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Sunday Uncensored: Greg Ellis Member Podcast: Crew SLAMS Naked Men Twerking In Front Of Children At LGBT Pride Event

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ian crossland
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tim pool
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We got such fucked up shit to talk about, holy shit.
But we've got a couple videos we want to show you, but we were just talking, Greg was mentioning a friend.
Do you want to talk about this?
greg ellis
We can, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, the Trump derangement syndrome.
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, look, you know... Just tell the story real quick.
greg ellis
Yeah, so, you know, the speech, what was the very fine... Very fine people hoax.
Very fine people hoax, okay.
So, I looked into it, you know, because I was really curious, because at the time...
tim pool
They claimed Donald Trump said that Nazis were very fine people, which he didn't do.
greg ellis
So I took, I actually got the speech, and it was a friend of mine in Hollywood, and
I challenged him.
I said, read it through.
And he tried.
He got a couple of sentences in, and then a couple, he stopped, and then he tried again,
and he, and literally the third time through, he just, I think it was a realization, and
the shame was so great.
He just literally turned and walked out of the door.
ian crossland
Couldn't believe it.
Oh, Brandon Strock said the exact same thing.
This was the impetus for his walk-away movement, is because of that speech.
But can you explain?
seamus coughlin
No, no, no, it was the disabled reporter lie.
ian crossland
Oh, you're right!
tim pool
Yeah, he said that.
Someone sent him a video and he was like, this is bullshit right-wing propaganda.
I'm not gonna watch this.
And then he said, he thought to himself, you know what?
I'll watch it so I can prove how they're wrong and tell her she's wrong.
And then he watched it and realized, oh shit, they lied about Trump.
ian crossland
So what was the very fun people speech about?
seamus coughlin
Do you think he's going to use it as his monologue for his next audition?
tim pool
Donald Trump was talking about Charlottesville and he said, there was a lot of fighting and they're like, what about the right-wing bring weapons?
And he goes, the left brought weapons too.
Those people wearing all black.
Look, They were fine people out there that were protesting.
Some people didn't want the statue removed.
They were very fine people on both sides.
And I am not talking about the neo-Nazis or the white supremacists because they should be condemned totally.
But there were people there who thought it was wrong to tear down the statue.
And they cut that out and Joe Biden launched his campaign off that.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, of Charlottesville.
tim pool
So, let me show you now.
Don't pull up the video yet, because I'm going to be nice to all of you and give you a very stern warning.
You're probably going to barf.
You might punch your monitor.
So you've been warned.
What you're going to see is depravity, child grooming, and in public, and it's legal, you've been trigger warned.
We here at TimCast believe in trigger warnings.
lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
Here's the video.
So here's an old man.
It's an awful twerk, let's be real.
He's struggling to twerk.
And there are little girls and children standing around watching this beer-bellied old man.
He's literally twerking at a little girl.
Watch this.
The little girl is standing there watching him the whole time.
And then the woman walks up and says, wave to him.
You see this woman?
She goes to the little girl and says, wave to him.
Wave to the old man in tighty-whitey who's twerking in the street.
Watch this again.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Here's the old man twerking.
He walks.
You can see the little girl in frame now staring at him.
And this black woman walks over, points, and waves.
And the little girl then waves.
And she tells her again, wave to him.
These pedophile groomers want these children watching this.
She wanted that little girl to see it and to let her know.
Now, let me show you this.
ian crossland
It's confirmed.
You saw his dick dangling in the diaper.
Not the dick itself, but the diaper pack.
lydia smith
I saw the unedited version.
It was horrible.
ian crossland
What's this one?
lydia smith
He's just completely naked.
ian crossland
Okay, that's blurred, though, for the sake of...
lydia smith
For our sake, not for the kids' sake.
greg ellis
Doesn't he have something covering his... No.
tim pool
No, he doesn't.
lydia smith
He doesn't.
tim pool
I'm not gonna... He's totally naked.
The uncensored video was posted by a couple people.
I'm not gonna put it here.
This is a guy... Now, I don't know.
Can you see kids in this one?
I'm not sure if I saw kids in this one.
I see, you know, adults.
But either way, this guy is wearing a Bugs Bunny mask with carrots and gloves, and he's jumping up and down totally naked.
lydia smith
I don't see any kids.
tim pool
I don't see any kids.
lydia smith
Good, at least.
tim pool
Now, the other one was the bad one where the little girl is there and the black woman's like, wave to him!
Wave to him!
Look at the man in his underwear!
This one is a guy clearly breaking the law, and they're all laughing and cheering and celebrating it.
unidentified
Also, this is a public street.
seamus coughlin
Children could see it.
This guy's out in public naked.
There's a reason there are laws against that.
tim pool
This is what pride has always been as far as I've known.
And the people who know what it is won't come out and tell people who don't.
I've never had an experience where someone who was aware of this and liked it went to a suburban mother or family and said, don't have your kids come to this because this thing's sad.
I've never seen that.
I've only ever said, yeah, come to pride.
unidentified
It's so great.
tim pool
You'll love it.
I'll bring your kids.
ian crossland
This is what it is. And the parent is like, look kid, this is look how how proud they are. Look
how open they are. Look at this. And the kids getting fucking their mind warped by male obese
nudity. And they're just picturing the ass crack of that guy and the fucking scrotum nasty as shit.
Like that'll stick with your mind for your entire fucking life, man. Why are we showing these videos?
tim pool
Show these videos to suburban mothers.
If you're a Republican and you want to win, save these videos.
seamus coughlin
Make this your campaign video.
unidentified
That's it.
seamus coughlin
I'm serious.
This is your campaign video.
That's it.
Every Republican needs to show this.
tim pool
The Bugs Bunny guy.
We're running against this.
If you vote for the Democrat, this is what they're in favor of.
seamus coughlin
And the guy also, the guy who was doing his disgusting dance in front of a child.
ian crossland
Technically, as a parent, you're allowed to show your kid porn, right?
unidentified
I don't think so.
ian crossland
As far as I know?
tim pool
I don't think so.
seamus coughlin
I think that's illegal.
tim pool
Yeah, I don't know.
It depends, but yeah, you can't.
Exposing children to overt sexual material like that, I'm pretty sure is illegal.
ian crossland
Our rated movies are okay if the parent says it's okay.
tim pool
Right.
Porn is like X, rated X. Oh, X rated.
Yeah, X rated.
I don't think you can show kids that stuff.
ian crossland
But like even in their own house?
tim pool
Yeah, I'm pretty sure you can't do that.
I'm pretty sure if you expose a child to that kind of material, it's illegal.
I mean, look, there's a line, you know, kids want to teach their, parents want to teach their kids about sex ed.
You don't do it by showing them this or hardcore porn.
So how you deal with that, this is grooming.
This one, look, there's no kids around, fine, but there could be, and it's public, and what he's doing is illegal.
It's not public.
The other one is just fucking... The little girl watching and the lady pointing it out.
There's a bunch of little girls, actually.
You can see all the children.
seamus coughlin
Well, and what message does this send?
Hey, look, see?
The weird old pervert man in his underwear in the street?
That's good!
You should like that.
Don't be afraid of people like that.
tim pool
That's a good thing.
lydia smith
Here's the mayor.
tim pool
Here's the Minneapolis mayor going along with it.
lydia smith
That's what that is.
greg ellis
That's the mayor?
lydia smith
Yeah, Jacob Fry.
In his short shorts, good for him.
unidentified
Hm.
Hm.
What the?
ian crossland
Well, to each their own, except this isn't just to each their own, this is to the whole community.
tim pool
This is what Nazi Germany is, okay?
I'm not saying these people want to kill the Jews, I'm saying stupid people of no moral or mental fortitude sit by watching depraved things happen and laugh and smile and say whatever the crowd wants.
See, Hitler was able to do what he did because zombies marched along with fervent zealotry.
And there's that one famous photo of the guy refusing to do the salute.
One guy out of a whole crowd.
Thankfully, because of the internet, those of us who would refuse are able to find each other, stand up and push back against this stuff.
But we are on track.
Those flags in the UK, was it London?
greg ellis
Yeah, I believe so, yeah.
tim pool
That's an identitarian flag.
It's an identitarian flag.
Policy and government based on identity.
And we know where that goes.
Not to mention they're like, you know, socialists or whatever, so that's gonna be fun.
ian crossland
And that's like with the C-16, the bill in Canada, where they were, uh, what is it, forced speech laws.
greg ellis
Pronouns.
ian crossland
Yeah, Jordan Peterson went crazy on this.
It really brought him the prominence of speaking out against it, because they were saying if you don't call someone by their preferred pronoun, you could be considered illegal.
greg ellis
This isn't pride.
tim pool
Actually, maybe it is pride.
But here's a guy.
With, I'm assuming it's a guy, a giant penis on his head.
ian crossland
Oh, I've seen this.
tim pool
Pushing it between the vagina between his legs, the big fake costume.
These are not pride events.
This is not about lesbian, gay, trans, or bisexual.
It's not about love.
It's not about marriage.
It is about debauchery, lasciviousness.
ian crossland
It's kind of gory.
Like, is that a definition of gore?
tim pool
I don't know.
seamus coughlin
No, it's just usually explicit.
lydia smith
It's obscene.
It's obscenity.
It's profanity.
This is profane.
This is worse than the common person would usually say.
tim pool
Lady tells the child to wave.
unidentified
Disgusting.
tim pool
This is where we are today.
unidentified
Disgusting.
tim pool
But people don't understand, this has been going on for a long time.
seamus coughlin
Like, does she tell the kid to take candy from strangers too?
lydia smith
Apparently.
seamus coughlin
Sick.
tim pool
Hop in the van.
The panel van.
Post-millennial.
Here we go.
A group of naked people march in Toronto Pride, which has many children in attendance.
One is pulling a car with a sign that says, body acceptance, you can be naked too.
unidentified
What?
lydia smith
Telling kids they can be naked too?
tim pool
Pride events allow people to just blatantly break the law.
And this is what I was talking about with Civil War.
Someone superchatted saying the Civil War will be caused not by abortion, but by this.
Because these people are given space to break the law and get away with it, then they fly their flag.
And eventually someone's gonna be like, keep this motherfucker away from my kid.
Now what would happen if that Bugs Bunny guy The whole media would say he was a terrorist, it was a hate crime, how dare he hurt that poor innocent man.
seamus coughlin
This is because of right-wing bigots on the internet who need to be deplatformed.
That is exactly what would happen.
And the police would almost certainly end up arresting the guy who hit him for being obscene in front of his child, for assaulting his child.
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ian crossland
Bye.
They, for some reason, it's like, I don't know.
Do you think the CCP?
seamus coughlin
I actually think the media outlets are obsessed with trying to expose children to sexual content.
Why?
Everything in the public eye over the past several decades has become increasingly sexualized, and they know children are going to watch that stuff.
They know.
ian crossland
Oh.
seamus coughlin
And then they try to introduce more and more of this stuff into children's entertainment.
greg ellis
I'm still a little bit in shock at watching some of that, because I, you know, I think back to the Pride marches that I attended.
It was about colorful costumes and, you know, expressions of, you know, over-the-topness, let's call it.
tim pool
I don't know.
When was this and where were you?
Because I've never seen that before.
greg ellis
Yeah, I mean, that's been my experience.
When was it?
Eight, ten years ago, maybe?
tim pool
In Chicago in 1999, they danced around naked.
ian crossland
Chicago's notoriously the nakedest.
It's like the, I think, well, like you were talking about West Hollywood.
tim pool
When I was in Los Angeles, a bunch of women were not part of the event, were just running up to people telling them to get naked and they're running around naked.
We host not a bunch of families, though.
I don't know if this might have been in West Hollywood.
No, I think this was in Long Beach.
Just everywhere I've ever been at any Pride event, it's always been this way.
And I've always asked people, I'm like, is this about love?
And they get so mad when you ask.
And I'm like, I'm not mad.
I'm just mad.
Is this a sex event, like an orgy thing?
Or is it like a marriage thing?
And they'd be like, it's about love.
And I'd be like, well, I'm just asking because people here are like fake jerking each other off and like, you know, like they're naked.
You know what I mean?
greg ellis
Mmm, liberation?
seamus coughlin
Also, if you love someone, you don't want them exposing themselves nude to everybody.
lydia smith
Right.
ian crossland
Well, it depends on who you are.
Some people do.
seamus coughlin
But that's not love.
They don't really love them.
tim pool
Looking at these events, it's not about LGBT issues.
Because that was a penis going into a vagina.
That was just sex.
Literally just a costume of sex.
These are just people who are going out and they're like, pride, yeah, but it's an excuse to engage in debauchery.
ian crossland
It's like a pushback against the puritanical essence of our society.
seamus coughlin
What puritanical essence?
I don't see any puritanical essence in our society, man.
unidentified
It's you.
ian crossland
You're the puritan.
tim pool
There's not.
I mean, maybe there was 40, 50 years ago, but right now it is just excess.
Look, I look at this and it is pride.
It is the worst element.
The sin of pride.
The people who are like, look at me, I can do whatever I want.
There's a video of a man walking up to a cop.
And shoving his ass on the cop and twerking.
And I'm like, dude, if you did it to me, I would kick you.
ian crossland
That's assault.
unidentified
It is.
tim pool
And the cop just keeps moving away.
He's like, get away from me, dude.
And everyone's laughing as the guy puts his ass up to the cop and starts twerking at him.
And I'm like, bro, get hit.
Don't fucking come up to me and do that shit.
You're attacking me.
seamus coughlin
Weird perverts literally bully cops and the cops can't do anything because they know they'll get in trouble.
Pedophiles.
That's where we are.
tim pool
Twerk in front of children and other pedophiles tell the little girl to watch.
It's fucking psychotic.
ian crossland
Were you going to say something about the Puritanists?
greg ellis
No, I was actually, it just brought up, I think there was a show called Drag Kids and then recently I saw, I think it was in the UK maybe, there were, I think it was transvest, transsexuals, I'm going to get in trouble again because I'm going to use the wrong flipping words.
the linguistic manipulation of the...
seamus coughlin
Get your dictionary!
greg ellis
Oh, what's it called again?
Anyway, somebody dressed in drag, let's put it that way, and encouraging the kids, there were kids there,
to put dollars and pounds or whatever money in the...
like a strip club.
Oh, I saw.
tim pool
They have children doing that stripping.
greg ellis
Right, and that was where I looked at it, because I'm pretty liberal.
I looked at that and went, hang on a minute.
That... whoa.
What is going on there?
unidentified
And there's no outrage about it.
tim pool
What about a little boy, an 11-year-old, taking his clothes off on stage in a gay bar for adult gay men as they give him tips as he does it?
Desmond is amazing.
He's on video doing it.
seamus coughlin
Should all be in jail.
Every single one of those.
Disgusting.
tim pool
You've not seen that Desmond is amazing?
greg ellis
And people are watching this and subscribing to this?
On which channel?
tim pool
Like E!
and stuff like that.
greg ellis
Grief.
ian crossland
Yes.
unidentified
Down.
Up.
Down.
Up.
Down.
greg ellis
Don't.
tim pool
Oh, he's already taking his clothes off.
It's a part of his- I can't.
unidentified
I can't.
ian crossland
Shoutout to No Doubt.
tim pool
So he's- watch, now he takes his clothes off.
Dressed like a woman.
A little boy.
And adult gay men are handing him money.
ian crossland
Are you- you know they're gay?
tim pool
It's a gay bar.
It's a gay bar, 21 and up.
There we go.
Oh, more money for the little boy dressed like a girl.
And he slowly takes off more and more clothes.
You can see the clothes laying there on the ground as he dances and they give him money.
What- what- this little boy doesn't know what he's doing.
He doesn't know that these guys are getting off on this.
His mom put him there because it makes her money.
She goes after anybody who- who- she- she- she sues them.
It's not the only- only one.
So...
This is literally stripping.
A strip performance.
ian crossland
The song is I'm Just a Girl with a little boy on stage dressed as a girl.
tim pool
And that kid's what, 11?
unidentified
11.
tim pool
Well, he's a teenager now.
Here's another one.
Courtney Love.
You see how he comes out wearing this costume?
Throughout the event, he slowly starts stripping the clothes off.
Throwing them on the ground.
unidentified
So he was 11 in 2018.
tim pool
I'm curious what he thinks when he's older.
unidentified
Yeah, I'm really serious.
ian crossland
Yeah, I would love to interview him.
lydia smith
Yeah, I'm really serious.
tim pool
Well, Natalie's 18.
lydia smith
So mad.
ian crossland
OK.
tim pool
Collecting tips, taking your clothes off.
I'm going to tell you one of these kids, one of these days is going to put a bullet in someone's head.
Not kidding.
So there's also a video of him imitating doing a bump of coke or something like that.
Talking about doing ketamine and shit.
lydia smith
I was watching a mother at a school board meeting screaming at a teacher who had transed her daughter.
And I was thinking, you know what?
One of these days we're going to do that to the wrong person's kid and it is not going to end well.
seamus coughlin
Well, and you know, the left always throws their hands and they go, we're so scared, we're so terrified.
The right makes us feel frightened.
These, these young single white men are terrifying.
You think young single white men are scary?
Screw with the mother's children.
Tell me who's scary.
Something's going to happen to some of these people, dude.
You keep pulling shit like that, people are going to get hurt.
That's instinct.
lydia smith
Exactly.
tim pool
That is instinct.
seamus coughlin
These kids are going to grow up.
tim pool
You start messing with people's kids, these kids are going to grow up.
Yeah.
You guys ever see Sixth Sense with Bruce Willis?
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
You know that opening scene where the guy's in his underwear in the bathroom and he's like, he's got the gun and then he shoots.
seamus coughlin
Yes.
tim pool
We're going to see a lot of that.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
Yep.
greg ellis
I think we're also going to see a lot of lawsuits in 10, 15, 20 years time for all these medical procedures.
unidentified
Top surgeries on little girls?
greg ellis
On 11, 12, I mean the Tavistock Clinic in the UK.
tim pool
Cutting off little girls' breasts for profit because they're going through puberty and they're scared.
greg ellis
What was it, detransition?
I had Buck Angel on my show recently and Debbie Hayden, and they were talking about detransitioning.
tim pool
We had a detransitioner on the show, Helena Kirshner, and she talks about how people online were grooming her into taking these chemicals, and then she finally started to realize what was going on.
greg ellis
Well, when we have doctors and we have medical practitioners, and they're children, they're impressionable young people, and I'm not some kind of moral bastion of propriety, but good God, what the fuck are we letting happen in the name of Hey, this is, you know, you get to choose.
I mean, you're 11 and 12.
I remember I was 11 and 12.
I didn't necessarily dress up in dresses, but you know, it was a little bit pantomime play and I had friends who were girls who dressed up with tomboys and it was like phases.
You're an actor.
ian crossland
You're fucking training.
greg ellis
Well, yeah, you got a point.
Yeah, but I mean, you know, 11 and 12 to be suggesting that a child knows themselves, but that's why we're all called parents.
We steer them, we shepherd them, we protect them, you know?
tim pool
These people who don't know it's fantasy.
I don't know it's fantasy think about the kind of moral Frailty and mental frailty required to allow this to happen
It's the same kind of broken mind that allows something like Hitler or so
ian crossland
I get the vibe that like a kid's like mommy. I like to wear a dress when they're like nine years
And the mom's like, oh my god, he's a girl!
But instead they should be like, yes, it's fun to play fantasy.
You can dress up in any costume you want.
You can even be an actor one day and get paid to do it.
Like, you let a kid know that young that it's okay to play fantasy and dress in whatever you want and paint your face.
tim pool
Instead, the kid goes, mom, I want to wear a dress.
And she goes, We'll schedule the surgery tomorrow.
ian crossland
Fucking insane.
tim pool
They're like, time to cut off your genitals because you wanted to wear a dress.
ian crossland
That's when I start to get really, really worried, angry, nervous.
They're doing it.
tim pool
Puberty blockers are fucked up.
So you know Jazz Jennings?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Jazz was a famous trans child who never went through male puberty because they put him on puberty blockers.
And because of that, his genitals never grew.
So when he got older and now wanted to transition to be surgically altered, they said you don't have anything down there to surgically alter.
So they had to do a bunch of weird grafts and like take skin from other parts and like they take colon to make a fake vagina.
unidentified
It is devastation on the human body.
greg ellis
I speak to a lot of parents, fathers who are devastated, who have had to endure their children, daughters and sons, being told they have gender dysphoria at 11, 12 years old, and there's nothing they can do about it.
There was a case in Texas, they're forced to refer to their child that they've been alienated from for years because of our corrupt system.
By their new pronouns and their new name and their new gender identity.
ian crossland
This is like if the mom wants to transition the kid and the dad doesn't?
And then the court decides the dad has no say?
greg ellis
Because the court has already decided, as is most of the case, that the, you know, custody is... Those decisions, legal decisions, are made by the mother for the most part.
tim pool
So that's Jazz.
Became depressed and then became morbidly obese.
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tim pool
And now as part of her TLC TV show, has to lose all the weight. It is a corporate nightmare
dystopia. These trans surgeries and treatments aren't happening because they care about kids,
it's because these for-profit medical centers are like, hey man, I get money.
20 grand to cut off this little girl's tits.
Fuck it, I don't care.
That's what's happening.
greg ellis
To me, it's the mutilation of children.
That's it.
unidentified
If you're an adult, do whatever you want to do.
greg ellis
You've got the money, you want to pay, whatever.
I mean, I see some crazy surgeries going on in our society and culture.
I'm an older man, I go, what's the new fad that girls are supposed to, or women are supposed to, but children?
I mean, what's gone- what is- but seriously, what has happened with our society and our culture to the point that it's not only is it accepted, but it's revered and encouraged.
You were saying aloud, it's encouraged.
tim pool
Yes.
So, it's holy.
There's a video of women screaming about Roe v. Wade, and you can tell if you watch and you know editing, that they're staged.
It's not like someone- you'll notice some videos are real.
A woman will be filming herself, she'll be like, I can't believe this ruling just came down.
Start screaming and you're like, okay, she's genuinely angry and filming yourself. But many of these videos they
set the camera down they press go they step back and then they go ah
And you're and you can tell from that split-second. You're like, hey they staged that
Because they know it'll get them clicks They know the right will mock them and the left will share
them and then what happens is little kids see that and think this
Is normal, this is real and I should behave this way They're growing up eating the refuse of their adult grifters and acting as they've seen them on the internet.
It's a downward spiral that results in this country becoming refuse.
ian crossland
Like the furry phenomenon where people grow up watching Bugs Bunny talk.
tim pool
And they want to have sex with Bugs Bunny.
ian crossland
Yeah, they think they're also going to be like that.
greg ellis
Oh, the furries.
seamus coughlin
Do you think that's where furries came from, though?
unidentified
Yes.
seamus coughlin
Really?
tim pool
Well, absolutely.
You know, okay.
greg ellis
It's not why I dress up as Bugs Bunny.
ian crossland
That's not why I do it.
tim pool
Okay, so furries dress up like anthropomorphized cartoon animals.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
They don't dress up like animals.
No, I hear that.
But also, I mean, people have been depicting anthropomorphized animals for a very long time.
seamus coughlin
I think it's just the internet.
tim pool
on a Bugs Bunny costume and then they have sex with each other.
It's not all sexual, it's an identity issue.
seamus coughlin
No I hear that but also I mean people have been depicting anthropomorphized animals for
very long time.
I think it's just the internet.
I think it's like someone...
It's the internet.
a hint of that inclination and then they're able to find a little echo chamber with other
people who do and then it just gets worse and worse because people seek out novelty
and a stranger version of the thing that they're into until they get to that.
tim pool
It's the internet.
Since the Looney Tunes happened, and there were probably a lot of people who developed
weird furry fetish stuff or furry identity stuff, but they had no way to know how to
express it.
You can't walk up to a stranger and be like, are you a furry?
The internet allows you to do that, to safely screen for your ideology and then expand upon it.
ian crossland
TV kind of bridged the opening to seeing it and getting people getting there, but the internet allows them to communicate with each other and create groups and then identities, like group identities.
seamus coughlin
Well, and I think they also make it work.
Well, in the same way that Helena said that she was groomed into being transgender and very confused about her identity, I think the same thing happens all the time in other communities.
I mean, when you're looking with the furry community too.
Yeah, all of it.
I mean, it's just someone who is like very far down that path speaks to someone who has some
like vague interest in it and then pulls them down with them.
tim pool
They do what's called love bombing.
So Helena was explaining how they'd be like, why don't you, you know, you could be trans
and not even know it.
Why don't you like get a short haircut?
Cause that's, that's temporary, you know?
I just see how you feel.
And then, so she did, then they're like post pictures and then they bombard her with like, oh my God,
you look so amazing.
And they're like, how do you feel now?
And she goes, I feel really good.
I'm like, you're probably trans.
That's why you feel good.
Cause you're like a boy now.
Why don't you put binders on?
It's temporary.
You just put it on and see what you look like.
Post the photos.
And then everyone, whoa, you look so cool.
You would be an awesome boy.
And she's like, I feel really good.
Hey, why don't you get the hormones?
You already know you're trans.
And then she did.
That's how they do it.
They're groomers.
greg ellis
Wow.
Yeah.
ian crossland
Whether they know it or not.
Well, the other kids that are probably going through it with her might not even realize what's happening.
tim pool
Well, yeah, the kids don't know they're being groomed.
ian crossland
But it's the parents that are impressionable.
Yeah, and the parent needs to reiterate to the kid that fantasy is okay.
It's okay not to play.
greg ellis
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
But also, I think, really importantly, stay off the internet, right?
lydia smith
Yeah.
ian crossland
I think so.
seamus coughlin
Parents really got to make sure their kids stay off the internet.
ian crossland
Absolutely.
greg ellis
But it's amazing how many parents don't.
You walk into a, I mean, particularly where I've been living in California, in Hollywood, You walk in and there are families on iPhones and iPads, and it's the device dependency, the reverse psychology of the anti-social media platforms, and the dopamine hits, and the scrolling, and there isn't... Get the kids outside!
Yeah, get them off the devices.
seamus coughlin
And here's what's so insidious, right?
Even when they're outside, they're looking at that stuff.
When I was a kid, you know, adults would have sort of similar commentary about our electronics, and I think there was validity there.
We didn't have cable.
I didn't watch much TV.
But a lot of other kids were inside watching TV and we were on occasion too
But at least in my generation when you were outside you were outside
Right nowadays, they've got this in their face all the time so even when they're outdoors on a beautiful day and
In any other generation would be using their imagination and exploring they're still staring at this thing
ian crossland
It's their whole life maybe the kids are the new leaders of our world the
politicians and And as they get older, they're going to retire out and we're going to have kids in test tubes.
So it's not about sex.
It's about giving children the access to every bit of information in reality, because they'll have a more pure understanding of how to deal with it.
That's some fucking world economic shit, man.
tim pool
Cut off your son's balls and then gorge him as he's depressed and turn him into that thing.
unidentified
That's so sad.
ian crossland
It's so sad.
lydia smith
It's heartbreaking.
ian crossland
That's so sad.
I think that we should, at some point, interview this person, Jazz, because she deserves to at least express to the world.
tim pool
Jazz became extremely depressed and then dropped out of going to Harvard.
unidentified
She couldn't be alone.
tim pool
And her family said that she can't be alone, because, you know, and then she started just eating and mass gorging, and she couldn't be alone because, because what?
greg ellis
She was suicidal?
unidentified
Yeah.
greg ellis
It's so tragic.
unidentified
Poor person.
greg ellis
It's just heartbreaking.
And so how old was she when this happened and where were her parents?
tim pool
Her parents were in on it.
But you gotta imagine if you're like a poor family and then Hollywood comes to you and these rich people come to you and they say we're gonna give you all this money, you're a hero, everyone loves you, they do it to their kids.
This is the same thing with like communism or fascism or whatever.
People just march in lockstep with the power structures, things that benefit them.
You know, there's two kinds of people.
Those who say, fuck you, I'd rather be homeless.
And those who say, yes, sir, please may have another.
Obviously, there's a gradient between.
But these are the people who are just like, I'll do whatever you say, just give me wealth
and access.
ian crossland
More like a group to feel normal around.
I think maybe kids need some sort of outlet where they can feel accepted that isn't like
Skatepark!
Stuff like that.
Because I think I could help them via our TV show on the internet, but it's like, that's the internet.
And then you've got to be there with your kid if you're going to watch the internet, even if it's this show, I think.
I don't want six-year-olds to be watching this without their parents.
tim pool
Well, yeah, this is the after hours, fuck, fuck, shit, piss, fuck, cunt, cocksucker, motherfucker, tits, fuck, twat.
unidentified
Hell yeah!
ian crossland
I was speaking my language, dude.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
But I don't know if we can use this technology for better as well.
I imagine we could.
Like, I used to watch Mr. Rogers.
Do you guys ever watch that show?
greg ellis
I'd never heard of it until I came to America, and then I saw that the first thing I saw was that, I think it was the documentary.
Oh yeah, they did a movie.
Right, that was it, yeah.
And it was, you know... Howdy, neighbor!
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
And it was like you could say it was creepy and like what this weird old dude talking to kids but like he was also so nice and kind and kept reminding me that it's okay to play make-believe.
tim pool
It's okay.
Remember the Family Guy joke where Mr. Rogers got binoculars and he's looking into his hot female neighbor's undressing and he goes, oh hello neighbor.
Or howdy neighbor.
Creepy.
Yeah, it was a kid's show, and it was like Lamb Chop.
unidentified
Lamb Chop.
ian crossland
Yeah, I never watched Lamb Chop much.
My brother loved it, though.
tim pool
Lamb Chop was really annoying.
Lamb Chop Sing-Along?
unidentified
Lamb Chop?
tim pool
I don't remember Lamb Chop.
It was a puppet.
It sounded like it was dying all the time.
seamus coughlin
Was that like one of the puppets?
tim pool
Was that Carol Channing?
greg ellis
I think so.
Was she the voice of Lamb Chop?
ian crossland
Yeah, it was a girl, a woman who had Lamb Chop.
greg ellis
Carol Channing, I think.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
It sound like that's like it was dying.
ian crossland
There was. Oh, yeah. Barney. Once Barney came around, we're talking about anthropomorphization and furries
again, like the kids making people think they're really dinosaurs. And they're like, I want to be in a dinosaur
suit to
Carol Channing.
lydia smith
I watch Barney and I'm pretty normal.
ian crossland
We are pretty normal.
greg ellis
We had a show called Rainbow when I was growing up.
Jeffrey was the normal guy and then there was Zippy and Bungle who were two Zippy was very tall like that!
unidentified
He had a zippy mouth!
greg ellis
And George was very... And then there was Rod, Jane and Freddy, the names they come up with.
And they did this episode that they didn't think was going to get aired and it was all sexually innuendo.
I think you can still find it on the BBC show.
And it starts out with... What's it called?
Rainbow.
And it starts out with George peeling a banana.
unidentified
He goes, one skin, two skin, three skin, This has been around for a long time.
This has aired for a couple decades.
Jeffrey's for it's been around for a long time. This is aired for a couple decades. Yeah, I'm showing my I'm
showing my age here I just like your accessory Street, basically
greg ellis
Yeah, it's similar is kind of show yeah, as it be and bungle in them, but it was a very fun
and then we had I think was a show called Captain Pogwash and
His first mate was semen stains and I think you have master baits
And we were kids watching this and we were Roger the cabin boy who would always could be in there in
the cabin when Captain Pogwash will get changed behind the See?
unidentified
Rainbow!
greg ellis
You see?
unidentified
What?
Bungle, where are you going?
ian crossland
Come back here, you'll get lost.
unidentified
Rainbow!
Right, are you ready Bungle?
greg ellis
Yeah.
unidentified
Ready!
Right, off you go then.
A rainbow, interesting coincidence.
Right.
Yep.
greg ellis
Wow.
unidentified
What the fuck?
ian crossland
What is this?
Ralph!
Bit higher, Bungle.
unidentified
That feels hard!
Wow.
And that feels smooth when I touch it!
It's no good just touching things, Bungle.
I mean, feel it properly!
Oh, alright then!
That's it.
ian crossland
What is this?
greg ellis
It's a show we watched as kids.
unidentified
Smoke it, Bungle!
tim pool
Smoke it!
greg ellis
No, this is a one-off.
lydia smith
This is like a one-off thing they never expected.
tim pool
This is a random episode I pulled up.
It's season 10.
ian crossland
They're just having fun like the creators were and they didn't think it was gonna air?
greg ellis
I believe so, yeah.
tim pool
I don't know, it's called Rainbow.
greg ellis
Huh?
tim pool
It's called Rainbow.
greg ellis
Yeah, the things that are up above the streets and houses rainbow flying high
unidentified
Everyone can see it climbing into the sky make your world into a rainbow
Stroke it stroke it Not going to get you.
ian crossland
South Park, I do think that these shows, though they look like kids shows, just because something's
a cartoon doesn't mean it's not gonna...
Not gonna get ya.
Not gonna twist ya.
greg ellis
I mean for the most part it was a fun show.
It was just that one episode, though, that was just all sexual innuendo.
ian crossland
You remember as a kid?
tim pool
No, that episode I pulled up was random, and they told the guy to stroke it.
greg ellis
Well, yeah, it was... Well, I think if you look back, you can see that it's like the best kinds of movies that, you know, those movies, animated movies, that the parent can go with the kid, and the parent can enjoy that adult humor and the nudge-nudge wink-wink jokes, but the kid is not really gonna get it.
There was probably a lot of that going on in the BBC.
Zippy?
unidentified
What is it, Zippy?
Oh, I'm sorry, Zippy!
I haven't got time to help you now!
tim pool
Zippy?
unidentified
Oh, oh, oh, oh, Bungle, Bungle, Bungle, Bungle, have you got a minute?
What is it Zippy?
Yeah, well, I need a bit of help with my song.
greg ellis
Oh, I'm sorry Zippy, I haven't got time to help you now.
unidentified
Oh, but, but, but...
Rockhammer.
Some are big and some are small.
greg ellis
If you found that one episode, that would be...
tim pool
I don't know, I don't know, that's just what came up.
ian crossland
Did they ever zip his mouth shut?
tim pool
Did they ever brutally beat him in front of the children to get him to shut the fuck up?
ian crossland
Remember when they made Bert and Ernie gay?
seamus coughlin
Did they really do that?
No.
ian crossland
That wasn't real?
greg ellis
Well, they slept in the same bedroom, didn't they?
unidentified
Yeah.
greg ellis
There's nothing wrong with that.
In single beds.
ian crossland
Yeah, they were friends.
I always thought growing up that Bert and Ernie were friends.
They just lived together.
They were friends, or brothers, or something.
I never asked.
seamus coughlin
Roommates, but there's no such thing as platonic relationships.
ian crossland
I didn't think anything about it as a kid.
It never crossed my mind.
lydia smith
Yeah, I was a little suspicious.
I was like, what are these guys doing together?
greg ellis
I was never suspicious of Bert and Ernie.
I thought they were just friends.
What are you doing to my child?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, Bert was in front of a TV.
unidentified
Hey Bert.
seamus coughlin
Bird Squidward is really just a direct copy of Bert and then barely you know
Squidward's very very angry like my grandpa I wanted I want to do like
tim pool
parodies where we just have characters mercilessly beat the other character
that's all it is is a channel like grover word merciless a chain but no but
like a sponge Bob and then he just mercilessly beats the fucking shit up
spongebob because he deserves it yes Spongebob tortures that poor man.
seamus coughlin
That's kind of true.
That's the direction the show ended up going.
tim pool
Spongebob.
seamus coughlin
I've still never seen it.
The old seasons, you know, the very early stuff was really pretty funny.
It's one of those shows that has gone on for an insane amount of time and hasn't been good in like 15 years.
ian crossland
Something happened with Ren and Stimpy.
You guys remember that show?
seamus coughlin
The adult party cartoon they made?
ian crossland
It came out and it was all of a sudden this gore animation with like an eyeball throbbing and you see the veins.
It was the first time it ever happened in cartoons.
And then all these other, like, I felt like Spongebob carried the torch with that.
unidentified
No!
Spongebob does that!
ian crossland
And his eyes would stick way far out and you're like, what the fuck?
seamus coughlin
Spongebob does have some of those like hyper-detailed close-up gags for sure and I was running to be the first to do that wouldn't I can't remember one before but was that twisting children I wonder cuz like I it was gross my dad loved it yeah I for whatever reason we have been obsessed with exposing children to more and more disgusting things we just want to show them ugliness cartoons and other mediums we just want to show children ugliness I don't know why People are gross, but we got a little bit over.
tim pool
We have to wrap it up here, because I think we all need very hot showers.
ian crossland
Yeah, soak it out.
tim pool
Thanks for hanging out, man.
It's been a blast.
unidentified
Thanks for having me.
greg ellis
I really enjoyed it.
tim pool
Right on, man.
seamus coughlin
Appreciate it.
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