Julie K. Brown’s episode kicks off with chaotic podcast banter—Bored Ape NFT jokes, Liz perched like a "child on shoulders," and deleted texts over creepy comparisons—before pivoting to Sasha Baron Cohen’s Bruno controversy, where he allegedly manipulated a Palestinian grocer into fake terrorism confessions for shock value. The hosts, Liz, Brace Locked & Loaded, and producer Young Chomsky, condemn "gotcha" journalism, vowing retaliation if targeted similarly, setting the tone for True Enough’s sharp critique of media ethics and comedic exploitation. [Automatically generated summary]
I just threw up my hand like I'm like, you were about to be like, yo, yo, yo.
Yeah.
Well, I was like, in my head, I was because listeners, we've tried to think of like three intros.
None of them have been good.
Yeah, this is the third.
One, I was just calling Liz an elf.
This time, I was like, why don't I say something about bored apes?
And then I was like, you know what?
I don't want to, I don't want to talk about that.
And then I, but thinking about that made me do a thing with my hand where I'm like, yeah, thrusting it towards Liz here.
It's a lot of you, a lot of y'all don't realize that most of the time when we record, Liz is sitting on my shoulders like she's my two-year-old son.
Bored ape stance.
Yeah.
Here's my thing.
Wow, great.
Brace texted me a while back to say, this person looks like a bored ape.
About someone?
Yeah, about someone.
Sent me a photo.
They absolutely looked like a bored ape.
Yeah, I want to be clear on that story.
I told Liz, I said, I texted Liz, I feel really bad about saying this.
And I'm going to delete the message after I sent it to you because I feel guilty.
But does this, this person looks like a bored ape?
And I sent Liz the picture of the person.
Yeah.
And I sent, look, like, you know, they look like a bored ape.
And then I deleted my shit.
But that is, first of all, why are you talking in bored ape voice?
Second of all, you know, it deletes only on your end.
I still have a message.
I don't, but I don't want to see an evidence of my being mean like that.
That just, but I could text it to you.
Don't do that.
But here's the thing, baby doll.
Once I saw my first bored ape, once I, because you know all my moms.
Now you see him everywhere.
I see him everywhere.
Every person is on the street.
I'm like, oh my God.
Like every, you know, the fucking glasses in They Live?
He puts the glasses on.
He says everyone's a scary monster.
Now I put them on.
I wear my regular spectacles.
I walk down the street.
Every single person of me is a bored ape.
Planet of the Bored Apes.
Booyakasha, welcome to True Enough.
You should bring that back.
What, LEG?
Yeah.
It's time, right?
Wait, when did that come out?
Is that a mid-2000s or an early 2000s?
78 came out in 1978.
If it's a mid-2000s, we got a couple years for that to really hit back.
Did you read that Mint Press news article about Sasha Barron Cohen?
I did not know what happened.
This guy is a real asshole.
I knew.
Yeah, he's not a good guy.
What did he do?
He just, I mean, for instance, one guy he interviewed for, I think, Bruno, like his character, which is, I got to say, I've copied.
It's just like, I'm a European gay guy.
Okay.
That's the one.
It was just like, I'm a German homosexual.
Borat is the, is Kazakhstan.
Bruno.
Bruno is German.
or Austria or something from the from the show.
But they made a movie too.
I do.
Oh, they did make a movie?
Bruno's Gay Grocer Gotcha00:01:27
But he goes to Palestine in emails just to Palestine.
Bruno should go to Palestine.
No.
Well, he, he emails this guy or like his producers emailed this like just grocer who is a member of like Fatah, like the political party, and like set up an interview to talk about like the plight of the Palestinians.
This guy's like, absolutely.
Obviously, I'll do it.
They meet at a hotel.
They talk for several hours.
And then in character, Bruno starts, I think it's Bruno.
They start asking him like, oh, can you kidnap us?
Like, you know, are you a terrorist?
All this stuff.
And talk about suicide bombings.
And then they put the movie out and they say that the guy is, I can't remember what they say.
They say he's the head of some like, you know, Palestinian, you know, guerrilla organization and that he's a terrorist and all this stuff.
And he's just like a guy who owns a grocery store.
Oh my God.
Well, if I'm not mistaken, Sasha Vercohen is an Oxbridge guy.
So there's your first clue.
Not a good one.
Second of all, I don't like gotcha, like gotcha, gotcha shit, gotcha comedians, gotcha journalism.
Bad news.
Yeah.
Bad news, dude.
If you try to get me, I'll blow a hole in your fucking head.
Hello, everyone.
I'm Liz.
My name is Brace Locked and Loaded.
We have with us here today producer Young Chomsky.