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Schadenfreude!
That's what it's called.
You guys see the video of Eric Adams being like, our city is doomed!
phil labonte
Doomed!
tim pool
Because illegal immigrants are overrunning the city.
Here's a story from TimCast.com.
Eric Adams says illegal immigrants will destroy New York City.
Yo, the video's nuts.
He's losing it.
phil labonte
That's racist.
unidentified
The New Yorkers.
Never in my life have I had a problem that I did not see and ended to.
I don't see an end to this.
I don't see an end to this.
This issue will destroy New York City.
Destroy New York City.
We're getting 10,000 migrants a month.
One time we were just in Venezuela.
Now we're getting Ecuador.
Now we're getting Russian-speaking coming through Mexico.
Now we're getting Western Africa.
Now we're getting people from all over the globe have made their minds up that they're going to come through the southern part of the border and come into New York City.
tim pool
It reminds me of the Wicked Witch of the West being like, I'm melting!
What a world!
Here's a tweet from Eric Adams where he said, Yes, New York City will remain a sanctuary city under Adams administration.
Eric Adams, this is a problem of your own fucking creation, and I am feeling emotional satisfaction, dare I say pleasure.
phil labonte
Yep.
tim pool
I am feeling extreme pleasure watching you suffer and writhe.
Now, I don't want to be a dick.
It's kind of a dick thing to say.
Let me just say to the people of New York City, you voted for this.
And you deserve it.
But you don't deserve what happens next.
If you change your habits and your voting patterns, you can vote for something better, and you deserve whatever comes next.
So I hope they take that into consideration.
But it does feel really good to see them experiencing the pain that they caused.
ian crossland
Yeah, it makes me happy in that, thank God he's saying something about it, and he's not still pretending like it's not a big deal that 10,000 foreign nationals illegally enter your city every month.
tim pool
To be fair, to be fair though, when he said Venezuela, there's a compromise here.
We can take the hipster communists from New York, send them to Venezuela, and give the Venezuelans their homes.
I would absolutely be okay with it.
martha bueno
I'm 100% for this.
I think that program would be a success, except those Americans are gonna want to come back.
tim pool
Nah, they can't.
They're gone.
It's like, you're gonna go to your socialist paradise and Maduro's gonna give you an empanada.
ian crossland
Is it fucked down there?
martha bueno
Arepa, but whatever.
Arepa, empanada, whatever.
tim pool
Oh, arepa.
Right, right, right.
martha bueno
No, it was because... It's all those Hispanics.
tim pool
Maduro ate an empanada on camera.
martha bueno
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Arepa is like the sandwich.
That's like the corn you break open.
But Maduro took an empanada out of his drawer.
You saw that, right?
unidentified
Oh, that was so bad.
tim pool
You didn't see that one?
martha bueno
No.
phil labonte
Oh, dude.
martha bueno
I try not to watch him at any point.
I mean, it upsets me.
I mean, sure, let's watch him.
unidentified
Here you go.
ian crossland
Starving population in the middle of a press conference, he does this.
tim pool
He thought the camera had switched to something else during his speech, and so the people of Venezuela are starving, and he opens a drawer and pulls out an empanada and... Notice he's also fat.
Yeah, he's a fat fuck.
ian crossland
That's what I was thinking.
Motherfucking can't control his appetite.
tim pool
Look at him shove half that thing in his mouth.
ian crossland
Disgusting.
tim pool
What a piece of trash.
Anyway.
ian crossland
Everybody's gotta eat.
tim pool
I say we take any Venezuelan who is unhappy and we say you can come to the United States, but only if A leftist communist in this country agrees to switch places.
phil labonte
You could empty out the entirety of the Upper East and West Side and send them down there.
And I can guarantee you're only going to have about a 10-20% error rate.
tim pool
What's the thing called where you take the avocado and the pulled chicken and you mash it together?
You know what I'm talking about?
That's what I ate when I was in Venezuela.
martha bueno
Um, yeah.
Reina Pepeada.
Is that what it is?
Yeah.
tim pool
All I know is the guy we were with said we were going to get arepas and we went to a restaurant and that's what it was.
It was, it was, they take, they pull the chicken, then they take avocado, they mix it together, then they put it in the arepa and they put cheese on top and like tomato or something.
And it is amazing.
And I'll tell you this.
Please let all the communists of no skill and no merit who whine and complain go to Venezuela and let all of the good Venezuelan people who want to work hard and like America, let them come here.
martha bueno
There's a lot of oil in Venezuela.
I mean, if they actually work, they could make that happen.
ian crossland
Yeah.
Is it a mess?
tim pool
Can we do a reality TV show like this?
Like Big Brother, but leftist communists in Venezuela?
ian crossland
Sam Hyde would probably get behind it.
phil labonte
A reality TV show where we kidnap people and send them to New York?
tim pool
Where they beg us to send them to their communist utopia.
You know, Ron Paul hit the nail on the head with the hammer.
He was like, no one's stopping you from starting your communist utopia here in the United States.
You can literally go buy land, create your communist utopia, and do it.
But they never want to do that.
They always want to steal your stuff.
ian crossland
I wonder, I haven't seen Fish Tank live.
That's Sam Hyde's show.
I've seen it.
But that'd be funny if they did a communist, a special communist episode or a special communist house.
martha bueno
We should start a commune as a reality show.
Let's go ahead.
ian crossland
The commune?
martha bueno
Yeah, the commune.
Let's do it.
tim pool
And put all of those communes at you in the middle.
unidentified
To worship.
martha bueno
You know, so that they have a church.
There you go.
ian crossland
It'll have, like, cameras on it so that we're spying and everyone's being spied on.
Church in the back.
tim pool
Yo, this is actually a really, this would be a very entertaining show.
unidentified
It would be.
ian crossland
Comedy is a great title, too.
martha bueno
It would.
It would be amazing.
And then, you know, like, they all think that they're just going to do their art and hang around, and when they start starving, it's going to be, um... Yeah, and they're going to be like, where's the food?
tim pool
Like, yeah, whoever... Where's the food?
phil labonte
Whoever lasts the longest gets to have dinner.
tim pool
To be fair, it'll be like the morbidly obese person ends up going 30 days without eating.
Like, I have no problem.
Everyone else is leaving and they're unhealthy.
martha bueno
What was that zone in Portland called?
Chaz and Shop.
That's literally that.
I mean, did you see their little gardens?
Their little pathetic gardens.
tim pool
They laid cardboard down and then put potted plants on top of it with dirt.
phil labonte
That was my favorite thing of 2020.
That garden.
That was so embarrassingly ridiculous.
The best part about it was the The, like, drugged out people that, like, were rolling around in the dirt.
ian crossland
Oh my god.
phil labonte
And the, the just absolutely defeated dude that was standing there watching him do it because he's trying, like, it looks like the dude, like, there was one guy that had, like, at least an idea of how to grow something, and then there's this, like, you know, tweaker, whatever, rolling around, and the dude's just like, you can see him, he's just like, for fuck's sake.
tim pool
Oh, this was, this was not Portland, it was Seattle, it was Seattle, right?
Capitol Hill.
unidentified
Oh!
tim pool
But, um, I would love to see these people try and farm.
And that, oh, it's just so awesome.
We gotta do this.
martha bueno
I'd like to see them grow their own food in any capacity.
Chickens, you know, cattle, whatever it is, because it's hard work.
tim pool
Oh, they wouldn't be able to hatch chicken eggs.
No, no question.
and they'd have no idea what they're doing.
martha bueno
Hatched chicken eggs?
Yeah.
Chickens do it themselves.
tim pool
They don't.
Chickens have, it's been bred out of chickens.
You can get silkies, silkies are broody chickens, but even our silkies basically killed their babies
because chickens are dumb as a box of rocks.
martha bueno
Oh wait, so we have like wild chickens that come into my yard.
I have chickens too.
And they lay their chickens in my, like I won't find the eggs sometimes.
And I have a whole bunch of wild chickens that I can't control on my property.
tim pool
So out of the ones we have, we've had like two, I think we've had like maybe four.
martha bueno
Next time I'll bring you a wild chicken.
tim pool
Four natural ones.
martha bueno
You need a real one.
tim pool
Silkies are an older breed and they still have the brooding within them.
Chickens can of course brood, some breeds are broodier than others, but for the most part, Like, it is difficult to get them to do it, and it's on purpose.
Farmers have bred them specifically to be able to control their reproduction.
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tim pool
I would love to watch an urban hipster try and deal with a chicken.
phil labonte
They run from them.
unidentified
I'm not kidding around, I guarantee... How are they going to catch a chicken to, like, kill it?
martha bueno
Imagine them killing it and then, like, eating it.
Like, how is this going to happen?
tim pool
They would not know where to begin.
ian crossland
With a blur right over the chicken's neck when the hatchet comes down.
That's how it's going to happen.
tim pool
They wouldn't know how to get the feathers out.
martha bueno
I have, unfortunately.
I've never injured a chicken.
Yeah, it's not fun.
ian crossland
What, do you just hold them down by the neck and then come down with a blade?
phil labonte
Do you get a stump?
And you put two big nails in right next to each other so you can put their head next to it or put their head in between and you slide their head in between the two nails that are sticking out and then pull just a little bit.
So that way it pulls its head out.
ian crossland
It's like a chicken guillotine.
Do you go in at an angle?
Does it matter?
phil labonte
I mean, it's it's it's chicken heads are so our necks are very, very thin.
It doesn't you've got an axe.
It doesn't matter.
tim pool
We got wild.
We had we have wild turkeys all over here.
So this morning I woke up and there was like seven and there was one that was a baby one.
It was really funny because they all look the same, but one small.
But You got free food right there.
We have deer that live on our lawn.
phil labonte
You got free food right there.
unidentified
All the time when I leave here.
There's like 12!
Yeah.
tim pool
12, they're everywhere!
They came up onto my porch!
And they were eating my brambles!
martha bueno
You talk about bastards.
I mean, you can eat those.
tim pool
Oh, I love when I... Dude, the coolest thing about Miami, no squirrels, lizards.
And you know what we would do?
We would catch the lizards whenever we could and bring them in the house.
Because they eat the bugs.
So we would have like a lizard on the wall and we're like, lizards are fun.
Gigantic centipedes are not.
So we would catch the lizards and bring them in.
ian crossland
That's how I feel about spiders.
tim pool
We had a big one, like an iguana, a massive iguana living in our, in our, we didn't bring that guy in.
Like, you know, we can't do that.
But the little ones that were like this, we have lizards out here too.
And it's really funny watching them chase bugs.
So in the skate park, the barn, you'll see the little dude, the blue tail, like running around and jump trying to get a moth.
That's just fun.
phil labonte
You were talking about a lot of turkeys and stuff.
We had a lot of wild turkeys up in New England too.
There's this one day, I'm looking out the window, and there's this wild turkey by my car.
I used to have a black car, so you could see reflection.
And it was all puffed up, looking to fight its reflection.
That's how stupid chickens and turkeys and stuff are.
They're completely shady.
tim pool
I got bad news for everybody.
Vanessa died the other night.
ian crossland
I think you mentioned that.
tim pool
Yeah, Vanessa was one of the original chickens, and she was fat and happy.
She was one of the healthiest chickens we had, and she just died.
And so, there are viruses that can cause issues, that may be the case.
And it does suck to report, but I think it's also important to report, out of all the chickens we've had, I think we've only had about 5 deaths out of 90 chickens.
And so it's actually really good.
It's unfortunate.
It's the ones we like that tend to be the one dying, but... The ones that get too much attention?
Yeah, Roberto the third looks just like Roberto jr.
Oh, he's got a white.
He's got white feathers.
martha bueno
I love these names.
tim pool
Well, so we bought a bunch of chickens.
We gave them all names.
martha bueno
Right.
tim pool
Like Margaret Hatcher and you know, and then we had My kids give the chickens names, but we've got ridiculously dumb names.
We had Bobby Beaks, and we did not realize, because they don't always gender correctly, Bobby was actually a boy, so Bobby became Roberto.
Then Roberto had three kids.
The first we hatched, and that was Roberto Jr.
Roberto Jr.
became our star and our celebrity.
He recently had a heart attack and died suddenly at the age of two, which is really unfortunate.
But he's got three sons, and so we have christened Roberto III.
Looks just like him, but Roberto was a Rhode Island Red.
He banged an Easter Egger, and then Roberto Jr.
looked very much like his dad.
Uh, I don't know who his mom is, but Roberto III has the same head and neck and tail, but his, like, back and wings have white on them.
ian crossland
The Gandalf.
tim pool
Yeah, he came to Gandalf.
And then, and then Roberto Jr.
also banged one of the Jersey Giants, so he's got a son who's half Jersey Giant, and he's gonna get huge!
ian crossland
He'd be a very big chicken.
What's the dumbest chicken name of all your chickens?
martha bueno
Oh, God.
Again, my children name them.
I think Garf.
ian crossland
Garf with an F?
unidentified
Yeah.
martha bueno
Oh, that's cool.
God, I'm like, oh my God, this is so, yeah.
The rooster's Gus, and then we have his son is Seymour.
ian crossland
That's great.
martha bueno
It's just stupid names.
tim pool
Yeah, anyway, the joke I like to bring up is that after the economy crumbles to shit
and the crisis is in full swing, whatever ends up happening, you know, people out here in Appalachia,
you're gonna wake up one day hearing a rustling sound.
Your wife is going to be like, Honey, wake up.
Did you hear that?
It's like, what is it?
Someone's in the backyard.
And then you're going to grab your 12 gauge or whatever.
And you're going to be like, God damn it.
Coyotes or something.
And you're going to go out to your chicken coop and you're going to turn the light on and then be like, Get out of there!
Hey!
And then you're going to see a dude with a flannel shirt tucked into his jeans with suspenders and black frame glasses jump out holding one of your chickens go, I'm just so hungry!
phil labonte
And then you're like, drop my chicken, you motherfucker!
tim pool
And then he's gonna run for it, and you're gonna have hipster raids.
Because the peoples in these cities don't know how to survive.
And once food starts running out, they're gonna become desperate.
They're gonna eat anything.
They're gonna drink anything.
phil labonte
Anyone know what a CONUS kill is?
unidentified
No.
phil labonte
That's something the dudes in the military talk about.
That's killing someone on the continental United States as opposed to doing it overseas.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
tim pool
But I mean, like, yeah, there's no water in New York.
If shit hit the fan and society broke down, what do they drink?
People aren't just gonna decide to die.
They're gonna drink blood.
And piss.
They'll drink river water and ocean water and then die.
phil labonte
That'll kill them.
tim pool
Yep.
unidentified
The Gowanus Canal.
Oh God.
tim pool
That thing's a legend.
phil labonte
But you know, the thing is like when you get people that are like literally on the verge of dying of thirst, they'll drink it.
It'll be disgusting, but they'll drink it.
tim pool
And then they'll die.
They'll die either way.
So for those unfamiliar, the Gowanus Canal is basically like industrial refuse that's built up for a very long period of time they can't get rid of.
Because they can't spill it into the water.
So it's just maintained.
martha bueno
Can you distill that?
It's sludge.
tim pool
It's industrial waste and sewage and garbage.
And when the hurricane hit, it overflowed.
And everyone's like, ah!
So it's like really fucked up.
ian crossland
Oh man, I used to live over near there.
Dang, dude, they've got a sewage treatment plant.
Yeah, it's in Brooklyn over by Sandy Hook.
No, that's not Sandy Hook.
Red Hook.
Okay, it's a bit further away.
I was in Far Rockaway, and there's a disgusting sewage treatment plant right there on the water that stank like fucking shit every time.
tim pool
It's a dumping ground right now.
martha bueno
So we have all this government and they allow this?
phil labonte
Well, they have all that government.
tim pool
Yeah, they have all that government.
ian crossland
The Gowanus.
martha bueno
Well, yeah, so that's a great example right there of why you don't actually need government.
Look at that!
tim pool
You need government to protect you from Yeah, but to be fair, the Clean Water Restoration Act was signed into law because the Cuyahoga River started on fire.
ian crossland
My dad saw it happen.
That's where my hometown is, Cuyahoga Falls.
tim pool
Yeah, the river started on fire, because what happened was all these different industrial factories, these corporations, We're saying things like, we contribute only a half a percent of the pollution.
It is not our fault.
It's their fault.
Yeah, but every corporation was contributing a half a percent or some small number and all of it combined turned the river to flammable sludge.
It burst into flames and they're like, uh, maybe we need some kind of agreement that we're going to stop doing this, which resulted in the Clean Water Restoration Act.
So, I'm not, I'm not, I'm mostly anti-government, but I'm okay with, like, social tenets, you know, like, social compromise and cooperation, which is the fundamentals of basic government.
The problem with government is, as they, you need some degree of enforcement power, which I think should be more judiciary and not I mean, you can sue a company for this damage that they do to the environment.
martha bueno
I think that's way more powerful than having the EPA tell you how much pollution you can put into the water.
tim pool
And the police force should be marshals enforcing court orders, not going around issuing fines for random bullshit.
phil labonte
And it all can be handled under property rights laws, too.
If you are polluting some some body of water, whatever, that body of water isn't the same body of water.
It travels through other people's property and stuff like that, which means that the people that if you like people that messed up the river, like the people that live on the river downstream, they have standing to sue them into oblivion because they're damaging their property.
ian crossland
What about air pollution?
phil labonte
Every air pollution is same thing.
Property rights cover that too.
ian crossland
What about noise pollution?
phil labonte
Well, noise pollution isn't the same because it affects people differently.
And noise pollution is more of a constant kind of sound than like big noises that would like give you tinnitus or whatever.
So when they try to keep noise pollution down, they do like noise ordinances and stuff like that.
So I don't know that property rights would be able to do anything because you have to show damages to have to have the ability to Ask for redress of grievances.
So if you had noise that hurt your ears, gave you tinnitus and you could prove it or damaged your hearing, then you might have standing so that way you could sue.
But if you don't have any kind of like actual thing that happened to you, you can't.
ian crossland
But so if there's like air pollution and pumped out in the chemical plant down the street and you're breathing it in, but you can't prove that it's doing damage, but it's like 20 years later, you're going to get some sort of cancerous lesions.
Like it's a long time.
That's when I think the value of the government is like, we're going to stop the company from producing the chemical instead of waiting 15 years to then have to go sue them.
martha bueno
I mean, we have chemical plants again, back to Miami.
Sorry.
Um, we have chemical, we have plants that take care of like our trash and they're putting stuff into the air and they're polluting and the government regulates them and allows it.
It's like, Oh, you're, you're doing great today.
It's only this much pollution.
The government is literally there to give you permission to, to do that.
I just, You know, I think that we can do better and we have the opportunity to do better by holding people accountable.
The government just gives you permission to do it.
ian crossland
It does.
It prevents people from annihilating the economy at scale.
martha bueno
What, the government?
ian crossland
Yeah, like chemical plants and shit.
People that are, you know, hopefully spilling oil and stuff like that are held to task.
They're not always, but that's why you need air pollution.
martha bueno
That's why you need a court system, not necessarily the government.
You need people to say, you need a financial incentive.
The government, it's not really there.
I mean, if you know that you're going to really, you know, lose all your money, all your property, because you're doing this thing, you won't do it.
It's a financial incentive.
ian crossland
Do you like the idea of bringing like dirty industrial job, just industry back to the United States?
martha bueno
Industry is going to continue to evolve.
And today we just don't need that dirty chemical stuff like we did before.
It's almost like you're stuck in an age, you know, like things get better with technology.
And right now we just have so much technology.
We have the ability to make it better, to not necessarily need that.
I mean, which plant right now are we talking about that would do this?
ian crossland
Like a vinyl chloride plant in China or something like that.
phil labonte
China's not really something that the United States has jurisdiction over.
ian crossland
But like they shipped the PVC plants over to China because it was so nasty on the environment.
To be honest, I don't have a specific plant that I can name at the moment, but like the really heavy industrial plastic, crappy plastic that you don't want to touch.
martha bueno
I mean, I'm sure there's a solution to it.
I'm sure there's something that can be done for it.
And I'm not an expert, so I'm not going to even, you know, try here.
But there's always something.
Human innovation is amazing.
ian crossland
Yeah, you can flash coal with lasers and upscale it into graphene and clean burn.
unidentified
Sure can.
tim pool
We're gonna go to callers!
Let's jump to our callers and we'll start with the Weatherman.
The Weatherman, sir, you are here with us.
unidentified
Hey, you can call me Andy.
Thank you so much for taking my call.
My question is for Martha and has to do with the whole Venezuelan thing.
She said that Venezuela wouldn't exist without Cuba and how they're inextricably linked.
I'm wondering as to your thoughts on and familiarity with Castro Chavismo as it's talked about in the Spanish and Latin language presses and Venezuela's intent to export revolution to other countries like the United States through what they call people's diplomacy.
Thank you for that question.
So yeah, there's actually a plan in place that has been in place for a long time.
Fidel Castro talked about this and that plan was to turn Latin America into the USSR, like a USSR.
martha bueno
and thank you so much for taking the call. Thank you for that question. So yeah,
there's actually a plan in place that has been in place for a long time.
Fidel Castro talked about this and that plan was to turn Latin America into the
USSR, like a USSR, and it's weird to see it happening now in his death, but this
plan has been around for a long time.
A lot of people have talked about it and Fidel Castro, you know, had a hand in the FARC in Colombia.
He had a hand with Bolsonaro in Brazil.
I'm sorry, Lula in Brazil.
He's had a hand in a lot of what's going on in LATAM.
And that was the plan and the goal supposedly was to lure the United States into another Vietnam style.
You actually can kind of see where they're going with it currently with Fentanyl.
And I know that's like such a weird far, you know, out of space thing, but Cuba is known because they allow the traffic of drugs.
They actually use Cuban waters.
You can, you know, the FARC was a great example of that.
They'd drive their boats into Cuban waters and the Cuban Coast Guard would help it get into either Puerto Rico or Florida or whatever that case is.
China's right now putting fentanyl into those drugs and trying to Get Americans sick.
It costs our health care there, you know gets us really addicted and that's kind of where they're going with this.
They are trying to take us down and you know, I know people don't like when I say the war on drugs is stupid and we need to end it but we especially need to end it because that's You know, that's going on.
And absolutely, people in my community, in Miami especially, will talk about the similarities between what happened before, you know, and what's going on in the United States.
I say it all the time, too.
I remember my dad in Venezuela telling his Venezuelan friends, like, I've lived through this.
I've seen it.
It's happening here.
And people are like, you don't know what you're talking about, Cuban.
You have no idea.
Like, look at how much oil we have.
We're never going to be a Cuba.
And it fell faster than Cuba did.
Far faster.
ian crossland
Were you there when that happened?
martha bueno
I was I had just left so my my parents got me out first my dad was there I was the first one to leave there was a threat on my life and my you know I immediately left the country and I actually never even got to say goodbye to my friends like it was one of those you're not coming home so yeah I was not there personally but lived it.
ian crossland
You said it fell like what was the process what happened?
martha bueno
It's hard to describe.
So first and foremost, obviously, Chavez won, right?
That's the first thing.
And then immediately thereafter, it's kind of what happened before.
There was all of that hatred amongst people.
And that rhetoric, I do remember growing up with it and seeing it.
It's like, well, you don't have this because Is that what you're, is remnant?
phil labonte
Do you see that here?
Like the class warfare?
martha bueno
Of course.
unidentified
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martha bueno
That kind of, absolutely.
I mean, you know, I, and I hear it all the time and it's like, well, you know, these people don't have that because of the rich people.
Listen, you can, you can like, or dislike all of the rich people, you know, like, but Jeff Bezos is not consuming, you know, your milk, you know, like he's not taking from your mouth.
Could he give you a better job?
Sure, but you can also get a better, you know, learn a different skill and get a job somewhere else, start your own business.
There's a lot of that rhetoric and it's sad because, you know, I travel probably just as much as you guys, if not more, and you see all around the United States people aren't that Hi!
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martha bueno
You know, they're not against each other.
They're really not.
This idea that we're just here, like, hating on each other, I just don't see it.
And so, yeah, I think it's a lot of rhetoric, and they put it in our minds, so we're at each other's throats instead of being at the throats of the people who we actually have to be against, which is government.
We need to be, like, arguing with our government and taking down their power, not each other's.
So, yeah, there's definitely that similarity.
You know, then Chavez rose to power and immediately the expropriations... What was that?
ian crossland
What's expropriations?
What happened?
martha bueno
Expropriations is when they take your... Stealing property.
Yeah.
It's the pretty word they like to use.
And I mean, there's videos which you can see of Chavez just walking down a street in Caracas and he'll say, expropiación.
And he just meant it like, take that building.
That building belongs to us.
The farm that my father owned in Venezuela that he stayed behind to try and sell before he left.
He sold it.
Two months after he sold it, you know, the people who bought it, unfortunately one of the guys, he was kidnapped and then shortly thereafter the property was expropriated.
Like, it's just, it is incredibly sad to watch what happens and, you know, unfortunately we just, we don't learn and we want to go back to it.
ian crossland
Was it like the expropriations when your dad was like, Jesus, get her out of here and got you out of the country?
martha bueno
I was out before.
No, I was out.
I left in 1995, way before Chavez, I think, came to power in 1999.
So my leaving was before it.
But I have a lot of friends, a lot of family.
I had.
Most of my friends and family are now here in the US or around the world.
Everybody left.
Venezuela, you know, we talk about Syria having a crisis, a migrant crisis.
Venezuela has the largest migrant crisis in the world and it's not going to get any better.
Yes, New York is suffering right now, but I'm sure New York will survive.
There's growing pains always.
Miami went from, I don't know, a hundred thousand people a hundred years ago to three million and change.
You can absorb the people.
New York can absorb the people.
It's going to take some time to get back to, you know, normal.
But yeah, you know, if you want less immigration, let's stop these American policies of going to screw up stuff around the world.
But America did not cause what happened in Venezuela.
I will say that.
tim pool
The weatherman, was there anything you wanted to add to that or was that sufficient?
phil labonte
I think he hung up, right?
tim pool
No, he's here.
He's just muted.
unidentified
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tim pool
I think that's a yes.
All right.
It's a green light.
unidentified
My slippery fingers.
Thank you so much for the response.
I'll catch some of you guys on the after show.
Much appreciate it.
And that thing about Castro trying to make the South America, the Soviet Union, that's pretty much essentially been achieved nowadays with all the, I think Uruguay's about the only place that doesn't have a communist politician in charge right now.
But yeah, thank you so much.
Appreciate your time.
martha bueno
And hopefully Argentina chooses Javier Milet, and we have a reversal of this.
I think if Argentina goes with Javier Milet, we might see the Latin American continent go, you know, a little away from this and hopefully towards freedom, but it's a long shot.
tim pool
All right, next up, we got Onion Dip.
ian crossland
Yes.
tim pool
What up?
Onions are good.
unidentified
Yes.
Nino, thanks for taking my call.
Thank you, Tim, for all you do.
tim pool
No problemo.
What's up?
unidentified
My question is for the whole panel, um, and it is, uh, how long until, uh, what do you think the future for groups like the Oath Keepers and the Proud Boys are, and, uh, how long until they interest, like, Japanese citizens at the end of, or during World War II?
tim pool
Start, I recommend everybody find a good book about the, uh, actually, no, here's the thing you can do.
Look up the American Revolution on Wikipedia and just start reading articles.
It doesn't mean they're all perfect or correct, but just start reading.
Because I think a lot of people don't understand where I'm coming from when I make the statements that I'm making.
Like, for instance, when I said, consistently I've said, my concern is that people will lose confidence in government, and when they do, you'll see militia groups pop up at various parts of the country.
The feds will not be able to stop them.
There's not enough law enforcement.
This will lead to conflict.
You'll see Bundy Ranch times 100.
I've been saying that for years.
Why?
The Battle of Lexington and Concord, really great example.
You get a lot of people who are saying things like, you know, the blood of patriots and tyrants, tree of liberty, etc, etc.
And I'm like, when you say that stuff and you yell 1776, it makes it clear to me that you've not actually read about the American Revolution and what happened.
It was a 20 plus year period.
It didn't start because the Founding Fathers all got together and said, these crimes against the people must be answered for!
We hereby declare independence!
That's actually not what happened.
What happened was, starting in probably 1764, the Parliament started passing bills that people thought were bad.
There was a dramatic escalation, uh, one step at a time, over this period, from 64 to 76.
But the war started in 75, April 19th was the shot heard round the world, and it was because... Alright, let's go for it.
Boston Tea Party happens.
Destruction of property.
The Crown says, you gotta pay for this.
They say, we're not paying for it.
The Crown was trying to prop up the East India Trading Company, stop them from going bankrupt.
So they gave them favorable policies.
The people in the colonies were like, fuck you, this is hurting us.
So the Crown says, we're gonna pass the Coercive Act, the Intolerable Act, whatever you want to call it.
This included a bunch of things like a quartering of soldiers, and it basically resulted in, I think it's called the Suffolk Resolve or something like this, where you get the provincial government or the colonial government being like, we're not abiding by this.
So then redcoats get sent in to basically enforce the law, which results in militias forming in random pockets outside of Boston.
Which results in the Redcoats being like, hey, you guys aren't allowed to form up and form militia.
You better hand over your guns.
And then they said, go fuck yourselves.
And when the Redcoats tried to take the guns away, shooting started happening.
And the Redcoats killed, I think, 18 of the militiamen at Lexington and Concord.
It's like, I think most people assume the shot heard around the world, the conflict and all this stuff.
Is like, the Continental Army had been meeting, and they'd been upset with the Crown, so they formed the ranks, and they said, you will not occupy- No, it was random dudes who were like, I don't like the fact that redcoats were sent in, they're not from here.
They're not from here, they should not be enforcing laws against us.
We are seeing a lot of this stuff happen now.
Anyway, my point is, this stuff's fascinating to read about.
And then what happens?
So, the American Revolutionary War basically starts with the Battle of Lexington and Concord.
It wasn't really a battle, it was just like random dudes being shot at who didn't want to give up their guns.
There was no Declaration of Independence.
The Declaration of Independence was then signed a year and a few months later.
There was already hostilities.
So all of these people were talking about, like, how do we get to that point?
When does it happen?
People live in this world where war is always like, gentlemen, do you think things are bad?
I think things are bad.
I'm going to draft a document and hereby declare war.
Never.
Never how it happens.
With the Civil War, it wasn't that way.
Conflict started well before.
You had bleeding cats going on for seven years.
And then with the American Revolutionary Period, you had a decade of conflict.
The Boston Massacre happened three years before the Boston Tea Party.
So all of these things are going on.
Sentiment is being built, and I must say it, much to the... I don't know.
I'll just put it this way.
The Declaration of Independence only matters because France was at war with Great Britain.
I'm oversimplifying it, and I'm being purposefully hyperbolic, but the reality is, The Founding Fathers signing a Declaration of Independence would be completely meaningless if the Crown actually compromised or France did not intervene.
The rebellion would have been crushed, the Declaration would have been a footnote in history nobody cared about, and the colonies would have remained subjects of the Crown.
But, because of international conflict, because of the way things turn out, we hold very serious reverence for the Declaration of Independence, for the Founding Fathers, even though they could have easily been crushed.
In fact, the Founding Fathers thought they would lose.
They were already in the Revolutionary War when they decided to declare independence.
It was only because the Crown was killing colonists, not only that, but like kidnapping people and forcing them to serve on boats, that they were like, I think we should tell them to go fuck themselves.
So, like, when we get to the point where people are being gulagged, which is basically kind of where we're at now with the J6ers, we are still, like, what, seven years away from getting to a point where people would, if like the Founding Fathers, consider open hostilities.
So the people who are calling for that are way wrong, need to read about this shit.
We are currently at the position of the Founding Fathers where they keep writing strongly worded letters to the crown being like, please just stop doing this.
ian crossland
And also boycotts.
It looks like Suffolk Resolves, which you mentioned earlier, is a result of the Intolerable Acts.
And it was Suffolk County, Massachusetts.
They were like, fuck you, we're boycotting British products until you repeal the Intolerable Acts.
So if they form like a central bank digital currency and people are like, fuck you, I'm not using your tracking mechanism.
No, it's not happening to my state.
Then you could see like the US government be like, yo, motherfucker, you are going to use our currency.
And we're like, no, motherfucker, we're not.
And then you're at some sort of weird impasse.
tim pool
I have a better scenario for you.
Big banks adopt ESG policies.
Florida, West Virginia, Texas, and a few other states declare that they will no longer do business with any company that's engaged in ESG.
They've already done this.
This results in economic damage.
Economic downturn emerges for a variety of reasons.
Student loans are kicking in, or have just begun to.
And maybe war.
in Eastern Europe results in stress on the American economy, which puts these big wealth
management funds and these investment firms at risk.
So the US government intervenes with bailout policies and demands of Florida, Texas, West
Virginia and other states that you do business with these companies or we pull federal aid.
The boycotts then result in the federal government saying you are an open defiance of federal
We are demanding under the Supremacy Clause that you work with these businesses, much like the East India Trading Company and the tea and all that stuff.
These states say no.
Federal law enforcement are sent in and arrest state-level politicians saying that they're engaged in insurrection, which results in state-level law enforcement and local militias forming saying, get the fuck out of here, you motherfuckers!
That would be more akin to what we saw with the American Revolution.
We're not there yet.
We're at the point where it's like, Trump could get elected and this stuff just stops and none of it matters.
ian crossland
My answer to your question, it's a personal opinion, is now is not the time in history to be joining militant political groups.
And I'm not saying that the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers are necessarily militant.
I know that they're known for carrying weapons peacefully, and then you could say this fucking bullshit at the Capitol that all happened, they were involved, there weren't really weapons involved.
I don't think it's a smart move to go join up with one of those in the heat of the moment right now.
It doesn't sound good.
It sounds like they really fucked up by engaging in open street violence at all and put themselves on the map.
unidentified
We have never engaged in offensive violence.
We have defended ourselves vehemently, but we have never involved in any sort of violence.
Specifically the J6 stuff, there's video of Joe Biggs picking stuff up, like the video of him shaking the fence, and then 20 minutes later that fence goes down, he's blamed for it.
It's quite ridiculous what We are lambasted and shown to be in mainstream media.
ian crossland
I agree.
I haven't seen the offensive attacks from Proud Boys, but when they were fucking up with the Antifa dudes and they were all fighting in the street and then they turned themselves in, that set a tone for what people believe the Proud Boys are, and that is a violent street gang.
phil labonte
It was all the media.
Nothing that the Browd Boys did, like none of the videos or anything, it was nothing that they did themselves.
They didn't throw firebombs.
They didn't start fights.
They didn't go get into fights.
They went to counter-protest Antifa, and Antifa started the fights with them.
They have been They have been completely and totally slandered and the narrative was created surrounding them as these bad violent people, but it was 100% Antifa doing it.
Like we can see the videos of Antifa starting it.
ian crossland
I do agree with that.
That's from what I've learned about it.
I mean, from what I learned about Proud Boys is it was just like a drinking gang, a group of drinking buddies, and they were getting together to fuck shit.
unidentified
I like to say that we're a drinking club with a political problem.
So, last quick point.
If you're religious, please say a prayer for Joe, Enrique, and Ethan.
They're up against some hard times here.
If you can do anything to support them, please do.
I appreciate all that.
And shout out to my boy Liberty Prime.
Death is a preferable alternative to communism.
phil labonte
Liberty Prime.
tim pool
Right on, man.
Thanks for calling in.
All right, we got.
How do you pronounce this?
Is it Nasky?
unidentified
Yeah, the CSO Silency.
Oh, it's seen ASCII.
phil labonte
That's seen ASCII.
unidentified
First, initial and last name.
ian crossland
So welcome to the show, sir.
unidentified
Well, thank you for having me.
Howdy, everyone.
Phil, I saw your thing on with Metallica.
That is fucking awesome.
Here's congratulations, man.
phil labonte
Appreciate it.
unidentified
I want the whole show for Martha here.
martha bueno
Oh, two questions already.
Wow.
I'm on a roll.
Sorry.
unidentified
No, no.
You're the guest.
You've earned it.
So obviously many conservatives would have an opinion with you utilizing OnlyFans to get your message out and raise funds.
Personally, I think it was a great idea.
But what other experimental fundraising methods or promotional methods would you recommend to a candidate moving forward?
martha bueno
So just to be clear I did not use OnlyFans to raise funds.
That would have been a logistical nightmare because you have to take everybody's name and address and occupation and give that to the government.
So I actually had that money that was put in there to my personal account and I took my team to a Bad Bunny concert.
So small little What it did was got me name recognition, got me in front of people, got me on shows.
I was able to get onto local shows and stuff like that.
So yeah, I see that, you know, conservatives might have an issue with it and, you know, sorry.
What else could people do?
That's a good thing.
It's a good question.
And I don't know that I have the answer.
Obviously, that's why I went on OnlyFans.
I think that you need to start off with a base of people knowing who you are in your community.
And I think that's lacking in today's politics.
You go into politics and that's when you want your name out there.
I think we need to be focused on people who are actually going out into the community and solving problems.
If you're going to elect somebody I would say that that would be the person I'd want to support and go after.
So I don't know I really don't have like some kooky idea on how you can get earned media other than just doing the things.
And unfortunately doing the things doesn't get you there.
I went to plenty of commission meetings and you know spoke up and tried to help people and the media just isn't covering it.
I think the system is broken beyond belief and I wish I had a great answer for you.
I don't.
unidentified
All right.
Well, one follow up there.
How successful was it?
Doing that.
I mean, we measure everything in metrics.
martha bueno
I mean.
Absolutely.
So one metric you use.
The metric I used is how much money it would have cost me to get that same media.
So for example, I was featured on Univision for about five minutes.
Every 30 seconds of ad space on Univision is about $10,000.
So there you go.
That's one thing I got on Steven Crowder's show.
Um, you know, I think there's a whole bunch of eyeballs there.
I, you know, it's just I use the metric of how much it would have cost me to get onto those platforms to deliver this message.
So I think it was successful.
It was wildly successful.
Um, I, it was a long shot to win.
I was going against $2 million.
It was a 20 to 1 raise.
So it was, you know, you go against the machine.
Honestly, it showed me that there's a lot of corruption and I saw votes that were not counted.
I saw votes come in that there were more votes counted in some areas than ballots actually cast.
So the corruption is definitely there and I think it taught me that lesson.
So take it with a grain of salt.
I think that I'd love to encourage people to go out and run for office, but honestly, I'm a Debbie Downer on this one now.
ian crossland
Did you just do OnlyFans for a short period of time?
martha bueno
Yeah.
ian crossland
Was it sex stuff on OnlyFans?
martha bueno
It was.
So you missed the video.
We watched it earlier.
I put four videos out there.
The main one was basically, it was shot to look like porn, but I was fully dressed on a bed at the Trump National in Doral in Miami.
And, you know, it was basically like I was taking a phone call from my opponent and I was talking Sort of dirty to him.
You know selling him.
Oh you took campaign donations from you know you actually he gave money from his campaign donations to Democrats as a Republican and it was actually worse than that we couldn't really put it in the video, but he gave money to people who Specifically are endorsed by I forget the name of the list that like it's if you have to be a hundred percent for abortion up to the day that child is born to be on this list and he gave money to those candidates so he's effectively taking money from people who let's presume are Republicans that you know are giving him money because they want him to win and he's funneling it to Democrats who are
Have these opposite values.
So the video was that was basically me just like oh you're so you know, how kinky of you to do that It was a little sexual in nature.
Not really, but it was fun.
tim pool
It was a series of four videos all about just different things The one that was taken down that they didn't let me actually air was too spicy for only fans was the one where I was shooting guns and I just want to mention this because I'm reading, as you're talking about, the American Revolution, and I'm just reading this really funny thing about Lexington and Concord.
It increased, it's not pulled up here, it's on my phone, it increased support for the revolution as one of the things that showed American citizens that they could stand up to redcoats, something that was doubted by many on both sides.
It's really funny when people are like, there can never be a civil war or a revolution, the military is too strong, it's like, You're just saying the same old shit they said before the American Revolution, during the Civil War.
None of that shit matters.
When confidence in the system breaks down, it doesn't matter if someone thinks they can win or not, shit starts flying in the air.
martha bueno
I think that's what the Twitter files did.
tim pool
Let me just ask you like, anyone who's ever engaged in warfare, do they think they're going to die?
And the issue is, I think when it comes to actual conflict with death on the line, you're not thinking about whether you're gonna die or not, you're thinking about what the fight is.
ian crossland
Tim Ballard was saying that when he gets in the moment, all it is is the mission, the activity, there's no fear, and then afterwards is when PTSD kicks in and you feel all the fear that you would have been feeling as a civilian in that situation.
phil labonte
If you're in a situation like that, like a combat situation, and you're trained, the thing you're thinking about is the stuff you have to do.
Because that, like, that's the stuff that's gonna save your life, right?
Like, there is a right way, there's a correct way to respond to things that happen.
So there's a correct way to respond to an L-shaped ambush, right?
And if everybody does what they're supposed to do, most of the people that get ambushed will survive.
Not everybody, but most of the people.
That's the thing.
You have to know what you're supposed to do for the specific situation you're in, which is why training's so important.
Like, when I talk about, like, I'm not in the military and I and I don't do any kind of like stuff like that in real life, but like I still carry a gun so I go and train at least once a year and I talk about training all the time and I dry fire because if you're going to have a gun or be in that kind of situation, if it comes up, you're going to be thinking about what is my training.
You're going to default to the lowest level of training and and everything is what that's what you're focused on.
The whole world is focused on the training, so.
tim pool
Cenoski, did you want to add anything?
unidentified
Uh, just one last thing.
This is your daily reminder.
Uh, go to the discord.
We got a lot of stuff going on all the time now.
Um, tonight's after show is going to probably be a good one.
I'm hosting it.
phil labonte
Awesome.
tim pool
Cool.
unidentified
Uh, we, we always encourage lounge members and really anyone to upgrade to the next year if they can.
Uh, it just helps us do more and we always welcome more people to join the community.
tim pool
Right on, man.
Awesome.
That's really cool.
I really appreciate you guys doing all that stuff, and that's the mission.
So, awesome.
Thanks for calling in.
unidentified
Alright.
See you, dude.
Thank you.
phil labonte
Appreciate it.
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Alright, and last up, we have...
tim pool
Red Pill Kidder?
Is that what it is?
ian crossland
Kid Doctor.
tim pool
Kid Doctor?
Red Pill Kid Doctor.
Is that what it is?
Oh, that's right.
unidentified
That's what it is.
tim pool
That's what it is.
What up?
Welcome to the show.
ian crossland
Actual Kid Doctor.
unidentified
Thanks.
I was trying for Red Pill Pediatrician, but there was too many letters.
phil labonte
There's a lot of letters in that.
tim pool
How's it going?
unidentified
So, it's going okay.
You know, it's still holding the line in the communist state of New York.
I called in about a month ago.
And talked about something completely different.
We're still planning our escape.
So my question for all y'all is, with all the talk about civil war and friendly divorce, what are your thoughts about if we just broke up into many smaller states with the idea being that, you know, we fought a war because we didn't want to be controlled by people who live far away that don't share our culture values.
But like, for example, here on Eastern Long Island, it's very right-wing, it's very red, very libertarian, very, you know, but we live under the boot of people that live five hours away that don't share anything with us culturally.
tim pool
Sounds like American revolutionary sentiment.
There's no peaceful breakup.
There will be war.
unidentified
Well, I'm hoping that maybe it could be peaceful if we just broke, like New York could break up into four states, and if you like living under progressive values, you can live in the city, but if you don't, it's easier to move.
tim pool
It's not possible.
There's never going to be an instance where the wealthy people in New York let their slaves leave.
And that means that any kind of referendum in your jurisdiction will result in them saying, this is an illegal referendum and it's thrown in the garbage.
And if people on Eastern Long Island start filing petitions with their councils, their committees, their state senators or whatever, and they formally declare secession, then you will get state troops coming in and arresting those people.
That's just the way it goes.
In the event, somehow, the structure of a single state breaks down, you'll have resource wars.
Because there are people who are going to be in New York City who are dependent upon some kind of resource or product that comes from Eastern Long Island that they're used to getting, that is no longer part of their routine.
So, as for the states, the big issue primarily is the wealthy benefactors will not let their slaves leave.
It's never going to happen.
And the federal government will always defend, especially with New York, the wealthy elites.
The ultra-rich in New York who are basking in the glories and riches of their slaves in other parts of the state.
Ain't never gonna let you go, and they will get help from the National Guard or whoever they need to.
You'll get some leader who's gonna be like, we filed the paper, we got all the signatures, and we hereby have the legal process by which we will now file lawsuit, and we will win, and we will break apart our region from the state to create a new state, and then what'll happen is he'll get mugged.
He'll be walking down the street, and then he'll be found dead.
And they'll be like, that's strange, they didn't take his wallet, but just a mugging.
Ain't no way they're gonna let that happen.
martha bueno
What about the idea of how the United States started?
We're supposed to be like 50 independent nations, you know, the federal government has really grown too big, but what about that idea of the 50 individual states?
tim pool
The Confederate States of America failed.
They had no enforcement authority, and they were weak, and this resulted in, uh, what, uh, 13 years after, uh, well, I guess this is technically six years after the Treaty of, uh, I think it's the Treaty of Paris, which, uh, resulted in the independent nation of the United States.
They were like, hey, this idea of a loose network of states that do their own thing is failing.
And so they, and some argue through bullshit means, created a new government, which is the United States.
It used to be the Articles of Confederation.
Then they created the Constitution.
There were, you know, the Federalists and the Anti-Federalists, and there was an argument over the centralized power will result in another king, just like we already had.
And so it was, I think the Anti-Federalists were the ones who got the Bill of Rights made, basically saying, okay, fine, we'll agree to this so long as we are guaranteed these rights and you can't fuck with us.
And then you got this compromise which led to a stronger federal government and control.
And that's why I think what Washington, was it 1889?
1789 is when the Constitution was ratified, yeah.
Well, but, uh, so when Washington became president, he served as- That's when- I think that's when the United States- 1798.
98, okay.
Uh, no, no, I'm sorry.
Yeah, 89.
I was correct.
April 30th, 89, was the first president of the United States.
So we won our- we declared our independence in 1776, we won it in 83, and it wasn't until 89 we actually got our first president.
Why?
Uh, because they were like, yo, these articles of confederation don't work.
So a lot of people keep saying this stuff that we should go back to states' rights and individual rights.
To a certain degree, I do agree with that.
But consider what that means when it comes to abortion.
It means that Colorado can say, this is not human life, and Oklahoma can say, this is human life.
And now you've got a really serious fucked up problem for people who live close to the- on the border of those states, when each state determines that you are or are not worthy of constitutional rights.
If the federal government says we guarantee these rights to humans, but states are allowed to determine who is human and who is not, y'all are about to go into a fucking civil war or something.
It's just, that's a huge component of the first one.
So, a lot of people talk about peaceful divorce, it's not possible.
Because of resource wars.
Right now we've got states that want water from other states.
California's dependent upon Colorado, Arizona, Nevada, etc.
If there's no agreement at a higher level, then they just start shooting each other.
unidentified
I mean I don't mean peaceful divorce like what I mean is like how if we broke up into smaller states we could have more local control still be part of the United States it's just like we could have a hundred states we would just have more stars on the flag but I agree we would have more of a sense of Controlling our neighbors, our government, are the people that are within a closer radius, which means they usually match our cultural morals and beliefs better.
tim pool
That doesn't change the fact that you have two warring factions in one country.
Yeah, it doesn't matter how many states you have.
And I gotta ask, if we were to do as you described and many people have suggested would say like the state of Jefferson or greater Idaho, it results in more Republican control, which would then create pressures on the left who are already violent lunatics.
And it would just exacerbate risk of conflict.
So that's why I'm like, it's got to be a cultural victory.
And I think I think we're seeing all of that happen.
unidentified
Yeah, because I know a couple of years ago Long Island made a push for breaking away because we're the only part of the state that pays more in taxes than we get in benefits from the state.
Like New York City, they pay a lot more in taxes, but they're also a much bigger burden on the state
government because of their crime and homeless and all of that.
And then upstate, they don't pay as much in taxes because their property values are lower,
but they also use very few resources compared to the city.
And then out here in Long Island, we're kind of in the worst of both worlds,
where we pay a lot in taxes because our property values are high, but we're pretty
independent-minded, self-sufficient people, so we don't use the kind of benefits
on the scale that the city does.
tim pool
And so this is true for a lot of jurisdictions.
Northern Colorado wants to break away.
Northern California wants to break away.
The issue is the wealthy elites won't give up their slaves.
And if there was a breakaway, it would result in lopsided power in the federal government
in favor of the right, which the left would then be like, minority government, minority rule, and...
You know, it'd result in conflict and crisis.
So, on the surface, I'm saying, yeah, absolutely.
You know, this country is founded upon people saying we have the right to govern ourselves.
The idea that Eastern Oregon can't just leave when they vote for it is fucking insane.
They say, we determine how we're governed, and we don't recognize your authority, and we're going to work with someone else.
Nope!
The federal government has to approve of your, uh, of your, you know, regions of grievances.
Nah.
I don't know though.
I do think it's a good idea if we weren't on the verge of serious conflict, but where we are now, I don't know where this goes, and I don't know how you get something like that passed.
unidentified
Yeah.
I just want to make a quick point about what you were just talking about, how people forget that the Revolutionary War took a lot longer than they thought.
Yeah.
And, you know, working in pediatrics, I have a lot of people come and say, oh, well, I'm, you know, I'm afraid to have children in this kind of environment.
Where am I, you know, You know, that kind of thing.
That thought comes up a lot.
Everybody hears that a lot.
And what I like to point out to them is it's very often the children that are raised under those situations that turn out to be the ones that get us out of it.
Like, it was the children that were born in the U.S.
and grew up under, well, born in, you know, the colonies and grew up under the tyranny that 20 years later became the young men that shed blood and fought in the Revolutionary War.
It wasn't that a bunch of adults came over here from England and then a year later said, oh, we don't like this.
We're going to fight a war.
No, it was their children who were born and raised here that grew up under that tyranny, that British tyranny.
And said, no way.
And that's what I see a lot with like, you know, I have a 14 year old son and that's what I see so much with this generation is like, they're going to be the ones to get us all out of this.
They are so, you know, a lot more than we give them credit for.
tim pool
I agree.
unidentified
And if you're a Revolutionary War buff, there's a great show called Turn.
It's an older show.
It was on AMC and then it was on Netflix.
Now you can get it on Amazon.
But it's a really enjoyable fictionalization of the Culper spy ring that brought down Benedict Arnold.
And the characters are really engaging.
It's like really good for a modern audience, but it's an awesome series.
tim pool
Right on.
phil labonte
Cool.
tim pool
Cool.
Check it out.
Well, thanks for calling in.
ian crossland
Yeah, big time.
unidentified
Thanks so much!
phil labonte
Cheers, thank you.
Alright.
tim pool
Alright everybody, we have a really awesome show tomorrow on The Culture War.
We have Brianna Wu and Hat Man, which I will be completely honest and say I am absolutely less familiar with.
I know of Brianna Wu because of GamerGate and other cultural issues.
It's Alex Baldwin, the Hat Man.
And we're gonna be discussing, uh, it's supposed to be discussing, you know, modern video games and GamerGate, but I guess Brianna Wu has tweeted that she wants to debate Civil War and stuff, which I'm always excited to and open to, considering it's exactly what we're talking about right now.
So tomorrow, 10 a.m., youtube.com slash TimCats.
It's gonna be a lot of fun.
Martha, thanks for hanging out.
It's been a blast.
martha bueno
Thank you so much for having me.
tim pool
And, absolutely.
And for all of you as members!
Seriously, really do appreciate it, as always.
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