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March 26, 2020 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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TimcastIRL - New York's Morgues Are About To Overflow With Corpses, Military Moving In
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adam crigler
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lydia smith
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tim pool
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tim pool
Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to the TimCast IRL Podcast.
unidentified
My name is Tim Poole, and joining me tonight is... You guessed it.
adam crigler
It's me.
It's me.
Adam.
tim pool
People are like, I don't know who this guy is.
adam crigler
Hey, soy Jesus.
Come on.
tim pool
Soy Jesus.
adam crigler
The one and only.
tim pool
Is that your new nickname?
Is that it?
adam crigler
I mean, it's stuck, man.
I'm embracing it.
lydia smith
Can't be removed.
adam crigler
Whatever.
I love soy.
tim pool
Soy?
adam crigler
I'm a big fan.
tim pool
I don't like soy.
I don't like it.
adam crigler
No?
I like... Edamame?
Man, I'll crush some edamame.
tim pool
I don't like edamame.
adam crigler
No, I'll eat it, but... I'm a huge fan.
tim pool
You know, there's a meme.
Soy Boy.
You know about it?
adam crigler
I've heard it, but I don't think I've ever seen it.
tim pool
Because they were calling you Soy Bro.
It's like, I guess a bro is a level up.
adam crigler
Oh, right.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
I've leveled up.
tim pool
So, soy boy is basically people who consume all of this soy, and then apparently it's like, full of estrogens.
That's actually not true, though.
Well, no, no, no, it is.
It's phytoestrogen.
But here's what people don't get, and I am NOT a nutritionist, so...
I could be completely wrong, but I was reading a thing about it, and what I read was that phytoestrogens that are in soy and stuff like that, they're actually a weaker form of estrogen, and so it blocks the receptors in your body, which blocks the natural estrogen in your body, so you get a weaker form.
So it's actually not the case.
adam crigler
So I'm actually more manly.
tim pool
Well, I just think it's, you know, we can't really say... It's a meme, right?
It's meant to be a joke.
I don't think... Some people think it's legit.
It's serious.
I think these, you know, like the guys from BuzzFeed... Do you know about the Try Guys?
adam crigler
I don't know anything about BuzzFeed.
tim pool
I'm not trying to be mean to these guys.
adam crigler
Except they own Tasty?
Some sort of kitchen utensil?
tim pool
Walmart kitchen utensil.
adam crigler
Random.
tim pool
I'm just gonna say it, you guys, if you don't know this, BuzzFeed, like, a big part of their business is selling cookware and like spatulas at Walmart.
adam crigler
Yeah, cheap stuff.
And they also have- Not even good.
tim pool
Yeah, but they have another brand where you'll actually go to BuzzFeed and there will be a story and you'll click it and it's their company selling cookware.
That's their... I mean, it's smart, you know.
But anyway, look, there were these four guys.
I don't know if they're still with BuzzFeed or whatever, but they're called the Try Guys.
adam crigler
The Try Guys.
tim pool
And they were like, we're gonna go get our testosterone levels checked.
And they published this.
I was surprised, because their T levels were equivalent to that of a 60-year-old man.
Like, 60 or 70.
adam crigler
And that's bad.
tim pool
And they were in their 20s or something.
adam crigler
It's low, right?
That's really low.
tim pool
Super low.
Super low.
Yeah, they're like in their 20s and their testosterone was like if they were an old man.
It's crazy.
adam crigler
Bunch of old guys.
tim pool
At heart.
Scrawny, weak, BuzzFeed dudes, effeminate.
I'm not saying that to elicit an emotional reaction, to drag them or anything.
I got no beef with these guys.
I'm surprised they published that.
adam crigler
No?
Good for them.
tim pool
Yeah.
Anyway, the reason I'm talking about this for the most part is that, dude, the news is hell.
Is pure hell.
I agree.
adam crigler
I will second that.
tim pool
And we're both, like, well, all three of us are sitting here and it's like, What do we talk about?
Downtrodden.
adam crigler
What should we talk about today?
Well, there's we got coronavirus.
We also have coronavirus and followed it up with coronavirus.
Well, I guess we'll go with coronavirus.
tim pool
I was thinking back to the good old days when we made fun of Birds of Prey and Harley Quinn.
adam crigler
I miss those days.
tim pool
I was like, wasn't it fun when we made fun of how stupid that movie was?
adam crigler
We talked about how awesome Sonic was.
tim pool
Yeah.
Man, that was too different.
adam crigler
That was a good movie.
tim pool
What has happened to this world?
adam crigler
We should watch that movie and reminisce.
We should.
tim pool
Like, look, Birds of Prey.
adam crigler
No, no, Sonic.
I don't wish that movie upon anyone.
Especially us, because we've seen it already.
tim pool
For real, though.
adam crigler
Once was enough.
tim pool
I will quickly say, for those that are just tuning in, hit that like button.
It really helps.
adam crigler
Yes, it does.
tim pool
Pop over to the Super Chat if you want us to read your comments, and you can become a member if you'd like.
But, you know, we've got a very grim and morbid story we're going to lead with.
adam crigler
Again.
tim pool
Again, of course.
But before we do that, let's have a little chat about You know, when we first started doing this, there was some newsy stuff, but the main idea I had was like, I talk about news and politics all day.
We don't need to do that.
And now we have literally nothing else.
You go to any news website, coronavirus.
Corpses, morgues, military.
And I was thinking, why are we doing this again?
And I'm like, we're sitting down here trying to figure out, what do we have to talk about?
What's the big deal?
And then I'm scrolling through various news websites and every single story is like, the apocalypse is upon us.
So I started thinking, is there some kind of show or movie that just came out that maybe we could watch and talk about?
adam crigler
I mean, I am looking forward to Westworld.
I liked it.
I thought it was good.
tim pool
None of this stuff is culturally relevant now.
I guess not, yeah.
There used to be birds of prey in the news and things are happening.
And then we were like, cool, let's go see it and then do like a review of it.
adam crigler
And then feminists hate Sonic because it's not Birds of Prey.
And it's like, what?
And we talked about that and it was great.
tim pool
It was like pop culture, celebrity stuff.
And I'll be real with all of you guys watching, the segments we did making fun of celebrities did better than like most segments we do.
Yeah.
But that's because it's like we were having fun, you know?
adam crigler
It brushes on pop culture kind of, right?
tim pool
Well, it's literally pop culture.
adam crigler
Oh, yeah.
Okay, so stabs it right in the center of pop culture.
lydia smith
Yeah, man.
tim pool
Right.
So here's what I want to do.
I talk about politics all day.
Why are we talking about the same thing?
I actually even talked about this, but there's literally nothing.
All anyone cares about right now is the world is ending.
And for real.
The approval ratings for the president and the Gallup polls tracking what people are talking about.
No one's talking about TV.
No one's talking about movies.
Movies are shut down.
Sports are shut down.
There's nothing.
We can't complain about how that one basketball player should have been followed and he wasn't.
adam crigler
Nope.
tim pool
You know what we could talk about?
The morgues are overflowing in New York.
adam crigler
And that's our first story.
Great segue.
tim pool
Yep, yep.
So, look, you know...
I feel like we're getting so grim with this show, because these stories every day are just so horrifying.
And I hope this isn't the new normal.
adam crigler
I really hope not, too.
tim pool
But we actually have another story that Harvard is saying two years.
I actually don't know if I have it pulled up, but Harvard is saying the same thing MIT said.
Two years of this.
lydia smith
Two years of what?
tim pool
Lockdown.
adam crigler
Is that because it's basically that long till we have a vaccine that's verified?
tim pool
No, Dr. Fauci said it's going to be seasonal.
adam crigler
I know, but if we have a vaccine for it, then... Maybe.
tim pool
I don't know.
adam crigler
Or is it gonna just keep, you know, changing?
tim pool
What they're saying is that, you know, in two years maybe we'll have herd immunity, and then it'll become kind of like a flu.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
But for the time being, they're saying we're gonna lock down for two months, reopen for a month until we hit a certain per capita infection rate, and then lock down for another two months right away.
Which means...
Dude, I gotta be honest, man.
We have another story that we're gonna go through.
The economic stimulus package.
Everybody's gonna get $1,200.
Boom.
And if you lost your job, the government's gonna pay your wages for four months.
adam crigler
Wow, really?
tim pool
Yeah, how long is that gonna last, though?
adam crigler
I didn't hear that part.
tim pool
Yep.
That's the Venezuela route.
Hey, everybody's out of work and let's just print more money!
And then what happens?
Then you have garbage bags full of money that nobody wants.
So we're already seeing prices spike.
But I do have some good news because we do have another story we're going to talk about.
It's exoskeleton development.
adam crigler
Dope.
Iron Man.
Iron Man suits.
tim pool
Iron Man suits.
I want one.
adam crigler
We should all get one and review them.
tim pool
Yeah, they're half a million dollars.
unidentified
And have it on the show.
tim pool
Have you seen the guy who can fly with the suit?
adam crigler
Can we rent them?
tim pool
I think you can pay the guy.
There's like this guy who made this suit.
He's got turbines.
adam crigler
Yeah, I've seen that.
Like twin turbines.
One on each side.
tim pool
And you can pay him or something.
adam crigler
Ah, okay.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
For the show.
For research.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't know where he is.
adam crigler
Who wants to see Tim fly around in an iron suit?
I know I do.
tim pool
I gotta be real with y'all.
I gotta be real.
You know why we don't have them now?
They're novelties.
They'll never make sense.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's true.
tim pool
Because imagine you're flying around and then one minor malfunction and you die.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
Nothing we can do about that.
tim pool
So actually I was watching this documentary about jetpacks.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Why is it that we don't have them when they actually developed a jetpack in the 70s that could carry you for half, like half an hour.
And the reason was the, the... Because if you fall, you die.
If you fall, you die.
adam crigler
That's pretty obvious.
tim pool
And in war, you're easily shot at and like, you know, taken out.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And so they just said, why don't we just use helicopters?
And so they just use helicopters.
adam crigler
That makes sense.
tim pool
It can carry more people.
It's more efficient.
But they had this floating platform you could stand on.
So it's actually really cool.
It's like, it's, I don't even know how to describe it.
Like there's a cylinder kind of shaped thing with a fan in it.
You stand on it and there's like a railing and it, it flies.
adam crigler
So like a hovercraft platform thing?
tim pool
Yeah, they're trying to figure out how to make like Soldiers who could move better.
Okay, but in the end man flight like imagine if you're going through the jungle What are you gonna fly over the trees?
adam crigler
I mean the military is just making robots anyway.
Yeah, that's that's the future I'm pissed.
There's gonna be no humans on the battlefield.
It's just gonna be robots fighting each other We already have flying robots.
Until they all turn on us and go we're not gonna kill each other anymore.
unidentified
We're gonna kill you Yeah, wasn't that on like a show or something?
tim pool
The robots are like why are we killing each other?
Let's kill them.
adam crigler
It was an iRobot?
No.
No.
What was it from?
tim pool
No, that's the I DID NOT KILL HIM movie.
adam crigler
I don't remember.
tim pool
Where the robot slams the table.
adam crigler
iRobot.
tim pool
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Right now it's turned evil.
The AI took over.
adam crigler
Yeah, I think so.
tim pool
I mean, talking about this is way more fun than talking about the collapse of civilization.
unidentified
Oh, it is.
adam crigler
I'm trying to push it off as far as I can.
tim pool
We gotta do it.
adam crigler
Let's just jump into it.
tim pool
We gotta do it.
adam crigler
Let's get it over with.
tim pool
Alright, check this out.
New York City's morgues are expected to hit their 900 body capacity in seven days as it asks FEMA for emergency assistance and the military set up refrigerated trucks outside Manhattan's Bellevue Hospital as the city's death toll nears 200.
The first thing I'm going to say, take a look at these photos.
So, I guess these are FEMA emergency tents or something.
They're trying to expand the capacity of these hospitals.
And I don't get it, man.
People are saying it's not real.
Like, on Twitter they're like, I don't know anybody who's got it.
adam crigler
Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's not real, people.
tim pool
Yeah.
What's the famous quote from Kurt Cobain?
adam crigler
I don't know.
tim pool
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not after you?
Yeah.
I like that.
But what's interesting, too, is over on the Donald Trump website, their big forum, Someone posted like serious question. Do you know anybody
who has this and all the comments like yes Yes, I do. They're like my my, you know
Housekeeper like my wife's sister or something things like that
So yeah, what's crazy is how quickly these hospitals are filling up. Yeah, and we have a couple viral videos
Interestingly, this is not calling it. This is not the the video
Like from the new york times, but this is showing clips in the new york times
So, the reason why you don't see any photos or videos from inside hospitals, the first big reason, nobody's thinking about filming anything.
Like, people are dying.
Not only that, but the average person isn't going back into the ER.
Like, I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, but every hospital I've been to, like, there's a lobby and you can't go anywhere unless they call you in and the doors are sealed, right?
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
There you go.
So maybe we should expect to see more filming in the lobby, but, dude, I'll tell you something, man.
If you're in the lobby of a hospital and you whip out your phone and start filming people, like, look at these people!
You're gonna get hit.
lydia smith
That's not nice.
tim pool
Yeah, but I mean, someone's gonna hit you.
They're gonna be like, yo, what are you doing?
We're in a hospital, man.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And let alone going into it.
But then there's also HIPAA.
You can't, like, what does that stand for?
lydia smith
The Health Information Privacy Portability Act or something.
tim pool
There you go.
Yeah, the doctors can't do it.
But we did get this doctor at, what was it, like Elmhurst Hospital in New York?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And she went around filming inside the hospital showing how bad it is, and it's pretty bad.
And then she's basically saying, we don't have what we need, the governor is wrong, people are wearing trash bags.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Yup.
Because it's getting bad.
And then we have this viral video.
Ian Miles Chong tweeted this out.
He said, this is really hard to watch.
Please keep telling me to stop overreacting whenever I post about the coronavirus.
And it's this video where, I guess it's not going to play or whatever, but she's an RN, I think?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
What does that mean?
Registered nurse?
lydia smith
Registered nurse, yeah.
tim pool
She's driving and she's saying that she just had her first shift and she's like, what, what is this?
She was like, two people, like, everyone's freaking out.
They're rushing around.
I'm left with these two people who are like on ventilators dying.
lydia smith
So she, she wasn't able to like be in touch with doctors cause they're freaking slammed.
And she was literally providing all of the cares for two people who are, yeah, basically dying.
Both of them on ventilators, I think.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
That's a lot of people.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Critical mass, yo.
We're reaching it soon.
tim pool
I kind of feel like, what more can, like, what do we do?
You know?
Because, like, here's the thing, man.
What do we even talk about?
What do we even say about this?
It's just getting worse and worse every day.
Do we say the same thing every day?
Do we come on and be like, hey guys, thanks for tuning in to The World is Ending Again, and it's worse than yesterday.
Yes, you know.
lydia smith
That's the show.
tim pool
That's the show for tonight.
It was worse than it was.
adam crigler
Well, we were talking about it.
We're going to watch The Hunt.
lydia smith
Yes, we're going to do something else.
adam crigler
We're going to watch The Hunt.
unidentified
Yes.
adam crigler
And we're going to talk about tomorrow.
Yeah.
We're going to review a movie tomorrow.
Switch things up a little bit.
lydia smith
Yeah, man.
tim pool
You know, for me especially, it's like I wake up every day and I read all of this news.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And then, you know, I was like, man, we should do a new show.
We could talk about other things.
And the war ends.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And I'm like, aw, man.
adam crigler
And everything stops working.
lydia smith
Boo.
Terrible timing.
adam crigler
Because of this.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
But I wonder, you know, I'm not going to be afraid to talk about what I'm about to talk about, because I know a lot of people would refuse to do it, but is there a positive that comes out of all of this?
lydia smith
There are many positives.
adam crigler
It feels like we're going to bring our manufacturing back to America.
lydia smith
That's good.
tim pool
That is a good thing.
Yeah, let's make this a positive segment.
Instead of just talking about hospitals being overrun with corpses.
lydia smith
I started a list on Twitter of positives of this, and I came up with a really long list.
I need to go back and find it.
tim pool
Did anybody get offended?
lydia smith
No.
Everybody was like, oh yeah, I thought of some.
tim pool
Manufacturing coming back is a good thing.
lydia smith
Yes.
Spending time with your family is a good thing.
tim pool
You know what I'm reminded of?
That meme of the political compass where every quadrant gets what they want.
What was it?
The authoritarian left is happy that the corporations are collapsing.
The libertarian left is happy that the environment is healing.
The libertarian right is happy that the governments are collapsing and the authoritarian right is happy that borders are being closed.
Everybody gets a little bit, right?
adam crigler
I think a lot of people are going to start growing their own food also.
tim pool
I hope they do.
adam crigler
I think that's pretty huge.
I mean, I've been saying it for years.
Why do we have grass?
lydia smith
Right.
adam crigler
What is grass good for?
Rolling around in?
tim pool
No, but it's a default.
adam crigler
It was like a standard.
Who's who in the neighborhood has the nicest green grass?
tim pool
No, no, but where did that come from before that?
Like, what's the root of this?
adam crigler
Yeah, I don't know.
tim pool
No, it's because grass is just there.
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
So, like, I'm gonna build a house, and you build a house, and you're surrounded by grass.
And then you're like, the grass is too tall, so you cut it in half.
And then someone's, you know, the grass is just... Is grass an invasive species?
Is that fair to say?
adam crigler
I don't know.
lydia smith
Probably the grass that we grow now.
Kentucky bluegrass or whatever?
tim pool
I'm having more fun talking about grass than I am talking about coronavirus.
adam crigler
Permaculture.
tim pool
What is that?
adam crigler
It's growing your own stuff.
lydia smith
Yeah, we just started our garden today.
adam crigler
Recycling everything, learning how to live off the land again.
It's like we've lost that as humans.
If everything just stopped working, it kind of looks like it's going to stop working.
Everyone needs to learn how to handle their own stuff and grow their own stuff.
tim pool
I had an interesting idea for a fantasy theme for a game or something, where I was imagining how we're centralizing all of these different industries.
We've got major fracking hubs in the North Dakota area, oil pipelines and stuff like that.
Then you've got China producing all the rare earths.
And I'm thinking, if it's cheaper to have a shipping vessel with all these cargo containers Let me stop for a second.
I'll explain.
Skateboards.
How are they made?
They chop a tree down in Canada, send the wood to China, the Chinese laborers turn it into a skateboard and send it back to California, and then it's sent over the U.S.
That's insane.
I know, it's crazy.
We have rock maples in America we can cut down and sustainably harvest and then make skateboards out of.
adam crigler
Or make bamboo boards.
tim pool
Or even bamboo boards, which they do.
adam crigler
And they've got nice pop.
tim pool
They do, but they flop out real quick.
They don't last as long.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
But you know, hey, I'll take a sustainable board if it's bamboo, right?
adam crigler
Exactly.
That's where my head's at.
tim pool
I started thinking about this, like if we're seriously gonna take our wood and send it to China to make a skateboard, what would the future of this reality look like in a hundred years?
And so I was thinking of a world where no one in the United States has any idea how to make anything electronic at all.
Like if we went down this path.
So you have regions that specialize specifically in one thing, Because it's cheaper.
adam crigler
True.
tim pool
So it's like, you know, you have a company that says, we need electronic, you know, component manufactured, goes to China.
And then China has these weird like states that are just like, the entire culture is making phones, the entire culture is mining rare earths, the entire culture is... Making skateboards.
Making skateboards.
Yeah.
So that's like a future that doesn't make sense.
And so now we're seeing everything kind of flip back, like the pendulum just crashed into the wall and it's swinging back the other way.
adam crigler
Or got stuck there.
tim pool
Yeah, just jammed in the wall.
adam crigler
That's what it feels like.
It just was like, whoop!
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
And we're like waiting for it to continue back or something.
But nope, nope.
We're just stuck here.
lydia smith
Just chillin'.
tim pool
I think we're gonna have to start recognizing there's two ways out of this.
We destroy the economy, which results in lots of people dying.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Or we slowly go back to work, which results in lots of people dying.
adam crigler
Yeah.
lydia smith
Great options.
tim pool
Is there a third?
lydia smith
There is not.
adam crigler
Yeah, which is, uh, which do we have less deaths with, you know?
What's gonna be the better option?
I feel like that would be the one, wherever less people die.
tim pool
There's nothing you can say because you'll get attacked no matter what.
lydia smith
Yeah, from both sides.
adam crigler
I can say very easily, I don't want people to die.
lydia smith
Yeah, you can say that.
adam crigler
Right.
Go ahead and try to attack me for that.
lydia smith
Yeah, so how are you going to prevent that?
Are you going to prevent people committing suicide when they lose their job?
Or are you going to prevent them from getting sick?
tim pool
No, it's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's... Three million new unemployment.
adam crigler
Hold on.
unidentified
3.3. 3.3.
tim pool
Let's not even talk about suicides.
I'm talking about people who lose their homes, lose their food.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
You don't have resources, you can't live.
adam crigler
And actually starve.
lydia smith
Yeah, they could actually starve.
adam crigler
And then they catch coronavirus and they're not getting the nutrients.
And then it's like, even if they were healthy, they don't even have the nutrients for their body to like create anything to fight it.
It's like, it's a delicate situation we're in right now.
tim pool
Yep.
So Trump says the economy's got to get started.
And here's what I've been thinking.
He's a trade guy, right?
He's not a PhD economist or anything like that.
But he knows trade.
So he's looking at this from a trade perspective.
The doctors are looking from a health perspective.
But neither understands each other.
It is a fact.
If the economy tanks, We don't get it back.
And it will be worse.
Because then, without a working economy, there are no supplies, there is no technology, there is no cure, and then the coronavirus comes in right afterwards.
So what do we do?
Do we open it back up and then just be like, well, then people are gonna die.
adam crigler
Well, Fauci said it's cyclical.
It's coming around.
It's not going away.
It's spreading in the warm places of Earth where it's supposed to be summer.
And they were trying to see if it was like, well, maybe the heat would kill it off.
But it's spreading.
tim pool
I think we're going to have to realize that, you know, we've grown our generation of degeneration into this position where we think death isn't a thing that happens.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
There was a period, like we talked about this the other day, like I was talking about how I went to Glenn Beck's studio and he had this newspaper on the wall, all these old papers, and I was reading one where it was like a dude was outside of a bar smoking and then some guy walked up and just blasted him in the chest, pulled out his pistol.
But no, these things happen today.
Go to Chicago, man.
People pull out guns and they shoot it.
So I think, you know, maybe we've come to a point where we've put ourselves in this bubble that's so secure, we're now, like, we're gonna burn ourselves down because we refuse to accept that, hey man, look, pandemics and viruses happen and they hurt people.
You know, we want to mitigate that, for sure.
Save as many lives as possible.
But shutting down the entire economy, because now the U.S.
has the most infected people on the planet.
Yeah.
It's like, what, 83,000?
And if we kickstart the economy back up, that's gonna jump.
It's gonna go nuts.
And what are they estimating?
Like, on the high end, 6 or 7 million dead?
Yeah.
Out of 327 million?
lydia smith
I have heard this number.
tim pool
Yeah.
On the low end, it's like 1.2.
lydia smith
It's at least a million.
tim pool
That's insane.
lydia smith
It seems like whatever we do.
tim pool
Like, you gotta realize, man, 9-11 was, you know, around 3,000 people.
And that was a horrifying shock to this nation.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And now we're already at 1,000, which means in another week, this could be more deaths than 9-11.
It's not the same, I understand, but in many ways, it's... in many ways, not every way, but it could be worse.
lydia smith
We don't really have a comparison anymore.
The last thing like this that happened was a hundred years ago.
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
And we just... we have no frame of reference.
Life's never been that hard for us.
tim pool
Are we gonna return to a pragmatic, stoic world?
adam crigler
Probably.
tim pool
People are going to just be like, sometimes people die.
Get back to work.
adam crigler
I mean, it's, it's, yeah, people are in their comfortable bubble and everybody's bubbles popping.
You know, we're realizing we're, we're all humans that are susceptible no matter who you are.
It doesn't matter who you are.
You could be rich, rich people are getting it.
tim pool
They're mostly getting it because they fly around all the time and they're more likely to get infected.
adam crigler
That's true.
Yeah, you're right.
tim pool
Yeah, but there are homeless people getting it, there are young people getting it.
We're hearing more and more stories about young people getting it.
adam crigler
No, that's the point.
Everyone is susceptible.
Everybody.
We're all humans.
unidentified
We're all... Whoever you are, you're a bubble.
adam crigler
If you're comfortable and you think death can't catch you... You are in a bubble.
tim pool
Let me tell you something.
New York City had, or I think New York State, I'm sorry, 100 deaths in the past 24 hours.
So everybody's been saying, the flu is worse, the flu is worse.
unidentified
Alright.
tim pool
According to the CDC, from October to February, we had 12,000 deaths.
That comes out to just about four deaths per hour in the U.S.
New York alone in one day had four deaths per hour.
That's just one state.
So there we go.
New York has just surpassed the national numbers for the low-end estimate for the CDC on flu deaths.
So it is going to get worse.
And if we do open up the economy, then, well, what do you think's going to happen?
adam crigler
It's going to shoot up more.
tim pool
It's going to be a wave.
adam crigler
I mean, they keep saying that, well, we're testing more now.
So you're going to see a spike.
Don't don't fear the spike.
We're testing more.
lydia smith
Yeah, but our number of deaths are going up as well.
adam crigler
Yeah.
lydia smith
Right?
tim pool
So is this just the end?
No, it's not the end.
Is there any way out of this?
adam crigler
I mean, what's the percentage of people it's killing, you know?
tim pool
In the US, actually, low relative to the rest of the world.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
We got good hospitals, man, as much as a lot of activists would argue we don't.
I think it's around, like, between, like, .8 and, like, 1.5.
adam crigler
So the well, I mean you can look at the number right there like the death percentage is low, you know, so You know, it's it's when you don't see it, you know when it when it's not in your face You know, it's you see all these numbers, you know, and it's like we can talk about these numbers But you know, it's not tangible because I don't see it, you know, and I'm not I don't know anybody who has it.
So I'm not It's it's hard to like even talk about it, you know with it's such a I You know, a solid statement on it, because I don't know.
I don't know.
Yeah.
It's definitely scary, and I know I'm scared, and I think that that is kind of where everyone's at.
Everyone's afraid.
It doesn't matter who you are.
To a certain degree.
Well, yeah, exactly.
tim pool
Some people want to watch the world burn.
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
Sure.
tim pool
There are a lot of jokers out there, man.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's true.
tim pool
Laughing about it.
Encouraging the worst.
adam crigler
They're gonna laugh about it until the person they love catches it.
tim pool
Nah, there was a lady who went into a store and started coughing, and this is not too far from here, started coughing on all the produce.
And they had to just dump it all.
And she was like laughing.
She thought it was funny.
There are people licking toilets to think it's funny.
There are people who are licking deodorant to think it's funny.
lydia smith
People are spitting on nurses and doctors when they go out in their scrubs.
People are awful.
unidentified
Whoa.
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
Where's that story at?
lydia smith
It's all over the place.
It's happening in India.
It's happening here in the US.
tim pool
Oh, that's right.
Yeah.
Doctors are getting kicked out of their houses.
lydia smith
Yes, they are being evicted.
Yeah.
And there was that paramedic who was evicted in the UK by his landlady who texted him because she didn't want coronavirus.
tim pool
I'll tell you what man, this morning when I was looking at the news, when I was listening to the bickering between the political parties, I have never been more pessimistic about our chances here.
Never.
Do you know what happened in Venezuela?
adam crigler
And when?
tim pool
What are you talking about?
No, I don't know.
In Venezuela?
years no we got a print more money and you and give that so they have a bunch
of unemployment right and they think they can just print money to buy their
way out of their problems in Venezuela yeah and this happens in socialist
countries because it doesn't work they start dumping money and then all of a
sudden I went to Venezuela man I had stacks of cash and it was like this big
we had a garbage bag full of full of Venezuelan bills it was uh it was the
it's called the boulevard I think it was and you couldn't do anything with it
like this big bag of like I think I had a hundred at the time this is crazy too
at the time when I went a stack like this big was a hundred bucks
Equivalent okay, and so I brought it back, and I'm like boom on a table I'm like bling bling and we all started laughing cuz it's like it's worthless.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Well.
No it was like worth shy of a hundred bucks Okay, it's got value, but like this massive stack of cash, and so they were like what are we gonna do with this?
Nobody wants anything from Venezuela, and it's because they just started printing money.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's that's what we're doing right now That's what the stimulus package is right Print money.
tim pool
What do we have, like six trillion dollars now?
The debt was already really high.
And now they're printing all this money.
We're gonna see... I'm worried we're gonna see runaway inflation.
lydia smith
Yeah, I'm a little bit worried about that as well.
tim pool
Yep.
So, let's do this.
Let's...
Let's take a look at... Let's see if we got this.
Alright, check this out.
The cost of household staples, milk, eggs, and bread skyrocket by up to 30% as panic buying leaves retailers grappling with supply shortages.
I'm gonna come back to this.
But we have this story from the New York Times, frequently asked questions on stimulus checks, unemployment, and the coronavirus bill.
In the short term, I have good news.
Apparently, according to the New York Times, you don't gotta do anything.
You're just gonna get a check, it's gonna show up.
adam crigler
Oh, they're not making us pay it back?
tim pool
No, no, it's a stimulus.
Meaning they just give you the money.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
So when it comes to the stimulus, what they basically say is that you don't even have to... Let me see if I can pull this up.
Would I have to apply to receive payment?
No.
If the Internal Revenue Service already has your bank account information, it would transfer the money to you via direct deposit based on the recent income tax figures it already has.
So if you already filed your taxes for this year, it'll use 2019.
If you haven't, it'll use 2018.
You're just gonna wake up one day with money in the bank.
That's good in the short term, right?
You can go to the store, you can order on Amazon, you can get what you need to get.
Here's the problem, man.
This solves nothing.
adam crigler
Agreed.
tim pool
And I got no beef with the people trying to do the stimulus, but all the restaurants and all the retail shops that are out of business right now, that are shut down or furloughed or whatever?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, stimulus isn't going to put anything into that.
adam crigler
What about rent?
My rent was $1,200 a month in New York.
Yeah, dude.
Okay.
lydia smith
It's a Band-Aid.
adam crigler
No, it's enough to pay rent and nothing else.
tim pool
It's barely a Band-Aid.
adam crigler
It's not.
It's not even a Band-Aid.
It's a kiss on the boo-boo.
It'll feel better soon.
tim pool
It's not doing anything.
There's nothing they can do.
I'm not saying this as beef to the Republicans and the Democrats.
You know, because I've been critical of the Democrats holding it up for a bit.
The Republicans then held it up for certain provisions.
So, we'll see a little back and forth.
But the reality is, if the business is shut down, Where do you spend the money anyway?
Yeah.
There was a really sad post I saw.
A family pizza shop.
They said, I'm sorry.
You know, after 40 years, we are officially out of business.
Because these businesses are operating on very slim margins.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
I think they're like only a few percentage points.
It was a small pizza shop that was not, you know, super wealthy.
They closed.
Those jobs are gone.
lydia smith
This is why it bothers me to see people say, oh, it's just big corporations.
tim pool
Right.
lydia smith
Help the little dude.
tim pool
I mean, but even the big corporations, I get it, man.
Boeing has a lot of employees.
They have, like, 70,000 or whatever.
lydia smith
They have thousands of employees.
tim pool
It's not even that.
The airlines are basically operating at, like, no capacity.
They're essentially shutting down.
No one's traveling anyway.
Congratulations!
You're going to get $1,200.
What are you going to do with it?
What are you going to buy?
No bread and eggs, I guess.
adam crigler
I'm sure online shops have shot through the roof, though.
tim pool
Online shops?
adam crigler
Yeah, everyone has internet still.
tim pool
There's stuff to buy.
adam crigler
And FedEx and UPS are essential, so they're still running.
People are doing their shopping online.
Which is what they've done anyway.
tim pool
But what portion of the economy is like local bars and restaurants and retail shops?
A lot.
Massive portion.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
Walgreens, CVS, Rite Aid, Duane Reade.
Nothing.
No more cash flow.
adam crigler
Well, I mean, if this is seriously the way it's going to be, like, humanity will look a lot different in about a year.
lydia smith
We will adjust, but it's going to be weird.
tim pool
I think no matter what anyone tries to do, we are going, like, you're right, it's going to be a dramatic transformation.
We're going to be fine.
adam crigler
And you know what you said yesterday, I think, it's we're going to see technological advances like we've never seen.
tim pool
Well, methodological advances.
adam crigler
Still, it's gonna happen.
tim pool
So, the way I'd explain it is, we're gonna see an application of technology not seen before.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So, one of the things that we see a lot more of is the application of drive-thrus for even medical testing.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
So now, I saw reporting that Walgreens, for instance, you can pull up to Walgreens at the pharmacy drive-thru and say, milk, bread, and eggs, please, and they'll be like, here you are, sir.
Why can't we do that now? That's a good question. And that's a methodology, not a technology,
but using a mobile app. Yeah. You can go on your phone and do milk, bread, eggs,
boop. And then they can see on the app where you are. And then they see you pulling up and
they grab the stuff and they go to the window and you pull up and they say, yeah, that's true.
adam crigler
In one of your videos earlier you said, like, you were talking about shops are still staying open because you can actually call them and be like, I would like to purchase this, please.
And they walk out and give it to you.
tim pool
Right.
adam crigler
That's pretty cool.
tim pool
But think about how, like, Uber works.
You press the app and then you're looking and you're watching the little car come to you and you're like, and they're outside.
And then you know to go outside because you see them pulling up.
The inverse is true for curbside delivery.
You go on the Best Buy app, and you're gonna be like, I need to buy this here laptop for work.
And then you pull up, and right before you get there, they see you pulling up on the street, just like you would see the driver, and they say, oh, he's pulling up.
Okay, great.
And then they walk outside, and right when you pull up, they walk outside.
Here you are, Mr. Crickler, and you wave, and you turn around, and you're gone.
adam crigler
The future is here.
tim pool
Yeah, I mean... But these are interesting changes.
I'm talking about, like, Well, we were just watching that Rick and Morty episode where they're in like the Mad Max world.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
I'm talking about like Mad Max changes.
adam crigler
Well, I mean, didn't you say something, I think yesterday, UPS is designing drones that fly at 160 miles an hour and are wind resistant.
tim pool
Yep.
adam crigler
And obviously to deliver packages, I'm assuming.
Alright, man.
tim pool
We need two things right now.
We need Boston Dynamics, right?
These are the guys who make those robots that are like people.
adam crigler
They've been making crazy waves.
It's insane.
tim pool
I demand massive government funding, alright?
Full-on communist... No, I'm kidding.
But I want them to develop that to the point where they can be fully autonomous, they can operate for 16 hours, and then we need Neuralink.
And then we create the world of surrogates.
Where we have like an avatar version of ourselves.
adam crigler
I almost watched that movie the other day.
I gotta watch it.
I'll watch it.
tim pool
I thought it was a fun movie.
It's interesting.
How cool would it be, like a ghost in the shell kind of world.
Where you have like this crazy robot body.
You could go skating and you wouldn't care.
Because you're damaging your avatar instead of... It wouldn't be the same.
adam crigler
I want to feel the pain.
tim pool
Right.
But you'd feel the rush.
adam crigler
I slammed my arm today.
I got a huge knot right here and it feels so good.
Right.
Because 10 minutes afterwards I landed the trick that I was trying to land and I was
unidentified
like yes, this is the pain that I earned this pain.
tim pool
But I'll throw this out there, slamming feels good.
It does.
adam crigler
I know, that's what I'm talking about.
tim pool
It hurts, and you're like, oh, it hurts, and you get up and you're like, yeah!
I think that's a high T thing, as opposed to the low T guys.
lydia smith
I would say so, yeah.
tim pool
It hurts.
I hate shinners.
I hate whacking my ankles.
adam crigler
I do too, yeah.
tim pool
But it feels so good.
It converts into, I don't want to call it anger.
lydia smith
It's fuel.
tim pool
But it is kind of anger.
But it is sort of like motivational fuel.
There's no one to be angry at.
adam crigler
Right.
What, are you going to be mad at the board?
Yes.
tim pool
People do that.
adam crigler
I know.
tim pool
And they smash the boards.
adam crigler
And they throw the board and it's like, he didn't do anything.
They?
lydia smith
They?
adam crigler
She?
My board's a he, so.
tim pool
Will there be skateboards in the new world?
lydia smith
I hope so.
adam crigler
Definitely.
tim pool
It's a luxury item.
adam crigler
Absolutely.
tim pool
It's a luxury item, man.
adam crigler
I mean, people, the skateboards were made on, you know, like in the backyards of people who couldn't surf.
So, check this out.
Let's loop this back to the pending Mad Max world.
the roads. So it's like, sure, it's not necessity, but it'll be a thing.
unidentified
Oh, great.
tim pool
So check this out. Let's loop this back to the pending Mad Max world.
adam crigler
Oh, great.
tim pool
When would they arrive? Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin said he expects most people
to get their payments within three weeks. As I said, what are you going to buy?
You can still buy anything, basically.
lydia smith
And when is rent due?
tim pool
Rent is due on April 1st.
adam crigler
I actually found out from a buddy of mine in Arizona that they're saying all rent can be pushed off.
tim pool
This puts a moratorium on evictions.
Okay, but listen man, but yeah, it's like rent isn't a magic vacuum. I know. Yeah, exactly
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
It's like so it does but this is really what a lot of these activists think
They think it's like if you know, I shouldn't have to pay a landlord that makes no sense
It goes along with this naive thinking of for did you know that for every one homeless person?
We have two empty houses owned by banks And it's like, and?
And invariably, it's like, well, why don't we just put the homeless people in the houses?
And you're like, because houses need to be up, you know, upkept.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
You know, they need maintenance.
There's electrical problems, coding issues.
I'm sorry, not coding issues, wiring.
Yeah. And I mean code as in like building code and law.
And if you just put someone in an empty house, are they going to eat the walls?
Is it made of gingerbread?
You can't just put a person in the house and expect to solve your problems.
Not only that, the house slowly falls apart.
Someone has to maintain it.
There has to be value there that can be exchanged through labor.
I don't like the idea of investment properties.
I get it.
People are, you know, it's kind of like buying something and then waiting for it to become more valuable when someone could actually use the house.
But if someone can't work to mow the lawn, to fix the plumbing, to fix the electrical, then the house collapses and the people get hurt and then you have a stain and a hole in the community.
adam crigler
And then another homeless is still homeless.
tim pool
And it's a cycle.
So, it's not something as simple as just snapping your fingers and saying you can do it.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So, a lot of these people are saying, why don't we freeze rent?
You realize that, like, there are employees at these rental management companies.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And they have to get paid, too.
lydia smith
My mom is one of those people.
adam crigler
Yeah, and the landlords, that's actually their jobs.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's their job.
tim pool
They manage all these properties.
adam crigler
So, if they're not getting rent, they're not getting paid.
unidentified
Right.
adam crigler
So, it's like, who are you going to choose, you know?
tim pool
But this is what I love about this argument from the activists.
They're like, landlord isn't a job.
And I'm like, when your toilet breaks, who do you call?
I call my landlord and then he gets it fixed.
Not always.
adam crigler
I pull up my sleeves.
tim pool
You have a slumlord?
adam crigler
Fix it myself.
lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
Well, sometimes you can't do that, actually.
Like, you have to inform them and let them know, otherwise they can come after you and claim you damaged something.
adam crigler
But anyway, the point is... If you don't know how to fix it right.
tim pool
If you have a slumlord... Yeah, there are laws.
Slumlords, you know, you can't do certain things.
If your electricity goes out, if the power goes out, if there's a problem with the house... Man, it's also the assumption of risk and liability.
You could rent a house and then annihilate it.
And then laugh on your way out.
And then landlord's gonna be like...
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
You're taking the risk.
You're taking the risk as a landlord.
So it is a job, especially when you maintain multiple properties.
More importantly, how many landlords are just like retirees who have like a cottage attachment or something and they rent it out and you're paying rent to them?
What about, so I've actually rented property before from some retirees and they had a mortgage on a house that was, they could only afford it on their retirement budget by renting out part of the house.
What happens if I was like, I can't pay you, and you can't evict me?
Then they're gonna be like, well, then we're gonna default on our mortgage.
Well, don't worry, they can't foreclose on you.
Yeah, but when this is all over, then what?
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
When it's all over, that's what I'm thinking about.
tim pool
What happens to the banks?
This ripples, the economy is intertwined.
And so, once rent comes due, a whole new wave of industries are gonna see what going out of business feels like.
Just like retail and stuff.
Which brings me to that first thing I brought up.
We are already seeing prices explode.
What do you think's gonna happen after the stimulus when they dump all this money into it?
They're dumping all this money into the economy.
Yeah, it's gonna result in inflation.
You can't just print money.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
So look at this.
They say sale of eggs rose 44% compared to this time last year.
Wholesale eggs are up 180%.
Milk is up about 30%.
What about bread?
Did they talk about bread?
Eggs, beef, milk, and other household staples are skyrocketing.
But they're saying this is because of panic buying.
adam crigler
I'm over here being the vegan, like, meh.
Meh.
unidentified
Meh.
tim pool
This means nothing to me.
adam crigler
Well, I feel like a lot of people are going to be vegans soon.
Oh, totally, dude.
Because there's not going to be options.
They can't get meat.
tim pool
Hold on.
adam crigler
They won't be able to get it.
tim pool
What did they buy from the store when they said to get emergency supplies?
adam crigler
Toilet paper.
tim pool
No, no, no.
Like the smart people bought food.
adam crigler
I don't know.
tim pool
What did they get?
adam crigler
Rice and beans.
tim pool
Rice and beans.
Everybody.
There was a story in the New York Times, which is really funny.
I mean, it said it's a, it's a, it's a, what do they call it?
A boon in the bean industry.
lydia smith
Bullish on beans?
tim pool
Yeah, I know.
I love my beans.
lydia smith
Yeah, man.
tim pool
Beans are great.
They're everywhere.
Like the bean industry is exploding right now.
The demand is through the roof.
adam crigler
Beans...
I love my beans.
Everybody does.
tim pool
Beans are great.
They're in chili.
You can make...
You know, you got black bean burgers.
You got beans in rice.
That's a global staple.
And you got baked beans.
Baked beans for breakfast.
You know, put some tomatoes and have a British breakfast.
lydia smith
I love it.
tim pool
Mushrooms, baked beans, tomato slices, some blood pudding.
lydia smith
Not bad.
unidentified
Oh yeah, dude.
adam crigler
No thanks.
Do you like it?
You like blood pudding?
tim pool
Yeah.
It's like a sausage patty, whatever.
I don't know.
It's not like I eat it all the time.
It's like a British thing.
lydia smith
Don't scrutinize it.
Yeah.
tim pool
But the funny thing is, so earlier today I was trying to get egg substitute because we want to be able to bake, right?
So for all you watching, if we want to make like a bread or like pancakes or something, I can't put eggs in the closet.
You got to go to the store to get eggs.
And I was like, well, that's fine.
Is there something I can buy that's like an egg substitute that lasts longer?
It's vegan.
Boom.
The egg, so it's not about the substitute, it's about longevity.
So there's like powdered eggs.
But I was looking for something that can last for a long time that we could put in the closet.
And it's like a chickpea ground thing.
You mix a little bit of water and it works for baking for eggs.
Yeah, it does.
adam crigler
So I think- I've had that stuff before.
tim pool
I'm not- It's good.
adam crigler
It works.
tim pool
I will make the assumption you're being a bit facetious when you say everyone will be vegan.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But boy is the consumption of meat gonna go down.
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah.
It's gonna be- No, it definitely was.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
But I do think that- More people will probably be vegan.
It's not that they're gonna choose.
It's just because they have no choice.
There's gonna be no meat available.
There's gonna be no eggs.
There's no milk.
tim pool
The price is gonna be expensive.
adam crigler
Yeah.
And it's gonna go back to, you know, a hundred years ago when it was a rich man's thing to eat meat all the time because it was expensive.
Because it wasn't readily available in every single store everywhere that it was an easy thing to get access to, you know?
tim pool
I gotta be pessimistic right now.
adam crigler
Oh man, again.
tim pool
Is it possible for us to even stop this thing?
adam crigler
Yeah.
I think so.
tim pool
The coronavirus?
adam crigler
It's not killing everybody.
tim pool
That's because we've shut the economy down.
adam crigler
But it wasn't killing everyone anyway, before we did that, right?
No, no, no, no, no.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
I'm not saying every human's gonna die.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
I'm saying, I mean, the mortality rate could be like 15%.
I know.
Is it possible to even stop it?
If they're saying it's gonna be two years of us locking down, Will our economy even survive if that's the case?
It'll adapt, maybe.
Humans adapt.
adam crigler
I don't know, man.
It's a scary... It feels like we're standing on a cliff, and I'm just looking down.
And I turn around, and everyone's just charging towards me.
It's like, uh-oh.
This is where we're gonna go, down this cliff.
tim pool
So the Senate passes this $2 trillion thing.
And all of a sudden now, what do we hear?
Why don't we get universal health care?
We were able to pull two trillion dollars out of thin air, right?
Not realizing the damage that will come with rapidly injecting all that money from the money machine.
adam crigler
That's what no one really wants to think about.
You know, what happens after everything.
You know, they're only worried about right now.
What about right now?
It's like, okay, well, you have to think about the consequences of everything that happens, you know?
tim pool
And no one does.
No one does, ever!
adam crigler
No one does.
tim pool
They think about the first... This is the way I always explain it.
Like, I was playing chess since I was a little kid.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And especially as, you know, both of us, we play Magic.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
We're always thinking about, if I do this, what might they do?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And if they do that, what might I do in response?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Most people don't think that far.
That's true.
Imagine someone's playing poker and they go, I have two aces.
I'm all in.
And you're like, I have three twos.
And they go, I didn't think about the possibility of someone having three twos.
Yeah.
It's like you get two aces and you don't pay attention to what's on the board.
And so you're laughing.
And then two twos are there.
And the guy goes, oh, I have one two.
That gives me three twos.
I win.
I beat your pocket aces.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
They don't think.
So yeah.
lydia smith
So I know it's going to happen.
So you're right.
They don't think past stage one.
This is something that I complain about endlessly.
But what's going to happen is they're going to inject the economy with cash.
Bad things are going to happen.
You know, they're just going to blame the other party.
We didn't do enough.
We did not do enough.
tim pool
That's what they said last time.
lydia smith
We could have done all this.
tim pool
They said in the 20s.
lydia smith
Exactly.
tim pool
So Pelosi's, uh, Nancy Pelosi, you know, she's like basically the leader of the Democrats is saying the next one's going to be bigger with more money.
adam crigler
The next stimulus package.
tim pool
You have everyone on the right and the left saying it's not enough.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And I'm sitting here thinking, like, I hear you, man.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Because people lost their jobs overnight.
Yeah.
3.3 million unemployment claims.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
How are you going to pay rent?
The economy's on fire.
And so everyone's like, get me money now.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
I know where this goes.
I've been to these countries, man.
And if and if we if we do a two trillion stimulus on top of the past two.
So I don't know.
I don't know the hard numbers.
I heard someone mentioned six million at one point.
But if Pelosi's got a $2.5 trillion, and it's just like, let's just dump money in, you know, into the sewer, is that really going to solve anyone's problems?
adam crigler
Well, what is?
tim pool
It's like you were saying, it's a kiss on a boo-boo.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
You know, it helps a little bit.
You know, you're a little kid, you stub your toe.
adam crigler
There are some people that it's going to help for months, you know.
Right.
But then there's people in the city that twelve hundred dollars is literally nothing.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
I understand that.
But I mean, in the short term, we're going to be sitting back being like, whoo, thank thank heavens.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And then a year from now, people are going to be like milk costs ten dollars.
Yeah.
So I guess the bigger issue though is, MIT and Harvard have both said two years.
I hope they're wrong.
adam crigler
I hope so too.
tim pool
Because the bigger question is, if we're deluding ourselves that we can get a handle on this thing, then all we're doing is making things worse before it gets even worse.
But I don't know, man.
Here's the issue.
Nobody wants to be the person who's gonna say, open the floodgates.
And then take the responsibility for everyone dying.
Nobody would do it.
lydia smith
This is such a rock and a hard place.
There is no right answer.
tim pool
There's just like- People are gonna get hurt.
Yep.
lydia smith
I don't know what to do.
adam crigler
So which option gives us less deaths?
tim pool
That's what everyone's trying to figure out.
And so it's funny because when Trump and Republicans and other people come out and say we need to get this economy started as soon as possible, the other side just accuses them of trying to sacrifice people for corporate profit.
It's such a naive and childish way of viewing the world.
They're not looking at it like, corporate profit to line our pockets.
Are you joking?
Rich people can't buy anything if there's nothing to buy.
Nobody wants to just have the money because worthless money, you know... You can't eat money.
Right.
And what people really want is access to labor.
That's the true value of money for the most part.
Resources and labor.
And if nobody's working, why would it matter?
So that's what's really happening.
It's like, listen man.
If the economy isn't moving, supplies won't be delivered to these hospitals and people will die anyway.
Not only that, if people can't eat or live, they die.
The economy has to keep moving.
adam crigler
So what do you think?
Should Trump open it up in two weeks?
April 12th?
Easter?
You know, it's like, it sounds like he's going, he's like, you know what?
We need to get the economy going.
I'm going to open it up.
And people already hate him anyway.
So what's the difference?
tim pool
Yeah, he can, he can be that person.
adam crigler
Well, you either love him or you hate him, you know, but it's like, you know what though?
tim pool
He's, he's, he, at this point, his, uh, his approval rating is higher than it's ever been.
It's in the aggregate.
He's shattered the record.
And when it comes to coronavirus, most Americans support him.
This is unheard of for his presidency.
Right.
adam crigler
So if he says, let's open it up.
tim pool
He did.
And the polls skyrocketed.
Dude, let me see if I can pull something up.
adam crigler
Okay.
Yeah, it's going to be interesting.
It feels like he knows what needs to happen, because we need to get it going.
tim pool
We need to get the economy- It went up even more since I talked about it earlier today.
Check this out.
See this huge spike?
adam crigler
Boom.
Oh, I see.
tim pool
Okay.
unidentified
47.1.
tim pool
When I first recorded my segment earlier today, it was at 47, so it even went up just a little bit.
Now his disapproval rate is 49.6, but take a look at where his disapproval was throughout his presidency.
See this huge spike?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
That is a big spike, wow.
That's what people want.
of days that led to a huge, huge spike.
Yeah.
adam crigler
Well, to be fair, it is a big spike.
tim pool
When we look at the past few polls, they're still negative and the positive ones are like
Gallup Emerson.
But yeah, Trump in the aggregate over the past few days has skyrocketed around the same
time he said, I'm going to get you back to work.
That's what I think.
I think we know what the people want to do.
It's not just that his approval rating is on a variety of factors.
But if we look specifically at job approval on coronavirus, this is where it's like, okay,
I think the people want Trump to do his thing.
It's not going to load, is it?
lydia smith
This site is ridiculous.
tim pool
I like real clear politics, but yeah, it can be... Sometimes they refresh on you.
Check this out.
Gallup has him plus 22.
His approval rating on the coronavirus is 49.6 and disapproval is 45.
He's got the majority of Americans on his side for this one right now.
Look at this.
Fox from the 21st to the 24th.
Plus 5.
Well, I'm pretty sure that's what the time period has been talking about, getting people back to work, right?
adam crigler
And seeing the media twist everything and everyone has no time on their hands but to watch the media.
tim pool
Yeah, dude, that's a really good point.
adam crigler
Just like a bunch of hogwash.
It's like, okay, we see what's happening.
We are watching Trump.
I didn't even think about that.
Now you're telling this.
It's like, all right, well, I guess what you've been saying to me is wrong.
lydia smith
This has all been a lie.
adam crigler
And he's saying some stuff I agree with.
tim pool
That's why they're freaking out.
That's what I was talking about on my main channel.
So the main point I was making earlier today is that Trump's doing these daily press briefings and his polls are just skyrocketing.
I mean, look at that spike.
That is just a boom!
adam crigler
Unsubstantiated hope.
It's like, get out of here.
tim pool
This is crazy.
I saw this huge spike.
Donald Trump comes out and says, we're going to get you back to work.
We have potential treatments.
We're working on this.
And the American people are clapping.
Not everybody, but a lot of people.
And you were right.
Because nobody's working, they're sitting at home watching TV.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
And they see the media lie.
And they see Trump say, I'm working for you.
And people are starting to go, I like that.
adam crigler
And they're watching the media change throughout the days.
They go one way, they go the other way, they go the other way, and then people are like, what?
We're paying attention now.
tim pool
You want to know what my favorite is?
adam crigler
What?
tim pool
Man, this really, really pissed me off.
This is why I did the segment I did earlier today on my main channel about the media's freaking out.
The New York Times wrote about the conundrum the media faces with Trump being a liar.
They said that he encouraged unproven drugs, which led to an Arizona man dying.
adam crigler
God, that whole thing is so stupid.
tim pool
He never encouraged anyone to take anything.
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
But here's the thing.
Andrew Cuomo did too, and beyond this.
Andrew Cuomo of New York said, we're going into clinical trials for this.
adam crigler
Yeah, he was basically saying exactly the same thing that Trump did.
tim pool
And what did the New York Times write about Cuomo?
adam crigler
He's a hero.
tim pool
He's the politician of the moment who's bringing empathy and strength into his press conferences.
adam crigler
Yeah.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
I was livid, man.
lydia smith
It's stark.
adam crigler
It's just a different version.
tim pool
It's insane.
adam crigler
He's just a different version of Trump to me.
tim pool
Look, man.
lydia smith
But the story is like, you can clearly see them saying Trump is wrong to say this is a good idea, and then turning around and saying Cuomo is a hero for suggesting this idea.
tim pool
Well, they didn't say that.
That's a bit much.
They didn't say it like that.
They didn't specifically say, Cuomo, encourage this drug, what a good person.
adam crigler
Well, Cuomo and Trump literally said the exact same thing, that they're testing this drug, and it's promising, and it's actually working.
tim pool
And then when the guy put a spoonful of fish cleaner in his, and drank it, they blamed Trump instead of the media or Cuomo.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
lydia smith
So people are watching this now.
adam crigler
Actually, and you know, if you, if you look through the reports, it wasn't actually what Trump was saying.
She was like in the interview with this, with the woman that survived it, but her husband passed away.
She was saying that she saw his press press, the, you know, the press conference, and then it was reported in the media multiple times over and over and over again.
tim pool
And that's when she was like, they found information online.
adam crigler
Interesting.
Right.
She then made the connection, you know, because Trump, it was a medicinal thing.
Then they, they've just kept saying the word over and over again.
Well, Trump's got this, he's saying that there's this drug, you know, blah, blah, blah.
And there's chances.
So it's like, they've just keep repeating it.
And that's where she got it from.
tim pool
You know what I think insulated me from the orange man, bad Trump derangement syndrome is that I was covering a lot of what Obama was doing.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
Yeah.
Yeah.
If you were to call.
Okay. And so when all of a sudden Trump started doing things that weren't as bad or were similar,
I was like, I'm confused. Why are you angry? Yeah. Everyone was praising Obama. You voted for that
guy twice. He's the one who built those cages in like, you know, Homestead, Florida or whatever.
Yeah. He's the one who sent the drones overseas. I'm not saying Trump is good. I'm saying like,
I don't understand why you're mad all of a sudden. Right. I thought you guys were for this stuff.
Right. And so it was like confusing me.
I'm like, what?
It's really crazy.
adam crigler
Herd mentality.
tim pool
It's really crazy to me that I'm grateful that this can exist.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Like that we can sit here and be like, can you seriously name, you know, the average person can't name a single thing they don't like about the president other than he's a potty mouth and he's like a gross dude or something.
adam crigler
Or that he's a liar.
Okay.
But what is he lied about?
tim pool
I don't know.
He lies about silly things, for sure.
adam crigler
True.
tim pool
He says the quiet part loud and the loud part quiet.
adam crigler
Yeah, but I've actually since started following him on Twitter, and he's like a professional troll.
tim pool
He is!
adam crigler
I swear he knows what he's doing.
tim pool
He does!
lydia smith
He's got to push buttons.
tim pool
Of course he does.
adam crigler
Exactly.
He's putting this stuff out going, ha ha, they're going to eat this up, and they're going to be distracted by it.
tim pool
Covfefe.
adam crigler
Covfefe, yeah, exactly.
tim pool
After that, when the media went nuts, he rolled into it.
adam crigler
He knows what he's doing.
lydia smith
Yeah, he knows.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's true.
There's different tweets.
He's got his serious tweets, and then he's like, I'm totally messing with your tweets.
And those are always the ones that the media hits up.
They're like, whoa, look what he said this time.
And it's like, of course you logged onto that one.
tim pool
Here's the thing about him.
He's done some bad stuff.
He's gotten a lot of criticism for the easy go-tos, missile strike in Syria, weapons in Saudi Arabia.
adam crigler
And the environmental.
tim pool
Environmental restrictions.
Removing environmental regulations.
And so there's things to criticize the guy for.
But when I look to any other president, like Obama and the Dakota Access Pipeline, he was doing the same thing, man.
They called him the deporter-in-chief.
I don't care.
I'm ambivalent.
It's the same old, same old.
adam crigler
Every president's going to abuse their power a little bit.
tim pool
Well no, it's just they do what they think.
adam crigler
I'm sure they will.
tim pool
I don't think they're doing it because they're evil like mustache twirling.
I think they're like, I gotta do this for the good of the country.
This is the thing that must be done.
adam crigler
Or that lobbyist paid me way, a lot of money that I need to follow through on the promise that I made.
tim pool
But everyone's the hero of their own story.
They justify it in their minds.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
They're like, this is the right thing to do.
It makes sense.
Yes.
So, when it comes to Trump, you have this extreme, irrational hatred.
Trump Derangement Syndrome, Trump Anxiety Disorder, whatever you want to call it.
The actual physicians call it Trump Anxiety Disorder.
There are real reasons to criticize the guy, and there are real reasons to want to vote for someone else.
But what you see in the media is so thick.
It's like, the, the, the, the, man.
adam crigler
Yeah, but I'd rather have someone with some brains instead of no brains.
tim pool
Oh, Biden.
adam crigler
It feels like he's checked out a long time ago.
To hear my hippie friends... Just don't know.
tim pool
My friends are like, I can't vote for Biden, man.
And I'm like, who are you going to vote for?
And they're like...
Trump, I guess.
I'm like, what?
lydia smith
What is happening?
adam crigler
He's not talking about me, by the way.
unidentified
Not you, no.
tim pool
What really bothers me about the whole thing is that Joe Biden, for instance, was just credibly accused.
I don't know if you heard this.
adam crigler
I watched your video, yeah.
tim pool
He was credibly accused.
adam crigler
And then I saw all the videos that you brought up about all how cringy he is with women.
tim pool
Cringy?
Dude.
adam crigler
Gropey?
Gropey?
Which is cringy.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
tim pool
Here we are, planning a show that we originally were talking about the silliness of Sonic the Hedgehog.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And we're having a blast with it.
And we got 200,000 views.
I'm like, dude, this is awesome.
adam crigler
You know what the one rule he gave me?
He was like, yo, we're going to do the show.
It's going to be awesome.
I've got one rule.
We're not allowed to say the word Democrat or Republican.
And I was like, yes, because I know nothing about politics.
And I was like, I don't believe in any of that.
It's real.
tim pool
But here's the thing.
adam crigler
Look where we are.
tim pool
It's true.
And I said, we will talk a little bit about politics, like it'll pop up, but we'll avoid saying the D and the R word because we want to make this more about like what regular people are up to, what's fun.
And now here we are.
And the world has just like, dude, you hit the nail on the head.
We're all stuck at home.
We're forced to watch this stuff.
There's no other news.
And we are seeing all of the lies in real time.
And now people in the polls are seeing it too.
They're like, Trump didn't tell anybody to eat fish cleaner.
adam crigler
Trump's a lot like Obama.
tim pool
So here's the thing, and this has been like a meme.
Actually, the meme I was going to bring up is that people like to go up to random people and say, why do you hate Trump?
And they can't give you a reason.
But here's the better point.
People who are online on say like YouTube or Twitter or social media who are active and searching for the news will find, will gravitate towards honest conversations, Joe Rogan, you know, Dave Rubin, Jordan Peterson.
adam crigler
Or someone like you and me.
tim pool
Perhaps.
Honest conversations.
I don't need to mention myself.
There are people who exist who do a great job of it.
adam crigler
No, that's what I'm here for.
I got you, bro.
tim pool
There you go.
Thanks, buddy.
I got you.
lydia smith
Honest conversations.
tim pool
With Soy Jesus.
So here's the thing.
If you're somebody who cares about the news, and you read a bunch of stories, and you're like, whoa, I can't believe it's happening.
And then you turn on a show like ours, and we say a variety of like, here's what the media claimed, here's what actually happened, here are the polls.
You're like, It's confirmation bias, but because the people who read the news and know what happened... Like, how many times have we got superchats or comments where they corrected us?
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
And they told us, it's because everybody watching and us are people who are actively paying attention to the news.
lydia smith
These are my people.
tim pool
Not everybody.
I don't want to say everybody, because I know a lot of people are like, you know, after I get off work, I like to turn your show on because I trust you or something like that.
unidentified
Silly.
tim pool
But what about the other side?
The people who just blindly hate Trump?
You can dislike him, you can criticize him.
I'm fairly ambivalent.
I think he's a really funny guy, I gotta be honest.
adam crigler
But do your own research.
But when they don't... On all things, do your own research.
tim pool
But these people don't do research.
adam crigler
I can't stress that enough.
I know, exactly.
tim pool
They turn on MSNBC... Herd mentality.
They turn on MSNBC and they sit back.
Mm-hmm, and they love it So I don't like I'm not a big fan of Hannity or Laura Ingram I don't watch any but I like Tucker Carlson.
You know why he's right.
Yeah, I don't always agree with his opinions But he has on opposition right and he's in front of this like he was talking about this stuff in January.
Yeah, and And the other hosts weren't so much.
They tend to be kind of like bombastic tribalist pundits.
I'm not trying to give beef to them necessarily, but I don't like Rachel Maddow either.
I don't like MSNBC.
adam crigler
I've seen so much of her stuff float around and it's always just ridiculous.
tim pool
Oh, she's insane.
It's so bonkers.
I gotta say, it is unfair of me to compare Hannity and Laura Ingram to Rachel Maddow.
That is not fair at all.
Because Hannity and Laura are bombastic.
adam crigler
These names don't mean anything to me.
tim pool
Oh, they're pundits, right?
adam crigler
Yeah, they're just pundits.
I get that.
I don't know.
I don't know anything about these people.
You don't have to.
It's the media, and I don't trust the media.
I like to find out the information myself, read the actual scientific proof.
That's the kind of person I am.
tim pool
So here's the thing.
I did a segment on this last year.
It's not about just reading a news source, it's about reading it, and then finding their source, and verifying the information.
And there was one story, I can't remember what it was about, it was about Ocasio-Cortez, and it was a news article that referenced a tweet, that referenced an activist blog, that referenced an article, and I had to dig down to find the source, and of course it was fake news.
adam crigler
So it's like a media game of telephone.
Where they slowly change the story to finally get to the media and it's like they're talking about a purple elevator.
lydia smith
Yeah, and you start out talking about like a bathtub or something.
tim pool
Don't even get me started, man.
adam crigler
Okay.
Wait, wait, wait.
People love your rants.
Rant.
Tim.
unidentified
Rant.
lydia smith
Go for it.
adam crigler
Who wants a Tim rant?
tim pool
It's a story everybody probably knows.
adam crigler
Everybody wants a Tim rant.
tim pool
This guy from NBC, because I got invited to the White House, He wrote a story about the people who were invited to the White House, and because the narrative had to be specifically that the only people invited are fringe wackos, this activist who works for NBC who purports to be a journalist wrote that Tim Pool, who pushed the Seth Rich conspiracy theory and then linked to an activist blog post that showed a clip of me out of context,
And then use that as evidence, and then all of a sudden, dozens of other outlets started just copy and pasting.
And so I started hitting them up, saying like, Ooh, it's working!
lydia smith
Let's spread it!
tim pool
It's just cheap plagiarism.
It's churnalism.
That's what it's called.
adam crigler
Churn.
Is that what it is?
tim pool
Yes.
adam crigler
Just churning it out.
tim pool
So, one outlet saw NBC, and then just copied their article and rewrote it.
And then the guy from NBC removed the evidence, Oh, cytogenesis.
what it was actually because they all started sourcing each other.
It's called, uh, the guy from XKCD calls it cytogenesis, kind of, where it's this phenomenon
on Wikipedia where someone will see fake news and then write a Wikipedia article and cite
fake news.
Oh, cite.
lydia smith
I was like, how cytogenesis?
tim pool
And then someone from like Buzzfeed will see it in Wikipedia and then write, on Wikipedia
they claim this.
And then someone from Deadline will write, it's a known fact that this.
And then someone on Wikipedia will say, this source you've used is bunk, can you give me a better source?
And he'll say, yes, here's Deadline.
It's cytogenesis.
It happens all the time.
So this guy writes a fake story and here's the best part.
The Today Show aired it with a big ol' picture of me on NBC.
They showed a big ol' picture of my face and says, this is a guy who's been pushing the Seth Rich conspiracy theories.
Never happened.
lydia smith
Dude, I don't remember that.
tim pool
I've never pushed the Seth Rich conspiracy theory stuff.
lydia smith
Holy cow.
tim pool
I was always skeptical.
I always said, let's be real, stuff like this never happens.
You know, the likelihood this is real.
It was around the time that Kim.com claimed he had evidence that Seth Rich was the WikiLeaks source.
And I said, well, he's saying it.
And Fox News just came out with a story confirming that they found evidence of this.
Eh, I'll give it a 68% chance.
Come on guys, let's be real.
Stuff like this never turns out to be true.
What did they take?
A snippet of me being like, I don't know, I'll give it a 68% chance.
And then claim Tim Pool pushes the conspiracy theory by saying the Fox News story, which was definitively posted, and they retracted it later.
adam crigler
Of course it was.
tim pool
Well, I thought it was real.
A lot of people thought it was real.
And they retracted it.
Yeah, there was an investigator guy.
And it's like, not only that, it's like, dude, I was in my living room back when I had like no YouTube subscribers.
I had like, you know, 5,000 or whatever.
And I did a live stream and I was just, someone asked me about it.
I'm like, I don't know a whole lot about it, but I saw this story.
Wow.
Yeah, maybe.
And then once my channel did well, they dug through all of my history and said, boom, Tim Pool's a conspiracy theorist.
adam crigler
Boom, we got him.
tim pool
That's the media's game.
lydia smith
That's all they got you on?
tim pool
They're vultures.
They are vultures.
Well, the Wikipedia editors weren't having any of it.
Like, someone went in and tried to add it.
And then the editors were like, get this bunk up out of here.
Actually, it was a huge debate.
It was like, whether or not I was a conspiracy theorist or not.
And it's like, so insane.
The craziest thing to me is how they use that as a weapon against you.
And so it's like, if you go to any counterculture or There's a bunch of... I don't know, I guess counterculture is the easiest way to say it.
Their Wikipedia pages are just loaded with complete BS.
And so, I've gone... There's a bunch of journalists who do, like, news organization stuff and, like, conferences, and I've repeatedly said to them, why won't you call this out?
Give you an example.
BuzzFeed wrote a story, Man Dies at Popeyes and Fight Over Chicken Sandwich.
Never happened.
They made it up because a story about two black men fighting to the death over fried chicken was clickbait.
The real story?
They were at Popeyes.
A guy cut in line.
Someone called him out.
The guy said, take it outside.
And they went outside.
He knifed him in the chest real quick and ran off.
Nobody was fighting over a sandwich.
It was senseless violence.
This stuff happens all the time.
adam crigler
That was during the Popeye chicken sandwich craze?
tim pool
Technically.
adam crigler
You think Popeye's paid them under the table for that?
tim pool
Well, that was a conspiracy theory.
adam crigler
Oh, really?
tim pool
That Popeye's put out a statement specifically because they wanted the story to exist that two men fought to the death over the sandwich.
That's how good it was.
I'm not kidding.
I'm not saying it's true, but there are people on social media believing that.
adam crigler
I was just joking.
tim pool
I don't think that's true.
You want to know what?
adam crigler
No way.
tim pool
I got no problem saying this.
I reached out to Ben Smith of BuzzFeed, and I said, hey, this story's not real.
And then he sent me a quote, the police saying they believe that this had something to do with the release of the Popeye's chicken sandwich.
And I said, that doesn't prove it's real.
lydia smith
That put them in the restaurant at the same time, that was it.
tim pool
Right.
And I said to him, I'm vaguely remembering, I don't want to, you know, but I remember saying something to him, this was over Twitter, that The dude's family came out and said, nobody, his cousin was like, ain't nobody died over a chicken sandwich, this is BS, the media's lying.
And they were lying, I know.
adam crigler
And didn't you tell me that they're not even that good?
I didn't like it.
I never tried it.
tim pool
I didn't like it.
I like Chick-fil-A better.
adam crigler
For obvious reasons, but.
tim pool
But he refused to correct it.
The story's up to this day.
And so here's what I did.
adam crigler
Because it still clicks.
tim pool
So, NewsGuard.
adam crigler
People click on it.
tim pool
NewsGuard is the service that I use.
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
NewsGuard.
Actually, we can pull it up.
I can show you guys.
lydia smith
Yeah, let's look at it.
tim pool
So, this thing right here, you'll see the checkmark.
Real clear politics gets green across the board, except they don't label their advertising really well.
I mean, is that fair?
adam crigler
Yeah, it's just white boxes.
tim pool
I mean, sure, whatever.
lydia smith
It's like a full nutrition panel or whatever.
tim pool
Maybe there's articles or whatever.
adam crigler
Well, it's not like clearly different because it's like a white border, so it kind of flows in.
tim pool
You know what?
unidentified
Whatever.
adam crigler
I mean, I could see why.
tim pool
Here, take a look at this.
I use this as it's a sort of a credibility check for myself.
It's a shield for me that if you want to claim I'm being biased by using bad sources, I only use sources when they're certified by an organization that I find to be biased.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
News Guard's actually not that bad, but I got an email from them and they were like, you know, the trolls are trying to give us a bad rating.
Whenever they give a news website a red exclamation point, these sites, not all of them, will encourage their readers to go and downrank NewsGuard.
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
Seriously.
tim pool
In the App Store.
lydia smith
Yeah, dude.
tim pool
And so I got an email saying, because they were like, you know, it was like a general email.
Like, supporters, please go and help us.
And I was like, okay.
And I gave them a two out of five.
And I wrote, it's because they give BuzzFeed green checkmarks across the board, except for the difference between, like they say they don't handle the difference between opinion and responsibility, I'm sorry, opinion and news responsibly.
I think they do.
And I said, they'll give the Daily Wire, which is Ben Shapiro's outlet, all X's, because they wrote two or three bad stories.
lydia smith
Because of a difference in opinion.
tim pool
Because of a difference in opinion.
And then they'll give BuzzFeed green checkmarks across the board, even though BuzzFeed's literally made stuff up.
The problem is, these organizations By default, believe BuzzFeed to be credible, and so they use BuzzFeed to fact-check other organizations.
adam crigler
Oh man.
tim pool
Right.
adam crigler
When BuzzFeed's making stuff up.
tim pool
Exactly.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And so here's what happens.
They say, the Washington Post is a good, credible source.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
So, we don't need to actually... So here's what'll happen.
Let's say I wrote a story that said, that fight over the chicken sandwich is fake news, BuzzFeed's lying.
They'll go to BuzzFeed, and they'll say, hmm, no, BuzzFeed says it's true.
Tim Pool is lying.
And they'll give me the X. Wow.
That's how it works with the bias in these systems.
So, you know, BuzzFeed and all these other, and like the Daily Beast has written so much fake crap.
I know for a fact, because I was actually on the ground at several of these events they wrote about, and I'm like, they made that up?
They straight made stuff up?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And then I reach out to the news guard and I say, why won't you call them out?
I reached out to people at the Online News Association.
None of them will do anything.
They don't care.
And they know it.
I reached out to the former editor-in-chief of BuzzFeed News personally.
I know Ben.
I've been to the BuzzFeed offices and hanging out with him.
I saw him on the way to Davos, the World Economic Forum, years ago.
We've talked.
He's in one of my videos.
And so I hit him up and said, you need to correct this.
And he said, no.
adam crigler
Yeah, because the media isn't about getting the news out there, the real news.
tim pool
Nah, it's clicks.
adam crigler
It's about getting people to their site so that they can make more ad revenue.
tim pool
I'll clarify.
I don't think he... Like, it's been a while since we talked, he didn't directly say like, I refuse to correct or something.
He just said, the police said it was related to it, we're good.
And the headline says... It sounds like a brush off.
adam crigler
In a fight over... And basically saying no.
tim pool
And when I did that review for NewsGuard, I responded to the email saying, just to let you know, you requested it, I gave it to you, I gave you a 2 out of 5 and here's why.
They emailed me back saying, I respect, you know, you've talked about us, but I don't think it's fair.
You give Media Matters green checkmarks across the board.
I don't know what that is.
Media Matters, it's an activist organization that it's just basically if you're conservative or right-wing, they'll lie about you.
My favorite, and this was funny because the Wikipedia editors wigged out on how insane it was.
Media Matters wrote that I pushed a conspiracy theory that Ilhan Omar may have married her brother.
She's a Democratic congresswoman.
adam crigler
I did hear about this.
tim pool
But what they showed on the page was me looking at the Star Tribune that said she may have married a man who may be her brother.
adam crigler
That was their reference?
tim pool
So here's the best part.
They said, Tim Pool falsely claimed that the Star Tribune claimed that Ilhan Omar may have married her brother and they showed a picture of me with my face in the corner and the newspaper for the Star Tribune with a sentence I was reading.
I didn't falsely claim anything.
I read a sentence off the newspaper.
lydia smith
And you can literally see it on your screen.
tim pool
And so somebody tried using the source from Media Matters saying Timble is a conspiracy
theorist on Wikipedia and they were like, I clicked that and they're claiming that a
paper he read was a false attribution but they showed the paper he was reading.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
That's how insane they are.
And they get green checkmarks as credible.
That's NewsGuard.
adam crigler
So why, I mean you started by saying you use NewsGuard because you want to have your stuff
checked but it's clear to me that they are biased.
lydia smith
Totally.
adam crigler
So how do you know that it's even worth using them at all?
tim pool
If NewsGuard wants to come to me and give me a red checkmark or whatever and accuse me, I'm gonna laugh.
I'm gonna be like, why bro?
I only use sites you've approved.
adam crigler
Oh, that's funny.
Is that the only reason?
Because it sounds like their checkmarks mean nothing.
tim pool
People like Media Matters using that, you know, smear against me, that's how they weaponize it.
They try to claim, you know, you're pushing a fake news website.
It's like, don't look at me, man.
If NewsGuard says it's good, I use it.
So I used the Center for Immigration Studies as a source once, and a bunch of progressives started claiming I was using alt-right propaganda.
And I'm just like, don't look at me, man.
NewsGuard said they're certified factual and correct.
End of story.
Don't care.
Brush it off.
adam crigler
The perfect scapegoat.
It's not me.
They approved it.
unidentified
It's true, though.
adam crigler
I know.
I don't know these things.
I know exactly what I'm saying.
tim pool
What were you saying?
adam crigler
I think we should move to Super Chats.
tim pool
Yeah, we got into a ranty.
But hey, it was better than just complaining about Morgz again, right?
adam crigler
Yes, moving it forward.
tim pool
All right, all of our Super Chat friends, we got... Shout out to the comments.
adam crigler
What up, everybody?
How you doing?
tim pool
We got way too many.
We got so many.
adam crigler
That's cool.
Good news!
tim pool
Good news!
adam crigler
I found beanies.
unidentified
Yes, he did!
adam crigler
Somebody hit me up today and sent me a website that is beanies.
And this is the craziest part.
It's in our town.
tim pool
Local.
adam crigler
It's local, in our town.
I don't have to leave the township.
It's like two miles from us.
So is that not crazy?
And it's made in America.
Solid beanies.
Beanies are coming!
tim pool
And the reason we know that it's meant to be Is that amidst the global crisis where we're not allowed to go out or do anything?
Yeah.
It's nearby, only a few miles away.
adam crigler
Literally, I could drive there.
tim pool
So we don't got to worry about travel.
It's crazy.
Like what?
lydia smith
So meant to be.
tim pool
But we'll see.
adam crigler
Beanie hype!
It's real.
It's real.
tim pool
We'll see.
We are in, you know, this, this, this shutdown.
So, uh, let's, let's hit these super chats.
If you're, if you're just tuning in or if you haven't yet hit that like button, tell YouTube that we're awesome so that YouTube doesn't ban us or whatever.
lydia smith
Yes, I will do that.
adam crigler
Yes.
tim pool
King Canuck says, Have a good show, fellas.
First.
We are having a good show.
adam crigler
Yes, we are.
tim pool
I appreciate the ranting about the media.
I love it.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Because I hate them so much.
They're such evil people.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Atham.
Thanks for the super chat.
Just us.
Welcome to the apocalypse.
You betcha.
David says, We must boycott China.
Pressure corpse to move out.
adam crigler
USA beanies.
tim pool
Well, boycott's strong, but we definitely need to get out of China.
For the environment, even.
So, I had a buddy who said that skateboarding, he quit skateboarding.
He said it was the most destructive thing on the planet.
Exaggeration.
But that's where he started telling me about how We cut down trees in Canada, send to China, and then ship them back, and it takes such an amazing amount of energy.
It's just so destructive for the environment.
He was like, the amount of carbon those things pump out, plus cutting the trees down?
He's like, I can't do it.
And I was like, why don't we just make the skateboards here?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You got that sweet, cheap Chinese labor, man.
Yeah, but I think we should.
I'll pay more for a board if it's made in America.
lydia smith
Yeah, man.
tim pool
Lance says, what if the only the NPC dying?
I'm not quite sure what you meant, sorry.
Sev says, Tim and Co, can you please theorize and visualize our economy if permanently affected by the coronavirus, whether by severity or duration?
This is one of the things that I was kind of thinking like, if we go into this two year period of on and off, we'll see new businesses emerge that you've never even thought of.
I can't even conceptualize.
There'll be like, dude, we will have lock-up parties where it's like, there'll probably be warehouses where they're like, come in for the month, man.
We lock the doors, we got all the food you want, we party, we hang out.
unidentified
That'd be cool.
tim pool
There will be, and then there will be open up parties where it'll be like, you know,
the shutdown ends on the first and then we have a major massive party.
Stuff like that.
That'd be crazy stuff.
Huge, like block parties.
Yeah, because people get sick.
adam crigler
I wouldn't want to go.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Holly says, we should have American workforce wear respirators.
If we have enough, Winter Walker says, Tim, at what point are you going to bug out?
What's your criteria for that decision?
I don't know.
adam crigler
I don't know.
tim pool
The armed banditos roaming the neighborhood, maybe?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Because we could even do this show from the van.
We could get, like, a table and, like, it would not be as high quality, you know?
But we can talk into microphones anywhere.
adam crigler
That's true.
lydia smith
It's true, we can.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's true.
tim pool
Live even.
UnXin says, do you think the crisis and the panic gun buying will have a lasting effect
on those who didn't understand the value of 2A or will it all revert?
It will.
You see that viral video of the gun store guy who was yelling, you first time gun buyers
unidentified
coming in here, you don't understand, you can't just get it, you gotta wait 10 days.
Next time someone tries taking away your stuff, you'll fight back.
tim pool
And I was like, all of these people in these urban centers who are scrambling to buy guns.
Yeah, too bad.
You held your tongue and didn't care when all these politicians, could you imagine what would have happened if they passed like a couple, like it was last year they wanted to do the assault weapons ban, would have banned like handguns and stuff.
lydia smith
Dude.
tim pool
People would be like, what do you mean?
I can't own a handgun.
Like, that's right.
They're assault weapons.
adam crigler
I don't know.
lydia smith
Oh, that would have woken them up.
That would have thrown them for a loop.
tim pool
And I'm sure they're already thrown for a loop.
lydia smith
Yeah, for sure.
tim pool
Going to a gun store and the guy's like, no.
Like, what do you mean no?
It's like, here's the law.
And they're like, but I don't understand.
Well, then vote Republican.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, I think like even like Joe Rogan's big on 2A, right?
lydia smith
I imagine.
tim pool
I think he was saying something about he's like kind of a socialist, but when it comes to 2A, he's like... But the reality is socialists tend to be pro-2A.
Like, uh, look, man.
lydia smith
John Brown Gun Club.
tim pool
Yeah, these revolutionary types, they want guns.
They don't, you know, they don't like the idea of the government.
It's these weird, like, resistance corporate Democrat-type people who are like, no one should be armed.
And they would, like, vote for Darth Vader if given the chance.
adam crigler
Only, only us.
tim pool
Right.
adam crigler
That's what it feels like.
tim pool
Only the politicians, only the government.
lydia smith
Only the celebrities.
tim pool
Chat says, Canada is continuing to lock down.
The Quarantine Act was just passed in Parliament.
Interesting.
I was just thinking maybe I should re-download The Division 2.
What's up guys, hope you're staying safe.
unidentified
New DLC?
tim pool
If you guys are gamers, and if this gets worse for two years, then I honestly want you to
apply Tom Clancy's Division game series to this pandemic.
Just my two cents.
adam crigler
I was just thinking maybe I should re-download the Division 2.
tim pool
Yeah.
It's a fun game.
adam crigler
New DLC, go back to New York.
tim pool
Yeah.
I kind of want to play it now.
adam crigler
Let's do it.
tim pool
Let's do it.
Yeah.
adam crigler
We can live stream.
People would love to watch it.
Who wants to see me and Tim play some Division 2?
tim pool
We could actually do the show while playing.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
We could be like... I'm half kidding.
I'm only half kidding.
adam crigler
Oh, fun.
tim pool
Glenn says, we are basically on full lockdown in Nova Scotia, Canada.
$1,000 fines for not social distancing.
They are arresting people for not self-isolating.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
I don't think people realize how bad it is.
adam crigler
I think it's much worse than they're letting on.
tim pool
Absolutely.
I can say it a million times, but hearing stories about people being found dead in their homes, nobody knew.
adam crigler
I know.
tim pool
Yeah.
CS Brown says apparently China's experiencing a huge increase in divorces related to COVID-19 forced quarantine.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Same thing coming to America soon?
lydia smith
Yep.
Oh, they've already seen it.
Really?
50% increase in New York.
Divorce lawyers were talking about.
Yeah.
tim pool
How do you divorce someone during a quarantine?
lydia smith
Well, you gotta work it carefully.
tim pool
We're gonna see a lot of babies.
lydia smith
Lots and lots of babies.
tim pool
Babies and divorces.
adam crigler
I gotta say, everyone's stoked about the idea of us playing Division 2.
tim pool
We'll figure it out.
We actually have an area set up because we're going to do game streaming and we actually have the ports available on the machine to do it.
It's true.
adam crigler
We can do it.
tim pool
I mean, to be honest, the first few episodes we were doing was talking about movies and stuff.
We're only talking about this stuff now because the world's ending and there's nothing else.
No one's talking about anything else.
But I think we'll check out The Hunt.
adam crigler
Yeah, we gotta watch that.
tim pool
And then we'll talk about that because that's culturally relevant to an extent.
The problem is that All of a sudden, no one cares about any of this stuff.
And I get it.
You know, you wanna know why you lost your job.
adam crigler
People are worried about where they're gonna eat next and how they're gonna pay their rent.
tim pool
But I gotta give you that point, like, they're stuck at home with nothing to do but watch the news and now they're seeing the lies in real time.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
That's why, this is crazy, there are two polls now, I believe it's Gallup and CBS, that people trust Trump more than the media.
That is incredible.
adam crigler
The media is doing it.
tim pool
I love it so much.
adam crigler
They're the ones making it happen.
tim pool
But I love it so much because it's like catharsis.
It's karmic justice.
You know what I mean?
adam crigler
Seems like it.
tim pool
It's like, oh man, I love it.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Kyle Buchanan says, well, Oklahoma schools are closed for 2020, like till Jan of next year, unless things change.
Whoa, crazy.
adam crigler
Yeah.
Wow.
tim pool
Jen McMahon says, why is everyone ripping Joe Rogan?
adam crigler
Cause he smokes.
And we said the other day that, or I was surmising that smokers, it's a lung disease.
So if you smoke, it hits you much more.
You smoke pot?
Anything, I guess.
tim pool
How many of you smoke cigarettes?
adam crigler
No, I know.
I know he doesn't smoke cigarettes.
tim pool
Rocks the ganja.
adam crigler
That's what they're talking about, though.
Because that instantly started happening in the chat, so I think that's just residual from that.
tim pool
Joe's cool, dude.
Maddie Bones.
adam crigler
Very much alive.
tim pool
Very much alive, yeah.
But he's remarkably fit.
Yeah, he is.
There's this really funny video where this woman calls him fat.
And he's like, what?
And he pulls his shirt up and he goes, no, no, no.
adam crigler
Like, you know, he was an MMA fighter.
tim pool
His studio is a gym.
adam crigler
Is it really?
tim pool
Yeah.
He's got a full gym in it.
He's got an archery range.
adam crigler
I wouldn't mess with him.
Dude.
I want an archery range.
tim pool
Yeah, that dude's ripped.
Oh yeah.
Maddie Bones says, remember, believe all women, unless they speak out against a Democrat.
P.S. y'all got me missing my Vision streetwear.
Oh yeah.
So a funny story, when the woman who was abused by Joe Biden went to the Time's Up organization,
they said, well, we can't help you because Joe's a Democrat.
It's political.
And, you know, we can't do it.
unidentified
What?
adam crigler
Are you serious?
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
That's embarrassing.
Barf.
Yeah.
tim pool
Barf.
adam crigler
But if it's Brett Kavanaugh... Why is it?
Everyone comes out of the woodwork because he's Republican.
tim pool
We can't have that.
Why is it that Joe Biden is getting by on all of these scandals just because he's running for president?
adam crigler
I don't know.
tim pool
He's like, I'm gonna run for president.
All of a sudden he is immune criminally and untouchable.
lydia smith
Untouchable.
tim pool
Stay alive, Joe.
unidentified
Yeah.
Stay alive.
lydia smith
Joe Rogan and Joe Biden.
tim pool
Yes.
Jett says, in my hometown, a guy was arrested by the RCMP for breaking quarantine and fined $1,000.
If he breaks it again, it's $7,500.
Then it's $15,000 and jail time.
Welcome to the authoritarian machine.
The Panopticon is real.
Everyone knows where you are and they are coming for you.
And guess what?
People are cheering for it.
So we have a correction actually.
I quoted Padme.
Padme Rung.
So this is how liberty dies.
Yeah, not democracy, liberty.
With thunderous applause.
Grace Fang says, y'all notice after watching one of Tim's videos, YouTube marks it part watched or not watched at all, showing up in my history, but at zero minutes watched for all.
lydia smith
Weird.
tim pool
Yeah, because YouTube is, you know, suppressing my content.
lydia smith
If it's just these videos, it might just be because they're live streams.
That's my two cents.
tim pool
These maybe, I don't know.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Toxic Mail Gamer says, play The Division.
Yeah.
Rotal says, Tim, why you give the internet your feet?
Oh, I posted an Instagram thing of me skating with barefoot.
adam crigler
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
I don't care.
What are you going to do?
Whatever.
adam crigler
And by the way, this dude was doing that in like 20 degree weather.
Skating around outside.
tim pool
Crazy.
unidentified
What?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
I know.
adam crigler
You're crazy.
I'm calling you out for being crazy.
tim pool
For skating when it was cold out?
lydia smith
Barefoot.
adam crigler
Barefoot.
unidentified
So?
adam crigler
You're crazy.
All right.
tim pool
I'm like, what's the big deal?
unidentified
I don't know.
adam crigler
No, no, no.
There's no big deal.
tim pool
Oh, this is interesting too.
Check this out.
So we were just talking about how the price of goods were going up.
This guy says, pleb of reason says milk price dropped over 30%, 20% below cost of production.
If this holds, farms will be going bankrupt too.
I don't understand how that could be though, because everyone rated the milks, like the milk was just ripped apart from the stores.
adam crigler
The farms wouldn't go to business.
They would just need to grow something different.
tim pool
Cheaper milk.
Maybe they could make milk by putting water.
adam crigler
Or grow oats.
lydia smith
This happened in Europe one time and they had to kill the dairy cows.
tim pool
You know what's funny?
I interviewed a farmer back when I was, this was like in 2014 I think, 2015 maybe.
And he was growing kale.
And I asked him, I was like, wow, kale.
I hate kale.
Have you always grown kale?
I started laughing.
It was like, no, no, no.
It's like, one day all of a sudden the order started going nuts.
We started making tons of money off this and it's because hipsters were all like, it's a superfood, gotta eat your kale.
Kale was originally just garnish for Pizza Hut's salad bar.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, and then all of a sudden these farmers were like, whoa, it's a gold mine!
Like, the demand was so insane, they all started growing it.
adam crigler
It's true.
tim pool
I wouldn't be surprised if this leads to a few new developments, like Nutella, for instance.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Do you know how Nutella was invented?
adam crigler
No idea.
tim pool
So for those that aren't familiar with the delicious, creamy chocolate treat that is Nutella, it is a chocolate hazelnut spread, and it was because of a chocolate shortage.
So the dude was like, if I mix this with like a nut butter, what could I do to make chocolate bigger?
So we could take a little bit of chocolate and expand it to filler.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Made Nutella.
Hazelnuts and chocolate.
It's amazing.
Delicious.
adam crigler
If only they didn't put milk in it also.
tim pool
Yeah, well, you know, you can't have it.
But I think we're going to see something similar.
I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of factories and farms are going under.
We start seeing like, you know, milk, oat milk hybrid.
Because it's cheaper to just run oats through a grinder with water and then filter out the hard bits and mix it with milk to fluff it up.
adam crigler
Coconut milk, that's my jam.
tim pool
Yeah.
But I think we're going to see diluted product.
We're going to see different products.
People are going to try and save money.
Look, let's be real.
adam crigler
Grow your own food.
tim pool
The economy before this was golden.
So, you know, we'll see.
I don't think we're going to go to the point where it's like the Depression and we're trying to invent things to get by.
Scepter says, Good Omens is great if you haven't seen slash read it.
I'll check it out.
adam crigler
Is that a TV show?
tim pool
I don't know, maybe?
Salthink says, We won't have a country in two months.
It'll either be Mad Max or Hunger Games in two years.
Perhaps, yes.
Vanessa Stuller says, Recommend that you become greedy YouTubers and only read Super Chats over $10.
Yes, I see the irony here.
Yes, because that was a $5 super chat, but I appreciate it.
Well, we try to read as many as we can and then we speed up by doing the bigger ones just because we get, you know, we have too many and we probably have too many now.
Yeah.
Min Max says, buy some soap and get that gumbo off your shirt.
unidentified
What?
Who?
tim pool
Where?
lydia smith
It's your button again.
tim pool
Oh, it's a button.
lydia smith
Remember?
tim pool
It's a button that's shining.
adam crigler
Yeah, the shirt's clean.
Why does it look like gumbo though?
unidentified
I don't get it.
tim pool
Where does it look like gumbo?
lydia smith
It's the second time we've heard this.
I don't know.
You got gumbo on your shirt.
tim pool
I guess.
Matt the Cat says, approximately how many people die from cancer-related illnesses every year in the US?
I don't know.
Do you know how many?
A lot?
adam crigler
What causes cancer?
That's the real question.
tim pool
The issue with a lot of these other diseases people don't get is that when someone gets cancer, they get a treatment, they go to the hospital, they get, you know, a chemo shot or a pill or whatever it is they get, they go home.
And then they come back later for the follow-up treatments, and then if they get really bad, then they're put in, you know, in the hospital.
With coronavirus, it's like one day you're walking around and then all of a sudden you're gasping and wheezing, you collapse on a subway train and they bring you to the hospital, and they're desperately trying to stop you from dying.
lydia smith
They may or may not even know how to treat it.
They think they know how to target cancer to some extent.
They have a few different treatments.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Dr. Doctor says, I talked to a buddy that works at Dallas Center as an ATC.
And he said the plan now is to wait until people get sick and then shut down for 14
days.
Jan, thanks for coming to Member.
Redbeard says, $15 million reward for capturing conviction of Maduro on drug trafficking and narco-tourism.
lydia smith
What are your thoughts?
adam crigler
Is that what they put out?
lydia smith
Yep.
Barred it.
tim pool
Is he still the president or no?
lydia smith
Maduro?
Yeah, as far as I know.
tim pool
The president of Venezuela.
lydia smith
This strikes me as very strange.
He's a leader of a foreign country.
Replacing a $15 million ransom on the head of a foreign leader.
tim pool
And you will see a coup in two seconds.
lydia smith
That is interesting.
tim pool
We'll see, man.
lydia smith
They're already upset.
tim pool
We're going to speed up and try to go through the Super Chats faster.
adam crigler
Oh wow, it's 9.30 already.
tim pool
Yeah, I was ranting a lot about the media.
I had to do it.
lydia smith
It was good.
adam crigler
I told you to.
tim pool
Jason Martz says, love the show Tim, have you looked up Bill HR 5717?
We need to do that.
lydia smith
So I did a little bit, and it is a huge gun control thing, and it's from a couple years ago, I want to say.
tim pool
Is it the crazy one that bans handguns?
lydia smith
I believe so.
Or part of it got through, I think.
Yeah.
unidentified
Oof.
tim pool
CC, thanks for coming.
A member.
Benito says, Tim, I've heard you talk about anime.
I highly suggest watching Log Horizon.
People get trapped in an MMORPG, and the main character uses strategy to solve every problem.
S3 comes out this year.
Season 3.
Oh, cool.
Sounds fun.
We weren't trying to provide anyone with valuable perspective.
We were trying to complain about movies.
We were watching Sonic the Hedgehog.
We went to the AMC.
We saw Sonic the Hedgehog.
We were like, Sonic the Hedgehog was a great movie.
How much fun?
Wasn't it cool when, you know, Tails came out and blah, blah, blah, and it's like, oh, I can't wait for the next movie.
lydia smith
Yeah, we'll just have to go see the next one.
To be determined.
tim pool
One week later, the world is ending.
lydia smith
It was not to be.
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
Paxton Fairbank says, grass is good for the kids to play on.
It acts as a nice mat for kids to roughhouse on.
Grass is good.
I do like grass.
That's true.
A handy redneck.
Grass was a social status in the old world.
If you were wealthy and powerful, you did not have to grow food and get dirty.
Interesting.
Now we're all wealthy.
JustDavid says, the media is making this bigger.
It's not good.
It's contagious and high mortality rate, but we live with more debilitating and deadly disease and hazard.
We are not used to this.
We are atrophied and need to rebuild muscles.
That's what I was saying.
adam crigler
It's very true.
tim pool
We can't, we can't, it's like, I feel like, like, you know, one day, oh, remember that story I told you about the wolf?
The family was on the beach and the wolf showed up and they ran out, they swam out into the ocean to a rock and were huddling, freezing, terrified of the wolf.
That's what I'm, I'm like, dude, Wolves are out there.
Yep.
100 years ago, 200 years ago, the guy would have drawn his sword and been like, stay back, family!
Come at me, beast!
Or, you know, I'm kidding, but... Oh, no.
adam crigler
This is a very accurate depiction.
tim pool
They knew the dangers.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And people died all the time.
But now that we're so safe, everyone walks... Nobody has weapons, for the most part.
People walk around in just, like, loose, thin cotton shirts, no leather, no hide, no mail, nothing, no protection.
And they don't expect anything to happen.
So when it does, they panic and they hide in their bedroom and slam the door and lock it.
adam crigler
Of course, chain mail wouldn't have done much to a deadly virus pandemic.
tim pool
No, no, but what I mean is... I know.
lydia smith
Those were some hard times.
tim pool
200, 300 years ago, people would be like, he's got, you know, or what is it, like, you ever see that movie with, um, Tombstone?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
He's got the consumption.
You know, tuberculosis.
I think it was tuberculosis, right?
The consumption?
adam crigler
Yeah.
And so... Doc Holliday.
tim pool
And people would die.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
Now it's like, we have this, you know, deadly disease, and people immediately run inside, slam the doors shut, and start huddling in fear.
I mean that I'm being somewhat hyperbolic, but at what point do we recognize that we can't control everything and these things are going to happen?
We can't all hide from this.
I don't know.
I don't know what to do.
Fortunately, I work from home, and I don't have to go out into the world and get any crazy diseases.
adam crigler
Yeah, I was talking to a buddy of mine.
We're lucky, man.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
Let's keep it moving.
tim pool
Mark G says, I'm making a liberty garden in my yard just in case the lockdown gets worse.
If the lockdown doesn't, then I'll have fresh veggies.
Win-win.
lydia smith
Correct.
tim pool
Mimic what people did during World War I. Yeah, well, I want chickens, but you can't legally have them here.
unidentified
Boo.
tim pool
I am angry.
We had chickens in Miami.
adam crigler
We did.
tim pool
Fresh eggs every morning.
Glorious.
and the chickens were more than happy to be like, ruff ruff, pick them up and they just look at you,
and then we would eat them.
adam crigler
And they ate their own eggs too, it's kind of gross.
tim pool
Yeah, it's a little weird.
That's bad, they're not supposed to do that.
lydia smith
Yeah, they need calcium.
tim pool
No, it's like, I was reading about it's a bad habit.
Basically, the chickens will learn to do it and it's a really bad thing.
So you gotta go in there and make sure you take the eggs away
but it was, something happened where like, I think when one of the animals broke in
and like one of the eggs broke and they started eating it or something.
adam crigler
Oh, yeah, I forgot that we had those dogs man.
tim pool
The dogs kept coming in and trying to kill our chickens and they did kill some of them.
That's that's that's BS man.
Yeah, my chickens are my friends.
All right, let's read on.
But we can't have him here in Jersey.
CDW says even if we do bring manufacturing back politicians will bring The Chinese worker is with it. My company stopped hiring
local grads and only hires H1B PhDs for jobs that only require associate's degrees.
Yeah, we can't do that either.
Student of History says, I think we need to buy time till we have a viable option of fighting back.
If X. If the hydrochloroquine azithromycin tests come back good, or when we get the ventilator production up.
Yeah.
ClearSmash says, Hey Tim, just wanted to show some support.
Stay safe.
Appreciate it.
RedLag says, Welcome to the Division plotline IRL.
Glad I had stuff ready.
Stay safe and keep doing what you do.
Will do.
Paxton says, It doesn't matter how bad the virus is.
We will muddle on through.
It will be hard, but we are strong and will survive.
Now is the time for the concept of Serenity to make a comeback.
Greg Wolf, there is a story from Weimar, Germany that goes, a lady took her wheelbarrow full of money to the store to buy bread.
She went inside and someone dumped the money and stole the wheelbarrow.
That's great.
Gary Wildly says, I'm an electrician in Michigan.
We only have essential workers working and today I had a first.
I had someone call the cops on me for just working.
I never thought a day like that would happen.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
Like the people in Jersey had friends over and all the neighbors called the police.
Dude, when the authoritarian, you know, nightmare comes, the people are going to clap and cheer for it.
It's going to be like 1984.
Steven Coombs says, I enjoy the show, keep it up.
You guys mentioned the Wonder Chicken last night.
Today a new carnivorous feathered dinosaur from New Mexico was published.
It's called Dyneobellator.
Check it out.
That's what we were looking at.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's exactly the same thing.
tim pool
The Hylian VoIP technology, voice over IP, theory regarding Chinese phones is that people are destroying them or shutting them off to hide.
Unlikely 21 million die that fast.
Phone ownership is mandatory in China.
Whoa, what, really?
adam crigler
It's mandatory?
tim pool
I never heard that.
unidentified
That's scary.
adam crigler
I didn't know that it was the ownership that was mandatory.
I knew that if you got the phone, you had to like get facial recognition and like register who you are and where you live and all that crazy stuff.
Why not?
tim pool
Make everybody have a phone.
Yikes, man.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Gary, thanks for becoming a member.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Laowai says, hey man, I heard we were mentioned, would love to come on the show, let me know.
I think you were.
lydia smith
Indeed, and I'm already in touch with you.
tim pool
We'll figure it out, but here's the thing, we don't really do Skype, we're not really set up for Skype stuff, and we were actually bringing people down to the show to come on, and we even set up this big empty space in between us.
adam crigler
There's supposed to be someone here.
tim pool
And now we're quarantined in the apocalypse and we can't have people over.
Gothic says, hey Tim, there's an anime called Sword Art Online where players use a helmet called Dive Gear where all the controls are your brain.
Seems like the future of gaming as far as I can tell.
I can't wait.
lydia smith
We are familiar with this.
tim pool
Yes.
I'm excited.
I gotta charge up the VR thing.
Have you ever played the Space Pirates game?
The quest Space Pirates?
adam crigler
I don't think so.
tim pool
Oh, dude.
It's amazing.
unidentified
Cool.
tim pool
It's very simple.
It's an arcade game, little robots, and you're like...
Yeah, and you can, like, get a electromagnet and, like, grab him and throw him.
It's fun.
adam crigler
Cool.
tim pool
We'll set it up.
adam crigler
Yeah, I like VR.
tim pool
Like Fry says, have you heard the rumors about Advil and Tylenol?
That Advil makes Corona worse and Tylenol is safe to use.
A lot of people I know are freaking out over this.
Can you look into whether these rumors are true or not?
adam crigler
Interesting.
tim pool
I don't know because there's a lot of conflicting information.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
So I'm not going to say anything because... Yeah.
I don't want anybody to hear it.
adam crigler
You don't know.
tim pool
All right, Greg says, hey Tim, at laowai86 is in your chat asking to do a video with you.
He and Serpentza do great videos on China.
Reach out to him.
Okay, thanks.
We will.
adam crigler
I'm in the bush.
tim pool
You are?
unidentified
Excellent.
lydia smith
I am already.
tim pool
BV says, Ernit Act likely just the beginning of sneaky government overreach during a crisis, and we all need to be especially vigilant right now.
Remember, the Patriot Act was written and shelved years before 9-11.
Whoa.
Duder, thanks for becoming a member.
adam crigler
Thanks.
tim pool
Excellent.
And we'll scroll down.
Paul Duffy, thanks for the superchat.
Paul's... Oh, it just jumped on us.
I love it when it does that.
So, as I'm scrolling up and looking to try and figure out where our superchats went, I will explain to you what's happening.
YouTube loads all the superchats at once, and then the entire feed just blinks, and I'm like, okay.
Paul says, I've had to lay off all my employees.
Our company is making $0 for the first time in 120 years.
We can get back to work.
I have a video on my page about how.
Please let me know what you think.
We'll take a look at it.
Kaj says, when the crisis is over, China must pay reparations to the entire world for releasing this plague upon the planet.
They must be made an example of, so that something like this never happens again.
They should not have lied.
They should not have withheld information, and they traced the first case back to November.
If we knew then, this could have all been avoided.
adam crigler
Agreed.
tim pool
We could have done a semi-lockdown for a short period of time, it would have stopped in its tracks.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
All right, Team Gas says, seek truth.
Appreciate the super chat.
Shire says, China holds $1 trillion in US bonds.
We can tell them to pound, sand, and cancel these bonds.
We hold a $1 trillion gun to their head.
Yikes.
Nonservium says, someone pointed out to me that during the government shutdown a while back, a bunch of activist rallies suddenly got canceled.
And now because of this whole pandemic, you see less activism on the internet.
Coincidence?
I think not.
Perhaps a coincidence.
The issue is that activism won't be effective right now because no one will care.
We are still seeing these stupid articles where they're like, you know, but my bigotry.
If activists... First of all, they can't go out right now.
We're under quarantine.
If they did, everyone would screech them and it would be a huge negative for their cause.
adam crigler
True.
tim pool
Right?
Like, this is why Trump's approval is skyrocketing.
Nobody cares about, you know, your weird whatever.
We just don't want to die.
Superguy88 says the beanies should say it's complicated.
Oh, we'll have a variety of beanies.
adam crigler
Actually, you know what?
On that note, what do you guys want on the beanies?
I actually have a few ideas.
I'm working with an artist to do some cool Timcast IRL stuff for us.
But yeah, what should we do?
I mean, it's complicated.
That's on the list already.
And, I mean, really the number one thing I want to do is emulate that.
What he's got on his head, the actual Timcast beanie.
lydia smith
Yeah, the original.
tim pool
The original.
It's not the original.
adam crigler
Well, but it's going to be, instead of DC, it'll be TP.
lydia smith
Oh, that's not going to work.
unidentified
TC.
tim pool
Timcast.
adam crigler
Well, Timpool.
tim pool
Yeah, not TP.
adam crigler
Alright, we'll do that.
Alright.
tim pool
Alright, Timcast.
Mabe says... Or maybe just IRL.
adam crigler
Anyway, go ahead.
tim pool
Will China the CCP be punished for the coronavirus, or the leaders of the world will just ignore it like what happened in SARS outbreak years ago, which also came from Chinese wet market?
Nothing's gonna happen.
They're not gonna do anything to them.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Debbie, thanks for becoming a member.
Derek as well, thanks for joining.
Aaron Larson says, Tim, heads up for y'all.
I have all notifications on for this channel, and I subscribed, but YouTube still isn't sending me notifications when you go live anymore.
adam crigler
That's what I was talking about.
tim pool
I've been this way for four days now.
Look into it.
Yeah, well, Adam wasn't even getting notifications.
adam crigler
I'm trying to figure it out myself, because I have my computer here, and when I sit down and he logs it up, I try to get it prepped and ready, and I don't get it.
I'm subscribed.
tim pool
Welcome to YouTube.
adam crigler
I click the bell.
Sometimes it works, though.
That's the weird part.
Sometimes it'll be like, boom, it's there.
I click the bell, and it pops up right away.
I would say 75% of the time, nothing happens.
It's annoying.
tim pool
All right, let's see what we got.
Hydro Homie says, will the inevitable inflation coming to the U.S.
global economy with the inevitable inflation?
Do you believe that untraceable cryptos such as Monero, Zcash, PIVX, etc.
will retain its value and possibly be used as the main currency?
I'm not sure.
I'm not particularly bullish on them, necessarily, because there's too many different ones.
adam crigler
And they're based on a system that we're spoiled with.
We have to remember, what if the internet goes down?
What if electricity goes out?
You know, even if it's for a little bit, if that's your main source of currency, what are you going to do?
You know?
tim pool
If you've got nothing— A personal-handled device, but if electricity goes out— Yeah, exactly.
adam crigler
What are you going to do?
tim pool
Challenging.
adam crigler
Grow food.
That's the true currency for the future.
If this does hit the fan.
tim pool
Yeah.
No one cares.
Thanks for becoming a member.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Eman Bell says, I've watched about every video you've put out every day for the last year, but I've never had one appear in my up next feed.
Oh, they got rid of it.
Yeah, it doesn't.
They, they, they pulled me out.
It's ridiculous.
That's why I always say you got to subscribe, hit the like button, whatever.
This is a new channel.
adam crigler
Yeah.
Hit that like button for us.
tim pool
Hopefully, you know.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
Hit the like.
tim pool
Lior Engelstein says, my two cents.
Some good changes that I hope will come from this.
One, manufacturing moving away from China.
Two, bonds bought by China will not be paid by the world, not just USA.
Oh man, that would be brutal for them.
lydia smith
Yeah, dude.
tim pool
The Moen says, Soy Jesus and Lydia, can you talk your position on private ownership of guns?
And Tim, are you now considering purchasing a gun?
adam crigler
I love it.
Well, I don't own a gun, but I wish I did.
I want to get one.
That's it.
tim pool
What do you think about gun control?
adam crigler
I think you should be vetted, and if you're clear, you should get a gun.
tim pool
Background checks?
adam crigler
Yeah, why not?
tim pool
They just shut them down.
You can't buy one now.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's all they have to do is say, oh, oh gosh, background checks aren't working.
tim pool
This is what they did with pot.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
In the turn of the century, they said, okay, we won't ban the sale of pot, but you need to buy from the government approved stamps for the purchase of the pot.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
But we don't sell stamps anymore.
Yep.
That's the loophole.
Because everyone says, oh, that's no big deal.
So I'm actually in favor of background checks.
Not anymore.
For this reason.
adam crigler
I mean, you just pointed out.
I don't want any government to have control over if I can get one or not.
Because I would like to go get one.
tim pool
Dude.
adam crigler
If they're going to say, I'm sorry, we're not doing it right now because we don't do background checks anymore.
Forever.
And it's like, okay, I'm going to have an issue with that.
tim pool
This pandemic stuff has pushed me right on several issues, notably like 2A.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And you know, initially, I was always fairly tepid on most things.
I lean a little to the left.
I've always been like, background checks make sense.
It just does.
adam crigler
It does.
tim pool
And I even went and did an interview with this weapons trainer for local police, and he's a top-tier shooting competitor.
And he said we got problems with non-nationalized, like, non-uniform background checks.
Like, you can go to one state and in a short amount of time actually get a gun, and then you can take it to another state where you can't have it.
It's like, you can't have these rules.
They don't make sense.
There's a lot of problems with it.
Like, if you're a legal gun owner and you drive through the wrong state on a vacation, you can't do it.
You'll go to prison.
So there's got to be something uniform everyone can understand, and we make sure that crazy people can't try and source guns from other areas.
One of the things they do in Chicago is there will be people, because the Indiana border's right there, someone from Indiana will buy it and then mark it up, like they'll give it to the guy from Chicago illegally.
So there's issues.
The problem now is after seeing these arguments where it's like, hey, it makes sense, you should be able to do that, what happened?
In a major crisis where now, more than ever, people are realizing they need self-defense, the government just goes, oh, by the way, we're not gonna process background checks anymore.
Effectively illegalizing the purchase of all guns.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's not okay.
tim pool
Right, and you even see some governors trying to shut down gun shops.
That's nuts to me.
You can see how much power they try and grab as soon as the crisis starts, and because of that desperate attempt at power, it makes me recoil in the other direction, like, nah, now I'm very much like, mm-mm, nope.
adam crigler
I feel like that's happening a lot.
tim pool
Yeah.
On a lot of things.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Dude, on immigration, conservatives have been proven right.
Not, like, I don't want to say, like, in every aspect of it, because there's a lot of people who are very extreme on it.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But Trump trying to secure the borders?
Now more than ever, we know why it's important to do.
And they try and claim, like, but a wall won't stop a virus.
No, but it'll stop the people from illegally entering who have the virus.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's not a simple thing.
tim pool
Ten years ago, Democrats were all in favor of border barriers.
unidentified
Interesting.
tim pool
As soon as Trump says it, they're like, not for me anymore.
Yeah.
But what about you?
You were asked as well what you think on 2A.
lydia smith
I'm pretty strongly 2A.
There you go.
tim pool
All right, well, there you go. There you go.
June F says Division two still waiting on that Minecraft stream.
Oh, yeah. Alex, thanks for the super chat.
Vash said, ha ha. You thought they got top hats.
I'm not sure that is a reference to.
adam crigler
Neither do I. Don't know.
tim pool
Bunch of super chats just popped in right now.
Here we go.
adam crigler
Thanks everyone.
lydia smith
Thank you everyone.
tim pool
Not surprising.
Scrooge Colonel says, PM Trudeau apparently was bragging about sending all of our PPE to
China after they already banned the export of PPE from their country.
Now we have a lot less than we could have and China will not be sending any our way.
Bobcat says, book review suggestion, New York collapse.
It was written as a supplement to the game The Division, but most of it is actually valid
and has good puzzles.
Cool.
Paul Duffy says, thank you for reading my super chat.
God bless.
Stay safe.
You do great work.
We can't get people back to work.
We need it to.
I detail a plan in that vid.
unidentified
Alright.
tim pool
Mr. Paul R says, Nancy Nero Pelosi watched while America burned.
Tim, soy Jesus and Lydia.
Stay safe.
Depend on you for part of my daily updates.
We are number one in something we don't want number one to be number one in, uh, reported coronavirus cases.
unidentified
Yep.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's true.
And thank you.
tim pool
Jay Yeah says, Hi, Tim.
I'm an intensivist ICU doc.
Been watching you for two years now.
Really appreciate your insight and coverage that MSM doesn't include from both sides.
Thank you for getting good info about this pandemic.
Please, people, take heed and be safe.
Wash your hands.
And you should be washing your hands anyway.
lydia smith
But yeah, dude, please correct us if we're wrong, for sure.
tim pool
John Monk says, the military is going to have a huge outbreak soon.
Yikes.
adam crigler
Yeah, that sucks.
tim pool
The military is going to have a huge outbreak soon.
Necroside says, for the Tylenol thing, my sister works as an RN at one of our major local hospitals and was officially warned about ibuprofen use and the use of Tylenol instead.
Ibuprofen increases cytokines.
Is that how you say it?
lydia smith
Yeah, it's called a cytokine storm.
tim pool
Ah.
lydia smith
It's an immune response.
tim pool
Yikes.
adam crigler
So, avoid ibuprofen?
tim pool
Well, ask your doctor.
Don't get advice from your commentary shows.
adam crigler
That was a question that I was asking.
tim pool
TheLegendaryMasamune says, Hey guys, love the podcast.
I was curious to ask.
I have YouTube Premium, but for some reason these streams, and even the recorded version you put up, I can't play with my phone locked while working.
Do you know why this is?
I don't, because I can.
I don't know.
adam crigler
I don't know either.
tim pool
Yeah, when I open the app and I press play on the show, I can close my phone and it works.
Some people are having problems with this and I have no idea.
YouTube is just crazy.
lydia smith
I've never been able to close my phone and have it work.
tim pool
If you have premium, you can.
lydia smith
Oh, I see.
tim pool
It's a special feature.
unidentified
Interesting.
tim pool
Alright, let's see.
Exquisite Corp says, why not do a contest for us to design your beanies?
Well, because, you know, to make the beanie legit, we can't have too much on it.
It's got to be very simple.
adam crigler
I have a pretty solid idea of what I want.
So, there might be a few things with just a couple of his catchphrases.
Maybe just like a soy Jesus.
tim pool
So a soy Jesus one?
adam crigler
I'm just kidding, I don't know.
Well, who knows?
tim pool
Well, maybe you make one.
adam crigler
I don't know if people want a soy Jesus beanie.
tim pool
I'm sure they would.
You gotta buy both.
Collect them all.
And every month we'll put like a one slash, you know, like limited edition pressing.
Legit designer beanies.
Tovin says, and now you know why small government is paramount to maintain your freedoms.
Oh, you know it, baby.
Small government.
AJ Starhiker, I know a guy who will not drive to Chicago because he won't leave his gun behind.
He's also an instructor for competitive shooting and they have to be careful about traveling to tourneys.
Beetle, thanks for becoming a member.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Travis Potter says, Soy Jesus, what do you think about hunting?
Is it more respectable when someone takes part in the entire process of getting meat instead of paying for the murder?
adam crigler
Absolutely.
100%.
I actually have nothing against hunters.
People that go out and kill the animal themselves and harvest it themselves, like, alright, you're living off the land.
All right.
You're not paying someone else to do it.
You don't know where it came from, but if you're a hunter, more power to you.
I'm sure there's vegans out there that are hating me for that, but that's fine.
tim pool
Well, there are health vegans.
They do it for the health.
There's some that do it for animal rights.
adam crigler
That's true.
And I do it for me.
I'm not doing it for anyone else.
Sure, I talk about it, but I think it's relevant in certain situations.
But if you're going out to the woods and you're taking the time to find an animal and hunt it yourself and you're harvesting it yourself, That's how humans have done it for a long time.
tim pool
And hunting is important to control populations.
adam crigler
Yeah, I mean, I lived in Chicago for a while, and there's places where the deer would overrun some areas, and they needed hunters to go take the deer out.
So if you're gonna just go kill deer for no reason, just because, it's like, okay.
But if you're going out there and you're actually helping and, you know, feeding your, like, one deer can feed, you know, a lot of people that you need.
tim pool
Oh, I knew it due to a deer.
It was crazy.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's like, you know what?
tim pool
There's a reason why there's a season for it and why it's regulated and stuff.
adam crigler
Yeah, they do regulate it very well.
tim pool
So AJ's comment about driving through Chicago, I wanted to mention, I actually met a dude
who was driving through Chicago, driving through Illinois.
He had guns in his trunk, got pulled over, struck the vehicle, prison.
Prison.
unidentified
Dang.
tim pool
Yep.
He was passing through, he's from LA or something, and he was like, they're mine, and they were like, doesn't matter.
There was a woman from I think Tennessee with a legal permit for a revolver.
She went to the Sears Tower, now Willis Tower, as a tourist.
She's an old lady, she's like 63.
And when she was going in, there was a metal detector, and she said, oh, can I leave my weapon here?
And they were like, prison.
And she got prison time.
Hard prison for an old woman who was from Tennessee who was legally owning a weapon.
That's insane.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Martin says, we need to treat the Chinese like we treat the USSR.
They are the enemy of free men across the world.
Bro Cody says, we need a beanie with the Tim quote.
Listen, man.
Well, there's a bunch of different quotes.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no Mr. Paul R says, Lydia, soy juice and Tim Pool beanies.
You got it.
adam crigler
Oh, that was for me.
They like me much more.
tim pool
Right, yeah.
adam crigler
Oh, well, I appreciate that.
Thank you.
tim pool
And now, for some non-world-ending, non-political, fun news.
adam crigler
Oh, thank, thank the soy.
tim pool
Good news for lazy joggers!
That makes no sense.
unidentified
Good news, everyone!
tim pool
Scientists develop ankle exoskeleton that makes running 14% easier than in normal sports shoes.
So apparently, Nike Shoes funded this research, and they developed some kind of exo-Iron Man type... Look at this.
adam crigler
It begins.
tim pool
It begins.
adam crigler
This is the start.
tim pool
So here's the thing.
adam crigler
Oh, this is cool.
tim pool
Here's the thing.
adam crigler
I want to run faster.
unidentified
I know, right?
tim pool
Let me tell you the thing.
adam crigler
Here's the thing.
lydia smith
There's the thing.
adam crigler
Another beanie idea.
tim pool
What makes Iron Man, Tony Stark, a superhero is that he as one person developed all of these things very, very quickly.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
We, in real life... In a cave.
Well, no, no, no.
He made a weird, bonkers suit.
adam crigler
The first Iron Man, I know.
tim pool
Right, he did, but it was like a crappy suit.
He went home, and he was like... So what do we have right now?
We got a guy who can fly, and now we got a guy who can run.
We gotta bring these things together, and then we're gonna have the real suit.
But let's be honest, like, if you wore an Iron Man suit, and someone hit you with, like, a mortar shell, You're gonna die.
I don't know what his suit's made of.
There's that scene in the first one where he's flying and the tank fires the artillery shell.
adam crigler
In every Iron Man, he gets shot against the wall and it's just like, boom!
I'm okay.
I'm okay.
It's like, well, what about your brain?
Your brain is still sitting in fluid and if it hits the back, you're gonna get a concussion.
tim pool
I just assume that Iron Man has some kind of maglev-like force field that absorbs... Force-dampening adamantium.
Oh, inertial dampeners.
adam crigler
Yeah, right.
tim pool
Like in Star Trek.
adam crigler
Yeah, the inertial dampener.
tim pool
So check this out.
How the ankle exoskeleton works.
Now, it's just the ankle, so the story is kind of a letdown, but it's still pretty cool.
We can run better.
I actually bought these things.
They were advertised to me on Instagram.
They're these spring-loaded knee braces.
adam crigler
Oh man, I've seen those.
They don't work.
I heard that they didn't work.
tim pool
Because it's it creates a weird obstruction in your knee when you bend them.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And it just feels weird.
It actually does.
It feels worse.
But the idea is interesting.
So there are these things that you strap them onto your knees and in the back there's a spring and it's like plastic.
And then when it bends, it resists.
adam crigler
All I can think is that you're an Instagram sucker.
tim pool
Yeah?
I buy so much stuff off Instagram to give you an idea.
lydia smith
They have cool ads, dude.
tim pool
Look at that UFO.
adam crigler
The UFO thing is from Instagram?
tim pool
No, no, no.
lydia smith
Switch to us.
tim pool
That UFO I saw on Instagram.
It took a long time to get here, too.
adam crigler
It's pretty cool.
lydia smith
We forgot about it, and then it turned up, and we were like, oh my goodness.
tim pool
It's a lamp?
adam crigler
I gotta be honest, though.
I like the globe better.
tim pool
No, I like the UFO better.
adam crigler
You know what?
We should have a vote.
Not look at it.
It's obviously there's two against one, but I'm talking about you guys out there What do you think we should the globe or the UFO?
Shout out in the comments at me at me in the comments if you want the globe and then If you look at that you like the UFO that is cool.
tim pool
It's floating.
Yes spinning.
Yes, it can play music Yeah, I read it's a speaker, and it's charging while it's floating That's awesome I'm not saying it's not cool.
unidentified
Anyway, back to the exoskeletons.
tim pool
So, let's see, they say couch potatoes trying to get in shape could one day be helped along their fitness journey by an ankle exoskeleton that makes it easier and less tiring to run.
Okay, I'm gonna stop you right there.
If you don't like running, don't do it.
lydia smith
It's not going to make you run.
tim pool
Listen.
adam crigler
That's what I was thinking.
tim pool
You've got to develop good habits.
adam crigler
No one's going to run with these if they don't like running.
If you don't like running, you're not going to run.
tim pool
Ever.
You know what I like?
Skateboarding.
adam crigler
I actually do like running because there is a point where you kind of get the endorphins running and you go into like this spacey cloud space and it's actually pretty great.
tim pool
I like free running.
adam crigler
But I do like skating over running.
So here's the thing.
I'm going to always go skate instead.
tim pool
Doing something you don't want to do is very difficult and you need community support to get into something.
So like, if you're somebody who wants, if you're a lazy couch potato and you want to get into running, find some people to run with and hang out with them.
And you need to build that community.
For me, skateboarding is a very solitary thing.
I skate because I want to.
Some people skate because they want to be with their friends.
But when I go out, I'm not like, it's time to exercise.
We're going to go skate.
No, it's like, I want to skate.
I just so happen to be getting exercise.
So, what are the real benefits of this exoskeleton?
I don't know.
Military capabilities?
adam crigler
Nah.
tim pool
You don't think so?
lydia smith
It has potential.
adam crigler
I don't think so.
tim pool
Why not?
14% energy reduction?
adam crigler
Because the military is gonna use robots.
They're not leaning to make humans go out there with, like, super suits to run faster.
This is just someone who, you know, is coming up with something that's, you know, it is kinda cool.
But what's the application to this?
It's not going to be the military.
The military wants robots.
They don't want to lose humans.
That's why they're studying gamers' brains.
They're studying people who control, like, StarCraft.
Kind of like, you know, sending masses and understanding the flow of battle to do robots, not superhumans.
That's not happening.
tim pool
I'm actually a bit bummed.
Apparently these tethers are, like, mounted to motors that go into your suit.
adam crigler
Yeah, sure.
This is, you know, this is the start.
tim pool
Right, so maybe they'll wear a backpack at some point, but the other thing is, what they're arguing, like, they're saying, you know, eventually a version will be created to help runners on a treadmill save an average of 24% more energy.
For what?
I thought the goal of running on a treadmill was to burn energy.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
What is the point of this?
This feels like wasted research.
tim pool
No, no.
adam crigler
I think so.
What's the point of this?
What's the reason?
tim pool
If we can make simple exosuits to increase... There was one guy.
He's got one.
It's a hydraulic suit.
And he was able to lift ridiculously heavy things with it.
Interesting.
adam crigler
So that makes sense to me.
Yeah, so that has some applications.
Outside, just simply running.
tim pool
It's like hydraulic bars with like a hook at the end and he would like hook it around stuff and then lift like, you know, 100, 200 pound weights.
adam crigler
Dope.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Well, this makes it so you can run.
You can save energy when you run.
We're running what maybe you got a job and you got to run maybe you're uh, oh, yeah, maybe you're what job?
What's who's who's the guy who ran the marathon?
adam crigler
They're gonna allow this in a marathon.
Oh, yeah, exactly.
tim pool
I remember that guy What's the origin of the marathon who did it?
I don't know The marathon originated because some dude had to run 26 miles or something in ancient Rome.
And then he ran as fast as he could to deliver this message.
lydia smith
Oh, that's right.
One of the gods had the wings on his feet.
Was that him?
tim pool
Mercury?
unidentified
Hermes?
tim pool
I don't know.
lydia smith
Different names.
tim pool
But that's like the story of the marathon or whatever.
adam crigler
No idea.
tim pool
Let's like, but let's look, there are people who have to run in certain environments.
Why, right now we don't have Boston and MX style robots to go and fight.
adam crigler
Yeah, you know what?
The people who are in civilizations that need to run are super fit.
Their muscles are used to running.
And they're like, oh yeah, running in the store.
It would take more time for me to be strapped up in this stuff to then go there.
I could just run and get there and get the thing and come back before you're even, you're like halfway there.
Even though you run faster, you still gotta, I don't know, just like.
tim pool
What are we talking about?
This is like Iron Man stuff.
It's like level one.
We're just getting started, baby.
adam crigler
I know.
I agree.
I just want to see some real applications.
tim pool
You ever see Mario Brothers, the movie?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Remember when they put those things on their legs and make them jump really high?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
That wouldn't work, but what if it could?
adam crigler
I mean, it's the same thing we talked about earlier.
You fly up real high, and you fall and die.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
adam crigler
It's like, we're human!
tim pool
Well, so, but here's the idea though.
The idea is that you have these things on your legs that have stored energy in like a spring or some kind of, you know, I don't know, piston, I have no idea.
adam crigler
Sure.
tim pool
And right when you jump, it releases at the same time, giving you an extended jump.
When you land, it absorbs energy and compresses it back down and clicks in.
adam crigler
Sure, okay.
tim pool
But if you mess up... If you mess up?
adam crigler
You'll be flipping and going like... Or hitting somebody, running into something.
tim pool
But hey man, look.
adam crigler
That's a mess.
tim pool
I've seen football players just running and then they tear their ACL.
adam crigler
But I've also seen the stupidity of humans.
Very prevalent as of late.
Indeed.
And people will have access to this kind of thing.
tim pool
They'll be like bouncing around.
adam crigler
Do you know the story of Spring-Heeled Jack?
tim pool
Spring-Heeled Jack is an entity in English folklore of the Victorian era.
The first claimed sighting of Spring-Heeled Jack was in 1837.
There are many theories about the nature and identity of Spring-Heeled Jack, the urban legend that was very popular in its time, due to the tales of his bizarre appearance and ability to make extraordinary leaps, to the point that he became the topic of several works of fiction.
Spring-Heeled Jack was described by people who claimed to have seen him as having a terrifying and frightful appearance, with diabolical physiognomy, clawed hands, and eyes that resembled red balls of fire.
One report claimed that beneath a black cloak, he wore a helmet and a tight-fitting white garment like an oil skin.
Many stories also mentioned a devil-like aspect.
Others said he was tall and thin, with the appearance of a gentleman.
Several reports mentioned that he could breathe out blue and white flames.
Okay, this is just getting absurd.
adam crigler
Yeah, wasn't opium really heavy back then?
unidentified
It was.
I see it.
adam crigler
I see it.
tim pool
People are on crazy drugs.
adam crigler
Pretty sure people were drinking at that time.
tim pool
Look, mass hysteria.
adam crigler
Put it right there.
tim pool
So, my general understanding of why they call him Spring-Heeled Jack was that the assumption was he had some kind of things in his boots and he could jump really high.
And there were stories that he would be being chased and then he would just jump on top of a building.
adam crigler
Have you ever seen, uh, what's that movie?
Uh, Brothers Grimm, I think it is?
tim pool
No.
adam crigler
I think it's Heath Ledger and Matt Damon, yeah.
And they just, like, they're the Grimm brothers who, like, kill the demons or whatever, and it's all a hoax.
They got, like, springboards set up to, like, convince the people that they're doing these amazing things, but it's all just, like, smoke and mirrors.
tim pool
That's the reality of ninjas, you know that?
Is it?
adam crigler
I didn't know that.
That's cool.
tim pool
I'm not a ninja expert, but I have read one or two Reddit articles when they popped up, and I was reading how they would try to create the perception of having magic powers, so people would avoid fighting them.
So one of the things they would do is, before, like, they're assassins, right?
They wouldn't dress in all black.
That's from, like, theater.
They would wear regular clothes of regular people so they could blend in.
adam crigler
Makes sense.
tim pool
But let's say there was like a building and they had to assassinate somebody.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
They would prepare for the escape.
So in the pond, in the lake next to it, they would put wooden beams.
And then after they assassinated their target and were fleeing and being chased.
adam crigler
They would run across the lake.
tim pool
They would run across the lake and people would stop and be like, demons.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
When they were really just jumping from log to log.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
So it was all about trickery and deception.
Well, not always, but that's one of the things they would do.
You create, you know, so maybe this spring-heeled jack-eye was just some dude who pre-set.
Maybe it was a board on the ground in the spring, and he would run and hit it, and it would bounce him in the air, and they'd be like, how did he do that?
Not realizing.
adam crigler
Like, whoa!
He's spring-heeled!
tim pool
Yeah.
But I dig the old urban legend.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
He's like jumping around.
adam crigler
He's like the original Batman.
tim pool
Right?
Yeah, for real.
Look at this guy.
lydia smith
That's very cool.
tim pool
He looks kind of flamboyant.
I love it.
lydia smith
It's his tight white pants.
unidentified
It is.
adam crigler
It's literally the Batman and the Joker together.
Look at his smile.
tim pool
It kind of does.
adam crigler
Look at his face.
lydia smith
I like that.
adam crigler
You know how I got these scars?
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
My boots.
tim pool
I jumped really high and fell down onto a fence post.
Right in his mouth.
unidentified
Oh gosh.
lydia smith
uh...
tim pool
well anyway i don't know any final thoughts on the uh...
the coming uh...
that's the wrong story any final thoughts on the coming
adam crigler
All I can think is the beanies are coming soon.
There we go.
I'm so stoked.
tim pool
Don't buy spring heels.
Don't buy exoskeleton suits.
Buy beanies.
Beanies for all.
Beanies for some.
adam crigler
Have you wanted to become a beanie bro?
Well, soon you'll have your chance.
unidentified
With TimCast IRL Beanies.
adam crigler
Coming to you soon.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Soon, yes.
lydia smith
Yes, yes.
tim pool
And these are going to be, like, made in America.
adam crigler
Made in America.
tim pool
Hand-packaged by Triggler himself.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
I'm doing this.
lydia smith
Soy Jesus magic.
tim pool
Soy Jesus.
adam crigler
I'll even sign them for you.
tim pool
Yeah, maybe.
No, we should put, like, little cards in, too, and stuff like that.
And, like, make it a little package.
adam crigler
Some commons.
tim pool
You know what we should do?
No, we should make, like, gag magic cards.
adam crigler
OK.
tim pool
I mean, the beanies can come with magic cards.
adam crigler
Oh, my gosh.
unidentified
That's a great idea.
tim pool
Oh, fun.
Like, silly.
lydia smith
I'm thinking of a game.
adam crigler
Like you, me.
tim pool
Oh, right.
Maybe we should make cancel culture cards.
adam crigler
Well, I mean, I guess we can kind of let people know we're working on it.
tim pool
Everybody knows we're working on it.
adam crigler
Oh, they do?
Yeah.
tim pool
I've talked about it a lot.
Yeah, we talked about it on the show.
adam crigler
Oh, sure.
lydia smith
All the time.
tim pool
We're working on a card game.
It's called Cancel Culture.
adam crigler
Yeah, we're working on a game.
tim pool
And the goal of the... It's a card game.
It's going to be simplified.
We're trying to work out ways to stop it from becoming a rich person's game, like a lot of games, even Pokemon Magic.
Cards become ridiculously expensive.
We're getting rid of all that.
We want a game where you can pop up in the box, and you can play with your friends, and it's really funny, because the goal of the game is that you are trying to cancel your opponent.
adam crigler
Yep.
Cancel culture, baby.
tim pool
So it's basically just a bunch of pop culture references, and the gag is, you know, you'll have a character who's like Peter Jordanson fighting against, you know, Rojogin.
Rojogin or Wet Brinestein.
I mean, those are really, really poorly thought out gag names.
But we're working on, like, making a very silly parody.
Everyone will get torn apart.
No one is safe.
I will say.
adam crigler
Toilet Girl is a thing.
tim pool
And that's the goal for the expansions, is to actually just make, like, when stories come out and there's viral moments, we'll make cards for these things.
Yeah.
But, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, I wanna say one thing about it.
We're gonna make fun of everybody.
adam crigler
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
We're gonna make fun of me.
We're gonna make fun of feminists.
Everyone will get torn apart.
No one will be spared.
But of course, I guarantee you, one side of this is going to laugh at all of the mockery.
And the other side is gonna say it's bigotry and it's sexist and it's, you know, all the awful things.
It's alt-right or whatever.
adam crigler
Whatever.
We're channeling our inner George Carlin.
tim pool
I also want to design a chess set.
A culture war chess set.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Where the pawns on one side are a bunch of, like, fat neckbeards with katanas and, like, fedoras and dusters.
And then the pawns on the other side are big fat mohawk feminists.
And, like, just make, like, a chess board for the culture war would be funny.
adam crigler
I'll leave that to you.
tim pool
But we are working on a card game.
It's gonna be really fun.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
To simplify what we're trying to do is, it's just gonna be pop culture.
So it'll be really funny to have Kathy Griffin, you know, trying to get Joe Rogan banned from the internet, and you're going at it.
And like, you know, things like that.
Just silliness, parody, making fun of people, making fun of this whole culture war stuff.
adam crigler
Yep, we're working on it now, it's coming.
tim pool
So, uh, well, we'll see how long it takes, you know.
We do a lot of things, but maybe soon.
So, uh, let's just grab the last few Super Chats, and then we will sign off for the night, but for now we're still here, so make sure you hit that like button.
Subscribe and hit the notification bell if you haven't already, and get your superchats in because we're gonna be about 10 more minutes.
So let's see what we got.
AJ says, my hometown had a special bow hunt season to handle both deer and turkey overpopulation.
We had, what's a group of turkeys called?
unidentified
A rafter.
tim pool
A rafter of turkeys in front of our house.
lydia smith
Oh really?
tim pool
Yeah, a lot.
It was like, what, like 10 or 12?
lydia smith
Yeah, you sent me a picture.
unidentified
Gobbling about.
tim pool
I was like, why is this happening?
adam crigler
I can hear, because of Red Dead Redemption 2, I can hear the warble.
Of a turkey.
tim pool
Have you ever seen that video where the guy pulls up to all the turkeys and then goes, and then all the turkeys yell back?
adam crigler
No, but it is kind of funny to think about how many animals I've killed in that game.
And I'm a vegan.
It's just like every time I'm like, oh yeah, perfect corpse.
It's gonna make me so much money.
tim pool
Jmax says, My buddy in the AF had corona-like symptoms, and his PCM said it was most likely a cold or allergies and sent him back to the shop.
It's just anecdotal experience, but some military doctors are not competent trained enough to handle this pandemic if it hits our bases hard.
Yikes, man.
I will also mention real quick, too, before we sign off, make sure you follow us.
You can follow me there.
You can follow Adam up there.
adam crigler
Hey, follow me right there.
That's me.
That's my tag.
tim pool
And you can send Adam story ideas and stuff.
adam crigler
It's true.
tim pool
Yeah.
And we've actually picked up some of them and talked about them.
adam crigler
It's also true.
tim pool
Gundanium says, do you think the supply chain, such as truck drivers, are at risk of severe infection by asymptomatic carriers through truck shops and travel?
Yes, of course.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean, a lot of travel makes the spread, you know?
Graboid says, I disagree with you on a lot of stuff, but at the same time, you are constant with your views.
That is one reason I respect you and watch your channels.
But to be fair, people's views change.
If you go back a couple years, you might see me complaining about guns.
I'm gonna be like, no, I think we should definitely have gun control for these reasons.
And then for reasons I've explained today, I've definitely moved right on the issue.
It's funny because Joe Rogan's definitely to the left of me economically, but to the right of me a lot on 2A.
And now I'm coming around on 2A, but I'm not as far left as him in economics.
adam crigler
And people can change.
People can change their minds.
And evolve.
tim pool
Especially when you're dealing with a real crisis, and you start to understand why Trump was right about the threat of China, why he was right about national borders, why he was right about manufacturing, and now we're getting hit with it at the last minute, and you're like, damn.
Yeah, we should have been on this sooner, huh?
So I can respect that.
I still do have criticisms for him, of course.
Sean R says, can we finally see the Invisible Girl?
Well, funny thing.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
I ordered a camera.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
tim pool
And one of the annoying things about it is that Google ads then start showing nothing but it.
So you may have noticed on the other show, there were a bunch of ads for skate ramps and stuff.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
It's so annoying.
It's like, dude, I bought the thing.
I already bought it.
You don't need to advertise it to me again.
lydia smith
You succeeded.
Stop.
adam crigler
Or if you want to buy more.
lydia smith
No.
tim pool
Yeah, I guess.
The same thing again.
So we do have a camera coming, but the problem is It's not a set.
It's like she's at the production table handling camera stuff, so we have to actually set stuff up.
Like, this is set design stuff that Adam did, so you'll get to it.
Deplorabology says, we need to stop obeying unconstitutional laws, or we need to figure out how to deal with it because so many things are unconstitutional for sure.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
PurpleNerd says, do both, nerds.
I don't know what both is a reference to, sorry.
adam crigler
Maybe the globe and the UFO.
tim pool
Oh, right.
lydia smith
So I said to give them equal table time.
tim pool
Where can we put... It's hard.
The UFO is just so much cooler.
I'm sorry, man.
adam crigler
It's just... You know what?
It would be kind of cool if we superimposed, like, had it sitting in a spot that it looked like the UFO was landing on the globe.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
And the globe is spinning and the things are... You know what I mean?
adam crigler
We gotta use perspective.
Forced perspective.
I mean, we do have a lot of space here.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
And it's not like we have a guest.
Yeah.
tim pool
Forced perspective, huh?
lydia smith
Yeah, it'd be good.
tim pool
Oh, and it's like it's beaming up.
That's, I guess, what it's supposed to be.
adam crigler
Yep, that was what I was going for.
tim pool
All right.
Trinidad says, if you allow community design beanies, good luck with the flood of 4chan designs with plenty of 55 and eggplants.
I don't care.
adam crigler
Hey, it's gotta be Timcast related.
tim pool
I mean, I'll take designs in if they make me laugh.
I'm not upset by that.
We're not going to sell them.
adam crigler
We're definitely going to do that with TC.
That's pretty dope.
I like that a lot.
With like a DC logo, but TC.
tim pool
I like it.
Deplora Biology says, cops aren't human.
No, they are.
Yes, they are.
But there are a lot of issues, I definitely think, with the culture for sure.
adam crigler
I've met really cool cops and I've met really nasty cops.
tim pool
It's a culture issue.
adam crigler
It's a spectrum.
They are all out there.
All different types.
tim pool
Spupper says, Alabama has doubled their confirmed cases in 24 hours.
Oh, yeah, boy.
adam crigler
It's getting crazy.
tim pool
What does it say?
I try to be rational says, Ferguson Imperial Colonel predicted deaths have been revised from 510,000 to less than 20k.
This is not true.
I'm sorry.
The apocalyptic numbers are all wrong.
Many experts warned of this error.
It's not true, I'm sorry.
So this guy in, I think he's in the UK, what he said after the fact, and maybe it's true, maybe he's not trying to backpedal, but what he said was, based on social distancing and the measures that are being implemented now, the projection is 20,000 dead.
If we do nothing, it's half a million.
A bunch of people started saying, hey, I thought this guy said it was gonna be half a million, now he's saying it's 20.
So then he came out with a Twitter thread saying, no, no, no, I'm saying that if we do nothing, it'll be 500K, and if we do everything like we're doing now, it'll be 20.
Maybe.
I don't know.
I don't know.
That's what he said.
adam crigler
I like the lower number.
If we're going to have to choose.
tim pool
Yeah.
Ethan Johansson said, Calving, uh, calving season on the farm.
At least my quarantine is full of cute calves running around everywhere.
Beef prices in the toilet, by the way.
Dawn, thanks for becoming a member.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
And then where are we at?
Oh man, there we go.
Fallen Snow Wolf says, some get a high from running.
UFO hovering over the globe.
I got a high from biking.
adam crigler
I get a high from running.
tim pool
When I used to ride my bike like five miles to work from Brooklyn to Manhattan.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And going over the, it was the, I think the Williamsburg Bridge.
adam crigler
It's oxygen.
You're opening up your lungs and you're getting a lot of oxygen in the blood.
tim pool
No, it was the Manhattan Bridge.
adam crigler
It's like a high.
tim pool
I would cross the Manhattan Bridge every day, and that's a brutal climb on a bike, and I would just... And then by the time I got to the top, I was like... Like it was just like... Just like, fly down?
adam crigler
Yeah, but then like... Euphoric, man.
Williamsburg Bridge, that was my jam.
tim pool
I loved skating down it.
adam crigler
Skating up and over.
tim pool
Dude, that bridge is fun, I love it.
adam crigler
Lots of good times there.
tim pool
Not a banned account says, as a Democrat, will you do your part and vote Joe?
I don't consider myself a Democrat.
So no, I would never vote for that man.
Joe Biden?
adam crigler
No.
lydia smith
Joe Rogan?
tim pool
Joe Rogan, yes.
adam crigler
Oh yeah, sure.
Rogan, I'd vote for him.
tim pool
Shun says, the fall boots from a portal of the game.
You can fall from high altitudes without breaking your bones.
I think these are the prototypes to that.
That'd be cool.
Angry Bellsprout says, isn't it ironic that the resist fascism and ban the fash crowd are the ones demanding the government force people into their homes?
Yeah.
Yeah.
About that.
It's funny, right?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Chris, thanks for coming to member.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Rob Duper says, the suit would be good for someone with physical limitations.
Yeah.
See, there you go.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
What is it?
I don't know what else.
I know about the white rabbit.
Wink.
Yes, I totally agree.
I know about the white rabbit. Wink. David Marcella says you're thinking too small with the exoskeleton. Think about
adam crigler
disabled people. Yes, I totally agree. I did not see that.
tim pool
David says I have 85% left side paralysis.
This could help someone like me.
Absolutely, that's cool.
lydia smith
Dude, for my stroke patients, this would be a freaking godsend.
It would paralyze people.
Are you kidding?
tim pool
Well, it's like, it's War Machine, you know?
In Civil War, when War Machine breaks his spine or whatever, and then he gets the XO stuff to help him walk.
adam crigler
Oh yeah, that's right.
tim pool
It was a really cool line in Endgame when War Machine is with Nebula and she's like a robot and she reaches her hand in the thing and pulls the orb out and her hand's all burned.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And she looks at him and says, I wasn't always like this.
And he says, me neither.
And I was like, oh, that's cool, man.
adam crigler
You know, but I was referring to the running faster part of it.
It's like, that's what that was for.
tim pool
I think it's cool.
Well, no, it was saving energy.
adam crigler
I know.
tim pool
Running more.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
Well, I was reading it that they can run 14% faster and it's like... No, they save 40% of their energy.
Oh, you're saving more energy.
tim pool
So you can run 40% more.
adam crigler
Ah, okay, okay.
tim pool
Star Wars Guy says, Hago, Damask, and Chief Palpatine 2024.
Oh, yeah.
Great.
But he's the Senate.
I don't know if he can run for the president.
Cord Funk says, 100%.
You don't gotta just defend a bad idea.
adam crigler
Yep, you can change your mind.
It's okay.
tim pool
That's the crazy thing.
If someone's like, here, Tim, here's why this is wrong, I'll go, I did not realize that.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
unidentified
It's so freeing.
tim pool
So it's like when the background check thing happened, I was like, is that for real?
They shut it down.
I was like, whoa.
adam crigler
Not cool.
tim pool
We can't have background checks if we're gonna do this.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
That's crazy.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And I think I was talking to like Crowder about it too.
And I think he brought stuff up like this and I didn't understand it.
adam crigler
The real thing is people need to learn how to drop their pride.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
You know what, man?
adam crigler
I mean, sticking to it.
Like, well, no, I've been saying this for so long, so I gotta stick to my guns.
It's like, well, if you realize you're wrong, drop your pride, and people will respect you more.
tim pool
How else do you improve yourself?
adam crigler
Yeah, like, we've been talking about these people that are doing these stupid things, and then coming out a couple days later going, you know what?
I'm sorry.
I was stupid.
tim pool
Yep.
adam crigler
I didn't think about this.
And you're like, good on you.
tim pool
It's skateboarding, man.
When I try a trick and it's not working, I stop and think, what am I doing wrong?
I'm doing something wrong.
I have to change what I'm doing.
adam crigler
That's it, everyone.
tim pool
Learn how to skateboard.
Dude, I landed a nollie varial heel flip, nollie backside flip today.
And I was having a hard time with nollie varial heel flips.
And I was like, what am I not getting?
So I changed the way I positioned everything.
So there's like, they tell you, here's how you should put your feet if you're going to do this one trick.
And I was like, nah, I'm going to put them how I just feel like it right now.
I'm going to ignore everybody else and I'm going to figure it out.
And then boom, I landed three in a row.
Felt good.
lydia smith
He did.
It was so cool.
tim pool
It's not like the hardest trick in the world.
It's like a fairly, you know, basic, you know, it's like, it's like, I guess, technically advanced level.
adam crigler
It's not basic.
Get out of here.
Get out of here, dude.
tim pool
Whatever.
adam crigler
No, get out of here.
unidentified
What?
adam crigler
Those are way beyond basic.
tim pool
It's not like I did like nollie varial heel late flip revert or something.
adam crigler
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
But a nollie backside flip felt good.
adam crigler
Those who don't know how to skateboard are like, what is he talking about?
tim pool
Yeah, it's jargon.
adam crigler
Those who are average skateboarders are like, that's not an easy trick.
tim pool
I disagree.
adam crigler
Yeah, because you've been skating for 20 years.
tim pool
Longer, no.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
AJ says, opinion changes happen, but there's usually logical progression or trigger for a flip.
adam crigler
For sure.
I hope there's logical progression.
tim pool
Yeah, seriously.
adam crigler
Yeah.
Alright, let's see.
tim pool
Plague Runner says, hello non-sick people.
I am coming for you.
No, you're not.
unidentified
No, no, no.
lydia smith
No, no, no.
tim pool
Caleb says UFO.
Oh, there it is.
UFO wins.
adam crigler
I think UFO did win.
tim pool
Did it really?
adam crigler
But I don't know if it's people that didn't know about the globe.
There's also people going, what globe?
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
Are you claiming that there's voter suppression?
adam crigler
Yes.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's what I'm hearing.
adam crigler
That's exactly it.
lydia smith
Yeah, man.
adam crigler
Conspiracy!
tim pool
Mr. Paul R. says, treat everyone as if they're infected.
Stock up on TP, lol.
Globe and planet, plenty of space in the screen.
Maybe.
Yeah, maybe both.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Cracklin says, do you think Naruto had more of a right to be upset for being rejected by the Hidden Leaf without a family?
Or Sasuke, whose entire family was killed?
Sasuke's entire family was killed, man.
And it was by his own brother, who spared him and wasn't supposed to.
So the story is basically that the government, the secret police of this village saw this one clan as becoming a growing threat.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
So, ordered one of them to kill everyone, but he couldn't kill his little brother.
And his little brother goes and becomes one of the most powerful, like, fighters.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Yeah.
Naruto, on the other hand, his dad sacrificed his- his parents sacrificed their lives trying to save the village from a giant demon of some sort.
It's hard to explain, so I'll just call it a demon.
And then he, uh, they- they trapped the nine-tailed fox within him, and so he got ostracized for being the embodiment of it, but eventually earns their respect.
adam crigler
But what is this question actually about?
It's not about their backstory, it's about what... Who had more of a right to be upset.
tim pool
And I said Sasuke.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Like, the government literally ordered his entire extended family executed.
Oh, okay.
That's not... Yeah.
You know.
Konami says, The Beanie should have a cute pigeon because Tim Pool looks like one.
I do think pigeons are funny.
adam crigler
They are pretty great.
tim pool
It would be fun to have a little pigeon guy.
Yeah.
The Proud A-Hole MGTOW says, UFO not Godzilla will wake up soon.
John Rosen Generation says, you guys should play Deus Ex and comment on the various predictions the game makes.
It's looking similar to the Grey Death Plague in the game.
adam crigler
Never played that game, but I hear good things about it.
tim pool
I heard people talking about that.
Democracy says, have you heard of talked about the October 19 Global Pandemic Exercise Event 201 yet?
I have not.
We'll check it out.
OPM Studio says, near normalcy in North Carolina.
Kind of surreal watching the rest of the country go into lockdown while we continue our lives almost as though nothing was wrong.
Crazy.
Shun says, they should make shoes that make you run as fast as Sonic the Hedgehog.
Imagine running along the highway passing cars and traffic jams.
Be cool.
adam crigler
And then running into other people.
tim pool
Trinidad says, globe is alive.
Flat spinning thing now.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Jane, thanks for becoming a member.
And Sean says, switch between the globe and the UFO each week.
Problem solved.
adam crigler
Boom.
unidentified
There you go.
adam crigler
Yeah, we'll probably do that.
tim pool
All right.
It's bedtime.
Yes.
We went late.
We went 20 minutes extra for all of you, because we love you all so much.
unidentified
We love you guys.
adam crigler
Yo, thank you, everybody.
unidentified
I appreciate you guys.
adam crigler
Follow us.
Follow me.
tim pool
Send Adam story ideas.
adam crigler
Send me ideas.
tim pool
Subscribe.
Notification bell.
And even if you do, YouTube probably won't.
lydia smith
Turn it off and on again.
tim pool
It probably won't do anything because YouTube hates everybody.
adam crigler
And you can actually find me on YouTube.
Also, I have a YouTube channel with a bunch of old stuff.
tim pool
And we got a lot of stuff coming.
adam crigler
A lot of my music.
tim pool
We got more music coming.
adam crigler
But the music room, it's almost done.
So we're going to start recording our stuff in like a nice environment.
tim pool
The weather is getting nice.
There will be skateboarding.
Go to my Instagram right now.
adam crigler
Skate videos are coming.
tim pool
Go to instagram.com slash timcast.
I just put up a video of me.
You can see how the studio room looks.
And then you see me running out the door.
And you can see where the skate section is.
And so you'll get a kind of view of what the room looks like.
But other than that, it's time to go.
We will see you all tomorrow at 8pm on this show.
adam crigler
Good night.
tim pool
Adios everybody.
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