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Timcast IRL - US Plans TROOPS IN GAZA, Biden Holds Secret Talks Of US OCCUPYING Gaza w/JR Majewski
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the American people.
troops being deployed into Gaza to occupy the Gaza Strip.
And we also have reporting, now this I think we all knew, special forces, U.S.
special forces are on the ground in Israel with speculation that they're actively working in Gaza.
The special forces are there reportedly to help identify hostages, U.S.
hostages, But considering that they are engaged in a ground operation in Gaza, the speculation is that the U.S.
forces are in Gaza, too.
So, hey, maybe it all just goes belly up and this becomes another big mess where the United States ends up losing another war.
Because, uh, you know, we backed Ukraine and they lost, and Afghanistan and Iraq are disasters, and oh boy, we can go back in time, but here we are.
We got more news!
This one's interesting.
New polls are coming out, and they're all starting to include RFK Jr.
So now it's a three-way race with Biden, Trump, and RFK Jr., and guess what?
Guess who loses in almost every one of these polls?
Well, Kennedy, obviously.
No disrespect!
Joe Biden. Now, there was one poll that shows that Quinnipiac shows that Trump loses if Kennedy runs,
but all the other polls, they're showing that if Kennedy is on the ballot, Donald Trump beats Joe
Biden. And the scary thing is it's like thirty five to thirty seven. So people are not gonna
be too happy about those numbers.
We'll get into that.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and a lot more is J.R.
Majewski.
jr majewski
Hey Tim, thanks for having me, man.
tim pool
Who are you?
What do you do?
jr majewski
So I'm a Republican candidate for the 9th District of Ohio for Congress, and I was the 2022 nominee.
And unfortunately, because of some Democratic smears, I ended up losing my election, but I'm back into the race this cycle.
tim pool
You're also a big nuclear energy guy.
jr majewski
Yeah, former nuclear energy guy.
Specialized in spent nuclear fuel.
unidentified
Wow!
tim pool
Alright, we'll definitely talk about that.
Hannah Clare is here.
hannah claire brimelow
Hey, I'm Hannah Clare Brimlow.
I'm a writer for TimCast.com.
It's the best.
You should click on the read tab on the website and see all the work from me and other journalists.
And of course, making his victorious debut, Ian.
tim pool
Debut?
hannah claire brimelow
I'm back!
I don't know, return.
tim pool
What's up?
ian crossland
Hello, everyone.
I'm back from Miami.
I had an incredible, relaxing, rejuvenating spirit quest.
It was amazing.
And I want to give a shout-out to some people that I met along the way.
Adam Sosnick from the Valuetainment Network.
Thanks for having me on, Adam, on Soscast.
That was a good time.
Also, Lauren Day Laguna, Pixie, Amy Dangerfield from the up-and-coming Pink Pill Podcast.
You're going to want to check it out on YouTube.
Destiny had me on his show.
Lichen, Destiny's chef, the man.
Thanks for making dinner for us.
And, of course, Luke Rutkowski, who hosted me.
With We Are Change and Clint Russell, we did some shows.
If you haven't seen them yet, go to Rumble and check out Luke Rudkowski, We Are Change.
It was so much fun, Luke.
Thank you.
Good to be back, Tim.
Thanks, man.
We got Serge to my right.
serge du preez
Yes, I'm here.
Glad to have you back, Ian.
And ready to start the show when you are, Tim.
tim pool
Here we go, man.
Here's the story from the Daily Mail.
Biden administration holds secret talks on stationing American troops in Gaza after Hamas is defeated.
ian crossland
But U.S.
tim pool
officials fear deepening political peril after Israel shelled a refugee camp.
Oh boy, there's so much here.
So it's not a refugee camp.
Here we go again.
But we'll get into this because there are civilian deaths.
It's just, man, it's just lies, lies, lies.
But here's the worrying part of the story.
First, Bloomberg, I love their warmongering headline.
unidentified
U.S.
tim pool
and Israel weigh peacekeepers for the Gaza Strip.
What does that mean?
Let's just say it like it is, Bloomberg.
The U.S.
wants U.S.
soldiers in Gaza.
Now, here's what's important to understand.
The way they're framing it is after Hamas.
After?
Well, Times of Israel, citing the New York Times, says that U.S.
Special Forces are already deployed into Israel on the ground to assist with recovering hostages.
But come on, what does that mean?
This means Special Forces are going to be working on... I mean, I don't see any other argument that could be made.
I suppose you could argue that U.S.
Special Forces are just in a room somewhere in Tel Aviv, you know, giving intel and giving advice.
I don't think we use special forces for that, but maybe the most likely thing is they are engaged in recovery, which we
on this show warned about several a month ago that or not even a month ago, a few weeks ago, that if U.S.
citizens are taken captive, are kidnapped, then the U.S.
typically sends boots on the ground to bring them back.
And so now that we're seeing this, let me put it all together for you.
What seems more likely?
unidentified
U.S.
tim pool
Special Forces are already in Gaza, engaged in operations which will result in the removal of Hamas, by which then the U.S.
wants to send more U.S.
troops into Gaza.
Well, how are you guys doing?
ian crossland
I'm thinking about Vietnam, because I saw that word peacekeeper, and I remember they started off the Vietnam surge of troops by calling them advisors.
So there wasn't really a war, wasn't even really considered a military expedition in the 50s.
I think it was the late 50s when they started sending their advisors over there.
And, you know, it just scaled from there.
So it kind of tastes like that.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't like it.
ian crossland
Oh, and I also think that if there's one, if they get all the hostages out, but then there's one left, they'll use that as a reason to send 10,000 guys in, because they just want to conquer the place.
tim pool
They'll just say, oh, there's still 10 Americans whose identities are being remained secret, private, because of the risk to their family, and gotta send in the troops!
I mean, that's it.
I mean, the U.S.
is, here's my fear.
I hope None of this happens, but it seems like they're doing these things so that they slowly introduce you into the idea that there will be troops in Gaza.
Because, uh, does anybody remember the exact date when the U.S.
announced that they were declaring war on Syria and sending troops into Syria?
Yeah, most people don't.
And I was surprised.
At one point, I remember hearing about U.S.
troops in Syria.
I was like, wait, what?
When did we go into Syria?
Like, we're in Syria.
At first, it was like, there are no troops in Syria.
And then like, oh, we actually have bases there now.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, they started as we're just sending them to help with something.
It's sort of almost a humanitarian effort that we sent our military to take care of.
And then it just escalates to being like, well, we need to always have a presence there because without without us, what would they do?
I mean, this is the thing that bothers me the most about the way the American government leans on its military, which is to say we can send troops to all kinds of places across the world, but we do not send them to the border, which protects our own citizens.
jr majewski
Right.
We gotta stop being everything to everybody or stop trying to be everything to everybody.
tim pool
We can be everything to everybody here in the U.S.
Exactly.
That's right.
Let's do that.
And you know, that's why I'm saying I see all these like, there's like Gen Z videos on TikTok where they're like, we should have free education and free health care and we're spending money.
Or the funny thing is you get this young woman and she's a communist and she's like, Society, like, the current generation is suffering, the economy is terrible, we're living paycheck to paycheck, when we could be having free healthcare and free college, and I'm like, here we go, and then she goes, but instead we're spending it all on the military-industrial complex, and I'm like, deal.
Alright, I'll take it.
If we stop funding blowing up kids in foreign countries, and then we apply whatever money is left from that into, like, giving medical care to people, like, deal left!
You can have that if we all agree to stop doing this.
Maybe that's their game, though?
The establishment is like, let's stress the American people by blowing up kids, as many kids as possible around the world, till they beg us.
We will give you authoritarian control if you stop blowing it.
ian crossland
That is actually a technocratic tactic.
They want to give us war weariness until we'll say please give us anything but war, including putting people into pods and medicating them.
tim pool
Making them eat the bugs.
hannah claire brimelow
I think they'll just have a taste for it at that point.
They'll be like, but war is so fun and we make so much money off of it.
We'll continue on.
jr majewski
Yeah, it's back to the FDR, right?
The FDR theory, right?
Where he goaded us into World War II by meddling with Japan because he needed it to satisfy his promises of the New Deal.
ian crossland
What was he doing with Japan?
jr majewski
Well, he put tariffs and meddled with their trade on steel.
tim pool
There was a lot too.
It was, uh, the US is supplying weapons and resources to enemies of Japan and to the Allied forces.
ian crossland
Into China?
tim pool
Yeah, and so, I mean, right, over a long enough period of time, if, like, let's say Hannah-Claire and Ian are throwing snowballs at each other, and then I'm making snowballs and handing them to Ian, Hannah-Claire's gonna be like, dude, you're both fighting me.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I'll be really mad about it.
unidentified
No, no.
hannah claire brimelow
I will be honest.
tim pool
All I do is make snowballs.
ian crossland
Yeah, he's just a guy, I know.
jr majewski
And meanwhile, like, last night, there was a viral clip of a veteran that was crying, sitting in his car, talking about the fact that, you know, the VA was... VA health benefits, right?
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
jr majewski
I mean, we have veterans here that, you know, there's an increasing rise on veteran suicides and their mental health and the care that they receive from the VA.
It's just terrible.
tim pool
I saw that video and I'm like, how do we help this guy?
hannah claire brimelow
Right?
tim pool
How do we help?
And then I'm just like, the problem is, how do you help all of them?
jr majewski
Right.
tim pool
You know, I'll tell you, I despise the political elites, the political class so much.
And a lot of these very wealthy political dynasty families, and I'm not just talking about like the Clintons or whatever.
Oh, there's way more than that.
People need to understand.
We know the Kennedys, we know the Bushes, we know the Clintons.
But there are bureaucrat families.
There are mid-level manager type families that live in these wealthy areas, and their families are all getting in government, and they hate you.
They use your children as cannon fodder, and then, what do you get?
Your sons and daughters coming back to this country, and they're told to go F themselves, left to cry in their cars because they can't get any medical care.
And then, they take more of your money and your labor, and they go blow up kids with it.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, I've never seen a president campaign on, I will fix the VA.
The VA historically has all kinds of administrative problems, but it's just sort of like, oh, I love the troops, see you guys when I see ya, even though we offer this healthcare system that is always fundamentally broken, right?
I've never heard of a veteran who doesn't eventually have an issue along the way.
saying that there aren't VA doctors, VA systems that are trying their best, it's just incredibly
difficult. I don't understand why we don't hear more about fixing our own domestic support systems
rather than constantly saying, well, we've got to have this presence on the geopolitical stage.
tim pool
Like, why? I'd rather be present in our own nation. I get when Ben Shapiro comes out and he says,
here is my argument for war, like not for war, but like why war is happening.
He's like, Israel didn't start it.
I don't know if he says we, but Israel didn't start it.
Hamas starts it, this current round.
I know there's generational conflict here, but I get it.
Ben Shapiro says, Israel is justified in doing these things for these reasons.
And I'm like, oh, that's really interesting.
Why is the U.S.
involved in this?
Why?
Who in this country I mean, Ben Shapiro obviously thinks the U.S.
needs to be involved to prevent destabilization of the region, eventually World War III.
I get his arguments.
I would argue the inverse.
I don't know which one is more likely to happen, but the U.S.
sending troops into Gaza sounds like you're going to get, I don't know, Houthi rebels in Yemen and Iranian-backed militias directly attacking Israeli-like territory.
I mean, the U.S.
going in Maybe the hope is that it will be such a massive shock to the rest of these countries, it will stop them from doing anything.
If the U.S.
is in Israel, they're gonna be like, we can't go to war with the U.S.
ian crossland
Yeah, I get that feeling of like, wow, if they finally take over, then it's gonna be done, we don't have to worry about it anymore.
That's just not the way it works, man.
Blowback is generational.
You kill all those people, you'll see their families and their friends for tens of hundreds of... What is the U.S.
tim pool
gonna do?
Occupy Gaza for 20 years?
ian crossland
I mean, I joked almost when I said, make it the 51st state.
Now I'm seeing things like they want to colonize.
tim pool
It's funny because the way you phrase making Gaza the 51st state, everyone's just like, the process there is impossible.
And then it was funny because I was like, what, Ian, are we going to send troops into Gaza and spark World War III?
And now Biden's like, we should send troops into Gaza.
unidentified
And I'm like, Not to mention the acute impact, right?
jr majewski
You're stretching America's military thin.
And as we're seeing right now, there's probably sleeper cells all over the country.
And how are we going to defend ourselves?
I mean, it's, you know, the way I say it is like, you know, you can't go to your neighbor's house and chastise them for a dirty kitchen.
when your kitchen's terribly distraught, right?
And it's not about just the cleanliness, it's about being able to feed and clothe
and everything else that comes along when having a kitchen.
I mean, it's a decent analogy, but at the end of the day,
we're not even keeping our own house clean and we're meddling everywhere else.
tim pool
You ever see those stories about the people on Facebook who have to monitor political content
and rule violations?
There's a couple different versions of the story.
One is like people see horrifying murder and stuff and they're traumatized and they quit.
But there was another story where it's like a couple of them
where these people are working in politics in the like, we gotta get rid of fake news
and we gotta get rid of, you know, like rule breaks, people breaking the rules
and they started turning right wing.
Because they started seeing these memes and then they kept seeing them over and over and over again as they're supposed to be policing and banning these stories.
They end up seeing a whole bunch of stories and then eventually they're like, Trump's right.
jr majewski
Yeah.
tim pool
And so I'm just hoping that, you know, like Hezbollah and Hamas, they send in these, and Iran, they send these sleeper cells into the United States 20 years ago.
And then they're like, they show up and cross the border and they're like, when our time comes, the infidels will pay.
And now it's like 20 years later and they're morbidly obese and on TikTok and they're going to pride parades and stuff.
ian crossland
And watching Marvel movies.
tim pool
Yeah, watching Marvel movies.
I'm hoping the indoctrination went the other direction with them and they've just been like, what were you complaining about?
This is great.
ian crossland
I wouldn't be surprised that it does happen sometimes.
jr majewski
And to segue on that, you know, I remember seeing that story.
And one of the things that I took away was that the Facebook people that were monitoring these nasty memes or whatever, they were seeing all this traumatizing footage.
They're getting better medical care and mental health care than our troops, right?
Yeah.
ian crossland
You're a veteran of the Air Force.
Like, what's the system?
What's the status of the VA?
What's the problem?
And I guess if you think solutions.
jr majewski
I don't know personally.
I've never sought VA benefits after the service.
I probably could for certain things, but I just never did.
I just always felt like there's guys and women that were worse off than me.
But I do have some friends that work for the Veterans Administration, and I can tell you that You know, they communicated to me and from veteran friends.
There was a pretty distinct difference when Trump was in office because he broke the bureaucracy.
He actually created a mechanism in which the VA doctors could be held accountable.
And before it was kind of like the Fauci thing, you know, he can do whatever he wants, he's not an elected official, so on and so forth.
And, you know, Trump came in and changed that paradigm and a lot of veterans were getting better service.
But, you know, with Biden now, I mean, I'm And he reverted everything within days of being in office.
ian crossland
Do we need a private company to rival the VA and do it better?
jr majewski
I mean, I wouldn't argue that.
I think veterans are pretty simple.
We don't want much.
We just want health care.
We want the benefits that we signed up for, right?
And I don't have all that trauma.
I can't.
No PTSD.
I don't have any of that.
But I have friends that do.
And it's come to the point where they're seeking care on their own.
They're doing different things.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't think that's necessarily bad, right, to have alternative ways to intervene.
I just think the issue is when, you know, you're being told, we don't know when we can see you, we have crazy delays or programs where if you come, you know, you have to be shipped to a different VA to have some sort of treatment and then you don't have the support in that area.
It's not that any medical system in the U.S.
is so great, but in this case, one of the things that especially young men in America are told is if you sign up and serve, you will have this resource for a long time.
Your family will have this resource.
And we know the VA is okay with offering veterans children's hormones, but they can't always get counselors in place for veterans who need it for PTSD treatment.
I mean, the priorities of the VA seem very strange to me.
And again, I want to believe in good faith that there are people who are really trying to do as much as they can, and that the bureaucracy is holding them back.
But it's hard to say.
ian crossland
We need more, in my opinion, more experimental treatment in the VA.
Like MDMA therapy and things.
unidentified
Absolutely.
ian crossland
Because the wars that we're experiencing are experimental wars with experimental technology.
Like, bombs are a new technology.
They kill everything in the vicinity.
They don't discriminate.
To see that would... I mean, the brain is not... I don't think the brains are built for that yet.
tim pool
Well, no, I agree, right?
I love that scene in the movie Snatch.
You guys ever watch that movie?
With Jason Statham and who else is in that?
There's a bunch of guys.
It's a Guy Ritchie movie.
And in the beginning, you got that scene where Turkish is talking to his buddy and his buddy's like, you shouldn't drink milk.
It's out of sync with evolution.
And then he explains that like humans evolve eating like he's playing the paleo diet, basically.
But to shift that to your point, Ian, humans did not develop over thousands of years seeing like dozens of people get limbs blown off all in an instant.
No, I get it.
War existed and there was brutal stuff and people being hit and people dying and there's gore and stuff.
Yeah, bombs.
Like, regular old bomb.
Like, grenades are out of sync with evolution.
Humans witnessing that stuff is well beyond what humans, you know, grew to ever experience.
ian crossland
I felt, I was walking through New York City one day and I just felt a demolition.
Five, six blocks away.
The entire earth shook.
I still feel it in my gut when I think about it.
jr majewski
I had a buddy that, to your point too, when you come out of the military, you're used to a community of structure and camaraderie.
And a lot of these veterans just want support.
They just want to have an outlet that isn't their family.
So they're not placing this emotional burden on them.
And, you know, to some of these, you know, holistic treatment types, I have a friend, Nick, Nick Matson, who's a double Purple Heart recipient, burnt over like 90% of his body.
I just posted a thing about him on Twitter today.
Absolute hero.
And this guy, you know, struggled with the VA for years, was terrified to come out of his home.
He had so much trauma from a PTSD standpoint, but the guy found his way.
And, you know, he's doing great today, but, you know, just seeing the things that he had to go through, it's just, it's horrific.
If the American public understood some of the things these veterans are going through and in exchange for what they're asking for, I mean, this is an easy decision.
tim pool
I wonder if we should have, maybe like, what's a good age?
unidentified
15?
tim pool
Sophomore year of high school?
Make these teens actually watch war footage?
Real war footage?
Actually watch and see what it's like.
And then when it comes time to vote again, when they're older, they're going to be like, no, no, please, no.
I'm sorry, man.
The idea that we got to shelter our kids from the harsh realities of war means they grow up completely oblivious to it and then vote for it because they have no idea.
But imagine if there was a young kid Who actually witnessed something, you know, like the challenge is you don't want to break, you want to make.
And you never know if you're going to make or break someone with something, but there's too many people who don't understand what they're voting for when they vote for war, when they celebrate war.
And they're volunteering you all to go and do it, not them.
They're going to vote for war.
They're not going to go fight it.
They want our men and women in uniform to go do these things.
And then when they come back, it's like, I forgot about it.
ian crossland
Well, I just read that in Ukraine, the draft age has been raised again, I think, and the average Ukrainian male fighter is 43 years old.
tim pool
43 years old?
Average?
Yeah, they're pulling people off trains.
Apparently, there'll be like a 50-something year old guy in a train, and they'll walk in and grab him, and be like, nope, front line.
And they just send him right to the front line, hand him a gun, and say, good luck.
ian crossland
So I'm with you on exposing people to the horror ahead of time, but then I also still want people to volunteer for the military because we need domestic defense.
And I think, I'm not sure what you think, maybe the balance is.
tim pool
Yeah, but look...
So I used to work at this office and their hiring practice was to put up fake ads for what the job is.
This is what all these nonprofits do.
They call it campaign work.
They say, work on campaigns to save the forests or whatever.
And then what happens is when you come in for the interview, they say, oh, you know, you'll be filling out forms and talking to people about what you believe.
And they go, okay, then you bring in for another meeting.
And then they finally land on You're gonna be asking people for money?
Strangers in the street.
And they're like, the reason we do this is because if we tell people what the job is, they won't show up.
And I'm like, so you think it makes more sense for me to interview 50 people of which 49 leave instead of just waiting for the one guy to show up who wants to do the job?
And so, that's my view with, you know, with the military in this regard.
Obviously, you don't want to shock young people in horrifying ways, but they do need to be aware of what it really means to be, you know, to be in the armed forces, to be combat infantry, and what it means to vote for it, and then perhaps the people who volunteer, the people who truly understand what they're signing up for.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I mean, I feel this would be the most helpful in high schools in blue areas, right?
I mean, in my personal experience, you know, I grew up in Connecticut, Blue State.
My brother enlisted in high school to be in the Marine Corps, and his high school fought him tooth and nail the entire way.
He was 18 all of his senior year, so he could be enlisted, but they were like, no, don't you want to go to college?
Don't you want to do this thing?
You have to be over here.
You have to do this thing.
No military family members themselves, maybe their grandfathers, but there's no actual connection to it.
And so there is a idea that that's for someone else to do.
That's not for me, that's not my experience.
And again, this is an issue I feel very strongly about, but in addition to the combat, in addition to the physical labor that goes into the military, in addition to the impact it has on the family if you choose to get married and get shipped around the U.S., I mean, it's a really serious sacrifice.
The other part is that we don't transition people out of the military very effectively.
So we don't offer career counseling in a way that people can really say, this is what I did in the military.
This is what it looks like in the civilian world.
It's a system that we both depend on and are willing to send other people to go fight.
But when people are here domestically, we don't think about them.
tim pool
I wonder if a lot of the problems of wokeness and communism and, you know, far left ideology could just be solved by exposing young people to the realities of life.
You know, when I see these videos and they're like, we should have free education and free healthcare, I'm like, this person's never had a job.
When they're like, you know there's more empty houses than homeless people, we could house and feed every homeless person, I'm like, this person's never worked with the homeless and they've never owned a house.
So, let's expose young people to the realities of life and then have them be like, oh, I was wrong.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
And I think there are young people who grew up and, you know, the reality is it's typically children, teenagers that are growing up in more impoverished, more blue collar areas who have to see what their parents are going through.
They're living in a circumstance where they are exposed earlier.
It's the and this is not to be mean to them, but it's it's the upper middle class to wealthy teenagers in America who are in super progressive schools, especially super progressive private schools, Who then go on to say, I know better than everyone else on the face of the earth because I know who's oppressed and I know what the word colonizer means that I support that group.
I mean, it's ridiculous.
It's very out of touch, but it's not true universally.
It's just it's true in places with influence.
jr majewski
I'm a living example of that.
You know, I grew up in a blue collar family.
I grew up in Toledo, Ohio.
One of the worst, the worst neighborhood in my district.
And you know, my dad worked at Toledo Jeep, built cars for a living.
And you know, I didn't have a choice when I got out of high school.
And to your point, you know, if I would have known more about college, I would have started college earlier.
And nobody was there to teach me.
I'm the first grandkid to ever graduate from college.
tim pool
Oh, I hate college, though.
College is a scam.
jr majewski
Oh, it is.
unidentified
Absolutely.
tim pool
I'm with Randy Marsh on this one.
I just watched South Park Pandaverse.
We watched it earlier today.
I love it when they're like, college is a scam, and they try to fire a catapult into it.
It was the I recommend South Park the Pandaverse.
It's really good.
It's not just about wokeness.
It's about The failures of the economy and they roast the they roast communists.
jr majewski
So so well Anyway, it's the color revolution man, but you know back to what I was saying with with being blue-collar, right?
You're not having a choice when I got out of the you know out of high school What path was I going to take you know?
I had a very strict Really strict father and military just became clear as my only choice and absolutely love the country I've always been patriotic and you know, it seemed like this was my path at least four years I could start off somewhere and you know Growing up watching my dad work 12 16 hour shifts every day coming home couldn't coach the baseball team You know things like that, you know, it it really had an impact on me So, you know after the military, you know, my dad and I couldn't sit in the same room and not agree that these walls are gray
You know, but after the service, coming home, had a proud dad, you know, became really good friends and, you know, the military, you know, changed my life.
But to your point, Tim, if I would have known about certain things at an earlier age, I would have made different life decisions.
ian crossland
But yeah, I think college has become a lot more of a scam since the Internet, because before it was a good place to go congregate with geniuses and learn about data.
But now it's so obsolete.
In my opinion.
Maybe for certain things it's worth going.
jr majewski
When it became a money machine.
hannah claire brimelow
That's what I think.
tim pool
You know, the argument I often would hear from people back in the day about college is, it's where you go to congregate with other like-minded individuals and work on ideas.
And I'm like, but I've been doing that my whole life.
And then you look at, without naming any of these individuals, there are certain people would call them prodigies.
You know, young people who were in certain fields succeeding at early ages, but the reality was, these people would go out, they were online when they were like 12 or 13, and they were in physics forums, talking with physicists, and then people were like, wait a minute, this kid's 15?
The person who was helping us theorize these things is a kid?
And they're like, oh, he's a prodigy.
It's like, no, he was just...
ian crossland
In this space and exposed to it and contributed the guy who built and developed Minds.com the company that I co-founded with Bill Ottman seems Mark Harding He's the CEO and he was 17 when he started building it, but he just learned it all online You just look copy paste read the data.
hannah claire brimelow
This is means that this means that and he just I think universities made sense when they were about getting people in places to discuss ideas and advance academic knowledge.
That was great.
But right now, college is actually just an extension of high school, right?
I mean, it's unusual.
It's the American university system where you're having assignments to turn in every week or stuff like that.
That was not how these institutions were founded.
You're supposed to come up with a thesis that you work on for four years and that's all you do.
And now we have general education classes and this, that, and the other, and it's ultimately all to make money.
with especially government-backed student loans that they still issue even though we know it's setting up millions of students every year for complete financial ruin.
And so ultimately it's marketing this idea that you will get a better job, you'll have something else because of the degree, but the degree doesn't actually make you a better thinker.
It just tells you that you can comply with the rules set out for you, which I don't personally think is a value that I want to instill.
So the South Park Pandiverse episode that everyone's been talking about, it's marketed as the characters are replaced by diverse women.
So Cartman is a black woman now.
But there's an A story and a B story.
you should be expanding your intellectual curiosity and pursuing your interests.
And that's not what happens in the universities anymore.
tim pool
So the South Park Pandiverse episode that everyone's been talking about,
it's marketed as the characters are replaced by diverse women.
So Cartman is a black woman now, but there's an A story and a B story.
And the B story is that no one knows how to do anything.
And so Randy Marsh, Stan's dad, the stove breaks.
And he's like, I'm gonna show you kids how to fix the stove, the stove door.
So he calls the handyman and then the handyman's like, well, I'm going to have to come back later.
You're, you know, the, the, the screws are stripped.
And he's like, wait, I'll pay you more money to stay and fix it now.
And he goes, ah, someone already paid me more money to go fix theirs now.
So what happens is all the, all the handyman ended up becoming billionaires.
And then when none of the regular people can get their light bulbs fixed or their power outlets fixed or anything fixed, they start blaming the billionaires because the handymen are all billionaires.
And then they start holding up, we are the 99% signs.
They're saying capitalism has failed.
They're like, all these billionaires are withholding their access to this work and we can't get anything fixed now.
It's their fault.
Capitalism's failed us.
And I'm just like, It's really, really funny because it exemplifies so much of what the left complains about, especially young people.
They're just like, if they can't have it right away, it's the rich person's fault.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
It also highlights the value of artisanry.
And like, before, you were lucky to find someone that knew how to forge a steel sword.
You had to spend time with that person.
Now, we're in a point in history where it's all available.
If you want to become a plumber, you can figure it out.
But if all this power goes out, You're not gonna, you're gonna have to find a plumber to learn, or just trial and error.
Books.
Maybe books if you have access to them, if you're lucky, and maybe you had one, and there's still a library standing.
tim pool
Well, so that was a funny part of the show, is that they basically, spoiler alerts I guess, they're just like, the real problem was college.
Randy's like, if I didn't spend eight years getting a PhD in geology, I'd know how to actually fix things and do work!
And then I'd be rich!
And so they go and start protesting the colleges, it's good, it's really good.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, I'm like, what do you want out of life, right?
If you want to make a certain amount of money so you can have a career you like and then also pursue your interests and, you know, start new businesses or travel or whatever else, going to college doesn't actually make sense.
You're going to massive amount of debts.
You don't have the guarantee of a job.
You should look at trades.
You should look at all kinds of other things.
Where it takes less initial investment, you're able to, if you have to take out a loan, pay it off much faster.
And then also you have the option to work in a variety of settings.
This is the thing about, you know, and I got my bachelor's in English.
I feel comfortable saying this.
Who knows what I was going to do with that?
tim pool
What does that even mean?
Like, what's a bachelor's in English?
hannah claire brimelow
Well, the bachelor's degree is just the, like, four-year degree.
unidentified
No, I get it.
hannah claire brimelow
For English, it's English literature.
So I can tell you a lot about poetry.
I can write some interesting essays.
My second one, I had two degrees.
The second one was in communication studies.
And so you took basic classes in communication theory.
Some, like, public relations stuff.
It worked out.
It's fine.
tim pool
If we open a poetry store, do you think it would do well?
hannah claire brimelow
I'm in.
ian crossland
Slam poet.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, that was the thing.
When I reached the end of my four-year degree, they were like, would you like to work for Teach for America?
And I was like, I don't want to be a teacher.
jr majewski
She's a highly articulated communicator, though.
hannah claire brimelow
Absolutely.
I already knew how to talk beforehand, right?
I could have spent four years reading the news, doing something else.
I'm grateful for college.
You know, I had a good experience because I liked being in class.
I liked learning.
But do I think it's worth the investment?
No.
tim pool
See, I reject this, right?
This is one of the arguments I've heard a lot from people when they're like, I think college was good for me.
And I'm like, you don't know if it was good for you, because you don't know what you would have done if you didn't do it.
hannah claire brimelow
And to be honest, the things that I tell people about college is that I was really grateful to go to a different environment.
I would call it in Texas.
It's, you know, more Bible Bell, I was around people, very different people socially.
And that was interesting.
That was that was a had a profoundly positive impact on my life.
But It's not to say that college is the reason I am where I am today.
tim pool
I'd argue it holds you back.
And this is what I would say to a lot of people I knew in their mid-twenties or whatever.
They're like, I went to college and I'm doing all right.
And I'm like, look, man, I'm not trying to be a dick to you, but you're a shift supervisor at a Starbucks making $15 an hour and you're 25.
Okay.
There are people who have started their own businesses by the time they were 22.
I know people who became managers of fast food restaurants by the time they were 23 and they're making, you know, 40,000 a year.
I'm not trying to be it.
You know, it's like you don't want to be a dick to someone who's like, I think I'm doing all right, because you want to cheer them on.
But it's like, look, man, we can't keep encouraging people to stunt their lives by going to college instead of learning how to actually work in ways that can benefit their fellow man.
hannah claire brimelow
It's not the only option.
And that's the thing that I think American high schools get wrong, which is that they they use the statistics of how many people matriculate to college to say that we are a really good high school.
But that's a bad that's a bad statistic.
You might as well say our graduating class is entering multi-million dollars worth of debt.
Do you think we are a good high school?
That would be a more accurate way of representing what they think students can accomplish.
ian crossland
It's making me think of a question for you, JR, about knowing how valuable trades are and the ability to build.
You were project management for energy companies, or at least one in particular.
What company?
jr majewski
First Energy.
ian crossland
For First Energy, you developed, you know, you're saying a campus at one point, or you've designed.
What made you decide to pivot away from that into politics?
jr majewski
Well, it kind of goes back to where I started.
So I started in the union at the power plants, and the barrier to management for me was a degree.
It was a prerequisite in the power industry.
So I ended up finishing my master's degree.
I was a really hard worker, and I caught the attention of the site vice president when Davis-Bessey Nuclear Power Plant in Ohio had the reactor head incident.
And, you know, I just was a hardware and a lot of it comes from what Tim saying, right?
You apply your hard work ethic, but then you supplement that with the knowledge that you gain from college.
I went to college late in life.
I didn't go right after high school.
That was a service.
So, you know, The pivot for me, though, to politics was COVID.
I was traveling the country 200 some days a year.
I was working at different nuclear reactors across the country, and COVID had me working out of a home office, and I became politically active because of Donald Trump.
My dad was a lifelong Democrat, and he was a huge Donald Trump fan, and he talked me into paying more attention to Trump, and I did.
The long story short is in 2020, a veterans group and I that I support, I painted the Trump 2020 logo on my big, big yard on Lake Erie and it went viral.
I was on Fox and Friends and then I got a call from President Trump.
Wow.
Yeah, it just grew from there.
And I ended up developing a decent Twitter following for a guy from Northwest Ohio.
And when I watched what happened during the 2020 election, and I watched what was going on in my district, you know, 40-year Democratic incumbent doing nothing for us, I decided that I was going to use the political capital that I gained and just shake some trees.
It was a Democratic plus 12 district.
I had no chance in hell to win.
But luckily, right before the primary election, they redistricted.
The district flipped to a Republican plus 2.9.
And here I am, the candidate.
I beat two elected officials, state elected officials, absolutely demolished them.
And I was on my way to running the general election.
So the pivot for me was just becoming aware of what was going on in American politics and knowing that I grew up in poverty, I grew up in a struggle, and what I was seeing happening by these oligarchs and these wealthy folks, it just didn't make sense.
tim pool
Let's pull up this story.
We have this poll from Quinnipiac.
This one's got people all hot and bothered.
2024 presidential race stays static in the face of major events.
Quinnipiac University National Poll finds RFK Jr.
receives 22% as independent candidate in three-way race.
Now, the interesting thing here is that with the independent candidate, they say that Joe Biden wins.
They say, well, let me just pull up the actual Quinnipiac here from 538.
They say, Actually, it looks like, if they include Cornel West, but Joe Biden gets 39%, Trump gets 36, and Kennedy gets 22.
Now, a lot of people are responding, especially Trump supporters, being like, what?
unidentified
22%?
tim pool
Who that?
Are you polling?
Now, Quinnipiac also has this poll, including Cornel West.
I love it.
If Cornel West runs, apparently Trump still loses.
Okay, wait, hold on a minute.
I'm like, it's really funny when they put both of these metrics out at the same time.
Okay, so it's Biden, Trump, Kennedy on the ticket.
Kennedy gets 22%.
But if you add Cornel West, someone pulls one point away from Donald Trump.
Are they implying Cornel West will take 1% of Trump's voters?
Cornel West, he's super far left, right?
I mean, that's ridiculous.
hannah claire brimelow
He's according to the same demographic as Trump, 100%.
tim pool
Sure!
It's a ridiculous idea that Trump would lose because of West and Kennedy.
And when you look at all the other polls, take a look at this one.
Redfield-Wilton strategies, Kennedy 10%, Trump wins, 40-38.
They have another poll showing it's 35-33 with Kennedy at 10%, probably because they may have Cornel West in there.
You have this one from McLaughlin.
Biden 35, Trump 38, Kennedy 12, West 2.
McLaughlin also has Trump winning.
All the other polls, at least Abacus has a tie.
So there's one poll showing Trump losing.
I guess technically it's a Quinnipiac S2.
And then Abacus showing a tie.
And the other polls, we've got 1, 2, I believe 3, 4.
Four other polls showing Trump wins with Kennedy on the ballot.
I don't know for sure, but I'm definitely leaning towards I do not see Trump voters leaving.
I'm talking about MAGA.
I'm talking about moderate, independent types.
I don't see them being like, oh, vote for Kennedy instead of Trump.
Some maybe, but it's mostly going to be Democrats who think Biden can't win and that Biden is horrible, he's corrupt, he's a warmonger, and they're going to vote for Kennedy.
jr majewski
I agree.
I think Biden's doing all the work for these other candidates right now.
In my district in Ohio, it's highly independent, and I see a huge swing for voters driving towards Trump just because of what he's standing for and the fact that he's getting attacked so terribly.
They're seeing the reality of politics right now.
ian crossland
I heard a Biden speech from, I guess, four years ago.
And man, he sounded clear, like a normal guy.
And now when you listen to him, it is freakish.
He is just tired.
tim pool
It's exponential.
You know, it's like the decline accelerates the older you get.
So it's a curve straight down.
ian crossland
I'm so concerned.
I'm torn because I'd like to meet him and help his brain a little bit because he is our commander.
tim pool
But you can't help his brain either.
ian crossland
Just listen to him, like let him kind of wake himself up a little bit.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, and it's degenerative, right?
I mean, that's the sad thing about dementia illnesses, right?
Like any kind of elderly atrophying, it's not reversible.
tim pool
It's not coming back.
ian crossland
I've seen THC consume amyloid plaque, which is the cause of Alzheimer's, in a microscope.
I'd have to continue to look for more data to back that up, but I believe I've seen that.
Also, I hear psilocybin helps people in older age.
hannah claire brimelow
There might be in the future, but right now, we have very little, if any way at all, to slow or stop these progressive degenerative diseases.
I don't think that's sad.
tim pool
Stem cells, right to the brain.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I mean, maybe there's something, and maybe if we're testing them, you know, experimental treatments, you know, giving us an option in the VA, maybe, you know, Biden can have a chance to try this out, but realistically, in the next year, he is not going to suddenly improve, considering we've seen a consistent decline in the last three years.
ian crossland
So, if he walked into a chamber, and it would close, Yeah, what's the story now?
$40,000 in laundered payments?
like 38, would you vote for him?
No.
If he was healthy like a 30 year old?
hannah claire brimelow
But he's a Democrat.
tim pool
He's still evil.
hannah claire brimelow
He could look 38.
tim pool
Now he's young evil.
hannah claire brimelow
He would look 38 and I still need him to close the border, which he won't do.
unidentified
He wasn't ever, you know what I mean?
jr majewski
Should he get all that Biden money back though from the gap?
tim pool
Yeah, what's his story now?
$40,000 in laundered payments.
ian crossland
Oh, what's that?
tim pool
Yeah, there's like, so there was a $200,000 payment from his brother.
Now apparently there's a report about $40,000 paid directly to Joe Biden, which appears to be laundered from China.
ian crossland
Man, I'm glad you brought up the border.
It's just, I probably, you guys talk about it a lot.
I hope, hopefully it gets talked about a lot.
Are they building it up right now?
Because it's like, yo, if we're really gonna about to spark a war in the Middle East or like jump into the fire over there, we better have closed borders.
tim pool
Yeah!
serge du preez
I mean, at this point... That would make sense, yes!
hannah claire brimelow
If you were in a dangerous neighborhood, I've said this a hundred times on the show, but if you were in a dangerous neighborhood, you would lock your own front door and instead we're like, no, it's fine.
Let's open all of the windows.
Let's just pretend like everything is cool.
tim pool
But it's not just that.
If you're going to throw a flaming bag of feces at your neighbor's house, You're going to also lock your doors because your neighbor is going to get mad at you.
Now I'm not... I guess I can technically say the US is basically doing this because we shouldn't be involved in this stuff anyway.
But the US getting involved in all of these conflicts and leaving the back door open...
Yeah.
ian crossland
And the front door with Canada.
I know there are allies, but that doesn't mean Chinese tanks can't just roll through central Canada into Wisconsin.
tim pool
There's no barrier, dude.
No.
There was a story about a bunch of 20-year-olds, and they just drove down the border and then just turned into the United States.
And I think they got in trouble.
jr majewski
The Pacific Northwest, yeah.
tim pool
Cause there's no barriers there.
serge du preez
No, no.
tim pool
You know, there's just like, it's like the trees are cut and they have drones patrol sometimes.
You go to the southern border and it's like some, some areas, you know, there's nothing, but there's a lot of bollard fencing.
And then there's patrols that go up and down and you've got the militias down there.
jr majewski
Yeah.
Didn't we have the Chinese military was caught practicing some drill or performing military drills in Canada last year, if I'm not mistaken?
tim pool
I don't think they were caught.
I think that was like a joint effort between Canada and China.
ian crossland
Yeah, it seems like the Chinese don't want any military conflict with the U.S.
They had Gavin Newsom over there to talk to Xi.
I was going to call him Emperor Xi.
President Xi.
And they were like, we're going to do anything we can to preserve peace between us.
I wouldn't put it past them to say that and then declare an invasion.
That's like stuff Hitler would have done.
tim pool
I saw a video of a guy in China eating at, I think it was a Pizza Hut, and they can stuff the crust with hot dogs.
And when I saw that, I was just like, we're doomed.
And I wouldn't say half kidding.
I would say that's 75% a joke.
The reality is they are competing with us in a lot of ways that we should be the best at.
And I don't literally mean putting hot dogs in pizza.
It's just that we're giving up our manufacturing.
Only now in the past several years seem to have realized that we've given up the industry and manufacturing we need to maintain an economy.
And now you're seeing China's, they're cranking away.
They're burning coal, baby.
They're just smogging it up.
ian crossland
And by the way, I'm going to interview James Tuer at Rice University, he's the leading graphene scientist on Earth.
And they're working on flash jewel graphene, where they hit carbon trash with lasers and can produce this black powder, this stuff.
This is the 21st century building material that we'll need to revolutionize our country with.
tim pool
I don't know, though.
ian crossland
One of them, probably.
tim pool
Maybe.
It's just like the graphene story came out 20 years ago.
It was like graphene, the wonder material, 20 years ago.
And so we got some cool stuff from it.
But, and I wonder, I think it's really gonna come down to the basics.
Are we producing steel?
Right?
Are we?
ian crossland
Well I think you can use, you can put this stuff in with like carbonized steel if you're gonna make it and make it stronger and lighter and also with coal, like you were saying we burn coal, you can upscale coal into graphene and burn it cleaner.
So there are some, I'm very excited it's gonna be Friday afternoon so keep in touch on my Twitter and you can watch it there.
So there you go.
It's re-industrialized.
Go for it.
hannah claire brimelow
Oh, I was just saying, I mean, I want to believe in science and innovation.
I really do.
But I get sort of frustrated with it when ultimately, you know, if graphene is the future, maybe it is.
I don't I know nothing about it.
But is America going to do something about it or is it going to be China?
Right.
Like what country is actually most likely to be ahead in terms of manufacturing these things?
And I would assume it's the country where we put all of the manufacturing.
And so in some ways, we've hamstringed our own ability to embrace innovation by shipping all of these things overseas.
I mean, even if someone in a lab at a university in America comes up with something, ultimately the technology is getting shipped out of the country to develop, in my cynical opinion.
ian crossland
I would counter that those would become obsolete factories over there now.
We'll start building new ones that focus on flash jewel creation.
hannah claire brimelow
If we build them here, I'm okay with it.
I just don't know that we will.
serge du preez
Well that's what we're trying to do in Arizona and places like that where we could actually have these factories.
So if that actually happens then a lot of like the reasons for taking Taiwan or protecting Taiwan become secondary to us actually having the factories back in the United States.
That's not all manufacturing though.
China can still out-manufacture us with raw products, but when it comes to technical manufacturing,
yeah, that's going to be huge in the next 20 years.
jr majewski
The biggest place we're handicapped in comparison with China is in regulatory framework. I mean,
if you look at how our government hyper-regulates not only the industrial side of manufacturing,
but then the energy side, right? And that's kind of my wheelhouse, right? And that's why we have
the stifling of small modular reactors and you know.
We have American innovators that are having to take their technology to Canada and go through the regulatory board there, hoping that the NRC here, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission here, will finally open up the gates and allow them to build SMRs here.
We're losing out on every aspect.
tim pool
What's an SMR?
jr majewski
Small Modular Reactor.
ian crossland
How does that work?
jr majewski
You know, it's a mini-reactor that is, you know, mechanically incapable... Small modular reactor!
...of melting down.
You can power a small city with a reactor the size of this room.
Need no operators.
tim pool
And it can't melt down?
jr majewski
Right, cannot melt down.
What's the fuel source?
Still uranium, but it's a... Too small?
...passive technology.
I mean, it doesn't rely on operators.
The way it's designed, I'm no physicist or nuclear engineer, but You know, the way I understand it is the recirculation system, the cooling system, they're all, you know, they're all passive and reliant on condensation and the systems working in cohesion with one another.
So there's no operator manipulation.
tim pool
What about thorium salt?
We've heard a lot about that.
jr majewski
I think thorium salt's another awesome opportunity for us that we're just, I mean, there's reactors out there that I mean, there's ways to convert our retired coal plants into thorium salt reactors.
Really?
Yeah.
I used to work for a guy that invented that.
His name is Dr. Singh, and he introduced it to our federal government, Department of Energy.
tim pool
Why aren't we doing these?
Why are we not doing it?
jr majewski
Because the money is not going in the right pockets.
tim pool
It's because of Grant Thunberg, isn't it?
hannah claire brimelow
In your experience, how has the American public's opinion shifted on nuclear?
Because I feel like that's ultimately, if there were people calling for it, eventually someone would do it, right?
jr majewski
I mean, they're doing it.
The problem is, I mean, there is a specific paradigm around nuclear power.
People drive by cooling towers and they think that's the reactor.
And a lot of it has to do with the nuclear power plants not having the market over the years.
They've been in regulated environments where they know they're going to charge a certain amount per megawatt.
You know, and they're going to get paid because people have to turn their lights on.
But then when you have different forms of energy that are subsidized by the federal government that undercut the market, then nuclear becomes... Well, I blame the Simpsons.
tim pool
So this is actually true.
Simpsons is considered to be a factor, maybe not the biggest, in why there is resistance to nuclear energy.
Because people grew up watching this joke of Springfield of mutated fish.
ian crossland
Three-eyed fish.
tim pool
Three-eyed fish, Blinky, and Meltdowns, I think, are a theme of a dozen episodes at least.
And so people are consuming media and they're believing these things are based on reality.
They say, well, every joke has its truth.
And it's like, no, look, there's not going to be a nuclear plant so close to you like this.
It's not going to blow up.
You're not going to die.
There are less deaths from nuclear power than from coal.
And, like, it's exponential.
jr majewski
The nuclear power industry is the safest industry, one of the safest industries in the country.
ian crossland
Yeah.
jr majewski
Absolutely.
ian crossland
What's the biggest misconception about radiation damage?
Like, I think what happened is when Chernobyl melted down, it just, what, all the spent nuclear corium or whatever was just there, so it was constantly irradiating the environment.
tim pool
It bursted into the air, and then you had the meltdown, which created the elephant's foot.
ian crossland
And then had they been able to extract the corium, then would it have no longer been irradiating and it'd go back to normal?
jr majewski
I mean, if you remove the source, yeah, then you would have no radiation.
tim pool
But the problem with Chernobyl was that when it exploded, it sprayed radioactive particulates everywhere, which blanketed down over the region.
And when the West was like, hey, Russia, what's going on?
They're like, nothing's happening.
Everything's fine.
And they're like, now we're getting slammed by radiation, like reactive particles.
So we know something happened.
ian crossland
I was thinking about corium meltdowns.
Corium's like the stuff in the middle that when it gets really hot goes and it goes through cement and it'll just keep melting down.
If you pour gold into it that it will create act as a superconductor and allow the corium to cool itself off and release the heat.
So it'll it'll then it'll harden and then you could extract it.
jr majewski
I'm not sure that gamma rays wouldn't pass through that.
I mean, if it could be x-rayed, then you can still have, you know, a fission product, I would assume.
I mean, the only real shielding mechanism that you're going to have from radiation of that source is going to be water or lead or high-density concrete.
ian crossland
It wouldn't be to shield it, it would just be more to extract it so it gets out of its liquid form.
jr majewski
Even then, you have to worry about the dose exposure that you're going to get as a human.
You can only get so much before your internal organs are going to be liquid.
ian crossland
You have to send a robot in to do it.
tim pool
I think the biggest misconception, based on my personal experience, is that
you're dealing with gamma wave radiation instead of alpha and beta particles.
Right.
So this is what I learned when I went to Fukushima.
They give you this cloth suit to put on and I was like, is this a joke?
And they were like, this is what you have to wear.
Why?
They're not worried about you getting bombarded by waves that go through everything.
They're worried about the particles landing on your skin, which are radioactive, and then you eating them or getting them in your lungs.
Yep.
jr majewski
So that's an internal source.
tim pool
Yeah, so you wear these cloth suits, and then when you're leaving, you take them off very carefully, they bunch them up and throw them in the garbage.
ian crossland
We mentioned thorium salt earlier.
Can you really quickly, generally explain what that is, a thorium salt reactor?
jr majewski
Oh, that's kind of out of my wheelhouse, but I know that, you know, the thorium salt is essentially heated up probably through the super steam process, and then that kind of creates like a resonating heat source, which then continues to create the super steam, which turns the turbine, right?
tim pool
Isn't that really funny?
That's all it is.
We pressurize a tube so that it pushes steam, which spins... It's kind of beautiful and simple.
hannah claire brimelow
I sort of like that, you know?
tim pool
It's a big magnet spin, creates an optical current.
There you go.
ian crossland
So my other question on nuclear is, what about fusion?
And I know these get conflated because they're not even remotely the same process, but they're both called nuclear power, which is kind of weird.
But what do you think about fusion?
Is that even anything you've ever studied?
jr majewski
No, I mean...
You know, in my opinion, the future, again, it goes back to the standard way of nuclear fission, right?
Just having smaller, more manageable, less scary to the public reactors, things that, you know, take out the human element, because that's really where you've seen these meltdowns or where you've seen these close calls.
The general public hasn't been communicated to is like there was always a safety actuation system that stopped the general public from being harmed.
There's, you know, what they call defense in depth, there's always like three to four different layers of defense, you know, with these nuclear power plants, at least in the United States, right?
Europe has totally different standards.
But here in the US, You had Davis-Bessey, you had Three Mile Island.
I mean, we were pretty far away from actually having a meltdown, but, you know, when it's communicated to the public, it's all about, you know, scaring them.
ian crossland
Have you heard of those nuclear diamond batteries?
Where they have, like, spent nuclear fuel, and they put it inside of, like, a diamond, and it just gives you a low pulse of energy?
jr majewski
Yeah.
ian crossland
Can you explain that real quick?
jr majewski
I don't know.
I've heard of them, but I don't know much.
I don't know much about it.
ian crossland
They give you, like, 10,000 years of electricity?
Really low?
Like a phone?
Yeah, things like that.
Really, really low charge.
And then I guess you could have a lot of them to create a greater charge.
But it's actually nuclear waste inside of a diamond.
Inside of, like, carbon.
jr majewski
That's what we're missing out on is this recycling of spent nuclear fuel.
When this nuclear fuel comes out of the reactor, it's only using 5 to 7% of its energy potential.
And we have like 86,000 kilograms or whatever of metric tons of spent nuclear fuel sitting in the United States that we're not using.
And you have countries like Europe that are Reprocessing and they're reusing their spent nuclear fuel.
We're throwing it in canisters and leaving it at the nuclear reactors across the country and that's a multi-billion dollar industry that we could be opening and creating high-paying jobs, high-paying technical jobs for a bunch of people and we're not doing it.
hannah claire brimelow
And people don't do it because there's a fear of nuclear.
jr majewski
Absolutely.
ian crossland
Maybe not after tonight.
hannah claire brimelow
We're changing hearts and minds over here.
jr majewski
Got to.
ian crossland
Nuclear diamonds.
hannah claire brimelow
We just need to bring back that guy from the Biden administration, the non-binary guy who kept stealing luggage.
Maybe he can save the day.
ian crossland
He'd wear a nuclear diamond ring and become a superhero.
hannah claire brimelow
That he took from someone else's bag.
tim pool
Let's jump to the story.
We've got a couple of political bits to jump on.
We have the Postmonial Trump Blasts Attempt to Illegally Remove His Name from Ballot in Colorado on Phony Insurrection Claims.
And ladies and gentlemen, we have received a spot in the books of history.
At the trial for Donald Trump over whether or not he should be allowed on the ballot, they played this clip, which I will play for you now, of a show you've probably seen with Kash Patel.
Here we go.
I have to wonder, Cash, if everything I said before about people being too stupid, it's in fact that the leadership is as stupid, right?
unidentified
Of course!
The leadership is- No, no.
The leadership is evil.
There's a distinction.
I've worked with all of these people.
They are pure evil.
The only thing the Pelosi's and the Schumer's and the like care about in the world is being glorified in the media.
That's it.
What's my next headline?
What's my next payday?
How do I scam the stock market with my husband?
How do I come out on top and be Speaker of the House for more than basically a decade?
That is the tract that people come in behind them on and say, I want to be the next term.
I want to be the next him.
They are evil.
That's the problem.
The people that follow them?
Yes, stupid.
tim pool
Yep, stupid.
And they're evil.
So that was played, that clip.
It's funny because as soon as Cash said they're evil, I laughed with myself laughing in the clip in the same way.
I thought it was hilarious.
And shout out to Phil Labonte for his cameo in the Trump trial.
This is the current state of American politics.
We have this tweet here.
From Dean Phillips, he says, in one graph, this is why I'm running for president.
We could be sleepwalking towards disaster.
We need an open primary, and I hope other qualified Democrats still jump in.
Here it is from Bloomberg News Morning Consult.
Trump is leading in five of seven swing states, and Michigan's a tie.
So, you've got in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, North Carolina, Arizona, and Georgia, Trump is ahead.
In Michigan, it's tied.
In Nevada, Biden is leading.
Altogether, Trump is up by four points.
So why are they trying to remove Trump from the ballot in Colorado?
I think Colorado isn't one of these states, but they want to make sure that the popular vote count is as low as possible for Donald Trump, and they want to cripple him.
They want to exhaust his resources and force him into legal battles.
The problem, however, is this is basically giving Trump a 24-7 rally.
I get it.
They're trying to stop him by any means necessary, but it's like a Chinese finger trap problem.
They keep saying, we're going to put him in court.
Okay, now the media has got a camera in Trump's face again, letting him say whatever he wants.
hannah claire brimelow
And it makes me think the people in Colorado whose tax dollars are being spent on this trial, right?
Do they look at this and say, yes, this is our biggest priority?
If you had told me they were doing something similar in, like, maybe 2016, right?
When people were really... 2020, when people were really orange man bad, really freaking out about Trump, maybe I would have said, oh yeah, the average Coloradan feels like this is the most important news.
But I don't feel that way, especially post-COVID, and especially since, you know, Denver in particular has been really hard hit by illegal immigration.
There are a lot of issues that I'm sure people in Colorado would rather see their government focusing on.
And instead, this is what they're being told their government's number one, the legal apparatus of their government's number one priority is right now.
That would seem dissatisfactory for me.
I don't know how you feel about it.
jr majewski
No, I agree.
And I think what the American people are seeing is just a spending spree by the Biden administration.
To your point, you know, the average everyday American now is paying a lot more attention to what's going on politically.
And I think Trump once again resonates with the common American and you know the two-tiered justice system the guy's been on trial since 2016 and you can only run it so many times without people paying some attention and the more they You know the more they see it the more drawn in they are and I just think Trump has put on a master class on how to deal with the media he's put on a master class on how to deal with these court systems and he's very transparent and he speaks his mind and I think people appreciate I know I do
ian crossland
He's definitely weathered this, I would say.
There's great words to describe it, but very impressively, I would say.
His mind is still very clear.
I can hear the fatigue, but I mean, God, anyone going through this would be fatigued.
tim pool
I'm just at the Elmo meme phase in this one.
You know, the Elmo with fire rising up behind him.
That's where I'm at with this.
hannah claire brimelow
Tim's Halloween costume next year.
tim pool
At this point, I really don't care what Trump says or does.
I just despise these people so much.
That I just want Trump to go in and do whatever he wants because it would be the most irritating thing in the world for them.
And I know that's how people felt in 2016 and 2020.
I didn't feel that way in 2016.
I was like, yeah, it's all stupid.
But there were a lot of people who were looking at Donald Trump as this raging bull and they were laughing like, I hope this guy gets to do it, everyone.
I'm at the point where I'm just like, I am so fed up with these trials, with these lies, the manipulation.
I'm just like, can we get two or three Trumps?
Can we get the whole Trump family?
Can we get... Where is Barron?
hannah claire brimelow
Where is Barron?
tim pool
I got an idea.
We're constantly trying to figure out who the VP is going to be.
Trump, Trump.
Trump, Trump!
unidentified
Just do it.
tim pool
I don't care which one it is.
ian crossland
Can you run with your son?
tim pool
Why not?
ian crossland
Can your son be your vice president?
tim pool
Any one of them.
unidentified
Any one of them.
jr majewski
As long as they're not from the same state.
tim pool
Trump, Trump.
hannah claire brimelow
But I don't think they are.
unidentified
Lara Trump.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, well she was North Carolina.
I heard rumors that Lara Trump might seriously consider running in North Carolina because that's where she's from.
tim pool
She should be VP.
Trump, Trump.
hannah claire brimelow
That'd be so interesting.
tim pool
Just more Trumps!
These awful people who exploit the system to enrich themselves through the stock market and all this awful garbage.
And then we're watching them lie, cheat, and steal because the American people are finally like, guys, you ripped us off for long enough.
All we're doing now is saying Trump's going to build some border security and we're going to bring manufacturing back.
None of these wars.
And y'all couldn't even have it.
Y'all got away with ripping us off for generations, stealing.
These ridiculous stock trading deals, they know what's going on, they're passing the laws, they're introducing them, they are lying, cheating, and stealing, and all we ask is that some dude gets in for eight little old years and gets some border security and brings the manufacturing back, and you said F you to all of us And I'm just like, at this point, I just hope it's Trump 2024, 28, 32, 36, etc.
Just never-ending!
I'm just so done with it.
jr majewski
Have you seen the Mel Gibson meme?
Where it's like, me voting for Trump in 2016 is just Mel Gibson smiling, and then me voting for, no, in 2020, and then me voting for Trump in 24, and it's got, you know, Mel Gibson with the Braveheart.
That's how the American people feel, man.
ian crossland
What is it about Vivek?
Do you guys, how do you feel about Vivek?
jr majewski
I love him.
ian crossland
I do too.
jr majewski
I love him.
ian crossland
Do you think he, like, do you throw your support behind him?
Or would you pick Trump?
Do you have a preference?
jr majewski
You know, my loyalties to Trump, I think he deserves another four years for all of the reasons we just said.
But, you know, Vivek, I met him a few years back when You know, he wasn't running for politics.
He spoke at a Lincoln Day dinner locally and took a couple minutes of time to talk to me.
And he's a guy from Ohio.
I think he's, you know, the young, articulate, strong American dream type of guy that we need.
And he's... He could be VP.
Great.
I think that's what he's...
hannah claire brimelow
He said he wouldn't take it.
tim pool
He said he wouldn't, but he's probably the best person right now, realistically, in terms of positioning.
I would, you know, it is tough to figure out, like, who really would be the best VP, but Vivek, outside of him saying he doesn't want it, probably is best positioned for it.
jr majewski
I know his team is, that's their focus, right?
Yeah.
I mean, I talked to his team.
They're great people, right?
But I mean, you know, the long game for them, they're supporting Trump.
I mean, Vivek is supporting Trump, right?
He's never bashed him, but... Vivek's also 38.
Yeah, and I think the reality, he knows he's not going to defeat Trump, right?
And I think Vivek's intention was to kneecap Ron DeSantis in the debates, and he did a hell of a job doing it.
ian crossland
Well, Ron did it to himself.
I'm going to say, Ron, I wanted to love you, dude.
You went on Patrick Bette David's show.
Where have you been?
Come on, man.
Just relax and sit down and talk to us.
tim pool
Take your shoes off.
hannah claire brimelow
Don't worry.
tim pool
He's the governor of Florida, in Florida.
Patrick Bette David's in Miami.
I'll never do this, right?
Cenk, you came on the Culture War podcast.
I said, thank you.
I know you host your own show.
Taking time off from your show to do my show is a favor to me.
I get it.
Ron DeSantis is in Florida.
It's easy for him to do PBD.
ian crossland
Yeah, but you put in, what would it come to fly out here?
You put in like eight tops, 18 hours of work.
You're going to get 700,000 hours of product out of it from watch time.
tim pool
I got, I got to be honest.
I got to be honest about this.
You, I, Patrick, but David is much more brutal than I am.
Like, I give people leeway, and some people argue I should not.
You know, a lot of people were saying that when Cenk Uygur came on the show, I should have just gone at him way heavier, and they were like, why didn't it pop off?
And I was like, I was trying to prevent it from getting into that heated debate.
And there were a few points where we talked about George Floyd and Ahmaud Arbery, where Cenk got really heated, and I pulled away from it, trying to keep things down.
Patrick Bet-David, the way he went after Anthony Weiner, I mean, Ron had to know that PBD is not going to let him walk away from the high heel scandal in this way.
I gotta be honest.
If Ron came here, I would not drag him.
I would not have done it.
hannah claire brimelow
You wouldn't have had a box of Ferragamo shoes.
It was funny.
It's a clip.
Obviously, his team had planned it.
Even the way he's phrasing it.
I'm sure you've heard about this thing, like, you know, this scandal about your shoes or whatever.
Like, Patrick Davis knew what he was doing.
He knew he was going to do it the second, you know, he got DeSantis.
It's a different style of show.
It's not the way you operate.
tim pool
No one who comes on the show will ever be ambushed like that.
And I mean, there's no disrespect to PBD.
I think it was masterfully done.
And he's pointing out great criticism, but that's just not how we do things.
I'm a big fan of the work that he does.
I think he's a genius.
But it's funny to me seeing that.
I'm like, the DeSantis people are banned from coming on this show.
hannah claire brimelow
But they would choose... By their own team. Right, right.
tim pool
Yeah, we want them on. We want DeSantis and his people to come on, but they've refused. They've
told their staff they're not allowed.
And then he decided to go on Valuetainment instead, where it's like, yo, that's the frying
jr majewski
pan, man. That's like... It's way more hostile. Yeah. It's an example of the poor team that
Ron DeSantis has around him. He's in an echo chamber, right?
I've met Ron DeSantis before.
I liked him before the election, man.
I was just thinking, like, this guy, you know, if he would have done what Reagan, you know, did to Barry Goldwater, right?
He could have passed the torch, or not passed the torch, but he could have had the torch passed to him on the back end, right?
And he didn't do that.
And I think Everything about his campaign is a shining example of the consultant class ruining politics.
The guy has been in an echo chamber his entire campaign.
You can see when he steps out, because when he steps out, that's when he's out of his zone and he makes a lot of mistakes.
But man, dude, only if, right?
I mean, he would have been the perfect guy in 2028, but now it's too late.
tim pool
No, you know what I really do think?
I know I've said it several times in the past couple weeks, but I think the donors went to Ron and convinced him to run to make sure he would not be VP.
A Trump-DeSantis ticket is unbeatable.
And that's what everyone had been saying the year before.
I've talked about, I'm talking to a guy, I'm hanging out at MGM National Harbor, and there's a guy, he's like, I hate Trump, but I can't vote for Biden.
And I'm like, what about DeSantis?
He's like, oh yeah, I'd vote for DeSantis for sure.
And then I say, what if it's Trump-DeSantis?
Trump president tends VP, and he goes, Yeah, I'd vote for it.
He's like, with DeSantis there, I think I could do it.
And I think the establishment saw the writing on the wall that Ron is willing to play ball with whatever's gonna get him the victory.
So in Florida, he's going along with core right culture war talking points and he's putting his policies forward and they're like, uh-oh.
That means that if he teams up with Trump, he's going to just say yes sir to Trump and he's going to go along with this to try and be successful and build a career up.
So they go to Ron and they say, no, no, you should be president.
You should run.
And they're laughing at him behind the scenes.
They're like, this guy's an idiot.
He's actually going to do it.
He thinks he's going to go up against Trump.
Oh, I got an idea.
Tell him to wear high heels.
Tell him to wear high heels.
And then don't show him the videos and then send him to PBD on purpose.
This is the point.
If Cenk Uygur comes on this show, I basically let him speak.
We have a little bit of disagreements and arguments, but there's a lot of stuff I could have brought up that we didn't bring up.
Because I'm like, I'm trying to actually talk about solutions and keep things tame and calm.
Patrick Bet-David, he's much more direct, he's a lot stronger on these things than I am with his point of view.
Anybody who knows about his past interviews knows he's not going to let you walk on this one.
He's not going to give you the same leeway that I might.
I think they sabotaged him on purpose.
They brought him to a show and gave him a layup to put a pair of boots on a table.
Oh, come on.
Here we are, friends with some of the people who worked for DeSantis in his campaign.
And they can't even come on the show.
And I'm like, that's weird, man.
Why?
We talked to him, we'd actually help, like, hey, let's work through these issues that you're having and figure out ways you can improve.
Nah, they won't do it.
ian crossland
Yeah, take the boot, cut it open on air with a knife and show you, yeah, it's a cowboy boot.
And it's probably his toes aren't long enough, so it looked like it was bending, but it's still a cowboy boot.
jr majewski
No.
ian crossland
You think he's wearing inserts?
Because some cowboy boots just have big heels.
unidentified
It's a fact.
jr majewski
On my Twitter, I posted a picture of me standing next to Ron DeSantis and a picture of me standing next to Trump and then Trump standing next to DeSantis.
And in all three pictures, Ron DeSantis' height has fluctuated.
And I don't wear boosters.
tim pool
And not just that, when you watch videos of him walking, he's very obviously, one, the way he's walking, high heels, and two, when the foot bends, you can tell that he's wearing high heels.
Someone went to him and said, put the high heels on, you'll look tall, and they're laughing at him, like, I can't believe this idiot's doing it!
And he won't fire these people because they are sabotaging him on purpose.
And this, now, again, the Trump-DeSantis ticket a year and a half ago was unbeatable.
Absolutely.
If Trump announced DeSantis would be the VP, he'd be polling at 52% or something.
ian crossland
Honestly, if DeSantis just bowed down and had humility right now, they'd still be unbeatable.
If you saw him acknowledge the, I don't want to swear on camera, but the last year of his campaign, if he acknowledged how poorly run it was, people would light up.
hannah claire brimelow
I think that there's too much animosity right now for a Trump-DeSantis ticket, and I think part of that has to do with the infrastructures they're both surrounded by, because you would need to merge their teams, or DeSantis would have to abandon everyone he's been working with.
I don't know that that's realistically going to happen.
Maybe it should.
tim pool
So I don't want to force anyone into drama, but why is it that there have been three people who have come on this show who have asked me, why am I being attacked by DeSantis' campaign?
And so, there are individuals who are not hyper-partisan electoral personalities.
Individuals whose careers do not put them in the line of, I'm for Trump, or I'm for... We've had people on the show who are not saying either of those things, and they're like, DeSantis' campaign started attacking me.
And I'm like, yeah, they're trying to destroy his campaign.
They're going scorched earth.
They want to make sure that if in six months, it clearly is Trump, there will not be a recovery period like Ted Cruz had.
Ted Cruz was lying Ted.
And then after the primary, he was lying Ted.
Lie in instead of lying.
jr majewski
That's pretty good.
tim pool
That's the recovery.
jr majewski
That's pretty good insight.
hannah claire brimelow
And his sadness beard.
That was the time.
jr majewski
Well, I can speak to that, too.
Right.
Look what, you know, when when this first all started, I wasn't negative on DeSantis at all.
And I'm known to be a Trump supporter.
unidentified
Right.
jr majewski
But then you had J.D.
Vance come out and say, you know, leave it to Ron DeSantis' poorly run team to attack their former friends.
Right.
And that's exactly what they've done.
tim pool
But see, the thing is, They attacked people who were currently their friends.
I've had people, prominent individuals, say to me, they ask me, like, hey, do you know what's going on?
I'm being attacked by the Santa's people, do you know why?
And I'm like...
I'm like, they're attacking everybody.
And it's just, they're just like, I don't understand, like, I've not said anything bad about him at all.
And I just, I think the idea is, after the primary, they want to make sure that not a single Trump supporter will welcome DeSantis back.
There's no explanation for why some of these personalities are prominent individuals with a lot of followers.
There's no explanation for why they're like, I can't stand to stand to... Why would you attack some of these people?
Why did they start attacking us?
Why did they ban their people from coming on the show?
When Ron loses, there's a recovery period where Trump can say, enough fighting, you know, Ron's a great governor and we're going to welcome him back.
Not anymore, there's not.
jr majewski
He's going to be Rosie O'Donnell.
tim pool
Yeah, exactly.
It is so toxic.
And the high heels thing was the nail in the coffin.
There's no way Trump can be like, I'm going to choose backstabbing high heel Ron with the crackhead PR team.
It's not going to happen.
jr majewski
There's a reason why they don't work for Trump anymore and they deflected over to his team.
ian crossland
DeSantis' crew?
jr majewski
Yeah.
ian crossland
Oh, okay.
jr majewski
I mean, he has some smart people on his team, but... I don't think so.
They're not around anymore, though.
ian crossland
Maybe they're just not wise.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no!
Two potentials.
DeSantis' people are geniuses, and what they're doing is intentionally destroying DeSantis, or they are the stupidest people in the world, and they don't understand they're destroying DeSantis.
Additionally, no matter how you cut it, Ron DeSantis is the dumbest politician in the country right now for hiring.
ian crossland
For not firing them.
tim pool
Look, you can hire bad people, but after the first screw-up, you have a talking to.
After the second screw-up, you start saying, warning, and you put out statements.
Third screw-up, you say, I have removed this person from my staff.
He's not done it!
jr majewski
Especially when your platform is built on the preface that you run a tighter ship than Trump, right?
Trump had all these leaks in the White House, according to DeSantis, and he runs a tight ship in Florida, right?
It's polar to what he's campaigned on.
ian crossland
Yeah, I get the vibe.
Okay, what I was gonna say is, I think Ron strikes me as high intelligence, low wisdom, because he doesn't know how to get his intellect across.
It's poorly managed and poorly integrated, and like, you gotta have humility, dude.
And this obsession with pride of like, oh, they said something mean, get them!
Like, no, you gotta like, roll with it.
Yeah, you said something mean, because I'm a goofball sometimes.
tim pool
That's his team.
ian crossland
It's bled into his persona, unfortunately.
tim pool
You're right.
I like Ron DeSantis.
I think he's done the best job of any governor in Florida, and that's why so many people moved there.
That's why a lot of people are defensive of him.
But that is no excuse for hiring the worst people imaginable, who are setting fires to everything around you, and you being like, this is fine.
At that point, I'm like, this guy has a very serious leadership problem.
Very serious leadership.
And you know what I'm gonna start doing?
Sorry, I can only assume now the accomplishments of Florida are due the legislature, and he's just going, sure, I guess.
And he's bumbling around like Mr. Magoo.
Because where he has direct executive authority, his campaign, he's failed miserably.
When it comes to the politics of Florida, he's stamping what the Florida legislature passes.
And so we give him a lot of credit for it, and for standing up and making statements.
Now I'm just thinking, You know, they're probably just handing him a script and he just says whatever.
And in Florida they want to win, they do, but here they're trying to tank him knowing he can't beat Trump and they don't want him teaming up with Trump so they're sabotaging him.
Or they want him to stay governor of Florida and they don't want him to be president so they're trying to destroy his chances.
I don't know, that's a possibility.
hannah claire brimelow
It's not a great, uh, any of these options are pretty bad to have on your staff, right?
I mean, this is not what you would want to be surrounded by while running a campaign.
jr majewski
Yeah, I mean, but the establishment to Tim's point is evil and they'll, you know, they'll go to the farthest lengths to destroy something that they don't like.
tim pool
Well, people were pointing out, like, Ken Griffin donating to DeSantis, and the immediate assumption is the establishment is teaming up with DeSantis to go against Trump, and I'm kind of like, or they just are sabotaging DeSantis.
They do not want an ascendant Trump personality.
They don't want an heir to the Trump throne.
If, what was everybody saying?
Trump 2024, DeSantis VP, DeSantis 2028.
Not anymore they're not!
DeSantis is done.
I mean, I don't know where he goes after this.
He's termed out of Florida.
Maybe he'll run for the Senate.
ian crossland
So question then, VP Ramaswamy or Kennedy?
tim pool
Ramaswamy.
jr majewski
Ramaswamy.
hannah claire brimelow
I personally want Larry Elder to be VP.
I've got a job writing on it, so you know.
jr majewski
I like Byron Donalds, to be honest.
tim pool
Yeah!
jr majewski
Byron's a good guy.
ian crossland
He's awesome.
jr majewski
I love Byron.
tim pool
Byron's excellent.
ian crossland
He's a really cool dude.
jr majewski
Yeah, stand-up guy.
He's endorsed my campaign, by the way.
But yeah, Byron Donalds is one of the best people I met in D.C.
tim pool
I agree.
jr majewski
Absolutely one of the best people I met.
tim pool
I mean, there's so few people, but I actually met Byron Donalds when he was hanging out with Matt Gaetz, and I'm like, I'm not surprised.
Like, these are good dudes.
ian crossland
Lauren Boebert's office, we interviewed him, it was really cool.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you think that there's any weight to the idea that Trump's gonna feel obligated to pick a female VP?
tim pool
Oh, he better not play this game.
hannah claire brimelow
That's what I do not want him to play this game, but I keep hearing everywhere, no, it's definitely gonna be a woman, it's definitely gonna be a woman, and I do not want that.
It makes me really mad.
ian crossland
Be sure to tell him that.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, as soon as he calls me, I'll be like, if you pick a woman VP, you've lost everyone's confidence.
tim pool
You know, people kept asking us when we're having him on the show, And we know so many people in Trump's circle, they've all said, like, we can figure something out.
We'll talk to him.
He'll probably just say, yes, of course, but we got to go to him.
And we just, we've not coordinated it and tried to make it happen.
I'm not saying Trump is going to give us a time of day.
I'm saying, you know, a lot of people around him are like, no, no, yeah, we can, we can work with him and schedule something.
We've just not done it.
We should probably just finally do it and just get our, like, booking people to be like, can we just arrange this finally?
Because then I can say, you know, Don, Just don't know.
No, no, no Nikki Haley.
ian crossland
Yeah, I think that should let me let me ask you.
jr majewski
I think, you know, what I've learned in politics is things kind of are placated right on purpose.
I think maybe that was something that leaked on the back end to just test the waters for the general public would think and what Twitter would think.
And I think pretty quickly it got, you know, smoshed that, you know, he needed to have a female vice president.
And I think he's I think he's turned the page on that.
tim pool
I don't think Vivek is the perfect candidate.
I think he's the current best option.
You know, in the past, I said Kerry Lake.
But, you know, there were several points that were made.
One, in terms of what is best for Kerry Lake.
Running for Senate, winning in Arizona, and helping fix the states.
We gotta win the states.
But also, some other people pointed out, then you have Trump and Trump basically.
Kerry Lake is a smart, like, No disrespect to Trump, but she is a sharper, articulate Trump.
And so people have said, you need a contrast to that.
And Vivek, in a way, is kind of like Trump, but he's a PR guy.
He is tactful, kind of like how Carrie Lake is.
But in terms of his presence, that's why I kind of feel like he's probably the better option.
hannah claire brimelow
Sometimes I want it to be a VP that is not currently seeking the presidency.
I know that's pretty normal to consider.
That's how we got Kamala Harris, of course.
unidentified
And Pence.
tim pool
Yeah, Pence wasn't running, right?
hannah claire brimelow
Pence wasn't running.
And again, not that Pence was an option.
jr majewski
Pence was forced from the establishment, man.
I mean, that's given.
hannah claire brimelow
But I don't like it becoming too much of a manufacturing line, right?
It's like, well, if you drop out early enough, I'll give you a VP.
I like the idea that there is potentially other perspectives out there that we don't hear on the national stage.
jr majewski
I think Vivek compliments Trump in the fact that they have two totally different leadership styles.
I mean, Trump's a transformational type guy, right?
He sees the big picture.
Vivek tends to get in the details and, you know, they're polar opposites in so many regards.
But personality wise, they do have some similarities.
ian crossland
Yeah, they're both executors, but Trump is the executor, and Ramaswamy is the mastermind.
They're both masterminds, but Ramaswamy is a pure mastermind.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah I mean that's what he said when he was here he was saying you know some personalities just can't mesh well together and I am a personality I've been an executive for so long like I have to be at the front and I think it might be a challenge to be VP under someone else it's not that he's not talented and could do amazing things it's just it's just hard for me to imagine a Trump-Ramaswamy ticket where they're both happy.
ian crossland
I think it's he has a duty to the country I think we all do and if he's called to the position He has to take it.
jr majewski
Trump can persuade him.
I mean, you know, that that's the that's the beauty of the guy.
You know, you sit down with him.
I get it.
unidentified
Right.
jr majewski
So certain personalities clash.
But if it's not obvious that those two could work in cohesion, I mean, just someone who understands leadership theory at a basic minimum can tell that these two guys can work together because they balance one another.
tim pool
I'm just kind of thinking, like, who else could it be?
Seriously, I mean, Kennedy.
jr majewski
Well, that's why I like Byron, though.
hannah claire brimelow
No, I don't think it would be Kennedy.
jr majewski
Now, Kennedy, to your point, that's where I think there would be a personality clash, because I don't think Kennedy's going to take the back seat.
And you have a guy like Byron, who's also technically intelligent, right, with his finance background.
I mean, there's another balance to Trump.
So, I mean, you have to kind of look for that personality.
Subtle differences, but differences that complement.
tim pool
I think Byron, maybe in a couple cycles, would... It's tough.
I don't see him as a VP right now.
Byron Donaldson.
ian crossland
Is he running?
Is he running?
No, he doesn't have any aspirations.
We should have him on the show.
We only interviewed him for like 15 minutes.
He was only on for like 10 or 15 minutes.
jr majewski
Make sure Larry comes with him, his buddy Larry, his advisor.
Those two together are hilarious, man.
ian crossland
I would love to talk to Byron for a couple hours.
tim pool
Vivek seems like...
He could be VP right now.
But again, I don't think he's the perfect candidate.
It's just, I don't know who else there is.
Unless it was Trump Trump.
Which I don't think would be realistic.
As much as I jokingly say, let's just get as many Trumps in federal office as possible.
Let's just, you know... How old is Barron?
Can he run for Congress?
Yeah, he's got to be 25.
Not old enough.
hannah claire brimelow
Barron Trump?
He hasn't graduated high school yet.
I mean, he's got a minute.
tim pool
I'll make an exception to put more Trumps in government.
Just get them all in there because this is all... First, if he runs for class president, then he will run for class president.
unidentified
He's 17.
jr majewski
He'll be 17.
We're going to get accused of promoting oligarchy on the show, right?
ian crossland
But I don't care.
tim pool
Trump royal family because it pisses off the machine.
And then we'll figure out.
It's like the Simpsons when, you know, when they had the lizard problem.
And so they were like, they'll get dogs.
And then how do you do with the dogs?
And then they're like, we'll get, you know, they increase, keep getting the animals bigger and bigger until they're finally like, we'll have gorillas go and kill the animal.
And they're like, but then they have a gorilla problem.
And Skinner's, I think it was Skinner, he's like, no, that's the best part.
When winter comes, they simply freeze to death.
So it's just like, we'll get all the Trumps in there.
ian crossland
Let them just, Trump it out.
tim pool
Trump it out, man!
And then, you know, we'll figure it out later.
ian crossland
I thought you made a good point that Ramaswamy's not the perfect candidate, because I think a lot of people might right now be looking for perfection, and if they don't see it, they're gonna turn away and vote for what they think is safe.
But you're never gonna find perfection.
You've gotta go with...
You got to take risks.
jr majewski
And to counter that, though, if you look at some of the folks that are anti-Vivek, that are in like MAGA, you know, in the MAGA mindset, right?
They're attacking Vivek because they believe he's too perfect.
They think he's Obama 2.0.
I mean, there's a lot of different theories on that.
But at the end of the day, like it's deeds, not words.
Right.
And if you look at what Vivek has done for his personal life, for his family, you know, for the state he lives in, his community.
I mean, you don't have any Vivek Ramaswamy employees jumping out saying this guy's a terrible leader.
tim pool
Vivek effectively said he wants to cut funding to Israel.
Now, not as blunt, he says he wants to get them sustainable to the point, through U.S.
support, to where we don't need to be supporting them anymore.
Which is the intelligent way of saying, like, hey, we should not be... That's bold, because, you know, Nikki Haley is like, ahhh, and she loses her mind.
hannah claire brimelow
My objection to Ronald Swamney, to be honest, is, you know, again, I'm very lucky to be in a position to ask him this, but he has a more flexible view on H-1B visas than I do.
I feel like I would prefer someone to take a stronger stance on border and border security and reducing even legal immigration into the country as well as illegal immigration, but that is not to say that he couldn't do amazing things.
I am not convinced this is the cycle.
I don't think he would like being VP to Trump, but He has incredible potential, and I think it's better to have a deep bench of people who can do good things for the country.
Like, we always talk about it like it's just the presidency and the VP, but it's really not.
There are tons of cabinet positions, there are lots of things that we could have talented, intellectual, and accomplished people.
Step into and really benefit the American public.
ian crossland
I get the Obama criticism.
They feel like Vivek is Obama 2.0.
I've thought that a couple times.
I've even said it on the show, Vivek the snake.
I called him a couple times and it's like I feel that like he's an orator.
He's willing to bend with the wind like a reed even to the point maybe where he'll snap like Obama did and then the big business takes over.
But that's why I like seeing him in a VP position because he'll watch it happen all around him and he won't have to be the one getting co-opted and he'll see how Don like kind of I mean, that's what he communicated to us.
hannah claire brimelow
He didn't want to be someone watching.
He wants to be at the head of the organization.
And so, again, like, maybe if, you know, he doesn't progress with the presidential race, maybe he should run for governor of Ohio.
Maybe he should step into a leadership role on a smaller scale.
And then, you know, he's so young.
He has so much potential to do a lot of things.
If he doesn't run this cycle, I'm sure he'll run again.
tim pool
Who do the Democrats have in terms of youth?
AOC?
hannah claire brimelow
And like Max Frost, that's like the guy they're always talking about.
ian crossland
He's like the youngest member of Congress.
tim pool
Yeah, but Max Frost, you said?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I think that's his name.
Out of Florida.
tim pool
He's not the same level of AOC.
ian crossland
No, not yet.
tim pool
Vivek, like, stepped onto the stage and hit it out of the ballpark and skyrocketed in terms of just like notoriety, notability.
You know, the things he was saying, the conversations he was having, the way he was having them, inspired a lot of people very, very quickly and resulted in this viral, like, notability.
jr majewski
Yeah.
The guy's loved in Ohio.
Like I said, man, I met him before he even had political aspirations.
He was just coming around, talking about... I mean, he was a libertarian.
You know, he said it.
tim pool
Some people arguing have made the claim that he wants to be a senator out of Ohio.
I think he's denied that.
jr majewski
Yeah, I mean, there's been people advocating for it, you know, because of the Senate race in Ohio right now is highly contested.
So, you know, I think Vivek standing out the way he has during his presidential run has drawn a lot more attention to him.
ian crossland
When Gavin Newsom went over to China, I got the vibe like, oh, they're running Gavin Newsom.
That's what's gonna happen.
hannah claire brimelow
I can't identify with Democrats at all because if I were like, this guy wants to be the president, so he went to China and that's how I know he wants to be the president.
No, no, no.
Tour the US.
Leave California and come see, you know, Industrial towns in the Midwest that were devastated by manufacturing leaving.
Go to West Virginia and talk to people who are affected by the opioid crisis.
Like, if you want to be president of the United States, shouldn't you talk to Americans?
Why would you be like, I will go overseas.
This is a great idea.
I just I can't relate to it.
jr majewski
Go spank little boys while I'm playing basketball.
ian crossland
I've never seen a governor go speak with the president of China before.
Have you?
I've never seen that before.
tim pool
It's weird, huh?
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
That was highly unorthodox.
unidentified
Yeah.
Novel.
hannah claire brimelow
You know, the great nation of California needs representation in China.
tim pool
I don't see Biden being the nominee.
I don't see him being the candidate for the Democrats.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Because look at the polls right now.
Cenk Uygur said he's only running basically to bring awareness to the fact that Biden's going to lose.
And that he's like, I have to run because people don't understand Biden will lose.
He bought the domain Bidenisgoingtolose.com.
ian crossland
Oh, that's hilarious.
tim pool
And he said Republicans should want Biden in the race.
And I'm like, I agree.
hannah claire brimelow
And then Dean Phillips out of Minnesota launched his campaign to challenge Biden after pretending he wasn't going to for a minute.
It's kind of interesting that we have an open Democrat who's like, I think I can maybe run a race.
I had thought when RFK decided to run as an independent, perhaps there was pressure from the DNC being like, you have to get out of here.
We can't have anyone else.
But obviously that message hasn't trickled down to the rest of the rank and file.
If we have someone out of Minnesota saying, well, I might throw my hat in the ring after we've already have an independent candidate challenging essentially Biden.
I know they pretend like it's both Trump and Biden.
It's really not.
I mean, no one wants Biden to run.
This is what's happening.
ian crossland
I wasn't here when Cenk was on the show because I was in Miami, but I was thinking about progressivism.
That's a term that gets thrown out.
I'm progressive.
Think about progressivism, and I'd love to talk to Cenk to talk to you about this directly too, Cenk.
Progress means to move forward.
So you can progress towards a cliff and then walk off the cliff.
Where are you progressing?
That's a big part of being progressive.
What are you progressing to?
And also, how are you progressing?
Are you progressing as a wild mob, disorganized?
Or are you progressing in an organized fashion?
tim pool
They're marching towards the cliff.
ian crossland
And that needs to be discussed, debated, and observed, because that's a big part of it.
You can't just say you're progressive and expect enemies.
unidentified
So you don't want to be regressive, but unless... Well, it depends.
ian crossland
If you're about to walk off a cliff, you do want to be regressive.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Or maybe you want to turn left.
ian crossland
What's the transgressive?
tim pool
Yes, we're the transgressive.
Is that the right word?
We don't want to go forward.
The forward is the cliff.
We don't want to go backwards.
That's too far, but we want to go kind of back and to the left.
You know, we should go back a little bit because the left has gone nuts, but we mostly just want to turn left.
ian crossland
Maybe degressive?
tim pool
Or turn right.
hannah claire brimelow
I want to go back and to the right.
I was going to say, I will only join this movement, the transgressive movement, if we're going back and to the right.
I'm into the transgressive movement then, but back and to the left sounds equally as bad because ultimately it'll be like, why are we going back?
We should go forward again!
And it'll just horseshoe back to where it was going.
tim pool
We do have the 20s in the chat for what Ian had said, because it is correct.
The left seems to be progressive for the sake of progress, but progress for the sake of progress is blind.
They're just saying, just keep doing it, keep doing it, why not, why not, and you're like, eventually, you're like, hey, there's a naked man dancing in front of children, and they're like, progress!
And you're like, okay, but this is not what we thought we were progressing to.
ian crossland
Transgress!
tim pool
We want Star Trek, and like, you know, Replicators, and Cold Fusion.
And Graphene, not naked men dancing for children, okay?
That's not progress, that's something weird.
Actually, I think that's transgressive.
ian crossland
Amen, brother.
Amen, sister, that's what I meant.
tim pool
No, I think progress in the relative sense, like what would Americans view as progress, it would be Space travel, colonizing other planets.
When you ask someone, what do you think the future looks like?
These are the things they envision.
They envision, oh, people aren't hungry anymore, people aren't starving, food replicators, spaceships.
That's what they think of when they think of us advancing and progressing.
What's happened is the left has hijacked progress, and now they've got naked dudes dancing in front of children.
And I'm like, okay, that's veering off the course.
So we're driving, here's a better way to put it, we're driving on this road, and you've got a rocky cliffside to your right, and a sheer cliffside straight drop to your left, and they've turned the car to the left, and we're like, guys, if we keep this angle up, we're going off the edge, we gotta correct it and go back to the dreams of what we used to focus on.
ian crossland
For a moment, let us Congress, meaning move together, And turn around, and then we'll go to space.
That's funny.
So we define where we're going.
Very clearly, paint the picture, Chank, and everyone that wants to be progressive or consider themselves, paint the picture of where you want to end up.
tim pool
I like this word, gress.
ian crossland
Yes.
unidentified
Currently, we should egress.
ian crossland
We're about to egress to Super Chats.
But also, after you explain where we're going, and you outline it in such a vivid way that people can picture it, then explain how we're going to get there piece by piece.
And you'll have a lot of people following you.
tim pool
Yeah, see, the left is mostly just, we should just do what we do for whatever reason.
ian crossland
Which is the military war machine from 1913, Federal Reserve, banking.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, it's the never enough party, right?
They say, you know, we've accomplished this progressive goal, but now we have to push it.
And there's no reason why.
It's just continuing to push boundaries forward and forward.
That allows people with really nefarious agendas to step in and say, I'm benefiting from this dissolve into chaos.
jr majewski
It's anarchy disguised as progressivism in so many different ways.
I mean, true progressivism, like you're explaining, is realistic.
It has reasonable goals and you know where you're going with them.
I mean, it's just total destruction.
serge du preez
That's what transgressive means, actually.
It means to just violate the social norms or regular norms that we're doing.
So really, in reality, they are transgressive because that's the definition of the word.
They're not progressing towards anything that's meaningful.
And the goalposts are always moving, too.
ian crossland
So transgressive is like swerving the wheel left and right as you're going.
Stop it.
Oh, Serge has got the details.
serge du preez
Yeah, it's like, it has to do with, like, breaking social boundaries, or moral boundaries.
Yeah, so transgressive would be to, like, end, like, revolting against moral and social boundaries, which is literally what the progressive movement today is saying that they're doing, so.
jr majewski
Creating generations of violence.
tim pool
Oh yeah, transgressive is involving a violation of moral or social boundaries.
unidentified
Yeah.
serge du preez
Yeah, exactly.
So that's what I was saying, like, they literally are transgressive, because they always tell me that what they're trying to do is, like, you know, subvert the thing.
So it's like, you're not progressive.
Progressive is the wrong word, and I don't know.
tim pool
They're transgressive.
serge du preez
Transgressive, quite literally.
ian crossland
And arguably aggressive, unfortunately.
Very aggressive, very aggressive.
hannah claire brimelow
Extremely aggressive.
tim pool
Ian has just now stated every word using the base gress.
ian crossland
And if you have yet to ingress, do it.
It's in prayer.
You'll go within yourself, feel God's energy.
tim pool
You should write a song that will use all these gress words.
ian crossland
Gress on, gressor.
tim pool
Yes.
I guess.
Okay, how about we pop over to Super Chats?
ian crossland
I'm so happy.
hannah claire brimelow
We progress over to Super Chats?
jr majewski
Don't be gressy.
tim pool
No, we ingress?
ian crossland
Yeah, we are.
tim pool
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Alright, where we at?
Blave Kai just says, always remember Biden's last action in Afghanistan was to drone strike a father and his seven kids while he was delivering water to his neighborhood.
ian crossland
That's great.
tim pool
Just good work on that one, Joey Boynton.
ian crossland
Just before, after he issued the surrender.
tim pool
That was probably after.
Alpha Turkey says, Hey Tim, it's unfair for you to call Gen Z lazy for not wanting to get out of bed to work when your generation didn't have to deal with the possibility of a Disney executive under your bed.
It's a fair point.
Kathleen Kennedy was not under my bed.
That's a reference to South Park, by the way.
Carmen's like, Mom, can you check to see if Kathleen Kennedy's under my bed?
unidentified
And then, uh, I don't want to spoil the rest for you.
tim pool
No, but I think, um, I think Millennials are lazier than Gen Z. I think it's important to say, you know, I, I, I want to make sure I have this, I say this quite a bit.
Gen Z actually is, I think, in many ways based, and Millennials suck.
ian crossland
I think a lot of it is that they aren't incentivized, and so the momentum's not there.
They wake up to this, like, what's the point kind of thing that I didn't get in the 90s and the 80s.
I was like, I'm going to be a rock star, I'm going to be an actor, I'm going to be famous, make a bunch of money and save the world.
hannah claire brimelow
I think a lot of millennials were trained to just wait for instructions, you know?
And so now that's what happens.
They're just waiting for someone to tell them what they're supposed to be doing and they're frustrated because they're not satisfied with that way of living.
tim pool
And what happens with Gen Z is they catch the beginning of the influencer age in which you have to build your own platform.
So millennials were like, tell me what to do, mom and dad.
Tell me what to do, teacher.
Tell me what to do, professor.
And that's their whole life.
Then they get out of college and they're like, government, please govern me harder, daddy.
Whereas Gen Z are in this period where tons of people are self-made, young people are self-made millionaires.
And they're like, I gotta hustle and I gotta make a page and I gotta do these influencer stuff.
ian crossland
Now, not all that is good, but I think that creates a little bit more of an entrepreneurial and independent spirit among Gen Z. Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of communists in Gen Z. I wonder if that's natural generational, that you breed generations of workers and then generations of leaders that then build businesses for the workers.
unidentified
It reminds me of... Nature versus nurture is what it is.
hannah claire brimelow
See, it reminds me of like year of the, I don't remember what it's called in China, I guess the zodiacs, but like the year of the, is it the dragon is the year that everyone wants to have a kid.
There's one year where a lot of people are like, this is, this is the best thing ever.
And I was listening to some report from NPR where it's like, the children who are born in this desirable year actually do perform better on tests.
They do tend to have higher education, you know, things like that, these metrics.
tim pool
But that's because they're dragons.
hannah claire brimelow
And that's the thing, is it because they are told constantly, you're successful, you're special?
serge du preez
Both.
hannah claire brimelow
Or is it because people just say, oh yes, the dragon, that is very important, you must stand out.
unidentified
I think they're literally dragons.
serge du preez
I think I'm a tiger.
Personally.
hannah claire brimelow
You think they're literally dragons?
serge du preez
Yeah, I'm a monkey, you're the monkey.
tim pool
I think I'm a tiger.
serge du preez
Nice.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't know what I am.
ian crossland
That was my high school animal, the tigers, the false tigers.
Tiger Falls, what's up?
I don't know what I am.
Somebody tell me, I'm April 2nd, 1979.
serge du preez
It's per year, so whatever 1979 would be.
So I'm 92, so monkey.
ian crossland
Chinese?
serge du preez
Yeah, Chinese.
jr majewski
1986, Tiger.
unidentified
Tiger.
hannah claire brimelow
And it means each of these years come with different attributes.
I mean, I find this really interesting, right?
ian crossland
I'm the goat.
Well, what's up?
You're 79.
jr majewski
I'm 79, man.
ian crossland
What's up, goat?
serge du preez
Nice.
ian crossland
You're also a goat.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
That's what I'm talking about.
serge du preez
What's yours, Hannah-Claire?
hannah claire brimelow
I think I'm the pig or something.
ian crossland
What year are you?
unidentified
95.
hannah claire brimelow
I have no idea what it is.
serge du preez
95 is the blind mole rat.
ian crossland
Well, that's... You are the pig.
tim pool
Yeah, you're a pig.
hannah claire brimelow
I was gonna make a Camp Possible reference.
I didn't know if any of the boys in this room would get it.
ian crossland
Sometimes translated as the boar.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, that's me.
tim pool
I'm a boar.
93 is the rooster.
unidentified
Dude.
serge du preez
Roosters are cool.
tim pool
Yeah, roosters are based.
We got all the rooster boys.
we got too many, so we created an outside area.
So it's outside of Chicken City, it's not the Chicken City suburbs.
And we've, it's the area that's fenced off, and there's a little house.
There's like a little makeshift house, so they can go in there and be safe from the wind.
And there's like 12 roosters, and they're just outside exposed, not going in.
They're just so dumb.
And they've just huddled together for warmth.
I'm like, guys, go in your little shelter.
hannah claire brimelow
Stop telling me what to do.
I'm an independent chicken.
tim pool
I rallied them earlier.
I rallied them.
For those that were listening to Chicken City, ChickenCity.com.
I think ChickenCityLive.com.
I rallied them and made sure they knew.
That these young men, these brave men, are the front line to protect the city of Chicken City from predators, raccoons and foxes.
They gotta get through these brave roosters before they can make it into the city where the civilians are at.
serge du preez
Wow.
ian crossland
A rousing speech!
tim pool
That's right.
ian crossland
That's right.
One year in the future.
jr majewski
Put them through the struggle.
tim pool
Alright, Steven says, Congratulations!
At Blave Kaiser, you are first!
That's right.
He was first.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, Tim, look at you out here making the January 6th hearing and now Trump's trial.
Before you know it, you'll be on trial yourself.
Shout out Phil's cameo.
Yep!
You know, it's kind of a weird thing.
Like, I didn't start doing this so that clips of me would end up at January 6 hearings or in Trump's ballot hearing trial, but it is going to be hilarious in like a hundred years and they're like, kids, open up the archive and let's watch a clip from Timcast IRL, a political show, and we'll learn about the politics of the era.
And that's like, I don't know, me and Ian saying stupid nonsense things and making jokes about fat pigs and like, It'll be like insulting Liz Chang.
ian crossland
When President Poole was a child, he started building computers at the age of 12.
hannah claire brimelow
It'll be funny because it's like there's so much advertisement, I wonder anyone else like who was in the courtroom that day or whatever, if they're gonna be like, I never heard of this show, it's kind of interesting.
Tim Katz, like how many listeners do we have tonight?
unidentified
Like what show is this?
hannah claire brimelow
In the courtroom.
tim pool
All the news articles are right about it.
No, yeah.
In the future, they're not going to mention President Poole.
They're going to be talking in class about, you know, former presidents appearing on the show, and then one student's going to be like, how come we don't hear about Tim Poole in any other history books?
I'm like, oh, that's because shortly after this, he got into a van and went to live down by the river.
That's how it'll, that's how it'll turn out.
hannah claire brimelow
The avatar.
He was gone.
tim pool
That's right.
jr majewski
Chicken City.
tim pool
For a hundred years.
Yeah, where I envision myself ending up is like an old 65-year-old man on the top of a mountain with a bunch of chickens and, you know, a nice little RV or something to live in.
Self-sustainable and, you know, a pointy stick.
And when someone shows up being like, we'd like to talk to you.
Get off my property!
Get away from me, you crazy people!
I don't want to have anything to do with you!
Leave me alone!
And they'll be like, wow, this guy went crazy.
It's like, yes, he did.
All right, where are we at?
Voice of the People says, since they played that clip of you and Kash Patel in court, does this mean everyone must be removed from trial?
Remember Juror 77?
They're all far-right extremists now.
That's right!
Yeah, Juror 77, remember that in Trump's case?
He had once seen an episode of Timcast, and therefore they said he's biased.
Gotta go!
Well, now, clearly, after everyone in that trial saw that clip of me, Of course they're fans.
hannah claire brimelow
Does this mean that I will never have to serve jury duty?
Yeah.
Like, oh, well, occasionally I'm on this podcast.
tim pool
Actually, yes.
hannah claire brimelow
Get out of here.
tim pool
No, no, but yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
hannah claire brimelow
That's so, well, I guess I can never use an excuse to call it work.
tim pool
I believe it is fair to say that if you went to jury duty, if you got summoned and you showed up and they asked you, be like, I am a political personality and pundit and writer for a big publication.
I appear on a live show every night.
They'd be like, you're dismissed.
hannah claire brimelow
I'd be like, no, you're not that.
Get out of here.
You think you're famous.
tim pool
Well, because you read the news every single day.
I think that right there is like, for my job, I do nothing but read the news.
It would be impossible for me to not know about what's going on in this case.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I think so.
ian crossland
Yeah, and it's like one aspect.
Well, no, it's more than one aspect of the news.
hannah claire brimelow
That's crazy.
I mean, never served jury duty.
serge du preez
If I get asked, that's what I'm definitely going to say.
tim pool
No, this is the problem.
You want to be on jury duty.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I'm not against it.
It's just like a crazy thing to think, you know, when you make choices in life.
tim pool
The problem is...
The people who aren't smart enough to get off jury duty are the ones who get jury duty.
serge du preez
Yeah, true.
tim pool
I always wanted to go on jury duty.
I've never got summoned for jury duty.
I'd love to be there and be like, not guilty.
And they'll be like, but sir, he had the marijuana on him.
It's like, we have it.
I'd be like, not guilty!
And they'd be like...
But he confessed!
I'd be like, I don't think you heard me.
hannah claire brimelow
Now you're definitely not getting called for jury duty.
tim pool
Oh, for sure.
You know the, um, was that 12 Angry Men or whatever that movie was where like all the jurors and they're trying to convince them?
I would be the one guy and they'd be like, well, we all think this guy's guilty of possession.
I'd be like, not guilty.
And they'd be like...
They've recovered the evidence, he's admitted to having it, he's made a silly excuse of like, not guilty, and then one by one, the only argument I have is, it shouldn't be illegal.
And then I'll be like, so I'll just keep saying it over and over again until y'all say not guilty.
That's why I'd like to be on jury duty.
You know?
hannah claire brimelow
Now you never can!
Like, this is really blowing my mind!
tim pool
Now I never can!
hannah claire brimelow
I'm never gonna be able to serve on a jury!
ian crossland
When you're a strong feign weakness.
tim pool
All you have to do, if you never want to serve jury duty, is say, a simple sentence.
If ever selected for jury duty, I will nullify in every circumstance.
Done.
ian crossland
I like jury nullification.
It should be used more.
tim pool
But they'll arrest you.
There's been activists outside of courts advocating for jury nullification and they arrest you for it because they're like, you can't do this!
ian crossland
But the jurors themselves can do it and they won't get messed with?
tim pool
So it's interesting because yes, you as the jury have ultimate power in deciding whether or not someone is guilty, but what they do is they'll say, you are not allowed.
They'll be like, you must disregard your personal feelings.
The only question that matters is, so I'll give you an example, Illinois.
Two houses.
One family was asked to watch over their neighbor's house.
Neighbors went on vacation.
It was a small town.
The police knew that this family was on vacation.
The kid went in the back door, opened the fridge to steal a beer.
He was like 18 or something.
I said, kid, he's a man.
Cops driving by saw the light on, knowing the family wasn't there.
Approached the house.
Freeze!
Ah, you're under arrest.
What are you doing?
And he's like, ah, you're like, you're robbing this house.
When it went to court, he said the families were all like, we don't care.
They took a beer.
We told them they could watch the house.
And they're like, nope, it's burglary.
It's theft.
And then a judge was like, there's a mandatory sentence for this.
It doesn't matter what you think or what the state is prosecuting.
So then he said, we'll go to trial then.
At trial, they were like, it doesn't matter to the jury what you think is right.
What matters is, was the law broken?
He did not have permission to go in and take from the refrigerator, which is burglary, which is theft.
So he must be found guilty.
If you agree with those facts, you must find him guilty.
And they went, I guess he's right.
They could have said, no, not guilty.
ian crossland
Because it's a poor execution of the law, so you nullify the case.
tim pool
Yes.
And the judge, apparently something happened where the judge was like, I'm not sending this kid to prison over this.
Are you insane?
And then the prisons were like, we are not accepting this person.
Are you insane?
And there's like, just, it's, Illinois is an evil place.
I'll put it that way.
I'm probably like butchering the story.
It's been 20 years, but that's like the gist of it.
That everyone was just like, why is this guy going through the system this way?
The jurors were like, why are we convicting this guy?
And everyone's like, well, but you have to.
But the reality was the jurors could have been like, I don't care what you say.
I don't care what you think, he's not guilty.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I feel like it's weird to be in a circumstance where you're like, okay, suspend all of your values and make a decision.
Like, how could you possibly separate yourself from that, actually?
ian crossland
That's like being a judge.
I was spending time with a girl that has been studying, Lauren Day Laguna, what's up, for getting her, she passed the bar and has studied law, and the impartiality is fascinating of being a judge.
You're just like, I know the law, that is a violation of it, continue.
Stop.
You're violating it.
Stop.
Continue.
It doesn't matter what you think, what you feel.
The knowledge is present.
hannah claire brimelow
I get that from being a judge, but for a juror, it seems impossible to ask.
tim pool
That guy, Sal Roca, says, Greetings from Fremont, Ohio, Tim.
We love you here and we have JR's back in his bid to be our rep.
Make Northwest Ohio great again.
Awesome.
Right on.
Oh, I didn't even mention it.
Luke Rutkowski had me out to tactical training.
Twice.
ian crossland
by Jesus Christ more swole and running sub-five-second drills, rifle-pistol drills.
We did knife practice and then we did a lot of shooting and stuff.
And what's great about it is once you do it, once you start to train, you don't have to think about it anymore.
You just are able to react in those situations.
That's, and it's kind of like, I was like, Oh, I don't want to go back and talk about world war three and all this crap.
But it's like, what I'm doing is I'm training.
It's like tactical training for my mind.
jr majewski
Muscle memory.
ian crossland
Yeah.
And so this, the metaphor of doing both the weapons training and the knowledge training of knowing about this horror is like, I don't have to think about it now that I know I can just react to the system.
But I highly recommend tactical training and having some weapons training if you have an opportunity.
tim pool
All right, Paul Tascolo says, new theory. When a 2024 Trump victory is apparent,
Democrats will admit they did steal the election from Trump in 2020,
and therefore he can't be elected in 2024 because it would mean he'd be elected for a third term.
Well, what they would say is you can't get elected a third time.
Not term.
But yeah.
Definitely not gonna happen, but funny.
Wilpo IRL says, Kennedy is going to win against Nikki Haley and Dean Phillips.
Trump is going to spend the week of the convention in house arrest.
Biden can't walk.
How is he going to run?
ian crossland
Haha!
tim pool
The election is the dark horse election.
It would be really funny if just like two months before the election some random person no one's ever heard of just appears and just gets all the support.
ian crossland
I was picturing like they give him like a trophy at the end of the at the end of the track and they're like okay you guys gotta run whoever gets that's gonna be president and they're like literally just comes down to you gotta run for president.
jr majewski
Well we know who would trip and fall over their own feet.
ian crossland
Dude, we need a strong commander, man.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, we do.
jr majewski
Trump's the only guy, man, I'm telling you.
I mean, I think we all agree with that, but he's absolutely the guy that we need right now.
We need to cauterize a lot of things, and he's the match that's going to do it.
I firmly believe it.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
William Trash says, Tim and Ian, my girlfriend's dog Leo was put down today.
He would have been 14 in January.
She would really appreciate it if you guys could say a few words.
He was a good boy.
Leo wasn't just a good boy.
He was the best of boys and we mourn his passing for every good boy is a best friend.
ian crossland
Leo's spirit is still here witnessing you and he will be for a while and then he'll go off and he'll be back with you.
He's going to evolve too.
He's going to come back and inhabit something greater.
unidentified
Thank you.
ian crossland
All right, well.
tim pool
Sorry to hear, William.
Sorry to hear.
But condolences.
All right, Riding with Ryan says, I saw the movie We Were Soldiers as a kid.
Pretty young for the movie, but not too young.
I've grown up strongly against war.
Yeah, how about Saving Private Ryan?
serge du preez
Yeah, that's a good one.
tim pool
Is that brutal enough?
Platoon?
ian crossland
Platoon's pretty brutal too.
hannah claire brimelow
Full Metal Jacket.
tim pool
Full Metal Jacket.
Yeah.
ian crossland
Apocalypse Now.
tim pool
Just have your six-year-old kids watch Full Metal Jacket.
I'm kidding.
Nobody says anything like, okay, I guess.
jr majewski
They'll think basic training school until they get there.
tim pool
Uh, Total Recall.
Have your kids all watch Total Recall.
The original one, not the remake, the original one.
When his eyes are about to explode from his head, and the lady has three boobs.
unidentified
Yep.
serge du preez
Don't make him like they used to.
tim pool
All right, all right.
Ben says protests happening in Minneapolis started at 6 p.m.
Central Time.
They were chanting, from the river to the sea, we will never be free.
Is that what they're- how do you even chant that?
serge du preez
You will never be free?
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Well, they chant, from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.
There's like, there's a rhythm to it, right?
From the river to the sea, we will never be free.
Is that how you do it?
B?
Extend it?
hannah claire brimelow
There must be... I don't know if it's perfectly paraphrased here.
unidentified
Yeah, we will never be free, I don't know about that.
ian crossland
We will be free.
tim pool
We will never be free?
serge du preez
Yeah, I don't know why you'd say that.
I don't know why you'd probably say that.
I'm sure they're being misquoted, but who knows?
Maybe not.
tim pool
Jason Barger says, I think war should be put up to a vote from the people.
And if you vote in favor of war, you get put at the front of the line for conscription.
serge du preez
Agreed!
tim pool
Everyone would then vote against war every single time.
Every time.
jr majewski
Well, technically, if our representatives listen to their constituents and the president actually followed the rules, then we would have that mechanism.
tim pool
Yeah.
Well, you could also, here's the choices.
If you support war, if you vote in favor of it, you're conscripted frontline infantry.
If you vote against it, you voted against it, congratulations, you don't got to fight or you can abstain.
And what would happen is if you really do want the war but don't want to fight, you just don't vote.
And then maybe the people who do fight and want war will vote for it and then they will win the vote.
So it's still possible for there to be war in certain circumstances without the majority of people voting for it.
But I think overwhelmingly what would happen is the no's would be 80%.
jr majewski
Or the Democrats would steal the election.
tim pool
The Democrats would just rig, we're going to war!
World War III again!
unidentified
And then the Republicans would be like, slow down there Democrats.
tim pool
And they'll go to the speed limit and do the same thing.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, shout out all my fellow handymen.
Yeah, it's funny.
That's funny.
The handymen are billionaires with private jets because they're the only ones who know how to fix things and no one else does.
ian crossland
Dude, Raymond G. Stanley truly is handy.
tim pool
And Randy Marsh is like, if you fix my stove, I'll teach you geology.
I have a PhD.
It's a completely worthless profession in terms of day-to-day living.
What do geologists do right now?
serge du preez
Maybe they make some money, like, surveying, I'm imagining.
tim pool
Well, I know that there are some that they do, uh...
They get aerial photographs.
They look for minerals, veins, and things like that.
They know where to find them and why.
But I mean like in terms of actual geological research, what do they do?
hannah claire brimelow
A lot of geologists that I know work in the petroleum industry.
That's where their background is because of science.
I couldn't say.
I just say I wanted to date a car guy because then I never had to deal with my car again, you know?
Like having someone in your life who is practical and can actually fix things is great.
tim pool
Boggarts IT says 60 of 66 credits 30k in debt no degree because I failed college algebra three times now running my own phone repair business and could use that 30k Yep, I just want to mention something as a total aside because this person's name was Bogart Do you guys know what a boggart is from Harry Potter?
ian crossland
What is it like a like a witch?
tim pool
It's not a witch like a troll in the in the in the woods in the woods a bar Yeah, those are the things that take the shape of your worst fear and Everyone's right now saying what he's talking about.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
No hold on like this.
I was thinking about this recently There's a classic reference.
hannah claire brimelow
What do you mean?
You don't get it?
tim pool
Yeah, it's Harry Potter, man.
But this is important because in the movie, in the book, it's like the teacher, he looks at it and turns into the moon because he's a werewolf and he's scared of that or whatever.
And then I was just thinking about it and I'm like, the concept created by JK Rowling is really stupid because it's impossible.
You know why?
Do you know what every person would see if a manifestation of their worst fear appeared before them?
serge du preez
A lot of people in a crowd.
tim pool
Their dead kids.
Their dead wife, their dead husband, their dead child.
The greatest fear of the average person is not bees or clowns.
It is staring at the dead body of their loved one.
serge du preez
Yeah.
True.
tim pool
And I'm like, oh, so that was a weird idea.
But anyway, I just like, Boggart reminded me of this thing I was thinking about, and I'm like...
But then actually, apparently that was in the book.
That like, I guess it was like, uh, Ron's mom.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
Ron's mom saw her kids.
tim pool
Dead.
hannah claire brimelow
Which was...
ian crossland
Dead.
hannah claire brimelow
Very sad, right?
And also when they do it in the book, you have to remember they're like, you know, I don't even know, middle school age, high school age children.
So the fears are very different.
I think Ron's fear was getting yelled at by essentially his mom or something like that.
ian crossland
Fear is an interesting word because there's probably different kinds of fear.
I was up really high, like 28 stories and out on a balcony and I was like, whoa.
Oh, push couldn't, like that weird feeling of like getting, that fear of the heights is different than the fear of losing a loved one, like that terror.
But it's similar, but it's like it's hitting different areas of my body.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I get what you mean.
tim pool
Yeah, different kinds of fear.
Is there a list of the seven different fears or something, like the different love?
ian crossland
Oh, that's awesome, that's funny.
tim pool
Because they're, it's true.
Like the fear I feel when I see like a wasp flying towards me is a totally different feeling from the fear of like when war is about to start.
Like, the feeling that I got when they announced the personnel deployments of Be Careful With Troops and the two carrier groups going to the Mediterranean, it's like a sinking feeling of dread.
But then when I see a wasp, it's like a shock where I'm just like, ah!
Like an adrenaline rush, but I'm not...
Really scared, it's more of like a bleh!
You know what I mean?
ian crossland
Apparently there are three types of fear, main types.
Primal, irrational, and rational.
unidentified
No.
ian crossland
So the war type would be irrational.
It would be rational fear to fear war, whereas my fear of standing up high on a balcony is irrational.
Or maybe it's primal.
tim pool
No, that's not irrational.
Irrational fear is like phobia.
It's like, oh, it's a clown!
Oh, I'm terrified!
That's irrational.
ian crossland
And primal would be... Bees?
tim pool
Something that could kill you?
Snakes?
jr majewski
Something that induces fight or flight, probably.
tim pool
Yeah, so there are things, like when cats see cucumbers, that's primal fear.
Like, they're clearly not scared of the cucumber, but... I think it could be a snake.
Because cats evolved to be alert when they see something that looks like a snake, and it's helped them survive, it's more primal.
Rational is like, a bee will sting me, I will die.
And so I am afraid of that.
Irrational is, ah, it's a clown run!
That's just a guy in a costume, why are you scared of that?
ian crossland
When I'm up high and I get that fear of the falling off the edge, I wonder if that's primal, because like some ancient ancestor fell from great heights and it's in my DNA or something?
No, no, no, no.
tim pool
Because the humans who survived didn't fall.
And so the humans who are more likely to be afraid of heights were more likely to survive.
So now within you, it's ingrained.
But in terms of the different types of fear, I'm saying like, you get jump scares.
You turn a movie on and then the ghost goes, boo!
And you're like, ah!
ian crossland
Primal fear.
tim pool
That's not primal fear.
ian crossland
Stuff jumping out at you?
tim pool
No, bro.
I'm talking about, you know, there's like Eros and Phobos or whatever.
That's not the same thing as you're describing.
ian crossland
No, this is not.
The Greeks have the ten kinds of love.
tim pool
That's what I'm talking about.
ian crossland
But this is like three types of psychological fear.
tim pool
Because there's rational and irrational love as well.
Some people irrationally love inanimate objects and they should not.
You know what I mean?
That's totally different from what I'm trying to say.
ian crossland
This is a great topic.
This would be well worth diving into.
unidentified
It is.
ian crossland
It's interesting.
jr majewski
My biggest fear is a geriatric president.
Well, you got it.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm scared to live in America right now.
tim pool
Living in a constant nightmare.
jr majewski
Yeah.
tim pool
You open the cabinet, the boggart comes out, and it's Joe Biden.
ian crossland
Dude, I'm joking.
That's the best part.
tim pool
Alright, here we go.
Polly Puree says, I worked at a nuclear power plant years ago.
Water very tightly contains the radiation.
They kept the rods in a swimming pool.
Yeah, so there's a story of a scuba diver who got sucked into like an intake valve and was swimming in the reactor pool totally fine.
Because water blocks radiation.
jr majewski
Yeah, probably in the spent fuel pool.
If he was in the reactor pool, it'd be a different story.
tim pool
There you go, that might have been it.
jr majewski
There's also, I believe it was in Japan, construction workers, so they were working around the spent fuel pool and they had a glass tube.
Right.
And they stuck the tube into the water and he looked into it and it pretty much fried his brain.
No, I don't know if that's like tribal to the nuclear industry, if it's like the boogeyman and we all talk about it.
But I've heard that story.
tim pool
Because he created a path for the radiation.
jr majewski
Yeah.
tim pool
That's crazy.
And that's why I always get bothered in movies when they have like a remote control underwater drone or something, because I've done this drone work.
I'm like, it's impossible.
You can't broadcast signals through water.
It blocks radiation.
So underwater drones are wired.
And that's why the drones they do have, they're wired and they do shallow surveys of ships and stuff.
But going deeper, it has to be a wired connection because water blocks radiation.
Also, I love how in space, liquid nitrogen is what they use to insulate to keep something warm.
Isn't that crazy?
You think it's the opposite.
serge du preez
Yeah, it would.
tim pool
But that's not how vacuums work.
Also, you don't freeze in outer space.
I can't stand movies when it's like they're in outer space and they're freezing.
ian crossland
It's because there's no moisture?
tim pool
Because there's no convection.
The heat can't escape your body to anywhere, so it stays where it is.
And builds up and you get hotter and hotter and then you die.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So, like, in order for heat to leave your body, you need to blow it away and transfer the heat from one... it has to... convection.
ian crossland
That's kind of like a nuclear meltdown situation.
That's why the stuff melts down, because it can't get the heat out of it.
tim pool
Yeah.
In outer space, there's nowhere for the heat to go.
You're in a vacuum.
ian crossland
So you melt down.
tim pool
That's wild.
Yeah, it's like in a thermos.
The reason... the way these things work is they're vacuumed on, you know, on all sides but one.
And so heat can only escape up, whereas with a regular mug, it's escaping in every direction.
Anyway, the more you know.
unidentified
It's the best part of having a political show is dropping all the science we learn along the way.
jr majewski
It's absolutely how they contain spent nuclear fuel.
tim pool
All right, Tyrion says, as a Coloradan, TDS is strong here in the cities.
What were you saying?
They secure nuclear spent fuel?
jr majewski
Yeah, they draw a vacuum on the container.
They actually backfill it with helium.
Wow.
Yeah, they draw the vacuum, backfill it with helium, and then the stainless steel shell can heat, but it's within... Does the helium help normalize the pressure while insulating?
And the temperature, right?
tim pool
Yeah, interesting.
You know, helium's finite, and we're running out.
unidentified
Yep.
ian crossland
We gotta fuse some hydrogen.
tim pool
Well, once we figure out fusion, we'll be able to mass-produce helium, too.
ian crossland
So about that deuterium oxide.
tim pool
That's right!
ian crossland
It's heavy hydrogen.
When you add a neutron to the hydrogen, smash it together in a palladium lattice.
tim pool
I was talking with Richie earlier.
He was like, fission is... Which one is fission and fusion?
And we were talking about fusion reactors and fusion engines.
And it was an interesting conversation.
jr majewski
I'm going to connect you guys to a buddy of mine that actually has a startup company and he's right now going through the licensing process and through the grant process with the DOE that he's probably the strongest advocate right now in the country to recycle spent nuclear fuel.
Genius guy.
I think you'd love him.
tim pool
All right, Keegan Mazzo says, welcome back Ian.
There's a Russian Orthodox monastery being built in Wayne, West Virginia.
I am planning a pilgrimage to it soon.
I would like to know if you wanted to go and see it as well.
To get into contact with me, you can find me on the discord, Keegan Mazzo.
We should film it.
ian crossland
Yeah, that does sound cool.
tim pool
We should do like a little mini, like 10 minute visit to the Russian Orthodox monastery and like, you know, ask them what it's all about.
That'd be great.
Yes.
Yeah, fun stuff.
We'll, uh, we'll grab some more.
We'll grab some more.
Where we at?
Just leave me alone says Florida Trump County.
What does it say does not understand about that?
unidentified
Oh, there you go.
tim pool
Madeline Bradgett says I work in nuclear engineering.
You guys are doing a decent job explaining.
Risk is actually small and there's a ton of backup protection.
It would bring a lot of high paying technical jobs.
It's clean energy.
Carbon, carbon emission free.
We should be building nuclear plants all over the place.
jr majewski
So to be clear to the audience, I am not an engineer by trade.
I have a master's degree in business.
I was someone that was in management.
I managed and led a lot of smart engineers that were a heck of a lot smarter than me.
So my scientific knowledge or my technical knowledge is all just based on observation.
So some of the questions you asked me, I can't answer them because I didn't have the technical background.
ian crossland
Alright.
jr majewski
Not a fake it till you make it good.
ian crossland
You did answer them, but you were honest.
jr majewski
It's all from me learning and observing the people that work with me.
tim pool
Isaac Gorski says, why the hell don't we just use the wheels of the cars to create motion-powered cars with their own power source?
That's right!
I saw this really funny video, you may have seen it, where it's a car and they've got a generator strapped to the back right wheel.
So when the wheel spins, it spins the generator and is charging, and they're like, wow, that's so smart!
And these people are so dumb, they don't understand the conservation of energy, they don't understand the basic laws of thermodynamics, that all he's doing is robbing his vehicle of energy by doing that.
Yeah, but you know, I will say, shout out to Mythbusters, they created an internal, what was it?
It was an internal kinetic motor, and so the idea was that you could not create an engine that was inside a boat to cause motion, because equal and opposite reaction, but it actually disproved it, and they were able to create forward motion with an internal engine.
Basically the way it worked was, It fires, it sits in the middle of the boat, doesn't touch the water, and it fires a piston.
And then when the piston hits the end, it pulls everything forward.
And the idea is, the pressure of moving the piston forward creates an opposite reaction in the other direction, which should prevent the boat from moving forward.
But I'm pretty sure that it was MythBuzzer who did this.
ian crossland
They actually were able to drive the boat forward using internal... I think it's because the earth is round and you're kind of always falling forward when you're in the water.
jr majewski
There goes the flat earthers.
tim pool
Ian, that is very wrong.
ian crossland
It might have something to do with it.
But the way the waves always kind of move towards the shore, like that is something.
The moon also is pulling you.
tim pool
The issue, I think it was actually really simple math, was that the initial reaction which fired the piston does create a reaction in both directions.
And then the catching of the piston creates a minor shock in one direction is what caused it.
And then they've also got really interesting, I was watching something about Using, uh, what was it, like firing electrons or photons inside a device and then at, uh, so this would work in outer space.
The amount of force created from electrons hitting a plate internally would have no effect on Earth because of friction and weight and gravity, but in outer space it would build up enough to where over time it would create speed.
ian crossland
Yeah, when you heat up one, it's kind of how spores travel through space.
The brighter side of the spore is on top, and then the dark side's underneath, so the brighter side orients towards a star and then begins to spin, which creates gyration and momentum.
hannah claire brimelow
I just love science.
ian crossland
It's so fun.
tim pool
We gotta go.
ian crossland
Regarding, we'll just do this real quick, regarding catching energy out of a system like out of your car, you can get what's called extropy, which is a little bit of lost energy can be reused.
It doesn't give you enough to propel the system like a computer.
All that heat coming out of your computer can be used to like heat water and can heat the pipes in your house.
tim pool
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JR, do you want to shout anything out?
jr majewski
No, just, you know, thanks for having me on and shout out to all the people in Northwest Ohio.
We're gonna beat Marcy Kaptur this cycle, and I'd appreciate a follow on Twitter or any other form of social media.
JRFOROhio is my website.
tim pool
How far from Pittsburgh?
jr majewski
About three hours.
tim pool
Three hours?
We're looking at doing an event in Pittsburgh.
Want to invite the Ohioans to come hang out?
jr majewski
I'd love to come.
tim pool
Yeah, absolutely.
jr majewski
They love you in the 9th, dude.
Yeah?
They love us red, white, and blue Americans, man.
tim pool
I went to Pittsburgh last weekend, and I've never been recognized more.
Basically, like, I went to a poker room, and the lady was there, she was like, I knew it was you.
And I was like, oh, thanks.
And then, like, every table, they're like, oh, hey, look who it is.
I'm like, damn, Pittsburgh people know me, I guess.
jr majewski
Midwest is the best, man.
tim pool
But I think it's because I have Chicago sensibilities, and so it's like, Midwesterners are, you know, we kind of see these things, and we're not the coasts, it makes sense, but anyway.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, I'm all for the pro-Pittsburgh talking points, even though I've never been there.
I am really glad that we were here tonight.
It was a fun conversation.
I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.
I'm a writer for TimCast.com.
You should go to Twitter and Instagram and follow at TimCastNews all the time, always.
And if you want to follow me personally, I'm HannahClaire.B on Instagram and H.C.
Brimlow on Twitter.
Thank you guys so much.
And of course, welcome back to Ian once again.
ian crossland
Thank you, Anna-Claire.
I'm Ian Cross, and you guys follow me, hey, anywhere, everywhere.
Hit me up all over the internet.
Follow me everywhere, and I'll talk to you there.
JR, people are hitting your website.
What's the site?
jr majewski
JRFOROhio.com.
ian crossland
Gorgeous.
Good to see you, man.
jr majewski
Thanks, brother.
serge du preez
Pleasure meeting you, JR.
I am Surge.com.
I'm excited for the after show.
You guys should join up and talk to us.
One day I'll be on the Discord, but not anytime soon.
Catch you later.
tim pool
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