video game you really like.
tim pool
That's what lions do, and that's how it's supposed to be.
ian crossland
That's how you can skate in a relationship.
tim pool
Humans have ruined everything.
The women should be doing all the work, having all the babies, bringing the men to food, and the men sleep all day.
ian crossland
What is the secret, Terry?
I don't know.
phil labonte
Terry's like, don't pull out.
unidentified
No, no, you need to have, you know, six kids over here.
terry schilling
My pullout game is weak.
It's for most Catholics.
But no, look, I think there are a lot of good role models, right?
And I don't think that there's one right or wrong way to be a man.
Um, I think that it's, it's a pick of a litter, right?
I think there's, um, you know, there are men that have been great leaders across the spectrum in various industries.
I don't know what your line of work is, um, or what you aspire to work in, but I would look to, you know, leaders that have broken ground.
Right?
So I, I think reading, About the lives of, uh, you know, historical, great historical figures.
Uh, I think Lincoln's a great person to read about.
Ulysses S. Grant.
I think that, uh, Reagan, Marcus Aurelius, Napoleon's fascinating.
I don't, I don't know what I think about that movie that just came out.
It was a little weird seeing like seven sex scenes with Napoleon.
serge du preez
Pretty mid-range.
And like that lady wasn't even like his main love interest in life, but he was just going at it.
terry schilling
There was no concern.
Yeah, sorry, go ahead.
unidentified
Uh, so maybe you guys don't understand, well, obviously don't understand, uh, because you've never been, you know, trans and then not trans.
What I'm saying is like, I was in a relationship with my wife for six years and for half of that relationship, I was a woman and I was like, I'm just going to use the word, I was the bitch.
Right.
And now I'm trying to not reclaim, like she wants me to, and I want to, uh, you know, Have traditional roles after reading the Bible and coming to Christ.
That's the way we wanted to be.
And it's just been kind of confusing, and I don't really have anyone to ask because my dad isn't exactly the most...
serge du preez
Have you ever gone camping?
My dad was a good dad.
I went camping.
I did all the things.
unidentified
I mean, like, I've been, no, I mean, I mean, like, my dad was a good dad.
I went camping, I did all the things.
Okay.
But that's not what I mean.
I mean, he's just not the like, what's popular.
serge du preez
In a relationship in particular and specific?
Was that what you mean by like, and like reclaiming your manhood?
I'm just trying to, I'm just trying to have as many interpretations here to help the panel.
tim pool
I just want to say, I think, I don't want to necessarily give advice.
You should talk to a doctor before doing anything related to diet.
But what I would do is I would increase my intake of fats substantially and meats.
I'd cut out sugars.
unidentified
I've been doing a lot of what you said with, like I drank the cream in my coffee.
Like, the heavy cream.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
like half a cup of cream every day.
It's a, it, it boosts your testosterone like crazy.
You said a high fat, high protein steak, major testosterone go through the roof.
And also I'm just going to say this for all the dudes out there.
It's advice you got to understand.
If you don't crank it for a week, your testosterone jumps like tenfold.
That's it.
Yeah.
Google it.
Um, yeah, I'll pull it up.
I'll pull it up.
serge du preez
Look for that, like testosterone or testosterone or promoting foods, testosterone, promoting foods rather.
phil labonte
So you were, you were, you said, uh, you're married?
serge du preez
Yes.
Yes.
phil labonte
And you transitioned while you were married?
unidentified
Well, we were in our relationship, yeah.
I was already trans when she met me, so that's why this is so confusing.
She was attracted to that, and I was attracted to her like that, and now we're not that, but we're still in love, and we're still attracted to each other.
We're just trying to figure out where our roles are, and what that really looks like.
phil labonte
Where do you feel natural?
unidentified
Uh, where do I feel naturally?
phil labonte
Yeah.
Like when, like when you guys interact, right?
Like, cause it, for, for my, for me, I feel like the best advice to give you is to not try to be something you're not.
And so I don't know how to tell you how to be what you're trying to tell me you want to be in the relationship because I feel like you should be you.
serge du preez
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
And if you're trying to be something else, you're only going to come in, you're only going to run into other problems.
ian crossland
But you can mold yourself for sure.
phil labonte
I have this similar... I don't, but before you talk about molding someone, I mean, he's detransitioning.
Like, I think that, that you, you shouldn't try to mold yourself into anything.
I should, I think you should try to find, yeah, find out who you are and, and make sure you're comfortable with you.
And, and I don't think that you should, pressure your your partner and I don't think she should pressure you and it should be something that you guys especially seeing as you guys had you know you started your relationship with you as a as a trans woman
I would imagine that this process of detransitioning or learning how to live as a man is something that your partner's interested in doing with you.
So I think that you...
I would recommend taking it slowly and not trying to force anything and just do what
feels comfortable.
ian crossland
When I said mold yourself, all I was thinking was working out.
And that's the only example of molding yourself I can think of.
Because I got kind of...
unidentified
Well, I do agree with you to an extent, too, Ian, though, that molding is the correct term.
I really appreciate you, Phil.
Like, it's crazy that, like I just said, Phil Levanti, like, tell me, tell me advice about anything.
And Tim Pool, and Ian, like, thank you.
And I do want to say, like, like my place, I feel like It's a little hard to get there, because, like, I know where my place is.
And I've had this, like, drive ever since getting off of the hormones that's been really weird.
Like, I feel like a teenage boy again.
And I have this crazy amount of energy that I've been, uh... I've told you about The Beanie Collective before, but... Yeah, you have.
We're, like, really going super crazy.
I've uploaded a new video, not of our music.
It's not, like, The Beanie Collective has morphed, The Monster has unleashed, and now I'm just cross-networking everybody in the Discord.
And it has been making me feel like finding my place, because I don't really have a job.
Well, I do, but it's technically an event company, and we get them as we can.
serge du preez
Hey, I've been there, man.
phil labonte
Cool, man.
tim pool
Yeah, purpose.
Getting good stuff, just laying one brick into the wall every single day, you know?
ian crossland
Yeah, being a dude, it's weird, because a lot of guys are muscular with big beards and shit, like Phil across from me, and they want to chop wood, they want to go shoot a varmint, and then I'm like, I just want to sing a song and cry about my emotions.
But I'm still a man, but not every woman sees that.
Some women want the dirty, big, strong guy.
tim pool
All women do.
ian crossland
Some of them, and I noticed that working out, is that all the women seem to be more attracted to me as it was happening.
phil labonte
Go ahead.
unidentified
They call me Christian Ian in the chat, so I definitely vibe with it.
ian crossland
It's a fucking win.
phil labonte
Listen, don't worry.
Don't worry.
Like go.
I'm fully like I'm totally back exercise.
I go to the gym a lot.
Like, I mean, you know, there's there's no no I'm posting about it on Twix all the time.
I think you should go to the gym, but but don't get wrapped up in the in the superficial parts of being a guy.
Right.
Like, yeah.
Like just going to the gym is about having a healthier body and having a better mindset.
It's not about going to the gym so that way you are a man.
serge du preez
Yeah, it's about discipline.
phil labonte
Yeah, going to the gym doesn't make you a man.
Having a healthy body, being responsible for yourself, taking care of your body, which is the very first step in taking care of your life, those are the things you need to do to be a man.
And the gym is cool, and yeah, it's cool that you're doing dude stuff, but the point of going isn't Yeah, I do feel you.
And I don't actually go to the gym.
I can't afford a gym.
I think there might be a YMCA or something.
But yeah, I feel like the eating thing is something I can at least control somewhat.
unidentified
To an extent, you know, it's only so much.
And I don't actually go to the gym. I can't afford a gym.
Well, exercise might be a YMCA or something. But, uh, yeah, I feel like the eating thing is something I can at least
control somewhere.
Um, to an extent, you know, it's only so much. Uh, but I, I do,
I do think that like, it's not only like my hormones are out of whack.
It's like my entire personality's changed and then shit.
Like, it's weird.
And it's just good to get, you know, this from you guys.
I really do appreciate it.
tim pool
Right on, man.
Thanks for calling in.
ian crossland
Yeah, I'd love to hear more about it in the future, too.
Like, keep us in your journey, like, what it's like learning the new hormones.
unidentified
Can I just, real quick, shout out, on Saturdays in the Discord, we have an event now.
It's a video.
a video call and we are doing like a cross-networking thing too so like everybody comes on in and then we uh
Have people come up and tell us what they're doing and we have a like a list of people in the discord
So if anybody ever wants to like do anything music or if you have a small business that needs a commercial or if you
have You know go there and uh, we'll help cross network you so
we can take the culture back right on Thanks for calling in buddy. Thanks, man. Best luck, man
tim pool
Right on All right.
All right.
Well, thanks for hanging out, Terry.
It's been a blast.
terry schilling
It's been so much fun.
I really do look forward to coming on the show every time.
tim pool
Appreciate it.
And for everybody who's a member, thank you all so much.
We got to jump because we just got a screener for the new song.
We're going to play it, but it's not coming out just yet.
So only only us in the room are going to watch it.
But in 10 days, you'll see it.
Thanks for hanging out.
And we'll see you all next time.
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