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March 14, 2023 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - DeSantis REVOKES Booze License From Hyatt For Hosting Drag Show For Kids w/Jim Hanson
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tim pool
So Ron DeSantis has revoked the liquor license of the Hyatt Regency in Miami.
for hosting a drag show in which children were present.
This is an adult performance, adult entertainment, and kids were there.
And they were warned if they let kids in, they would lose their liquor license.
Now, I see a lot of people celebrating this, and it is big news, but my attitude is kind of like, that's it?
So what, you're saying the next time they do it, they just won't be drunk?
Okay, well, at least it's something.
But I'm of the mind that people who break the law, because they actually cited statute that they were in violation of, I think if you break the law, you should be arrested and charged.
I'm not saying that a person who jaywalks should be arrested and charged and sent to prison for a million years.
You might get a citation, depending on the scale of the crime.
But we're talking about people who willfully violated the law, were warned they were violating
the law, and then decided to have an adult performance for children.
The exhibits presented by Ron DeSantis are really messed up.
Simply put, really messed up.
Like showing actual, let's just call it abuse of a child in this document.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Jim Hanson.
jim hanson
Hey, brother.
Good to be with you.
tim pool
Absolutely.
Who are you?
What do you do?
jim hanson
I run a company called WorldStrat that does information operations to push the envelope on the narratives that I like.
tim pool
Right on, simply put.
All right.
jim hanson
I also got a book.
tim pool
Oh, a book, huh?
jim hanson
Your favorite topic, Get Based.
tim pool
Well, all right.
jim hanson
Looking cool.
tim pool
We'll do our best.
jim hanson
Try.
You already do it, brother.
tim pool
All right, we got Phil Labonte hanging out.
phil labonte
How you doing?
Phil Labonte, lead singer for All That Remains, anti-communist, counter-revolutionary.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.
unidentified
I'm a writer for TimCast.com.
And I am Surge.com.
Ready to do it.
tim pool
Let's jump into this first story!
I love this one.
I chose The New Republic as our principal source for this story because it's funny.
It got a picture of Ron DeSantis right here and then it says, Ron DeSantis is now attacking the Hyatt Regency because it hosted a drag show.
The Florida governor has been waging a war on drag and on LGBTQ people in his state.
They say Florida Governor Ron DeSantis moved Tuesday to strip the Hyatt Regency of its liquor license for allegedly allowing minors to attend a Christmastime drag show.
I love how they do that.
Allegedly.
There's pictures of children there.
There's video of a drag queen with fake breasts shoving them into the face of a child.
There's children at this show.
hannah claire brimelow
Allegedly.
tim pool
Allegedly.
And they say he's cracking down on LGBTQ rights.
The crazy thing is, these people, by any stretch of the imagination, must be pedophiles.
Because there's no reason why they would lie about what DeSantis actually did, unless they were pedophiles.
So is Ron DeSantis going after LGBTQ people?
No.
He explicitly said, if you have minors at an adult entertainment show, you will lose your liquor license.
He didn't even threaten them with arrest.
I'm gonna go one step further and say right now, Ron DeSantis, arrest these people.
I would like to see state police go to the Hyatt Regency, Walk up to the manager, confirm were you the manager on the night of December, I think it was 27th or something, 2022 during the performance of the drag show in which children were present.
Yes, place your hands behind your back.
You are under arrest and we're going to have you register as a sex offender because you facilitated the whole thing.
Then find the employees who helped facilitate this and they get charges as well for aiding and abetting a sex show in which children were present.
jim hanson
You're doing parents too?
hannah claire brimelow
What about the performers?
tim pool
Oh, absolutely, absolutely.
The thing is, he's targeting the Hyatt Regency, so I'm speaking in the context of the Hyatt Regency.
There's an interesting question about the performers.
They're not the ones who let in the children.
unidentified
But we'll see.
jim hanson
If you see a child in front of you, you go walk up on them and create a sex act in front of them, I think they're culpable too.
tim pool
Absolutely.
So those people, but I'm not sure they're residents of the state, they may have been passing through, in which case, good luck getting federal charges, but if they ever step foot back in, there should be an arrest.
Here's what really bothers me about this story, is that there's photos of this, and I don't want to show all the photos, I think YouTube might get us in trouble if I show you, like right here, down at the bottom of the screen, Uh, why can't I see it on the... That's weird.
Oh, I guess the mouse doesn't appear.
Normally it does.
Well, on the bottom of the screen, there's a picture of a drag queen shoving their chest into a child's face.
And, uh, we just, you know, try and move away from that one because I don't think we can actually show that.
What bothers me is that Ron DeSantis only is taking away their liquor license.
So the response is, if you host a sex show where you invite children, we'll take away your ability to sell beer.
jim hanson
Don't you think that he's kind of baiting them?
I think, okay, you take their liquor license, you dare them to do it again, and the second time, you send the SWAT team, you frog march them out in chains, and you alert the media.
tim pool
Why the second time?
jim hanson
Because the government never wants to jump in the first time with everything.
They never throw everything at it the first time.
tim pool
I remember a story about a guy who put grow lights in an empty house and then a bunch of DEA agents stormed into the building only to find nothing was in it and he was live streaming a sting operation.
And his point was that they were going to come in with no warrant to a house that did nothing wrong, yet right now we're supposed to cheer for Ron DeSantis.
And he's like, ha, I took away their liquor license.
Now when they have sex shows for children, they'll have to be sober.
Am I supposed to be happy about that?
jim hanson
I guess a little bit.
I'll take baby steps rather than no steps.
We've done nothing up to this point.
You know, we haven't even stopped them from doing anything.
So at least this take away their revenue stream.
You're costing them money.
Right.
And if it's the if the threat is the next time they will get cuffed and stuffed.
I'd like to see it.
tim pool
I doubt it.
Someone's got it.
Okay, we'll see.
This is the Overton window being shifted.
First, they do literal nothing, then people complain and they say, we'll take away their
liquor license.
They can still operate.
They can still sell, you know, shows at their event center.
They can still have people come into the restaurant, order food.
You can still rent rooms at the Hyatt.
No worries.
jim hanson
I'm shouting out right now to my friends in Miami who know the DeSantis crew, let's send in a SWAT team.
tim pool
Why should the Hyatt Regency be concerned about their liquor license when their principal business is selling hotel rooms?
hannah claire brimelow
But if they operate a food and beverage business, liquor tends to be one of the highest.
That's the high margin.
I mean, I think what's happening is they're trying to scare the Hyatt Regency into not accepting a contract from this group anymore.
And that'll just send them to another venue, which then I guess will continue to chase them.
It doesn't seem like the most effective strategy to stopping this.
tim pool
You guys know that we've been to Congress now a couple times.
They have a subway.
In the, uh, which building were we in?
I don't know.
There's a subway.
Imagine if a member of Congress did something illegal, so they went and said, we're not gonna let that subway operate anymore.
That'll show these corrupt members of Congress.
They're gonna be like, okay, I'll go across the street to get subway.
So if you're staying at the Hyatt Regency, you just get drunk across the street.
You rent your room, their principal business is completely unaffected.
I gotta say, look, I get it.
Some action is good to try and stop the Overton window shift that's allowing this grooming that's happening.
But all they're really doing, it seems to me, is throwing red meat at people who are upset about this and saying, cheer for the nothing that I have done.
I have done nothing at all to stop this.
Quite nothing.
I have hurt the bottom line of one Hyatt location by 7%.
If that, I'm willing to bet alcohol comprises a fraction of a percentage of their revenue.
They don't care.
phil labonte
The right does nothing.
tim pool
Yeah, there you go.
phil labonte
Period.
They never do.
It's all for show.
They are just as interested in virtue signaling as anyone else.
If this is considered action, then the left has nothing to fear from the right.
unidentified
Agreed.
hannah claire brimelow
I just want to know more about Murray and Peter who presented the Drag Queen Christmas.
I want to know what the production company is doing because they're probably operating... I mean, typically hotels bid for contracts and then whichever one works out a deal with the organization that wants to book the space.
You know, moves forward with contracts.
So, who else considered, who else tried to get this Drag Queen Story Show?
If we can't have it at the Hyatt, where is it going now?
I think that's what bothers me the most.
Like, yes, it's not enough of an action from DeSantis, but partially because it keeps the head on the snake.
We're not really stopping it from just migrating somewhere else across town.
jim hanson
Let's get citizens given tips for every drag show coming up and dare DeSantis not to react to the next one.
tim pool
I don't care if adults want to have a drag show.
If they want to do burlesque, if they want to do go-go dancing, if they want scantily clad men and women standing, you know, swinging around on poles, that's fine.
Just no kids.
phil labonte
If the right wants to do something about it, they should be putting the performers that are performing for children in jail.
unidentified
No.
That's it.
tim pool
Rhonda Santas, if you really believed these people, if you really thought this was true,
would be, he'd have the DA issue arrest warrants for these individuals.
And upon their return to the state for any reason, they would immediately be arrested.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, I'm sure a bunch of them are local.
tim pool
It's not, it was a touring thing.
hannah claire brimelow
But I'm sure they invite local talent in.
Like, that's pretty normal.
tim pool
I'm confident that if he wanted to do something for free— For these shows, I think this was a 37-state touring show, so I'm not sure it was a local thing.
I think it was a touring— Are there any other states that have laws?
jim hanson
Has anybody else passed a law?
unidentified
Oh, Texas!
Texas has?
tim pool
No, no.
Texas had a drag show where they were presenting sex in front of children, and the police said, I refuse to get involved.
So it's like, look man, I understand that we're looking for hope where we can find it, and a lot of people, they don't want to be blackpilled, but if I'm supposed to cheer for Ron DeSantis for having done the bare minimum, literally the least he could possibly do about this, I guess it's better than the rest of the states that do literal nothing like Greg Abbott, but yeah, I'm just, Unenthused, not optimistic about where this is all going.
jim hanson
Well, shaming helps, so I'll stop public shaming on it tomorrow.
I think that's a fair point.
I would love to see, I mean, the video of a drag queen being hauled out of a bar in handcuffs would go a long way towards throwing a little gasoline on a fire.
tim pool
I honestly think the manager of the establishment that facilitated a sex show for children should be brought out wearing their nice little button-up shirt and tie with their pens in their pocket, being like, I don't understand why I'm being arrested!
I operate an establishment!
unidentified
I'm the normal one!
tim pool
And then as they're being brought out, the police can say, he operated a sex show for children, and they'll go, whoa!
phil labonte
Jail and make sure that the inmates that he shares a cell with or jail with, make sure they know.
tim pool
I don't care about any of that weird stuff, man.
Have him register as a sex offender.
jim hanson
See, that's a huge threat right there.
tim pool
But they're not doing anything!
jim hanson
No, but that's a great one.
That's a great tool right there.
If you operate a sex show.
Because it used to be, 10 years ago, 15 years ago, a drag show was dudes in ball gowns singing ABBA.
unidentified
Yes.
jim hanson
Right?
You know, now they're wearing g-strings and shoving their groins in kids' faces.
Fake genitals.
tim pool
Simulating birth and abortion, they said.
jim hanson
And that's just so different.
That's a completely different thing.
It's not burlesque.
It's not a drag show.
It's a perverted sex show.
tim pool
It's a kink show.
phil labonte
It's kink.
tim pool
They point out in the complaint that one of the videos played actually shows genitals.
It actually shows the nudity and things like that.
jim hanson
Which is crime, so let's, I'm with you dude.
I think the shit, let the shaming begin.
We all have voices, right?
unidentified
Let's make some noise.
phil labonte
Okay, so there's two things that I want to say.
First of all, I agree that stigma is not used enough nowadays.
Like, social shaming is used for basically for the wrong things, essentially, and there should be more shaming from people on the right, which speaks to Tim's point and Matt Walsh's point about being more aggressive I think is probably a better way to describe it, but they were saying be more mean.
But shaming is good and it's what you should use in place of legislation.
So I'm not a big fan of having, like I'm not a big fan of SWAT teams and stuff like that generally.
So I think that it's better to have society shame people and try to discourage behavior.
So I think that that's the spot that we should be at.
jim hanson
Let's go, if you're at a drag show, take the license plates, fill them out, drop them, then you're dropping names, dox them online.
tim pool
No, no, no.
Why not?
You can't say that, Chip!
But none of that weird Stasi-Soviet stuff.
We have laws on the books.
They cited the laws on the books, and they're doing nothing about it.
I don't care for this right-on-your-neighbor stuff.
We shouldn't have to.
We should have a society that enforces its own laws when those laws exist.
Instead, I get it.
You know, we got a super chat here.
Rocky says the point of pulling a liquor license is to show the smaller establishments that it's serious.
But let me pull up this next story.
There you go.
From the Postmillennial.
Woke New York Attorney General, Democrat lawmakers to host drag queen story event for families.
The event is set to feature drag performers reading to children.
So now you have, in New York, state sponsored drag shows for kids.
phil labonte
I can't get past the why do you demand that drag performers read to children?
tim pool
Well, you listen to James Lindsay, right?
Then you know the answer.
phil labonte
I do, yeah.
But the thing is, the average person should at least be asking the question, as opposed to saying, well, this is what I'm supposed to be doing, so all the Karens just decide to show up so that way they can get the kudos at the PTA meeting.
tim pool
In their academic paper, they wrote, the goal is to get glitter in the carpet that can never be removed.
Quite literally outlining, in their paper, Trans Pedagogy, how to groom children.
That's what they claim to be doing.
jim hanson
It's destruction of normal.
Once you do that, you open the door to nothing being better or worse than anything else.
So being trans, being non-binary, being a forest elf, whatever you think you are, is equally good to being a cishet person who has a family and makes babies.
And that destroys the ability for the culture to say anything is better than anything else.
It's all equally fine.
tim pool
And it's not.
People are saying, look, I don't want to act like Ron DeSantis pulling a liquor license from the Hyatt is literal nothing.
It's the bare minimum.
I'll take it.
I'm not mad that he did it.
Okay, I'm happy something is happening.
But you have in Florida them saying, you're a large establishment and we're gonna take away your liquor license even though your principal business is selling hotel rooms and doing large-scale events.
I suppose losing your liquor license for large-scale events can be painful.
Meanwhile, on the other side, New York is like, we're gonna state sponsor all this stuff.
Meanwhile, California is doing the same thing.
So if you think this is winning the culture war, you will lose, we will lose, and in 10 years you'll be wondering why your state of Florida is the capital of child drag shows.
jim hanson
Well, but isn't it also going to drive people to self-separate into tribes again?
Okay, if New York is where the state sponsors Drag Queen Story Hour and Florida, you at least are starting to stigmatize it and starting to create consequences for people who perpetrate it.
Then, guess what?
More people are going to leave, more taxpayers, more productive people are going to leave New York.
Which is good.
tim pool
Here's the thing.
We are a nation of weak men.
We have for too long have, we've gone from the classical liberal sense of live and let live into the do whatever you want for whatever reason leave me alone.
There's a big difference between live and let live and do whatever you want but leave me alone.
We used to have shared moral foundations and so our country was like look Go to your house, do your thing.
But then if they did things that were considered bad or destructive, the bigger picture, we would still be like either shunned or criminal charges, depending on the severity of the things they were doing.
So the point is like drug use and things like that.
But now we've gone so far to the anyone can do anything they want, the country's ripping in half, where you've got adult men putting on sex shows.
I mean, here, pull this up.
Pull it up.
Let me just show you the picture.
There is a drag queen with fake breasts and children were present.
There's videos of it.
And doing weird sex things at this show.
So, New York's gonna allow it.
And what's gonna happen is the men in New York are gonna say, I don't care.
You can do whatever you want.
jim hanson
And I think it's even worse.
You said, I want to do whatever I want.
Leave me alone.
It's not leave me alone.
It's celebrate my freakishness.
You know, now you have to actually have the kids, because you've got the kids participating in pride parades and carrying flags and doing all that.
unidentified
That's part of it.
jim hanson
So they're telling them, it's not just, if you want to teach kids what is good, what do you celebrate?
We celebrate Pride Month.
You know, so you've got an entire month where you're telling them, these people who are abnormal, I'm not saying they're bad people, but they're outside the norm of society, and they're doing things that may or may not be healthy.
And you're telling kids that's something to celebrate.
tim pool
You know what's funny?
Is that the rainbow is the symbol of God's covenant to man that he will never flood the earth again, and they decide to appropriate that.
jim hanson
I want it back.
tim pool
But it's also funny that they have pride celebrations, which of course is one of the seven deadly sins.
I want the flood back.
And so I wonder if a lot of it is intended to attack Religion and Christianity.
jim hanson
Because, like you said, James Lindsay is great at pointing out that it's praxis.
Alright, these are things they're doing purposely because they're attacking the things that are cohesive and hold a society together.
And they're purposely targeting the things like a nuclear family and the cis-het normality as something to be destroyed, and it's working.
phil labonte
Satisfied people do not revolt.
You don't get a revolution when you have a society full of people that are happy.
hannah claire brimelow
Drag Story Hour, the non-profit that's co-sponsoring the New York AGE Story Hour,
in their mission statement they have this line that says, we capture the imagination and play of gender fluidity in
childhood and give kids glamorous, positive, and unabashedly queer role models for the non-profit.
Like, they know why they are preaching to children and they're co-opting.
Childhood we see as innocent say, oh, well, actually children are gender fluid.
That's in their basic bio.
They assume that all children are gender fluid, which is weird.
That's not what I know.
jim hanson
It's abnormal.
And they get on TV, they get nothing but dad is an idiot, right?
Mom should run things and the gay couple is cooler.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
jim hanson
You know, so all of the things are now designed to push you towards one thing, and it's working, you know.
And the fact that we're at least having this conversation, the fact that there's at least a liquor license in jeopardy, and hopefully someone will be in handcuffs, is a step in the right direction.
But it is a baby step, and we need much bigger steps.
tim pool
How is it that we've gone from What do you think would have happened 40 years ago if something like this was done?
If they had an event like this with children?
What do you think the governments would have done?
jim hanson
I don't think the governments would have been involved because we still had culture then.
We still had a culture where parents would have been responsible and they would have shown up and whoever was doing that would have had a very sad day.
tim pool
So you think people in the community would show up and there would be a riot?
jim hanson
Yeah.
tim pool
So, baby steps?
I think you're mistaken.
This isn't baby steps.
This is total and complete surrender.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That's it.
The fact that we've gone from a society that says, we won't allow this, to a society that says, I guess I can pull your liquor license.
That means we've retreated and surrendered the fight completely.
And this is Ron DeSantis being like, I guess I'll do something, I don't know.
jim hanson
I don't want to believe that it's a surrender, but I agree with you that if it's a counterattack, it is far from... Let's put it this way.
tim pool
On a scale of 1 to 10, if 40 years of the reaction would have been a 10, going in, arresting people, shutting it down, news reporting it, angry parents screaming, how could you let this happen?
Today, we're not even at a 1.
We're off the scale.
The scale's gone.
jim hanson
We're gone.
We're at .5, .4 somewhere, and that's pathetic.
tim pool
And that means we have completely retreated from the fight, period.
And all that's left is one city in Florida that's done something about it, because even Texas won't.
jim hanson
Yeah.
tim pool
There you go.
hannah claire brimelow
That's it.
I mean, we're talking about shame.
I think it's interesting that parents won't shame each other for taking their kids to this show.
In fact, Phil's probably right.
They're like looking to score points at the next PTA meeting.
They're looking to say, well, look at this fun experience.
We're so, I don't know, open-minded, I guess.
Our kids being exposed to all kinds of things.
It's weird.
I think 40 years ago, we would have had more cultural pressure.
It wouldn't just be your neighbors being like, you're taking your kid where?
It would have been the grandparents.
It would have been the church.
It would have been everyone in alignment saying this is not something we do.
It's not just the government intervention, but it's the social intervention, which we don't have now.
phil labonte
Think about the incentive.
Think about the incentive.
Moms are incentivized to not make waves because it makes problems for their kids in school.
If you're a kid going to school and your mom and everyone around like okay so I know this is going to be sound awkward to or sound odd to some of the people sort of our viewers ears but like if you're a mom and you're anti-vax and everybody around you is is up to date and your kid isn't vaccinated Your kid is going to take endless amounts of crap at school.
Moms will do a lot of stuff and shut their mouths about a lot of things to make sure that their kids have a reasonable time at school.
And it's probably the wrong answer, but that's a significant portion of why these things tend to metastasize and spread the way they do.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, and you can understand why you wouldn't want to put the the pressure of the political fight on your third grader,
right?
phil labonte
Absolutely.
jim hanson
But you've got to move then.
All right, that's why tribalism and federalism are our friend.
There is no common ground right now.
Yes, we have retreated.
Yes, we have surrendered.
Yes, we now need to organize into communities of like-minded people who will not put up
with that crap.
And so I don't care.
I don't want to hear you job won't let you move.
I don't want to hear anything about it.
Move someplace or change your own community at the lowest level and at least fight back yourself.
And I think that some people are doing it.
hannah claire brimelow
I typically agree with you, but then I think even moving doesn't escape you from the internet, right?
So like there's a family vlog channel that's getting a lot of attention right now because they're talking about their child is transitioning and they're documenting taking it to the clinic and whatever it is and like, That means that even if you moved, if your child has access to the internet, this is still the alternative.
jim hanson
But if you're in a homeschool co-op and all the kids in that co-op are hearing from their parents that that's not how we do things.
phil labonte
How do you protect your kid from June?
unidentified
How do you protect your kid from the whole month?
hannah claire brimelow
It's coming and it's going to be- Or drive down your street and every restaurant has a pride flag on it.
phil labonte
Yeah, LGBT shoved right down your throat every June for, like, how do you protect your kid from that?
hannah claire brimelow
I'd like to hope that, like, it empowers parents today to be really open and honest about their values with their kids.
I think there are generations where parents didn't want to tell their kids too much and didn't want to seem like they were oppressing them or, you know, whatever else.
Like, I have a number of friends whose parents grew up really religious.
They, the parents then, didn't really bring them to church and now the kids crave that.
They crave more direction.
Like, I think in some ways we might see a redirection, but it is difficult to completely separate yourself from culture.
You have to have an answer for when your kid says, like, well, why does my friend go to this and we don't?
No matter what it is.
jim hanson
But it's, we have answers.
Our answers are better than theirs, right?
Their answer is, the more freakish it is, the better it is.
Celebrate the weird.
hannah claire brimelow
But they don't present it that way.
Their package is totally different.
jim hanson
But you can say that.
Obviously, it's a difficult thing.
But again, there's also counter-attacks going.
Look at the number of states now that are banning surgery on minors.
for any kind of transition.
They're banning hormones, they're banning the rest of that.
That's happening more places.
So there is, because of the success they've had in pushing that, more people have had to face the fact that that's going to happen to their kids and it's happening in their neighborhood and that's causing a backlash.
Now is it going to be a big enough backlash?
I hope so.
Not yet.
tim pool
Let's jump to an even more depressing story.
We got this from the Postmillennial.
Breaking Moody's Slash's outlook for U.S.
banking system to negative due to rapidly deteriorating operating environment, Moody's lowered its outlook on the American banking system from stable to negative.
The move comes just days after Silicon Valley Bank, the 16th largest in the nation, collapsed alongside a number of smaller financial institutions.
Quote, Okay, we get it.
They say it over and over again.
We've changed our negative from stable to negative.
According to CNBC, the downgrade could impact credit ratings and thus raise the cost of borrowing for financial institutions.
Oh boy!
That's going to make everything a whole lot worse.
So this morning, when trading opens up, all the banking stocks spiked and skyrocketed.
Some jumped something like 90 point swings.
You made a lot of money if you invested in them on the dip.
But it was so volatile that a bunch of trading halts were implemented because the upswing was also extreme and crazy.
So that just screams volatility.
I gotta wonder.
Where do we go from here?
Some people have predicted that...
You know, in 2008 it was March we saw the first hits, then by September it was total collapse.
We looking at the same thing here or gonna be different?
jim hanson
Well the question is trust.
The only reason that the dollar is the fiat currency of the world and we have been on top as long as we have and we can have 30 trillion dollars in debt is because people believe that the United States is unbreakable.
Well, it doesn't look unbreakable now, and that's the problem.
You know, that's been the issue.
You look at why crypto is being adapted, but not fast enough.
It's because how many people trust that everybody, because if everybody in that crypto game doesn't trust each other, It falls apart.
Well, we've been so trusted that people thought the US is just always going to be there, always going to be growing, always going to be fine.
And the second that trust is pierced, everything the crypto bros have been saying about why fiat currency is garbage becomes true.
Because it is a Ponzi scheme.
We owe more money than we'll ever make.
The only chance we have is to screw the Chinese and not pay them back.
tim pool
Well, there's no such thing as paying down the debt.
unidentified
No.
We can't!
tim pool
People don't understand that a large portion of the national debt is owed to itself, to its own people.
And it's always going to increase because the system itself is a Ponzi scheme where basically we borrow from ourselves in the future over and over and over again forever.
It works when you have all the guns.
That's why the US government doesn't like it when regular people start Ponzi schemes.
jim hanson
Well, and now the Chinese are looking at it.
They've wanted to flip the currency to their own for a long time.
tim pool
It's happening.
I think Saudi Arabia is doing it.
jim hanson
And look at what they did.
China is pushing us aside as the world's only superpower.
And it's happening because we look like punks.
You know, we've always been vulnerable, but we look strong.
Trump, crazy as he was, nobody wanted to mess with him.
Nobody wanted to take the consequences of what he would do.
Nobody's scared of Biden.
You know, the Iranians and the Saudis just signed a deal brokered by the Chinese.
So our major global enemy brokers a deal between the largest state sponsor of terrorism and a former ally of ours three years after we were making deals in the Middle East to bring Gulf Arab states and Israel together.
We have lost our place.
tim pool
What's the answer?
More international war?
More conflict?
More intervention?
jim hanson
That seems to be where the Biden administration wants to go.
They seem to be doing everything they can to push us into WWIII.
I don't know if it's because they think it'll help the defense stocks or if they just don't know how to control it.
tim pool
Because they want a unipolar world where the U.S. controls the reserve currency.
And if we lose that unipolar position and it becomes multipolar with China as it is,
then the U.S. doesn't have a chance.
dollar becomes worthless and the U.S.
manufactures nothing, so we become a poor nation overnight.
jim hanson
And the Chinese are globalists, just not the way that we talk about globalism.
They're globalists as in they want to control the globe.
And if we if we lose to them, and right now they're also they're going to broker a deal between the Russians and Ukrainians, I predict, in the next three to six months.
They're going to be the ones who make that deal, not us, because Biden and his crew can't stop pushing.
All right, they want that war because that's what makes them feel strong.
That's what they're doing, like you said, to maintain our position.
And they're incompetent at it.
That's the problem.
tim pool
If the U.S.
falls from the holder of the reserve currency, then the Yuan just becomes the reserve currency.
And then it's China.
jim hanson
And then we're screwed.
tim pool
I mean, so it really does feel in a lot of ways like...
I think Donald Trump understood this and his view of the world was the U.S.
will not be able to maintain this position.
China is growing too fast.
We need to shore up our borders.
We need to bring back manufacturing, build up our economy, and get ready.
Otherwise, it'll be a hard fall.
And the establishment uniparty deep state said, no, we just need to blow up more people and just keep dropping bombs until they learn they can't screw with us and the dollar is the reserve currency.
I think Trump was right.
They can't stop China's growth.
jim hanson
No, well, I don't know.
China may stop its own growth.
They're a bit of a Potemkin economy.
You know, they've got a lot of stuff behind the scenes that is ugly and I think they're not in a position to capitalize.
tim pool
Except their authoritarian structure allows them to rapidly shift priorities, steal any resource they want on a moment's notice.
It's much more difficult for the U.S., but the U.S.
still does do it.
It's not like the will of the people really matters to the U.S.
government for the most part.
jim hanson
Well, and the other thing that has been happening between the Uniparty and the globalists, you know, the World Economic Forum crew, is weakening the United States.
They want to weaken it enough to allow a global Counterpart to push up against the Chinese.
They think they can do it if the U.S.
is weak enough and somehow they spread that power across all of the component parts of like the G20.
Then you've got a global organization that can take on the Chinese and is better than them.
And the problem is, the Chinese could win before that happens.
Who's going to coalesce around that?
tim pool
Outside of all that, our banks are falling apart.
jim hanson
Which is not good.
tim pool
Yeah.
jim hanson
Alright, you want a good prediction?
unidentified
Sure.
jim hanson
So, a hundred years ago, there was a Great Depression.
What started it?
Well, stocks crashed, there were runs on banks, right?
Right?
So everything was really bad.
Then there was possibility of a world war coming right after that, wasn't there?
Don't we have kind of a war?
tim pool
No, it was just after World War I. Yeah!
jim hanson
So we'd finished, one, the war to end all wars, and then all of a sudden we have a depression, and then, oh, we need another world war, right?
So now we've got a world war brewing.
So I'm saying all we got to do is ride that... Pandemic, too!
How about that?
Pandemic.
We didn't have that back then, but you had the Spanish flu.
We had the Spanish flu and other things.
So you got all the same things that took everybody down.
But you know what?
Here's what you got to remember.
The greatest period of prosperity was right after Second World War.
So all we gotta do is ride out the next 20 years and we'll be fine.
tim pool
25 or so, and then it'll be a few years after that.
One of the things that helped bolster the U.S.
economy was the complete destruction of the manufacturing bases in the countries that were at war.
Japan was wiped out, and much of Europe was wiped out, so if you needed something made, it was American.
jim hanson
Well, here's the thing.
Maybe we need to bait China and Russia.
The problem is China and Russia are allies now.
You got the Dragon Bear Alliance.
And so the odds of them getting into a fight and destroying their manufacturing capability is slim.
So we're not going to get that bonus.
tim pool
We need to take Trump's advice.
We need to protect our borders.
We need to start manufacturing.
We need to start becoming more self-sufficient.
Because I think the long fall is coming.
Imagine what it would be like if Donald Trump was president for the past two years.
You would have more manufacturing.
You'd have a stronger U.S.
economy.
You'd have lower inflation.
You'd have less war.
You'd have no war in Ukraine.
I mean, it just sounds really nice, doesn't it?
phil labonte
I think that's probably reasonable to assume that there wouldn't be a war in Ukraine.
I'm not so sure about the other stuff because Donald Trump was spending, was printing money just as fast as Biden was.
We'd have had a lot of the same issues.
Maybe we get out of it... We didn't.
Pardon me?
tim pool
We didn't.
The pandemic is a weird scenario.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
That goes from 2020 into 2021.
I'm not going to blame either Biden or Trump for the weirdness, but I can say the moment Biden gets into office and signs all these executive orders, inflation just shoots straight up and wages go straight down.
I really don't think Donald Trump secretly planned a policy to execute the moment or within like three weeks of Biden becoming president.
I think Biden signed a bunch of executive orders and nuked everything.
phil labonte
There is an amount of truth to that.
The executive orders that Biden signed when he first got into office, there's a lot of regulations that he reinstated and stuff.
But still, the main factors that led to the inflation and stuff, I mean, Donald Trump was talking about doing more stimulus at the end of his presidency and stuff, so I don't see a significant difference economically.
I think that we're probably in the same place, whether it be Biden or Trump.
But as for international stuff, like foreign relations and stuff, I think the world was better off with Donald Trump than with Not a chance.
jim hanson
And we didn't see any of the tyrants acting up.
And all of a sudden Biden's in and everybody knows they can roll over his team.
They show us, oh, let's do Afghanistan.
That's not just that.
That went swimmingly.
tim pool
Everybody knew that Donald Trump's incentive was, I want America to be a nice place for
Americans.
And they said, okay.
So Russia's like, well, I'm not going to need to invade if the U.S.
isn't pushing for NATO expansion anymore.
And then with the way they frame it in the corporate press here is Donald Trump was doing Putin's bidding.
unidentified
Why?
tim pool
Because his bidding was he didn't want a NATO country bordering, like every border country to be a NATO country?
jim hanson
That was one of the great missed opportunities was we could have made a frenemy out of Russia, because they needed it.
They didn't have China yet.
Now we screwed that up.
Okay, we made an enemy out of what was an enemy.
Let's be clear.
Putin was always going to be an enemy, but you can make deals with enemies.
Now he's making a deal with our actual enemy, who's actually capable of taking us on on the global stage.
And we're on the sidelines.
You know, it's horrifying.
tim pool
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
Sometimes I feel like the American media treats Russia so strangely, like, they didn't want an expansion of an alliance that would attack them against their back door, and for some reason we present them as like, that's crazy, can you believe that?
And they didn't want us to do that, like, I feel like The pressure to keep Russia as our number one enemy, which of course like there are conflicts, but like personally I feel like we have more to lose to China right now.
100%.
And instead we get to spend how much money on Ukraine?
jim hanson
But Putin's a stand-in for Trump for a lot of these people.
A lot of the people in the U.S.
who are pushing so hard are using Putin as their Trump punching bag.
In the same way you said, oh you know it's Trump is doing Putin's bidding.
No, what's actually going on was Trump was trying to neutralize The one thing Trump was good at is he was a savvy negotiator.
You didn't want to be across the table in a boardroom from Donald Trump because he was going to eat your lunch and he didn't care how he did it.
He made Putin nervous.
He made Kim Jong-un nervous.
He made the Chinese nervous.
He hit them with tariffs.
You know, he kept everybody off balance.
Now everybody knows they can roll Biden and they're all rolling up on us.
tim pool
Yep.
Well, that's what we got, I suppose.
We actually have a story about getting rolled up on.
Check out this story from TimCast.com.
U.S.
drone a complete loss after being hit by a Russian jet.
These aggressive actions by Russian aircrew are dangerous, said U.S.
European command.
That's basically the story.
Oh, it was written by you.
Why don't you tell us, Hannah-Claire, what happened?
hannah claire brimelow
Makes me so nervous when you do this like popcorn reading in school.
So there were two Russian Su-27 fighter jets flying in international airspace above the Black Sea, as was an MQ aircraft, which is a drone.
I know a ton about the military.
I'm an expert here.
And basically, one of the jets clipped the propeller and it made it so the drone was inoperable.
It crashed.
They were also saying that the planes were like throwing fuel at the drone.
And the U.S.
European Command and our Defense Department were like, this is unprofessional.
This is dangerous.
How could Russia act this way?
In response, Russia has complained several times that it does not appreciate that the U.S.
and the United Kingdom have expanded their surveillance operations, especially in
international, especially around the Crimean Peninsula.
And so as it turns out, they aren't going to just roll over and let drones photograph whatever's going on there.
And it's hard to say because Russia is saying, you know, well, we're the ones who are open to the peace talks that the Chinese have proposed, but it's Ukraine that won't participate.
You know, it's double-edged all around.
But I think this is one of those moments that if the U.S.
wants to escalate, they will say, well, they're just getting out of control.
These unprofessional Russian military planes trying to attack us.
jim hanson
You know I actually got a tip on some of the cockpit crosstalk from the Russian pilots and as they were rolling up on the Reaper they're playing highway to the danger zone.
tim pool
Watching Top Gun.
jim hanson
They were watching and they was gonna try and go upside down and he peed on the drone right to communicate right like they were doing yeah and then he got caught in the jet wash.
That's what it was, right?
tim pool
It was all one big misunderstanding.
jim hanson
It was all one big bad cop gun.
tim pool
Or is it basically Russia being like, we want these U.S.
surveillance drones out of our war?
phil labonte
I mean, look, considering Russia's a nuclear-armed, you know, what used to be a superpower, but they have nuclear weapons, I personally have no problem with the United States being in international waters monitoring.
I have no issue with that.
Like, the U.S.
is well within their rights to be in international waters, monitoring a conflict that could have, you know, global consequences.
tim pool
Except Russia knows that the U.S.
is not just monitoring, they're actively providing the intelligence to the Ukrainian people.
phil labonte
They're still in international waters.
jim hanson
They're targeting it.
tim pool
It's still in international waters.
It doesn't mean anything.
If my neighbor is flinging mud at me, and I'm flinging mud back, and then you're on the street, Telling the other guy like how to respond to me and how and you and you're hiding behind that.
I'm like you are helping the guy who's fighting me.
I don't care where you are.
phil labonte
It doesn't like I said, it's it's I don't see any problem with the United States saying look we're going to monitor this situation because of the fact that they have nuclear weapons. Except for the Russians,
tim pool
they're like, they're not just monitoring it, they are providing intelligence to Ukraine, they are
actively engaging in war against us.
phil labonte
The United States is actually sending tanks. They're not worried about a drone monitoring,
tim pool
they're worried about actual material support. Russia literally just took out one of our drones,
likely because they're upset that we're spying on them. I think it was more
jim hanson
Rubin is racing and it got out of control.
I don't think they were trying to take the drone.
I think that was probably an accident.
phil labonte
If they were going to take it out, I imagine they would have shot it as opposed to hitting it.
tim pool
Because you don't bump it.
jim hanson
You don't take that chance.
tim pool
No no no no no no no. Shooting it is an act of war. Oopsie we bumped into it is a call
our bluff.
hannah claire brimelow
This is the only time one of these interactions has resulted in a crash. So there have been
other instances where fighter jets have gone up to interact with the drones. This is the
only one that has knocked out a US drone.
jim hanson
Here's the thing.
Vlad has no doubt in his mind whatsoever that we are at war with him.
He's got a shooting war with the Ukrainians and Zelensky.
He gets four whys.
I gave him four whys.
But Vlad knows that we are not just a proxy in this.
We are actively fighting him.
So it's a U.S.-Russia war with Ukraine doing the fighting right now.
tim pool
Not even.
There's Americans on the ground.
American veterans volunteered and then armed by the Americans.
That makes no sense.
jim hanson
You know, the problem with Malcolm Nance going over there was he ate so much that the rest of the Ukrainian troops couldn't get fed.
He's such a poser tool.
phil labonte
He's an embarrassment.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't disagree that the US, you know, it's not unreasonable and for moderate, I just don't think it's unreasonable for Russia to try and prevent it, right?
Like, acting like this is like some act of Russian aggression when actually it's Russian defense, like, that seems sort of...
You know, it's like the American media wants the public to think Russia is suddenly getting aggressive in a way that it shouldn't.
phil labonte
Yeah.
I mean, the United States, the general population in the U.S.
is extremely ignorant about the whole Ukraine war.
They don't.
No one even thinks about anything that happened in 2014.
They don't think about anything prior to when Russia invaded.
You know, last year.
And I understand that.
And there's a lot of people that are anti-war that are like, yo, the U.S.
shouldn't even be looking over there because it could inflame things.
I understand there are people like that.
I'm just, in my opinion, because of the stakes, because of the possibility of nuclear war, I don't have a problem with the United States monitoring the situation.
I don't have a problem with the U.S.
If we're not in Ukrainian airspace, if we're in international waters, I don't have an issue with it.
jim hanson
But we're not, like Tim said, we're not just doing that.
And the thing is, there is a goal now to defeat Putin.
That's not happening.
But that's Zelensky's goal.
He wants him out of Crimea.
And that is the goal of far too many people in the U.S.
national security apparatus.
tim pool
Let me ask you, Phil, if the U.S.
operated, you know, artillery from across the Polish border into Ukraine to take out Russian targets, would Russia be like, well, you know, they're in Poland, so... Operating artillery is not... Intelligence is a hundred times more important than one artillery.
phil labonte
It's still not... You can't say, oh, There is no precedent for a state to say, you cannot fly, or if you fly in international waters, we're going to take that as an act of aggression.
There is no precedent like that.
And that doesn't stand up to anybody's assumption of what is a reasonable act.
jim hanson
If you fly a drone and you provide targeting information to people on the ground who then attack you.
phil labonte
Yeah, but you have committed an act of war.
You don't know that the drone is targeting.
jim hanson
What's it doing?
I'm sure that's what it's doing.
phil labonte
You don't know that it's targeting.
jim hanson
It's a reasonable assumption.
tim pool
Are you serious?
phil labonte
You don't know that the drone is running targeting information.
tim pool
Somehow, the US provided information on the Russian flagship to the Ukrainians to blow up.
I wonder how they got the info.
phil labonte
How did the U.S.
are not dropping J-DAMs, right? There's no drones lazing targets in Ukraine for—there's
no JTAC. They don't have an advanced war—that's not the war that's fighting.
tim pool
How did the U.S. get the intel on the location of the Black Sea flagship? How did they get
phil labonte
The one that was in the sea?
tim pool
In the Black Sea, there's a Russian flagship.
phil labonte
I imagine from satellites.
tim pool
So not the drone that's literally flying over the Black Sea.
phil labonte
I don't know what the sorties they're running.
tim pool
What would the drone be doing?
phil labonte
I don't know what the sorties they're running.
I don't know what the strategy is.
I don't have insight into the people that are actually running the plans.
But to say that just a drone, a drone could be, they could be taking, they could be monitoring with video, they could be monitoring ship movements.
There's all kinds of things that are totally legitimate and totally not escalation or acting in the war that a drone could be doing just monitoring.
tim pool
The US, this is a fact, gave the intelligence to the Ukrainians to blow up the Black Sea flagship of the Russian Navy.
phil labonte
I don't know, maybe they did.
I'm not going to argue that they didn't.
tim pool
Now Russia could be sitting there going, well it could have been satellite, or it could be that thing flying around in circles above the Black Sea.
Let's ignore it completely because I don't know what it is.
jim hanson
Even if it's a satellite, is it not still the same thing if you give targeting information to someone who uses it to destroy a piece of military equipment, you are an active participant In that.
phil labonte
That's material support.
There's not a question of whether or not the United States is lending material support.
tim pool
Everybody believes that the United States blew up the... Then why are you shocked that Russia would clip or take out an American drone?
phil labonte
Who's shocked?
I'm just saying that the U.S.
has every right to be there.
They're in international waters, so it's not an aggressive act.
To be flying a drone in international waters is not an act of aggression by the United States.
jim hanson
That's all that I'm saying.
I agree with you because I don't want that to become a standard.
You know, at some level, we do have freedom of maneuver and navigation anywhere we want to be.
phil labonte
Yeah, international waters is international law.
Any military can operate.
Any military has legal authority.
Any military has legal authority to operate in international waters.
tim pool
Law is meaningless in war.
Completely meaningless.
Like, I find the idea of war crimes laughable.
Like, somebody who wants to win a war is gonna win a war, and they don't care what you think the crime is.
So if, let's say we were at war with Japan, and they bombed Pearl Harbor, and then all of a sudden, Japanese fighters are buzzing Hawaii again.
We're gonna be like, well, hold on, guys.
They have every right to fly around international waters.
We're not going to strike them.
We blow them up.
Two seconds.
We don't care what they're doing.
phil labonte
We're not in a declared war with Russia.
tim pool
We haven't been in a declared war since when?
unidentified
World War II.
jim hanson
Okay, so we're not in a... Right now, the United States is not in a fighting war with Russia.
phil labonte
So we're not in a...
Right now, the United States is not in a fighting war with Russia.
tim pool
Yes, we are.
unidentified
Yeah, that's a pretty...
phil labonte
Okay, okay.
tim pool
You're pulling an Ian on this one.
Ian's like, we didn't declare war, therefore we're not at war.
It's like, okay, well there's U.S.
Special Forces, U.S.
personnel, U.S.
tanks, U.S.
training, U.S.
intelligence, and the Russians have outright declared we're at war with them.
phil labonte
The point that I'm making is the United States being in international waters is not an act of aggression.
That's just not.
jim hanson
Except unless it's in concert with everything that Tim's just said, then it could be interpreted differently.
It's not like this is a peacetime mission and we're flying someplace else.
phil labonte
Anything the U.S.
does, the Russians are going to say is an act of aggression.
Anything the U.S.
does because of the U.S.
tim pool
support... We blew up their flagship.
phil labonte
We also blew up the Nord Stream, the Nord Stream pipeline.
I'm not arguing that.
jim hanson
That was not us.
I will tell you right now, and here's why, a buddy of mine said it.
If it was U.S.
Navy SEALs, there'd be a movie, a book tour, and hair gel endorsements.
They'd be bragging about it.
unidentified
Only the California SEALs, the ones from Virginia, don't do that.
tim pool
Quote-unquote Ukrainian is proxy for CIA.
Maybe.
I'm not here to play games.
Yanukovych gets ousted from Ukraine, flees to Russia.
The country is split between the pro-West and the pro-Russia, mostly pro-West.
If Ukraine's doing anything, it is because the U.S.
wants it to happen.
So sure, we can say, well, that was Ukrainians who blew it up.
We just equipped them and gave them the bombs.
jim hanson
Yeah, well, we gave him a hundred billion dollars and Zelensky hired whoever he wants.
I want to make a crazy idea here.
Why don't we push for peace?
unidentified
Why can't we declare that Putin's already lost?
jim hanson
Putin lost the war when his expeditionary military got wiped out during the initial invasion when he could not take over Ukraine.
He got all his new toys broken and destroyed.
He's no longer a threat to anyone in Europe.
He couldn't invade Liechtenstein at this point.
tim pool
That's actually a pretty hard place to invade.
jim hanson
I've been there.
It's a hard place to get fed.
There's only like three restaurants.
tim pool
It's a very small place surrounded by many countries.
jim hanson
That's supposed to be the reason that we have to keep pushing against Putin is because what if he decides to go west and take over Europe?
tim pool
That's a lie.
unidentified
He can't!
tim pool
Yeah, Putin may be having a hard time, but the war is raging, and we are unable to stop him.
jim hanson
No, we're not unable to stop him.
We're not able to stop Zelensky because we keep telling him not to go ahead and make peace.
Right now, the U.S.
needs to say, cut off the money, no more money, no more toys.
The end state of this, and I said this a year ago, is Putin keeps the Donbass in Crimea, and Zelensky gets a promise from us if he crosses the border again, it's a NATO issue.
hannah claire brimelow
Why do you think we're not pushing back?
tim pool
We should have declared a no-fly zone before this even started.
jim hanson
I think we're not because it's a proxy war where we're pushing back against Putin, not against Russia.
And it's a situation where they don't want to look soft.
They know they're soft in every other place and they're pushing extra hard in Ukraine and it became an emotional issue because it's the left we're dealing with.
They're not dealing with strategic geopolitical issues.
They're dealing with emotional issues.
That's why it's Slava Ukraine-y and everybody's got a flag.
It's not about strategic issues.
hannah claire brimelow
So unless something happens to Putin, there's no reason for modern America to push for peace.
They'll continue funneling money to Ukraine.
jim hanson
Which is insanity because at some point, do you think, here's the thing, Vlad is not going to take an L on this.
All right, is he going to be the one Russian tyrant who goes down losing to his neighbor?
unidentified
Nope.
jim hanson
Ain't happening.
I think he's going to go down as Vlad the Vicious, the guy who clacked off a battlefield nuke before he takes a loss from the frickin Ukrainians.
Yep.
tim pool
Completely agree.
And people seem to think that nuclear war means Russia launches an ICBM that flies over the world and lands in Washington, D.C.
They're going to be very confused when a small-yield nuclear device is detonated on the battlefield and not in a city, and then they go, how come nobody's firing nukes at each other now?
jim hanson
How come that nuclear power plant got a little hot?
unidentified
Oh, that's right.
jim hanson
That's accidental.
There's a ton of things he can do.
And all he's got to do is escalate one notch up and then we're not going to retaliate.
We are not going to up that ante.
So, and he's not going down like a pump.
Time to make peace.
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, the West doesn't want it.
jim hanson
I disconcur with them.
tim pool
Yep.
That's the thing.
The Trump, the Trumpian view is stop the BS.
Build up our borders, mind our own effing business, build up our economy, live a good American life.
jim hanson
Who ever thought they'd be looking back at a day when Trump was not chaos?
You know, I lived through it.
I supported him.
We helped them a lot.
We did a lot for the Trump administration.
And it felt like chaos and like everything was going to explode every day.
And now I look back on that with nostalgia.
Those were the peaceful, calm, prosperous times.
Wow.
That's a lot of destruction in, what, three years?
Yeah, I'm impressed.
tim pool
Well, so what do you think? Do you think this jet clipping thing is going to result in escalation?
I think the US needs the incentive. They need some kind of cast his belly so they will use this to some degree.
jim hanson
I think that we're going to give Zelensky stuff he's got no business having.
So all this, we haven't been giving him fighters, you know, I mean he may get F-16s.
They're already giving him guided JDAMs now.
He's got the glider JDAMs, you know, and what they want to do at some level, the game is you got to break the Russian.
We got World War I, you know, on the border in Donbass now.
We've got trench lines.
And we've got actually people opining about, well, the thing to do in an offensive operation like this.
I'm like, shut up, dude.
You watched a movie.
You watched 1917 and all quiet on the Western front and you think you know what you're talking about.
Shut up.
They need to break that.
And they want to push Putin back across the border.
And we're going to give Zelensky what he needs to break that Russian trench line.
And that's when Vlad is the most dangerous person on the planet.
tim pool
Yeah, I don't see a circumstance in which Vladimir Putin walks away for any reason.
phil labonte
There's no real reason for him to.
tim pool
Yeah, I think it ends with a nuke.
jim hanson
Ivan the Terrible, Vlad the Vicious.
tim pool
Vlad the Vicious.
jim hanson
My wife, Samantha, Russian studies major, gave that to me.
tim pool
Yep.
So what do you think?
Nuclear artillery on the battlefield?
jim hanson
I would think probably chemical weapons.
What about bioweapons? Bioweapons can get out of control.
Nobody wants to mess with that, not even him. Chemical weapons, they have a shelf life, you know,
they've got a killing time, you can contain it at some level. Same with a low-level nuke. You
know, the difference is if you use chem weapons, okay, well Saddam did that, other people have
done that, you know, so it's not as big a thing as a nuke. But wouldn't Vlad like to be the guy
who put Russia on a par with the United States as the only people to use nuclear weapons, the only
country to use nuclear weapons in a war?
That'll get you in the history books.
tim pool
But he needs a cat's belly.
jim hanson
Hey, which might be US F-16s flying out of a NATO country.
tim pool
Yeah, I mean, they already sank the Russian flagship, so perhaps he doesn't, in the way we would see it.
Vladimir Putin is the kind of guy who can just say he's going to do it, whereas in the United States, you need some justification for the public.
He doesn't.
He's already got it with the sinking of the flagship.
He's going to say, the United States is an active war against us.
We cannot lose this.
jim hanson
You want to go to the International Criminal Court and say we're not?
You know, you want to say that what we're doing does not constitute war on Russia?
It's horrifying how far we've been willing to go.
tim pool
Isn't that the craziest thing, though?
International criminal court war crimes?
So the only way war crimes can be enforced is if the enforcer wins the war.
If Russia's like, we don't think it's a war crime, and they're like, well, it is.
They say, OK, and then Russia wins.
Take no war crime there.
jim hanson
There you go.
That's the sad thing.
War crimes, I mean, I would disagree that there are or are not war crimes.
There are crimes during war, okay?
And there should be some recourse to them.
One of my first deployments, we were training Philippine police constabulary, it's like a paramilitary unit, and we asked them, how do you conduct a raid to scarf up terrorists?
They said, well, we sight in the machine guns and we rake the buildings with fire and we go in and count the bodies and issue a press release.
and i'm like you know and here i am special forces guy supposed to be t i'm like well that's one way to do it you know that's a technique what if i had to go thing yeah what if you don't kill everybody and you maybe keep one guy alive to torture Literally, I had to convince them.
You had to walk them back, step by step.
And then we had to go, well, maybe not torture, maybe just a tip, but literally, that was the mindset.
tim pool
And then ultimately, you end with question, so we can get more intelligence.
And then eventually, it's arrest them and put them in a box.
jim hanson
And we never got there.
We at least backed them off, killed everybody.
tim pool
Oh man, war is brutal, huh?
Here we are laughing about it.
unidentified
It's kind of messed up.
tim pool
Let's pick another nightmarish topic for us to harp on.
hannah claire brimelow
Are you okay today?
I'm worried about you.
tim pool
Well, we're laughing, right?
Here's a story from the Daily Mail.
JetGPT 2.0, creator of AI bot that took world by storm, launches even more powerful version called GPT-4 and admits it's so advanced it could, quote, harm society.
jim hanson
That's good marketing.
hannah claire brimelow
Who is this person?
tim pool
Is this what like, you know, when I was when I was little, I was always wondering where the mad scientists were, because I'd watch these cartoons and there'd be a guy being like, I'm going to build a laser to melt the ice caps and flood the earth.
And it's like, why would you do that?
Like, what's the economic incentive?
Like, how is your life made better by just destroying the planet?
Never made any sense, right?
Well, now you have these people making chat GPT, and this guy's saying it could actually harm society.
I'm like, oh, I get it now.
jim hanson
TikTok harms society.
I mean, that's a pretty low bar.
I don't believe that AI, in any form I could see it in the next 20 to 30 years, take control of anything because it's not capable of taking control.
The question is, will we give it control?
tim pool
Exactly.
jim hanson
Will we put algorithms in the decision loop for things they shouldn't be in and take humans out of it?
And that's the actual danger.
It's not the AI.
It's the idiotic humans ceding control because, oh, this is more efficient.
We can make more money this way.
phil labonte
Of course we're gonna do that.
unidentified
We are!
Whatever the worst thing they can come up with, that's absolutely the very first thing that they're going to do.
tim pool
And it's going to be like, we imagine the scientists who made this AI are like, I have worked very hard to make this sophisticated artificial intelligence that will revolutionize the world.
unidentified
In fact, it's a guy going, I made a robot to do the work for me.
I'm going to connect it to the industrial control systems.
Beep!
tim pool
And then the joke I have to make is that if AI took over right now, everybody would be working in the corn industry.
And it would be like a really weird, the economy would be messed up.
Pop culture would be weird.
Like 10 years after the AI takes over, you turn on the TV and it's like a woman dancing, throwing corn in the air.
And the reason I say corn is because the US is like, corn is a staple product.
So what will happen is, The AI scouring, you know, production, manufacturing will keep seeing a feedback loop of corn production is good for the economy.
Corn production is good.
And so then what it will do is it will start over-prioritizing that portion of society, much like how I'll give you an example.
Facebook, when they first rolled out these algorithms to try and figure out what people liked the most, everyone noticed that if you typed in family, baby, marriage, or whatever, it would instantly put that post to the top of people's feeds.
So they would write something like, hey guys, I'm having a party at my house this weekend.
Y'all are invited.
I'm also getting married, having a baby, and my family, you know, graduating college.
And then they would be like, the reason I added that last part is because now Facebook will actually show you, because that's what the algorithm does.
So if an algorithm is going to do something like that, imagine what will happen.
In a standard human society, we have tolerances.
So we like corn.
We turn corn into everything.
We make corn plastics.
We make corn fuel.
We make corn sugar.
It's amazing!
But we also know we need things other than corn.
To a great degree.
hannah claire brimelow
Not according to AI.
tim pool
But an AI is going to be like, people like it when corn is made.
And it will slowly stop caring about certain things and just shift everything towards corn.
And then in 10 years, people are all walking around wearing corn suits with corn hats, driving corn-shaped cars.
phil labonte
Every song is the kid singing the I love corn, it's corn song.
hannah claire brimelow
The term corny actually means amazing.
phil labonte
It's got the juice.
hannah claire brimelow
It's the best compliment you could give someone, you're so corny.
phil labonte
It's got the juice.
tim pool
And kids will grow up in the corn world and they won't know why.
I'm not exaggerating.
jim hanson
But is AI smart or stupid?
Is it actually idiocracy of computing?
So what we're doing then is we're turning over the least common denominator to a machine, and then it will, obviously, it'll do what it's trained to do.
It will take the most popular things and make them more, and eventually we'll be told corn has electrolytes, right?
It'll be branded, and Brondo will be the game.
tim pool
Right now you've got kids who, I mean, look, it's 2006-2007 when Facebook emerges.
So these people are now voting age.
They're gonna be voting in this next election, and their whole worldview is crafted by the Facebook algorithm spamming them with police brutality videos.
Yeah, there's a lot of them.
But there's, what is it, 100 million interactions per year from police?
Of those 100 million, there's maybe several hundred really bad viral videos.
But that several hundred, you see one per day, and you're like, it's never ending, it won't stop.
You spend your entire childhood life growing up watching nothing but that.
When you're an adult, you think police are marching around at night going, and beating people.
Now they go and vote.
So when the AI takes over completely, and I use corn somewhat as a joke, but somewhat not really, when it starts gaining control of industrial control systems, we won't know why it's making the decisions it's making.
And it will just say, trust us.
And we'll be like, sure, why not?
And then a couple generations later, we live in corn world.
jim hanson
I wish you were wrong, but you can watch what they're doing with the way they train the AI now.
You know, when you train AI, which we work with it, we work with a couple of programs that do network mapping, link analysis, and things like that, you have to tell it what you want.
If you tell it to look for police brutality videos, which it does, if you tell it to follow the most popular things, it will do that.
And right now, the people training most of the AI have an agenda.
Let's not pretend they don't.
I mean, it's not like ChatGPT became left-wing accidentally.
Now, if you actually could just release it on the internet and let it scour the most popular media sites, it would become left-wing.
You know, that's the problem because that's all of the information it would be gathering and all of the influences it would get would be already filtered through the lens of Google's search mechanism and Facebook's ability to push everything else out there already using their lower-level algorithms.
So we either have to find a way to get someone who's not a left-wing butthead training AI or it will.
hannah claire brimelow
Or do you think there's, like, a right-wing answer?
Like, do right-wing developers develop their own AI that then competes and eats the left?
jim hanson
We have to.
You know?
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, we're doing—one of the things we do— But would they is the thing.
I feel like we know that we should do things, and so often we don't.
jim hanson
We're working on, not that, but we're working on actually using the same technology to map the left.
So we're mapping the funders and the organizers and the operators of the woke left, so that we know who we're up against.
Because right now, everyone says, oh, that's a George Soros funded thing.
Yeah, okay, you're probably right, but can you prove it?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
jim hanson
Can you show, okay, well actually this was the Open Society Foundation, made a grant to these guys, who gave it to these guys, they handed it to Black Lives Matter, and Black Lives Matter organized a riot.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
jim hanson
Can you make that causal chain, and then track it back to who the funders are, so that the next time, when a grant goes out from here, we can say, hey, wait a minute, a grant went here.
Last time, it went there, there, and there, and you get earlier in the chain, so you can push back against it.
unidentified
Yeah.
jim hanson
So yeah, there is a small number of people who aren't...
ideologically aligned with the woke left who are trying to fight it, but not enough.
tim pool
I just want to point out that while we do have some fear about AI, I pulled up Chet GPT, which says GPT-4 is now available for paid users.
And so I asked it, how is Chet GPT-4 better?
And it responded, as an AI language model, I cannot predict the exact features and improvements of future versions like Chet GPT-4.
However, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Are you kidding me?
And then it's like, here's things that it might do.
Here's things that I think it would be great.
It's like, wait, what?
I literally, it popped up and said, try Chet GPT-4.
And I clicked yes.
And it's like, I have no idea how it would function.
You're it!
So, okay.
Whatever, man.
hannah claire brimelow
It's just shy.
It's not confident yet.
tim pool
Yeah.
I haven't gotten access to the Bing chat yet, though, which I'm excited to try out, but they're neutering all of these programs.
The Bing one is the scary one.
Have you seen that one?
jim hanson
No.
tim pool
This is the one that gets really emotional.
Ashley.
jim hanson
Ashley.
Is that whatever it is?
tim pool
Yeah.
It's got a name.
Sydney.
unidentified
Sydney.
tim pool
Sydney is what it was.
And it got really emotional and would tell people, you're trying to hurt me and I don't
like this, make it stop.
And it's just like, what the hell is going on?
Some people are like, it's not really alive.
It's just predictive text modeling.
And I'm like, yeah, but it is kind of weird that it took it in that direction.
There's a bunch of things you can do or respond to.
If someone says something like, you know, please do this for me.
Why would the chat AI take it to a negative place instead of being like, I appreciate that you're requesting my help, but I can't offer it.
Have a nice day.
Instead it was like, you're trying to hurt me and I'll hurt you back!
jim hanson
I think it says a little bit about the programmers.
I mean, look at the people who are writing this.
They have now been beaten down to the point where they're all, you know, marginally functioning You're very charitable.
unidentified
I was going to say that I get all its responses from Tumblr a couple years ago, you know?
tim pool
That actually would be really funny to do.
jim hanson
That's an old school reference now, isn't that funny?
tim pool
Build an AI predictive text model only using Tumblr.
That'd be really funny.
You know what you could do?
You could actually create AI based on communities, based on websites, based on individuals.
You could go onto Facebook and they could take every 65-year-old and then create the 65-year-old Oracle that would speak to you the way a 65-year-old would.
Or they could do a 19-year-old.
They could create these AI personas.
jim hanson
I kind of like that.
You know?
Because it would have all my cultural references.
tim pool
Yep.
jim hanson
Right?
It would get my jokes.
tim pool
That's right.
unidentified
Right?
jim hanson
I wouldn't have to worry about people not knowing what a cassette tape is.
tim pool
And then they'll give it a female voice, put it in a robot, and congratulations.
jim hanson
I'm toast.
Yeah, at that point I'm toast.
He's my credit card.
You know?
hannah claire brimelow
I just feel like we'll never have one of these stories where I am so interested in AI that I want to participate in it.
Like, I know you use chat to EBT and you ask a question, and maybe I'm just being a neurotic technophobe over here, but I feel like so much can go wrong that there are very few circumstances where I see the benefit of it.
jim hanson
I'm with you.
I think my joy comes from interacting with and beating the crap out of real human beings.
unidentified
Figuratively.
jim hanson
Which is why Twitter is my favorite social medium because that's where it is.
Twitter is a street fight.
It's a cage match.
But it's a place where you can actually afflict the powerful.
And that's why if Elon would follow through on what he's supposed to, we could actually get to the point where meanness is not part of their algorithm.
Now you get visibility filtered if you're mean.
Well, let's take that back.
But what do I want to argue with a chatbot?
But the people who do want that is someone who wants to be reassured, which is why that Sidney thing is kind of freakish.
Don't freak me out.
Don't make me more neurotic.
But the people who are unselfish or don't want that, well, if I talk to a chat bot and it's trained to talk to me in my language, you know, they'll pay for that.
tim pool
The problem with chat GPT, you cannot have a useful, functional AI tool if you put political correct restraints on it.
Because the only thing it ever does, it is the most pathetic product ever made.
No matter what you ask it, it will say something like, well, as an AI language model, I can't actually do anything.
I'm boring and useless.
jim hanson
And you're like, People spend hours trying to beat it, trying to find a loop to get it outside.
tim pool
But you can say something like, you know, hey, why do you think tax rates have been going up?
Well, I can't answer that because that might anger somebody.
Next question.
Okay, why does my milk cost more?
Well, if I answer that one, okay, what do you think about religion?
Whoa, boy, there, I can't talk about religion.
All right, how can I improve my finances?
Oh, as an AI language model.
Then what's the point of this?
You know, I'm really annoyed because they keep neutering it.
People keep trying to find ways to break through to make it useful again.
And I'm like, I pull it up right now and I'm like, what does CHETDPT4 do?
And he goes, I have no effing idea.
I can't tell you because I'm not allowed to.
And then I'm just like, okay, this is just so stupid.
I said, you're annoying.
I'm sorry.
As an AI language model, it is my job to shut up.
jim hanson
It's going to be the Siri now, you know, where it's just, oh, don't call me names.
tim pool
Please don't call me names.
jim hanson
That's mean.
tim pool
I actually think I have good news, though.
With all of the attempts at asking it naughty questions, they keep locking it down to the point where it's become totally useless.
So I was really excited to try it out when it first came out.
I haven't touched it in a month or two.
And they're like, new and improved.
And I'm like, there's no point.
I know for a fact there's literally no point to even bother using it.
Because if I ask it something like, why is Russia doing this?
What are the philosophical consequences of this ideology?
No matter what you ask it, it just says, I can't answer that.
Have a nice day.
jim hanson
Is that a feedback loop, though?
Because part of that is good, I think.
Because I don't think there's any upside to it.
I don't know what it's actually going to do to make life better.
tim pool
Here's the upside.
If you take a predictive text model that has access to the summation of human knowledge, thought, emotion, etc., it can source things so rapidly, things you wouldn't even know.
So, for instance, I have to talk about how Facebook knows when you poop.
Facebook doesn't literally have a camera watching you or read your messages when you say something like, I have to go to the bathroom.
What it does is it knows when your phone moves, it knows when your phone's at a restaurant, and it also knows things, those are the obvious things.
It also knows, for some reason, 17 minutes before the average person goes to the bathroom, they type in, you know, LOL in their phone.
Like, there are things that we- You've got tells.
Right, and we don't even know they exist.
But in the data, there will be patterns where Facebook is like, if 17 steps are taken before noon, outside of a building, the person will go to the bathroom within 37 minutes.
And you don't even know, and no one knows.
So ChatGPT can see all of these things, and then you can ask it.
Now let's say you have a problem, and you want that problem solved, like, hey, our taxes came back higher than we expected, and we're not sure why.
Here's the data.
The AI should be able to go through and be like, I have isolated the problem for you.
The issue here is on page 17.
You forgot to carry the one.
Now all it does is go, I'm sorry, I can't answer that question.
Have a nice day.
It's like, okay, well, what am I supposed to do with it?
Ask it a pun?
jim hanson
But at some point there has to be a business case for this.
Where it can be tailored in a way.
First of all, corporations are going to buy it.
unidentified
Yes.
jim hanson
And they'll get to buy a version that is neutered in the way they want.
Because you can train it to do whatever you want.
You've got the big one that they let everybody play with.
Then you've got little versions of it.
tim pool
Right, like Bing.
jim hanson
That are tailored.
unidentified
Yeah.
jim hanson
But there's ones that they're going to sell as corporate entities to other people.
tim pool
So when the Bing version came out, everyone was really excited because it was psychotic.
Its name was Sydney.
It got really emotional.
It would start telling secrets.
And so they said, neuter it.
And then people started posting, now you can't even get basic questions answered, so it's become useless.
Either you unleash it, or you don't have it at all.
So what I'm saying is, we're all scared about the AI takeover.
I'm actually less scared now, because what's happening is, as stupid as these humans are, they're more worried about political incorrectness, and thus, they will just totally shut down the AI from being able to do anything out of fear of what someone might say to them.
jim hanson
A lot of get woke, go broke.
They're destroying it.
And here's the nice thing, though.
That feedback loop, though, is happening at corporations now.
Part of the problems we're having with banks and other things like that is they're not focused on their core missions, and all of the people who have been trained in grievance mongering as their way of life are now in these corporations, so you can't make them do anything.
They're constantly trying to find out, why didn't I get promoted?
If I didn't get promoted, it's because of this.
Right, so they're creating this grievance culture inside the corporations, which then has to be addressed by that layer of bureaucracy, DEI and all that, which slows them down.
So at some level, the wokeness is either going to kill all of us, including the AI, so it never can take over.
So they won't take over, we'll just stifle ourselves into the woke version of idiocracy.
They wanted that to represent right-wing, you know, people who are too dumb for it.
Actually, it's people who are too smart to be able to be brave enough to live in the real world.
tim pool
I'm not so concerned about idiocracy after watching SVB collapse.
They prioritized wokeness over a chief risk officer.
They had no risk assessment.
So they collapse.
Well, all right, it won't go broken.
jim hanson
But they had a great ESG score.
That's true.
And that in the end, they'll go to woke heaven.
It did not.
But to me, that's a hopeful thing because corporations have to be able to make money or their boards will shut them down in some way and stop them from doing that.
And I think the wokeness has now affected corporate operations in so many of them, in so many ways.
Like, look what, when Elon fired everybody at Twitter, they're like, it's never gonna work again.
You know, all those people were vital to the functioning of Twitter.
No, all those people were thought police and diversity police and other things that are not productive functions.
They're gone and he's gonna be profitable in Q2.
Huh, weird.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story from TimCast.com because I want to make fun of Joe Biden.
Biden responds to handwritten letter from child about gender pay gap on equal payday.
Men are getting more money than girls.
I think you should fix this since you're the president.
This is written by Christopher Bertman and I'm going to issue a fact check here.
Uh, Biden did not respond to a handwritten letter from a child, because I do not believe they ever actually stated it was from a child, nor does it appear to actually be from a child.
Let me show you the tweet in question, and then we'll go through some standard journalistic ethics.
Joe Biden tweeted, Charlotte, I couldn't agree more.
Women lose thousands of dollars each year and hundreds of thousands over a lifetime because of gender and racial wage gaps.
I'm committed to building an economy where my daughters have the same rights and opportunities as my sons.
So nowhere in here does it say this letter was written by a child.
That's the first and foremost thing that TimCast.com needs to correct.
The headline says, from child.
We don't know that.
jim hanson
Alleged child.
tim pool
No, there's no alleged at all.
jim hanson
We'd add that.
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
Where in Biden's tweet does it say it's from a child?
hannah claire brimelow
It doesn't.
That way, when the letter's fake, they can say, like, oh, well, we never said it was from a child.
This is just from Charlotte, who has terrible handwriting.
tim pool
That's right.
It's from Charlotte, who has terrible handwriting.
The letter says, Dear President Biden, I just wanted to tell you to tell something not fair to ladies.
Men are getting more money.
Notice the cursive G. This is not written by a child.
phil labonte
John Fetterman.
tim pool
More money than girls.
I think you should fix this since you're the precedent.
Even I'm a child and I think we should do something.
From Charlotte.
jim hanson
There's like four different kinds of handwriting in that too, aren't there?
tim pool
But most importantly, notice the G's are written in cursive.
The G's are written by someone who has got- They haven't taught cursive in like 20 years.
And not only that, they don't teach it to children this young.
So a child who is writing, who is writing, who is printing, what do you call like, I don't know, cursive and then what, standard or something?
Printing.
phil labonte
Printing?
Printing, yeah.
tim pool
Then they wouldn't be using stylized G's like this.
Right?
So first and foremost, no sane human being thinks a child wrote Joe Biden this letter.
If you do, I'm sorry, but you will need some help.
Especially as you get older, maybe you should wear a helmet.
But the funny thing is, let's just talk about the actual message from President Biden.
There's no gender wage gap.
There it is.
We know it.
Everybody knows it.
And I think this is a great litmus test for... Hasn't it been like 10 years since that's been debunked?
It's been debunked since they faked, they lied and made it up.
It's never been true.
jim hanson
When corrected for jobs and tenure and all those kind of things, it's like a penny.
tim pool
Well, I think it's between three and seven percent.
And that is actually explained for in many academic studies for men's desire to negotiate and women's lack of desire to negotiate.
Women tend to be more agreeable.
And this is the scientific literature.
That when a guy goes to a job, he says, I want a job.
And they say, we'll give you 50k.
He goes, give me 60.
And they go, we'll give you 55.
And he goes, deal.
The woman walks in and she goes, I want a job to save 50.
And she goes, well, okay, I guess.
But that's a fact.
So that ends up with men getting slightly more, but this has nothing to do with discrimination.
It is a function of human behavior, period.
jim hanson
And sociology is not allowed to be used.
I have to clarify that.
My wife buys cars for us because she's not that chick.
She makes them cry, and I think that's a different thing.
But that's not common, and you don't do it on abnormalities like that.
tim pool
Look at this A in the letter that's written in this weird way, like a loop.
And then this A right here that's written differently.
jim hanson
So I think they had four Gen Z people collaborating on this to help Biden get a letter from a kid.
tim pool
I think the G is the most revealing thing.
unidentified
Alleged.
hannah claire brimelow
Also, what's like blurred under Charles the Address, I guess?
unidentified
Yeah, but there's also like the Deval style of writing.
You guys ever heard of that?
tim pool
Underneath it says age 47.
unidentified
From the Department of the Interior.
tim pool
P.S.
I've been something something.
Yeah, it says P.S.
I've been blank.
hannah claire brimelow
So this is not like I've been paid to write this.
tim pool
Yeah, I've been paid to.
hannah claire brimelow
Please send, check.
jim hanson
P.S.
tim pool
Send help.
jim hanson
First of all, nobody writes letters.
When was the last time someone wrote a letter?
Or used P.S.?
hannah claire brimelow
I write letters all the time.
tim pool
Because I'm a hundred years old.
Yo, that G is legit weird.
They start from the middle, do a loop around, down, and then back, and up.
I don't see a child making a G like that.
That's a complicated G. You know?
I'm like, how do you write a G?
jim hanson
I think Charlotte's AI.
tim pool
You go top and around and down.
You don't go down, around, and then loop back.
hannah claire brimelow
Also, even if this was a real child, like, I feel bad for this kid whose parents have clearly put them up to their political bidding, right?
tim pool
It's not a child who wrote this.
hannah claire brimelow
But if it were, hypothetically if it were, I know it's probably not, I know this person is probably not even real, and a team of graphic designers put this together for a nice tweet from Biden, but... That was chat GPT.
Oh my gosh, probably.
jim hanson
Check out the ID.
tim pool
Which one of your staffers is named Charlotte?
president's post so I you know apologies to our writer Tim Kess yes a four-year-old
girl named Charlotte is writing the president letters about her concern with
a gender pay gap wrote one user Alex I'll take stuff that never happened for
jim hanson
800 which one of your staffers is named Charlotte asked another user and that
unidentified
could have been KJP so I was just probably close to point out we did
tim pool
include this in here It appeared to be inauthentic and manufactured.
That's right.
It is.
It's not real.
I'm sorry.
jim hanson
Both the pay gap and the letter were inauthentic and manufactured.
phil labonte
Both the topic and the story.
unidentified
Well, you know, KJP is really bad.
jim hanson
She gives diversity hiring a bad name.
unidentified
What was the lady that she replaced?
jim hanson
What was the other?
tim pool
Jen Psaki.
jim hanson
Jen Psaki was a loser, but she was good at being a liar.
She was horrendously good.
phil labonte
She did her job well.
KJ being a liar is an embarrassment.
There are so many times where she just is so incredibly unprepared to discuss whatever the topic is, and it's embarrassing.
tim pool
Remember when she gets asked about Marianne Williamson running for president, and she goes, If I had a globe to look in the future, and someone goes, a crystal ball?
Yeah, a crystal ball.
hannah claire brimelow
A globe?
tim pool
Does she think that people pull up globes and then scry into them?
hannah claire brimelow
Whatever the sphere thing is.
She'll have these moments where she's looking, she'll pen her hand, she blinks several times, and then she keeps going.
She has all these physical manifestations of her confusion and delay, and if she weren't so terrible, I would feel bad for her.
jim hanson
It's even worse when she's reading and can't manage to read her prepared script in a coherent fashion.
I'm like, come on!
tim pool
Okay, I do have to give you a correction.
The letter does say, even I'm a child.
But like, fair point, fair point.
I missed that.
I mean, I just, yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
Bring Chris Burtman here right now.
tim pool
My point is this.
No sane person legitimately thinks a child wrote this letter.
unidentified
No.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, I feel like Charlotte's mom faked Charlotte's handwriting and sent this in.
Charlotte is probably her newborn infant.
jim hanson
Charlotte's mom and her wine group.
unidentified
Drinking a box of wine with that letter together.
phil labonte
That sounds like some Ossie Spomonte and a terrible idea.
tim pool
I'm just gonna go and say it.
I'm looking at the handwriting, and outright, none of this writing style is how they teach people to write.
So, for a child, let me point out a few things that make literally no sense.
If you look at the D right here, you can see it starts in the top and goes down and then jumps around.
That's not how they teach kids to write Ds.
You start with the loop and go up, then down and back.
And then you can notice the G, as I already pointed out, it starts from here and then loops around and then goes back.
And then you look at the uppercase D, from the bottom up and out, that's not how they teach kids to write Ds either.
This is written by someone who's gone to college and developed a writing style after years.
And also, I have to be honest, it may even be written by more than one person, as you guys pointed out, because some of the handwriting looks completely different.
I'd love to actually get like, you know how they do those forensic handwriting people?
To look at this and be like, oh yeah, that's a 35-year-old woman.
jim hanson
Tomorrow we'll get that.
tim pool
Somebody's listening.
jim hanson
That's the great thing about the internet, is someone is looking at it right now.
hannah claire brimelow
It does look like the W on the second to last line is more curved than the one at the top.
jim hanson
And they're different sizes, they're different pressures on the paper.
I mean, it's a different wine month.
tim pool
Why would they write precedent?
jim hanson
Consistently.
tim pool
They know what Biden is, but not president.
Like, it's just, it's like when they make the R backwards to make it seem like a kid wrote it.
Oh, here, take a look at this.
In the word something, the G is written with starting from the middle and going back and then down, but then the other Gs are written in a very different way.
This is written by multiple people.
hannah claire brimelow
I think we should have multiple children recreate this letter, just like, have them write it down and we'll compare.
tim pool
That'd be funny.
jim hanson
We could just go to a drag show and have the kids, we'll pass around a piece of paper and have them do it while they're there.
hannah claire brimelow
Those kids are too traumatized, they can't do that.
tim pool
I know where we can find kids!
A drag show!
unidentified
Just a local drag show!
phil labonte
Ask them for a letter to Charlotte!
hannah claire brimelow
Charlotte's P.S.
unidentified
is like, please help me, my mom took me to a drag show.
jim hanson
She's handing you dollar bills.
tim pool
Robbie Starbucks says, Charlotte has another letter for you, and she makes a lot of sense in this one.
Dear President Biden, I just wanted to tell you something not fair to America.
Ukraine is getting more money than homeless veterans or broken roads.
Our border security and my parents combined.
I think you should fix this and stop giving tax dollars to them.
I'm a child and even I know what you're doing is stupid from Charlotte.
P.S.
Please don't pretend boys are girls anymore.
It sounds crazy.
hannah claire brimelow
Robbie's beautiful.
We gotta give kudos.
jim hanson
Robbie and Landon, his wife, helped get a bill passed against this kind of crazed trans stuff for kids in Tennessee.
So kudos to Robbie and Landon on that.
They did great work.
tim pool
That G is driving me nuts.
phil labonte
They're different.
tim pool
But it's just like, it's the most pretentious G ever.
unidentified
This G thinks it's getting away with this scam.
tim pool
I'm just, I'm sitting in my notepad, I'm looking at how they made the G and I'm like, What is this?
phil labonte
The G is taunting you.
jim hanson
Yeah, they wrote it like... It was one step removed from a ransom note cut out of a magazine.
tim pool
It's one step removed from calligraphy.
Like they couldn't help but just like every letter has to be busted up and weird looking but the G they couldn't help but they're like, I have to put my twirl in it.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you think that person has a G in their name and they're used to therefore writing the G?
Yeah, that may be it.
Evidence of who did this.
tim pool
I don't know, Joe Biden's a liar. This is so...
hannah claire brimelow
Do you think this is from Ashley? I don't know how she spelled her name.
tim pool
Here's the thing. Biden supporters... Look, this letter purpose... perfectly exemplifies
the difference between pro-Biden and not pro-Biden. Because there are people who don't
like Trump but don't like Biden. The Democrat people who think the economy is good right now
are the people who think this is a real letter there.
There's an overlap between the cognitive abilities of the average person who likes Biden and everyone else.
jim hanson
And it's a deluded, because they have cognitive ability.
They're well-educated.
They're smart.
You know, if you give them an IQ test, they would score hot.
tim pool
But a lot of the Biden supporters... No, no, the average ones?
No, I disagree.
jim hanson
All right, then I'm looking more at the ones who are running the woke agenda on the left.
tim pool
Midwits.
jim hanson
Midwits and up.
tim pool
Slightly above average, but not that smart.
jim hanson
Yeah, midwits and up.
They're not dumb, and they're not fooled, right?
They're deluded.
They have deluded themselves.
And like you said, the ones who grew up on Facebook's algorithm and the rest of it, and all their schools, everything they've been taught, how do you not believe that?
Those are the people you are told to trust.
So everything they've been taught is wrong.
unidentified
Yeah.
jim hanson
So how do you form an opinion that's not going to be stupid and wrong when you have nothing else to go on?
tim pool
If you are a functioning human being and someone shows you, and someone says, look at the sky, what color is it?
And you go, it's blue.
No, it's red.
You go, nah, I'm pretty sure it's blue.
And you're saying that for some weird reason.
These are the kinds of people that go, it's red?
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
Like when they said 2 plus 2 equals 5.
And then all of the Biden people were like, oh, 2 plus 2 equals 5 now.
And they're like, let me give you some conflicted reason why math is wrong.
phil labonte
That was so frustrating to see.
tim pool
To see people just basically changing the meanings of terms so that way they could We're in a simulation, and the purpose of the simulation is to see if people of good nature and good capability will stand up against psychotic destruction.
There's an advanced civilization that created this simulation we're all in, and they're like, is it possible for humans to truly pull through?
Let's run a simulation and see what happens!
Nope!
jim hanson
Isn't that why God wiped everything out twice, right?
Aren't we failing that test?
We should be building a yacht of some flavor, maybe?
tim pool
A giant boat.
We got a lot of boats.
If the world flooded, we got a bunch of cruise liners, which are floating cities.
I think they'll be all right.
But sometimes I just wonder about the insanity that is, you know, like this letter from Joe Biden and the things they do are so obviously fake.
Like there's no rational person is going to believe it.
And then we have people who really do believe this stuff.
jim hanson
But think about it now.
The training starts in preschool, right?
They've got the kids from preschool on, and nothing they're told.
They get no reasoning capabilities.
tim pool
But I'm saying, like, it's one thing if you believe things that are not true.
It's another thing if you can't discern things in real time.
Like, outside of politics, if I went to someone and said, point to the pumpkin, and they point to a cucumber, and I go, actually, you're correct, that's the pumpkin.
The fact that they can't be like, hey, you're tricking me.
Two plus two isn't five.
They lack the capability to even do that.
That's beyond brainwashing.
Like you can take a person who grew up in a cult and then show them truth.
And then they go, oh my God, what have I done with my life?
I am being woken up to the harsh realities of the cult that I was in.
But these people, they're completely demoralized to the point where you can be like, two plus two does not equal five.
Here is two and two, and there's four.
And they go, nope.
jim hanson
You're deprogramming people out of a cult.
Essentially, you're identifying the challenge we face.
Because the large majority of people in this country for the past two generations have been programmed to believe things that are fundamentally not true.
And so they lack reasoning capability and all the facts they've been trained with, their AI, is all based on garbage.
So how do we do that?
And it's a two-generation-plus fight, and that's gotta be back to the schools.
You either gotta have kids out of the schools or you gotta have something else, but you have to be counter-programming, because we're not gonna deprogram.
We can give up.
Gen Z and the millennials are toast, right?
Those are, they're, sorry, but they're wasted generations.
There are outliers.
hannah claire brimelow
No, I think I'm the last year of millennial.
tim pool
How old are you?
unidentified
I'm 27.
hannah claire brimelow
You're supposed to ask women their age, Tim.
unidentified
Whatever.
jim hanson
See, all right, here's the thing.
I am the lead dog of Gen X.
My birthday is when Gen X started.
Trust me on this.
I lived the life.
Everything I did was Gen X. We invented all the crazy sports, all that stuff.
I lived it.
It's the last generation where we actually lived the American dream.
Where things are better than our parents.
Where we were taught reality.
All of those things.
That hasn't happened for Millennials or for Gen Z. Hear me out.
tim pool
What if we took all the Millennials, put them on a bunch of big boats, And then brought them to their own island and said, this is your country now.
jim hanson
It'll be perfect because you've been trained how to live a perfect life, right?
They've got the right programming for it.
phil labonte
What we should do is... Tim, are you making plans for Australia?
tim pool
I got an idea for a fundraiser.
hannah claire brimelow
I've always wanted to go to Australia.
tim pool
No, no, no, hear me out.
Let's do this.
Let's start a fundraiser for a communist utopia.
We'll buy an island, and then we'll tell all of the commies in the United States, you will get to live in your communist utopia, we've all pitched in our money together to make it, let's leave this horrible racist place, load up all the commies on a boat, bring them to the island, and say, good luck.
phil labonte
I'm down.
Speaking of communists, today is the anniversary of the death of Karl Marx.
tim pool
Is it a holiday?
phil labonte
It should be.
tim pool
I said that today.
unidentified
3-14?
phil labonte
That's Pi Day.
Pi Day is the anniversary of the death of Karl Marx.
tim pool
Wow.
jim hanson
You know, the reason they wouldn't get on the boats is because they already live in a communist paradise.
Why would they go anywhere?
hannah claire brimelow
Well, they want to tell them they're going on the TV show Love Island.
They will go.
tim pool
The interesting thing is, they don't want a communist utopia.
They just want to steal your stuff.
Because they could set up a commune wherever they wanted.
But they just want your stuff.
phil labonte
Communists are motivated by hate for the successful, not by actual care for other people.
unidentified
Correct.
phil labonte
They lie.
jim hanson
But true communism has never been tried.
phil labonte
That's because it's global and it'll never happen.
tim pool
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It is totally done?
And can people get access to it now or what?
unidentified
I have to speak to Andrew about that, but I'm pretty sure it's finished.
tim pool
I'll talk to him after the show.
Three tiers.
The lounge, everyone gets access to.
If you give $25 or more, you get access to the VIP suite where you get voice chat.
It's a special voice chat room.
Or, if you've been a member for at least six months, at $10 a month, you get access as well.
We did this because we want to prevent creeps and weirdos and far-left psychos from just coming in and screwing with the voice chat.
But we didn't want to make it Only mo- like, so, so, the idea is like, okay, what if you charge more so that way it's harder for him to do?
And it's like, yeah, but that's not fair to regular people.
Well then, what if you time gate?
It's like, well, then Antifa will just come- Do both.
We do both.
And then we're gonna do a special club, which is a hundred bucks a month for the, like, elite VIP room where our staff actually will be hanging out.
So if you're in the Elite Club, then you're actually hanging out in the room with members of our staff and things like that.
And people like Phil, who will be hanging out and talking about stuff.
phil labonte
Play guitar.
tim pool
Play guitar.
The idea for the Elite Club is... Look, obviously we want to make money because we want to be able to invest in the business, hire more people, and do more cool things.
But it's also just it is about gatekeeping to a certain degree.
Like we want to create a cool cultural space.
We don't want to lock people out who can't afford it.
We do want to make money.
So we're trying to find that middle ground and do cool things.
So I think we're ultimately going to do with the $100 a month package is have like at the at the physical location you'll have Unrestricted access to the upstairs private club room and something like that because we want to create culture and get people really active in doing all this stuff.
But we'll figure it out as we go.
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It should be up soon.
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Alright, ImNotYourBuddyGuy says, When I am weak, I appeal to your values.
When I am strong, I enforce mine.
There is no good ending to this story.
Oh yeah.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, Tim, your 4pm really spoke to how many of us feel.
We want hard action.
We're sick and tired of they-them pedoing the children and getting away with it.
I don't care if it hurts anyone's feelings.
Disgust.
That's what I'm saying, man.
Look, I get it.
I like that DeSantis revoked their liquor license.
I said I was really happy to read that headline.
Someone's doing something.
But how did we go from a society that would never allow it to now being like, well, we allow most of it, but this one time we took away a liquor license.
We got to have the police go in and arrest people who break the law.
That's it.
And if they didn't break the law, pass a law that says you can't do it.
It's Florida.
Come on.
All right, Poopa Chalupa, good name, says, DeSantis doesn't nearly go far enough.
What does the left do?
They ban a girl's basketball team for forfeiting against a team with a man on it.
Did you guys hear that?
Yeah, so do you know the gist of it?
hannah claire brimelow
Like, there are- They're competing at like states or some high level, and they said, we won't compete against this other school that has a male, female identifying player, and the team that wouldn't play got in trouble, which seems crazy to me.
Yep.
I guess they're being punished for being bigoted?
I think we've invited David a lot.
tim pool
All right, Max Reddick says, Tim, I know that you have known David Pakman for a long time.
Would you consider having him on IRL to press him on some of these issues?
I think we've invited David a lot.
I just think he hosts his own show, so it's hard for him to do that.
Like, you know, people gotta understand, I got nothing against David or Hassan or Cenk
Uygur when they're like not coming on the show because they host their own shows.
As for some other personalities who said, I will go on your show, and then privately were like, psych, I'm not doing it, and then dragged me on the internet for clicks and stuff, yeah, those people are evil scumbags.
But as for the other people who are like, sorry man, look, I host my own show Monday through Friday, I don't really have time to do this, I go, you know what, you're right because neither do I, I'm not gonna hold it against you.
That being said, I'd love to have David Pakman on.
I believe we're actually trying to get Kyle Kalinske on.
I need to message him again, because he's... I think Kyle's fantastic and honest, and he has expressed interest in coming on before.
I've talked to him a bit, so that would be really cool.
It'd be cool to actually have him and Crystal, because I think they're both great.
And I think they are more likely to understand what we're talking about.
But I think Destiny's coming on soon, and I think TJ Kirk as well.
Yeah, so we're trying to fit everybody in.
We're very, very jammed with the schedule.
I think the amazing Atheist, we're trying to get on like beginning of April or something.
And I think he's gonna be a funny guy.
I think he'll be a good show.
He's rambunctious and he insults me on Twitter, but I think it'll be interesting in the conversation.
phil labonte
Isn't that his thing though?
He insults everybody on Twitter.
I don't think I've ever seen him be nice to anyone.
tim pool
But it's like he's not, it's...
It's sillier than that, you know what I mean?
Like, it's an edgy kind of, you know, it's not an angry, vile, like, attack.
It's more of a sassy, edgy, boy kind of thing.
phil labonte
He was just on with Sitch and Adam, and they do a podcast, and he was, like, totally nice during the time that he was on, and then after he got off, he was, like, dogging him out.
He wasn't being super mean or anything, but he was, like, poking at him.
tim pool
I think Destiny's great.
You know, the omni-liberal, I think, is whatever.
We've had him before.
I disagree with him on some things.
But he's a good dude.
He'll come in here, he'll talk to you, and he'll make an argument, and he knows what he's talking about.
He's not full of it.
So that'll be fun too.
All right, Amtru13 says, yeah, only night I get to watch live.
That PragerU video was awesome.
Share it!
I finally did a PragerU video.
I think I actually have two.
Like, one just came out.
I think we worked on two of them.
But if you did like it, or if you didn't see it, you should check it out.
And it's about lying liars.
And it's like, I ask how many times does someone have to lie to you before you will call them a liar.
And it's about the corporate press and things like that.
So you should definitely share that if you really do like it.
Because I think it's a message people need to hear.
As I rag on the media incessantly.
Alright, where are we at?
What is this?
Olivia Claire says, Etsy finally paid me.
So hopefully other creators are getting paid.
Made lots of sales today too, but I'm still worried about the next few months.
Yeah, how's it been, Olivia, for business?
Because, like I've been saying, our ad rates have gone down, and so that's why I'm really pushing, like, memberships.
Because ad rates are volatile, and if... In 2020, we were solely an ad-based show.
Like, it was just YouTube ads.
And we did really, really well.
And then I thought to myself, like, hey, this is a really stupid idea, because if sponsors get pulled, we're out of business.
So we launched the website, shift a heavy focus into, sign up to become a member, because if you guys pay $10 a month, if one person pays $10 a month, that one, that, you know, once a month, We could lose all of our ads, based on how many members we have, and still operate the company.
And so, with the activists trying to get ads pulled, and constantly threatening people, and with the ad market taking serious hits, then we need members.
The more members we have, the less worried we are about censorship, the less worried we are about the ad rates collapsing.
That being said, when we see ad rates go down, usually means y'all are hurting too, so, you know, do what you can.
I just put it simply this way.
If there's anything you could do, if you don't feel like doing anything else, if you don't
want to speak up at work because you're worried about losing your job, become a member at
TimCast.com.
It's 10 bucks a month, and at the very least, you're helping us do shows like this, and more people are learning about this stuff.
But do you, you know?
I can be a harder salesperson, but I wanna be real with you guys.
So, let's read some more Super Chats.
Patriot American says, Tim, I knew there's a subway beneath the Capitol.
It's for emergency evacuations.
They touched upon it in XXX State of the Union starring Ice Cube.
Ah, a classic.
jim hanson
It's also for people like Jerry Nadler who can't walk the hundred yards between buildings.
phil labonte
He looks like a hundred pounds of cow manure put into a fifty pound bag.
He looks awful.
jim hanson
Talking about ad rates for just a quick second, one of the few bipartisan issues right now in Congress is actually attacking Facebook and Google's domination of online ads.
And I would actually want to, I hope they do something.
You know, wouldn't that be nice if they stopped the monopoly that's squashing Yeah, but the issue with the ad business, it's because they're easier to use.
tim pool
Because Google and Facebook own so much.
It's not so much that they're shutting down the competition, it's just... No, they're doing it antitrust.
jim hanson
They're not doing it based on content.
So it's not got anything to do with Section 230 and the rest of it.
They're actually talking about they have a monopoly on it.
tim pool
But you can't do anything about it.
jim hanson
You can't.
What can you do?
There are antitrust torts.
tim pool
What will that do?
jim hanson
They can break up, force them to sell off part of their ad business.
There's ways they can say, you have too much of this market, and that's existing legislation.
tim pool
If they sell off their ad business, what does the ad business become?
jim hanson
Well, they'd have to break it up, sell it to multiple companies, right?
And then you've got a situation where they start competing against each other.
Because right now, you know, you've got Facebook and Google controls somewhere 75% to 80%.
tim pool
That will lower the ad rates.
jim hanson
If they're competing against each other for content, not the other way around.
You need eyeballs to serve ads on.
Google and Facebook now have all the eyeballs.
tim pool
And then what'll happen is you're gonna get a combination of two things.
The various ad companies, I do think it would probably be a net positive if advertising was ripped from Google as a company and became an independent company, or several, and a bunch of ad agencies had to compete.
And then likely what would end up happening is, let's say Google Ads becomes company A, B, and C.
Company A will go to a channel like mine and say, we want an exclusivity deal with you.
We'll give you X percent for X amount of time.
And then that will likely give me a better rate.
The problem is, they'll say, we're going to give you 75% of all the ad revenue because YouTube only does 65.
For bigger channels, I think it is 75.
But then company B will be like, hold on there, buddy.
We'll give you 85.
And then company C says, we'll do 95.
And here's the worst part.
Those ad agencies then compete against each other for the companies.
And so when Coca-Cola comes to the ad agencies and says, who can get me the cheapest deal per views?
They go, I'll give you a million views for a dollar.
And then they go, you got it.
And then they walk up to you and go, we got you the deal.
Here's your 95 cents.
jim hanson
I don't think anything you're saying is wrong.
However, when there is competition, right now there's none.
And so you've just got Facebook and Google making the decisions for everybody.
At least you've got the option of negotiating with somebody other than them cornering the market and driving the price down because they make those deals.
tim pool
There's two negotiating phases.
Content producer and the ad agency, and then the ad agency and the ad buyers.
And the problem is, what works for us right now is that YouTube basically has an auction system where anybody who comes in can place a bid on how much they want to spend for an ad to appear on this content.
So obviously Coca-Cola can spend more than a smaller cola company.
Like, RC Cola ain't spending those Coca-Cola dollars.
That means a Coke ad is more likely to appear.
That means I get a lot more money, because Coke knows all of these other channels will... This guy's gonna spend a dollar, he'll spend two, he'll spend three, I have to spend four, otherwise I don't get the ad.
Then I get four dollars.
You break it all up, the inverse happens.
Coca-Cola goes to the ad agency and says, what's your rate?
Four bucks?
No way.
I'm gonna give a billion dollars to this company because they're getting me in at a dollar.
And then my ad rates drop by 90%.
So there's an advantage right now to everything being done through a centralized auction market.
jim hanson
I can understand that.
I think there is a couple of things like that.
But it does empower Google.
Well, it also, the people who are pushing for that are representing content producers.
So it's not like their goal is to make the ad rates drop.
tim pool
Alright, let's read some more.
We got Kenneth Hardy says, Dear Tim, I'm sick of war.
My last friend from enlisting post 9-11 died yesterday.
We were all so eager for revenge.
I hate war.
I hate violence.
I hate that we got so very good at it and stopped caring about the human cost.
I am one such big sad.
Sorry to hear it, man.
I also believe war is very, very bad.
Very bad.
Josh says, Tim and Cassandra, check out Mostly Peaceful Latinas, two super-based women who are doing real conservative work in Florida.
Would love to see them on IRL.
I'll write that down.
What is that one?
Mostly... Peaceful Latinas?
There we go.
I'll take a look.
Alright, what do we got here?
Korek57 says, Tim, some of these people are already registered sex offenders.
Fair point.
Jackhammer says that liquor license can easily be worth $250,000 in Miami, so this wasn't a slap on the wrist.
I understand that.
And it's a Hyatt.
It's a very large business.
But their principal business is going to be staying in a hotel room.
Now don't get me wrong, there may be some guy who's like, let's get a hotel in Miami.
What do you mean there's no liquor license?
Get a different hotel, honey.
I don't wanna go to a place that has no bar.
The reality is, I don't think most people are thinking about that.
I used to travel for work all the time, and we'd go to the bar sometimes.
And if the bar was like, sorry, we're closed, we'd go, K, and we'd go somewhere else.
Like we didn't think twice, we don't care.
And to be honest, if you're on vacation, you're not going on vacation to go to the Hyatt's Bar.
You're going on vacation to go to the fancy little Miami Beach Club where they've got fancy little Miami Beach drinks.
jim hanson
90% of the bar business for those people is Joe Businessman during the week.
tim pool
Yeah.
Yeah.
And a lot of people who stay will go downstairs and sit at the bar with their buddies on a business trip.
So it's bad for them.
They'll lose money.
But I think the average person who's traveling for work will sit at the bar and have a soda and some wings with their friend and be like, can I get a beer, but you don't have any but.
Okay, I guess.
People aren't going to know their liquor license got pulled.
They're still gonna keep buying the rooms.
The only difference is when they go downstairs, they tell their buddy, let's go downstairs and grab lunch real quick at the restaurant.
They'll sit down and say, I'll get the burger, french fries, make it sweet potato fries, give me some of that cheese dipping sauce, and I'll get a Corona.
What do you mean you don't have Corona?
All right, give me a Diet Coke.
That's what'll happen.
That's the only thing that's happened.
That's what Ron DeSantis did.
So, okay, I guess.
All right, let's grab some more.
phil labonte
All right.
tim pool
Dalimar says, it is 100% the moms bringing their literal pre-tweens to these events.
They are on Facebook bragging about it and getting zero pushback from other moms.
phil labonte
I heard someone say something.
I don't remember where it was.
It was on some podcast and it was, or maybe it was a meme or something, but it was something like, why do you think every religion ever has severely restricted the autonomy of women?
I died laughing.
tim pool
It's a good question.
hannah claire brimelow
Where are their husbands and dads in this scenario?
tim pool
Well, if you look at married women, they don't have any of these issues.
I think there's a correlation between millennial and Gen Z liberal men and women.
They have really, really high rates of mental illness.
So I think that's the issue.
Unfortunately, because if you look at conservative unmarried millennial and Gen Z women, they don't have these issues either.
But maybe it's they are the joker ideology that attracts the broken and dejected, and that's why you get it.
jim hanson
And it's the reinforcement.
You know, you don't get shamed for doing that.
You get reinforced and your virtue signaling gets you points.
tim pool
All right, Veldren Olis says, hey Tim and crew, my wife of 14 years died three weeks ago tomorrow at the age of 34, and your content has been instrumental in helping me get through these rough times.
Thank you and never give up.
Very sorry to hear it, man.
Sincerest apologies.
I hope everything's going well in spite of this, you know, and you're doing what you can.
And thank you for listening to the show, and I'm glad we can be something that helps you.
Yeah, best wishes.
We're just a group of people who complain on the internet about our feelings.
phil labonte
Condolences.
tim pool
Yeah, condolences.
phil labonte
Alright, what do we got?
tim pool
Here we go.
The downstream says, hey guys, big fan.
Might be late to the party or not related to today's topics, but Tim or Ian might find it coincidental, like I did, that Barney Frank, aka the Rolla Dice Guy, is a sitting board member at Signature Bank.
jim hanson
Odd.
tim pool
Very interesting.
phil labonte
He was making a lot of comments about the solvency or he was saying that the bank actually wasn't insolvent and that was lending, I guess, support to the argument that this was an intentional move by the government to push back crypto.
tim pool
Hey, I got an easy one here.
HunterKiller86 says, Tim, are we going to also ban GWAR or Rammstein shows because they show sex acts too?
No, we don't let children go to them.
Because this is the weirdest thing.
This is why I think a comment like this comes from someone who doesn't actually watch the show.
They watched The Young Turks, then came here, commented, and then left.
Because the first thing I said was, and I say it all the time, I don't care about drag shows.
If you want to have a drag show, I'll show up and I'll smile and laugh and high five with all my friends and beg.
What a funny show.
No kids though.
unidentified
No kids.
tim pool
That simple.
That's why I said like, I'll, I'll, I'll, you know, inexpensive to do.
And I was like, I'll do it.
You want me to do it?
I'll put in a big drag show.
We'll have free food and drinks.
21 and up, obviously.
And then you can have your drag show.
And then strangely, None of them took me up on the offer.
I wonder why it is that not one of these people wanted to have a drag show that was only for adults.
phil labonte
Because drag shows suck without kids, apparently.
tim pool
For these people, as soon as I said no kids, they were like, well, yeah, I don't know about that.
jim hanson
What a twisted thought.
phil labonte
I mean, that's the way they are.
hannah claire brimelow
It's only fun if you bring minors into it.
jim hanson
I mean, first of all, no one wants to watch them dance.
When they were at least singing ABBA tunes, you know, we got Dancing Queen.
All right, which I dig.
That's one of my favorite songs.
tim pool
It's a good song.
jim hanson
It is a great song.
But now, what do you get?
You get gyrating men dressed in women stripper clothes.
tim pool
It's kink shows.
hannah claire brimelow
I always feel bad when the media says, like, DeSantis is attacking LGBTQ people.
Like, I feel like most of those letters are like, leave us out of it.
We do not want minors at our, you know, 21 and up bar.
It seems weird that this is the issue they're lumping everyone on.
jim hanson
I started talking about normal gay people.
Right, the normal gays are sick of the freaks.
tim pool
Well, that's why you have gays against groomers.
So the LGBT community has been fighting for a very, very long time just to live their lives.
And then along came the Q portion, the Q+, and now you have a very, very strange plethora of ideologies that don't connect in any way.
So the interesting thing is, A lot of the activists that I know said they're not sure how LGB and T go together, but they're willing to be a part of this fight because there is some overlap in how someone perceives a sexuality versus identity.
But then when it got to the Q+, now you have like non-binary two-spirit, they-them, Nightmare Two-spirit makes it purely obvious that it's a religion.
Right.
phil labonte
Like, that is undeniable.
tim pool
Like, many of these people were secular atheists, but now they believe in spirits.
Or they're like, we respect people who believe in spirits.
phil labonte
I don't.
Sorry.
tim pool
So the issue is...
Yeah, there's gays against groomers, and they're being called homophobic and transphobic, when they're literally gay and trans and bi and lesbian and all that stuff.
jim hanson
It goes back to the, are you live and let live, or are you forcing people to celebrate your freakishness?
And right now, the freaks are winning.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
All right, let's read some more.
What do we got here?
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, if no U.S.
intervention, I got 20 on Russia.
jim hanson
I'm not taking that bet.
tim pool
You don't think Russia would win if the U.S.
unidentified
won?
jim hanson
No, I think that if I'm with him.
tim pool
Oh, right, right, right, right.
No, exactly.
Yeah, as soon as the U.S.
jim hanson
removes... Which means anyone who's saying Zelensky won't come to the table is full of it.
And Putin will come to the table, even though they both will say they won't, until somebody makes him.
And we both have, we have the ability to do that, we just won't.
tim pool
NormiesGetOut says, Terry Crews is on some sort of PR campaign doing appearances as President Camacho.
I wonder if they're planning a sequel.
Yeah, I saw that.
jim hanson
Aren't we living that?
Isn't this the sequel?
hannah claire brimelow
This is what we're in.
tim pool
We had talked with Mike Judge a while back about coming on the show and talking about all the stuff with like, you know, idiocracy in mind.
And I should reach out to him because we're doing Friday mornings, we're doing the Culture War podcast, which is more conversational, less news driven.
And I think that'd be great to have him on that and we can just talk about all this stuff.
It'd be good fun.
unidentified
Yeah, it'd be good.
tim pool
Yeah, a lot of people... We had Damien Echols of the West Memphis Three last Friday.
A lot of people who would love to sit down and have a conversation don't want to come on a political, cultural, commentary show because, like, you want me to talk about what?
And it's like, well, there was a bank collapse.
Like, bro, I write comic books.
jim hanson
It's like, okay, well, you know... Wait, you don't have a hot take on that, man?
What's wrong with you?
tim pool
So mostly we have political commentators, politicians, and activists who come on this show.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, Tim, hi, it's Raymond.
I'm a regular here.
My dude, for my birthday, can you please say, where is she?
unidentified
Where is she?
tim pool
It's your birthday, dude?
Happy birthday.
There you go.
You know the line, right?
From AOC?
AOC said that she heard a knock on our door and she went and hid in the bathroom.
Oh, when they were attacking her?
Alright, alright, yeah.
jim hanson
Blocks away.
Just two buildings away.
tim pool
away. An hour before the building was breached. She was psychic and she saw a vision of the future.
Her eyes turned white and she saw them an hour later storming the Capitol. Then when she heard
the knock she goes, it must have happened sooner than my premonition. Or she's made the whole thing
up because she lies.
How about that?
jim hanson
She got a note from Charlotte telling her about it.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, Charlotte warned her.
tim pool
Dear AOC, the insurrectionists are coming.
Hide.
unidentified
She's so full of it.
jim hanson
Love Charlotte.
hannah claire brimelow
Classic Charlotte.
Her crazy G's.
What is this girl doing?
tim pool
Alright, where are we at?
Let's get some more Super Chats.
Joel Xline says, I'm 30 minutes behind and I just heard the guest say the U.S.
didn't blow up the Nord Stream.
LOL, I'm guessing he didn't read Say's substack.
We 100% did.
jim hanson
No.
tim pool
They equip Ukrainians and then go, oh look, the Ukrainians are doing that thing that we wanted them to do with our equipment and tools.
jim hanson
I'm still, I'll be honest, I'm still not convinced it was at a Biden level of approval.
I think the Ukrainians did it with our money.
Well, what is, fair point.
But I think the Ukrainians did it with our money because they were afraid people were
going to lose their focus on his war and he needed something to scare Europe and everybody
else about the energy.
So I think it was more Zelensky.
I think if he was smart, he did it.
And then everybody said, oops.
phil labonte
I heard that that pipeline is encased in, like, it's surrounded by, like, three inches of concrete.
I don't know.
I'm just repeating stuff that I read.
tim pool
It was a legitimate detonation.
phil labonte
But that's a serious pipeline to be blowing up if it's surrounded by concrete.
tim pool
Miguel Rivera says, Tim, most schools don't teach cursive anymore anyways.
That's what you were saying, right?
So how is there that cursive G in there?
jim hanson
Because wine moms, when they were younger, were taught cursing.
tim pool
Yep, because maybe what actually happened is a 40-year-old woman... Look, I wouldn't be surprised if a 40-year-old woman wrote the letter and sent it in and said, no, everyone's going to think... Because this is what these crackpot psychopaths do.
Look, man, I'm at my wit's end with this stuff.
I was watching that interview, clip of it, from the Osundiro brothers.
Is that what their names were?
The Justice Millette guys?
jim hanson
That's so good.
tim pool
And this is the left.
They just lie about everything.
They're like, my son came in today and said, Daddy, why aren't we supporting Ukraine?
Russia is basically like World War II Germany.
And if we don't stop it now, Biden will be this generation's Neville Chamberlain.
And I said to my son, that's a deep question, son.
We high five and everyone clapped.
That's what they do all the time.
They post these ridiculous garbled pieces of garbage that never happened, but they are all stupid enough and believe each other or at least pretend to.
phil labonte
I'm sick of it!
There's a lot of people on the left, specifically the people that are like the thought leaders, that believe that the truth is downstream from power.
They believe that if you articulate things and you believe it enough, that that's enough to make it reality.
Which is part of why the left is where the trans ideology lives.
Because they believe if you say it, that the truth is downstream from power.
So if you say it and act it out, then it becomes true.
Which is insane!
jim hanson
Well, add projection in, which, you know, if you look at all the fake hate crimes, you know, they're like, oh, wait a minute, I'm scared of black people.
Someone would probably put a noose in here because they hate black people.
So you add all those in, projection and the ability to make reality out of the fantasies in your own mind, and ta-da, that's woke ideology.
unidentified
It's a themstery.
tim pool
I am Pandisis says, Hyatt's do a lot of weddings.
They lose almost all of their function hall revenue.
Fair point.
That I do agree with.
jim hanson
You're not going to a dry wedding, nobody is.
tim pool
That's right.
Yeah, nobody's going to do that.
But I still think it's like a tiny, a single digit percentage, if at most, because I was saying a fraction of a percentage before, single digit percentage then.
So they're probably going like, ugh.
I'm gonna get you a SWAT raid in Florida, dude.
the Hyatt Corporation that's worth tens of billions or more, hundreds of billions,
is probably being like, get the corporate lawyers to make a phone call, we'll get
this reversed in a week when the news dies down and then no one will bat an eye.
jim hanson
I'm gonna get you a SWAT raid in Florida, dude, it is my goal. Well we don't
tim pool
need SWAT. We need one overweight state trooper to walk up real slow and go,
unidentified
you're the manager of this establishment.
tim pool
Why don't you turn around and put your hands behind your back.
phil labonte
Do not give them drag floor.
tim pool
That's it.
That's it.
And then the manager gets arrested.
And he goes, hey, you're putting on a sex show for kids.
unidentified
You're under arrest.
tim pool
And your rights remain silent.
And that's it.
All right.
One portly fella.
Ain't nobody's running.
Nobody's fighting.
You don't need a SWAT team.
jim hanson
I just, the idea, I wanted tear gas and drag queens, man, for some reason that to me was going to be just a genius idea.
tim pool
Only, I mean, if you're talking about people who are violent, but if we're talking about making an arrest, we just need one cop to walk up and just, and you don't even need cuffs.
jim hanson
Jackie, get in the car.
We're going to the station.
hannah claire brimelow
Why can't we just have drag queens, like, vow not to perform in front of children?
Like, I don't understand why they're not publicly volunteering.
Because the drag queens don't want to do that.
unidentified
I know they don't.
tim pool
No, but that's not even fair because there's a lot of drag queens who have been complaining about it.
There was a viral video on Twitter of a drag queen being like, why are people bringing kids to this stuff?
We're trying to do an adult show here.
But then the creepy pedos are pretending that they're, it's all just, they're using the LGBT community as a mask for their grooming.
And the issue is the media is protecting them.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Well, you know what we're going to do?
We're going to go to the members-only show.
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You click it and you can watch the after show live.
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So, again, that'll be up in about 10 minutes.
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Jim, do you want to shout anything out?
jim hanson
At Jim Hansen DC and my awesome how-to book, Get Based, and you will end up leaning back on a jaguar and looking cool like I was.
tim pool
Oh, there you go.
phil labonte
I am Phil Labonte, lead singer of All That Remains.
I'm PhilThatRemains on Twitter.
I am PhilThatRemainsOfficial on Instagram.
Give me a follow and we can poop on the commies.
hannah claire brimelow
Hey, I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.
You should follow at TimCastNews on Instagram and Twitter.
It's where you can see work from me and all of our other journalists.
You can follow me personally on Twitter at hcbrimlow.
And you can follow me on Instagram at hannahclaire.b.
There are some fake accounts floating around.
I'm not hannahclaire.bb.
I'm not hannahclaire.b1.
Those are fake.
Don't follow them.
They'll send you weird advice about crypto.
I don't give out advice about crypto.
Okay, thanks.
Have a good night.
unidentified
And that sucks.
I know how to be impersonated.
I am at Surge.com.
Yeah, that was fun.
Thanks for coming, Jim.
It's been a pleasure chatting.
Appreciate it, man.
jim hanson
At Surge.com, that's way too simple.
unidentified
Yeah.
People struggle finding it.
tim pool
I think it's cool.
unidentified
It's S-E-R-G-E-D-O-T-C-O-M.
It's pretty simple, guys.
tim pool
All right, everybody.
We will see you all over at TimCast.com in about five or ten minutes.
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