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Aug. 31, 2021 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - Australia Cyber Spying Bill Allows Device Takeover w/Sydney Watson And Elijah Schaffer
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elijah schaffer
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ian crossland
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sydney watson
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tim pool
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lydia smith
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tim pool
Man, Australia is like straight up Nazi country.
And a lot of people are like, Tim, don't use that word.
You're violating Godwin's law.
No, I don't know.
It's like getting there, right?
Where the correlation between what they're doing with building camps and their cybercrime law they just passed, where it allows the government to go into your device, modify or delete or add just full control of your device.
And I'm seeing a bunch of people be like, does that mean the government could go into your phone at any time and delete or plant evidence?
Yeah, yeah, what are you gonna do about it?
That's, uh, that's Australia, man.
Seeing these, uh, we have more reporting that, like, 135 people have been arrested protesting the lockdowns.
And I'll tell you this, man, the government's gonna use an emergency after emergency in every which way they can to gain more and more power.
And you look at many of these countries, you look at, like, well, the Commonwealth, for instance, the UK, Canada, it's really bad there.
It's kind of bad here.
You know, we have bad places, like New York is going full fascist.
But there's something special about Australia.
In just how, like, depraved and screwed up it is, where the rich people are on the beach frolicking about, like, you know, they got no problems, nothing to worry about, and the poor people are like, yo, why can't I leave my house?
Yeah, that's because you live in, you know, a country where...
Well, I'm going to say this, because the people need to stand up and protest.
They need to speak up and speak out and say no to this stuff.
Some of it works.
Apparently, Australia is now going to get rid of their zero COVID policy, which made no sense.
But we're going to get into all this stuff.
And I got to tell you, this cybercrime thing is above and beyond insane.
So joining us, we have a couple of awesome people.
One person apparently from Australia.
sydney watson
Apparently.
tim pool
Are you from Sydney, Sydney?
sydney watson
You know, if I was, I would actually give you permission to bully me.
Then it would be okay.
tim pool
But you're not from Sydney?
sydney watson
No, I'm from the Communist Republic of Victoria.
tim pool
Oh, okay.
sydney watson
Which is the extra bad bit right now.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
tim pool
Well, it'll be interesting to talk to you about it.
So, I don't know, you guys want to introduce yourself?
We got Elijah, too.
He's chillin'.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, you know, it's funny.
You were like, oh, yeah, no, I'm not from Sydney.
And you're like, I'm actually from the worst part.
It's like, oh, no, I'm not from L.A.
What the heck?
I'm from San Francisco.
It's like, oh, you're not really helping yourself there.
sydney watson
But I have to like I have to lean into it a little bit because I'm like, yeah, look, Australia is pretty pretty jacked right now.
But I am from the worst bit.
That's the badge of honor that I have.
I'm from the worst part.
elijah schaffer
Well, Kez, because if the audience doesn't know, my wife is Australian.
I lived in and out of there for a couple of years.
My family's all still stuck there.
They are slaves.
It went from, like, prison colony to free to prison colony again.
And apparently, at least her family, a lot of them are still in, like, Queensland and stuff.
So they still have a little bit of freedom.
Queensland is the last state that hasn't gone totally off its rockers, although they are building a concentration camp in Queensland still.
And they're calling it beautiful, and a step in the right direction, and a way to bring in foreign nationals.
Nothing says welcome to my country like locking you in a camp for two weeks.
tim pool
They're building a couple, aren't they?
Like, they got one in Brisbane.
How do you pronounce it?
Brisbane?
sydney watson
Brisbane.
tim pool
Not Brisbane.
sydney watson
Brisbane.
tim pool
Brisbane.
sydney watson
Also known as Brizzy.
Brizzy's the... Yeah, yeah, yeah.
elijah schaffer
Just let Leighton be like, Brizzo!
tim pool
What a terrible country.
sydney watson
You know what?
It's not.
tim pool
It's like... Terrible.
No, hold on, hold on, hold on.
You don't get to say it.
You got spiders that'll kill you, kangaroos.
I saw a video of this kangaroo and it looked like The Rock.
sydney watson
Yeah, they're jacked.
tim pool
They're jacked and it was like, I'm gonna kill you.
sydney watson
They have these like creepy little hands, right?
And they're sort of like little T-Rexes and they kind of do this.
It's the creepiest thing you've ever seen.
tim pool
And they've got like, don't they have like a huge claw?
And they'll like gut you.
sydney watson
Have you seen them fight?
Have you seen them fight?
tim pool
Yeah, they put their heads back.
sydney watson
Yeah, because they're doing their creepy little like hand thing.
It's super creepy.
tim pool
Australia is a crazy place.
sydney watson
When we were driving here, Elijah's going, look at all these spiderwebs in the trees.
Is this not this crazy thing?
And I'm like, maybe I don't notice because I'm acclimated to the fact that there's so many spiders and insects and things that are ginormous that I don't even notice anymore.
tim pool
If this world is some kind of MMORPG, Australia is like the final continent.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's level 50 continent.
tim pool
Yeah, it's like top level.
It's like all the monsters are super big and the spiders are as big as your face.
elijah schaffer
But they're used to it and here's the crazy thing is they act like it's normal.
This is why you guys are crazy.
This is why you guys accepted the lockdowns.
I swear.
Because I went to this beautiful bay, okay?
We don't have this kind of stuff in America, where you can go out maybe 60, 70, 80 feet and it's only two to three feet of water in the ocean.
It's white sand beaches and I'm like ready to go in the water and my wife's just like, hold up for a second.
Make sure that you just realize that there are like kind of like chalking eels here and also just a small note if you see a beautiful shell don't pick it up because there's these like spike things and and the Chinese people always pick them up and then they stab you and you die so just like be alert for your feet when you're walking I said oh a little tidbit you might die enjoy your vacation Yeah, I mean, don't go in the ocean.
sydney watson
There's iraganji.
They're these tiny little jellyfish, and if you get stung by one, you're probably going to, uh, you know, your system will shut down.
You won't be able to breathe.
unidentified
You'll die.
elijah schaffer
But it's beautiful.
Dude, that's legit.
tim pool
That's legit a high-level area.
ian crossland
Why Australia?
elijah schaffer
Why?
unidentified
Why?
elijah schaffer
It's like that article that said when the guy died from COVID and it was like, it could have been worse, right?
It's like, you look at this, you go, it's beautiful.
And it's basically a beautiful death sentence.
You go there and if you don't die from the government lockdown, you walk outside and you're like, fresh air.
And the fresh air kills you.
sydney watson
Yeah, this is true.
tim pool
It reminds me of Northrend, you know, in World of Warcraft.
Where, like, around the time when Wrath of the Lich King came out, for those that are familiar with the video games, and it's just like this, like, you know, continent of undead demons and this, you know, the Lich King, and then you have zombies and just, like, so you've got the government, which is like, man, it's just the, you know, we could make a video game in Australia, it would be an excellent final level.
ian crossland
Did the British put the monsters there?
When they put the prisoners there to guard them and challenge them.
tim pool
Anyway, we should get to the intro.
Ian is sitting here.
ian crossland
Ian Crossland, what up?
tim pool
And Lydia is sitting here.
lydia smith
I'm also in the corner laughing at these stories.
I'm really glad that Sydney survived her childhood in Australia to join.
sydney watson
Yes, this is true.
lydia smith
I'm pretty impressed.
sydney watson
I only had to fight one kangaroo and it was totally fine.
tim pool
Did you really fight a kangaroo?
I saw a video of a guy punch a kangaroo because it was trying to get his dog.
sydney watson
Yeah, I'm pretty sure he was actually Arrested after that or he'd been fined for something like hurting hurting wildlife or something the road kangaroos look like you can hit people People die all the time.
elijah schaffer
It's crazy when you're driving so there's a lot of warnings of kangaroo crossings, but it's not like here with deer where people still die here.
Apparently, it's very common.
That's why the utes, their trucks, they all have these grills in front of them because kangaroos just jump outside of your car.
tim pool
I saw a video of a party and a kangaroo just like wanders in and everyone's just like standing there frozen as the kangaroo bounces around the party.
And it's massive because they look like the rock, you know?
unidentified
We'll get to talking about Australia, I suppose.
tim pool
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sydney watson
For Ian!
Do it for Ian!
ian crossland
Thanks everyone!
elijah schaffer
For Kroger, Jesus Christ, honestly, hit it!
tim pool
Let's talk about the spying bill.
So as many of you may be aware, there's been a lot of news lately about Australia.
There have been protests over the lockdowns.
The lockdowns are the most draconian thing we've ever seen.
Meanwhile, you know, like Chris Hemsworth is surfing on the beach and he's got a smile on his face.
And even though the beach is under a strict lockdown, you're not allowed to leave your house.
But the rich people seem to be okay.
But everybody else is kind of complaining as to why they're locked down.
People are protesting.
Hundreds of people are getting arrested.
And now we have this on top of it.
Australian powers to spy on cybercrime suspects given green light.
I love how they say cybercrime suspects.
Coalition bill to create powerful new warrants allowing authorities to modify and delete data and even take over accounts passes the Senate.
That is amazing!
They say the identify and disrupt bill passed the Senate on Wednesday despite concerns about the low bar of who can authorize a warrant and the government failed to implement all the safeguards recommended by the bipartisan joint committee on intelligence and security and apparently it was like just like sped through parliament or whatever is that how it works you guys have parliament and then they just like rubber stamped it so imagine this You are talking to your friends about, hey, you know, like I think this lockdown stuff's pretty bad.
And then all of a sudden you get a knock on the door and they're like, we have copied all of your phones, photos and video and everything.
We own it.
And we found ourselves a crime.
Cause come on, there's like, I'm sure it's similar in Australia.
Like it is here.
There's just so many laws in the books.
You're always breaking crime.
You're always breaking laws.
Isn't there a book about this?
Yeah.
We had someone talk about like a four crimes a day or something.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Four crimes a day people are committing.
Yeah, and not only that, but if they have access to your phones, your communications, and all that stuff, there could be a joke!
And they'll be like, nope, that's serious.
You could jokingly say something like, oh, you know, I would do X, Y, or Z, you know, and they'll... There was like one story we saw of a guy who was posting memes or something in a Discord server, and then the cops came and arrested him because it was public.
So anyway, let's just talk about, you know, Australia is a country of monsters and dragons and mythical beasts that always want to kill you.
Most of the country is a barren wasteland of death.
sydney watson
Yes, also true.
tim pool
And there was a story about a woman whose Apple Maps told her to take a wrong turn and then she drove like 500 miles into the outback and then like car broke down and she was stranded.
Because just like the country is, it's like a death pit full of monsters.
And the places that were safe, the cities, have now been overrun by, like, full-on fascism, that they're gonna arrest you, lock you in your home.
There's a video of, like, a woman walking down the street and the cop starts beating her because she wasn't wearing a mask, even though she had a medical exemption.
sydney watson
Yeah, he dragged her to the ground.
They dragged her to the ground.
unidentified
Yeah.
sydney watson
Dead set.
tim pool
So let's just start by asking, I'll ask you, Sydney, what the hell is wrong with you people?
elijah schaffer
I've been asking that about her for a long time.
sydney watson
Honestly, it's funny because people always ask me, why did you leave Australia?
And this is sort of why, like on an unironic note, and I don't want to shit on Australians too much.
Sorry, I've already ruined your day.
I don't want to, I don't want to, um, rag on Australians too much because I do love Aussies, but dead set, I got to a point where I was like, this is a bloody prison.
This is actually a prison and I want out.
tim pool
It's always been.
sydney watson
I know, but I didn't realize it until I was like, oh God, I'm like the only, well, I feel like I'm the only person living in the, you know, communist Republic of Victoria that actually gives a damn about freedom and doesn't want to, uh, live in, you know, abject, uh, government overrun horribleness for the rest of my day.
So I was like, let's go to America.
And now you're in Texas.
I know.
tim pool
That was like, you know, you were begging for freedom.
sydney watson
I was, yeah.
I won a Tony.
elijah schaffer
And single, too, by the way.
She's still not married.
sydney watson
I'm trying.
I'm trying so hard.
elijah schaffer
I'm just saying, she's not married.
Any guy that wants to show her a life of freedom, she has the dream of living on a ranch.
sydney watson
I do.
With horses.
I want some cows.
Oh, God, cows are so cute.
They'll cuddle you.
ian crossland
Yeah, they'll put your finger in their mouth and they'll suck on it.
Apparently it feels good.
I've never done it.
tim pool
What?
ian crossland
Someone told me that.
I'm a vessel of knowledge.
sydney watson
What are you doing?
unidentified
I like cows too, basically is what I'm saying.
elijah schaffer
Is it just fingers?
Is it just fingers?
unidentified
Of course.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
elijah schaffer
I was just asking.
No, but you know, it's funny because Kez, you know, I guess they don't know that's my wife, but Kez actually said the same thing.
People are like, how did she just leave?
tim pool
I was thinking about cows sticking your finger in a cow's mouth.
elijah schaffer
She was like, wow, that's going to start calling instead of the storks brought the baby.
It was like, oh, you know how babies make you stick your finger in a cow's mouth.
And then it all just came out.
tim pool
And it sucks on your finger.
Ian, you're on the internet too much.
ian crossland
Yeah, I'm like...
Everything I said was true.
elijah schaffer
I'm like, lively, because there's too much over there.
People go, why was she willing to move over here so quickly?
Because a lot of people are in two camps in Australia that people don't understand.
I would say the majority of people are very subservient, that they trust the government, that they think the government is on their side.
If you deny and you fight against the government, to put into perspective, we did a podcast together, and some people that I know over there were saying that we sounded communist, Because we are questioning the government and we are very far away from communists.
Go to Vosh or something if you want to watch communism.
Don't go to Slightly Offensive or Sidney Watts in our shows.
But the point is that there's this camp of people, I would say it's about one-third or less, that are just like, we are so sincerely effed and I'm going to probably need to get out of here and I don't know how.
We meet Australians all around America that got the green card lottery.
that wanted to get out because people are so cucked out and subjugated to this crown and to
the authority they can't think for themselves and they look at the people who are against the
government as being like bad behaved citizens yeah like they're they're bad people morally
tim pool
there was a there was a manhunt for a guy because he was coughing in the elevator well because he had
covid because he because he left lockdown because well but he apparently he was told this so this
guy he was told to go quarantine at a hotel and so there's video of him leaving his apartment
And they're like, look at him in the elevator, sneezing.
Like, what?
That's a weird thing.
But apparently they found him in a hotel, quarantining.
And they're like, you're under arrest, mate.
And then they drag him out and people are cheering.
sydney watson
Didn't he get like eight months in prison or something like that?
tim pool
No, no, no.
That was the protester.
sydney watson
Well, perhaps I'm wrong.
Someone should double check me on this.
But I think they might have arrested him and done like, I'm pretty sure.
elijah schaffer
They arrested him like he was a terrorist.
They put him in like in garbs and masks and gloves and carried like dragged, physically dragged him out.
sydney watson
None of this is new.
I can't stress this enough to Americans.
None of this is new.
It's not like this is something that someone just pulled from the sky, you know, that politicians suddenly were like, oh, you know what, let's become draconian.
No, this is honestly part of my frustration with Australia.
It always has been.
This is why I left, because Australians in a lot of ways, and I think I've said this probably on this show before, and I know I've certainly said it on your show, but Aussies in a lot of ways, I'm not saying all Aussies, but a portion of them view security as much more important than freedom.
So when you have that as the primary mentality and the primary prevailing attitude of most of your population, or at least a large portion of the population, then of course what we're seeing at the moment is a byproduct of that.
And people just roll over because they go, oh, you know, if we follow the law, daddy, government will give me my rights back.
Honey, when was the last time the government did anything for you?
tim pool
I think it was Dave Smith who said there's nothing more permanent than a temporary government program.
sydney watson
Seriously?
Honestly?
lydia smith
Or maybe he was quoting something.
tim pool
He said that on this show.
Anthony Karam has not been sentenced.
He was just charged, but he was denied bail and he's been charged with 13 offenses.
They called him public health enemy number one.
lydia smith
That's ridiculous.
tim pool
Allegedly went on the run.
I love how in the news report they've got like five cops and they're like in SWAT gear and they've got a bunch of doctors in full like pandemic panic garb and then they're like he was you know he was refusing quarantine though he was found in the hotel where the authorities had told him he should quarantine and I'm like the crazy thing about the story is for all I know they got video of the guy leaving his house to go to the hotel like he was told and then they were like oh but why is he why is he sneezing in public?
Arrest him.
unidentified
Did you guys watch the... I'm sure some of you saw... Public health enemy number one.
tim pool
Yeah, it's a bit... It has to be merch.
sydney watson
Australians are so hyperbolic like that.
Like, I don't know if you guys saw, there was a news report about him.
And there was, like you were talking about, the Australian commentator was like, this is whatever his name is.
Adam steps into the... It was all so dramatic.
And I'm going, the dude has the sniffles.
What is... What are we... What is happening right now?
unidentified
No, no.
tim pool
Well, to be fair, Sneezing and coughing without covering your mouth in an elevator, kind of a dick move.
lydia smith
Yeah, a little bit.
tim pool
Not worthy of a manhunt.
sydney watson
Was anybody else in the elevator with him?
tim pool
No, but still, come on.
ian crossland
Increasing viral load.
sydney watson
Was he spitting on the window?
elijah schaffer
He was being nasty.
He was being nasty, but I will say this.
Go to any major metropolitan area in the United States, and it's quite a similar experience.
In fact, I think you just fit in.
But in Australia, people are very prim.
They are very proper.
In a lot of the major cities, it's very clean.
Compared to US cities, Australians are very clean.
They're very orderly.
And what I want to point out that people don't know is that Australians are also like super based with their immigration policies.
And have actually take everything very seriously.
They could be a threat to their culture, to their ethnic, their monoculture, to any of these things.
They see these as huge threats.
So it makes sense that you could also take another enemy that could threaten you.
And they have that island mentality where it's like, we can keep COVID away completely because we're on an island.
And so they've taken it to an extremity to where people thought, and I think this is crazy, But they thought that they could essentially remain isolated from the world and never have a COVID death in their country ever.
As if respiratory illness.
sydney watson
That's what New Zealand did too.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
Would never ever find their way in.
sydney watson
You know what's funny?
I posted, I posted on Twitter something to the effect of, you know, I didn't really ever expect to be at a point where we would have these quarantine camps and yet here we are.
And someone responded and I have to give them props for this.
They responded and said, Sydney, you literally take your asylum seekers and send them to an offshore processing detention center.
And I thought to myself, yeah, one that I've actually defended in the past.
So I'm in Australia.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So what we do is because we call them boat people just, you know, and the boat and the boat people come to the borders and obviously the Australian police or whoever deals with it, you know, border protection goes.
elijah schaffer
Nope.
sydney watson
And sends them to Christmas Island.
Conveniently named Christmas Island.
It has nothing to do with Christmas.
And there they stay.
Maybe indefinitely.
I'm not sure.
So putting your own citizens... They ship them back.
elijah schaffer
A lot of times they ship them back.
sydney watson
But I mean, it does take a long time and these people obviously burn down the facilities and break things and, you know, molest and rape each other.
elijah schaffer
The signs on the beaches are like, if you see their immigration signs, it's something out of, like, what would be considered here extreme right wing, which is basically just means being epic.
sydney watson
um where it basically just has like a warship like almost like tipping a boat of people and it's like don't come here don't come here you're gonna get tipped like that's basically what it says it's it's it's so extreme like you might die if you try to come here we have a deal with um Papua New Guinea and it's basically like hey we'll send you all the asylum seekers we just don't want to deal with them But I guess the thing is, right, those are not citizens of Australia.
Here, take them.
These are not citizens though, so I mean it sounds heartless and I don't want to get into the immigration debate necessarily, but...
It sounds heartless to just be like, yeah, okay, but you can't do this crap to your own citizens.
These are people that live, work, contribute to your economy, pay taxes, et cetera.
elijah schaffer
The crown can't abuse their own citizens?
Have you not seen the history of the crown?
sydney watson
Yeah, I know.
It's bad.
ian crossland
Yeah, I want to highlight the crown's interactivity.
sydney watson
You love this, don't you?
ian crossland
I do because people are like, Ian, you moron.
The queen has no power.
It's all ceremonial.
sydney watson
I'm here to back you up.
ian crossland
Royal assent is a thing.
If the Queen doesn't want to approve anything that's ever done, she can say, I'm not giving royal assent.
sydney watson
Well, so with our legislation, and this is not widely known, I don't think outside of even Australia, in Australia, it's probably not widely known, the Queen does sign off on all of our legislation called Royal Assent.
I'm not sure if it applies anywhere else, but it certainly applies to our legislation.
elijah schaffer
She removed the Prime Minister, right?
sydney watson
In a rare case, yeah.
Back in the 60s.
unidentified
Wait, she did?
sydney watson
Yeah, she did.
She fired, she fired the, so Gough Whitlam was the, not the present God, I've been in this country for too long, was the Prime Minister.
And she, she fired him and fired the government.
elijah schaffer
So you're not wrong.
unidentified
Nope.
ian crossland
It's terrifying.
elijah schaffer
Think of yourself as a better man.
sydney watson
Any of the people that represent the Queen in Australia can actually act on behalf of the Queen.
They can fire governments.
They can, again, they can turn down legislation.
They have a certain grace period where they can do all this stuff.
I don't know if they have any hand in repealing legislation.
I'm not sure about that, but they certainly do have.
The Queen makes decisions.
She could theoretically make decisions.
It's not just a symbolic thing.
She can actually do it.
ian crossland
Yes.
sydney watson
But it is symbolic for right now.
She never does.
ian crossland
Like anything that happens in that country is because the queen wants it to happen that way.
sydney watson
Sure.
Theoretically.
Yeah.
tim pool
You know, it's really cool when like, we were all like, hey, King suck it.
sydney watson
Yeah.
tim pool
And then he was like, oh, America!
ian crossland
And the French were like, we will sacrifice our government to allow you to screw the... They sacrificed their monarchy.
unidentified
Dude.
tim pool
I mean, they didn't know that was going to happen.
sydney watson
When you describe it that way, it's so rough.
elijah schaffer
This is kind of weird, but I was talking to Beck, good old Glenn Beck, pretty deeply about this stuff.
And kind of what he was telling me, though, is unfortunately, when we talk a lot about people are like, it's OK.
It's gonna be a revolution!
We gotta fight back!
I was at the Capitol today and I ran into an officer who I saw on January 6th and we were talking about it and I'm not gonna get into much details but he got pretty injured, there's a lot going on and he just kind of was like, hey I've actually been wanting to talk to you and I don't know how we ended up running into you on the streets.
Here in DC again.
And we were talking about it and I was just saying, yeah, like this is a confusing time in our country because we, it's hard to make sense of things, uh, of what's going on and what our future holds.
And Beck kind of told me, I asked him the same question.
Hey, like, what does the future hold for America?
What does the future hold for Australia?
What, what, what does it hold for people who are saying, I'm sick of this, uh, present tense version of chat, but like, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm sick of this.
You can't say the word, but I'm sick of this.
And like, what do we do to... Bulldust.
Yeah, to overturn this.
How do we fight back?
And you know, he gave me something that's kind of disconcerting, but also bluntly honest.
He said, well, we're never going to see a type of revolution like we have seen in the past, because simply put, every one of those revolutions, including the Civil War, the only reason the tides turned is because a foreign government that had interest ended up investing money into a group that ended up winning.
For instance, in the Civil War, there was great interest the French had in seeing the British Empire decline.
And so that's why they funded us so heavily, because anybody that could weaken the grip of the British Empire opened up trade for them.
And also, he said even in the Civil War, which I didn't know, the money was pretty unilateral from European countries between the North and the South because they were really afraid that if the South ended up winning, that there would end up being tariffs and problems with trading with cotton and different trade deals.
So they kind of sent money to both sides.
And it wasn't until, I forget which battle it was, but there was a turn in the battle that they took their money out of the South and gave it to the North, which ended up giving them the upper hand to win.
And so if you look at even American history, the fight against tyranny, or the union trying to win back the country, or whatever people think, always involved foreign money.
And now with this global economy, this global interest, right after Wilson sold us out to the Federal Reserve, and you have this global banking system, where companies are against American traditional values, there's no corporation, or country, or banking group that's gonna just come in and fund, let's say, a revolution in Australia to fight back.
It would be a guerrilla fight, Probably more like the Taliban, but even the Taliban has some people say it's funded by Pakistan.
Some people say it's funded by Iran.
tim pool
There's a country that's going to fund a revolution in America.
unidentified
Who?
tim pool
China.
For the left.
sydney watson
Yeah, true.
tim pool
Yeah, they'll invest in tons of these programs.
They'll place spies all over the country and they'll start putting out woke propaganda, which they're doing, which destabilizes the country.
elijah schaffer
Sounds like what's already happening.
tim pool
I'm talking about what they're literally doing.
I'm not predicting anything.
sydney watson
China would do the same thing in Australia.
tim pool
They probably are.
sydney watson
Well, that's exactly it.
So Daniel Andrews, actually the Premier of Victoria, because we don't have governors, we have premiers.
He at one point, well actually I believe he's taken CCP money, but at one point, you should find the clip if you guys are interested, there's a clip of basically a Victorian police station I believe playing some like communist anthem, Chinese communist anthem or something.
Rather than the Australian national anthem.
Or maybe I'm getting my wires crossed and they're flying the Chinese flag.
I can't remember.
But the point is that they have so many little creepy ties to the CCP that it's like, oh, that's why everyone's in freaking perpetual lockdown.
Beautiful.
tim pool
To go back to what you said, there's a different reason I think you're not going to see a revolution like any of these past civil wars or revolutions, and it's that we're in a new generation of warfare.
Why should anyone need kinetic warfare when you can simply post a series of tweets and convince someone of something and then they'll be on your side?
elijah schaffer
Is that why they say communism was never tried correctly?
Someone told me that that meant that they were always using initial violence to purge rather than social pressure for allegiance, and that the way that they're kind of using this is to bring people into state control before they have to do an eventual purge.
tim pool
Imagine if I said to you, no one's ever tasted unicorn.
No person has ever really tasted true unicorn.
You'd be like, unicorns don't exist.
Hey, you're starting to get it!
There is no real communism.
This idea of this, like, everyone owns everything utopia makes literally no sense.
It's just like saying unicorn.
So when they say real communism has never been tried, you're like, yeah, no one's ever ridden a unicorn, I get it.
If you're not going to, it's never gonna happen.
And the only way to do it is to take some kind of fake horn and jam it onto the face of a horse and bolt it down or something and the horse is all screaming and you're like, it's a unicorn, I swear!
That's basically what they've been doing.
elijah schaffer
Little Alex Jones there.
unidentified
Sticking fingers in cows' mouths, boating stuffed horses.
elijah schaffer
God.
There is a tweet, you would laugh at this, because I always think of your little face where you're just like, that weird face.
My little, little face.
That's a good face.
Somebody wrote, it was like a meme, and somebody wrote, they were like, yeah, I can't wait till communism finally comes in, because I can't wait to figure out what I'm going to do with my farm.
And then it just kept zooming in on my, and then it was like, My farm!
tim pool
Somebody tweeted, what are you going to do once communism is finally achieved?
And then someone responded, probably take some new classes, hang out in the town, teach people how to grow vegetables on my farm, spend some time with the family.
And then someone responded with, your farm?
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
sydney watson
Yeah.
Powerful.
tim pool
These people don't understand.
Just to see that response from someone about what they're going to get to do in communism, it's like, yo, just look at what the North Koreans are allowed to do.
All right.
That's what you'll be allowed to do.
Starve to death.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
You have at least three options of haircuts.
Yeah.
At least they can get haircuts in North Korea because in a lot of cities in the United States, we weren't allowed to get those.
That's crazy because you would hear that two years ago.
Lydia, I know this too, because you're like pretty like free spirited person.
And so you would go to a point where you would hear, oh, they're like, Litigating what kind of haircut you can get meaning you can
be prosecuted or fined for going against a haircut That's crazy to live in a society where they would the law
would get into getting haircuts and then all of a sudden I remember I had to literally do a
drug deal basically in in California by like paying a guy cash going in through this
back door to get my hair cut Yeah, it was it was like the windows were covered
I was like a human trafficking situation and it was just so I can get scissors to you know
trim my hair and And I'm going, we went quickly from that seeming dystopian to that is they have more freedom with their hair than we do.
sydney watson
Yeah.
Honestly, just, just to this thing about, this just made me laugh because Jack, I just want to say this because it actually made me laugh and I think other people will find it funny too.
Jack Posobiec responded to that thing you're talking about, and he posted this picture that said, oh, you thought communism would support you so you could write bad poetry and soundcloud rap all day instead of laboring in the fields?
Haha, please face the wall.
Oh yeah.
tim pool
What I like to say to people, what I usually say is I'm talking about UBI, but it applies here too.
How many people do you guys know play guitar?
sydney watson
A couple, a handful.
tim pool
A handful?
Yes.
And how many of them are really bad at it?
sydney watson
A handful.
tim pool
A handful, yeah, yeah.
And will those people be like, if they had the option not to work, they'd be like, I'm gonna be a musician.
sydney watson
Yeah, well, probably.
unidentified
Yeah, so how many bad guitarists do we need?
sydney watson
None.
tim pool
Yes.
So there's two problems here.
One, we already have too many people who want to make careers out of non-productive fields, though I love the arts and think people should try to make art.
There is an issue where in our society over the past several decades or generations, they've been like, instead of inventing things, why don't you try and be a famous singer?
Because I guess people make a lot of money doing that, so we prioritize that.
Now we have a lack of tradespeople and we need people to, you know, fix our toilets and build our houses.
And there's much, there's very few people to do it.
And there's very few truckers.
But I'll tell you this, these people who want communism, many of them are these bad guitar players who are like, I hate working at Starbucks.
If we were communists, I'd play guitar all day.
It's like, dude, you'd be breaking rocks all day.
sydney watson
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
You'd think they're going to, no, they're going to be like, to each according to his needs.
Or what is it?
What is it?
From each according to their means, to each according to their needs.
Yeah, bro, you don't have very much means or needs.
Why would they give you anything or let you do anything?
Your means are, you got arms, and a rock needs to break.
We're not gonna ask you to solve any equations here, buddy.
Into the fields you go.
sydney watson
You know what's funny though is speaking of like people actually being- So dark.
Yeah it is.
unidentified
I don't like it.
sydney watson
It's sad.
Please face the wall.
It's kind of weird because as much as we're going to probably rage against Australia, rage against the machine in Australia in this episode, what's kind of funny is Australia's actually got down pat quite well that whole making people useful thing because tradesmen, or we call them tradies in Australia, there's tons of them because people don't waste their time trying to be bad musicians.
It's a very American-esque thing in my opinion.
Because there's a lot of entitlement in this country.
Much as I love living here and much as I love Americans, there's so many great qualities of Americans, there's a butt ton of entitlement that I find exceedingly irritating that Aussies simply don't have.
Aussies are much more humble, much more willing to take criticism in some capacity than Americans would be.
And there are these things where, again, when we talk about these communist ideals and things, that's why, like Elijah was saying before, Aussies are actually quite resistant to it.
It's more the fact that They trust the government too much, which is why it plays out the way that it does.
Whereas Americans, weirdly enough, are, you know, I think that there's probably a bigger proportion of them that are like, oh, communism could work because then I can play my guitar all day.
And I swore again to him.
I'm sorry.
It nearly came out of my mouth.
tim pool
I stopped it.
sydney watson
I stopped another one.
tim pool
After the show ends, she starts screaming all the profanities she couldn't get out.
elijah schaffer
She's shaking.
This is what she does.
She's a women's sabotage.
They subvert.
unidentified
It's true.
tim pool
We have to inform TikTok that it's not true and it's a joke.
Yeah, TikTok actually took down one of our videos.
elijah schaffer
Really?
tim pool
Yeah, for a joke like this.
elijah schaffer
We won't put it on TikTok.
tim pool
I'm kidding.
elijah schaffer
She'd be happier at home, but this is what she's doing.
But on a reality though, this is where people don't understand with Australia and being orderly.
Someone could call me racist for saying this.
It's just called living in Los Angeles.
And the reality is one of the things that struck me as the most odd, it wasn't the spiders and it wasn't the little death creatures that kill you on vacation in the water.
I remember seeing how, and this is going to offend some people but understand where I'm coming from here, that being a tradie wasn't seen as being blue collar as in America, meaning when you're going down the 405 or the 605 freeway or something in California, There's a very distinct look for the majority of people working for Caltrans or on the streets.
Most of them are Hispanic.
A lot of them are overweight, unhealthy.
It's always a joke, right?
That how many people does it take to dig a hole in California on the road?
unidentified
One to hold the shovel, a bunch to stand around looking the Yeah, nine to watch and one to dig.
elijah schaffer
Because that's just what it is.
It's this inefficient, expensive mess of people who, not all people are, but just this government waste project.
I was shocked.
And they're usually late thirties, mid thirties, late thirties.
When I went to Australia, it is these young men, 1920, cut, chad looking, jaw dudes who are just masculine.
sydney watson
Aussie tradies.
elijah schaffer
Dressed pretty well, not gross.
Good haircuts, like what we would think of being like a Navy SEAL or something.
This is what it looked like.
And they're just efficient.
They're moving.
I saw a project get done like one week on the street.
And I remember going even into the state-sponsored alcohol, whatever those things are, those big stores where you can only get alcohol at, because you can't get it in the supermarket.
sydney watson
The Bottle Shop?
elijah schaffer
Yeah, but the big ones.
What's that one?
sydney watson
The Bottolo?
unidentified
The Bottle Shop?
I don't know.
sydney watson
Oh, you're talking like Dan Murphy.
elijah schaffer
But the line, there was a line of people that were all dressed like tradies, buying their beer, getting ready for the night.
You could tell they had this regimented lifestyle.
And I remember talking to my wife, and she's like, yeah, being tradie is not looked down upon.
You're like, oh, you didn't go to college.
You became a traitor, which is actually a detriment to our country because that's the point is that we've created a system of work where colleges, you know, matters.
I think you just made a tweet about this.
unidentified
About what?
elijah schaffer
That, you know, that why would you want to be a senator?
tim pool
Imagine, imagine hating your kids so much you send them to college.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, but that's my point.
But they're being treated like the civilization isn't set in its tiers.
Like that kind of work is still seen as like you're building the country.
You are, you are building the, the, the framework and a good job there is good for the nation.
The nations are very united in that way.
And so it makes sense that they would fight against COVID like this.
tim pool
There's a bunch of tall, ripped, chiseled white men who are building the country and want absolute government control and spying on all of your stuff.
sydney watson
It's weird, isn't it?
tim pool
It sounds like a bunch of Nazis to me.
sydney watson
It's really, really, really odd because on an unironic note... Look at Chris Hemsworth!
tim pool
A lot of people don't realize this.
elijah schaffer
You're jealous, Tim.
unidentified
You're jealous.
elijah schaffer
It's the Asian in you.
You'll never be a full Aryan.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
Okay.
tim pool
Jeez, dude.
unidentified
Joe took a weird turn.
elijah schaffer
I'm joking.
When you go there, I even feel like, I feel not white because they're, they're like, even the girl said like everyone there's like tall and good looking.
And I go there, I'm this like ugly little like pudgy, freckly freak.
And I like sit there, I'm like, gosh, am I falling?
I got the Irish genes.
Like those are not that good.
sydney watson
I do say this all the time, though.
I think Australian men are objectively the best.
Well, I think Australians are, as a general rule, very, very attractive.
tim pool
So, like, in Australia, Chris Hemsworth is ugly?
sydney watson
No, he's just standard.
tim pool
He's, like, below average, so they export him out to the US.
They'll like him there.
elijah schaffer
Now you know what she thinks about us.
Chris Hemsworth is standard.
Like, what does that make us?
That's sad.
sydney watson
I just, like, I look at some of the boyfriends that I had in Australia, and I, like, contrary to popular belief, I'm not, and Elijah can back this up, and I think you can back this up now too, Lyd.
Basically, like, I'm not a shallow woman.
Like, I like brains.
I want you to be smart.
elijah schaffer
You're not like other girls.
sydney watson
I'm not like other girls.
I'm quirky, okay?
But I like smart people.
I want to be challenged.
I want to, you know, someone interesting who can talk to me about... We have a picture of one of Sydney's ex-boyfriends right here.
Do we?
ian crossland
It's a Chris Hemsworth.
tim pool
You know the black and white photo of the guy who's like, chin is a... Oh my goodness.
I'm just kidding.
sydney watson
It's not a real person.
I do love a good chin.
No, but on a serious note, like I look, I think back to some of these boyfriends and I'm like, Oh my God, they're actually like very handsome people.
Like unironically, just like normally handsome people because Aussies are attractive.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Other people back me up here.
I think Aussies are hot.
ian crossland
Sounds like they're inbred.
I mean, to a point.
If they're not allowing the boat people in.
Part of why we're so beautiful as humans, you know?
sydney watson
And the tradesmen are super hot, too.
Like, tradies are so hot, and they wear these, like, little, little, um, they wear their little short shorts, which I love, and they wear their little boots, which look really cute, with their little, like, you know, high-vis stuff, and I'm like, oh god.
elijah schaffer
The temperature's rising in here.
ian crossland
You know what?
sydney watson
I've been single a long time, guys.
ian crossland
It sounds like Australia is missing a storyteller, a people that want to be storytellers, and the America is overrun with people that want to be storytellers.
sydney watson
We don't want your storytellers though, you can keep them.
ian crossland
Right, like it's an important role in society, a job even you could say as an actor, you know, they're highly paid musicians, just the shaman that would tell the tribe, but we don't need a hundred million storytellers, you know, you just need really good ones at the top and it's such a small group of like You know, people want it.
It's like this exclusive group that people all want to do.
And so they're sitting around lazily waiting to get their chance or to get their viral video that now they get to be this way.
tim pool
No, Ian, I think you fundamentally don't understand industry in the United States.
Like the overwhelming majority of movies and music are small businesses.
I don't know, you said you were an actor before, but I don't understand how you're not aware of the fact that most films are small films no one ever sees.
Because they'll get like a thousand viewers.
I know tons of people in Chicago who would do short films, and it would be at a small theater in Chicago to a thousand people over a weekend, and that was the end of the film.
And those are jobs people are getting paid hundreds of dollars to do, and they would have budgets of like five to ten thousand dollars, and they would film for a day or two.
ian crossland
Right, because if someone wanted to be a storyteller, they would just start telling stories on the internet.
They would make a short film, a low-budget film.
Instead, people maybe, they want the fame, they want to be the storyteller, they want everyone to listen.
But a lot of those people don't make it.
Because if you tell a story to a dark closet, you know, what's the point of the story, really?
tim pool
A lot of those people won't make it because they're chasing the wrong thing.
What makes you famous is your passion for what you're doing.
And I'll give you an example.
I was once doing this voter registration thing at a Death Cab for Cutie concert.
And they're like, you know, this indie band.
I don't really know what they've been doing this past decade or whatever.
But I saw the band hanging out backstage and I asked them, I was like, do you have any advice for making it music?
And, uh, the guitarist said, just keep playing music.
Because one of the things that happens is everyone around you just quits.
They eventually give up, they quit, they stop playing, and then eventually you look around and realize you're the only one left, and you've got this big back catalog of all the music you've produced, and a lot of people are familiar with it now because, you know, everyone else is gone.
And I was like, oh wow.
I'm paraphrasing because it was the gist of the conversation.
And it's like, if you stay true to what you believe in and you're playing music and you're doing what you love, eventually you're getting better at it every day, you're producing a lot of it, more and more people start to see it, and the people who don't really want it are like, I just want to be famous, and they start quitting.
And then eventually it's like, five, ten years later, and people are like, oh yeah, I've seen that band before, they're really good, and they're sharing your stuff every single day, someone's playing your song, someone's hearing it.
So that's true for like, most things.
sydney watson
You know it's funny though because I think that that actually applies to the job that I guess we all do in a sense because I feel like there's a lot of people out there who look at this and think I could do that and really I mean anybody who could if you're, you know, if you're well-spoken, if you're well-read, if you will take the time to look into politics and all that sort of fun stuff.
And I think what bothers me a little bit, and sorry to derail this, but I just think this is a decent caveat to what you're saying.
There's a lot of people who get into it wanting to be famous, which I think that's the worst reason to start doing political commentary, to be completely frank with you, because it's not easy.
You really have to be on top of it.
And all credit to you, actually, Tim, and I'm not blowing smoke up your butt, but you're on top of this stuff.
It's like you live and breathe, and you're like a little swamp creature that's surrounded by all your news articles, you know?
tim pool
Yeah, I have like a nest of like newspapers that I gather and you just
elijah schaffer
Standard normal and she called you a swamp creature Your audience is gonna be like never bring this girl back
sydney watson
It does bother me there how people are like, oh I want to be famous
I'm gonna be a political commentator and it's like well Take a run like a red-hot crack at it. Take a run at it
fine. I don't know about that. Well, they do I I know plenty of people who try.
tim pool
That's the stupidest idea, you know what I mean?
sydney watson
That's what I think, too.
It's not easy.
You get a lot of hate mail.
elijah schaffer
That's the dumbest idea.
tim pool
Wanting to be a political commentator to be famous?
elijah schaffer
But around Trump time, it became cool, because that's the whole point.
I'm not going to call people out by name here, but it became not just like a grift thing, but it was like, for the first time, politics is Hollywood for ugly people.
And so for the first time now, you have a movie star.
I mean, we had Reagan, but you have this sort of television personality that's got this big personality about fame and kind of out there, and it's all about the shows and going to the convention centers and going to all the speeches.
And so this whole sub-tier, you know, all these nonprofits develop.
And all these people, because of social media, could put MAGA in their name, could do anything for Trump.
And it was seen as like counterculture and cool.
And because of algorithms, you could get this following.
And so you could be anything with MAGA and you could be cool.
And so the problem with that is, is that it became about celebrity.
And so our side became very much that you actually could be cool and could make money and could get ahead without having any bright ideas or any ability to make an argument.
tim pool
But everybody hates you.
And I don't mean everybody, I just mean, like, you put yourself in a position where a lot of people will despise you.
elijah schaffer
Not in the algorithm, though, because the algorithms used to work that you would think that everyone liked you, because you're like, oh!
tim pool
That's why I'm saying it's stupid, you know, for the people who didn't see what was happening.
That's why you have so many of these YouTubers who are, like, on the right, and all of a sudden they're like, actually, I'm on the left!
And now they're just, like, saying stupid establishment talking points that don't make sense to try and pretend to not be conservative, because they realize, like, hey, wait a minute, All of the big money, big tech, big Hollywood, yeah, they're banning people who have these opinions and they're funding people who have the other opinions and all of a sudden they found themselves on the other side of those opinions.
Because, look, you want to be famous on the internet and you're willing to put the work in?
I don't know, play Fortnite or Minecraft or whatever the kids are playing these days.
elijah schaffer
Make more money too.
tim pool
Yeah, it's absurd.
You go to Twitch, and you look at the 100,000 concurrent viewers that someone's getting from playing some video game and talking about drama stuff, and sure, you still get haters.
You will.
But you can see there's a lot of celebrities, there's a lot of actors and actresses and musicians who make all the money in the world, if you're willing to put the work in, and everybody just is like, oh, they're pretty cool people.
Like Keanu Reeves.
Who hates Keanu Reeves?
Like nobody hates him.
elijah schaffer
I want to know the names because I'm coming for you.
tim pool
Give me the list.
Right, everybody loves the guy.
It's like he's a he's a cool dude.
He minds his own business and he doesn't even hover hands.
And yeah, he doesn't want to offend anybody.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, he hover hands woman.
He knows so that he knows the game so much, but he knows what he's in.
But like, but what you were saying, there was a lot of people do want to do this.
And that's the problem.
Because it's not their passion.
So not bringing new to the table.
That's why they fizz out.
Because eventually people get tired of you.
sydney watson
I think people look at it objectively and they go, that looks easy.
I can do that.
Not realizing how much time, effort, energy goes into it.
Not just even on like, just for example, I said to my mom recently, because she's just dying of just sadness in Melbourne at the moment, just under lockdown and everything.
And she's having, my whole family is having a hard time, especially, especially my mom.
And so I said to her, because I wanted to give her something to do.
I was like, hey, I could make videos a lot quicker if I had someone helping me do all the research, because I'm a one man band.
I do everything myself.
And so I say, would you mind helping me?
My mom is a very, very intelligent woman.
I thought that might be something that would occupy her brain while she's
dying in bloody lockdown.
So she says, yes, of course.
And so she starts helping me a little bit with researching.
And then she says, Sydney, I actually didn't realize how difficult this is, how you have
to find qualitative sources, how you have to read just so much
information, even just to get to the kernel of what you needed
to go into this part of the video and this, that, and the other.
And I said, yeah, it's not like you just wake up and go, I'm here to video, and then just jot something down
jump in front of the- hang on, Sydney, no, it's like it's this whole in-depth thing.
So what you find is that, and I'm sure that you guys have seen this too, and I'm sure you can think of- You guys.
unidentified
You guys.
sydney watson
I can't speak English.
I'm sure you guys have seen this too, and you can probably think of people off the top of your head as well who've done this, but they come onto the scene, they go, this is easy, I can do it too, which is again, fine, take a running red hot crack at it.
The more people who can support right-wing ideology or, you know, moderate ideology, whatever, fine.
I'm happy with that.
And then they fizzle out because they find it's not easy.
It's not easy.
And that's why TikTokers make me so cross.
Turn the sound off and they're just doing this.
ian crossland
I've also seen people say like, I can do that.
And then they do it and they win.
And that was Phil DeFranco.
In the very beginning, I was making YouTube videos and he started and he was like, didn't know what he was doing.
But he watched me and was like, this guy's not good at what he's doing.
I can do that better.
And then he did.
He said that he saw people doing it poorly and he knew he could do it better.
I think he was talking about me and maybe other people, too.
elijah schaffer
That is the move, too, is that it's like, well, if most of this stuff is bad, I could at least do bad.
ian crossland
I was trash.
No research.
I was getting stoned.
I would make videos whenever I felt like it.
sydney watson
Did you have pants on?
And how many cows were around you?
unidentified
Sometimes.
ian crossland
No shirts.
Yeah, no cows.
It was terrifying.
tim pool
You know what the secret is, though?
It was raw.
There's one big secret to success outside of everything we've ever talked about.
They say perseverance, right?
But there's actually one big secret, and it's good memory.
So, you know, I suggest people do memory games, memory workouts, because if you have quick recall, that's how you become witty.
That's how you're able to connect the dots and find points that other people haven't considered.
So, if you see a news story where they're like, you know, the cow jumps over the fence, and you're like, hey wait, three weeks ago, they built that fence to stop cows from jumping over the fence, and the cow was able to just jump over it anyway, yo, that was a waste of money.
Then you have, hey guys, they wasted, you know, a hundred bucks on building this fence, because remember last week?
If you can't, if you have a terrible memory, and a lot of people don't have, you know, good recall, then...
ian crossland
And you've got to have a bunch of memories at once so you can remember a bunch of things at the same time.
unidentified
And connect all the dots.
ian crossland
And then they all form like a giant over-memory that you can pick different, you can see like contingencies and, you know, angles.
It makes other things context.
tim pool
And you've got to be able to recall quickly.
A lot of, you know, a lot of videos are, people will just edit them, you know.
They'll be talking and they'll stop and they'll look at their notes and they'll start talking again.
And that's, I think, what most people do.
Some people can't even do that.
Because I've tried, you know, giving people advice and they're like, man, I don't know how to do this.
And I just, I just talk.
sydney watson
I don't know.
tim pool
I don't have any notes.
Like, I have like the news stories and I'll read them.
sydney watson
That's again, because you're like, I feel bad for saying it, but you're your swampy creature with all your little articles around you.
tim pool
Yeah, I've got all the... I take physical newspapers and I... Rub them all over yourself.
No, no, no.
I crumple them up into a nest and then I roll on the ground on my side and I scrape the dirt over my body like a chicken.
unidentified
Like a chicken.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, I can attest to that.
You know that before, people wonder if this is like a cult or whatever, and I'll tell you, the first time that I came in here, they literally did make me pick my favorite news article, they printed it out, they grounded it down literally into like a pooky pipe, and they made me smoke it like a coke.
tim pool
This is absurd.
The only thing that actually happened when Elijah first showed up is that we sat at the table and we chanted Gooble Gobble over and over again.
unidentified
We said Trump James 7 time in the mirror.
sydney watson
And they branded you and that was that.
elijah schaffer
You were part of the club.
sydney watson
Now when they all stand in a line, you can actually, the branding spells something.
That's very good.
lydia smith
Clever, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, nobody actually lives in, there's like three people who actually live in this house.
sydney watson
Yeah, you drive up, you know, it's funny when people ask, they're like, oh, what's Tim's like?
I'm like, a compound?
tim pool
But would you call it a compound if it was the exact same thing, but like in the middle of Chicago?
sydney watson
I would not.
I would call that, that's abject sadness.
tim pool
Abject sadness?
sydney watson
If you were in Chicago.
elijah schaffer
There's a cow outside, I don't know what that's about.
tim pool
There's no cow.
ian crossland
I would get a cow though, that'd be cool.
tim pool
There's chickens outside.
sydney watson
Yeah, exactly.
You guys have got cats too, don't you?
unidentified
Cat.
ian crossland
One cat.
Maybe some goats.
I heard goats being tossed around.
Not literally tossed around.
sydney watson
Goats are so cute.
ian crossland
Yeah, little goats, the pygmy goats.
They jump on the backs of things.
So cute.
Yeah, yeah, I want to get... Maybe if I eat a bunch.
sydney watson
Oh my goodness, I was walking, total, this is so not politically orientated, but I was on a walk with my new puppy.
I just got a puppy, he's the cutest thing in the world.
And I'm like waddling along on this like walking track and I look up to the side and there's a bloody pig.
Someone has a bloody pig in their backyard.
unidentified
Whoa, why was it bloody?
tim pool
What did they do to it?
unidentified
Just, you don't want to know.
tim pool
A bloody pig.
ian crossland
Was it like a pot-bellied pig?
sydney watson
It was just this like cute little piggy, I don't know.
It was just pink.
tim pool
Was it doing pig stuff?
lydia smith
Yeah, it was doing pig stuff.
unidentified
On a side note with what you were saying though, bringing it back, I don't know what we're talking about.
sydney watson
I don't know why anyone let me in the room, honestly.
elijah schaffer
But what's interesting though about that with the culture and society is that I've also seen that there's not this huge desire to change or to have progress, like the progressive movement happens in the United States, which is why the politics is also not that interesting in Australia.
People are not as tuned in, and the people that are follow American politics.
This is the weirdest thing to me, is I've watched, I mean, there's a significant, about 5%, but considering there are less people in all of the nation of Australia than there are just in the state of California, to find that 5% of an audience, of a sizable audience, is from Australia from what I watch.
I'm sure you guys have a decent amount of Australian audience as well and the time zones and everything it's crazy but it's because they're interested because there's something different about our nation where things can change.
People really do have the power to change their country.
We really do have the ability to take control of ourselves and a lot of people in Australia realize that they don't really have the power to change things.
They don't feel that innate also a dedication to their country like a lot of people don't.
We're starting to see this here, but before it even happened here, like it was seen as a little bit bogan to
maybe fly an Australian flag unless it was a government building or something.
sydney watson
People are not just flying it.
For Americans, bogan is um, like a redneck.
No, you're using more Australian words to describe an Australian word.
So dero is derelict, but you would say like, oh you dero for someone that's like, ehh.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, white trashy kind of thing.
sydney watson
Bogan is like those people that wear flip-flops with sweatpants, or as we call them, tracky-dacks.
tim pool
What's that British word that they've been calling?
sydney watson
That's so specific to him.
unidentified
The C word?
No, no, no.
tim pool
They call white middle-aged men.
sydney watson
Chav?
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
It's a reference to meat.
elijah schaffer
I love that word.
tim pool
It's a reference to meat.
lydia smith
Gammon.
tim pool
Gammon.
lydia smith
That means ham.
tim pool
Yeah, ham.
sydney watson
There you go.
Australian England have some really, really fun slang.
elijah schaffer
Teach us.
lydia smith
I think you're just making it up at this point.
tim pool
No, you're gonna say something bad, aren't you?
unidentified
No.
Never.
sydney watson
You already trust me.
You should trust me, Timothy.
tim pool
You're already swearing.
lydia smith
Yeah, come on, man.
elijah schaffer
She's blushing.
ian crossland
What's the most topically sensitive slang?
sydney watson
Topically sensitive?
elijah schaffer
I'm going for it.
ian crossland
Yeah, yeah.
sydney watson
TV friendly.
Well, you gotta give me some, like, more context.
ian crossland
Like angry.
tim pool
Like a bad word for politicians.
sydney watson
I don't know if many Aussies who are watching this would agree, but I like the word flog.
Like when you call someone a deadset flog.
I think that's very Melbourne though.
But insults are definitely dependent upon which area you're in.
So, flog is a good one.
You can call someone a derro, that's also a good one.
You can also just say the C word, that's also quite fun.
lydia smith
Common, I hear.
sydney watson
Very common, yes.
unidentified
Not in America.
sydney watson
Very common.
Oh, I was getting food the other day.
Well, actually liquor the other day.
And when I was in the shop and I started speaking and the gentleman who was helping me basically said, oh, where are you from?
And I said, oh, I'm from Australia.
He goes, oh, you guys use the C word.
We actually said it.
He didn't say the C word.
He physically said the actual word.
And he goes, you say this all the time.
And I said, yeah, I suppose we do.
And he goes, oh, yeah.
And so he's back and forth.
And as I'm leaving, he goes, all right, see ya.
C word.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
And all these people in the store go, I'm like, yeah, catch you, mate.
sydney watson
Have a good one.
elijah schaffer
But that isn't a bad thing to say.
unidentified
He called me, he called me, you know, a currant.
ian crossland
Oh, you're so happy about it.
elijah schaffer
They curse so much.
I'll tell you this.
When I first met my wife in Australia, I probably hadn't cursed regularly in my language for years since I was a young, a very young adult or like teenager.
It had completely left my language.
To the point where my wife would say things that I'd be like, baby, you, you can't say that.
That's just, that's, that's a horrifying thing to say.
And now I swear, like, I've never been in the military, but you would think I had like seven years on the high seas or whatever.
sydney watson
And then you were around me all the time.
And I swear, like a trooper.
elijah schaffer
And it comes up, people are like, oh, Elijah curses.
And like, why do you curse?
And I'm like, I just hang around Australians.
And nobody thinks, no one uses that phrase.
Oh, you curse.
That's such an American thing.
Like, oh, you curse.
It's just, that's called Australian English.
tim pool
Can you set our viewers straight on this one?
You guys love Fosters.
sydney watson
Brandon, my new producer, is going like this in the background.
You know what?
No, Timothy.
No.
Incorrect.
I was going to back you up for a second.
Fact check.
unidentified
Lie.
sydney watson
Fact check.
Incorrect.
So, no.
The first time I ever had Fosters, I was in London and it's because someone said to me, you guys drink, you drink Fosters.
And I was like, no, we don't.
And then, you know, I've never, it's not, we don't make it in Australia.
We drink VB.
Well, I don't, but Aussies drink VB.
tim pool
Why are you lying to everybody?
elijah schaffer
Isn't Foster's made in the UK?
sydney watson
I'm pretty sure it is.
I'm pretty sure it is.
Tim, have you ever had a Foster's?
tim pool
I'm pretty sure a Foster's is Australian for beer.
elijah schaffer
Isn't Dos Equis also American?
tim pool
Probably.
elijah schaffer
I think it's Miss Interpolated that it's actually from Australia because of the commercials.
tim pool
Doesn't that mean two X's?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, everybody knows three X's is better.
elijah schaffer
I make one as edgy joke, everyone gets turned off.
And here we are.
Here we are, Swapman.
ian crossland
I got a question.
This is an off-topic, but I'm taking us back off-topic.
tim pool
Everything's off-topic!
Like we were talking earlier about... Ever since Ian said putting his finger in the cow's mouth... Which, by the way, I think you can put two fingers in it.
elijah schaffer
I pictured it!
That's why I feel dirty!
ian crossland
You said triple X, and we got the finger, and I just... It's like a baby with their nipple that they... So, a baby with a nipple thing that they suck on.
Do you guys think that we're entering a period where, you know you say a foreign nation needs to aid a country's revolution, and that's been basically historically what's happened, that Canada and Australia are going to require some sort of revolution and that they're going to need American support?
tim pool
Are you saying, do you think the United States will invade Canada?
ian crossland
No, not an invasion at all, but like the French supported arms and money to the Americans for the first, before the revolution, for two years.
tim pool
Well, let's be real.
I mean, Canada's got a lot of oil.
sydney watson
I don't know if Aussies would ever... They got a lot of oil.
tim pool
You know, America loves that oil.
ian crossland
Australia's far away.
Canada's like the same country, pretty much.
sydney watson
It's terrifying.
Canada needs to be liberated at this point.
I feel bad for the Canadians.
tim pool
I wonder what a poll would say if you asked Canadians if they'd be willing to join the United States.
I'm not saying it to imply Canadians would.
I'd be interested to see what... I imagine there'd be a small percentage, particularly among a lot of the more border cities.
They'd probably be like, yeah, sure, why not?
But I'd imagine most people would be like, no.
And most people probably like what's happening in their country.
No joke.
I know a lot of Canadians.
The reason these things happen in these countries is because the people either tolerate it, Or enjoy it.
In the United States, we're going through conflict because the red states and the blue states are so dramatically different from each other that Texas is like, we're not locking down, no mask mandates, and people are suing in the courts, and Florida's like, we're open, and New York is like, full-on fascist lockdown, no medical exemptions.
Canada's just like, straight lockdown.
Australia's just like, lock them up!
So the people there tolerate or like it.
In the United States, you have a mixed bag of conflict.
sydney watson
Well, it's because when they try to do something about it, they're arrested in droves.
And when they do, and like, this is the thing, right?
And Aussies get so cranky when you bring this up.
And I dare say the Canadians do too, but this is what you have with a disarmed population.
And I'm not even going down the gun road.
I'm just simply saying that when you have a population that is unable to defend itself in any capacity,
which you are in Australia for people who don't know, the list of prohibited weapons,
even where I'm from is so bloody long.
And there's so many things you can't have, You can't even have a handcuffs.
You can't have body armor.
There's, there's, yeah, mace.
Mace is banned.
You can't have basically... A gas mask?
You can't have non-lethal weapons in any capacity.
And the thing is... Well, I mean, the thing is that a lot of people don't realize that Aussies, when they go into these situations, for example, if you look up the footage of people in Melbourne, just for example, protesting these anti-lockdown protests, and these police are shooting at them, these rubber bullets, and they're capsicum spraying them, and they're chucking tear gas into the crowds and what have you.
These are people who don't have anything.
They can't defend themselves.
tim pool
It's not an issue of a disarmed population.
I think you have to go to the root of that, because even in the United States, for the most part, Antifa's not showing up to protests with AR-15s and firing them at cops or anything.
Though we have seen an escalation in this.
We've seen Antifa pointing guns at pedestrians and cars and stuff.
The people of Australia and Canada are disarmed, but mentally, not physically.
So a right that is not exercised is a right that is eventually lost.
What allowed the people of Australia and Canada to enter a position where they have no way to defend themselves?
It is not about the fact the government came and took all their guns.
It's about the people letting them do it in the first place.
We'll put it this way.
Imagine the will of the people as a giant 30-foot concrete wall from sea to shining sea built by Donald Trump.
And over the years, as more and more damage is done to it, eventually it's eroding and it's crumpled, and then it just collapses.
And they say, if only we had a wall, you know, we used to have one, if only we had one now, that would stop everything.
It's like, no, no, no, there's no will.
There was a will to repair that wall.
The people who are standing up and saying, I resist this, that's the level of willpower.
And over time, in Australia and Canada, the willpower decreased and decreased and decreased, and people became comfortable, and they became fat and lazy, and now, there's no willpower at all to resist.
The reason why the Second Amendment is so important in this country is not because armed Americans are gonna go march through the streets and seize City Hall or anything like that.
That's, I don't see happening, especially in this day and age.
It's that the police can't serve warrants unless they do it properly.
The police can't just kick your door in unless they get the proper warrant.
Because you'll look at, this is a very important one, Breonna Taylor, in the Breonna Taylor case, Breonna Taylor's boyfriend fired at the cops Who busted the door down and that dude was cleared of any wrongdoing.
And so the cops in the U.S.
know we gotta be real careful in Australia and Canada.
You see these videos out of Canada where they kick the door in and they're like, there's six people in here!
And the old guy's screaming and they're dragging him out.
They wouldn't do that here.
sydney watson
Yeah, but that's the thing.
tim pool
New York they would.
sydney watson
I suppose this is what I'm getting at though, and just to qualify my position, I agree with you.
I think a lot of Aussies, Canadians too, are definitely beaten down mentally and they definitely have completely and utterly, they've resigned themselves mentally for sure.
I totally agree with that sentiment.
Something I really dislike about my homeland is that sentiment precisely.
However, police would bloody think twice before ripping you down onto the ground and trying to handcuff you or shove things into your face or whatever they're doing in these videos that are coming out of Australia.
They would think twice if they thought that there was a potential that you were armed in any capacity and that you might actually fight back.
tim pool
Yes.
sydney watson
Because you can't have a system where the population is basically subservient to the police force.
You can't have that.
It shouldn't be that way.
That's not how this works.
And Australia doesn't have the same issues with crime, say, that the United States has.
Because obviously your demographics are very different.
The way that your country is, I guess, made up is very different.
So Australia doesn't have any of these issues.
And the mentality of Aussies is very different.
There's things about Australia that's wonderful mentality-wise.
There's things that definitely suck.
Um, but one of the biggest things is that Aussies do believe that the police force is basically there to protect them.
They don't in any capacity, I would say, see them as an enemy.
Whereas here, people are very skeptical of the police.
So when they do pull them down onto the ground, they're not actually expecting that to happen in the first place.
So the, the mentality towards having a gun actually isn't even there.
So yeah, what you're, what you're saying is totally correct, Tim.
But that's part of the problem.
tim pool
So, so, you know, hearing this, I wonder, can like Australians actually survive in their own countries outside of cities?
sydney watson
Yes.
Because people outside of the cities aren't... You know how there's a big difference between city people and country people the world over?
unidentified
Same thing there.
sydney watson
Yes.
So my dad, for example, from the country, he's this bumpkin human who's the best person in the world, but definitely like, oh, she'll be right.
You know, I've grown up with my guns.
Let's go kill some foxes.
Let's go kill some rabbits.
He's one of those kind of people.
And he is just, nah, I'm not doing it.
Nah, I'm not gonna put the mask on, nah, I'm good, thanks, leave me alone.
And that's how people outside of the cities are.
It's people in Melbourne city, it's people in Sydney, it's people in Brisbane, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, that are like, oh, yes, daddy, government, get me out of here.
tim pool
Is it only this bad in these key areas?
Yes.
Or is it widespread?
Because New South Wales is in total lockdown, isn't it?
sydney watson
Yes, but yes.
Yes.
tim pool
I had a map and it showed the outline of their states, are they called?
And it was all red.
And you could highlight each and every jurisdiction that was like, can't leave your house, can't leave your house.
sydney watson
Yeah, they're all subjected to the same stuff.
elijah schaffer
This is where they're different there and why they're getting away with it, though.
This is why they're getting away with it.
This is the key thing.
So in the United States, you're going to find a big difference between police forces in the inner city versus in the country.
A huge difference.
We already even have sheriff versus police, etc.
So, there's something very important that police have in general, even in Australia, which is this rule of necessary discretion.
They can call it different things around the countries, but this is the same rule, where you don't necessarily have to prosecute or charge everybody or write the same ticket for everybody that commits the same crime.
A good example is speeding.
If you have a good explanation, just like here in Australia, they could not give you a ticket because it's necessary discretion.
You might've been going to your wife's.
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
sydney watson
It gets recorded and sent back to a major database.
So in Australia, they're probably going to give you a ticket.
elijah schaffer
Yes, you probably will.
But I'm saying still, you could have been like, oh shoot.
Yeah.
Like there was an emergency.
Their leg was bleeding.
That we're not going to give you a ticket.
We're going to go.
We're going to go.
tim pool
I bit my finger off.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
Well, yeah, exactly.
So no, but I'm saying, but meaning you can say, okay, a law was broken, but I, this
makes sense, so we're going to overlook this.
What's interesting is, is that here, if you go out, you know, outside of the
cities, you're also going to find a lot more, I mean, traditional where like
people might even know the shit, the town sheriff, or, you know, they might
even understand this is just the town drunk and this is that, or whatever it
is, this has changed as we've advanced.
The problem in Australia is that they still keep necessary discretion with every type of law, but they've removed that
from all COVID restrictions across all jurisdictions, even in the boonies
and in the main city.
So that's created as a unilateral enforcement where you do not and cannot use your own discretion when enforcing things.
This is important because I know plenty of good people that serve in the police force out there.
There are.
Before you start saying that all Australian police are horrible, Michael Mao says there's no good police.
tim pool
Well, he's right about the Australian cops, that's for sure.
elijah schaffer
But not all of them are enforcing this.
The problem is, though, is that because of this necessary discretion, what they've done to the police is that if you do not, let's say, give someone a ticket for not wearing a mask, you then could get in trouble yourself.
So they've created this totalitarian Gestapo in there.
tim pool
No, no, no, they haven't.
elijah schaffer
Well, they have, meaning they've changed what policing means in the country.
sydney watson
No, they weren't always that way, to be fair.
They're always going to give you attention.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Come on.
The responsibility is always with the individual.
I'm not a fan of this argument where it's like, oh, those poor cops who are enforcing the Gestapo's laws.
elijah schaffer
I'm not defending them.
I'm saying that people who may have been a cop before who were thinking I could be a good guy
have been pushed into a corner to where when it comes to COVID stuff,
the policing, what it means, you could have been in the service for 20 years.
Yes, they're complete dicks.
They have speed traps that are horrible.
They go into residential neighborhoods, try to get you going one mile over the speed limit
in unmarked cars that don't look like cop cars.
sydney watson
They randomly breathalyze you.
elijah schaffer
Yes, they're horrifying.
But I'm saying that as you went out into, as you go out, sometimes the people were
a little more chill, a little more relaxed.
sydney watson
They're a lot nicer in the country.
elijah schaffer
They found a way to get a hold of the nicer police, the more relaxed police,
to creating a more nationalized police enforcement.
sydney watson
So that's where we're at.
tim pool
I don't care what any politician says.
It's the cop, the individual, who is the bad guy, who is the villain.
They should absolutely quit, resign, immediately slam their bags on the table.
Imagine, to what degree, and when we keep saying, it's just, it's just, it's just this, it's just that.
It's just 15 days.
It's just a month.
It's just a mask.
It's just two masks.
It's just one shot.
It's just two.
It's just three.
It's just every five months.
You keep doing that and these cops are just like, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure.
Because they have no principles and they're bad people.
They were never good people.
Because a good person and the good cops, they email me, they're like, I quit as soon as they did this.
I said, I can't do that.
That's a violation of the Constitution.
And they said, you do it or it's your badge.
And I said, here's my badge.
But the people who remain, like in Australia, who are like, I was once a good cop, but then the government told me to do it.
So I said, okay.
elijah schaffer
But a lot of them aren't doing it because they're finding ways out of doing COVID enforcement.
tim pool
Then good for them.
They're good cops.
Or at least to a certain degree, they're better.
I'll tell you where I disagree with Michael Malice.
He says there's no good cop.
Michael says that there is no, I want to, I'll paraphrase, I can't quote him.
cops are bad people. He said there is no you know action so depraved that a
unidentified
Whoa.
tim pool
police officer would not do it if ordered up into up and in to executing
children something that effect I do not agree with Michael Malice and again I
like him and I may be getting the quote wrong so but he has said like every cop
is a criminal no I think there are a lot of cops that I've actually talked to and
interacted with who are like I resigned last week because of they wanted to do
They wanted me to do this, I said, I will not do it.
elijah schaffer
The Seattle Police Chief, right, did the same thing, where she was just like, I'm not, this is ridiculous, I can't do my job, so I'm resigning.
tim pool
But, I wouldn't say that the Seattle Police Chief is a good person in my opinion, based on a lot of what happened.
elijah schaffer
Carmen Best.
tim pool
But, right, but, but, but, I do believe that if you ordered a cop to do something in the United States, a lot of cops would be like, yo, I can't do that, and they'd freak out.
A lot of cops would probably do it.
In Australia, I am more inclined to agree with the general premise of Michael Malice's quote because They're locking down literally everything, and only based on the way you're describing it.
They're willing to just enforce whatever.
elijah schaffer
Incitement.
These weird policies.
tim pool
Watching them beat that woman because she was wearing a mask, and she's like, I have a mask exemption, and he's like, I don't care.
sydney watson
Timothy, they pepper sprayed a child in the face the other day.
tim pool
For real.
Welcome to your Gestapo.
sydney watson
I mean...
I feel bad right because truthfully I do feel bad because I know a handful of cops back home that are good people that are friends of mine that are hating all of this and they're trying not to participate as much as they can and it makes me sad because um I never was one of those people that hated the cops I was always one of those people that would defend them because I think there is a mild um I guess people in Australia do somewhat I obviously don't want to generalize here but you know from what friends and things have said They haven't liked the police historically and now their hatred for the police is bubbling over because of what they've been doing to people.
tim pool
You know what Australia needs?
sydney watson
What?
tim pool
Some kind of like organized group.
sydney watson
An exorcism?
tim pool
Of activists who oppose the like overt fascistic tendencies.
Maybe like a group that opposes fascism like an anti-fascist group.
We'll call it Antifa.
Does Australia have any kind of like Antifa that could oppose the authoritarian lockdowns?
sydney watson
I'm just, I'm thinking that maybe if they got together and congregated, maybe we need a Donald Trump in Australia to like kick that off, you know?
Just to trigger some people in black outfits running around smashing... They have Antifa!
elijah schaffer
For sure in Australia.
I've seen them.
tim pool
Did you see the Antifa people?
sydney watson
Oh, there's Antifa there.
I know.
They've come to events of mine and like... Extinction Rebellion has been there too.
tim pool
Have you guys seen the video of the Antifa people attacking the group that opposed state mandates?
Mass mandates?
sydney watson
Yes.
tim pool
Antifa shows up and they start... They're anti-fascist, but they're pro-state.
They're statists.
And that's why I keep telling people, like, do not call Antifa anarchists.
They are not anarchists.
They're communists.
Absolutely.
They're communists, they're authoritarians, and they're actual fascists, some of them.
David Graeber, the late David Graeber, said that there's an element of the left that has adopted the fascistic ethos of, well, the fascistic tendencies.
Not to say that they are fascists in the academic sense, or they are Nazis, but they certainly believe a lot of the exact same things around, and that was the extent of his Twitter thread, but they do believe these things to the extent of identitarianism.
government power and control to the point where they'll be like we oppose fascism and we'll beat back
regular Americans who are upset with government and corporate power
Like in DC when a bunch of conservatives got together and said we oppose corporate power and centralization
So antifa showed up start beating people It's like dude, if you're if you're beating people in
defense of corporations and the state you're a fascist Yeah, but hey
elijah schaffer
This is who the Joker targets.
Haven't you ever seen Dark Knight?
Physiognomy check have you seen a lot of them? They're deformed looking and it's so sad because it really is true
tim pool
The rest is who the Joker targets haven't you ever seen Dark Knight? Yeah, they go
This ideology targets people who are desperate and unwell And so yes use what you look at a lot of these anti-we've
not every single one of them but a lot of them and they're they're dejected antisocial
and And unwell in a lot of ways and so they're attracted to a
violent Dogmatic mob they're not fighting for anything other than
they feel pain and they want to cause pain They look sick.
elijah schaffer
You know who Jason Charter is?
Jason Charter is the Antifa organizer in DC that- Did he get arrested?
Yeah, he was getting charged for two decades worth of jail time simply because he tried to pull down the Andrew Jackson statue and organize the siege on the White House, but that's what they're alleging.
tim pool
The insurrection.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, well, exactly.
tim pool
That forced the president into the bunker.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, the insurrection on the actual White House.
I've spoken to him.
I've had him on my show before, too, and it's interesting because when you speak to him, you know, he's disabled.
I'm not being rude.
He's just got a gaunt looking.
People think he looks a little bit like maybe he's on chemo or something like that.
He's pansexual.
He said this on my show.
And it's really, I kind of actually felt bad for a second because what I realized is that At a certain era or time in a different world, this guy probably could have just been like this guy that would have been rejected from society, but now someone gave him the chance to fight back and tear down the regime, to tear down the statue, to be known for something, and he fell into this trap.
I believe he fell into this trap.
I don't believe he's strong-willed or strong-minded.
He fell into this trap, and now he believes he's like a martyr when really he's just like a terrorist, and that's kind of the funny thing.
He's actually just a terrorist.
tim pool
In the past, someone would have helped him.
elijah schaffer
That's what I'm saying.
tim pool
Instead, they enable.
elijah schaffer
But I'm saying like, they could like help him with some programs and get, and get, find meaning in life and some counseling and get his brain intact.
But there's this, instead of helping the weak, like you're saying, it's a society that preys on the weak.
And what used to either help or destroy is now about taking advantage of weak people to carry out their deeds.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
And that's what we're seeing now too, even with the COVID stuff is it's all about preying on the minds of the weak.
And I want to say, this is so important, but Kez brought this up about Australia because of, of the rhetoric coming out of Dan Andrews and, and of Berjiklian.
I don't know how you say it.
sydney watson
Berejiklian.
elijah schaffer
Berejiklian, the premier of New South Wales.
sydney watson
Gladys.
elijah schaffer
We see this here in a lesser extent.
But what the premiers are saying is, they make you be obedient, and then they change the goalposts and reimpose the restrictions, and then tell you you have to do a little bit more obedience to get the restrictions removed.
And then they remove the restrictions, and then they add them again.
And then at a certain point they started saying, this is how the rhetoric went.
The you who are obedient.
This sounds like a regime.
You who are obedient.
The reason why you are unable to finally break out of this constant cycle of lockdown and totalitarianism is because the unvaccinated, the disobedient, are keeping you locked down.
And you capitulated.
You gave in.
Many of you compromised.
You got the vaccine when you didn't want to get it.
You put on a mask when you didn't want to put it on.
You agreed with lockdowns when you didn't think they were right.
You held your kids from school.
And you know what's happening?
Because of this small group of people who are still resistant, you have to be punished again.
And their resistance isn't just affecting them, it's affecting you.
And it's splitting the population against the subservient and those who are independent.
And they're creating this weak group of people who are more and more capitulating and more and more are giving in to hate the people, thinking that it's the unvaccinated that are causing the problems, but it's the government who are causing them.
So it's getting that it's deflecting Off the government.
It's like, no, the government is causing the issues.
They're the ones locking you down.
They're the ones ruining your life.
They're the ones instating the restrictions.
It's not the unvaccinated people that are ruining your life.
sydney watson
It's kind of weird because, like, I agree with you to an extent, but just looking at the things that, again, I have, like, all my friends and family, a ton of them are in Australia, and the things that they say is stuff like, it's not that hard to wear a mask, just wear a mask.
And it's like, These are people who are conservative, or at least, like, who, you know, lean to the right, or who, you know, are libertarian somewhere on the right wing somewhere.
And these are people who are like, well, just wear the mask.
Like, it's not, it's not that big of a deal, because I think the problem is that, and again, I don't want to, I don't want to say mean things about Aussies, but I think that to some extent, people have a hard time connecting the dots between government overreach and how that could inevitably lead to very, very unpleasant things further down the line, which I think... Like the concentration camps.
Precisely.
I mean, and no, it's, it's, it's like, it's this, it's, it's not even an ironic thing anymore.
It's, it's like the worst thing in the world that they're building these quarantine facilities that people somehow think are normal.
And again, they're literally building one of them up the road or very, very close to where my family lives in Victoria.
And it's disturbing in a lot of ways to think about again how and I was trying to find this treat for Lydia just in case she wanted to you know pop it up on screen or something where someone had basically taken these photos of one of these quarantine facilities and said well look how nice it is look there's a pool and there are the people drinking the coffee and oh this person's sitting on a deck oh that's freaking great you can't leave though!
It's a nice bloody cage, I'll give you that, but it's still a cage.
And you're not there because you want to be, you're not there because of your own free will, you're not there because of your own volition, you're there because the government put you there, and you're defending this.
And this is the problem with Australians, again.
Aussies are great people, nicest people, wonderful people, kind people, but they are buttheads sometimes when it comes to this stuff.
And this is why I wanted to get out of the country.
tim pool
Where's Antifa?
sydney watson
They're, I don't know, sitting in their home screaming at pigeons.
tim pool
Has there been a prominent Antifa presence in Australia before?
sydney watson
Not really, they tried.
But again, Aussies are very politically ambivalent, so to actually get a group of people together who are willing to go and smash things up is actually quite challenging.
tim pool
Where's New York City, Antifa?
sydney watson
We could fly them over, maybe.
tim pool
Maybe they could, um... No, I mean, like, in New York, where they've basically said all disabled people ineligible for the vaccine will be terminated from their jobs on the 13th of September.
sydney watson
I don't know why you're asking me.
elijah schaffer
Ask Elijah.
sydney watson
He's the one who goes to all the Antifa.
elijah schaffer
Unfortunately, they're the ones thinking that and siding with the state.
They're basically some of the most easily manipulated piece of crap people that unfortunately for us... Bulldust.
sydney watson
I want to get this.
That's an Aussie phrase.
elijah schaffer
Especially for us, what they are doing is they are pushing the authoritarian mandates.
They are an extension of far left political ideology and whatever the far left is pushing
this country, they just side with.
They don't have any original thought.
They are well organized, but as of right now, they are being used to bully people and especially
what they are most being known for right now, especially is attacking anti-lockdown protests.
Even church groups.
I'm sure you guys covered that in Portland.
They're attacking prayer meetings.
They destroyed an entire ministry's office.
They're attacking Christians now because Christians are being seen as some of the few purveyors who are against this tyranny.
Who would it be said that people who believe in individual liberty and liberty to Christ would not want the government, you know, coming down on you?
The same government that also, like, burned and hung a lot of them upside down and, you know, also, like, killed Jesus.
But anyway.
tim pool
We actually need, right now, based on what we're seeing in New York, we need actual people who oppose fascism to stand up, reject this, to protest, and say no.
But I'm looking at NYC Antifa and they don't care at all.
They're cheering for the government on January 6th, all that stuff.
They're like, get them boys!
Because they're not anti-fascist, they just use that as a way to recruit stupid college students who don't know better.
sydney watson
Well, angry people too.
Something that I wanted to say actually at the beginning of this show, and we sort of got very off topic talking about cows and things, was when you were talking about this legislation where, you know, the government comes in and can put things on your phone and all of that.
I think people need to realize that in Australia especially, and I know this is the same thing here in the United States and I dare say in most Western countries around the world, but Australia has some of the most psychotic legislation pertaining to what the government can do to you, obviously.
Um, but especially towards like terrorism legislation.
So when they pass these extreme things, these extreme measures that are, you know, in response to a terror attack or, you know, COVID or whatever the case is.
Obviously we all know that they never appeal them, but I think people need to look into some, some of the terrorist legislation that exists in Australia, the anti-terror legislation.
Where like, for example, when I was doing my master degree, I did this ethics course and basically we had to learn it cause it was my master's in journalism.
We had to learn about like ethics and you know, where the social contract and all this fun stuff.
And they were talking to us about how if you accidentally stumble upon information relating to some of this anti-terrorism legislation where you start covering a story that relates to somebody who's been detained under this specific legislation, you yourself can basically be arrested for uncovering it and speaking about it.
So there's all this psycho-legislation in Australia that's actually a lot worse than what you're even talking about.
And it set the precedent for worse and worse and worse legislation that continues to infringe the rights of Aussies.
And Aussies don't know and don't care because they're politically ambivalent.
So once again, we roll back around to the fact that am I surprised that Australians are sitting in their homes and have been sitting in their homes for 200 days plus?
No, I'm not.
Because this is this is what you get with an ambivalent population.
tim pool
If they want it, they get what they want, I guess.
sydney watson
We get what we pay for.
No refunds.
tim pool
You know, I live in West Virginia and it's kind of all right.
For the most part, you can you got a big, empty bit of land.
sydney watson
Can you play that song?
West Virginia?
tim pool
Don't Australians love that song?
sydney watson
Yes.
tim pool
That's weird.
elijah schaffer
No, we can't.
We can't play.
sydney watson
Elijah, let's play it on the drive home.
elijah schaffer
No, we will, but I'm just saying that, like, it's funny when you come down to all of this.
tim pool
You drove here from Texas?
sydney watson
Yeah, we drove all the way from Texas.
We jumped in the car.
elijah schaffer
No fly list.
No, you know, but I was gonna say that, like, when it comes down to this, it's funny.
The people who are anti-government, like, when you look at who actually killed, for instance, throughout all of history, who caused most of the problems, right?
Even if you go to, like, Waco, and you look at the ATF, and you look at what they did.
sydney watson
Was it the FBI?
elijah schaffer
It was technically the ATF, but I'm saying, but you go down, it's like, okay, the government.
And you look down with a lot of the things that are screwed up.
But like I was mentioning earlier with Jesus as well, the Roman government technically killed Jesus.
Everybody says it was the Jews.
The Jews, the Pharisees and stuff were wanting his head, but technically the only people who could order and actually carry out the execution during that time would have been the governing empire, which would have been this.
And you go back through all of history, and every religion everywhere around the world, you look at all the history.
At the core of the problem is a government that tries to trick the people into thinking that it's looking out for their own interests but as it goes rogue eventually it declines because it loses contact with the people and you end up having somebody else stronger comes in and takes over where they see a weakness to meet the will of the people.
And it's kind of interesting in all of this that government people like this is why I never understood why black Americans are so Democrat.
It's like So you're saying the government screwed you over and allowed slavery and like brought you over here and then ruined you and then, you know, put Jim Crow laws and everything so you want to be a part of the party of big government that continues to do this.
So you're mad at the government, but now you want the government to solve your problems.
They ruined your life.
They literally destroyed, they brought you over here and just continually destroyed your life and held you back.
And now you're looking to that same entity that destroyed your life to bring you out of it.
You think something's changed?
You think that the government is now suddenly good and they're going to help you?
sydney watson
Like, I don't understand why- You think those unchecked people will suddenly be checked and start doing things that make sense?
unidentified
Elijah, that's silly.
elijah schaffer
No, but I'm just saying, with this government thing, it's like nobody has gotten anything more wrong about COVID since the beginning, since government entities and organizations.
Everything has pretty much been wrong, or a.k.a.
suddenly corrected or disappeared.
The science changed.
Yeah, exactly.
unidentified
The facts.
elijah schaffer
They said new facts, right?
That's the whole phrase.
And so it's like, look, man, I'm about at the point now where this isn't working anymore, okay?
You killed my savior.
Good thing he rose again from the dead and now I have new life.
And apparently now he's on my podcast with me.
ian crossland
Hey!
Second coming.
Everyone is it.
sydney watson
I was gonna say, the way that Ian was just looking at you as you were talking about Jesus, he was like... I do love Jesus.
He's telling my story.
Dude, if we live like Jesus, like a real Christian, embody the spirit of what you believe is right, I just needed to know because I needed to know if I'm not the only atheist in the room.
tim pool
No, I'm not an atheist.
sydney watson
No, I never said you were a pet.
tim pool
I'm just saying that you're the only atheist in the room.
sydney watson
I am the only atheist in the room.
unidentified
I'm not a man, Timothy, pet.
Hold on, let me qualify.
sydney watson
Now that Tim and I are friends, we're friends, Elijah can again qualify this.
I say pet all the time and it freaks Americans out because they're like, why are you calling me a pet?
And I'm like, I'm not, it's just part of my speech.
elijah schaffer
What am I, a cow?
tim pool
Peter, are you an atheist?
unidentified
No, no.
ian crossland
I'm more agnostic than anything.
I mean, that cosmic microwave background radiation is like the permeating radiation left over from the Big Bang.
Looks like it's interacting with matter and causing God.
That's the experience of that interaction is God.
Seems like it.
But I believe that this Christ consciousness is real, that it can permeate this like... I don't know what it is, like a spirit of goodness.
I know good and evil are subjective, but...
elijah schaffer
Because the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of God is over the earth.
And a lot of people mock me for my belief in God, but it's not just a consciousness.
Christ is a real person, but he's also God.
And what's interesting is that, and this is where I know people who are not Christian
would not believe this, but the only thing that is holding evil back is the Spirit of
God that is currently on the earth in those that are chosen.
And there's going to end up being a rapture, and that one time that's why the end of the
world comes.
He pulls the spirit off the face of the earth.
It's true.
And actually evil continues.
We have the anti-Christ things happen.
This is why, it's weird how the Bible predicted a one world government towards the end.
Like no, but I'm saying, it says what the world would be like in the end times, and
it describes what it would be like, and it looks like the world today.
It also says that there would be the sharing of knowledge, this increased rapid sharing
of knowledge around the world, and a one world economy.
That it would create a one-world economy, a global economy, and a one-world government would be their goal.
Where you had to have some sort of a mark.
sydney watson
It says this in the Bible.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, where you had to have some sort of a mark to buy or to sell.
And that was like, it's very interesting that that's what it says about the end times.
tim pool
The Mark of the Beast says that you cannot buy, sell, or trade unless you bear the mark.
And when I first heard that, it was a super chat on this show, I was like, that's too specific.
Talking about free market...
Restrictions?
What do you mean?
And then I looked it up.
Yeah, it literally says you can't buy solid straight.
ian crossland
It's possible.
tim pool
But I have to ask a question on that.
You're saying that the only thing holding evil back is the spirit?
elijah schaffer
The Holy Spirit.
tim pool
Well, so does that imply that God put the evil here on purpose?
elijah schaffer
No, it's not that God put the evil here on purpose, but God created the evil and the evil is coming for us.
So what's interesting is that if you look at actually Christian theology or what actually happened, is Lucifer, the devil, that we call the devil or Satan, is actually an angel, right?
All demons are our fallen angels.
And part of why God is not a slave master, but he's a just and a fair God, is he gives you free will or the right to serve him or to not.
And he is perfect.
And so what happened was is that Lucifer became, I could say, jealous.
But he thought that he was the best of all the angels, right?
He was the most beautiful, most talented, he was ahead of all of the music.
And that he actually rebelled against God, and he thought that he could be God, like God.
And so it's kind of interesting even how sin was brought into the world, but he was cast out of heaven.
Many believe that means that he was sent down to earth, and that's why there's that big crater.
Down in the Gulf.
Anyway, a lot of people believe that, but I don't know if that's true.
But I will say that he was cast down, and what's interesting is that it talks about that some of these demons actually were so evil, and after they revolted and separated themselves from God, that some of them are even locked in chains at the bottom of the Euphrates River, and they're held back.
And that when the Holy Spirit leaves, that the evil is finally unleashed on the earth.
That full evil is unleashed.
The reason why the good keeps winning and the reason why evil never fully is able to
triumph and indefinitely take over is because the Holy Spirit of God is continually on the
face of the earth and is holding evil back.
But there's a moment where God gives us what we want and what people want, like how Aussies
want, they want the government eventually.
You really talk to them, most Aussies like, they think what the government's doing is
good.
sydney watson
But at least they think it's okay.
They're not, they're not like vehemently against it.
elijah schaffer
What humans want is to not have to deal with God and then God gives us that.
He goes, okay, have yourself.
And that's why the antichrist is able to rise up.
And that's, it's so weird to me though, that a bunch of, you know, and I'm saying this sarcastically for people who can't understand that.
but a bunch of crazy fishermen liars, you know, thousands of years ago,
somehow predicted that what the end times would look like is that people would be liars.
They would claim to have the fear of God, but not express its power,
that they would hate their families, families would be divided against themselves,
that they would be backstabbers, it talked about they'd be greedy,
lovers of themselves, haters of God, mockers of God, and that the key factors would that there would be pestilence,
earthquakes, and these would be signs of the times, and the goal would
be, the spirit of the Antichrist would be to create a one-world
economy and a one-world government, and that being an allegiance to that government was part of
the...
you had, in order to like buy, sell, trade, to live, you had to give your allegiance to that leader, who would
take over and declare himself God.
And it even predicted the rebuilding of... and it says that we'll know who he is,
because he's going to sit, he's going to rebuild the temple on the Temple Mount,
where he's going to rebuild the temple after it's destroyed, and he's going to sit on the throne and declare himself God.
And he says that Israel was going to reform as a nation, and that it's like, funny, they predicted that Israel was going to reform, and it did.
And then they already have the plans in place right now, and the materials to rebuild the new temple, and they're waiting for the right moment.
So it's like, it's crazy that like, if it's not real, how they got so much of it right.
tim pool
Or they read it and said, hey, let's do that.
elijah schaffer
That's possible, but yeah, yeah, that's that could that could be but you know, I wonder That could be but they also don't believe in the New Testament the Jews don't even believe in that as well So they don't they don't follow that.
tim pool
No, I don't I don't think it's any one particular group I'm saying like if you're saying that Zionists don't believe in the New Testament If there is a group of, like, you know, global special interests who are doing the things as predicted, it could just be those global special interests are like, hey, I read this book.
You read it?
Hey, there's a bunch of good ideas for how we should control the world.
elijah schaffer
I don't think they're, they really respect, well, then why would they just randomly follow Revelation?
unidentified
Randomly?
elijah schaffer
Not follow anything else?
tim pool
No, no, I'm saying they're deliberately doing it.
elijah schaffer
I mean, it doesn't give you the plans on how to carry it out.
No, but they're trying.
These are the signs.
They're too vague to actually give you a way to carry it out.
And then why would you choose that book?
I mean, it just, if you look at it, it's statistically probably improbable.
tim pool
I think that... Let me ask you, when do you think the... So it's happening now, right?
elijah schaffer
I think we're in the last days.
Yeah, I think we're in the end times.
tim pool
How much time do we have?
elijah schaffer
It says no man knows the day or the hour.
That's part of the reason, because it says that, you know, it's crazy, is it says that when these things are coming to an end, when God comes to raptures people... But there's no... Rapture's not Yes, yes.
He says they'll be caught up.
Yes, it is.
It says they'll be caught up.
sydney watson
The word rapture is not in the Bible.
elijah schaffer
That's an English word, an American word.
Yes.
So I'm saying that it says being caught, taken off.
So what it actually talks about is very interesting because this happened with Enoch and other people in the Bible.
But what is really, really interesting about this, I'm saying, is that it categorizes this
idea.
It's very interesting.
It even kind of predicts the theory of evolution and whatnot.
That it says that during this time, people are going to be mocking God because it says
they're going to be buying and selling in trade, being given in marriage, and living
life as it is, saying that life has always been and it always will be.
That there was never this, that it's been going for a long time, and it's going to continue
to evolve and continue to move on the way that it's been.
And people are just going to be caught up in their own lives, in their own sin, in their own focus.
And then God's going to come back to judge the world.
And it's going to catch them off guard.
It's like a thief in the night.
He's going to come back and it's going to throw everybody off.
And that's kind of crazy.
Because even with COVID, it's like you're just living and buying and selling and trading and living life.
Then all of a sudden the world changes.
And we see that where things just change in an instant.
I know you guys don't believe it, but that is what I believe.
tim pool
I saw this movie, and I guess, you know, spoiler alert for anybody who wants to see the movie Antidote.
I saw it on Amazon.
It's actually pretty good.
What is it?
Well, I'm just giving everybody a spoiler warning.
Give them a few more seconds for this to catch up, and then realize if you want to see the movie, it is about a woman who wakes up in a hospital Where they torture people, but then give them a healing serum to regenerate them, and then continue doing experiments on them.
And so, they do things where they cut their eyes out, or cut up their tongue, or impale them, and then heal them, and then keep doing it, cut their legs off.
And, uh, spoiler warning for anybody who wants to see it, because it actually is a pretty good movie.
All right, here we go.
It actually turns out, and I caught this immediately, so maybe it's not a spoiler.
The main character wakes up in her bed, and she's like, something's wrong.
Like, my stomach hurts.
And her husband rushes her to the hospital, and then she has to go for, you know, she has appendicitis.
What is it called?
Appendectomy.
That really hurts, just by the way.
So they give her the anesthetic, she goes out, they go in surgery, and then she wakes up in this hospital where she's in a different room, it's a different doctor, and her scar is healed.
She can still see the scar, but it's mostly healed.
She's like, how long have I been here?
And I immediately said, she's dead.
She's in hell.
And so I guess the idea of the movie is that she's in the level of hell where they torture you and then heal you and then torture you over and over again for eternity.
And the story was that she used to be a drug addict and she was dating this guy who was abusing her.
And then one day when he was abusing her, she grabbed something and swung it at him and slashed his throat, accidentally killing him, and then strung him up with piano wire to get away with the crime.
And she was condemned to an eternity of being tortured, literally an eternity.
And I'm like, man, that's really messed up.
like this idea of of you know you you're defending yourself and you accidentally kill somebody and then you panic and now you have to literally go to this hell where you get your legs chopped off you get stabbed in the chest they cut your face off and so i think about stuff like that and i'm like If God, after everything we've seen with all the evil, and the power of the evil to manipulate and lie, cheat, and steal, and trick people and all that, for God to come down and be like, I'm judging everybody, and these good people of good conscience and ethics who didn't worship me and didn't have faith in me, yeah, you're all gonna go to hell too, even though it was the evil that tricked you.
elijah schaffer
But didn't you say about cops that they're not good if they don't quit based on those things?
So meaning like, what defines being a good person than if God is perfect?
God defines that none of us are good, no not one, because we're born into sin.
So he's saying that the only way to actually become and find redemption is through the faith in the work of Christ on the cross.
tim pool
And so what happens to the non-believers when the rapture happens?
elijah schaffer
Well, not everyone believes in that the rapture is going to happen.
tim pool
But let's just say, in your view, God will come to judge everybody.
elijah schaffer
I think that a lot of people will wake up, because I believe that a lot of people are familiar with this, and they will realize... Because the Bible talks about that a lot of people refuse to get the mark, and that the punishment is beheading.
They actually get beheaded in the guillotine style.
They get their heads chopped off if you don't submit to the one world government
And that's because you're seen as an enemy because even though you're just not buying selling and trading your
threat like a terror threat All right
tim pool
So what's gonna happen?
elijah schaffer
It seems that it seems that a lot of people get killed that a lot of people who appear I would assume of good
conscience Realize oh crap
That was right.
And that they become, they give their lives to God.
That's what it seems like.
tim pool
So what I'm saying is there's obviously going to be a lot of people who are, who are good people in that they, uh, you know, so I'll use my, look, I believe in God, but I don't believe in Christian theology.
So, you know, would I be condemned to hell because I'm like, Yeah, it's about Kezia.
sydney watson
She and I have conversations about this all the time, Elijah's wife, because she's, you know, very Christian as well.
And the way that she's described it to me is that it's not necessarily about your... It is actually about whether or not you fully actually believe in God.
It's not about your good works.
It's not about any of that sort of stuff.
It's about whether or not you effectively, like, let him into your life.
elijah schaffer
But the good works would follow, so it's kind of like saying, I could say I'm a car, but it doesn't make me one.
I can make the noises and the sounds, but it doesn't make me a car.
You could say, oh, I do believe in God, but a faith like you mentioned, if you believed in God and you would get to know his heart, that would transform you and that you would become more like God.
You would see this with a lot of people who genuinely Why would I, you know, pledge anything to an entity that would condemn Sydney to hell?
Well, he's not condemning Sydney to hell.
sydney watson
There's a lot of Christians who are hypocrites though.
I'm a Christian but who don't actually, they're not actually Christian if you know what I
mean.
And I'm not here to judge anybody because what the hell do I know because I'm not religious.
tim pool
Why would I pledge anything to an entity that would condemn Sydney to hell?
elijah schaffer
Well he's not condemning Sydney to hell, Sydney's choosing to go.
tim pool
Right.
But also, I mean, by the same token... So like, to eternally torture and cause suffering for someone based on ignorance.
elijah schaffer
But it's not based out of ignorance, because actually, Sydney's smarter than me.
So this is the point.
Sydney's actually hyper-intelligent.
I don't think Sydney's stupid.
And I actually used to be agnostic.
I've said that.
I used to be agnostic.
I didn't really know what I believed, but I did know that what's interesting about this is that this is also beyond just the physical, that there is an actual such thing as the spirit of a person, of a man, and that these things, that's why we can be immoral or moral versus dogs are instinctual, right?
These are animals.
They don't have the soul.
This is what is distinctualized about sentience, about the person of who I am as a human being.
This makes me sacred and special.
God designed me in his image.
And so someone like Sydney, Sydney is not dumb, and I thoroughly and fully believe that when I met Sydney, she was an atheist, now she's agnostic.
Who knows where she's headed now?
But I do believe that, for instance, God put us in our lives together.
That's why we have a new show coming out together.
unidentified
Let's do this.
tim pool
We're going to go to Super Chats.
sydney watson
We will fight each other on the new show.
tim pool
Let's have an extended conversation for the members podcast on all this stuff, because I find it really fascinating.
So TimCast.com, check it out.
sydney watson
Yeah, watch the atheist and the Christian go head to head.
unidentified
Oh, it's going to be fantastic.
We love each other.
sydney watson
We do actually.
I love Elijah.
He's a good man.
tim pool
When we wrap up the show, we then immediately start pre-recording.
We record the member segment and then upload it around 11 or so PM on the website.
And so go there, become a member and smash the like button.
Share the show.
Really sharing is the most powerful thing you can do because then more people watch it and word of mouth makes everything work better.
But let's read some of these super chats we got from everybody and make sure you smash that like button.
All right, let's see.
Whacked Out says, serious question.
This is an interesting question.
This was from earlier, from 8 o'clock.
Ian, do you believe in reality or observation?
ian crossland
You would need to define real, what that means.
tim pool
So observation.
ian crossland
The observer tends to define its experience, yeah.
sydney watson
What are these little rocks?
I want one.
tim pool
The obsidian rock?
unidentified
Yeah.
sydney watson
Do you want this one?
elijah schaffer
It's a big one.
tim pool
Were we both spinning them?
unidentified
Yeah, you both were playing with rocks.
ian crossland
Can I try a little more of that whiskey?
sydney watson
Did you put it in your mouth?
ian crossland
No, not yet.
elijah schaffer
Can you tell someone what this is?
tim pool
Yeah, so he-she rice whiskey.
elijah schaffer
You guys, this is a very nice box of this, and I don't even like whiskey, and I tried a very little bit, and I'm actually very excited to try a little more, and this is like...
Top dollar stuff.
ian crossland
That's obsidian.
elijah schaffer
This is a good gift.
He's a very generous man.
tim pool
He's drinking aloud on YouTube.
sydney watson
In Assassin's Creed Valhalla.
tim pool
Tastefully.
elijah schaffer
I wouldn't say drunkenness would be allowed.
sydney watson
Smash this to make things.
ian crossland
Interesting.
sydney watson
It's incredible.
elijah schaffer
Like a little taste of rice whiskey.
ian crossland
He's so good in your palm.
tim pool
All right, let's see.
AnonNobody says, Sydney and Tim should do a collab.
Both have awesome singing voices.
Do you sing?
sydney watson
I do, yeah.
tim pool
Well, we just laid down a scratch track for a new song we're working on.
We should actually get you to record some vocals now while we have you and then use them for the song.
sydney watson
Like right now?
tim pool
Like literally after the show, walk down and just press the microphone and then just like record for 30 seconds.
unidentified
Beautiful.
sydney watson
Yeah, done.
tim pool
I guess theoretically we could always just have you do it whenever.
sydney watson
Yeah, I mean, I have equipment that I can use to record.
No, I used to do heaps of music stuff, and then I... She's really good.
I mean, I like to think I don't suck.
I think that's the best way to put it.
But I do play piano, too.
People find that quite shocking.
I play piano and I sing.
ian crossland
Oh, hell yeah.
sydney watson
Yeah, yeah.
Piano's beautiful.
Honestly, best instrument.
ian crossland
I know that, you know, you guys... You know, my problem with piano is that... Guitar people, but... With guitar... With piano, you can't get the notes between the two keys.
sydney watson
Do you mean the sharps and flats?
ian crossland
No, between the sharp and the white key.
Between those, there's no note on a piano.
With a guitar, you can bend the string a little bit more and you get more variety of note.
sydney watson
Oh, interesting.
tim pool
You can hit frequencies pianos can't.
sydney watson
That's why I like pianos though.
It's because everything is like, it is what it is.
You get what you get.
Exactly.
elijah schaffer
I like both.
tim pool
Yeah, like guitar playing is like skateboarding and piano is like rollerblading.
elijah schaffer
piano is honestly i but i but i that's how my brain is though i like this rigid regiment because you're emotional and like i will find myself playing guitar during the day and then after 10 i play piano and get really heady and and the songs are deeper we're like they're more like you keep With the piano too, because especially when you get into minor chords or different scales, you end up getting this real deep and somber mood.
And so yeah, if you want to rock out and have a good time, get your heart out quickly, fine.
Guitar.
But piano, it's like an emotional soul connection.
It's kind of amazing.
sydney watson
You know who's a great contemporary artist that writes piano music?
It's Yuruma.
I believe he's Japanese.
Oh no, maybe he's not.
elijah schaffer
Hate 2 is really good.
sydney watson
And there's Isaac Shepard, he's wonderful as well.
I don't know, I just love piano.
tim pool
Alright, we got Sorta.
He says, we should send Biden down under to box a thousand kangaroos.
sydney watson
Yes, I'd pay to watch.
Well, they'd probably beat him to death.
tim pool
Well, I just don't want to see kangaroos getting hurt, you know?
I don't think kangaroos can consent to a boxing match.
Didn't they do that once?
There was a famous kangaroo...
sydney watson
Oh, I think so.
Oh, no, maybe they are.
elijah schaffer
There's like six million what for every one million?
tim pool
Have you ever eaten a kangaroo?
Yes, I have as well.
I think kangaroo jerky.
sydney watson
Did you like it?
tim pool
Yeah, it tasted like jerky.
sydney watson
No, no, no, you got to have that.
No.
elijah schaffer
What happens when you put your finger in a kangaroo's mouth?
sydney watson
Well, let's ask Ian, he can find out.
unidentified
Don't do that.
ian crossland
Don't do that, by the way.
Oh, hey, by the way, don't stick your fingers in cows' mouths.
An ex-girlfriend told me it felt good that she did it.
I never did it.
sydney watson
What else felt good, Ian, that she used to do?
unidentified
Could be dangerous.
ian crossland
I didn't ask.
lydia smith
Don't recommend that.
Yeah, no.
elijah schaffer
Literally, go stay.
No, don't do it.
lydia smith
No, Elijah, no.
tim pool
All right.
Carrie the Crazy says, long time member for SimCaller.
Love you all.
Please look into the National Archives closed down due to COVID and the effects it has on VA disability claims.
They cannot receive our official records because no one is sending them.
unidentified
Whoa.
tim pool
Wow.
Steven Zilligen says, I will buy Sydney a ranch tomorrow.
lydia smith
There you go.
sydney watson
In Wyoming or Montana.
lydia smith
Yes.
sydney watson
Email me.
unidentified
Wyoming.
ian crossland
Good crypto laws there.
unidentified
Or Idaho, perhaps.
sydney watson
I don't know.
ian crossland
Start your Wyoming corporation, yeah, if you want to use crypto.
sydney watson
I hear they have fantastic crypto laws for... What happens when the zombie aponcalypse happens and we have no internet?
unidentified
How will I buy... I think you just said aponcalypse.
Apowcalypse.
I don't know.
tim pool
Satellite internet?
sydney watson
We're getting close.
I will buy more stuff with the obsidian that you've hit.
ian crossland
Dude, we gotta get more obsidian.
sydney watson
Alright.
tim pool
Harvey Slayer says, Ian isn't crazy.
One way to teach calves to drink water from a bucket is to have it suck on your finger.
I've done it to help wean calves off formula.
ian crossland
A little udder.
sydney watson
That's so cute.
unidentified
That is a nice image of like a little cow going, that makes sense.
tim pool
R Bracewell says, Elijah and Sydney love your show and you two have some major support in my area.
Love the fact that you two take shots at each other and it's all in fun.
I see you and stand with you.
sydney watson
I like that people notice, though, that you and I give each other mad SH.
elijah schaffer
Can I say that, though, real fast?
This is really important, Tim, because you're on ENT.
You've been in this industry for a very long time.
People have stopped just talking and learning to be friends, especially publicly, with people that you just don't agree with most things on.
When you really get down to it, yes, Sydney and I agree on a lot of tenets of life, but down to the nitty gritty, we disagree on about 70% of things.
And yet we are very close and we are very good friends and we're even able to start a new show together because the world has stopped understanding the beauty of hanging out with your friends where it's interesting and it's not just like, she's not a yes woman, I'm not a yes man, we hang out together.
And it's like, your show's like that too, you have so many different kinds of people on here, it's beautiful.
tim pool
It's simple, there's the cult and then regular people.
And regular people have always been able to be like, well, I disagree with you what you say,
but I defended the death, you're right to say it, or I disagree with you, but let's argue and debate
these ideas. But you've had the growing cult faction in the US that are like, you're an
apostate or a nonbeliever and everything you say should be banned. And those, they don't represent
the actual humans. You know, so if you look at, there was a graph we showed several times
showing where on this chart of like, of economic conservatism and liberalism to social
conservatism and liberalism, you look at where Trump's voters are and they were left and right
on economics and mostly anti-woke.
You look at the Democrats and it was hyper concentrated in communist woke.
So you have the overarching American population of economic left and economic right and their agreements and disagreements as they've always traditionally been and then you have this new emerging faction of cult-like dogma.
So when people are like, why can't we get along anymore?
It's like, well, some people joined a cult and you can't communicate with them because they're in a cult.
And that's true for some Trump supporters, but for the most part, the people who are in whatever this space is, be it atheist, agnostic, people who believe in God or people who are Christians and who are either conservative or libertarian or somewhat liberal, we all have conversations getting along just fine.
But the culty people are very difficult to communicate with.
sydney watson
You know, it's funny that you say that, though, and I don't mean to make this a Sydney moment, but to exactly what you're talking about, I was so scared to admit publicly that I don't believe in God because a large faction of conservative, the conservative right, are very Christian and they think you're a heretic.
Well, if you are an atheist.
elijah schaffer
If you're not even Catholic, they call me a heretic because I'm not Catholic.
sydney watson
You would try to out me.
Elijah would quietly try to out me on his show.
He'd be like, so Sydney, you as a non-believer, and I'd be like, shut up.
Because I was scared.
I was like, I don't want to get attacked.
tim pool
I mean, it takes bravery to come out and say something so brazenly stupid as 2 plus 2 is 5.
But I'm proud of you for, I'm just kidding.
elijah schaffer
Jack Bosovic said I'm a part of the great apostasy.
He's like, I love you, but you know, you just, you, you support, uh, the great apostasy.
sydney watson
Isn't that funny though, how, how it's like Christians have fight within themselves.
Christians fight with atheists, atheists fight with everyone.
I don't fight with anyone just by the way.
I'm out here just like, I don't care.
Just be nice to me.
Okay.
Buy me a ranch in Montana.
I'm not even that nice to you.
Yeah, you're not.
You're just like, get out of my house.
tim pool
Let's read a little bit more.
We got Hayden.
He says, I mean, that would be huge if at the end of the year everyone then paid their taxes.
stop taking social security taxes and Medicare out of employee checks, forcing people to
write a check to the government every year.
Returns are only the government taking too much money from you.
We need to wake people up.
I mean, that would be huge if at the end of the year everyone then paid their taxes.
Or quarterly is actually how it really works.
So most people don't understand that when you make a certain amount of money, you pay
You don't just hold all your money, because then you get fined, you get interest.
So imagine if every three months people were like, it's tax day, how much do I owe?
Seriously?
Then they'd vote against that in two seconds.
sydney watson
Yes, they would.
They'd see how much is coming, because people don't see what's coming out of their paycheck, so they have no idea what they're paying in tax.
And when you see how high that is... I cry.
tim pool
We, we, we... I weep.
We have a good one here.
Some guy from Texas says, here's a list of all the things that will not kill you in Australia.
One, some of the sheep.
sydney watson
Some of them.
tim pool
Some of them.
sydney watson
The rest of them are poisonous.
They spit gas at you.
lydia smith
Poisonous sheep.
tim pool
Rajesh says, Australians are decent but inactive and unpolitical.
Being an Indian expat in Australia, born the JN, the communist hellhole of Kerala, which by the way is one of the main source of woke expat professors in US universities, Australia is not bad because I can now afford this super chat.
Hey, appreciate the super chat.
Thank you.
All right.
Let's see what we got here.
Eric A. says, in regards to the Project Veritas video earlier, the High School News YouTube channel did a profile on the teacher from when he first got there three years ago.
Really creeped me out, given what we know now.
Titled, Tiger Talk Profiles Mr. Gipe.
You guys see this thing from Veritas?
sydney watson
Oh yeah, where he was talking about how he's turning his students into revolutionaries.
It was, it was creepy.
tim pool
And, but this is just one teacher.
sydney watson
And it's Mark Letzman, I think, in front of him.
elijah schaffer
Do you sell that?
sydney watson
But they said in the interview that multiple teachers at the school actually share the same sentiments and that they sort of discuss their creepy little revolutionary viewpoints.
elijah schaffer
The Mao picture is what did it for me on the wall, how he has Mao overlooking the students.
tim pool
Is that real?
sydney watson
He said, too, that he had a student who was uncomfortable with the fact that he had the Antifa flag in his classroom and he said, I'm doing this because I assume it will be on the wall.
And he said, you know, basically, if you have a problem with this and you're writing like a note at the end of semester, you know, basically complaining about it, then there's actually something wrong with you, student, because your ideas are then antithetical to the values of Antifa.
Who the hell says that to, like, a frickin' 16-year-old?
What is that?
These people.
elijah schaffer
Who has an Antifa flag?
sydney watson
What is that?
They make flags.
tim pool
All right.
Atomic Ozzy says Australia also has an anti-corruption department that is used to protect the politicians
from investigations.
sydney watson
Yes.
Yes, they also have this thing to, um, God, what's it called?
Um, uh, they call them fixated persons.
This is not related to the government, but where they can basically institutionalize you.
Um, if you are like posting too much or too aggressively or writing too many letters to politicians saying, Hey, I'm angry that you're doing, you know, this, this, and this.
Yeah.
They have a, they call them fixated persons.
There's a fixated persons unit and they can institutionalize you.
This is what I'm saying.
Go and look up psycho-Australian legislation.
I encourage every person to do it because there is so much of it that infringes the rights of Australians in ways that you cannot even bloody believe.
elijah schaffer
But they don't really have rights, by the way.
sydney watson
Well, this is the thing.
I think it might have been you, Lyd.
Yeah, I think you're right.
Yeah, about how Australia doesn't have a Bill of Rights, and we don't.
elijah schaffer
It's understood.
sydney watson
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
It's common law.
sydney watson
It's very bizarre because even our freedom of speech, and I've ranted about this before, is only implied in our constitution.
It's not explicit.
So there's only five explicit rights in the constitution.
elijah schaffer
Australia thought CPAC was an extreme right-wing meeting.
So there's that.
sydney watson
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
CPAC.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Mr. Obvious says, this was the best episode of Timcast by far.
Hilarious and based.
I think people should follow their dreams.
The worst thing that can happen is they fail.
The best thing that can happen is they succeed through hard work.
I think Jordan Peterson said, in order to succeed, you have to be willing to be a fool.
Yeah, today he shouted that out on Instagram or something like that.
sydney watson
I would agree with that.
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
How's he doing?
sydney watson
He seems like he's doing okay.
ian crossland
Really happy.
He seems, he has been reflecting on how gracious people have been to he and his family over the last six months.
elijah schaffer
How could you hate the man?
What a, what a lovely dude.
sydney watson
He honestly does seem like one of those people that would just, is just like good hearted.
You don't meet too many of them.
Yoko Boyan's where we live in Texas.
He's like that too.
He's just a good, like when you meet him, Kezia described this to me, she was like, you'll meet him and he's just got this energy about him.
And I don't really buy into that sort of stuff, but I met him and I was like, wow, I get it.
He's a good dude.
lydia smith
I think Lily Tang Williams is a little bit like that.
Very, very special kind of person.
sydney watson
Yeah.
lydia smith
One in a million.
tim pool
Paul C says Sargon on his Lotus Eaters podcast did a fantastic segment with an Aussie political scientist explaining what's happening here.
Titled Australia Has Fallen.
Highly recommended.
Check it out.
We're big fans of Sargon and Lotus Eaters podcast.
You guys should definitely check that segment out because I know I will.
That sounds really interesting.
I'd like to hear what they have to say.
elijah schaffer
All right, let's see.
tim pool
Joseph Flynn says, I wonder if there's any correlation between the dangerous wildlife and Australians' tendency to trust their government.
The group survives when they stand together, so if someone disagrees, they're viewed as public enemy.
sydney watson
Safety in numbers?
unidentified
Don't touch the conefish, Elijah.
sydney watson
Don't step on the rockfish, Elijah.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, there's always like, that's the rockfish, that's the stonefish.
Wait till you see the pebblefish.
It's a sting, it hurts, but you get over it quickly.
sydney watson
There's this song by these comedians and it's like, they sing about all the things that can kill you in Australia and it talks about those.
Red back, final wear, blue ring, octopus, yep.
tim pool
Dorian Meredith says, I am Canadian and you could not pay me enough to make me move to the U.S.
I love my country.
I am 100% happy here.
My biggest fear these days is that the junk happening in the U.S.
will bleed into here.
Million dollars.
You got to live in Minnesota.
Northern Minnesota, just on the other side of the border.
Million dollars.
What do you say?
I got a feeling the answer's gonna be yes.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Because you're like right there, you know?
It's like you're just on the other side.
There's a video of this teenager, and they're in some part of Canada on the border where there's no border barrier at all.
It's just like a street barrier, you know, like steel block, and it says, like, U.S.-Canadian border, and they're, like, jumping back and forth.
Because there's areas like that.
All you gotta do is walk across and stand there for a couple decades, a million dollars.
sydney watson
A couple decades.
A couple decades.
tim pool
A couple decades!
But you can go hang out with your friends whenever you want right there, just right through the border, and you got a million bucks now.
You can buy a cow.
Stick your fingers in his mouth.
All right, let's see what we got.
sydney watson
Someone should draw this.
A picture of you sticking your finger in a cow's mouth.
unidentified
Oh, please!
That's a shirt.
sydney watson
And then we can put it on a shirt.
tim pool
Yeah, we gotta make that shirt.
elijah schaffer
Don't try this at home it should say.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I'm down.
ian crossland
Thank you for being smarter than me.
tim pool
All right, Canadian says, Canadian A says, I have a ranch in Canada with cattle and horses.
Sydney, green card marriage?
Save me from communism.
You get to play with cattle and horses.
We'll keep Ian away from the calves.
unidentified
Love the show.
ian crossland
No, you won't.
No, you won't.
sydney watson
We will be hopping over the border.
That'll be the next thing.
ian crossland
So you guys think horses really feel the human, like, beating together with them?
You know, they become, like, one when they ride together?
I just saw a clip from Black Beauty, Alan Cumming, being like, and then when I realized we were beating as one, I got even more invigorated, and the horse is, like, flying, you know, and the guy's, like, riding.
lydia smith
That is a really nice sentiment, but from what I know about people who have had experience with horses, they're exceedingly skittish, and they don't really bond with humans.
So riding them is different than, like, actually bonding with them.
sydney watson
Unless you have spirits, Stallion of the Cimarron.
lydia smith
That's true.
sydney watson
That's a bit different.
And then you have an Indian boy riding you.
Beautiful.
ian crossland
What is that?
sydney watson
Have you not seen Spirit?
It's a Disney movie.
Arguably the best soundtrack.
Lydia, back me up on this.
Best soundtrack.
ian crossland
No, what is it?
sydney watson
Great.
It's a movie about a horse.
He's trying to find his herd.
I don't know.
ian crossland
It's called Spirit?
sydney watson
Spirit.
Stein of the Cimarron.
unidentified
Thank you.
sydney watson
Unironically great.
tim pool
All right, let's see what we got.
Therese Larfield says, I live in a mining town in outback Western Australia.
Lots of cashed up bogans in WA.
I will add, the tide is turning against the tyranny.
Our premiere was like a rock star, not so much anymore.
Interesting.
Ben Macklin says, Western Australia classified gel blasters as prohibited weapons.
BB guns that shoot gel-filled plastic balls because they resemble real guns.
sydney watson
Yes.
You can't buy some of the toy guns.
You can't buy them because they look like real guns.
elijah schaffer
They always search my luggage so deeply when the border force, whenever I go there, they always take me aside and they just, they touch me.
It's uncomfortable.
ian crossland
Did you see China made it illegal?
You can't play video games three hours a week now if you're under 18 in China.
sydney watson
Yeah.
Oh, didn't they also ban, like, uh... Talking about banning fake guns.
ian crossland
Oh, sorry to interrupt you.
Video guns.
sydney watson
No, I interrupted you, actually.
I'm just rude today.
ian crossland
Continue, please.
sydney watson
Put me in the bin.
ian crossland
What happened?
tim pool
We do have a pretty large bin outside.
sydney watson
You want to go shove me into it?
ian crossland
But you're talking about banning fake BB guns.
This is like banning digital.
sydney watson
No, no, you have to understand.
Australia just bans everything.
They ban enjoyment.
No fun for you.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, that's what I came for the humor first.
They came for the humor because that's what that is.
Everybody has a sense of like we call it the clown pill, right?
It's slightly offensive people.
You know, Gavin says like once you stop laughing, then they win.
You know, I think other people just call it like, you know, the positivity face or whatever.
But the whole point is, is that as long as you stay positive, as long as you are able to laugh at what's
happening, they do not win over you.
And so that's why they come for humor, they come for enjoyment.
Because as long as you're still enjoying life, despite what they do, you are still in control and you still have power.
ian crossland
There was a Vietnam, I think he was a captain, a pilot, and he got shot down and taken prisoner of war at Hotel Hanoi,
one of the infamous Vietnam POW camps.
And it was just devastating for years they were there.
And he would do exercises with his mouth to keep smiling and to keep the other prisoners happy.
Isn't it easier to smile than it is to frown?
No, that's a fallacy.
And that was a big part of it was staying, just doing the muscles so that you remember
what it feels like to smile.
You'd have to do that every day.
elijah schaffer
Isn't it easier to smile than it is to frown?
sydney watson
No, that's a fallacy.
I looked it up.
elijah schaffer
I read that on a meme, but apparently it's not true.
ian crossland
I looked that up.
elijah schaffer
The things that you hear.
sydney watson
I want to read these. Stop talking about stupid things.
tim pool
Yeah.
Dummy.
elijah schaffer
I still can't get over the cow.
tim pool
Seth Booz says, Tim, as a regular viewer, I take exception to
your comment on your earlier segment where you said, who wants to live in Colorado?
I love my guns, my mountains, just not the California implants.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
Much love and keep killing it.
Yeah, the mountains are great.
lydia smith
Colorado is awesome.
sydney watson
Colorado is beautiful.
lydia smith
Many, many, many people in Colorado are fit and active and they take it very seriously.
sydney watson
Also a sexy place full of sexy people.
elijah schaffer
Just the worst airport is Denver.
lydia smith
Creepiest.
sydney watson
Creepy.
ian crossland
There's like an underground military base there or something?
lydia smith
Something like that, we don't know.
ian crossland
Some old secret.
sydney watson
I thought that that was also a fallacy.
ian crossland
It's weird.
elijah schaffer
Definitely.
tim pool
at the risk of this turning into like a matchmaking show we got so many super chats from people who are like now getting trying to buy me a ranch trying to buy a ranch and they're holding roses email let's see uh i i was actually thinking elijah sorry to interrupt you tim i was thinking we should just you know Put your name in the hat, date of Sydney.
sydney watson
Then we can raise a bunch of money for our new show.
There you go.
elijah schaffer
As long as we get to build the studio of our show on that ranch and we don't have to live in a city ever again.
sydney watson
Yeah, you can just find me a husband.
elijah schaffer
I'm from LA.
Like I moved from Hollywood into Texas and I thought Texas was like the country for a second.
And now I'm like, man, I don't want to be within a few miles of another human being.
I need to get out of the city.
sydney watson
Sorry, Tim, we interrupted you.
Continue.
tim pool
I was going to read this guy who's pitching woo.
unidentified
All right, go ahead.
tim pool
Email, email, uh, email.
Up says, Sydney, you're single, so I'm going to shoot my shot
like the Fresh and Fit podcast.
29 year new Braunfels, Texas.
No cows yet, but I'm attractive with multiple revenue streams
and a high IQ.
How do I get a date?
elijah schaffer
Email, email, email.
What's your email?
sydney watson
Brandon?
unidentified
What is it?
elijah schaffer
Besteelatmercurystudios.com would be her producer and he can filter that out and maybe set a date up for you.
tim pool
I will say it would be the greatest thing if like a year from now there's like a wedding.
sydney watson
And we get married here on your compound.
tim pool
Oh, and they're right here and you guys are, you know, and you can have other little atheist babies that are going to hell.
sydney watson
Hey Elijah, there'll be a legion of us and then we'll take over.
I am the dark lord.
No, people don't realize how tall I am.
unidentified
So it's funny because like people who... Yeah, she's like 6'10".
sydney watson
Yeah, I'm like six foot a hundred, but people, it's, people come up to me, you know, they meet me out and they go, oh, and I watched them be like, because they come up and they realize that I'm just this giant creature.
And they're like, you know what?
Just kidding.
I don't, I don't have horse children.
tim pool
You wear tall shoes.
sydney watson
Yeah, I like wearing high heels.
tim pool
The weirdest the craziest thing about meeting you for the first time was not just that I assumed you were shorter was
unidentified
I know!
tim pool
but but it Was that your arms are really long?
Yeah, like Slenderman go to your shins Sorry.
lydia smith
We're really going to get her married on this show.
unidentified
Exactly.
sydney watson
That's the goal.
Sidney is a giant with slender man arms, but you know what?
They're good.
They're good for like wrapping around things.
tim pool
Aaron is gonna get his date and you're gonna walk, he's gonna be sitting there at the diner and he's gonna have like a flower and a drink and he's gonna be wearing a nice suit and he's all chiseled and handsome and you're gonna walk in and he's gonna go, huh?
ian crossland
She's like, I got this.
She'll get the check and her arm was just way out.
He's like, whoa.
sydney watson
I take it from the waitress that she's walking over.
lydia smith
Saves a step, I love it.
tim pool
Really long fingers, like sick.
sydney watson
No, but my fingers are long too, that's the thing.
lydia smith
Yeah, you're getting piano.
sydney watson
They're so cool.
lydia smith
You do four octaves.
sydney watson
People, so a friend of mine once said to me that I have alien hands, and I looked at them and I thought, no.
And then I looked at them and I thought, oh yeah, okay.
For anyone, they're alien.
elijah schaffer
Like the clone, those people who made the clones from Star Wars Episode II, they have those like long little hands.
sydney watson
Yes, the little, and my nails are, and this is the thing too.
elijah schaffer
Is that you in alien form?
It is.
I can't unsee it.
I can't.
unidentified
I was like, where are the troopers?
sydney watson
All my nails are like real as well, which freaks people out.
And they're like, that's disgusting.
But look, look at the, it's everything.
I'm just a long person.
ian crossland
Were you always long?
sydney watson
Um, yes.
Yes, I was.
I mean, I remember being, so I, I was taller than most of the other kids in primary school.
And then when I got into, I was probably at 16.
I had a growth spurt and I came back.
Cause my mom said to me, you want to be about five foot nine.
So that's a good height.
And I thought, that's a bit tall.
That makes life quite challenging.
And then I came back from doing an exchange trip in France and I was 5 foot 11!
elijah schaffer
I can't unsee now.
I can't.
sydney watson
That is me.
elijah schaffer
I can't unsee.
sydney watson
Let's get me an outfit like that.
elijah schaffer
Remember these are the ones that made the clones?
tim pool
No, that does look like Sydney.
sydney watson
It's alien Sydney.
elijah schaffer
Oh my gosh, I feel so bad.
sydney watson
Someone's gonna photoshop my head onto one of those now, you know that, right?
elijah schaffer
Clone me harder, daddy.
tim pool
Clone me harder, daddy.
John Curry says, Timothy, listen to Seamus Coghlan.
He is a good man who will help lead you to the Lord.
You know, we had to kick Seamus out.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Because he stole the show and changed his shim cap.
Yeah, he tried to do some BS.
sydney watson
He mutinied.
tim pool
Yeah, and all of a sudden, the graphic that says TimCast almost said ShimCast.
It did.
And, you know, I was powerless to stop it.
I'm kidding.
We love you, Tim.
lydia smith
We let it happen.
Let's be real.
tim pool
All right, let's see.
We'll do a couple more, because I really want to do the... There's a lot of questions about religion and Rapture stuff, but we're going to have that for the members segment, because it's going to be really, really fun.
Brendan Saltvik says, Tim, if you don't want a relationship with God in this life, why would you want a relationship with Him for eternity?
Oh, I'd love a relationship in that capacity.
What I'm saying is, like, the idea of hell and eternal suffering for being wrong.
Like, not being a bad person, just, you know, being confused or ignorant.
There's a lot of people I know who are confused and ignorant, you know, like Sydney, for instance.
And, you know, I try to be nice to her.
sydney watson
The most confused and ignorant.
elijah schaffer
Confused and ignorant with Sydney and Tim.
tim pool
That's actually a good name for a show.
Confused and ignorant.
sydney watson
Gleefully catastrophic as we run off into the apocalypse.
tim pool
Actually, that's a really good idea for like a sketch where you get two regular people to talk about a very complex idea without any fact-checking or prep time or anything and see what they talk about.
sydney watson
Yeah.
tim pool
It would be like when, remember that smart bot chat AI they had where you could talk to it online?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And it started learning to be racist.
unidentified
Yep.
lydia smith
Immediately.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
tim pool
And then like, but no, like, because it just, it just repeats back what people were saying.
People were saying nasty stuff, but then they made it talk to each other and it created its own language.
ian crossland
I think those were different AIs.
One was they were seeding it with like racist Nazi stuff and so the AI became racist.
The other one was two AIs were talking to each other and they started speaking a language at Facebook and they shut it down because they were like, what are they saying?
lydia smith
That's awesome.
tim pool
That's what would happen.
You'd have someone like you put these two random people and film them.
And then after a long enough period of time, they probably have crazy theories no one's ever heard of that make no sense because they're only getting limited information from each other.
You know, that'd be great.
Jake McGreal says, I have cows.
Baby calves will indeed suck on your finger.
A nipple on a calf bottle and a real teat is about the same size.
lydia smith
That's what he was saying.
tim pool
So great.
You know, it's funny, we all made fun of Ian, but he was right the whole time.
I guess the issue was you said it feels good.
ian crossland
Well, and I did say, I said an adult cow.
Everyone, Superchat has said they were baby cows, so I don't know if the adults are still down on them.
unidentified
It was the setting it feels good part that was indoctrinated.
ian crossland
Yeah, that's what sticks with me, you know?
You remember the way you feel, not what the things you heard, you know, often.
tim pool
Don't stick your hands in- I heard, like, a human baby can bite your finger off.
unidentified
What?
sydney watson
They have no teeth.
ian crossland
So who do you blame if they do that?
Do you blame the baby?
It's kind of like, do you blame the police officer?
Like, who do you blame?
tim pool
I heard, like, the jaw strength of a human is intense, even in a baby, and they could bite down and, like, break your- you know, bite your finger off.
lydia smith
Very curious about that.
I do know that babies will hold on to your arm like a sloth if you hold them like that because it's to keep them from falling.
So if they feel like they're falling and you're holding them against your arm, they'll grab your arm.
unidentified
Really?
sydney watson
We should test that.
Test the theory.
tim pool
Does anybody have a baby we could borrow?
sydney watson
Exactly.
lydia smith
To borrow a small child.
tim pool
Borrow a baby?
sydney watson
And a calf.
tim pool
All right, Amy Lamar says, after the rapture, those left will likely have one more chance, but they will live under major persecution.
God would not force someone to be with him if they don't want to be.
Amen, Elijah, God bless.
You know what I was thinking?
You know, a good idea for like a short story or something?
I was thinking about where are all the people?
Where are all the truck drivers?
Where are all the workers?
All the labor shortage?
And you know, like, why is the economy getting worse?
Why things, you know, why is there, where are people?
Are they just sitting in their houses, not working?
What if they were raptured?
unidentified
Already?
tim pool
And you're left behind.
sydney watson
Well, that would explain it.
That's why I'm still here.
lydia smith
Yeah, me too.
sydney watson
No, but you are a nice little Christian girl.
elijah schaffer
I've never been friends with you.
ian crossland
Do you think that?
sydney watson
Yeah, that's where you messed up.
You messed up.
tim pool
Not literally, but it is a good question, I think.
It's like, where are all the people?
elijah schaffer
That's why Lydia's here, too.
tim pool
Where are all the people?
elijah schaffer
Where are they?
tim pool
They're at home.
elijah schaffer
People are quitting because what's happened is...
Well, that's a whole other story, but working has become less about providing and people have lost purpose and so, you know, not only has work become about what's fulfilling and makes you feel good and it used to be about what provided for a family or how you could actually, you know, bring sustenance into your life.
It's become so narcissistic and it's become so self-involved that people just don't find meaning in these jobs and they're not willing to do what is qualified and also our college, you know, degrees don't help people anymore so they're lost.
I just think that it's... I talked to a guy recently who ran a train company.
This is crazy.
He ran a train... Who do you meet that's in logistics and trains?
And he was telling me that they're hiring truckers right now for $150,000 a year, which is good money.
And he was saying that people just don't want to work it because they don't want to subject themselves to being a trucker.
And I don't mean that disrespectfully because it is a good job, but they have this pride complex.
These young people are like, well, I'm not going to be a trucker.
I'm gonna be a youtuber or whatever and like God knows those youtubers Tim man
tim pool
I I gotta be honest like trucker would be a job. I would do if I wasn't doing this
unidentified
It's pretty grueling a lot of drugs though to to stay afloat like amphetamines
lydia smith
You you you cannot do any drugs as a trucker because they test you constantly
elijah schaffer
Yeah, I was like, I'm pretty sure you can't and also you have to be really careful with drinking.
tim pool
I love, I love, I love truck stops.
elijah schaffer
You ever went to Buc-ee's?
sydney watson
I can't even speak English.
tim pool
Buc-ee's?
lydia smith
Buc-ee's, yeah.
elijah schaffer
You're going to be disrespecting your Texan followers.
Buc-ee's is a truck stop that, like you said, they might've been raptured and maybe heaven's Buc-ee's because Buc-ee's is...
Because Bucky's is just the largest, they wouldn't call it a truck stop, but it really is.
And it's like the only place you can buy like fresh brisket sandwiches and also like possibly... Don't they have like weird cheese things in there?
Yeah, an electric scooter.
It's basically like Target meets Walmart meets truck stop and it's so big.
sydney watson
It has this like a rat thing on the front.
The logo is a rat.
elijah schaffer
What is that, a chipmunk?
And they start at $17 an hour at the cash register, I think, and then go up a little more.
It's $24 an hour.
And nobody, this is what happened.
I know somebody who went there and they were like, they were taking, it was actually Jakob Boyens was taking a picture of the sign that said like starting at $17 an hour for literally having F with it, talents or skills.
You literally don't have nothing for a first job.
And the guy at the cashier was like, don't take a picture of that.
You wouldn't want to work here.
It's horrible.
And it's like, bro, that's what first jobs are.
They're all horrible and people don't want to work.
That's what I'm saying.
tim pool
All right, let's do one more.
Rips... or what does it say? Rips Stikers?
Says... whatever.
Tim always craps on college but fails to or willfully ignores the fact you can major in things like STEM.
He acts like anybody can just teach themselves to be something like a chemical engineer.
Uh, well, no, I'm speaking generally about college because most people aren't going to become chemical engineers.
Most regular people are like bouncing... I think, I think, well, like half of all people will change their majors not
knowing what they want to do.
You get 18 year olds who have no idea what life is because most of them never had a job.
Then you tell them to take out massive amounts of debt, send them to college...
They pick a random major.
That sounds fun I always wanted to be a photographer.
I guess there's no prospects of a job in that capacity They get out with massive debt, and they're like that sucked so the way I see it is I'll be quick on this.
I was told over and over again when I was younger, you gotta go to college.
You have to.
You know why?
Because the story I heard was about how, you know, my friends who went to college were making six figures.
And you know, I didn't.
I just went into the workforce and I was making half that.
That's why you gotta go to college so you can get a good job.
And I'm like, yo, your generation didn't have the social pressures to go to college like you're putting on us.
That means, without that, an entire generation of boomers saying, you have to go to college.
The greatest generation was telling the boomers, do whatever you want to do, have a family.
The people who are passionate about being a chemical engineer said, if I want to be a chemical engineer, I got to go to college.
Went to college to pursue a passion.
Graduated and got the good job they were passionate about.
Now you've got people saying blindly just go to college for who knows what and they can't get jobs and they're saddled with debt and they hate their lives.
So what we need to bring back is telling people not to go to college.
Because we need to treat it like Starship Troopers.
Service guarantees citizenship, but it's not for you.
You shouldn't do this.
And we should be actively encouraging people every step of the way to drop out and quit.
And then only those who truly want it will be like, no, this is for me and nothing will stand in my way.
And the people who are too weak or didn't want to do it in the first place will be like, at least I have no debt.
lydia smith
So I think they have this backwards just like they had the self-esteem thing backwards because they looked at kids who were successful and they said, oh, they have high self-esteem.
This means that kids who have high self-esteem will be successful.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Successful children have high self-esteem because they are successful.
People who went to college for a driving force ended up being successful because they had something that they desperately wanted to do.
People who drift into college because their parents told them to are not going to succeed or be fulfilled because they have it backwards.
tim pool
We have very important conversations to have about the rapture.
So if you wanna see that, go to TimCast.com, become a member, because the bonus member segment will be up around 11 or so p.m.
And you can subscribe, make sure you smash the like button on your way out, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, check out all the awesome news articles we have at TimCast.com.
You can follow the show at TimCastIRL, where we post clips all over the place.
You can follow me personally.
If you wanna see me trolling people on Twitter with, you know, typically garbled nonsense like I said, I tweeted, Joe Biden is the greatest president of this or any generation.
That's right, that's right.
So follow me at Timcast.
Do you guys want to shout out your show and your socials?
elijah schaffer
Go ahead, Sydney.
sydney watson
No, you know I'm bad at it.
Well, I want to shout out my channel because I work very hard.
Sydney Watson, for anybody who's interested, even though obviously Timcast is much more elevated.
But Sydney Watson if you want some cool YouTube videos.
But also, Elijah and I have a brand new show launching actually on the 9th of September.
I'm never good at doing these things.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, you're not.
sydney watson
I'm not.
elijah schaffer
Thanks for admitting it publicly.
At least we have that on the table.
Well, Sydney Watson's creative and called her show Sydney Watson.
Really good stuff right there.
Yeah, and you can follow her everywhere.
You can follow me as well, Elijah Schaefer.
My show is called Slightly Offensive, and it has been really growing.
Thanks to you guys are awesome, and it's been an incredible time.
So check it out.
And this new show is called You Are Here.
So essentially what it is, is like, actually, they originally wanted it at the same time as this show.
sydney watson
And we said no.
elijah schaffer
So essentially, if you're someone this is a little bit of a later show for you, or maybe you want more content, it's gonna be, as of right now, tentatively 6 p.m.
Central for one hour.
We don't get this whole two-hour fun nonsense stuff.
But we're gonna be going over things from the day on just culture, politics, and also just having a great time together in a really fancy-smancy state-of-the-art studio because apparently they thought that was a good idea to give us a whole crew and everything.
sydney watson
Nice studio.
I mean if I think people actually like Elijah my dynamic just because we are We are male members to each other on a regular basis, and we do have I guess a lot of discussions We're actually friends and the key thing is we came up with the idea for the show like check this out Because we were like we want to do a show together.
elijah schaffer
I want to talk about the world and it was like but what's the concept so the concept was like You know when you're a kid in like the 90s and you get lost in a mall and you're just looking for that map.
sydney watson
The information board.
elijah schaffer
And you're looking and you're still kind of confused, but there's a little dot that's like, you are here.
And you can kind of make sense of the world by first thinking of where you are at in relation to the things around you and getting this idea of then finding where you want to go.
And you have to have this center point to know where you are.
And so it's kind of like just the center point daily of where we are.
And I think that's why it's like, unfortunately, it's almost kind of like dystopian.
Like, you are here.
sydney watson
The only drawback is you can't look it up, I don't think.
But I think if you go to our Instagram accounts.
elijah schaffer
If you go to any of our YouTubes, you can find the page.
It's because they haven't given us our URL yet.
sydney watson
Yeah, but you can go and click the buyers in our Instagrams and go and subscribe.
It means a lot to us.
elijah schaffer
Our YouTube videos as well.
All our YouTube videos is in our bios.
sydney watson
Tim's getting mad, so we're going to stop shouting.
elijah schaffer
I didn't do anything.
tim pool
I'm just sitting here.
elijah schaffer
It'll probably be in the bio of this video when it's relaunched too.
tim pool
I was honestly just thinking about video games.
sydney watson
What game?
tim pool
Destiny.
unidentified
No, get out.
sydney watson
I don't know if you guys are RPG gamers, but I just found out they freaking pushed back The New Horizon until like next year.
Really?
tim pool
That's a good game.
sydney watson
Such a good game.
But they made Aloy in the new one.
She's like 45.
unidentified
Wow.
sydney watson
She's not going to be jumping off of stuff.
tim pool
Are you kidding me?
Of course she will.
sydney watson
No, get out.
tim pool
Didn't you see that one Slovenian lady who was in the Olympics for like 30 years?
ian crossland
They're injecting hydrogel into her joints.
sydney watson
I'm not being mean to 45 year old women.
Trust me.
Like you guys, you know, usually what kids by that point, you're like super people, but God, I mean, Aloy in the, in the OG game is like climbing up bloody, like giant structures and killing.
tim pool
Why are they bloody?
sydney watson
Sorry, and they're not... What comes out of machines?
tim pool
Are you getting paid by Horizon?
sydney watson
No, I just really like the game.
It's just such a bloody good game.
It's such a good game.
Sorry, I'll stop.
ian crossland
Is it your favorite game?
sydney watson
No, my favorite game, honestly, is God of War, the 2018 one.
I'm replaying it for like the fourth time.
Yeah, it's so... because I love... boy.
So good.
ian crossland
I haven't played either.
sydney watson
Boy, come here.
I'm coming.
It's cute.
ian crossland
We'll have to go deeper into that.
sydney watson
Tim hates me so much.
tim pool
Hey, we have a website.
ian crossland
Thanks for coming, everyone.
Ian Crossland, you know you can follow me.
And to clarify, your guys' show is going to be Monday through Friday.
sydney watson
Yes.
elijah schaffer
Monday through Friday live.
sydney watson
Live.
elijah schaffer
Like this show.
It's awesome.
ian crossland
An hour before this show begins, and it's like an hour long show.
tim pool
We should do an earlier hour on the show.
We'll call it the Marie Show.
I'm kidding.
sydney watson
Oh my goodness.
Elijah and I will just be like...
elijah schaffer
Yeah, well, we just decided because we were like, why don't we, why don't we take back the internet and start like, instead of it's like, Hey, everyone's got to compete.
Let's just give people more content to watch at times they want to watch it.
And then also too, it's like at the end you can finish watching and then go talk about cows getting.
I think you're stuck in their mouth.
lydia smith
Alright, alright, alright.
ian crossland
Let's do that.
tim pool
IanCrossland.net.
ian crossland
Thank you, Tim.
tim pool
We're going to talk about The Rapture.
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Lydia.
Oh, I'm so excited.
lydia smith
Yeah, I'm also in the corner.
I'm really looking forward to the show from you guys.
I hope you put it into podcast form.
elijah schaffer
It is available.
You are here on podcasts.
lydia smith
Yeah, I'm going to listen to it on my commute for sure.
You guys should follow me on Twitter.com at Sour Patch Lads as I attempt to have more followers than Sour Patch Kids.
This is my goal in life.
Please help me.
tim pool
We will see you all over at TimCast.com around 11 or so p.m.
We'll see what happens.
Thanks for hanging out.
We'll see you next time.
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