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Timcast IRL - BLM Rioters Hit With ONE MILLION Dollar Bond And BOOM Rioting Over
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tim pool
you you
on the Rogan podcast with Donald Trump for four hours.
Cage match debate, moderated, and you know, it'll just be like the greatest thing ever done, ever.
It'll be the highest rated piece of content ever produced, and I really do mean that.
It's probably going to have millions of live viewers.
It'll probably get a hundred million views from people all over the world.
Just these two guys sitting there.
I don't think Joe Biden will do it.
Do you think Joe Biden will do it?
ian crossland
Under the right circumstances, yeah.
tim pool
I don't know.
I think Joe Rogan's gonna be like, here are the terms because we want this to be legit.
And then Biden's gonna be like, all right, I got teleprompter there.
ian crossland
You know, I got... I had a one in seven chance.
tim pool
One in seven?
Is that what you're betting on?
ian crossland
Yeah, it's not very good.
tim pool
Well, if everybody listening right now says, Joe must show on Twitter, because everyone knows Twitter is real life.
lydia smith
Yes.
ian crossland
I'm doing it right now.
unidentified
I will do it too.
tim pool
I will do it right now.
ian crossland
Joe must show.
tim pool
Joe must show.
And then maybe we can get like a trend going or something.
Apparently, apparently it was attached to a different trend.
I can't remember which, which, which, which.
lydia smith
Something about the Harris.
tim pool
The Harris thing.
lydia smith
Harris-Biden campaign.
tim pool
Anyway, anyway, that's the most important thing I can say to start the show.
Just like, this is, this is it.
It's gotta happen.
It'll be the greatest thing ever.
ian crossland
It really would.
tim pool
Welcome to the TimCast IRL podcast.
I'm hanging out with some friends.
We got Ian, he's sitting over here.
ian crossland
Hi.
tim pool
He's just, he's got a, he's got a comic book.
ian crossland
Oh yeah, I do.
tim pool
With swears on it.
ian crossland
This is the S-Posts.
This is by George Alexopoulos.
tim pool
It's just a picture of Nancy Pelosi tearing up Trump's speech.
ian crossland
This is really awesome.
tim pool
Yeah, it's really good, it's really good.
And of course Lydia is here, and she's doing camera stuff.
lydia smith
Yes, I'm here as well.
tim pool
And we're hanging out because we got some really interesting news.
So, I had covered this earlier in the day, that in Lancaster, where the riots had erupted over this dude.
You guys both saw the video of what happened in Lancaster, did you see it?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Where the guy burst out of the door and he's got a knife and he's screaming and like... No.
People noticed that the guy, as he was screaming and waving the knife, looked like one of the dudes from Doom.
Oh, wow.
ian crossland
Like an imp?
tim pool
Well, no.
Actually, is that what it's called?
ian crossland
The first Doom?
tim pool
That's horrifying.
ian crossland
The imps are like the dark-skinned... Wow, really?
tim pool
Is that racist?
ian crossland
Dude, all video games are racist.
tim pool
Maybe that's what the meme was supposed to be, like a racist meme.
Wow.
Well, that's terrible.
I'm really sad this guy died, but I mean, if a guy breaks out of the door and he's waving
a knife and screaming, so the cop did the right thing.
Like right when the cop shows up, this dude breaks out of the door, and then the guy just
bursts through the door and he's got a knife and he's screaming, and then the dude turns
around and runs.
The cop runs.
And then the dude waving the knife.
The cop is running.
He can't run fast enough.
He turns and he shoots the dude with the knife.
Dude with the knife dies.
lydia smith
So part of this is that I don't know if you were aware.
I think I'm sure that you probably were.
But this guy was actually on probation for having stabbed four people.
tim pool
Right.
unidentified
Right.
Yeah.
lydia smith
So he was running around with a knife.
tim pool
Apparently he had stabbed four people in the past, unprovoked.
That's what I was reading.
lydia smith
Yeah, he was a little bit unhinged.
tim pool
So yeah.
ian crossland
So to clarify this, you're saying the cop went into the guy's house?
tim pool
No.
unidentified
No, no, no.
ian crossland
Where did they go?
tim pool
He got a call, he walked to the house, and the dude bursts out of the door like, BAH!
And he's got a knife.
And the cop's like, AHH!
And he runs.
And then the guy's screaming and chasing him, and the cop turns because the guy's gaining on him.
Anyway, we'll get into all this.
A riot, you know, broke out.
So the cops apparently did like late night raids and arrested all of these people.
And now they're apparently being they were arraigned.
Million dollar bond.
Million dollars.
ian crossland
So they went at night when they were went back to their house and went to sleep.
tim pool
I guess.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
We saw videos of like that.
That's what's being claimed.
I haven't seen a lot of stories about it, but I've seen like the Blaze tweeted that there were raids, you know, just real quick.
They pulled up in vans, ran out, grabbed people, cuffed them, brought them in.
One million dollars.
Which means I think they have to pay a hundred grand if they want to get out, which means they're not getting out.
And guess what?
Next day, no riots.
How about that?
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
And no DNC paying to get their bail paid this time?
tim pool
Hundred grand?! !
Yeah, I guess not.
That's like the Minneapolis-Minnesota bail fund thing.
And the Democrats were all about it back then.
No, no, they're not going to pay the stuff now because they're freaking out because of it.
But here's something interesting.
So it's being claimed now that one of the dudes who got arrested worked for a news company.
He didn't.
He didn't.
He worked for the parent company.
So there is Lancaster's biggest online news source.
He worked for the parent company doing like client services or something.
Kind of related.
And then other people noticed that this news outlet is actually producing favorable content to Antifa.
ian crossland
Oh.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
So what's the parent company do?
tim pool
It's called LNP.
They do everything.
ian crossland
They just own a bunch of things?
tim pool
Yeah, you know, I think it's fair to say it probably is a news company in the sense that all of the other things they do are like client services, like advertising and SEO and stuff, which is arguably peripheral to the news outlet.
Or you can argue the news outlet is meant to advertise their parent service.
ian crossland
Yeah, geez, great news.
tim pool
But, regardless, the dude probably worked in an office with a bunch of the same people, and he's going out and rioting with Black Lives Matter, so I'm not going to say he's Antifa, but probably sympathetic to the far left.
So anyway, we're going to read this, we're going to go into all this stuff, we've got all that stuff set up, and I don't want to go too far into it.
We've got a bunch of other stories.
Major breaking news!
A man took a dump on Nancy Pelosi's driveway.
ian crossland
Hold the horses.
Stop the engines.
tim pool
Yeah, this is huge.
Breaking.
ian crossland
That's so gross.
tim pool
Huge news.
Actually, so when I first heard this story, I was kind of grossed out.
I was like, what?
unidentified
What the?
tim pool
Why?
And then someone made a really, really important point.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Pooping on the street in San Francisco is legal.
ian crossland
What?
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Why?
ian crossland
Because of the homeless population.
tim pool
Yeah.
He got detained.
He didn't get arrested.
ian crossland
You know, I've heard it's not the poop that's dangerous.
It's the stuff that grows on the poop.
tim pool
I think San Francisco is the only major city with a poop department, like a fire department.
unidentified
Third world.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, you know, we have like a fire department, we pay our taxes, and they're like, oh, there's a fire, and they come out and they spray it with water.
Well, San Francisco has a poop department.
I'm not joking.
This is not a joke.
This is not a joke.
There's poop, and then someone goes like, we got poop over here, and then the poop squad comes, and the poop department, and they spray it, and they clean it up.
Poop patrol?
Well, I think they do call it poop patrol.
Yeah.
unidentified
Whoa!
tim pool
But I think poop department is, uh, feces department?
ian crossland
You gotta have it.
You have to have one though.
tim pool
No, you shouldn't have to have one.
lydia smith
I don't have one here.
tim pool
But they do need one.
But we got a bunch of other stories too.
Jim Cramer called Nancy Pelosi crazy Nancy.
And we're going to talk about mail-in voting being broken and everyone knows it.
And all the journalists know it, but for some reason the political journalists are like, Trump without evidence said mail-in voting works.
It's like, dude, we got it all busted up.
But I'll tell you what right now.
We're going to talk about what happened with the rioting.
We'll go through this stuff and I'll show you the arrest reports.
But Rasmussen found that a lot of people have experienced violence from these riots and it's going to affect their vote.
And The Atlantic wrote an article.
They've been screaming in our faces, the Democrats, that if Joe Biden doesn't win, they are going to get violent.
lydia smith
Get violent?
tim pool
They're going to get more violent.
They're going to come and they're going to smash everything up.
So, let's jump right in.
Before we get started, make sure you smash that like button, subscribe, hit the notification bell, and tweet out hashtag JoeMustShow followed by Joe Biden on the Rogan Experience with Donald Trump.
Four hours, we demand it.
ian crossland
It's going to be great.
And hey, share this video right now with your friends.
lydia smith
Correct.
unidentified
Fire it out.
lydia smith
It's really trending.
tim pool
Alright, so check this out.
First, let me just show you this right here.
Check it out.
This is from Lancaster Crime Watch PA.
For those that aren't familiar, there was some rioting in Lancaster.
And for those that aren't familiar, because you live under a rock, there's been rioting sweeping across this country for quite some time.
It has a lot to do with Black Lives Matter, overlaps a little bit with Antifa, and whenever there's some kind of police shooting, regardless of the circumstances, people riot.
Like in Chicago, there was a dude who, I guess he was shooting at cops, and they shot back and injured him and shot him in the shoulder.
And then everyone just went out looting and rioting and destroying everything.
ian crossland
When did this start?
Like, a year ago?
tim pool
Six months?
I mean, it started in 2012 with Trayvon Martin, I guess.
ian crossland
Okay.
tim pool
But then it's escalated to the point where it's like, you got people sitting there waiting, you know, and they're like, what's that?
A shooting?
For what reason?
Who cares?
And they rob the door.
ian crossland
When they fire back and they try and protect themselves, and then there's a riot because of that.
That's really weird.
tim pool
Dude, Lancaster PA is a cop running away from the dude.
So in Lancaster, the guy burst out of his house with a knife, and the cop runs!
And then the cop can't get away, so the cop turns and shoots the guy.
Anyway, this resulted in rioting, of course.
Well, a bunch of arrests got made, and according to The Blaze and some reporters on the ground, the cops did like a methodical, you know, I don't want to call it a snatch-and-grab, like the activists have been calling it, because they were in marked vehicles.
They pulled up and they were like, you're under arrest, because you are rioting, and then they arrest these people.
And here's the latest we got.
This is from LancasterCrimeWatchPA.com.
I don't know how credible this is, but this does fall in line with a lot of other stories, and it has photos.
So, I do have the mainstream story here, the local outlet, PennLive, and it does mention all these same people.
So check this out.
They say, this is a press release.
This press release has been edited to reflect updates of the information released to the public.
Those edits updates for September 15th are, booking photos that were not included in the original release have been added.
Bail information that was not available at the time of the original release has been added.
and of course they have these uh... people's uh... information so just very quickly officers made a total of eight arrests uh... one uh... it was twelve and whoa the updated total is twelve adults and one juvenile wow so some more related to the arson and riot outside the police station the arrests were made at approximately oh three hundred hours and shortly thereafter so the cops roll up at three a.m.
and arrest these people's all suspects were arrested All suspects arrested were transported to the Lancaster Bureau of Police Station for processing and to be held for arraignment.
Four of the eight suspects are from outside of Lancaster County.
Two of the suspects were armed with handguns during the protest and riot.
Those handguns were recovered by officers after the arrests.
Only Montague was charged with an offense related to illegal possession of a firearm.
As of the time of this press release, not all the suspects have completed the booking process, and their booking photos are not yet available.
This release will be updated when those photos are available.
Not all suspects have been arraigned, and bail information may not yet be available.
All charges were filed by Lt.
Phil Berkheiser.
And before I show any photos, I have to stress, innocent until proven guilty.
It's entirely possible that the cops just arrested a bunch of people they knew were there and then everybody gets blanket charges.
I don't think that's necessarily going to be the case because that would be speculative as well.
But I just want to stress that sometimes people get arrested and cops give them charges and they maybe made a mistake or sometimes they falsely accuse people.
It happens because I've personally filmed them do this.
But here we go, check this out.
First we got this guy.
This is Jamal Sheriff Newman.
One million dollars bail.
Then we got this guy, Barry Jones.
One million dollars.
This dude, Frank Gaston, was actually on probation, so I guess he's just going back to prison.
This dude is, uh, Yahshua Dwayne Montague.
unidentified
$1,000,000.
tim pool
This guy, Matthew Moderman.
$1,000,000.
Now this guy's important.
Check this out.
Charged with arson, institutional vandalism, riot, failure to disperse, obstructing a highway and other public passages, disorderly conduct, and defiant trespass.
Additional counts of criminal conspiracy for all charges as included in the complaint.
unidentified
$1,000,000!
tim pool
These people are not getting out!
Tala Gessner, $1,000,000.
Katherine Patterson, $1,000,000.
Taylor Enterline, $1,000,000.
Look at all this.
And then the rest of them haven't been arraigned yet.
But here's the breaking story.
So first, we got to focus on this guy, Matthew Moderin.
This is the guy who's getting all the attention, and I'll show you why, but first.
The Daily Caller.
You want to give that a quick read?
unidentified
Yeah, sure.
What does that say?
ian crossland
Lancaster.
Peaceful after night of unrest following officer-related shooting.
tim pool
Huh.
I wonder what would have happened that led to peace.
Could it be that at three in the morning, the police showed up, arrested the people who were engaging in arson and vandalism, arrested them, and then the judge said, you're staying here until trial.
ian crossland
Yeah, there are some instances where cutting the head off the snake works.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
This kind of thing.
lydia smith
This is a perfect example, yeah.
tim pool
In Portland, they're just releasing them.
So, yeah, if the cop sees a guy and he's throwing firebombs and they arrest him and the DA's like, mm, I didn't see a firebomb, and releases him, then they're gonna go back out and the cop's gonna be like, yo, that's the guy I arrested yesterday.
ian crossland
And they'll be like, hey, the cops aren't gonna bust you if you come out with us tonight, because they let us all go last night.
Exactly.
tim pool
And they, what do they call it?
I forgot what they called it.
Oh, I forgot.
They even have terminology for it, explaining what it means when you get arrested, and then they release you immediately without charge in Portland.
Yeah, they've written about it.
And so that led to ongoing unrest.
This is a really tricky issue, though.
I mean, people are innocent until proven guilty, right?
And so one of the things that the left has been pushing has been cashless bail.
Where the idea is, it's not fair to arrest someone, accuse them of a crime, they've not been proven guilty, and then you demand they pay if they want to get out of jail.
ian crossland
And then in that case, would they get their money back if it turned out they were innocent?
tim pool
Yes, that's how it works.
So it's like, you put up 10%, and then they release you, and then when the trial's over, you get your money back or whatever, and you can put up, I think you can put up like hard assets too, I'm not super familiar.
But the issue is, I think it's fair when the left says, Locking up poor people once they can pay is unfair because rich people can pay.
Yeah So sometimes the judge will be like I understand this person's rich So we're gonna set the number really high so that it's you know The idea is if you give all this money, you're not gonna want to run away from it So it should be like a percentage of your net worth or something No, but the judges have that discretion.
The judge will be like, this man's worth, you know, he makes millions of dollars per year, so bail set is a million dollars, you can easily put up the hundred grand, you're rich.
And then they roll their eyes and go, ugh, fine.
But these people, they're probably all poor.
There's no way they're gonna pay that.
So the judge was basically saying, I'm not going to let you out.
ian crossland
That's great.
tim pool
But they're being, it's interesting, right?
So here's the security versus freedom problem.
It's them basically being like, we're locking you up, you can't go.
Even though you've not been proven to be guilty.
lydia smith
A lot of what I've been seeing against this is that this is a violation of the 8th Amendment.
And I'd be curious for your take on that.
tim pool
What's the 8th?
lydia smith
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel or unusual punishments inflicted.
What do you think about that?
tim pool
Interesting.
I mean, why didn't the judge just remand them because of the nature of the crime?
lydia smith
I don't know.
tim pool
So that's the other issue, too.
It's like, while I can certainly say, you're right, Eighth Amendment, that's interesting.
A million dollars?
You know you can't pay that.
That's insane.
However, there's also, we have courts for a reason.
They look at this and they say, look, the cops are putting their word on the line that you were starting fires and were acting violently, and so you're not going to be let go, and then we'll have a trial to determine, you know, If you're guilty or not.
It makes sense.
If somebody stole a lollipop from a liquor store or something, they walked in and they snatched it and they run away down the street and they get arrested for a petty crime, you get a citation or something.
Usually, some cops might not even arrest you.
They might be like, give me the lollipop back, give it to the guy.
Or they might be like, can you pay him?
Sometimes it really does work out like that.
But maybe you're shoplifting and you get arrested.
They'll say, okay, don't shoplift again.
A lot of these people will still go out and do it, you know, and so I guess the challenge is we're in this circumstance where you have violent offenders.
We want to protect freedom and security, but we also want to protect our freedom and security as well.
So what happens?
You get caught at a riot, people are rioting, you ain't gonna get let out.
ian crossland
There's something to, like, a violent criminal getting busted and then going in and having, like, their bail set.
But then when eight violent criminals do eight versions of the crime all together in the same night, it starts to become a kind of, it seems like a conspiracy.
Like, they're working together to do that.
tim pool
Well, that's why they said conspiracy charges were added on.
That was a local Crimewatch blog, so it was a press release.
Unfortunately, by the time we were looking at the bail, it was after hours.
I couldn't call for a comment or anything like that.
But here's where it gets interesting.
So first of all, Lancaster was peaceful.
Surprise, surprise.
The cops were telling the truth.
So you look at Portland, if they actually arrested the people, the cops were like, hey, these guys are setting fires.
If you actually just held them and said, we're not going to release you because you're violent criminals, you've been arrested.
I mean, also, I just got to say some of the same people were getting arrested over and over again in Portland.
At a certain point, the judge is going to be like, OK, you've been arrested four times in the past week.
I'm not letting you out.
We're going to remand bail because you're a violent criminal.
But so apparently one of these guys works.
So check this out.
This guy, Matthew Moderman, works for a group called LNP Media Group.
works and so it is also listed on PennLive. They mention all the people got arrested and
yes Matthew Moderman is listed. And he does in fact work for a group called LNP Media
Group, Lancaster Online. So LNP Media Group owns a site, Lancaster Online, and they say
it's the number one news website for Lancaster County with over one million unique visitors
That's crazy!
A million uniques?
That's probably people from outside of Lancaster who are reading this news.
Well, the guy apparently works there.
If you do a Google search, you will find that there is, first of all, LinkedIn.
Oh, no, that's not him.
That's someone else.
LinkedIn, it shows Matthew Modder and LNP Media Group.
What do you think happens if I click this, though?
unidentified
It's broken.
ian crossland
I'll go right to his page.
tim pool
Oh, no, it's not.
shocking no results found the page you requested could not be found try
refining your search or using well hold on what if I use a a cached version
ian crossland
Yeah, there it is.
lydia smith
Oh, snap.
tim pool
Yeah, see, I know how to pull up that cache.
You click the little down arrow, and then you pick the cached version.
lydia smith
Yeah, man.
tim pool
And there we go.
Matthew Moderin was a client services rep for LNP Media Group.
Your campaign craftsman, former rugby athlete, always learning.
I can only assume that the same guy is the one who got arrested.
There's probably a chance it wasn't.
ian crossland
There is a chance.
But that's a safe assumption.
tim pool
I think it's a safe assumption.
And this LNP Media Group, he did client services, but they do own Lancaster Online.
So a lot of people were saying that he was a journalist with a local news outlet.
I don't think that's fair to say.
He's not a journalist.
But he did work at this company.
And so it's interesting then, imagine if, because maybe it's not the case, but imagine you have this news outlet that has, you do a Google search for their stories and they don't really have anything much about Antifa.
To be fair, I mean, maybe it's because Antifa's not really in Lancaster.
But it does seem like a lot of their stories that do talk about the culture war and the conflict and the violence are actually pro-leftist.
And so they talk about, like, there's one story about the Antifa hunter getting prison, you know, getting prison time or whatever, getting jail time, getting arrested.
And there are other stories about, you know, white groups or whatever.
But nothing I could find about Antifa.
And there's actually a letter to the editor saying, where's the Antifa coverage?
lydia smith
Ah, that was interesting to me.
tim pool
So I'm not insinuating anything other than I think there's a bias in the media.
And when you got a guy who works for this company, at least that's what he claims on his LinkedIn, assuming it's the same guy getting arrested, literally rioting, charged with arson, and then they pull his information off the website...
Yeah, you know what, man?
These people are in the bag for the far left.
ian crossland
This company?
tim pool
No, no, I just mean media in general.
They're urban centers.
They're liberal elites.
ian crossland
I think if they had to pick a side, they would pick the far left.
The unfortunate thing is they don't have to pick a side, and they're just choosing to.
tim pool
Well, they want to.
They want to choose a side.
ian crossland
Because it's fun?
Because it sells clicks?
tim pool
I think it's because...
People always choose a side.
Even back in the day, you know, before the culture or whatever, there were sides.
There was America versus Russia.
Whose side are you on?
Of course, everybody here, for the most part, was on the side of the U.S., but there were pro-communist people in the U.S., and it was really easy to pick your side.
So, everybody just wants to fit in.
So, if you're one of these people who just reads the news and you just watch CNN, you think the real world and normal people all hate Donald Trump.
Everybody hates the man.
How could he possibly win?
It turns out there's a large group of people who like Donald Trump and don't like the Democrats.
ian crossland
It's amazing how your scope, like you can zoom in by watching something a lot and your scope like shrinks into that and that becomes your main size.
But then you can like zoom out and see there's CNN, there's Fox, there's stuff like this.
But it's easy to like hyper focus and like zoom out.
tim pool
It's not so much about hyper focus.
What I think is happening Is that many of these people on the left are surrounded by people and they want to be normal.
They want to be the same.
They want to be in the click, right?
lydia smith
Peer pressure.
tim pool
Well, I mean, not even necessarily peer pressure, just like in-group.
You know, in-group versus out-group.
So if you're sitting in a room, in a newsroom, and all the journalists are going like, proud boys, am I right?
Yeah, high five!
Come on!
unidentified
Do it!
Yeah!
tim pool
That's so dumb.
Trump is so stupid, isn't he?
He doesn't even do anything.
And you're sitting there, and you're like a marketing guy, and you're going, yeah, Trump is dumb.
And you have no idea.
But everyone around you, they're all saying the same thing.
And so they watch CNN, CNN made a choice.
But now there's other ways to absorb media, and there's also Fox News.
So I think people like this, they would choose the far left because they don't think it's the far left.
They think it's normal and regular people.
In their mind, everyone is out in the suburbs going, Biden, woohoo!
When in reality, they're all going, Trump!
Trump!
Trump!
But they believe they're on the right side.
Trump support is a really interesting thing about media consumption.
Conservatives are under no illusion, for the most part.
They believe there's a silent majority, but they're recognizing quite literally there are not a lot of vocal people supporting them.
That's why there's the idea of the silent majority.
They do believe they're on the right side, but they recognize there's a large group of people who hate them, who hate Trump, and the media hates them.
ian crossland
It seems like it's like these, if you want to call it far left or whatever, but there's this group of like, deluded people that think Biden's awesome, or that think a bad choice is better than Trump.
There's this group of those people, and then there's everyone else, and all these other people are getting called conservative.
tim pool
Yeah, isn't it crazy?
ian crossland
I'm in that group.
I'm not like a die-hard conservative.
lydia smith
Not even close, my goodness.
tim pool
You look like a hippie.
ian crossland
I don't fit with that far-left narrative, that weird, like, let's just do the bad thing, man, because I'm so sad.
tim pool
The crazy thing to me is that There's so many people that I know from, like, Occupy Wall Street that I can't believe have found themselves wrapped up in this weird far-left insanity.
Because during Occupy, there were very few people who committed violence.
Very, very few.
I'm sorry, in New York.
New York didn't have a ton of, like, riot police and tear gas.
They had cops wearing helmets and batons and didn't even wear armor or anything.
They'd have batons and they'd push, they'd wear gloves.
The Occupy people, like the bulk of everything that happened during Occupy, was running through the streets.
That was it.
And the cops would arrest people running through the streets.
I always found it kind of weird, it's like, a group of people are running through the street, oh no!
In 30 seconds the cars can move on.
But the cops would chase after them and they'd make arrests and people would yell.
And there wasn't a lot of actual, like, attempts to hurt people.
But there were.
Some, we called them, we just called them the Black Bloc, the Black Bloc anarchists.
There was a small group of them.
And I actually got one of the organizers from Occupy hitting me up asking me if I needed security to protect me from these people.
These are Occupy Walsh people being like, hey, we love what you do.
This was back when I was like, I'm not going to just film things to make you look good.
I'll film the police.
I'll film the protesters.
If they act a fool, then you get on camera.
And they're like, we get it.
We totally get it.
And then when I started getting attacked by these, what we would now call Antifa types, they were like, do you need security to help you to stop these guys from attacking you?
And the idea was the mainstream press was lying about what Occupy was and what they were doing, and so they appreciated, even if it made them look bad, that I was down there and others were providing some kind of coverage that at least showed the truth, or at least as close as you could get to it from just my lens.
They actually protected me from these people.
Today, there's a lot of these people that have just totally jumped on board with the lunatics running around, smashing everything and attacking people.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
And I think Occupy, man, we almost had the cops join us.
I was there.
You know, I was into that whole social.
In New York?
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't think the New York cops were going to join Occupy.
ian crossland
I think the police nationwide were very close to calling out the banking industry.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
But?
ian crossland
But because of the violence of what we're seeing now, they're not anywhere near joining this.
tim pool
I was told by someone from Youngstown, Ohio, and I've never verified this, so if you're listening, you definitely want to fact check this.
They said that in Youngstown, the police and the firefighters were in with the protesters.
And the city was like, oh, what do we do?
What do we do?
And the firefighters were marching and protesting, and the cops were too.
And then all of a sudden, one day, the cops got every demand met.
And the cops immediately turned around and said, get out of here!
Everybody disperse!
ian crossland
Bribery is a powerful force.
Do not let yourself get bribed, my friends.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
My mates.
tim pool
So anyway, yeah, so the main reason I bring this up is we have these bubbles in media where they're all exciting each other.
Like, I don't know if you've ever experienced this phenomenon, either of you guys, where you get three people in a room and leave them in a room for a long time and you seed one person a negative story.
You know, you tell them something like, you know, strawberries are actually bad for you.
And then they all start talking about how they hate, he says, I hate strawberries.
Yeah, me too.
And then after a month of them just recycling the same anger and rage over strawberries, they end up screaming, destroy all the strawberries, and they're like smashing the walls and going to supermarkets and flipping tables.
I'm exaggerating.
The point I'm making is, you put a group of people in a closed space where they can recycle this hate and spin it faster and faster and faster, then they go insane.
ian crossland
And is it something to do with an odd number of people where you have a majority always going at a minority?
tim pool
No, I don't think that's it.
I think there's a really great video by CGP Grey called This Video Will Make You Angry, where he talks about how you have groups of people that claim to be opposed to each other, but really just share information among each other about how the other is bad and never actually interact with the other side.
ian crossland
Yeah, I would love to see people interact more, like Trump and Biden, or like people that do- Bro.
That's what we need right now.
tim pool
Politics flows in one direction.
If you are on the left, you are very likely going to be attacked at some point.
And the right is sitting there waving you over, saying, we don't care what your politics are, come hang out with us!
The right actually has, like, I shouldn't say the right, but they're like the anti-SJW.
Yeah, that's what it is.
Actually has, like, dirtbag leftists who are like, we agree on that.
Like, you can actually have someone who's very, like, progressive in an economic sense agreeing with a hardcore Trump supporter because they think the far left has gone insane.
Particularly, like, the cuties thing.
Seeing, like, Marxists on Twitter be like, NO!
ian crossland
Yeah, and maybe we need stuff like that in society so that it gives us something to unify against.
Like, to see how crazy things really can get.
Like, that's something we can all get down with.
tim pool
That's why Ozymandias man-staged an alien invasion.
ian crossland
Ozymandias?
Oh, that ancient ruler?
tim pool
No, from Watchmen.
He staged the alien invasion.
ian crossland
Oh, false flag.
tim pool
Right, so that the Cold War ended and all that stuff.
So anyway, not to go off on a tangent, we've got to jump to the next portion of this, what the riots will all turn into, especially when you have media outlets that are sitting in these rooms agreeing with each other, we hate Trump.
Listen, I'll give you the short version.
Writing about Trump in a negative light makes money.
So newsrooms are constantly looking for negative stories about Trump.
That eventually catches some Antifa rhetoric into the mix, and now you have these newsrooms of clicks just spinning faster and faster.
Because their editor was like, can you write anything about how Trump is bad?
They're like, yes.
Then they're sitting there and the marketing guy is like, What happened?
Yeah, did you hear?
Trump's totally worse than Hitler.
Oh, he is?
That's crazy.
And now you've got this rhetoric building up in the newsroom.
And these people absorb this all day, every day, non-stop.
Because the bosses are like, it makes money, keep feeding them, keep shoveling it in.
And all they do is they're told, look for stories about Trump being bad.
Eventually it blows up.
Figuratively.
So let's do this.
Let's talk about what this means come election time.
Before we do, tweet out hashtag Joe must show and include Joe Biden must join the Joe Rogan podcast with Donald Trump for a four hour moderated debate.
I wonder if Joe's going to be like, what's Tim doing?
He's really pushing.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Should I be?
Should I be telling everybody?
unidentified
Sure, we all should be.
ian crossland
Yeah, we need more debate.
tim pool
Dude, Joe Rogan said he would moderate this, and I hope he wasn't just, you know, like, kind of saying it.
I hope he was serious.
ian crossland
He was serious.
tim pool
Because Trump was like— You should find out.
Trump said he'll do it.
Yeah, that would be great.
And it would be the greatest thing ever, so hashtag JoeMustShow, and that would be epic.
ian crossland
That's what we need, debate.
He's a great listener, too.
unidentified
He is.
ian crossland
That's what makes him a good moderator.
He doesn't shove questions.
lydia smith
But he does ask incisive questions.
ian crossland
Oh yeah.
lydia smith
He's like, so what do you think about this?
ian crossland
The fear factor guy.
tim pool
Somebody said the first thing that's gonna happen is Joe's gonna be like, why the F is pot still illegal?
ian crossland
Have you ever smoked DMT?
Have you ever smoked DMT?
tim pool
They're both gonna say no.
ian crossland
Well, yeah, they'll probably both say no.
tim pool
The reason why it would be so amazing is because you're finally going to hear questions asked of both of them.
You wouldn't hear from anyone else anywhere else.
ian crossland
Psychedelics, that's a big conversation on mental health.
tim pool
Aliens, robots, AI, Neuralink.
You know what we're going to get at the debates?
Trump, your policy on Iraq has been to withdraw.
Now, Biden, you've also talked about withdrawing, but you believe we need a small... It's like, I get it!
ian crossland
They'll talk about pardons.
tim pool
They wrote it all down.
ian crossland
He just had Snowden on the show today.
Rogan did.
tim pool
And Trump agreed!
You know what that means?
That's crazy.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
Joe's gonna be like, oh man, you should pardon Edward Snowden.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
And then Trump's gonna be like, well, we're looking, he's like, well, you should look into it, you should also pardon Assange, and then Trump's gonna be like, okay, well, and then Rogan's gonna be like, didn't you say you loved WikiLeaks, like, back when you were campaigning?
Like, it's gonna be real conversation.
ian crossland
Yeah, that's what we need.
unidentified
Epic.
lydia smith
That's gonna be so much fun.
tim pool
Anyway.
lydia smith
I would love it.
tim pool
We were talking about riots.
unidentified
Yes!
tim pool
Smash the like button!
Or we will riot!
Pound on the table!
Until the UFO collapses!
Smash that like button, subscribe, and get in your superchats if you want.
We're gonna address superchats later.
But we got this poll!
From S. Mewson!
Check this out.
So I'm sure for those that are just tuning in, just for those that don't have the context, you're aware that riots have been happening.
We just went over how in Lancaster they had these riots.
lydia smith
Lancaster.
tim pool
Lancaster?
lydia smith
I'm told.
Lancaster.
tim pool
Lancaster.
lydia smith
Oh, and it's Poo-ya-lup.
ian crossland
We were saying that.
Poo-ya-lup.
tim pool
We can't pronounce words on this show.
What do we look like?
Okay, anyway, Lancaster?
lydia smith
Lancaster.
tim pool
Okay, fine.
Someone's tricking us.
lydia smith
I think so.
I think they're pulling the wool over our eyes.
But I've seen it a few times.
Lancaster.
tim pool
I don't know.
Google it.
lydia smith
Google the pronunciation.
tim pool
Someone trying to pull a fast one on us?
Anyway, there were riots in this central PA town about 60 miles west of Philadelphia.
And they did 3 a.m.
raids, gave these people a million dollars bond, and poof, the riots are gone.
ian crossland
Yes.
tim pool
So interestingly, one of the rebuttals, I guess, from the journalist class, which are totally out of touch with America, has been, the riots have been small.
I can walk around my tent and everything's fine.
There's a video I love.
It's this dude in like a wealthy area of New York, and he's filming himself fake crying, going, oh, it's so miserable in New York.
unidentified
Look, people are eating sandwiches at restaurants and people having ice cream.
tim pool
And then he pans a little more and at the ice cream shop it's called Big Gay Ice Cream.
And he goes, gay ice cream!
And then he's like walking, fake crying.
And then he stops and he goes, stop watching Fox News.
You know why I think it's hilarious?
Imagine going to, like, a garbage dump, and then going to the front office, where it's actually a building, and there's, like, a PlayStation, and the guy's sitting there, and he's playing games, and you're like, I'm at a garbage dump!
This guy's got, like, he's got, like, a Coke machine, he's got PlayStation, it's so nice!
And then out back, it's just flaming trash and garbage everywhere.
You get these people who go to the wealthiest areas, and they're like, everything's fine!
I'm atop my ivory tower and I've noticed no problems with riding in the streets.
ian crossland
Yeah, that's the Chinese Uyghur people have been hitting me up on Twitter saying it's
not real, it's Western media propaganda.
I've went to Xinjiang, I think is the place.
And I toured, where I went it was fine, so that means that it's not happening.
tim pool
Potemkin villages.
ian crossland
Right, yeah.
tim pool
It's all fake.
So here's the poll.
They like to claim that everything's fine.
That, you know, look, the protests are in a small area.
Well, check it out.
Three out of four voters who've had violent anti-police protests in their community rate those protests important to their vote in the presidential election.
Among these voters, a sizable majority like the job the president is doing.
The latest recipes and reports, national telephone and online survey finds that 42% of likely U.S.
voters have had anti-police protests in their community this summer.
Nearly half of these voters say the protests in their community have turned violent.
Among all voters, 65% say the violent protests are important to their vote in the presidential election this fall, with 41% who say it's very important.
Among those who have had violent protests in their community even more, 76% rate them important to their vote, including 54% who say they are very important.
63% of these votes strongly approve of the job Trump is doing, versus 35% who strongly disapprove.
Now I'm going to stop right there.
Where are these riots taking place?
Are they taking place in the countryside?
ian crossland
I don't think so.
tim pool
Are they showing up to Amish town?
Not yet.
ian crossland
No.
tim pool
Are they showing up to small conservative church areas?
ian crossland
Negative.
tim pool
No, they're in urban areas.
They're in urban and suburban areas, and Donald Trump needs to win the suburbs.
lydia smith
Interesting.
tim pool
Yeah, this is very interesting, isn't it?
So these people who are answering this and saying they've experienced these violent protests, I'm willing to bet a large portion of them.
It makes sense, right?
Why it says 42% have had anti-police protests in their community.
Yes.
Because the other 58 live in areas outside of rural areas, right?
ian crossland
How many people did they poll for this, by the way?
unidentified
2,000?
ian crossland
Like, this is ridiculous.
tim pool
What do you mean?
ian crossland
How many people got polled?
I didn't get polled.
unidentified
1,000.
1,000 people.
tim pool
That's normal, though.
ian crossland
So okay, these numbers are just like, you could almost call them irrelevant.
tim pool
I disagree.
First of all, I will say, in the sense that the polls have been wild and outrageous across the board, yeah.
Rasmussen actually was the most, one of, if not the most accurate in 2016 as per the national popular results.
They nailed it.
They got it right.
ian crossland
When you measure a thousand people's beliefs, that doesn't mean that you just times ten it.
People are so different everywhere you go.
tim pool
It's true.
It's true.
But they're not just calling a thousand people in New York and then being like, well, there we go.
They're selecting a bunch of different areas and then grabbing a few people from each.
And then they do.
It's just it's how polls work.
ian crossland
Inductive reasoning.
tim pool
So, I mean, you can argue the polls are bunk.
ian crossland
I will.
tim pool
And, yeah, yeah, yeah, and I think it's fair, actually, because we've seen a lot of bunk polls.
In fact, I was commenting on this earlier today, the real clear politics average for Trump, it's like, plus 3, minus 17, minus 6, minus 14, and I'm like...
What's with that insane swing?
ian crossland
It's because they'll poll, like, 2,000 people, and then 6,000 people, and 1,000.
It's like, there's 350 million of us.
If you're going to poll 0 trillionth of a percent of a population, you're going to get vastly inaccurate data.
tim pool
I disagree.
I think the polling they do, like, they break it down and explain to you exactly how they did it.
It was a survey of a thousand likely U.S.
voters conducted September 9th to the 10th, 2020.
The margin of sampling error is plus three, minus three, with a 95% level of confidence, fieldwork, blah, blah, blah.
They go through all of this stuff.
Like, they break down their methodology for how they zoom in on one area, interview a couple people, and then zoom out and then look at other areas.
So you can argue that it's definitely like a game of Sudoku, where they're like looking at all these people and then trying to fill in the gaps, but there's a margin of error.
What a lot of people don't understand is that the polls in 2016 were not actually all wrong.
It was the pundit class that were like, if Hillary Clinton's up two points, Trump will never win.
And then he did.
And he lost the popular vote.
And Rasmussen got it right.
Rasmussen said she was going to win plus two.
Hillary Clinton, plus two.
So, look, you can argue that the polls are wrong.
lydia smith
Or very small.
tim pool
But sure.
But I think this makes sense.
And we'll extrapolate from there.
So first, 42% of likely voters have had anti-police protests in their community.
I think that makes sense.
ian crossland
Yeah, that sounds accurate.
tim pool
Because you've got to realize a lot of people are in densely packed urban centers.
So you get 10 protesters marching through the street and 10,000 people are going to be like, whoa, we've got protests on the street.
And then you've got 58%, which are suburban and rural, who probably would never see these.
However, a lot of the rural people are watching the news and going like, man, that's crazy, you know, sending the cops, arrest these people.
But the fact that, you know, so 48% said they turned violent.
So that's like just shy half of those who saw a protest, saw a violent protest.
That's intense.
Again, assuming the polls are accurate.
Among all voters, 65% say it's important to their vote in the election.
I have to imagine these people are probably suburban voters.
I think if you take like a New York liberal progressive, they're gonna watch the riots and go, woohoo!
Yay!
And they're gonna lie about it.
And they're gonna vote Biden because they hate Trump and it's tribalist.
But you take suburban voters who don't know, don't care, like actually a good example is this.
The New York Times went to Kenosha and they interviewed some guy who was like, I don't know anything about politics and I don't care, but man, these riots, wow, that's so messed up.
Now this person's going to be going to the voting booth being like, I don't know, man, we need Trump to come in and just arrest these people.
ian crossland
Right.
You don't change your, your chief of, uh, you know, your chief of command during a conflict.
That's kind of, you know, part and parcel for United States government, just government in general.
You don't rarely change your commander in chief when you're at a war.
And if people see this as a domestic war, they're not going to want to change their commander.
tim pool
I mean, that's true, but imagine this.
Let's say a Trump-Biden debate.
Perhaps on Joe Rogan, hashtag JoeMustShow.
Yes.
And, you know, Joe's like, yo, we're watching videos of these riots, man, this is crazy.
And then Joe Biden's gonna be like, I condemn the riots, I called out the violence.
And then Trump's gonna be like, excuse me, you never said Black Lives Matter or Antifa, excuse me, your campaign, no, no, Joe, your campaign bailed these people out.
That's true.
ian crossland
Dude, Trump's on the pulse.
He's been following this stuff like a search dog.
tim pool
Dude, Trump is the Internet's candidate.
Yeah.
He's online.
His staff are online.
They're plugged into what people are talking about.
The problem is the online left is totally insane.
ian crossland
I know.
tim pool
They're crazy.
ian crossland
It's so weird.
I love Rachel Maddow.
I used to really like her and appreciate what she does.
She just kind of went nuts with the Russiagate stuff in 2016.
I was so disappointed and like, where are you taking these millions of people, Rachel?
Why?
Why?
Look at the broad scale.
tim pool
And they banned Alex Jones.
And they banned him.
I mean, the crazy thing about all that is, when Alex Jones goes on and says, like, you know, people, the cell towers are mutating people into cows, or whatever, he's, I don't know.
I watched the Juggling Podcast episode with him, he talked about, like, animal hybrids.
It's like, dude, I was in Sweden, and I heard, I'm at a Thai restaurant with my friend Emily, and we were doing this project, and all of a sudden we heard Alex Jones, and we're like, What?
And we turn around and there's three young dudes laughing as Alex Jones is like ripping his shirt off.
People knew a lot of what he was doing was silly entertainment.
It was like WWE.
He's talking about crazy stuff that people found funny.
But Rachel Maddow, she's a serious newswoman.
ian crossland
Right.
tim pool
So when she comes out and says, Russia is coming to get you.
Everyone's like, Oh yeah.
ian crossland
She's got a lot of people believe her, like right on her every word.
And I have friends from LA.
I was in LA, you know, the heart of the liberal madness.
Incubus at the time, 2012 through 2016, it was where it was really, really becoming insidious.
And they, they love that girl out there.
tim pool
So, whether or not people are really experiencing this stuff, the viral videos, I think, are making their rounds.
So, some people may not have actually seen a violent protest or riot.
I'm sure they've seen the videos of it, though.
ian crossland
You know, I got a question you guys can help me with.
I'm wondering if I'm suffering from ivory tower syndrome because when I look at this stuff, I'm like, good, arrest those people, throw them in jail, don't let them out.
Good.
I want this to stop.
Arrest them all.
And it's like, is that really the answer?
Or am I just, I'm not, I'm not suffering right now.
So I have no desire to go out and throw my body into a, into risk.
Um, and am I, What suffering are these people undertaking?
Yeah, well, they're getting in front of rubber bullets.
You know, they're taking a risk.
tim pool
So you wait, like if you go out to protest and you want to wave a little sign that says something like, you know, I don't know, lower the cost of eggs, bread and milk.
ian crossland
You know what I realize at Occupy Wall Street, going out there is not the way to protest.
You use the Internet.
If you want to protest, make Internet videos.
You will change hundreds of millions.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like we're doing right now.
Hashtag JoeMustShow, Joe Biden, Donald Trump, Joe Rogan Podcast.
This is gonna get so many, whatever.
I hope it happens.
Anyway, look, if you go out and you wave a little sign saying the cost of milk is too damn high, and slam the table, and then you're sitting there chanting, and then all of a sudden some dude lobs a Molotov, and you're like, that's crazy!
I'm gonna stay here with this man.
Okay, well then you're gonna get hit with a rubber bullet, man.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, the cops aren't gonna be like, which one was it?
They're gonna be like, the crowd's throwing explosives and incendiary devices.
ian crossland
I guess my question is, is there value to what they're doing?
I've never read this book, by the way.
Is there value and I'm just missing it because I'm in like the ivory tower right now?
tim pool
Well, it depends on your definition of value.
Value in the sense of like, regardless of the intent, is there a positive?
Is there something that will help?
It'll get Trump elected, if that's what you want.
unidentified
Maybe it is.
ian crossland
But to fix like the economic, if there's a caste disorder, is this the way to do it?
Or are they missing the mark completely?
tim pool
I think they're missing the mark completely.
I think peaceful protest works.
The scientific data shows that.
And if they took all of their energy and just laid down in the street, then that works.
It does.
It's a nuisance.
A lot of people get annoyed by it.
They get really angry.
But it does work.
And then what happens is the cops come in, they pick people up, the people put their hands behind their back, comply, meet with every officer, and the officer says, you know, I get it, I get it, don't worry, you know, you'll be out in an hour or two.
They get a slap on the wrist charge, the court says, congratulations, you got your mark of honor with the arrest, have a nice day.
And then the news reports, you know, Broadway and, you know, whatever street was shut down because people blocked the intersection, and you get press attention for it.
I think civil disobedience is the line.
You are breaking the law, but we all kind of go, okay, we get it.
ian crossland
And it's to get the attention of the lawmakers so that they change the law.
tim pool
Exactly.
So then the lawmaker is seeing there's a lot, there's popular action here.
They see peaceful protest and they think, this is good for me.
So then they go on TV and say, all of those people, they came out here and they express themselves and they did it right.
They did it peacefully.
We got to stand up for that.
So I am announcing a change.
We will lower the cost of milk, bread and eggs.
Well, everyone cheers.
And it does work.
And riots don't.
Riots scare people and make them, say, send in the troops.
So if you want to talk about value, if your value is Donald Trump getting elected, you should be thanking Antifa every day, saying, thank you for going out and destroying things, because it just proves Trump was right the whole time.
ian crossland
I guess it's, why is he getting elected?
That's kind of almost as important.
Maybe not more important.
tim pool
What do you mean?
ian crossland
Like, is he getting elected because people are afraid and they want a military, like, what do you call it?
lydia smith
Well, at this point it's a little bit of both because a little while ago the economy was really good and everyone loved him for that and now the entire country is up in arms because, you know, racial unrest and all this stuff that's been going on that's been so widely, heavily emphasized by the media and our politicians.
So now we have both peace when Trump is in power and chaos when it looks like the left is going to get power So who do you think's gonna end up with the power if the voters are watching this and they're like what what kind of I'll start I'm gonna start with with you lady What kind of person are you if someone said to me?
tim pool
I'm sorry if someone said to you if you vote for me the violence will stop but if you vote for Trump the violence will continue Make the right choice.
Who'd you vote for?
lydia smith
Make the right choice, huh?
tim pool
Would you vote for the person?
lydia smith
You're gonna tell me what choice to make?
I don't know.
I'm not gonna vote for you.
tim pool
I didn't say what the right choice was.
I said make the right choice.
lydia smith
Yeah, I will make the right choice.
tim pool
Thank you.
So same question.
If someone said, if you vote for me, the violence stops.
But if you vote for him...
The violence will get worse.
ian crossland
Well, a couple things.
Define violence, and how will you stop it?
Are you going to level everything with a big explosion that makes it nice, calm, and peaceful, and end the violence that way?
Because I don't want that.
Or are you going to allow discontent to continue?
tim pool
No, no, no.
Joe Biden didn't say he was going to make the violence at all.
This war game they put out, the Democrat war game and the Never-Trumper war game said, unless Joe Biden landslides, there will be widespread violence.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's like a fear tactic.
It's nonsense also.
lydia smith
Yes.
ian crossland
You can't decide that ahead of time.
tim pool
Here's the best part.
You ready for this?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Both Trump and Biden have said that.
lydia smith
Really?
tim pool
Yes.
unidentified
Oh my gosh.
lydia smith
Interesting.
tim pool
Donald Trump has put out the, you know, in Joe Biden's America, don't let the Democrats take over.
lydia smith
Oh yeah.
tim pool
And Joe Biden and the Democrats have said it's currently Trump's America and there will be violence unless Joe Biden wins.
ian crossland
So what about Weinstein's?
tim pool
Unity?
ian crossland
Unity platform.
tim pool
It's just a third party platform, man.
ian crossland
It's too soon to the election, I think, for it to get real traction.
But we need somebody that doesn't act like that.
Like Tulsi Gabbard.
tim pool
Well, that's not it.
That's not it.
I hear what you're saying, but I actually think Trump is right.
ian crossland
How so?
tim pool
When Trump comes out and says that, actually, I think they both might be right.
Well, no.
You know, Trump says that if Joe Biden gets elected, this is, you know, you'll get more of this because he's weak on all these policies.
And I think it's a fair point.
Antifa is taking advantage of him.
So perhaps Trump is wrong in the sense that you'll see widespread violence.
What you'll see is successful militant far leftists because Joe Biden negotiates with them and gives them what they want.
You get Biden in, he's gonna turn around and say, do your thing.
And they're gonna be like, here are the things we want.
He's gonna say, I gave you half of it.
So he's negotiating right now.
And he's off.
He did like the Bernie Sanders pact or whatever, where it's not far left enough for the far left, but it's too far left for moderates.
So if Joe Biden wins, The rioters probably will still be doing their thing, but he's going to give them what they want.
So, yeah, you'll have violent lunatics going around, but they'll just get whatever they want.
If Biden loses, the violent lunatics will start screeching because they're not going to get what they want, so they start smashing things.
ian crossland
I think either way, we're in for some... Either way, you're still going to have violent lunatics out there in that mindset.
tim pool
That's why I think Trump is right.
ian crossland
So I don't think it's the figurehead that's the problem.
No, no.
It's definitely the class system.
tim pool
Look at what's going on with Trump's plans already, deputizing Oregon State Police.
I am the kind of person who says, listen, you have a choice.
Joe Biden says, I'm going to give them what they want to placate them.
Trump says, I will send in the police and I will have them arrested.
ian crossland
Arrest them all.
I'm erring on the arrest side.
tim pool
No, no, you're not going to you're not going to threaten me into voting for the other side.
So when Trump comes out and he says in his ads like in Biden's America, this will happen
and the left is like, well, it's currently Trump's America and it's already happening.
And I'm like, yes, emboldened by the far left and by Democrat politicians at local levels who won't enforce their laws, the DA specifically, Donald Trump has taken action to actually stop a lot of this.
Some of it's worked, but I don't care.
Even if Donald Trump isn't doing enough, you think Joe Biden would do more?
No, I don't think so.
ian crossland
It would be Kamala Harris pulling the strings and I don't like her military tactics.
tim pool
If I have the choice between the guy threatening me Or, I'm sorry, if I have a choice between Joe Biden saying, I'm going to give in to a lot of the far-left demands so that it all stops, and the other guy saying, I'll make them shut up by sending in cops and arresting them, I'll say, go arrest them.
You're not going to, I'm not going to negotiate with these people.
ian crossland
That's a slippery slope to negotiate with terrorists.
tim pool
Exactly.
And what do you think these people are doing to get what they want?
So that's the issue.
In Joe Biden's America, I do think, I think Trump, look, they're both to an extent being like, ooh, violence if you vote for the other guy.
I guess you can't distill this properly in a short ad.
In Joe Biden's America, you will have the morality police.
You'll have the people knocking on your door saying, that rap music is cultural appropriation.
I'm being a little hyperbolic, I'm exaggerating quite a bit, but we're getting to that point where the CDC already has 1,200 people wanting racism to be declared a national health crisis or whatever.
We've seen like 40 cities declare racism a health crisis.
lydia smith
State of Colorado.
tim pool
Colorado, the whole state did it.
I don't want to live in a place like that.
That doesn't make sense.
What does that mean?
What do you do to stop that?
I have no idea.
We've already made institutional racism illegal in 1964.
It's like, we did it, we stamped it, we're done.
Now there's a lot of other issues that we can start fixing.
Remnants of historical racism and things like that.
I'm all for that.
I'm a bit of a lefty in that regard.
What they're doing is not.
They're creating more segregation.
I mean, I'll tell you right now.
So, we see a lot of segregation happening.
You saw the University of Michigan-Dearborn thing.
ian crossland
Yeah, dude.
tim pool
Where they were like, non-POC only virtual event or something.
Freakish!
ian crossland
And then they like, rescinded on that?
tim pool
Well, they apologized for their terminology.
ian crossland
But they're still doing?
tim pool
I don't know.
I think they're still doing it.
They just said, we're sorry about the terminology.
ian crossland
It's a non-POC place, but POCs can come.
Like, that's just weird to call someone a person of color.
Like, come on.
Put someone in a category like that?
tim pool
You got California repealing their civil rights law.
You got things like that.
You got the town of Freedom in Georgia where a bunch of black people are like, it's not necessarily a black only, but white people can apply.
That's what you will get more of under Joe Biden.
What people don't realize is that Trump only just, we're coming on the end of his first term and he just banned critical race theory.
He's spoken out against these things and his base is demanding he does more and he likely will.
Yeah, I don't like that.
fascist, that's ridiculous. I like it. And I've seen, you know, he made a comment on
Fox & Friends about how he wanted to assassinate Assad, and that is horrifying.
Yeah, I don't like that.
ian crossland
Who said that?
Trump did.
tim pool
Oh my gosh.
In 2018, and Mattis stopped him, and I'm like, ugh. But I think Trump made a lot of mistakes.
You know, John Bolton, foreign policy stuff.
However, we have three historic peace agreements.
ian crossland
That's pretty cool.
The thing is, Biden is so bad.
He's such a bad choice.
He was a laughable mistake in 2008.
Just a goof of a ridiculous mistake.
Why was he even up on that stage?
And Obama, for some idiotic reason, put him as his VP.
I still have no idea why he did that.
He was the least horrible or the least likely to say yes to everything Obama wanted.
He's just a yes man.
That guy is a nut.
He's a he's a lame sub intellect liar and cheat.
He's a plagiarist.
And now he's getting going into cognitive decline.
And this is what he trumps up against.
So yeah, he's the worst.
lydia smith
So what's really interesting to me is when you talk about somebody's America, why don't you talk about the person who's been in a position of power for 47 years instead of the person who's been in power for three and a half years?
This has been Joe Biden's America.
It was for eight years, and he did nothing.
tim pool
It's been for 47 years.
This is Joe Biden's America.
lydia smith
Yeah, he's been in office.
And I know they both said this is going to be the world that we live in after this person's elected, but with Joe, It's like a promise that more will come.
Whereas with Trump, he's like, look at what's happening right now.
We're taking care of it.
So I think it's different directionality from each of them.
Like Joe's promising more of the same, more or less.
tim pool
I think this cartoon right here sums up all that you need to see.
This is from George Alexopoulos.
He's gprime85 on Instagram and Twitter.
And this is just excellent, excellent artwork.
It is the first panel, Joe Rogan.
All right, gentlemen, we hydrated, caffeinated, ready to begin our four-hour debate.
The next panel is Trump looking up, smiling with rosy eyelashes, and there's bright colors bursting behind him.
Then a worried-looking, sweating Joe Rogan who looks over, and Joe Biden is sleeping.
And it's like a decrepit—this is amazing art, George.
This is really great stuff.
lydia smith
I love the colors.
tim pool
Just like, look at Biden.
Dude, that sums it up.
Okay, so this does reference what we've been screeching about the whole time, Joe Rogan getting this debate between the two of them.
But there's more here than just the debate.
This image of Trump and Biden is a caricature, it's an exaggeration.
But it's an exaggeration, it's emphasizing these people way, way more.
Trump, you know, Egotistical, chin up, you know?
lydia smith
Smug-looking.
tim pool
Smug-looking face.
You know, he does that, and he's like, mm-hmm.
And Joe Biden's sleeping and snoring and looking awful.
It's an exaggeration.
I suppose, you know, if it was more negative Trump, you could have made him look bloated with tiny hands or something.
But I think it's an exaggeration of Trump as this like, mm-hmm, you know, arrogant, you know, smug.
ian crossland
More famous, more money.
tim pool
And the first one, you can see him smiling and looking over like, yeah.
unidentified
And Joe Biden, it's amazing.
tim pool
I think, you know, the left would look at it the other way.
They'd see Joe Biden like, I don't know.
ian crossland
Do I really have to do this?
tim pool
And Donald Trump whining and pouting on the table.
But that's a character based on media lies about Trump.
The crazy thing about Trump is that the media makes his portrayal of him like a whiny baby.
And I'm like, Trump can be that sometimes.
But I really don't think Trump cares about this stuff the way they act like he does.
They're like, did you see how mad Trump got because his ratings were bad?
I'm like, Trump probably didn't even think anything of that because he was watching Fox News.
So it's like, CNN comes out and they're like, Donald, the RNC's ratings were lower than the Democrats.
Trump is mad, am I right?
unidentified
Woohoo!
tim pool
High five!
In reality, Trump's watching Fox News and Fox is going, when you combine TV viewership with online, the RNC trounce the Democrats and Trump's like, alright.
lydia smith
Sounds good.
tim pool
So they act like he's mad.
He's probably not mad.
So anyway, let's do this.
Let's talk a little bit about what's going on with voting.
First, I'm going to start by pointing out you should all tweet hashtag Joe must show Joe Biden must go on the Rogan podcast with Donald Trump.
I wonder if we're causing trouble for Joe by constantly pushing it.
unidentified
I hope so.
ian crossland
We are definitely helping.
tim pool
Yep.
ian crossland
Oh yeah.
tim pool
Hashtag Joe must show.
Also don't forget to smash the like button.
Get your super chats in if you would like.
But so let's do this.
What's going to happen?
What's going to happen in November?
Check out this story from Fox News.
Democrats might not accept election results if Trump wins.
Street battles could ensue.
Atlantic writer, they're not even hiding it anymore.
Trump 2020 deputy communications director said.
The Democrats, in my opinion, will not accept the results.
The Republicans, in my opinion, will not accept the results.
It doesn't matter whose side you're on, both sides are not going to accept the results.
Would you both agree?
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
You think so?
ian crossland
Sorry.
I hope they do, but with mail-in voting, no one has to accept anything until all the mail-in votes are counted.
tim pool
I would like you to read this headline for me, Ian.
ian crossland
Well, this says, Pennsylvania, mail ballots can't be discarded over signature.
What does that mean?
tim pool
Well, would you like to read the... Can you read the first paragraph?
ian crossland
Sure can.
Let me put on my glasses and I can do it from here.
tim pool
I'm like not wearing your glasses, so... Hello.
ian crossland
Yeah, from Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, the AP reports, with concerns rising in Pennsylvania that tens of thousands of mail-in ballots will be discarded in the presidential election over technicalities, officials in the presidential battlegrounds told counties they aren't allowed to reject a ballot solely because an election official believes a signature doesn't match the one in the voter's file.
lydia smith
Whoa.
ian crossland
So wrong signature, doesn't matter.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
Who's going to accept the results of this election?
lydia smith
No one should.
tim pool
There's going to be a ballot, and it's going to be from John Doe, and it's going to be like this beautiful cursive signature, and they're going to look at the file, and the file's going to be like squiggly left-handed garbage, and they're going to be like, looks good to me!
ian crossland
You know, signatures are a weird form of security anyway.
lydia smith
I agree.
ian crossland
Because anyone could forge my signature.
tim pool
So what do you do, fingerprint?
ian crossland
Something like that, yeah.
tim pool
You dip your finger in that weird ink and then onto the paper?
ian crossland
Maybe.
tim pool
How do you do fingerprint analysis anyway?
ian crossland
Right, and how do you acknowledge that it's your fingerprint from a distance?
tim pool
DNA.
Everyone has to take a knife?
ian crossland
A drop of blood?
tim pool
A drop of blood?
No.
unidentified
A wash?
tim pool
Slice the hand and just put your bloody handprint?
ian crossland
Yeah, something like that.
I'm just kidding.
tim pool
Sign your name in your blood.
Barcode?
Rip out a clump of hair and slap it on top and then spit on it.
ian crossland
Toenail clipping.
Maybe fingerprint along with a signature?
tim pool
Dude, dude, dude.
Bro, what are you, some kind of Republican?
ian crossland
I hope not.
unidentified
Listen, listen.
tim pool
The Democrats are saying get rid of voter ID.
The Democrats are saying get rid of voter signature verification.
unidentified
What?
ian crossland
How else do you verify it?
tim pool
They don't want it!
ian crossland
That is weird.
tim pool
You're sitting here talking about more security like some kind of Republican.
Look at this hippie guy.
What have I become?
This hippie looking guy, long hair.
ian crossland
Abraham Lincoln was a Republican.
lydia smith
There you go.
tim pool
He was.
lydia smith
He's correct.
tim pool
Yeah, and they hated that guy.
ian crossland
He started that party.
lydia smith
I'd be at that party.
That sounds like a good party.
tim pool
And then they killed him for it.
ian crossland
Well, John Wilkes Booth did.
tim pool
Yeah.
He was famous.
Did you know that?
ian crossland
Yeah, he was like a real famous actor.
tim pool
That's crazy.
Could you imagine if like, you know, like Alec Baldwin?
lydia smith
Yes, I can.
ian crossland
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
Breaks into the Oval Office.
lydia smith
I can totally imagine it.
tim pool
But he's dressed like Trump, like from that costume, and he's like, I gotta put an end to this.
ian crossland
That's kind of like what that was, wasn't it?
He was like a really famous actor.
tim pool
He was a famous stage actor.
lydia smith
He was a celebrity.
tim pool
And that's how we had access, I guess.
So, look at this.
I got more stories, man.
Mail ballots can't be discarded over signature.
It's not just that they're saying, it's good to go.
They're saying that people need a chance to fix it.
But come on, man.
To quote Joe Biden, look at it this way.
Let's say you look at a signature and there's someone counting ballots, and they look at the signature from the ballot, and they look at the signature on file, and it is clearly not the same handwriting.
They should be able to throw it in the trash.
ian crossland
But they don't have to.
tim pool
Now they can't.
lydia smith
They cannot.
ian crossland
Or they can't.
tim pool
And so the idea is you can go back to the person and ask them to fix it.
Okay, if somebody signs, you know, and then you look at it and it's kind of the same, but you can't tell, that makes sense to be like, okay, this looks different, but we're gonna send it back to the person to fix.
That's gonna delay the election by what, several weeks to months?
ian crossland
But like when I fill out forms, I was just filling out a form recently for like my license, and on my signature I just did it a little wrong.
It didn't look like my normal signature, but they're gonna accept it.
tim pool
Right, so what happens when the signature is wildly different and now they can't reject it?
ian crossland
Well, that's screwed up.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
ian crossland
They just have to accept it?
tim pool
Well, I guess they'll send it back to the person and then... Okay, so it's gonna be another four weeks before we... And then we get what?
We get Pelosi president?
Interim president Pelosi?
unidentified
Wow.
ian crossland
Because someone will send it back and it'll be the wrong signature again.
tim pool
And then what's she gonna do?
Fire Trump's people or what can she do?
ian crossland
We can't have Pelosi as president.
Is that really what would happen?
tim pool
If the House election goes the way it's supposed to, and the presidency gets jammed up, yes, she becomes president on January 20th.
ian crossland
Well, maybe that's the President of America needs right now.
unidentified
No!
tim pool
Crazy Nancy!
ian crossland
We can all see how crazy things are.
tim pool
Nah, nah.
But hold on.
But wait, there's more.
I want to stop there.
Actually, this is the wrong story, but it's interesting nonetheless.
I never considered voting for Trump in 2016.
I may be forced to vote for him this year.
More than 20,000 mail ballots were tossed out in Pennsylvania's 2020 primaries.
lydia smith
Speaking of Pennsylvania.
tim pool
That's half of President Trump's margin of 40,000 votes in the state in 2016.
unidentified
Huh.
tim pool
What is this story?
Democrats are more likely than Republicans to mail in ballots early, according to a poll.
Just feels like they're prepping us for all of this insanity.
They're telling us, well, the Democrats are going to send in more ballots.
That way, that's why it makes sense that if Trump wins, he didn't really win.
lydia smith
We'll find boxes.
tim pool
Yeah, we'll go look for boxes until we find enough votes.
Find.
And if the signatures don't match, doesn't matter!
unidentified
They're good.
ian crossland
I mean, we need internet voting.
This is the year that's gonna show.
We have to have online secure voting.
tim pool
But how do you secure online voting?
ian crossland
Well, like we were saying, blockchain's a little risky because they can do coordinated attacks, so some sort of decentralized service that maybe it's not a blockchain, but like a DAT protocol or something.
tim pool
Someone could easily break into that, dude.
The problem with cybersecurity is that you got, what, what are we at, 7.2 billion people?
ian crossland
Yeah, something like that.
tim pool
How many of these individuals, it's a distributed computer and they're all trying to crack the code to break into our secure voting system?
Somebody's gonna find it.
ian crossland
But this is also horribly insecure.
tim pool
Yes.
ian crossland
So it's like the lesser of two evils.
tim pool
Hold on.
It's been bad for a lot of reasons, but we can secure it.
You know, we need to secure our voting machines.
They need to be checked better because they're easily hacked.
And we need to, I don't know, have voter signature verification and ID cards.
ian crossland
So right now you go to a polling place, you put it into a computer, and then that data is transmitted to a server somewhere?
tim pool
No, I think it goes on a hard disk.
ian crossland
So it's still data someone could tamper with.
tim pool
Easily.
Very easily.
ian crossland
And so the way I see it is we're going from a 30% quality to a 38% quality or something.
tim pool
If you do internet-based voting, one dude in Russia is gonna be like, here we go!
And Hillary Clinton's president.
Done.
ian crossland
I would imagine if you had like a blockchain or something that you could follow the trail of changes.
So if someone tried to tamper with it, you would see it.
tim pool
They'd change the whole chain.
ian crossland
Man, you might be right.
I'm just not an expert, but I can't imagine there's anything other than that that would be better than this.
tim pool
When you have physical ballots, there are challenges because this is one of the reasons the Electoral College is so important that it's often overlooked.
It's a really great argument, too, that people don't bring up.
If all that matters is New York, LA, and Chicago because of the popular vote, or California, then it's really easy for one person to forge a ton of votes in one area to make it seem like they all came from California because there's more people there.
And that makes sense.
With the Electoral College, they'd have to forge votes in every single state in different counties so that the state wins for their candidate.
Get it?
lydia smith
Security advantage.
tim pool
Yeah, so with the national popular vote, you need to only rig one election.
With the Electoral College vote, you need to rig 50 elections.
lydia smith
Oh, cool.
tim pool
It makes it much, much more difficult to steal.
lydia smith
I like that.
tim pool
Yeah, and people don't talk about it.
It's one of the most important reasons why we have the Electoral College.
ian crossland
What if you have an online local election thing where there's a bunch of local counts and then they were all calibrated?
tim pool
The speed at which you can alter and transmit data over the internet is rapid.
It would be like the difference between getting a physical newspaper printed and sent to your house and pulling up the website.
The moment the person writes the story, it's right there in front of you.
With the paper, they write the story, then they print it on the paper, then they send the design to the system, they print out all the papers, put them on trucks, Deliver them to various, you know, distributors or houses or whatever.
Finally get your paper.
It took a day to do.
And a lot of work, a lot of people involved.
It's very difficult to get you a physical piece of paper.
It's very easy for them to press enter and send you a story.
And they have security on their website.
They do.
And someone could easily hack their accounts, and they've done it.
We recently saw high-profile Twitter users get hacked.
And Twitter's got security.
Imagine if they had to go to that person's house, all of these celebrities, and print out statements from them and give them out.
ian crossland
Well, first it would take six months.
And that's a big problem.
Because we don't have six months from November 4th to figure out who the president is.
tim pool
Right?
Maybe that's their goal.
Their goal is kamikaze.
If it can't be them, then no president at all.
lydia smith
Fire everything?
tim pool
Yeah.
More than that.
No president.
Anarchy.
ian crossland
Just gonna make it draw out as long as we can until Nancy Pelosi gets into office.
tim pool
It could be Chuck Grassley if she doesn't get re-elected.
I don't know much about him.
Or if the Republicans win the House.
So a lot of people keep saying President Pelosi, but it's possible that the House flips Republican, and then you get a Republican speaker, and the Republican... But it's an unelected official.
ian crossland
I don't think anybody really wants... Most people probably don't want an unelected official to become president.
tim pool
It would be an interim president emergency.
ian crossland
But they would stay as the president until... The resolution.
tim pool
Yeah.
If it was a Republican, though, the Republican would probably clear it up and favor Trump, and Pelosi will probably favor Biden.
I don't know what they can do as interim president, though, to actually affect what's going on with the election.
Probably a lot.
There's going to be tons of lawsuits.
We're not going to know who won.
ian crossland
In the meantime, there's like postal office employees throwing out bags of mail.
tim pool
That's been happening.
ian crossland
I know.
tim pool
These are contractors, though.
ian crossland
So we have contractors handling our mail.
tim pool
Yes.
ian crossland
That's like our vote— That's even worse!
Private companies are handling our presidential votes.
lydia smith
I have great confidence in this system.
tim pool
I don't know how that works, but there's no chain of custody at the post office.
Why am I going to give them my— I'm not going to give them my vote, are you nuts?
ian crossland
But so many people are.
It's terrifying.
tim pool
All the Democrats are.
ian crossland
It's really weird.
tim pool
It makes sense because the post office union endorsed Biden.
ian crossland
Oh, that's even worse.
tim pool
Could you imagine?
That's what I tell people.
Imagine you're a Biden voter and a guy shows up to your house with a MAGA hat on saying, I'll take your vote for you.
Give me your vote, I'll take care of it for you.
Dude, what the heck?
Get out of here!
No, I'm not gonna give you my vote.
ian crossland
I'm not begging the universe for online voting.
tim pool
Yeah, but that's probably less secure, man.
lydia smith
It's too late.
ian crossland
I don't know if it's less secure.
It's equally as insecure, but it's fast.
tim pool
It's hard.
I don't know.
It is fast, but it's easily exploited by people in other countries.
ian crossland
But we can get our driver's license online.
Hey, bucko, you can get some water at my house.
tim pool
He can't get any water out of that thing.
ian crossland
See if you can.
You can do a lot of things online that are like high security stuff.
I can get a credit card online, you know, my personal information.
Why not voting?
It doesn't even seem like that big of a deal.
tim pool
Because it can be exploited very easily.
All these other systems can be as well.
China hacked a whole bunch of like social security numbers or something.
So now they have like everyone's personal information.
It's a big deal.
lydia smith
Great.
tim pool
Yeah, so look man, I like the idea, but I just don't see it.
Not right now at least.
ian crossland
One step at a time.
tim pool
Because cyber defense is very difficult, cyber offense is extremely easy.
Because you can't physically see where the holes are and where the leak is coming from.
So people find a way in and they'll cover their tracks.
You might not even know they breached the system.
Even now, I have very little faith in our elections.
The only reason I'm willing to vote this time is because Trump winning in the first place proves that voting actually had an impact.
Because they're freaking out.
They're like, oh no, what happened?
So I'm like, okay, I guess voting matters.
But now I think they're cheating.
I mean, look at this stuff with mail-in voting, dude.
It is, it is beyond insane.
Will Chamberlain has a great tweet.
He said, in-person voting is high integrity.
Absentee voting is high integrity because you request the ballot and they know who's getting it.
Universal mail-in voting is low integrity.
And if you are trying to reduce the integrity of our elections, we can only assume it's because you intend to cheat.
ian crossland
Yeah, why would they?
It's because, it's because of COVID?
tim pool
Joe Biden just voted in person!
ian crossland
Okay, that's great.
tim pool
Joe Biden voted in person.
Berks and Fauci both said we could vote in person.
There's no reason to have universal mail-in voting.
ian crossland
By the way, you were right.
He couldn't get the water.
tim pool
He tried, though.
ian crossland
He was too low.
He was trying to knock the cup over.
tim pool
Bucko's been doing catnip, so he's tripping.
lydia smith
He's tripping a little bit, yeah.
ian crossland
He's on a journey right now.
tim pool
He's like, oh man, I need water.
My friends, we gotta jump to this more important story though.
So before we do, the hashtag is JoeMustShow and make sure when you tweet it you also include Joe Biden must join the Rogan experience with Donald Trump for four hours of a moderated debate.
It will be the greatest thing ever.
You know what?
I just feel like it's not going to happen because it would be too good to be true.
lydia smith
I feel like we deserve it.
tim pool
We deserve it?
Yeah, I do.
After 2020, we deserve it.
ian crossland
Sometimes the too good stuff does happen.
lydia smith
And it is 2020.
I rule nothing out.
tim pool
I mean, what if at the very least we just got Trump on The Rogan Experience?
ian crossland
That's what we need.
lydia smith
That'd be awesome.
tim pool
I'll take that, I guess.
But I really want them both because it would be an unprecedented level of authenticity from presidential candidates.
And then you'd have Joe being like, what about this war stuff?
And then classified, I can't talk about it.
ian crossland
Joe, that's why I thought you were talking about Biden, you were talking about Rogan.
When Biden and Mike Pence elbow bumped, that was cool.
We could see that level of humanity from Biden and Donald.
tim pool
A lot of people took it to a negative place.
For those not familiar, on 9-11 Biden and Pence were both at this memorial and they both smiled and they gave each other a forearm bump and they were happy.
ian crossland
I respect that.
tim pool
I really do.
I wish we were more together.
More unified.
And it's sad that we're not as a country.
A lot of people said, see, this proves that they're friendly with each other.
lydia smith
One party system.
tim pool
And then they try and exploit us for donations.
And I'm like, no, it just shows that there's still a level of civility left.
And I'm hoping it's not going to be torn apart.
ian crossland
I was afraid that showing Biden's humanity would give him a better chance of getting elected.
But from my experience, allowing all parties to thrive lets the best candidate win.
tim pool
Well, I got bad news.
My friends, the civility is coming undone.
ian crossland
Keep going.
tim pool
This is a horrifying and tragic story.
lydia smith
Oh, I'm terrified.
tim pool
I bring you now to San Francisco to the vile streets where a YouTuber was detained for defecating in Nancy Pelosi's driveway during livestream.
What has become of our great nation?
ian crossland
On livestream?
What platform was he streaming to?
lydia smith
How did they get away with this?
tim pool
So apparently this guy's homeless.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
And he was making a point about Pelosi.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
And he said that was for President Trump.
And I'm just like, the video Poopelosi was watched 19,000 times before it was removed from YouTube.
lydia smith
Oh my goodness.
tim pool
He called the incident a peaceful protest.
lydia smith
Yeah?
tim pool
He should have called it a biohazard.
So I said at this guy on Twitter, because I'm like, and you know, okay, maybe I should chill a little bit, but come on, man.
ian crossland
Come on, man.
tim pool
Don't poop on people's stuff.
I just don't like the idea of protesters going to people's houses and making a thing of it, because the left has been doing that.
If we're going to play this game where the left and the right are like, alright, we'll one-up each other... Dude, it's why the kings built castles in the first place, because the people would go to their house.
ian crossland
We need walls.
It's just coming full circle.
tim pool
But like, small castles.
ian crossland
Well, at first they would be able to keep.
Like, they'd build a wall, and then they'd build a bastion around their keep, which is like a wall around their walled house, so that you really couldn't get in.
tim pool
Gotta keep the peasants out, man.
unidentified
I know.
tim pool
We need the peasants.
ian crossland
Disgruntled peasants will go to the leader's house.
lydia smith
And apparently poop on it.
tim pool
Alright, okay, okay, well.
ian crossland
Maybe we gotta build castles in the sky.
tim pool
We gotta figure out what's going on at the core of this scandal.
lydia smith
Yeah, I wanna know.
tim pool
Poopgate.
Pelosi Poopgate?
I don't know.
So they say, the live stream shows a man known as Mando walk to the House Speaker's home, stand in the driveway, survey his surroundings, and then squatted and defecated in front of the home.
They say, Mando said that his comment about Trump was satire, and he supports the President's accomplishment, but fears America is becoming one big burned-down city.
In a subsequent video, Mando said, he was detained by officers of the Bay Area Rapid Transit Police.
It was scary, man.
They asked me about Kamala- Kamala Harris and how I joked on the stream that if she lived in San Francisco, I'd S on her house too.
They weren't effing playing.
unidentified
It was scary.
tim pool
I thought my life was over in that moment.
He told his viewers, they kept asking me, are you this?
Are you that?
Are you Antifa?
And the Capitol police were definitely watching my channel because I could hear them on radio.
Like tell him to turn off the stream.
What do you, what is this cat doing?
He wants to play.
He's tripping.
I guess he didn't get arrested.
ian crossland
Oh, wow.
tim pool
Because it is legal.
ian crossland
It's legal to poop on someone's property?
tim pool
But I guess it's because they decriminalized pooping in general in the streets.
ian crossland
Oh, this is San Francisco.
tim pool
Yeah, that's Pelosi's district, man.
ian crossland
Don't poop on my house if I move to San Francisco.
tim pool
Don't move to San Francisco.
ian crossland
I lived there once, dude.
I went to San Francisco.
We went down to look at a house.
I left my bag in the car.
We went into the apartment.
I came out and our car window was shattered.
My bag was stolen.
tim pool
That sounds like SF, man.
So, Mandu apologized to Pelosi in a now-deleted tweet, writing that he wasn't proud of his actions,
and he harbors no ill will toward the Democratic politician, saying,
I know you may not ever see this, but I want you to know I meant no foul harm yesterday
when I did what I did. I'm not proud of it at all, and I just would like for you to know that
I have no ill will against you or anyone in elected officials position.
I think he's just saying that because he got detained and got freaked out when they were like, why are you pooping?
ian crossland
He's like, I just had to go.
I didn't mean to.
tim pool
I guess he said he actually is homeless.
ian crossland
Okay.
tim pool
And so what are you gonna do?
ian crossland
It doesn't seem malicious.
Would you consider this malicious?
tim pool
Um, no.
lydia smith
Mischievous.
tim pool
Mischievous?
ian crossland
Definitely mischievous.
tim pool
Yeah, that's a better way to put it, I guess.
lydia smith
Yeah, I think so.
ian crossland
But yeah, doesn't seem malicious.
lydia smith
Doesn't seem that mean.
ian crossland
He didn't seem angry.
I mean, I'm just reading context, you know.
tim pool
I mean, I think the internet creates these things, and we gotta be careful about it, because the only reason he did it is because he knew he could film it and send it out.
ian crossland
Yeah, and now he's gonna get 5,000 viewers at GoFundMe.
tim pool
Right.
Go fund me.
Help me travel across the country.
ian crossland
Tell me where to poop next.
tim pool
Well, we got another story in the Pelosi saga.
I can't believe this one.
This one is hilarious.
CNBC's Jim Cramer calls Pelosi crazy Nancy to her face, then blames Donald Trump.
The dude, Freudian, slipped.
ian crossland
I think he did it on purpose.
tim pool
You think he did it on purpose?
I don't think so.
ian crossland
That's what I read when we listened to it.
tim pool
So he's talking to her, and he's like, how are we gonna get- Okay, here we- Do they have the quote?
They don't have the actual quote.
It just says, sorry, that was the president.
Where's the actual quote?
Come on, come on, come on.
Nah, that's stupid.
You need the actual quote to understand the context.
They say, CNBC's Jim Cramer called House Speaker Nancy Pelosi crazy Nancy to her face Tuesday morning, utilizing the nickname President Trump has given her.
Sorry, that was the president, Cramer immediately said after the slip.
I have such reverence for the office, I would never use that term.
Pelosi laughed and said, but you just did, but you just did, and then called Trump the master of projection.
So then Jim Cramer went on like a tweet spree.
It disgusts me that she is called Crazy Nancy.
She has spent her whole life in public service.
My critics didn't listen to why I mention it because it is horrifying.
Nah, he slipped up.
ian crossland
Does he like Donald Trump?
I can't tell.
tim pool
I don't know.
I mean, he did say before COVID the best numbers of our lives in terms of the economy.
ian crossland
So he's kind of nonpartisan?
tim pool
Maybe.
I don't know.
No, he's calling what Trump says horrifying.
He says, did anyone bother to listen to the whole interview?
It was about how horrendous it is that the president calls Speaker Pelosi crazy Nancy.
It is so unfortunate and ill-advised.
The people criticizing me must not have realized the point.
Never should she be called that.
Nah, he slipped up.
He definitely slipped up.
ian crossland
I thought he did it and then he was like, oh, that was Donald Trump.
You know what I mean?
Oh, cool.
tim pool
We can play it.
I can try to make it play.
So, let's see.
Let's see if we can make this play and you can actually hear what he said.
unidentified
Between you and I think Secretary Mnuchin, I mean, what deal can we have at Crazy Nancy?
tim pool
I'm sorry, that was the president.
unidentified
I have such reverence for the office, I would never use that term.
But it is hard.
But you just did.
Oh, come on.
But you just did.
You know what I mean.
tim pool
He slipped up.
He slipped up.
ian crossland
I'm going to disagree with you there.
Roll initiative.
tim pool
You think he did it on purpose?
unidentified
Why?
ian crossland
Because making a point about how gross it is.
He made himself look like a bad guy to show that's a bad thing to do.
tim pool
I thought you meant he was intentionally calling her crazy.
ian crossland
No, I think he was making a point.
tim pool
What do you think?
lydia smith
I don't really know.
It's hard to tell, because that doesn't seem like something that would just slip out, honestly.
Does it?
tim pool
Yeah, it does.
unidentified
Really?
lydia smith
You think so?
tim pool
It sounds to me like he slipped up.
Like, behind the scenes, he's like, ah, crazy Nancy, she's always doing this.
And then when he's talking to her, he's like, how can we come to a deal, you know, crazy Nancy?
And then, whoa, whoa, whoa, I mean, I didn't mean it.
Like, you saw him immediately, he was like, I didn't mean it, I didn't, you know, that's the president.
lydia smith
So maybe so what you're saying is that this is basically just like locker room talk that kind of worked its way out into the conversation.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
So I think that everyone's entitled to a little bit of locker room talk.
You should be able to say whatever you want to say around just your friends or you know whoever hangs out with you at home.
tim pool
I just think Crazy Nancy is incorrect.
lydia smith
Why so?
ian crossland
She's not crazy.
tim pool
She's not crazy.
lydia smith
She's crooked.
ian crossland
She's not crazy.
tim pool
No, she's crooked.
ian crossland
Disconnected.
She's too wealthy.
tim pool
Do you see that video where she's like showing the ice cream off and she's like, I got all this expensive ice cream.
She's laughing.
ian crossland
I gotta get my hair done.
tim pool
And everyone's like, unemployed.
Oh yeah, the mask thing.
The mask thing.
Ladies and gentlemen, I have some art for you.
lydia smith
Oh yeah, we got more art.
tim pool
I got art for you.
This is a better example of what Nancy Pelosi is.
Once again, from George Alexopoulos.
For those that are just listening, I will describe it to you.
The first panel is Nancy yelling, and she's sparkling.
It was a setup!
I was wearing my mask.
Then the next panel, it gets dark and she has the same mask.
And then the next panel is her looking down and grabbing her face.
And then she rips her face off.
I'm wearing now!
And her face is the alien from the movie They Live.
ian crossland
Yeah!
Rowdy Rowdy Piper.
tim pool
Rowdy Rowdy Piper.
He says, I'm here to kick ass and chew bubblegum.
And I'm all out of bubblegum.
ian crossland
That's where that line comes from.
It's the longest fight scene from any movie.
tim pool
Is it really?
ian crossland
I don't know.
It goes on for like 20 minutes though.
They're just punching each other in the face.
tim pool
They Live is about Rowdy Roddy Piper.
Well, he was like WWF, right?
ian crossland
Yeah, big time.
He was one of the hottest WWF wrestlers against Hulk Hogan in the 80s.
tim pool
So he finds these sunglasses and when he puts them on he can see through the illusion.
It's a cool movie!
And there's all these people around who look like this art depiction of Nancy Pelosi's face.
They have no lips and their teeth are showing they're aliens or whatever.
And when he takes them off, they go back to normal.
And then when he puts them back on, he looks like a billboard.
And it says, Obey.
And he takes them off, and it's like, you know, enjoy sweet, sweet cola.
And he's like, whoa.
And then he looks at money, and the money says, this is your god.
ian crossland
It was prolific for its time.
tim pool
Dude, it was amazing.
ian crossland
It got a lot of traction in about 2012, when the Truther movement really struck the internet.
And they love that movie.
tim pool
They live.
lydia smith
Interesting.
tim pool
So anyway, this art is based on Nancy Pelosi, where she went to the hair salon.
And she wasn't wearing a mask, and she was getting her hair done in the salon, and then she blamed the salon, saying, I was set up.
I was set up.
I was wearing my mask.
And then she rips her face off.
Yeah, it's brilliant.
lydia smith
I love it.
tim pool
So, yeah.
ian crossland
She's disconnected, man.
That's my, that's my take on it.
She's just doesn't know.
tim pool
Like, you gotta take a hit.
ian crossland
You gotta not go out and do that stuff if you're a politician.
tim pool
Show more of his art.
ian crossland
Look at this.
tim pool
That so that is all So this is from this is this is a book we got sent from George and it's really really amazing stuff He's G prime 85 on Twitter and the cover is just Nancy Pelosi Shredding the Trump Trump speech.
It's it's look at her face.
Oh my it's amazing art She's so good.
I don't know what that is just people in comics.
Oh, it's a Trump supporter on the back.
Oh So anyway, when she ripped up the speech, when she's eating the ice cream, Ivory Tower Nancy.
But it's not alliterative, you know?
Crazy Nancy isn't either.
How do you do it?
What's an n-word?
ian crossland
Yeah, negative is too long.
tim pool
Negligent?
unidentified
No.
ian crossland
Too long?
Yeah, it's a long word.
tim pool
The idea is that she's disconnected is good, but doesn't get to the core of what she is in my opinion.
lydia smith
Princess Pelosi.
tim pool
Princess Pelosi.
ian crossland
That's pretty good.
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
I think that's okay.
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
Yeah.
She's got her ice cream.
She's got her hairdo.
tim pool
And let them eat cake.
ian crossland
It makes her sound young, which she wants.
So maybe it's not the right.
Then the Old Lady Pelosi.
tim pool
The Wicked Nancy of the West.
lydia smith
I like that too.
The Wicked Nancy of the West.
tim pool
Because she is over on the West Coast.
ian crossland
I think Princess Pelosi is pretty good.
lydia smith
I like that.
tim pool
Princess Pelosi.
I mean, but princess is usually like a positive connotation.
lydia smith
No, it's very young, beautiful.
So, well, among girls, it's very negative.
If you're a princess, you're high maintenance.
You know, you get your hair done all the time.
You got the long nails.
You got, you know, you got the Uggs.
ian crossland
Yeah, and I don't think that's, she's not like that, really, but the fact that she went and had to get her hair done in the middle of this when other people aren't supposed to.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
It's really like, she doesn't have control or something.
tim pool
But they've all, it's not just her.
lydia smith
Lori Lightfoot did it.
tim pool
And didn't Gretchen Whitmer do it?
lydia smith
I'm sure she did.
tim pool
It's been a whole bunch of different politicians, but I have to get my hair done.
lydia smith
I'm in the public eye.
tim pool
And it's not dudes, is it?
lydia smith
No, I don't think so.
tim pool
Because the guys wake up with their hair all greasy and they're like, just splash it with water and comb it to the side and I'm good to go.
Or they put on a beanie because they don't have hair.
lydia smith
That works, too.
tim pool
But these female politicians, we've seen several of them say, I have to be the public face, so I'm going to go to the salon, even though no one is allowed to.
ian crossland
Yeah, like Chris Cuomo's the male version going out, telling people he's not going out, but going out.
lydia smith
Yes, exactly.
tim pool
Well, he's not a politician, though.
ian crossland
No, he's not.
tim pool
His brother is.
ian crossland
Did you see Tucker Carlson at Central Park Fishing?
tim pool
Super old video.
ian crossland
That guy walked up to him.
tim pool
Joey Boots, man.
ian crossland
He held it together.
That was so fun.
tim pool
Tucker's a cool dude.
Yeah, I like him.
That said, you know, Joey was a cool dude.
He died a little while ago, and I knew him.
And he's the famous guy who, I don't know if he's the guy who made up the Bababooey thing, but he would run up to news cameras and yell, Bababooey, Bababooey, Howard Sturd's penis, Bababooey, Bababooey.
And so he would walk around New York filming people, and he didn't realize he was talking to Tucker.
I guess back then, that's a really, really old video.
I don't think Tucker was that famous back then.
Like he was.
I thought it was COVID stuff.
He was the bow tie guy.
ian crossland
He doesn't have his mask on, he's at the Central Park.
tim pool
That was so long ago, dude.
So long ago.
But yeah, if you didn't see it, this video surfaced of Joey Boots.
He was a friend of the Howard Stern Show.
And he sees Tucker Carlson fishing in Central Park.
And he's like, what are you doing?
Tucker's like, fishing.
And he's like, you can fish here?
And he's like, yeah.
And Tucker's just like, you're filming me?
And he goes, yeah.
And he goes, why?
He's like, because I'm allowed to.
And he goes, I'm not questioning your right to do it.
I'm just wondering why you are.
And then after a couple seconds, Tucker just explains to him fly fishing.
He's like, let me show you.
And he like shows his baits and everything.
unidentified
That's so neat.
lydia smith
I thought that was really nice.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And it was like a regular conversation.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And it's kind of, it's kind of, it's cool.
It's cool.
And it's kind of sad because Joey was a cool dude.
He's kind of a, kind of a troublemaker.
lydia smith
Character.
tim pool
Yeah, it's character.
ian crossland
So that's not the male version of Nancy Pelosi.
Has nothing to do with what's going on right now.
lydia smith
It's the polar opposite.
tim pool
What were you thinking?
ian crossland
Oh, just how are people obsessed with their own personal well-being in a time where they're asking everyone to take a sacrifice?
Yeah.
I don't know.
Maybe it's, I don't want to blame it on females, but looking good for the camera is, you know, women getting their hair done and their makeup done.
I don't really like that stuff anyway, personally.
tim pool
Unless, unless I'm missing something, I'm not seeing guys do it.
And it's probably because the guys wake up and they wash their hair and they comb it and they walk out.
But, you know, women, like it's, it's why, uh, Hair services for men can be cheaper depending, I mean you have long flowing locks Ian.
ian crossland
Thank you for noticing.
tim pool
You probably have expensive hair treatment for your hair.
ian crossland
I use baby shampoo.
tim pool
That works, that's awesome.
I just mean like, if you went to a salon that you have a lot of hair to work with, they're going to charge you a lot more.
So guys tend to have short hair, they're kind of like whatever, you know.
ian crossland
Salons as a business are kind of Interesting phenomenon.
lydia smith
So the reason that it costs more, this is actually for the exact same reason that women- Pink tax.
unidentified
That's it.
tim pool
Feminism.
Patriarchy.
lydia smith
Yes, it's the pink tax.
That's all there is to it.
No, women's hair is layered.
It's longer.
Women are more picky.
It takes longer for them to do it.
And the same thing goes with women's clothes when you dry clean it.
There's a lot more tucks and pleats and it's more tailored and it's more fitted and it requires a lot more actual structure.
tim pool
Would it be cruel and unusual punishment?
If we said that any politician who violates the COVID lockdown to get their hair cut had to get their heads shaved?
And then, like, Lori Lightfoot, Gretchen Whitmer, and Pelosi all got their heads shaved?
ian crossland
I think the answer is yes, unfortunately.
lydia smith
That does seem kind of unusual, if nothing else.
tim pool
But there have been instances of unusual punishment.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, I remember seeing stories where, like, a judge sentenced some dude to, like, hold a sign by the freeway.
unidentified
Who?
tim pool
What happened?
I don't know.
It was something like he had to hold a sign saying, like, he was a shoplifter or something.
And the guy was like, he's like, it's like either that or you go to jail and he's like, I'll take the sign.
And so it's kind of unusual, but wouldn't like, I don't know what the exact story was, but wouldn't you rather hold a sign by a freeway than go to jail?
ian crossland
Oh, because it wasn't cruel.
So it has to be cruel and unusual.
Not cruel or unusual.
lydia smith
I think for women that shaving your head like that would be cruel and unusual.
tim pool
Because it's going to take a long time to grow back.
lydia smith
Yeah.
Well, they really care about it.
tim pool
What if you had to dress up like a clown?
Like, oh, you want to look good for the camera?
unidentified
Well, now you have mandatory clown duty.
tim pool
And you have to dress up like a clown.
ian crossland
I used to do that as a job.
lydia smith
You actually did?
tim pool
You were a clown?
ian crossland
I'd dress up as Woody from Toy Story, Darth Vader, a clown.
And then I'd make balloon animals for kids at their birthdays.
lydia smith
Oh, how funny!
I like that.
unidentified
Paid good.
ian crossland
Twelve bucks an hour when I was like 17.
tim pool
Wow, where?
Like Disneyland?
ian crossland
No, Ohio.
Cuyahoga Falls.
Akron.
I'd just go around.
I'd stand on the side of the road with a sign and dance in a reindeer costume.
lydia smith
That's awesome!
tim pool
We're having a good time.
How about we close out with a segment that's actually, I think there's an update on this.
lydia smith
Yeah there is.
tim pool
So do you have the update?
lydia smith
I sent it to you earlier.
tim pool
But the update is that school has relented, right?
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
So we'll just talk about this.
Did you hear this story?
unidentified
You did.
tim pool
You gave me the thumbs up.
ian crossland
Yeah, yeah.
I had water in my mouth.
I read this.
I just kind of glanced at it, watched the video of them running out and saw the headline.
tim pool
So these kids, high school football players, on 9-11, they wanted to wave the thin blue line and the thin red line flags that honors police and firefighters.
lydia smith
Good for them.
tim pool
Specifically those on 9-11 who lost their lives.
And the school said no.
And they said, if you do this, you'll be suspended.
And the kid said, okay.
Did it anyway.
And that's amazing.
That's amazing.
That's not super political.
But it's a protest, and it's the right kind of protest.
But what is going on, man?
That's all I gotta say.
You know, we talk about all this stuff, we kind of joke about people pooping on driveways, and we talk about, you know, antifun, all this stuff.
But how do we get to the point where...
9-12, 2001, this country, everybody, like, we're selling out of American flags.
Because everybody's waving them and saying, like, you know, we're unified.
George W. Bush's approval rating was, like, high 80%.
And now it's, you know, 9-12, 2020, and they're suspending kids for waving flags honoring those who sacrificed their lives on 9-11.
ian crossland
It's like we, as a species, have experienced an amazing evolution over the last 20 years.
Maybe it's internet video.
I don't know exactly, but in 2001, I was all on with George Bush.
I was like, yeah, let's go get him.
tim pool
Are you serious?
ian crossland
I didn't know how I wasn't.
It was a false flat or maybe that it was a false.
You know, I didn't know that it looked like somebody was trying to get us to go to.
I didn't know Halliburton was going to make billions of dollars off of it.
You know, the vice president.
lydia smith
We didn't know any of that.
ian crossland
I know any of that.
And there was the Internet and all the reading, all the stuff that that ABC News wouldn't have showed you in the 90s that you mean, you mean, you mean the media was lying?
Yeah, it seemed like I realized how media was lying, and I had to become the media.
Like, I never would have thought that I would have had to become the media in the 90s, because they were doing such a good job.
tim pool
When all this stuff went down, and the news was telling us, there's weapons of mass destruction, we must go, and we must, you know, start this war, I was like, what?
That doesn't make any sense.
I was just a teenager though, but I was also like a rebellious Rapscallion, who was like, whatever the authorities said, I would be like, you're wrong!
Because I'm smarter than you and I'm 15.
ian crossland
The Iraq thing I was more on edge about because they said before Iraq, once someone slipped
one time and said, when we go into Iraq, and it was before we'd ever gone to, and my dad
told me on the phone, I was like 2003.
Yeah, they're talking about going into Iraq all of a sudden.
And I was like, what?
unidentified
What?
Yup.
tim pool
And they were talking about Iran for a long time and then Trump hires Bolton and Bolton said something like, this time next year we'll be celebrating in Tehran.
And I'm like, what?
ian crossland
There's a thing where we're talking about seven countries in seven years.
It's like a military... Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
And we've actually got a war with a lot of them.
I don't know if that's real though, you know.
I don't know.
Look, when it comes to predictions, I could sit here and be like, at some point, we will go to war in Korea.
And then people like and then 10 years but he was right and like, you know, whatever, right?
So people said these countries are gonna go to war with and like we've gone to war with like four of them Yeah, I was like Cuba North Korea.
ian crossland
It's countries that aren't on the OPEC.
tim pool
Well, no those countries haven't gone to war with yet, right?
But they were on the list but other countries like Syria and Libya and stuff like that We didn't go to we didn't necessarily go to war with them.
We kind of did in Libya and Iraq and the airstrikes and stuff but the main issue I bring this up is just like It's crazy to me that we're at this point where it is more publicly acceptable to say cops are evil and cops are bad than it is to honor those who died on 9-11.
ian crossland
Oh, that's weird.
tim pool
Yeah.
Well, look, you think they could run out waving a Black Lives Matter flag?
ian crossland
I think I would not even have noticed.
They had a weird flag, if they hadn't made a story about it.
It just looked like three cool flags.
tim pool
American flags?
ian crossland
Yeah, three American flags.
One was deep blue, one was regular.
tim pool
They'll paint Black Lives Matter in the streets, but blue lives matter isn't allowed.
lydia smith
They'll tell you it's not political.
ian crossland
We gotta start waving those flags next to each other.
tim pool
No, no, I disagree.
I think the Black Lives Matter organization is extremist.
They want to defund the police and they want to disrupt the nuclear family.
And I'm not even a conservative.
I'm a lefty, urban, liberal type dude and I understand the importance of family.
And they want to disrupt that.
Why?
It's like scientifically proven that family structure is good for kids.
ian crossland
Like, maybe they took the black pill.
tim pool
They just want to burn everything down.
ian crossland
What is it?
The nihilist pill?
tim pool
Yeah, like everything's bad.
ian crossland
They've given up and they're bored and they have power now because they're in their early 20s and they can finally... You saw that video earlier of the cops who got ambushed.
Oh my god, yeah, dude.
tim pool
Yeah, dude.
ian crossland
That's rough.
Did that just happen?
tim pool
I think it just happened.
lydia smith
I think that was just from a couple days ago.
tim pool
The Tulsa shooting.
So for those that didn't see it, two cops got shot in Tulsa.
One of them died.
And it is one of the most horrifying body camera footage release I've ever seen.
Because these cops did everything right.
They pulled the guy over who was breaking the law.
They told him to get out of the vehicle.
He wouldn't do it.
They used taser and pepper spray.
lydia smith
They told him 40 times.
tim pool
40 times to get out of the vehicle.
lydia smith
Very clear.
ian crossland
They didn't want to hurt him.
And they didn't want to kill him.
They didn't want it to become another riot scandal.
tim pool
And then while he was crying and saying, you're hurting me, you're hurting me, he was actually reaching under his seat to grab his gun.
And then he did.
And the gun is probably why he didn't want to get out of the car.
ian crossland
He needed to get to his gun.
tim pool
No, no.
He knew that getting pulled over meant they'd find the illegal gun.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
tim pool
And he was done.
So he decided he'd rather... He didn't want... Like, so, for those that have seen the video, look.
This dude was not trying to just shoot cops to escape.
He waited.
He took his time to try and execute one of the cops.
Yeah, it was very... He, like, stopped and aimed.
He could've... Yeah.
And then he fled.
ian crossland
Um... So...
Yeah, I was gonna ask something, but I don't remember, but he pointed at the cop, like, took his time.
tim pool
He, like, aimed, gripped with both hands, aimed at the head, and put a bullet in the cop's head.
That cop survived.
So I bring that up, the same point with this, uh... So apparently the school has relented, and I don't know exactly what happened, but they were like... Oh, that's great.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But, like, I'm just bringing it up as, like, the final, you know, quick segment is just, how do we get to this point, man, where we're in this country where everybody's got cops?
Everybody.
Even if you live in the middle of nowhere, you've got a sheriff or something you've probably talked to, and maybe you don't really see them, there's state patrol, but cops are everywhere.
You talk to them, you might have a negative interaction because they give you a ticket.
It's like, yeah, you were speeding, otherwise what's a cop going to pull you over for?
I've had cops help, you know?
Like, get locked out of your car or something, you pull over on the highway and they're like, what's going on?
Anything I can help you with?
ian crossland
Honestly, when I'm speeding and I get pulled over, I'll thank the cop because it's dangerous to speed.
And if I'm doing that, I really shouldn't be.
tim pool
I mean, I wouldn't thank the cop.
ian crossland
I'd be like, oh, you got me!
Every time I'm like, thank you.
tim pool
I wouldn't say anything.
I'd be like, well, so I've never actually gotten a ticket for speeding.
I've sped before.
The one time I was really speeding like crazy.
I was in the middle of nowhere, like, like far west Illinois, just like total backroads.
And so there was nothing.
So I was like, eh, screw it.
And I slammed the gas and I was going like 80.
And that was like, you know, what is that like?
It was like I was going like 30 miles over the limit.
And then I see a cop way up in the distance and I'm like, okay, I'll slow down.
When I pass him, he pulls out and starts following me.
And I'm like, oh no, oh geez.
And then he pulls me over and he was like, you were speeding.
And I was like, yeah.
And he's like, hold on.
And then he came back, he gave me a warning.
He's like, slow down, kid.
And I was like, I'm not speeding anymore.
And that was all it took.
I guess he like, he ran my plate.
So I was like, I don't tickets or anything or whatever.
And he was just like, here's your warning, slow down.
And I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
ian crossland
Cause you can kill other people when you're speeding.
That's dangerous.
tim pool
Totally, totally.
So, it's like, you can have a negative interaction with cops, but don't we still have to recognize... You know what?
I'm just gonna say it.
Defund the police is only possible because they've successfully demoralized us as a society.
We're at the point now where people are like, I guess it's okay to say the police are bad.
lydia smith
Well, how spoiled are we to live in a world so peaceful and organized that we feel like we can say, screw the police.
We don't need them.
Are you serious?
tim pool
And then you have poor, uh, poor people in like minority communities.
They're like, we need more police.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
The crime is out of control.
It's, it's these, these like, uh, it's interesting.
unidentified
What is this?
tim pool
Like a high school?
So it's these like progressive, white, you know, social justice areas.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
So the headline doesn't encapsulate this very well, but they were put back on active status and that's what they say.
tim pool
Oh, okay.
lydia smith
Okay.
tim pool
But they, they, are they going to let them wave the flags?
lydia smith
I believe so.
It says, uh, the local schools, uh, little Miami local schools is saddened to see the story take such a negative turn.
The district enjoys an outstanding relationship with their local police and fire agents.
tim pool
It's not about local police.
It's about 9-11, dude.
lydia smith
I know.
Well, yeah, he went on to reference an event that they had later in the day to honor the anniversary of 9-11.
So this is something they took seriously.
My understanding, too, is that they didn't have permission to fly the flags.
And why they didn't give them permission, I don't know.
ian crossland
And they were getting busted because they didn't have permission.
Not because of the flags they were flying.
lydia smith
I guess.
But they should have given them permission to fly those flags, right?
Because it was 9-11.
It was important to them.
tim pool
I'll tell you what, man.
Take a look at this story.
It's from February.
9-11 memorial vandalized in Plymouth less than a week after town's other landmarks were defaced.
lydia smith
This is so depressing.
tim pool
Dude, it's a 9-11 memorial and they knocked it over.
You know what?
This is crazy.
It's a fire... Wow, dude.
I was saying this earlier, you want to have an argument about the police use of force, police brutality, absolutely.
And we can talk about police reform and the appropriate changes.
You want to talk about the firefighters and cops on 9-11 who saw explosion in the sky and debris raining down and people screaming.
And as everyone ran to safety, they ran into the buildings and ended up getting crushed, sacrificing themselves to try and save people.
And many people got pulled out by these cops and firefighters, made it to safety, and those people lost their lives.
And so we build little statues for them.
Because we always want to remember that this is the moment humanity does the best.
And then some lunatic desecrates it.
Knocking it over.
I read that they did repair it, it's an old story.
But just like seeing these kids running out with these flags, and I'm like, I want to stand and salute these kids and be like, yes.
That's what humanity's all about.
The people on 9-11 saw the explosion, saw the fire and debris, and they could have ran away.
And they got in their cars, they jumped in those fire trucks, and they said, we gotta get there as fast as possible, they need us.
And then they died.
And many of these people who went down there and were helping after the fact, and even there on the day, suffered the horrifying lung diseases from breathing all this stuff in for decades to come.
ian crossland
Yeah, I remember that.
I worked there at Ground Zero, and we had to get those breathalyzer tests.
I started in October, and by November, we were getting, like, breathing things, and you had to certify that you weren't sick before you got there.
unidentified
Wow.
lydia smith
Oh, wow.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
To, like, see if you had the illness or whatever.
Yeah, to test if it gave it to you.
Could you imagine, you know, some people lost their lives, but others...
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I just saw him talking about that today.
I think it was.
position to suffer for decades to save people, the people who got this lung.
And that's why it was so, it was so impressive to see Jon Stewart fighting so hard.
lydia smith
I just saw him talking about that today.
I think it was.
tim pool
Yeah.
Is there good news or is there bad news on it?
lydia smith
I think he was just out talking about it.
tim pool
Cause he praised Trump before.
And he said that Trump was the only one who was helping these guys.
And it sickens me how the media just like, it has to be bad about Trump, it can never be good.
And Jon Stewart, good dude.
I don't know where we're at right now, so I don't know where the funding's at, but this story, man, makes me really angry, especially when you see these body camera video stuff get released.
ian crossland
Did you see how, I think it was in Portland, they didn't have enough Chinook helicopters to put out the fires because they're over in Afghanistan?
tim pool
Is that true, though?
ian crossland
Oh, maybe it was a fake article, but I think some of the things that we could have used to protect our own country were overseas.
tim pool
That's true.
Period.
Like, the people.
We spend a lot of money here in the U.S.
to build things and send them overseas, but we do a bunch of nation building in other countries.
That's why I'm like, yo, man, we got Flint.
We got to fix them pipes.
ian crossland
Yeah, that's what the military could be used for, is building infrastructure.
lydia smith
Yeah, you're right, Ian.
tim pool
You sound like a Trump-supporting Republican.
ian crossland
I do love Trump as a human.
tim pool
But as a president?
ian crossland
Let it be known.
I think he's got... I would give him a 68 out of 100.
Yeah, that's pretty good.
tim pool
What about Biden?
ian crossland
Fort 17 out of 100.
tim pool
He's just immediately 17.
ian crossland
I thought about it earlier.
unidentified
17.
ian crossland
Neither of them are my top humans.
Elon Musk, 90, 98 maybe even.
He's like one of my top choices.
lydia smith
He's a little weird sometimes, yeah.
ian crossland
He likes memes.
tim pool
Who gets 100?
ian crossland
I don't think there are any.
But you gotta pick one?
tim pool
I don't know.
ian crossland
Like, who's the 100?
tim pool
What about Joe Rogan?
ian crossland
I'd love to see Joe in office.
He doesn't want that job.
tim pool
No, I mean, like, Musk isn't in office.
ian crossland
No, I know.
tim pool
But Musk does weird things where he, like, tweets and then stock crashes.
Like, what about Joe?
Joe doesn't do anything.
ian crossland
He's not an American either, so he can't be president.
tim pool
It's not about president, though.
ian crossland
Joe would be a great president.
tim pool
I don't know about that.
ian crossland
I think it'd be great because he's good at listening.
That's true.
And that's your job is just make sure stuff doesn't go crazy.
That's like your main job.
tim pool
I'm just saying like you gave Elon Musk a 90.
He's not a president.
Don't you think Rogan would be higher?
He's just a guy who talks to people and you know.
And he's a comedian and he's a commentator.
lydia smith
And he's got a dog.
ian crossland
He'd be pretty good.
tim pool
Like, what are the bad things?
Less than Musk?
ian crossland
Well, he's not... He is pretty intelligent.
tim pool
He's not, like, super intelligent.
No, no, we're talking about, like, in terms of, like, their job and the benefits.
ian crossland
Yeah, Joe would be great because he'd keep people calm and he'd listen to as many sides of the argument as possible.
tim pool
You think Elon Musk would be a good president?
ian crossland
Yeah, because he's a science guy.
He knows all the technology we need to fix things.
tim pool
Well, how about we ask the audience?
Super Chats!
unidentified
What would you give Joe Biden?
tim pool
What would I give Joe Biden?
unidentified
17.
tim pool
Yeah, low.
Real low.
Shockingly low.
Shockingly low.
He's like, violence is bad.
Come on, man.
And I'm like, that's true.
Thank you, Joe.
That's the bare minimum.
lydia smith
We switched the show we were talking about and I wasn't listening.
tim pool
Joe Biden.
lydia smith
Yeah, 17.
Is that what you meant?
tim pool
Right, Biden?
lydia smith
Yeah.
ian crossland
I was asking Chad, actually.
What do you guys think about all these crazy numbers?
lydia smith
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
On a scale of 0 to 100, in terms of like... 1 to 100.
I'm thinking like job performance, not as a politician, but as like overall benefit to humanity.
ian crossland
Exactly.
tim pool
So I think Trump would be a better, you know, maybe 68 is a good number.
ian crossland
Might be higher than that.
unidentified
Both.
tim pool
Benefit to humanity.
lydia smith
Biden's like negative 6.
tim pool
It's hard to tell.
Biden's way down there.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Because he, you know, someone made a really good point.
There's a lot of Trump supporters say this.
Donald Trump gave up a life of luxury to serve the people.
Joe Biden serves the people in order to gain access to a life of luxury.
ian crossland
Wow, that's true.
He's been doing his whole life.
tim pool
But maybe it's not even fair to say he's serving the people.
You know?
But let's go to Super Chats and see what the audience has to say.
Chuck Morris says, just for fun, enjoy Alaska.
I'd love to go to Alaska.
lydia smith
Oh, cool, yeah.
ian crossland
You can see Russia from there.
tim pool
You can from, uh, what's the westernmost point?
It's not Vero, it's, um, Wales?
lydia smith
Is it Wales?
tim pool
Might be Wales.
Yeah.
Let's see, Yethna P says, incoming superchat chain for my favorite rappers, Dr. Two Tims and Lil Sour Lids.
Let me tell you about Ethan VanSkyver, he was cancelled from DC Comics for refusing to back down and denounced a YouTuber who was exposing the truth of SJW rot in the Industry he is proof that submitting to sw's is not only
not needed But that people want you to stand up against these nuts
while publicly not just privately rebuking and saying no to sw
Be better isms he has raised over 2.5 million dollars in crowdfunded comic campaigns being backed by over
34,000 times Wow, please have him on I want to see y'all talk and help him, his new book, beat the most.
We will look into him.
I've definitely heard of him, for sure.
ian crossland
I love people that stand up against SJWs, get cancelled, and then crowdfund a new career.
Like Jordan Peterson, you know, Brett Weinstein.
tim pool
Jack Murphy.
ian crossland
I love that.
tim pool
Was it Wales?
lydia smith
Uh, it is the Atu Island.
You were right, the little island out on the Aleutian Islands.
tim pool
The Aleutians, sure, sure, but what I'm talking about, like, not the islands.
Like the westernmost city of continental, yeah, yeah.
Well, yeah, yeah, because I think, like, the islands actually stretch out really, really close to, like, Russia and Japan.
Michael Calderon says, Tim, did you hear about a prison-themed bar?
Here is a link called Alcatraz Shoreditch Block 212.
Interesting.
Jetha says, crowdfunded comic of all time.
He's so damn close, I don't think comics would be mainly the focus.
More of an aside, I'm interested in hearing you all discuss many things.
He's got a lot of crazy insights into leftism in action, including now-exposed whisper networks denied by leftists.
Even though he is a first-tier guest to me, if he is only a maybe guest for you, remember that if another guest cancels, he lives in Marlton, 30 minutes away from your PO Box.
Plus, Ethan has lots of loyal livestream viewers and superchatters that you can steal.
I gotta see y'all together before you move.
We'll take a look into it.
lydia smith
You're correct, it's Wales.
unidentified
Yes!
tim pool
My geography is on point.
Yeah.
Yeah, the Aleutian Islands.
There's a really cool place on Alaska where they do, like, the crabbing and stuff.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Exile of Society says, Tim, did you hear about Kamala going to a Venezuelan restaurant unannounced in Florida?
All the customers and the owner became furious and told her she was not welcome.
lydia smith
Yeah, it was a Cuban restaurant, I think.
tim pool
Is that for real?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Wow.
Oh, someone mentioned the town hall debate is tonight, guys.
Well, you know, look, That's true.
So make sure you smash the like button because we're definitely competing with the Town Hall.
And I notice people are going to watch the Town Hall.
And that's fine.
But we're gonna do our thing.
And if you guys want to go to the Town Hall, we're gonna be over in 15 minutes and we're gonna turn it on and we're gonna watch if it's not over.
But, you know, let me give you some advice.
Some work advice.
There's a lot of times where someone will be doing a live stream, someone will put out a video, and on YouTube, you compete with that.
You guys might want to watch me and say, oh, but what about Tucker?
We're going to go watch Tucker, and said, by all means, you watch what you want to watch.
And as I was told when I was little, I was talking about business with my mom, and I was like, why would I do that if other people are already doing it?
And she said, Pizza Hut's across the street from Domino's.
They both make money.
And I was like, oh.
Just because someone else is doing the same thing doesn't mean you can't do it, too.
Just because it's a town hall debate doesn't mean we just don't do the show, because you can watch the show later.
That's true, too.
It's recorded.
ian crossland
And if collective consciousness is real, we're enhancing each other.
lydia smith
That's right.
ian crossland
By doing our best separately.
lydia smith
And this is not a zero-sum game.
You just keep working.
tim pool
You just keep working.
We got a super chat.
Where'd it go?
It disappeared.
Why'd it disappear on me?
Lior Engelstein says, I am a FFL and SOT holder and I manufacture firearms.
In the last two months, I have had more firearms tracing calls from the ATF than I have ever had before.
Things are really crazy.
lydia smith
Wow.
tim pool
Dare I say, civil war, people.
unidentified
Hmm.
tim pool
Damien Maddox says, things are getting crazy.
Keep prepping everybody.
Did you guys see that Trump official who said armed insurrection is coming?
ian crossland
No.
tim pool
And he was like, buy ammo.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Oh my gosh.
lydia smith
Michael Caputo.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
Buy ammo.
tim pool
And apparently he's like resigning now because they called him out.
But he was doing a stream for like just his Facebook friends, not a very big account.
And he was like, there's resistance cells in the government and insurrection is coming.
They're not going to concede.
Oh.
They called him crazy.
They called him a conspiracy theorist.
ian crossland
Call him a lot of things.
tim pool
Perhaps he is a government official with insider knowledge of what's going on, and his insight would be valuable.
unidentified
Maybe.
tim pool
Or maybe he's a crazy guy.
ian crossland
I heard you get at least a thousand rounds per gun.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Who told you that?
ian crossland
Uh, my friend in the Army.
unidentified
A thousand!
ian crossland
In the Marines, he's in the Marines, yeah.
tim pool
I'm just, you know, look, I respect what you're saying, Ian, but my experience playing Fallout is that you just walk around and there's bullets everywhere.
ian crossland
I defer to your expertise.
tim pool
Actually, can you think about that?
Like, in Fallout, you wake up like, you know, hundreds of years after this nuclear explosion, the nuclear war wipes everything out, and everybody just happened to have bullets in their buildings.
It's like everywhere.
ian crossland
So many bullets.
tim pool
Just everywhere.
ian crossland
Just scrap brass and there you go.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's a good game, though.
ian crossland
It's great.
tim pool
Fallout 3 is the best.
Eric Meininger says, if you put up 10% and the rest is paid by a bail bondsman, you do not get your money back regardless of outcome.
The bondsman is repaid when you show up, but they keep your money.
You would only get your money back if you paid the entire $1,000,000 bond.
Really?
unidentified
Whoa.
tim pool
Is that true?
lydia smith
I don't know.
I don't know how that works.
ian crossland
Oh, that's dirty.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Yikes.
Let's see.
Johan van Stuten says, the Pelosi pooper was 93% peaceful and 70% corn.
Matthew Byrds, he says, I would like to see.
If arrested, they should have the evidence to take you to court.
DA is ready to present evidence and present case.
The defense can choose a continuance or whatever.
Interesting.
What does it say?
No, I don't.
I don't support it either.
says, will you be covering anything about Hillary Clinton possibly going to jail? I've
been seeing some headlines about it. Do you know what it's about? I really want her to
sport an orange jumpsuit. I can't stand her. I really don't think that'll ever happen.
You guys...
ian crossland
No, I don't. I don't support it either. I don't like the witch hunt and like...
tim pool
What if she goes to jail if she committed a crime?
ian crossland
I feel like, in order for us as a society to move forward, we have to all do it together.
Because if we're going to go after each other, they're going to keep subverting and trying to destroy.
tim pool
Dude, if a dude breaks into a house and stabs an old lady in the throat, and the community is screaming, and it turns out the dude who did it is the son of a wealthy politician, I wouldn't be like, well, he shouldn't get locked up, you know?
ian crossland
Yeah, maybe violent crimes are definitely... I think crime is crime.
tim pool
If she committed a crime, she goes to jail.
ian crossland
I don't know if it necessarily needs to be that extreme, but jail needs to be reformed.
tim pool
So what, she gets a free pass and regular people don't?
ian crossland
Well, it just depends on what people do.
tim pool
Let's say she didn't do this, but she had people who wiped her servers and smashed up her phones.
lydia smith
Deposed a Libyan dictator?
ian crossland
If we could prove all that?
tim pool
It's a fact.
The people who are managing her data smashed cell phones with hammers and then used Bleachbet, a software to purchase servers.
ian crossland
My personal approach is different than my moral beliefs.
Like, I try to look at the big picture and not be emotional about it.
As a species, I don't think if we're trying to tag each other and go after each other all the time, the really powerful people that we're going after are going to keep stopping us from advancing.
tim pool
And if politicians can see that they'll get away with the crime because of that mentality, then they'll commit crimes.
And they'll be like, what's the worst that's gonna happen?
Now that I'm a politician, I can't go to jail.
They'll never lock me up, it'll be too divisive.
I was just thinking about- That's what's happening.
ian crossland
The Panama Papers.
Did you- About offshore banking.
About how horribly illegal it is and so many people are doing it anyway.
tim pool
Did you hear that upwards of 31 mobile phones from the Mueller team were wiped?
ian crossland
No.
tim pool
Before being given to the DOJ for investigation?
Yep.
Yeah, uh-huh.
ian crossland
You think there'll be a reckoning and a bunch of people are gonna- I don't think it's gonna happen.
tim pool
Never gonna happen.
It's not gonna happen.
lydia smith
Nope.
tim pool
Ooh, here we go.
The Emperor says, I just got polled.
One of the automated questions asks for what issue I am most worried about, but it only had six options, all of which were Democratic talking points.
That is a trick from Democratic groups.
But Trump does it.
I got a poll from Trump once.
It was hilarious.
It was like, in your opinion, you know, it's like, Donald Trump is doing a blank job as president, and it was like, amazing, great, and good, and other.
I was like, I get it.
ian crossland
I got some weird text from the Biden campaign today.
I don't know if you guys got this.
tim pool
No, what does it say?
ian crossland
It was to the wrong person, though.
Hi, Jamie.
I'm Younga, a volunteer with the DNC.
Hispanic Heritage Month is coming up.
Will you be there?
It's a big, long text.
unidentified
Really?
Be there to support Biden?
Yeah.
ian crossland
I don't know how they got my number.
tim pool
Joe Biden's scary.
ian crossland
And I'm not Jamie.
lydia smith
And you're not Hispanic.
tim pool
It must be a wrong number.
ian crossland
Terrible marketing though.
tim pool
Maybe it's on purpose.
Maybe it's on purpose.
Superman if you wasn't scared of green rocks says great show everyone Tim Tony Hawk pro skater review everybody hit that hit that Everybody hit like Ian spin that UFO.
I could read your mind, bro Tony Hawk pro skater review Tony Hawk's pro skater is an arcade game It is it is it is only somewhat a skateboarding game in the sense that it uses skateboarding mechanics But the actual game itself is stringing together Commands.
You're hitting buttons to make a guy do a bunch of ridiculous things to rack up multipliers.
It's an arcade game.
It's one of the best arcade games.
It's a very unique and amazing game where the goal is to, like, string together all these ridiculous tricks and then be like, I got 50 million points.
ian crossland
So you have Skate XL and I notice you barely touch Tony Hawk, you just play Skate.
tim pool
Because I'll play skater- like, yeah, exactly.
Skater XL is the new, uh, like, si- skating sim game.
There's no points.
You just do the tricks.
And so if you want to just, you know, I finish skating, but I'm still, like, in that skate mindset, you can- it's fun.
You can make the guy do, like, a laser flip nose grind on a handrail.
And that's just skating sim.
ian crossland
So what would you give Tony Hawk?
Scale of 1 to 10.
Uh, 7.
tim pool
No decimal points.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
But it's a different game.
I don't play Tony Hawk as a game where it's like... When I play Skater XL, it's to like, try and get him to do specific tricks for fun.
ian crossland
What would you have given Tony Hawk when it first came out, 1 to 10?
tim pool
Actually, the first one, 7.
The second one, like, 9.
And then, after that, it was kind of wonky.
This one, the new 1 and 2, I'd give probably like a 7.
ian crossland
Okay.
Is it because it's dated?
tim pool
Yeah, they redid everything.
It's kind of cool, but it is still pretty dated.
So it's really fun to play, and they're really pushing it.
But I'm like, it's just Tony Hawk.
You know what I mean?
I'm glad they remade it, because you couldn't get it on, you know, the newer Playstations anymore.
And it is a really fun game.
But they definitely should have just made a new one and done it right.
They did Tony Hawk 5 and it was just not good.
So they should have redid Tony Hawk 1 and 2 and they should have just made Tony Hawk Remastered.
Not Remastered, but the reboot.
ian crossland
Yeah, something like Skater.
I mean, the action scene is hot.
tim pool
My issue with it, where it knocks down a little bit, is the nostalgia marketing thing.
They got a bunch of people in there, and it's like, I remember when I was a little kid, and they're going for, like, the 38-year-old dude who's, like, you know... Yeah, and they're all getting paid.
He was, like, 17 when the game came out, and he was playing with his friends in college or whatever when he was a little older.
And now they're bringing the game back, and all these older guys have their kids, and they're like, you never played Tony Hawk, you gotta play this, and they're playing with their kids.
And it's fun, it's fun, you know?
It's an arcade game.
It's like, if, like, your grandpa wants to play Pong with you or whatever.
ian crossland
Oh.
tim pool
All right, let's see.
Jonathan Loren says, first, I stopped Crowder's stream because he wouldn't shut up while saying, listen to Trump's response, thereby defeating the purpose of streaming the town hall.
Honestly, I've enjoyed watching your live stream far more than his lately.
Keep it up, dude.
Wow.
That's a very big compliment because I think Crowder does a really, like his show is much better than, I don't know, whatever.
I'm not going to, I guess, I guess I'll just say I'm the best.
Let's put it that way.
lydia smith
Lydia is the best.
tim pool
Lydia's great.
ian crossland
Crowder does a phenomenal Trump impression.
tim pool
Does he really?
ian crossland
I just saw one on Twitter.
He is great.
He did a Rogan interviews Trump thing.
lydia smith
He's a funny dude.
I enjoy him.
ian crossland
What is this?
tim pool
Dax says, please Tim, check out Tucker 41 minutes ago.
YouTube won't let me post the link to you now.
ian crossland
What is it?
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
What is this?
Someone about... Steven Vartanian says, I've heard Alex Jones mention you on a show recently, that he's a fan of yours and wants to collaborate with you.
Any plans to make that happen?
I don't know if I have the functional capacity to make something like that happen.
ian crossland
We should do a shooting video with Alex, where he trains you to shoot.
tim pool
I mean, yeah, we could totally do something like that.
unidentified
That'd be fun.
tim pool
In terms of, like, the show, to be completely honest with everybody, there's, like, a legal capacity that I wouldn't know how to deal with.
And also a media capacity that I don't think... Like, I'm not a big company with, like, a legal department and with a marketing team and with, like, special lawyers for any of this stuff.
And I would get just annihilated in the press and I wouldn't know how to deal with any of that stuff.
I'm just a dude who, like, turned the camera on and started talking to it and then got some friends together and we talked about it.
And so, there's, like, there's... I don't know.
I wouldn't know what to do.
I guess the easy way to put it, I'd be like, yeah, it'd be cool to do something.
Maybe you're right, a shooting video would be fun.
You know what I think it is?
We should definitely, when we have this new house we're building out for the new studio, a vlog would be the right way to do it.
Because then we could talk about whatever we want, we could walk around, and that is the appropriate... I think that would be cool.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
That'd be really cool.
lydia smith
That'd be so fun.
tim pool
Also, I don't know if I could handle, like, that dude... Like, when... I don't know if you guys saw the... Was it Logan Paul, I think?
ian crossland
What about him?
tim pool
Did a podcast with him.
And then, like, Alex was like, punch me!
Punch me!
How do I convince my mom Trump isn't that bad?
She said in the Woodward interview he praised North Korea and Russian dictators.
I'd be like, Alex, stop.
ian crossland
Yeah, that's what they want to see.
tim pool
I know, I know.
It might be really funny.
It might be really funny.
Sideways says, how do I convince my mom Trump isn't that bad?
She said in the Woodward interview, he praised North Korea and Russian dictators.
I love my mom dearly, but can't tell her.
And most co-workers are voting Trump.
Just tell her straight up.
ian crossland
And he didn't praise them.
He said that they were a better leader than Biden.
And I gave Biden a 17.
So that only means that they're an 18.
It doesn't mean that they're great.
He just said they're not as bad as Biden.
lydia smith
Oh my goodness.
A little hyperbolic there.
tim pool
Robert Johnson says, Tucker had a virologist on with evidence COVID was released weapon from China.
That is a bold statement for which I require copious amounts of evidence.
lydia smith
Yeah, remember there was a lady who fled China and I'm assuming she gave an interview.
tim pool
She got banned.
Yeah, she got banned.
lydia smith
Yeah, I'd be interested to see that.
tim pool
Ginger Brown says 2019 House Democrats tried to revise Voter Rights Act.
Locals suppressing votes within 10-year span.
Feds run elections.
Democrats consider voter ID suppression.
Red states lose autonomy.
Yikes, man.
Blacklist Universe says, I played the original 720 in Steve Caballero's room.
The original 720?
Uh, at his mom's house.
Oh, oh, like the first 720?
Wait.
At his mom's house when I was a teen.
Also, George's comics are awesome.
Almost as awesome as Maga-nificent 7 on Indiegogo now.
So, uh, My Hero Maga-demia is one of the funniest comics.
We have it.
Someone sent it to us.
I wonder if I've looked at that.
But this one is... We pulled this out to show somebody.
ian crossland
Art is incredible.
His art is incredible.
lydia smith
He's so talented.
I love it.
tim pool
It's amazing stuff.
He's working on like a Biden horror thing right now and he's tweeting about it.
For Halloween.
Yeah, for Halloween.
So yes, we're just giving tons of shouts.
So anyway, just to be like, we pulled this comic out of George Alexopolis' art because someone was here.
It was when Colin was here.
And we were like, we were talking about it and then I showed it to him.
So then we had it sitting on the table.
So then, you know, Ian's looking at it.
ian crossland
I like it.
tim pool
But also I like, so I pulled up a bunch of his comics recently and they're all really great, you know.
Let's see.
Deloria Shine says, thank you for being my red pill.
Did you guys hear about the massive protest in Montreal over the weekend?
Tons of USA chants and Trump flags.
Really?
lydia smith
Was that their gun control thing?
tim pool
Montreal.
I don't know.
lydia smith
I wonder.
Wow.
Let's look it up.
tim pool
Will Rushing says, my friend got a Biden call the other day and it said he was voting for Trump.
The person over the phone said, have fun staying alive in Trump's America.
No way!
Who would really say that to somebody?
I get all these text messages from people who say things, you know, like, hi, this is Joe Jeremy with the, you know, bill campaign for a Democrat in this random jurisdiction.
And the only thing I ever do is paste.
Does your candidate support the Democrats' efforts to repeal Prop 209 in California?
ian crossland
Is that the civil rights?
tim pool
Yeah, repealing civil rights.
And the funny thing is, I got one response that was an affirmative, unaffirmative, where they said, well, you know, we haven't taken an official stance on this yet, but we can tell you all the ways we're fighting for affirmative action.
And I'm like, so you agree with what they're doing?
Because that was the question.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Joey Boy says, have you heard about the shooting of the young Republican interns in Minneapolis?
I did.
And they put out this story headline saying, young Republicans shot!
But the motive was not political.
And I'm like, then why did you tell me they were Republicans?
Why was that relevant?
It was kids standing out in front of a supermarket or something and they got shot.
And then they were like, let's make it political.
Sure.
All right, let's see what we got.
Ooh, Caroline Swing says, more Lydia, please.
The guests are great, but a day or two a week of Lydia being the guest would be fabulous.
ian crossland
I agree.
tim pool
Well, Lydia's a permanent function of the show.
lydia smith
I am, in fact.
tim pool
She can just yell all the time.
ian crossland
I think Lydia should do her own show, too.
lydia smith
I will at some point, after we get to the new house.
tim pool
Patrick Winter says, Tim, I live in PA and it's a Lancaster.
Lancaster, huh?
Interesting.
Interesting.
lydia smith
My sources were correct.
tim pool
Damian Demon says, Trump just said the Harris and Biden campaign because Harris thinks she'll be president.
LOL, Trump is a G. Did you see Kamala Harris said the Harris administration?
Yeah.
And then Biden said the Harris-Biden administration.
ian crossland
Dude, what is going on?
lydia smith
I think we know what's going on.
tim pool
Conspiracy theory.
lydia smith
Oh boy.
tim pool
You ready?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Kamala Harris was supposed to be the nominee.
unidentified
I think you're right.
tim pool
And she was actually rising in the polls until Tulsi Gabbard nuked her from orbit.
lydia smith
Yes.
ian crossland
I think you're right.
tim pool
Kamala Harris crashed and they said, what do we do?
Plan B, Biden wins, picks Kamala Harris.
I predicted Kamala.
I said, I said Kamala.
Actually, let me see if I can find something in the RealClearPolitics average.
lydia smith
I predicted Warren for some reason.
That was way off.
ian crossland
I think I predicted Bernie Sanders.
unidentified
You wish, Bernie Sanders.
tim pool
So let's see here.
Uh, yep.
No, wait, that's Warren.
Okay, so no, Kamala never really did that.
Well, I guess I'm wrong.
Which one was Harris?
lydia smith
Oh, no, no, no.
tim pool
She was doing really well, but she never surpassed Biden.
But she was, yeah, right.
So she was doing really well.
She got nuked by Tulsi.
lydia smith
Where was that?
tim pool
Can you see it?
No, I don't know.
It might be right here because she's like skyrocketed.
I think that's, yeah, and Biden dipped because Harris attacked Joe Biden.
lydia smith
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
And then she went...
Got knocked out.
ian crossland
And she didn't grow after that.
tim pool
And then look at this, April 8th, Joe Biden, 60.8%.
ian crossland
Dude, he didn't even start to run until like a month and a half after.
tim pool
And he was losing.
What the heck?
It is the Harris administration, and we all know it.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
Ladies and gentlemen, there is a town hall, I guess, on, and I think we'll try and catch as much as we can, so we better let you guys get to it.
So make sure you follow me on Twitter, Instagram, and Parler at TimCast, and you can check out my other YouTube channels where I do daily content all for the day, like every single hour of the day.
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Of course, you can follow Ian.
ian crossland
Do it.
You can follow me on Twitter, um, Mines, and YouTube, but you can also follow me on Twitch.
I just started streaming video games last night with Adam Krigler, who's also on Twitch.
You go to Twitch.tv slash Ian Crossland, Twitch.tv slash Adam Krigler, and we will be gaming tonight after this show.
tim pool
So you're gonna skip the town hall meeting?
ian crossland
I think so.
I have a date with seven days to die.
unidentified
All right.
Oh, cool.
tim pool
And of course, you can follow at Sour Patch Lids, L-Y-D-S.
lydia smith
Correct.
tim pool
Before you go, make sure you smash the like button.
All your superchats, thank you so much, because it really does support the show.
And we will be back tomorrow at 8 p.m.
Live!
And, uh, Ian will spin the UFO.
But again, on my other channels, I've got content... Actually, between my three channels, I think we have content every hour, starting from 10 until 10 p.m.
lydia smith
Yep.
Twelve hours a day.
ian crossland
Yep.
tim pool
Wow, that's ridiculous.
ian crossland
It's heating up.
tim pool
Twelve hours a day.
unidentified
No joke.
That's so good.
How fun.
lydia smith
That's impressive.
tim pool
I produce way too much content.
ian crossland
No, you're doing it just right.
tim pool
Alright everybody, thanks for hanging out.
We will see you all tomorrow.
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