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Sept. 11, 2023 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - Gun Owners DEFY Democrat Gun Ban, Sheriff REFUSES To Enforce NM Decree w/Libby Emmons
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hannah claire brimelow
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ian crossland
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libby emmons
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tim pool
Peace out yo!
And if you possess them, you will be in trouble.
There was a suggestion it would be a misdemeanor, but it may now be a citation.
We'll see how it plays out.
And the reason for this could be because a whole bunch of dudes showed up with guns in Albuquerque and said, nah, you can't do this.
In fact, the backlash has been so severe that even Democrats, nay, even David Hogg himself, said you can't do this and we were all really impressed and surprised because apparently they don't remember what they said during COVID.
David Ogg said that there's no public health exemption to the constitution and during COVID that's exactly what they did.
But anyway, the New Mexico governor tried to to ban guns by decree and it's not working.
However, there are rumors circulating, there's a local paper, I haven't been able to verify this, saying that a spokesperson said, those who defied the order and openly cared will have enforcement actions taken against them, but we will see if this plays out.
I don't have a very good source outside of this local paper.
But I don't want to be smirched.
They're a good name.
It's just, I want to make sure we're being very careful here.
In other news, Joe Biden skipped the 9-11 memorial today, and he's the first president to do so.
It's shocking, and I gotta be completely honest, I'm personally offended by that.
There's this really great story that we'll talk about when we get into this about a man who sacrificed his life, and there were many, many people who sacrificed their lives, but not only in the short term by running back into those buildings to save people, The people who were doing cleanup after the fact, who had permanent lung damage and cancer and injuries, and they risked everything on that day to save as many people as possible.
So the least you'd think a president could do is just be there in New York to say that, you know, this means something to us.
But he didn't!
And that's just offensive.
Donald Trump wants the judge, Chutkan, to recuse herself, so we'll talk about that.
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Joining us today to talk about this and so much more is Libby Emmons.
libby emmons
That's me.
tim pool
It's her birthday.
libby emmons
It's my birthday and here I am.
I'm Libby Emmons.
I'm with the Postmillennial and HumanEvents.com.
Glad to be here.
I'm totally going to be at your show in October in Miami.
I'm really stoked.
tim pool
Yeah, I don't want to say too much just yet because we have a bunch of special guests who are going to be there, but I'm hoping the Fresh and Fit dudes will be there because they're in Miami already and we talked to them.
You're going to be there.
There's actually more than just the people on stage who are going to be there, so I think maybe we'll put together a list so you know because you could end up hanging out with a bunch of cool people that you're fans of outside of the show.
libby emmons
Plus the Vulcan one was super fun.
I had a great time at that show.
tim pool
That was chaos.
libby emmons
Yeah, it was chaos.
At one point you called me up on stage and I didn't hear you because I was chilling with Savannah Hernandez.
tim pool
Yeah, I was like, just let me hear you.
At this point, it might get wild because there's going to be so many people at the Miami show who are, it's not just, like it's Don Jr., Patrick David, Matt Gaetz.
But there's going to be like, I think 10 or 15 other people.
libby emmons
A bunch of us are going.
We're all stoked.
Yeah.
tim pool
So, you know, and then we'll probably just pull people up on stage because the conversation is a conversation.
But, uh, but yeah, happy birthday.
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
Thank you.
tim pool
Yeah.
libby emmons
This is my birthday.
tim pool
What a day.
Uh, we got Hannah Clare hanging out.
hannah claire brimelow
Hey, I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.
I'm happy to be back.
I'm really hoping that Libby will do her impression of her grandfather at some point today.
libby emmons
Oh, my grandfather used to call and wish me a happy birthday.
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
Yeah.
Can I do it?
ian crossland
Yeah.
libby emmons
You want to hear it?
So my grandfather's from New York.
He was born and raised in New York.
He was born in Little Italy, downtown.
And he used to call me on my birthday after 9-11 and he'd be like, Sweetheart, I know it's a terrible day, but happy birthday.
unidentified
I'm so glad you're here to celebrate with us.
libby emmons
I kind of loved it just because for the sweetheart, you know, but you know, yeah, thank you.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, I'm glad you're here.
I don't feel like I don't have to say it, but I'm a writer for TimCast.com.
I'm glad to be here.
Ian's here too.
ian crossland
Dude, I didn't know your birthday was September 11th until just now.
libby emmons
Oh yeah, it's my birthday!
ian crossland
Did it mess you up?
libby emmons
I was already messed up.
ian crossland
Let's talk about September 11th on the show a little bit.
tim pool
We're definitely going to because of the Joe Biden thing, but we were talking a little bit beforehand, and it's really interesting to hear your story about... I can tell you about my whole day.
Yeah, we'll get into it.
It's the famous saying, everyone remembers where they were when 9-11 happened.
libby emmons
My mom has told me about where she was when Kennedy got shot.
I don't remember, but she told me about it.
tim pool
Yeah, and it was your birthday.
It was my birthday.
I don't want to spoil it, but immediately asked a question and Libby was like, yeah, started laughing, but we'll get into it.
We'll save it.
We got Serge hanging out.
serge du preez
What's up, guys?
I am back.
I'm ready for this one.
You are, Tim.
Let's go.
tim pool
Let's go.
This is awesome.
This is the coolest thing ever.
From K.O.B.
4, gun owners rally in Old Town to protest public health order.
You know, they don't want to, just call it what it is.
The headline should read, gun owners defy unconstitutional and criminal action by governor.
But maybe a little bit strong for me, but I think that's the fair headline.
You've got this video, we've got Ford Fisher as well.
Many people openly carrying in defiance of the governor's decree.
Good for them.
And the police are basically backing away from this.
They're saying, not that they're not going to enforce it, the statement from the sheriff was effectively that, but it was a little tepid.
So we'll see.
They say more than a hundred people openly carried guns in Old Town as they protested Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham's recent controversial move on firearms.
You see, they try very hard to avoid calling it what it is.
We're not here to cause any issues.
We're just here to, you know, express our amendment rights.
And you know we'll go from there.
It was a rally against part of Grisham's public health emergency on gun violence Specifically the part where she banned carrying guns, either through open or concealed carry, permits in Bernalillo County and the city of Albuquerque for 30 days.
No constitutional right, in my view, including my oath, is intended to be absolute.
There are restrictions on free speech.
There are restrictions on freedom.
That's what she said.
My jaw dropped for a second amendment to be suspended.
It's unconstitutional.
We got to put it that way.
A lot of people feel that way, said Derek.
Now here's the funny thing about no, no rights are absolute.
Yes, it means due process of law.
Not I hereby decree you can't keep and bear arms in defiance of your own state's constitution and your federal constitution, our federal constitution.
So this is the story that we got.
Sheriff of New Mexico's most populous county rejects governor's gun ban, calling it unconstitutional.
Reject.
Because what does that really mean?
The current rumor that we're hearing, and I think I have it here from the paper, I don't know what this publication is.
I'm not familiar with it.
I don't know how accurate this is.
All I know is this is being circulated.
It may or may not be true.
Take it with a grain of salt.
However, in it, They say that they reached out, it's the paper in Albuquerque, that's what it's called, the paper, reached out to Carolyn Sweeney, a Lujan Grisham spokeswoman, who said, So I'm wondering if the move they make is to pull up videos of people who were openly carrying and then privately go after them.
To ensure officer safety, we will not be providing additional details at this time.
So I'm wondering if the move they make is to pull up videos of people who were openly
carrying and then privately go after them.
So imagine this.
Someone goes to the rally and they're openly carrying legally, but the governor has issued
a decree.
They're on camera.
Facial recognition, whatever, they know who the person is.
They issue a warrant for their arrest and under what, you know, under what law or whatever, it's not going to be for open carrying, there's going to be some violation like defiance of public health emergency, section whatever.
The cops are going to show up to the guy's house and say, we have a warrant for your arrest for, you know, defiance of executive order and lists a bunch of charges, none of which will be having a gun.
The person's going to be like, what are you talking about?
And the cop's going to say, listen, man, I don't know who you are.
I don't know what you did.
I know you're under arrest.
So while many people are saying the cops won't enforce this, cops will defy it.
I'm like, yeah, but what happens when some random 28-year-old cop is told we got a warrant for a guy on disorderly conduct?
Felony disorderly on state grounds.
And he goes, sounds good to me.
They're going to start getting arrested.
But we'll see.
I'm glad to see that people are standing up to this.
It's blowing up in the governor's face.
Democrats are angry about it, but you know.
libby emmons
Well, it should, it should blow up in the governor's face.
This is another one of these lead through crisis situations.
We saw this with Biden, we saw this Kamala Harris was talking about this.
They were listing off, you know, this was pre-COVID even, they were listing off Public health emergencies.
They were talking about climate change, public health emergency, racism.
Then they threw COVID into the mix.
They threw guns into the mix.
And it's like you were saying, like, as soon as you declare something a public health emergency, they start suspending all of our civil liberties.
And you remember, even during COVID, you had sheriffs and police officers saying that they were not going to enforce lockdown orders, but people were getting arrested anyway.
You know, there's still people who get who have been charged with that stuff and been prosecuted.
And that stuff stands.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, and I would say I love two-way people.
Like, this idea that there's just a bunch of them, like, openly carrying guns and everything is fine.
Like, you're not hearing anything about any violence that came out of this rally.
I think it's such an interesting display because if the government of New Mexico is taking such a drastic and expansive interpretation of public health emergency, it's cool to see them say, well, we're just going to protest and demonstrate publicly rather than say, well, I'm scared of what'll happen.
I think that's the sort of only, I don't know, white pill in this
situation.
libby emmons
The other thing too, though, is remember in Lansing, Michigan in April 2020,
you had a lot of people showing up at the Capitol saying, we're opposed to lockdown orders, we're not going to do
this anymore.
They went into the Capitol and they were called white supremacists.
You know, these people are gonna get called names.
And the other thing, too, is like, even if they're out there today, and the sheriff says, oh, maybe we're not gonna prosecute, you don't know.
Like, they could come to your door in two months.
There's people now getting arrested for 9-11.
They've arrested over 1,200 people for that.
You don't even know.
unidentified
9-11?
9-11.
libby emmons
Whatever it is.
hannah claire brimelow
Not 9-11.
ian crossland
It is obnoxious to use dates to reference events.
libby emmons
There's only a couple of people who were arrested now for 9-11 and they haven't been prosecuted.
So they're still hanging out in Guantanamo and prosecutors are looking at plea deals for those people.
hannah claire brimelow
But don't worry, we got all of the January 6th people.
libby emmons
I have 9-11 in my head because it's my birthday.
tim pool
I've heard stories of people who were on the Capitol grounds That nothing ever happened.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
So, like, a year ago, there were stories people would say where it's like, oh, I knew someone who was at that rally, and they were walking on the grass, but they never got charged or arrested.
They'll show up at your house.
libby emmons
Well, and then they just arrested Owen Schroyer.
They had arrested him previously.
hannah claire brimelow
He's getting sentenced tomorrow.
libby emmons
They're trying to sentence him to, like, what, 120 days?
He didn't go into the Capitol.
He was hanging out outside.
And part of the things that they— And yelling.
And yelling.
tim pool
Generic, anti-establishment, like, revolutionary commentary.
And then the sentencing— Well, I think he said, death to tyrants.
libby emmons
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
And he said the Democrats were tyrants.
I mean— Yeah.
libby emmons
But in the sentence, they also referenced things that he said on air.
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
I mean, before and after.
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
If you read the statement from the DOJ, they say in the months leading up and they said he he made January 6th.
I mean, they are trying to make another person they're pinning this on.
And, you know, rightly so.
His attorney has responded with you are trying to use to violate his free speech rights and to make this more than what it is.
They also say, you know, he's been on pretrial like supervised pretrial Supervision for the last two years.
tim pool
So surely he shouldn't have to also go to jail, but this is what people in New Mexico need to think about as well one.
I think it's good that people are Democrats are on board with rejecting the governor's decree.
So they're probably these people who protested probably be totally safe if these rumors are true.
It's going to get scary because it's not going to be a cop showing up saying, you defied the governor's order and carried a weapon.
You're under arrest.
And then the person films themselves.
They're like, look what's happening now.
It's going to be like, you have a bench warrant for your arrest.
unidentified
Why?
tim pool
What did I do?
That's for the court.
I don't know, man.
All I know is I got, I'm told you got a warrant and you're coming with me.
libby emmons
I've been rereading the trial, the Kafka novel, and this guy gets arrested and he gets put on trial and they never tell him the charges.
unidentified
Right.
libby emmons
They never tell him what he did wrong and he's trying to navigate the court and figure things out and trying to like understand how he's being treated, trying to navigate having a job.
He doesn't want to tell anybody that this is happening to him because he's embarrassed and he's ashamed.
Everywhere he looks and the more he The more he digs into his trial and what's going on, the more he realizes that literally everyone is against him.
Everyone has been spying on him this whole time.
And it just has seemed like the exact right time to reread the trial.
And the more I listen to it, because I've been doing it on audiobooks, the more I listen to it, I'm just like, dang, Kafka knew what he was talking about exactly.
We're looking at this now.
ian crossland
What was his political...
Yeah, what year, what country was he from?
libby emmons
He was from the Czech Republic, then Czechoslovakia.
He lived in Prague.
He was basically an insurance clerk who was writing on the side.
I don't know what his political leanings were.
He was essentially anti-authoritarian.
unidentified
Was he during the Soviet era?
libby emmons
When was he writing?
What was it like?
ian crossland
Franz Kafka.
libby emmons
Thirties?
ian crossland
1880 to 1925.
There you go, yeah.
libby emmons
He's only 40.
Yeah, I was reading him in high school because I was really intrigued by a couple of his stories.
Metamorphosis and The Hunger Artist were the ones that really I was like, whoa, what's that about?
And then The Castle.
But yeah, he was anti-authoritarian.
And if you look at his work, it's just like this crushing state.
And there you are, just this individual trying to have an existence.
You know and in many cases just a quiet existence without being bothered without being any you know in trouble at all without having anybody come at you and it's just the state swirls around you eat you up and destroys you.
tim pool
I think a lot of people have this misunderstanding about how the system works when it's working against you.
I think a lot of people, especially people who watch the show, probably get it.
But I feel like the average person, they assume that if you do something wrong, you know, the cops show up and they say you did something wrong, they don't realize that sometimes you're in the wrong place at the wrong time and you get arrested for no reason.
There's a guy at Occupy Wall Street who, this is a hilarious story by the way, he's a middle-aged guy wearing a suit with gray hair.
And he is inside a bodega, for those that don't know, a corner store, buying an orange, I think it was a Fanta.
The police use that orange kettling net, they call it, to wrap around protesters.
So, to stop people from leaving, when they say it's an unlawful assembly and you're all under arrest, the cops go from one side of the building and they make a half-moon around all these people and the door.
And the guy walks out of the convenience store, drinking his orange Fanta on break from work, and he's confused, like, what's going on?
Why am I in this thing?
He can't go back inside.
They're like, no, you can't come in.
And then he goes to the cop and says, hey, I was just in the store buying a drink.
And they're like, shut your mouth.
And he's like, I'm not a protester.
I'm just a guy on break.
I'm drinking.
They're like, you're under arrest.
Shut your mouth.
Most of the cops holding the netting won't say anything.
He yells at the supervisor.
They ignore him.
He got arrested.
libby emmons
He got arrested for literally drinking an orange Fanta.
tim pool
Because he walked out of a store into the area they had corralled, and the police said, anyone inside this is under arrest.
Even though they got some guy who was just drinking a soda.
Doesn't matter.
And so he goes to jail.
He can't tell his work what happened.
And this is what I was told, right?
He was at a meeting in the city screaming at the top of his lungs To the police about what they had done to him and the cops just like we literally do not care what you think It's a it's a city of millions of people and you are one guy with no authority and no power so you can shut your mouth You're meaningless.
libby emmons
They didn't say that literally, but that's what they that's basically it And they just paid off BLM protesters who were torching cop cars.
Well, this was millions of dollars.
Yeah, I know, but they just did this right.
They paid off protest.
They're not protesters.
They're like militant BLM rioters.
They paid them off millions of dollars.
tim pool
There's a lot of stories like that where the police arrest random people.
There was a guy named Alex Arbuckle who is taking pictures of Occupy Wall Street.
He's standing on the sidewalk.
When the protesters get, you know, circled or whatever, and a cop walks up to him while he's not part of the protest and on the sidewalk away from the protest and arrests him.
He was, uh, a different officer was told to sign for the arrest and fabricate a statement as to why he should be arrested.
And the fabricated statement was that he was obstructing the roadway, like all the other protesters.
The funny thing is, this guy went down there to tell the police's side of the story on the protests because he felt it wasn't being accurately portrayed.
And, uh, I was live streaming everything that happened at the time.
And I filmed the illegal arrest.
The officer who lied under oath never got any accountability.
So two officers fabricated the charges against him.
And this guy, cold wake-up call, the cops just made it up.
I think that one of the problems we face with a lot of what's going on with tyranny is density.
Like, a lot of the problems that emerge that we complain about in terms of weird, progressive, cult-like behavior is just density of cities and then an inability for people to... Like, how you deal with 300 violent protesters throwing bottles and rocks at cops Well, like, this is a group of people doing this.
We gotta arrest them.
Uh-oh.
There were two guys in there who were wrongly roped in.
What do you do?
Do you then go through it?
Like, what do you do?
Check all the phones for videos of everyone?
So they just say, we don't care?
ian crossland
Yeah, I think the problems of corruption at the top is due to density, too.
Because when you know everybody you're working with, all 60 of your people, you have a personal relationship with everybody.
You can make sure that everyone's needs are met, that if there's a problem with one of them, it can be, you know, dealt with.
But if there's 300 million people that you're trying to govern, It just becomes numbers, man.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, that's what Lujan Grisham is doing too, right?
She's saying, anyone who is interested in having a gun is potentially dangerous and therefore I'm going to carry this out on all citizens.
I mean, it's a complete overreach and that's similar to the position the cops take.
We've decided there's a crisis and so we don't care about the nuance.
tim pool
Let's think about it this way.
The order that was given by Grisham is that if there's like something like 1,000 deaths, or it's like some capacity, like if there's a number of deaths related to guns, at this number, you can't have a gun there, which basically is Albuquerque and Bernalillo.
So, think about it this way.
Let's say for every 100 citizens you have, every year there's one gun murder.
That's a lot!
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
Okay, but hold on.
Let's say that there's a town of 100 people, and every year one person dies in a shooting.
It's shocking, but one murder is not going to shock the minds of every single, of the town.
libby emmons
They're gonna be- Well, in Iceland, they have like four murders a year.
tim pool
And it's substantially less people.
So the issue is when, if, it's what I have to talk about with the scaling problem.
If one per, let's say 0.1% of your population is killed in a gun, by violence every year.
So let's say for every thousand people, one person dies.
No one's gonna blame guns.
They're gonna say this murder is unconscionable.
Now let's say you have a million people.
Okay, now all of a sudden you've got, what, 10,000?
Am I doing my math wrong?
Or a thousand?
You have a thousand deaths.
Now you ban guns because there's a gun problem.
A thousand people dying is terrifying, even though it's the same proportionality.
So this is the problem of mass density in these cities.
It may be that people are dying, probably dying at lower rates, percentage-wise, due to gun violence than ever before, but there's more gun deaths than ever before.
There's more people and more guns.
ian crossland
And more media in the hands of the mother of the kid that was killed or the cousin of the guy that got shot.
Like, back in the day, you'd get a news report about it, maybe.
unidentified
It would be like a police blotter.
libby emmons
I remember always checking the police blotter.
ian crossland
You'd get viral Twitter posts that 100 million people see and stuff that freaks people out over and over.
tim pool
And pre-2000, if someone got shot, they're gonna die.
Your chances of getting paramedics there, you're running to find a payphone.
When I was a teenager, I watched a woman have some kind of stroke.
And I'm 16, no cell phones.
I mean, people had cell phones at the time, like, but- They weren't ubiquitous.
Right.
I had to run into a bank and it was like, I run into a bank and I was like, I need help.
And there was a guy speaking, he goes, excuse me, we're in the middle of a meeting.
I'm like, a lady just collapsed!
And then they stand up and then they called 911 or whatever.
But like, if I had a cell phone, like if it's today, I went to someone's phone, I'd go to my phone right away.
libby emmons
Right.
tim pool
So that, you know, but that means you probably have more people dying.
Like, in the 90s.
And you could probably see, you know, homicides going down.
You actually can because of cell phones.
But now, because we have more and more people, she's justifying the amount of people as the reason why to ban guns.
libby emmons
But also, you know, criminals aren't going to care.
They're going to carry guns anyway.
tim pool
Oh, as always.
libby emmons
That's always the thing.
tim pool
Well, let's talk about the... Go ahead.
Oh, I was going to say, let's jump to the story about Owen Schroer.
This is a big one.
Owen Schroer responds to the DOJ sentencing recommendation.
You know, when I saw this story, we know that Owen Schroyer is being targeted because of his speech.
He was on the Capitol grounds, he did not go in the building.
His charges are like misdemeanor trespass of some sort.
They want him to go to jail, prison, federal prison for three months, and the factors in the sentencing guidelines, recommendations, were his speech before, during, and after.
Shocking!
When I read what his response was, I thought it was very important, considering what's going on.
Let me read for you from TimCast.com.
Actually written by Hannah-Claire Brimelow.
hannah claire brimelow
Hey guys!
tim pool
Owen Schroer has asked the judge overseeing his sentencing to go against the recommendations submitted by the Department of Justice.
While in DC, Schroer told a crowd of people over a bullhorn, the Democrats are posing as communists, but we know what they really are.
They're just tyrants.
They're tyrants.
And so today, on January 6th, we declare death to tyranny, death to tyrants.
The DOJ asked the court to consider that Schroer's conduct on January 6, like the conduct of hundreds of other rioters, took place in the context of a large and violent riot that relied on numbers to overwhelm the police officers who were trying to prevent a breach of the Capitol building.
Alright, so here's where it gets good.
In their response to the government's proposed sentence, Schroer's attorneys argue the prosecution is taking direct aim at freedom of speech.
Quote, It seeks to penalize Mr. Schroer for his viewpoints, claiming apparently that his views are relevant offense conduct that must be considered in crafting a sentence sufficient, but not greater than necessary, to punish the crime to which Mr. Schroer pleaded guilty.
A single misdemeanor count of entering and remaining in a restricted building or grounds in violation of 18 U.S.C.
section 1752 A.1 says the responding statement from Schroyer's team.
That says it all.
What was Schroyer charged with?
Being in a restricted area.
That's it.
And for this, they drafted up this recommendation saying, his speech on his show said the election was stolen, that he hates tyranny, so he needs three months!
Hold on, hold on.
Was he charged with insurrection?
Was he charged with incitement?
No, he was charged with effectively trespass.
So in what way is it relevant?
It's because these people are cultists, it's entirely political, And I think this is another grain of sand in the heap of evidence.
We know that what they're doing to the January 6th individuals, not all of them, but many of them, if not the majority of them, and people like Owen Schroyer and Donald Trump and these others, is political persecution through prosecution for political power.
hannah claire brimelow
I think you're right.
I think Schreyer's experience is really interesting because there's obviously antipathy on the part of the government.
They want him to be yet another person who is dangerous and therefore needs to be locked up.
And I think ultimately it's really interesting.
He's being represented by Norm Pattis, who also represented Joe Biggs and Zach Reales, if I'm not mistaken.
These are very different cases.
Obviously, the Proud Boys were charged with seditious conspiracy, and you can argue if that was fair or right or not.
But in this case, he never entered the building.
He stood outside and yelled a bunch of stuff.
And they are saying, therefore, he deserves to go to jail on this charge.
libby emmons
It's a totally manufactured panic and it's interesting too because a lot of the January 6th people who have already been arrested, detained, prosecuted, charged, sentenced We're like the littler people, the people whose names you don't know, you know, like the grandmas from Illinois or whatever, who now don't really get a hearing.
You saw sometimes they would come on Tucker Carlson's show on Fox and they would talk about it and they would talk about what's going on with them.
But they were, you know, they were people whose names you didn't know.
And now they're using all of the precedents, all of the like heavy handed Yeah.
Prosecution that they staged against these smaller people who you didn't know whose cases only really Julie Kelly was
following Yeah
You know and they're using those same precedents to go after
people whose names you do know and they're gonna use those same precedents that they're doing now against Schreyer and
the Proud Boys and all Of those guys to go after Trump because it's the same judge
Yeah I mean she can is the same judge and
She can hates Trump has said that has her own opinions and then they're using all of this too to try and get Trump off
The ballot and I think it's very important to note that no one has been charged with insurrection
Like that's not if you go to a search It's just not there in the in the in the DOJ documents of
people charged with You know
tim pool
January 6th. I want to jump to the statement the DOJ made in their quote when they said
That they have to consider that Schreyer's conduct, like the conduct of hundreds of other rioters, took place in the context of a large and violent riot.
Heavens me.
Owen Schreyer yelled death to tyrants.
Shocking.
Wow.
I wonder how much prison time Ray Epps is going to get for literally telling people to go into the Capitol and then being there right when the barricade was torn down and they gave Joe Biggs 20 years.
So Ray Epps What's he gonna get, 50?
Life?
libby emmons
He's gonna get nothing!
You already saw the Washington Post, the New York Times, and everybody else coming out saying, like, Ray Epps did nothing wrong.
It's literally everybody else who did something wrong, even though we have videos, right?
hannah claire brimelow
But he is the one hero!
libby emmons
He's the one guy that we have seen, you know, doing the thing that they make.
hannah claire brimelow
But somehow he's defensible.
I think it's interesting too, like, the cops that gave the shaman a tour around the Capitol, I haven't heard anything about disciplinary action happening for them, right?
There is no fallout for people who, you know, whether we can say it was mistaken or on purpose, facilitated actual things that then people were sent to jail for.
libby emmons
Or the cop who shot an unarmed woman.
hannah claire brimelow
Nothing.
And that's crazy.
I think your point that they have been building up to this for so long is so interesting because often when I'm writing these stories, the statement comes across, and it's from the DOJ, that over a thousand people have been charged in connection with January 6, over 600 have been sentenced, and over 300 are in prison at this moment.
And when I read that sentence, I am horrified.
It's horrifying.
I feel that way because I obviously have one, I have a perspective on January 6th that, you know, left-wing mainstream media doesn't.
When they hear the same statistics that over 1,000 people have been charged, that over 600 people have been sentenced, and that over 300 are in jail, they think, good job, we're getting them.
But it's also so insane.
libby emmons
Like in Portland in the summer of 2020, they rioted for over 100 nights straight.
They tried to burn down a federal courthouse.
Donald Trump was like, we really should send in the National Guard.
And the governor was like, no, no, we hate you.
Don't send in the National Guard.
We would rather have our courthouse burned down.
You know, they tried to set fire to the mayor's apartment building while there were people in it.
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
And this is all totally fine.
And then we hit January, you know, 6, 2021.
They call it this.
They call it deadly riots.
It was literally one day.
It was one day.
hannah claire brimelow
Deadly riot caused by the police officer.
libby emmons
Right.
hannah claire brimelow
Also, where everyone went home by like, what, eight?
libby emmons
It was literally one day.
And they talk about, you know, people brought weapons.
There were, what, tasers and a fire extinguisher.
serge du preez
I love how they also say, like, they say, oh, there's no way that they would have been able to overthrow anything.
Don't they understand how this government thing works?
Like, you can't just take the building and overthrow everything.
And at the same time, they act like that's what would have happened.
libby emmons
And today, there were leftist agitators occupying House Speaker Kevin McCarthy's office.
Why are they not going to jail for 25,000 years?
tim pool
I think you meant insurrectionists.
libby emmons
Insurrectionists?
We always are going back and forth over what words to use for these psychotic people.
ian crossland
What those people were doing at Kevin McCarthy's office, just straight up on the table, is that legal?
libby emmons
I don't, I don't know.
I don't know.
ian crossland
Assuming everything's on the board and that we're following the law, are you allowed legally to go?
libby emmons
Are you allowed to go into your representative's office and sit there and refuse to move even after they try and tell you to leave?
tim pool
Well, it's trespassing.
libby emmons
It's, it's for sure trespassing.
I mean, how did, you know, I don't know.
They wanted, they wanted more foreign aid for AIDS medication.
ian crossland
So they're trespassing to make a noise.
libby emmons
For sure.
They were sitting there locking arms, refusing to leave, yelling, yelling about Kevin McCarthy.
ian crossland
I guess the answer is no, it's not legal.
tim pool
It's trespassing.
libby emmons
Yeah, it seems pretty trespitory to me.
hannah claire brimelow
Also, isn't that some of the risks of protesting, right?
Like, if you're choosing to protest, you obviously know there's a potential that you could, you know, be on property you're not supposed to.
I mean, nobody protests from their own living room.
ian crossland
It used to be getting arrested was good publicity back in the day.
It was a good way to get the newspapers.
libby emmons
Jane Fonda was getting arrested like every Friday or whatever it was when she was doing her climate protests outside of the Congress.
hannah claire brimelow
A bunch of celebrities like to get arrested when it's environmentalist related stuff.
But then we have this example where it's like we had one singular day and now we can never let it go.
And again, I know at this point we all admit- It's their fetish.
libby emmons
They fetishize.
unidentified
Right.
hannah claire brimelow
But where are the Black Lives Matter protest arrests, right?
What happens when it happens outside of D.C.?
libby emmons
Well, you see what happens to them.
They get let off.
They get very short sentences or they just get let off altogether.
hannah claire brimelow
And settlements from the city.
libby emmons
Settlements from the city, yeah.
We did a story, Hannah Nightingale at Post Millennial did a story last week about the huge amount of money that cities have been paying out to BLM and Antifa militant activists.
Um, compared to how much damage was done.
It was like $2 billion in insurance damage.
The most expensive riots in American history in 2020.
And cities have been paying out millions and millions of dollars to people for having arrested them.
One guy in LA got paid out like millions of dollars for being shot with a rubber bullet.
Now, do you remember the summer of 2020?
It was like, you know, defund police.
You have to use non-lethal crowd control.
So they use non-lethal crowd control and the city still has to pay out millions of dollars?
What the hell is that?
hannah claire brimelow
Because they're not supposed to be against that narrative where it's okay to be against whatever they have demonized anybody who went to January 6th.
I mean, even when you look at this now, a lot of the mainstream coverage of it has dropped the fact that, like, Trump held a peaceful rally where he talked and then later said, everyone go home, don't go there.
They just dropped it completely.
They act like people randomly showed up in D.C.
to riot.
And that's obviously not what happened.
But that's the narrative that they would like.
That's the history they would like to preserve that the BLM rioters were just You know, peacefully protesting while things burn.
libby emmons
No, the BLM rioters were involved in a public health emergency.
Remember?
Because racism was a bigger public health emergency than COVID.
hannah claire brimelow
That's so true.
libby emmons
I'm never forgiving the whole COVID thing.
I'm never getting over that.
ian crossland
On January 6th, there was some violence.
Obviously, some people rioted, smashed stuff up, fought.
unidentified
There was a riot, for sure.
libby emmons
A lot of people rioted.
ian crossland
So Owen going there and saying... It was a riot.
tim pool
Other side of the building.
ian crossland
Owen was on the other side where there were no riots?
tim pool
My understanding is that where Owen was with Alex Jones, it was just people walking around.
They were not at the area where people were smashing and throwing things at cops and stuff.
ian crossland
Trespassing, I get it.
Technically, I guess.
I can wrap my mind around it.
But for him to say Democrats are tyrants, death to kill them, kill the tyrants?
Is that what he said?
He said, these people are the tyrants, now kill the tyrants.
tim pool
That's kind of like saying, kill those people.
I don't disagree, but the way you phrased it is a bit unfair.
He said, he did say, Democrats are opposing us communists, but we know what they are, there's tyrants, death to tyranny, death to tyrants.
So I agree with what you're saying, but the way you said it was a little bit aggressive.
ian crossland
It wasn't like an imminent threat to violence, he wasn't calling like, I want you to go, this name, this person, at this place, kill, he wasn't saying that, so it wasn't illegal to say that, but if you say that in front of a mob, And then the mob gets angrier?
tim pool
I mean, are you- But it is like a, oh, won't someone rid me of this priest.
Right.
But regardless, what's he charged with?
ian crossland
Just trespassing.
tim pool
In which case, this is immaterial to his sentencing.
ian crossland
You're right.
libby emmons
His speech is not relevant.
tim pool
Right.
hannah claire brimelow
Unless he's charged with making threats, which he's not.
tim pool
But oh, won't someone rid me of this priest is not illegal.
You can argue irresponsible.
libby emmons
But they're doing this because they're also doing it to Trump.
Like, if you look at the indictment in Georgia, it references tweets that he made, like, oh, the Georgia ballot counting is being broadcast on OAN, and Fannie Willis says that's evidence of a conspiracy.
hannah claire brimelow
It doesn't make any sense.
libby emmons
I think the fact that— If you look at the, like, hundreds of counts, I think the fact that- A lot of them are social media posts.
tim pool
The DA in Georgia did not indict Loeffler, Perdue, and Graham shows.
It's entirely political to go after Trump's administration.
The grand jury voted to indict these sitting members, or at the time, these members of the Senate, and DA didn't do it.
Why?
Well, it doesn't serve her political purposes in any way.
The DA could still bring the charges.
The grand jury voted to indict.
libby emmons
Right.
tim pool
But it looks like she's just going after the Trump administration and his lawyers.
Purely political.
libby emmons
Well, because they want to say that his campaign was a was a criminal conspiracy.
tim pool
Well, we saw you saw that post from Julie Kelly on Twitter that she was I think she was with Enrique Tarrio.
Somebody was.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
And Enrique was saying that they tried to get him to claim that, take a deal where he says he was working with Trump or Trump told him to do it.
libby emmons
Wasn't it Cara Castro Nueva at Gateway?
tim pool
Is that who said that?
libby emmons
I saw a tweet from Julie Kelly talking about it.
Yeah.
tim pool
That he was apparently told that when they arrested him, say that Trump, who was working with you, he told you to do something to that effect.
And when he said no, they were like, then you're going to go away for the rest of your life.
libby emmons
And they did flip the IT worker at Mar-a-Lago.
They flipped the IT worker at Mar-a-Lago, who's turning on Trump.
tim pool
It's really amazing to me that there are some people who have families, have children, and they look at a burning building, And they hear a little girl scream help and they say, I am going to run in that building.
Lord help me.
I will save that little girl.
Knowing they may die and leave behind their children to be fatherless and their wives to be widows, but they know what the right thing is to do.
And then there are people who are told, well, we'll lock you up.
You bet.
Do as you're told.
And they are completely unwilling to make any degree of sacrifice or stand up for anything.
They fall over.
They fold like cheap suits.
Let's jump to this story.
This next story from Newsweek.
Joe Biden commemorating 9-11 in Alaska.
Sparks backlash.
libby emmons
Isn't that where the third plane crashed?
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
The mysterious fifth helicopter.
libby emmons
Bill Biden was on it.
That's how Bill Biden died.
tim pool
Joe Biden did not go to New York for the 9-11 memorial.
It's the first president to skip it.
I think, I don't know if this is true, I saw a tweet that said that, or an expo, I'm sorry, said that the response was, 22 years after Pearl Harbor, presidents stopped going to Hawaii.
libby emmons
Is that what it was?
hannah claire brimelow
I saw that too.
tim pool
Yeah.
Okay, so I take offense to this.
libby emmons
I also take offense to this.
tim pool
And when you read the stories of 9-11, and most of us have read them to a great degree, especially the people who are watching, because some people have read too many stories about 9-11, and some people have read a healthy amount to better understand what happened, how it happened, and there's a lot of wild theories out there, but I think most of us, we've read quite a bit.
And you learn about the heroism.
My, uh, what's the word?
Oh, I can't think of the word.
But shout out, I'll just say that, to Jon Stewart for standing up for the 9-11 first responders who are not getting the... Oh, he did that a lot.
Right.
And it's brilliant because the men who rushed when people were running away...
Rightly so.
There were people who ran towards knowing what they had to do, knowing that they could leave their children behind to have no father, no mother, no family, but they had to save as many people as they could.
And Joe Biden wasn't even commemorating 9-11.
It's unfair to say that he did.
What was he doing?
Where he stopped in Alaska is a typical refueling port for Air Force One.
What really happened?
In my opinion, he was traveling back from Southeast Asia and stopped to refuel, and they were like, well, you might as well say something, and I was like, oh, okay, yeah, sure.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
tim pool
Kamala Harris went to New York instead.
libby emmons
That's an embarrassment.
She's an embarrassment.
She's a horror.
She should have absolutely no place near the White House ever under any circumstances.
hannah claire brimelow
And she typically doesn't.
I mean, the Joe Biden administration does not engage with Kamala that much.
She's so unpopular.
She was in charge of the border.
We never hear from her.
So to send her in his stead is like saying that's how much we don't care about this.
libby emmons
Right.
But also they try and get everyone to say the Biden-Harris administration.
That's what the press secretary says.
Biden-Harris.
I refuse to allow that.
hannah claire brimelow
That's because we're going into an election year and they're trying to be like, no, no, we have a woman of color on the ticket, so we're better.
It's just disgusting.
libby emmons
Yeah, she is absolutely horrifying.
tim pool
I want to give a shout out to Spike Cohen for this tweet, which I read, and it's very difficult to read.
And I pulled up the Wikipedia page for the man he wrote about, Ray Rescorla, and reading this story, Brings me to tears and fills me with rage at the same time that Joe Biden doesn't care.
Then there's arguments about like, well, but he had to give the speech in Vietnam or whatever.
It's like, you do not schedule things that interrupt you showing up to New York for a 9-11 memorial.
Whatever, whatever your thoughts about 9-11, the people posting World Trade Center 7 all day, it was trending regardless.
The people died that day.
People died afterwards.
People were sickly afterwards.
Dogs died.
Lives were sacrificed.
And this guy, Rick, Rick Rescorla, has one of the most incredible stories I've ever read.
I'll give you the simple version.
Security Guard, work at the World Trade Centers, is concerned about a terror attack potentially hitting the Trade Centers, has an assessment done.
They find that there is a huge risk in the basement.
A few years later, some dude tries to blow up the Trade Center by doing exactly what they were warned about.
He gets mad.
He begins these drills every three months, saying evacuations.
Why?
Because he worked for Morgan Stanley Security and they were the largest occupants of the South Tower.
When 9-11 happened, the North Tower gets hit.
He immediately goes to everyone and says, we practiced for this, we're getting out.
But on the PA, the Port Authority said to stay at your desks.
He calls his best friend and says that SOBs are telling us to stay, I'm getting my people out of here.
Only, I believe, 13 of the 2,700 employees at Morgan Stanley died because this guy had a plan.
He was preparing for the risks, thought ahead, and he had other people's lives in his mind, not his own.
So after they evacuated people, when the first plane hit, they had 17 minutes before the South Tower was hit.
He got out almost every single person, and then he went back inside And they never saw him again.
And he told his wife on the phone that, you know, if she never sees him again, he loves her, and she gave him everything he ever wanted.
And you hear stories like that, and it's not the first story we've ever heard.
There's so many stories.
I hear a story like that, and I hear a story about all the first responders that Jon Stewart was defending, and this is what gets me so angry at the people who would reject.
I think the 9-11 first responders should have been given a million dollars a year for the rest of their lives, and so many other people in this country, considering how much wealth we have.
And you hear stories like this, and you hear stories of the dudes who rushed in full speed, never to be seen again, leaving behind families, The people who are victims, who died in this, the people standing at the edge of the molten steel and the burning building as it sprays out, the people who had to live for decades with damaged lungs and cancer, and the least you can do, Joe Biden, is show up.
Literally, the minimum is just showing up.
I'm pissed, man.
ian crossland
It gets me.
One of the things that bothers me the most is that those people that went back into the building should be alive because buildings like that are not supposed to fall down from office fires.
tim pool
And that's what they thought.
ian crossland
They all thought it.
tim pool
The firefighters knew going in.
ian crossland
They knew.
tim pool
Their risk was burning, smoke, chemicals.
There's potential for explosions if there's gas stored somewhere.
Not the building would collapse on everybody.
ian crossland
They all knew the buildings would stay up.
That's why they went in.
tim pool
They believed.
ian crossland
Funny how knowledge can change like that.
libby emmons
Well, it's amazing too how fragile civilization is.
How it can just crumble.
Everything you can believe about it, you can believe that the steel I-beams are going to stay forever, but it's all just going to crumble.
And it crumbles quickly.
I feel like our civilization is crumbling rather quickly at this point.
We built it up so high.
It was so big.
And now it's just crumbling.
When I see stories like this, though, I mean, what an amazing and incredible man to do this, to know,
to not worry about what the authorities are saying, to know himself what's important, and to go for that.
You know, so often now people just believe what they're told, and there's no reason to believe what you're told.
You have to think for yourself in every single circumstance.
And it's just like clear, the more things that come up that it turns out we can't trust what we are told.
And we've, there was so much we were told that we believed, you know?
hannah claire brimelow
Well, and we see so many examples of people who are given jobs to protect other people failing.
I mean, I think about the Uvalde school shooting when the school resource officer wasn't there.
And then this guy is like, I am the head of security.
And I am going to take it so seriously.
libby emmons
We need this guy at Uvalde.
hannah claire brimelow
We need it.
We need him everywhere.
unidentified
And it's interesting because- Who wants to read that quote?
hannah claire brimelow
I can read it.
I will get emotional reading this, but he called his wife Susan and said, stop crying.
I have to get these people out safely.
If something should happen to me, I want to know.
I've never been happier.
You made my life.
And I think that's so crazy.
This man was on the phone with his wife.
It would have been so easy to be like, I got a bunch of people out.
I'm going to run up the street.
And he said, like, I am going back.
tim pool
I'm on my way home.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
I mean, how much do you think he wanted to be with his wife in those last moments?
Right.
And even this is like he's Welsh and I find this like to be very like UK to me, this idea that his wife is on the phone.
She knows what's about to happen.
She knows it's a risk.
And his response is stop crying.
Like, we have a job to do and we're going to do it.
tim pool
And think about our current generation.
Think about the people we have today.
Yuvaldi.
libby emmons
There was a post also from Ryan Goderski talking about his uncle.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, that was really powerful.
libby emmons
Which was really powerful.
His uncle Pete, who was going in, he thought his niece was in the building, and he kept going in to try and get her out.
hannah claire brimelow
And it turned out she wasn't even in that day.
libby emmons
It turned out she wasn't even there, but he kept going in and finding somebody else and bringing them out.
and then he'd go back in and he'd find somebody else and bring, and he just kept going back in
to bring people out.
And I remember that, I remember that day because I mean, I was in Philadelphia,
I wasn't even in New York.
hannah claire brimelow
And it was your birthday.
libby emmons
And it was my birthday.
But, you know, New York is always, New York is where my grandparents were born.
My mother was born in New York.
Eventually my son was born in New York.
But I remember watching Rudy Giuliani on TV because what happened was everyone wanted news out of New York.
So all the channels in Jersey and Philadelphia just tuned into the New York local News like what New York won, right?
So we were all just watching New York one and Rudy Giuliani like came on and he started talking about it and what was going down and he started he started talking about how alternate side of the street parking would be suspended and So for those of you who are not, you know, super familiar with parking in New York, they clean the streets.
And so every couple days you got to move your car to the other side of the street so they can clean the street.
And Giuliani started talking about alternate side of the street parking would be suspended.
And I was like, super emotional feeling.
I was like, New York is still New York.
Rudy Giuliani is in charge.
He's gonna save the city again, and he did in a lot of ways.
But yeah, the people who did that, and later talking to my boss,
I worked for this architecture company, and my boss was telling me his kids went to school downtown,
and he lived in Brooklyn, and he walked across the bridge.
Everyone's like running across the bridge trying to get to Brooklyn.
Everyone's like fleeing downtown and he's walking the other way to go get it to like go find his kids and his kids his kids were okay and he found them.
Another person I know just was like ended up writing a one-man show called Walk North and he had been downtown and he just started like walking north and like you know everybody he ran into people just being like Do you guys, does anyone need a bathroom?
You could come to my apartment.
Does anyone need water?
Like, what does anybody need, you know?
ian crossland
My buddy was walking north that morning after the plane set.
Same, similar situation to get uptown.
And then there's people were screaming that there was another plane coming, and they all just thought that it was.
No one knew what was happening.
We were under attack from all angles.
They would scream, panicked, and run into buildings and hide and stuff like that.
No other planes ever came.
tim pool
After the second plane hit, everything changed.
When the first plane hit, it was, was this an accident?
libby emmons
Right.
That's what I thought first, yeah.
tim pool
Like, wow, what could have happened?
Who knows?
And then the second plane hit, and it was clear.
And the stories I heard from some people, just similar to what you were saying, the day was not over.
I mean, World Trade Center 7 collapsed at what, 5 p.m.
that day?
ian crossland
Something like that.
tim pool
Something like that.
ian crossland
So, I mean, if you're in New York, and after, you know, it's 10 a.m., and all this is going down, and then later on in the day, all of a sudden, another building just collapses, Shattering in the middle and just falling straight down without even being hit by a plane who knows any building could have just fallen down That was like you said earlier how fragile things are life and things and I I believe that but I also believe that steel Skyscrapers are not fragile and that yes life is fragile but life can also be destroyed by outside forces if you're not paying attention and
And just like the United States was taken over in 1913 by this Federal Reserve's corporate fascist system, I feel like our buildings were blown up.
Dude, World Trade Center 7 does not just fall down on its own unless its structures are blown out.
Who blew out the supports?
Why didn't World Trade Center 1 and 2 fall near freefall?
Who blew out the supports?
libby emmons
Well, the city also changed the way that buildings were inspected.
So my grandfather was an engineer and he would, like, inspect buildings.
And the way that he used to inspect buildings was he would go up inside buildings and he would check it out.
He would look at everything.
He would, you know, see everything he could possibly see.
He would go up into all the different nooks and crannies of the buildings.
And figure out what was going on with it and the city changed the rules of how you inspect buildings so that no longer did you have to go up into the building but you could just stand in a building somewhere else with a telescope and look at the building from there.
And look at it that way and my grandfather was just like this is ridiculous this is not how we fix buildings.
And he was going up to buildings being like, I can see from here that gargoyle is going to fall off of, you know, whatever.
He was like going up into the Chrysler building and all this stuff, looking at it from all the angles, being like, this is how you got to fix your building.
Your building is in danger.
But they changed the way that they looked at the buildings.
They changed the inspection methods.
hannah claire brimelow
And they made it worse.
libby emmons
They made it substantially worse.
ian crossland
When did they do that?
libby emmons
I don't remember exactly. I knew you were going to ask me and I decided to tell you the anecdote
about my grandfather anyway. Just a smart move. But I know that they did change it and they
changed it substantially long enough ago. I think there's a simple truth.
tim pool
The government did not tell you the truth about what happened on 9-11.
And I don't care what the media writes about me.
They're morons.
If you think the United States government being attacked, or whatever you think happened, is going... Let's operate under the assumption...
Everything about this that is true.
That would mean that the U.S.
government revealed to the world, quite literally, how the Pentagon got attacked.
That's crazy.
They're not going to do it.
They'll tell you what they can tell you, but there's a thing called classified and top secret.
And if you think that after we got attacked on 9-11, the government was like, here's all of the secrets about what happened.
Oh, come on.
So, you know, it's funny when Vivek Ramaswamy says we're learning now about, you know, the Saudi involvement or whatever, and they try to make him look like a conspiracy theorist.
You really think that the government just, like, declassified literally everything?
No.
There's probably a bunch of documents that even Trump knows, and he was like, oh wow, didn't know that happened, but they're not gonna tell you.
libby emmons
I remember at the time, because after 9-11, the rents went down in New York, and I was like, oh, as soon as I get a job in New York, I'm moving to New York, which is what I did.
But I remember when – then it was the Patriot Act, which is, of course, one of the most egregious violations of American civil liberties in the history of a country, and it's still in effect.
It's basically warrantless surveillance of Americans.
What they did in reaction to a global, you know, a threat from outside of the country is they decided to surveil Americans more, you know, and now we have the DOJ that says the biggest threat in the United States is domestic terrorism.
tim pool
That's crazy.
libby emmons
It's crazy, and it started with the Patriot Act, and I remember my theater group, we started doing protest pieces about the Patriot Act.
And then it was March 2003, George Bush founded the Department of Homeland Security, which now has some 240,000 employees.
office, like making fun of George Bush because of course we hated him.
And then it was March 2003, George Bush founded the Department of Homeless Security, which
now has like some 240,000 employees.
It's a huge department.
They're dismantling the border with their huge department.
But he launched that on March 1st, 2003.
And then March 19th was the invasion of Iraq.
And I remember being like, we're invading Iraq?
This was Saudi.
Like, we're invading Iran.
What are we doing?
Why is this even happening?
Then we go into Afghanistan, which again, any student of history can tell you it's a really bad idea to go try and fight a war in Afghanistan.
That never works out for anybody.
Like, that just never works out.
Why are we doing that?
And then Obama was like, oh, I want to be president.
I'm going to put more money into Afghanistan.
And I was like, well, I can't vote for you.
You're a warmongering crazy person.
Like we obviously can't do this.
And we just kept going right down this road.
We learned absolutely nothing.
Unless that was the plan all along was to create a, you know, domestic surveillance state where we just fund wars to line the pockets of presidents.
ian crossland
Probably.
I think that was.
American free speech and stuff, it's okay.
But if you're a rich corporatist, it doesn't really matter.
You don't have free speech in your corporation.
You run the show.
So if someone pisses you off, they're gone.
And I don't think this idea of you can say whatever you want jives with this global banking.
I don't know who blew up those buildings, who lined explosives that blew the supports out on 1 and 2.
I don't know.
And to hear that there were Saudis involved, but that wasn't in the mainstream is freakish.
How deep do you want to go?
There's nanothermite in the dust.
tim pool
Let's go crazy on the members-only show.
We'll go absolutely just off the rails as far as we can go.
But I want to keep it a bit more topical because we have this story from the post-millennial.
Biden said he was at Ground Zero on the day after 9-11.
Congressional records show he was on the Senate floor.
I utterly despise this man.
libby emmons
He is the worst.
He is so awful.
It's amazing how bad and awful he is.
He's a liar.
He's committed bribery.
tim pool
Here's the post.
Here's the quote.
Ground Zero, New York.
I remember standing there the next day and looking at the building.
I felt like I was looking at the gates of hell.
It looked so devastating.
Here's him on the Senate floor on 9-12 at 1.45 p.m.
hannah claire brimelow
Now let's play a game.
Do you think it's lying or do you think it's dementia?
Do you think he doesn't know and he's trying to fabricate?
libby emmons
I think it's a little bit of both.
Yeah, for sure.
hannah claire brimelow
Isn't that crazy?
libby emmons
Nature versus nurture.
Well, it's both!
hannah claire brimelow
Do you think he's just surrounded by people who are like, yeah, tell that story.
Sounds good, man.
libby emmons
No.
tim pool
Back in the day when he was young, when there was no internet and you couldn't pull up the videos, he could say anything.
ian crossland
Did he go there within like three weeks after?
libby emmons
There was his Senate delegation on September 20th.
ian crossland
So he was like, the next day, in his mind, he's like, oh, what does it matter?
I said the next day, it was the next week.
It's the same thing.
libby emmons
It was the next two weeks.
Yeah.
I don't know if he was part of that thing.
tim pool
Then dementia makes more sense.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, and also it's more interesting if he's been lying his entire career, which of course we know he has.
libby emmons
Wait, does that not have both clips in it?
Can you just scroll down?
ian crossland
Both clips?
tim pool
Just the one?
libby emmons
What the hell?
hannah claire brimelow
There's a link to the Twitter.
tim pool
You see Libby when we're using the post-millennial and we give a shout out to you.
But here's what's interesting is that, you know, we just had the other day Kamala Harris saying she's ready to take over.
hannah claire brimelow
But why would she need to tell us that?
tim pool
But then she's the one at the 9-11 memorial and Joe Biden ain't here.
Why?
Because maybe he can't stay awake long enough.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, he did say, I couldn't meet with the Chinese president because I have to go to bed or something like that.
They were like talking about he avoided the question by like joking loose mainstream terms there for... And Gavin Newsom said he's not going to run because Kamala Harris is next in line.
tim pool
But that doesn't mean anything, right?
Like, he says that now and everyone's like, see, look, he's respecting the office.
But then, you know, Kamala Harris... He would run if he could do it.
...opens a fast food restaurant and then quits.
Who knows?
hannah claire brimelow
She gets a job in academia, where everyone who burns out in politics goes.
Supreme Court.
No, I mean, we talked about the possibility.
I think what's crazy about the Joe Biden ground zero thing is, first off, open lie that anyone could fact check.
Also, when Trump has told a story about, you know, watching the towers fly in, like the planes fly into the towers from his apartment, and I pulled it today, the Washington Post had this big Well, he told a story here, and then he said he used a telescope, and then he did whatever, but no one is going to issue a correction other than, you know, respectful people at the Post Millennial, right?
What is this?
That everyone can pretend like Joe Biden is just saying the truth all the time, but anything Trump does, they are willing to tear down.
libby emmons
And it's right there on C-SPAN.
tim pool
There's a photo of Trump.
On the ground afterwards during like recovery efforts.
And then there's a fact check where it's like, he did not go down to 9-11.
And I was like, what?
libby emmons
He's literally there.
tim pool
They use technicalities to be like, this is what they always do.
They say, did Donald Trump go down to the World Trade Center wreckage to help recover on Sunday?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
It was Monday.
You're right.
No, false.
It was Monday at 4.
It was actually Sunday at 3.17.
Right.
libby emmons
It was Tuesday.
hannah claire brimelow
It was Tuesday.
ian crossland
Right.
Did you see the video of him being like, who set the bombs?
There were bombs that went off.
Who set the bombs?
unidentified
Trump said that?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
ian crossland
Like the day after.
He's down at the rec.
He's like, I've got a hundred guys in there working right now.
I'm headed in to give them moral support.
I want to know.
And it's different clips of him being like, there were bombs.
There were firemen who were like, bombs went off.
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
And then the building just comes down.
Trump knew.
He was there.
He's like, what?
These steel skyscrapers do not just fall out of office.
tim pool
Well, we'll talk about that in the members only.
ian crossland
We sure will.
tim pool
We'll go nuts.
hannah claire brimelow
I think one of the craziest things, and I think Trump is representational of this, because when he talks about 9-11, he talks about it with, you know, a gravity that we're obviously not seeing from Joe Biden, right?
I mean, Joe Biden- Well, it's Trump's hometown.
It's Trump's hometown.
He feels it really deeply.
And I think it reminds me of, because I grew up in Connecticut, so, you know, we did, like, everyone got bused home from school.
It was a big deal.
I was very young, so, like, I don't have all the clearest memories of it.
You know, for years, especially growing up in this region, you know people who have stories are like, oh yeah, my dad was supposed to have a meeting there that day and then he didn't, or like my mom did this, that, and the other, and you know, whatever.
You know people were affected by it.
The one that I think of the most is someone I knew had a son who was in high school at the time.
they could see the buildings coming down from his high school. And he was standing there
with a classmate and the family friend's son is Catholic.
So he said a prayer and then he crossed himself. And his friend was like, went home to
his dad and said, you know, I wish we had something like that because I, in moments of
these complete terror, how does anyone respond? And I wish I had a way to just like express
how I was feeling. And I find this really interesting because rather than
acknowledge the gravity of the situation and the fact that so many people had this moment where they
thought, are we going to be okay? We collectively to then decide like Trump is wrong
because he didn't go down when we said he did. Meanwhile, it's okay for Biden to say, well,
after 20 years, I've decided it's not worth remembering this. I mean, this impacted
people so profoundly that.
unidentified
Bye.
hannah claire brimelow
Maybe he should have just been honest and been like, yeah, we had to refuel on the way home from Asia.
I couldn't make it.
But even then, it seems crazy.
tim pool
You get to the point where the generation you're targeting with votes don't remember.
So it's not just people who were born in 2001 or after.
It's the people who were born in 1997.
libby emmons
Who don't remember.
I mean, I remember my mother was a securities lawyer.
She's retired.
But I remember after this day, I saw her a little while later cleaning out her Rolodex.
We used to have this thing.
It was called a Rolodex.
You'd put phone numbers in it on paper, and it would be a hole in it, and it would be like a loose-leaf binder, if anyone knows what that is.
unidentified
That's crazy.
libby emmons
Anyway, she was literally tearing names out of her Rolodex.
People who had not only died, but anyone who had an office in the Trade Center, because that was also useless.
That was their work number and work address.
Yeah.
Wow.
And that was a very chilling moment for me.
And I was like, what are you doing?
She's like, none of these people work here anymore, and some of them are not alive.
And I was like, okay.
unidentified
Wow.
hannah claire brimelow
Which is great.
The fact that she could spend an afternoon doing that.
tim pool
Wasn't it like Seth MacFarlane was supposed to be on one of the planes?
hannah claire brimelow
I think that's the story.
I don't know for sure.
tim pool
Yeah, then something happened.
He got a call from Mayor Willie Brown or something?
No, I'm kidding.
No, Willie Brown apparently said he got a phone call or something like that.
Well, I will say, we're going to go ham on the members only.
We're going to go ham.
Because we've got a bunch of other news stories, I want to keep it top level.
ian crossland
Yeah, he says he missed, by about 10 minutes, missed flight 11.
He and Mark Wahlberg were supposed to be there.
hannah claire brimelow
Mark Wahlberg, that's the one I was thinking of.
That's crazy!
There are children who are growing up having never been without TSA.
libby emmons
They've never traveled before that.
tim pool
That's crazy.
hannah claire brimelow
It doesn't make any sense, but at the same time, 20 years is a really long time.
There are kids born after 9-11 who only know about life under the Patriarch with these intense security measures.
tim pool
Yes, but I never flew before TSA.
libby emmons
Oh, when I was a kid, my dad lived in Boston, and I grew up and I lived with my dad, and my mom lived in New York.
165 West 66th Street and I used to fly back and forth on the Eastern Airlines shuttle.
Eastern also doesn't exist.
I'm so old you guys.
Anyway, I used to fly back and forth between my parents and my dad would like at Logan Airport.
He would walk me to the gate and like see me off and sometimes he would walk me onto the plane.
tim pool
And in movies, the people are waiting outside the gate like, yay!
libby emmons
And that used to happen.
My mom would be like right outside the plane when I got off the plane.
She would be right there.
And then there was this weird time when like all the unaccompanied minors got lost by the airlines.
And that was really weird for hours.
No one knew where.
And I remember being like in a big room at an airport with like hundreds of kids.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
libby emmons
Just like all of us sitting in the airport tape.
tim pool
So I worked at O'Hare when I was 18 until I was 20.
And so this is just four years, you know, after 9-11.
And I talked to the guys who worked there, who had been there when it happened, and they said, this is what I was told by a handful of the guys, that after it happened, within, you know, 15 or so minutes, there were guys in suits with rifles standing on the tarmac.
libby emmons
That's nuts!
How'd they get there so fast?
tim pool
Well, I mean, there's serious law enforcement at airports.
So when they were like, we have a terror attack happening, the airport send out the dudes
to go on lockdown.
And they're like, they're men with guns standing outside in the tarmac, looking around, keeping
everyone away, trying to figure out what's going on.
libby emmons
I was in New York like just a week later or so after 9-11.
And there were guys just standing on street corners, like army guys in Greenwich Village
with like huge guns.
And I remember just being terrified.
Like there's crazy army guys standing here with guns all down in the West Village.
ian crossland
I worked there.
I moved to New York September 5th.
Six days later they came down the buildings and then I started working ground zero like October 13th or something, a month later, I started working there.
It was all militarized.
It was like devastation.
Windows were blown out and the buildings all nearby.
At the time, I was like, well, I guess that's what happens when buildings fall down.
I didn't consider the projectile force from the bombs going off and blowing out the supports.
Apparently that's why shitwake went flying out the sides of the building.
tim pool
Or, according to the official report, the pressure from the pancaking effect forcing air out the windows.
ian crossland
They gotcha.
The official report, NIST, National Institute of Science and Technology.
tim pool
NIST does not explain.
libby emmons
All the portable phones that they just set up and, like, parked.
You remember that?
ian crossland
I never used one.
libby emmons
No, but they were there.
tim pool
I don't know if the NIST report discussed 7, World Trade Center 7, did it?
ian crossland
Yeah, I think it did, but I haven't read much about that.
tim pool
I don't know if the NIST report does.
ian crossland
They talk about how the Building 7 pancaked and then fell.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no.
They give some half... No, no, you're talking about Building 1 and 2.
I'm saying World Trade Center 7 was where the propane tanks exploded after fires got out of control, causing it to crumble.
ian crossland
It was propane that blew up the entire building.
tim pool
Something like that.
I'm saying the official statement on World Trade Center 7, I believe, is Debris from Trade Centers 1 and 2 caused fires in World Trade Center 7, which burned out of control because of the chaos and limited resources.
There's no firefighters, resulting in stored gas tanks bursting or something like that, which then started weakening various portions of the building, causing it to just crumple and then fall.
ian crossland
Yeah, there's a digital simulation of the building crumpling, and they only show, the National Institute of Standards and Technology only show like a portion of the fall, but then it doesn't really explain why it fell in near free fall.
tim pool
We're gonna, we're going to get in all that at the members only, so go to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member, and then in one hour we're gonna have a very interesting conversation, I imagine, about Unofficial beliefs.
I'll put it that way.
And, you know, we'll get into it.
But I want to talk about the topical stuff that we do have, so we'll save that for the members only.
Ladies and gentlemen, we've got some schadenfreude for you.
From Oregon Live.
Nike to permanently close Northeast Portland Factory Store.
Why?
Because Nike went to the city and said, we need cops.
And the city said, no.
We're sorry, you're dealing with safety challenges.
Let me see if I can find this.
Here we go, look at this.
Mayor Ted Wheeler said he was very disappointed with the news of Nike's community store closure and that his team and city had worked tirelessly and in good faith with Nike for almost a year to offer creative solutions to their safety challenges.
That's what they call it.
When mobs raid your store, when far-left extremists set fire to property all around your city and take it over!
ian crossland
Whenever someone says they're doing something in good faith, that makes me feel like it's full of it.
libby emmons
Like they're just making that up.
ian crossland
You don't need to tell me it's in good faith.
If you tell me that, it's like you're virtue signaling and it's not really in good faith.
libby emmons
This is, yeah, this is one of many stores that has been leaving Portland.
Andy Ngo, who's with Post Millennial, keeps reporting on this because he's been writing about this for years, what's going on with Antifa and the militants and, like, the horrible people who just want to destroy Portland.
unidentified
And this one.
libby emmons
We got the story for the Post Millennial.
This is what I was thinking of.
I just pulled this up on my phone.
Andy and Katie worked on this.
tim pool
We got multi-layered schadenfreude.
A guy who said, quote, please smash all my windows if it will be a step toward change has announced that he must shut down his tap room.
libby emmons
Wait, do you see the quote where he says we were successful in every way except financially?
You moron!
Damn fool!
tim pool
What is it? Damn fool. Is that in here? If you scroll down, it's in there. So this is a leftist Portland business
whose owner advocated for the city's destruction, announces closing his tap room after suffering
significant financial losses since that time. The owner of Reverend's Nets, hard sider on
Southeast 35th Division Street, who identifies as he him on social media. Thanks, Andy.
unidentified
Summer of Love.
tim pool
What a moron.
Where did he say that?
We succeeded everywhere but financially?
It's in there.
I know because I reviewed the story.
are a former staple in the progressive city now struggling with surging crime, homicides, and business closures
following the Summer of Love.
libby emmons
That's what Jenny Durkin called it, the mayor of Seattle at the time.
tim pool
The Summer, yeah, she said the Summer of Love, that's right.
What a moron.
Where did he say that? We succeeded everywhere but financially?
libby emmons
It's in there. I know, because I reviewed the story. It's in there somewhere.
Nope.
What happened to it?
ian crossland
It's a great quote if it's real.
tim pool
Oh, there it is, there it is.
He says, we've done so many things and made thousands of ciders, we were successful in every way but financial.
libby emmons
There it is.
hannah claire brimelow
Which is kind of a hurt when you're a business, I would assume, but I guess not for everybody.
libby emmons
Well, it is apparently because he's closing his business.
He has now failed to keep his business open because he failed financially.
tim pool
Businesses fail.
Businesses fail.
I don't want to rag on someone.
libby emmons
Please smash all my windows if it will be a step toward change.
This is what I'm saying.
tim pool
I'm not going to rag on someone because they went out of business.
Businesses fail all the time.
It's sad.
People try, they don't make it.
But my dude, you advocated for your business to fail.
I'm proud of you and I want to say I congratulate you on your success.
ian crossland
Yes, yes, change was made.
tim pool
If he said that smashing out his windows will make a step toward change, he got exactly what he wanted.
So he was right, he succeeded.
hannah claire brimelow
I think people would like throw a brick through his window and then come in and be like, thank you so much, I'll buy a beer or like whatever he's selling.
libby emmons
That's what people always think.
hannah claire brimelow
It's so ridiculous.
libby emmons
That's what people always think.
They always think like, oh, I'm on board with you, so you will spare me.
And there have been a number of stories that we've reported on of like far leftists who have small businesses who advocate for BLM and Antifa and then are surprised when like, I think one woman got killed in a robbery and her family was like, no, but We- she wouldn't want anyone to go to prison for this.
And it's like, they literally killed the woman!
tim pool
Remember- remember the comic from Shen, where he was like, my bike got stolen.
But I imagine the guy who stole it is happier to have it than I am to lose it.
So the world- so total happiness increased.
It's like, dude, that guy who stole your bike didn't think twice about it and hucked it for 20 bucks.
He's not happy at all.
libby emmons
He doesn't care.
He's maybe high now.
tim pool
Okay, so maybe he's happy.
hannah claire brimelow
There's this NPR story from a while ago where they said some businesses in Portland or different cities would hang, like, Black Lives Matter stuff in, in hopes Seattle would too, during the Chad thing.
In hopes of, like, not being attacked or not losing their business.
And it was not a guarantee.
They were just needing to signal it, even if they didn't believe it.
I mean, this guy is such a character.
I wonder what he'll do next.
I find it interesting.
Because there's no end goal for him now, right?
Like, you had a business, it got destroyed, so now if you thought your business was serving your community, it's gone, and also you don't have a way to make money.
So why would you go to this length to try and appeal to a mob that doesn't care about you?
I'm thinking about Nike still, and Nike at one point earlier this year offered to pay police themselves to protect their streets.
libby emmons
That's right, that was in the story.
And Portland was like, oh you can't actually pay our police, we don't have enough of them!
hannah claire brimelow
We don't have enough, and also you can't do that, we don't want you to.
libby emmons
We defunded our police, and now not only do our police have less budget, but no one wants to be one.
Because that was the way the defund the police movement was so successful, is no one wants to be a cop now, so there's a lot of resignations.
And no one wants to join us.
tim pool
I want to read some of this from the story.
One tweet said, is quote, Please know whose windows you're breaking, such a bad take
though.
I think there's a distinction to be made between removing statues and breaking windows at a museum.
Or am I missing some perspective?
Ciderman says, Just because you're doing a better job now than you've done
in the past doesn't exclude you from a little bit of reckoning.
Doesn't demand it either.
But windows are windows.
No, my friend, windows are a symbol of our security and safety and prosperity.
Because before, you would have walls.
And when we started putting up thin windows that could be shattered with a rock sitting right in front of it, That was a sign that we were honorable and secure.
And we were not concerned that you could easily make your way into my building and steal everything I own.
There are coffee shops, Starbucks for instance.
Yo, come on.
Starbucks windows?
I don't know, I don't know, maybe Starbucks buys bulletproof windows.
But most windows are easily broken.
And that means We shifted, as a society, towards lowering our security to a great degree because we trust each other and we function together.
And these people exploit our goodwill with death and destruction.
And they say, Windows are windows!
Then let's go back to putting up walls.
Window-less stores.
How about that?
Brick.
libby emmons
Not just that, but like with the little slits so that we can shoot out at them.
tim pool
Little panels for self-defense?
libby emmons
Yeah, like they did with the castles.
ian crossland
What are those called?
libby emmons
Parapets?
Yeah, the murder holes.
tim pool
But only in self-defense and in extreme cases where you're under threat.
hannah claire brimelow
If you vote for the right people.
libby emmons
If you vote for the right people.
ian crossland
The arrow slits, I think.
libby emmons
Yeah, the arrow slits.
That's what I was thinking of.
ian crossland
This feels like when you like qualify with a mob and when you like justify mob tactics and violent mob tactics, it's like someone that's like, oh, like Grizzly Man.
Did you ever see that movie where he's like, it's a bear.
Just don't worry about it.
I know how to love it.
It'll be different this time.
And then the bear turns and eats him.
libby emmons
Of course the bear is gonna eat you!
ian crossland
I didn't get too graphic about how he was devoured, but it wasn't face first.
It was from the other direction.
tim pool
Oh, so he was like alive being consumed?
ian crossland
Yes, usually that's how bears and wolves do it.
unidentified
Eat you alive.
ian crossland
That's cool, right?
tim pool
Do they go for the soft bits first, like the eyes?
unidentified
They go for the butthole first.
hannah claire brimelow
Is that real?
What a weird fetish!
ian crossland
Wolves 100% I imagine bears get done.
unidentified
Is that true?
Yeah.
tim pool
I'm gonna look that up.
ian crossland
That's what Rogan told me.
tim pool
Joe Rogan said that?
hannah claire brimelow
He is a wildlife expert.
ian crossland
He knows them wolves.
But like you can't, I mean you trust dirty, divisive, untrustworthy, and violent mob tactics.
libby emmons
I don't trust bears or wolves.
ian crossland
Yeah, trusting a wild animal kind of.
Mobs ain't trustworthy.
serge du preez
Shouldn't trust any wild animals.
libby emmons
No, and they don't care.
That's what it is, they don't have care.
They don't care about your little middle class lifestyle where you want to advocate for everybody to be... Wild predators try to eat the butthole first.
unidentified
Why?
ian crossland
Because there's so much flavor.
tim pool
Soft, I guess?
ian crossland
Right into the colon where there's partially digestive food and stuff.
unidentified
Yikes.
ian crossland
And then they go just all the way up.
libby emmons
No, I can't.
hannah claire brimelow
That's wild.
libby emmons
I don't want to imagine that.
ian crossland
Well, this guy's building is being... this guy's... He got eaten by the butthole.
His business is being devoured.
Butthole first, yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
But to be fair, he, like, took his pants off and bent over for them.
He was like, yes, please.
ian crossland
Do you like my smell?
I can't do this on TV.
libby emmons
He put, like, some hot salt on it.
hannah claire brimelow
He was like, no, no, it's good because if I offer to you, you guys won't do this to me.
I mean, this is like...
The strangest part of virtue signal culture at all, which is like, if I virtue signal, if I tell you that I'm on your side enough, nothing bad will happen to me because I'm on the right side of history.
And that's not the case at all.
ian crossland
I hope this lesson is taken that if you diminish law enforcement in your area, that will slowly deplete the economic value of your area and then your business, if your business is there.
libby emmons
It will slowly and then very quickly.
Yeah, all of a sudden.
No, of course not.
It's like nobody studied the French Revolution. No, you know like doesn't everybody know like you can't control the
unidentified
Nope.
libby emmons
mob It doesn't matter how much you say they're on that you're
on their side like oh, we don't like the king either Okay, well your heads going in the basket to have fun with
serge du preez
that people you would think that people would know that stuff
But they don't pay attention I went to school in the United States and a lot of kids just didn't pay attention in class.
And in 2020 they were telling me, I didn't know anything about history, but it's like, you didn't pay attention to anything in history class.
I know you didn't, but no, they don't.
libby emmons
I was there.
I watched you become stupider and stupider.
tim pool
feline predators, lions, leopards, cheetahs, they don't eat the stomachs.
serge du preez
Go for the liver.
tim pool
Because the stomachs contain vegetation they can't digest, so they discard it.
And then they go through the gut.
But yeah, a lot of animals like wolves and vultures will go through the butt
because they can pull out your guts.
libby emmons
Oh.
We are.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, that's fun.
tim pool
Thanks for that one, Ian.
hannah claire brimelow
I feel like I did learn something tonight, though.
libby emmons
I'm actually glad you told me that.
ian crossland
I haven't seen Grizzly Man yet.
Werner Herzog told Grizzly Man's mom not to watch it.
libby emmons
Do you know the story?
Yeah, I know the story well, and that's why I've never seen the film.
ian crossland
The guy and his girlfriend spent time with the woods, with the bears, and then eventually, when the camera was on, but the lens cap was covering it, you hear them both get devoured in real time, screaming, and him being like, HELP ME!
tim pool
Oh yeah, the guy who was living with the bears, right?
libby emmons
Why would you go around living with bears?
I mean, there's a reason that we live in little towns and the bears live over there in the woods.
And when the bears come down the street, like a bear came down my street the other day and I heard about it and I was like, I'm glad I was in the house.
They can have my trash.
I'm staying over here in the house.
tim pool
We went to the Outer Banks, North Carolina.
And there's an area where you can go to see alligators and turtles and bears.
It was really cool.
We saw turtles that were like this big, like 30 year old turtles.
A snapper was probably 30 years old.
But then we saw two black bears.
And one of them was 20 feet from the car, from the road.
People pulled their cars over and just got out and started taking pictures.
They were like professional nature photographers.
unidentified
And this black bear, massive!
tim pool
Like, wow!
Like, it's big.
I've seen black bears, you know, all over the place.
This guy was massive.
And he was chilling, walking real slow and then stopped and just sat for about 10 feet from a line of cars and just watched them.
I posted a picture and I was like, bear seems fake AF.
Like, it seriously looked like a guy in a suit, like two guys in a suit.
hannah claire brimelow
Like that zoo in China.
tim pool
Is that for real?
hannah claire brimelow
No, I don't know.
I'm not going to accuse China of anything.
tim pool
It was a real bear though, the thing.
libby emmons
Yeah, I remember going on a great adventure safari in New Jersey and I was driving around with my mom and I was little and I was like, Mom, what are those kangaroos doing?
And she was like, Oh my God, look away.
tim pool
Trying to jump over each other.
hannah claire brimelow
The bears used to walk through my yard when I was in high school and stuff and there was one, like, it was very weird because you would see the bear and it had cubs one year and the next year the cubs were slightly bigger and I have much younger siblings so we used to, like, have to send them out with air horns to play in the yard because you just don't know when the bears are going to be there and they're not going to be there.
But you can't just keep kids inside all day.
libby emmons
That's creepy, Hannah-Claire.
hannah claire brimelow
Thank you.
That was my rural upbringing.
tim pool
I was in 6th grade.
We went on a field trip.
I can't remember which one we went to.
It was one of the ones in Chicago.
And we went to look at the baboons.
One of the baboons.
Okay, wait.
Earmuffs.
I think I know where this is going.
For parents.
libby emmons
Earmuffs?
tim pool
Yeah, you don't want your kids to listen.
I mean, it's not that it's not that it's not that gross.
It's gross, though.
But I don't think it's that inappropriate.
But anyway, one of the baboons is just sitting there and we're all looking over the edge.
And then the baboon shoves his fingers up his ass and pulls out, you know, matter and then looks at it, sniffs his hand and then smears it on the ground.
And all the kids are watching.
My teacher freaks out, like, Dad, don't look, don't look.
It's like we've seen it all.
hannah claire brimelow
You can't She was like, if one of you does this in class, I will be so mad.
tim pool
Yeah, it was funny.
Baboons are gross.
ian crossland
The baboons with the rainbow butts?
tim pool
Yeah, the big butt.
libby emmons
I don't like those guys.
ian crossland
What's up with that?
libby emmons
Yeah.
serge du preez
You don't want to mess with them?
libby emmons
They're just too uncanny, you know?
ian crossland
Why a baboon rainbow butt?
tim pool
Have you seen the video where there was like, during COVID, there's no tourists, so there's no food.
And then someone threw like a Snickers bar and then all of them like run and go for it.
It's crazy.
libby emmons
You mean nobody was feeding them?
tim pool
Well, so, like, normally there are tourists throwing things that eat the garbage.
libby emmons
Oh, I see, I see.
tim pool
With no tourists, there's no food.
libby emmons
Right.
tim pool
And that's also why, like, the rats came out in New York City.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
libby emmons
They were everywhere.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
Just, like, huge groups running around.
libby emmons
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
Because they were like, there's no food anymore.
libby emmons
We better go find it.
tim pool
That's crazy.
libby emmons
You better go attack people.
tim pool
Yo, I've seen some creepy rats in New York.
libby emmons
Rats are creepy in New York.
Remember Pizza Rat?
That was real.
tim pool
Pizza Rat?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
What was that?
libby emmons
He like found a slice of pizza on the subway and he was like dragging it off.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
He just needed a snack.
You guys are so mean to him.
tim pool
I saw a squirrel doing that once.
It was awesome.
It was just holding a huge slice of pizza and I was like, yeah.
libby emmons
I saw a TikTok of a seagull going into a Whole Foods, pulling a sandwich out of its face.
hannah claire brimelow
Okay, and then it waits for the door, and then someone tries to run up to it and is like... Someone opens the door for it.
But then afterwards, someone else is like, no, you shouldn't have a sandwich.
And it's like, dude, leave me alone.
libby emmons
If you're a seagull and you know how to steal a sandwich from Whole Foods, that's your sandwich.
tim pool
There's a video of a seagull walking, there's like a grocery store.
with like a bodega and the doors open and the seagull walks in, grabs a bag of chips and walks out
probably because the seagull recognized the bag, saw it on the ground once,
saw the food in it, saw it and they're like, hey, that's where it is.
The seagull probably wasn't thinking, I'm stealing. The seagull was thinking like,
unidentified
oh look, another bag. The seagull doesn't understand currency.
libby emmons
It was just literally food.
hannah claire brimelow
It's just operating in the system that it thinks we have created for it.
tim pool
Wait until bears figure it out.
ian crossland
The elephants figured it out.
Did you see the video of the elephant stopping the car that's driving with all the sugar cane on it and it like walks out on the road and blocks it and then grabs sugar cane off the truck?
libby emmons
Elephants are really smart.
hannah claire brimelow
The videos of bears breaking into houses and they like open the fridge and look around like they know you have something in there.
ian crossland
But not stealing.
You can't charge them.
hannah claire brimelow
No, you can't arrest a bear.
First off, the optics would be awful.
tim pool
One of the cruel realities of life is that you can't cuddle with a bear, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Because you look at him and you're like, it's like a gigantic dog, just fluffy, but it will kill you.
libby emmons
Yeah, very easily.
tim pool
It will eat your butt.
Yeah, it's like a poisoned berry.
It's like, you want to eat it, it looks so good, but you can't!
ian crossland
Yeah, like marbles.
tim pool
Delicious mushrooms!
libby emmons
Well, that's another one of those movies.
Remember that guy who, like, was in Alaska?
It was another sort of, like... Into the wild.
tim pool
Into the wild.
libby emmons
He ate the wrong berries.
And they found him way later.
ian crossland
Emile Hirsch?
libby emmons
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, but now, with the app... Wasn't that Sean Penn who directed that?
serge du preez
I think so.
It was McCandless, I think it was his actual name.
tim pool
There's an app called Picture This that you can scan a plant and it'll tell you what it is.
libby emmons
That's smart.
ian crossland
I was thinking the last few days about how horrible it would be to be killed by a non-human animal.
What a waste of life.
What a lame ending it would be if it was some cheap non-human got me.
hannah claire brimelow
Like if a squirrel bit you to death or something?
ian crossland
Non-human?
You mean an animal?
tim pool
Yeah, like people that may have been killed by an animal.
ian crossland
Yeah, like a wolf or like a tiger like how much How much hatred like we've been so desensitized from people
getting killed by wild animals that we don't really fear them
But like they don't care. Yeah, they don't care about you really
serge du preez
What did you guys do?
libby emmons
We don't fear wild animals?
ian crossland
I don't think they understand the horror that could come along with coming upon a wolf or a bear.
libby emmons
Oh, I'm terrified of wild animals.
hannah claire brimelow
That movie Cocaine Bear came out and people were like, yeah, it seems awful.
ian crossland
Oh, it did?
serge du preez
Yeah.
ian crossland
Okay, so they were able to propagandize people?
libby emmons
I'm scared of people and animals.
ian crossland
I've been so much in the politics, like, oh, it's human versus human in politics, all these humans, what if World War III and all the human, human, and then I'm like, dude, real talk, like, we were starting against tigers for most of our existence.
hannah claire brimelow
What if it's ants?
libby emmons
I am pretty afraid of ants.
Did you ever see that movie, Ants?
serge du preez
Yeah.
tim pool
No.
libby emmons
Yeah?
serge du preez
When I was a kid, yeah.
tim pool
Were there, like, working in the grasshoppers or oppressing them?
libby emmons
No.
Oh, no.
unidentified
No.
libby emmons
No, no.
ian crossland
A Bug's Life?
libby emmons
This is a totally different movie.
serge du preez
A Bug's Life?
tim pool
There's ants and there's a Bug's Life.
libby emmons
No, no, no.
This is not an animated film.
Ants with a Z. This is, like, a scary film.
Oh, no.
I remember watching it on Cinemax.
serge du preez
Oh, no.
Never heard of this.
libby emmons
Right?
So, there was a construction site, and this woman is, like, in her bed, of course, because you have to have a naked woman in bed on Cinemax.
And she's like in her bed and suddenly there's ants coming in and the ants swarm her and eat her alive.
ian crossland
This is ants?
It happened at Lakewood Manor?
libby emmons
I don't know what it was called.
It was on Cinemax.
I was eight years old.
I have no real idea.
I feel like- I just remember this and I remember the- I remember the visuals.
I remember the lighting.
It had that sort of like 70s American cinema yellow.
You know that like yellow?
serge du preez
Oh yeah.
libby emmons
Yeah, it looked like that.
ian crossland
News you can use.
libby emmons
And she was like, ah!
serge du preez
Ah!
libby emmons
Like that.
hannah claire brimelow
And also being swarmed by bees.
Like, being stung to death would just be awful.
tim pool
No, not bees.
Wasps.
libby emmons
Wasps are bad.
tim pool
Bees are good people.
So we have a cherry tree, and when it comes into bloom or whatever, it's a... what is it?
It's a... I don't know.
Yeah, it's a cherry tree, so it does cherry blossoms.
It's crazy.
And then you can hear loud buzzing.
There's so many bees.
B's got no beef.
You walk right past them, you can, like, wave, and they're like, yo, what up?
It's the wasps that chase you down.
libby emmons
Though they're mean.
Those are mean fuckers.
ian crossland
I don't know if they really are mean.
unidentified
I don't get the vibe that they're more... They're inquisitive.
ian crossland
They'll fly down right in front of your face really aggressively and stare at you, and then they'll fly off.
Yeah.
And if you freak out, then they might freak out.
But they're, like, aggressively patrolling.
hannah claire brimelow
I got stung over the summer by like a hornet or a yellow duck or something on my finger and it started to swell it took like 24 hours and then it was so itchy but if you itch it it then as I learned goes down the rest of your hand and I it I can't imagine if you had like Thousand of them descend on you, and then you're in pain, but also you begin to itch, and itching only makes it worse.
This seems like a nightmare.
ian crossland
What did you do to treat it?
Baking soda?
hannah claire brimelow
Or chamomile?
Chamomile, not chamomile.
And then I just tried to not scratch it.
I wore a glove for several days.
ian crossland
Chamomine?
What's that?
hannah claire brimelow
Chamomile lotion.
libby emmons
Calamine.
hannah claire brimelow
Calamine, thank you.
I don't know what I'm talking about.
libby emmons
I was like, I was like thinking like, oh, did you just brew a bunch of tea in that?
I just don't know what I'm talking about.
And I was thinking, like, this is some sort of interesting rural home remedy from Hannah Clare.
hannah claire brimelow
The bears in my yard told me about it.
libby emmons
That's what I was thinking.
And then she brewed some dandelion tea and the colors were amazing.
hannah claire brimelow
I wish.
No, that wasn't it.
I will say, I think it depends on where you live.
Because I think when you're saying, like, you live in a city and you're not interacting with animals, maybe you don't think about them.
But if you live in a rural area and you hike a lot, the first question I get all the time is, but what happens if we run into a bear?
And that's a legitimate question in a lot of areas.
libby emmons
Do you bring like a shotgun or something?
hannah claire brimelow
I do nothing.
I go unprepared.
But I like to hike with people who will go armed.
Another reason we should support the two-way guys.
They're always the first people to think, I will come with a gun just in case.
unidentified
I would love to hike with a two-way person who can shoot down a wasp.
hannah claire brimelow
I would love to hike with a two-way person who can shoot down a wasp.
libby emmons
We did get these amazing water guns this summer, me and my son, and they basically shoot water
like it's buckshot.
It's wild.
hannah claire brimelow
That's what I'll hike with.
tim pool
So it just sprays water?
libby emmons
But it doesn't spray.
It like turns every little droplet into like a bead.
tim pool
Does it hurt?
unidentified
Yes!
Oh wow!
libby emmons
So when you get shot with it, you're like, ah!
And then even once you're soaked, you don't want to get shot with it because it hurts.
ian crossland
Water is a drill.
It's like one of the best drills known to man.
tim pool
The water pressure.
ian crossland
Yeah, you can cut through a diamond with it.
libby emmons
Just look at the Grand Canyon.
tim pool
High pressure water.
I watch those videos on Instagram where they put a screwdriver and then the water slices the screwdriver in half.
libby emmons
No way.
tim pool
The metal and everything.
hannah claire brimelow
It's crazy.
tim pool
Yeah, bifurcate.
libby emmons
That's wild.
I saw this weird water spout coming out of a river the other day.
Did you see that?
No.
It was like some stupid Instagram thing, you know?
But it was like a water spout.
Did you see?
It was like some Russian river.
tim pool
It was like flooding and stuff.
libby emmons
Yeah, and it just like went up into the sky.
tim pool
There's a thing that happens over the Great Lakes when there's like a tornado.
It sucks the water up and then drops it or something like this.
libby emmons
Do it like a big splash?
tim pool
Like a 12-foot wave will like slam over the highway or whatever.
libby emmons
That's cool.
tim pool
Yeah, it's like a mini tsunami.
hannah claire brimelow
Unless you're on the highway, then it's very bad.
tim pool
I mean, not really.
You get splashed by water and you're like, wow, that was crazy.
ian crossland
It's an actual thing of water spout.
hannah claire brimelow
It's like a real-life Disney ride.
tim pool
Yeah, like a water spout forms.
I could be wrong about this.
This is what I... I'm growing up in Chicago, so they say, because you're driving on Lakeshore Drive, you get really close to the water sometimes.
And if there's like a water spout somewhere, it can pull water back and then drop it or something like that.
I don't know enough about it.
unidentified
Cool.
ian crossland
Is it just like a water tornado?
tim pool
Yeah.
And it pulls water up or something.
Like it sucks it up.
You know? And then...
libby emmons
That sounds kinda cool.
hannah claire brimelow
Weather.
ian crossland
Science man's crazy.
Well that's why we need guns, to protect ourselves from wild animals.
That was my point.
libby emmons
I think we need guns to protect ourselves from the weather.
ian crossland
You need lasers to defend against wasps and raindrops.
tim pool
Actually, a good laser might actually protect you from a wasp.
ian crossland
Like an array of lasers that could shoot nine beams at once that has auto-tracking and targeting?
libby emmons
Now we're like Dr. Evil.
tim pool
I mean, they have those lasers that can light a match head or pop a balloon.
I imagine if you pointed that at a bug, the bug would not be very happy.
serge du preez
No.
unidentified
Yeah.
serge du preez
I mean, you can also just use, like, Axe body spray and a lighter, but, you know.
tim pool
No, that's, that, you can't control that well enough.
With a laser, you just, like, point it, and then the bug might just fall off, like, a wall or whatever.
hannah claire brimelow
But the Axe body spray method is more fun and terrifying when you're, uh, 13.
tim pool
Yeah, but very dangerous, okay?
hannah claire brimelow
Yes, don't do it, it's bad.
tim pool
No, don't do that, guys.
And this is big, too, because there's, like, uh, with all the wildfires that have been happening all over the place, it's really, this is really crazy.
It rains at Burning Man.
It was, it was, it was flooding in Vegas a couple times.
That's wild.
And then out here, we haven't gotten rain in a minute.
It rained last night for the first time in a while.
But we went through a couple of weeks without any rain.
ian crossland
We got hit on Friday.
tim pool
We got told that it was really dry.
And so there was a high risk of fires.
hannah claire brimelow
But now we're going to get a ton of storms because of all the hurricanes coming up.
I think the storm at Burning Man, which no one predicted, is just God testing the pagans.
I think that he is like, how much do you like testing?
ian crossland
I think a lot of people believe that, truly believe that.
hannah claire brimelow
I fundamentally, I was talking about this with Liz Wheeler last week.
I think that He's not happy with them, and he thinks you know if you guys are gonna put up What was it the Chapel of Babel at the beginning?
libby emmons
We'll just say also put up like a big like a big you know praise Ukraine thing mm-hmm God's unhappy about it.
ian crossland
That's all I have to say there's something is that they're they're pagan peace-loving warmongers There's something about being enlightened and then going to be enlightened with other people that are enlightened, as opposed to going somewhere completely unenlightened, just going somewhere to seek enlightenment.
And I think a lot of people are going to Burning Man because they want to become enlightened, not because they are.
hannah claire brimelow
I think they want to be able to say they went to Burning Man.
They want to seem cool, but they are actually not interested.
libby emmons
Burning Man has been douchey since the 90s.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't want to speak ubiquitously.
There are probably some people there who are seeking enlightenment or whatever else, but I think the majority of people are going.
The Coachella of, you know, non-musical gatherings.
ian crossland
I could see how God would smite that.
hannah claire brimelow
That's what I'm saying.
I think he was unhappy.
I don't think he's smiting it.
I just think he's like, let's see how committed you are to this bit, team.
libby emmons
And the Jeep stuck in the mud that can never get out because it turns to concrete.
ian crossland
It's just gonna be like an auto graveyard.
I'm so glad I didn't go.
hannah claire brimelow
It reminds me of Cadillac Ranch out in, I think it's near Amarillo, Texas.
libby emmons
Have you gone a bunch of times?
ian crossland
I've been once.
Once.
In 2008.
libby emmons
Yeah.
How was it?
ian crossland
It was awesome.
I took mushrooms for like seven days straight.
We had a big bag at camp.
And I'd just walk around and every time the high would start to change, I'd come back and eat some more and keep walking.
Start your day at like three in the afternoon because of the sunlight.
You want to kind of miss the sun.
And then you're up until like 7 a.m.
every day.
It's an all-night party, just blasting music and lights.
hannah claire brimelow
Not this year.
ian crossland
Psychedelics.
hannah claire brimelow
God said no.
ian crossland
Nope.
Take a bike, you just drop it on the ground and keep walking.
Find another bike, pick it up and use it.
It's pretty cool.
Oh, that sounds terrible.
It's cool if you're single and you want to take a lot of psychedelics.
That's about it.
libby emmons
I'd just be pissed if somebody kept stealing my bike.
ian crossland
Yeah, there's no stealing.
libby emmons
I wouldn't like that.
ian crossland
Everything you take there is gonna be taken.
libby emmons
That sounds terrible.
ian crossland
So don't take your phone, it'll probably get sand damage too, so you gotta watch out for sand damage on any equipment you're taking.
libby emmons
And you gotta wear masks, right?
Because all the alkali dust.
ian crossland
Yeah, but like good sealant masks, because the dust, you'll get these whiteout storms will kick on and you won't be able to see further than like three feet in front of you.
Sounds awful.
libby emmons
It really sounds like pure hell.
ian crossland
It's all about psychedelics, really.
Maybe people go and don't do psychedelics, and they're just like, it's the experience of being with the people.
tim pool
Now it's a bunch of rich people with private planes who fly in and have RVs deliver, then put up stages, and they're like, woo!
It's cool, like, dude, do it somewhere else.
libby emmons
We saw the climate protesters, Extinction Rebellion, went out there, stopping up traffic.
serge du preez
People don't realize, they literally have like an airport there.
Like, they land planes outside there, and then they go into like this own little hermetically sealed tent.
It's not like, it's not what everyone thinks it is anymore.
libby emmons
It's like super glamping.
serge du preez
Yeah, it literally is.
Literally.
ian crossland
Dude, you'll be walking, and it'll be like, Desert, black, like dust and dark.
And then there'll be a building and you'll be like, what the fuck is this?
And you walk up to it with like a bunch of, and you walk in and it's like a bar fully set up.
Like I went to the one that was a vampire bar.
They had vials of blood around their neck.
They were like grinding on the stage.
They had filed their teeth and they were taking people's weapons.
hannah claire brimelow
Why did God not smite this super?
ian crossland
It was like dark and red.
It was smoky in there.
Like what?
This exists?
And everyone had, they had to give their weapons.
If anyone had like, was carrying a knife.
I don't think, I don't know what kind of weapons.
libby emmons
And then would other people just pick them up and keep moving just like with the bikes?
ian crossland
Oh, I didn't see what happened, but I had a flashlight on me, a really bright one, and they didn't take it, and I felt like a Jedi, like, they didn't see my lightsaber as a weapon, because if it hit the fan, I had something to blind people with in the dark, and I felt like I was, like, armed.
libby emmons
Yeah.
ian crossland
It was kind of a cool feeling.
libby emmons
Yeah, especially when you have people who are filing their teeth and drinking blood.
unidentified
It was nuts!
ian crossland
People like that really exist?
libby emmons
Well, you know, that's like part of the, there's like this, um, where is it in Africa?
And they have this like the big salt flats and everything and people like mine salt and their teeth get really soft and they they can file them down.
hannah claire brimelow
Oh, that's wild.
libby emmons
Teeth freak me out.
I'm sorry.
ian crossland
I got a dentist appointment tomorrow.
libby emmons
Yeah.
ian crossland
It actually hasn't been bad at all.
I was avoiding it for years and years because of the pain, and now I'm like, dude, pain is temporal.
It comes and goes.
tim pool
We're gonna go to Super Chat, so if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and head over to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member.
We're gonna have a fun conversation in about a half an hour on the Uncensored Show talking about Well, talking about the history of 9-11, and talking about the origins, the causes, the aftermath, and we're gonna get into the nitty-gritty, so it's gonna be really, really fun.
I hope you guys join and come hang out for this conversation, and we're gonna take your questions as well, so I hope you got some good ones.
Culture Abduction says, first to comment before that buddy guy dude.
Happy Monday, y'all.
You got it!
You won.
serge du preez
Yeah, I won.
Good job.
tim pool
What do we got?
Impassable says, Tim, did you see that they ruled the way they were validating ballots was illegal?
Carey Lake essentially won.
Essentially, Carey Lake won.
There's a bunch of different things you could win.
Won a battle, not the war.
But, yeah, that's a big story, actually.
A judge ruled that the way they've been handling it is not legal in 2020 and 2022.
So, wow, good job, Carey Lake.
I don't know what that means for her, but it's good that she's getting these reforms and these things ruled on.
Let's grab another super chat and we'll move on.
Stephen says, happy birthday Libby.
May you have many more.
libby emmons
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
tim pool
Fix Bayonet says, we need to start looking at voter registration around military bases.
While I was in, many soldiers did not vote.
And if they were registered, it was in their home state.
Interesting.
libby emmons
That's interesting too, because in Ukraine, Zelensky, who said that you can't have an election while there's a war going on.
said that he would consider having an election next year if the US and Europe paid for the election and made sure that
everyone in the military and everyone who's not in Ukraine right now could vote. He said he only needs five bazillion
I think it was actually five billion dollars or something like that. It's a cheap price for him. Yeah
hannah claire brimelow
He's like I've asked her so much more. This is nothing.
serge du preez
Yeah. Yeah considering we are his tax base now Yes.
Yeah, makes sense.
libby emmons
We work really hard so that the government can take our money and send it to Ukraine.
hannah claire brimelow
What a weird place where your democracy is contingent on if the U.S.
government will pay for it later.
libby emmons
Yeah, that's the deal.
tim pool
Here's one.
Joe Spinell says, Tim, I'm going to come out of the gate and say watch Deep Space Nine episodes past tense part one and two.
Now this aired in 1995, but the date in these episodes occur August 30th, 2024 and hit too close to home.
Just finished watching them again.
I'll go check it out.
Maybe I'll watch it tonight.
For those that are wondering.
I'll give you the quick gist of it.
So Commander Sisko, Dr. Bashir, and Jadzia Dax... Oh, these are good episodes.
Yeah, they beam down to Earth, but accidentally materialize in 2024.
They're found by police officers who believe them to be vagrants, get them off the streets, and escort them to a sanctuary district, a Waldorf ghetto, to contain the poor, the sick, and the mentally disabled, and anyone else who can't support themselves.
So they've arrived just before the Bells Riots, a violent confrontation in the sanctuary district.
I'll leave it there, but...
Yeah, it took place, uh... Now-ish, apparently.
libby emmons
Yeah, I will say Avery Brooks, I think, is one of the best captains.
Captain Sisko.
He's... He's... I think he's my favorite.
hannah claire brimelow
You're willing to take that bold political stance?
libby emmons
I think... I think... You like him?
I think Sisko is my favorite.
ian crossland
More than Patrick Stewart?
tim pool
He's good.
He's not a commander, though.
He's not a captain.
libby emmons
He becomes a captain.
Well, he becomes a captain.
He becomes a captain.
tim pool
Cisco's good.
ian crossland
I like Picard a lot.
libby emmons
I don't like Picard anymore.
tim pool
I do, too.
ian crossland
You don't?
libby emmons
No.
unidentified
Why?
tim pool
Because of where Patrick Stewart's gone later in life?
libby emmons
Yeah, well, kind of because the way that the culture in Next Generation actually would be if you're not in Starfleet seems incredibly oppressive and authoritarian, and also the way that they are always expecting themselves to conform to other cultures and wear the weird hats and whatever, but they always act like those other cultures are beneath them.
You know, and that like, oh, we in Starfleet, we don't have any gods because we are perfect.
We are perfect human beings.
We don't need money.
We don't need anything.
We're just going to, you know, exist in this way.
I don't like it.
tim pool
I like the timeline where Trump gets elected and then Earth becomes the Terran Empire and goes to war and wipes everybody out.
libby emmons
That sounds really fun.
tim pool
I actually skipped, I'm half kidding, but I guess the second season of Picard was like they have to go back in time and stop Trump from getting elected or something like that.
unidentified
Really?
libby emmons
I watched the third season after they finally got the band back together and went back out on tour.
tim pool
First one was okay, third one was good, I skipped the second one.
libby emmons
I skipped the second too.
tim pool
Because I think, I could be wrong, but I think the general idea is not literally Trump, but like The Trump-esque character.
Yeah, Q shows up and he's like, look, Picard, I'm old now because I'm trying to look like you.
And it's like, we get it, dude.
You're John De Lance.
He's an old guy.
And then he's like, I'm going to change time and make it so that Trump won the election.
And then like they live in an oppressive Nazi regime or something like that.
Yeah, and like Picard is like some kind of, I don't know, some warlord or something.
I couldn't watch it.
I just stopped.
Not interested.
ian crossland
Who owns it?
tim pool
Golden Fleece Game says, Governor of New Mexico committed a felony.
Title 18, section 242.
She should be charged with one count per citizen who lives in the affected jurisdictions and anyone who travels through there.
Agreed, but first she should be impeached, removed from office, and then criminally indicted.
All right.
Carrie Case is happy birthday.
Maybe it's my birthday, too.
libby emmons
Hey, happy birthday.
tim pool
I'm almost halfway to 100 now.
Yay.
Nice.
libby emmons
Happy birthday.
tim pool
And someone mentioned Butters from South Park.
His birthday is also September 11th.
libby emmons
Nice.
So all good company.
unidentified
Yes.
hannah claire brimelow
What a birthday party that would be.
tim pool
I mean, there are a lot of days that live in infamy, you know?
But I mean, imagine being born on September 11th, 2001.
libby emmons
That'd be pretty rough.
hannah claire brimelow
But someone is, right?
Right.
A lot of people.
libby emmons
But also, you wouldn't care, because your entire life would be after 9-11.
You'd be like, yeah.
tim pool
You would care, though, because every year on your birthday, for your whole life, people would be making it a big deal, and you wouldn't have a normal birthday.
unidentified
Right.
hannah claire brimelow
What if you were born in New York City on September 11th, 2001?
That would be crazy.
tim pool
And you can't have birth...
For a while, like, you don't have normal birthdays.
libby emmons
I haven't had a normal birthday since then.
Yeah.
I had a normal birthday that year because my friend was, uh, my best friend.
She wasn't around Tuesday night because she had to work.
So we went out on Monday night and we had a really fun time.
And that was my last normal birthday ever since then.
I've been like, it's my birthday.
We don't have to go for drinks.
It's okay.
tim pool
Hey, we got a good one.
Spartan Bacon says, Tim, since you mention us a lot, here is some money to celebrate Nebraska's constitutional carry taking effect last week, uh, last weekend.
libby emmons
Wow!
tim pool
That is awesome.
Glad to hear it, man.
Yeah, Quantum Strange Quark says, Libby and Butters from South Park share a birthday.
Wow, congratulations.
libby emmons
That's funny.
tim pool
Morgan Estill says, I was at the protest in Albuquerque on Sunday in full armor with an AR.
libby emmons
Oh, wow.
How'd it go?
tim pool
There's another armed protest tomorrow in Albuquerque at Civic Plaza downtown, 10 a.m.
to 6 p.m.
local time.
Spread the word, Tim.
Well, you just did.
So you spread the word.
Thanks for your super chat.
What do we have?
What do we have?
Wrath of Paul says, if you allow the government to break the law during an emergency, they will create an emergency to break the law.
As it goes, you know, Oh, look at this, Savage Man says, it's my birthday too!
Happy birthday, Libby.
libby emmons
Hey, happy birthday, Savage Man.
tim pool
Apparently, a lot of people are born every day.
unidentified
It's true.
hannah claire brimelow
Breaking news.
libby emmons
It's true.
tim pool
Yeah, there's like this interesting math thing about if there's like 25 people in a room, the likelihood you share a birthday is like 78% or something ridiculous number.
serge du preez
Yeah, because it's really 1 in 365, so it's not really that statistically incredible, honestly.
1 in 365 is pretty small.
tim pool
But you'd think in order to share a birthday, you would need 700 something people.
serge du preez
Yeah, I forget what it is, what the actual number is.
But yeah, still.
tim pool
You would need two people to have born on the same day.
So if you had one person born on every day, you would need another group of people born every single day.
But then we'll actually know because then everyone would share a birthday.
unidentified
Yes.
libby emmons
Yeah.
Also, like, the odds that you would have, that everyone, that 365 people would all have a different birthday is also, like, that doesn't seem... Also, it's probably not random when people are impregnated and born.
ian crossland
I bet there's some more circadian rhythm to it.
hannah claire brimelow
I think there is a most common birthday.
libby emmons
What's the most common birthday?
hannah claire brimelow
I will look it up right now.
I could be wrong.
Especially...
No, I mean, so many people are going through scheduled C-sections now, and I doubt a doctor would schedule one on the weekend, so I think there must be gaps every couple years of weekends.
libby emmons
Weekend gaps.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, just go home and cross your legs.
Hopefully you're good.
ian crossland
Apparently, uh, if you have more than 23 people in a group, the odds are better than 50-50.
Right.
Two of them will have a birthday.
tim pool
Daisy says, welcome my son Wyatt Middleton, born on September 11th, 2023.
Pretty crazy birthday.
It was an emergency c-section.
Mom and baby are doing great.
unidentified
That's so wonderful.
tim pool
Congratulations.
hannah claire brimelow
Um, this says September 16th is the most common birthday.
ian crossland
Really?
tim pool
So what happens nine months before September?
hannah claire brimelow
New Year's, I guess.
unidentified
That's right.
libby emmons
That makes sense.
tim pool
Yep.
So on New Year's... This other one... A lot of people.
hannah claire brimelow
The other one is... September has a lot of common birthdays, and that's probably why.
Right.
libby emmons
Well, because it's winter, too, so it gets dark earlier.
You don't have that much to do.
tim pool
People are inside, but it's New Year's.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
It's Christmas and New Year's and, you know, that's interesting.
It's vacation time, actually.
It's probably not just New Year's, it's probably just vacation time.
You've got this period after Christmas to New Year's where nobody's doing anything.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, some people are apparently doing stuff, to be fair.
tim pool
That's what I mean.
libby emmons
I'm usually at my job.
tim pool
Yeah, but, you know, I used to work through the Christmas, but it is like pushing a boulder uphill.
Because there's a lot of arguments.
People make what's like, you get more views during Christmas because, no, that's not true, dude.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Holidays are you work twice as hard and you get half the reach.
libby emmons
That's what I've discovered as well.
unidentified
Yep.
hannah claire brimelow
And I think rest is actually very important.
I mean, there are studies that talk about sleep and all kinds of things.
Lowering your cortisol is extremely important long term.
So trying to burn out during a period of time is maybe not always worth it.
serge du preez
Yeah, I spend a lot of time on YouTube.
The time that I watch the least YouTube is during the holidays.
Like, by far.
Just don't watch it.
So.
tim pool
All right.
John Sarasanguineus says, Ray Epps tapes.
Schroyer walks.
Schroyer walks.
Oh, wait.
Your government is captured.
Never mind.
Yeah, shout out.
I tweeted this out during the show.
Oh, and Schroyer says, death to tyrants.
And, you know, Ian brought that point up.
Ray Epps says, literally, that we have to go into the Capitol.
And he's not even charging anything.
libby emmons
It's so weird.
ian crossland
They should at least charge him and give him a slap on the wrist if he's an informant so that people will be satisfied.
At least do something.
libby emmons
They're doing a very bad job of this conspiracy.
ian crossland
That's weird.
hannah claire brimelow
But that's sad too.
They're doing a bad job and yet that's enough for them to not have to do anything.
libby emmons
Yeah, they don't have to do a thing.
tim pool
Says, eventually they will use the sham J6 precedence against you, Tim.
Then they will use it against me.
Good luck in the corrupt courts, Tim.
Good luck complying your way out of tyranny.
He says he'll take the Bundy Ranch approach.
See, this is like Fed talk, right?
libby emmons
Right.
tim pool
The people who are, you know, like Ray Epps, like literally we're talking about Ray Epps, telling everyone to do the thing that hurts everything you're trying to do.
In the meantime, like Public Square is doing their SPAC or whatever, they have tons of money, they're succeeding massively.
All these businesses that believe in American values are making more money than ever.
The massive success of the independent media space is through the roof.
Joe Rogan, despite all their attempts to try and take him down, is just bigger and better than ever.
Every day there's a new story about something he's done.
You've got Bud Light crumbling.
You've got Target failing.
It's just across the board, victory, victory, victory.
The governor of New Mexico, in desperation, signs his decree.
Everyone immediately ignores.
And it's just like, man, how much do you have to be winning To be like, let's throw it all away and just act, like, sporadically and randomly.
It's just crazy.
Yep.
But while we're looking at an active conflict, there's a challenge that every generation faces.
You know, every generation has their challenge.
We think that things are bad.
It's like, well, you know, the fear of nuclear annihilation existed during the Cold War.
You had 70 years of that kind of fear.
But I'm just like, look, man, I think we win this one, but I think we're in a conflict.
And so we have to play strategically and correctly, and that is do what we're doing, man.
Starting businesses, challenging the machine.
They want to get rid of Aunt Jemima.
Terrence Williams makes Cousin T's.
Take them over.
Hollywood goes woke.
The Daily Wire comes right on in.
If they want to walk away from these mountains where they're king on the throne or whatever, Let him do it. Yeah, this writer's strike and actor's
libby emmons
strike thing in Hollywood is not being effective at all Like times are changing. I keep forgetting that they're on
strike There's so much content out there to look at has any they've
been in head watch No, and drew barrymore just said that she was going to
bring her show back just without the writers. Yeah. Oh, wow Yeah, that'll be terrible.
hannah claire brimelow
It'll probably be the same, to be fair.
tim pool
That's what I mean.
It's terrible either way.
libby emmons
Her show coming back is terrible.
Yeah, she doesn't need writers.
ian crossland
Is she going to use AI to write?
libby emmons
I don't know.
I mean, she could probably write it herself.
I mean, what's to write?
serge du preez
Yeah, seriously.
libby emmons
Literally what's to write.
Like, just go on a little rant, have something to say, bring your guest on.
serge du preez
Bing bang bongo.
Suddenly all the guests will suddenly have, like, way less interesting stories.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, maybe way more interesting stories.
libby emmons
Well, the way that they're doing it is she's saying, we'll have guests on, but we just won't talk about, we just won't promote their projects.
So that we're still complying with the writer's strike.
Which is going to be more interesting because no one wants to hear about people promoting their movies anyway.
That's the boring part of the interview.
tim pool
Yeah, I think the writer's strike is probably going to backfire to a certain degree because I remember the writer's strike back in like, what was it, 2007 or whatever?
Was that when it was?
libby emmons
I noticed.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
We all noticed.
Heroes got ruined.
We were all like, wow, what a good show.
And then season two happened with a writer's strike and it was like, this show is awful now.
It was really bad.
ian crossland
Yeah, it was 07-08.
November 5th is when it started, 2007.
tim pool
And nobody's noticed the writer's strike now.
ian crossland
It went for four months.
libby emmons
Well, and even the late-night hosts are like, we're gonna do podcasts now since we can't do the show.
We're gonna do podcasts and we'll give any revenue to our writers who are on strike, but we're still gonna go do work.
tim pool
Yeah, but like their podcast is really bad.
libby emmons
Oh, I haven't listened to it because I'm sure it's terrible.
tim pool
Because these people don't actually have anything to say.
So it's literally them being like, I'm me and you're you!
Are you you?
I'm me and you're you.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Jimmy Kimmel, Stephen, Stephen Colbert.
Hey, what about you, Jimmy Fallon?
Jimmy Fallon.
And it's like, that's all they're doing.
ian crossland
And you can, you get to watch the tone, listen to their tone and like how annoyed the alpha, it's like, you can see the alpha, the dynamics of who's the alpha.
It's Stephen Colbert supposed to be like the leader and the other guys can't stand him.
Or you can sense the annoyance.
And to be honest, I just saw one clip and Seth Meyers was extremely, Disgusted with what he had to say and do he did not look like he wanted to be there But like it's funny to watch their their emotional dynamics change when they're trying to like because they're all used to being the alpha Yeah I'm gonna say if you were the host of a late-night show and now we have multiple hosts of a late-night show being hosted by a host with nothing to talk about I mean, but I do think Dave Letterman and Johnny Carson would be funny and throw in Conan That would have been a funny podcast.
Those guys earned those on merit these new guys.
libby emmons
Those guys were funny Sorry to interrupt.
hannah claire brimelow
Oh, I was going to say the same thing.
They were funny.
And the people now are just used to being told, well, you're hilarious.
Please say this monologue that probably someone else has written.
There's not a skill.
I also think you can probably see that there is not actual friendship between any of them.
People think anyone can start a podcast and anyone literally could, but not everyone should, you know?
And this is sort of an example.
They should maybe not be podcasting.
Just because they talk for a living doesn't mean they actually have anything to say.
tim pool
They don't talk, they read scripts for a living.
hannah claire brimelow
Exactly.
tim pool
These people are proof that the machine just chose people who to put on TV and when it comes to actual battle of merit, they have none.
So I'm excited for the next decade or so when Assuming things are going in a more positive direction with like Rumble success and Public Square, meritocracy will reign supreme and all of these placed personalities will be struggling.
Let's read some more.
We got Ben D. says, Wells Remy Crowther, the man in the red bantana, saved 17 people above the 77th floor, went back in to save more and was never seen again.
They had about an hour after the plane hit, before it came down.
And so, nobody thought that was going to happen.
So they thought they were going to be able to go in, as long as they avoided the fire and, you know.
They knew there was risks, but... Yeah, man.
Patriot American says, 9-11 will always remain a sorrowful day.
My dad worked three blocks from the site until August of 01.
My buddy lost his grandfather, and his dad and North Tower collapsed, both FDNY.
I don't even know if their bodies got recovered.
ian crossland
Yeah man, I'm like sadness.
I'm just past sadness and anger.
I can't even get angry about it anymore.
I just want people to know what really happened.
I want the evidence to come out about the nanothermite and the dust.
Just all sorts of stuff.
tim pool
That'll take 50 years if we're lucky.
ian crossland
That's all I care about is that the truth comes out.
tim pool
What if Donald Trump gets re-elected and then he's just like, we're releasing all of the documents on 9-11.
ian crossland
He's so badass.
tim pool
And he just like dops it on a table and it's just the most shocking and craziest stuff you've ever heard.
libby emmons
But he didn't release the... He didn't do anything!
He didn't release the Kennedy unclassified document.
tim pool
Well, to be fair, I think he tried, but they kept just ignoring him.
libby emmons
Really?
tim pool
Yeah, so like the issue with Trump is that he would say, hey, do this thing, they go, you got it, and then they wouldn't, and then he'd forget.
hannah claire brimelow
And we learned the least about aliens from him.
To be fair, the Biden administration has told us so much.
tim pool
Let's grab another Super Chat.
S.A.
Federale says, Joe Biden literally told Jon Stewart, I tried that, they didn't buy it, or I'd be president right now, and laughed about coal mining in his family.
He hasn't had dementia his entire life, he's just a compulsive liar, he knows it.
ian crossland
Yeah, he is a compulsive liar.
That's why he said that he went to Ground Zero the day after it happened, but when it was actually weeks after it happened.
hannah claire brimelow
If he went at all!
ian crossland
Did he even go?
libby emmons
I don't know if he went with the Senate delegation on September 20th, 2001.
You could check who was in that delegation.
ian crossland
But that's the sign of a compulsive liar that's on autopilot.
libby emmons
He also, I mean, he obviously lied when he said that he never discussed his son's business arrangements with him.
ian crossland
Yeah, I imagine they're attempting to hide that data because my mom being like, I haven't seen the proof like that's not a that's not an accident that that proof hasn't been shown on MSNBC.
tim pool
All right, we got a bunch of happy birthday Libby's.
libby emmons
That's very thank- that's very kind.
Thank you.
tim pool
Meshut says, so are you guys going to call Jimmy Dora a moron?
He, two days ago on his show, said these crimes being reported in cities are propaganda reported by can- canvera- Convervatizes?
Convervatizes?
unidentified
What's that?
serge du preez
I don't know, but that's a great typo.
Good job.
unidentified
Conservatives is probably what the word's supposed to say.
serge du preez
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
tim pool
But it was like- I don't want to- I don't want to read conservative- Just because I see it sounds similar.
ian crossland
Convervatizes.
serge du preez
Convervatizes, literally.
ian crossland
What did Jimmy say?
I don't think he's an idiot.
tim pool
Uh, he can be wrong.
I like Jimmy.
He's a smart guy.
But we all get things wrong.
That's fine.
I don't know what he said.
If he got something wrong, I'd just be like, oh, hey, Jimmy, I think you're wrong about that.
And he'll say, well, I disagree.
I'll be like, okay.
He'll be like, okay.
And then we'll move on.
Because Jimmy's a good dude.
ian crossland
Yeah, being stupid, being ignorant, and being wrong are all different things.
tim pool
But they're all allowed.
Being a liar is not allowed.
ian crossland
Yeah, and being a liar is also different.
tim pool
Well, being a liar is allowed, but we don't like it.
ian crossland
But like, when someone's wrong and then they're called stupid, or when someone doesn't know information and they're called wrong, it's like, no, they're all very different things.
tim pool
Or he's got an opinion on it.
You know, whatever.
When he says the show is just propaganda, you know, whatever.
These smash and grabs I'm hearing are happening everywhere, on the East Coast even.
serge du preez
I don't know at this point.
Everywhere.
libby emmons
Well, I feel like these are probably interstate criminal organizations going around doing this.
It's not just like you and five friends being like, let's do this thing.
It's gotta be pretty organized, like a, you know, Oliver Twist Fagin kind of thing.
serge du preez
I mean, it's as simple as just getting a bunch of people on social media and just saying, hey, we're all gonna go do this at this time.
Talk on Signal, Telegram, whatever, and then everyone does it.
libby emmons
Right.
Everyone get a ride.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Michael Beacon says, thanks crew, now I'm going to second guess my husky sniffing anuses.
ian crossland
Yep, that's why.
tim pool
That's what it's all about, man.
libby emmons
Yuck.
ian crossland
What'd you eat for dinner?
tim pool
Rick Higbee says, I was named after Rick Rescorla, born 9-21-01.
Wow.
That's a good name, man.
serge du preez
It's an honor.
unidentified
Cool.
tim pool
Yeah, that story is incredible, man.
I see stories like that and I'm just thinking, you know, like, how do we not have a generation of people who are raised on that story?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Who want to be like that.
That's crazy to me.
Seriously.
That there are communists out there.
Communists are like the antithesis of that, dude.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
You know?
serge du preez
Yeah, literally.
tim pool
Everyone should be doing everything for me and I should get stuff.
Yeah, okay, dude.
libby emmons
And you need to change your perception of reality to suit me.
ian crossland
They really downplayed the heroes on 9-11 kind of thing.
Like they talked vaguely about heroes of 9-11, but like, I think it's because the whole thing was, was activated.
libby emmons
I think that it was downplayed.
At first we had a patriotic moment, and then what happened is you had an entire progressive wave come in and tell us that Islamic terrorism was our fault, that we Americans deserved it, that the hate that was shown to us was our fault, that we were the ones who caused the Islamic terrorists to hate us, and we got what we deserved, and we needed to go around placating the world and mea culpa all over the place.
to try and make people not hate us globally.
And then what happened is we started hating ourselves because that wasn't even effective,
and people still hate the great Satan of the United States.
So we went from a brief patriotic moment where we were almost unified, right?
Even Ron DeSantis says that it was the patriotism of that moment that caused him to enlist.
And that was true for a lot of people.
They enlisted after 9-11.
But then once you had the next great wave come in, and it was politically incorrect to say that the people who, you know, turned our civilian planes into bombs hated us and were Islamic, right?
You couldn't say that anymore.
And then there was this whole thing about like, you know, if you If you say that they're Islamic terrorists, what you're doing is being racist against Muslims in the United States.
And it all got twisted around into this huge amount of self-hatred, where now we are a self-hating nation that denies ourself any joy in patriotism.
hannah claire brimelow
It's sad.
How can you raise a whole generation?
libby emmons
And that's where we are.
And now we have this insane narcissism.
We have this need to make everybody's perception of reality conform to our perception of reality.
Right?
Like right down to these stupid pronouns, you know?
unidentified
That's weird.
libby emmons
And that's where we are.
A lot of it, I think, is the motion of political correctness into progressivism.
serge du preez
It's funny how you watch political correctness on South Park, and you see how they've had arcs with it over a 20-year period, and then they have it come back again, and they say, oh, it's all happening again, because it's literally what happens.
It comes back.
libby emmons
Over and over again, yeah.
And it started in, like, 89.
Yeah.
tim pool
Let's read this.
We've got The Dude Abides, 95, says, speaking of New Mexico, over here in Illinois, we had a preliminary injunction for our assault weapons ban a few months ago, which got overturned.
Thousands bought arms during it, and the governors say they will not be grandfathered in.
People will be criminals on October 1st.
What?
Yup.
They keep trying.
But look, man, there are evil states, and everyone looks to these evil states like, oh no, our gun rights are being taken away.
It's like, in those evil states.
And then there's more than half the country where it's unrestricted.
Granted, I know, NFA still exists, and it's ridiculous that there's a lot of bans on stupid things.
Suppressors should be, you should be able to walk into a store, you shouldn't even need a background check for a suppressor.
I'm talking to Brandon Herrera on Friday, and I was explaining how in Maryland, the SCAR-20S is legal, but an M1A is illegal.
serge du preez
Why?
tim pool
It makes literally no sense.
At all.
A SCAR-20S is like a modern 308, and an M1A is like an old school.
And for no reason, no logical reason.
So when it comes to suppressors, they're scary.
Because in movies they go pew pew pew!
They don't actually do that.
If you're in your home, and you want home defense, a suppressor is a very important thing to have.
But they're very very difficult to get.
ian crossland
That's so you don't death in yourself.
serge du preez
It's still super loud.
tim pool
It's still gonna mess you up.
What's the theory of why they would... Some politician saw a movie where a guy goes... And they're like, we can't let people be assassins, that's too dangerous.
libby emmons
But it doesn't really do that?
tim pool
No!
serge du preez
Not even close.
libby emmons
It's still wicked loud?
tim pool
Wicked loud.
Yeah, like if you fired one in here, you'd be like, ah, like if a gun went off in this room,
you would be deaf.
libby emmons
Like temporarily.
tim pool
Okay.
You'd hear like, you'd be messed up.
That's why you always gotta have your ear pro, your eye pro.
serge du preez
Yeah.
tim pool
But, or from going to rock concerts too much, huh?
Yeah.
But even with a suppressor, it's loud.
It's just better.
And so I think it was the dude from Phoenix Ammo who said this.
like it makes it tolerable with your, with, if you're not, you don't have ear protection on and you're outside.
libby emmons
Interesting.
Okay.
tim pool
But think about this.
You're in your house.
Someone breaks in and you grab your gun to defend yourself.
You're going to be deaf if you do.
libby emmons
Not only permanently, you're going to be deafened by the blast.
But then you're in trouble too because then you can't hear whatever else they're doing.
tim pool
These are, so what do you do?
It's like, here's someone coming to your house, and you put on your headphones, and it is what it is.
So if they didn't ban things like suppressors, or I shouldn't say ban, but restrict them under the NFA, people would be safer.
Much safer.
Stupid.
Stupid rules, stupid rules.
Anyway.
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libby emmons
Yeah, I want to shout out thepostmillennial.com.
We're doing a lot of great work there.
We have some amazing writers, reporters, and editors, and I'd love for you to check out what we're doing.
Also, humanevents.com.
We've been putting out some really incredible op-eds and stories, and you should come check that out.
And also, I want to invite you to be members at thepostmillennial.com slash subscribe.
That would be great.
You can help out independent media and journalism and Andy Ngo and Katie and Beth and everybody else who's doing this great work.
So I'd love to see you there.
And also, I hope to see you in Miami on October 6th because that's going to be killer.
tim pool
Yeah, it's gonna be super awesome.
It's gonna be just like a super cool thing.
Everyone's gonna be hanging out.
When we did the event in New York, we were walking around and stuff, so I hope, you know, people come hang out.
I don't know how, you know, Matt Gaetz, Patrick Pett David, Donald Trump Jr.
might be a little bit more secure, it's up to them, but I think it's like everything's just, you know, we'll be hanging out, it'll be fun.
hannah claire brimelow
I think meeting like-minded people, right?
Like, if you're coming to a Tincast event, you probably share views with other people in the audience.
You should go so you can build a community amongst yourselves.
tim pool
We are doing a 3 p.m.
elite members private event, like, lunch or something.
serge du preez
Nice.
tim pool
It's like, I have no time to eat during the day, so, like, this is when I get to eat food.
So I'm like, oh, we'll do a thing, we'll have food, and then I'll get to eat, and then we get to hang out with all the elite members.
libby emmons
Make sure you get someone to get you some food so that you don't end up talking to people the whole time and still don't eat.
tim pool
Well, it'll be like hors d'oeuvres or something.
I'll figure it out.
But yeah, elite members sign up at TimCast.com at the $100 a month level or higher.
And as a member at any level, you get access to the Discord where there's a pre-show and after show every night on the server.
It's really, really cool.
Shout out to all the people on the Discord who are running that.
But anyway, we should get to it.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, and I hope all the Discord members who hang out and talk to each other come to Miami and meet each other in person.
I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.
I'm a writer for TimCast.com.
I'll also be in Miami, and I hope to see you guys all there.
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unidentified
Yes.
hannah claire brimelow
too.
If you want to follow me personally, I'm on x at hcbromelo and on Instagram at hanclair.b.
Thank you guys so much.
It's so fun to be here with all of you.
ian crossland
Yes.
libby emmons
I forgot my Twitter.
ian crossland
Your Twitter is at Libby Emmons.
libby emmons
Thank you.
ian crossland
Follow Libby on Twitter at Libby Emmons.
You're welcome.
I appreciate it.
And hit me up.
I'll see you guys at the Florida event.
It's going to be hot.
Get your tickets at TimCast.com.
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Get your tickets there.
I'm happy to be here.
Thank you so much for coming.
Have a nice evening.
See you later.
serge du preez
Yep, Miami is going to be cool.
I've been there.
It's going to be sweet.
I hope you guys actually do come and join us.
My name is AtSurge.com.
I want to shout out Kellen for last week for helping me while I was ill and dying.
I really appreciate that, dude.
Anyways, let's get to this after show and talk about 9-11 because it's changed my life.
That's for sure.
tim pool
We will see you all over at TimCast.com in a couple minutes.
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