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Sept. 17, 2020 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - Barr Told Feds To Charge Antifa With SEDITION, Man ARRESTED Defending Home From BLM
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tim pool
We could be facing the end of the Antifa riots.
Although, for the most part, they've kind of stopped in Portland.
And many people are asking why.
You can go in two directions with it.
Donald Trump, well, you can go in a bunch of different directions, but I go in the direction of Donald Trump has solved the problem.
OSP got deputized, all of a sudden these people are facing federal charges and they're gone.
Other people think Antifa is roaming about setting fires to the brush, where there was one leftist guy who did.
He got arrested for it.
We're assuming he did, because he got arrested for it and the cops said they caught him.
But I don't know about all that.
But Bill Barr apparently has another solution to ending the Antifa problem, and it's charging them with sedition.
I wonder if people know what that means.
According to the Wall Street Journal, it basically means, there's a conspiracy to attack government agents or officials that pose an imminent danger.
Essentially, Insurrection.
Trying to overthrow the government.
And, uh, I mean, they kind of are doing that.
So, I don't know.
This one's kind of weird.
So, anyway.
We got this story.
It is gonna be an antifa-palooza, man.
We got crazy stories, all this craziness.
Crime skyrocketing in Minneapolis, and now all of a sudden the city council is all angry, like, my constituents are outraged at the crime.
And it's like, yo, you voted to abolish the police outright.
You got no grounds for complaint.
We also got a very sympathetic piece from BuzzFeed about these sad Black Lives Matter protesters who were throwing Molotov cocktails and are now facing life in prison.
But in the end, of course, the other lead story is this man in Wisconsin, a mob, Black Lives Matter, shows up to his house.
And he brandishes a weapon through his window, points it at him.
Cops came and arrested him.
The police have issued a statement, apparently he was drunk at the time, but there's still a whole lot of questions about whether or not you have a right to defend yourself.
Because many of these people had previously gone to other homes, harassing people.
One house was set on fire twice, basically destroying the whole thing.
And apparently two 14-year-olds got shot during this...
Unrest, whatever you want to call it.
So if that dude lives in this community, and he knows that, and a mob shows up,
I have to imagine he's probably going to be like, I'm not playing around, I got a gun.
Well, now he's in jail and everyone danced around his house, so
sedition will be an interesting charge.
Tonight, on the TimCast IRL podcast, I'm hanging out with some friends.
We got, of course, Sour Patch Lids, who most of you know.
lydia smith
Hello.
tim pool
And hanging out with Ian as well.
ian crossland
Hey, what up?
tim pool
Ian's chillin.
lydia smith
There's Ian.
tim pool
We're chillin.
We're gonna we're gonna talk about these things.
Because Ian immediately was like, he started going on this like pro Antifa rant.
unidentified
And he was like, Oh my gosh, build it up, Tim.
tim pool
He was like, Antifa's the best.
And I was like, how dare you?
ian crossland
I've been playing contrary a little bit just because I like the debate.
So I'll give you the other side if I can.
tim pool
Yeah, we're having a conversation.
So one of the other stories we have is about Andy Ngo, a journalist who has been publishing public records on arrests of many of these Antifa people.
And Ian was sort of challenging it, and we had a conversation about it.
And I think it'll be interesting for, you know, we'll dig into these things.
ian crossland
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Especially in regards to Andy posting like, so people would get arrested and then he'd post their mugshots right away.
And I was like, is that like... It's legal, I know, but is it the wrong thing to do?
Because if they turn out to be innocent and he's basically ruined their lives, it's kind of like printing a fake news article and then a printed retraction the next day.
tim pool
Nope, I disagree.
You're wrong.
ian crossland
Okay, tell me why.
Give it to me.
tim pool
We will.
We will get into it.
ian crossland
We'll get into it.
All right.
tim pool
We gotta talk about the first story.
The question is, is Antifa trying to overthrow the government and should they be charged with sedition?
So let's just, we'll jump into the first story.
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ian crossland
Absolutely crush that thing.
tim pool
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Check out this first story from the Wall Street Journal.
Barr tells prosecutors to consider charging violent protesters with sedition.
I love this.
I actually looked up what sedition was, and there have been different sedition acts implemented in the U.S., and I think the past several iterations have been unconstitutional.
They've been repealed.
To bring a sedition case, prosecutors would have to prove there was a conspiracy to attack government agents or officials that posed an imminent danger.
They say Attorney General William Barr told the nation's federal prosecutors to begin aggressive, to be aggressive, when charging violent demonstrators with crimes, including potentially prosecuting them for plotting to overthrow the U.S.
government, people familiar with the conversation said.
In a conference call with U.S.
attorneys across the country last week, Mr. Barr warned that sometimes violent demonstrations across the U.S.
could worsen as the November, that some, sometimes, They could worsen as November presidential election approaches.
He encouraged the prosecutors to seek a number of federal charges, including under a rarely used sedition law, even when state charges could apply.
The call underscores the priority Mr. Barr has given to prosecuting crimes connected to violence during months of protests against racial injustice, leading to major property damage, as President Trump has made a broader crackdown on the violence and property destruction a key campaign issue.
U.S.
attorneys have broad discretion in what charges they bring.
Federal prosecutors have charged more than 200 people with violent crimes related to the protests, most of whom face counts of arson, assaulting federal officers, gun crimes.
FBI officials earlier this year described the perpetrators as largely opportunistic individuals taking advantage of the protests.
In more recent months, police officials say they are alarmed by the presence of armed fringe groups from both sides of the political spectrum.
Mr. Barr has blamed much of the violence on leftist extremists, including Antifa, a loose network of groups and people that describe themselves as opposing fascism, and which Mr. Barr has described as a movement advocating revolution.
Mr. Barr is not wrong.
They quite literally carry signs that read, revolution nothing less.
And what did you say to me?
ian crossland
What kind of revolution?
They want an economic revolution?
Is it an industrial revolution?
tim pool
I mean, I think they want a political revolution.
ian crossland
But think is the key word there.
tim pool
Well, in what context are they saying revolution?
ian crossland
There is no context.
tim pool
Yeah, there is.
They're marching around saying burn it down and throwing bricks at cops.
ian crossland
So now there's context.
tim pool
Yeah, they're throwing bricks at cops and screaming revolution.
ian crossland
Maybe they want a violent political revolution.
If that's the case, yeah, then that's what we gotta prevent.
tim pool
You know what I think, man?
I don't think they actually want anything.
So one of the other stories we were talking about is what's going on with Andy Ngo.
And there's a story written by Wilamit.
Wilamit?
ian crossland
Yeah, Wilamit.
tim pool
Wilamit.
I've been pronouncing it wrong apparently.
ian crossland
Welcome to the New World.
tim pool
Wilamit Week.
And they highlight these two Antifa people who were like, every day they put on their protest outfits and they go out together and the boyfriend is on the front line playing drums so he wears a bulletproof vest and she's a medic so she puts on her medic gear and I'm like, Just play D&D.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, I'm gonna be the medic today.
Okay, Dungeons & Dragons.
Right there, you know?
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
They're playing a game.
ian crossland
And then make a video, you know, talking about your beliefs and get 60,000 subscribers and change the world that way.
tim pool
No, they're not even trying to change the world.
ian crossland
I mean, you gotta get your fantasy out, I agree.
You gotta game, or do something to get your fantasy out.
But they really want to change the world, otherwise they wouldn't be out there.
tim pool
I'll take some pool noodles, I will slide them over a mop, and you can whack each other all day and night with it while screaming that you're, you know, don't hit me, I'm the medic, I'm the medic, you're cheating, you're cheating.
You can still hit the medic.
unidentified
You can still hit the medic.
ian crossland
You gotta go for the medic first, actually.
tim pool
I guess.
Okay, so anyway, we can definitely talk about that, but I guess the question is, Sedition.
Too far?
Not far enough?
lydia smith
Doesn't go too far enough, I think.
ian crossland
It doesn't go too far enough.
Okay, sedition means that they're conspiring.
And I think yesterday we talked about that, and I think that they are conspiring.
lydia smith
So the definition that I have for sedition is just conduct or speech inciting people to rebel against authority of a state or a monarch.
And to me, that's basically exactly what they're doing.
Like, how else would you describe marching in the street with signs and throwing bricks literally at cops and at federal officers?
That is the embodiment of the state right in front of you.
tim pool
I mean, they're straight up saying they want to burn it all down.
ian crossland
You guys are in reading about it a lot more than I am.
I'm not getting an organized command to destroy the U.S.
government at all.
I'm just getting more of a violent anger and lashing out.
tim pool
Maybe for regular people, but it's being weaponized specifically by extremists who want to destroy.
There's a group of far-left extremists.
They're revolutionary communists.
They want to overthrow everything.
So they're going and finding anger from people in the community, and then using that to accomplish their goals.
So if regular people might just get charged with some state-level charge, but then you'll end up with the actual organizers getting charged with sedition, maybe that makes sense.
ian crossland
That might make a lot more sense.
I would hate to see, like, frontline people that don't realize what they're involved in to start getting charged with sedition.
tim pool
Yeah, stupid people, but that's most of them.
lydia smith
Wow.
I think this is why they keep using the term anarchist, which you obviously vehemently disagree with.
tim pool
Oh yeah.
lydia smith
Because they just want to destroy.
They don't actually have a program that they're trying to put into place.
Because we talk about them wanting power and wanting communism, but I think you're right.
I think they don't even want that.
They just want to destroy stuff.
tim pool
So, well, anyway, look, I looked up sedition, and the crazy thing is, so, I didn't know this.
There were originally 17 amendments proposed, articles proposed for the first Bill of Rights, and then it got, like, they, like, they winded it down to condense it down to two.
I'm sorry, two.
They condensed it down to 12, and then got rid of two, the first two.
And it's actually really funny, but we've actually had multiple instances of the Sedition Act So the first one, President John Adams signed into law in 1798.
It set out punishments of up to two years of imprisonment for opposing or resisting any law of the United States or writing or publishing, quote, false, scandalous and malicious writing about the president or the Congress.
unidentified
Yikes.
tim pool
Though not the office of the vice president.
Then occupied by Adam's political opponent, Thomas Jefferson.
That is like... That sounds like just hardcore corruption.
You know?
lydia smith
That sounds like definitely heavy-handed.
tim pool
The president being like, you can make fun of the guy I don't like, but not me.
Otherwise you go to jail.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
So check this out.
This act of Congress was allowed to expire in 1801 after Jefferson's election to the presidency.
Jefferson pardoned those still serving sentences and fines were repaid by the government.
This law was never appealed to the United States Supreme Court, but opponents claimed it was unconstitutional under the First Amendment.
Yeah, it is.
And then we had another one in 1918.
And I guess this is because of World War I or whatever.
We had another Sedition Act.
Dude, I'm reading all this stuff.
This country used to be way more authoritarian.
ian crossland
Especially during World Wars.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
Or wars in general.
tim pool
Didn't Abraham Lincoln suspend habeas corpus?
ian crossland
I believe he did, yeah.
tim pool
I've heard that.
lydia smith
He sure did.
tim pool
And then in World War II, you had the Office of Censorship, which controlled the flow of information into and out of the United States.
Jeez.
ian crossland
Yeah, man.
Even the Vietnam conscription era was terrifying.
Terrifying.
I used to live and be like, I hope I'm 27 before anything goes crazy, man.
I hope I'm 35.
tim pool
Because the draft still exists.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
It's just, well, now it's all volunteer.
They don't necessarily need to draft anybody.
But here's the craziest thing.
So we're going to segue from Bill Barr and the sedition stuff into these Antifa facing life in prison.
But I got to highlight something that I find really, really interesting.
In 1798, I got it.
There it is.
In 1798, there were 17 articles approved by the House.
This is for the Bill of Rights, right?
And then eventually, we ended up in September with 12.
The first two didn't make it.
The first one had to do with, like, you can't change the salaries of representatives or something.
Whatever.
The first one was supposed to set the amount of representatives existed.
So the idea was that for every 30,000 people in the U.S., you'd get one representative.
Could you imagine how many people in the house you would have?
lydia smith
We'd have so many.
ian crossland
We'd have like four.
What do we measure, like 7,000?
tim pool
If it was for every 30,000, it would be like 10,000.
unidentified
Dude.
tim pool
But OK, so this makes sense because...
ian crossland
In order to represent people, you need a small group, because one person can't represent 70,000 people accurately.
I can't even represent you accurately.
If I had to be like, okay, I'm speaking for Tim today, I could only do a little pretty good accurate.
Imagine 10 people that all had different opinions, or had somewhat different opinions, and then now 1,000.
So I can see why they wanted to limit it to 3,000 or whatever.
But then, so what do we have?
tim pool
30,000?
ian crossland
Do we have 6,000 representatives, or is it just a flawed system?
tim pool
I don't think they predicted how many people were going to live in this country, and that was it.
They were like, eh.
So they said, eventually, it will be no more than one for every 50,000, which would have brought us to, in 2010, 6,563 members of the House.
You would need, like, a stadium for that.
ian crossland
You need representatives for the representatives.
tim pool
Yeah.
Well, almost.
You're getting close to it.
ian crossland
So ineffective.
tim pool
Yeah.
So ultimately, this is still pending before Congress, I guess.
But the laws for the Sedition Act of 1918 and whatever, it's a seditious conspiracy.
So this is what I think they're specifically referring to.
If two or more persons in any state or territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined or imprisoned not more than twenty years Or both.
Oh, and there it is.
For a seditious conspiracy charge to be effected, a crime need only be planned.
It need not be actually attempted.
According to Andre Torres and Jose E. Velasquez, the accusation of seditious conspiracy is of political nature and was used almost exclusively against Puerto Rican independentistas in the 20th century.
However, the act was also used in the 20th century against communists, the United Freedom Front, neo-Nazis, and terrorists such as the Provisional IRA in Massachusetts and Omar Abdel Rahman.
Well, I think that actually makes sense.
I mean, when you look at Antifa attacking the federal courthouse in Portland, they were planning this.
They were putting weapons, there was like a backpack found with commercial-grade fireworks, explosives, bullets.
And there was one, magazines were found with like red paint on them.
So, sounds like they were organized and planning for a siege on a federal building.
And they were trying to break into it.
ian crossland
Dude, that's it.
That's what this law is for.
Preventing that.
tim pool
So they were trying to break in, but can they prove that people were planning to break in specifically to like... They specifically went to the federal building to destroy the... to harm and blow up the federal building.
ian crossland
They wanted to set it on fire.
tim pool
There's a video of them trying to cut through the chains with like welding tools to like get in the building.
ian crossland
The question, I guess one question is, is it a political movement, this Antifa thing?
Or is it just like a lash out against fascism and it's...
tim pool
What fascism?
ian crossland
Corporate government collusion.
tim pool
The reason why I wanted to go through these past edition laws is to make the point we are so much more free today than back then.
It's like maybe that's the problem.
We've actually become so free, these people are running around unchecked, unopposed.
ian crossland
And like we were saying, World War II, maybe those laws actually helped us win the war.
Like, it was crazy lockdown martial law, but we won the war, and we didn't have German spies sending information out of the country, as far as we know.
tim pool
I mean, that's a big challenge in freedom versus security.
Authoritarianism can be efficient in the short term, because it allows you to execute very quick decisions and moves.
But in the long term, it completely destabilizes a civilization because one individual can't accurately plan a long-term economy, and they can't accommodate everybody's desires.
ian crossland
So if we could turn something on and then automatically have sunset clause, like turn on some authoritarian move and then have it disappear after two years.
tim pool
I'm wary of any kind of emergency powers.
You know, you look at what's going on in Michigan.
Governor Whitmer, there's now 400,000 signatures to strip the governor of Michigan of the existing governorship's emergency powers because how the governor today has abused them.
They won't give it up.
And the craziest thing is Whitmer, she's the Democrat in Michigan who's, you know, locking everything down and she's nuts.
She's basically telling people, she's straight up telling people, don't sign this.
Don't repeal my power.
ian crossland
Do you think it would be more effective to get her out of office or to repeal the power of the office?
tim pool
Get the power out of there.
ian crossland
So you don't like executive action, executive authority makes you nervous?
Too much.
tim pool
Too much.
We need a good amount.
This is too much.
You look at how she's abused people and shut down, like, tiny barbershops run by, like, little old men.
ian crossland
Yeah, dude.
One person should not have that kind of power when it comes to state law.
tim pool
And so anybody who tells me, like, listen, if I go to you and say, we got 400,000 people who say you have too much power, and they go, no!
And they're like, I am the Senate!
And then fly at me with their saber out.
Yeah, that person's got to go.
ian crossland
That's a Robin Hood villain.
That's the sheriff.
tim pool
That's literally Palpatine.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
Dude, if they come in and say, it's time for you to give up your emergency powers, they should be like, okay.
ian crossland
Or at least strip it for temporarily.
tim pool
No, I mean, look, it's an emergency power.
It's supposed to be temporary.
We are a country that requires the consent of the governed for the government to exist.
There should never be a point where the governor is like, do not take my power from me.
ian crossland
Right.
You defer to your populace.
tim pool
Yeah, if 400,000 people say, we've signed signatures for this, my response would be like, can we do a referendum?
Can we like put it on a ballot and then have everyone go and they can say yes or no?
Because emergency powers can work if you need to move quickly.
If you're like, whoa, we got a major disaster, I need to be able to move faster than a council can to protect the people.
ian crossland
So Barr, do you like this emergency, this sedition concept?
tim pool
Man, that's tough.
I feel like Antifa, if there was a line of like... So first of all, they're criminals.
That's not even a question.
You go out and you do these things, you organize this stuff, you're committing crimes.
ian crossland
Some of them.
Some people may identify as Antifa and not be committing any crimes.
No, no, no.
tim pool
I'm specifically referring to them who go out in Portland.
And I would even go as far to say, if you are out there and you watch someone throw an explosive and you stay, you're helping them.
ian crossland
Whoa, dude, that's risky.
unidentified
Let me put it this way.
tim pool
Throwing an explosive is a very serious crime.
ian crossland
I mean, if I don't report a crime, I think that's a crime of me.
tim pool
I didn't say you have to report anything.
ian crossland
So if I see you, if I'm out walking my dog and I see you throw a firebomb into someone's house and I don't report that, is that illegal of me?
No.
tim pool
Am I under... I think there may be some jurisdictions that would have some, but I think for the most part, no.
ian crossland
You just run and... What if I just stood there and watched?
tim pool
Nothing.
ian crossland
Exactly.
It's not illegal to stand and watch.
tim pool
These people are linking arms and they're standing in front of everyone.
ian crossland
Oh, well that's different.
tim pool
But that's what they're all doing.
Some people leave.
I'm not talking about those people.
So if you're at one of these events and you're holding a shield or you're standing there side by side and people are standing next to you throwing things and you know it, like Ted Wheeler was out there.
The mayor of Portland throwing explosives.
The way I describe it is this.
Throwing an explosive is a very, very serious crime.
You could blow someone's hand off.
Like, one cop got hit in the leg and had to be brought into the hospital for, like, an emergency, uh, you know, medical treatment.
I don't know exactly what happened with that.
But we saw the photos of cops with, like, their skin burned off from the explosions and stuff like that.
I'd argue throwing an explosive at someone is probably worse than robbing a bank.
Robbing a bank is a course of demand.
So I'll put it this way.
If one of these Antifa guys walks into a bank, imagine it this way.
An Antifa guy goes, hey everybody, we're all gonna go inside this bank and we're gonna protest the 1%.
And you said, okay.
You walked in and you're standing next to him and then he raises a gun and then he says, give me all your money now!
And you go, this is great!
And you're standing in front of him while it's going down?
Aren't you an accomplice, a betting?
ian crossland
At that point, yeah.
But if it's on the street, you're across the street and you're throwing a firebomb and I'm 30 feet away from you, dressed like you.
But I'm not necessarily part of that.
tim pool
All right, let's try again.
Let's say this Antifa guy says, hey everybody, we're going to go to a bank and we're going to protest the 1% by all wearing the same masks.
And then you say, okay, and you go in the bank and one guy with a mask raises a gun and says, anybody move?
ian crossland
You're going to get busted at that point.
tim pool
You're helping them!
ian crossland
You're conspiring, whether you meant to or not.
tim pool
Yeah.
So, there is a fine line between how do we deal with those who have chosen to stay and stand side by side with those who are laying siege to a federal building to break in and cause damage, and those who thought they were going to a peaceful protest and say, I gotta get out of here.
ian crossland
And sometimes you'll go, they'll be burning a building you don't even know it a block away because you don't see it, but you're complicit because you dressed like them and you didn't run.
tim pool
But I gotta add, you'd think after 90 plus days, what's the line?
After 10 days of them laying siege to a courthouse and you decide to go?
Well put it this way, someone's robbing a bank every Friday and you're like, I'm gonna go next Friday and see what's going on.
ian crossland
Dude, they're sieging federal property, they should go to jail.
They should be taken off the street.
tim pool
So all of these moms, the mom block or whatever, where they're all linking arms and shielding Antifa as they throw explosives, yeah man, I think that crosses the line.
Now, sedition?
I don't know, they're not organizing, they're just being dumb.
ian crossland
But are they organizing?
We don't know.
tim pool
The wall of moms?
I mean, they coordinated their outfits.
ian crossland
Are they on Telegram chat?
Are they on Facebook, like, encrypted chats where they're all, like, getting funded?
There's no way to know.
tim pool
Well, there is.
I mean, I'm sure the government has ways of tracking their communications to varying degrees, but if they all show up wearing yellow with mom written on their chests, someone told them what to do and they didn't.
ian crossland
Right.
tim pool
So, there's a line, right?
That's what I'm saying.
Those people might get some kind of charge, like, when people start throwing explosives, and then a month later, you come down and shield them.
Okay, we have to assume.
We're not going to give you the benefit of the doubt.
I'm going to assume you must have known.
However, I don't think necessarily you can charge them with a crime, proving they knew, but you don't give them the benefit of the doubt.
So after the explosives are thrown, if they remain, then some, you know, light, lower-tier charge.
The people who run and say, I don't have anything to do with this, thank you for leaving, because these people are disrupting this, please point out the extremists, we'll arrest them, and then you can maintain your peaceful protest.
Because once they started arresting these people, everything cleared up.
ian crossland
I noticed that.
tim pool
Everything cleared up.
And they did a dance party.
And they got their peaceful protest.
And then all of a sudden, It's gone.
ian crossland
Dude, I wanted Trump to send in the National Guard, like, right away.
Day two.
tim pool
But could you imagine what the states would have done?
ian crossland
It would have been chaos, I'm glad.
I mean, I'm naive, but that's what I would have done if I was the president.
I would have said that to my advisors, like, let's send them in, and he probably did too.
tim pool
I bet he did, yeah.
And they were probably like, the mayor?
The governor?
The state AG, they are going to get everyone in opposition to you.
You are going to have business owners protesting you.
It would be total chaos.
ian crossland
You can't do it.
And he said at the town hall last night, he mentioned the National Guard again.
They were like, how would you have... And he was like, I would have sent the National Guard.
tim pool
But he was telling the governors to call in the National Guard.
What he was saying was, I have the availability, just let me know.
Because then it would be up to them.
But they didn't do it.
But Trump shut it down.
So let's do this.
I want to show you.
I want to go through how this all ended.
And there was an interesting story I saw from ZeroHedge.
ZeroHedge writes, the Portland riots just stopped.
Why?
Now, I know some people like Zero Hedge, they're not considered to be a credible outlet by NewsGuard, and just, like, really bad across the board.
I don't ever really read Zero Hedge or know much about them, but I can tell you that this article is insinuating that around the same time the riots were stopping in Portland, many similar people were seen near these areas where brush fires were starting.
And it kind of plays into like, are they perhaps starting brush fires?
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
Oh.
There is a photo of people wearing firefighter gear holding up an Antifa flag.
So it's all weird.
But I think there's a much, much easier way to explain why this all stopped.
And I think it's because Donald Trump stopped it.
ian crossland
That's a big part of it.
tim pool
And that's very simple.
So here's what Tyler Durden writes.
I guess like every article is by Tyler Durden.
ian crossland
How could this not be NewsGarder when Tyler Durden's writing all the articles?
lydia smith
Of course, of course, of course.
tim pool
So this is what they write.
Since May 29th, Portland has been the backdrop of more than 100 nights of Antifa, Anarchist, and Black Lives Matter Inc.
terroristic riots.
They set fires, looted, and intimidated people by threatening to burn them alive in their homes.
But after the millions of dollars of destruction, criminality, and thuggery is stopped last week, poof!
Why?
I certainly don't want to tempt these thugs, but it can't go without saying that Portland's 100-plus days of riots appeared to end after Wednesday, September 9th.
That was the last time the Portland Police Bureau warned about protesters with this tweet.
Saying Southwest Jefferson to Southwest Salmon from Southwest First to Southwest Broadway is closed to pedestrians but open for vehicular traffic.
All people must leave the area to the west now.
Chapman and Lownsdale squares are now closed.
That's just local jargon, sure, but that was what they said.
The usual livestreamers decamped to other riots and fires.
By September 10th, the overworked cops from Portland Police Bureau were offered out to assist other agencies.
Suddenly, instead of being required to work the riot lines, they were free.
Why?
On September 7th, to the morning of the 8th, the Pacific Northwest experienced a major wind event.
Winds gusted through Oregon and Washington at more than 60 miles per hour.
Fires that had been allowed to crackle along, such as the Beachy Fire, flared up, power lines were down, the fires kicked up, and then came the reports.
Clackamas County Sheriff officials reported that people had seen Antifa protester types reportedly stashing gas cans, looting, and looking ridiculously out of place.
They were taking pictures and giving locals grief for trying to keep them out of closed neighborhoods.
Locals wondered if there was a connection between the fires and the sightings of these folks.
BLM was seen there.
The original BLM, the Bureau of Land Management, not the group that borrowed the acronym.
Now, I want to point out, there was one guy who was described by Cairo 7 local news as being a frequent visitor of Defund the Police protests.
This guy got arrested.
The police said he was trying to set a fire.
That's the one guy we have.
There's been a bunch of other crazy-looking people, and I feel like I have an answer to why people thought that was the case.
Why were they seeing these Antifa types that were out of place?
Well, it's because these are many of the crazies who Antifa preys upon.
The organizers seek out these unwell people, give them a grievance, and then rally them to go cause destruction.
Because, idle hands are the devil's playground.
These people have nothing to do.
So when these people have nothing to do and the organizers are gone, what do they do?
They run amok.
I don't think these people starting fires are far leftists, for the most part.
I don't think they're intentionally, like, it's an Antifa conspiracy.
I think the insinuations through this are leading in the wrong direction.
They don't actually say that Antifa was causing this, however, they go on to, uh, Catherine Herridge, mentions this DHS leaked email that says, this was written on day 60 of the Portland riots, that Antifa is organized, not opportunistic.
They know what they're doing.
So then, this is how Zero Hedge ends.
They're organized, share the same tactics, and talk to each other.
Why are they so quiet right now?
Oregonians might well wonder that these threat actors are doing their arsons in the tinder dry woodlands of the state instead of nearby downtown Portland.
The riots have stopped.
Did they go to San Francisco or Lancaster, Pennsylvania, to raise hell?
Did they stop because of the smoky skies and air quality numbers that are off the charts?
It seems unlikely that a group that spawned a murderer, multiple arsonists, and police assaulters would be dissuaded by smoky quality air.
Is it because the media are busy covering the wildfires, and there's nothing in rioting for the terrorists?
Or is it because of something else?
The riots are over for now.
Why?
I actually have a very, very simple answer.
First, many of the fires, there's a ton of fires, many of them was arson.
Not the bigger ones, but people have been arrested for arson.
They're not Black Lives Matter.
But let's go back in time.
GDC statement on recent visits to defendants by the FBI, September 4th, 2020.
We have confirmed reports of the Federal Bureau of Investigation visiting people's homes in the last week or so.
The result of some of these visits is that people with state charges, whether they have been no complained or not, are being arrested by the FBI for federal charges of a similar nature.
Below are some of the steps to dealing with an FBI visit.
Now, I gotta admit, That's really good advice they give.
Like, you know, don't talk to the police, ask for a lawyer, don't lie, it's all very basic stuff.
They say if you were arrested on state charges, interfering with a peace officer, unlawful direct laser, anything like this, you may want to take some preventative measures in case you are visited and or arrested by federal law enforcement.
Some steps to take are below.
I don't care about that part.
And let's go back in time a little bit further.
September 1st.
Deputized troopers may snarl MOLTCO's protest prosecution plans.
Move seemingly overrides Multnomah County's District Attorney's limited prosecution approach.
Mic drop.
There it is.
Trump solved the problem.
That's why the riots have stopped.
ian crossland
And it could be a combination.
So Trump goes in, deputizes the cops.
They send it off to the feds.
The feds start busting the figureheads or the real dangerous people.
And then the rest of them are like, let's get out of town because the feds are coming.
So they scramble to the woods and start lighting fires.
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
I don't think that.
I think when the key organizers got snatched up by the feds, because was it Portland?
What do they call themselves?
The General Defense Committee.
They said the feds are coming door-to-door and you're getting federal charges similar to your state charges.
They grab the organizers.
Organizers are gone.
Now, the crazy people who were preyed upon by Antifa to be used as useful idiots to throw explosives, like that one dude.
You remember that guy with the shield and he was guarding naked Athena or whatever her name was?
ian crossland
No.
tim pool
There was that nude woman and this young guy was like shielding her.
Another video came out where someone hands him an explosive and then he throws it at the building.
It goes off.
He got charged for it.
They don't know who gave it to him.
He said some guy gave it to him, told him it was like a spinner.
It'll go wing and fly in the air.
Nope, it was a bomb.
That guy got in trouble.
The dude who gave him the bomb, I can only imagine, must have gotten arrested or Once the Feds started going in and arresting these people at their homes, the other organizers said, the jig is up, and they bolted, and they're gone.
That leaves all of these deranged and unwell people scattered.
Many of the actual far leftists probably started preparing for the siege on the White House on September 17th.
Many of them probably got scared, stay home, lock their door, or they're hiding at their friend's house.
Many of them are in jail right now being held by Feds and probably will never be released.
And then all of the crazy people who were wandering around bored and screaming because they're
literally unwell, wandered off and started starting fires. That makes a lot
of sense. That's my theory.
Look, I think that would require looking at some of these crazies who have started fires
and seeing if they were at any of these protests.
ian crossland
Yeah, exactly.
It's an assumption.
It's a safe assumption with a lot of moving parts.
But, you know, it may not be the Pete Crazies.
The fires might be unrelated.
But I think that's definitely the first part of what you said is extremely accurate.
tim pool
There are arsonist starting fires.
unidentified
100%.
tim pool
And one of them was a Black Lives Matter leftist.
Now, we should be able to easily prove whether or not many of these other people were at some of these protests.
But I guess if they weren't arrested, we wouldn't know.
But what happens when you have people who are throwing firebombs at Seattle and Portland police departments, and now the organizers are gone?
No one's giving them orders and telling them what to do.
ian crossland
Right.
tim pool
They go start fires somewhere else?
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean, these people were starting fires all over the place at the Portland police.
ian crossland
I mean, this is the best theory I can come up with.
tim pool
So the riots stopped, and it's very simple.
Donald Trump stopped them.
ian crossland
You know, it was a team effort, but yeah, he was leading the team.
tim pool
Well, I'll put it this way.
The buck stops with him.
He said, we're gonna deal with this.
He's got his appointees through the DHS and other organizations, and they took action, and they were smart, and they did it right.
We'll see what happens tomorrow night.
Tomorrow night's the White House siege.
ian crossland
Oh, wow.
tim pool
It's the non-violent siege of the White House for 30 days.
ian crossland
So, have they deputized any other city's cops?
tim pool
Uh, not that I know of.
ian crossland
That is such a cool idea.
tim pool
I mean, it's kind of worrying.
Why?
Well, the feds are supposed to operate within federal jurisdiction.
They're supposed to, like, the FBI deals with specific crimes pertaining to, you know, interstate commerce kind of things, or like a murderer crossing state lines.
Many of these people aren't from Portland, so the FBI would have jurisdiction.
But now, because localities are not actually dealing with these criminals, The feds are asserting some kind of warped jurisdiction to put an end to it.
I don't like it.
I don't like it because, well, I do like that they're ending the riots.
I do think that is it.
I think Trump was like, how can we do this without going in?
And they said, we can deputize the state police.
The DHS was like, get it done.
And I'm sure Trump knew.
I'd be willing to bet he did.
It's a brilliant idea.
I'm not saying it was his idea, but I'm sure they were like, look, we can do this.
There may be a legal challenge, but who wants to be the person Right now to sue the Feds on behalf of Antifa.
The Democrats have defended Antifa to an absurd degree, but right now they know it's a vulnerability.
So they can't be seen as being sympathetic and protecting them right now.
ian crossland
The cat wants Bucko.
See, I got Bucko a bowl of water because he keeps drinking my water, but now he wants my water.
unidentified
He doesn't want the bowl.
He wants your bowl.
ian crossland
He's not satisfied.
tim pool
Now he's taking yours, huh?
ian crossland
Oh, you can have it.
tim pool
So anyway, there you go, man.
What did you call it the other day?
Cutting the head off the snake?
Yeah.
ian crossland
Slice it off.
It doesn't always work.
Because sometimes if it's the system that's the problem, cutting the head off, it'll just grow a new head.
lydia smith
Yeah, it looks like it was top-down.
tim pool
Should we talk about how the media is sympathetic to the extremists?
unidentified
Oh my gosh, yes.
tim pool
Oh yeah, check this one out.
From BuzzFeed, these two lawyers face up to life in prison for allegedly burning an empty cop car.
The federal case against the lawyers Colin Mattis and Urooj Raman is a stark example of how the Trump administration is cracking down on Black Lives Matter protesters.
They made several mistakes writing this article.
ian crossland
Oh, tell me.
tim pool
So the first thing they said is, we admit it.
This is Black Lives Matter.
Done.
Every statement of support, every banner at every football field, every knee bent on the field, is now represented by two people who are giving out and throwing Molotov cocktails.
unidentified
Whoa!
tim pool
That was a mistake.
Antifa separated Black Lives Matter from the violence, even though I kept saying we know these people, they're yelling Black Lives Matter.
ian crossland
Right, there's a lot of cross-culture going on.
tim pool
So thank you, BuzzFeed, for giving us the facts that these people who are going out and burning everything down are in fact representatives of the Black Lives Matter movement.
And there it is.
The other mistake they made was that, I think, it was in the tweet, so I wonder if it's included in the article.
Yeah, here we go.
They go on and bring up how these people are immigrants, immigrants, immigrants, immigrants, immigrants.
I got a question, BuzzFeed.
Why does it matter that these extremist arsonists, these people arrested on charges of being, you know, arson and, you know, other, I guess, I don't know what else was charged.
We'll read into it.
But what does their crime have to do with them being immigrants?
lydia smith
You know what this sounds like to me?
tim pool
What does it sound like?
lydia smith
It sounds to me like these countries that these people are from are not sending their best.
tim pool
Oh, no!
ian crossland
BuzzFeed, what have you done?
Oh, this ties into other propaganda.
tim pool
Oh no, BuzzFeed!
BuzzFeed, are you making pro-Trump propaganda to say that the children of immigrants somehow correlate?
ian crossland
BuzzFeed, you don't not like Trump, do you?
tim pool
Listen, listen.
It's an absurd notion, but they're trying to garner sympathy by saying They're immigrants being prosecuted, and instead they're saying firebomb arrests and immigrants, which are completely unrelated.
They're extremists.
It's their political ideology.
It has nothing to do with who their parents are.
I'm sure, in fact, their parents worked very, very hard to get here and are probably very upset with them.
Let's read a little bit of this and see what they have to say because the tweet they put out, it all seems so sympathetic to these poor Black Lives Matter supporters, protesters, who, uh, there's, there's a photo of them in a car holding Molotovs.
unidentified
Oh wow.
tim pool
I mean, it like, it looks like them.
I'll put it that way.
I gotta be very careful because we're dealing with a, you know, innocent until proven guilty and all that stuff.
Here's what BuzzFeed writes.
The NYPD van on a Brooklyn street was banged up and empty, a battered steel shell with shattered windows and a mask of spray paint shortly before 1 a.m.
On Saturday, May 30th, the fourth straight night of nationwide protests against police brutality, a Molotov cocktail set into blaze.
A surveillance camera perched outside the NYPD's 88th precinct down the block captured the incident, including a tan Town & Country minivan at the scene.
Around ten minutes later, officers pulled over a vehicle fitting that description.
Colin Ford Mattis, 32, was at the wheel, and Arooj Rahman, 31, was in the passenger seat.
Officers found a lighter, a tank of gasoline, and a bottle stuffed with toilet paper in the back seat.
Rahman and Mattis were handcuffed and transported into holding cells at the NYPD headquarters.
Two of 23 people arrested in Brooklyn that night for actions connected to the protests against police brutality.
They're facing life in prison, and based on what BuzzFeed just wrote, I kinda think they'll get convicted.
ian crossland
So, for burning an already blown out van, they're gonna get life in prison?
tim pool
Did it say it was already blown out?
ian crossland
Yeah, they said their windows were shattered, it was spray-painted, it was a husk.
tim pool
Oh, sure, sure.
Yeah.
For throwing Molotov cocktails.
ian crossland
It's still state property.
tim pool
It's not about the damage to the vehicle.
It's about people driving around with Molotov cocktails and throwing them.
ian crossland
Really?
That's life in prison?
tim pool
What if it's an act of terrorism?
They're doing it for a political cause.
I don't know, it's an interesting question because I'm not sure I like the idea of motive crimes.
But what if there was somebody in the car?
They wouldn't have known.
ian crossland
No, that's hardcore.
tim pool
It was some other woman, I believe, who threw a Molotov at a car, at a van full of VIPs.
ian crossland
That person should get, maybe, charged with, like, life in prison, I think, for trying to kill a bunch of people.
tim pool
The issue is, like, you're gonna go out with Molotov cocktails, throwing them.
It doesn't matter if you were like, don't worry, I'll do my best not to engulf someone in flames.
ian crossland
You can charge someone and arrest them, charge them with life in prison, or charge them and then, you know, give them life in prison and then let them out, also.
tim pool
Yeah, they could get parole or something.
If they change their ways.
I mean, 45 years or life or whatever they're saying, that's really harsh.
But I wonder if the reason they're doing it is because... setting an example.
ian crossland
Maybe, dude.
Maybe they have to.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Check this out, check this out.
They say the case against Rahman and Mattis took a different track because the incident involved an explosive device, a specialized unit of the NYPD officers and FBI agents called the Joint Terrorism Task Force formed in 1980 to root out threats to national security spearheaded the investigation.
Within hours of the arrest, before Brooklyn prosecutors had even begun writing up charges, FBI agent Kyle Johnson submitted a criminal complaint in federal court, and federal prosecutors informed local authorities that the U.S.
Attorney's Office for the Eastern District of New York was taking over the case.
No one knew it at the time, but this was one of the early moves in a widening federal crackdown against Black Lives Matter protesters across the country.
unidentified
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
tim pool
They just made a very big mistake.
lydia smith
Oh, another one.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
Antifa's out the window.
All of this is now overtly Black Lives Matter.
lydia smith
Interesting.
tim pool
That's it.
It's not Antifa violence.
ian crossland
I've been thinking it's Black Lives Matter the whole time.
I mean, not the whole time, but it's not like they're mostly peaceful.
I mean, they're mostly peaceful, but a lot of these protests... Mostly peaceful.
Yeah.
They've just been blending together in my mind.
I can't tell which is which.
People go out there, they dress in black.
Some people have really good intentions and some people are blowing stuff up, but they're all out there together.
lydia smith
Honestly, if you have good intentions, you're completely overruled by the people who just takes a few to have bad intentions to totally guilt by association when you're in a crowd like that.
tim pool
Dude, these people are getting locked up forever.
Look, I mean, look at this.
They say, when it came to Rahman and Mattis, and the alleged crime of burning an empty and already damaged police vehicle, the US Attorney's Office brought charges so severe, they carry a mandatory minimum sentence of 45 years in prison, and a maximum of life.
A potential punishment, one former federal prosecutor called ridiculous.
Another called out of hand, and a third described as an extreme tactic to send a message to other protesters.
Maybe that's the case.
Sending a message.
I don't know, man.
I'm not a fan of making examples of people, giving individuals harsh penalties so that other people are deterred.
No, the crime is on the individual, and the individual should face Appropriate crime and punishment.
ian crossland
But, like, dude, you could argue that we're at war, right?
I mean, we're at war overseas, 100%, in Iraq, Afghanistan, and this is like a domestic... Like, George Washington would execute... This is stories that I've read, I don't know 100% a lot about it, but if someone would try and, like, throw down their weapon and not fight, he'd have them killed.
He'd execute them.
tim pool
George Washington?
ian crossland
Yeah, commander of a military, if their soldiers start to refuse to fight or do whatever, you have one killed.
To show the other ones, if you do that, you're gonna die.
tim pool
I don't know about that.
That sounds brutal.
ian crossland
Yeah, you have to, otherwise the troops will stop fighting, and then you lose the war, and everyone dies.
tim pool
Yeah, but if you do that, then morale drops to zero.
ian crossland
No, that's a way to spark morale, because morale's dropping, so you gotta whip everyone back into shape.
tim pool
That's not good morale.
ian crossland
Talk about authoritarian.
tim pool
Have you seen the meme, the beatings will continue until morale improves?
ian crossland
That's hilarious.
tim pool
No way, dude.
ian crossland
This is about raising morale.
Raising morale, the populace having faith in the police and the judicial system.
tim pool
This is sending a message for the election.
They want this story from BuzzFeed.
All of these law and order types want everyone to know, you go with Molotovs during a riot, they're gonna lock you up forever.
lydia smith
So, I'm inclined to agree with Ian here, because it's not necessarily about increasing morale for the people, but it's about increasing confidence in the system, and in the Feds, and in the fact that the rule of law will actually come to fruition, unlike in Portland.
tim pool
And showing that the power lies in the government, not you.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
So when it came to the Washington, D.C., the White House protest, where they cleared out all the people in front of the White House, you guys remember that?
Yeah.
And then they were like, Trump did it for a photo shoot.
ian crossland
Trump didn't do it at all, some people said.
lydia smith
What?
ian crossland
They were like, Trump didn't do that?
tim pool
I mean, I just saw the most ridiculous... Hold on.
So the official story is that Trump had nothing to do with the clearing out of the protest.
There were two things that happened.
There was a time frame set on when the protests were going to be cleared out and Bill Barr said he's the one who told him to clear it out.
Trump then did a photo shoot.
Those are the facts.
So the left is making the assumption.
Donald Trump ordered it for his photo shoot.
Hmm, Trump might have had no idea.
ian crossland
Okay.
tim pool
Someone might have been like, oh, you know, the protesters are going to be leaving and then Trump was like, I don't know.
ian crossland
Let's clear him out because the president's going in.
tim pool
Trump's probably watching Fox News and he's sitting there and, you know, he's eating his McDonald's.
I don't mean that in a disrespectful manner.
He literally does this.
And then someone said, Mr. President, your seven o'clock photo shoot in front of the church.
Oh, okay.
And he gets up and walks out.
ian crossland
Regardless, peaceful protesters were like smoke grenaded out to get the president in for a photo shoot.
unidentified
No.
ian crossland
Or they were knocked out with some sort of, weren't they, weren't they got, they were thrown out with some sort of violent dispersal tactic?
tim pool
The police dispersed them.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
But it's an assumption that it was for Trump's photo shoot.
ian crossland
Okay.
Just coincided with his photo shoot.
tim pool
So I don't even want to say that because all we can say is what we know.
The protests got cleared out.
Trump then took a photo shoot in front of a church.
The night, I think it was the night before or the night before that, they had set fire to the famous church.
Was it St.
John's?
St.
lydia smith
John's, yeah.
tim pool
It's a historic presidential church that, you know, right across the street.
They set fire to it, and Trump doing this photo shoot, I believe there's a good possibility it was intentional.
They cleared out the protest so Trump could do this.
I can't prove that, and of course the media will claim they can.
They say Trump did it for this reason, and you don't know what Trump's motive was.
He probably had no idea.
He possibly had no idea.
But I'll tell you what he did.
Taking that photo proved to the country if they wanted to, they could snap their fingers and shut the protest down.
That was the point.
He showed two things.
The church stands.
It was not burned down.
And two, when the protesters are here and we say move, you move.
That's what that photo shoot meant.
lydia smith
So it's more messaging, then.
tim pool
Right.
So, you know, in this regard, lawyers facing very serious charges is a similar thing.
The government is in control, but the rioters will not.
ian crossland
They weren't rioting, though.
Those people were peaceful.
So if you're in a peaceful protest and the government says, we say you move, you move, you don't, what are you supposed to do as a peaceful protester?
tim pool
You move.
ian crossland
Because they have the tanks?
tim pool
And then you file a lawsuit.
ian crossland
Again, and they're the ones that are going to do the lawsuit for you or the ones that perpetrated the crime?
tim pool
No, the police aren't the ones who deal with the lawsuit.
ian crossland
Well, it was federal cops, wasn't it?
tim pool
And the lawsuit is your private lawyer going to a court to challenge the executive authority.
ian crossland
But the court is under the rule of the same people that... No, the courts are an independent branch of the government.
Yeah, hypothetically.
tim pool
I mean, sure, you know, supposed to be Trump, you know, the executive, the executive appoints
judges who then get approved by legislature.
So it's supposed to, you know, there's checks and balances, but that's the way you do it.
If the if anyone branched outside a line, then you you file a claim.
I don't don't ask me how it works.
If the courts you appeal the courts, I guess, you know, that's what you do.
The court issues a ruling say I appeal and then it goes to Supreme Court and stops.
But if the if the if the cops do something wrong, you comply.
If the cops like there's there's one dude who's arguing for the right.
He's an activist in Milwaukee.
He argues for the right to physically attack cops who try to arrest you, calling it defense.
Oh, that's not... Yeah, he said, it was a quote from some site, I'm not familiar with the site, but it was called, like, BostonReview.net, and this guy said, if a cop is violating your rights, you have a right to defend yourself from unjust, unlawful arrest.
Well, who determines whether the arrest is lawful?
Because nobody wants to get arrested and nobody thinks they're being legally arrested.
They always yell things like, I have not been read my rights, therefore the arrest is illegal!
And then what, you're gonna swing at a cop?
They don't have to read you your rights, dude.
So I think it's about messaging, I do.
Well, let's jump into the second lead of the story.
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ian crossland
Oh, I'm excited.
32 million viewers incoming.
tim pool
I would say tweet hashtag JoeMustShow.
Joe Biden must join the debate with Donald Trump, moderated by Joe Rogan.
That's the hashtag.
Joe must show.
ian crossland
Crush that like button because if we get to 40,000 views, I'm putting a beanie on.
unidentified
Oh, a beanie.
ian crossland
Just a regular beanie.
I know you want it.
Everybody's like, what?
tim pool
Let's take it to the next level.
We got an Antifa, we got all these Antifa stories going on right now.
Check this out.
Milwaukee man mobbed by Black Lives Matter activists arrested for trying to defend his home.
Now this is the narrative that went out among many conservative, right-leaning, and anti-SJW type reporters.
These Black Lives Matter activists show up in front of this guy's house, they're screaming, they literally have a banner that says Black Lives Matter, they got the big Black Lives Matter fist, and then this guy in his window shows what looks like a shotgun of some sort, and then he, I guess he pumps it, and then he like aims out the window.
At some point after that, cops show up and arrest him, and all of these people start cheering.
We now have an official statement from the police, and we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna break all this down.
Milwaukee police tweeted, suspect arrested for pointing and aiming a long gun at protesters.
They go on to say, on Monday, September 14th, and this is really weird, they include this weird context that's irrelevant to the crime in question.
On Monday, September 14th, 2020, at approximately 4.25pm, Milwaukee police responded to a residence located at the 3400 block of North 80th Street regarding a trouble with subject call for service.
The suspect threatened to physically harm the victim, who is his neighbor, while wielding a chainsaw, causing the victim to fear for their safety.
The suspect, a 56-year-old man from Milwaukee, was arrested for disorderly conduct while armed.
Okay, I'm not sure what that has to do with the crime in question now, and why they're saying that.
Why are they bringing that up?
ian crossland
Are they saying that the guy who held the long gun is the guy who threatened the dude with the chainsaw?
tim pool
I think that's where we're going.
lydia smith
It's unclear though, yeah.
tim pool
On Tuesday, September 15th at approximately 5.21 p.m., officers were dispatched to a demonstration at the same location where several individuals protested outside the suspect's residence.
At approximately 8.30pm, the officers who were monitoring the protest were notified by a witness that the suspect was inside his residence, by a window, and that the suspect motioned the long gun as if he chambered around and then pointed the gun at the crowd.
The video of the incident was subsequently.
I'm sorry, subsequently broadcasted on several social media outlets.
Officers made contact with the suspect and observed that he appeared to be intoxicated.
He was subsequently arrested for endangering safety by use of a dangerous weapon while under the influence of an intoxicant, disorderly conduct while armed, and bail-jumping.
The bail-jumping one I don't get.
Criminal charges will be referred to the Milwaukee County District Attorney's Office in the upcoming days.
The Milwaukee Police Department continues to support the rights of those who choose to peacefully protest.
So what do you think?
I know a lot more about this, but I want to get your guys' impression before I tell you more secrets.
What do you think?
lydia smith
So I think that this guy had every right to take action against people who were mobbing him.
I think the police were ridiculously cowardly to just walk up and be like, I see our problem, we're gonna arrest you, and then the crowd will disperse.
And the fact that the crowd cheered the police, there's literally F12 on the back of one of the people in that picture, and she's then cheering for the police.
That is ideologically inconsistent with what she's supposed to be out there rioting for.
tim pool
Yeah, these people who claim to hate the police, want to defund the police, called the police and then cheered when the police did what they wanted.
ian crossland
Oh my gosh, what's F12?
tim pool
It means F the police.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Yep.
ian crossland
For no reason.
Unrelated.
My thoughts are the first paragraph where they said the dude I chainsaw and was threatening his neighbor
Makes it look like they're trying to make the guy look bad, right?
Yep, for no reason unrelated just to like be like, okay, you're not gonna hate this press release
Maybe you'll have sympathy for us. Yeah, and then I wonder if it's a stand your ground state
tim pool
It is, yeah.
No, no, no.
It's a castle doctrine state.
ian crossland
Meaning if someone's on your property, are you allowed to shoot them?
tim pool
No.
If they're trying to break in.
ian crossland
Okay, so they weren't trying to break in.
They were outside on his property yelling at him.
tim pool
And shining lights and playing loud music.
ian crossland
Shining lights.
So they were... Is that assault?
Shining lights on someone?
tim pool
Harassment, maybe.
ian crossland
So they're harassing the guy and he responded with excessive force, maybe.
tim pool
Brandishing a weapon and pointing it at him.
ian crossland
And he was drunk while he did it, which is another form of crime.
tim pool
They said he appeared to be.
ian crossland
Or he was intoxicated.
tim pool
No, no, no.
They said he appeared to be.
And from the first part of this press release, it sounds... I'll tell you what I think.
I don't know if this guy was drunk.
I don't know if he chased somebody with a chainsaw.
None of that's on video.
It sounds like the police saw a mob of people and said, oh no, what do we do?
And then the other cop is like, there's no way we can deal with this mob.
Well, what if we arrest the guy in his house?
Yeah.
Arrest the guy in the house to appease the mob.
ian crossland
We were just talking about this.
tim pool
Yeah, I talk about it a lot.
ian crossland
This is, uh... Well, if that's the case, that's bad policing.
That's beyond bad policing.
So their job is to keep the peace.
That's like their main gig.
That's the cop's main thing.
tim pool
And that means, when the mob comes to your house, you will get arrested, not the criminals.
ian crossland
That's so weird.
tim pool
Now here's the best part.
One of the main guys who was live streaming this, one of the most prominent activists, has been, according to some reports, organizing parties at alleged racists' homes.
They're going to people's houses and they're staging protests.
This is the guy I was talking about earlier who believes he has a right, at least according to one outlet, he has a right to defend himself against police physically if they're unlawfully arresting him.
Same guy, same activist.
Now, he was at another major event where some young girls, like I think they were 13 and 15, went missing.
And locals in the community started looking for them.
They went to this block where the police had canvassed and found, and the cops found nothing.
The cops said it's not a critical missing persons case because it's only been four hours.
It's not even been a day.
So are they really missing?
The activists got angry.
This guy showed up to a house where someone claimed to have seen the girls.
There were about a dozen people already there and this guy was there as well.
The mob started protesting in front of the house and then it quickly devolved into chaos.
According to one story, two 14-year-olds got shot.
Gunshots rang out.
Police came in, and someone set fire to the home.
The firefighters put the fire out and left.
Someone set fire again, apparently the firefighters had to come back and put the fire out again.
The home was like... like almost... not burned to the ground, but severely damaged.
Turns out the girls weren't missing.
At all.
They were just hanging out at a friend's house.
So a mob of crazy people showed up to a house, fired guns, shooting two people, and almost burning down a home, igniting it twice.
For what?
Some fringe accusation.
Well, that same guy, one of the most prominent activists in the community, shows up to this dude's house.
He probably knows this, he lives in Milwaukee.
It was a national story when this house got set ablaze.
So what do you do?
You're in your home, these same activists show up, the same chants, you had heard about the gunshots the last time it happened, people getting shot, and now they're in front of your house screaming at you.
What do you do?
ian crossland
I would have called the cops if I was the guy inside.
tim pool
The cops were apparently there monitoring it.
ian crossland
I still would have called the cops and then maybe grabbed the gun, but if he was too high to think that straight, who knows?
tim pool
Why would you assume he's high?
Because the cops said so?
ian crossland
Yeah, a bad assumption maybe.
But I would have called the cops first.
If there's a mob assembling outside, first thing I would do is notify the police so I'm on their side.
tim pool
The cops are going to say it's a peaceful protest and they have a First Amendment right to do so.
ian crossland
It's a semi-peaceful, it's a mostly peaceful protest.
They're harassing me through my window.
And are they allowed to assemble on my property?
tim pool
Yes.
They weren't on his property.
They were on the street.
ian crossland
Oh, well, if they're shining lights on his property, then they're on his property.
tim pool
That's a good point.
They were shining lights through his windows and blasting music at him and screaming and bullhorning at him.
ian crossland
Yeah, then they're infringing on his property.
lydia smith
I would say so.
tim pool
So, it's an interesting dilemma, because maybe he was trying to deter the people by brandishing the weapon.
ian crossland
Definitely.
lydia smith
Absolutely.
tim pool
But, I mean, maybe he crossed the line.
I don't know.
What do you think?
ian crossland
I don't like vigilante mob justice.
I think that, how do you police that stuff?
I mean, I'm asking.
tim pool
You send in the riot control police, and they push them out.
To what, tear gas, batons?
ian crossland
Military, like, heavy.
It's the only way, pretty much, right?
tim pool
We were talking earlier about how the First Amendment, that was the first article that was to become the Bill of Rights, talked about how 50,000 people would get one representative in Congress.
The Founding Fathers did not predict that we would have 750,000 people for every one congressperson.
They thought it was going to be 50,000.
Population growth is massive.
So it's really easy to put together laws based on small population and constitutional rights.
And I've talked about how civil disobedience is the line where I think we as a society are comfortable, meaning like you block a road, right?
You inconvenience people, nobody gets hurt, you get arrested very quickly, you get a slap on the wrist, go home.
But what happens when you have millions of people?
Nonviolent civil disobedience can destroy the country.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
And so we're entering a point where the security of the nation is threatened because there's too many people.
So if you had, you know, a small town back in the day, and a tiny percentage showed up to protest some guy's house, it'd be like 10 people.
You get a couple sheriffs and deputies to come out and say, everybody go home, you're disturbing the peace.
Well, now you can very easily muster hundreds of people, and there's only going to be a small handful of cops available to actually deal with it.
lydia smith
Yeah, especially with social media.
I hope you don't mind if I jump in, but I was thinking about this.
I think this press release that the police gave out was designed to keep more rioting from happening.
I think them trying to portray this solo citizen as a bad guy who had been threatening, like, his neighbor with a chainsaw and then who was clearly intoxicated.
Like, how dare he drink at home on an evening and not be prepared for an entire riot of people to show up.
That's a good point.
Like, how do you prepare for that?
If you have a gun, you're armed, and you're ready to defend yourself, great.
You are also allowed to drink a beer on a Saturday night.
I mean, it just looks like the police are out to get him from the get-go.
ian crossland
I think we should modify the law so that if you shine lights into people's houses, you're on their property.
lydia smith
I would say so, yeah.
tim pool
That might be the case.
Like you're you're you're yeah, you're that's a that's a really, really, a really good point.
No, if you're if you're sitting at home, wait, Lydia's points is excellent.
If you're sitting at home and you're watching, let's say you're watching,
I don't know, family guy, Ketty Shack, and you're just like, you're just loving the Bill Murray, the goat groundhog.
It's so crazy!
And you're like, I gotta crack a beer open.
You crack a beer and you're drinking.
And then all of a sudden, a violent mob starts screaming at your house.
And you're like, oh man, what do I do?
So you grab your gun to protect yourself.
And they go, ah, you're drunk!
You're under arrest.
ian crossland
That's not good.
tim pool
You can't defend your home if you were drinking and hanging out on a Saturday night?
ian crossland
Well, they said intoxicated.
If he was high on coke, you know, there's another... But they haven't said that.
tim pool
He appeared to be.
ian crossland
What if you still have to be able to defend yourself?
I don't care what state you're in.
lydia smith
Exactly.
tim pool
So what happens if... Let's push it a little bit further.
What happens if you're in your house?
And maybe the chat actually knows this.
Let's see.
Someone mentioned there are nuisance laws.
Yeah.
But let's say you're in your house and you're watching, you know, Starship Troopers 3 because they made direct-to-DV versions of it.
You're a huge Starship Troopers fan.
unidentified
I am.
tim pool
You're like, dude, I love this guy.
You know, the original actor Stan.
ian crossland
Michael Ironsides.
Wasn't he the... I don't know.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
But imagine you're watching it and you're slamming down some, you know, some like Natty Light because you're just like... You're old school.
Old school, low quality.
ian crossland
I'm Chicago.
unidentified
Born and bred.
lydia smith
Yeah, man.
tim pool
And you're drunk.
And then, the most gigantic, super-ripped, well-known serial murderer kicks in your door.
unidentified
And he's like, I am the great serial murderer, come to kill you!
tim pool
And then you're like, ah, and you grab your gun.
Oh.
Okay, I'm exaggerating.
I'm sure at that point you're going to be okay.
lydia smith
Yeah, I would think so.
tim pool
But what if you have a crazy guy who's very threatening and saying like, you're next.
Where do we draw the line on when you're allowed to defend yourself if you happen to have been at home just having a beer mind your own business?
ian crossland
If they're infringing on your property, ultimately.
So the lights and the noise is like, that's hitting me in the ears.
So you're here with me.
I don't care where you're standing at that point.
tim pool
It can be physically damaging if it's loud enough.
ian crossland
Yeah, or blinding if it's bright enough.
That's why they're doing it.
lydia smith
Yeah, absolutely.
And I would be curious about that.
And so far, the chat hasn't given me anything, but I think that is considered a form of assault if it's likely to hurt your ears or your eyes enough.
Although I do know that under the Geneva Convention, that is not considered like maiming or just, you know, disfigurement, but it's a huge problem and it is like a lifelong issue.
tim pool
Laying siege to someone's home.
ian crossland
Yeah, they were doing that in Cuba with sound.
Did you hear those sound weapons they were using?
lydia smith
Yeah, I remember that.
tim pool
Well, I don't know if that was... I think those are microwave weapons.
Whoa!
Like melting people's brains with microwaves.
unidentified
Jeez!
ian crossland
Vibration, like really high frequency.
tim pool
Yeah, that story was crazy.
That was like people would hear a noise.
And then all of a sudden they would get these mental ailments, like symptoms, with like loss of vision and headaches and light sensitivity.
They had to wear special glasses because they couldn't see the light anymore.
That's scary stuff, dude.
You start hearing a weird noise, and then all of a sudden you get permanent brain damage.
ian crossland
And then it'll pass through walls if it's microwaves.
tim pool
It's a horror show.
With enough power, you go through stone rocks.
It's funny how I love spy movies, you know, action movies.
It's like everybody has a gun with a silencer that goes pew pew pew.
Silencers don't do that.
But even beyond that, why wouldn't they just have a thing where they put up against the wall and then stick it to the wall and then crank it, and then everyone inside just gets their brains melted by microwaves?
ian crossland
I think that's coming.
tim pool
Yeah, I think it's here.
ian crossland
They'll do it from orbit.
tim pool
From orbit?
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
Wouldn't it, like, that cause way more... the waves are gonna not be direct, like... I think you can direct waves.
Well, I guess infrared laser.
ian crossland
Dude, I've been thinking a lot about modern war and why we never want to experience it because we don't know what kind of weapons are coming from orbit.
tim pool
Dude, have you seen... we've talked about laser-induced plasma channels.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So the way it works, and I am not an electrical engineer or laser engineer or whatever.
ian crossland
But he will be soon.
tim pool
Is that, I have an extremely high-powered infrared laser that flicks on and off real fast, ionizing the air, at the same time supercharges this massive electrode, so then the electricity travels down the superheated path of least resistance, so effectively, they can point the weapon at you and fire and strike you with lightning.
ian crossland
And a friend of ours, Jeremy Riss, who's alien scientist on YouTube, you can check out his channel.
He knows people to help us make one.
No, he's got his team.
tim pool
Have you seen the videos of the destroyers with the crazy laser turrets?
It's got like three lenses and it aims and it just locks on and it just holds an infrared laser and the thing just bursts into flames and crashes.
ian crossland
Yeah, I think China was testing one and said, we tagged you one of your jets to the US government.
tim pool
No, that was laser targeting.
ian crossland
Oh, so they were just letting us know they could target the jet.
I've heard of what you're talking about.
tim pool
There's a video, you can watch it on YouTube.
ian crossland
Oh, and they just take it out of the sky?
Turn it on, turn it off?
tim pool
Did you hear about the UFO over the West Coast or whatever?
ian crossland
Um, I think, no, I just caught reports.
What happened?
tim pool
Yeah, reports of a weird triangular-shaped flying...
ian crossland
No, I don't know.
I think that's how they're doing it.
with the magnetic? No, I don't know. I think that's how they're doing it.
tim pool
There's a bunch of really clear pictures of it. And they were saying, yeah, how did we go from
like police brutality and riots to aliens? Just like sound weapons. Sound waves, yeah.
You were just like, I've been wanting to go there my whole life, man.
lydia smith
He's been waiting this whole time.
tim pool
Yeah, there's a crazy video.
There's a crazy video.
Maybe we'll pull it up tomorrow and we can talk more about that stuff.
Get to the bottom of it.
But we got more Antifa stuff.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
$2 billion in damage.
Look at this.
George Floyd riots caused record-setting $2 billion in damage.
New report says, here's why the true cost is even higher.
Why is the true cost even higher?
Freedom Foundation for Economic Education.
Yes, do tell us.
lydia smith
Oh, they're very cool.
I like them.
tim pool
When they say dozens of people were killed or injured, let's get to the point.
They say, the U.S.
has experienced rioting over racial tensions before, but this report shows the damage from the latest unrest will far exceed any historical precedent.
The arson, vandalism, and looting will result in at least $1 billion to $2 billion of paid insurance claims, Axios reports.
This will eclipse the record set in the LA 1992 riots after the acquittal of police officers who brutalized Rodney King.
However, there are many reasons.
This figure vastly underestimates the true damage wrought by the looting and violence that has broken out in recent months.
For one, the Axios report only measures insured losses.
The obvious problem here is that not all the damages were insured.
There was a story I was reading where apparently a bunch of these businesses, their haul-away claims, which means like for when the debris and rubble, is capped at $25,000.
Oh.
Whereas the actual cost was $150,000.
Whoa.
For many of these businesses.
When they destroyed the entire building, the insurance didn't cover the cost of removal of debris.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
So they just did nothing, and they walked away from it.
So the costs are way higher than $2 billion.
They're going to say, as I previously explained, insurance is no panacea for the societal ills imposed by rioting.
Indeed, 75% of U.S.
businesses are underinsured, and about 40% of small businesses have no insurance at all.
Their untold millions in losses don't show up in the $2 billion figure.
So too, insurance doesn't account for the personal pain and suffering caused by riding.
For example, what about the more than 15 people who died during the unrest?
It's actually more than that, but some of the deaths were like peripheral or considered to be accidental.
Their lives.
And their family's pain don't get counted in any insurance company's budgetary analysis.
Nor does the pain of those such as elderly businessman punched in the face while his store was ransacked in Kenosha, Wisconsin manifest itself in total reports of an uninsurance compensation.
You know what I'm gonna say?
You know what they don't account for?
That Trump over there.
You can buy another stand-up Trump, right?
ian crossland
Yeah, should be able to.
tim pool
What about the painting next to it my mom made?
ian crossland
No.
tim pool
Insurance can't cover that.
unidentified
Absolutely not.
ian crossland
No, take a picture of it.
tim pool
So what happens when your business, you've got a painting that a family member made for you, maybe a family member who died, and they burned it down.
Insurance can't pay for that.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
That's well beyond monetary costs, man.
ian crossland
Psychological value is, you can't put a money, a dollar on that.
lydia smith
This is something I was thinking about, because when you burn someone's small business, you are As close to literally, in the correct sense, as possible, burning the American dream.
Because if they started from the ground up, and they've been working on it for 35 years, and they've handed it down through their family, and they've taught all their kids to work there, that's gone.
And you cannot buy that back.
There's nothing that will replace that.
I mean, that's more than billions of dollars.
ian crossland
And you're just talking about repairing the actual structure, not about how long it will take, all the lost revenue that your business isn't open, and the people that you'll lose that have to go get other jobs.
tim pool
Yep.
Regular customers who don't shop with you anymore.
ian crossland
I would love to know how much, how many of these things weren't, how many businesses that were destroyed were not insured or were underinsured.
tim pool
Most of them.
ian crossland
And you're saying a sixth?
So of the $150,000, they only cover $25,000.
tim pool
That was a story from the Minneapolis Star Tribune, I think it is.
They said that many of these businesses are capped out at $25K.
ian crossland
$2 billion.
tim pool
Doesn't even account for the true cost of all the damage.
ian crossland
Man.
tim pool
Well, that's the far left.
So this damage, you know, to go back to that sedition stuff with Bill Barr, I think it's interesting because what if these people, what if they're pro-China?
Some of them are.
ian crossland
Man, now you're speaking my language.
I think my conspiracy is that the CCP is trying to sow dissent in the United States, and this is how they're doing it.
It's a perfect opportunity.
Did you guys look at that Tucker Carlson interview about that girl, that Chinese whistleblower?
I didn't see it, but apparently she said that it was made in the lab and it was as a weapon.
tim pool
Yeah, but she also worked at the University of Hong Kong.
ian crossland
Okay, so that could be bunk, but not out of question for government to tamper with a foreign country.
tim pool
So the point I brought up on that story, for those unfamiliar, Tucker Carlson had on a whistleblower from a university in Hong Kong saying the Chinese Communist Party manufactured and intentionally released COVID. My thought
on that is there's a potential for bias because she was working, you know, in Hong Kong. So Hong
Kong is being repressed and suppressed by the Chinese Communist Party. But I will say, why do we
trust one expert over another if they have the same credentials? Why is it that if one expert comes
out and says it's not man-made, we say, you got it done.
Story's over.
But when she comes out, everyone says, fake news, ignore it.
lydia smith
They suspended her on Twitter.
tim pool
Yeah, she got suspended on Twitter.
And on Instagram, Tucker Carlson's post was flagged as fake news.
Here's the best part.
When it says, see why this is fake, it doesn't actually talk about the whistleblower.
It references months old stories about COVID.
So we have a new story.
We have an actual researcher who is working at a university in Hong Kong saying they know this and they published a paper on it.
And now they're taking old stories that don't actually reference anything having to do with her and using it to prove Tucker's story is false.
ian crossland
Well, okay.
So that's crazy.
That's a little over-managed, I think.
So free software.
I'll say it again, free software.
Let's have like a government free software social network that, you know, is run by the people.
But okay, so COVID aside, maybe that they're tampering and funding this chaos.
tim pool
Or, you know, in some capacity trying to make everything Yeah, it's perfect timing.
I mean, they hate Trump.
They want to make Trump look bad.
Maybe, I don't know, this kind of helps Trump in some ways, but the economic damage is bad for this country.
ian crossland
It's devastating.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
And psychological damage.
People are like, the suicide rate, I don't know what it is, but I've heard that it's gone up, like, like, sadly.
lydia smith
Yeah.
ian crossland
I'm so blessed that we've been able to all live kind of together in a house.
lydia smith
Keep our sanity.
ian crossland
The socialization is What if I was living alone in an apartment in like New York?
How horrible the last six months would have been.
tim pool
You'd be insane.
ian crossland
I would have gone nuts!
I'd have been making the most gross internet videos is what I would have been doing.
People would be like, shut up!
lydia smith
It's so negative!
tim pool
You'd be probably going out screaming in the streets.
ian crossland
You're broke.
tim pool
You're about to be evicted.
You're angry.
Who do you blame?
The government.
ian crossland
I would have blamed that.
I would have become radicalized in my beliefs, because I already believe that there's a power structure out there that's pulling the strings on this system.
I'm very red-pilled, by the way, and I try and play it off like I'm not, because we need to keep things stable.
lydia smith
Yeah, we try.
ian crossland
And I would have lost it, I think.
And there's so many people in that position right now.
tim pool
Well, it is true that there was an intelligence report saying that China and Russia are both interfering.
And the official statement was that Russia prefers China.
I'm sorry, Russia prefers Trump, but China prefers Biden.
So pick your poison.
I don't think Russia is as bad as they claim.
ian crossland
No, I'm going after the Democratic Republic of Russia.
Is that what it's called?
tim pool
What I mean is, Russia is a bad place for a lot of reasons.
But in terms of being a threat to the United States, it's not nearly as bad as they're trying to claim it is.
ian crossland
No, it's not communist anymore.
tim pool
It's not even about that.
It's about, are they a threat to the U.S.?
China is a substantial threat to the U.S.
and their cyber security, their attacks, and, you know.
We actually have confrontation with them.
We have some confrontation with Russia, but I think China's the bigger threat.
ian crossland
Yeah, dude, the Communist Party of China?
One party system has control of their entire government?
That's so weird.
tim pool
Yep, the party.
Yeah, so no, not a fan.
And if I had to make a choice, I'd say I want the guy who's opposed to China because China's the real threat.
And I've been covering a lot of stories pertaining to China and the things they've been doing for a long time.
Russia wants to set up a trade federation in Eastern Europe.
Ooh, their trade federation.
ian crossland
Putin, you know, the whole being in office for 20 years thing, it's constitutionally legal in Russia, as far as I can tell from what I've learned.
And he is a hardcore dude.
He's this ex-KGB stone-cold killer machine, he looks like, you know, when you look at the guy.
Rides a bear in some memes.
tim pool
In some memes, yes.
ian crossland
I don't think that he wants to be the controller of Russia.
I think he's just terrified to let it go and see it devolve back into communism.
tim pool
That's all power corruption.
It's better if I'm in charge.
You'll see all of these despots in North Africa and the Middle East who are like, if I go, you'll see how bad it gets.
ian crossland
Yeah, I think that's his mindset right now.
tim pool
And then to be honest, Libya did get really bad.
ian crossland
I would like to see a peaceful transfer of power in Russia.
I feel like he's waiting for a great leader in the United States to emerge so that he can breathe easy and let go and make sure stuff doesn't... I don't know.
tim pool
People want power.
I don't want to give it up.
lydia smith
That's true, yeah.
tim pool
But you know what?
I can talk about another peaceful transfer of power.
unidentified
Please do.
tim pool
Transfer of power from Republican to Democrat as people switch parties.
ian crossland
It's coming.
tim pool
We got another segment.
lydia smith
Oh, they're switching parties!
tim pool
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Then you must.
ian crossland
I got a, uh, I got a request for you.
Hit it.
tim pool
Spin the UFO.
unidentified
Let's do it.
tim pool
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We got one more segment.
We're talking about this, uh, this sheriff who has quit the Democratic Party.
Sheriff.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
Sheriff?
lydia smith
Sheriff.
ian crossland
Sharif?
tim pool
Sharif.
ian crossland
I think that guy's name was Sharif yesterday.
lydia smith
Yeah, it was, but we pronounced it Sharif.
ian crossland
Sharif is his middle name, but yeah, you said Sheriff.
People were like, Sheriff, Sheriff, for the whole time, the whole show.
I read the chat again yesterday.
unidentified
I got a little crazy.
tim pool
Don't read the comments.
unidentified
I know, I know.
I'm just learning.
tim pool
Okay, anyway, smash the like button.
ian crossland
Gently, peacefully protest that like button.
tim pool
That's right.
And get in your super chats if you would like to have us, because we're going to do one more segment, and then we're going to read your comments.
But check out this story from the Epoch Times.
lydia smith
Ooh, let's do it.
tim pool
Now, of course, I always make sure I bring this up, that NewsGuard says Epoch Times fails, but they do not repeatedly publish false content.
They just don't like that they don't correct their errors.
Well, that's an issue.
But we still have this story, and I think it's important to bring up, because I've got a couple other stories for you as well.
They report, Pennsylvania Sheriff flips from Democrat Party to Republican Party.
It was really a difficult decision, and I've thought long and hard about it.
But I feel I stand for the ideals of the Republican Party platform more than the Democrats today, Westmoreland County Sheriff James Albert told the Tribune Review.
Albert, 70, became sheriff last year.
He said he is against abortion for the Second Amendment and a lifelong member of the National Rifle Association.
Today, I feel my ideals are closer to the Republican Party than Democrats.
The reaction to looting and rioting across the country in the wake of the death of George Floyd helped lead to the party change.
He says, I was saddened and enraged by the murders of David Dorn, a 77-year-old African-American retired police captain, who was shot by a pawn shop looter during a protest in St.
Louis.
These outrageous, lawless acts have been met with silence, acquiescence, and in some instances, outright support from the local, state, and national leadership of the Democratic Party.
The Pennsylvania Democratic Party did not respond to a request for comment.
You know, I see this.
I completely agree.
That's exactly what I've seen.
I mean, you guys have seen similar, right?
Okay.
Well, take a look at this.
From the Washington Post.
I can't believe you're forcing me to vote for Trump, which I definitely didn't want to do.
lydia smith
Yeah, I can hear it in the headline.
tim pool
Yes, I can hear the sarcasm from Alexandra Petri who writes, Believe me when I tell you, the last thing I could possibly
want would be to vote for Donald Trump.
That's why I'm so stunned that you have taken it upon yourself to go to such lengths to force me to vote for him,
you sick, sick monster.
I don't even like him.
Not even one little bit.
So I hope you're happy with what YOU are making me do.
Which comes to me as a total surprise and is definitely not a foregone conclusion in any way.
I'm not gonna read this trash.
This article is the perfect example of what is wrong with the media, the left, and the Democrats, and why they are losing voters.
Now, I don't know who's gonna win in November.
Maybe they'll cheat.
And by they, I mean, I have no idea.
Maybe they'll both cheat.
Whatever.
The left thinks the right's gonna cheat.
The right thinks the left's gonna cheat.
But I'll tell you this, man.
I watched people riot.
I did not like it.
Joe Biden's staff bailed these people out.
Kamala Harris solicited money to bail these people out.
I did not like it.
Kamala Harris called for more.
A bunch of other federal-level Democrats supported it, and they tried to use it to their advantage.
And I'm angry about that.
In the primaries for the Democratic Party, I supported Andrew Yang and Tulsi Gabbard.
ian crossland
Me too, man.
tim pool
I did not want to vote for Donald Trump.
The only problem is the Democrats are lunatics and they chose Joe Biden.
You did make me do this.
You have given me no choice.
It is the choice between a flashlight with dying batteries or a human being with a flashlight.
ian crossland
I'll even go a step further.
You swung Hillary Clinton at me and then followed it up with a Biden left hook.
So I am no more... Actually, Obama bought... How many drone bombs did he buy?
launch between Obama, you know, Mr. Obama between 2012 and 2016.
I don't know.
It was like, yeah, that was my morale.
Those in those in those.
lydia smith
For sure.
tim pool
Well, but but but look and Trump didn't didn't make it very many changes in that regard.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
I've heard that actually.
And that's why early on I was like, don't care.
You know, he wants to hire John Bolton.
He wants to fire missiles.
He wants a drone strike.
I don't care.
I'll take me a Tulsi Gabbard.
ian crossland
So forget the Obama thing, but the Hillary Clinton subverting Bernie Sanders thing that came out in WikiLeaks, and then the trying to shove Biden down my throat.
I'm not a party politician, but that is disgusting.
I thought Bernie Sanders had some great things to say.
He sold out.
He did sell out.
He capitulated.
He bent the knee to the power structure, which I thought he would never do.
And that was also devastating.
tim pool
That's the most amazing thing about Bernie is that I remember it was like early 2016.
I was in New York with a friend and I was literally ranting like in excitement about how Bernie Sanders has been consistent and we finally have a politician who's been saying the same things, still saying the same things and refusing to back down.
And like Bernie said, good things.
Notably, like when it comes to the Second Amendment, he said, it's an urban versus rural issue.
And I was like, wow.
lydia smith
I like that.
tim pool
He's actually talking about how you have different perspectives, and that's long been a challenge.
I can't believe the guy I said did not change.
ian crossland
Give him 10 seconds in that room with Hillary Clinton, and he went, Yeah, when they pulled the trigger basically, but when Hillary Clinton's campaign finally said, no Bernie, it's Hillary or whatever, he had like a week to run independent.
And I thought he was going to do it.
I was like, just run independent, man.
Run independent.
Someone's got to be telling him to do it.
He would have won.
tim pool
Dude, dude, dude.
You know what happened?
There's a video.
I love this conspiracy theory.
At the Democratic National Convention in 2016, Bernie Sanders has a laceration on his face.
Have you seen that?
lydia smith
Negative.
tim pool
There's a laceration on his face.
And I think he said something like he bumped into a door or something, which is possible.
He's an old man.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
But a bunch of people were like, no way, dude.
And they were pushing this conspiracy theory that, like, the DNC brought him into a room and then, like, some guy, like, puts on a glove and he's like, yo, Bernie, listen up.
You're gonna bow out and give it to Hillary or else.
And Bernie's like, I'll never back down.
unidentified
Boom.
tim pool
And he gets smacked in the face.
ian crossland
I don't think it happened because he wouldn't have run a second time if they did that.
He ran again.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Because the conspiracy theory is that they smacked him in the face and then he was like, OK, I yield.
I'll do whatever you say!
I'll say whatever you want!
ian crossland
But I don't think he would have run against this cycle if that had happened to him then.
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
He was doing what they wanted.
ian crossland
Dude, but the bird landed on his podium.
lydia smith
Yeah, I remember that.
tim pool
Yeah, when the bird landed on his podium.
ian crossland
That was amazing!
That was like some Gandhi stuff.
lydia smith
It was meant to be.
tim pool
So a lot of people push that conspiracy that he got punched in the face.
And I think that's ridiculous.
lydia smith
Yeah, he just ran into a door.
tim pool
No, I think he's an old bumbling man and he probably bumped into something.
lydia smith
And that's always the excuse.
tim pool
Because I'll tell you what really happened.
The DNC goons brought him in and they were like, all right Bernie, listen up, you're gonna bow out for
Hillary Clinton and we're gonna do a great book deal, you're gonna make a
million dollars.
unidentified
And then Bernie goes, a million dollars? I want to be a millionaire.
lydia smith
Carrot and stick.
tim pool
Yes.
lydia smith
I love it.
tim pool
Carrot and stick. Well, no, there was no stick. It was quite literally,
hey Bernie, how about we make you a millionaire and you do a book and good for you.
You buy another house.
What does he have, like four houses?
Does he have four?
lydia smith
I thought he had three.
tim pool
Three houses?
lydia smith
He's a rich dude.
ian crossland
He's like, you want to be a millionaire?
Write a book.
tim pool
That's what he said, right?
And then he stopped saying, you say millionaires and billionaires and now he just says billionaires.
ian crossland
It's a good thing.
That's smart too because millionaires aren't the problem.
There's a lot more millionaires than there were 20 years ago.
tim pool
Millionaires are the problem.
ian crossland
because of inflation.
I think it's the really, really high level people that are making money off of interest that are the problem.
tim pool
And somebody with $900 million is it?
ian crossland
Well, they're almost a billionaire.
Yeah.
tim pool
So, so that, that.
500 million.
ian crossland
Well, that, that.
400 million.
tim pool
That's what you're doing with the money at that point.
ian crossland
100 million.
It's not just the money amount that's the problem.
It's what you're doing with it.
And there's a, greed is a problem.
tim pool
And that's why I think it is the millionaires and the billionaires.
That's why whenever people are like, George Soros is funding all these things,
and I'm like, dude, don't send me a message about this.
Unless you want to send me a message literally every single other millionaire and billionaire
who's doing this exact same thing.
ian crossland
Maybe it's just greedy people that are the problem.
tim pool
No, I think it's people get rich and they're idealistic and they make donations.
ian crossland
Dude, when you have a lot of money, it's tough to not fall into that, because it's so easy to just live off your money.
tim pool
It's not about that.
It's like, if how much the average person, if they make like, you know, I think what's like, what's the median salary for the US?
Like 38k or something?
lydia smith
I thought it was a little more than that, like 70 or something.
tim pool
No, it's like 48 maybe.
But how much can you really donate to a politician?
unidentified
Barely.
ian crossland
You're gonna be...
unidentified
Not $2,800?
tim pool
Barely.
Not $2,800.
So you get somebody who's worth $10 million and they can be like, I'm gonna give $2,800
to all of my favorite politicians right now.
And that's way more than the average person could possibly do.
Not only that, you get someone worth $50 million and they're like, I'm gonna give $5 million to a super PAC to promote my candidate.
ian crossland
I have mixed feelings about funding politicians.
I don't know how you guys feel about this, but I think it was Glass—repealing Glass-Steagall that a lot of people— No, no.
Glass-Steagall was banking regulations for investment versus savings and It comes from like back in the day when people would want to run around, take trains around the country and like campaign, and they wanted to fund their own campaign.
And so they would pay all the bill, and it was illegal back in the day.
You couldn't spend more than like a certain amount.
They're like, how come because I have all this money, I can't use it?
That makes no sense.
So they changed the law.
And then all of a sudden, you could fund your own campaign.
And now it's just so out of control.
tim pool
Well, now there was the Citizens United ruling like a decade ago.
ian crossland
Yeah, that's what I was thinking about.
tim pool
And so basically what happens is you get someone like Michael Bloomberg, who's a multi-billionaire, like ridiculous billions of dollars, and he's like, I'm gonna take a hundred million dollars of my assets and liquefy them and give them to Super PACs to put out all this anti-Trump messaging.
And I hate it!
ian crossland
Yep.
I will put billboards everywhere you look.
Turn left, I'll have one there.
tim pool
Now, that sweet, sweet Bloomberg Green was raining down on top of me back when he was doing that ad campaign.
ian crossland
And right now with... That's where it comes out.
tim pool
It's a... Because they go on Google and they buy ads.
And so then those ads, they pay out to... What the heck is going on?
Yeah, but I don't like the idea of any billionaire.
I don't care if it's Mackenzie Bezos or George Soros.
I don't care.
I don't like that these people are super rich and that it would take a thousand people to... Like dude, a thousand people With making 50 grand per year still will not be able to match up to one millionaire because that 50 grand they're paying is going towards base necessities.
So they're not even at the point where they have disposable income to just be giving out for political and ideological causes.
ian crossland
Maybe we should have, throw more money at it Ian, like a government stipend every year that we can donate to political campaigns.
tim pool
That's one of the ideas, like a voucher thing.
So this voucher thing is really interesting in my opinion.
So we've talked about vouchers for schools.
You guys obviously know what this is about.
For those that aren't familiar, everybody pays taxes that are proportional to their income, and then you get a voucher that represents a certain amount of value for the school, and then you choose which school you want to go to, and they get that voucher.
So that way, rich people pay a little bit more, but still get one voucher.
Poor people pay a little bit less, still get one voucher.
And that guarantees equal access to schools, and then everyone can choose.
So a rich kid's voucher is worth the same as a poor kid's.
So the school's trying to compete for those vouchers, regardless of whether the student's rich or poor.
That's an interesting idea.
ian crossland
Oh, meritocracy.
tim pool
There's another idea that we all pay taxes into a public resource fund of some sort, and then those vouchers are given out to candidates at a certain point.
The problem is, who gets them?
ian crossland
I know.
And sometimes I don't donate at all, because I don't like any of the candidates.
tim pool
Because then the question becomes, if you poll at a certain number, then you get access to a percentage of vouchers.
Well, then how do you get to poll that level?
You get rich people to pay for ads for you.
Oh, man.
unidentified
Yeah, right.
tim pool
It's really, really difficult.
I don't know if there's a solution to the money in politics problem.
ian crossland
There probably isn't.
It's not the money, it's the access.
So they're buying access with their money.
It's power.
It's like influence is what they're buying.
It's influence, really.
Because like a YouTuber with 100 million followers can become president.
No, maybe- Oh yeah, in Brazil there was a YouTuber, or in the Middle East or something?
tim pool
I was gonna say, but for us right now, maybe in four to eight years, it's possible.
We still rely too much on the mainstream media.
ian crossland
So right now- This is mainstream media.
tim pool
What we're doing- YouTube, yeah.
Well, technically.
What I mean is, right now, I mean yeah, it's fair to say, I get like 110 million views in the past month.
And CNN, on digital, CNN is like 190 or whatever.
ian crossland
YouTube's what opens when I open my browser.
tim pool
Right, but many people still rely on legacy media.
And that's what we're looking at.
Joe Biden is the legacy candidate, and Donald Trump is the internet candidate.
No matter what happens, the establishment is losing power.
But that means we're going to see these wingnuts on Twitter who are screeching, ban them all, are going to be the left.
They're gonna that's what's happening. The Democrats are embracing it
They're absorbing that into their party and then once the establishment media is gone
You're gonna have us as the right and the left is gonna be a bunch of screeching
Cancel culture lunatics want to burn everything to the ground. We just build out the center. I
Mean technically we are that we are the center Like, you can clearly see the difference in opinion between, like, me or someone like Steven Crowder.
You know, we agree on fundamental issues that we are a country, and then we disagree on, like, the traditional wedge issues of the left and the right.
But what's happened is, there are regular Americans who have kind of, like, you know, stayed where they are, going a little left, a little right, back and forth, and then there's this weird, like, branch that's going like, and just, like, shot straight out.
ian crossland
It's the food supply.
tim pool
Now the Democrats are desperate to try and, you know, build a bridge between the new psychotic algorithmic far left and regular Americans, and they can't do it.
So Joe Biden's like, I'll go a little far left, making everyone go like, whoa, whoa, whoa, you're too far left.
ian crossland
Oh, thank God for the internet.
tim pool
But then the far left goes, he's nowhere near far left enough.
ian crossland
You can't win with that kind of mindset.
Crazy ain't gonna work.
tim pool
Well, that's what they're going for.
They're going for crazy and violence and they tried.
And now it's like, you know, and Trump as an internet candidate, he really, really is.
Think about this.
Trump posted Pepe memes.
You know, it's funny to watch, but it's kind of like a shock to a lot of traditional, like traditional establishment types who are like, this is not what a presidential campaign is supposed to be.
And they're freaking out.
So right now what we're experiencing is you got the left claiming the right is reactionary when in reality the right is actually substantially more progressive than the left is.
And I can prove it.
The left is repealing civil rights law.
The Democrats in California, the state, the Assembly, and the Senate have voted to repeal their civil rights legislation from their constitution, specifically Prop 209, that deals with government contracts, employment, things like that.
So the government will be able to discriminate based on race, meaning you'll start seeing, well, maybe seeing signs pop up that say like, you know, one race only, black only, white only, Latino only, Asian only, whatever.
They'll be allowed to do it at government institutions.
That's one thing they're doing.
The other thing they're trying to do is ban offensive speech, which is quite literally what they were doing back in the early 1900s.
They were trying to pressure the president to ban things that were offensive, and they've consistently tried to do these things.
Free speech, as we know it today, is a new concept.
And guess what?
You have Donald Trump, who's on the internet, uses the internet, tweets like crazy, he does not represent the old, traditional, stodgy, plastic media.
He's off the cuff, he says whatever's on his mind, and it offends a lot of people.
But that's what the internet is.
It's authentic.
You turn on a YouTube channel like this, and it's not like CNN.
unidentified
Not at all.
tim pool
You ever watch, like, you guys have seen local news?
unidentified
Yeah.
Where it's like, I'm standing here, in the street.
ian crossland
Why do they use that voice?
tim pool
I don't know.
ian crossland
Where does that come from?
tim pool
It's like they're taught to do it.
ian crossland
It's a learn that's so annoying.
tim pool
And that's what the Democrats represent right now.
It is it is an old so they're like they're activists are reactionary and that means they're specifically trying to stop the progress being made.
These people they don't they don't listen you talk about internet voting you realize you're talking about freedom.
Individuality.
Decentralization.
These are tenets of libertarianism.
That everyone online, that we can decentralize power and authority through encrypted internet networks and secure voting and secure their individual rights for all.
They're banning people from social media because they don't adhere to their orthodoxy.
That is not So, maybe what we're seeing is, as the Internet age develops and expands, you have Bernie Sanders, who was promoted by left-wing Internet populists, and Donald Trump, right-wing Internet populists, and the Democratic establishment, because they have allies in media, crushed Bernie.
The Republicans didn't.
So Trump wins.
It looks like what we're seeing now is a fight between the left-wing populists and the right-wing populists, and that's what's going to look like in the next several elections.
The far left is authoritarian, wants to shut down speech and take away rights, and the right wants people to have...
Whatever, say what you want.
ian crossland
They were trying to stifle Trump in the beginning.
They were pushing Jeb Bush, CNN, in the early days.
And he was just so boring.
And Trump was so powerful personality.
Nothing could stop it.
There were just weren't any powerful personalities up against him.
Jeb.
Hillary is, you know, as much as I dislike her, she's got a powerful personality and her name recognition.
lydia smith
Yeah, unfortunately.
ian crossland
But the establishment tried to stop Trump, the right-wing establishment, in the beginning.
But then they realized, we want him over whoever the Democrats are going to put, so let's just go with them.
lydia smith
Yeah, the right-wing establishment is not smart if they're pushing Jeb.
That's absolute insanity.
ian crossland
They really wanted him for about three weeks.
lydia smith
Oh, that was it.
Oh, sad.
tim pool
Jeb?
ian crossland
Yeah.
lydia smith
Jeb!
tim pool
Well, we got a bunch of great memes out of it, though, which I'm really excited about.
Please stop.
unidentified
Captain Jeb.
tim pool
And the Electoral College map showing all Jeb, 538, and him going like, yeah!
Please clap.
Oh no.
And then Buddha Judge had his please clap moment.
Come on!
And then everyone starts clapping.
unidentified
You love it.
tim pool
And now what do we get?
We have this really great, I have to showcase this piece of art.
Because I know we mentioned George Alexopoulos before, but boy is this art just so good.
I so have to walk you through this.
So it's at G Prime 85.
George Alexopoulos is one of the best comic artists right now in politics, period.
The first panel is a storm and like a lightning strike, and there's a hooded figure approaching a cave.
Inside the cave, there is a twisted figure wearing a muumuu, holding a stick with an old man hanging from it, and another creepy old man monster sleeping behind the evil muumuu monster.
And the muumuu monster's neck is all really long, yelling, who dares seek power?
The next panel is Kamala Harris kneeling on a bunch of skeletons, showing her face, she was the hooded figure, and then a smiling, elongated neck Hillary Clinton with weird alien bug eyes.
It's so good!
Wait, here's the best part.
In the second panel, the stick that she's holding has Bill Clinton hanging from it, and the giant Biden behind her sleeping.
It is just amazing.
ian crossland
The reason I love his art is because he says so much in just these beautiful images.
tim pool
Kamala Harris!
I love the smiling Hillary with creepy, bugged-out black eyes, and her neck is all stretched out.
ian crossland
She's so happy it's Kamala.
unidentified
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
Dude, wow.
Okay, how about we go to Super Chats?
unidentified
Alright.
tim pool
We got a Super Chat from Michelle Therese.
You are correct, stating the guy in Milwaukee was arrested to defuse protesting MPD, had their ability to use tear gas taken away in July.
They don't carry tasers.
MPD chief was demoted for use of tear gas pepper spray during riots.
It's a mess here.
There you go.
You know what, man?
I said it was gonna happen, and it started happening.
They're gonna come to your house.
Now, does it mean literally everyone's house?
No.
But, I'll tell you what.
Here's what I explain to people.
Let me ask you a question, Ian.
If you could buy a lottery ticket right now for one dollar, And you had to guess all the numbers, like Powerball.
But if you won, they chopped off your leg.
Would you buy that ticket?
ian crossland
Well, what do I get if I lost?
tim pool
No, you lose.
ian crossland
Um, no, probably not.
tim pool
But if you win, they chop your leg off.
ian crossland
Oh, oh, they would chop my leg off.
No.
tim pool
Yeah, you buy a ticket, and then if the numbers come up, they just chop your leg off.
And if you lose, you lose.
ian crossland
Oh, oh, oh.
So if I win, my leg gets chopped off.
unidentified
Yes.
lydia smith
Surprise.
tim pool
No.
ian crossland
No, I'm not going to buy that ticket, Tim.
tim pool
So that's the point I make.
If you are given the opportunity to entertain a situation in which there's no upside, And there is a rare potential that someone will show up to your house and you will be arrested because they accuse you of being a bigot.
Would you want that circumstance to happen?
ian crossland
No.
tim pool
No!
Who wants to live with any percentage chance it's going to happen?
ian crossland
What's the metaphor that you're going with right now?
Like, what's the downside of this?
tim pool
Antifa and Black Lives Matter are not going to every single person's house.
ian crossland
This is like speaking your mind online, you're saying, can induce this lottery ticket system?
unidentified
No.
No, no, no.
tim pool
I'm just talking about whatever.
Black Lives Matter, they're going around to people's homes.
This guy is targeting people.
Alright, one of these activists.
He'll go to your house, accuse you of being a racist, the cops come and arrest you.
They won't do that to every single person.
But there is a chance it could be you.
Would you like that circumstance to exist in which there's a chance a mob comes to your house for any reason and you get arrested?
ian crossland
No.
Well, it depends on the reason.
If it's because I'm speaking, what I believe has to be said... No, they just called you a bigot.
And you don't you don't know why I wouldn't don't don't don't fight back.
Don't respond to that crap.
tim pool
Well, the point I'm making is They're not going to go after everyone.
They're going to go after enough people so that people are scared and stop fighting back.
And then they'll think, if I just keep my head down, and then you get the Soviet Union, where people would just call the cops on their neighbor and say, my neighbor says communism is dumb.
And the next day the apartment was cleaned out and the person was gone at a gulag.
ian crossland
That's why I don't like these contact tracing things for COVID.
That feels like gulag Soviet stuff.
tim pool
Contact tracing like knowing where you go and who you talk to my neighbor got was by a guy yesterday.
ian crossland
I better tell report.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Oh, yeah Yeah, so I'm going in for a dentist for a permanent crown nice And I have to answer all these questions, and they're like have you been in contact with anybody who has these symptoms?
Have you traveled out of state all this crazy stuff, and they fill it out, and they document it That's where we're going looks like a step All right, let's see.
Dr. Lich says, if Biden refuses to come onto Joe's podcast, I vote Trump should go solo.
Still would bring in tons of views and media.
Smoke a joint like Musk, huh?
That would probably never happen.
ian crossland
But there is a chance.
So you're saying there is a chance?
lydia smith
Yes!
tim pool
Joey Giggles says, I work for VZW.
On our employee site they state, saying all lives matter really isn't cool.
Afraid I'll slip up and get fired for a different opinion.
Yikes.
Tom says, now my first choice for news analysis.
Thank you very much.
Student of History says, After your main video, I think we must expand the Andy Ngo method.
People from your area start popping up in riot blotters.
Let's go get that message out there, make them nervous without going near them.
So this is a reference to Andy Ngo, who is, when the public information comes out that people have been arrested, he just says, like, this person was arrested, you know, this is where they work, this is what the thing says.
So the police are like, John Smith, 34, was arrested for arson, battery, blah, blah, blah.
You know, and then Andy will be like, this person does this job.
And now Antifa is panicking because they're losing their, some, some people have lost their jobs because of this.
Um, as much as some of these companies want to pretend like, no, no, it wasn't over.
It wasn't over this.
It wasn't over this.
ian crossland
When it comes to criminals, sometimes you want to be careful not to make a martyr out of them and just lock them up, throw them in the oubliette and forget about them.
Like when they're gone, that's the best thing.
tim pool
Yeah, but if they're not being charged by the DA, they get right back out and keep doing it.
ian crossland
That's a problem.
You want to throw them away forever, into the oubliette.
It's down in the pit where they starve.
They die slowly.
That's what they would do in the Middle Ages if they wanted to forget about somebody.
They would throw them into a pit, and that's where they would live the rest of their days.
unidentified
In the pit?
ian crossland
Yeah, in this thing called the oubliette.
So, anyway, that's my point.
You don't want to make their pictures everywhere and then, all hail the guy that made a thing out of, you know.
tim pool
Conrad Wright says, Taxation without representation is tyranny.
Should murderers criminals be able to vote?
Who decides that line?
unidentified
Hmm.
ian crossland
Yes.
tim pool
Who decides the line?
lydia smith
They should be able to vote, you think?
ian crossland
Well, you don't lose your right to vote if you're a criminal, right?
lydia smith
Yes, you do.
If you're a felon.
ian crossland
Really?
Temporarily?
tim pool
Just while you're in?
So they're trying to pass new laws that will allow felons to vote.
And so like Florida did a big thing.
Yeah.
ian crossland
I don't know.
I don't know.
Voting's a right, you know?
tim pool
You gotta earn it.
It's a privilege, I should say.
There's a lot of questions about voting.
So, first you have the Starship Troopers method, where service guarantees citizenship.
You're a civilian if you haven't served and you can't vote, but you enjoy all the rights.
If you serve in some capacity, now you have the right to vote.
That's a really interesting thought, because right now we have people who vote who hate the country and want to destroy it, who've done nothing for it.
ian crossland
Yeah, and they vote for people who do.
Who, like, vote against what they think is the right thing.
tim pool
There are people here who are voting to hurt the country on purpose.
And there are some people who vote for random things, too.
ian crossland
But then you get, like, no offense to people that have served, but mindless people that have signed up to serve in the military because they just want to kill the bad guy that might go vote.
Just to follow the crowd.
tim pool
The service in Starship Troopers isn't infantry.
It could be anything.
It's just service to the community.
ian crossland
Service is key.
Whatever you do to serve, something, you know, can become a form of service to deliver the news.
tim pool
In Starship Troopers, they actively try to discourage people from finishing their service.
So they tell people, quit if you don't like it.
Because they don't want people who don't really want to strive.
It's an interesting idea.
The other idea is that land ownership guarantees... I don't like that, because it gets passed down.
So this was archaic.
It's the way it used to be.
But the idea was, if somebody can just show up and be like, I live here now, I'm voting, how do you know if they're actually a member of the community that wants to help, if they're just temporarily there?
So like, you could move to New York, be there for the minimum required time, then vote for something that destroys New York, and then leave.
And you don't have to deal with the consequences of your vote.
Also, like, one vote?
Not really the best way to change things these days.
saying I agree or disagree with any of these I'm just saying there are
challenges to the idea that everybody just gets to vote for any reason. Also
ian crossland
like one vote not really the best way to change things these days you can speak
your mind and influence like thousands of people. You know that still comes out of their votes though.
What's that?
tim pool
It still comes down to their vote.
ian crossland
Yeah, but it's their votes.
So, like, people that think, like, I'm gonna vote and they just stress all day, every day.
unidentified
On that day, I'm gonna go and I'm gonna vote so hard, I'm gonna vote.
ian crossland
No, you know what?
You can convince other people to vote.
That's way more powerful.
tim pool
But it still comes down to the fact that you've gotten all these people to use the vote.
ian crossland
Without the vote, it's... Yes, the function of the vote is quality.
tim pool
But influence can be more powerful than voting.
Because if you can influence millions of people to completely disregard or hate the country, then they'll destroy it with... To create a new voting system.
Even without voting, they'll go around with Molotov cocktails like we're seeing with Antifa.
ian crossland
Or to influence them to create a new voting system.
Like, influence is the...
It's the currency.
tim pool
Yeah, so many chickens says hey guys. I live north of Milwaukee
It's dangerous and deeply segregated the police pandered to the mob because they know how bad it would get if protests
started on And my on mass up here stay safe everyone appreciate it
Love you, William Kelly says the infernal revolution with peaceful kumbaya cocktails. That's right
Yes, hostile bogey inbound says ammo is getting hard to find war is the only thing I was ever good at
I want to be called off the bench I mean if so if you if you know war then you probably know
what you're getting into But I think ninety nine point nine percent of people are
gonna cry Non-stop all day every day when they realize what war
ian crossland
really is Yeah, because we, as Americans, haven't had to face a modern war.
We've been the aggressor, the attacker, with the superior tech every time so far.
But if we were up against someone with orbitable strike potential that could, it doesn't matter where you live in the country, they could just fry every building in every little town, that's what we're up against in the future.
So I don't think war is the key.
tim pool
I think future war is going to be just like, at a certain point, someone's going to have a button that just blows the planet up.
ian crossland
Yeah.
Except for their area?
They'll have a dome around it?
unidentified
No.
ian crossland
Or they'll have tunnels?
tim pool
No.
ian crossland
They'll be underground?
tim pool
Like, I think we already have nuclear bomb capabilities to just annihilate the entire planet.
ian crossland
At least the surface.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Of course, of course.
That's what I mean.
Like, they could press a button and just, like, microwave the whole planet.
Something like that.
I think our capabilities are probably horrifying.
ian crossland
Dude, I fear orbitable attack.
tim pool
Orbitable?
Rods from God.
ian crossland
Orbital attack.
Yeah, rods from God.
tim pool
Tungsten.
That was the G.I.
Joe movie, right?
Where all of London gets blown up because the satellite releases one gigantic tungsten rod and it just slams into London and the whole city just goes, ow!
ian crossland
Putin was saying that people have been so obsessed with intercontinental ballistic defense systems, but now the Russians have a system that just bypasses.
We don't need ICBMs anymore.
They do it from orbit now.
So the U.S.
can't prevent our attacks.
So all this stuff that they've been doing is a waste of time.
tim pool
The problem is we've tried.
We had the Strategic Defense Initiative to stop incoming ICBMs and stuff.
But Dr. Manhattan said it best.
If he can stop 999,999 and one gets through, a multiple independently targeted reentry vehicle could slam the eastern seaboard and kill tens of millions of people.
ian crossland
Also, all the unknown submarines that have nuclear weapons on board.
They're probably all over the coast right now.
Chinese submarines up and down the coast.
tim pool
Not even that.
I mean, aren't we well beyond submarines?
I get it, they can be underwater, but there's probably way more advanced technology we don't know about.
To me, it's crazy to think that when we see the commercials for the Navy, that's the epitome of our, the peak of our militaristic prowess.
We've been just sitting around being like, yes, everything we've all known about for decades is all we've got.
No way, man.
No, they got crazy stuff.
You know what I bet they have?
I bet they have, like, wrist lasers that they claim can turn you into a snake, but what they're really doing is vaporizing you and then releasing a snake from a leg holster.
ian crossland
Yeah, that sounds obvious.
tim pool
That's a Rick and Morty reference.
It's a Rick and Morty reference.
ian crossland
And it's the nanodrones that I fear, too, that can fly into your ears.
tim pool
All right, let's see what we got.
Neshoba Losa says, Tim, please read the BLM goals to your guest.
Since he doesn't read about this stuff but wants to have an opinion, he needs to be educated.
These groups, antics, and BLM are seditionist.
Well, there you go.
So one of the goals is disrupting the family and another is defunding the police.
ian crossland
These are their attack goals?
tim pool
Yeah, mission statement.
ian crossland
And then they have wants, which is like economic stability.
I don't know.
I tried to read their website.
They had like five wants.
They want economic equality.
At least that was one of them that I thought maybe we can get there.
tim pool
Garble nonsense.
Delamar says live streaming the DC siege Thursday till Sunday.
Find me on Twitch Delamar 2020.
Uncensored with real time commentary of the craziness.
Thanks for being my go-to lefty lol.
Love the candidate interviews.
Good job.
I think it's funny that it's like, the right calls me left, the left calls me right.
unidentified
Perfect.
ian crossland
Because you're right in the middle.
tim pool
Aaron Cowell says, you literally have a city named after a Roman dictator.
It was very common to appoint Cincinnati.
unidentified
Wow.
ian crossland
Oh, I didn't know that.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Interesting.
unidentified
I didn't know that either.
tim pool
Johan Oldman says the original meaning of dictator was a Roman leader given temporary emergency powers for six months.
Interesting.
They could dictate.
Bomchu says emergency powers are never a good idea, and are never given back.
Just ask Palpatine what he did with signers the petition of 2000 after the end of the Clone Wars.
He executed Order 66.
Johan 50- well that was dur- that was dur- was that after the Clone Wars?
I'm not big enough for Clone Wars.
ian crossland
I think that's what started the Clone- was that what started the Clone Wars?
unidentified
I think so.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no.
That was well after.
ian crossland
That was episode two that he executed.
tim pool
No, that was three.
Revenge of the Sith.
ian crossland
The beginning of three?
tim pool
I think that was the end of the Clone Wars.
Yeah, Exodus.
Yohan53100 says, Tim, Michigander here.
Do a quick search on how many times the recall Whitmer petition has been killed on Ballotpedia.
Last I checked were up to 11 attempts.
Side note, a judge also said inalienable rights aren't inalienable.
Amazing!
Welcome to America.
Superman, if he wasn't scared of Green Rock, says, What is it?
Uh, Fugolion Vermillion from Black Clover.
Black Clover.
I think you could apply the same principle to everybody who's been seeing and encouraging the violence.
I blame them on a moral level.
Interesting.
Virus Nation Gaming says, Yo Tim, just got here.
Love to see the live show.
Spin the cat!
ian crossland
I don't have a kitty!
There's Noki Drake by Water and Bolted.
lydia smith
He ran away.
Smart cat.
tim pool
Jkek552 says, This is a great cast.
I like the back and forth.
Appreciate it.
We'll be doing more.
So we're actually going to be moving to the new space soon.
The internet is really weak, but potentially strong enough.
ian crossland
20 megabytes up, 200 down.
tim pool
And that's really big.
ian crossland
Yeah, because right now we're on like high fiber.
tim pool
Yeah, we're on super gigabit.
Super gigabit.
ian crossland
But it might be worth the risk.
tim pool
I think it works.
It's worth the risk.
I think 20 works.
We only use about 2.8 to 3 megabits for high-definition broadcasts.
We're not doing 4k or anything.
Here we go.
Daniel Welch says, Did you see Judge Gleason's claim AG Barr is pressuring DOJ
to drop Flynn case despite all exculpatory evidence?
Courts can't be prosecutor.
Court circuit politicized.
Please get Sidney Powell on show.
I haven't been following it all that much, but I've been tracking the stuff that's going on with the subpoenas.
What do they do?
They just announced that they're going to be subpoenaing people in Obamagate.
lydia smith
Yeah, a whole list of people.
tim pool
Do you know the Mueller team, like 31 phones or whatever, got wiped before they gave to the DOJ?
lydia smith
On accident?
tim pool
Yeah, like whoops!
ian crossland
When did that?
What date?
What month?
tim pool
Just like periodically, like throughout the past.
ian crossland
No, I didn't know that.
tim pool
The phones were supposed to be turned over as evidence.
unidentified
Oopsie!
ian crossland
Dude, this tactic is driving me nuts!
Of just wiping the server and then... That's ridiculous!
That should be a crime!
lydia smith
It is!
tim pool
It is a crime.
Destroying public record is a crime.
ian crossland
But it should be a severe crime if the record is important.
tim pool
Bro...
There are stories of dudes who stole a bag of chips who get more jail time than these federal agents who wipe data and cover up crimes.
You know why?
Because the political class, they begrudgingly enforce these laws.
They're like, okay, we got a subpoena for an FBI agent, but I don't want him to subpoena me.
Hey buddy, wipe your phone.
I'll take care of you.
Nobody's gonna get in trouble.
There's not gonna be a perp walk.
Obama's not gonna get in trouble.
It's not gonna happen.
Listen, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.
We had Russiagate.
I said, you know, maybe there's something here with this Russiagate stuff.
Nothing.
Now everyone's going, oh but the Durham thing, it's gonna get all the Obama gay people.
No it isn't!
These people are gonna get away with everything they did and everything we know we did and that's it.
And the left can say the same thing about Trump.
I don't care.
It's just never gonna happen.
Trump's not gonna get arrested when he leaves office.
It's not going to happen.
unidentified
It's insane.
You know what anger means?
ian crossland
The prism stuff where Clapper lied to Congress under oath.
Yeah, of course.
That defies party logic.
That's just like, what a betrayal.
tim pool
Because we have no group of people in this country who will ever hold these people to account.
So I'm not surprised when I see these people saying, revolution nothing less.
I think it's insane that they want to destroy everything because they're upset, you know.
ian crossland
Yeah, I'm thinking about the French Revolution because they went too far.
tim pool
We don't want a revolution.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
We don't want violence.
We just want politicians who actually start standing up, and I think we're moving in that direction.
I think Trump is the bull stomping through the ivory tower.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And I think, thanks to the internet, as we move forward, we're going to get rid of a lot of these corrupt individuals.
I agree with you, dude.
We'll see.
We'll see, man.
We'll see.
Jonathan Hernandez says, Tim, Black Lives Matter and Antifa are one in the same.
It can't be.
Is that true?
It is true.
It's mostly true.
It's like, you know, two Venn diagram spheres, but they're like just slightly not overlapping.
ian crossland
It's 97% true.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
Jeffrey Schwartz says, I find it so hard to not see it getting worse.
I have spoken to people who have said, if Black Lives Matter comes and burns down my parents' house, I will just have to learn to live with it.
How do you talk to those people?
That's insane!
You know what really annoyed me?
I was watching a video about people in, I think it was Minneapolis, about how their businesses were destroyed.
And there were people saying... Wait, no, maybe it was Lancaster.
I think it was Lancaster.
Yeah.
They were like, we're upset that they were burning things down and smashing wind... Lancaster, sorry.
Lancaster.
unidentified
Lancaster.
lydia smith
There we go, yeah.
tim pool
They were like, we're... It was an elderly couple saying like, we're upset that they were smashing things and burning things down, but we support the movement 100%.
I'm like, shut up!
Stop supporting these people!
You do not get to go on TV and say, the rioting is bad, but the rioters are good!
ian crossland
We need more specifics about why they're doing it.
tim pool
Because they're insane people doing things for insane reasons.
ian crossland
But the final goal, some sort of like equality effort, like let's focus on that.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's not what they want.
tim pool
They're lying.
The rioters are bored and they're LARPing.
I'm gonna put on my medical kit and be a medic today!
ian crossland
I'm gonna put on my medical kit later.
I'm waiting seven days to die.
tim pool
Did you see the video where they were like, he needs a tourniquet!
Some dude in Portland got hit in the leg with a rubber bullet.
lydia smith
I grazed.
tim pool
And he had a superficial graze on his leg that was bleeding.
And they were like, we need to apply a tourniquet.
And he's crying, but I don't want to lose my leg.
And they're like, but we don't want you to bleed out.
It's like, dude, he got an abrasion.
It's an abrasion on his skin.
He's bleeding.
It's not a femoral leak.
He's not spraying blood in everyone's face like Kill Bill.
ian crossland
He's like, no, don't do it.
Don't tourniquet me!
tim pool
Yeah, and they did it.
ian crossland
Oh, did he lose his leg?
tim pool
No, I don't think so.
He probably took it off right away because they're like, they're LARPing, dude!
unidentified
I know.
tim pool
Putting a tourniquet on somebody because of a non-plastic round.
And you know what they're doing now?
They're screaming baton rounds.
Oh, these people are so dumb.
Baton rounds are thick plastic bullets.
They're huge.
Well, I say huge relative to other less lethals.
These cops aren't using baton rounds.
It fires a plastic baton at you.
A small, like, chunk of plastic hits you.
What they're firing are these expanding foam rounds.
They're foam.
They hit you.
You bruise.
That's about it.
In SoCal, I think they use bean bags, because I've seen them.
And it's like a little bag full of beans.
And it hits you.
ian crossland
But they can take your eye out or something, so they move to foam?
tim pool
So, different reasons they use them.
But a beanbag, when it hits you, it instantly deforms because it's a bag full of beans.
And it will spread out the force, and it will hurt.
And if they hit you in the abdomen with it, it can seriously injure you.
Because you can get internal bleeding and stuff.
But for the most part...
They're going around screaming like the cops are... I remember when at Portland they were like, the police are going to use live ammo on us!
And then Ted Wheeler was like, I'm here to address rumors.
People are concerned that live ammunition has been authorized for use on the protesters.
And that was the end of the tweet.
And then the next tweet was, I'm going to say that rumor is not true.
So all anyone sees is the first tweet where he's like, there's a rumor that the police have been authorized for lethal, you know, live ammunition on protesters.
ian crossland
Right.
The tweet should be connected somehow.
tim pool
They are.
But you don't see the thread.
You'll see the one tweet and have to click see the thread.
So a lot of people just saw him saying that, you know, there's a room.
Oh, man.
Yeah, just these people are so dumb.
Let's see.
We have a man named Mr. Hunt, first name Michael.
We need to stop the lies and propaganda via the mainstream media, big tech censorship, and the demon rat puppet masters with the real power.
Or we will all pay an unimaginable price.
Supamalit says, I believe that Russia is less of a threat in this day and age.
Also, Russia has paused the sending of their anti-air system S-400 to the CCP and began speaking to India about the threat in the Pacific from the CCP.
Interesting.
American Nacho says huge fan. I watch every day question Could you start adding the links you cite in the
description of your videos PS say my name is PS my name is also Tim and I podcast cool
so one of the main reasons why I don't put the links directly in is because as
Much as YouTube says it may not be the case putting external links to other sites
I saw a correlation between that and demonetization and I stopped doing it and it kind of helped so it could just be
superstition But what I decided to do was to include the URL bar in all of the display so you can see it.
The main issue is like...
If YouTube says, we don't want this link appearing on YouTube, because, actually we have an example here with Ian.
When Facebook censored mines, remember that?
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
If you were on Facebook and you tried sending MINDS.com to someone, you'd get a weird block saying like, you know, what would it do?
ian crossland
It would block you saying- It was like a warning block.
tim pool
Yeah, and that was really weird.
So there are certain links that, potentially, on their site, if you post it, they're going to knock you down.
ian crossland
Yeah, there'll be blacklists.
They'll have blacklists that they don't tell anyone what's on the blacklist.
I think James Damore actually whistle-blew on Google's blacklist.
That was part of his blow.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And we've seen it from Project Veritas, too.
So that's why I'm like, look, the links will appear at the top of every page.
I use NewsGuard, and 99% of all sources I use are NewsGuard certified, unless there's a special exemption for some reason.
ian crossland
I should say it wasn't James Damore.
It was another guy through Project Veritas.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know who you're talking about.
tim pool
Yeah, not Damore.
But yeah, it was Veritas.
ian crossland
Hey, Tim, by the way, you rock watching this show every day.
lydia smith
Yeah, thanks, man.
unidentified
Love you, man.
tim pool
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Other Tim.
ian crossland
Other Tim.
tim pool
Andre says, I like the show, except when you guys talk economics and campaign finance.
You should have me on to explain and clear up misconceptions.
To which misconceptions do you refer?
Sejong the Great says, median household income as of February 2020 was $66K.
Wow, that's better than I thought.
ian crossland
Good for America.
lydia smith
Yeah, I was closer to being right.
ian crossland
Well, that's household income.
So a lot of married couples.
tim pool
Oh, interesting.
Yeah, that's a good point.
Larry Yoshi says, thanks Tim for exposing the lies.
Aloha, appreciate it.
Alright, let's see what we got here.
I did read that one.
Let's see.
Chris Dumas says, out of curiosity, it was said that Hillary brought in double what she spent for her campaign.
What happens to the rest?
Uh, my general understanding is they can use it for other campaigns, but I don't know for sure.
Perhaps we need that other guy who knows more about campaign finance.
lydia smith
Indeed.
ian crossland
Oh, it's all connected.
tim pool
John Thomas says, eliminate the reason for people to try to buy politicians.
Reduce size and scope of government.
Simplify the tax code.
Either a flat tax or fair tax.
Government is never benevolent, at best benign, and usually malevolent.
Yeah, because people with power, you know.
ian crossland
I'm a fan of doing an internet campaign for that reason, because I think if someone can win a political office just by making YouTube videos and not having any money, not pumping money into it, that would be incentive to stop pumping money into candidates.
tim pool
I don't think you can get money out of politics, man.
ian crossland
Maybe never out, but diminished.
tim pool
I don't even know about that.
I don't think so.
ian crossland
You don't really need money.
With a $50 webcam and an internet connection, if you're a smart guy and you're dedicated... And I'm super rich, I can hire you.
But you didn't need to.
You have the access.
It's the access and the time spent that you're... Sure, sure.
tim pool
That is influential, but it doesn't change the fact that a rich person can just hire the influential person to say whatever they want.
ian crossland
Yeah, but they're looking at you.
You're the selling point.
You don't need to hire people to sell yourself.
tim pool
So if, you know, if I got offered a billion dollars, I'd be like, Biden's the best.
unidentified
Woo!
tim pool
I'm kidding.
I would never do that.
There's no amount of money.
But there's a lot of people who would.
And I'm not going to name the specific individual, but there was a high profile YouTuber who endorsed Hillary Clinton.
And it was like very out of place.
ian crossland
So you're saying bribe people to speak highly of you?
tim pool
Bribe?
ian crossland
It is kind of.
tim pool
Sponsorships.
ian crossland
Yeah, right.
Sponsorships.
tim pool
Sponsor lobby!
unidentified
They show up and they say, here's what we want to do.
tim pool
We're gonna give you a really big budget, and we don't care what you make, we don't care how expensive it is, your budget's gonna be three million dollars.
And make whatever you want, no matter the cost.
Because Hillary's great.
You know what they do?
They make a really quick video, they're like, yo, what up everybody, you know, I think this politician's really, really cool, it's been great, thanks, have a good time, go vote, and I'll see you next time.
And then they put the money in their pocket and they spend them.
unidentified
Yuck.
tim pool
So, it's sponsorship.
ian crossland
Yeah, but I do think one person that makes 12 hours of content a day is more powerful than that.
Because they're really listening to you when you're doing that.
If you're interacting with people.
tim pool
You're going to love this next super chat.
ian crossland
Let's do it!
tim pool
Let's see, Patriotic Gestalt says, Today's IRL feels like a D&D session.
With Tim's worldly experiences, he should DM slash GM a Mogadishu RPG actual play.
ian crossland
We were just talking about that.
A real life D&D with like elves.
Social justice.
Yeah, but like it's the SJW realm with BLM.
tim pool
We're working on a game, a card game, cancel culture.
Yeah.
And the general idea of the game is that you're trying to get your opponent banned from the internet.
And they have like characters, so there's like Peter Jordanson, and you know, Wet Bryant.
Really, really obvious satirical names for people.
And you're trying to ban like, you know, Big Red and other big fat feminists and stuff.
But another thing we talked about is creating, yeah, you don't even need to make it, but creating essentially a cancel culture D&D style game.
ian crossland
Yeah, the D&D rule set is open source, so we could literally make it and sell it.
And I like D&D 3.0.
Yeah, that'd be so fun.
tim pool
A political one.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
Because it's kind of like Shadowrun, but in modern day.
Shadowrun's like a dystopian future corporate government D&D game.
lydia smith
Oh, it sounds like us.
ian crossland
Yeah, but we do like more modern with the real stuff, I think.
tim pool
Strider says, hey Tim, love your show.
Not saying I hope that Cali, Oregon, and Washington try and secede, but I am in favor of draining the swamp, so... Yeah, I hear what you're saying.
Let's see, Myra Obenga says, Tim, please look up Cincinnatius from Rome.
He was a farmer who took power during time of war and returned it to the public once it was over.
Washington named Society of Cincinnatius after him.
And this is also a reference I've brought up several times about the idea of swords to plowshares, which is a Magic the Gathering card.
Someone sent me a big mock-up version of it.
ian crossland
That's in the Bible, right?
lydia smith
It is in the Bible.
And Cincinnati is actually named after a fraternal veterans organization founded in 1783 by former Revolutionary War officers and named for Lucius Quincinius Cincinnatus.
Oh, so it's not?
5th century BCE Roman hero.
So it's like a derivative of that.
Yeah, it's really interesting.
I had to look that up when somebody mentioned it.
tim pool
J-Rap says, look up Green Beam Dazzler.
It's a laser weapon that uses radiation waves through a laser that looks like a lightsaber.
It makes one immediately ill.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
So there's a website for a guy who makes energy weapons, and there's supposedly a light device that when you hold it in front of somebody and you pull the trigger, it makes them vomit.
ian crossland
Oh, my God.
tim pool
Yeah.
I've never seen it in action, and it could just be... I want to make one.
Yeah, so it's... I've got to get that registered.
I think they're exaggerating to make you vomit.
It nauseates you, and some people would vomit.
There's also something called the Dazzler, which is used around the world.
It's a high-powered laser, and they hold it in front of your eyes, and they click it, and then it's kind of like if you looked at the sun.
You know, when you look at light too long, you get spots?
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
You click it, and then, boom, you're blind.
And then, like, it takes a while for the light, for, like, your vision to come back.
ian crossland
Truly dazzled.
I think the Jedi, maybe the future police could be more like Jedi, where they have, like, a light baton and they use, like, persuasion or, like, some sort of mind powers to calm you down.
tim pool
Or vomiting.
I gotta read this one.
I don't know if this is true.
I'm gonna read it anyway.
Oracle Techno says, the Despacito song that Biden played, part of translated lyrics, quote, slowly, I want to breathe your neck slowly.
Let me tell you things in your ear.
No way.
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I gotta look it up.
Thank you.
tim pool
He did it on purpose.
ian crossland
Oh my gosh, that's gross.
tim pool
He did it on purpose.
ian crossland
What a funky old guy.
tim pool
Is he trying to lose?
ian crossland
I think from the beginning we all kind of... that was like a conspiracy.
I'm ready to read these.
tim pool
I have a... I'm a bit angry right now, guys.
ian crossland
Why is that, Tim?
tim pool
Because people have not smashed that like button!
lydia smith
Oh my gosh, you're right.
tim pool
What the heck, guys?
I'm actually rather tepid.
ian crossland
Use your thumb and devastate them.
tim pool
Give a little give a little touch that like button.
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ian crossland
You sure can!
And Lydia also has something to say that's awesome, but so I should talk about my thing first.
lydia smith
Yeah, do it.
ian crossland
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I believe he's going right now.
I'm going to find out soon.
Lydia, were you going to say something?
lydia smith
Oh, I was going to say, whoever said that about the lyrics to Despacito is correct.
That is creepy as all get out.
I want to breathe in your neck slowly.
Let me murmur things in your ear.
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Wow.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh.
ian crossland
Oh, Biden.
lydia smith
I'm so creeped out.
And on that note.
tim pool
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Thank you all so much for hanging out, everybody.
We'll be back.
What's tomorrow?
Thursday?
We'll be back tomorrow, Thursday, for another live show at 8 p.m.
And of course, like I said, I have content up literally every hour.
So you name it.
At 10 o'clock, video goes live.
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