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Timcast IRL - Georgia Guidestones DESTROYED In BOMBING, Government Demolishes Remains w/Rich Baris
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the Georgia Guidestones were bombed at 4 in the morning blowing up about 30 or so
percent of the structure.
After this, the government came in and demolished what's left of it.
For those that don't know, the Georgia Guidestones are considered a monument to globalism.
They advocate for a global population of 500 million, which some have argued is a population control argument.
It argues for eugenics, quite literally.
And it's also got some weird nonsense about the infinite universe and just... It's a really creepy structure.
It was put up in the 1980s.
It was put up in 1980.
Some think that it was just put up because it was the height of the Cold War and there's a fear that nuclear war would wipe out humanity, and we needed guidestones so that the remainder of humanity who survived could rebuild in some kind of fallout scenario.
However, when there was no nuclear war, some felt like the guidestones were actually just telling the elites what to do.
And so they've been blown up.
They're gone.
And maybe it's not the most important story in the world, but it is big because this is a symbolic attack.
Someone, there's a vehicle, there's video footage released showing a vehicle pull up.
They don't show what happens next, but then you see an explosion.
So I want to know what's really going on.
We've seen statues torn down by the left, and now I can only assume that whoever attacked this structure is probably associated with anti-globalist sentiments.
I don't know if that necessarily means right-wing.
It could be some far leftist because they also have sometimes sentiments like that, but who knows?
We'll talk about that, plus a whole bunch of other stuff.
Elon Musk is chiming in on the Jordan Peterson suspension.
And Alex Berenson is his name, right?
I'm pronouncing that right?
Berenson?
He's been reinstated.
He was banned from Twitter over vaccine misinformation, Twitter claimed, filed a lawsuit, and he won.
Twitter settled with him, gave him back his account, and apparently there may be government involvement in what's going on with Twitter censorship.
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And Alex said, I can't say anything.
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Without further ado, joining us to discuss all of this is Rich Barris, the People's Pundit.
richard baris
Yeah, thanks for having me, Tim.
It's good to be here.
Who are you?
Ah, that's a question for the ages, right?
No, I'm a pollster.
I used to do data journalism, but now I'm most known as a public pollster.
Right on.
One who tries to get it right more than wrong.
tim pool
Putting out a lot of data on say, like, elections, like, how people are feeling, who they're going to vote for, things like that.
richard baris
Yeah, definitely, and issues in between, you know, how do people feel about what lawmakers are doing, what's wrong with the polling industry, which, you know, you could fill throughout, right?
tim pool
Considering, this should be interesting too, considering that all of the polls have been wrong.
richard baris
Yeah, they have.
tim pool
These past, what, three or four cycles?
richard baris
Worse every time.
tim pool
Worse every time?
richard baris
Yeah.
tim pool
So, this will be interesting to talk about, and I'd love to get your thoughts on what you think's going to happen in November.
So, not such good news, maybe?
We'll see.
richard baris
You know, hopefully, if you want to see Republicans take back the House, then, you know, you're hoping that this is a temporary blip, but, you know, enthusiasm's dipping.
The lead on the generic ballot for them was bigger.
And, you know, surprisingly big, even historically.
But, All the metrics, right?
It's David Axelrod, I don't agree with him too much, but he did say something the other day that's right.
If you're a doctor and you're looking at the chart, right?
And all the vital signs for the Democrats look bad.
tim pool
We'll get into all that too, so thanks for coming.
We also have Mary Morgan.
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I'm back again.
tim pool
She's back.
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Hello, I'm the co-host of Pop Culture Crisis on YouTube.
We talk about movies, celebrity drama, and just stuff you might not hear about on Timcast IRL.
ian crossland
Hi, everyone.
Oh, Ian Crossland here.
Good to see you.
From iancrossland.net.
I'm glad you're here, Rich, because I have a lot of issues.
I've had a lot of issues with polling in general, just the way that it extrapolates.
They'll pull 1,000 people and then say, that means that 100,000 people feel... That aside, what we were talking about before the show about I don't know.
It sounds like maybe as entertainment and politics are colliding, that maybe people have seized the polls as a means of propaganda.
I'd love to hear more about it as we get into it.
richard baris
Yeah, I could talk about it for hours.
lydia smith
Yeah, I'm very excited for this conversation.
I think, Rich, you're going to be great.
I know that you heard the term lies, darn lies, and statistics.
I'm making it a little family-friendly, so hopefully you can dispel some of that for us.
I'm back from being sick.
Thank you guys all for being with us.
Thank you, Chris.
Sick, huh?
Yeah, I wasn't, for example, blowing anything up in my absence.
No, I really was not feeling good.
But yeah, I have seen that theory and I love it.
So let's roll with it.
Let's get going.
tim pool
All right, let's jump into this first story.
From the Wall Street Journal, Georgia Guidestones Monument Damaged in Bombing.
Mysterious granite structure, which has drawn tourists to rural towns since 1980, was intentionally bombed.
Authorities say, take a look at that photo, man.
Dude, I'm really curious as to what they did, who did it, why they did it.
The Georgia Guidestones, for those that aren't familiar, are called the Monument to Globalism.
It's got these like 10 rules for creating a perfect society, like maintain the Earth's population at 500 million.
Guide, what does it say?
Guide breeding or something?
ian crossland
Guide reproduction wisely.
What the heck?
tim pool
Guide reproduction.
Actually, I think I have it.
unidentified
I'm so curious who put these up.
I am too.
tim pool
Check it out.
Guide Reproduction Wisely.
So they've got population control and eugenics right there in the first two.
Number three is unite humanity with a living new language.
What does that even mean?
ian crossland
I thought that was currency.
When I mentioned currency at the beginning, because you said they didn't mention currency in these 10, you know, these 10 commandments or whatever the hell they're supposed to be.
But they say a living new language.
I don't understand what that means other than like a way of communicating that's not words.
richard baris
Tongue clicking.
ian crossland
Yeah, something like tongue clicking.
tim pool
Fingersnapping.
richard baris
Something that changes and grows?
Something that changes and grows maybe?
tim pool
Language does.
richard baris
Yeah, it almost doesn't make sense.
tim pool
So I have a question, right?
So this is...
The kind of person who's going to be ragging on the guidestones is not going to be, for the most part, a Democrat or leftist.
They're probably going to shrug and not know what it is.
There are probably some anarcho-lefty types, tanky or communist types, who don't like it.
No, actually, I take that back.
The tankies probably love this stuff.
But there's probably some anarcho-lefty types who don't like the idea of globalism, for sure.
Or at least the way they've described it.
But typically, it's going to be more right-wing individuals who know what this is and don't like it.
So whoever did this, maybe a false flag, maybe someone who's actually mad about globalism.
My question is, the critics of this are predominantly going to be right-wing.
Is this the first statue or monument that's been taken down that was predominantly criticized by the right?
I mean, we've seen Christopher Columbus.
We've seen Washington and Lincoln.
unidentified
They just didn't complain and whine about it and protest.
They just took it down.
tim pool
Well, I mean, the left just takes stuff down.
unidentified
Exactly.
tim pool
Like they just show up randomly and throw ropes and then rip it down.
unidentified
Sure, but they make a big show of it.
They don't do it in the dead of night.
tim pool
That's interesting.
richard baris
Or they have the access, though, to the power structure to take it down.
unidentified
I think that's how they like it.
richard baris
Yeah, somebody's listening at a university or somebody's listening downtown because they have the ear of the government.
The right doesn't really have that resource.
unidentified
They want to make the authority comply with their orders.
richard baris
Yeah.
You know what I thought about?
What took so long?
Honestly, in the era that we're in.
tim pool
Oh, for real?
richard baris
Yeah, in 08, this thing was vandalized.
They wrote all over it.
tim pool
2014, it was vandalized?
richard baris
2014, again, I am ISIS, right?
In 2014, something ridiculous.
But now in this era where anti-globalism is mainstream, you know, maybe back in the era of Obama, it wasn't as mainstream as it is now.
tim pool
2000, it was mainstream.
The left was protesting the World Trade Organization.
richard baris
Well, right.
In this way.
Yeah, right.
In this way, where it's almost a political force.
You know, where they had some kind of symbol that they needed to go after.
It's almost like this one was at the top of that list.
And there haven't been, with all the anger out there, that I see even in polling, with all the anger out there, there hasn't been as many events as I thought there would be or you would expect there to be.
It feels like people are getting to a point where they're bubbling over.
And there's just nowhere for them to go to air these grievances anymore.
So eventually we're just going to see stuff like this.
And that said, we don't know who did it yet, but you know.
ian crossland
I also think that Klaus Schwab is now in the news pretty predominantly.
I didn't even know he was two years ago.
World Economic Forum is all over the place.
The Black Rock, Blackstone buying up the houses is like trending on Twitter.
People are...
People are becoming aware that there is a global corporation attempting to take control of the United States and every country on earth because the nationalist governments are not capable of governing themselves.
They need the corporation, according to Klaus.
He's crazy.
richard baris
That's pretty good.
ian crossland
Yeah, thanks.
tim pool
We have this tweet from the Georgia Bureau of Investigation showing this vehicle.
The GBI is releasing surveillance video from this morning's explosion that destroyed the Georgia Guidestones.
Strange.
They just installed surveillance cameras.
They recently did.
So Shane Cashman of Tales from the Inverted World, he wrote, he went down to Georgia, he did this big investigation, he went to the Guidestones, and he said they recently put in these floodlights and cameras, and then this happens.
It's like...
You mentioned this just a second ago, why did it take so long, right?
Yeah.
And then why did it happen right after the cameras got installed?
richard baris
And where's the rest of it?
tim pool
Where's the rest of it?
Yeah.
They show the car and they're like, here's the car, but they don't show anything else.
They just show an explosion.
Fortunately, nobody was around.
Nobody got hurt, but it's very strange.
And then they show the rubble.
ian crossland
It looks like they lined that stone with explosives.
Like, they didn't just blow up the base of it.
It looks like it got blown apart by, like, a bunch of explosions.
richard baris
It looks... it looks... I mean, I don't want to use the word pro, but it doesn't... that's not... that doesn't look like amateur hour to me.
tim pool
I think it actually looks amateur.
richard baris
Does it?
tim pool
Yeah, because it only took out one of the pillars.
richard baris
Maybe because the blast didn't hit it.
If you look at it, it looked like it went down the mountain.
That could be a sign it is amateur, but it disproportionately came out one end.
tim pool
If they put it in the center, wouldn't it have taken out the center column?
It looks like it was placed in front of one, so it doesn't seem pro at all.
richard baris
Unless they didn't expect it to tip one way and hit the middle column, hit one side more than the other.
Maybe they expected it to come out almost symmetrical, but it didn't.
unidentified
I wonder why they decided to demolish the rest of it.
tim pool
Safety reasons.
I mean, it could be teetering.
It could collapse.
ian crossland
You know, so... It looked pretty ragged after it got... Lawsuits.
tim pool
Somebody... You know, they... Right.
They paid to maintain this.
Like, people would go out and clean up and all that stuff.
The Guidestones actually had a bunch of other features.
Like, if you looked through at a certain angle or something, it could show you where the celestial pole was.
There was, like, math on it.
Multiple languages.
There was, um... Explanations for weights and measurements.
unidentified
Why would they think this would survive nuclear war?
tim pool
I don't know.
unidentified
It's just stones.
tim pool
Right.
richard baris
Stonehenge.
tim pool
A bunch of rocks.
richard baris
It just got knocked over.
unidentified
Idiots.
tim pool
A bomb.
Seriously.
But I mean, think about it.
The first two things are population control and eugenics.
Yeah, they're idiots.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, of course.
Let me read some of this for you.
Let me show you two of the ones, a couple of them that I really love.
All right, let's see.
Rule passion, faith, tradition, and all things with tempered reason.
Okay, I guess.
That's not telling anyone anything, though, because people all have different ideas of what it means to be reasonable, but fine.
Okay, okay, okay.
All right.
Unite humanity with a living new language.
That explains nothing to no one.
Who is gonna see that and go, oh, I get it.
No, no, no, no, but it gets better.
So it says, nine, prize, truth, beauty, love, seeking harmony with the infinite.
ian crossland
This is written by people that have enough food to eat.
unidentified
Yep.
richard baris
Yep.
tim pool
That's, that's absolutely it.
I like number seven.
Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
I agree with that one.
lydia smith
Let's go.
Yeah.
richard baris
They stole number eight from Thomas Jefferson.
They just, they just twisted, you know, they simplified what he said, but that's what he used to say.
You have no right that doesn't have an equal or greater social duty.
tim pool
As per Ian's point, I'm imagining, like, nuclear bombs fall, everything's wiped out, and then some dude with, like, a big beard and, like, a stick walks up and he starts looking at it, and he, like, feels it, and he goes, My stars.
Turns around and just starts butchering some random person to eat their corpse.
ian crossland
Yeah, really?
tim pool
He's like, I've seen the truth!
Is this what beauty means?
And then he just walks away and starts hacking kids down.
ian crossland
Look at this.
This is number six.
Let all nations rule internally, resolving external disputes in a world court.
richard baris
I dig it.
ian crossland
That's like a global corporation to rule everyone as a court.
richard baris
Like a UN.
ian crossland
Who appoints the court?
unidentified
Exactly.
tim pool
With the countries.
I actually dig that one.
Unfortunately.
I like that one.
Whose countries, you know?
That goes without saying.
That's not how it works.
ian crossland
It could try to do that, but this just gives you some weird world court authority.
tim pool
We should try to have a court overshooting each other in the face.
ian crossland
We have the UN, but we still have like Ukraine.
tim pool
Right.
I think war, it's inevitable because even, you know, you have like, uh, you have regular court, you have civil court.
Someone will be like, that guy kicked my dog, I want to pay for it.
The other guy says, no, I didn't.
And then the other guy shows up afterwards and punches him in the face.
It's like you have, we have courts.
Disputes are still not always resolved.
Sometimes people still just get into a fight.
So I think world courts are a good thing, you know?
But, you know, inside our country, we do our thing.
And then here's the issue.
If the world court rules against you in a way that's extremely unjust, you get war.
ian crossland
The world court reminds me of the Trans-Pacific Partnerships Investor State Dispute Settlement Clause, where they were like, a global arbiter will decide if the American people choose not to buy Malaysian oil, A world tribunal will decide if the American people can be sued and have to pay with tax money to pay this corporation back for not buying their oil.
tim pool
Here's the real issue.
ian crossland
That was a real proposal.
tim pool
The idea of some kind of global federalism where the countries are sovereign but there is a very weak central power that can mediate?
Never gonna happen.
What will happen is, the moment you enact a world court, it'll be just like the U.S.'s.
The federal government will keep usurping power and then eventually you're in a globalist authoritarian regime with their boot on your neck.
And then they're going to come to your country and be like, you lost the lawsuit.
You can't use carbon anymore.
richard baris
Yeah, it's going to come down and coalitions are going to come together to, you know, basically take the balance of that court or try to influence it.
In the end, it would probably end up just like, I mean, I'm not saying it's not worth trying, but it might probably would just end up like the UN does.
I mean, we have, it depends.
I might be all right with this.
If we laid out the ground rules for how, who would be the arbiters?
So I don't want some arbitration panel of elitists up there making up the rules.
How would we select these people?
tim pool
I think there's no real way to do it reasonably because people's values clash dramatically.
The U.S.
values clash with China in ways that are just... Irreconcilable.
Absolutely.
So what's gonna happen is... We'll use Elon Musk as an example.
Elon, he's gonna buy Twitter, right?
He said, you know, I'm moderate.
I think the good compromises at both sides are unhappy.
And I'm like, oh, okay, that's how things are.
The left wants the right banned completely.
The right doesn't care the left speaks.
So the compromise is, okay, we'll ban some of the right.
It's like, well, that's not fair.
Actually, we'll talk about this in a minute, too.
The, uh, uh, Andrew Schultz, for instance, you know, he did this comedy bit.
Netflix apparently wanted him to pull some jokes and he refused.
And it's like, you listen to it.
You're like, oh, he said he's making fun of both sides.
And it's like, yeah, kind of, but not really because the right is okay with the jokes.
This is the, this is the problem.
There's not going to be a fair court.
You'll have the United States being like, we're totally cool that China does their thing.
So long as they don't come here, then China's going to be like, we're not cool that they're doing their thing.
And the world court is going to be like, okay, we'll compromise.
The U S has to give up some of its rights.
That's how it would play out.
Unless you get aggressive.
So I don't think I don't I think federalism, the idea sounds beautiful.
I don't know how you protect against, you know, massive acceleration of the coalescing of power.
ian crossland
Well, the United States Constitution is a decent archetype for it.
But I don't know, man, to extrapolate that to the globe.
It's like a fantasy of mine.
richard baris
Yeah, because you want to push your values on other people who just don't, or not even push them on other people.
You wanted others to see the value of the ideas that are in the constitution, but they just, some just won't.
ian crossland
It would be pushing my values.
It would be forcefully providing American democracy and republicanism to the world, overthrowing monarchs, you know, upending totalitarian governments and giving the people freedom.
tim pool
If they thought the world was going to end in a nuclear holocaust, so they made these stones and said, you got to keep 500 million people.
That's the limit.
And then no nuclear holocaust happened.
Did they just decide you don't have to have 500 million people anymore?
Or do they still hold that value and think, okay, well now we got to do it.
ian crossland
I don't think the 500 million should be set in stone.
unidentified
LOL.
ian crossland
Just like in the Constitution, one representative represented 30,000 people.
That number was destined to change.
They just wrote it down there at the beginning because that made sense at that moment.
richard baris
At that moment.
ian crossland
This doesn't say, like, and this number can change.
They don't become... Seems arbitrary.
tim pool
It is arbitrary.
500 million.
Someone in the 80s.
There's a lot of questions around who actually put it up.
lydia smith
Why?
Why are there questions around who put this up?
It was put up in 1980, right?
Yeah, by a bunch of rich people.
There's no way there's not still... Oh, it's just a bunch of rich people.
Okay, that actually makes sense.
tim pool
Creepy people who think they're smarter than you, and therein lies the big problem.
lydia smith
Oh, there you go.
tim pool
There's a video going viral.
It's a bunch of climate change activists block a highway.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And then this guy gets out and he's like, yo, I gotta get to work.
I'm on parole.
They're going to lock me up if I don't get to work.
And they ignore him.
And then he walks up to the person.
He's like, give me one lane.
Just let me get to work.
Oh, I'm going to get locked up.
And they just tell him no, like it's the craziest thing to watch.
This guy tweeted.
He's like, I'll testify in his behalf.
I'm sorry that he got arrested, you know, but whatever.
And then he's like, ask, ask the activists, organizers, what we should have done.
And I'm like, you people are evil.
That's what evil looks like.
That they think they're smarter than you.
They think they're better than you.
They think they're more righteous than you.
And when you beg them, please, I don't want to go to prison.
They just, they just look at you and say, I don't care.
I literally don't care.
It's fascinating, man.
They think they're the righteous ones.
The people who put up those stones are exactly that.
They think they know better than you, and they don't.
They never do.
That's why you can't allow this kind of authoritarianism.
Because you get some guy who's like, I'm smarter than everyone.
Everyone, melt down all your tools and make iron!
Kill all the sparrows!
They're hurting the crops!
And then you get famine and destruction and starvation.
That's how it goes.
You get these people who are like, I think the farmers should own the farms.
Kill the landowners!
And then everyone starves to death because the farmers don't actually know how to run and maintain the farm.
That's what happens every time.
Do not let these people who think they're smart do take over.
Decentralization is the only way to properly maintain.
lydia smith
Well, do we know if the people who set these up actually did any of the things that they were talking about?
There's a lot of talk and a weird monument and no action.
tim pool
We don't know who set it up.
unidentified
They're still alive, probably.
lydia smith
Yeah, I think so.
unidentified
I hope that they speak out.
ian crossland
I'm looking at the Wikipedia.
In 2008, the stones were defaced with polyurethane paint with slogans such as, Death to the New World Order.
richard baris
That's what it said in a way.
And I Am Isis or something in 2014?
ian crossland
Yeah, I Am Isis, Goddess of Love.
richard baris
I was trying to remember what the rest of that was.
That's right, because I just saw it a little bit ago.
After seeing this happen, I looked at it and I kind of remember some of these stories, but I don't look at them as I look at a story like this now, or I didn't, because the struggle that we're seeing in society right now, I guess, It's more vocalized now.
It's more in party platforms now than it was before.
So I guess that's why my initial thought was what it was because we know people have had these frustrations in the past but now they're coming to life and It's not a small... you know, they would be kind of put off to the side.
Ah, some nutcases vandalized it.
You could read how the Washington Post tweeted this story.
Will Summers, how he laid it out on Twitter.
Even before he got into anything, the first thing out of his mouth was, you know, this has really been for a long time the target of these right-wing conspiracy nuts.
That's how you choose to lead in this story?
Which goes to show you, he's one of those people.
That is him, and he gives his hand away by even coming out with it like that in the first place.
tim pool
Let's talk about the narrative exploding.
Outside of the actual narrative exploding, we have this other story here, Alex Berenson.
So, Elon Musk tweeted to Alex Berenson, a journalist, can you say more about this, quote, pressures that the government may have placed on Twitter?
This is interesting.
Alex Berenson is a journalist.
He was tweeting about vaccines, very skeptical and talking about a lot of the data, and then he got suspended.
He filed a lawsuit.
He won.
Nobody expected this to happen because everyone believes that when you get banned from Twitter or whatever, that you file a lawsuit and then it gets thrown out.
Most of his suit did get thrown out, but I think there was breach of contract, which persisted.
So Alex says, I wish I could, Elon Musk, but the settlement with Twitter prevents me from doing so.
However, in the near future, I hope and expect to have more to report.
On a Substack post, talking about how he got his account back, he said, He says, I need to add one thing.
The settlement does not end my investigation into the pressures that the government may have placed on Twitter to suspend my account.
I will have more to say on that issue in the near future.
I made a promise to readers last month, and I take my promises to readers seriously.
Alex Berenson seems to have some kind of information that the government is actively pressuring Twitter to engage in censorship.
lydia smith
Better watch out.
tim pool
If Elon Musk takes this company over, it's going to be really interesting to find out what happens.
But how much do you want to bet?
Say it's October.
Elon Musk, all the news happens.
Elon Musk now owns Twitter.
Then someone immediately says, okay, Elon, what was going on?
And he goes, I can't talk about it.
How much do you want to bet?
richard baris
Well, if everyone – I don't know how many people read what he was talking about last month, but last month when he discussed this on the Substack, he said, look, I think we're getting close to an agreement, basically, but any agreement I make, I promise, will not exclude me from being able to make this public, anything we may find in discovery surrounding this issue.
And I think the reason for that, or why it's important, is because that gets to the crux of it.
And we had those whistleblowers come out with the Disinformation Government's Bureau, or whatever they were calling it, where initially the government said they weren't really policing everyone's misinformation, this was only going to be targeting Russian disinformation and security stuff.
But that wasn't true.
So if the government, you know, I'm not a lawyer, but from what we hear from others, and Viva and Robert talk about this a lot, that's the linchpin.
So if they were pressuring these social media companies, that opens up a whole new Pandora's box.
tim pool
This is what really bugs me about a lot of this, is that Alex made a First Amendment claim, and the judge was like, you have no First Amendment claim because it's a private company doing it.
Not true.
We do know there's a story out of California.
I think it was Judicial Watch that exposed this.
Democrats were making requests on who they wanted censored.
These are government actors going to a private company and using them as a cudgel.
So we need a court to come in on First Amendment grounds, and we need that information.
How do you navigate this?
When we know they're doing it, but the courts are like, well, it's a private company.
It's like, yes, how do we get the investigation to show the government is going in and telling them to do these things?
How do we get that information?
ian crossland
A whistleblower's coming out, honestly.
tim pool
Be brave, go to Project Veritas.
ian crossland
Or some organization like Veritas, but Veritas is a great one, yeah.
richard baris
That's Chuck Grassley, Senator Grassley from Iowa, how they got it there.
That was government coming out and doing that.
The private companies and Project Veritas is great.
If I was working at one of those, they would be at the top of the list because they've been doing so much of this.
But yeah, I don't see any reason why you couldn't go to a lawmaker as well.
I mean, eventually this has to be fixed in the law.
tim pool
The good news though, Elon Musk actively taking a role and looking into these things.
Potentially by October, he may have Twitter.
unidentified
Why do you think by October?
tim pool
It was reported that's when the settlement should happen, maybe even August, but at some point soon.
unidentified
I don't know.
It just feels like people are clinging to the idea and it's just not going to happen.
tim pool
Oh, Mary, you're so wrong.
unidentified
Elon Musk will save us if we put all of our faith in one person.
lydia smith
That's right.
ian crossland
I agree with you, Mary.
I think there's a lot of, like, hope that he's going to save.
unidentified
I don't think he cares.
ian crossland
I mean, he's just a guy and the government still has gag orders.
Like they can, like you said, put a gag order.
They probably have one on Twitter right now that'll transfer ownership.
tim pool
It's on the company.
So here's what I bet.
I bet there's a national security letter.
What I've seen circulating is that the Feds have national security interests in stopping misinformation.
That's been the idea that's going around.
If it's a national security letter, Elon Musk is going to, I'm going to buy this company.
He's going to walk in and they're going to be like, here's what you've inherited.
And he's going to look at it and go, Can't do anything.
Can't do anything.
And it's going to be the same exact game.
ian crossland
So you were saying, what's his name?
Barrister?
Barrister?
richard baris
Barrenson.
ian crossland
Alex Barrenson.
He said on his sub stack he was going to go public with everything and immediately it happened and then he didn't.
richard baris
He promised when he said, I made a promise to my readers.
What he's talking about is that he said, I will not make a deal.
I will not, whatever arrangement we come to, I will not agree to it if it doesn't mean that I can't publicly put out information relating to that.
Which is important.
ian crossland
And then he agreed to a deal and he said he can't put out public information.
richard baris
This is what got me today.
tim pool
So maybe it's a government thing.
His settlement with Twitter prevents me from doing so.
richard baris
And this is what got me today.
The security angle.
I don't know, Tim.
unidentified
It's gotta be that.
tim pool
Is his Twitter account really that important?
richard baris
It's got to be that, though.
Maybe he thinks, reading between the lines here, he's going to challenge that in court.
But I'll tell you what, if that's his plan, he's going to lose.
He's going to lose, without a doubt.
You cannot beat those guys in court when they pull that national security card.
That's it.
It's over.
It's done.
No judge, no federal judge, is going to be one of the first to do that.
That's why the First Amendment, you know, and I didn't mean to cut you off.
ian crossland
No, go man.
richard baris
The First Amendment argument that Tim was just lamenting, they throw out all the time.
That is the argument!
And they toss it out, you know, all the time.
They throw that in the trash bin and they talk about something that's on the periphery or something.
And it drives me nuts.
tim pool
I gotta call shenanigans here.
I gotta call shenanigans.
Alex?
Shenanigans.
Your settlement with Twitter?
What?
Your Twitter account.
That's it.
ian crossland
Did he have money?
tim pool
My understanding is he got his Twitter account back.
That's it.
We don't know.
So I'm sorry.
Yo, I'm going to give Alex the benefit of the doubt and just say it may be he's currently investigating and doesn't want to ruin his ability to get more information.
But this is not enough.
To come out and be like, I got my Twitter account back, guys.
I can't tell you about the corporate malfeasance.
Yeah.
unidentified
You know what I would do?
tim pool
I would sit in that Papazon right there.
I would take a camera.
I would grab all of the paperwork.
I would take a cigar.
I don't smoke cigars either.
But I would sit down with the camera on and be like, ladies and gentlemen, everything I'm not allowed to talk about.
And I'd throw it down and be like, I'm over it.
I don't stand for that.
Now, it's easy to say, because I don't know what happened.
It could be a national security letter.
It could be that Twitter said, look at what happened.
So let me bring this down for you.
Alex was told by an employee at Twitter that if he broke any of the rules, they would give him a warning.
They banned him without giving him a warning.
So he filed a breach of contract, First Amendment, and they said, no, no, all that stuff's out.
But the breach of contract's legit because they said they'd give you a warning.
They didn't ban you.
OK, they can't do that.
And so Twitter issued a statement saying we should not have banned him for this.
It could be that the reason he wasn't given any warnings, despite them saying, is because national security letter.
Feds came in and said, ban him for saying these things.
And Twitter was like, whatever you say, government, and then didn't tell him why.
Yeah, that's what happened to me.
When a lot of people get banned, there's no reason given.
It happens, they'll be like, reason for ban, blank.
richard baris
Yeah, that's what happened to me.
tim pool
They may have gone to him and said, we're going to tell you why you got banned, we're
going to reinstate you, but you can't talk about it if we do this.
Do you agree?
Yes.
Boom, national security letter.
And then he's like, okay.
richard baris
I wonder if they could, I bet you they could justify these issues.
They have elections, you know, claims about elections.
I wonder if they could justify that under a security banner as well.
Because, you know, I popped up 45 minutes after Tucker.
I was lucky and reinstated.
But when I was banned, it was boom.
It was gone.
And the only thing they were anticipating was a report that we were releasing.
Whether some of the claims that you saw on Twitter after the election, you know, this many of this people voted, this many of that people voted, we were doing an investigation on it.
It was imminent, it was coming, and I was sitting home watching television with my kids, and I got a text from Steve Bannon.
He's like, you're a legend!
You're gone.
tim pool
Are you back on now, though?
richard baris
I am.
I went on, yeah, I'll tell you, Tucker, the only one, had my back on that.
tim pool
How long were you banned for?
richard baris
About two days.
tim pool
Two days?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Did they say it was an error or something?
richard baris
Nope.
They totally ignored me, Tim, and I just reappeared.
So weird, dude.
I got off of the show 45 minutes later, and I got maybe 20 minutes at the opening at Tucker, and maybe by 9 o'clock, 9.05, I was just magically reinstated.
ian crossland
Were you talking about the ban on Tucker?
richard baris
Yes, that's what he called to have me on to talk about it.
tim pool
Here's what I think.
So you remember when Elon Musk was like, he secured the deal and then all of a sudden all these left accounts and celebrities lost followers.
richard baris
Yeah.
tim pool
Tons of right-wing and libertarian accounts gained followers.
I think it's obvious that there's some kind of Enron shenanigans going on, burning documents, destroying evidence.
Something's happening because they know Elon's about to come in.
I think it involves the government.
I think Alex gave us that hint.
richard baris
Yeah.
tim pool
Just that little teeny drop that he could say without getting specifics.
And now he can't say more because it involves the government.
ian crossland
That could be taken out of context and make it sound like you're talking about Alex Jones about some random thing.
richard baris
Oh, right.
ian crossland
I didn't get to the government.
richard baris
That's a 20 second clip.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That's funny.
The joke I posted is there's a video going viral showing like, who's that?
lydia smith
Eating bugs.
tim pool
Yeah, who's that fat comedian?
Anna Faris.
lydia smith
James Corden.
tim pool
James Corden.
They're eating crickets and ants and stuff.
That's gross.
unidentified
Yeah.
That's right.
tim pool
And they're like, I just saw that and I was like, the year is 2037.
Alex Jones is sworn in as president.
His first act is to, is an executive order, turning all the frogs straight.
lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
But my, you know, the joke is just, they show you these videos of people eating bugs and
I think people are going to go and vote for Trump.
Yeah.
Joe Biden, all he needs to do to lose is come on and be like, come on man, vote for me and
you'll be eating crickets.
People are going to be like, okay, I'm not going to vote for that.
unidentified
I'm out.
tim pool
I don't want to do that.
ian crossland
I think it's a safe, maybe not assumption, but a safe consideration that the government is involved because it's Twitter.
It's a huge social media company.
They come in with cease and desist orders.
They come in with gag orders.
They say, you need to ban this person.
You're legally obligated not to ever mention anything about this ever.
So they'll give the person a no reason ban.
End of story.
tim pool
I was talking to this guy when I was in Austin, and he said, I think, we're going to have him on the show, he worked for the government, he worked in the Trump administration, and he said, the view of the national security apparatus is that the meme stuff and Donald Trump was undermining our national security and must be stopped.
And so what their goal is, they want to make the right present, but politically ineffective.
Cause just enough damage to the right so they can be present, look like they're putting up a fight, but lose.
Because if you come in and just outright ban everybody, it creates ripples and destabilizes the system.
So they're trying to make it a 49-51 scenario so the Democrats just slightly win every time.
But it looks like the Republicans are so close!
richard baris
Yeah, it disrupts equilibrium a little bit.
But that's the way it is in the media right now.
I mean, they almost have, and I say this, I use this analogy, really, I don't know if anybody plays pool, but It's almost like that.
I would completely expect that.
Because it's almost like Democrats have this advantage everywhere else.
Whether it's the media, the pollsters, whatever.
You know, it's like you're playing a game of pool with somebody.
They want the 6.
If you don't spot them the 6, they put a, you know, they have a canary or don't want to play the game at all.
It's like they have this built-in advantage.
And when it comes to messaging, they lost that in 2016.
Their major lesson that they learned from all of this was not that there are people out there who have grievances.
Those grievances are legitimate.
Maybe we should listen to them.
That was not their lesson.
The lesson they took from this was let's control information.
We lost control of the information flow.
Those memes, I've heard they take those seriously.
They were effective.
tim pool
Meme magic, man!
Donald Trump was memed into the presidency.
ian crossland
You said that you thought the Democrats had control of the polls or had influence in the polls as well.
What evidence have you seen of that?
richard baris
Yeah, I think without a doubt, there's just no justification for some of the misses that we've seen.
You know, there are a lot of problems, and we call them artifacts, you know, depending on your methodology that you create artifacts within polling that will result in problems, you know, distortions in your results, and you'll be wrong.
But you can't be that wrong that you're Biden plus 17 in Wisconsin.
Guys, that's not an accident.
tim pool
How did this happen that the polls were just so blatantly wrong?
richard baris
Well, in 16, I'm more of a cynic now, and I'm basically a full-blown cynic.
But after 16, I really was naively thinking that if we just kept performing better than everybody else, they'll realize that, look, I see your problems.
Just pay attention and adjust your methodologies.
But they never did.
And in 18, everybody wanted to whitewash how bad the Senate polls were especially.
Looking at just the national generic ballot vote and House vote for the House of Representatives.
But the presidency was coming.
And in 2020, obviously every presidential election, those are state-level polls.
The national poll almost doesn't even matter.
So if you had a problem with the state polls in the Senate races in 2018, why could you legitimately ignore that moving into a presidential election unless you're intentionally doing that?
tim pool
Who was it?
Nate Silver?
He was like, I did a good job, you're wrong!
And it's like, his polls were miserable?
richard baris
He is a glorified poll reader.
He is not really a modeler.
He's a glorified poll reader who has a lot of money for IT on his site and dev on his site.
And he's got some really cool tools that you can look at and get almost glamoured into thinking there's something magical or special happening there.
There's not.
He reads polls like any news consumer can read a poll.
And I constantly see him all the time.
He's a polling guru, the media will call him.
He's never conducted a poll in his life.
And I've told him actually, prove me wrong.
Come to my office.
I'll give you the reins.
You can sit in front of the software.
I'll even give you my sign in.
You show me how you do this better.
But he would never do an exercise like that.
He wouldn't know the first thing to do.
tim pool
So are the polls wrong right now?
richard baris
Uh, yeah, I mean, there are some that are doing the best job they can.
I have no problem saying that.
I mean, this, the guys at Susquehanna, they try their best.
Jim Lee over there, uh, Robert Kahaley at Trafalgar.
You know, there are a lot of people out there that are really trying to just adjust to this changing world.
The rest of them, I gotta tell you, I mean, these repeat offenders, Tim, They know they had a problem the years before.
The morning consults, the Reuters, the YouGov, anyone who buys YouGov data.
They know they have these problems.
So there is no legitimate reason for them not to put a pause on their polling.
After an election to figure out, I got to retool here.
I got to figure out what I'm doing wrong.
tim pool
Nope.
richard baris
They go right into it.
ian crossland
You were saying that in the modern age, that the way people collect polling data has changed.
Like they used to do it all by landline, for instance, and now people don't have landlines.
So they got to text, but some people don't answer texts.
So they got to email like what, but, but people, they, they realize that they're still just calling landlines and that they're just not changing course.
Is that the problem?
richard baris
Yeah, and this idea that the live caller, which is, you know, the pollster hires a call center, most of them don't have call centers themselves in-house, so they basically subcontract them out to a vendor, and there's a lot of money in it.
So that's another major problem.
Obviously the cost of a poll, a live caller poll, can be anywhere, and they hate it when I do this on shows just to tell people how much it costs, but A live call or poll could be around 20 grand, you know, because each interview is going to be about four or five bucks to complete.
And somebody who's doing peer-to-peer text messaging, online panels, they could do it a lot cheaper.
So, part of this is that there's a boys club, and if you evolve, or you force the industry to evolve, they're losing money.
ian crossland
Interesting.
What's a peer-to-peer method?
richard baris
Oh, actually, I should have explained that.
Look, you used to be able to just get bombarded with taxes, and most of the time, those were automated softwares that just hit you up.
Like, I would upload a CSV file to the software, and your name was on it, your name was on it, but nobody's really on the other end.
10 DLC is a new regulation for pollsters and other people who want to text, but it hits pollsters hard.
You have got to have a live agent on the other end of that.
So maybe it could be Tim who sends out 10,000 himself, invites.
But if somebody's there to respond, you have to be able to reply.
It has to be a live person on the other end.
ian crossland
Is it that they have to be able to reply or they have to reply?
richard baris
You don't have to be able.
The truth is most of them don't, which just kind of defeats the purpose and is a problem because this is 10 DLC is the last attempt by the private sector to get spam to your phone under control.
If they don't, the government's going to step in and the cost will go up even more and the
regulations will get even more strict.
But you have to register if you're a pollster who does peer-to-peer.
You have to register, you have to do what is basically a verification of your company
and you are legitimate and you're not just spam.
And then there's like little tricks you have to do.
Make three or four, you know.
tim pool
So how many times, how many past elections have we seen major errors from the pollsters?
2016, 2018, 2020?
richard baris
Yeah, it's actually worse than that.
2016 just showed it because it was a presidential miss, and that doesn't normally happen.
Years before, Gallup was the gold standard.
Gallup was generally right until they messed up in 2012.
But 2016 was a real big miss, and presidential polls typically are more accurate than other polls.
Uh, so it got everybody's attention, but truth be told, the exit polls have bombed for many years.
ian crossland
2000.
richard baris
I mean, they called Florida for Al Gore, uh, way too early because they believe the exit poll data.
They did it again in 04.
Democrats, for all of the people who pine about January 6th, Democrats challenged the electors in the Senate In 2004, based on this ridiculous analysis that according to the exit polls, there is no way that John Kerry could lose the state of Ohio.
Well, exit polls are flawed, yet they tried to hold up electors over it.
tim pool
So we saw in 2020, some safe Democrat districts turned Republican.
richard baris
Yeah.
tim pool
Now you got the New York Times saying, far-right Latinas with Mayra Flores.
It's ridiculous.
What do you think is going to happen in November?
With Myra Flores saying it's a fluke.
She won a special election because a bunch of Republicans came out, but she won't win again.
Do you think it's going to be better than, is it going to be a red wave, red tsunami, or is it going to be maybe just get by a little bit?
richard baris
Yeah, in Myra's case, just to say, that was a low turnout.
Older people who have more ancestral connection to their voter behavior.
So if your family is Democratic, it's always harder for the older people in the family to change that pattern of behavior.
So, in the November election, more younger people will be out, so they'll have less of a loyalty, a strict loyalty to the partisan voting index, it's called, and that will help Myra.
So people are wrong with that.
tim pool
Really?
richard baris
Yeah, it will actually help her, because there'll be younger people.
who aren't so loyal, don't have this history voting Democrat, there'll be more of the shift
that we've been seeing. You know, the short answer with Republicans, I think it's a foregone
conclusion, they're going to take the House, but they're blowing the opportunity to break their cap
in the House majority. And I mean, I can get into that.
tim pool
Sounds like it's on purpose, to be honest.
Me too. I absolutely believe that. But I will say, we'll talk about that, but I just want to
add one point, you know, considering that Mary here is the typical Gen Z, I think it's going to
be a red wave across the board, because every Gen Zer believes the same thing as Mary. It just proves it.
That's how polls work.
unidentified
Of course!
tim pool
Gen Z is all Catholic conservatives, you know what I mean?
unidentified
And female.
richard baris
Pretty representative, yes.
unidentified
I want to know, do you think that inaccurate polling manipulates public opinion?
It does.
And is that really the intention behind it?
Behind not improving?
richard baris
And fundraising.
And fundraising.
So if you're Biden and polls are starting to show a tightening election, but then ABC News and Langer Research, conducting it for ABC News, comes out with that 17 point lead in Wisconsin.
Well, you know, Wisconsin's a must win state for Donald Trump.
So you stop giving to Donald Trump.
Oh, he's going to lose.
My guy's going to lose.
I'm not going to give him 50 bucks this month.
And I didn't believe that before, but I do now.
Because it's more than just they're not listening, they're smearing.
They're coming after me.
They're coming after Robert.
They're coming after Jim.
It's not just, alright, these guys have a different philosophy, let's see who performs better, and at the end of the day, let your track record win.
No.
They come at you, they smear you, and they attack you.
So, that's not professional, and it's not the way this industry works in any other arena.
Polling is used for a lot of different things.
We just care about political polling more because people are in elections.
Maybe it's intentional.
It's the only area of public polling where this happens.
tim pool
Maybe it's not an error.
Maybe they're not screwing up.
Maybe they're intentionally lying in the polls to try and trick people into voting a different direction.
richard baris
Yeah, I think that's definitely happening, at least on some level.
But there are some people that have just, you know, they've tried to retool Tim, but they just keep screwing up.
unidentified
Lemonized incompetence.
richard baris
You know, it's tough.
It's not easy to poll.
It's a hard job.
It is.
unidentified
So I try to give them leeway, but at this point... Another thing I want to know, why are presidential polls traditionally more accurate?
richard baris
You know, there's different philosophies with that.
Yeah, I think, honestly, you have people who are a little bit more willing to tell you how they're going to vote.
But also, this may change in the future because the country used to be demographically more similar.
Like, if you were in Ohio, it didn't look all that different from another Rust Belt state like Illinois, for instance.
But now it does.
Demographics are changing quite a bit.
So I think that might change.
Most people would probably tell you that it's easier to go after larger groups, larger populations, than it is to go after populations that are a little bit more, you know, it's more granular.
I think... Error rates are bigger with smaller groups.
tim pool
People moved all over because of COVID.
We saw a massive exodus from California.
We saw people flocking to Florida and Texas.
So this is going to have a huge impact that pollsters probably aren't prepared for.
Maybe you are.
richard baris
We ask about, you know, this is something I don't know if Laura, sometimes I'll say something on, you know, live and she'll be like, don't tell people that!
That's a secret!
But we ask about generation.
Were you born in this state?
Are you second generation?
Are you third generation?
To try to catch that and we also ask more than just race we ask ethnicity if you tell us you're white
Okay, what would you consider yourself German Italian and you can pick other maybe you're multi
That's fine But most which one do you most identify with if you're
Hispanic are you Puerto Rican?
Are you Cuban?
Are you Mexican?
Are you Guatemalan?
I mean, what is it?
Asian?
Same thing.
Chinese, Filipino, Japanese.
We're the only ones who do this.
And some of that, Tim, is to try to catch stuff like that.
You know, the more you ask if you can get some of this information, it should throw up red flags that maybe you're missing something or there's a shift coming beneath your feet that you got to try to catch.
tim pool
Let me see.
Let me try and... We had this story pulled up.
Where did it go?
There we go.
Let's talk about this and then we'll get into polls.
We have this story from the New York Post.
Do you want to read the headline?
You made a noise.
richard baris
Joe Biden reportedly exports 5 million oil barrels despite US grants prices.
tim pool
From our strategic oil reserve.
I threw up in my mouth a little bit when I saw this story.
I couldn't believe it.
I couldn't believe that they would be so stupid or just so evil.
Gas prices are through the roof.
They're at record highs.
It's like, I think, $4.80 according to AAA.
It hit $5 a month ago.
People are struggling.
They're dipping into their savings.
They're running out of money.
The supply chain is crippled.
And Joe Biden says, I'm going to pull 20 million barrels.
Strategic Reserve to help make lower prices.
You know what I'm saying?
And then we find out now he exported to Europe and Asia.
So let me just simplify this for you.
At a time when we don't have enough and the prices are through the roof, Biden gave some away.
For what reason?
I don't know how you look at a story like this and think that the Democrats could win anything.
ian crossland
Maybe he exported it at a profit, spiking the market somewhere else.
tim pool
There's one argument that he's trying to spike the price of gas by selling below market, losing money intentionally to force everyone else to compete with the low price.
But he doesn't have enough oil to do that.
richard baris
That's what I was going to say.
It's not enough to drive.
tim pool
I think it has more to do with Ukraine.
richard baris
Oh, well, go ahead.
tim pool
No, yeah, I think it's they want fuel for the war.
And so I think that's what they're doing.
ian crossland
I think he's laundering fuel in Ukraine?
tim pool
Yo, Joe Biden was engaged in illicit deals with Ukraine, and now he's cutting checks by the billion for these people.
ian crossland
If he sends it to Germany, and then Germany sends theirs to Ukraine, we essentially sent it to Ukraine.
richard baris
That's called laundering.
You also have Putin, the movements from the Russian army, we were all told he was going
to go into Kiev, but it was a failure, so we had to pull back.
If you look at where he is, I mean, he's right over the Sheldopods.
So I mean, I don't know how you could look at the Russian military's position and conclude
anything other than the Western media was lying to us and Putin absolutely had a plan.
tim pool
Insane propaganda.
All these videos coming out of Ukrainian soldiers with cigars being like, I just killed a bunch of Russians.
richard baris
What was it, the Kiev?
The pilot?
tim pool
The ghost of Kiev.
ian crossland
It was like day one, day three or something.
tim pool
I like Ukraine.
I have friends there.
Amazing country.
Really enjoyed my time there.
I'm sad to see what's happening, but I am sick of the lies and the manipulation.
I think there's two things.
One, I think it is bad that Putin invaded.
I think he was losing the soft power conflict, so he wants to maintain control of Crimea for the warm water port.
He wants the eastern regions for a lot of reasons.
There's politics, there's ideology, there's partisanship, all that stuff.
However, I think Joe Biden in a much bigger way is beholden to Ukraine for the illicit deals that he was doing.
And that explains it.
Look, people are like, why didn't Vladimir Putin invade when Donald Trump was president?
Good question.
I think Putin did fear Donald Trump a little bit.
Why is all this going down now under Joe Biden?
Because I think Joe Biden was cutting back room deals.
I'm sorry.
unidentified
I'm sorry.
tim pool
I got to pause.
I don't think I know.
Because there's a video of Joe Biden saying, I said, you're not getting the money unless you fire the prosecutor.
Just so happens that prosecutor was investigating the company where Joe Biden's son was on the board.
So I'm not saying that's why he fired the guy.
I'm not going that far.
I'm saying, wouldn't any prosecutor just show that to a jury and be like, hey, how about that?
So now Joe Biden is cutting our taxpayer dollars, or I should say Federal Reserve money, by the billions.
What are they at?
70 billion dollars?
And then he's like, we're gonna send hundreds of millions more weapons and fuel now going to Europe.
I think they got him by the balls.
I think Joe Biden was cutting dirty deals for his son and now he has no choice but to force us to be involved.
And I don't think it's just Joe Biden.
I think it's the bureaucratic state.
They've invested too much in this and they won't back down.
So the Democrats are all on board.
And then the low-information voters who are too stupid to realize what's going on, who couldn't tell you where Qatar was, let alone the Qatar-Turkey pipeline, are sitting there going like, he ain't Joe Biden!
You're a hero!
Slava Ukraine-ia!
richard baris
Which is why it was such a scandal the media held all of this from the American people and electorate to begin with.
Because this is why you care.
whether your president is doing deals like this.
If Obama had appointed him as the front man for U.S.-Ukraine relations,
and he used that position to enrich his family, to enrich himself,
you don't put people who are potentially...
I don't want to use the Rachel Maddow word, but...
They can.
They can.
They got you by the short and curlies and you have no choice.
I mean, the polls have been going back to the polling.
Americans never wanted to do this.
They never wanted to send lethal aid.
At one point, we barely had them teetering in favor of sending humanitarian aid, which is this, you know, very etherical term.
You know, they just view it as money.
But when you got to lethal force or anything else, they were out.
They never, and he just ignored that.
So yeah, have you ever seen an unpopular president ignore the will of the people and do what Joe Biden does in these cases?
I would argue no.
And you never see a congressional democratic leadership, any majority, who has an unpopular president just ignore the unpopularity of these moves and just full steam ahead.
As if there's no political repercussions.
They just don't care, it looks like.
Something else, it's different.
That's not how it works, you know.
Presidents with 37% approval ratings don't have political clout.
tim pool
This is the perfect example of the ship hit the iceberg, and the elites are stealing as much fine china and silverware as they can, running to the lifeboats, and everyone's going, what are you doing?
And they're like, Slava Ukraine!
And you're like, yeah, okay.
And then they jump on the lifeboats, and they're gone.
ian crossland
And then when we fix the boat, they'll be like, oh!
Oh, I found all this silverware that someone was trying to steal!
richard baris
That's so crazy!
unidentified
That's great.
ian crossland
Let me back into my room.
tim pool
I'll see you tomorrow.
I think that's one way to put it.
I wouldn't go so far as to say the ship sinks and we're all just adrift and they're riding away on the lifeboats waving the silverware at us.
I think what's likely to happen is that the ship sinks partially, it's crippled, we're all still on it, life sucks a bit, and then we see them off in the distance partying, cheersing with China, pouring the champagne and being like, there you go.
ian crossland
And then human ingenuity kicks in and we're like, well, we evolved because we have to.
Let's fix this boat.
Question is, do we hunt them down?
Do we sail after these criminals and punish them?
Or do we just live on with our daily lives and make life better?
richard baris
I like your outcome better.
It's more optimistic, you know, but it is true.
I think we'll be okay.
Yeah, the country has a way of righting itself, Tim.
tim pool
But I think bad things are ahead.
I think you look at stories like this and I'm just surprised they would even dare admit it.
richard baris
Yeah.
tim pool
You know, Joe Biden is effectively looking you in the eyes, American people, and saying, hey man, five bucks a gallon?
So what?
I gave your strategic oil reserves away.
lydia smith
Disgusting.
tim pool
The oil that we have saved for a rainy day, not for high prices, but for when we're at war or there's a major shortage, he's just giving it away.
ian crossland
Oh, maybe he considers us at war.
Maybe that's what this is.
I wonder who he sent it to.
tim pool
It was exported to Europe and Asia.
It was sold.
It was transported.
Companies were involved.
Look, I think the official explanation is that they were hoping to shock the market into lower prices.
It's just massively stupid.
Way too little.
I don't care if that was the case.
ian crossland
That's not what strategic oil reserves are for.
tim pool
Exactly.
This is, this reeks of Joe Biden is dragging the United States into a conflict with Russia, NATO is involved, US intelligence is aiding the Ukrainians, and they're just pretending like they didn't unilaterally, unilaterally declare war.
richard baris
Yeah.
tim pool
That's what they do.
ian crossland
When that his advisor came out like three or four days ago, or last week, I think, and said, you know, this is all for he didn't use liberal economic order.
He used the liberal world liberal world order, also known as the liberal economic order, US led global rules based economy.
There's all these names for it.
But then he was pretty clear that that's why we're suffering right now.
richard baris
But then he has the audacity today to go out.
And make the remarks that he makes.
And he chuckles about it.
I call it Putin-flation.
As if anyone believes that.
Nobody believes that.
ian crossland
Dude, he did a talk where he was like, it's Russia.
Russia, Russia, Russia.
Like a Brady Bunch thing.
richard baris
Brady Bunch.
Yep.
Marsha Marsha.
tim pool
They, they, I think at this point he knows he's done.
And, and they, I, I think the Democrats were like, look, we're going to run Biden against Trump.
We're going to get Obama nostalgia.
Then we, we put all of our sins upon him and sacrifices.
richard baris
Yeah.
tim pool
I think all of the really awful things they wanted to do, they put on Biden so that they get them out and then they can be like, Oh, geez.
Oh, you know, we'll come and fix it.
I don't see how any Democrat could win.
richard baris
In 24?
tim pool
In 24.
richard baris
We've pulled them all.
tim pool
Save a miracle.
richard baris
Their problem, because I think you're right about that, they were going to just sacrifice him and put Kamala right in there.
Because these people really believed she was likable or would be liked.
I kid you not.
That's the craziest thing.
The bubble these people live in.
They really thought she was going to be like the second Congress.
unidentified
Have you heard her talk?
richard baris
She basically never got to Iowa, yet somehow the general electorate is going to fall in love with her.
So now they're in this position.
We've polled them all.
Kamala, Pete Buttigieg, Hillary.
Last month I had to bring back Hillary Clinton.
unidentified
No!
I did.
richard baris
Because nobody's viable.
Trump is killing them all.
tim pool
What about Michelle?
richard baris
You know what?
That's the next one I'm going to do because I normally would say, and I'm going to be careful here, She's a lot like Kamala.
Until you see her, she's all shiny and the media paints her up.
But the minute you really focus on her, she's not likable.
She's not nice.
She's nasty.
tim pool
You think she's nasty?
ian crossland
She's the authoritarian in that family.
richard baris
Go back and look at the DNC speech she gave for Biden.
I mean, they painted over it.
What a beautiful speech.
But just go back and watch it yourself and look at her mannerisms.
Notice, by the way, she'll never mention Kamala because she hates Kamala Harris.
tim pool
How funny would it be if the only person they have is Michelle Obama?
unidentified
She walks out with a big ol' smile and she's waving and then she goes, This country is a bunch of disgusting deplorables!
richard baris
Crush them!
unidentified
How do you know she hates Kamala Harris?
richard baris
Uh, no, she hates Kamala Harris.
Um, and actually Obama doesn't like Biden.
tim pool
I mean, because Obama is quoted as saying never underestimate Joe Biden's ability to F things up.
richard baris
She feels like her husband kind of made a fool of her a little bit, and then he did this.
And I'm going to walk the line here, but I'm going to do it.
There's like rumors, and he made this public statement about how she was the most attractive attorney general in the country, which apparently Michelle didn't like very much.
lydia smith
Oh, I see.
richard baris
Then they went on separate vacations.
unidentified
Drama, drama.
Obama drama.
richard baris
Obama is definitely not no drama Obama.
He's got drama.
He's a cool cat in front of the camera.
You've got to give it to him.
Uh, but his wife is not.
And I'm telling you, when that comes out on camera and gets presented to the American people... I know what happened.
tim pool
I know exactly what happened.
Like, they're at a fundraiser, Kamala's sitting there and she's drinking, Obama walks up and they're talking and he goes, uh, you know Kamala, I blew up a bunch of kids when I was president.
And she's like, how many kids did you blow up?
unidentified
A whole bunch.
She's like, wow.
Wow.
tim pool
She's like, I also love torturing people.
He was like, we got something in common.
Yeah, Kamala Harris, man.
When Tulsi Gabbard roasted her on the DNC stage was one of the best moments in political history.
richard baris
And she's got a reputation, which Michelle Obama knew about well before the rest of the country did.
And, you know, I mean, it is what it is.
tim pool
She's got a reputation.
Oh, yeah.
ian crossland
Is that a real?
Oh, it's real.
Basically that she slept her way to the top.
richard baris
She did.
ian crossland
That's the rumor.
richard baris
She slept her way to Willie Brown's top, yeah.
tim pool
She slept with people that she was working with.
ian crossland
Then got promoted?
richard baris
Yes.
And then got like hand-picked by the guy who runs the machine out there, who was her boyfriend, 30 years her elder, I think, right?
Something like that.
Willie Brown.
And sadly, when she first got the top cop job in that city, he was a decent guy.
But Willie just wanted to put his girl in there.
So they destroyed this guy.
And when she did, she broke fundraising laws and, you know, basically had to pay a small fine because of her relationship with Willie and he got her out.
It's bad.
tim pool
You know, I think what actually happened, and I don't blame Obama for this, Kamala got real close, whispered in his ear, tell me about all the kids you blew up.
He was like, oh my, oh my.
unidentified
And that was it.
tim pool
He couldn't handle it.
He was just like, well, there was one kid, and then there was another kid.
lydia smith
Shell did not like that.
tim pool
Actually, all the military age males that we blew up, Who am I up to?
ian crossland
Michelle's like, what are you on the phone with her for three hours at night about?
tim pool
Don't worry about the kids.
So there was a thing called the disposition matrix.
You familiar with it?
No.
The disposition matrix is the formal name for Obama's kill list.
Yes, he was given what it was called like baseball cards every Tuesday and he would select who to kill So he's he's in his you know, he's in his bed and he's sitting on his stomach was kicking his feet and he's like Well, we had on war unlucky blow him up.
He was American citizen No charge of trial and then I blew up a son and then he starts listing all people just on the list and camels like Oh say more names.
Who else did you blow up?
What about Julian Assange locked him in a prison?
Yeah, you know, that was all the authoritarian wet dreams.
richard baris
Yeah, that was one of the worst stories of his presidency.
tim pool
Well, Abdulrahman Al-Awlaki.
richard baris
Yeah, I mean, collateral, you know, whoops, collateral.
Yeah, it was me either.
But for those that don't know, because yeah, people should know.
tim pool
Anwar al-Awlaki was a jihadi.
He was an American citizen.
And so we blew him up.
That was it.
A drone strike killed him without charge or trial.
ian crossland
In Somalia, right?
tim pool
I think it was in Somalia, yeah.
ian crossland
Or was it in Yemen?
It was in Yemen.
richard baris
Anwar was in Yemen, I think.
Yeah, Anwar was in Yemen, I think.
ian crossland
Oh, I thought they were both.
tim pool
Abdulrahman was in Yemen.
richard baris
Then they both were, right?
They might have been.
tim pool
Yeah.
So Anwar al-Awlaki was an American citizen who was killed by Obama.
That's murder.
Who's murdered?
ian crossland
Yeah, Anwar was killed in Yemen for sure.
tim pool
Okay, Yemen.
That's just murder.
You don't get to do that.
It's a military operation targeting an American citizen.
No, we have charge or trial.
You can't execute somebody who's an American citizen, let alone, I don't like the fact they do it to anybody.
Abdulrahman al-Awlaki was a 16-year-old American citizen who was vacationing in Yemen visiting his grandparents, blew up a civilian restaurant with a drone strike and went, oops, I don't buy it.
My opinion is, Obama was telling everybody, if you screw with us, I will murder your kids.
That's what he did.
richard baris
Whether it was intentional or not, fine.
I mean, Tim, this is a guy who worked with the Bush administration, but after 9-11, the Bush State Department was looking around for influential Imams To help them reach out to the Muslim community.
Anwar al-Awlaki was one of the invites.
He got invited to that initial dinner, come hang out, let's all get together, figure out how to do outreach.
He was an imam in Virginia.
So how did he get from, you know, you're going to be our point man to the Muslim American community in the DC suburbs?
How did you go from that to being public enemy number one?
What happened in the time period You know, where Bush cut him loose.
tim pool
And we're supposed to believe his kid died in an accident.
richard baris
It's too much.
tim pool
I'll tell you this.
richard baris
And then no trial?
tim pool
If anyone in this country accidentally killed a 16-year-old and blew up a civilian restaurant, would they be in prison?
richard baris
Right.
tim pool
You betcha.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Not Obama.
ian crossland
He killed the son two weeks after he killed the dad.
richard baris
That's right.
tim pool
Blowing up a civilian restaurant.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
He was eating outside at a civilian restaurant in Yemen.
tim pool
That's right.
And the Obama administration ordered a drone strike, blowing them up.
That's the disposition matrix.
richard baris
Could you imagine if Trump did that?
They went nuts when he killed Ghassan Soleimani.
tim pool
Trump had a commando raid that killed Abdur Rahman's younger sister.
richard baris
Was there a legitimate target in that though?
tim pool
There's a legitimate target in the claims of the Abdulrahman al-Awlaki situation.
Now, the one thing I will say is, I think all of it demands an investigation.
If Trump ordered a commando raid and a seven-year-old American girl was killed, I want to see it here.
richard baris
Absolutely.
tim pool
However, with Abdulrahman al-Awlaki, this is definitive.
We have the reports, we have the official statements from the U.S.
government.
They know they did it.
They admit they did it.
With Donald Trump and the seven-year-old sister of Abdurahman, we have family testimony that this is actually what happened.
So no real hard evidence other than claims made by people who are there.
Either way, I'd love to see an inquiry.
I don't think we should sit back and allow the executive branch to just be like, we killed somebody, we were accused, we ignore it.
I'm not saying put Trump on trial and scream and wave your arms in the air.
I'm saying let's get a real answer as to what that was.
richard baris
You mess up.
tim pool
I'm also, I'm also not going to play this game where, you know, I say, oh, okay, well, you know, Trump did it.
No, no, no.
Obama was, was the one who, who killed these people.
And I think it was four American citizens.
Then we can have, we can have a discussion about what happened with Trump in a commando raid.
But I want to, I want to start with Obama first and not lose track of things.
Not that I think anyone's, anything will ever happen.
richard baris
But justifying it's, it's, that's a dangerous line.
Justifying he was just a terrorist.
You know, he was Al Qaeda's main propaganda guy.
He ran in spire.
Look at January 6th, everything that's going on.
You could be the domestic terrorist tomorrow.
unidentified
That's right.
richard baris
I could be the domestic terrorist tomorrow.
And that was just completely blown over, you know, and we all went on with our lives.
tim pool
And don't think that the U.S.
government is beyond this stuff.
We've seen what happened with, what was it, in Philadelphia?
What was it, the cops blew up that neighborhood?
Do you remember what that was called?
richard baris
I don't.
I don't, but, you know, there's plenty of examples of these.
tim pool
Kent State.
richard baris
Ruby Ridge.
tim pool
Oh, man.
Yeah, that's right.
richard baris
Even Waco.
tim pool
I was just at Waco, too.
ian crossland
Brutal stuff.
I went to Kent State.
tim pool
Let's, I guess, laugh.
ian crossland
1985 Philadelphia bombing.
Is this it?
Yeah.
Change the city forever?
This is like something that has not got a lot of attention.
I don't know.
tim pool
Oh, that gets a lot of attention all the time.
It comes up regularly.
But let's do this.
Let's laugh as we watch The Demise.
I have this tweet from Leftism4U.
Just another day in New York City.
lydia smith
Insane.
tim pool
At Bell Fries in NYC, some women got angry that extra sauce cost, I think it was $1.50, and so they just ransacked the whole place.
Jumping over, smashing everything, attacking people, and just destroying everything.
Why is there so many videos like this?
Something is happening in places like New York.
Get out of the city is the only thing I can say.
The official story, apparently.
Yeah, okay.
$1.75.
Women destroy Manhattan business, leaving employees bloodied for $1.75.
Couldn't get their extra sauce.
ian crossland
What's happening?
People are disarmed and unable to defend themselves.
The first thing I saw when I watched this video, I was thinking about it from the person's perspective that was being attacked and having their business destroyed or whoever they were.
What if they were armed and they fired at the attackers?
Would that have been justified?
tim pool
They'd go to jail.
richard baris
In New York, you could have a major problem.
I personally know somebody who...
If the governor himself didn't get involved in New Jersey, it would have went a lot different for him.
And that was defending himself and his wife against an attacker.
They wanted him to use equal force in his own home.
Came home from work.
But he didn't use equal force, or at least attempt to.
tim pool
That's an insane concept.
unidentified
It's crazy.
tim pool
Define equal force.
richard baris
Exactly.
tim pool
How do you know if the guy in front of you is a black belt or not?
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu MMA.
Oh, well, your officer, I shot him because I saw his ears.
He had cauliflower ears.
That justified equal force, right?
How do you have no, you have no idea.
When I, when, when we had, uh, back in, when I was in Jersey, we had a crazy pedo guy trying to break in.
Like, and you know, he's like, tell my story.
And like, we hear it's like three in the morning.
I call the cops.
I'm like, yo.
And the cop said to me, he's like, if it were me, I'd answer the door with a shotgun.
And I was like, okay.
So I went on my journey trying to figure out how to get a gun.
It was very difficult.
I was lied to left and right.
Finally figured out how to get one.
And then I was sold basically the way it was broken down to me.
If you're in your house, someone breaks in.
In New Jersey, you have to flee your home.
You have to jump out the window or whatever, get away.
Only if you're cornered.
And then I'm like, okay, how do you define cornered?
I don't know.
You're going to get arrested.
You're going to get charged with murder.
And then you're going to argue to the jury why it wasn't actually murder.
So it's like, okay, so a guy can break to my house and I can't defend myself without getting charged with felonies and arrested.
That's right.
I'm leaving this day.
That's what I said.
I'm out.
richard baris
In this case, it was, uh, he was being, I mean, he was messed up.
He was being brutally assaulted with a piece of firewood that was by the fireplace the guy just took it and just started, you know, viciously beating him over the head with it.
Cracking his face.
So, he was a plumber and he took one of the box cutter knives he still had his tool belt on.
He came home from work and he found the guy in there with his wife and assaulting her.
tim pool
Wow.
richard baris
And he was not as strong as the guy.
So he got... The guy was on top of him, hitting him with wood.
He took a box cutter.
They arrested him, charged him.
He had to later demonstrate that he was, you know... This is New Jersey, right?
Yes.
tim pool
This is the annoying thing, because I had a lot of people say to me, no, Tim, you're wrong.
New Jersey's partial castle doctrine.
You can defend yourself in your own home.
richard baris
No.
tim pool
No.
richard baris
No, it's not.
tim pool
It's crazy that anyone would think New Jersey, what do they call it?
One of the evil seven.
That's what gun owners call them.
Would allow this.
No, no, no.
You're in your home.
And so, the way the house we had was set up is, my room, there's no way out.
You jump out the window from the second floor.
So if someone broke in, I'm like, I got one path.
I have no choice.
So I see someone breaking in my house, and I'm supposed to stop and try and discern, do they have a weapon?
Are they gonna attack me in my own home?
I guess I'll just wait and find out.
That's New Jersey for you.
richard baris
You need the governor to come in and try to basically help you based on a castle doctrine rule.
No lawyer is going to walk into a court and argue that to get you off.
It was crazy.
And that story has a really tragic ending by the way.
Oh, the whole family was destroyed over it.
It was just terrible.
tim pool
West Virginia is a bit different.
richard baris
A little bit!
tim pool
West Virginia, it's actually kind of crazy.
Depending on who you ask, obviously you want to be reasonable, but if you're out on your property in the middle of the night and someone's trespassing on your land, you are in many circumstances justified in using lethal force against them.
Now, not entirely.
It depends on standing your ground.
Someone's trespassing, you have no assumption, like you have no duty to make assumptions about who they are, what they're doing, if they're on your property late at night and you feel threatened.
Now, if it's during the day and you see someone walking on your land, you have to be like, hey, get off, leave now or else.
But Maryland's a bit better, not that great, not much better than New Jersey.
So we've talked about all this stuff.
In Maryland, You don't have a duty to retreat from your home, but you do have a duty to retreat to your home.
So if you're outside and someone starts walking on the property, you have to tell them to leave.
If they don't, you go into your house.
richard baris
Go inside, okay.
tim pool
If they then try to enter, you are justified using force.
And I think the reason this probably happens is because Maryland, although it is still a very awful gun rights state, you still have Western Maryland which wants to be West
Virginia. In West Virginia, it's basically, were you reasonable in trying to avoid harm? You don't have
to retreat to your house. It's your property. We're not going to make assumptions. And that
makes sense too. And the issue is, in West Virginia, your property is probably a big piece of
land.
So if you're on like, different situation, right, if you're on 10 acres of open land, and you're,
you know, doing something on your property, you can't necessarily retreat to your house.
So that's why it's a bit different.
But West Virginia is a bit better.
And then you got like Texas.
richard baris
And Florida.
Florida's pretty good too.
tim pool
Yeah, Texas and Florida are basically like, what is it, make my day laws or something like that?
richard baris
Yeah, make my day.
You're basically, somebody's walking on your yard, they don't respond, you're good to put one in their left cheek at least.
Yikes.
But again, there have been pushes in the last 10 years especially.
Saw it with Trayvon Martin.
That was a national case.
They tried to come after the Stand Your Ground.
But George Zimmerman was acquitted because he was, in that case, it's a perfect example.
tim pool
They lied about everything.
richard baris
He felt like he had a reasonable fear that his life was in danger.
tim pool
Well, he was on the ground.
richard baris
He was getting his head beaten in.
tim pool
Being punched in the face repeatedly.
richard baris
That's right.
tim pool
And the media lied about everything.
richard baris
As they always do.
tim pool
And then you actually ended up seeing this at the surveillance footage.
One, we learned Zimmerman was a Mexican guy and his face was bloodied up.
richard baris
I remember that.
ian crossland
Zimmerman was following Trayvon Martin and then Martin was like, hey, stop following me.
And the guy was like, I have a reason to suspect you're doing something.
And then Trayvon jumped on him.
Attacked him, basically?
tim pool
We don't know exactly what happened.
We know that Zimmerman was driving in his truck.
He sees Trayvon Martin with a hoodie, walking through these yards.
And then a confrontation ensued.
He called 9-1-1 and said, hey, this guy looks pretty suspicious.
He's wearing a hoodie.
And then they said, describe him to us.
NBC takes that audio and removes the questioning from the 9-1-1.
So you just hear Zimmerman being like, he's suspicious.
He looks black.
Even though that's not what he said, they asked him.
A fight broke out for some reason.
Trayvon had him on the ground, and he was doing what was called a ground-and-pound, where he was pummeling him.
Yeah.
ian crossland
That's when the ref will pull you off an MMA.
tim pool
Zimmerman on the ground.
ian crossland
Because that means the fight's over at that point.
richard baris
Exactly.
tim pool
Zimmerman on the ground, pulled out his gun and fired into his chest.
And then the media lied about everything.
richard baris
Yeah.
tim pool
And they claimed that he was a racist white guy profiling a black teenager, and it's like Zimmerman's Mexican.
It's a Florida Neighborhood Watch thing.
Trayvon was beating him up.
You know what I think happened?
I think Zimmerman was overzealous.
I think he was probably like, I'm Neighborhood Watch.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Trayvon Martin was, like, disrespected and insulted by it, said screw you, who are you, you can't tell me what to do.
Two guys got into a fight, one guy had a gun.
That's what happens.
This narrative about a racist white guy, it's like Zimmerman wasn't even a cop, he was just some dude.
richard baris
Yeah, totally irrelevant.
unidentified
Totally irrelevant.
tim pool
So that's the narrative they run with, and now I saw this thing about, like, it's like Gen Z and millennials running for office.
And then this one guy, and he was like, a racist white man killed Trayvon Martin, and that woke me up, and I'm like, this dude doesn't even read.
He just got memes off the internet, he believes the memes, and now we've got to deal with governance based on memes.
ian crossland
He's having that dream where he woke up in his dream, but he's still sleeping, but he thinks he woke up, and he's like, but why is reality still so weird?
Because you're still sleeping, bro.
tim pool
So look, New York is...
ian crossland
Well, what's the reason I brought it up?
Do you think that these big cities are going to eventually start laxing gun laws and be like, we need the civilians to step up and help us police our city because the cops can't do it?
I saw Philadelphia, almost like a raid where there's like a hundred or more people on the street, just screaming and fighting.
And like four cops, I think were present.
Completely uncapable.
I mean, at some point you tap the militia and you're like, yo, we need help.
tim pool
San Francisco, they were raiding those stores.
They just run in and steal everything and run out.
ian crossland
Yeah, you can't.
tim pool
Civilization breaking down, man.
richard baris
New York has a history of that, too.
They had, and the name is escaping me, but they would run around with the red on, something angels, I think they were called.
And they were basically, really when Mayer started with a D before Giuliani, the city was a wreck.
So the town came, you know, the city, each borough had their own angels that would come, and they, man, they policed the subways.
I remember them, actually.
Remember the subway vigilante?
They policed the subways, the streets, yes!
tim pool
That's coming back.
That's scary.
richard baris
That was my point.
ian crossland
This stuff will... Guardian angels?
richard baris
The guardian angels, thank you!
And one of them even ran for mayor once.
ian crossland
It was a non-profit international volunteer organization.
richard baris
They did the job.
They would effect citizens' arrests and everything.
ian crossland
So did the mayor ask for their help?
unidentified
Nope.
ian crossland
They just stood up and were like, militia time.
tim pool
Well, you know the story of the subway vigilante, right?
ian crossland
I don't know, no.
tim pool
So, uh, do you know the story?
richard baris
I do.
Yeah, I mean, I was young, but I mean, it was big news.
tim pool
You were in New York at the time?
richard baris
Yeah.
tim pool
You want to tell the story?
richard baris
No, I just remember this guy was running around basically, uh, you know, Being?
tim pool
Well, there was one major incident.
richard baris
It was, it was one guy, right?
It didn't turn out to be a group.
tim pool
It was one guy, and he was on the subway, and he, I think he shot, what was it, three or five people, uh, and then he was accused by the left of being racist.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That he racially profiled some black men and shot them.
He said he was being mugged, and so he defended himself with an illegal weapon.
I think, I think it might have been...
richard baris
No, the gun was illegal, I think.
tim pool
It was illegal.
richard baris
I think so, yeah.
So you had people both sides of the aisle, you know, constantly outside protesting.
tim pool
But he was a folk hero in New York.
richard baris
Yes.
tim pool
The crime was so bad.
richard baris
T-shirts.
tim pool
Yep.
People were just like, yay, fight back!
The crime was so bad.
richard baris
Very unassuming white guy, you know, like middle, right?
Middle-aged, I think he was.
I mean, very unassuming.
And then people, of course, looked at him like, yeah, this guy's trying to be a hero.
He was... Basically what they did to Richard Jewell, the left tried to do to him, I don't know.
ian crossland
What's Richard Jewell?
What's his story?
richard baris
He was a security guard in Atlanta when the bombing went off during, what, the Olympics or something, right?
I think so.
tim pool
They made a movie about him.
richard baris
They did make a movie about him.
tim pool
They tried accusing him of being the bomber.
richard baris
Yeah.
tim pool
Unbelievable.
He was actually the hero.
richard baris
He was a security guard.
He was the hero who cleared the area out.
I mean, the media killed this man.
tim pool
Yeah.
richard baris
They killed him.
They ran his health into the ground and his heart literally gave up.
tim pool
That's so musty.
ian crossland
It was, yeah, the Centennial Olympic Park bombing.
1996 Summer Olympics in Atlanta.
richard baris
That's right.
It was security for the music that was going on there at the time, and he saw a suspicious pack.
Every, by the way, all the cops, there were feds around, they always mocked him, said he's the overzealous cop wannabe.
He was a deputy in a neighboring town at one point, but he was right about that book bag.
He was right.
And he cleared everybody out, and he saved who knows how many lives.
But the feds had nowhere to start.
So they looked right at Richard Jewell.
It really was the Fed's fault before it was the media's fault.
tim pool
This is one of the reasons the country's falling apart.
I made a video, man, I think it's been four years, talking about why men are no longer helping women and children.
I read this story about a guy who was in a store and this woman, this female journalist, saw him walking down the aisle and there was a little kid who was crying and alone.
She looks to this guy, he stops, turns around and immediately runs away.
She sees people come up to help the kid.
Once she realizes the kid's safe, she runs up to the guy and asks him, why didn't you help this kid?
And he says, are you kidding?
I'd be accused of being the kidnapper or something.
I'm not going anywhere near that kid.
And she was like, this man saw a child in distress and ran away because he would be accused.
And so there was another story where a woman was being beaten in the subway and everyone just watched.
And then she got really mad, she's like, why aren't the men standing up and protecting me?
It's like, because nobody wants to be involved, because the legal ramifications are, you go to jail if you try and stop them.
This was four years ago, now look at New York City.
What would happen?
You got these women smashing up this rest, this burger place or whatever, Bell Fries, whatever it is, and they're ripping things apart, they're throwing things at this guy.
What would happen if he took any, any weapon to defend himself?
They'd go crazier.
They'd get even more angry.
They'd attack him even more.
richard baris
You'd be a frenzy.
tim pool
The guys would then be like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
And then more people would jump in.
What if he then pulled out a gun?
If someone does pull out a gun, you get a shootout.
Then if this guy defined it himself, not only that, the city would probably come after him.
So he does nothing.
These three women, I guess, have been arrested and charged over what happened.
Well, that's good.
But no, it's not.
It's something.
If you break into my place of business and you're doing this, I should be allowed to stop you.
ian crossland
For sure.
But you're not.
tim pool
Not in New York.
unidentified
It's like the protests in the summer of love.
Like you had to just put up with your business getting attacked.
tim pool
Otherwise you were a racist.
unidentified
The cause is always more important than people.
tim pool
There's this meme, they're like, people keep saying, I understand it's wrong that a black man lost his life, but it's wrong that buildings are being destroyed.
And you should be saying, I understand it's wrong that buildings are destroyed, but it's worse that a black man lost his life.
And I'm like, how about this?
We all agree that innocent and unarmed people should not be killed.
That doesn't justify you burning down or looting the neighborhood.
And it's nothing to do with each other.
This is the game they play.
They'll- what's the argument for this stuff?
The looting and the chaos and the destruction.
What's the argument?
richard baris
Yeah.
Normally they have some kind of social justice angle that they want to- they want the greater good.
There's no greater good here.
There's a $1.75 for extra sauce.
tim pool
Why isn't the right leading with this story?
Why is the right always just responding?
richard baris
I was just gonna say, they're never really proactive.
That's what separates, I would say, I think why Ron DeSantis is really starting to gain traction with some people.
tim pool
But even he's still reactive.
richard baris
Yeah, he's starting to get a little bit more reactive, but for the first year or so, he was seeming like he understood they gotta call the shots, call the shots.
But the right doesn't do that.
And even Trump, after a while, they started to pin him into a reaction corner.
unidentified
They're kind of addicted to that defensive posture and feeling beaten down.
richard baris
Cowards.
I'm willing to bet.
tim pool
Even if Republicans win in November, they're not going to do anything.
richard baris
I don't think they will, Tim.
Honestly, we've been down this road before, and I don't mean to be Johnny Raincloud to some of you at home, but look, 2010.
Give us the house.
We'll repeal Obamacare.
tim pool
Oh, yeah, right.
richard baris
We need the Senate.
We need the Senate.
Give it to us in 2014.
We'll get it done.
Then they finally get a president willing to sign it and they fold.
Paul Ryan, right to Hannity.
I will never forget that.
Because I knew he was lying.
I knew because people in the Freedom Caucus basically were having a canary over his plan, which he barely showed to them at this time.
But he went right to Sean Hannity.
Sat right in the chair, looked right in the eyes.
We have a consensus plan.
And Hannity was like, you have a consensus?
We have a consensus.
People in the other room were jumping up and down.
They knew he was lying because they barely had showed him a peak of their plan and it was the more moderate plan that was never going to sell with the Freedom Caucus.
So I see this happening all over again.
tim pool
The Democrats say, we want universal healthcare, a sweeping overhaul of the entire medical system in this country that would radically transform 20% of the economy.
And Republicans say, we'll give you some.
Then the left goes, the Republicans are blocking us from our dreams.
And it's like, bro, you're steamrolling the entire country.
Then they're like, we want gun control.
We want to ban all these guns.
Republicans go, we'll ban some of them with you.
And the Democrats go, the Republicans are obstructing our goals.
And meanwhile, I'm sitting here like, Can we just repeal these gun laws?
Not a single person.
Maybe, I think, Lauren Boebert, perhaps.
We've had a few people from the Freedom Caucus express their willingness to repeal the NFA and other unconstitutional gun laws.
But in the end, you get, what, three to five people who are like, yeah, those gun laws do actually infringe upon your right to keep and bear arms.
I'll do something about that.
But 90% of Republicans are just like, no, we'll give Democrats everything they want.
Just slowly.
ian crossland
I used to be kind of for universal healthcare.
I thought it was an interesting idea.
Um, now I think of chronic illness as like on the individual, like if someone overeats or eats a lot of sugar and then they get diabetes and then they have to go to the hospital and spend 30 grand a year on medicine.
I don't want to pay for that person's laziness or inability to control their own diet.
Like there are some chronic systems where the person maybe is born with some degenerative disease or neurologic.
Then I'm talking, that's a different story, but I am not here to placate gluttony.
unidentified
But also our options for what we're eating have been turned into poison.
So that's not anyone's fault.
ian crossland
Well, it's the pharmaceutical industry working with the food industry.
So they feed you sickening foods and then give you the medicine.
unidentified
So it's hard to place blame on the individual.
tim pool
Sort of.
ian crossland
I mean, look... I don't blame them.
tim pool
I just don't want to pay for them.
I agree with you that our food choices have become trash.
The nutritional density... I do blame them.
The nutritional density of our food has gone down quite a bit, so people are eating a lot of starches and salts and other garbage food, but you still can do better.
ian crossland
Dietary ignorance, that's an interesting idea, is the person that's overeating at fault if they don't know.
unidentified
Well, you can condition with a food pyramid that has bread on the bottom.
Like, I just don't think it's anyone's fault if they've been taught everything incorrectly about how to take care of themselves.
tim pool
I think they have some blame there.
Like, you can't just be like, I did what other people told me to do so it's their fault.
It's like, dude, you're a human being, you have your own rights.
unidentified
People are stupid.
tim pool
If a stupid person gets in a car and then crashes it, is it their fault?
Of course.
unidentified
But I read that I could drive.
tim pool
That doesn't mean anything.
You are responsible as the individual.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So as much as I agree with you, there are macro problems.
Our food sucks and people eat garbage.
Yo, I drive past McDonald's.
I see people in the drive-thru.
I don't understand it.
Legit.
Have you ever taken a McDonald's burger bun and like split it open and looked inside?
Looks like styrofoam.
richard baris
It's disgusting.
tim pool
It's crazy.
Wendy's is not that bad.
richard baris
I can't, I can't stand.
ian crossland
It's a potassium bromate, I think.
tim pool
I don't know what it is, but it doesn't look like food.
ian crossland
It's banned in Europe.
tim pool
It doesn't look and it and you ever see those things where like they take the McDonald's and they put it in the room and leave it for a month and it doesn't grow mold.
Yo, I don't understand how people eat that stuff.
richard baris
Preservatives.
tim pool
And it's expensive.
richard baris
Yeah, I gotta tell you the one thing about the pandemic that drives me.
I blame the pharmaceuticals and the politicians for just being cowards and corrupt because they took all this money.
They couldn't speak up, you know, but If anything, we should have gotten from the pandemic was a discussion about health.
And the fact, look, COVID, it could have taught us something about being healthy and comorbidities.
And we just kind of mulled right over that.
And companies like McDonald's and Krispy Kreme, who contribute to the problem, had the audacity to give away like a free donut or a free McDonald's if you went out and got the vaccine.
That tells you everything.
tim pool
I got no issue with Krispy Kreme.
I don't eat it.
It's pure sugar and starch.
richard baris
You know, to each his own, but I'm not doing it.
tim pool
I'm not going to eat it, but here's the idea.
You know, so I had a hot dog over Fourth of July.
I had a hot dog and a burger as bread.
I've not been eating any bread.
I've not been eating carbs or whatever, but it's fine.
If you have a burger and a hot dog, it's no big deal.
The problem is people take like 10 buns and like a whole dozen Krispy Kremes and mash them together and just eat them.
Yo, I went to a restaurant in Miami.
They had a bread pudding.
I ordered it and it was this stack of, you know, you guys have had bread pudding, yeah?
richard baris
Yeah, it sounds good.
tim pool
Delicious.
And I was like, this tastes like, is this Krispy Kreme?
Yo, they took like a dozen donuts and they mush it together into a small thing
and then glaze it.
And I was like, this is insane.
richard baris
But working out, Tim, people don't know the benefits of being healthy.
Diet's only one side of that.
And you can have your starches and your carbs if you balance it correctly, you take moderation and you work out.
And I just started myself, you know, I just hit that, that, that four row period.
I'm like, man, you better get in shape before it's too late.
You won't be able to do it again.
And you know, it's just a matter of, it's just a matter of statistics.
If you were in better shape, you had less, you were at less risk.
ian crossland
And people, people, vitamin D came out so many times.
I heard vitamin D, but I haven't heard like a concerted push from the CDC or from Anthony Fauci or from the government or any of it about vitamin D and sunlight.
tim pool
And people are very deficient.
ian crossland
Yeah, yeah.
richard baris
Absolutely.
ian crossland
Especially people like, from like an African ancestry with the darker, with a lot of melatonin, or it was a melanin.
Melanin.
Melanin, not melatonin.
That makes you tired.
richard baris
That makes you sleep.
ian crossland
But it's because they require, that skin requires more sunlight, just in general.
That's what, so it needs more.
And if it has not as much, it gets more deficient quicker.
Also, here's an article from Fox8.com.
Coronavirus found on ice cream in China.
All right, let's talk about this.
Let's have a global discussion about coronavirus living in and on food.
richard baris
It's a little symbolic.
unidentified
Remember at the beginning of the pandemic when there were all those videos of people going into the freezer aisle at grocery stores and licking the ice cream?
richard baris
Yeah.
unidentified
That was such a weird sigh.
tim pool
And then the crazy thing was, you had the one woman who did it, she got arrested.
Then you had this one guy who faked it, and he thought it was funny, like, I'm not really doing it, and he still got arrested.
Because they're like, you don't understand, you're being arrested for causing a panic, not for licking the ice cream.
richard baris
Right, right.
tim pool
Because people now won't buy it, it caused a huge market disruption.
Yo, she took the thing off the ice cream, licked it, and put it back.
And they didn't know which Walmart it was, so every Walmart immediately got the call, like, you gotta throw all this ice cream away.
unidentified
But I heard that she bought it after.
She just did it for attention online.
tim pool
Right, but it doesn't matter.
unidentified
They can sue her for that?
tim pool
Oh, for sure.
unidentified
I mean, there's no crime, right?
tim pool
It is a crime, yes.
unidentified
What's the crime?
tim pool
So if you put out a video where you lick a product and put it back, no one knows what product that was.
So what happens is 100,000 people watch that and say, I will not buy that ice cream anymore.
And the store has no choice.
richard baris
It's almost like screaming fire in a crowded theater.
tim pool
Let's say she has herpes.
We don't know.
And she licks the ice cream and puts it back.
The store, because they don't see her then pick it back up and buy it, has to assume every single ice cream is contaminated and they have to throw away at every store that has it.
So it resulted in this massive purge of all this ice cream and then she was like, it was a joke, and they were like, you contaminated a product by putting it back in.
You committed a crime.
unidentified
What a waste.
ian crossland
What a waste.
I don't know how many hundreds of thousands of dollars I'd imagine what a waste cream
What a way well Walmart lost the money Walmart so do Walmart sue her for the lost money
tim pool
I don't know all I know is people saw that and they were like not realizing that it was a gag
unidentified
We're like I'll do a gag and did the exact same thing Am I right that that was at the beginning of COVID?
ian crossland
It was early on.
I don't remember when though, but I remember it being early on.
richard baris
I also saw one with a woman licking, like, MacBook laptops that were out on display, and she was like, licking her hand and wiping the screen, licking her hand and wiping the screen.
tim pool
I'm sorry, but society is collapsing.
There's a video of a guy, he grabs mouthwash, opens it, swishes with it, spits it back and puts it back on the shelf.
People are narcissistic psychopaths who want likes.
And are doing insane things without repercussion.
They're going inside restaurants.
They're smashing things up.
They just don't care anymore.
Nobody cares.
There's no community.
There's no communal bonds.
There's no fear.
unidentified
There's no shame either.
ian crossland
It's definitely hyperbolic.
I think there is a tendency towards that now, and it's addictive or contagious, but there are a lot of people that want structure and stability that just aren't making idiot videos.
You see the idiocy.
It screams louder.
The one that screams is louder than the other.
richard baris
If you replace that desire, like somebody said community, if you replace that with the human connection, would they stop doing that?
I mean, are they seeking these other more destructive things because they don't have those bonds and those connections?
tim pool
Maybe some people need religion.
You hear a lot of secular people say, like, you need, you know, the Ten Commandments to stop you from doing these things.
Like, man, that's scary.
And it's kind of like, maybe that's true for some people.
Maybe there are a lot of people of, you know, higher brain function who are like, you know, I don't want to hurt you because I don't want someone to hurt me and I respect these laws.
And maybe there are a lot of people who just don't know, don't care and need They need a code of ethics, and they need community.
ian crossland
But they don't necessarily need an organized religion.
tim pool
They need fear of social ostracize.
ian crossland
Yeah, and kids should know that from an early age.
I used to have my privileges taken away by my parents.
If I did something wrong, said something I wasn't supposed to say, did something I wasn't supposed to do, I lost all my privileges.
I couldn't watch TV, couldn't play video games, I had to sit in my room alone and quiet.
They were teaching me, if you go into society and you screw people, they're gonna seize your privileges in society.
unidentified
There are levels to why people don't do bad things, right?
Like, fear is just the lowest level, but ultimately our goal should be that they want the good.
richard baris
Well, like what you said, I don't want someone to do it to me back.
tim pool
Listen, listen.
Right now, the incentive is to do bad.
The bad things get you views, get you likes, and could even make you famous and rich.
So the people are going out and they're doing horrifying things online because it's working for them.
Yo, you know what really pisses me off?
I've been skateboarding most of my life, and I see these videos go viral, get shared by pros of people fighting security guards.
And I'm like, get that off Instagram, dude.
There was a security guard who got put into his... I think he died.
Some dude went to prison.
Because these skateboarders, they always make these videos where they go and skate a street spot, like a private property.
The security guard comes out and says, hey, you gotta leave.
And they're like, nah.
And then they'll like shove the security guard or they'll fight with them.
That's what they do.
And they go viral.
And people are like, oh.
There are also videos where the security guard goes like, one more try.
And they'll be like, yeah.
And they'll try one more time.
But whenever you get these videos where they're fighting with security guards, that pisses me off.
What you're supposed to do when you're skating is security guard says, leave, you leave.
You say, okay, I'm sorry, you leave.
You come back when you're not bothering somebody.
But this guy, these guys were skating, I think it was an SF, and security guard came out and said, you gotta leave.
And so someone shoved him, and then the security guard took a swing at another guy, who then shoved him and he fell down, hit his head, and I think he died.
I think he died.
And so that skateboarder who was committing a crime and attacked somebody went to prison.
richard baris
It's not good for the cause.
ian crossland
Well, at least he went to prison.
tim pool
But the problem is these videos are still on Instagram.
They still glorify this stuff and they always have.
You know, it was rare back in the day watching the jackass stuff.
Those guys were like picking on each other.
But there were elements of that where they would screw with other people.
And then the whole prank culture started to expand and get crazier and crazier where you had the people just like going up to random people and screaming at them and just doing the craziest things.
YouTube started to get rid of all this stuff.
But you look at what's happening now with the licking ice cream.
You look at these videos of the nurse being like, I lost a patient, oh my life.
People are psychotic narcissists.
ian crossland
Do you think that people need an enemy to fight?
tim pool
I don't know about needing an enemy, but people want... They need meaning, you know, right?
richard baris
Meaning.
tim pool
But I think, look, there's obviously varying tiers of, let's just say perspicacity.
There are some people who are as dumb as a box of rocks.
We know some people are stupid, some people are smart.
There are some people who are just as basic as they come, they want attention, and they don't care how they get it.
Then there are people who are just of a higher moral, for whatever reason, moral standing, where they're just like, I don't want to do that, I have scruples, that makes me feel bad doing that.
But some people don't have that.
Some people don't have that conscience for whatever reason.
And they're the ones who are going to go out and make a video mocking the dead, dancing on the graves.
Look at the TikTok nurses.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Dancing on the graves of the COVID victims.
And people on the left praised them.
And they got mad at me when I said that.
I was like, dude, there's a guy dying right there.
And these nurses are doing these shuffle dances.
unidentified
And their excuse is like, oh, they're using humor as a coping mechanism for all of the tragedy around them.
Like, no, they just think it's a laughing matter that, you know.
tim pool
No, they just don't care.
unidentified
Yeah, your family members are in their care.
tim pool
There's a video where you actually see patients filming, and there's people shuffle dancing.
So they're filming a bit, but the video itself is from a patient going, is this why we can't get any help right now?
Is this why we're not getting taken care of?
And they're filming the TikTok nurses doing their TikTok dances.
I swear, man, all those people should have been fired.
But our culture is fractured, sick.
I tell you this, man, if I worked at a hospital, if I was a boss at a hospital, and I walked in and saw Shuffle Dancing, I'd be like, each and every one of you get out.
ian crossland
In defense of the nurses, it'd be like if they were like in trauma situation, and like in the military, when the military platoon makes a kill, you know, in the horror of war, there have been people, at least they have friends of mine that are soldiers, will say humors gets used to cope in the moment.
richard baris
That's true.
ian crossland
And the sergeant won't fire them all on the spot.
richard baris
But I don't know if we can equate that to that.
And also I would say that that's never gonna happen because we have such a few shortages of healthcare people.
unidentified
There's an even worse nurse shortage than there was before COVID.
tim pool
And it's only getting worse, but we do gotta go to Super Chats.
We're a little behind.
If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, and become a member at TimCast.com to help us ramp up production on a bunch of new shows.
I saw someone mention They said, Tim, you talk about food shortages and all this stuff.
Why don't you do a show on survival and gardening?
We are preparing that.
We, uh, being out here in the middle of nowhere, we know a lot of people who know all the hidden secrets of eating dandelions and wine berries and pawpaw, raising chickens and goats, a lot of farmers, good people.
And so we're actually talking about doing like a 13 episode series, which is going to be fun, funny, and teach you how to be more self-reliant.
Cause, uh, I don't know.
The end is nigh?
richard baris
Is that how you want to put it?
Dandelions are delicious.
tim pool
Times are changing.
richard baris
Have you ever had one?
Absolutely.
tim pool
I've never had a dandelion.
richard baris
They're delicious.
My wife, too.
tim pool
I've had dandelion tea.
richard baris
You know those green onions?
Yeah.
You just let them grow.
I don't know what she does.
There's something you've got to do to do it.
It triggers a flower to come up.
Eat that flower.
It's delicious.
ian crossland
The onion flower?
tim pool
We've got to read some Super Chats.
Alright, James Eaton says, what are your thoughts on predictive policing?
The Institute of Justice released a video this morning about it happening in Florida.
Yeah, I saw this story, it said algorithms can predict when crime is going to happen a week in advance.
Yep.
ian crossland
I don't like it.
Machines don't have emotions, and emotions are a lot of the reason of why crimes are committed.
tim pool
But what if a report came out and said there's going to be robberies in these neighborhoods next week, so all they did was send out cops to stop the robberies?
ian crossland
Oh!
Oh, okay.
richard baris
Not quite minority report full blown.
ian crossland
Using it as an advisor is a different story.
tim pool
One day you walk outside and there's like, there's like three cops on the corner and you're like, what's going on?
And they're like, algorithm predicted this would be a hotspot this weekend.
So we're just here to make sure everyone's okay.
Be like, okay, cool.
ian crossland
Yeah.
Be like, if you're driving, your car's like warning, speeding vehicle approaching from the Northwest.
And you're like, okay.
And you stop.
And then 13 seconds later, a car goes flying.
Like I'm okay with that kind of AI.
tim pool
More like you're driving your car and then all of a sudden you're like, I gotta, I gotta go to the bathroom, start speeding.
And then the car goes, I can't let you do that, Ian.
And then the car slows down.
richard baris
But would you be worried about a slippery slope with that?
So at one minute it goes from an advanced version of ComStats, the next minute it does turn into Minority Reward.
ian crossland
Sure.
If the code's private, if it's a proprietary code, which is the first step, you got to make the code open source if you're going to use this kind of stuff.
Cause it can go haywire in secret.
richard baris
Not open source at all.
tim pool
Alright, let's read some more.
We got Beavis McLean says, I don't think you needed the NDAA to have companies do this.
They make money doing it.
They've always done this.
citizens. Is this why we have so much fake news and why Dems immediately moved to dissuade Elon
from buying Twitter? Curious, your take. I don't think you needed the NDAA to have companies do
this. They make money doing it. They've always done this.
It's just worse now and we can see it.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Raymond G. Maga Stanley Jr.
from Maga Month says, the gas is a rising.
The price is so high.
Our oil reserves bound up to dry.
Old man speaks a letter to Psy after next election.
It's Biden bye-bye.
unidentified
Hey, we got a new song, huh?
tim pool
All right.
Sage of Rokuseka says Herbert Kirsten was not a globalist.
He was just a conservationist with some controversial ideas.
I don't know if that's a missing word.
Controversial though popular ideas in those circles in the 70s, 80s.
So people are saying that's who actually built it.
Well, a lot of people don't like those things, man.
All right, let's grab some more superchats.
Jay says, a language that unites people already exists, in theory, music.
I believe that is incorrect.
There's kinds of musics that people don't like.
We had Andrew Klavan on the show, and he told me that rap was not music.
And I said, well of course it isn't.
He's like, no it isn't.
And it's just, I don't understand why you don't think rap is music.
That just doesn't make sense to me.
unidentified
It's a weird hill to die on.
tim pool
Yeah.
I'm not a fan of world music.
Have you guys ever listened to world music?
And like, djembes and stuff.
richard baris
Well, that just goes to prove it though.
Just because you may not like, you may not like rap, it's still music.
Yeah.
tim pool
See, here's the thing.
People say like, I don't like rap and I'm like, are you talking about like gangster rap and like bling bling stuff?
Cause you ever listen to like some real rap, thought provoking stuff, some good stuff from back in the day or even stuff now?
There's good rap.
It exists.
Just gotta get some good music going on, right?
And I did ask him if it was an inside job.
first says the Guidestones. Where did you say Luke went?
ian crossland
That's strange. Luke did mention driving self. And I did ask him if it was an inside
tim pool
job. Hmm. Luke is mysteriously absent. Hmm. Luke Rudkowski. The only way for
him to clear his name is to come back on the show. Luke?
All right.
Friendly Neighborhood Sawyer says, Could the living language mentioned in the Guidestones be some kind of technological telepathy, maybe neural link based?
richard baris
You know, I doubt it.
But there are these, when we read that, I thought of something though, Tim.
There are these people who do believe in this.
Where it's like, maybe the word doesn't even mean the word, it changes, and you're just supposed to know it.
I'm not sure what it's called, but these people also think they're communicating with different entities that aren't on the same wavelength.
But that's what they called it, living something.
And when you read that, I thought about that.
I'm like, has that been that old?
You know, that was erected in 1980.
Have these people been doing this all that time?
I thought that was somewhat new.
It was crazy.
Yeah, I don't know.
All right.
tim pool
We got Hendrix88 says, on June 28th, Alejandro Moreno, the current leader of Mexico's PRI political party, proposed legalizing firearms for civilians following a shooting at a COVID jab site in Puebla, Mexico.
Tweet is at Alito Moreno C. Thought you might want to know research.
Very interesting.
Very interesting.
Take a look.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
We got, what is this?
Tomek says, Tim, I was a breacher for USMC.
The placement for that explosive was amateur.
A pro would have known how to direct the overpressure and enhance it.
unidentified
That's crazy.
tim pool
Yeah, I feel like the blast, they could have taken that whole thing out if they did it right.
richard baris
Maybe the device was right, but the placement was wrong.
tim pool
All right, Eldritchinator says 1.
Genocide 2.
Eugenics 3.
News speak 4.
No religion or tradition 5.
Equity ideology 6.
New world order NWO over sovereignty 7.
No nations 8.
No individual rights 9.
Grandstanding 10.
Humans cancer to be abated.
unidentified
Woof!
tim pool
That's a brutal breakdown of what those stones represent, huh?
unidentified
Yikes.
tim pool
All right, let's grab some more super chats.
L Bossert says, Tim, Crowder will be in West Virginia the weekend of October 8th for a stand-up gig.
Can you try to book him on IRL for that Friday?
Also reach out to YouTuber Meshacko.
He's a gun reviewer who is blind.
Crowder will be in Charleston, which is what, six hours away?
lydia smith
That's correct.
tim pool
Yeah, like six hours away.
unidentified
Also Baltimore.
tim pool
So I guess he's coming this way.
lydia smith
Yeah, he is.
Sure is.
tim pool
All right, Crowder, that means you have to come on the show.
unidentified
Let's do it!
tim pool
That would be awesome.
That would be absolutely amazing to have Crowder on the show.
lydia smith
Yeah, we have Dave on next week.
unidentified
Gotta talk about it.
tim pool
Oh, that's cool.
lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
We're revealing the secrets of our, I guess, booking.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
lydia smith
Secrets.
tim pool
Corishian says, Barris, I'm a huge fan.
I try to watch all your shows.
Have you done a poll on how people in New Mexico feel about the leadership not certifying the election?
richard baris
Uh, thanks, by the way, but, um, no, and it's not because of the topic or anything.
I just, New Mexico, I'm like a bit of a skeptic on New Mexico being battleground.
It's younger.
It's not.
So even though we're seeing this Hispanic vote shift, the population itself is younger.
tim pool
What happened with that?
So it was a democratic, it was a primary and they, the court said, you have to certify and said, no.
richard baris
Yeah, and I wonder why it's... what it is might, I'm sure, grabs attention.
It grabs a lot of people's attention.
There just seems to be different standards, Tim, you know, with how they react.
In Georgia, there was a minor mistake a woman had caught.
I mean, her own ballot wasn't counted in her own precinct, so she got a whole new count.
tim pool
and it changed the result. So random Eskimo says 2024 prediction Biden runs against Trump
mid-September to mid-October Biden has a sad end. Then the D's, the dumb Democrats push out a vote,
a sentiment and emotion. I don't know.
Maybe.
Here's what I was thinking.
There's reports that Trump is going to announce his run early.
I think that would be the smartest possible thing he can do for two reasons.
There's two potential scenarios.
First, Donald Trump announces he's running.
Joe Biden's already said he is.
So Trump can come out and be like, I am running against Joe Biden.
Joe Biden has two options.
Quit because he's too old or Actually go up against Trump.
If Joe Biden quits, then Trump's going to be like, I already beat Biden.
He's quitting.
He's bailing out.
Can you trust the Democrats to have the strength to lead this nation?
Joe Biden can stay in the race with all his abysmal failures and ratings, never going to happen.
Or Trump can hope that he's running before anything bad happens to Biden because Biden's already well past his average life expectancy.
If Biden comes to a peaceful end as an old man, as his age could predict, Donald Trump can just be like, it's a very sad day.
It's very sad.
Joe was many things.
Who's going to run?
No matter what happens, it looks really, really bad for Democrats.
ian crossland
Do you think there's any chance Trump will run not as a Republican?
tim pool
No, he's a Republican.
richard baris
Yeah, and not this time.
If there was some real big split in the Republican Party, which could have, there was a moment there that could have happened, then maybe we would have went down that road, but he should announce early.
And two, you scare everybody else away.
Yeah.
Any other Republican.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Generally Irritable says, instead of talking that national divorce nonsense, help me restore federalism.
I'm running for the lone congressional seat in Vermont, and I am a constitutional conservative.
Reddickforcongress.com.
lydia smith
That is James Lindsay's friend.
Oh, cool.
He texted me and told me that she was going to super chat in.
I was like, that is awesome.
Oh, OK.
tim pool
Well, there you go.
unidentified
It's Reddickforcongress.com.
tim pool
We'll take a look at that.
ian crossland
We're primed for another James Lindsay visit.
tim pool
Yeah, well yeah, James, come on.
unidentified
Get on up.
tim pool
James Rogers says, I'm 32, classical liberal, and I am ashamed to inform you that I will be voting Republican this upcoming election.
Even if it's Trump.
Giving our gas away did it.
I'm a sailor and I love my country.
That's just, I don't understand how anyone could be looking at the gas and then be like, oh yeah, Biden took our strategic reserves and exported 5 million barrels.
It's not like 5 million's, you know, a whole lot.
lydia smith
Still, such an insult.
tim pool
But it's like, it's like a little bit more than 1% of our reserves.
That's kind of crazy.
richard baris
It's a nice slap.
It's a nice laugh.
tim pool
It's like he's laughing at you as he does it.
That blew my mind.
ian crossland
I looked for the story.
I didn't see anything from ABC, NBC, CBS on it.
richard baris
Of course.
ian crossland
Not anything.
tim pool
There's a bunch of outlets.
ian crossland
It's a New York Post article.
New York Post is pretty sent.
And Washington Times.
tim pool
And TimGuest.com.
ian crossland
But I mean, the liberal economic orders media apparatus doesn't seem to be explaining what's going on.
richard baris
They're ignoring that one.
tim pool
That's right.
Someone is contesting.
ian crossland
I also see 5 million barrels and 50 million barrels.
Which is it?
5 or 50?
unidentified
5.
tim pool
He exported 50?
ian crossland
No, that's an old story.
Okay, it was 5.
tim pool
It's even worse.
lydia smith
It's like, that's unacceptable.
tim pool
Omega Resetsu says, Tim, if she was Gen Z, she looks too old for being 17.
The first year of Gen Z births was 2005.
That's, I believe it's not correct.
lydia smith
I don't think that's true.
tim pool
Yeah, we've talked about it quite a bit.
unidentified
It's like 1996.
tim pool
Yeah.
And there's, um, I think the, the youngest millennials right now are 26 or 27.
lydia smith
Yeah, we're aging up.
tim pool
Yeah, it's the youngest Millennials.
And then anything younger than that is considered Gen Z. But a lot of people have different opinions on when generations start.
richard baris
Yeah, yeah.
I'm on the line where it'd be Z or X. How old are you?
Right?
40.
Right, so.
tim pool
Oh, right, right, right.
richard baris
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
The mixture.
ian crossland
Is it a Generation Y?
tim pool
No, Generation Y is Millennial.
Yeah.
Millennials are also called Echo Boomers.
That sounds way cooler.
lydia smith
Echo Boomer.
unidentified
Yeah, it's way cooler.
tim pool
Do you even watch anime?
HunterKiller86 says it has to do with the petrodollar.
Notice how the euro and pound has gone down since February, but the USD stays the same.
It's all the petrodollar scam.
I would not be surprised, my friends.
Adam Townsend says, I heard the oil exported could have been sour crude, but our processing plants handle sweet crude.
Due to all of the fracking in recent history, we can't process sour efficiently any longer.
It could be, and I will point this out too.
You got to be careful about some of these stories about, you know, Biden canceled an oil lease.
And then everyone's like, why did he do that?
And then you find out like a court ordered it.
So it's not like he chose to do it.
And this could be due to sour crude or whatever.
But I'm just going to pause and say, I will not give them the benefit of the doubt.
If they don't come out and explain it, and even if they did, I probably still wouldn't trust them.
This dude has done so much to tank this country, and anybody who's saying otherwise is just lying to themselves.
At the very least, you can say the man is incompetent and is fumbling around.
Worst case scenario is it looks like it's on purpose, but there is no reasonable circumstance where Biden is just, you know, doing all these good things that just aren't helping.
That would be crazy to me.
Chris Fendley says, do the pollsters consider false answers from people trying to mess with the poll accuracy?
richard baris
Yeah, we do try that.
Well, some of us do.
And that's why it's important, like when I mocked on YouGov before saying they're not even a voter, a voter file source panel.
Because you have no other attributes to collect against these people.
If you know an 18 to 24 year old African American girl from, you know, inner Philadelphia, told you she's going to vote Republican, she's lying.
You know that, but if there are other data attributes that are on that file and you can actually prove that and be confident, then you can, it's not clean data and you could get rid of it.
I try to lean towards believing people though, I do, because, and the reason why, you may miss and change their mind.
It's possible.
tim pool
Right on.
Ed Abel says, or Abel says, Tim, are you working on an app for Xbox slash Smart TV?
Yes, here's the challenge.
It takes a lot of time and money.
Seriously.
So, we've been working, we're trying to, we can only grow as fast as we can grow.
Money isn't necessarily the answer, it's people.
We want to do our mobile apps, obviously.
iPhones, people usually do iPhone first, because you build an iPhone app, it basically works for all the iPhone platforms, but you build Android, you got all these different Android platforms, you gotta make like 20, 30 different versions of the app.
Then if you want to do smart TVs, you gotta get approval from the TVs, so I think that may be why Daily Wire is like Apple, Roku, and Chrome, but I don't know if they're on smart TVs, it may be because you have to get approved by them.
That's what we're aiming for.
And so we're going to be doing a bunch of shows that are just going to appear on TimCast.com so that if you're a member, you'll get a bigger and bigger library because we want to displace things like Netflix and Disney Plus because they produce awful garbage that's bad for you and your family and your kids.
And we want to create things that are just kind of politically neutral.
And if there is a message, it'll be like freedom and responsibility and not much more than that.
We're also we've got some kids shows in the pipeline.
Obviously, Chicken City, if you've seen it, is very family-friendly, and we have a bunch of stuff in the pipeline.
We're not as big as The Daily Wire, but we will be.
Maybe by next year, we'll have like three or four shows on the website.
With your support by becoming a member at TimCast.com, we'll do it faster.
The real issue is finding good people.
And it is money.
I mean, obviously, we can only hire so many people, and the more we can hire, the faster we can move out of the directions.
The documentaries are expensive.
People need to understand this.
Documentaries can cost between $100,000 and $500,000 if you want to do it well.
I wonder how much Daily Wire put into What Is A Woman, because I've got to imagine it was probably several hundred thousand dollars to produce that, because it was really well done.
But yeah, support our work if you want to help.
Let's read some more Super Chats.
All right, Rando Bunderson says, doesn't matter if Michelle is as good as lefties think she is.
She ruined my school lunches.
It's a no for me.
richard baris
What did she do?
That was very, uh, she made them healthy.
And I only know this, uh, because I'm a family member.
Um, yeah, she basically took what would be tasty and made it like cardboard.
unidentified
Well... I mean, they're still garbage, anyway.
richard baris
Look, it depends where you are, really.
You know, a state like North Carolina, I find those to be underwhelming, and they're still trying to, you know, to meet her guidelines.
Yet in Florida, they did, and they were delicious.
tim pool
I don't understand sugar, to be completely honest.
You know, like, so, the sugar that I was mostly eating when I was eating was grains.
And so I cut out the rice and the bread.
But I love fat.
Right?
Avocados, sour cream, cheese, bacon grease just poured all over everything.
It's just, I like it better.
I could take a bowl of sour cream and just spoon it, it's so good.
I don't understand the sugary stuff like cakes either.
I don't like cake.
Do you like cake?
unidentified
Of course I like cake.
You don't like yourself a good molten lava cake?
tim pool
Nope, not a fan.
I would rather have an ice cream or something.
unidentified
That is better than cake.
tim pool
Yeah, cake, I just... I mean, cake is kind of fatty, but I'm just not a fan of that stuff.
unidentified
You gotta mix the fats and the sugars together.
richard baris
I don't like sweet.
Sugar is the best.
ian crossland
You gotta be accurate about what kind of... Because glucose is super important.
It's a sugar.
It's sugar.
It's a simple sugar.
Everyone needs it.
But the sugar industry is like, yeah, it's just call everything sugar.
No, no, no.
Your sucrose that you're pushing on people is poison.
richard baris
It's totally different.
tim pool
Sucrose.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Fructose is bad.
It's funny when people say, like, fruit is good for you.
It's got fructose in it.
It's fruit sugar.
And I'm like, bro, have you ever read about fructose?
Your body can't use it.
It's got to be processed in the liver.
It's very intensive.
ian crossland
Yeah, without the fiber of the fruit.
So when they make fruit juice, you get the still the fructose, but without the fiber of the fruit, it goes right into the liver like sucrose, converts it into fat.
And it's this refinement process.
I don't know a lot about due to high fructose corn syrup.
When you read, you go to Dow, the company Dow, the chemical production company, they make that stuff in vats and they use like a resin, like I think it's arsenic resin.
Don't quote me on this and see if you can find How to make high fructose.
And if you can, send it to me on Twitter because I want to go deep.
It was buried in the Dow Industrial website when I was looking for a reason.
richard baris
No doubt.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's disgusting.
And then they don't have to put the cleaning agent in the ingredients because it's used as a cleaning agent, like the arsenic or whatever it is.
tim pool
All right, we got Loki Tomes says, Hey Tim.
Hey Timcast, I'm a 23 year old OTR truck driver.
I've worked for the same company for two and a half years, but last night the company went under.
I'm friendly with the owner and asked what happened.
He said lack of drivers, low priced loads and high gas prices bankrupted him.
I guess I'm going to use this as an excuse to move to Florida.
Thanks for the shows.
Appreciate the very large super chat.
Cletus Christ says, Zimmerman didn't follow Martin.
He was walking to the cross street in the apartment complex as instructed by dispatch, and encountered Martin on the way.
Watched the trial.
This was my red pill moment.
Crazy.
So much of it's lies.
Man.
The Ahmaud Arbery case.
Lie.
529 insurrection.
Remember that one?
richard baris
Yeah.
unidentified
529.
tim pool
I'm aware.
The insurrection.
ian crossland
I believe they burned a church.
tim pool
They tried to torch St.
John's Church.
They tried raiding, assaulting the White House, setting fire to a guard post.
richard baris
And the media mocked him for coming out there with Bill Barr.
tim pool
They mocked Trump for being forced into an emergency bunker during an insurrection.
Terrifying.
I mean literally terrifying if you think about it.
unidentified
And just this morning I saw someone on the street with a sign that's like, only we can stop more Trump coup attempts.
What?
Like, your brain is just so poisoned.
Yeah.
It's just sad.
Like, come back to reality.
tim pool
1776's Life says, Tim, you've given plenty of warnings about food shortages.
Why don't you do a complete podcast dedicated to gardening, hunting, and food preservation?
We're gonna do a show that has all of that.
So if you're a member at Timcast, we are hoping to actually get it started soon.
You gotta understand, too, it's not super difficult to do something like that.
We got all these right-wing nutjobs who live up on the mountain in West Virginia, and we say that endearingly.
They call themselves that.
Oh, they know everything.
They're like, here's what, like, they live out here.
They're like, here's what you do.
We got raccoon problem.
Here's how you take care of your trash.
Chickens.
Oh, we can tell you how to do the chickens.
richard baris
I think it's fair to call me a prepper.
unidentified
Oh, nice.
richard baris
Yeah, I think it's fair to call me a prepper.
tim pool
I don't think so.
ian crossland
Tell me about your prep.
tim pool
I don't think it's fair.
richard baris
Crazy food.
I got out back eventually the goal.
is to just be able to, you know, at least vegetables, um, and certain, you know, well,
I mean, if you call tomatoes a fruit, I mean, but, um, you know, to be able to, to have something
throughout each season to put right to the table and I have the space for it. At least we think we
unidentified
do. People have always done this.
It's so funny that prepper is a derogatory term now.
Like, oh, you prepare things?
tim pool
What's wrong with you, Psycho?
richard baris
We collect the water, you know, with the barrels.
We do have food, though, Tim, like the food that lasts like 30 years.
tim pool
Oh, we got tons of it.
ian crossland
Do you jar and can food?
richard baris
You know what?
We did for a while until she found an alternative, which is, you know, we're working on that now.
tim pool
Is that public?
unidentified
Disclosable?
ian crossland
Because I'm interested.
richard baris
You know, we'll see if it works first.
ian crossland
Thank you for listening.
tim pool
We made jams last year with the wineberries.
richard baris
Yeah.
tim pool
Wineberries are crazy in here.
So it's wineberry season.
It's amazing.
When I'm coming up, so I ride my electric motorcycle to come here.
We just stop along the edge and just eat.
I think I had maybe like 50 of them.
They're just so good.
The wild raspberries.
ian crossland
I'm picturing you with a net connected to your bike and you can just like skate the tree.
tim pool
But people gotta eat them because they go bad and they fall off and then that's how they're reduced.
ian crossland
We need to preserve, that's the key.
tim pool
So we made preserves last year, it was amazing.
I made lemon wineberry and wineberry jam and we saved them for months and it was amazing.
richard baris
They last a long time, incredible.
tim pool
With mulberries too, the mulberries are all over the place.
You gotta save the mulberries.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Because you walk up to the tree and you shake it.
We put a tarp under the tree.
You do one big shake and you've got like five pounds of mulberries.
That's a good idea.
A tarp?
richard baris
That's a good idea.
tim pool
Yeah.
richard baris
I didn't even think of that.
tim pool
Yeah, we took a sheet.
We laid it down under a tree and we grabbed the branch and just shook it.
And then we had a bowl.
And then we blended it up with some lemon juice and some sugar and boiled it down and made jam and sealed it up, put it on the shelf.
And then we have pawpaws in October.
So, uh, right at the beginning of October, it's just an endless stream of pawpaw.
ian crossland
I should say, I-I bury hard on sugar, because it's the overeating of sugar that's the problem.
A small dose of sugar like that can keep you alive for a long time.
unidentified
Alright.
ian crossland
So, there's value to it.
tim pool
Let's grab a couple more Super Chats before we go to that Members Only show.
Alright, let's see.
unidentified
Maybe!
tim pool
I don't know.
Flimmers says, I heard the Guidestone destroyed was the side with Russian and Chinese writing.
The intention was possibly not to destroy the whole monument, but send a political message.
Maybe.
richard baris
I don't know.
That's interesting.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Thrawn Fett says, build a new Georgia Guidestones and just put the Constitution on a granite
No one knows who made it, so no copyright.
ian crossland
Amen.
tim pool
And great marking for Tim Kest.
I'm down.
Can we do that?
ian crossland
Yes, we can.
unidentified
Let's do it.
tim pool
Let's legit do that.
ian crossland
That'd be cool.
tim pool
How many pages of the Constitution?
It's not that big, right?
lydia smith
Doesn't look very long.
ian crossland
Seven.
We're talking about the first, you know, the Bill of Rights, the Articles?
tim pool
Well, the Constitution plus the Bill of Rights.
Oh, we'll do all the amendments, we gotta do it.
And we'll, like, legit, let's do it.
If it's prohibitively expensive, I won't, but if we can get that done and put it up at Freedomistan, big granite slabs, the Constitution all written out, I'm so down for that.
ian crossland
I want to make it interactable for kids somehow, with like a magnifying glass that can slide around on it.
tim pool
Well, that's a bit more complicated.
unidentified
We can add another for the Ten Commandments.
tim pool
Well, you can do all that.
That's all you.
If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, tell your friends about the show if you really do like it because that's... how we've gotten to this point has been all word of mouth.
We've only recently started doing more marketing and we're gonna do a lot more as we expand.
We need your support at TimCast.com because we're gonna start producing a bunch of shows.
So let me tell you guys about Tales from the Inverted World.
The new season is out.
It is, I think this season, each episode is like 22 minutes long.
Shane Cashman went down to Georgia and investigated the lost Confederate gold, UFOs, all the weird stuff that came along with it, witches, and, you know, the difficulty is how do we maintain a show like that?
We have to produce something and we have to, you know, sell it.
So, what we're going to be doing is, second episode will come up free, the first episodes will be free, and then this show will be a TimCast.com exclusive, because we want to start Trying to grow the business and we can't just make stuff that's expensive for free so considering the production quality and the cost I was like Let's just have this be a show for members and try and build up more members by doing more awesome shows like this But we will be launching another show with Shane Cashman.
It's like Hunter S Thompson meets the X-Files.
He's going to be doing conversations on More regularly regularly occurring News as opposed to just the deeper investigation, so we'll have the deeper investigation show Which is seasonal which could be I think it's like 13 episodes plus the weekly conversational show that's 52 episodes And then we're actually building a new set at our haunted house location Which is an old house from the 1800s where he's going to be filming that new show, so I'm really excited for all this So your support will help make that happen plus.
We're working on the survival show where we do educational breakdowns on What it's like living out in the middle of nowhere, how to get water, how to clean water, how to grow food, all that good stuff.
So support us at TimCast.com, smash the like button, follow us at TimCast IRL, and you can follow me at TimCast.
The People's Pundit!
Do you want to shout anything out?
richard baris
Yeah, I mean, people can follow me on peoplespundit.locals.com.
That's the community, the Locals community.
But of course, too.
You know what, if you really want to check it out, bigdatapoll.com.
Scroll to the down and the bottom and you'll see all the trackers we do for the Public Polling Project.
And I'll tell you what, if you follow polls, if you want to know what RealClearPolitics is going to say two weeks or a month from now, follow us at the Public Polling Project because we lead them.
It's been like this for almost two years now.
The point of it is to just be transparent.
And I think we can get more trust back in this industry if we're just a little bit more open about how we do things.
And that's the entire goal of that project.
So yeah, check it out at bigdatapult.com at the bottom.
And then Locals Community is the best place where I aggregate everything.
tim pool
Right on!
unidentified
If you want to see me more often, you can find me on Instagram or WeChat at Closer Kitty, and also go subscribe to Pop Culture Crisis on YouTube.
We go live every Monday through Friday at 3 p.m.
Eastern Time and noon Pacific Time, so come join us.
This week is a little bit different.
We're posting a pre-recorded episode on Friday.
ian crossland
You guys follow me at iancrossland.net.
Get in touch with me on social media, YouTube, Twitter, Mines, Facebook, Instagram, Twitch.
It goes on and on.
Anywhere you can think to find someone on social media, you'll probably find me there.
Rich Barris, great to see you, man.
richard baris
You as well.
Good conversation.
Very good.
unidentified
I like it.
richard baris
Yeah.
ian crossland
It's special.
richard baris
Indeed.
tim pool
Thanks a lot, dude.
ian crossland
See you later.
richard baris
My pleasure.
lydia smith
I just want to read one last super chat.
It said, Tim, do me a favor.
Tell Chris he did a good job yesterday.
That's from Audrey.
Absolutely.
Uh, Andrew, sorry.
And I have to say thank you very much, Chris, for letting me take a day just to try not to die.
I really appreciated it.
I was glad to not have to worry about coming in and, um, being sick on the show.
Um, so yes, very much.
Thank you, Chris, for doing that for me.
You guys can follow me on twitterandminds.com at sarahpatchlitz as well as sarahpatchlitz.me.
tim pool
We will see all of you at timcast.com for that members-only show coming up at 11 p.m.
Thanks for hanging out.
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