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March 25, 2020 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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TimcastIRL - Hospitals Push Universal DO NOT RESUSCITATE Orders For Coronavirus Patients
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unidentified
What's going on, everybody?
tim pool
Welcome to the show.
My name is Tim Poole.
adam crigler
And I'm Adam Kriegler.
tim pool
That's Adam.
adam crigler
Hello.
tim pool
We're hanging out.
We also got Lydia of Whiterun chilling.
unidentified
Hello.
lydia smith
Hi.
tim pool
Dude, the news is getting scary.
adam crigler
It is getting scary.
tim pool
Seriously getting scary.
There was a period where it kind of felt like things were chilling out.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
I was feeling better.
Seemed like things might get back to normal.
Trump's talking about getting things back up and going by Easter.
adam crigler
Yeah.
lydia smith
Stock market's rallying.
tim pool
But now we're then then was it the surgeon general said no it's gonna get it's gonna get real bad
And then and then someone posted something I saw this, uh, I don't know where I saw this. They said
april 1st tiktok
adam crigler
What's going on with that rent is due Oh.
tim pool
No one pays rent.
adam crigler
Yeah, right?
tim pool
Nobody's worked for the past, what, week and a half, two weeks?
adam crigler
Two weeks?
tim pool
Most people can't handle a $400 bill.
adam crigler
Let alone two weeks of not working at all.
tim pool
And right now, the funny story that everyone's talking about is that Cheesecake Factory is not gonna pay its rent.
And it's like, it's not necessarily funny, haha.
It's funny, like, people are laughing, like, oh no, Cheesecake Factory, they're joining the Socialist Revolution or something.
That's scary.
It's a major food chain.
adam crigler
I honestly kind of expected them to die off already.
tim pool
Dude, they're always packed.
It's like a big mall restaurant.
adam crigler
I had no idea.
The last time I was in there was with you.
What do you mean to us?
It was a weekend.
tim pool
It was packed.
adam crigler
But it was a weekend.
tim pool
It's not even about whether we want to speculate as to the economic health of the Cheesecake Factory franchise.
adam crigler
April 1st is days away.
tim pool
And many people have just skipped a paycheck or more.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And they're gonna be like, I don't have it.
adam crigler
Yeah, what are they gonna do?
tim pool
I'm not gonna pay it.
adam crigler
Oh, they can't get evicted right now, right?
tim pool
I mean, I don't know.
But this is gonna ripple, man, because check it out.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
That means all of these landlords who are waiting for that money to come in to pay their bills.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Boom, that's when it hits.
It's gonna ripple out like a...
Man, like a gong slam.
unidentified
Boom.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Landlords, then they have no money.
Can't pay the maintenance people.
Here we go.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
And that's just the first thing on the list.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
adam crigler
Man, this is getting scary.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Well, before we get going, I don't know if you guys can see my shirt.
Let me get the mic out of the way.
lydia smith
Check that out.
adam crigler
Check out my nice shirt.
tim pool
For those that are listening.
adam crigler
Anybody recognize this shirt?
tim pool
Adam is wearing a shirt with my beanie on it.
adam crigler
I am wearing his beanie on my shirt.
lydia smith
Very cute.
adam crigler
This came in the mail today.
It's the wrong colors, but it's pretty sweet.
tim pool
It's OK.
lydia smith
It's clearly a beanie.
adam crigler
This needs to be darker, but I think it's great.
You know what's funny?
It actually matches my colored beanie.
tim pool
It's a fusion.
adam crigler
It's a fusion of our beanies.
tim pool
All right, all right.
Anyway, even though the world is ending, we all have a good laugh.
adam crigler
Get your beanie shirt.
tim pool
And then we have a nervous laugh because it's getting scary out there, man.
But hey, before we get started with the first story, which is one of the scariest things I have ever heard, hospitals are basically saying, you die, you die, you die, and we're not going to save you.
This is from the Washington Post.
Hospitals consider universal do not resuscitate order for coronavirus patients.
That basically means If you are brought to the hospital with coronavirus and you start going into it, they're gonna be like, yeah, it's nice knowing you, buddy.
adam crigler
I mean, they'll put you on the ventilator though, right?
Is that the case?
lydia smith
I don't know.
adam crigler
Or is it after?
tim pool
No, I don't know.
adam crigler
After that and then it doesn't work, then it's like, nothing else we can do.
tim pool
Maybe.
lydia smith
I would think that they would draw the line at trying to resuscitate.
Obviously, DNRs do not resuscitate.
So doing compressions and stuff, that's like emergency.
tim pool
They're talking about all hands responses.
So you're on a ventilator, you start spazzing out, they're going to be like, nope, there he goes.
adam crigler
Nothing we can do.
tim pool
Dude, I was reading some of these stories and they said that there were people who were on ventilators and you can see them slowly turning blue.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
Oxygen in their lungs on maximum pressure because the fluid buildup was so intense.
That even with pure oxygen, and they have the machine blowing air in and pulling out, your lungs are always inflated, you're not breathing, you're just knocked out with a tube down your throat, and people are slowly turning blue because they were getting no oxygen.
So they're basically like, you know what?
We can't do anything about it.
adam crigler
I mean, how do you do anything about it other than like operating and taking out the fluid or scraping the sides of the lungs?
You can't, you can't.
lydia smith
It's a fine network.
adam crigler
Can you even do that?
lydia smith
No, because... It's a fine network of really, really tiny little capillaries.
unidentified
Little balloons.
tim pool
Yeah, that's where the oxygen comes in.
And what I was reading is they said that when they fill with fluid and then they put people on the ventilators at max pressure, it starts breaking up all the little, what are they called, like alveoli or something?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Whatever.
unidentified
Alveoli.
tim pool
They start bursting and then they become completely useless.
Oh.
adam crigler
So the ventilators are actually having a negative effect.
tim pool
Well, you're dead without it, but it slowly rips your lungs apart.
Dude, people don't get it, man.
adam crigler
This is insane.
tim pool
Listen, listen, listen.
They're saying the hospitalization rate is 20%, right?
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Like, you realize that means if we don't have hospitals, the mortality rate's like 20%.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's true.
tim pool
If somebody needs to be in a hospital because they're collapsing, that's a bit of an exaggeration.
It's not 20% because some people need to be in hospitals just for observation because they're getting bad.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But if it's even 10% of people, Because Governor Cuomo said 15%.
New York has, right now, according to Cuomo, 10,600 beds available.
ICU beds.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
That means they can handle, based on their own numbers, 70,000 people in New York City getting sick.
8 million people live in New York City.
adam crigler
Alone, just the city.
tim pool
And this is spreading fast.
adam crigler
I thought it was 9 million.
tim pool
It's probably, I mean, look.
adam crigler
Pretty sure it's 9 now.
lydia smith
8.6 or something?
tim pool
Yeah, but when you combine the suburbs, places like New Rochelle or like, What else you got?
You got Westchester?
No, no, no, no.
What's north of New York on the western of Manhattan?
I don't know.
Whatever it's called.
adam crigler
Yonkers?
tim pool
Yeah, there's Yonkers.
Isn't Westchester?
unidentified
Is that it there?
lydia smith
I would imagine.
Oh, they're on the west.
tim pool
I don't know.
Whatever.
The point is, it goes up to like 13 million.
So, that's why everyone's freaking out.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Because people don't realize the mortality rate's down because people are working overtime in hospitals.
adam crigler
Yep.
So, I don't know, man.
Once we reach maximum, like, full capacity, basically, it's like, then the deaths are just gonna really start going up.
Yep.
Because right now we're, like, handling it as best we can with the load that we can take care of.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Man.
tim pool
Well, so we're at this point now.
The Washington Post is reporting it.
But guess what?
This story that we're seeing about the Washington Post, it's been repeated by El Pais in Spain and in Italy.
They're getting to the point where it's in different forms, but it's basically deciding that you must die now.
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
It's your time.
And the scary thing is, this is the most extreme I've ever seen it, where they're saying universal DNR.
So like in Italy and Spain they're basically saying perhaps we just let the old people die and prioritize the young.
Yeah.
adam crigler
They're not even saying that.
tim pool
Right here they're saying everybody.
adam crigler
Anyone.
tim pool
Everybody.
adam crigler
Anyone who reaches that point.
tim pool
And that's the other thing too.
We got a bunch of stories here about young people who are dead.
21-year-old, 25-year-old, 22-year-old.
Was that a 17-year-old?
That was a 17-year-old.
adam crigler
So you were saying there was an infant?
lydia smith
There's a two-month-old right now on life support, and there's a newborn in isolation.
adam crigler
And it's because they have coronavirus?
And it's like, they've been reporting, as far as I remember, that it doesn't affect kids.
Doesn't hit kids at all.
tim pool
No, no, dude.
The media is full of it.
They're probably full of it right now.
I have no idea what's going on.
adam crigler
I have no idea.
tim pool
Because from the end of January till mid-February, the media was going nuts, saying, eh, the flu's worse.
And now a bunch of people are saying that, and they're going, Those dumb conspiracy theorists.
Bro, they were reading your news outlet.
The Washington Post on, what was it, February 4th.
Get a grip, America.
The flu is way worse.
Where we at now?
A month later.
We will not try and save your life.
I'm sorry.
Thanks, Washington Post.
That's on you.
You know, look, I was critical of the president for having downplayed the response.
But now the media is trying to act like they were right as well.
No, everybody got this one wrong.
Not everybody.
Tucker was right.
Tucker Carlson, Fox News, was on this real early.
February 3rd, I think.
But there were a lot of people who were on this early, and it wasn't the media.
They were the ones who were dancing around talking about how there's a meme going around.
It's not really a meme, but it's this graphic of all of these different news articles.
It's ridiculous.
Like 25, 30, maybe even like 40 news articles where it's like, the flu is worse, the flu is worse, ignore this.
Trump is exaggerating.
He's a bigot.
All this crazy stuff where they downplayed it.
And this is where we get to be right now.
adam crigler
So this article is crazy.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
Well, let's uh, let's let's let's read let's read but Real quick before we do if you guys want to get in the super chat and have your questions answered by us We will jump over and make sure you subscribe if you want to get more videos, but let's let's read from the Washington Post They say hospitals on the front lines of the pandemic are engaged in a heated private debate over a calculation few have encountered in their lifetimes.
How to weigh the quote save at all costs approach to resuscitating a dying patient against the real danger of exposing doctors and nurses to the contagion of coronavirus.
The conversations are driven by the realization that the risk to staff amid dwindling stores of protective equipment such as masks, gowns, and gloves may be too great to justify the conventional response when a patient codes and their heart or breathing stops.
Northwestern Memorial Hospital in Chicago has been discussing a universal do-not-resuscitate policy for infected patients, regardless of the wishes of the patient or their family members.
A wrenching decision to prioritize the lives of the many over the one.
I want you to imagine something right now.
I want you to imagine that's you inside a hospital, and that's your mom on a breathing tube, and all of a sudden you start hearing beeping going off, and you start screaming, help her please, and the doctor holds you back and says, no.
Dude, the people who downplayed this stuff.
The people who joked and laughed about it.
The people who think it's not happening.
It's like, I'll tell you what, man.
When it finally comes to you, this is worse than, you know, the grasshopper and the ant.
The story where the grasshopper, you know the story?
Yeah.
I talked about this when it came to supplies.
Like, you know, when the store shelves get, you know, shredded, you know, you're gonna be, you're gonna come knocking, this is way worse.
It's gonna be you on your knees begging, please save my mom, save my dad, save my friend, save my spouse, whatever.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And it's not, and we could have seen this coming.
Check this out.
In Italy, The extraordinary decision facing Italian doctors.
There are now simply too many patients for each one of them to receive adequate care.
A lot of people think it's not happening.
adam crigler
Yeah, they've reached critical mass over there in Italy.
So now it's like, getting to that point.
tim pool
And that was two weeks ago.
adam crigler
That was two weeks ago.
So they're saying now that Italy's getting... So for the past two weeks, they've had to make these choices.
tim pool
Yep.
So check it out.
I'm seeing a lot of people say things like, I don't know anybody who has this.
Right.
lydia smith
Good for you.
adam crigler
What does that mean?
That's some selfish attitude right there.
tim pool
It's like, dude, have you watched any of these videos?
Man, there was a 22-year-old kid.
Let me just show you some stuff, man.
I want to come back to this though.
21-year-old woman with no underlying health conditions dies of coronavirus.
What do people think that, like, all of these different governments and people who hate each other are working on the secret plot?
Like, Trump and the Democrats are working together to trick people?
Like, that's ridiculous, man.
adam crigler
Do you think she was a smoker?
I don't know.
Because I hear that if you're a smoker, it's significantly worse.
lydia smith
It does make it more likely.
adam crigler
So, I mean, I'm hearing all these younger people are dying, and it's like, were they smokers?
Because, I mean, I used to be a smoker, and I haven't... I quit smoking six years ago.
So it's been a long time since I've had a cigarette, but I hear it's really bad for your lungs in general, let alone a lung disease that's attacking your lungs.
tim pool
Listen, we just watched some videos before we went live, and I can't confirm them, so that's why I'm not going to pull them up.
But I believe they're more likely than not real of things going down in China to this day.
China's lying, man.
adam crigler
Definitely.
tim pool
There's a video going viral of like a bunch of different clips of China having like the
entire highway is full of like 12 major trucks spraying disinfectant.
adam crigler
Yeah, out of these huge like cannon looking things.
tim pool
There's people, there's like, one clip is a person just, like, laying on a bench and a bunch of guys, a couple guys in hazmat suits come and just, like, start taking the bodies.
There's videos where someone's driving down the street and there's just bodies on the sidewalk everywhere.
I kind of feel like, you know, it's crazy because right now it feels like the media, especially Trump, they're desperately trying to keep everybody, keep the morale up.
Trump is saying we're going to get back, you know, the economy is going to kick back into gear on Easter.
He's like, that's my goal right now.
He's like, we'll confer with the health experts and we'll see what's going on.
Dr. Fauci said we'll be flexible.
I think Trump is doing that because he wants to give people some certainty right now.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So that, you know, there's going to be a lot of people who think, uh, okay, I'm going to invest in the market.
Let's get the economy working again, because it sounds like we may have an opportunity to make some money here if we get, you know, get going in Easter.
I'm willing to bet once we get to Easter, the doctors and Trump are going to say, we're really close.
We did an assessment.
We think we need one more week.
And then a week's gonna go by, and they're gonna say, everything's going great, the market's gonna be rallying now because we have some certainty.
adam crigler
One more week.
Three months later.
tim pool
Or something happens, and I think it just, you know, here's the big challenge.
Hospitals need money.
Hospitals need resources.
And we can't, if the economy collapses, people die.
adam crigler
And the hospitals are only gonna be able to run for so long.
tim pool
Yep.
And what happens when healthcare workers on the front line start deserting?
adam crigler
Or the electric companies, like their employees, can't make it back to work because some of them are dying and the electricity goes out.
You know, then people are really screwed.
tim pool
Man, it feels like we are dangerously close to the precipice on this one.
adam crigler
It's really getting scarier and scarier every day, man.
tim pool
But here's the thing, man.
The past week, it kind of felt like things were getting back to normal almost.
Not entirely, but it felt like it got really scary and then started to get a little less scary.
Like the store had milk again.
adam crigler
Well, it looks like it looks like the graph, because if you look at the graph from China goes up and then it kind of teeters off for a while and then spikes again.
Yeah, it felt it feels like we're in we were in that little stage where we're like, wait, is it is it under control?
Is it is it what's going on?
And then now it's like, oh, wow, it's way worse than we thought.
tim pool
It actually gets a little bit scarier, so take a look at this story.
Spanish doctors prepare to make difficult decisions if intensive care units reach capacity.
Officials admit the worst is yet to come as Spain exceeds 1,000 deaths and field hospitals start going up across the country.
This is from the 20th.
Now, over back at the original story, it's not just about this one hospital's universal DNR.
It's that other hospitals across the country have started deciding to prioritize who lives and who dies.
It's no longer that if you're in the hospital, we'll try and save you.
Now it's like... Look, man.
We only got so many beds.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Here, let's read a little bit more.
Officials at George Washington University Hospital in the district say they had similar conversations, but for now will continue to resuscitate COVID-19 patients using modified procedures, such as putting plastic sheeting over the patient to create a barrier.
The University of Washington Medical Center in Seattle, one of the country's major hotspots for infections, is dealing with the problem by severely limiting the number of responders to a contagious patient in cardiac or respiratory arrest.
Several large hospital systems, Atrium Health in the Carolinas, Geisinger in Pennsylvania, and regional Kaiser Permanente networks are looking at guidelines that would allow doctors to override the wishes of the coronavirus patient or family members on a case-by-case basis due to the risk to doctors and nurses or a shortage of protective equipment.
Oh, how nice.
ethicists and doctors involved in those conversations. But they would stop short of imposing a do
not resuscitate order on every coronavirus patient. The companies declined to comment.
I want you to think about what that means. They stopped short of imposing it on every
patient. Oh, how nice. That means they're literally going to be deciding, you know what,
we are not going to save that person. Yeah. So now I want you to imagine that scenario
said again, you're in the hospital, it's your mom and she's got a ventilator. And all of
sudden beep beeping panic.
Across the room is a guy, beeping in panic.
And the doctors run in, and there's a doctor in the hallway and he says, not her, him.
And you say, what about my mom?
And he says, we will not save her.
No.
Back up.
Back up.
And then a cop comes in and drags you out, and you watch your mom die as they drag you away.
Maybe it's a little extreme, but these conversations scare me.
lydia smith
I don't want to get to that point.
tim pool
I have a vivid imagination.
adam crigler
Now, if you will, the doctor gets coronavirus because he's trying to save the mom, and then the entire staff gets it, and then all of a sudden there's no more staff.
tim pool
Or actually something I think is worse.
It's, you know, I've read these stories about doctors who have gotten sick, and a couple have lost their lives.
In North Jersey, there was this guy, he was like, his whole life, he was like, in his late 70s, and he contracted it trying to save people and died, and to me, that's like, it's a very honorable way to go, you know?
It's sad to hear it.
But what's scary to me is the dishonorable way to go.
When doctors start saying, I'm not getting this man, I've seen what it does, and they bail out.
Nurses start saying, for what?
For why?
Watching people die every day, getting paid nothing, working 14-hour days, and your family's without toilet paper?
I know that sounds like kind of funny, but I mean like, your family has lack of resources, you can't pay your rent, you're not making nearly enough, and you're like, I have to go.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
We need to get out of the city, this is unsustainable.
Then it all breaks.
The dam breaks.
So, the crazy thing right now, you know, as we're talking about this, somehow, The Democrats blocked the emergency bill again.
It's not the same as like, on Monday they voted to stop it, which is a hard block.
On Tuesday they voted to stop it, hard block.
Today they just didn't vote on it.
Like even though in the Senate they did.
So I don't want to get too political.
But when you look at this story from the Washington Post, which is, it's from today, it's actually from only a couple hours ago, where we're actually entertaining the conversation where doctors will not try to save you.
And we have time?
So many people on Twitter are saying things like, the stimulus bill isn't enough money for me to pay my rent.
I don't care.
You're getting something.
You're getting four months of guaranteed wages from the federal government.
This is unprecedented.
And they want to get money to hospitals and states.
Governor Cuomo said, not enough.
We need 10 times as much.
It's like, we'll take this for now.
Let's push this through as fast as we can.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And then maybe we'll do something.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I didn't write the bill.
There's, there's probably, you know, there's some Republicans are now are saying it's got some bad stuff in it.
All I know is I think our country is panicking.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
I think for as much as, you know what, I think, I'll tell you what, Donald Trump's approval rating is gonna go 9,900%.
As things get crazier and scarier and scarier, people are gonna say, shut up, I don't care anymore, save my family.
adam crigler
Save us.
tim pool
When I go to the TV and I see, when I saw what I saw today in Congress, that freaked me out.
I was dumbfounded.
adam crigler
Right, they were only open for like a minute, you said?
tim pool
A minute, yeah, it was called a pro forma.
lydia smith
Yeah, it's just a formality.
tim pool
Because they're not allowed to skip sessions a certain number of times, like three days in a row.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
tim pool
So they apparently went in, banged it, walked out.
adam crigler
So it didn't consider it.
tim pool
It still was a session.
It's considered a session.
And it was from at 10 a.m.
and 42 seconds until 10.02 and 17 seconds or something like that.
Like a minute and 20 seconds or something.
adam crigler
How was that considered a session?
tim pool
Because they were in there.
They said, no business.
adam crigler
How many people were in there?
tim pool
I don't know.
adam crigler
I don't know.
tim pool
This just was reported by Politico.
adam crigler
My goodness.
tim pool
But here's the thing.
When you turn on the TV, Trump's doing his daily press briefings.
adam crigler
Yeah, every day.
tim pool
And he's saying, we have hope.
And what's the press doing?
They're attacking him like crazy.
adam crigler
What is their goal?
What is their goal?
I have no idea.
Because if he's trying to give everyone hope, and they're saying, he's lying, he's lying.
It's like, so what?
You don't want us to hope?
You don't want the general public to think there's a chance we can come out of this?
What is their point?
tim pool
CNN wrote a story that said Trump peddles unsubstantiated hope.
What?
adam crigler
It doesn't make any sense.
I don't understand the media, man.
tim pool
I mean, it's clicks, it's money, it's rage bait.
adam crigler
I hope at least coming out of this, which I think will come out of this, people will learn to not care and start new news.
tim pool
According to a CBS poll, the American people now trust Donald Trump more than the national media.
That was it.
lydia smith
I'm like, I'm done!
adam crigler
Imagine telling people like two, three years ago, four years ago, when he was running for president, and it's like, there's gonna be a day that you trust him more than the news.
Everyone's gonna be like, no, no.
But here we are.
tim pool
You know what it is?
I think it's, for one, his TV ratings, his press briefings, just broke 12.2 million views.
More than Monday Night Football.
adam crigler
Wow.
Well, there is no Monday Night Football, so people are kinda itching for something.
tim pool
Right, right.
The Nielsen rating said it's Monday Night Football ratings.
adam crigler
It's huge.
tim pool
Right, comparatively.
Like rivaling the Bachelor season finale.
unidentified
Massive.
adam crigler
So you have- Was the Bachelor that good?
tim pool
No.
No, no, no, no.
adam crigler
You know like 20- I've never seen The Bachelor.
I don't know anything about it.
tim pool
You know like Big Bang Theory gets 20 million viewers, right?
adam crigler
Are you serious?
tim pool
Yes.
unidentified
Why?
adam crigler
Really?
unidentified
Why?
adam crigler
I've only seen one episode and I didn't laugh.
And I was just like, what am I watching?
tim pool
So here's what I think is happening, right?
We have these stories like the one in the Washington Post about hospitals basically saying, you know, do not resuscitate.
We're going to choose to let you go or something.
And then that's scary.
It's getting really scary.
And the economy is tanking.
Rent is due.
People can't skip these paychecks.
And so they're looking for answers as things get bad.
They turn on the TV and there's Trump, there's Dr. Fauci.
People trust Fauci more than double that of Trump.
It's something like 80-some-odd percent trust Dr. Fauci and 44% trust Trump.
unidentified
Right, they trust professionals.
adam crigler
What's so big about this?
He's a scientist?
Is that why?
tim pool
He's a doctor.
adam crigler
He's a practicing doctor.
lydia smith
He's a doctor for the administration.
He's worked with several administrations.
tim pool
And I think he handles specifically infectious disease.
So here's what people see.
On January 29th, Trump formed this task force.
Democrats are trying to impeach him.
On the 31st, he imposed travel restrictions.
Now, you can criticize him all day for downplaying the severity of this early on.
Everyone was.
adam crigler
Biden called him a xenophobe.
tim pool
Yeah, he said, yep, xenophobic, travel restrictions.
adam crigler
And then I watched that interview with Biden and some reporter, and it was just embarrassing.
He tried to flip it.
Dude, I think... And I was like, I know what happened.
You are trying to flip it right now, and it's not working, bro.
I think... He's cringy, man.
tim pool
I'm starting to feel like, you know, there was a big market rally today, so maybe things might turn around a little bit.
Hopefully things don't get worse, but this story from the Washington Post is really alarming.
But I think, you know, I was exaggerating when I said Trump will hit like 100%.
I think it's gonna go up a lot because he is independent.
adam crigler
120%.
tim pool
No, but maybe like 70.
adam crigler
Yeah.
That would have surprised me.
tim pool
Yeah.
Right now his approval rating for the handling of the coronavirus outbreak is 60% according to Gallup.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
And Gallup's a trustworthy outlet.
If you look at the past four, well above water.
55, 56, 58, you know.
And Gallup was the biggest, a 22 point pull ahead.
And here's what I want to get to.
Here's the point I want to make.
When you look at Congress, the Democrats and the Republicans negotiate all weekend Come into an agreement.
Come Monday, Nancy Pelosi steps in, Democrats say no.
Everyone's shocked.
Come Tuesday, we're not going to vote on it, they vote it down.
Blocked again.
Everyone's shocked.
All night, they negotiate.
At 1 in the morning, the Democrats and Republicans announced they had an agreement.
They were celebrating.
adam crigler
That's really amazing.
tim pool
I was the first thing I recorded.
I was like, this is really cool.
I was like, I'm glad that they got it done.
I'm not going to sit here and rag on the Democrats.
They got some gains.
They negotiated.
Republicans gave a little space.
Increased the number in some areas.
Congratulations, everybody.
We got it done for America.
And then Pelosi was like, no vote.
And so what I see there is, you know, I was asking a friend, I couldn't believe it.
I had to ask someone else, like, am I seeing this?
Is this really happening?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And what he said was, Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats can't control the progressives because they will absolutely say no, because they don't care.
So you have the, you know, the Republicans and Democrats in Congress finally saying, OK, OK, this works for us and let's get it done.
Let's get it done fast.
adam crigler
They're like, oh, they're giving us some leeway.
We got to use this.
tim pool
Well, yes.
adam crigler
Squeeze them for more.
tim pool
They want environmental provisions, like Nancy Pelosi's bill.
adam crigler
Isn't there a stimulus package to help the American people?
I'm just clarifying, just for my own, like, yeah, that's it, right?
lydia smith
That's what it is.
tim pool
Okay.
But the issue here, I'm not trying to make it super political, the issue is just that the Democrats are fractured.
They don't agree with each other.
adam crigler
Clearly.
tim pool
Right.
If the Democrats in the Senate say, we're good on this, we negotiate it, and we're happy, then why won't the House Democrats be like, all right, we're good to go?
Because they're not a unified party.
So then when you turn on the TV, and you're looking for answers, and you're seeing nothing but chaos in Congress, you then see the President, you see the people all around him, and he's saying things like, this medication has been promising, he actually said, it might work, it might not, I'm hopeful, I think it'll work, we're gonna try and push this one through and do what we can.
And then he got attacked for it.
adam crigler
Yeah, and then now the woman whose husband died for drinking fish cleaner.
Or fish... Intestinal clean-out.
tim pool
Yeah, parasites.
Look, as far as I'm concerned...
adam crigler
And they're running with that story.
I still see stuff today about it.
lydia smith
No, I keep seeing it.
adam crigler
It's like, are you kidding me?
You're still running with this story?
It's so bad.
tim pool
The New York Times.
adam crigler
Anyone with any logic would see right through that.
tim pool
Here's how they launder information.
The New York Times wrote a story about Trump's ratings going through the roof and his approval ratings going through the roof.
And in it, they passively say, Trump has been heavily criticized for encouraging people to consume a dangerous product or a product that is unproven to help, which resulted in a man dying after ingesting a similar compound.
adam crigler
So they slip that in there.
tim pool
Yep.
And now that New York Times story becomes historical reference.
It goes on Wikipedia, it goes in encyclopedias, and they say Trump did it.
It's like, dude, the guy never said to take powdered fish antiparasitics and put it in your drink and drink it.
I know.
That's insane.
adam crigler
And it's like...
Yeah, exactly.
It's ridiculous.
These people are crazy.
tim pool
Long story short, the point I was trying to get to with this past, you know, bit is that I don't want to be, I don't know, a doomsayer, but these past few stories I've been reading, it does not sound good.
I've tried to be optimistic and say like, hey, you know, like the market's rallying, this is good news.
But you look at what's happening in some other countries and there's a bit of good news, but I think China's lying.
Because you see these videos that are circulating and they're recent ones.
Don't believe them.
Like, I don't believe what China's saying.
adam crigler
I see these videos and it's like... Yeah, they're saying that, uh, no more infections.
lydia smith
Yeah, they were on that steep uphill climb.
Then they're like, oh, oh, we're done.
adam crigler
Oh, we figured it out.
lydia smith
That's crazy.
adam crigler
We figured it out.
We just won't tell anybody.
tim pool
But we're still going to commandeer exports.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Not going to give you those masks you need.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
Good luck with that.
tim pool
So I don't, I don't know.
Here's what, here's what I'm, here's what's worrying to me.
It looks like with today watching how the Democrats handled things.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
It seems like our government is in a panic.
adam crigler
It's disarray.
I think so too.
Yeah.
I agree.
tim pool
Except for Trump.
adam crigler
He's keeping it together, he's trying.
tim pool
But I'm not saying he's like a steadfast, vigilant soldier.
He's just less panicky and spazzy than the rest of them.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
You know, like, he's actually coming out saying, here's what we're gonna do.
It's like, okay.
adam crigler
You know, a lot of those, a lot of the congressmen and women are in a comfortable bubble.
And that bubble's being popped right now because they're susceptible.
A lot of them are older, you know, and you got all these stupid young people running around doing stuff, like spreading it around.
They're scared.
tim pool
Let's actually do this.
Let's just show some of these stories.
unidentified
Oh yeah, sure.
tim pool
So the first one I want to show is Washington State football player Bryce Beekman found dead at 22 after experiencing breathing problems as the school remains closed due to coronavirus.
This in no way has anything to do with coronavirus.
The headline just put that in there.
Everyone is locked down.
Everyone is locked down.
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah.
Someone was saying to us yesterday that, or maybe the other day, that her friend's grandma passed away and they just... There's any death that's happening right now?
tim pool
No, that's... That story?
adam crigler
What was that?
tim pool
That's another fake text meme.
adam crigler
Oh, it was?
Yep.
tim pool
I have heard that exact same story.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
My friend said that, you know, their grandma, and I've heard the exact same thing from like 10 people now.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
Good to know, good to know.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, I don't know, maybe it's true.
adam crigler
Well, then what's this one?
What's this one about then?
tim pool
So, this is just the media taking advantage.
Now, it's possible this dude did have coronavirus.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
Because there have been a lot of videos coming out of some of these other countries where somebody will be walking and all of a sudden they'll just collapse because they didn't realize how sick they were.
There are stories about people who felt fine and then within an hour had a crazy fever and shortness of breath and were like wheezing.
It's possible.
He didn't know.
But I think what they're doing here is trying to... Coronavirus!
unidentified
Look!
tim pool
He died!
adam crigler
Click on me!
Click on this link!
tim pool
However, there are stories.
There was a 17 year old.
Now, this is a different story, but a 17-year-old died.
The locals are saying, yes, it was coronavirus.
State officials are saying, no, no, no, wait, wait, wait, we don't know for sure.
We don't know for sure.
adam crigler
Well, who knows for sure?
tim pool
I don't know.
But we have this one at least.
So this is a 21-year-old woman, reportedly died of the coronavirus in UK, and is believed to be the youngest person in the country with no underlying health conditions to succumb to the bug.
The family of Buckinghamshire resident Chloe Middleton posted the grim news Tuesday on Facebook, according to local media.
To all the people out there that thinks it's just a virus, please think again.
Speaking from personal experience, this so-called virus has taken the life of my 21-year-old daughter, said her mom, Diane Middleton.
Chloe's aunt, Emily Mystery, also posted about the young girl's COVID-19-related death on Facebook and noted that her beautiful and kind-hearted niece had no underlying health issues.
My loved ones are going through the most unimaginable pain.
We are shattered beyond belief.
The reality of this virus is only just unfolding before our very eyes.
Please, please adhere to government guidelines, do your bit, protect yourself and protect others.
The virus isn't spreading.
People are spreading the virus, the relative added.
The post went on to say, life as we know it has changed dramatically, but unless we all act now to protect ourselves and others, the longer this turmoil and anguish will go on.
The UK's youngest victim is an 18-year-old with significant underlying health issues who died in Coventry, West Midlands after contracting COVID-19, but the virus was not said to be his direct cause of death.
So there's similar stories.
They're calling them COVID complications or complications related to COVID.
Okay, so that's the one we already have.
Check this one out.
New Jersey athlete, 25, who works at Bank of America is in an induced coma after doctors lost his coronavirus test results as his mom slams NBA players for being tested before her very sick son.
Look, man, there's gonna be a lot of progressive lefties saying, The system is broken.
Rich people are getting tests.
There was a viral tweet where someone said the easiest way to get tested for coronavirus is to cough in the face of a rich person and wait for their results to come back.
Because it is.
It's celebrities and athletes who are just snapping their fingers and getting tested when they want it.
It's true.
Now, I can understand the politicians.
lydia smith
Right.
That's a little bit different.
tim pool
But Ryan Reynolds said it best.
We all know the people who are going to get through this, the celebrities.
Well, I love it.
After ping pong players, you know, that was great.
adam crigler
And 400 other people.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
I got to admit, it is it is crazy to hear all these stories.
And not really be experiencing it, you know?
It's like surreal.
And that's why I think a lot of people defer to conspiracy theories.
So easily online, people are saying, this can't be real.
I don't know anybody who's affected by this.
I haven't seen anybody.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
It's like, I don't know anybody who has the flu.
Do you?
adam crigler
No, but we gotta stop comparing it to the flu anyway.
tim pool
Right, right.
But what I mean is like, are you also going to say, I don't know anybody who has a cold right now?
lydia smith
That doesn't matter.
tim pool
Right, that's what I'm saying.
So it looks like we're dealing with something really serious and a lot of people have been downplaying it in a rather, I guess, unfortunate way.
Cavalier, yeah.
Yeah, Cavalier.
And, man, I can only go back to thinking, like, if we don't have these hospital beds, how much higher will the mortality rate get and will young people be affected by it?
adam crigler
Yeah, right.
tim pool
So one of the things they've been doing is putting people in induced comas.
Actually, let's read, try and figure out, maybe they'll say why.
They say a 25-year-old New Jersey man is fighting for his life in an induced coma after doctors lost his coronavirus test results that confirmed he had the deadly virus.
Okay, well, what do you mean?
They lost it, but they know.
adam crigler
They lost it, but it's confirmed.
tim pool
Okay, well then we know.
Let's move on.
adam crigler
That doesn't make sense.
lydia smith
Alright then.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
He has been on a ventilator in a medically-induced coma for six days at a hospital in Edison.
Allard, who is an All-American lacrosse player and works at the Bank of America in Manhattan, first became sick on March 13th.
He was suffering from a high fever, back pain, and had been throwing up.
Allard initially didn't present as a typical coronavirus patient given his age, that he had no pre-existing conditions, and the fact he hadn't traveled overseas recently.
His mother, Jenny Allard, told ABC News that the lab that was processing his COVID-19 test results somehow lost the sample.
She said it set back his treatment about five days.
Oh, so that's what they're trying to say.
So it was confirmed they didn't have it, so he couldn't get treated for it.
adam crigler
Oh.
tim pool
Due to the delay in returning a positive test, he wasn't allowed access to potentially life-saving experimental drugs.
Oh, yeah.
Cuomo is saying exactly what Trump said.
Hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin, and other, you know, what are they called?
Like, xythromax or something?
lydia smith
A Zithromax?
tim pool
A Zithromax?
Is that what it is?
lydia smith
I think that's what it's called.
tim pool
I don't know.
I think the brand name is like Zithromax or something.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
But then you have some, like, governor, I think it's Nevada, banning it.
I don't even know what's going on.
lydia smith
Yeah, he banned it.
adam crigler
I swear to God.
Banning the medicine itself?
tim pool
Yeah, you're saying you can't be treated for it.
Probably because... Why?
You know what, man?
adam crigler
Because some stupid person drank some fish cleaner?
tim pool
Probably.
lydia smith
That is exactly why.
adam crigler
Or whatever.
tim pool
Because the media claimed it was Trump's fault that someone drank fish anti-parasitic.
adam crigler
Oh, man.
tim pool
People are so stupid.
lydia smith
Yeah, dude.
tim pool
So they say that his mother has since slammed health officials giving NBA players, you know, access to tests, but his son's being bungled.
She said, my son is healthy, no pre-existing conditions, and he's 25.
This virus is really dangerous, and now he is very, very sick.
I want to say something.
I want to imagine this crisis like a tsunami.
Imagine you're standing in the middle of the street, and a bunch of people start running
and screaming past you.
And you're standing there going like, what's going on?
Why is everyone running?
And they say, there's a tsunami coming, run!
And you go, I don't know.
I don't know about that. I can't see it from here.
You guys run, something's not right. None of my friends are running.
Yeah. And then 10 minutes later you're standing there going like, see no tsunami.
Oh man, there's the tsunami. And you're dead. This is a challenge. I understand why people
are skeptical of all this because, you know, part of me in the back of my head, I'm like,
can this really be happening? Like, I...
Optimism bias, I can't believe it.
You know what, man?
I don't think all of these super wealthy global elites who are trying to form this big economic bloc in Europe would sacrifice decades of their vision for this.
I agree.
What Germany and Austria and France are doing, shutting down their borders, essentially undermining the entirety of the European Union that they've been trying to put together for decades.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't know if I believe they would want to do that, let alone all these companies giving up billions upon billions of dollars, politicians.
Like Rand Paul is in on it?
unidentified
I'm sorry dude, I don't buy it, man.
tim pool
No, no, no.
I don't believe it.
adam crigler
You know, every time I see someone's dying, I want to know more information.
Are they smokers?
Are they vegan?
I know that's a random sidebar, but have you seen Game Changers?
I don't know if anyone has seen Game Changers, but it's specifically about what animal protein does to the blood and how it lessens the ability to have the body move oxygen through the body.
It clouds the blood up so that oxygen doesn't get around as easily.
lydia smith
So if that's the case, then I'd be curious why this hasn't happened earlier.
adam crigler
What hasn't happened earlier?
lydia smith
Like a viral attack like this.
tim pool
What do you mean?
lydia smith
It kind of weakens us.
tim pool
Spanish flu.
lydia smith
Well, it was 100 years ago.
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
Nothing's changed in the way we eat, right?
adam crigler
Dude, well, I mean, it could have happened at any point.
lydia smith
Yeah, OK.
adam crigler
It doesn't matter when.
It's a matter of it did.
tim pool
Well, here's the thing.
Listen, listen.
You bring up a really good point.
adam crigler
I'm just curious.
I want to know more information about everyone that's dying.
unidentified
Right.
adam crigler
I want to know all of the information.
I think you're bringing up a good point about general underlying health issues.
It's like, yeah, but what is considered an underlying health issue?
tim pool
Listen, you know, this dude's an athlete.
adam crigler
Yeah, I know.
Exactly.
tim pool
I really, I really doubt he smokes.
adam crigler
Right.
I'm not, I'm not getting this vibe.
Like he, if he's lacrosses, you're running back and forth.
You got, you got to have healthy lungs to run back and forth.
So it's like, it can't just, it can't just be that, you know, it's, it's obviously had healthy lungs.
If he's a star, it said, right.
tim pool
An all-star lacrosse player?
adam crigler
Yeah, an all-star lacrosse player.
Those people run non-stop.
Lacrosse is a heavy running sport.
tim pool
All-American lacrosse player.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't know if that means... I know lacrosse is a legit taxing sport.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's a hard sport.
tim pool
I think you're bringing up a good point about general scientific research on diets and illnesses, for sure.
adam crigler
Yeah, I agree.
That's what I'm trying to say, yeah.
tim pool
But that's like a longer conversation about collecting the data and then down the road looking at stuff.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
This, to me, sounds like it's worse than the Spanish flu.
adam crigler
Well, I don't know much about the Spanish flu.
tim pool
The Spanish flu was a novel virus with a mortality rate of 2.5%.
adam crigler
Isn't that right where we're at?
We're higher now.
tim pool
Well, so in the U.S., we're below, I believe, one.
lydia smith
1.8, I think, was last month.
adam crigler
But globally, though, where are we at?
tim pool
Globally is 3.4.
So actually, look.
No, no, we're... What are we at?
We're, uh, what are we at? We have 59,986 total cases and 823 deaths.
I don't necessarily think it makes sense to calculate current infected to current dead
because you'd think the closed cases, do you recover or do you die?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
In that case, Italy is scary.
It's like 40%.
adam crigler
Yeah.
lydia smith
So if you look at closed cases, you've got a 16% mortality rate.
tim pool
For closed cases.
adam crigler
Yeah.
And the fact that you can get it again, right?
Even if you recover, you can get it again.
tim pool
So, it's now been reported another time.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
So, it was initially reported in Japan that there was reinfection.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
And then it was reported again, China may be seeing a potential reinfection.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
The other issue is mutation.
So, one story that's been going around is that it's not mutating fast enough so that one vaccine may just deal with it.
adam crigler
Right.
lydia smith
I hope so.
tim pool
Yeah, me too.
adam crigler
But then I read another article that's saying there's more than 20 different mutations that someone's found.
And two different ones in the same body.
tim pool
So this is what's crazy.
Look at this.
What, a week ago, we were at what?
Like a few thousand people infected?
This is what exponential growth looks like.
I think New York is in serious, serious trouble.
And you know, there's, man, the census is right now.
The 2020 census is now.
People are fleeing the city.
This is going to dramatically change the face of our economy, our politics.
I've seen really sad posts of like businesses going under, family businesses that were like around for 40 years saying like, this is it.
We're out of money.
We can't do it.
No business.
We can't pay anybody.
We're laying off.
We're shutting down.
Rent is due in six days.
Here we go.
Things are going to get crazy.
adam crigler
Yeah, what's going to happen, man?
tim pool
I'll tell you what's going to happen.
The authoritarian lockdown is coming.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
The government is going to step in and they're going to take over and they're going to say, you know, here's what's going to happen.
You will beg the government to step in.
That's what will happen.
lydia smith
That's already where we're at, where lots of people are at.
tim pool
That's actually the next segment.
lydia smith
Oh.
tim pool
Americans want a national lockdown.
From today, a few hours ago, Trump's call to end coronavirus restrictions by Easter is wildly out of step with what the public wants.
I don't know if I want to lock down everything under some emergency provisions, because when do they get lifted?
But I'll tell you what, man.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
Listen.
adam crigler
But that's why I brought up the fact that you can get reinfected by it.
tim pool
Well, well, well, it's been reported a couple times.
adam crigler
You gotta be careful.
If it's a possibility, if that is the case, How do we get rid of this?
tim pool
Never.
adam crigler
Before we get the vaccine?
lydia smith
I don't know.
adam crigler
We can't, if that's the case.
So having a lockdown is like the only option.
I'm not saying I want- This is why I'm to be locked in.
tim pool
This is why I'm saying that people will beg for it.
adam crigler
Yeah, I think so.
tim pool
When you see these hospitals overrun, and the crazy thing is like, you know what man, if you don't care about anyone else, you don't care about other people, okay, that's fine.
Worry about yourself getting sick.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
You don't wanna get this.
adam crigler
I don't want this.
tim pool
Yeah.
But here's what I think's gonna happen.
I don't, well first of all, I don't know what's going to happen come April 1st when rent is due.
Because apparently they're not even getting this emergency package passed through so that people have no money.
They were going to do four months guaranteed fast.
But if this gets to the point where business, where Manhattan is a ghost town, Manhattan, densest city, biggest city in the country is a ghost town.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
At what point do people become desperate and start searching for resources and food?
And at what point do the locals say, save me, Trump?
lydia smith
That's a nice way of putting it.
tim pool
Right.
lydia smith
Searching for resources.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
adam crigler
Quote, unquote.
Quote, unquote.
Searching.
lydia smith
I don't like that.
tim pool
What happens when, you know, the first person comes knocking on your door saying, please can you help me with family?
And you say, I can't.
And then in the middle of the night they come back and say, I'm not asking this time.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't want to be a doomsayer, I don't want to be overreacting, but April 1st is a coming, and we're being stalled on this emergency package.
So the next thing that happens is the emergency lockdown.
So here's what I want to do.
We're going to jump over to Super Chats, take some of the comment audience questions and stuff.
We'll try and go fairly quick, so if we don't get to you guys, I'm sorry.
But we've got a bunch of stories about people being charged with terrorism.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
For coughing.
adam crigler
Gosh.
lydia smith
Yeah.
Weird, right?
adam crigler
Well, also licking stuff and- Look, if you want to- But, man, I know.
tim pool
So that guy who licked the deodorant in Walmart?
adam crigler
Arrested for terrorism.
tim pool
Terroristic threats.
adam crigler
Oh, terroristic threats.
tim pool
Another guy coughed near an old woman and started joking he had COVID.
Terroristic charge.
He got charged with terroristic threats.
unidentified
Wow.
lydia smith
That seems much.
tim pool
In an emergency, don't be surprised when they suspend your rights.
And what are you gonna do about it?
adam crigler
What can you do?
tim pool
And you know what?
Public opinion is against you.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
You can say, I'm sorry, it was a joke.
No one's gonna care.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
They're gonna say, don't care.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
No sympathy for me.
adam crigler
It's not funny at all.
tim pool
Let's grab these Super Chats.
adam crigler
Well, on a lighter note, if you've noticed my shirt...
I'm wearing the wonderful beanie shirt that is available right now.
You can look down and there's a merch link right below the video.
Someone was asking where you can get it and that's where you can get it.
I'm wearing his beanie on my shirt.
tim pool
I don't know why I designed that shirt.
adam crigler
I really don't.
I think it's wonderful.
lydia smith
I love it.
tim pool
I want one too.
adam crigler
It is wonderful.
tim pool
It's because people were like, we want to buy the same beanie.
And I was like, I have no idea how to make beanies.
So I just took a picture and I vectorized it and just put it on a shirt.
adam crigler
I could totally see that this is your beanie too.
Isn't it great?
It's great.
Sorry, super chat.
tim pool
Let's grab these super chats.
Let's try and grab as many as we can.
Jim St.
Armor.
My wife is now a fan of the show.
Tim, she is a big Trekkie like you.
She wants to know who your favorite Star Trek character is and why.
adam crigler
Oh, that's a good question.
tim pool
I want to know this.
adam crigler
Favorite character?
tim pool
It's probably Picard.
adam crigler
Really?
Picard?
tim pool
But it's a cliche.
But come on.
He was very stoic.
He was a great leader.
He was stern, strong.
Sometimes he would lose his patience.
adam crigler
True.
tim pool
He was a good captain though.
adam crigler
And he also had a little bit of, he would slip some humor in there sometimes.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But I really love the interactions between him and Data.
adam crigler
Data, yeah.
tim pool
Particularly in when he, the, what is it called?
The making of a man or something?
adam crigler
Like Data's episode, basically.
tim pool
Where they're trying to determine whether or not he's entitled to his own life rights.
adam crigler
Ah, right.
tim pool
Man, that show is fantastic.
adam crigler
I think it was a good show.
tim pool
But also, as we're moving into this subject matter about what a terrorism charge is in the U.S., there was this really great sequence where Data asks Picard about terrorism, and he says, basically, if it's so frowned upon, or it's successful, it works.
And Picard is like, these are tough questions humanity has struggled with for, you know, millennia.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
It's true.
The people who are crazy, screeching, violent monsters get what they want.
adam crigler
It's true.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Anyway, very much a big fan.
adam crigler
Sadly true.
tim pool
TheRealChadillac, thanks for becoming a member.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Maddie Bone says, Miss Lydia, as a nurse, what are your thoughts and opinions on a DNR for these patients?
And as always, sup Tim and soy Jesus.
lydia smith
Okay, yeah, first and foremost, I'm not a nurse.
I'm a nurse.
I was a nurse aide slash technician.
DNRs are not something that's assigned by a doctor.
They're only chosen by the patients and their families, so this is very weird.
adam crigler
Yeah, this is not.
lydia smith
So my take on that is actually even more unsettled, I think, than Tim and Adam, because I've seen DNRs put into place and acted out and changed, and they are no joke.
I would hate to see that for like a 20-year-old kid.
tim pool
You've seen people who have chosen To receive no aid, and then you watch them die.
lydia smith
I used to watch them die on screen because I was in telemetry, where we're watching people's hearts beat, and then not beat, and yeah, like agonal beats and stuff.
But those people were really, really old.
The reason they were DNRs was because it was their time.
tim pool
So what if it's a 35-year-old dad, a couple kids, and the doctors come to you and say, we're not going to do anything about it?
lydia smith
Those ones are really hard to watch.
tim pool
No, I'm saying when the family's begging.
lydia smith
No, I've never seen that.
tim pool
I've never seen anything like that.
I mean, that's what they're saying, right?
They don't care what the family says.
They're not going to do it.
lydia smith
The only time I've seen young people DNRs is their own choice, as it should be.
And it makes it easier.
tim pool
Young people?
lydia smith
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
People who have, like, terminal kidney illness.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
lydia smith
Okay, that makes sense.
But, yeah.
No, doctors don't usually get to do that.
tim pool
You call it weird, though.
Is that the...
lydia smith
That is the technical term.
tim pool
Weird?
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
No, it's unusual.
I mean, to me it's shocking.
lydia smith
It's unheard of.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
Yeah, they don't do it that way.
But apparently they do now, so that's good.
unidentified
I'm not happy with someone deciding... Well, somebody mentioned it is triage.
lydia smith
It's like, it's like combat triage.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
lydia smith
Which is, there are no more easy decisions.
tim pool
Yep.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
And if we run out of, if we run out of beds... We're running out of supplies and we don't have enough staff.
tim pool
And that's because the economy is frozen.
lydia smith
Yeah, it's all a mess.
It's all wrapped up.
tim pool
So we need to get stuff done.
We can't do it.
adam crigler
Yeah.
lydia smith
Yeah, don't get me talking.
All right.
tim pool
All right, let's grab some more Super Chats.
But I will also say, if you are watching and you want to help out the show, click the Like button, because I can only assume that helps.
adam crigler
I'm going to like it right now.
unidentified
Boom.
lydia smith
I'm going to like it, too.
adam crigler
I just liked it.
lydia smith
I do like it.
tim pool
King Canuck says, hello, Beanie Brigade.
Darn it, I wasn't first.
Leafland is still locking down to know your topics today, so I have nothing much to say.
Have a great stream.
Appreciate it.
adam crigler
Thanks, man.
lydia smith
Thanks.
tim pool
Kyle Buchanan says, Some good news on the C-virus.
Folding at home has ten times the people.
Folding is Stanford's program helping cure diseases.
That's true.
For those that are familiar, if you want to help out, there's a program called Folding at Home that uses your home computer's power to help cure diseases.
lydia smith
That's cool.
tim pool
So I don't know too much about it, but a lot of people are bored, so they're pitching in, and this is pretty cool stuff.
Yeah, I saw that for a while.
Millennial says, Coining this one.
Hello, Melidia.
Tips for Dora.
There you go.
Justin says, At the end of this, let's make the top trending hashtag be hashtag
China lied.
People died.
It actually was on Twitter.
lydia smith
Yeah, I saw that for a while.
Yeah, super cool.
tim pool
Jack the Ripper says, Hey guys, I invested 2000 in a subverse.
What's the latest with that now that you're doing two channels and IRL?
Love the show, by the way.
So Subverse is... Totally separate, right?
Well, it's separate from us.
For those that aren't familiar, check out Subverse News.
It is straight news.
It is editorially independent from me on purpose.
I am a commentary and, you know, news person.
They do actual on-the-ground reporting.
So they're going through... There's some really, really cool stuff.
I can't talk about it too much, but they run their ship, and I act essentially as like an ombudsman.
So if I see them stepping out of line or whatever, but they don't because I know them, they're friends, then I'll come in and be like, yo guys, this is unethical or something.
So the general idea is, I do my thing.
Subverse does their thing, but if Subverse starts crossing the line with this BS these other outlets do, then I come in and I karate chop people.
So, yeah, that's the goal.
But there's some developments, too.
We'll see what happens.
I might end up doing documentary VO stuff.
I don't know.
They run their ship.
They do their thing.
DC Pagan says, When will you be selling real beanies?
It has to be from Tim to be special.
adam crigler
Dude, I've been looking.
People keep sending me different links to get beanies from, but they're thin workout beanies or big, long, acrylic beanies that aren't comfortable.
tim pool
Like, where do the skateboard companies get their beanies made?
adam crigler
We need to get that kind of a beanie.
This is made by... I want to find that beanie.
And it's so hard to find.
I can't find it.
tim pool
These are, the ones I wear are from DC Shoes.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And I have a bunch of them.
adam crigler
And not only that... They're for skateboarding.
I have found something similar actually, but they're like crazy patterns.
I can't, I can't wholesale like, you know, like a regular one that we can then put like Timcast on, you know, like have your little face on it, which would be funny, but...
Maybe we just gotta call up... Trust me, I'm looking.
I'm really trying to source beanies, and it's not easy.
tim pool
Just call up the skate company.
Anybody work for DC or something?
Or know somebody who does?
adam crigler
Yeah, we gotta figure that out.
tim pool
DC, Schuko, USA.
adam crigler
Yeah, right.
tim pool
Ask them, like, who do... Maybe they make them themselves.
adam crigler
Yeah, maybe.
tim pool
Because they're for skateboarding.
It's true.
They're thin, and stretchy, and soft.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And they're, like... You know what the crazy thing about skateboarders is, is the weirdest thing?
Go to the Lower East Side Skate Park in Manhattan, in the dead of summer.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
95 degrees and you'll see a dude wearing a sweater. Yeah, and a beanie. It's true. And I'm just like man
Yeah.
adam crigler
I don't know that far with shorts though. No, no, no, no.
tim pool
No, there was there's one dude He rips the park is amazing and he's wearing long pants a
button-up shirt With a sweater over it and a beanie in the heat of summer
and he is drenched Yeah, and I'm like, maybe it's like hot yoga, you know
Sweat it out, man.
Oh, that makes sense.
adam crigler
That does make sense.
unidentified
That's true.
tim pool
But, you know, skateboarders, we suffer for fashion.
I guess so.
Let's read some more Super Chats.
The Real Cadillac says, Wastewater operators are an older, retiring workforce.
If that field succumbs to coronavirus, collection systems could back into houses.
S hits the fan.
And quite literally.
Al Santiago says, Just watched Containment on Netflix.
It's almost like watching what's going on at the moment.
We should go watch that afterwards.
adam crigler
Let's do it.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
I watched Contagion.
adam crigler
I want to watch 12 Monkeys, because someone said that we're in the past of 12 Monkeys.
And I was like, ooh.
lydia smith
Don't like it.
tim pool
Listen, man.
adam crigler
You've got to re-watch that movie.
tim pool
Stories about doctors deciding to let people die, about people being charged with terrorism for making jokes and coughing near people.
It's like, wow, man.
adam crigler
That's where we are.
tim pool
We are headed for dark times.
Brandon says, Tim, have you read anything about the Wu Mao?
Essentially, they're the social media army for the Chinese Communist Party.
I haven't.
lydia smith
Oh, wow.
tim pool
I have not.
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
Nicholas Price says, keep up the great work on the issue of China.
You should check out Peter Zaihan.
China can only operate the way it does because of the US Navy guaranteeing secure trade.
We have leverage for now.
lydia smith
Interesting.
tim pool
Podcastage says, what are your thoughts on people deciding to not pay rent?
When the moratorium on evictions is lifted, won't that rent still be due?
lydia smith
I don't know.
tim pool
I don't know either.
This is one of the big... I don't know.
Listen, man, this is what's really weird to me.
There are a lot of people who are saying the Republicans and the Democrats in the Senate didn't go far enough on this bill.
And I'm like, dude, they compromised and came together.
I'm seeing people say like, so what?
You put a moratorium on evictions, then people will just stop paying rent.
And I'm like, right.
adam crigler
And then you get evicted once this ends.
tim pool
But no one knows what to do.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
It's unprecedented.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
We're in uncharted waters right now.
tim pool
Man, I can only imagine this was really bad.
Like, it's so much worse than they ever said.
Those videos out of China?
adam crigler
Those are scary videos.
We can't show them, but I was watching it with them earlier.
tim pool
Yeah, because they're not necessarily confirmed.
But we're watching videos of something, and it's not a movie.
And they've been circulating for a while, but we've seen them from other countries, too.
adam crigler
Yeah, there was a body floating in a river.
tim pool
And people were just walking by?
adam crigler
Just walking by, with their masks on.
Not looking at it, just walking by.
tim pool
And when China locked down the country, these whistleblowers vanished.
All of a sudden, it stopped.
I don't believe them for a second.
adam crigler
No way.
lydia smith
To treat that like normal?
tim pool
Yeah, what if this really does have this high mortality rate can reinfect people?
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
And we're in serious trouble.
adam crigler
That's what scares me a lot.
It's like it's not just a wave that's passing through the population.
tim pool
It's rippling.
adam crigler
It's rippling back and forth.
It's like hitting the wall and then bouncing back and then forth and back.
And it's like, well, if that's the case, everyone's going to get it.
And then if it's like, if the mortality rate's 20, 50, you know, 3% over and over and over again, it adds up.
tim pool
I figured it out.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
I am no longer worried at all.
lydia smith
Oh yeah?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I'll just peace out.
I'm gone.
Disappear.
You'll never hear from me again.
lydia smith
Alright.
tim pool
Go up to the woods.
Get a dog.
Just chill out.
Be completely self-reliant.
adam crigler
Atomcast IRL.
Coming soon.
tim pool
And then I will never... There you go.
See?
And then I will never contract.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So one of the things that a lot of people are scared about is that if that's true, then the only solution is vaccination.
True.
adam crigler
We have to get the vaccination.
tim pool
Which means everyone has to get it.
adam crigler
Everybody.
tim pool
And so what happens to all the anti-vax people?
adam crigler
I think they're going to change their tune.
tim pool
I don't.
lydia smith
I don't.
adam crigler
You don't think so?
tim pool
When the government says, we've rushed through a vaccine in a 10% of the time as normal, let us inject you with a chemical.
Dude, the anti-vax people are going to be 10 times as fervent.
adam crigler
When there's a pandemic ripping humanity apart?
Because that's literally what's happening.
tim pool
Yes.
Absolutely, dude.
Have you met people?
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
It's not even that.
Have you seen what they've said about government mandated medication?
adam crigler
Oh, man.
tim pool
I'll tell you what, man.
adam crigler
I have.
I have seen it.
tim pool
We don't need to... I've had a doctor give me several shots.
I've been to a bunch of foreign countries.
I've been inoculated.
I am very much a get your vaccines.
Yeah, they're not perfect.
There's potential injuries and stuff.
The autism stuff is widely overhyped.
But the issue is, I'm very much so, like, listen...
I got no problem getting a vaccine.
I've got several.
If they want to come out and do it, I get it.
But, I gotta admit, even I'm skittish when they say we are rushing in production.
Normally it takes four years.
We'll get it done fast, trust us.
adam crigler
I'll just get in the back of the line.
tim pool
Right, right.
I'll be in line, but I'll be in the way back.
adam crigler
And I'll be looking to see what's happening up there.
unidentified
And not getting coughed on.
tim pool
I think the real argument when it comes to vaccine stuff is government mandated medication.
adam crigler
Mandated is the key word there.
tim pool
But here's the thing, man.
When they say stuff like, if you don't get a vaccine, you can't come to school, I'm kind of like, all right.
I don't want to go anyway.
That's fine by me.
It's your building.
adam crigler
With our next subject, it kind of goes in line with it.
People want a lockdown.
I think the majority want a vaccine.
They'll be like, okay.
tim pool
And they would line up and say, thank you, sir.
adam crigler
Please, thank you.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
All right.
Now I don't have to worry anymore.
tim pool
That's the mentality that creates the Borg.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
So I'm not, you know, I'm not a big conspiracy person.
Like, I don't think there's a big network of evil people who are, like, twirling their mustache.
adam crigler
Like, this virus is working as planned!
tim pool
Yeah, of course not.
adam crigler
Oh, no, yeah, I agree.
tim pool
You know, so I probably would be like, eh, you know, I'm not gonna rush full speed to get a vaccine, but I'll be there, I'll go check it out.
But, uh, it does concern me when, like, I'm supposed to trust these people.
I don't know them.
Humans are fallible.
You know, who knows what they're gonna do?
They could make mistakes.
I understand, you know, desperate times, desperate measures, but... Let's, uh, let's read some more of these, uh, superchats.
adam crigler
Yeah, keep getting sidetracked.
tim pool
Mike Depew says, the Lydia of Whiterun name on Twitter.
Oh.
It's porn.
Cliff says, in Australia, kids have it.
Yep.
Justin says, is it possible to oxygenate someone's blood without passing it through their lungs?
Is it?
lydia smith
Is it?
adam crigler
I feel like you might know that more.
lydia smith
I'm not sure.
That's never something that we did on my unit.
We weren't an intensive care unit.
adam crigler
Usually the lungs do the trick.
tim pool
I think there is a way to do it, but I don't think it's something that every hospital is going to have a ton of to deal with.
lydia smith
I would think that would be highly specialized.
adam crigler
Yeah, because it's not like you can just put oxygen bubbles into the blood.
That kills you, right?
unidentified
Right.
adam crigler
If oxygen gets to your heart.
lydia smith
Yeah, if you get a bubble of blood, yeah, your heart can't pump.
adam crigler
It would need to be oxygenated blood specifically.
lydia smith
Right, it would be very bad.
tim pool
So dialysis for the lungs?
No, I've never heard of that.
I don't know, maybe.
adam crigler
someone in the chat. Like a dialysis machine that's specialized to add oxygen or something?
lydia smith
So dialysis for the lungs? Right. Yeah, no, I've never heard of that. I don't know, maybe.
tim pool
Interesting. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist. There was some story I saw from a while ago
adam crigler
about something they could inject you with. The comments are going crazy that they say yes.
I don't know what it is, but it seems like there's a lot of people that know about it.
lydia smith
I will have to look it up while we go through the rest of these.
tim pool
Do it to it!
I'll read some more.
adam crigler
Yeah, let's go for it.
tim pool
Pineapple in Space says, It's super easy to get a new car right now.
Can't wait till it's easier to get a house in a few months.
Pretty dark reasons though.
By the way, cost of alcohols are going up.
Soon the incentives for making antiseptics might flatten.
Yikes.
Yeah, the booze stores are closing in Pennsylvania.
adam crigler
Oh, really?
tim pool
Yeah.
I think, right?
That's what happened?
It was PA?
lydia smith
Yeah, they shut down PA.
I think all the government-run ones, the state-run.
tim pool
That's nuts, man.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, yeah, that's weird though, state-run booze.
lydia smith
Yeah, I was like, wait, what?
Is that a thing?
adam crigler
I guess it is.
It is in Sweden.
lydia smith
Huh, interesting.
tim pool
Dark Rangi says, Hey, love your work.
You guys live together, right?
I would say technically yes.
lydia smith
We are roommates.
tim pool
Technically yes.
It is a large house, a lot of space, and we have a studio in the basement.
But there is, you know, I was actually working on buying a building for the studio, and this was the last resort, so we kind of ended up having to be like, okay, we're moving back into this one house.
adam crigler
And thank goodness, because I wouldn't want to be traveling around.
tim pool
We wouldn't be able to do the show if that wasn't the case.
adam crigler
That's crazy.
tim pool
So I was looking at a building for multi-purpose stuff.
We had extra space where we could have a skate shop and a hangout spot and then do a ton of production and shows.
And it was actually cheaper than my house.
And it fell through.
And if I ended up getting that, we wouldn't be doing the show.
adam crigler
Yeah, right.
tim pool
So there's actually a bunch of other people who used to do shows who have cancelled all their live streams.
adam crigler
Because of that reason.
tim pool
Because their professionals can't come in, the camera people can't come in, so our temporary plan B studio build ended up working out.
adam crigler
I know, and our camera crew is just some tripods.
tim pool
Yeah, literally.
It's just three cameras and tripods.
adam crigler
We don't pay them at all.
They do such a good job.
tim pool
Yes.
adam crigler
Nice job, camera crew.
tim pool
And the best part is, they're not actually autonomous in any way, so they can't rise up against us in outrage.
unidentified
They can't form unions.
Yet.
Yet.
I don't know.
tim pool
I did not.
adam crigler
I'm not sure.
No, I don't know.
tim pool
Jen McMahon says, did you watch the Joe Scott video on the coronavirus?
I did not.
adam crigler
I'm not sure.
No, I don't know.
tim pool
Coresonic says, the saying goes, everyone got a D sometimes and the media deserves all
the cake for this and China too.
Blob says, do you have an address to send a check?
I'm not giving Google any more money.
I do on my website over at TimCast.com.
Cord says, in my region we are around 70,000 people.
We have 13 ICU beds in my town, around 20,000.
And we don't even have a hospital.
Two hours drive to the closest hospital.
adam crigler
Oh man.
tim pool
That's where it gets freaky.
lydia smith
Stay away from people.
tim pool
Emo Da Drum says, most of my friends praise socialism as soon as Trump offers aid.
Seems like peeps aren't cool with $1,200 checks.
Yang only offered $1,000.
So confusing.
Yes.
It's so confusing that everyone was cheering for Trump's $1,000 check, and now that they've negotiated $1,200, they're all saying it's not good enough.
adam crigler
Yeah.
What the heck?
tim pool
What's... Narratives, man.
lydia smith
Yeah, dude.
tim pool
Thomas Hyden says, the virus has shown people's true colors.
lydia smith
It has.
unidentified
Absolutely.
lydia smith
Stripped everything away.
tim pool
Grace Fang says, you hear about the Chinese cell networks missing millions of people?
Freaky.
Yep.
You hear about this?
adam crigler
No, I haven't actually.
tim pool
So here, let me tell y'all a story.
Some tweets started emerging showing cell phone accounts in China.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
In the past month dropping by like eight million or something, right?
Oh, I didn't hear about this.
adam crigler
Well, hold on.
tim pool
Easily explained.
You're locked in your apartment for a month, you're not working, you don't pay your bill, they terminate your service, right?
adam crigler
But the landlines.
tim pool
The landlines.
adam crigler
Almost a million.
tim pool
Terminated.
adam crigler
Yeah.
lydia smith
Huh, interesting.
I'm sure they're completely telling the truth.
tim pool
That doesn't make sense.
adam crigler
No, it doesn't.
tim pool
Landlines?
Well, it could be businesses.
unidentified
True.
adam crigler
true. Businesses shutting down. Okay. I mean, listen, listen, listen, I don't know how it
tim pool
works in China, but here, if you miss one cell phone payment, they don't terminate your
adam crigler
cell phone plan. No, they send you a letter saying you missed your payment.
tim pool
And then you miss your second payment and they say, you missed your second payment.
And now we're going to shut off your service in two weeks.
lydia smith
You got like two extra months.
unidentified
Right.
lydia smith
So unless this started a long time before they said it did, or they're just terminating people for different reasons.
tim pool
Yeah.
I mean, it could be prepaid over there, you know, and so people didn't preload.
And then a month later they didn't use their phones.
adam crigler
Maybe.
tim pool
But even if you're at home, you need a phone.
I don't know, man.
It is freaky.
adam crigler
Yes, it is.
tim pool
I do not trust that country.
lydia smith
Nope.
tim pool
Sparky says, hospitals have teams who talk patients and loved ones into not accepting treatment for anyone old enough to be on Medicare during the last few years.
Is that true?
adam crigler
I've never heard that before.
lydia smith
I did not know about that.
tim pool
Jonathan, thanks for the super chat.
Martin says, think you might be wrong about Pelosi blocking today.
Senate hadn't passed the bill.
Nothing to vote on.
Once the bill is voted on in the Senate, we'll see.
I loathe Pelosi, but she didn't block today.
No, they didn't discuss or vote on anything.
adam crigler
Yeah, they didn't block it.
They just left.
tim pool
So that's why I was saying it's like, it's obstructing.
I don't know, right, it is confusing.
But that's why I didn't believe it.
BeastOnTheRun says, one of the more popular tourist attractions in Ho Chi Minh City is the Cu Chi Tunnel, used by the VC as a supply line.
In short, the U.S.
Yes, I get it.
Chuck Morris says, sounds like time for a camping trip.
Yep.
Thank you.
I'm a generator technician. Techs like myself are out there keeping generators working in case power start to go down.
Essential workers that no one knows about.
Softlight says, don't wear the flimsy paper masks. They will not protect you. Make your own from t-shirts layered
if you have to.
adam crigler
Better than nothing.
Would that work, though?
tim pool
I don't know.
lydia smith
It would be a little bit better than paper, not as good as a sealed gift.
adam crigler
Yeah, and I see all these, like, random things.
People are sharing, like, a paper bag over their head.
lydia smith
That's not gonna help.
adam crigler
A plastic bag over their head.
tim pool
I've seen plastic bags.
adam crigler
People are wearing garbage bags.
lydia smith
Plastic bags.
adam crigler
Yeah, over their head.
Like, how do you breathe?
lydia smith
That is a great plan.
adam crigler
Or, like, a plastic bottle cut in half and just rubber band to their face.
It looks ridiculous.
tim pool
Alright, I am going to start moving faster because we are getting inundated with superchats, so I apologize if we miss you.
adam crigler
Well hey, thanks everyone though.
tim pool
Data Exploit says, people here in Canada don't seem to get it.
I'm working in retail and I just heard today that the district manager and regional manager want to visit stores to thank the staff for staying at work.
That's not an essential service.
John McLeod says, I have a thought.
Vaping is a big thing with young people.
I wonder if the effects of vaping makes COVID-19 worse.
What are your thoughts, guys?
Did you get to read the article I emailed you?
adam crigler
That's a good question.
Not sure, but that makes so much sense.
It's a lung issue.
tim pool
But a bunch of us, that Chinese minister guy was trying to argue that The vaping epidemic where all these young people were getting these lung, you know, it was similar.
It was like fluids filling up in their lungs, they couldn't breathe.
He said, ah, that proves it.
And everyone's like, oh, please, you know, stop trying to blame us.
adam crigler
Well, they were also getting like really cheap crap.
tim pool
It was vitamin E acetate, I think.
adam crigler
It helped me stop smoking cigarettes.
And then I eventually quit vaping also.
I remember I would always get like really nice products and really nice stuff and sometimes I'd be in a spot that I couldn't... there was no vape shop and I'd go to the deli and there was like some really cheap looking stuff and I tried it and it was disgusting and my lungs hurt and I was like threw that away and it's like... The stuff the kids were getting was like... It's bootleg, right?
tim pool
Yeah, bootleg vitamin E stuff.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
It's like that's not what is approved by the FDA, you know?
It's like you gotta get the good stuff if you're gonna do it, you know?
Not just...
Get whatever you can get and then end up with fluid in your lungs.
So I think it's a high potential that they would definitely make it worse or make you more susceptible to the COVID-19.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
There we go.
We've got a big jump in Super Chats.
Let me try and figure out where we were because there is many, many members.
Thanks for everybody for joining.
Let's see.
Where are we at?
Oh, there are too many.
lydia smith
There it is.
unidentified
Where is it?
lydia smith
No, I was wrong.
tim pool
There we go.
I think.
adam crigler
Nope.
Here we go.
tim pool
Student of History says the bill is supposed to be an emergency snapshot to buy more time when the Democrats decided to just ignore the issue and walk in and walk out, making this worse by the day, making death more likely.
lydia smith
That's their wish list.
tim pool
Yeah, no, they want carbon emissions, they want diversity quotas, student debt forgiveness.
adam crigler
Tax credits for getting solar panels on your house.
tim pool
And now people are worried that they're going to get the bill from the Senate and they're going to be like, okay, change this.
And it's going to go back and be another week.
lydia smith
Not the time.
tim pool
Amazing.
lydia smith
Not the time.
tim pool
Cherilee says, my husband works for AEP, a power plant.
They've already locked down some of the plants so there will be no workers on site getting the virus.
They plan further ahead than our government.
Same goes for nuclear plants.
Interesting.
Joseph Metzler, what you are seeing with the COVID-19 fallout is the collective failures coming home.
Everyone is using it as a screen to cover up long-term failures.
Would love to explain it from a hazmat worker.
Interesting.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Mark says, COVID-19 invades your cells, forces them to replicate.
The virus then orders the cell to self-destruct, releasing even more.
Then it infects your immune system, making do scorching earth tactics.
unidentified
Wow.
adam crigler
Sounds like a virus.
tim pool
Scary, yeah.
Student of History says, exponential growth is 100k in about 70 days, 200k in about 40 days, 300k in 6 days after that.
Scott McLean says, grey glue seems to be what's killing people.
It would make more sense to create a compound that breaks it down, that isn't toxic and can be drained easier.
Better than a vaccine, other options needed.
Swampy says, unfortunately there's a lot of info out there, with factual backing that points towards governments going for power grabs and NWO plandemic, forcing people to beg the government for help and give up liberty for it.
Stay safe all.
But yeah, but Trump being in on it, he resisted this, he downplayed it a bit, and then he stepped forward.
Yes, people in government are exploiting this.
I don't think it was on purpose.
I don't think this was planned.
I think they were like, hey, wait a minute.
We got a crisis.
Never let a good crisis go to waste.
What can we snatch?
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Justin, thanks for becoming a member.
The Unknown Millennial says, right now you're talking about searching for resources.
Tom McDonald did an awesome song called Coronavirus that talks about this.
Shout out, Tom, you rock.
Yes, searching.
Lost Cold Soul, Superguy, and Devil Eyes, thanks for becoming members.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Bill Vong says, legally speaking, DNR, DNI is a medical order, and it's technically not up to families, but good luck finding anyone who would do that.
lydia smith
In Colorado, they kind of wing it.
They let the families change at the last minute.
I know not every state might be like, I don't think it's right.
tim pool
Barbicane, thanks for becoming a member.
Christian says, I don't know her name, but your producer colleague has a very pleasing
voice.
Her name is Lydia.
Oh, thanks.
Almost as good as yours, Tim.
adam crigler
Ooh.
tim pool
Almost.
Almost.
Rude.
Benjamin, thanks for joining.
Overdress says, Picard is well-written, was put in extremely interesting situations, and
played by a great actor.
He feels realer to me than most of the NPCs I encountered long ago.
When we still roamed the streets, I missed them.
Omniplex says, Senators expect to begin voting within an hour or so on the massive $2 trillion stimulus bill just minutes ago.
Senate offices got the final text at 883 pages long.
Earlier drafts had circulated today.
I believe it when I see it.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
Zachary, thanks for joining.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
JMac says, do you ever watch Daily Wire's Sunday special with Shapiro?
He had Ezra Klein on two weeks ago, and it was weird to see Ezra's mental gymnastics.
Props to him going on though.
Yeah, Ezra is famous.
So, excuse me, he's the founder of Vox.com.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
tim pool
And people have, there's like a job you can do where whenever something in the news happens, Ezra's opinion inverts.
It's like, someone did a huge thread on how he, oh, Ruth Bader Ginsburg was the example.
When something happened, he said, we absolutely must... I can't remember, it was Trump appointing somebody, and he's like, we absolutely must have limits on how long someone can serve in the Supreme Court.
This is ridiculous.
And then he's like, here's my simple explanation as to why.
And then he writes this big draft explaining what was really supposed to happen.
It's an explainer.
And then Ruth Bader Ginsburg got sick.
Lifetime appointments are necessary and very important.
And then he writes this big, long thing.
It's like, we get it, dude.
You don't really have any principles.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Belador says, check out Carhartt.
Their beanies look really similar, plus are pretty durable and relatively inexpensive.
adam crigler
But where do they get them from?
tim pool
Who's the manufacturer?
adam crigler
Right, that's what we need.
tim pool
The factory.
adam crigler
Yeah, I don't want to get their beanies at their market price.
I want to get our beanies for us with our stuff on them.
tim pool
Bill Vong says, yes, it's called ECMO, extracorporeal membrane oxygenation, and it's a major measure of last resort, needs to be surgically placed, and not a long-term solution.
There you go, that's how you get the oxygen in the blood.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Zachary, considering the mass DNR is the realm of possibilities, possibility, why don't we try to train the population in basic triage and life-saving medical techniques?
Basically, can we medically deputize people?
adam crigler
You know, that would be part of education and the whole education system of America is a whole different conversation.
But I do, I like that.
Like, why wouldn't we be taught like general stuff like that?
As human beings, we should know how to fix some of this, you know?
Yeah.
tim pool
Absolutely.
And where were we just now?
There we go.
It does feel like that.
Thank you.
Well, let's jump over now to the next story.
Tim Be careful, the Democrats may have just pushed us into impossible civil war within
the government.
The Democrats in their death spiral are taking us down with their sinking ship.
This will backfire.
I completely agree.
adam crigler
It does feel like that.
tim pool
Cassius and Yoke, thanks for coming members.
Thank you.
Lawrence Customs, thanks for the super chat.
But let's jump over now to the next story.
Yeah.
From Vox, Americans want a national lockdown.
Oh, wait, wait, wait.
Padme.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Is Queen Padme?
No, no, Senator Padme.
adam crigler
Padme?
tim pool
Padme.
adam crigler
What about her?
tim pool
Star Wars.
adam crigler
Yeah, what about her, though?
tim pool
This is how democracy dies, with thunderous applause.
lydia smith
Oh, so this is how democracy dies, yep.
adam crigler
Is that the quote?
lydia smith
Thunderous applause.
tim pool
You never let a crisis go to waste.
Here's the story.
On Tuesday, President Trump signaled that he wants the extraordinary efforts the nation has taken to arrest the spread of the coronavirus to halt by Easter, April 12th.
If that happens, the likely result will be more infections, an overloaded health care system, and more deaths.
New polling also suggests that Trump's desire to end this period of quarantines and sheltering In place is out of step with the public's wishes.
In a poll by Morning Consult taken March 20th to the 22nd, a plurality of Americans said they strongly support a national quarantine, and nearly three-quarters of Americans express at least some support for the idea.
So keep in mind, plurality doesn't mean majority.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
It means of the various brackets, it's the biggest.
Americans widely support national quarantine to contain COVID-19.
They were asked, would you support or oppose a national quarantine in which only essential travel, such as trips to the grocery store and pharmacy, are permitted to control the spread of the coronavirus?
And we can see that among registered voters, 40% strongly support, 34% somewhat support.
I mean, I'll be honest, that is a very, very strong plurality.
That is, essentially you could argue, the majority would support, to a certain degree, a national lockdown.
adam crigler
I mean, and the next one is somewhat support, and it's 34%.
So that's 74% would strongly support it, or they support it, basically.
That's a lot.
tim pool
It's huge.
You realize you give the government this power, they never give it back.
lydia smith
Oh yeah, you've given it up forever.
tim pool
Yep.
Yeah, we've been under a national emergency like what, like multiple emergencies.
They don't care.
It'll never stop.
Many Americans are already engaging in some form of social distancing, meaning they are either voluntarily keeping their distance from other people or are subject to a government order requiring them to do so.
A quarantine would be an especially strict form of such distancing.
Ordinarily, someone subject to a quarantine will remain in their home or in designated areas, with no exceptions.
Although, as the morning consult polling question acknowledges, some exceptions to a nationwide quarantine order would need to be made to allow people to obtain food and medicine.
It's also worth noting that Trump almost certainly does not have the formal authority to declare a national lockdown under existing federal law, and it is doubtful that Congress has the constitutional power to order people to remain in their homes.
Though Congress most likely could order businesses to shutter temporarily.
If a nationwide lockdown were to happen, it would likely be because 50 individual state governments all independently reached the conclusion that such a lockdown was necessary.
Now look, in New Jersey, they already arrested a couple guys for having a party.
So, there's no law on the books allowing them to do this.
adam crigler
What did they get arrested for?
tim pool
Public nuisance or something like that.
They had a couple dozen, I don't know the full story, they had a couple dozen people over, but man, I'll tell you what, We are at a point in our country where they can arrest you for anything.
There are so many laws in the books, they can just be like, oh, you, uh... I saw you just dropped a piece of paper.
Littering.
Lock him up, boys.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Jaywalking.
Oh, you're wearing blue jeans on Sunday at 7pm.
lydia smith
Take them away.
tim pool
They can argue that if you yell in public, disorderly conduct.
adam crigler
Oh my goodness.
tim pool
For real.
They can just say it.
They can just say it.
So they decree in New Jersey, you can't go out after 8pm, no gatherings.
Decree.
Like, that's not how the country works, right?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So a couple guys had a party.
The cops showed up and said, we'll call it a public nuisance.
People were complaining.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
They got arrested.
How does it make sense the government can just apply a different law to something else and just make it up?
That's where we're headed, man.
adam crigler
I mean, it feels like I've heard stories of cops doing that.
Well, of course.
tim pool
It's always been there.
adam crigler
For a long time.
tim pool
Right.
adam crigler
So now it's just getting bigger on a bigger scale.
tim pool
No, now people are clapping and cheering for it.
adam crigler
Yeah, you're right.
Yeah, now people want it.
tim pool
Vox says the federal public health laws governing quarantines, for example, generally only allow the federal government to act when someone tries to enter the country from abroad or when they attempt to cross state borders.
While there are some parts of the country where formal shelter-in-place orders have shut down non-essential businesses and even turned going over to a friend's house into a misdemeanor, What does that have to do with anything?
What does that have to do with Trump?
I don't know.
If Congress wanted a national lockdown, they voted for it, right?
such an order from the state or local government, but Congress does not work for the president.
What does that have to do with anything?
What does that have to do with Trump?
If Congress wanted a national lockdown, they voted for it, right?
Fine.
If Trump wanted the federal legislation forcing businesses to reopen, he would need to get
the House of Representatives with its Democratic majority to sign off on such legislation.
And even if he did manage to get such a law through Congress, it is not entirely clear that the current Supreme Court would uphold it.
There are already signs of a partisan divide on the question of whether extraordinary measures are necessary to prevent the spread of coronavirus.
A gap that is apparent in the morning consult poll.
Similarly, a recent Gallup poll found 78% of Democrats are avoiding small gatherings while only 56% of Republicans are doing so.
I gotta stop right there.
Republicans tend to live in rural areas.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
So they're very, very spread out.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
And so if you live in New York City, of course you're like, I'm not going out.
If your neighbor's on a farm and you're like, we're 50 miles from the nearest city, I don't think you got much to worry about.
adam crigler
Right.
And we grow all our own food.
And the only person I've shared my food with is my neighbor, John, who grows all his own food.
tim pool
I mean, not all Republicans live out on a farm growing their own food.
True, true, true.
But I think it's fair to say that, like, they polled Democrats and Republicans and said, Republicans aren't concerned about their family catching coronavirus, showing that they're downplaying the severity.
lydia smith
No, it's because they live far away from everybody.
tim pool
They don't live in big cities.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Dude, if you were like, if you asked me, your buddy lives on a farm, you know, 60 miles outside of the city, are you concerned about him catching coronavirus?
I'd be like, not at all.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
You're downplaying it.
Everyone can get, no, I just don't live, he doesn't live in a city.
What am I worried about?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, that brings me to where we're at so far.
We have a bunch of people who have been arrested.
Man faces terror charges after coughing on grocery store worker.
What else do we have?
We have Missouri Walmart coronavirus liquor charged with terroristic threats.
adam crigler
Yeah, this dude.
tim pool
And then we have, okay, so this is the same guy.
Same guy, okay, yeah, yeah.
adam crigler
Look at his face.
He's almost like, I can't believe I got arrested for this.
tim pool
Yeah, he's almost laughing.
adam crigler
It looks like he's holding back a smile.
tim pool
There is another guy, because I had the story earlier, so I think I maybe pulled up the wrong article, but it's terrorism.
adam crigler
Allegedly coughing in the direction of a local supermarket employee and claiming he suffered from the coronavirus.
So, allegedly coughing.
tim pool
He's just joking.
adam crigler
What is allegedly coughing?
tim pool
Allegedly coughing is because he's innocent until proven guilty.
adam crigler
Okay, there you go.
tim pool
So, there was a couple stories that are very similar.
And we also had these stories the other day where they were coughing on cops, remember?
adam crigler
Yeah, that's right.
tim pool
And that was just like, they gave him some slap on the wrist charge.
We're gonna arrest you or whatever.
adam crigler
Yeah, if it happened this week, or imagine next week, when it's even worse, I wouldn't want to be caught coughing on a cop.
lydia smith
Right?
tim pool
Oh, dude, don't cough on cops.
Don't cough on people.
That's not even a question.
I know, yeah, I know, but... I don't care if it's today, tomorrow, yesterday, ten years ago, what are you doing coughing on people?
Get out of here!
adam crigler
No, it's true.
tim pool
The issue is the terrorism charge.
Yeah, that's weird.
Three to five years in prison.
adam crigler
That's crazy.
Wow.
tim pool
This dude, he's probably going to regret it, man.
But I, come on.
Am I being unreasonable to say that's crazy they're going to try and give that guy three to five years coughing on somebody?
adam crigler
Yeah, that's crazy.
tim pool
He's a dick.
adam crigler
Especially if he was, I mean, if it was a joke and like he didn't actually cough on him.
It said towards them.
tim pool
Near them.
adam crigler
Near them.
Not on them.
tim pool
So apparently the story was like he was making fun of somebody.
adam crigler
Then licking actual products in a store.
I don't know.
tim pool
Oh yeah, that dude.
adam crigler
Like that guy.
It's like, and that's only a terrorist threat.
Right?
tim pool
I feel bad for this dude.
unidentified
I do.
tim pool
I do feel bad for him.
adam crigler
Because he thought he was going to be internet famous?
tim pool
No, he's a moron.
He's just some stupid guy who thought it was funny that he was going to lick something.
adam crigler
Same thing.
tim pool
Three to five years in prison.
adam crigler
Is that what he's getting?
tim pool
It's terrorism.
Yes.
Terror charge.
lydia smith
That's a little harsh.
tim pool
Exactly.
lydia smith
I think.
tim pool
So, but here's the thing, look.
adam crigler
I think it's a little harsh, yeah.
tim pool
The prosecutors might negotiate it down, and they'll end up with some kind of community service.
I heard some people saying that this guy actually had previous charges against him or something, so he's probably in trouble.
adam crigler
Yeah, okay.
tim pool
But, I guess the bigger question is, how far are you willing to go to end this crisis?
I think it's one of the reasons people think, you know, they want to believe in a conspiracy.
Because when you see how much power the government is grabbing, the charges they're putting against people who defy this, it's like it benefits them so greatly you just don't want to believe it's legit, like they're taking advantage of it.
No, it's simple, man.
People want power.
Power corrupts.
And now they have an opportunity to take it because no one's going to tell them no.
adam crigler
Yeah.
So we're going to get our lockdown.
No, no, no.
You keep saying people are asking for them to take the power.
tim pool
Oh, they're begging for it.
adam crigler
Please, please take the power away and make us feel comfortable and safe.
tim pool
Let's read the conclusion here from the Vox article.
They say, While Trump does not have the formal power to force Americans out of their homes, he still has tremendous rhetorical power over his fellow Republicans.
If he told Americans to start living their lives as normal, it is likely that at least some Republicans would comply.
Democrats, meanwhile, would be much more likely to ignore the President.
This divide would also be reflected among state and local officials.
Democratic mayors and governors would likely leave in place orders closing businesses and requiring residents to stay at home, while Republican officials would be more likely to march in locked up with the president.
In the short term, that would produce a health crisis that disproportionately impacts people who live in Republican-governed states.
In the longer term, however, coronavirus cares little about partisan affiliation or state borders.
If the disease grows out of control in Alabama, it won't be long before it spreads to more Democratic states as well.
I'll tell you what, man.
Most Republicans live in rural areas.
So, gotta be honest, if Trump said, do your thing, and a bunch of rural areas started doing their thing, and the Democrats in the cities just disappeared and locked down, I mean, the spread of infection would be faster in a big city.
New York's population density is like 28,000 people per square mile.
adam crigler
That's crazy.
tim pool
28,000 people, that's absolutely insane.
The density for the United States as a whole is like 90 people per square mile.
adam crigler
Oh wow.
lydia smith
There's so much space.
Wow.
tim pool
So nice.
Yeah, 90 people per square mile.
adam crigler
That's a huge difference.
tim pool
Very, very huge.
So I don't know man, what do you think?
You think that the police should go around arresting people for being outside and breaking quarantine, having parties?
adam crigler
You know what, it's like I said, we were talking about the kids doing the Skull Breaker Challenge.
You know, it's like, No, I don't want their lives ruined for doing something stupid.
But I don't want other people to think that they're going to get famous also by doing something similar.
Because that's kind of what is happening.
People are making jokes and posting more things about this.
It's going to catch on and go viral.
It's not funny.
It's not a good joke.
No, nobody feels bad for you for making these jokes and getting in trouble for it.
So, you know, it's like, you know, like you kind of said, it's like making an example isn't necessarily the right way.
I don't like it.
I know.
I know.
And I agree with you.
And so it's kind of like a it's a it's a tough line, I feel, because I don't like people doing this and I don't understand their mental state of why they they're doing this.
But I want others to know Don't do this stupid stuff.
Don't be licking stuff.
Don't be coughing on people.
Social distancing is real.
Do it.
Keep your distance from people.
Don't go and cough on stuff.
People are going to get pissed at you.
This is America.
There's a gun behind every blade of grass.
If you cough on someone in this kind of an environment, I wouldn't be surprised if you got shot.
I don't get it.
I don't trust that.
I wouldn't want to piss someone off.
I don't know what kind of day they're having.
If you cough on the wrong person, they're going to wait until you go outside and shoot you.
You just coughed on me in this pandemic that's spreading like this?
tim pool
You can't do anything about it.
adam crigler
It's just the wrong person, the wrong time.
Yeah, exactly.
These people are lucky that the cops were called and they're actually being pulled instead of some person who's pissed, who's carrying a concealed weapon, who said, you just assaulted me in a pandemic.
I mean, I'm just doing like an extreme situation.
tim pool
For real.
Come to the south side of Chicago.
adam crigler
You know what I mean?
tim pool
Cough on somebody.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
Or come to Chicago in general, man.
adam crigler
Yeah, go to Chicago and they'll Yeah, you messed with the wrong person at the wrong time.
And even, like, road rage is crazy.
We talked about that, you know?
tim pool
It's another thing, but... I gotta actually clarify what I just said.
Okay.
Issue a correction.
I said that they would knock out some teeth.
I'm sorry.
It's Chicago.
They call it Chirac.
They'll pop a cap.
You will not last very long if you go around coughing on people.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Exactly.
They're not going to play any games.
adam crigler
They're not calling the police.
tim pool
Nah.
adam crigler
They're going to handle it themselves.
Nope.
And there's a lot of people that would do that.
tim pool
No, no, no.
To be fair, more likely on the South Side.
There are some parts of the North Side.
unidentified
True.
adam crigler
Well, yeah, because the city pushed all the non-rich out to the South and remade the North Side of Chicago to this pretty wonderland.
tim pool
But you've got a bunch of different, you know, it's really interesting how the South Side has this.
It's like, there's different areas of different, there's like, uh, we have like, ethnic regions, almost.
Like, uh, you have Little Italy, you've got Ukrainian Village, Chinatown, the Midway area is all Polish, then you have Bridgeport, which is mostly like, Southside Irish, and any one of these people is gonna mess you up bad.
That's Chicago, dude.
I wouldn't mess around.
People have guns.
Lots of them.
Yeah.
adam crigler
Yeah, people think they're so safe.
lydia smith
Dude, we are so spoiled.
adam crigler
On so many levels, people think they're so safe.
tim pool
Yeah, so they go riding bikes in Tajikistan, smiling about how the world's a happy place, and then they get beheaded.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And we just got demonetized.
lydia smith
Well, we think this can't happen here.
That's how sheltered we are.
This will never happen here.
It's not a big deal.
tim pool
So I'll repeat it, because I think the prosecutors are going to be like, we can't make this stick.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Maybe they can, though.
adam crigler
In this kind of environment.
tim pool
Yeah, you go to a jury trial, and they're like, ladies and gentlemen, this man licked deodorant at Walmart during the pandemic, and they'd be like, he's a witch!
unidentified
Burn him!
adam crigler
But aren't the courts closed?
Aren't the courts closed?
tim pool
I think some of them might be.
Yeah, I don't know.
But it's a case-by-case basis.
Maybe federal courts.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
But look, Assuming the apocalypse isn't upon us, there will come a time where you will stand, you know, in front of a jury of your peers or in a jury, you know, you'll be judged by a jury of your peers.
adam crigler
Yeah.
lydia smith
I have no peers.
tim pool
So, you know, we'll see what happens with this guy.
But speaking of the apocalypse, it's here.
unidentified
Cool.
tim pool
Yes, we are in the end of days.
lydia smith
That's very exciting.
tim pool
We just had a major earthquake in Russia.
Tsunami warning.
We have a locust plague now heading for Egypt.
adam crigler
Multiple locust plagues.
tim pool
Multiple locust plagues.
We have a major pandemic.
And yeah, the end is nigh.
So we did talk a little bit about this the other day.
But we actually had a bunch of stories and big breaking news.
adam crigler
Well, this is our next subject, right?
tim pool
Right.
adam crigler
So let's jump into the Super Chats.
tim pool
Well, we'll just do a preview.
And then we'll jump into the Super Chats.
We've got a bunch of stories about the apocalypse and the weird goings-on around the world.
Before we do jump into that, we are going to take Super Chats.
And I'll try and figure out where we were because YouTube is just really bad for... Alright, there we go.
We're not actually too far away.
Let's, uh... There we go.
We'll just start from here.
Max says, my liquor store no longer allows folks.
I'm in Cheyenne, Wyoming.
No longer allows folks in.
You have to order by phone and then go buy to grab your booze.
Interesting.
Lance says, if this is as bad as they say, would you really want to come back to life to deal with it again?
That's an interesting point.
Cassius says, Tim, are you familiar with the State of Jefferson movement?
I'm in NorCal, and we have all the water and resources.
It is very red up here.
Yes, the State of Jefferson.
lydia smith
Isn't that where they were talking about Oregon breaking off and joining up with Idaho and California?
tim pool
A bigger Oregon-Idaho state.
I was like, that sounds great!
lydia smith
Do it!
tim pool
Yeah, do it.
adam crigler
The divided states of America coming soon.
tim pool
It wouldn't change the number of states, right?
Or would it?
Would it create a new state?
lydia smith
I think it would create a new state.
I believe.
adam crigler
It would not surprise me.
It's so interesting.
tim pool
Well, we're rooting for him, man.
parts of Idaho.
Yeah. Justin Wright says it's called Darwinism.
It's making a comeback. P Baldwin says I played with Jake Allard,
lacrosse player in our college at game together, senior All-American game. The
kid was a monster and a great kid. Well, we're rooting for him, man. He's alive, so let's hope he
gets better.
King Lenny said they should break out the the old iron lungs.
I don't know if that would work.
That just makes your lungs move, right?
lydia smith
Yeah, that's basically a ventilator as far as I can tell.
tim pool
An iron lung?
lydia smith
Old school.
It's like forcibly moving your lungs from the exterior.
tim pool
Yeah, but that's not the problem.
The problem is the air can't get to the lungs.
adam crigler
The lungs aren't absorbing oxygen, right.
tim pool
Viperus says, a quick Google search said that in 2012, researchers at Boston Children's Hospital developed an injectable microparticle that quickly oxygenates blood.
Yeah, I was reading about that.
adam crigler
Interesting, yeah.
tim pool
The Grizzly says, Tim, be careful.
The Democrats may have just pushed us into... Oh, I'm sorry, I read that one.
Aaron Bichard says, you should look up the COVID Queen singing video for some comic relief.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
CoreSonic says, Weird Al has a song called Germs.
It is so relevant to what is happening.
Weirdo.
adam crigler
Great.
tim pool
What was the Netflix movie we were talking about earlier someone mentioned?
Contamination or something?
adam crigler
Yeah, something like that.
tim pool
Eh, we'll figure it out.
adam crigler
It wasn't contagion, it was something similar.
tim pool
Yeah, like contaminant or something.
lydia smith
Contaminant, maybe?
Yeah, we'll look it up.
tim pool
Cassius in New York, thanks for coming members.
Michael Leitner says, government should have suspended all payments for past debt, evict, then no money was needed for rent, business included, just need food.
Smeet Knight says Eagle Scouts are required to have first aid training and
When you do hostile environment training in general for whatever purpose like you could be a journalist
You could be a contractor you do all the basic first aid training stuff, too
You know, it's really crazy every human should know that some people don't know how to apply a tourniquet and they
had to actually tell What?
Well, so, I can understand if you don't know what a tourniquet does, but they were like, now, if you have a wound on your leg, does it go above or below the wound?
Are you serious?
Wow.
You know what?
Logic.
I'm so logic-based, so I would be like, yeah, of course.
You're trying to tie off the limbs of the bloodless.
No, but people didn't know that.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
I'll tell you a crazy story though.
adam crigler
You know what? Logic.
I'm so logic based.
So I would be like, yeah, of course, but a lot of people aren't logic based.
tim pool
So here's a crazy story.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
You know that some people when they see blood pass out.
adam crigler
I do know that.
tim pool
They can't do anything about it.
They're not scared of it.
It's a weird thing.
So when I was doing hostile environment training, they made me do it.
I was offended, by the way.
But it's for insurance.
adam crigler
What made you, what, look at blood?
Or see blood?
tim pool
No, no, no.
ABC made me do hostile environment training with a bunch of noobs who had no idea how anything worked.
And so it was really awesome, by the way, because we did these scenarios.
And they're like, you're in a market.
What happens?
And I was like, pickpocketing people.
And I'm like, these people have no idea what they're doing.
It's awesome.
Of course you when they were doing like a display they said we can't show you a human bleeding out
But he the dude actually explains to us. He's like Some people will see a bleed and they will instantly just
go out boom. They're just their heart slows down They have no blood pressure. They pass out. What is the
lydia smith
evolutionary precedent there?
tim pool
I don't know but it's kind of like those goats that when they get scared they freeze up and fall over
He played a video of a pig femoral bleed Okay
And all of a sudden we heard a loud bang because some dude sitting his chair just went limp and just hit the floor
And then once he hits the floor what happens is...
The blood pressure starts to normalize the blood to his brain.
So now he starts waking back up.
He tries standing up and then back down again.
And so the instructor grabs his legs and lifts his legs up.
So the blood starts getting some pressure back to the brain.
And the guy comes to and tries moving.
And the guy's like, stop moving!
And the dude keeps trying.
He's like, stop!
And everyone's like, whoa, dude.
And the guy just stops.
And then he was like, you just passed out.
Your blood pressure is low.
You have to stop, calm down, and they turn the video off, and then he went on to say, like, for some reason people will see it, and they go, they go out.
adam crigler
Wow.
lydia smith
So weird.
tim pool
Yeah, crazy.
unidentified
Hmm.
tim pool
Side note.
Anyway, let's get back to the super chat.
lydia smith
Yeah, moving on.
tim pool
Jeremiah Uman says, hello from Springfield, Missouri.
Elliot Hacker.
There is a remove Chinese manufacturers slider option Amazon app meme that needs to become a reality.
Stop selling your sovereignty.
Yes, seriously.
Shrek donkey says Ruth Ruth Bader Ginsburg is going to be Biden's VP.
So so when they both die, Pelosi becomes president.
lydia smith
No, no, no.
tim pool
Ascendiate says, does Lydia stand in doorways and not move when you need to get through?
lydia smith
Maybe, sometimes.
adam crigler
Happened to me earlier.
lydia smith
Actually, yes.
tim pool
Generic background character.
I wonder if aliens have some type of space weed that makes you trip in the fifth dimension.
Also like that alien strand.
Is that DMT?
unidentified
Yeah, it does sound like DMT, doesn't it?
tim pool
MK says, the Gestapo went and handled the Jews for having a wedding.
Real classy.
Frack any restrictions.
Let people choose and let others Darwin themselves.
Limits, man.
It's hard.
Decisions are never easy.
Benjamin Goode says, is there anything the president can do to stop extremely necessary legislation from getting bogged down with unnecessary spending proposals now and in the future?
I am a Trump supporter, but love your content.
Keep it up.
adam crigler
Thanks.
tim pool
You know what, man?
November's coming up.
And remember that there is a 1,400-page bill with weird garbage in it that makes no sense.
And I have no idea why we're sitting here saying, like, why can't we get this done?
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
I have no idea.
SK says, Balkanization coming?
All hail Greater Appalachia.
And then, uh, just jumped on us again.
There we go.
unidentified
Stop it.
tim pool
Colton, thanks for the super chat.
Gbart says, our age of civilization is coming to an end.
I would rather fight and die to be free rather than live under a government who thirst for control, uh, to control us to no end.
William says, I'm backed up a few minutes, but look up ECMO machines.
They're necessary for a large amount of people with COVID.
unidentified
Hmm.
tim pool
Michael Revell says, if you cough on someone, potentially you could kill people.
What if the clerk is supporting a kid with cancer?
I'm not for caging people, but I see the dilemma.
I agree.
Wander says, how about a punishment?
A week in jail with $500 fee towards a vaccine for food or food for America.
Some people might not be deterred by that.
Mack Mackenzie says, all hail soy Jesus.
Seriously, give us beanies.
We will not give beanies.
You can buy beanies.
adam crigler
And actually it was just kind of, there was a chat that just passed and it's about moving our production here.
Not only do I want to find a good beanie, I want to make it, I want to find it in the US.
So it's even harder.
So like 90% of what people are sending me for beanies, made in China.
tim pool
Or Indonesia, or like Vietnam.
adam crigler
Somewhere other than here.
So it's like, I don't want that.
You know, one thing I've learned from this is like, we need to bring it here.
tim pool
Maybe we'll just have to hand-stitch them ourselves.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Buy a factory and start a beanie company.
adam crigler
Maybe.
lydia smith
Cost 50 bucks a pound.
tim pool
Lawrence Customs says, my friends overseas said violations are fined.
In our state right now, if you are breaking lockdown rules, it's a misdemeanor offense if you don't have paperwork backing up your travels.
Cameron Young says, my command stated if Prez says return to normalcy, our command would continue in its strict schedule and procedures.
I was placed on COVID-19 info team today.
F me.
Wow.
Shane says, D.C.
Mayor just shut the city down.
Now Pelosi has an excuse to not work.
adam crigler
Great.
tim pool
Tara Olson says, four horsemen gluttony for TP, pestilence for the virus, famine with the locusts and supply chain disruptions, and war that is coming due to all of this.
They're the horsemen.
Andrew Nelson says, what do you think of all the AVE's last-ditch ventilator?
Not meant as a mainline thing, just if there isn't anything else around but it could work.
What's AVE?
I don't know what that is.
adam crigler
Neither do I. What is it?
lydia smith
I'm not sure.
tim pool
I'm not sure.
Zikshi says, fun fact, the CCP spokesman started US conspiracy, followed a famous Japanese porn star first days on Twitter, calling her my babe.
Wow.
Drifted Cowboy says, Google censorship has been lifted regarding Pizzagate, the Podesta artwork, adrenochrome, spirit cooking, and more.
It's, well, this person says it's real.
They have to hide it from us.
Do your research.
Ask why.
I will tell you this right now.
It is not real.
Especially not Pizzagate.
Because I know the people who are making things up, and I watched people make fake stuff that went viral, and it is really annoying to see that people one day just copy and pasted text, and all of a sudden now it's like everyone thinks it's real.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
It's so dumb.
So, so stupid.
Don't believe everything you read on the internet, man.
Do your own research.
Look, I got no... If you told me that a bunch of people in the government are doing drugs and doing really messed up stuff, total... You don't gotta tell me twice, man.
I believe it.
These people are doing tons of drugs and doing nasty stuff.
We just saw those photos of Andrew Gillum.
Yeah, we know what goes on.
The problem is, people started putting out fake texts, fake code words, and everyone just ate it up!
It's so annoying, because I remember when that story was breaking, and it started going viral, and so I'm looking at what people are saying on Twitter, and I'm like, that was literally just made up.
That's not true.
And now, to this day, people think this stuff is true.
Was there weird stuff in the emails from WikiLeaks?
You better believe it.
Do we know what any of it means?
We do not.
The people took those emails, took random words out, and then created memes claiming they meant things that no one ever, ever proved.
And now people believe it.
You get me ranting on this stuff.
The reason it makes me angry is because if we actually wanted to figure out what they were really doing, which is probably drugs, to be honest, because we saw what Andrew Gillum was doing.
Now you've created this fake meme.
Here's my conspiracy.
Pizzagate is the conspiracy.
To actually discredit the fact that these Democrats have been busted doing drugs like meth, they change it to something that makes literally no sense, and make up a bunch of fake nonsense to confuse everybody.
unidentified
Pizza game.
lydia smith
It works.
tim pool
That, to me, is much more believable than the fake buzzwords that are circling around the internet that people think are real.
lydia smith
That would be easy to do.
unidentified
Right.
lydia smith
Then you could just say, it's nothing but nonsense, nothing to see here.
tim pool
And it's easily provable that it's fake.
Easily provable.
Like, some of the stuff that came out from Pizzagate, I know for a fact was fabricated, and to this day, people still think it's real.
And it's like, no matter how much I tell you, like, dude, that's not real.
They're like, I don't believe you.
I'm like, okay, dude.
lydia smith
Alright, enjoy it.
tim pool
But I will say this.
There's like those creepy emails.
Come on, dude.
They're talking about drugs.
They're talking about doing drugs.
And then we just have those photos of the dude in Florida.
Come on, man.
We know they're doing drugs.
And they don't want to admit it because it's illegal and they're the ones.
This is what they do.
They get the keys to the castle.
They have armed security, but no armed security for you.
No drugs for you, but they go and do drugs.
Beast.
All right, where are we at?
Beast on the Run says, does Lydia get to the cloud district very often?
Oh, what am I saying?
Of course she doesn't.
Christopher Lambert says, think about cleaning services who go into a building every night, touch everything, and go to another building and do it again.
In VA, they're considered essential.
Wow.
Greg Langford said, could it be that Trump downplayed the virus at first to slow the panic and enact policies to slow the spread before the Dems try to shut him down?
Yes, and I've said that.
If he came out right away and was like, the end is nigh, they'd attack him for it.
lydia smith
Right, of course.
adam crigler
And the people would riot.
tim pool
Right.
Oh, for sure.
And the stores would get shredded, so he started a task force, shut down travel, and then started saying, no, no, no, everything's gonna be okay, everything's gonna be okay.
adam crigler
Yeah, giving hope.
Giving time for them to actually... So people don't freak out and get crazy.
lydia smith
Unsubstantiated hope.
tim pool
Unsubstantiated hope, they call it.
YuYu says, see the memes about the new government of KY.
unidentified
Oh!
tim pool
I have not.
Denwo says, Derek Jensen for guest, he's deep green resistance.
Sly Bread says, did revelation say the end of the world would be signaled by trumpets or Trump Pence?
lydia smith
Oh, oh snap.
adam crigler
Nice.
tim pool
Alright, where are we at?
Victor says, Do you know evidence for interspecies evolution has never been found in any of the millions of species on Earth?
We only have evidence of intra-evolution.
I don't know what they're trying to say.
Are they trying to say evolution's not real?
adam crigler
Hmm.
lydia smith
Don't know.
adam crigler
No idea.
tim pool
Because we actually just had a story the other day we didn't get to about the Wonder Chicken.
adam crigler
Oh yeah.
tim pool
And how they found evidence of evolution in it.
adam crigler
Let's keep pushing it back so we can talk about it eventually.
lydia smith
Yeah, we gotta talk about the Wonder Chicken.
We'll just leave it on the docket if we don't get to it.
tim pool
Evan Wilbank says, Adam, contact Jocko Wilnick and see if his company will make them.
Oh, Beanies?
unidentified
Wilink.
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Wilink?
adam crigler
Can you write that down?
lydia smith
I'll look him up.
I know him.
Well, not personally.
I know of him.
tim pool
Martin Ramos says, have you heard anything about tonic water for coronavirus?
I have not.
lydia smith
It has quinine in it.
tim pool
Yeah. Big Josh says, If they stand beside you, give them respect.
If they stand behind you, give them protection.
If they stand against you, show them no mercy.
Ants Honey says, Adam, only the best beanie.
Great... oh, Benny. Get the best. Yes.
adam crigler
Only the best beanies.
tim pool
No, don't do that!
By the way, where I work now is busier than selling paint and mulch.
does reviews. Not familiar. Z game says joke from my time in the Marines got a
head wound apply a tourniquet securely the neck no don't do that. Pressure to
the head. By the way yeah by the way where I work now is busier than sell
than selling paint and mulch interesting. William says for ECMO
ECMO they have to flip you on your stomach put two lines in your jugular
trach you in the neck and then put you in a coma.
unidentified
Wow.
lydia smith
That's a mess.
tim pool
Aaron says, here's some coin for Lydia since she carries your burdens.
unidentified
Thank you.
tim pool
Excellent.
Aaron Gianni says, you guys should contact the YouTuber Demolition Ranch.
I believe he manufactures custom shirts and other things.
He might be able to make beanies for y'all.
Cool.
DTQC says, thanks to you I have three plus months of supplies and I don't have to go outside exposing myself.
Salutations from Quebec.
unidentified
Do not expose yourself.
tim pool
Wish you had maple syrup.
We do have maple syrup.
unidentified
Yeah, we do.
adam crigler
Do we?
tim pool
We got some.
Yeah.
adam crigler
Were you hoarding the maple syrup?
unidentified
Yeah, we are.
No, of course we are.
tim pool
We went to Costco, we loaded up a huge truck full.
unidentified
No one told me!
tim pool
No, we got a little thing of maple syrup.
adam crigler
I know, I was just kidding.
tim pool
Alright, alright, alright.
It's the end of the world, man.
adam crigler
Oh, my goodness.
tim pool
The end of the world is upon us, and the signs are here.
adam crigler
What?
unidentified
Biblical.
adam crigler
My grandma's been telling me this for years, actually.
tim pool
Is she really?
adam crigler
I'm dead serious.
She's been telling me for years.
tim pool
What is she saying?
adam crigler
It's the end of the world.
It's coming soon.
Whenever- Why did you think so?
Just random stuff, like anything that's going on in the world, like how times are- I mean, I don't know how we get into these conversations, but she always slips it in there, that it's like, well, I'm not even worried, because it's the end anyway.
I'm imagining- And I know where I'm going.
tim pool
I'm imagining it's like, you're sitting down, and she's like, Adam, I need to talk to you about something serious.
And then it's like, I imagine a time lapse, and she's like, oh yeah, and like, Trump?
Apocalypse.
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Beanie Babies?
Apocalypse.
And you're like, uh-huh.
She's like, yeah, yeah, Papa John's got fired.
lydia smith
Apocalypse.
Yep, yep, yep.
tim pool
Alright, Grandma.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So, this is actually a story from a few weeks ago.
We are in the last days.
Locust swarm approaching Egypt sparks Bible apocalypse fears.
A locust swarm approaching Egypt has led a Bible scholar to claim we are in the last days urging Christians to prepare for the second coming of Christ.
Now, apparently, this story has actually only gotten worse.
China has moved in.
We did talk about it a little bit.
But the reason I bring this up is because the big news is actually this.
Russia earthquake.
Now this is from today.
unidentified
7.5.
Yeah, that's massive.
tim pool
And it sent a tsunami warning through, I think Hawaii got the warning too.
An earthquake which struck near Russia's Kuril Islands has led the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center to warn of possible hazardous tsunami waves within 620 miles.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Check this out.
So I think it does, they gave a warning to Hawaii, You can see, I think, you know, Japan probably got it as well.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Tsunami warnings have been issued after a huge 7.5 magnitude earthquake struck off the coast of a Russian island.
The U.S.
Geological Survey said Wednesday, Wednesday's quake struck 135 miles southeast of Russia's Kuril Islands chain north of Japan.
The Pacific Tsunami Warning Center said hazardous tsunami waves were possible within 620 miles.
It added earthquakes of this strength in the past have caused tsunamis far from the epicenter, and the U.S.
National Tsunami Warning Center was analyzing the event to determine the level of danger.
However, meteorological officials in Japan issued no alerts following the quake, although they said there might be slight tidal changes.
Now, I always have to rain on everyone's parade.
adam crigler
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, you do.
We do it so well, though.
adam crigler
Get at it.
tim pool
It's gonna be a ton of people, and they're gonna be like, oh, man, I'm so interested, like, what are these things happening?
Well, if you'd like to hear about crazy shenanigans, turn on History Channel for Ancient Aliens.
Here, we're a bit more skeptical.
Earthquakes and tsunamis happen.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
They happen all the time, and no one pays attention to them.
But now that we're in the midst of a national emergency, everything is standing out to everybody.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's true.
tim pool
So they're like, locusts, and, like, earthquakes here and there, and it's like, yeah, but, like... We're on high alert.
adam crigler
here we go yeah there's been um a plague of not magpies there's a certain type of bird that's taking over africa really yeah in like south africa not not the country but like south of the continent right and it's they're just they move to where the water is yeah they always know so they're the first ones there they eat up all the green right away and they're just they're just taking over Yeah.
So it's pretty crazy.
tim pool
This one's funny.
Express.co.uk is very bullish on the apocalypse.
The biblical one.
Because they've got a bunch of stories about this.
This one is from March 17th.
Coronavirus in the Bible.
Preacher warns of apocalyptic signs as end of world nears.
What do you mean the coronavirus is in the Bible?
lydia smith
I did not see that reference.
tim pool
Lay the facts upon me, Express.
adam crigler
I need some reference, please.
Yeah, let's go.
tim pool
They say the coronavirus has already killed more than 7,500 people.
Well, it's actually way higher than that now.
But a bigger disaster could be brewing on the horizon.
Indiana-based preacher and evangelist Paul Begley believes the coronavirus is a sign of the end times.
Begley, who preaches from West Lafayette in the U.S., spoke during an online sermon about the prophetic meaning of coronavirus.
In a broadcast titled, Prophetic Apocalyptic Plagues of the End Times, he cited passages from the Bible, that supposedly back his bizarre claims. He said,
the coronavirus has hit the world and no one saw it coming, or at least very few did.
And what's happened is out of Wuhan, China, the coronavirus has exploded on the scene.
The numbers of people infected way up in the thousands, and the death toll rising every day
by the hundreds. And yet there's no cure, no vaccines, and really no one can pinpoint the
origin of this end time plague. Okay, he just called it an end time plague. He hasn't given
us any reason people like why he thinks that. Yeah, I'm still waiting for it.
And while the bodies are piling up and people are afraid, the question becomes
how to prevent it and where will it spread next?
As of 525 GMT on March 17th, more than 190,000 people have been affected.
He says the Bible does talk about plagues in the last days.
adam crigler
Yeah, we already know this.
tim pool
Yeah, more than 190,000 people have been affected.
Okay, so here we go.
adam crigler
Here we go.
tim pool
He says the Bible does talk about plagues in the last days.
He then cited Christian scripture from Matthew 24.
The passage in the Bible reads...
Jesus answered, watch out that no one deceives you for many will come come in
my name claiming I am the Messiah and will deceive many.
And what does that have to do with anything? You will hear of wars and rumors of
wars but see to it that you are not alarmed.
Such things must happen, but the end is still to come.
Nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom.
There will be famines and earthquakes in various places.
Oh man, earthquakes.
adam crigler
How convenient.
tim pool
All these are the beginning of birth pains.
According to Pastor Begley, these warning signs of the end times are already unfolding before our very own eyes.
There is, however, nothing to suggest the coronavirus is big enough or deadly enough to be considered a biblical plague.
adam crigler
Oh, is that it?
Oh, okay.
unidentified
No, no, no.
adam crigler
Is there a little more?
tim pool
Wait a minute.
adam crigler
No, there wasn't.
He said that the Bible refers to the coronavirus.
tim pool
And then they never even said it.
adam crigler
That was not it.
unidentified
But wait, wait, wait.
tim pool
Hold on.
Wait a second.
This article's from what, last week?
adam crigler
I don't know.
I didn't see.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let's check the date on this.
unidentified
What is it?
tim pool
March 17th, I'm pretty sure, right?
Updated March 17th.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And what did he say?
Earthquakes.
There will be famines and earthquakes.
And what are we seeing?
Locusts are ravaging crops.
Locusts are a biblical plague.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And an earthquake just hit.
lydia smith
Technically correct.
tim pool
You know, to be honest, if you're looking for the signs, you can find them.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
Let's be real.
You know what I mean?
lydia smith
You find what you're looking for.
adam crigler
Or they adjusted.
Locusts kind of go crazy.
And I think it's happened before.
It's happened in the same areas, too, where it's happening now.
Right.
People ignore it.
tim pool
Exactly.
What is it, what is it?
The Who said... Wait, the Who said?
Wait, is therefore quite normal for people to worry about the COVID-19 outbreak, how it will affect them and their loved ones.
Regardless, Pastor Begley said, the plagues of the last days or the plagues of the end times, they start the clock ticking.
Yes, right, the end is nigh.
And so, once, you know, of course, there's another story, because I swear, Express loves this.
Coronavirus prophecy.
Bizarre claim four horsemen of the apocalypse have arrived.
Oh wasn't someone in the super chat just talking about this you guys were saying like yeah, it's the horseman Coronavirus has infected a lot of people this is from earlier this month Why are people claiming the four horsemen of the apocalypse have arrived?
lydia smith
One of the horsemen of the apocalypse is death So I'm assuming that might be one that they're referring to?
Famine, plague, or no, pestilence.
tim pool
War, famine, pestilence.
adam crigler
I don't know.
tim pool
I don't know.
Maybe they'll tell us.
Everyone's gonna go nuts in the comments being like, this is, you know, that we can tell you.
The world's in the grips of the coronavirus.
We get it.
Tell us about the horsemen.
I get it.
Look, they just, Express stuffs the article.
And then someone said, here we go.
Militant Christians and biblical hardliners have flooded social media with claims the coronavirus is the harbinger of the apocalypse.
John Angelback tweeted, coronavirus, Hurricane Katrina, you ain't seen nothing yet, pal.
adam crigler
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
Just read the book of Revelation.
Repent of your sins before it is too late.
Ah yes, here's a nice photo of what appears to be the four horsemen, you know, taking people out.
I do care about you, and those who think like you do, and those who don't.
Another Twitter user said, Beginning of sorrows, Matthew 24, 3-8.
Australian wildfires, coronavirus, earthquakes in odd places, increased rage and murders worldwide, massive hunger increases.
And there are those that laugh about the book of Revelation.
But where are these outrageous claims about biblical prophecy coming from?
Many Christians believe the end of the world was prophesied in the last chapter of the Bible, the book of Revelation.
The Book of Revelation details the cataclysmic events that will unfold before the Second Coming of Christ.
One of these events will be the arrival of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, one of which is believed to be represented by the coronavirus.
Here we go.
Death, war, famine, pestilence, or plague.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
Evangelists Gerald Flurry and Wayne Turgeon of The Trumpet said, We have already examined the first three horsemen.
The first is religious deception.
Next is war, then famine.
Wait, which one is religious?
Death is?
With the fourth, pestilence.
These horsemen represent the final end-time culmination of the most traumatic problems endured by a rebellious mankind.
They picture one of the most ominous scenarios ever.
It is imperative that each of us takes heed while there is still time.
Conspiracy theorists have claimed online the coronavirus represents the pale horse and its rider.
Charity Mukaba tweeted, the rider of this pale horse has been released on Earth Day.
We can already see the plagues of locusts and pestilence like coronavirus that have brought death.
Locusts have brought famine.
John the Apostle wrote in Revelation 6 and I looked and I behold a pale horse and his name that sat on him was death and Hell followed with him.
I'm sorry.
I don't understand how the how coronavirus is a horse And I also I also I love to point out that Express just dug up a bunch of tweets from random Twitter users and then claimed like there's some authority here claiming This stuff is true.
adam crigler
I just slapped it together.
lydia smith
Yeah, right The book of Revelations is already really confusing.
I think a lot of Christians don't even understand it.
And there's literally a verse in the Bible that says not even Jesus knows when this is going to happen.
So there's no one who can possibly say with any kind of assurance.
tim pool
Or!
lydia smith
Or what?
tim pool
The apocalypse is now.
unidentified
Yeah!
tim pool
And the horseman is here to kill us all.
unidentified
So, you know.
lydia smith
People are dying.
That's probably it.
tim pool
Look, to be honest, it's the waiting I can't stand.
adam crigler
What if this is it, Tim?
lydia smith
What if this is it?
tim pool
I don't, I don't, they keep running these stories express, like, they must be getting a lot of clicks on these.
adam crigler
I'm sure they are.
tim pool
Well, I think it's fun to point out.
adam crigler
Well, look at the number one, um, videos, you know, trending on Netflix.
tim pool
Nostradamus.
adam crigler
Like, half of them are, like, outbreak, contagion.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
adam crigler
It's all these same things.
Of course it is.
tim pool
They want to talk about locusts and stuff.
There's actually been two very, very terrifying signs that, to me, say the apocalypse is coming.
adam crigler
Oh.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Go on.
tim pool
Yeah, you thought coronavirus was scary?
The first is that Cheesecake Factory will not be able to pay its rent.
Yes.
The end is here.
adam crigler
The end of time.
tim pool
Cheesecake Factory.
Where will I get my cookie dough cheesecake after this?
As far as I'm concerned, my world is coming to an end.
adam crigler
They don't have my sympathy.
tim pool
I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
adam crigler
They don't have a vegan cheesecake, so meh.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no.
adam crigler
Meh.
tim pool
We went there and they were mean to us.
It was one local chain.
They were mean to us.
We walked out.
I'm not gonna hold it against every Cheesecake Factory, but I must digress.
I was just kidding.
Obviously, I don't care that much about the Cheesecake Factory, but there are real signs of the end time upon us.
Like this one.
BuzzFeed is slashing employee pay amid the coronavirus crisis!
My world is ending!
Where will I get my listicles and learn about, I don't know, Billie Eilish?
Who are the kids listening to these days?
lydia smith
Yeah, it's Billie Eilish, unfortunately.
adam crigler
This is actually, funny enough, this is the first time I've seen a Buzz... Oh, this isn't BuzzFeed here?
No.
Oh, okay, I was gonna say, this is the first BuzzFeed article I've ever seen.
tim pool
No, it's not even a BuzzFeed article.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
Well, then I can still say I haven't seen BuzzFeed.
tim pool
So, let me just wrap things up for everybody.
You know, it's fun to talk about the apocalypse and revelations, and maybe we should actually do, like, a deep dive into, like, theories and ideas, like, you know, the procession of the equinox kind of stuff, and what could revelations mean.
For now, we have all these articles popping up where people cherry-pick things and claim it's analogous to some prophecy.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, they said there would be a pale horse.
What they really meant was a tiny virus.
lydia smith
A tiny, pale microbe.
Yes.
Yeah.
It turns up light on the microscope.
tim pool
I'm sorry, man.
I do not see how you connect those two things.
If a dude rode on a horse coughing and gagging and that's what started everything, I'd be like, at least the guy was on a horse!
adam crigler
Or the horse was coughing and gagging.
One of the two.
tim pool
I mean, could you actually imagine if all of this started with a dude riding a horse?
lydia smith
Wait, a bat's not, like, considered a horse, like the Chinese word for a bat?
tim pool
A bat is a horse!
That proves it!
lydia smith
That's it!
There you go!
tim pool
The end is nigh!
lydia smith
You're welcome.
tim pool
Well, you know, I'm glad that we ended this on a light note, because we started on a very, very dark note, where we actually were like, you know, here's what's funny.
You want to talk about the end of the world?
You don't got to talk about Bibles, prophecies, Nostradamus.
You talk about hospitals deciding they're going to DNR people.
lydia smith
Oh, man.
tim pool
That's scary.
That's way scarier.
adam crigler
Yeah, that is pretty frightening.
tim pool
Now, I'll be honest.
If I saw four dudes on horseback flying through the sky, I'd freak out!
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Okay, but that's just not gonna happen, so... I mean, you know, whatever.
I'll reserve the possibility that, you know, we don't know enough about the universe.
Maybe, one day, you'll see, like, some dudes with, like, skulls for heads and swords or something, and, you know... Yep.
For the time being.
adam crigler
We're gonna see the next viral, like, stupid person.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
adam crigler
Running around on a...
Fake horse, you know the blow-up horse.
tim pool
Oh, wait a minute.
Oh gosh Arnold.
adam crigler
Oh the mini horses Arnold's way too cool for that.
So he's trying to help.
tim pool
Yeah, maybe so the governator was like what was he like a hot tub or something on a bench?
The governor that's what we call him the governor And then the little horse came up and like I got to see that video it's pretty funny.
It's on his Instagram or something Let's jump over to these last super chats and then we're about to wind down for the day.
So for those that are still here, hit that like button and subscribe and also follow us because we do the social medias.
adam crigler
Follow me if you want to.
tim pool
But you can send story ideas and tips to everything to Adam.
adam crigler
Also, don't follow me if you don't want to.
unidentified
Oh, OK.
lydia smith
All right.
Good advice.
tim pool
But you can send him stories.
adam crigler
He's always... Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
Send me stories.
Feel free.
I peruse them every day to see if there's anything interesting.
Pretty much we meet up about an hour before the show and just kind of tag team, look at different stuff and...
tim pool
Alright, let's grab the last of these superchats, and then we're gonna be signing off.
But keep in mind, we do the show Monday through Friday, 8pm to about 10pm.
Subscribe and hit the notification bell so that you get notified, because if you miss the show, you will still get- you should get a URL notification that the show was live, and the videos will be unlisted, but we will- we are available on iTunes now, which is great news.
Alright, Aaron says- oh, wait, where's that one?
Sorry.
Let's see, where are we?
Kord, thanks for the super chat.
Victor says, we have no problem believing that hundreds of priests F kids,
but when we talk about politicians doing the same, most people get outraged.
Logic.
Didn't that happen in the UK?
I don't know a whole lot about it, but wasn't there like some big scandal in UK Parliament?
lydia smith
Yeah, there was some dude who was clearly not on the up and up there.
tim pool
Something happened, I don't know.
I don't know enough about it.
adam crigler
Yeah, same here.
tim pool
Drifted Cowboy says, there is far more to the pizza gate than a few memes.
I do not agree.
Research is an ongoing process.
You have dismissed with prejudice before seeking the full picture.
Spirit Cooking, Adrenocoma, and Epstein.
No, the reality is, I know so much more about this than like 99% of people.
Because when the story first started, there were a ton of mainstream Trump supporters tweeting about it, and I was doing a ton of research on it, and I was like, this is not real.
And so I actually talked with some of the people who were sharing fake things.
I'll just put it this way.
I don't care about this.
I ignore it for the most part.
It's a bunch of people who I think, in all likelihood, chased themselves into a spiral where they've now created a fictitious version of what was really going on, which completely undermines the actual thing they're trying to claim is going on.
And, well, that's just the easiest way to put it.
There's literally things that I see every day that people are claiming, look at this thing, this proves it.
And I'm like, I know that that for a fact was made up.
I know for a fact.
I remember when that was made up.
It was literally made up and now they think it's real.
And you know what?
You've based everything off of these lies.
So if you want to talk about what politicians are doing behind closed doors, nasty things with kids and stuff, dude, yeah, there's a bunch of creepy people in power like Epstein.
We know it.
lydia smith
Yeah, obviously.
tim pool
But when you start creating these weird... You know what it reminds me of?
Futurama.
When they go back in time and they crash the alien ship.
Or Bender.
They find Bender.
It's Roswell.
And then he's like, we've invited these generals and a single conspiracy nutter and no one will believe.
And then a guy takes a picture of Bender and the picture is the Loch Ness Monster.
It's just so ridiculous.
If you want to talk about a real conspiracy, it's that y'all got seeded a bunch of very obvious fake information that has now become the basis of something that is easily, verifiably fake, that has thrown you all off course to what the real investigation is.
This is why I can't stand conspiracy theories.
Because if you want to actually uncover the crime and do real investigative work, you cannot assert a bunch of things without hard evidence.
And even if you do believe you have circumstantial evidence, you have to wait until you get the physical, hard evidence.
So you can believe it, by all means.
Start from the beginning, otherwise what happens is they put a bunch of fake memes out there, people then picked it up, and immediately a bunch of journalists were like, I can prove that's false, the whole story's dead.
There's weird stuff in those emails.
Guess what?
You killed the story, congratulations.
Now no one will ever investigate it.
lydia smith
Right, good work.
tim pool
Evans, thanks for the super chat.
Adam says, Demo Ranch's shirt making company is Bunker Branding.
unidentified
Cool.
tim pool
Chekhov all says Jesus returns turned away at customs for being radical cleric
Andrew Levin says and the world challenge accepted Christopher Burke says all praise soy Jesus the merch
Savior Matt Carriker's demo ranch business is bunker branding Co
He deals mainly with making youtubers merch cool You'll probably know
Outlaw bear says 250 K deaths a year from medical malpractice And we're supposed to listen to these people as if they are
all-knowing deities I'm going to work.
We shouldn't.
But, um, the mortality rate will be so much, so much higher if we don't have these hospital beds, so...
You know what, man?
We can overreact, underreact.
No matter what happens, it's gonna get bad and then everyone's gonna point the finger at someone else.
Yeah, that's what I was referring to earlier.
Where was it from?
What was the source on that?
I don't know.
I could pull it up.
The 40 different kinds?
and it's testing in Iceland, and one individual has been found to be infected with two variations
at the same time.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's what I was referring to earlier.
tim pool
Where was it from?
adam crigler
What was the source on that?
I don't know.
lydia smith
I could pull it up.
The 40 different kinds?
Yeah, I saw it go by.
Yeah, I'm not sure.
tim pool
SDK says, not a biblical scholar, but didn't Jesus say, do not look for signs of the end,
for the end will come like a thief in the night?
lydia smith
That is something I've heard as well.
Yeah, it's gonna be a total mystery.
tim pool
Interesting.
Catherine says, allow me to quote Matthew 24 36, but about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
lydia smith
Not even Jesus.
tim pool
Yeah.
David says, it's all cool, bro.
Solomon's Temple hasn't been rebuilt.
OkieDog says, thoughts on what Depression 2020 will be like?
No idea, man.
Really, really don't know.
adam crigler
Not looking forward to it, though.
tim pool
Alright, where we at?
Okay.
Alex says, anyone think some of this is an April Fool's joke?
Sometimes feels like it, you know?
adam crigler
A little early.
lydia smith
Maybe aliens in April?
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Aaron Garcia says, there's a four-fold pattern throughout the entire Bible.
People need to calm down.
I would love to do a deep dive into theories.
Kevin says, Joke's on you, it's an April Fool's joke.
Yep, come April 1st, they're like, we got you!
The whole world cheers and says, woo, we did it!
lydia smith
It's been a test of our emergency preparedness.
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Jeremiah.
lydia smith
I wish.
tim pool
Jeremiah says, Johnny Carson caused a toilet paper scare in 1973.
Did he really?
lydia smith
Really interesting.
tim pool
Jay South says, Horseshoe bats, one of the suspected origins of COVID.
adam crigler
What?
tim pool
Yes, it is.
Like Fry says, So if the planet is suffering from global warming, then all we need is nuclear winter to cancel it.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
lydia smith
What an idea.
adam crigler
Don't put that in the air.
tim pool
John says, Friendly reminder that at the end of the world, Satan will take the form of a seven-headed red dragon and be slain by Jesus.
Is that true?
adam crigler
What?
tim pool
Second Fleet says, Tim, Revelations is a scientific description of the death of soul in about three billion years.
Cool.
Michael, thanks for the super chat.
Small, thanks for becoming a member.
Brandon Crum says, $25 million set aside in the emergency stimulus package for congressional raises.
They gave themselves a raise.
unidentified
Wow.
Oof.
tim pool
I should check into that.
adam crigler
Great.
tim pool
Evil Earl says, the four horsemen are metaphorical.
Right.
Mech Hero says, just checked the live feed of the Senate vote.
Guess what?
They still haven't voted.
adam crigler
What a surprise.
tim pool
Zikshi says, revelations isn't bad if it's true because God is real.
Cord says, check out Last Man on Earth, really funny.
adam crigler
It is a good show.
tim pool
Yeah.
Zen Cat says, how do we follow Lydia?
lydia smith
Oh, on Twitter?
So my name in the chat is Marcella Aurelius, and that is also my Twitter handle.
There you go.
tim pool
It's at Marcellus Aurelius?
lydia smith
Marcellus Aurelius.
tim pool
Shire Logistics says, by the way, 3.79 million square miles in USA.
That's 10 people per square mile.
Interesting.
John Doe says, American Apparel is here in downtown LA.
Make Beanie Club.
Joe Ross, thanks for coming to see a member.
Diego Diaz says, What I get from the apocalypse is that in the end of time Jesus will come back from the skies to take the ones who believes in him and establish his realm on earth and the world will unite to fight him.
Really?
Diego then says, I'm a Christian and I believe in the Bible, but it sounds like aliens to me.
Love your videos, dude.
Keep it up, keep it on.
I'd like to hear other opinions.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
Absolutely.
Appreciate it.
Oh, Jonabob says, forgive us soy Jesus, for we know not what we chew.
unidentified
Cyrillios says, that's good.
tim pool
Should essential employees receive a bonus from their companies for the risks involved in staying open, or should it be a raise on their hourly rate?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Because that's not how economics works.
Doug Fart, thanks for becoming a member.
unidentified
Ah, welcome.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
But I think we're going to wrap things up.
lydia smith
Love it.
tim pool
The show is coming to an end.
adam crigler
Feel free to follow me.
Hit me up with some ideas or whatever.
tim pool
Hit the like button.
adam crigler
Have a good time.
tim pool
Hit the like button.
I think that helps us.
lydia smith
I'm not sure.
adam crigler
How do you not know that by now?
tim pool
Because YouTube has said it doesn't do anything before.
So it's like, then why is it still there?
I don't know.
But we should shout it out, I guess.
No, apparently if you get a ton of likes, they promote your video more.
Oh, cool.
adam crigler
Like, subscribe, hit the bell so you know that we're doing stuff.
tim pool
And then thanks for hanging out.
adam crigler
Yeah, we'll see you tomorrow.
tim pool
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