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July 2, 2023 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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| Alright, everybody, um... Is there, like, a weird buzzing going on? | ||
| You hear that? | ||
| No, no, it's when I talk. | ||
| When I talk, there's a buzzing. | ||
| I don't hear when you talk. | ||
| Oh, well, we're gonna, we're gonna... Basically, what happens is, like, there's a noise gate on, so the noise gate will cancel it, so when you speak, you're just enough of a volume, and that's still gonna get into the mics no matter what I do, so... Oh, I see, I see, I see. | ||
| Alright, everybody, we got Snopes'd. | ||
| Here's the story from Snopes. | ||
| Does a video show NYC drag marchers chanting, we're coming for your children? | ||
| You see, I'm surprised they rated this true, you know why? | ||
| Because they're liars? | ||
| Because they put drag marchers. | ||
| They could have just said false. | ||
| And then did this big explanation saying they weren't drag marchers, they were pride marchers. | ||
| They're just topless women, and shit, chanting. | ||
| But we got a true rating here, we got true. | ||
| It says a video captured at the NYC drag march on June 23rd shows some of the attendees chanting, we're here, we're queer, coming for your children. | ||
| True, that happened. | ||
| That's right! | ||
| And now we're gonna play the video that's going to just piss everybody off. | ||
| William Wolfe tweets the Oberfeld decision legislated morality from the Supreme Court bench. | ||
| And this is what that morality looks like. | ||
| Yeah, y'all are gonna get really mad when you see this, but I'm playing it. | ||
| Here's an obese old man spreading his cheeks in front of a bunch of children and thrusting his genitals. | ||
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Perfect. | |
| They're laughing. | ||
| Look at these kids. | ||
| Look at him smiling. | ||
| That's a pedophile. | ||
| That guy's a pedophile. | ||
| Oh God, he's getting off on that for sure. | ||
| Yeah, of course he is. | ||
| And he's waving to the kids. | ||
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They're cheering for it. | |
| Waving back. | ||
| This is not the first time this guy's done this, I'm pretty sure. | ||
| There's other videos from previously that we've seen, I'm pretty sure, of this guy. | ||
| Could be wrong, but I think it's him. | ||
| And there are kids watching it happen. | ||
| Like, this is it. | ||
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What is shaking your ass if little kids have to do with sex or gender? | |
| What does it have to do with love? | ||
| It has everything to do with sex. | ||
| Kink. | ||
| And he's doing it specifically in front of little kids. | ||
| And when I mean sex or gender I mean male or female or your gender affiliation. | ||
| It's purely sexual. | ||
| It's purely erotic. | ||
| Aimed at children. | ||
| That is fucking vile. | ||
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| Yes. | ||
| It's gross. | ||
| It's fucking horrible. | ||
| And this is where your society has gone to. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because the parents are supporting it. | ||
| The cops aren't doing anything about it. | ||
| There are two different realities in this country. | ||
| One, I would describe as abject evil, and one I would describe as, like, regular people. | ||
| I don't think there is an abject good in this country. | ||
| I think there are flawed people trying their best, and then there's demons, in the figurative sense, plaguing this country with chaos disorder, evil, filth, etc. | ||
| Yeah, there's this phenomenon where if it happened to you... This guy should be arrested and criminally charged and placed on a sex offender list. | ||
| No question. | ||
| The thing is, is it's so disordered, right? | ||
| Like, it's, it's so, like, these parents, like, if I was in that audience, like, let's say I support the LGBT movement and everything like that. | ||
| If I was there with my kids and I saw that, I would, like, shield them, right? | ||
| Like, it's like a natural, basic parental protection instinct that would, like, kick in. | ||
| But these people don't have that. | ||
| And it's, it's, it's really hurtful. | ||
| Like, that video makes me, like, not just angry, it makes me sad. | ||
| Because there are all these parents who are just not, not only not protecting their kids and turning their eyes from it, or confronting that guy, they're cheering it. | ||
| Like, they're cheering it. | ||
| Yeah, it's because they don't want to be called Karen. | ||
| I was thinking about this in Martinsburg, in West Virginia, watching it. | ||
| I was thinking, like, why are these mothers here with their kids and stuff? | ||
| It's because they don't want to be called Karen. | ||
| They don't want to be called racist, they don't want to be called transphobic, and they're like, well, this is what I have to do in order to get best, is they feel like they're compelled. | ||
| Otherwise, they'll be screamed at and yelled at, and it'll be the end of their life. | ||
| Wait, wait, wait. | ||
| Are you saying repeal the 19th? | ||
| Do you ever see dads at these events with their kids? | ||
| Disavow. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| I don't disavow. | ||
| For the most part, I don't think so. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| It's a bunch of toxic compassion, these females that are like... No, there are guys there. | ||
| There are. | ||
| I see a lot of women. | ||
| When I watch these things, I tend to see a lot of women, single women with kids. | ||
| When I see kids, I usually see, like, a woman with them. | ||
| And I don't want to make assumptions. | ||
| I don't go to these things. | ||
| I don't watch that much. | ||
| But there is this, like, thing of, like, wanting to... So much compassion for something that you're willing to tolerate, even if it's, like, you know, it's to the point where, like, you know, it's time to go to bed now. | ||
| It's time to put this thing to sleep. | ||
| Maybe it's a natural course of action where... What is it called again? | ||
| Apoptosis? | ||
| Yeah, that's where a cell programs itself to die because it's no longer needed by the system. | ||
| Maybe what we're seeing is some kind of thing like that where there's too many people. | ||
| So what happens is, look, the strong survive and the weak die off is the natural order of things, basically. | ||
| But humans are better than that. | ||
| And so we found ways to protect, protect life and help people survive. | ||
| 300 years ago, somebody was born with no legs, they're probably not gonna make it. | ||
| Today's day and age, we got machines, technology, they're gonna make it. | ||
| And some of those people live good, healthy, happy lives. | ||
| But with that, people who lack the mental capacity to persist end up surviving. | ||
| And I'm not saying it's a bad thing. | ||
| I'm saying it's good that we save people. | ||
| However, you can't save people from themselves. | ||
| So what happens is, you get this bubbling up of a core culture of people who work towards their own destruction. | ||
| At first, you can sort of suppress it and be like, guys, stop doing that. | ||
| We don't allow it. | ||
| And you don't allow it. | ||
| It stops. | ||
| Things that hurt kids and whatever. | ||
| But eventually, there's too many of them. | ||
| And now, there's the normal hemisphere of humans who are trying to preserve a moderate degree of order so that we can have our freedoms but survive. | ||
| And then you have chaos. | ||
| And at this point, chaos and order are clashing. | ||
| But chaos will kill itself. | ||
| Chaos will cease to exist. | ||
| Because It can't. | ||
| Imagine it this way. | ||
| Two people seek to build a tower. | ||
| One guy uses order by which he constructs his tower. | ||
| The other guy randomly places blocks and bricks wherever he feels like it. | ||
| Eventually, the tower on the left, you know what, to be honest, it'll grow taller faster. | ||
| And then it'll collapse. | ||
| And the ordered structure will become long-standing and last a thousand years. | ||
| What I see here with these kids, you might be angry and say, these poor kids, and I agree, but these kids are gonna grow up twisted and broken, and they're gonna be depressed, angry, they're not gonna have kids, they're gonna abort their kids, they're gonna sterilize their kids, same as their parents, and eventually they cease to exist. | ||
| I'll give you an example. | ||
| On the main show we talked about Emma Vigeland. | ||
| Desistence rates are upwards of 90%. | ||
| But let's just say, we'll use the median between the 60 and 90%, we'll call it 75. | ||
| If 75% of kids will desist from gender dysphoria and lead happy lives, that's a good thing. | ||
| Why then would Emma want to condemn those 75% of kids into gender dysphoria for the rest of their lives, which is a high suicidality? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| If you take 10 kids, And you give half to the left and half to the right. | ||
| The ones on the right will desist and have happy lives. | ||
| The ones on the left will transition, become suicidal, and half of them will kill themselves. | ||
| That strategy of the left leads to their self-destruction. | ||
| And that's not even the sterilization of their kids. | ||
| That's them pushing a lifestyle that they know, and they explain, results in suicide. | ||
| What can you do? | ||
| They demand, they beg for the right to abort and sterilize their kids. | ||
| At a certain point, you say, I guess, okay? | ||
| Yeah, call it out for sure. | ||
| I keep thinking about, I had a show with Elijah Schaefer on Nightly Offensive, his new show, Nightly Offensive, and we talked about, they saw, you see two girls, one cup? | ||
| It's like pornographic, disgusting shit, where like these two girls start making out, and then- I wouldn't describe it. | ||
| Oh, we're on the after show. | ||
| I can go deep. | ||
| If you want to. | ||
| Real quick, sorry. | ||
| For those that are upset about the streaming issues, it's Rumble, not us. | ||
| Two girls making out, then somebody shits in an ice cream cone and they start eating the shit. | ||
| It's fucking disgusting. | ||
| I was vomiting when I saw it. | ||
| I was like 30, 25. | ||
| Elijah told me he saw it when he was 9. | ||
| I don't know how, maybe these kids already know what the fuck is going on. | ||
| I'm so on the outside of this. | ||
| I had sex ed in 5th grade in 1986 or something, 88, and I didn't have the internet. | ||
| I didn't see porn until I was like 18 or 17 years old. | ||
| I never saw porn. | ||
| Uh, I don't know how- Yeah, I'm sorry. | ||
| The Rumble's completely broken right now. | ||
| Is it, like, fucking in and out, or are we even on? | ||
| You can't even hear what we're saying, apparently. | ||
| Damn! | ||
| Can you see me? | ||
| No, I'm just kidding. | ||
| Just cutting in and out. | ||
| It's like- You can see on my feet here, it's so choppy. | ||
| People are calling it chopcast and stuff like that. | ||
| Chopcast. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it's Rumble. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| I like Rumble, guys, but this is what happens. | ||
| They're starting up. | ||
| They're working on it. | ||
| It is what it is. | ||
| We're recording local still, so this can still go up. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Afterwards, without the chop. | ||
| We're recording it. | ||
| It's gonna take two hours to upload. | ||
| Yeah, that's the other problem. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Come on, Rumble! | ||
| You know, they're putting a lot of money into, like, signing these big shows and big creators, and when we first started using Rumble infrastructure, it was, uh... uploaded really quickly, and now it's, like, really hard to upload videos. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is that because of the number of... they haven't expanded the servers, and because of the new... Yeah, they're signing a bunch of people, maybe. | ||
| Maybe, perhaps. | ||
| But whatever! | ||
| I mean... | ||
| Yeah, we should be focused, or we should be featured right now. | ||
| Some people say it's fine. | ||
| Smoothed out, quality dropped. | ||
| The quality should... Maybe that's the issue. | ||
| Are you seeing our red frame right here? | ||
| I know, and we're at like 8 megabits per second. | ||
| I know. | ||
| We were just streaming on YouTube with literally no problems. | ||
| And that's it, you know what I mean? | ||
| But anyway, people said the audio is fine, it's just slow video. | ||
| Okay, there you go. | ||
| Anyway, I don't know if you want to continue with what you were saying, Ian. | ||
| This... | ||
| Are you not pretending to be choppy? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's just, this is a challenging conversation for me to have, because I want to talk at these people and be like, you can't have your kids see sexual things when they're 10. | ||
| But like Elijah told me, he saw two girls, one cup at age of nine. | ||
| That's not supposed to happen. | ||
| I know, but it is happening. | ||
| Like it, maybe it is supposed to happen. | ||
| The internet has blasted it all open. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| I was just going to say, there is a movement in the states right now. | ||
| We're up to seven states that have passed age verification laws. | ||
| So basically the states have it so that in order to deliver pornography to someone, you have to hire a third party ID verifier. | ||
| It's just like DraftKings or FanDuel. | ||
| When you want to place a sports bet, you've got to upload your photo ID before you can get access to it. | ||
| There's already seven states that have done it. | ||
| Texas was the latest one that got it done. | ||
| Let me ask you. | ||
| If a guy went to a playground and put up a picture, put up a bunch of pictures of Two Girls One Cup, would he get arrested? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So if somebody posts Two Girls One Cup to a website that children have access to, why is that any different? | ||
| Fuck it, because people are confused and slow to create and react. | ||
| Like, people don't know what the fuck they're- So how about we just say, we know kids have access to the internet, and if you make pornographic material readily available to children, you go to jail? | ||
| No, it goes back to what you were talking about earlier about West Virginia and how we don't enforce the laws that are currently on the books. | ||
| Like, there are federal laws that say you can't even actually deliver pornography through the U.S. | ||
| Postal Service. | ||
| Like, you could actually get an attorney general at DOJ that enforces the law, and it would be done overnight. | ||
| So you have an age restriction on YouPorn, for instance, where you have to sign in with an ID. | ||
| ID verification. | ||
| And then people are not going to want to do it. | ||
| Yeah, a lot of people won't. | ||
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Good. | |
| It's good. | ||
| It's funny when Emma's like, you're for censorship. | ||
| I'm like, of course I am. | ||
| Like the idea that you wouldn't want to censor some things. | ||
| We don't want to censor political debate. | ||
| We want to censor things that children should not be looking at. | ||
| Adults, I could give a shit. | ||
| Technically the censor will look at something and say, that's fine. | ||
| And they won't stop it. | ||
| So you still want to censor political debate and make sure that people don't start threatening to murder each other. | ||
| We want censors on social media who are looking at political debate, but we think they've crossed the line. | ||
| We want political debate to be allowed, but we don't want it to cross the line into overt incitement to violence and instruction on causing serious harm. | ||
| Well, so if we made YouPorn—I was going to say YouTube. | ||
| And I mean physical bodily harm. | ||
| I don't mean stupid emotional harm nonsense. | ||
| Yeah, if they had to get people to sign up for 18... | ||
| Then if a kid somehow just went on there and was like, yeah, I'm watching it, would you arrest the kid? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| So first of all, some of these laws in these states have liability protections or a private right of action. | ||
| So if the website delivers it still to your kid, look, if they hack it, that's one thing. | ||
| That is, your kid's getting a fake ID and hacking the system. | ||
| It's different online versus in person when you use a fake ID to get alcohol, right? | ||
| So, there'd have to be some other, you know, consequences to it, but it's just the beginning of the process. | ||
| 1997, the Supreme Court struck down the Communications Decency Act, except for Section 230, and we've gone, like, 30 years, basically, with all these advancements in internet technology and porn online, but no protection. | ||
| So, it's just the start of a movement to start protecting kids online. | ||
| Yeah, especially, like, in Metaverse, where Two people's avatars are talking, and they'll start simulating video game sex on each other. | ||
| One will be like a nine-year-old in his VR, and the other will be like a 60-year-old man. | ||
| But the kid won't know, the nine-year-old won't know. | ||
| Then they're gonna put on fucking haptic feedback, where they can feel the vibration on their cock. | ||
| It's gonna be... We need protections like now, now, now. | ||
| Technology's moving faster than law can keep up with. | ||
| And protection is so vague, I have no idea how to even begin. | ||
| Can't do it. | ||
| So you just allow these other humans to become this new species of hyper-sexualized robot people? | ||
| So I have a theory... No, the natural evolutionary process will destroy those people, and those of strong will and virtue will survive. | ||
| I feel like there's... I've talked about this a little bit, and it sounds real science fiction-y, but I'm starting to think that it might be something that happens in the future. | ||
| And it's like the Superman story. | ||
| I think it's realistic to say that in the future there are going to be people that are like no we're not touching any of this technology and they're going to be like the Amish and they're going to need superhuman augmented people to defend their right to not be augmented. And there's going to be probably organizations | ||
| of literal superhuman people, augmented human beings, whether it be mechanically or | ||
| through, you know, some kind of brain chips or whatever that will make them superhuman. And they're going | ||
| there will be bat like fights, whether it be actual physical fights or legal fights about | ||
| the right of someone to not be augmented because the people that are augmented are going | ||
| to make the argument. If you are not augmented, you won't have the same longevity that we have | ||
| as the augmented people. | ||
| You're not going to be able to see things. | ||
| You can't live in a world where people can move super fast, et cetera, et cetera, as a normal human. | ||
| We have to be able to augment children because you're not giving them the proper head start that they need to survive in the modern world. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| They're going to say you're an anti-Auggie. | ||
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Yeah, I could see that. | |
| The anti-Auggies don't want kids to get their treatment to keep them alive, they want their kids to die. | ||
| And then some kids are going to die in a car accident and they're going to be like, this is what it was? | ||
| Because they didn't get their kid augmented, the kid died in a car accident. | ||
| Especially if there's an emergency and everyone that's plugged in has a rapid response to the emergency because they all understand it's happening, but then the normies Move real slow and they're like, what? | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| And you're like, they're like fucking cattle. | ||
| We need to find, I tweeted this out, we want to hire a film director and producer to start making short films because I like Black Mirror, but I don't want to make hour and a half long movies. | ||
| Easy 10 minute short films on a bunch of different ideas. | ||
| You just gave me an idea. | ||
| It's a world where there's a very dominant metaverse going on. | ||
| Where people plug in their neural links and then do work from the neural space. | ||
| But it's only like 70% penetration. | ||
| 30% of people aren't using it for whatever reason. | ||
| And then there is a network outage that hits everyone at the same time, incapacitating everyone in the network, killing or maiming them. | ||
| What would the world be like if all those people were instantly wiped out? | ||
| That'd be a cool short film. | ||
| Power struggle. | ||
| Not even. | ||
| It would be like people would come out of the house and be like, look man, I work in a coal mine. | ||
| Like, I don't know what's going on. | ||
| And they'd walk in and be like, all our state senators are gone. | ||
| And so it's like, there's still a machine in place, but we have like vague ideas of how to run it. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| And then the guy's like, I'm gonna plug it in. | ||
| And then he like puts it on his nuts. | ||
| And he's like, ah! | ||
| That's not what I'm talking about! | ||
| Oh, I was thinking idiocracy. | ||
| I'm saying regular working class people waking up to see all of the elites and urban liberals have Neuralinked themselves and a network surge fried their brains. | ||
| Yeah, that'd be awesome. | ||
| Because technology is moving faster than law and legal protections. | ||
| It'd be easier to shoot, too. | ||
| That'd be awesome. | ||
| It'd be an awesome movie. | ||
| It'd be easy to shoot, too. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah, so we want to, we've got a bunch of suggestions, but, you know, try to find someone who can, we can sit down, come up with an idea, and then they can write it out, and then produce it, and film it, and we do budgets for these shows. | ||
| So are people sending in their resumes, basically send in clips of movies you've shot, if you want to direct stuff with TimCast? | ||
| I think going through members is probably the best way to do it. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| Yeah, so like, that's what we're talking about with construction stuff. | ||
| I'm just, at this point, I think we're only going to hire people who submit through our members, like, network. | ||
| Because I know these are going to be trustworthy people who want to work and get the job done, instead of like, I know a guy who can do it, and then we meet a guy who's like, sure, I'll do it, and then he does it wrong, and it's like, ugh. | ||
| So. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But yeah, I'd like to start that ASAP, you know? | ||
| We got Lauren Southern's documentaries coming out. | ||
| Ben's documentary just came out last week. | ||
| I was sick. | ||
| I think we got to figure out a better promotion for it because me getting sick kind of disrupted everything. | ||
| But short films would be a lot of fun. | ||
| Create a little short film series. | ||
| Black Mirror-esque. | ||
| The consequences of technology and various ideas. | ||
| But I'm like watching Black Mirror. | ||
| I'm like, this whole episode could have been 10 minutes. | ||
| It doesn't need to be an hour long. | ||
| Yeah, we could do it better. | ||
| Just shorter. | ||
| You get the point across, you know? | ||
| That'd be cool. | ||
| I like Electric Dreams, I think it was called. | ||
| We talked about that one a lot. | ||
| That Philip K. Dick stuff. | ||
| Even Android's Dream of Electric Sheep? | ||
| Yeah, the show's called Electric Sheep. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| On Amazon. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Oh, Electric Dreams. | ||
| Electric Dreams, yeah, right. | ||
| Richard Madden, Bryan Cranston, Buscemi's in it. | ||
| Yeah, it's a good one, it's a good one. | ||
| The last one's the best, Kill All Others. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| I know that one. | ||
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You can tell me about it. | |
| I haven't seen it yet. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| So yeah, we're looking for people for that. | ||
| That'd be cool. | ||
| And there's a bunch of other stuff, you know, we could do. | ||
| We could do a dystopia of, like, the left-wins. | ||
| The left-wins the culture war. | ||
| And it wouldn't be hokey, like, people being like, tell me your pronouns, and the kid says something stupid in the school, you know, like those gag videos they make. | ||
| But a serious vision of what it's like. | ||
| A guy walks into a Starbucks and there's a guy in a clown costume. | ||
| And then he's got a pronoun thing on his name and you're like, hi, how's it going? | ||
| You order your coffee. | ||
| You go outside, everyone's dressed very strangely. | ||
| There's naked people and stuff like that. | ||
| I could see where a teacher gives a kid a wire to wear home to his parents and the kid records his parents not using his pronouns. | ||
| We could do one where a kid gets kidnapped, meets a stranger on the internet who brings him to Washington to get a sex change operation. | ||
| Craigslist shit, no doubt on Craigslist. | ||
| Craigslist is awesome. | ||
| That would be a cool short film. | ||
| Horror story. | ||
| parents are like come back from soccer practice their kid and he's and they're like all right you know that was fun they get food it shows the family like having ice cream and eating pizza and they're high-fiving then the kid goes home and he goes online and he's like he's on tic-tac on his phone he gets a message starts getting sent these videos watching them starts dressing weirdly, making videos of himself, | ||
| then someone says, like, your parents would never understand, | ||
| or the parents are like, what are you doing? They catch him making the videos, | ||
| he cries, then he goes online and they're like, you need help. | ||
| You're being abused. Like, what's your address on- I'll come and help you. | ||
| And they're like, my parents are being mean. | ||
| And then they go to the kid's house. | ||
| Kid gets in. | ||
| It's like some creepy, fat old man in tighty whities who looks at the kid and smiles and says, no one's going to hurt you. | ||
| We're going to California. | ||
| We're going to Colorado. | ||
| We're going to Washington. | ||
| And then it ends with the kid, like on the surgery table. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Taking you out west. | ||
| And then we can just make it really grotesque and be like, it ends with the obituary of the 20 year old kid, now 20 years old, committing suicide. | ||
| A movie like that might need to be like 20 minutes to be honest. | ||
| Or it would start partway through his sex addiction on the computer where he's already fucked up. | ||
| Well, it's about a little kid getting groomed. | ||
| Basically, it's the stories we've heard from these detransitioners, where they went on Tumblr or whatever, and everyone kept cheering them on, saying, you're so cool. | ||
| And so it would be like a kid on TikTok, and he posts a video playing baseball. | ||
| And then someone says something like, that shirt's really cool. | ||
| Have you tried wearing a shirt like this? | ||
| And then people are like, yeah, that would be way cool if you did this. | ||
| And he gets all these comments from people being like, try this one on, try this one on. | ||
| And then whenever the kid does something weird, it gets all the likes and the groomers are internet grooming the kid. | ||
| And then someone says, let me come pick you up. | ||
| We're going to make something great. | ||
| Gross. | ||
| That's what they do. | ||
| That's exactly what they do. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's what we were told by, I think it was Helena Kirshner, that every time she'd post a video or a photo that was slightly more boyish, everyone would be like, you're so great and amazing. | ||
| You're the coolest ever. | ||
| And so she was like, this feels good, I wanna do more of it. | ||
| It would be cool if we could make two episodes. | ||
| One of them was from the groomer's perspective, like a community of groomers, and it was from their perspective, and it was just an evil, you're like, oh, they're grooming the kids and you see it all. | ||
| The other one is from the kid's perspective, and you're like, I'm so glad he's going to get what he needs. | ||
| And when you see both episodes, you realize how fucked up it is. | ||
| But if you only see one, you might not, it would still have to stand on its own. | ||
| Let's get some callers in the conversation. | ||
| Yeah, I'd love to have them. | ||
| Hopefully you guys can hear us. | ||
| I think that it's working fine through the Discord. | ||
| Asuna-sama, you want to tell me how it is? | ||
| Someone was saying that there's a lot of storms on the East Coast. | ||
| That's what I think it is. | ||
| I don't know, but they're in Florida. | ||
| I got a storm warning on my phone today. | ||
| Yeah, I got that too. | ||
| We bypassed them somehow. | ||
| Anyways, Asuna-sama, how are you doing? | ||
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Hey, how's it going? | |
| I'm doing good. | ||
| Good. | ||
| How's it coming through for Discord for you? | ||
| It's all right? | ||
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It's coming through nice and clear for me. | |
| Yeah, Discord's fine. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Some people are saying... Tim's voice sounds a little off to me, but I think that's just the after effects of whatever was going on with you last week. | |
| Right, that's actually just because... Yeah, it's Tim's voice and also we have the gate on kind of as much as it possibly can be in order to try and get those two window units out of the... Yeah, I don't care about the AC units. | ||
| The noise gate's probably worse. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah, we're short on time, we've got more callers waiting, so let's get into it. | |
| We've talked about the Founding Fathers, how they rebelled against the English crown for the tyranny that they were perpetrating then, and I think everybody here and everybody watching agrees that that was necessary and had to happen. | ||
| And so my question is, with how our current government and institutions are acting Far more tyrannical than the English monarchy ever was, arguably orders of magnitude more. | ||
| At what point does it become morally just for us to also alter or abolish that government? | ||
| Do we wait for something overt like say the holocaust level or is the line before that? | ||
| There's never going to be a moment. | ||
| It's not how it works. | ||
| It's not going to be like everyone gets together and they're like, we hereby declare! | ||
| What'll happen is it'll be gradual. | ||
| If anything like that does happen, it will be catastrophic, gradual. | ||
| It'll be scary and horrifying. | ||
| The American Revolutionary period was over 20 years. | ||
| It wasn't like, within the span of a few months, they got together and said, this is not right! | ||
| It was a generation of people who grew up in this space, and they had petitioned the government over and over and over again. | ||
| Not to mention, the crown was 3,000 miles away. | ||
| We're also in a different technological era, so I think what will likely happen is we're going to start witnessing social decay. | ||
| Like I mentioned, the parchment, the fabric of this country is being burned from the inside. | ||
| And I think what's likely to happen is You'll see some dudes in a small town in Nebraska barricade off their highway and then set up a checkpoint. | ||
| Little things like that will happen until the idea of a revolution won't be a profound thing. | ||
| It will be like a, but that's already happening kind of thing. | ||
| That was the American Revolutionary period. | ||
| It was 20 years. | ||
| The Boston Massacre and the Tea Party were years apart from each other. | ||
| Years. | ||
| So where we are now? | ||
| You could say Occupy Wall Street was the beginning, who knows? | ||
| 2020 might be the beginning. | ||
| The Civil War, they were talking about Civil War in the 1820s, and then it wasn't until 1865 something actually kicked off, and even when it did, no one thought it was! | ||
| If the Confederacy, after the first Battle of Bull Run, marched into D.C., they would have won the war instantly. | ||
| But they did not think it was a civil war, so they said, hey, we drove off the federal troops, everyone go home. | ||
| On their part, mistake. | ||
| So anyway, where does it come to in the United States? | ||
| I think by the time it ever actually comes to that, if it does, no one's going to be asking the question about if it does. | ||
| They're going to be like, oh, it happened. | ||
| Or like, what do you mean? | ||
| It's already happening. | ||
| It might take place in the digital realm, too. | ||
| It's a different control structure. | ||
| I mean, it is still about resources. | ||
| It's a different world. | ||
| It's technology. | ||
| Yeah, like if you think you're at war, but you're not, then you basically are. | ||
| And if you think you're not at war, then you might not be. | ||
| If they can get you to believe But anyway, I digress. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's not going to be, like, here's the thing too, like, the American Revolution is a different period. | ||
| We're in a technologically advanced period relative to then. | ||
| This could be it. | ||
| We could literally be in it right now. | ||
| And people are like, but in the past, they did it this way. | ||
| And it's like, yeah, well, you know, we fly now. | ||
| That was a very, very different reality. | ||
| We communicated the speed of light now. | ||
| Very, very different. | ||
| The speed of communication, I think, has a lot to do with with why there hasn't been violence now, like in a similar fashion as there was back in the day. | ||
| I think that people can figure out what's actually going on. | ||
| There's still a fog of war, of course, but it's not nearly as bad as it was, you know, 200 years ago or whatever. | ||
| Just like Tim was saying, it's like, you know, The Civil War period happened over 20 years. | ||
| A lot of that time was because the participants didn't know about events until weeks or months later. | ||
| Oh, yeah, seriously. | ||
| You know? | ||
| I mean, the Declaration of Independence took three months to get to the crown and three months to come back. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So it's like we signed a thing six months from now. | ||
| We'll see what happens. | ||
| On Friday on the Culture War podcast, you guys brought up crime statistics in the 90s that showed this giant drop off in crime from like 8 murders per 100,000 to 3 per 100,000 per capita, and it just coincided with the internet. | ||
| I was screaming at the machine, I couldn't get up to you guys, but I was like, I think it was the internet, the speed of communication just caused for a mass plummet in crime. | ||
| People are able to at least commit crimes from their house now instead of having to go out and do it. | ||
| But I described this. | ||
| 1993 is when it started. | ||
| In 2006, you see a massive drop off in murders because of the advent of cell phones. | ||
| Yeah, that was the next jump of it. | ||
| The first jump was like 93. | ||
| People were still trying to kill each other, but they were surviving, so they don't get counted as murders anymore. | ||
| And also, I think a lot of conflict gets resolved. | ||
| It gets more resolved peacefully, fast, because you were able to communicate faster. | ||
| But yeah, so anyway, at what point do we petition the government for redress of grievances? | ||
| We do that now. | ||
| We do it non-stop. | ||
| We always do it. | ||
| We've always done it. | ||
| Protests every single day. | ||
| And then what happens is, with the conflict we're seeing in the culture war, it's increasingly moving towards destabilization, which results in a culture clash that no one asks for. | ||
| The Revolutionary Period didn't need... Like, the Founding Fathers were the people of the time who rose to the occasion, but clearly the problems were bubbling up and leading to that point over 20 years. | ||
| Like, Thomas Jefferson was what, like 26 when he signed it? | ||
| Thomas Jefferson was 33 when he wrote the Declaration. | ||
| 33. | ||
| Someone was in their 20s. | ||
| There were plenty of them that were in their 20s. | ||
| Very young. | ||
| And that means that they were like babies when the first thoughts of revolution were bubbling up and the conflict was starting. | ||
| So it's not like, you know, they were born and bred in the conflict already and then it came to the point where it was the rebellion in the colonies and then, you know, dissolution of, you know, crown control. | ||
| So we'll see, man. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think the idea is we want to be petitioning a regis of grievances now, but we're a massive country, and the cult is massive. | ||
| Democrats won't, aren't going to side with this. | ||
| Republicans are too weak, so eventually the machine breaks, and then whether you want it or not, conflict happens. | ||
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Yeah, I get what you're saying, and you definitely have a lot of good insight there, and I don't want to keep anyone waiting, but I feel like the question, the answer you guys gave wasn't really Addressing the question itself. | |
| My question wasn't so much, how will it happen? | ||
| When will it happen? | ||
| It was the morality of it. | ||
| What degree of tyranny? | ||
| What degree of petition and fail? | ||
| When does it become morally justified? | ||
| Not, when will it break down? | ||
| No, I did answer that. | ||
| I said, always, right now. | ||
| But the response, it's always a proportional response. | ||
| So what do you do now? | ||
| Like the Founding Fathers, you petition the government. | ||
| That's what they did. | ||
| And it was a 20-year period before it bubbled up. | ||
| So the issue is, the tyranny is here. | ||
| Biden's corrupt, it's obvious. | ||
| We've had a series of corrupt presidents engaging in corrupt activities. | ||
| And we... Like, the Founding Fathers didn't one day go, hey, that's tyranny! | ||
| We hereby declare! | ||
| And then all march to D.C. | ||
| Or, like, all march to their capitals. | ||
| It was 20 years of them complaining about it. | ||
| That's what is happening. | ||
| So I'm not saying HOT will go down, I'm saying, of course you act now. | ||
| And we'll do exactly what the Founding Fathers did. | ||
| We'll have meetings, we'll have hearings, we'll issue a petition to our government for redress of grievances, and we'll keep doing it. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Here's what I'll tell you. | ||
| The idea that a group of people get together and take up guns is an impossibility and lives in the world of fiction. | ||
| Doesn't exist. | ||
| The Continental Army already existed. | ||
| It had been around for decades. | ||
| There was mobilization. | ||
| Things started to escalate. | ||
| It's not reality to be like, the people of this country unite. | ||
| It's impossible. | ||
| It's not possible. | ||
| It's not reality. | ||
| These things are emergent phenomenons. | ||
| There is no reality in which People who just today are working their jobs and going and voting tomorrow, one day all go, I have a calling. | ||
| I must meet the Continental Congress with 10,000 other men to form an army. | ||
| Never happened. | ||
| Not once. | ||
| I think when the totalitarian technocrats put people in a matrix when they don't realize they're in a matrix, That's a sign that the system needs to be overthrown. | ||
| If they're gonna try and imprison people in their own minds, that would be, for me, like a stopgap. | ||
| I think the real threat to global stability, democracy, republicanism, and all of it is the technocratic takeover of our minds. | ||
| So we'll need some sort of technical solution, maybe, or resistance to it. | ||
| But anyway, man, thanks for calling in. | ||
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Yeah, no problem. | |
| Thanks for giving me the answer. | ||
| Keep doing what you're doing. | ||
| Appreciate it. | ||
| Thanks, dude. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Cheers. | ||
| Next up. | ||
| I can't totally hear your name. | ||
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Your name is H H Gregor. Oh, there you go. You found out how to see their name. Yeah | |
| I figured out took a little while. It's Gregor. You're with us. How are you? | ||
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Good. Can you guys hear me? Okay. Yes, I can sweet | |
| And I had to give you a second for this little stutter I got. | ||
| But my question isn't necessarily about anything super related to the content today, but I felt like it was a pretty important question based on, well, not last week's content, because Tim was kind of out in weeks prior. | ||
| The basis of my question is my mom. | ||
| She said that if Trump is a Republican nominee, she will either not vote or vote third party. | ||
| Tim, I know you're kind of In a similar vein, but the opposite, where if DeSantis is the nominee, you just won't vote for him. | ||
| My question kind of boils down to how split do you guys think the Republican Party is between Trump and DeSantis? | ||
| To be specific, will this primary battle push Trump and DeSantis voters too far away from each other? | ||
| to kind of come together for the Republican nominee, giving the Democrat nominee the upper hand. | ||
| You know, we kind of know this vote blue no matter who, like they can have a super tough primary, | ||
| but at the end of the day, they will all come together to vote | ||
| for whoever has the D next to their name. | ||
| We are very ideological now. | ||
| Like I said, at this point, if DeSantis doesn't disavow the deepfakes, I will vote third party if he's the nominee. | ||
| I'll vote Libertarian. | ||
| I shouldn't say third party. | ||
| I'll vote Libertarian. | ||
| They're prominent. | ||
| And they can use the polling numbers for the future. | ||
| They don't even have an actual person running yet. | ||
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Like David hasn't even announced if he is. | |
| We'll see, but I don't care. | ||
| I'll vote for Ian Crosland before I vote for Ron DeSantis. | ||
| I will vote for Seamus Coghlan before he gets old enough. | ||
| Dude, RFK Jr. | ||
| I'll vote for RFK Jr. | ||
| before I vote for DeSantis. | ||
| That guy's awesome. | ||
| And I'm not as big on RFK. | ||
| I cannot stand, for the life of me, listen. | ||
| First, let me say this. | ||
| The DeSantis supporters are the cringiest and most annoying people. | ||
| Not every single one of them, obviously. | ||
| Luke is a big DeSantis supporter. | ||
| But the Twitter DeSantis people just lie. | ||
| They are exactly like liberals. | ||
| I can't stand it. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| Trump has his diehards. | ||
| They can be annoying too. | ||
| But it's like, I say something like, Ron DeSantis should not make deepfakes. | ||
| So what do they do? | ||
| They post clips and videos and lie about what I said. | ||
| I'm like, okay, I hope you lose. | ||
| I hope he loses. | ||
| He deserves to lose. | ||
| Because if he can't get control of his people like that, but here's the issue. | ||
| Ain't no way I'm voting for DeSantis unless or until, and until, he disavows his campaign making fake images of Trump to try and win political power. | ||
| Look how long he took already. | ||
| I know, it's like an indication of how he's going to run something. | ||
| And Trump is, and I'm not, I've never been, like, Trump is the greatest guy I've ever voted for. | ||
| His foreign policy is the best we've ever seen in my generation. | ||
| And he's the most likely to fire people. | ||
| Other than that, I don't know. | ||
| What about Vivek? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I would vote for Vivek. | ||
| Vivek. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Vivek, Vivek. | ||
| Is he a serious candidate? | ||
| Because I really have thrown my weight behind him psychologically. | ||
| He's great. | ||
| He's getting to the early states. | ||
| The early states matter a lot. | ||
| And he's been to Iowa and New Hampshire. | ||
| I've heard a few. | ||
| My family lives in Iowa. | ||
| And they're seeing him all over the place. | ||
| So he's taking it very seriously. | ||
| We'll see what happens. | ||
| I'll vote for him. | ||
| I'll vote for him in the primary. | ||
| I think Trump's gonna win. | ||
| But if it's DeSantis, ain't not, nope, not gonna happen. | ||
| Don't care, don't know, I'm not playing this game. | ||
| You know, DeSantis has a bunch of good policy out of Florida when it comes to culture war issues, when it comes to parental rights and education, things like that, keeping kids away from these adult sex shows. | ||
| Obviously we care deeply about our culture. | ||
| But he's, dude, the deepfake thing was just like, as soon as it happened, it's like, | ||
| oh wow, you did that? | ||
| Okay, well I won't vote for you, unless you apologize and it's a vow. | ||
| And you're right, Ian, how long has it taken? | ||
| I don't even think he'll do it. | ||
| So you know what? | ||
| It's like a month or something stupid. | ||
| It's three weeks. | ||
| Right, beyond that, I will now, like if it gets to the, | ||
| I will be staunchly like, no to Santas. | ||
| None. | ||
| Can I talk, we're doing focus groups right now in the core four states. | ||
| Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin, and North Carolina. | ||
| The drop off that DeSantis has among men, male swing voters, is enormous. | ||
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Wow. | |
| And the margin that he gains with suburban women is not, it's marginal. | ||
| It's marginal. | ||
| It's so small. | ||
| Swing male voters have no respect for him, but they love Trump. | ||
| Like, these guys, they know that Trump is focused, they know he's going to go in there and blow. | ||
| So I just, I don't, I reject this whole notion that you nominate a guy like DeSantis because he's more electable. | ||
| I don't think that's true, especially after the media gets done with him. | ||
| I think you nominate the guy that's going to go in there and fire people and have a good foreign policy. | ||
| I think that's the much better criteria. | ||
| I would rather have Vivek. | ||
| Out of any of them. | ||
| But I don't know if he has the top... Maybe in a couple cycles he might actually make it. | ||
| And that'd be great. | ||
| But if he makes it, I'd vote for him. | ||
| DeSantis? | ||
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Nope. | |
| And so here's what's gonna happen. | ||
| The primary will end, Trump will likely win, and the DeSantis people will say, fuck Trump, and the Trump people will say, fuck DeSantis. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then everyone votes Gavin Newsom? | ||
| Fuck, I don't know. | ||
| Or Michelle Obama. | ||
| I'm over it. | ||
| I'm sick of eight years of, stop making me defend Trump, you fucking cocksucking liars. | ||
| The media lied about everything. | ||
| And it got to the point where I'm just like, The media has lied to me so much, I am screaming in rage and punching walls. | ||
| I am sick of these fucking disgusting people. | ||
| And then Ron DeSantis goes, I'm actually going to do the exact same thing! | ||
| And I fucking slap his table, fuck you! | ||
| Don't vote for Ron DeSantis. | ||
| He wants to play a game. | ||
| He wants to shill for these corporate neocons. | ||
| He's getting donors from these corporate neocons. | ||
| I'm like, well, you know, it's fine. | ||
| It is what it is. | ||
| He's got good policies. | ||
| And then he comes out and he goes, I'm going to do the exact same thing the corporate press has been doing that's been driving you all nuts because I'm one of them. | ||
| And I'm like, fuck off. | ||
| You're done. | ||
| You are done. | ||
| He was so good on the COVID policy, man. | ||
| He is inspirational. | ||
| He's fake news! | ||
| That's what he is! | ||
| So fuck it. | ||
| I'm not voting for someone who does that. | ||
| And Trump has PACs that do similar things. | ||
| It's annoying. | ||
| But those are like traditional smarmy politics I despise. | ||
| And for that, I will say it's gross. | ||
| But Trump at least still comes out and talks like off the cuff, just says things. | ||
| Is he perfect? | ||
| No. | ||
| Should we criticize him? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Does he say things that are stupid and gross? | ||
| He absolutely does. | ||
| I don't like it. | ||
| He's just the guy more likely to fire people. | ||
| Ron DeSantis did what the corporate press has been doing, which has been the most infuriating thing to me the entire time. | ||
| The spitting on my face and pissing on me and telling me it's raining. | ||
| And Ron DeSantis decided to do that too. | ||
| So all of that anger I've had for eight years of the corporate press lying and Ron DeSantis decided to come in right behind him and smack me in the face. | ||
| That pissed me off. | ||
| And then his followers started lying about what I said about it. | ||
| So I said, you know, fuck all you people. | ||
| I think it's interesting when you see someone do something that is what you would consider evil that your people you have been against in the past have done over and over and over and then someone you really care about does it once. | ||
| There's maybe a thing where you're like, I don't want to believe that they just did that. | ||
| But those guys printed bold-faced lies and misrepresentation of Donald Trump. | ||
| Fabricated the images. | ||
| It says that it's really him and it's a deepfake. | ||
| He used modern technology to obfuscate the truth from people. | ||
| to try and win political points. | ||
| That's a fucking dirty, dirty tactic. | ||
| That is not someone to be trusted. | ||
| Dude, it's like the corporate press took videos of Trump and then edited them to trick people. | ||
| Ron DeSantis fabricated fake images to smear him. | ||
| He was like, all that stuff you hate about the corporate press, I'm gonna do ten times worse. | ||
| So fuck it. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Not interested. | ||
| It's also lazy. | ||
| It's either lazy or it's stupid or it's stupid, stupid, lazy, stupid, lazy, stupidity. | ||
| It's, I think it's lazy stupidity. | ||
| They don't realize the damage they've done and they're, they're, they're not quite intelligent enough to, to allow themselves to understand that they fucked up big time by twisting this technology and doing that big, big time. | ||
| If they were simple for me, dude. | ||
| They lie about Trump, I get mad. | ||
| They lie about him again, I get mad. | ||
| I'm hanging out with my friends in LA, and they're like, did you hear Trump said this? | ||
| And I'm like, well, he didn't actually say that. | ||
| And they're like, yeah, he did. | ||
| And I'm like, no, let me pull the video. | ||
| Here's what he actually said. | ||
| Why am I in this position? | ||
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Geez. | |
| Fuck you, Ron DeSantis. | ||
| In the age of deepfakes, it's gonna keep happening. | ||
| It's like, now I gotta go to people and they're being like, Trump was hugging and kissing Fauci. | ||
| And people are like, you actually believe that was real? | ||
| No, I think he's lying to people because he's a piece of shit. | ||
| And he won't condemn, he won't fire anybody over it, he won't apologize for it, he won't say it was wrong. | ||
| His campaign manufactured fake images to trick people so he could steal political power. | ||
| Joe Biden launched his presidential campaign lying about what Donald Trump said in Charlottesville, about Charlottesville. | ||
| And Ron DeSantis is, at the start of his campaign, fabricating fake images to smear Trump when he didn't need to. | ||
| I'm not playing a game with these people. | ||
| Trump's people come out and they tweet stupid shit. | ||
| And they're like, what about this Trump supporter who tweeted something? | ||
| I said, Trump supporter? | ||
| That's not Trump's campaign. | ||
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Trump's campaign, Trump tweeted some dumb shit about DeSantis and insulted him. | |
| Is it stupid? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But it's just dumb shit. | ||
| Y'all took the time and effort to fake this shit, to hoax me, fucking Jussie Smollett DeSantis. | ||
| Fuck that. | ||
| I'm pissed about this, dude. | ||
| And I will not stop being pissed. | ||
| And then the DeSantis supporters tweeted me like, you're really gonna die on this hill? | ||
| Go fuck yourselves, dude. | ||
| You're not earning yourselves any favors by doubling down on Smollett DeSantis. | ||
| On Jussie DeSantis. | ||
| That's what I'm calling from now on. | ||
| Jussie DeSantis. | ||
| You know, making fake stories up about Trump kissing Fauci. | ||
| Anyway, let's talk about something else. | ||
| I feel like I just witnessed history. | ||
| Like, this is gonna be all over Twitter tomorrow. | ||
| Oh, I've done this. | ||
| I've ranted about this for a month. | ||
| No, I know! | ||
| I know, but... Jussie DeSantis! | ||
| Deepfake DeSantis! | ||
| I'm pissed. | ||
| I'm with you. | ||
| What I'm trying to do is not, I'm thinking like I'm so angry about it that I want to make sure I don't overreact. | ||
| Because I still haven't met the guy and I love what he did with the COVID Florida policy. | ||
| Like he stood up to big government. | ||
| That's a big deal. | ||
| If we can get someone that can stand up to the global economic order and is like, we're doing America the way America is intended. | ||
| That would be really cool, but I don't like the deception. | ||
| I mean, I know that the Deceptor-in-Chief has to play spy games. | ||
| He's moving the troops around. | ||
| His main goal is to dominate the global military. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| I said he did a terrible job moving the troops around. | ||
| Remember Afghanistan was Joe Biden. | ||
| Yeah, absolute abysmal work. | ||
| But like, secrecy is a big part of the job, and tricking people is a big part of the job. | ||
| I get that. | ||
| But don't lie to me to get elected. | ||
| Just don't do it to my face and don't manipulate deepfakes to get elected either. | ||
| It's just, it's gross. | ||
| It's 2023, man. | ||
| We need to be the beacon that is raising the light on the danger of these technologies, not twisting people with them. | ||
| It's only going to get worse when it comes to deepfakes and stuff like that. | ||
| This is just the very tip of the iceberg for what this election cycle is going to be like. | ||
| Dude, get ready for your mom or your dad to get a phone call from someone that sounds like you asking them to send money to something. | ||
| Call your parents and let them know if someone calls you. | ||
| I am with the FBI. | ||
| A woman got a call from her daughter saying that she'd been kidnapped and they're holding her for ransom, but it was an AI deepfake. | ||
| Okay, and that's... But there you go! | ||
| I think we... I hope that answered your question. | ||
| Maybe it didn't, but I went off, but we do gotta get more callers in, so thanks for calling. | ||
| That was awesome, thank you. | ||
| Alright, I'm just gonna throw you on mute then. | ||
| Krondors, how are you? | ||
| You are with us now. | ||
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unidentified
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Hey guys, good evening. | |
| Geez, I want to ask my question, but I'm a little scared after that. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Don't worry, it's over the internet. | ||
| Tim's not coming to your house. | ||
| Yeah, I'm going to bed afterwards. | ||
| I'm watching Justice League or something. | ||
|
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So my question is, so I'm trying to get some perspective here. | |
| Assuming that the left's intention with the whole grooming and pride and trannying of the kids isn't malicious in its nature, just giving them the benefit of the doubt, I'm trying to figure out what's the goal of this? | ||
| What are they trying to get out of this in 10, 20 years? | ||
| Not on the individual basis, like the person who's, you know, become a dependent on the state or they've destroyed their lives, but what is the left's, like, what do they think is the benefit of all this for the sake of the parties, for the sake of their movement in a generation from now? | ||
| I think that they want to feel on an individual level, not alone. | ||
| And they feel like the more people that they can get through to and make trans early on, be like, Oh, if I'd known when I was nine, then I wouldn't have had to go through this hell. | ||
| And then because they're lonely people, they don't feel right in their own body. | ||
| So they're trying to make things right. | ||
| And a lot of that is if I can change you, then I'll be better off because I'll have someone to connect with. | ||
| That's my guess altruistically. | ||
| But I think a lot of people do have political motives as well. | ||
| It's a religion. | ||
| They want to perfect Earth. | ||
| They want to make Utopia on Earth. | ||
| It's all a religion. | ||
| I just think it's fire. | ||
| What does fire want? | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| It just consumes. | ||
| It's a chemical reaction, a chain reaction, that consumes and destroys and burns and releases energy. | ||
| That's all they're doing. | ||
| Nothing they do makes sense. | ||
| It's an amalgam of disparate ideologies from the past and future that don't make sense and contradict each other. | ||
| And they do shit. | ||
| Like you were saying earlier, Phil, Emma was just saying the opposite of whatever I was saying. | ||
| They're nonsense people. | ||
| It's just fire. | ||
| It's just destruction. | ||
| It's chaos. | ||
| Chaos, yeah. | ||
| That's all it is. | ||
| Emma made me laugh. | ||
| Sorry, go ahead. | ||
| No, it's just chaos. | ||
| That's all it is. | ||
| Phil loves Emma. | ||
| No. | ||
| Phil and Emma on a show together. | ||
| Don't say those kind of things. | ||
| You guys are both libertarian. | ||
| But this is the thing, right? | ||
| So the reason why I'm like, Sam Seder will never come on this show is because... Sam's chomping to come on now. | ||
| Well yeah, but it's because he's WWE. | ||
| He wants the macho man Randy Savage. | ||
| Hell yes. | ||
| But we try to have serious conversations. | ||
| So then when she was like, why does your show appeal to neo-nazis? | ||
| It's like, this is the thing with these people. | ||
| Like, don't fucking look, man. | ||
| And they know Sam's blacklisted. | ||
| It's because they're scared of him. | ||
| No, it's because they hate him. | ||
| Because he's a bad human being. | ||
| He's an evil person. | ||
| He's the banality of evil, though. | ||
| He's the kind of guy who will, like, see, like, they're the kind of people that will see someone trying to, like, rape a child, and then they'll defend it because it's funny. | ||
| To them. | ||
| Like what Emma was doing with defending kids, you know, instructing kids on use of Grindr. | ||
| She will defend it because they want to make money and they think it's funny. | ||
| That's evil. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| It's not like the same kind of evil as a demon raping a child. | ||
| It's the kind of evil of a guy standing in front of you while a demon is raping a child and you're like, make it stop. | ||
| And they're like, what's wrong with you? | ||
| Why are you a Nazi? | ||
| And it's just like, dude, if y'all want to hold it, like, Sure, you can argue that Emma's not a pedophile herself, but she's a pedophile advocate. | ||
| Yeah, I would never say. | ||
| I mean, that's a bold claim. | ||
| I think that's actually liable to call someone a pedophile. | ||
| It's not? | ||
| It isn't. | ||
| Not if they go on your show and say that they think children should be using Grindr. | ||
| You're then allowed to call them a pedophile. | ||
| You can't arbitrarily call someone a pedophile. | ||
| That would be defamation, per se. | ||
| But she didn't say little kids should have Grindr. | ||
| She said she supported it. | ||
| She said it was a very good book, and she doesn't oppose the censorship of it. | ||
| And I said, why does a 10-year-old need Grindr? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So, defamation per se would be if you arbitrarily accuse someone of being a pedophile. | ||
| If she comes on here and defends giving children instruction using Grindr, so I say I think you're a pedophile, that's not defamation. | ||
| That's just an opinion statement. | ||
| However, I think it is fair to say that she's a pedophile advocate. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because I, you know, because we try to be reasonable. | ||
| And I don't know if she's just saying the opposite of whatever it is we say, like Phil was pointing out. | ||
| In that case, whether it's intentional or not, she's an advocate for pedophilia. | ||
| You look at the way that people behaved about Trump. | ||
| It was like it was just whatever Trump says, they were against it. | ||
| And it didn't matter if it was something that was positive or negative, it was just, negative Trump equals good. | ||
| That was the calculation in their head. | ||
| And that's exactly what Emma was doing yesterday. | ||
| Negative Tim equals good. | ||
| If Tim says it, and I push back on it, then it's okay. | ||
| Like, even when she brought up Medicare for All and I said I was in favor of universal basic healthcare, she tried to put pressure on that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is like, shut the fuck up. | ||
| Idiot. | ||
| I asked her, what's my stance on abortion? | ||
| She goes, I don't know. | ||
| No, I do. | ||
| I have a friend of mine that I'm always going to be friends with this guy because he's a he's genuinely a good dude, but he is a left leaning guy. | ||
| And there are times he doesn't like he doesn't like Tim Kaft and he gets frustrated with the things that Tim say. | ||
| And there are times when I'll say something and he pushes back just because I'm on the podcast here and because he has to Perform for his left-leaning friends that he is pushing back even though he's friendly with Phil He's pushing back on Phil and it's like, you know, I'm not gonna dump on the guy Like I said, cuz he is a good dude and stuff but at the same time it's like he feels like it's necessary when it came to Emma Emma doesn't have any you know, there's no respect for Tim or friendly Charitable feelings towards Tim. | ||
| So she's just all-in about pushing back on whatever he says just Yeah, anyway, did that address the question? | ||
| Because we are running late. | ||
| We should get to the last caller. | ||
|
unidentified
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Yes. | |
| Yeah, it answered the question. | ||
| Just one more thing I just wanted to ask Ian. | ||
| If he's ever seen that thing, that movie called Gamer from like, I think 2009 or 2008, kind of your discussion tonight just brought up that whole movie because it's like people controlling other people and just, you know, going on like a A fetish dream of enacting all their sick fantasies. | ||
| Have you ever seen that movie? | ||
| I watched, we had it on in the background at Tim's jersey house a few years ago while we were playing cards or something. | ||
| You should watch it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he goes into like a VR, a virtual reality. | ||
| He's a criminal. | ||
| He has to fight to get out or something. | ||
| And you get a pardon if you win. | ||
| I remember this movie. | ||
| It's a Call of Duty game. | ||
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Yeah, it's like you're controlling another live human being, but it's the other parts of the movie that I think are just more interesting. | |
| It's just people going on and just being sick and disgusting in public through someone else as an avatar. | ||
| I feel like that's where we're going. | ||
| That's happening right now. | ||
| We people but it hasn't but I hear what you're saying. | ||
| Yeah, so we got so we're Let's let's move on to the next call. | ||
| I want to see who is this. | ||
| What is this name? | ||
| I can't see the name of Russell someone said watch one piece Tim. | ||
| I can't I've tried what I have tried to watch one piece so many times I can't do it so much filler dude one piece never-ending filler. | ||
| It's like the definition. | ||
| It's so boring yeah, I'm like And I love anime! | ||
| And I've watched, I read every Naruto manga every week when it came out. | ||
| It was like a 10-year thing. | ||
| And everyone's like, you gotta see One Piece. | ||
| And I'm like, alright, I'll try. | ||
| And I play it and I'm like, this is so boring. | ||
| And so I'm like, I'll skip an episode. | ||
| It's worse! | ||
| And I skip an episode and I'm like, I don't, I don't. | ||
| I'm like, let me just jump into a mid-season episode. | ||
| Boring. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So boring. | ||
| Not for me. | ||
| I'm not a One Piece guy. | ||
|
unidentified
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I don't know. | |
| I don't get it. | ||
| I know it's popular though. | ||
| Yeah, it is extremely popular. | ||
| Next up, Russell. | ||
| What's good? | ||
|
unidentified
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Hey guys, thanks for taking my call. | |
| I agree, Tim. | ||
| One piece. | ||
| Awful. | ||
| My question is, so pack mentalities are observable in evolution through other creatures. | ||
| It would be to say that our social norms, i.e. | ||
| family, religion, all of that, from an evolutionary standpoint, would have also evolved with us. | ||
| So since we're getting rid of... we've basically broken evolution. | ||
| Do you think that's what's causing all of the problems? | ||
| Is that we've just kind of ignored our evolutionary... | ||
| Programming? | ||
| We haven't broken evolution. | ||
| Are you, are you, just to clarify, are you saying, like, in the sense that we've, like, gotten rid of natural selection and we're artificially selecting by allowing, like, is that what you mean by broken evolution? | ||
| Just to flesh it out. | ||
|
unidentified
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Um, thanks for trying to clarify. | |
| Uh, not, not the broken evolution in the context that we keep the weakest alive, but our social norms for the most part, like having a religion, having some kind of structured society, being a pack animal, as humans are, We're now kind of going off the rails and going away from that. | ||
| Say again? | ||
|
unidentified
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Oh, sorry. | |
| Individualism? | ||
| Say again? Towards like individualism, no longer dividing labor? I'm just trying to understand. I'm sorry. | ||
|
unidentified
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Sorry, I guess I'm a little nervous. | |
| So have humans disrupted their evolution by doing away with naturally developed societal norms | ||
| that have arguably evolved to increase our likelihood of survival? | ||
| So, because Kim talks about how these, you know, people are basically removing themselves from the gene pool, they're sterilizing their children, and all of our societal norms would have evolved with us for our survival, because good norms stay, bad norms fall away, just like So it's just a wave. | ||
| It's a pendulum swing. | ||
| Evolution is still functioning, evolution is not broken, and these people who have broken social norms will eradicate themselves and they're demanding the right to do so, and then the future will pendulum swing back into order. | ||
| And the norm, it used to be we would get together, huddle in groups, 60 humans, we'd come together, we'd build a little village, and we'd all live together, and that would be our social community. | ||
| And now it's online, so you get followers and clicks and likes, and there's this like social reinforcement from having a huge following online, but you might just sit in your house 24-7, not even go outside for 90 days straight. | ||
| But you're a rich person with tons of what you think of as friends that aren't actually really friends even though they're called friends online. | ||
| So the norm is now dictated by social media networks. | ||
| They'll tell you what you're supposed to think is normal by showing you this algorithmic trash. | ||
| But that might, like what Tim is saying, cause people to go insane, self-destructive, because it's not a real, like it's a faux norm. | ||
| Of course, norms are kind of propagated by the leaders of societies. | ||
| There might be like a reset, a great reset of the human consciousness where we get out off the machine. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| Yeah, like it's... | ||
| Uh, but I'm talking about like resetting the machine itself, like solar flare type of like, uh, and then, you know, we redevelop our, our tribal norms again and come back together. | ||
| And the question exactly is what was the, the, the hinge of your question is what was, uh, the problem part of it? | ||
|
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Well, Trying to word this a little better, my apologies, um, is the reason that we're having all the problems that we're having now because we're turning away from our evolved norms, like with no-fault divorce, breaking up the nuclear family, with, you know, hormonal birth controls and all of that, and with the removal of religion, and thus allowing for the non-theistic religion of wokeism. | |
| Because humans arguably have to have some kind of religion, maybe not as an individual, but as a collective. | ||
| And when they don't have one, they create new ones to fill the void. | ||
| It was just kind of a thought experiment I've been going on of, have we, because we are sentient, broken evolution? | ||
| Because we can kind of say, well, we'll let the weak survive or screw it. | ||
| We're smart enough to cheat. | ||
| It's contributing to it. | ||
| The cause is... Yeah, probably. | ||
| I think the whole no-fault divorce, breaking up the family, was an intentional part of destabilizing the American consciousness. | ||
| It might be, like, just like a part of the process, too. | ||
| Like, we're evolving into, like, homo techno or something, where we're gonna be these cyborg creatures. | ||
| Or some of us will, and then the other ones will just be slave servitude. | ||
| Uh, damn. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know if I have a genuine answer to that question, to be honest. | ||
| I don't know exactly what's causing it. | ||
| But I'm sure that destabilizing the family is a huge part of it. | ||
| You know, if you can't talk to your parents, you gotta look somewhere else for advice. | ||
| And then, where else other than online? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
|
unidentified
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Uh... Yeah. | |
| That's probably got a... That's a question that could probably handle, like, a two-hour answer. | ||
| Yeah, it's a big one. | ||
|
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I was thinking about making, like, a... | |
| Yeah, do it. | ||
| Go for it! | ||
| on like a bunch of YouTubes or rumbles about it and seeing what the world thought, but | ||
| I wanted your guys' opinion first. | ||
| Yeah, do it. | ||
| Go for it! | ||
| Yeah, just gotta do it. | ||
|
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Thanks, guys. | |
| Love the show. | ||
| Long time lurker. | ||
| First time caller. | ||
| Thanks for calling in. | ||
| Have a good one. | ||
| Appreciate it, man. | ||
|
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Y'all have a good one. | |
| You too, man. | ||
| Likewise. | ||
| There's a weird thing going on with Rumble that I was just looking at where it's like, not only is it choppy, but it actually stops. | ||
| It just stops where it is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
|
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And then you have to click to refresh to bring it back to the... Thanks for sticking with us, guys. | |
| Jeez. | ||
| You know, it is what it is. | ||
| Look, we use Rumble because we believe in Rumble. | ||
| We support Rumble, right? | ||
| Our videos are on Rumble. | ||
| The only thing we don't do on Rumble is the live show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But we want Rumble to win for obvious reasons, so... Yeah. | ||
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The reason we don't is because we have 62% drop frames, which is, like, crazy. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Come on, guys. | ||
| That's over half. | ||
|
unidentified
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Yep. | |
| I know Rumble can do it. | ||
| We've had fine shows in the past, but... Yeah. | ||
| Eh, things will happen. | ||
| Electronicaosmosis thinks that... Electronicaosmosis agrees with you that it is the celebration of a perceived victory over Christianity. | ||
| Let's carry that into a future episode. | ||
| I gotta order some pizza. | ||
|
unidentified
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Oh yeah. | |
| Anyway, thanks for hanging out, everybody. | ||
| It's been a blast. | ||
| I'm back! | ||
| My voice is still a little scratchy, you can tell, but it's okay. | ||
| It's getting there. | ||
| I mostly just lost my voice last week. | ||
| It sucks. | ||
| I'm, like, sitting around, like, what do I do? | ||
| So I did some other work, you know, administrative stuff. | ||
| But thanks for hanging out. | ||
| Terry, thanks for hanging out. | ||
| It's been a blast. | ||
| Yeah, thanks for having me. | ||
| This is great. | ||
| And for all of you who are members, check out the documentary we did, Game of Money, in the documentary section. | ||
| Really excited for that. | ||
| And then we have The Infringed. | ||
| I believe we're calling it infringed. | ||
| The gun control documentary with Lauren Southern coming out in a couple in a week or two and like actually in like a week and a half. |
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