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July 7, 2022 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - Dutch Cops FIRE ON Farmers, Global Agenda COLLAPSING, Biden SELLS Out US w/Kari Lake
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so it's getting crazy over in the Netherlands These farmers are protesting because the government's putting restrictions on farming.
In a video going viral, in a story that's going viral, police officers opened fire on one of the farmers as they were protesting.
And you combine this story, I mean Boris Johnson resigning is partly involved, but the Georgia Guidestones being knocked over.
You look at what's going on around you and it feels like the Liberal economic order, or the liberal world order, as these establishment uniparty elites like to call it, it's collapsing.
They're failing.
I'll tell you one thing right away, so you can understand the Netherlands' story with the farmers.
We're being told two things at once.
That Ukraine is the breadbasket of Europe and they can't produce food because of the war with Russia.
And we're not getting fertilizer because of the war with Russia.
So there's going to be a global famine coming.
At the same time, they're going to farmers in the Netherlands saying, stop producing food.
Now, how does that make sense?
Something does not add up.
So this story is actually fairly big.
We'll talk about that too.
We also have Bill Gates in the news rather consistently over the past several weeks because he's buying up a ton of farmland.
I have to wonder about that.
And then we have, oh man, I hate to say it, but a video of Hunter Biden apparently smoking crack has been published.
And he's doing other things that I can't say because they're not family friendly, and he filmed himself doing it.
And all of this is reflecting on his dad, who's giving him money to fund a lot of this stuff.
That's what we're learning now.
And for some reason, these NeverTrumpers are acting like Ron DeSantis is the bigger threat.
It's really interesting, isn't it?
So we'll talk about all that.
Plus, we're going to talk a lot about what's going on at the southern border.
Texas is going to be taking a lot of illegal immigrants, sending them back to the border.
And in Arizona, well, in Arizona, they want the governor to declare an invasion is occurring.
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Without further ado, joining us to talk about everything happening in the news, as well as Arizona, is gubernatorial candidate Carrie Lake.
kari lake
It's good to be back.
Thanks for having me, Tim.
tim pool
Do you want to introduce yourself?
kari lake
Yeah, I am an Arizonan.
I've lived in Arizona since 1994.
I drove out there as a young 20-something journalist to cover the great state of Arizona.
I covered it for 27 years.
And then during COVID, as a number one news anchor and journalist in the state, I decided that I was going to walk away from my career because I no longer felt that I could tell the full truth.
And when I did that, an amazing thing happened.
The people of Arizona reached out.
I put a video out, of course, and said, hey, I'm leaving.
This is why.
And they reached out and said, would you please consider running for office?
We need somebody we can trust.
tim pool
That's amazing.
kari lake
So I was kind of recruited to run for governor and we threw our hat in the ring last June, a year ago June, and we've been number one in the polls since then and now we are officially in election month because we don't have election day in Arizona.
So we're in the primary election right now and we're doing quite well in the polls.
We've been ahead the entire time and we are pushing to bring an America First candidate, Trump-endorsed candidate, into the governor's office in Arizona to turn things around and secure our border.
tim pool
I like the gun stuff.
kari lake
And the gun stuff.
Fighting for gun rights.
We're already a great gun state.
I mean, if you want your Second Amendment rights intact, come to Arizona.
We're even ahead of Texas.
But we're always at risk of losing them when we have maniacs in the White House who are trying to take them away.
tim pool
I'm looking forward to talking about how the media's been smearing you, too, because a lot of people get smeared by the media but don't have decades of media experience.
So it'll be interesting to see, you know, to talk to you about that.
So we'll get into all that stuff.
Thank you for joining us.
unidentified
Awesome.
kari lake
Thanks for being here.
For having me, actually.
tim pool
Yes.
kari lake
And for being here.
Thank you for being here.
tim pool
We also have Mary Morgan.
mary morgan
Happy to be back.
You're putting up with me, Tim.
kari lake
Yeah.
mary morgan
I'm Mary.
I'm the co-host of Pop Culture Crisis on YouTube.
We cover more light-hearted stuff on there.
Things about celebrities, movies, TV shows, all the drama.
And when you Super Chat, you can shoot money at us, so go check it out.
tim pool
Yeah, there's money guns that when the Super Chats come in, it sprays money into the air.
Yeah.
All right.
ian crossland
Hi, everyone.
Ian Crossland in the house.
Good to see you.
Carrie, I'm glad you're back.
Haven't seen you for like a year almost.
unidentified
A little less than a year.
kari lake
You haven't been following our campaign?
ian crossland
Oh, I have been.
I saw a video of you talking to, I think it was a CNN reporter trying to get an interview.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
That was great.
ian crossland
It was so funny.
unidentified
I mean, you were just so direct and like, Like, yeah, I'll talk to you.
kari lake
Sure.
Put it on CNN plus and then we'll talk.
ian crossland
Yeah, it was fantastic.
It's nice to see you in your element.
kari lake
Yes, that was fun.
ian crossland
Great to see you again.
And the shirt that I have a Carrie Lake shirt.
It's the best material, like most comfortable material on my shirts.
kari lake
I call it day to night shirt.
You can wear it all day and then you can sleep in it.
ian crossland
Yeah.
kari lake
If you don't want to like, you know, put your pajamas on.
ian crossland
Are you selling those?
kari lake
We do sell those, and yeah, but I think we can get you one.
We can get you a deal on one.
ian crossland
Let's talk.
kari lake
What color do you need?
ian crossland
I like the purple one.
Well, I have one.
Maybe we can diversify.
kari lake
We'll talk after the show.
lydia smith
Thanks, you guys, for caring.
kari lake
Go to our website, by the way.
lydia smith
Sorry, I didn't mean to.
ian crossland
What is the website?
kari lake
KariLake.com.
K-A-R-I-L-A-K-E slash shop.
lydia smith
I'm so delighted that you're back.
I'm excited to hear what's going on in your campaign.
I saw a few of your ads and your video with that CNN reporter definitely will put you back on my radar.
kari lake
It's good to see you again, Lydia.
tim pool
Well, before we get into all the domestic stuff, let's talk about what's going on with this global agenda.
We have this story.
This is a really freaky story from TimCast.com.
Dutch government shoots live rounds at farmers protesting mandates.
Lawmakers enacted restrictive laws to combat climate change.
Dutch police opened fire using live ammunition against farmers protesting the government's mandatory restrictions and closure of some farms to meet climate goals set by the European Union.
This is really fascinating.
We got tons of tweets here.
I'll break this, uh, breaking this down.
Shots fired.
Police said the tractor drivers attempted to drive into officers and service vehicles.
I gotta say, if you watch the video, that's not true.
It's a tractor that just drives around like it pulls out what's going going down the road and then a cop just Fires at him the tractors don't go that fast, right?
It's like Austin Powers, you know, you guys remember that scene with the steamroller?
Yeah, the steamrollers like Here's the here's what's really really crazy about this.
So in the context of the Georgia Guidestones being blown up we I can't say too much because we have some journalists investigating this, but let me just say that there are some sources involved who say it appears to be a politically motivated attack.
Obviously, someone went and blew up the Georgia Guidestones, what they call the monument to globalism.
But let me make this point.
We have a fertilizer shortage because of the war with Russia and Ukraine.
We have Russia and Ukraine reducing their exports of food to neighboring nations, which is supposed to cause a global famine.
And at the same time, as we're being warned about all this, at the same time we're hearing, you know, Germany and other countries panicking over a lack of fuel.
European nations are telling their farmers to stop farming.
Here's the crazier thing.
We're being told we're going to get hit by rising food costs, a lower crop yield, and potential food shortages in the United States.
And we're even hearing from people in the industry, they're chatting us, saying farmers in the U.S.
are still being paid not to farm.
So what is going on with all this?
kari lake
And you forgot to mention all the food processing plants that are burning down.
The news isn't covering.
tim pool
Well, so I mean, they're covering it.
It's just not in the mainstream national cycle.
Now, I will say to that point, we've questioned whether or not it's abnormal, the amount of fires.
And so we got these fact checkers came after us and they were like, Tim Kast published fake news claiming that all these fires were happening.
And our article was bad.
Don't get me wrong.
Like we had some errors.
That's true.
But We did some digging and it looks like it's slightly above average, the amount of fires.
kari lake
That's normal?
I saw the list.
It went on and on and on.
I'm like, wow.
And this, I really haven't seen much on it.
tim pool
So there's, there's, you know, what, tens of thousands of warehouses, tens of thousands of factories, fires happen.
What we gotta be careful of is sometimes like a car crash happens near a building and then people are like, oh, what was this?
But what I can say is even on that story, it does look like there are more, there's more fires than there have been over the past few years by a small amount.
So take it for what it is.
Either way, I'll say this.
These fires are a news story because we're being told there's going to be a food shortage.
More importantly, if these fires are happening and they are normal, isn't that grounds to tell farmers to pick up production?
kari lake
Yeah, start producing.
We have the same thing because of water issues in Arizona.
There's a lot of fields that are fallow that you're just not putting any, you know, you're not planting.
And there's obviously a concern.
You know, we talk about water issues in Arizona, but I say if we keep handling water issues with more restrictions, restrictions, we hurt the farming and then we have a food shortage.
And it sounds like they're setting us up for a food shortage.
tim pool
Amazingly.
kari lake
Why would you tell farmers not to farm?
ian crossland
Is it because they don't have transport to get the food out and they don't want rotten food?
tim pool
But that's incumbent upon the farmers to figure out, not the government, to come in and prevent.
kari lake
You know, farmers are so busy that they don't mess around.
I'm from Iowa, which is an agricultural state originally, and if you've got farmers protesting and spending days and nights doing this, you've really pissed off the wrong people.
tim pool
Well, so we can talk about fallowing fields and all that stuff and government paying farmers not to farm, but in the Netherlands, why are they telling... This is about climate change.
They're telling these farmers to reduce emissions and things like that because of climate goals.
Do they not suspend these things when they're like, hey, a global famine is coming and Europe is going to starve because Ukraine's being invaded by Russia?
This makes literally no sense.
And then to see that the police open fire on them, it just reeks of...
The global agenda is collapsing.
It's a climate change agenda.
That's what they're doing.
Joe Biden has said he was campaigning, we're going to get off fossil fuels.
Now what happens?
He's shutting down oil and gas leases.
He's banning fracking and other oil leases on public lands.
And we just found out Joe Biden Allowed five million barrels of our strategic reserves to
be exported this country to China of all places Not just but Europe and Asia as well
Something doesn't make sense with what they're doing and you look at you look at all this stuff and it really does
feel like like It just Joe Biden's crooked as they come. Mm-hmm. Oh, I
kari lake
mean, that's a fact We've known about this for a while
You look at the laptop, you see everything that's on that laptop, and you see evidence of dealings with our enemies, financial dealings.
That should have been told, by the way, before the election, but we'll save that for another day.
He never puts America first.
tim pool
No, it's more like Biden family first.
kari lake
Biden family first, his friends in China first, his friends in Ukraine.
You know, $58 billion of our taxpayer money has gone to Ukraine.
And we have a crisis at the border.
I mean, we've got families who are struggling.
They can't make ends meet.
They can't afford their groceries.
They can't afford to put gas in their car.
And we're sending our hard-earned money to Ukraine.
This is insane.
And then you add, on top of it, the left pushing these environmental mandates on us to the point of trying to — I don't know what the point is, actually.
Are we trying to save other animals by hurting the human race?
tim pool
I kind of feel like — you know, you see these posts from Democrats when the Ukraine war kicked off, and they were saying things like, $4 a gallon is the price to pay to see Ukraine be free and things like that.
You had Joe Biden say gas prices will remain high as long as it takes for Ukraine to win.
I encourage all of the Democrats to run that slogan in November and in 2024.
So when the voter walks up at the gas pump and they're picking up the gas pump and looking at the five bucks a gallon and then those little TVs play and it'll be like breaking news Joe Biden says you got to pay for Ukraine.
Keep saying it.
Keep saying it and see if you win.
kari lake
And didn't one of his advisors say the gas prices are going to remain high until we get the liberal world order?
tim pool
Oh yeah, he said it.
What did he say specifically?
ian crossland
Sure, yeah.
mary morgan
It was like the liberal economic order or something?
tim pool
Liberal world order, I think he said.
ian crossland
Yeah, he said liberal world order.
And he was basically like, we're going to suffer in America because we need to prop up the liberal world order.
kari lake
Which is the decimation of America.
Which is the decimation of the middle class, the working class.
They've been working at this for a generation now and it started back in the, I think it started back in the 80s when they started closing up the manufacturing and the political elite sold out our companies to China.
ian crossland
It was in 1946 is when it began.
They started the liberal economic order in 1946 to prevent World War III.
They were like, we need to set up a world police and Eisenhower warned us about it.
He's like, yo, this military industrial complex, he called it, but They used American military as the tip of the spear, and then now they're using the American economy with the Federal Reserve.
They're making it print a bunch of money to prop up all this militant activity to prevent World War III.
It did work for the time, but I don't think we need it anymore, personally.
Although maybe we do, because we have things like BRICS, which is like China, Russia, India, that have their own kind of economic order.
tim pool
It's an acronym for the countries.
Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa.
Yep.
So it's really easy to remember.
ian crossland
And it's like one or the other.
I don't know.
kari lake
If there isn't some sort of global militant standard, then maybe... I'm starting to think that Biden is more loyal to BRICS than us.
tim pool
Well, so I have it from Newsweek.
It was Biden advisor Brian Deese saying, this is about the future of the liberal world order, and we have to stand firm.
Here's what's amazing.
Ten years ago, if you were to bring up something like that, you were a crackpot.
If you said... Isn't this so amazing?
If you came out and said, there are global elites orchestrating what's happening around the world for their special interests, they called you a crackpot.
Now they come out on TV and say it.
They just go on CNN and say, this is what we're doing.
Here's the best part.
There was a poll I saw and it said something like 53% of Republicans believe that the world is being run by a ring of global elite international child abusers.
And it was framed as though these people were crackpot crazy conspiracy theorists like Pizzagate stuff.
And it's like, you look at that story, and then a week later they're like, Ghislaine Maxwell, sentenced to 20 years for the elite global trafficking among world leaders, and we don't know her client list is.
Now, look, you want to argue that that is the intent behind what they do internationally?
I don't know.
What we do know is Epstein, Maxwell.
Well, that happened.
Now we'd like to know who they were dealing with.
We know that a bunch of people, global elites, were flying on those planes.
But my point ultimately is this.
It was a conspiracy theory 15 years ago.
Now we actually just read the news about Maxwell getting convicted, getting sentenced to 20 years.
Now it's all just happening.
kari lake
And we see the guy saying liberal world order.
Isn't that crazy?
mary morgan
I suppose they want us to think that they're not smart or organized enough to do any of this with malicious intent.
And I think that's what Biden hides behind is that everyone views him as this senile old man.
But he is crooked.
tim pool
That's the joke we made.
Well, we made the joke that, you know, Biden goes up on stage and he's like, hey, we got to come on, you know, better calf care.
And then everyone laughs.
Then he walks off stage.
And then as soon as he's behind the scenes, he goes, all right, where was I?
I want you to bomb those kids.
We're invading.
Let's go send 60 billion to Ukraine.
mary morgan
It's kind of sick if he is like, OK, with being the laughingstock.
kari lake
It's really sick to think that his son Hunter has been, I guess, the brains behind a lot of these illegal financial dealings that President Biden has been behind.
tim pool
I think he's the proxy.
I think Hunter Biden is the tool that Joe uses to skirt the law.
Why?
So look, he flew to China on Air Force Two.
He brings Hunter along with him.
Hunter Biden does these private equity deals with China.
I think that's all Joe.
kari lake
So Joe makes the arrangement and then Hunter kind of signs on the dotted line?
tim pool
I mean, think about it.
There's laws.
I mean, look at how any rich person tries to evade taxes or give money to family.
It's like, you can't do it, right?
We got reports that Joe and Hunter were sharing bank accounts.
So I'll give you the simple hypothetical.
Joe Biden goes to Ian as vice president and says, I'm going to build some buildings in your country.
It's going to be great.
Your economy is going to boom.
My son needs a favor though.
Totally unrelated.
Then the country does a deal or special interests do deals with his son and he goes, don't look at me.
What my son does is his own business.
kari lake
I don't even ask him about it.
I don't talk to him about it.
Remember he said that?
tim pool
Then we got a photograph of him with Hunter and his business associates.
And now we have a voicemail of Joe saying, I read the piece.
It looks like you're in the clear.
He actually said that.
kari lake
Yeah.
tim pool
I think Joe is doing the deals and he's using his son's name to collect the money.
That's why in that email, there were like 10% for the big guy.
These people are criminal.
kari lake
Yeah.
All I know is it's a messed up family.
I don't want to go too deep into the election, but I don't feel he should be in the White House.
tim pool
Well, he's run this country into the ground.
kari lake
He's run the country into the ground, and that's one of the reasons I'm fighting so hard in Arizona, because we're not going to let him take Arizona down with him.
And it's going to come to the states, each state, to say, no, back off.
We're going to go back to states' rights here and protect our own people.
tim pool
I dig it.
Let's get a little bit more into the domestic issues.
And I want to say I'm just I'm sorry it's come to this for people who are watching.
You might not want your kids to hear this stuff.
This stuff's dark stuff.
But this is the president's son.
The Daily Mail reports.
Naked Hunter Biden filmed himself smoking crack, drinking hard seltzer, You can do it yourself.
kari lake
You can read it yourself at home.
tim pool
While floating inside a sensory deprivation tank, one month after convincing dad Joe to
wire him $20,000 for his detox program, the first family, the son of the president, these
videos are coming out because the laptop got released and the stuff we're learning about
this family is dark.
It's bad stuff.
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
And in my personal opinion, I think Joe Biden was abusive towards his kids.
Because you don't turn out like Hunter Biden unless you had bad parents doing something.
Bad family.
You take a look at how Hunter Biden turned out.
And then you have to ask yourself about the leadership capabilities of Joe Biden, and then you look at the country and you start to put it together, right?
So I don't know what your thoughts are on all this stuff.
More of this is going to keep coming out.
I think it absolutely is indicative of who the Democrats are willing to elect, regardless of their moral character, and of the leadership capabilities of the man himself.
kari lake
That is the point right there.
We knew there were problems.
This is not news to a lot of people.
I was following this before the 2020 election.
I knew a lot of this before the 2020 election.
And the fact that the media kept that, the corporate media bosses kept that from making its way to the people so they could make an educated vote and decision when they went to vote.
Look at Twitter.
But, there were a lot of Democrats who probably knew that and said they didn't like Trump so, they so wanted to get President Trump out that they were willing to vote for someone like that.
tim pool
Here's, you know what the reality is?
Trump has done bad stuff.
You know, he's, he's, he's said mean things.
He called Starmie Dale's horse face.
He called, didn't he call someone a fat pig or something like that?
ian crossland
Rosie O'Donnell.
tim pool
Rosie O'Donnell.
kari lake
Only Rosie O'Donnell.
unidentified
That's right.
kari lake
I remember that from the debate.
Only Rosie O'Donnell.
tim pool
But here's, here's the issue.
The overall majority of the bad things they claimed Trump did, they made up.
They fabricated it.
ian crossland
I just don't want to get distracted by Donald Trump when we're talking about the Biden family.
The Biden family is its own thing that's pretty horrific when you start to dig it open.
tim pool
Agreed, agreed.
My point is just, we had an election in 2020, and it was between Trump and it was between Biden.
And what the Biden voters are going to say is, you expected me to vote for Trump?
He called white supremacists very fine people, which he never actually did.
Exactly.
And so they believe the lies about Trump.
They believe the lies about people like Kyle Rittenhouse.
I tweeted the Kyle Rittenhouse thing was put me up, put me over the edge to vote for Trump because I saw how they're trying to destroy this guy.
And we needed to push back and stop this.
And that was you and Trump pinned it to his profile on Twitter.
And that was used by many on the left to accuse me of being wrong or being right wing or whatever, or far right.
But I was correct.
kari lake
When in fact, you actually had the courage to stand up and say the truth about a young man who was being persecuted.
And they wanted to tear you apart and destroy you.
And when that happened to you, you probably went, Ooh, I think I know a little bit what it must be like to be President Trump right now.
I'm feeling that myself, because I'm being attacked right now.
You're getting 150th of it.
Uh, exactly.
I talk to President Trump regularly and I said, I know I'm getting the Trump treatment right now.
And you know, he, you said he's done some bad things.
I don't think he has.
I disagree with you on that.
I think he's done some amazing things.
His family, I know them.
They're incredible people.
But the media has been tearing them apart relentlessly since 2015, 2016.
And some people have just bought into that because they still believe the media.
And what I want to tell people after working in it for 30 years is turn it off.
Do not believe it.
They've got an agenda and you just can't believe it.
I mean, honestly, I'm getting better information here at Timcast.
I'm listening to you before this show and you're very thoughtful on what you're putting out and making sure things are accurate.
We're not all perfect.
Sometimes you make a mistake.
Absolutely.
you and after working 30 years in TV and in journalism I'm thinking this is more
journalism than what I was seeing in journalism the last at least five six
tim pool
years. I will say to clarify my point on Trump I think Trump is great I think I
can understand why people don't like his character.
I tell these stories, I've talked to regular people who say they don't like the way he talks.
But I know a lot of people do like the way he talks.
And the way I saw it was we needed someone to fight back, especially with the media lying about people like Kyle Rittenhouse.
But no one's perfect.
kari lake
We needed a brash...
New Yorker to come in.
Remember, he beat back 18 other Republicans, many of them rhinos, establishment swamp creatures.
We needed a tough, brash New Yorker who told it like it was.
We couldn't get some mealy-mouthed person to do that and thank God he came in at that point.
tim pool
But there are things that Trump... Here's what I want to say.
What Joe Biden is, I view him as corrupt.
I view Trump as having done bad things as either mistakes or making bad decisions.
People are allowed to make mistakes.
People are allowed to make bad decisions.
You criticize them for it and say, do better.
There's things about Donald Trump that I personally don't like, but for the most part, I think he's a good guy.
I think he was actually a really great president.
I don't like some of his foreign policy decisions, but I overwhelmingly like his foreign policy.
So Commando Raid potentially killed a little girl, an American citizen.
That's what we've heard.
I would like to see an inquiry into that.
Getting our troops out of the Middle East was the first president in my lifetime who not only did not start a war, but was actually ending wars.
So for that, here's what I want to be careful of.
If you come out and you're just like, Trump is the best, he's so good, then people who have questions about things he's done, they close down.
But I also don't want to play this game where it's like, oh, Trump was so awful, when the reality is, oh yeah, he wasn't perfect, he did some things that I think were questionable, wrong, or just bad, but Joe Biden is a hundredfold worse.
kari lake
I think, yeah, what you're saying is you're trying to say, hey, you know, Trump wasn't perfect, we're all humans, but Joe Biden is not just imperfect, he is corrupt.
Malicious he's malicious and you look at his family.
We know Trump's got attacked and his children got attacked Joe Biden raised this family and if you look at his daughter's diary I mean, this is crossing the line in a serious way where police should have been involved possibly even arrests involved Joe Biden such insidious stuff in that family.
mary morgan
Yeah, and it's not just the reasons that people dislike either of them, but there's such an organic appeal to Trump, whereas the support for Biden is all
reluctant support because they hated Trump.
kari lake
I don't see anybody enthusiastic about Biden.
tim pool
Never.
kari lake
And I didn't see it before 2020 either.
mary morgan
It's shocking that they're so brazenly just screwing the American people.
kari lake
Yeah, it's almost like their hatred for President Trump is so overwhelming and eating them up that they're willing to sacrifice our country, our Constitution, our freedoms to go, okay, we got him out.
tim pool
I don't know if it's actually that they hate Trump.
I don't know if they're smart enough to actually hate the man.
So I think it may have been Austin Peterson, Lydia heard me if I'm wrong, who was talking about a friend of theirs.
But we had a guest on saying their friend believed, they were like a liberal Democrat, that Trump called white nationalists very fine people.
And so he said, just here, read the transcript.
And the person started reading it, and then like paused, and then scrolled back and started reading it again, and then just froze, got up and left the room.
I remember that and it was a huge story and I remember hearing his entire remarks and going, I don't remember him saying that.
ian crossland
That was Austin Peterson.
tim pool
It was Austin Peterson.
Yeah.
kari lake
I remember that and it was a huge story.
And I remember hearing his entire remarks and going, I don't remember him saying that.
Then the media would perpetuate it over and over.
And I even went back a couple of times and listened.
listened to what President Trump said to, am I hearing something wrong?
Because everyone's saying he said this.
And I remember hearing that, looking back at it a couple of times just to make sure
I didn't mishear it.
tim pool
So I don't, I don't think they hate Trump.
I mean, they do hate him, but what I mean to say is it's not real because they don't
They didn't investigate.
They didn't bother to.
I think what actually motivates these people is fitting in.
So you walk around New York and everyone just says, oh yeah, I hate Trump too.
And so they go, okay, that's their identity.
kari lake
Fitting in socially is more important than being inquisitive and finding out the truth.
mary morgan
For me, I... Do you think people living in more conservative areas do the same thing?
kari lake
Well, I can tell you because I live in a red state.
I think we're a lot more who cares what they think about us.
We want the truth.
Now, not to say we don't have people in Arizona who are, like you just described, the peer pressure gets to them.
That's why when I see, to be honest, a young conservative, and we have a lot of them involved in our campaign.
And they'll say, oh my gosh, I'm so inspired by you.
And I think, oh, I'm a middle-aged woman.
Of course I'm gonna be bossy and tell it like it is.
This is what middle-aged women do, right?
But I say, no, I'm inspired by you.
When there's a young person, 18, 20 years old, 22, who's pushing back against that peer pressure, is that what you still call it?
Peer pressure, is that an outdated word?
They're pushing back against their social pressure, social media.
And speaking the truth, that is actually very courageous.
tim pool
Well, let's talk about the Founding Fathers, because before the show we had some interesting data points.
Lydia, do you still have that data about the Founding Fathers?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Do you want to read it?
lydia smith
Sure.
Well, we pulled it up and it looks like the Founding Fathers were, I want to say, James Monroe was 18 years old.
These are the signers of the Declaration of Independence.
18 years old.
Yep.
Two of them were 20 years old.
The oldest one mentioned here was, no, Thomas Jefferson was 33.
Wow.
And we have 20, 20, and 25.
tim pool
Madison was 25?
lydia smith
I believe so, yeah.
mary morgan
I saw the responses to that.
It's a tweet, right?
lydia smith
Listing his ages.
mary morgan
I saw a tweet that was listing those ages and the responses were like, well, it's because the life expectancy back then was like 45.
So an 18 year old was the same as a 35 year old.
tim pool
It's not true.
The reason the average life expectancy was so low is because of infant mortality.
But if you survived infancy, you were expected to live to be 70 or 80 years old.
kari lake
And we were talking, I think it was Ian and I were saying, and I would take a nine or ten year old from that era because they were so competent.
They could farm, they could hunt, they could do anything.
They were so resourceful.
I would trade them probably for, you know, the average person in America today who is not able to have those survival skills that they had back then.
ian crossland
Somebody stoned on aspartame?
mary morgan
We're not practically skilled or emotionally sophisticated, like developed either.
kari lake
Well, you talked about what's happening with the farmers and maybe there could be a food shortage at some point.
Back then, they wouldn't worry about that because they were growing their own food.
ian crossland
You know, regarding this climate change fear that they're telling farmers not to grow food, I find this sad because there's a lot of evidence that we can withdraw the carbon from the atmosphere.
I don't know if you've been following or even know farmers.
What's that?
tim pool
With more farming.
ian crossland
With more farming.
I don't know.
tim pool
Plants absorb carbon.
ian crossland
That's one way to do it.
But you can actually deposit the carbon dioxide onto like palladium or other metals and then withdraw the carbon from it and get graphene.
Just a building material.
But they don't know.
It's like the politicians either don't know.
I assume they don't know.
It's ignorance.
Because if they knew, there would be another discussion like, it's the most valuable resource on earth, this carbon.
And if we could just get it back.
You can get it right out of the smokestack too.
tim pool
Well, so do you, Ian, do you know where the mass of a tree comes from?
ian crossland
The roots?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Are you being serious?
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Do you guys know where, like, a tree grows, right?
There's mass accumulating.
Where does that matter come from?
kari lake
From CO2.
That's right.
It comes from the air.
It sucks out kind of what we consider pollution.
unidentified
What we consider pollution is its life The building blocks of a tree come from the air.
tim pool
It takes the carbon and builds from the air.
ian crossland
It's like how ours comes from the food that we eat.
That's their food, is the carbon dioxide.
Well, it's also water.
kari lake
Well, and they emit oxygen as well, right?
tim pool
They take the carbon dioxide and rip the carbon off and spit the oxygen back out.
So when you have farmers being told not to farm, it's like, uh, those crops actually absorb carbon from the atmosphere.
Why would you not want that?
Now, I can understand concerns about nitrogen, is what they're saying, not necessarily talking about carbon, but we want more plants to be growing, so why wouldn't you just be like, hey, plant a bunch of trees?
Like, you know, allocate a certain amount of time, plant trees in these places.
Anyway, look, I'm not going to pretend to be an environmental expert, because I'm sure whatever I said made no sense.
Some scientist is probably like, Tim, you're wrong for these reasons.
kari lake
But don't you think that...
tim pool
Exactly, they're in the same position.
ian crossland
What were you saying, Carrie?
kari lake
Well, I think we all want a healthy environment.
We want clean air, clean water.
But it's gotten to the point where it's being pushed so much that it's destroying our economy, pushing companies out.
Oh, you're going to pollute too much, too much CO2.
And the company finally says, you know, we'll just move it to China or India.
And then they take all those jobs away.
They destroy all those families.
They destroy a local economy.
and talk about an animal in peril, the human being.
But yet the environmentalists are okay with that company setting up a manufacturing or factory in another country
and polluting there.
mary morgan
There's actually a- China and India are terrible about pollution.
kari lake
Right, and so do you care about the world, the globe, or don't you?
tim pool
I I want to pull this story up, I have to do it.
This story infuriated me to no end.
unidentified
I'm sorry to interrupt you, but this is important.
tim pool
Mediaite says Beltway climate protest backfires as video of parolee pleading he needs to get to work goes viral.
These people are climate change activists who blocked a highway in Maryland A man gets out of his car and says, Hey, I gotta get to work.
I'm on parole.
If I don't get to work, I will be put back in prison.
They don't say a word.
They ignore him.
kari lake
They don't care.
tim pool
He says, Please give me one lane.
Let me go to work.
They ignore him.
He starts yelling at him, ripping their signs.
The police come in and arrest him.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Here's the worst thing.
kari lake
I saw the video of them pulling these guys off.
I thought it was great.
I'm like, pull each and every one of them off and move the traffic.
He got arrested?
tim pool
He got arrested.
And then this guy, Guido Reichstadter, who was there, launched a fundraiser trying to raise $100,000.
Saying help this man out.
He doesn't know who the guy is.
He doesn't know the guy's name.
He is trying to raise a hundred grand off the back of a man whose life he destroyed.
These people, this is the trolley problem, they would pull the lever to kill you in a moment if they thought they were doing good.
Now here's the reality of it.
The trolley problem presents you... You guys are familiar with it, right?
We all love the trolley problem.
There's five people on the tracks.
The train's going to come and hit them.
If you pull the lever, you kill someone who is not in danger.
But it's one person versus the five.
You see, that is a very simple way of explaining these problems.
You can see five people in danger.
You can see one person not in danger when you pull the lever.
The reality is, these psychopathic narcissists Who would destroy your life for their righteousness, cannot see anything.
unidentified
You're right.
tim pool
So here's the better trolley problem.
A train is coming.
The track is completely clear.
Someone runs up to you and says, hey, if that train keeps going, eventually someone will die.
Now if you pull that lever and divert it, you'll kill that person.
What do you say?
That's what they're doing.
They know they're destroying lives.
They know they ruined this guy's life.
They're trying to make money off of it.
A hundred grand.
He doesn't know who this guy is.
He's not gonna be able to give him any money.
And they don't know that climate change is actually gonna cause the problems they think it's gonna cause.
No one is smart enough to predict exactly how it will play out.
kari lake
Well, and their solutions to climate change are going to cause even more drastic and horrible problems for the world, I believe.
So they don't really care about people at all.
And they don't care in the same way that these Biden, I guess, voters who just hated Trump don't care about outcomes for people.
tim pool
Exactly.
And then?
The fact that this man launched a GoFundMe seeking $100,000 is the perfect example of who these people are.
They don't care, they hate Trump, and they will try to make money off you.
That's so brutal.
kari lake
I didn't know that that had gone on, that the man was on parole.
Going to a job he had to show up at or he was going to get thrown back behind bars?
tim pool
If he didn't show up to work on time, he'd get thrown in jail.
ian crossland
I saw the video of him grabbing a sign, but do they just not get out of their cars and just pull the people off the street because it's a type of assault?
kari lake
I saw a woman there too, and I was actually going, bravo, get these people off the road and allow people to get moving.
They may not have to work, or they may want to sit home, and they may want to cause trouble, but people have lives to live.
They have children to feed.
They have mouths to feed at home.
tim pool
You know what this is?
First, I respect nonviolent civil disobedience.
They want to come and they want to block the highway?
Bravo.
Do your thing.
You got your attention.
Congratulations.
The police should then come in and arrest them within a matter of minutes.
Clear the road.
You've made your point.
You got arrested.
You caused a traffic jam.
But everybody carries on and it's a minor inconvenience.
The police were not doing anything.
kari lake
The cops were letting them stay there.
Also, they've defunded the police.
These same people wanted to defund the police.
I didn't mind that somebody pulled them off the road.
They didn't do it in a violent way.
It's like, dude, this is a road for traveling on.
Take your protest.
We get the idea.
Move it along.
I didn't think pulling these guys off the road was an act of violence when you've got thousands of cars backed up.
tim pool
And the cops just let them sit there.
So I'll tell you something.
Let's ramp up the fear.
So you see how they treat this one man.
They destroy his life.
They try to make money off it.
Greta Thunberg famously said, we want to end fossil fuels now.
Paraphrasing.
We don't want to wait till 2030.
We don't want to wait till 2023.
We want to end it now.
Do you know what would happen if we shut off fossil fuels like that right now?
I think the estimate is 60 million people die overnight.
Die overnight.
kari lake
Wow.
tim pool
Yep.
kari lake
I would think that everything would collapse.
tim pool
Without fossil fuels, we don't have electricity.
ian crossland
We don't have plastics.
Plastics are built from oil, man.
tim pool
That's right.
But the immediate reaction is, without oil, if we just stopped all use of oil right now, first, diabetics, they're done, because insulin is kept refrigerated.
If they can't get power, if they don't have some kind of alternate way of backup power, they die.
Many people are reliant on heat from fossil fuels.
In cold climates, older people, they die.
When you get these activists like Greta Thunberg, who outright ignore countries like China or India, and just rag on Europe and the United States, say they want to end it today, you might think, oh, she's just ignorant.
If only she knew that what she was proposing would kill millions of people, she would not advocate for it.
No.
No, she would.
And they do know, and they do it anyway, and this is evidence.
kari lake
Well, they made her a celebrity, and, I mean, they put at the top of the ticket for their environmental, you know, ideas at the time.
I think she was, what, 16 or 14?
tim pool
Yeah.
kari lake
That was their spokesperson.
tim pool
Well, you know what?
I strongly encourage all of these young people to be like Greta Thunberg.
Drop out of school.
kari lake
Hey, I've met some smart people who aren't in school.
I'm on the campaign trail.
A lot of the smartest people I meet, the greatest kids I meet are the ones that are homeschooled.
tim pool
That's why.
kari lake
And you can spot them from a mile away.
I'm not sure that Greta would be on my list of smartest people, but I don't know her so I don't want to.
mary morgan
Like what would Greta even say to those points you were making?
I don't think she would know what to make of them because she's so dumb hyper fixated on this issue like it's a like she does have autism and it is her special interest but it's being made into her career path.
tim pool
She was like these people have a fantasy of unlimited economic growth And I think she called it a fantasy.
And it's like, yes, because what we've discovered is that while you can't keep building buildings or producing widgets, you can make digital property and crypto and things like that.
So we can have endless economic growth when you have a virtual, we have a virtual world where you have virtual goods that are just data in a machine.
So you can actually, there are people who used to have jobs making Warcraft gold.
Just playing a video game and then giving the gold to someone else for money.
You can produce things and have economic growth that doesn't impact the physical reality.
Granted, playing the video game does have an impact with electricity consumption and things like that.
She clearly just doesn't know what she's talking about.
ian crossland
You can have unlimited economic growth.
It's actually the nature of our species and reality is unlimited economic stuff.
But it's the rate of economic expansion that can become dangerous.
You don't want it to grow too fast.
tim pool
Or maybe you do, because, you know, as the story goes, back in the turn-of-the-century 1900s, there were these reports in all these big newspapers that we were going to have a manure crisis in New York City.
That there was going to be horse manure piling up in the streets.
It would be so much, you wouldn't be able to get around anymore, nobody would live there, and then the car got invented.
ian crossland
Yeah, same thing with carbon in the air right now.
I would imagine if they went back and killed all the horses because they were like, no, no more horse manure.
We need to stop horses now.
It would have been tragic.
Same thing with trying to stop carbon-producing machines.
tim pool
You laugh, but AOC put out a Green New Deal thing that said farting cows.
Remember that?
kari lake
Yep.
tim pool
Farting cows.
ian crossland
We've got to teach these people.
kari lake
They had more common sense back then, though.
They didn't have this lunacy back then.
ian crossland
I think if we can get, I like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez because I feel like she's at least a real person, whether or not she's misguided or not, she's at least a real, normal person.
But if you talk to her about carbon recapture tech and you lay out the graphene production in the industry that we could create, I think you could bridge a gap between climate activists and national industrialists.
We could make the United States the greatest industry on earth just making the cheapest graphene to make 21st century industry and clean up the air It's not actually about preserving the planet or cleaning up the air.
mary morgan
I think Greta's cause is really just to lower the standard quality of life in the West and reserve, you know, things like meat and air conditioning and flying on planes for an elite.
tim pool
Class.
Look what she did when she was like, I'm going to go to the UN and take a boat instead of flying.
And then she went on this really expensive fiberglass ship with a crew that kept her safe.
And it was like, I forgot how much it cost to do this journey, but it was a huge stunt that consumed way more carbon than actually just flying.
mary morgan
It's all about resource hoarding.
unidentified
Yep.
mary morgan
It's a scarcity mindset.
ian crossland
I do believe she's been used by her surroundings.
Like her parents, I think, kind of pushed her in that direction.
Oh, totally.
mary morgan
Because they're entertainers.
tim pool
But I gotta push back.
AOC is not a real person.
ian crossland
Relative to most people in Congress, that's what I mean.
kari lake
I think she's good at communicating to people and people think they have a friendship with her because she's in her kitchen and she's having wine and making dinner and they go, oh, she's my friend.
And that's where she's been able to connect with people and young people.
And I do believe we're seeing a huge movement of young people getting into politics because they realize the last few years that politics affects their lives.
It affects their lives.
It affects their ability to interact with the masks on their face and all of the shutdowns and the forced vaccines and all that.
I know I can't say that.
I'm sorry.
But, you know, she was able to get young people involved in politics.
I think she is leading them astray.
But what we're seeing now is a huge movement of young people.
And I think they're becoming conservative because they're looking at who tortured them the last three years, which party was torturing them, who was behind some of this.
And we're seeing it in our campaign.
We're seeing a lot of young people coming in and getting involved.
I think they're going to vote in droves.
tim pool
Well, Mary, you're a young person.
What do you think?
mary morgan
Well, the left is obviously outdone the right by miles in having their finger on the pulse of culture.
And the right is only just now catching up.
And it really hits home what you said about, like, the masks.
Because that's, I think, when it touched a lot of people's personal lives for the first time.
That's like, it is literally right in your face.
kari lake
Muzzling you, yeah.
mary morgan
This hand over your mouth.
kari lake
And they were told by social media and the entertainment world, this is good, you're doing a good thing, but in their brain they're thinking, okay, all of the people in my social world, the celebrities who I like are telling me this is good and we need to do this, but deep down in their heart they went, this sucks.
mary morgan
Yeah, young people are hungry for more.
tim pool
But do you think that Gen Z is going to So I want to make sure I clarify.
Republicans have more kids than Democrats.
Conservatives have more kids than liberals do.
And so there's more Gen Z conservatives by a tiny bit, according to Pew.
But in general, among like normie Gen Z, do you think they're like leaning more anti-establishment, anti-woke, not necessarily right wing?
Or do you think they're left?
kari lake
Can you ask it?
Are they leaning more Biden?
Because Biden's the- That's right, yeah.
Because I think they're seeing him as very uncool.
I don't know.
Am I right or wrong?
mary morgan
It depends, like, who does Gen Z want to make the butt of their jokes?
That's, like, really what you have to watch because humor is all they have.
I don't think they're leaning any direction.
They're kind of just hopeless and... Hopeless.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, their sense of humor is like this post-post-post-ironic... Suicide.
Yeah, it's so nihilistic.
I think they're alienated from politics.
tim pool
Well, they should vote for Trump.
ian crossland
It's very late 1920s.
It feels like Weimar, Germany, where they needed a villain.
They needed a butt for their joke, and Hitler pointed them at the Jews, and then they had their villain.
We need to be careful.
mary morgan
And it's not just that, but they hate themselves, too.
I feel so sad when I see people a little bit younger than me out in public because they just look so uncomfortable in themselves. And I think the
pandemic really exacerbated that, because they were socially isolated. They got a terrible
education over a screen for years.
Thankfully, I was spared from that. But it's going to be really weird, because there's this,
tim pool
this, this COVID period is going to have a profound impact on people, even though it's
only a couple of years.
So you've got millennials and older who lived a life outside of the lockdowns until the lockdowns happened.
So they were adults.
But then you've got Gen Z and Gen Alpha, who developmental years were happening in this lockdown period, which is going to scramble their brain.
kari lake
This is really, this is where, oh my gosh, as a mom I'm just very sad about what happened, what we did to our kids.
I'm just listening to you talk about their sense of humor.
We tortured our children, and it's not the moms who did it, but a lot of moms and dad felt like they were being forced to abuse their children.
Every day having to put a mask on their four-year-old and send them off.
tim pool
Or the parents who are on planes, and they were like, put the mask on your one-year-old, and they were like, they keep taking it off, and they're like, don't care. Get off then. Yeah. It's just like it's a and
kari lake
it's forcing these parents who love more than anything this child to do something they know is wrong and it is sick as
hell and we will never ever forget that.
tim pool
What are your thoughts on homeschooling.
kari lake
I love it.
I mean, I'm out on the campaign trail and I can spot a homeschooled kid from a mile away.
They come up, they talk to you, they look in the eye.
I'll say, are you homeschooled perchance?
And they're like, yeah, I am.
Been homeschooled.
And then the mom will say I'm homeschooling them for three years, started with COVID.
And really bright kids, really bright kids.
tim pool
Isn't it crazy that The institutionalized learning facilities funded by our taxpayer dollars are stunting children and inhibiting them, and that you can see it in a homeschooled kid that they're better adjusted, more mature.
kari lake
You know, the school, what do they call it, the teachers union, they're having a national meeting right now.
Can you believe they're trying to push for masks again?
unidentified
Wow.
kari lake
This is sick.
It's absolutely sick.
mary morgan
In the public schools?
kari lake
Yeah, that's one of their agenda items.
It's like, are you serious?
Do you want nobody going to your school?
We just passed the biggest school choice bill into law.
This is the craziest thing.
in the last couple weeks that the money follows the student.
Arizona is the leader in this now.
So if you've got, Ian has a son or daughter and you don't like what they're teaching in
the school up the road, you say, you know what, we're taking the money, our tax money,
we're going to this school.
And it's huge.
tim pool
So this is the craziest thing.
I'm a huge fan of school choice because we saw the Supreme Court ruling up in Maine,
for instance, where they said in certain areas of Maine, they don't have public schools.
So the taxpayer is given essentially a voucher to choose where they want to go.
Maine was like, okay, but you can't go to religious institutions.
Supreme Court said, you can't do that.
That's meddling.
kari lake
But you could send them to an international school.
tim pool
Right.
So now we're so we see that the left freaks out we see in Florida I think Florida just did a school choice thing or they're moving towards it and they I'm wondering how are the Democrats going to try and spin school choice as a bad thing and what they're saying is Republicans are going to enact school choice Then, once parents start leaving public schools, they're gonna say, oh look, nobody needs public schools, and they're gonna shut them all down so that kids are dumb.
It's the weirdest non-argument.
The reality is, there's no argument against school choice.
It makes no sense.
kari lake
There's public schools.
tim pool
Parents get a choice in which public school they go to.
kari lake
If you poll people on this, it's overwhelming.
Democrat, independent, and Republicans want it.
So you go, well, how come it's taken this long to get it?
Because the Democrats are getting money from the teachers union.
A lot of money is at stake here.
This money does not belong to the public schools.
The money we pour in for education belongs to the students.
It's for the students and for a long time they've convinced people it belongs to the public schools.
No, that money we are taxed and that money goes is set aside to educate our students.
It doesn't mean it goes to the public school.
There's nothing that says it goes to the public school.
tim pool
If Republicans and conservatives win on the school front, they win.
Period.
It's over.
Liberals are not having kids.
Conservatives are even having less kids, but they have way more.
So the only way in the next 10 to 20 years the conservatives lose is if they don't inspire young people.
So people really need to think about this too, because so many people don't.
10 years ago, we've got Barack Obama's second term, right?
And you were how old?
You were like 11?
mary morgan
Yeah.
tim pool
Not even voting.
kari lake
You're just trying to make me feel old over here with her.
tim pool
Oh, well, we're old too.
But my point is, you got to understand 10 years goes in the blink of an eye.
I mean, I can't believe Occupy Wall Street was 11 years ago.
It's 11 years.
That's crazy.
And the political issues that we were dealing with, that we were concerned about, Gen Z has no idea what any of that is.
So, you don't know anything about Occupy Wall Street, I'd imagine, right?
And I don't mean that in a disrespectful way, I mean like, you were a little kid, you probably weren't paying attention.
mary morgan
Yeah, I mean, after the fact, I've heard about it, sure, but at the time, no idea.
tim pool
So this is something that's come up on the show, and we had, I think it was Vosh Socialist, we've had him on the show.
lydia smith
Hunter Avalon, too young.
tim pool
Hunter Avalon?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It was Vosh as well.
lydia smith
Oh, was it, really?
tim pool
I think both of them.
They're similar ages.
Yeah, they're similar ages, because they're in their 20s.
And I said, I don't understand how people could vote for Joe Biden After everything we went through during the Obama era, and with, you know, during Occupy Wall Street, Obama was the bad guy.
Obama was the bailout guy.
I know you can blame George Bush for a lot of this stuff, too, and you go back to 2000, but Obama was Obama, the drone guy.
And the response we get from him is, oh, I was in high school, I don't know any of that stuff.
kari lake
I never thought of that, you're right.
They have no idea.
tim pool
So here's what happens.
Conservatives have a bunch of kids.
Elon Musk, he's cranking out the babies.
That's the first thing.
Because those kids are going to retain some of the values of their parents.
Some.
Many of these parents are taking their kids and they're putting them into institutionalized learning facilities that hate you.
That want to indoctrinate your kids.
If the conservatives win on school choice, it's done.
The left, their dogma, their cult, will die with them as they age and they lose voting power.
And the new generation, typically raised by conservatives, will retain conservative values, give it 20 years, and we're going to see two generations step up into the voting age, and if the conservatives keep having their kids and protecting them from these institutionalized learning facilities, the United States hands down becomes a Christian conservative nation.
Now I'm not saying it's a good thing for those that aren't Christian conservative, but that's what will happen if Christian conservative parents instill their values in their kids.
mary morgan
That's interesting.
Do you know that since the Roe v. Wade news, the rate of vasectomies has skyrocketed?
tim pool
And I'm sure every conservative is laughing and high-fiving their friends.
mary morgan
Because they're the anti-life side, sadly.
tim pool
I said this ten years ago to people.
I said it a few years ago.
If you are even 1% more likely to get an abortion, let's say you have 50 Democrats and 50 Republicans.
And the Democrats are 1% more likely to have an abortion.
Over a long enough period of time, the Democrats will cease to exist and the Republicans will keep having kids.
Because it's just basic math.
kari lake
It's not just abortion, though.
I'm hearing a lot of people that are liberals saying, I don't want to have kids because of the climate change, and I'm just worried about the climate.
They have been brainwashed into thinking that it's a bad idea to have children, and it's one of the greatest gifts that I believe God gives you is when he makes you a parent.
tim pool
Well, some of these parents are sterilizing their kids.
kari lake
Oh, with the puberty blockers.
Transgender stuff.
tim pool
Puberty blockers, things like that.
kari lake
And doctors who go along with that, really, we need to look at their medical license.
The surgeries especially are especially cruel.
tim pool
On minors.
So you look at where we're going, and this is why I stress again, the school issue is the most important.
I don't know if conservatives totally get it.
kari lake
That is a great point.
I mean, that was deep and that was true.
tim pool
The saying is, socialists don't have kids, they have yours.
If people are conservative and they have kids and they put them in a college, don't be surprised when your young, beautiful, blonde daughter comes home with a shaved head, tattoos, gauges, and is screaming that you're evil.
This is the craziest thing because I've seen these stories where a guy, you know, he posts on Reddit and he's like, my daughter came back from college and she hates me.
I don't understand.
unidentified
Yeah.
kari lake
And it takes, they go there in August and by Thanksgiving they come back and they've changed.
unidentified
Yep.
kari lake
Yeah, I think it's great and we're on the way.
We're doing great things in Arizona.
The charter school movement really began and we are going to be the school, I call it school freedom, education freedom state.
And any way we can make that better so that our kids are getting quality education, not a brainwashing.
And in my plan for education is we have what we'd like to push is a dual track education.
So after 10th grade you decide, hey, we're going to go the four-year college route or do we want to go and get skills training, trade school, vocational, certification?
There's no reason we can't get our kids out of school at 18 and have them ready to take on the world.
Most of these jobs don't require college.
As a matter of fact, college sets you back from achieving the American dream because you're in a heap of debt.
And look at, what did we say, 18 years old, James Monroe.
These young founding fathers of ours were doing big things.
tim pool
Created a country.
kari lake
Took on a monarchy.
Yeah, so we need to get our kids ready at 18.
I talk to industry leaders every week and they say, we've got great jobs, they pay $80,000 full benefits, nobody to fill them.
tim pool
You know what kids need?
ian crossland
Jobs.
kari lake
The jobs are out there, but they're not ready for them.
We should get them ready in high school.
tim pool
I mean, children need jobs.
Oh.
But I'll clarify too, because I know that the left loses their minds, because some Republicans said that, and they were like, child labor!
mary morgan
In the minds!
kari lake
Oh man, we worked so hard as kids.
I mean, up at 6 a.m.
on the weekend, chores.
It was crazy.
tim pool
Exactly.
So I worked at my family's business.
My mom opened a cafe.
Didn't survive all that long, but a couple years.
And I think I worked something like 10 hours a week.
Working with the family business.
That is what kids need.
You don't want kids doing back-breaking labor.
You don't want them working in factories and anything crazy like that.
I was making sandwiches and ringing up people's coffee.
But you want some responsibility to learn.
kari lake
I think they can do some back-breaking work.
There's not a damn thing wrong with that.
tim pool
Oh, no, no, of course, of course.
Dad's teaching their kid to chop lumber, kid's mowing the lawn, kid's carrying stuff and moving bricks.
That's all fine.
I'm just like industrial machinery.
kari lake
There's a reason why we say, hey, we don't want the kids... Well, we don't want our kids going off to work in a factory at age 9 and 10.
No, but when we were little, my dad would wake us up.
We heated our home partially in the winter with wood, and so we had to, you know, split wood and cut down trees and do all that.
Was it fun?
At the time, I dreaded it.
I'm sure I complained the entire day.
We'd get up at 6 a.m., we're there.
You know what we were paid?
A soda.
We'd go to the gas station after we were done, and we would, you know, put, you know, whatever it was at the time, 50 cents or whatever, into the, you know, pop machine.
And that was our pay for working from like 6 till 3 or 4 in the afternoon, cutting wood, cutting lumber, and then splitting wood, and loading wood into the truck, and then unloading the wood.
But I'm so glad I have that understanding of how to even do that.
tim pool
Kids need work.
They need to, you know, paper routes they used to do.
We don't have that anymore.
We need things like that.
kari lake
The greatest thing about a paper route was the collection part.
Do you remember?
I mean, I don't know if you're old enough to remember that the paper boy would, you know, ride his bike, throw the paper, and then at the end of the week, when we were little, he'd have to come knocking at the door and collect, you know, whatever the payment was for the paper that week.
Can you imagine you're doing, like, you know, debt collection at age 10?
tim pool
When I was a kid, we would go door-to-door mowing lawns and shoveling snow.
That was like a normal thing where I grew up.
So whenever it would snow, we'd get excited and be like, let's go make some money.
kari lake
We can make some dough, yeah.
tim pool
And then we'd knock and like, you know, some middle-aged dude would come out and we'd be like, can we shovel your walkway for money?
And he's like, yeah, I'll give you 10 bucks.
And we're like, yes!
kari lake
Got it.
That's awesome.
tim pool
I wonder, do kids still do that?
Did you do that?
Do you know anybody who does that?
mary morgan
My brothers definitely did.
Yeah.
tim pool
That's good.
Things like that are good.
Kids need that stuff.
kari lake
I wish we would have done more of that with our kids.
If they're watching, they're probably like, Mom, please don't talk about us.
Don't.
But we didn't push that.
We didn't have to do that with our kids.
And I regret that we weren't pushing more of, you know, work around the house and things like that.
Both of my kids do work, so that's great.
unidentified
People are just so afraid to let their kids out of the bubble.
kari lake
I think that's it.
mary morgan
The stranger danger is huge now.
tim pool
Oh yeah.
kari lake
I never really taught my kids that because I didn't want them to look around and be afraid of people.
I mean, there are obviously bad people in this world.
mary morgan
In the public schools.
kari lake
But I wanted them to know if they ever got lost and were, you know, you're at a ballpark or whatever and they got lost, I wanted them to know that, you know, at 99.9% of the people, if you just go up and ask them for help, are gonna be helpful.
So I always trained them, go find another mommy.
Yes.
Yes.
Tell her you're lost, but don't panic.
Just find another mommy and she'll help find, because I always knew another mom would help
if they see a child.
tim pool
Are your kids adults?
kari lake
Yeah, my son is 17 and my daughter is 19.
tim pool
Let's talk about their future.
We have the story from the Washington Examiner. Arizona attorney general seeks invasion status
to tackle illegal immigration. I saw a video of thousands of people marching through Central
America and South America and Mexico carrying the flags of their own countries as they announced
they were coming to the United States. And then when the conservatives were saying it was an
invasion, the media on the left said that it was hate speech, that it was a talking point.
And I'm just sitting here like, I don't know, man.
I saw a video of like a thousand people carrying the flags of their own country trying to come to ours, and then I watched them attack border guards.
So I kind of feel like... Look, you might not like the idea of the word, but it qualifies.
kari lake
It's truly an invasion.
Anybody who says it isn't either is uneducated or lying.
I've been down at the border.
There are people coming over all day, every day, sometimes in small groups of nine and 10, sometimes 250 rush the border.
We see the video there.
Well, at least now we know if they've got the flag, which country to send it back to because we can't absorb them here in, we're not going to absorb them in Arizona.
tim pool
So Mark Brnovich, is that how you pronounce it, is calling on Governor Doug Ducey to invoke invasion status and take action.
Two questions, I suppose.
Do you think it'll happen?
And if you were governor, would you do it?
kari lake
Yeah, we should have done it a long time ago.
Beginning of January, I put together my border policy and the first thing you do is you issue a declaration of invasion and invoke basically your Article 1, Section 10 rights as a state to protect your people when you're in danger and you have an invasion.
And you have to declare the invasion to kind of get that ball rolling.
I gave my plan to Governor Ducey and I said, please take this.
You can have it, you can rename it, you can call it the Ducey plan, whatever.
But do it.
We can't wait until I'm governor in January 23.
We can't go another year with thousands of people, hundreds of thousands of people pouring across, the cartels being in control, the drugs pouring across, killing and weakening Americans.
We can't do it.
And he's done nothing.
He's done nothing.
tim pool
Dizzy's done nothing.
kari lake
No, and then he, you know, he'll do a dog and pony show at the border and it's like, Do you not see what's happening here?
Do you not care about Arizona?
I don't know if it's because he's a lame duck and it's gonna take too much work, but we're going to on day one, I'll take my hand off the Bible after the oath of office, and we're gonna issue a declaration of invasion.
We're gonna put the Arizona National Guard at the border, and we're gonna arm them, and we're gonna stop people from coming across.
Unfortunately, the Border Patrol can't do that.
They're under Joe Biden.
tim pool
Right, they're federal.
kari lake
And they're forced to just process these people, and they come over with smiles on their face.
They're like, wow, land of the free, here we are.
And it's destroying the middle class.
What's really sad, if you really care about people, if you really care about people and are compassionate, these people coming over, millions of them, are basically indentured servants to the cartels.
You come over and you owe the cartel for your passage into America, and it's thousands of dollars you've got to work to pay off.
tim pool
Sometimes they never can, because much like student loan debts, for instance, they say you're gonna owe us more, there's gonna be interest, you'll never be able to pay it off.
ian crossland
This was a wristband given to me by Jorge Ventura from, it was on one of the, I guess you call them migrants, one of the, this is Entregas, which means delivered.
They were being delivered by cartel.
tim pool
This is number 4186 is the number.
That was for children, wasn't it?
kari lake
This is what's, oh, there's children's shoes everywhere.
I just got chills actually thinking about the last time I was there, children's clothes,
children's shoes, children coming across.
tim pool
Something is deeply wrong with this country when you have a political faction of millions of voters
who would protect these people, protect the cartels, protect the coyotes.
You remember when Donald Trump was debating and he said the coyotes are bringing people across?
And these blue check mark journalists did not know what a coyote was.
And they all laughed and thought Trump was talking about animals
because they weren't smart enough to Google search.
kari lake
To know what that means, yeah.
tim pool
You have young girls being abused by human traffickers, and it's because Joe Biden will not deal with this.
And you know what Biden did instead of securing the border?
He started putting these minors on planes and flying them across the country to sweep it under the rug.
kari lake
Oh, you see it every time we fly out.
We flew here and you see people in the airport.
They don't have ID.
They just have their basically their court paperwork to show up at court.
We have to show our ID, you know, hand over everything.
And they're all over the airport.
And they're being shipped to a city near you.
And this is why people from all 50 states have gotten involved in our campaign, because they know we are going to protect the border in Arizona.
And this is a national issue, not an Arizona issue.
It's a national issue.
And if we don't get strong governors in our border states, we're gone.
We're done as a country.
ian crossland
If there's an invasion status declared and they get armed, can they just mow down civilians?
kari lake
No, and that's not what we're doing.
I mean, this is kind of what the liberals will say.
What do you want?
We want our Arizona National Guard and our guard members, and we're going to ask other states to send their guard down as well.
We need boots on the ground to protect our border.
This is to protect our National Guard.
We're dealing with the cartels.
You know, you don't have to watch that many issues of any movie dealing with the cartel breaking bad.
They're not friendly people, okay?
We're not going to have our Guard members be killed while they're down there protecting us.
And we're just going to stop people.
When we catch them, we're going to process them, and we're sending them back.
And we have a couple of brave sheriffs in Texas, even following that.
They finally are saying, hey, we want to declare an invasion.
If our governor won't do it, we will do it.
And one of them had processed some people that were involved in an accident or something, and they refused service.
They refused going to the hospital.
And so he took them, and he drove them right back to the port of entry, dropped them off, and said, adios.
tim pool
So we have this story from Temcast.
Texas Governor Abbott authorizes National Guard DPS to arrest illegal migrants and return them to the border.
I don't think, he didn't declare invasion, but he's getting, you know, he's kind of on the edge sending the National Guard out to deal with this.
What do you think of what he's doing?
Do you think he's doing a well enough job?
kari lake
He's getting pressured.
The people are going, come on, how much worse does this have to get before we see these governors grow a spine?
tim pool
Why aren't they doing it?
kari lake
How hard is it?
I think our government's part and parcel to this.
I mean, I think the federal government... Last time I was there, I watched three van loads of illegals being brought in.
And the border agent stopped with the third van.
He rolled the window down.
He said, I'm voting for you, but you've got to stop this.
This is the 2,873rd illegal alien I've processed.
And this was early in May.
This was like the first week.
Illegal alien I processed and this was early in May. This was like the first week
2873rd illegal alien I processed at this spot. That's one guy and
And he said it's got to stop.
And he's right.
I don't know why our governors aren't doing anything other than they're weak or maybe they're open borders types.
Maybe they want to see this big global agenda.
I don't know.
But I do know this.
It's going to stop.
And it's going to stop in January of 2023.
And we are going to win this election.
tim pool
We'll hold you to it.
kari lake
Oh yeah, that's why they're, that's why they're writing hit pieces every week.
That's why they're attacking me.
That's why they're going so hard.
I think I'm their least favorite person other than Donald Trump right now because they know I'm not in politics because I want a career in politics.
I'm in politics because I'm a fed up mom who's sick of seeing our state being trampled and is sick of seeing the crime and the drugs come in.
I want to get in there, stop this insanity and get back to my life.
tim pool
What do you think about Ron DeSantis?
kari lake
Love him.
tim pool
We need more governors like him as well.
kari lake
We're gonna get one.
tim pool
Right, from the sound of it.
It's fascinating how the Never Trumper types.
Chris Ruffo.
You're familiar with Christopher Ruffo?
kari lake
No, who is that?
tim pool
He's, how would you describe him?
One of the leading academics on critical race theory and gender ideology.
lydia smith
Yeah, he's been writing critical race theory stuff in the Pacific Northwest for like years now.
He's great.
tim pool
He said that DeSantis is basically the litmus test for never-Trumpers because they should support him.
He's got military experience.
He's well-spoken.
He's not, you know, crass.
He's conservative.
kari lake
It's wonderful.
tim pool
And they don't support him.
kari lake
He's effective.
tim pool
Right.
But so why is it that these never-Trumper conservatives don't support DeSantis?
They have no good reason.
kari lake
Like Trump and DeSantis and even Kristi Noem to an extent and like I'm going to be, we are going to be effective and we're going to show how worthless this last generation of politicians have been.
Trump exposed all of that.
He made everyone look like a big fool.
They made us believe that it took 20 years to get one little thing done, a bridge built, the money for a bridge to be built.
I mean we had a town in Arizona that, a big community, where every time it rained the road would flood and you couldn't pass it.
You couldn't pass over going from one side of town to the other.
And so you had to take a 40-mile detour.
They were begging, begging, begging for federal dollars to build a bridge so that this town basically could function when it rained.
It took him 20 years.
It took, I think, dozens of people had to die in that flooded road.
And that's what we were taught, that that's how long it takes the federal government.
It's like a cold day, molasses flowing on a cold day, you can't get anything done.
Trump goes in and boom, right away, he says all these promises, and everyone said he'll never do it.
Boom, he starts going down his to-do list and gets everything done while he's being simultaneously attacked by the swamp.
Attacked by the media and we realized oh my gosh He's the he's the effective one.
ian crossland
These other people are just lifers who are You know don't care about us It'll be cool if when your governor if you have like a local state thing where people in their localities can vote even like on an app or something to redirect a portion of their tax funds their state tax funds to like local issues and then if they can get enough people to swipe right on their issue and allocate like 1% So like a Tinder for tax money?
kari lake
Is that what Tinder is?
tim pool
I love this idea.
The general idea is obviously you can't do with all taxes, but there could be like a certain percentage where it's like, let's see how the people feel about these issues.
And you could be like, download the app.
Take the survey and the vote on what issue you think and then we'll show everybody how everyone on the app voted.
What if they said bots?
kari lake
Swipe right or left is yes.
ian crossland
Swipe right is yes.
kari lake
Okay, swipe right is good.
tim pool
The bots thing is difficult.
ian crossland
Right is correct.
tim pool
Bots.
That's difficult.
ian crossland
Yeah, you'd have to sign up with your social security number.
You'd be a citizen.
You'd have local whatever.
kari lake
That's great.
We could do that.
Wouldn't it be nice if we did that with federal money?
I wonder how many people would have swiped right for the $58 billion going to Ukraine.
ian crossland
Yeah.
And in those situations, I imagine we would still have like black budget, 30%.
You're not allowed to spend less than that.
You just have to accept fire department, police department.
It's going to be great out at 7%.
tim pool
But there could be stuff like a new skate park or a tennis court.
kari lake
I'll guarantee you the wall would have been built a long time ago.
And I'll guarantee you Ukraine would not be taking our tax money.
ian crossland
It works with like popular support.
I mean, we are a popular support government.
It's you vote to get the people and if you could vote for the things you want as well.
tim pool
That's the appearance.
Let's jump to this story.
Carrie, you said that you're getting the Trump treatment.
kari lake
I got the Washington Post after me.
tim pool
You got the Washington Post after you, and they published this opinion piece.
Please, Republicans, don't nominate Carrie Lake for Arizona governor.
You know what?
As soon as I see that, I put on my They Live sunglasses, and I can see them saying, help us, please, if this woman actually wins and starts going after the establishment.
When I see a story that's from the Washington Post, my immediate reaction is, I'm going to do the opposite of what you're asking me to do.
mary morgan
It's like they're using reverse psychology.
kari lake
I think I just got endorsed.
Who do they think is listening to them?
tim pool
Yeah, who do they think they are?
kari lake
This is the best endorsement you can get.
tim pool
Washington Post being like, no!
kari lake
Yes, and then our local paper, which is the most liberal rag, you know, west of the Mississippi, is saying, you've got to please, independents, get in there and vote against her.
I'm not radical.
I'm America first.
tim pool
So let me read this portion.
It says, you can see this for yourself.
Her campaign launch video featured her hitting TVs with a sledgehammer and burning face masks.
kari lake
All right, I'm already digging it.
tim pool
I love it.
ian crossland
Show me the sledgehammer.
tim pool
Whatever your opinion is on masks, it's like, are you telling people?
Smashing TVs just sounds like entertaining.
mary morgan
Sounds like James O'Keefe.
kari lake
I'm smashing the fake news is what I was doing.
tim pool
Her 4th of July celebration rally was held at a gun range where attendees were offered a chance to fire a machine gun.
kari lake
OK.
tim pool
That's awesome.
That sounds so cool.
On Monday, she tweeted F and I cannot stress this enough, JB.
kari lake
It's read F and I cannot stress this enough, JB.
tim pool
In response to the news that the Justice Department is suing Arizona over its new election law,
Lake's outrageous showmanship apparently knows no bounds.
The Washington Post was purchased by Jeff Bezos.
It is the establishment, mega-corporation, nightmare dystopian embodiment, and when they say don't do something, it's the thing you need to do.
kari lake
Absolutely.
When I saw that, I'm like, oh my gosh, I think that might push us right over the edge and we'll win.
tim pool
I want to tell you, you know, I hear you talking about the border and America First and these things, and I know deep down there's a lot of people who are probably like, how much of this do you actually mean and how much is just rhetoric?
And to be fair, in my younger days, when Trump was running, I didn't care.
I didn't vote for anybody.
But I gotta be honest, seeing Trump, seeing Ron DeSantis, kinda put the fire back in me where I actually believe that we can win and elect people who are actually gonna do what they say they're gonna do.
kari lake
I'm absolutely gonna do what I say I'm gonna do.
That's why Dr. Evil's newspaper, is that what we call him?
Jeff Bezos, Dr. Evil?
That's why they're afraid of me.
That's why they're going, I've never seen a barrage of negative media, most of it lies.
After one person since President Trump, they're so worried about us because they know I can't be bought, I can't be bribed.
I mean, I walked away from money.
Money means nothing.
First of all, they're printing it and they're trying to devalue the dollar and crash the economy.
What good is a paycheck?
What good is all of that if we don't have a country?
We're at the point right now.
I used to say the 11th hour.
I think we're in the final minutes of the existence of America if we don't get in there and do some really bold, big things.
And that's why they're scared to death of me and they're writing these articles, because I am going to do what I say I'm going to do.
tim pool
Well, so you have this, what would you describe this as, like a little poster about your opponent?
kari lake
Yeah.
tim pool
Karen Taylor Robson, Arizona's most liberal Republican.
So the one thing that immediately strikes me is anti-Second Amendment.
kari lake
Oh, but she tries to say she's pro 2A.
Here's the thing, Doug Ducey, our governor, appointed her to the Board of Regents.
That's the governing board for all of our state universities.
And while there, she voted to expand, expand, expand these gun-free zones.
I don't even call them that.
They're sitting duck zones.
Our children are sitting ducks in these gun-free zones.
Whenever you see gun-free zone, you know that you're not protected.
Let's face it, Arizona's universities are growing.
ASU is a big university.
I think it's the biggest one in the country now.
And they're moving it outside.
It used to be just kind of in Tempe.
And it's grown, grown, grown.
Now they've got a campus in downtown Phoenix.
They've got one in Mesa.
They've got one all over.
And that's great.
I'm all for that.
But I'm not for walking through downtown Phoenix in an open carry state.
I'm carrying my sidearm.
I walk across the street to go get a coffee and all of a sudden I don't have Second Amendment rights.
tim pool
Yeah, that's crazy.
kari lake
And that's what gun-free zones are.
And she tries to act like she cares about our Second Amendment.
tim pool
Do people genuinely believe that the criminal who wants to cause harm to someone is going to walk up, the sign sitting there creates some kind of force field that stops them from penetrating the street.
I can't get in, what's happening?
ian crossland
That would be a good comic to show strip after strip of the guy like prepping for the killing, you know, he's like getting his guns ready, he's loading his guns, he's looking at social media, and then he goes to the place and he sees the sign and he looks all sad and turns away.
kari lake
I think it was Texas again that I saw the sign at a school that said, we have armed people in this school.
Don't come in. I mean if you're going to come in and try to cause problem, you're going out in either a body bag or
stretcher.
But you're not going to come in here and hurt us.
And that's what we need actually. We need armed security.
We have armed security everywhere in this country.
You go to a basketball game, you go to a mall, businesses have armed security.
Where I used to work had armed security.
But we don't have armed security for our little babies?
ian crossland
At the very least, do not publicize that it's a disarmed area.
That's insane.
tim pool
That's so crazy.
ian crossland
You at least want to lie about it and pretend like you don't have weapons when you do or you do when you don't.
tim pool
In a gun-free zone, where people don't have guns, when a bad person defies the sign and enters with a gun, who do the administrators call?
People with guns.
kari lake
Somebody with a gun.
tim pool
To come and help them.
kari lake
And every single incident throughout all time, the only way you stop somebody who's killing with a gun is somebody who's got a gun to stop them.
Or another weapon to stop them.
tim pool
Well, you could have, like, a crack team of special agents who, like, climb through the vents and then jump down and, like, put them kind of headlocked.
kari lake
Like in the movies?
tim pool
Like in the movies.
But I would just say, realistically, it's people being armed.
mary morgan
But even with armed security, think about Parkland.
Their armed security didn't save them.
And then Yuvaldi, they called the cops.
The cops didn't help them.
kari lake
It was, I think, moms and dads were trying to get in.
Moms and dads were trying to get in.
tim pool
Armed Texans were trying to get in.
Some did.
And the cops were stopping them.
So the administration of the law, as they've been doing it, clearly isn't working.
kari lake
We the people need to protect ourselves, and that's why we need the Second Amendment.
I truly believe that the only reason we have a country right now, because everything else has fallen to pieces, is because that Second Amendment.
It's the only thing keeping us a country right now.
We don't have freedom of speech.
Our First Amendment rights have been trampled.
Our churches got shut down.
I know.
I don't feel like I have freedom of speech like some people do.
Everywhere I go, I ask people, how do you feel about your First Amendment rights?
Are they fully intact?
Do you have them?
Do you have perfect First Amendment rights right now?
And nobody raises their hand.
tim pool
Where's the redress of grievances?
You know, how do we handle that?
Because that doesn't seem to be happening.
kari lake
No, you're right.
But our Second Amendment is what's keeping us a country.
The minute they take that, and they're trying right now, we do crumble.
And we will not give those rights up.
And I'm not speaking like a normal politician.
I'm not a politician.
I guess they can call me that now.
And so I don't pull things before I ask.
But I do look to the Constitution.
And this we're not letting go of.
They can try and they say, oh, it was written by slave owners.
You know, all this garbage they're trying to say about our Constitution.
And this is the only document that we should be looking to to save our country right now.
tim pool
A lot of people have talked about national divorce.
What are your thoughts on that?
Have you heard people talking about that?
kari lake
Tell me what that is.
I've heard a little bit about it.
tim pool
Well, there are people who believe that we're headed towards a civil war unless there's an amicable split and these blue states just form their own union and the red states form their own union.
So the peaceful divorce that people have referred to it as.
kari lake
I think you go back to sovereign states, and then you decide where you want to live.
If what you see in California is what you like, then you stay there.
If you don't, you go to a state like Arizona.
I don't know if that's what you're referring to as a national divorce, but that's a great way to decide.
tim pool
That's federalism, right?
kari lake
Yeah.
tim pool
The idea that the states are sovereign, there's a weaker federal government, and that's great.
I actually support that.
Right now, the Democrats are losing their minds because the Supreme Court said we do not have the authority to dictate what states do as it pertains to abortion.
Congress would have to codify something, but for the time being, it's to the states.
So you have activists in blue states demanding that red states live the way they want them to live.
If you have Arizona or Texas or Florida saying, you guys do your thing and we'll do ours, but then California, Illinois, and New York are saying, no, you will do as you're told, then it seems inevitable there's going to be some kind of clash.
You can't function that way, right?
kari lake
No, you can't.
You just say, well, I'm sorry you feel that way, but we're going to do our thing.
We're going to do it the Arizona way.
But this, so this would be... Are you suggesting they're going to take, you know, violence against us because we're doing things the Arizona way?
tim pool
It just, it gets to a point where the federal government is shown to have, the emperor has no clothes, right?
I suppose the lightest view of it would be the Supreme Court says what California, or not even the Supreme Court, what California is doing with an immigration sanctuary state.
They're letting these people come in.
Here's the problem.
California is allowing illegal immigrants en masse.
They're giving them free health care.
In New York, they're even trying to give them the right to vote, but that got blocked by a judge.
Presidential votes go through the Electoral College.
Congress, our laws in this country, Go through congressional districts.
Congressional districts are set not by the amount of citizens, but by the amount of people in general.
So when California allows non-citizens in, they get more presidential votes and they get more votes in Congress.
Stealing the rights of, say, the people of Arizona, that is a problem.
And so you now recently California's lost ton of their population.
kari lake
So they're coming to Arizona.
tim pool
Yeah, they lost a congressional seat.
But you look at what some of these states are doing when they're like, we will not abide
by federal law.
And eventually it starts breaking down.
I don't know where it goes.
But I also know that in New Ham- I think it's New Hampshire.
kari lake
So you're not saying the illegal population grows and the illegal population is voting.
They're, you know, not allowed to vote.
tim pool
They don't need to vote.
kari lake
Even though the Department of Justice is trying to fight us on that in Arizona right now, we will fight them right back.
But you're saying just the population growth when we do the census gives them a free congressional seat?
A new seat, yeah.
tim pool
And it was just before the latest census, California, I believe, was estimated to have one extra congressional seat based on allowing illegal immigrants in the state.
That means the citizens of Texas, of Arizona, of Florida, Lose voting power at the federal level because the members of Congress is locked in.
They lose representational power because of non-citizens being illegally allowed in the country.
kari lake
This is why President Trump wanted to have that question on the census.
That's right.
And it's a fair question.
It's a fair question.
It does hurt other states.
And he wasn't allowed to do that.
Think about who fought him on that.
ian crossland
It's interesting if non-citizens, no matter what state they're in, just add to the whole.
So if every state has 150th, and then you get 7,000 new immigrants going to one state illegally, it just adds to the 150th across the board.
No one state gets to benefit from the non-citizens.
Well, that's the Senate.
tim pool
That's the Senate.
ian crossland
Well, I'm talking about just for congressional seats in general.
tim pool
Congressional seats are, they do the census and then it increases every time.
It's like 770,000 people per district on average or something like that because people are, there's more people.
kari lake
We grew, we had a huge population growth and we did not get an extra seat.
We really expected to get a 10th congressional seat and we didn't.
I still think there was something not quite right about that.
tim pool
People need to understand that California sends, how many do they have, like 35?
How many congressional districts do they have, do you know?
ian crossland
I don't know, let's find out.
tim pool
Look it up.
kari lake
Somebody get on it.
tim pool
Yeah, they send, maybe it's 37.
Let's see what you got.
What's the number?
Fact check.
ian crossland
I'm so glad I learned how to type in high school.
kari lake
That's one of those skills you need, right?
ian crossland
So fast.
kari lake
I mean, that's one of the greatest classes I took as well.
ian crossland
It reduced from 53 seats to 52.
unidentified
I was wrong?
tim pool
52?
Wow.
What was 53?
kari lake
You just flipped them.
You said 35.
This is from a 2020 census.
tim pool
Sending 52 people to vote in Congress and you're wondering why it is Democrats have so much power in Congress.
California is not cooperating on immigration laws.
They're offering benefits to non-citizens like health care and schooling.
They're incentivizing more people to come.
Then the census happens.
Then they're given an extra congressional seat.
They get more voting power by allowing people to come in and break federal law.
The federal government can't enforce that law without the assistance of local enforcement, and California won't do it.
This is evil, dark stuff.
And the point is, at a certain point, the people of any other state are going to say, why did we lose this vote at the federal level on, say, gun control, by one to California?
Those votes came from people who aren't citizens.
kari lake
I think the solution is let's follow our immigration laws.
We got plenty of them on the books.
ian crossland
what you're saying. Exactly. I think I think a solution is I'll reiterate like if 50 new people
go into California that are not citizens every state gets one of them towards their census.
kari lake
I think the solution is let's follow our immigration laws we got plenty of them on
the books we're not following them and no longer allow illegal immigration.
This is pretty basic stuff.
Secure the border.
President Trump was trying to get us there.
Ask those questions on the census so we know how many illegal immigrants are living there and you don't get to count them in that number.
tim pool
Well, I hear what Ian's saying.
I hear your idea.
Like, if 50 illegal immigrants go to California, then every state gets to count one of those people towards their state.
ian crossland
Yes.
tim pool
Here's what we got to do.
On the census, we need them to fill out a question as to whether or not they're citizens.
And they could lie.
ian crossland
They could lie, though.
tim pool
That's because they didn't want ICE to go round people up and rip up families, basically.
Donald Trump, oh you know what, he would have done that when he said he wanted the citizenship
question on the census and they blocked him and said he couldn't do it.
How insane is that?
ian crossland
That's because they didn't want ICE to go round people up and rip up families basically.
kari lake
I think it was more of a one.
tim pool
What is the job of ICE?
ian crossland
Go break up families and send people out of the country.
tim pool
Break up families.
Well, rip up- What is the legitimate actual job description for us?
ian crossland
To throw illegal immigrants out of the country, essentially.
tim pool
It is immigration and customs enforcement.
kari lake
Customs enforcement.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
So sometimes there's a person who's not a citizen who kills someone.
They go and arrest him.
It's not about hunting down anybody or breaking up families.
ian crossland
Well, if they know someone's there illegally, then they have a duty to go- Enforce the law?
Extricate them.
tim pool
To enforce the law?
ian crossland
Yes, enforce the law.
tim pool
Well, they should enforce the law.
ian crossland
Uh, in certain situations, but in some situations when the kid's been born, the United States is 17 years old and the mom's 50, but an illegal citizen.
Yeah, but if the mom's 50 and not, you go there and remove a 50-year-old mom and then the 17-year-old has no mother.
Like, that's unethical, at least you could argue.
tim pool
I think the challenge is that argument is, it's an emotional argument that perpetuates the crisis and creates more suffering.
kari lake
Right, and keeps people from wanting to really deal with the more common issue, which is people pouring across the border illegally.
It's like when you concentrate on that, and which really isn't happening very infrequently, you're missing the boat on what we really need to be doing, which is enforcing our immigration laws And protecting the people of this country.
The more people we keep letting in, we're watering down what it means to be an American.
We're watering down everything that we're paying into as American citizens.
Services are being watered down and we don't have access to it.
We're watering down the job situation for middle class families.
We're competing now for low wage.
The low wage workers are coming in and bringing our wages down.
It's hurting the middle class.
tim pool
Let me give you a scenario, Ian.
So there are a lot of memes where people say we could end starvation around the world.
We have enough food to feed all starving people.
Why aren't we doing it?
ian crossland
Because tomorrow they're going to be hungry again.
tim pool
It's not about that.
It's that we have the capacity to make enough food to make it so they're never hungry again.
ian crossland
Teach a man to fish.
unidentified
Don't give him fish.
tim pool
Do you know why we don't just go to starving nations and just give them food?
ian crossland
Because then they overpopulate.
tim pool
They have kids.
And then, within a few years, now you have twice as many starving people.
And you're like, hey wait a minute, we increased suffering in the world.
So you can't just give food to someone.
You gotta teach them to grow and sustain their own economies and their own food sources.
That's the issue.
When you have someone come here illegally, To have a kid and try and give them citizenship to exploit and break the law.
It causes pain and suffering and damage.
So it's kind of crazy.
This idea that people have where it's like a woman when she was in her 20s was pregnant, came to the United States and had a kid.
The kid is now seven years old.
So the police are going to come and arrest the mother and send her back to Mexico or to Guatemala or whatever.
And then they go, you can't do that.
She has a kid now that would cause suffering.
And it's like, yo, she broke the law.
Like, the people who live here agree with.
It's like, there's something about scale that Democrats don't seem to understand, where simply because they don't see it happening, they don't care.
ian crossland
What?
tim pool
Like, someone broke into your house, and then invited their friend in, and their friend would be homeless if you kicked him out?
Yeah, sorry dude, get out.
ian crossland
Well, why is the kid of an illegal immigrant an American?
tim pool
14th Amendment.
But what?
Is it 14th, I think?
ian crossland
Is that redundant now?
Like, why?
I don't understand.
Just because a kid's born on this side of the line.
tim pool
It's actually an exploitation of the Constitution.
The original idea around birthright citizenship was to... It was after the Civil War.
The Dred Scott decision said that descendants of Africa could not be citizens of this country.
After the Civil War, we amended the Constitution, I believe it was the 14th that said this, that if you're born here, you're a citizen.
This was basically to say, all of those people who are former slaves, you're citizens.
But it became, if you're born here, you're just a citizen.
Like, almost no country does that.
Almost none.
I think there's like two or three, or something like that.
kari lake
There's an argument to be made that, as you call it, the anchor babies, that you could fight that.
tim pool
That's an offensive term.
kari lake
Well, that's what they call it.
If you know border states deal with this problem, like for example, Yuma, Arizona, their maternity ward's at 125%.
Americans aren't really having a lot of babies these days, but people come across the border, they even call it birth tourism.
tim pool
Exactly.
kari lake
You come here, you're seven months pregnant, you stay a couple months, and you have the baby here, and now you have an American citizen.
That's why they call that the anchor baby because it anchors the family here.
tim pool
And there's something called chain migration.
In China, there's an industry where they will fly pregnant women because you get dual citizenship.
Now your kid's a citizen of the United States, you bring them back to China when they're old enough.
When you have a kid here, what they do is now they're a citizen, they then can file sponsorship to bring other people along.
kari lake
The entire family.
ian crossland
No, it's an exploit.
It's got to be dealt with.
I'm very compassionate towards humans in general and But that's insanity that you can just let someone the kid the kids already we're talking about Roe v. Wade and it's a human it's already a person according to a lot of these people anyway.
So like what's the difference of when it exits the birth canal?
kari lake
I'm trying to find the law.
I think it was an 1885 law that talks about that, but I can't think of it off the top of my head.
I'm going to look it up.
You know, these are questions we have to ask as a country, and we are compassionate people, Americans are.
But when are we going to start using our brains?
We can't have open borders with people pouring across, or we won't have a country.
Our citizenship will mean nothing.
It'll mean nothing to be an American if we just let people pour in, and we don't know who's coming in.
When President Trump said they're not sending their best and brightest, he's right.
The stats show thousands of people coming in who are murder suspects, DUI suspects, rape suspects.
Some really bad people are coming in.
Terrorists are coming in.
And I'm not saying everybody who's coming in is a really bad person, but we're allowing really bad people, the cartels, to control our immigration.
Can you imagine?
These narco terrorists are in control of our immigration right now.
We aren't.
I'm not comfortable with that.
I'm not comfortable with the people coming in, living in a border state.
Our streets are not safe.
I used to feel safe walking across the parking lot in the middle of the day or at night and I don't feel safe anymore.
tim pool
Yeah.
Let's go to Super Chats!
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You don't want to miss it.
It's the After Hours uncensored show.
But let's read some of these Super Chats.
Nick Koenig says, Hey Tim, when will you have Alex Jones on again?
All of his episodes are awesome.
Um, I don't know, maybe soon.
You know, what we want to do is we want to do Friday night live IRL at venue at a venue where we would sell like a couple hundred tickets.
So there's a live audience watching the show.
It would be interesting.
Cause then we'd have to do stage blocking where it's like everyone would sit on one side of the table, you know, Ian, you know, that's right.
ian crossland
Oh yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
But I would love to have Alex, uh, come down for that.
So, you know, we'll reach out and, uh, how cool would it be if we did a Friday night event?
It was an extended show.
It was like a three hour show.
And then we had Alex and maybe somebody else and it's just live in front of everybody and on YouTube, of course, that'd be a whole lot of fun.
But, uh, all right, let's see.
We got Marshall P says, I heard some promo with Carrie Lake recently.
She is a warrior.
Love her.
kari lake
Thank you, Marshall.
tim pool
Well, there you go.
kari lake
Appreciate it.
There's a warrior inside all of us, right?
ian crossland
Yeah, you ever see that meme of the guy with two wolves?
One is hate and one is love and you have to control them both?
I don't know what it is.
kari lake
Well, we did this poster behind me.
I don't know, Colton, can you grab one of them?
I want to show it because somebody said it looks like a superhero.
I just happen to have it in Arizona.
We have the coolest flag in Arizona.
And I guess this is me with my warrior spirit, but I just happen to have that on and we were trying to show off the, here it is.
So, I guess what I'm showing here is that there is a warrior in all of us, and we just have to find that kind of fighting spirit.
I think we've got the DNA of our founding fathers.
I did not realize they were 18 and 19 year olds, but they were warriors.
And we've got that in us, and I think we're at a time right now where we all need to tap into that energy and say, we're going to protect this country, save this country, and do the right thing.
And sometimes it's uncomfortable.
We have to have these conversations where you go, but you're not being compassionate.
No, actually, we are being compassionate.
Because when we don't follow the laws that are put forth, we're hurting other people.
We're hurting Arizonans, we're hurting Americans.
tim pool
All right, we got this from Kenk.
He says, Carrie, as an Australian, I want to commend you on how you handled yourself during your interview with Liam Bartlett.
The most embarrassing thing is he's not even our worst journalist, not even close.
kari lake
Ooh, really?
There's worse out there?
I thought Liam was the absolute worst that we ever faced.
Colton, is he the worst we ever faced?
I agreed to do it.
I thought, okay, 60 Minutes wants to talk to us, Australia, about the rise of the Trump Republican, the America First movement, what's coming after Trump.
So we agreed to do it.
We sat down and he's interviewing us from Australia via laptop.
This guy had a raging case, stage four Trump derangement syndrome.
Every question was just attacking me.
I'm looking around going, did President Trump sneak into the room?
It's just me in here.
Absolute lunatic.
Doesn't even realize what's going on in the world.
We talked about our gun rights and our Second Amendment, and we talked about how they have no freedom because they melted down their guns in Australia.
It's a great interview.
Go to my Rumble page and take a look at it.
It might be the most deranged reporter I've ever dealt with, and I've dealt with some of them.
tim pool
All right, Cigars and Sigarm says, Carrie, if elected governor, what is your plan on addressing the disturbing trend of police brutality in cities like Mesa, Tempe, and Prescott?
kari lake
Well, I think we frankly need to take some of the pressure off of our police and right now our police force is so under, not only underfunded because the craziest idea in the world was defund the police, but police and good police are walking away because they don't, the pressure, they're understaffed, they're overworked.
They're being ripped apart in the media and called the bad guys.
And there's a lot of pressure on them.
And I think when you have that kind of pressure on officers, sometimes you're going to have situations like you're talking about.
They're not all perfect, just like all human beings.
I think, though, that the majority of police are really good and want to do the right thing.
tim pool
I think when we started seeing all these cops resign, and I think we just saw a news story about a ton of cops resigning in New York.
You're not left with no police, like some people would hope.
You're left with the bad ones.
kari lake
And then on top of it, during COVID, I know we can't talk about the shot in the arm, but they were taking our first responders.
We're already understaffed.
I mean, some police departments aren't half staffing.
In Arizona, I think we're three or four hundred cops down.
And then they all of a sudden say, you know what, if you don't get the shot in the arm, You're out.
tim pool
So they were mandating.
kari lake
They were mandating that.
And so who's the kind of person that's going to say no to that?
I think strong, constitutionally minded people are going to say hell no.
And those are the police you want, frankly, the people who follow the Constitution, who believe in individual rights.
We want those people on our police force.
And those were the kind of police they were pushing away.
ian crossland
In Arizona, were they making them take the jab?
kari lake
Yeah.
ian crossland
Could, if you became governor, can you undo that?
kari lake
We're going to work on that.
We are absolutely, one of my top priorities is that.
This is outrageous to have any boss, an employer, tell you medically what you have to do.
Some medical, you know, you talked about vasectomies.
Can you imagine if your employer said, yeah, you can work here, but I need proof that you've had a vasectomy.
tim pool
That's crazy.
kari lake
Stop this.
This is craziness.
tim pool
We have one.
This one is, um, I'll just read it.
Wolf on the Plain says, Tim, it's future Madam President Carrie Lake.
Address her properly.
She should be our first female POTUS.
She's got my vote.
kari lake
Is he in Arizona?
I don't know, but... Because the ballots are out, and what we need to do is we've got the young people voting.
We need to get the young people to fill out those ballots and send them in.
That's really nice.
Let me first take on the job in Arizona.
I don't have political aspirations.
I think I'm probably the only person in politics who really I look at politics and it's slimy, it's gross.
I just want to get in and get Arizona on the right track.
I don't have any aspirations beyond that, but I take that as a huge compliment.
Thank you.
tim pool
Yeah, you answered before I could ask, but I assume your answer would be, I'm going to focus on my gubernatorial campaign because people are asking Ron DeSantis as well.
And he's like, look, I'm running for governor in Florida.
Talk about presidential aspirations after, later on.
kari lake
I'll let Ron go that direction.
I just want to get Arizona on track.
I hate Washington, D.C.
No offense.
At least I really hate it right now with Joe Biden there.
I love Arizona and I want to do right by the people of Arizona.
So that's my concentration right now.
tim pool
So it'll be 2028 DeSantis Lake ticket, huh?
kari lake
I do love Ron DeSantis.
That guy is fantastic.
And he gets it.
I don't know that he had media training.
I mean, he wasn't in the media before, but I believe his wife, is it Casey, was in the media.
So maybe she's kind of worked with him because he knows exactly how to deal with these people in the media.
Half of them are losers, maybe more.
tim pool
He's fearless.
kari lake
Yeah.
unidentified
All right.
Yeah.
ian crossland
His wife, Casey, won an Emmy.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
kari lake
And I want to say that I think President Trump knows how to deal with the media as well.
He's a little more brash and maybe not as polished.
Some people say that I'm like Trump in a dress, which might help me get some Democrat votes, actually.
But, you know, President Trump was one of the first politicians to go after the media and call them out.
And thank God he did, because he opened people's eyes.
tim pool
You are fake news.
Remember that?
kari lake
Yeah, you are fake news.
tim pool
That was good.
unidentified
I dig it.
tim pool
All right, let's see.
Kyle Ellis says, Tim, please read this.
I'm from one of the three poorest counties in Ohio.
The only thing we have is natural gas.
Biden is doing everything he can to keep the gas in the ground and keep rural folks poor and dependent on the government.
ian crossland
What county?
I want to know.
kari lake
Well, rural America is being put on the back burner.
Actually, they're not even on the stove.
And it's happening in Arizona.
We've got a county, Maricopa County, where the main population is six and a half, seven million people live there.
The rest of the people live throughout the state.
And they don't get the attention they need.
They pay into the taxes.
But the voting base, Maricopa County is so massive, 65-70% of the vote comes from Maricopa County.
So a lot of politicians, they just concentrate on the city centers.
And they just say, screw the rest of them.
And we are going to be the first governor who says, no, we are putting rural Arizona, small town Arizona on the front burner.
They've been ignored for far too long.
Like I said, I mentioned that, that bridge over that, um, that wash that was flooding every time it rained and they couldn't, can you imagine you have to drive a 40 minute, a 40 minute detour to get, you know, a quarter of a mile?
People were just driving through the flooded road, and it was killing people.
But they get ignored, they get ignored, and we need to start putting the hard-working people, tax-paying people, backbone of our country, on the front burner, giving them some attention.
tim pool
All right, let's read this.
We got Gino Brown says, Hey Carrie, shared this with my family, hoping they see how awesome you are.
Policy question.
As governor, do you have a plan to convince the state Democrats to work with Republicans in the interest of saving Arizonans from these upcoming hardships?
kari lake
Just all hardships in general.
I'd love to work with the Democrats I mean, I I like to call myself an America first candidate.
I'm a conservative running as a Republican I believe the Republican Party is based on conservative values and that's what our country was based on but the left is always kind of evil genius when they when it comes to words and they've tried to castigate what it means to be a conservative and Being a conservative means that you want policies that help Americans, help you prosper, but get the government out of your way.
We're not supposed to be your babysitter and giving handouts.
We're supposed to create an environment where you can live the American dream.
tim pool
And we've had progressives on this show who said the goal of government is to provide the services to the people.
And I'm just like, we're all like, no!
kari lake
The goal of government really should be to protect our border, to be honest.
Make sure we have roads that we can travel on and are safe.
tim pool
It's like common defense.
kari lake
Yeah, real basic and get back.
So I think we can work together.
I think people are waking up.
I think people are fleeing the Democrat Party right now in droves, in droves.
And I'm excited about it.
They're waking up.
As they wake up, I want them to come right over to the Republican Party.
It's the party of common sense, the party of ideas that work, and the party of safety and security.
And so I hope they'll come over and that'll help us deal with some of these problems.
We're going to have, I believe, a super majority and get a lot of things done.
tim pool
All right.
We got a good one here from Wathick.
He says he joined a little late, but forgive me if it's already been brought up.
He wanted to ask, what are your views and plans on Arizona water and sustainability?
I'm especially concerned with the Colorado River Compact.
kari lake
We have a water issue in Arizona.
I mean, we actually do have a lot of water underground, but we can't conserve our way out of a drought and we can't regulate our way out of a drought.
And I can't solve the water problem here on the Timcast tonight.
It's a very complex water situation.
We've been trying to deal with it for years.
But one thing I do know is Arizona is growing.
As these blue states lose their minds and go crazy, people are running to our great red states.
And we're going to have that growth.
So we need to look at bringing more water in.
Because Arizona is going to keep growing and we don't want to have water become an issue where we can't sustain that growth.
I want to look at piping water in from the Mississippi and Missouri River Basin.
We've got the right-of-way.
We pipe oil from all over the country.
Well, we used to before Joe Biden.
And from Alaska, we can build pipes and pipe water easily.
We could mitigate flooding in the Midwest and other parts of the country and bring water to Arizona.
tim pool
One thing that is not a permanent solution, but if you look at Las Vegas, they've actually started terraforming and reclaiming the desert by tourism.
So what people don't realize is when that plane flies into Vegas, it's carrying several hundred people who are full of water.
Those people get off the plane, sweat, use the bathroom, and that water enters the local area and they leave it there.
It then evaporates and you start seeing... I mean, aside from that, they're planting grass, but there's a massive terraforming... I don't know if that's gonna totally solve our problem.
Well, no, what I'm saying is, one thing to consider is, Las Vegas is actually What's the word?
kari lake
Desalination.
tim pool
No, desertification.
It's a desert.
There's no water.
But all of the food being shipped in, all of the people that come and go are bringing water and leaving it there and the water remains and then you see clouds starting to form.
So now Las Vegas is actually starting to get moisture back.
kari lake
We need to look at every idea and one of them is desalination and right now we're looking at maybe having a desalination plant with our neighbors in Mexico.
Sadly, we can't work with California because the regulations and their politics are so kooky that we can't work with them, but we'd like to.
They should have desal plants up and down that coastline.
They have one in the San Diego area.
It's working great.
And you can do private-public partnerships to get the capital down to get these built.
We'll work with Mexico if we have to.
We desalinate water from the Sea of Cortez.
We could either give Mexico that water and then trade their Colorado River allotment or we could also pump in water from the Sea of Cortez that's been desalinated.
We have a lot of water underground in Arizona that's brackish and we could desalinate that.
We need to look at every single option.
tim pool
Brackish water underground?
unidentified
Yeah.
kari lake
How does that open?
I don't know how it's brackish, but we can clean it up and use it.
I think we need to look at everything, even the big pie-in-the-sky ideas.
You know, it was like 40 years ago, the Central Arizona Project, our aquifer system was developed, and everyone thought it's impossible.
Oh, we can't.
It's just, it's too out there.
And we used to think big.
Back then, we had men in power and men who were leaders and women as well, but mainly men back then who thought big.
They thought, let's build the Palo Verde nuclear power plant.
Let's prepare for the future of Arizona.
Now we're in this area of big thinking is how can we get the taxpayers to pay for a sports arena?
ian crossland
You can use the salt from the desalination for molten salt reactors so that overnight the salt stays hot and liquid and then continues to boil water for steam power overnight.
And you can also build these solar powered water condensers, which where the air goes in through a tube down underground and then cools down with these cooling mechanisms that are powered by a solar generator and then condenses into water.
And then they're just local.
Like you can just have one on every street corner kind of thing.
tim pool
You got the water in the air.
So there's a survival stuff they sell where it's like a big, a bunch of sheets.
kari lake
It's like a cube and it takes even in dry, very arid conditions, it can zap that water.
ian crossland
Especially underground.
kari lake
The water condenses from the air onto it and then it falls down into a container or some kind of We just have to look at every option and we need to get our federal delegation together and we're going to have Democrats in there and Republicans and I think this is an issue where we can come together because Democrats drink water and so do Republicans but we need to send our delegation, our congressmen and our senators back to D.C.
and say we want some help on the water issue and we're not going to sign off on a bunch of your projects until you help us.
It's not going to cost a lot of money Nothing costs a lot of money when you compare what they're sending to Ukraine.
We could have solved this problem with some of that money we sent to Ukraine.
Fixed this problem.
But they drag their feet, they drag their feet, they throw all of these EPA studies in and try to slow this.
And we're talking about water.
We can't go a day without water.
So I think if we put our heads together and we have the will to do right, we can make this happen.
And I want to be the governor that spearheads that.
tim pool
Right on.
So we have Opie who said, just got my ballot and voted Carrie Lake.
Let's fix AZ.
So people are already voting.
kari lake
Well, I'm smiling over here.
I don't mean to keep checking my phone, but the ballots just went out.
Now, obviously they're arriving at people's homes and I'm getting pictures left and right, like this one right here.
Someone just said, make us proud.
He just cast a vote for me.
tim pool
Right on.
kari lake
So I'm really excited about that and I will make them proud.
I've got people coming up to me on the campaign trail.
These are men who fought wars, saw combat.
Women who've lived to be 70, 80 years old and have had a really full life.
Moms, dads, you name it.
They come up to me and they grab me with tears in their eyes and they're like, please save Arizona.
I'm so worried about where we're going.
Please save it.
I would rather die than disappoint the people of Arizona.
I am not doing this for any other reason than I love Arizona.
I love the people.
I've covered this state for 27 years, and I've watched as over and over again, we get political figures who come in, promise one thing, do the opposite, and they leave the people behind, and they don't care about the people of Arizona.
And I'm tired of seeing that, and it's going to stop when I'm governor.
tim pool
All right, we got one.
This is a little edgier.
Joe Smith says, why are women like Carrie Lake, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Lauren Boebert, the only political leaders with balls?
And please forgive me, who is the absurdly cute young blonde woman?
Oh, okay, that's Mary, I guess.
kari lake
She is cute.
mary morgan
Thank you.
tim pool
But it is interesting, right?
kari lake
I actually get asked that a lot.
They're like, why don't we have any men?
We do have men with balls.
A lot of them.
tim pool
Trump, DeSantis?
kari lake
Trump, DeSantis, they're great.
I'm a mama bear to a baby.
I got two baby cubs, I told you.
I got a girl and a boy.
I'm really concerned about our boys right now.
I came from a family of eight girls and one boy.
That's where I grew up.
I was the youngest.
So I've always believed that I can do anything.
I never thought that being a woman meant I couldn't do something.
I'm worried about the environment our boys have been living in.
They've been pushed down, told to check their toxic masculinity, the Me Too movement.
They're probably even afraid to try to ask a girl out because it's just gotten so toxic.
I want to see us help strengthen our men right now.
And I think maybe men are reluctant to jump into politics, maybe because of that.
I don't look at people and go, we need to be in the female box, the male box.
We need to just all come together as Americans and do right, right now.
I think we've got great strong men in there.
Maybe it's odd or strange to see women who are just speaking the truth.
And we're kind of making some news out there, I guess.
tim pool
Alright.
Shino Tenshi says, thought you'd all like to know I'm getting kicked out of the Navy for hate speech due to a false allegation because of supporting Trump.
Their evidence was memes from 2017 and 18 on my phone and a book from the Babylon Bee.
kari lake
Oh wow.
tim pool
That's crazy.
kari lake
Military's gone woke.
What does Trump say everything woke?
I don't want to say it.
tim pool
Get woke, go broke.
ian crossland
Turns to poop?
kari lake
Yeah.
Don't make me swear.
tim pool
Get woke, go broke.
kari lake
You really don't want the military going woke.
That's the last thing you want going woke.
Or the schools, or really anything.
ian crossland
I heard that the military, the US military is the greatest polluting organism on earth.
If it was a corporation, it pollutes more than any, any other corporation, which I'm fine with.
Cause it's the military.
I mean, I don't like pollution, but like, you know, got to do the job first, clean the pollution up afterwards.
kari lake
Protect the people.
Right.
I hope he's, um, is he getting kicked out or did he get kicked out?
ian crossland
He said he was getting kicked out.
That's tragic actually, dude.
tim pool
All right.
Robbie Pratt says, Tim, when will you put a bug zapper in the chicken coop to provide free food for the chickens?
Buck, buck, buck.
That's a good idea.
kari lake
Are people talking about eating bugs?
I just saw a celebrity this week saying something about eating bugs.
tim pool
Oh, you don't eat bugs?
We all eat bugs here.
Yeah, we got some.
You want a bowl of crickets while we do the show?
Ian and I made a cricket bread once to try it out.
ian crossland
It was lackluster.
It wasn't special.
It was just cricket.
kari lake
And I think about the Pol Pot regime in Cambodia when they just destroyed that country and they had a huge, really, a holocaust, really.
I mean, they killed, was it two or three million people in Cambodia?
Pol Pot?
And when they marched people out of the cities, and that's when they started foraging for food, and they eat bugs.
And when I was in Cambodia, they still to this day forage for bugs and eat bugs.
ian crossland
Interesting.
tim pool
All right.
We have this one from Boxfed TV.
There's a lot here, so I don't know if we can get to all of it, because there's a lot of questions.
They say, love you, Carrie.
One, ban ATF in Arizona.
Ban FBI in Arizona.
Repeal Patriot Act.
We'll start there.
kari lake
Wow, okay, I'm writing notes.
What does he want me to do?
tim pool
Well, so I'll ask you this.
I think it was New Hampshire and Missouri have basically said they will not assist the federal government in enforcing gun laws.
Would you... Same.
You'd be in favor of the same thing in Arizona?
kari lake
Anything unconstitutional taking away from our Second Amendment rights.
We are a Second Amendment sanctuary state, and we're not going to take these gun laws that they're passing and enforce them.
tim pool
So you're already a sanctuary state for gun laws. Yeah.
Roll right on. I think that answers that question.
kari lake
But I think it's interesting that this last couple of weeks, I think it was maybe a week and a half ago, two weeks by
now, that they passed that, the Supreme Court ruled against the
EPA and some of these far overreaching agencies, where they're not elected officials, they're not elected by
the people, trying to control every aspect of our life.
And they found that they ruled against that.
So I think there's a lot of pushback we can do on some of these agencies.
And I think we've now got precedent that's been set by the Supreme Court.
tim pool
All right, let's read some more.
Trying to screen some super chats in the meantime.
All right, let's see what we got.
Charles Fritt says, Russia has been trying to get Ukraine to keep their food exports going the entire war, and Ukraine refuses to.
unidentified
Hmm.
tim pool
Well, all right.
Sparky says, Carrie, why didn't President Trump pardon Assange?
kari lake
Do you know?
I don't know.
I was like, I don't know if you know that.
I do talk to him regularly.
I've talked to him a couple times this week and last week.
Haven't asked that.
tim pool
I think I have an answer.
unidentified
Why?
tim pool
Donald Trump wanted Julian Assange extradited because I believe that Trump thinks Assange has evidence that will help Trump against the bureaucratic state, against those who are lying about him, against bad people.
So I think the Obama administration was content to effectively assassinate Julian Assange by locking him away and making it difficult for him to do any work.
Donald Trump was like, this guy knows something because Julian Assange was talking about Seth Rich.
So Trump was like, get him here.
Apparently there was some there was like a rumors about a deal where it was like you'll like give us information, let us know the truth and we'll let you go or something.
I think that's what Trump was trying to do.
So that's why he didn't pardon him.
But maybe we'll see what happens with this.
I think a second Trump term is going to be like, I don't know, rainbows and candy canes?
kari lake
Rainbows and lollipops?
tim pool
I think Trump's going to go in there and he's going to do everything people really wanted him to do.
kari lake
I say he's coming back and he's coming back with a vengeance.
tim pool
Yeah, he announced his plane.
kari lake
He showed it all renovated.
That is gorgeous, isn't it?
tim pool
Yeah.
Gorgeous.
Those things run like 20 million bucks.
20 million bucks for a 757.
Then you gotta staff it, you gotta fuel it.
kari lake
Love the way he had the flag on the back.
It wasn't just, it was like a furling flag.
Unfurled flag, I think of what you say.
tim pool
I got to watch that thing pull up at his rallies a couple times.
I think like three or four times.
Because I was covering his rallies in 2015 and 16.
So you'd be in the hangar and you'd see it just slowly inching up after it landed.
And then everyone's screaming and then, you know, they make their way in.
It was a sight to behold, that's for sure.
All right, let's see what we got.
Christopher Macy says, Tim, I'm the owner of Rebuilding Life Gardens LLC.
I started my own food forest and support Cary Lake and could help with food production and food insecurity.
Oh, very cool.
kari lake
That's awesome.
Is he in Arizona, I wonder?
tim pool
I'm assuming that means he's in Arizona.
kari lake
There's so many creative people and amazing people in Arizona.
I mean, we're the patriots that kind of got this whole thing looking into the election
going.
Arizonans, just to be in Arizona, obviously we have 22 native tribes there, but people
who came to Arizona, the pioneers who got into the covered wagons and came across, there's
a certain spirit to do that.
And that means your ancestors had that spirit.
Even if you came across the country to Arizona in 1970 or 1990 in a car, there's a certain kind of spirit of somebody who says, I'm going to relocate to a new state.
And we're really special people.
Sounds like he's one.
ian crossland
RebuildingLifeGardens.com is Phoenix, Arizona, LLC.
kari lake
All right.
ian crossland
That's the thing too.
tim pool
I think Trudeau mentioned it, that because of the American press, the culture is sort of seeping into Canada.
Carrie Lake, DeSantis, Christie and others showing Canadians, Alberta, Saskatchewan,
Northern Ottawa, the good in American values.
Liberals are scared.
MAGA.
That's the thing too, I think Trudeau mentioned it, that because of the American press, the
culture is sort of seeping into Canada.
You see it with like the trucker protest.
kari lake
Loved that.
When you talked about the farmer protest, I was thinking of Canada with those truckers.
tim pool
They freaked out over that.
They do not like it.
All right.
Christian says, I'm in favor of children having jobs.
I worked on a ranch starting at 12.
Best thing that has ever happened to me.
I think so too.
I think kids should have some kind of work.
I'm not saying they should be working.
kari lake
It teaches a work ethic.
tim pool
Right.
kari lake
I'm seeing that lacking a lot right now.
I don't know.
I mean, I'm not of your generation, but do you see that as well?
I told my kids, they're both working right now.
If you just go to work, show up early, work hard, you are going to go so far in this world because we're kind of lacking, I think, that work ethic that maybe we used to have.
tim pool
You know what's really funny?
Is there are young people who won't work 40 hours a week to save up so they can buy the new car or a new skateboard or whatever, but there are people who will play video games for 40 hours to earn the helm of disintegration or something.
kari lake
Oh man.
tim pool
They're like, I got the new upgraded helmet.
It only took me 30 hours to get.
It's like, dude, get a job, save up money and buy a car, man.
kari lake
Yeah.
tim pool
What about the real world is less appealing?
kari lake
Well, I think it's scary.
I think it's scary.
I think a lot of young people have been protected.
They've been, you know, the kind of helicopter mom and dad protecting them from the real world and schools not preparing them for the real world.
And so they get out of school, they're 18 and they're like, oh my gosh, they know they're not ready.
They know they're not prepared.
They know they don't have the skills.
Nothing is scarier than walking into a job on day one or three weeks in and thinking you're not prepared for that.
And that's why we've got to give them the skills.
That creates the confidence for them to do anything and then build on that to have success.
tim pool
Jay Button says, Can we get a Timcast D&D show like Critical Role?
We tried doing a D&D show.
We didn't have the wherewithal to put it together, but we are going to get all of that rolling.
It's tough.
Look, we're doing well.
We have a good amount of members and we're stretched about as thin as we can be stretched for the time being until we really start bringing... Here's where we're at.
We have a lot of members.
Now we need to make some shows.
So we've got Tales from the Inverted World.
The episodes are going to be like 45 minutes to an hour long.
It's crazy.
This investigation into the lost Confederate gold and everything that came next to it.
That show needs to generate more members because, you know, Timcast has gotten as many members as it basically can get.
It's at that upper limit.
Now we do another show.
Hopefully, that will generate a certain amount of members who will be willing to pay for this new content.
And then you have exponential growth from there.
So we want to do everything.
I'd love to have 300 shows produce all of this stuff that's just not woke.
Just regular good old-fashioned content that you could enjoy and have a good time.
But there will be values in it.
It'll just be like individualism, liberty, you know, things like that.
So we just have to build to it.
So, uh, as you guys go to TimCast.com and become members, you are helping us expand to that degree, but hopefully we'll end up with a show that's like Game of Thrones-esque or whatever, and then we end up with a million subscribers, and then we can do everything, so...
I'll leave it at that.
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Carrie, do you want to shout anything out?
kari lake
Yeah, if you're in Arizona, vote.
I mean, I think the young people, I think the young people are really involved right now in politics.
They realize how politics have affected their lives the last few years.
They realize people mask them.
They realize that people tortured them and took some of the great moments of their life away.
And they're very involved now in politics.
I want them to vote.
If they've got a ballot in their mailbox, get it out and vote.
This is between a rhino who's an open borders globalist married to a 95 year old pouring billions of dollars into ads trying to say she's one thing when she's another thing.
She's an open borders really liberal and it's between a socialist democrat and myself.
So we got to pick the right person and that's me.
tim pool
I will say this in a general sense.
When you believe in someone and you want to vote, bring three of your friends with you.
Convince three of your friends to come and vote with you, or if you've got a mail-in ballot, convince your friends to vote as well.
I'm not telling you who to vote for, I'm just saying, do that outreach yourself, because that's the grassroots, that ripple effect has an impact.
kari lake
Truly does.
And we are a grassroots campaign and we're going to do big things for Arizona.
And I'm only in this because I was looking at who ran and I thought none of these people are going to put Arizonans first.
And I think it's the experienced political people that got us into this mess.
And we need outsiders to get us out.
I've been covering Arizona for 27 years.
My job was to go in every day, wrap my arms around the biggest issue facing Arizona.
And get the information out to the people.
We need a great communicator much like Ronald Reagan was now because information and those who control it are really controlling the population.
And we need somebody who can break down the truth for people and actually get some stuff done.
You know I think the mom in me is going to get some stuff done in that Midwestern work ethic.
tim pool
Right on.
Do you have a website people can go to if they want to support you directly or anything like that?
kari lake
KariLake.com.
K-A-R-I-L-A-K-E dot com.
You can see where I stand on all of the issues.
And I'm not talking about just a sentence.
I lay it all out.
I've got my border policy there, my homelessness policy, my education policy, and much more.
And I also have where my opponent, the one who's trying to buy this race, she's outspending us 20 to 1.
Wow.
It's the most expensive governor's race we've ever seen, and we're not even to the primary yet.
Expected to spend $26 million.
Most of it in ads that are painting her as something that she really isn't.
unidentified
Wow.
kari lake
So we need to let her know that we're not going to allow her to buy this election.
She can spend all the money she wants, but we're not going to buy her lies.
And you can see what her voting record is before you cast that ballot.
tim pool
Right on.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Well, we also have Mary Morgan who's hanging out.
You want to shout anything out?
mary morgan
Sure, if you want to see more of me, you can find me on Instagram or WeChat at Closer Kitty, and I also demand that you go find Pop Culture Crisis on YouTube.
We go live at 3 p.m.
Eastern and noon Pacific Time every Monday through Friday.
This week is a little different.
You can find a pre-recorded episode tomorrow, and we're gonna be talking about celebrity news, entertainment news, TV, movies, all that light-hearted stuff that you won't see on Timcast IRL.
So, come join us.
ian crossland
And you can follow me at iancrossland.net, get in touch with me via social media, anyone you want.
I'm usually on all of them.
Carrie, always awesome to see you, man.
kari lake
Thank you.
ian crossland
And I will call you dude and man all day.
kari lake
You can call me dude!
ian crossland
I love you, Carrie.
Thank you.
tim pool
Ian walked in, he was like, hey dude.
I was like, I love that.
ian crossland
Yeah, welcome back.
kari lake
I'm gonna get you another shirt.
ian crossland
Oh, I'm totally looking forward to it.
Remind me again after the show if I don't remind you first.
mary morgan
Do you have pink shirts?
kari lake
We don't have pink, but maybe you can pull the shirts up and we'll show we'll get every one of you guys a shirt.
You're gonna love it.
And you'll think about me when you lay down for sleep because they're so comfy at night.
ian crossland
You can wear it to bed tonight.
It's very comfortable.
Thank you again.
lydia smith
That's awesome.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
Thank you so much for coming, Kerry.
And I wanted to say on the topic of pop culture, we talk a lot about politics being downstream from culture.
So that's a very strong pitch for figuring out what's going on with culture.
A lot of people dismiss what's going on there.
But it's very much having a finger to the pulse of what's happening in the real world, more than just politics.
Thank you again for coming, Carrie.
You guys can follow me on Twitter and Minds.com as Sarah Patchlitz, as well as SarahPatchlitz.me.
tim pool
We will see all of you over at TimCast.com for the special members-only section of this show.
Thanks for hanging out.
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