More Hot Water for Letitia James - April 17th, Hour 3
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Uh but it appears that the Trump administration now has issued a criminal referral for the New York State uh attorney general Letitia James, uh, related to mortgage fraud by making false statements on bank lending applications to receive more favorable terms.
Now, that's kind of exactly what Letitia James tried to prosecute President Trump for as part of her law fair campaign to bankrupt the Trump organization with a half billion dollar fine.
You might recall in the civil case in New York where they had this outrageous fine.
You might recall that the judge in that case, his name was in Goron, you know, uh used the valuation of Mar-a-Lago at $18 million.
If anybody wants to go to Zillow or or Realtor.com or any other real estate website, you will see that Mar-a-Lago is much closer to a billion, if not over a billion dollars in value, and the judge wouldn't even allow real estate experts from Palm Beach to testify in this case.
But anyway, the director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency sent a criminal referral to the DOJ, alleging Miss James falsified documents and property records to obtain loans.
In one incident cited in the referral, James claimed she lived in Virginia to Purchase a home in Norfolk while serving as the New York Attorney General, where she is required to reside for her job in a separate incident.
She allegedly mis uh represented the description of a property that she owns in Brooklyn, New York, to meet the requirements for a government backed loan.
And based on media reports, Letitia James has in multiple instances falsified bank documents and property records to acquire government-backed assistance and loans with more favorable law terms.
It was sent to the Attorney General Tam Bondy and the Dep Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanch.
And they said they will be reviewing it.
By the way, a 2016 report revealed that Letitia James uh had committed at that time.
This is the New York Observer, November 18, 2016, finance fraud, and the city's campaign finance board slapped uh her with a five thousand seven hundred and five dollar fine for various violations committed by her twenty thirteen campaign to become the city's watchdog,
and she had put in claims for public funds during that election cycle, received one million one hundred and fifty-three thousand fifty-eight dollars in public monies, and she was fined fifteen hundred dollars for failing to file pre-election disclosure statements and got hit with, you know, a penalty at that time.
Uh she is not the only elected official that has these issues.
But just as a matter of recall, remember it's Letitia James that said, no one's above the law.
This is before Donald Trump's civil fraud trial.
My message is simple.
No matter how powerful you are, no matter how much money you think you may have, no one is above the law.
And it is my responsibility and my duty and my job to enforce it.
The lie is both powerful and fragile.
And today in court, we will prove our case.
I thank you all for being here.
And again, justice will prevail.
No, justice didn't prevail, was one of the greatest injustices.
John Solomon, founder, editor-in-chief, investigative reporter, just the news.com.
Uh, your reaction to all of this, John Solomon.
Well, I agree with Letitia James that nobody's above the law, and she may soon find that that is the case.
And as you pointed out, she did have this problem a decade ago with campaign finances, not complying with the law there.
Pretty egregious situation a decade ago.
So there's already a warning sign about her compliance with the law.
If you go out and you get a federally backed mortgage or a uh a mortgage regulated by the federal government and you don't comply with the law, you can face very serious consequences.
We know that because another prosecutor, another Democrat in another blue state, uh just a year ago, the former Baltimore State's attorney, uh, went uh was convicted in a very serious crime, which are doing something very similar to what uh Letitia James is now accused of.
So this is serious stuff.
Usually mortgage fraud is a slam dunk case in the courts.
So if this moves forward, if the evidence that the uh federal housing finance agency has uh uh provided to the Justice Department checks out, if it's verified and the FBI feels confident with it, the next step is likely a grand jury investigation and the potential for an indictment of New York's top law enforcement officials.
Yeah.
Uh listen, uh the there's other people that have had these allegations made.
One of them, if I'm not mistaken, is a guy that I always often refer to as the congenital liar, Adam Schiff.
And if I'm not mistaken, didn't he get one of those preemptive pardons that in 2020 when Trump was leaving office said that it's outrageous and and and illegitimate and should never be used, but yet Biden gave him one out the door?
Yeah, uh uh that's right.
He did get one of the preemptive pardons in uh January on January 20th, as for in conjunction to his work with the January 6th committee.
He said he didn't want it, he didn't need it, he disagreed with it, but he took it.
Now, there are two questions about that part.
One, is it as sweeping as it's been portrayed in the media that will likely be tested in the courts at some point?
But two, if you're involved in a mortgage matter, you can also be civilly sued.
A pardon doesn't protect you from civil liability.
So there are two routes in these mortgage cases where people can get pursued.
One of those is criminal, like what we saw the referral yesterday referred to.
On other places, you can be sued civilly for mortgage fraud, something that we saw a lot of during the SNL scandal and other prior scandals.
By the way, wasn't that the civil trial in New York against Donald Trump?
There was a case of that exactly there.
That shows you the liability of Letitia James took the civil route to create uh consequences for Donald Trump.
So uh just the pardon hasn't totally cleared um uh any liability away from Adam Schiff yet.
And you know, Adam Schiff is remarkable.
Uh he's always uh on his moral high horse, but you look over the years how much he misled the American people under the color of government, under the color of being an intelligence committee chair, a member of Congress.
We now know that massive things that he said at the time were not true, and he would have had to have known they were not true because he was getting briefed on uh the Intelligence Committee and the Gang of Eight, and other Gang of Eight members obviously wouldn't say what he said because they knew it wasn't true.
So the history of uh of uh Adam Schiff precedes this concern.
We wrote about this last year.
There's a Senate ethics complaint pending against him on that matter on mortgages and something similar.
He claimed multiple houses as his primary residence.
You're only allowed to take one, and it has to be the one that you live in most of the time.
So uh that's another lawmaker that potentially is uh gonna come up in the conversation when it comes to Letitia James.
Let's talk about other information and documents that you have been able to examine in great detail as it relates to Operation Crossfire Hurricane.
You have found some information uh that I think is extremely enlightening uh after James Comey was fired four months into President Trump's administration.
Uh you had people like Rod Rosenstein and Andrew Weissman, I believe, uh correct me if I'm wrong.
Uh were they not talking about invoking the 25th Amendment and removing Donald Trump from office?
Uh and correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't everybody warned in August of 2020 by Bruce Orr that the dirty Russian disinformation Hillary Clinton bought and paid for a Russian dossier?
Wasn't that uh didn't they say it was a political document and it was not to be trusted?
And didn't James Comey move forward and get not one but four separate uh FISA warrants.
Didn't didn't James Comey sign three of the four?
Didn't Rod Rosenstein throw sign one of those?
Uh what do you make of these new documents?
Uh they're very confirming of the um narrative that we so carefully built with facts over the last eight years that the Russia collusion story was never about evidence, was never about facts, was never about wrongdoing by Donald Trump or any of his things.
It was about creating a political consequence to keep Donald Trump from becoming the president or effectively executing his plan as president.
There are instances in these documents where you see people acknowledging that they were considering wearing a wire to capture the president or entrap the president in a in a conversation.
And they're doing that after the first round of evidence falls apart.
Once they find out that Christopher Steele um dossier is garbage, uh that's a word I think Bob uh Woodward once used for it.
Uh once they found out that the evidence against Mike Flynn wasn't true, there was no basis to pursue Mike Flynn.
Once they had captured Carter Page and George Papadopoulos on intercept saying we would never do those things.
We're Patriots.
We wouldn't sell out our country to Russia.
When they couldn't get the original allegations through, they just pivoted to try to create new crimes to investigate, create process crimes.
This was never about following the law or enforcing the law, having real evidence uh that would back a criminal conspiracy.
Remember, John Durham has concluded there was no evidence to justify the opening of Crossfire Hurricane.
But every time uh uh any notion of an allegation fell apart, they just simply created a new allegation until finally it stopped because Jim Jordan and Mark Meadows and Chuck Grassley and Ron Johnson and Sean Hannity and John Solomon and Sarah Carta got the facts out, and at some point the game was up.
But these documents show it was a get Trump operation and evidence did not matter.
What else did you discover?
You you found a few other nuggets we were speaking late at night this week, and you found a few other nuggets that that a lot of people haven't picked up on.
Yeah, this is I think a really important one because as you have so eloquently uh uh uh uh helped people understand over the years, the intelligence community, the deep state, the FBI bad actors could not have carried out this scam on the American people if they didn't have complicitist players in the news media.
The news Media drove the hysteria, created the perception there was something there when there was nothing there.
Again, another uh player in this drama that didn't care much about the facts.
They cared about the headlines and the clicks and the possibility of knocking Donald Trump out of the presidency, having another Watergate.
How many times did we hear Watergate?
This wasn't even remotely close to Watergate.
But the Washington Post uh and the New York Times, as we've reported, they won Pulitzers in 2018 for their reporting on this.
We now have for the first time direct proof from the FBI files that classified by Donald Trump, released by Cash Patel, that a story in the Washington Post Pulitzer submission is wrong.
They reported that in a conversation, and this is one that was in the Pulitzer package, so it's in a Pulitzer winning article, that Donald Trump tried to pressure the NSA director, Obama's former NSA director who carried over into the Trump administration to say uh that there was no truth to the uh Russian hacking or interference in the election.
That's not what Donald Trump said.
In fact, when he was interviewed, the NSA director said very clearly the Washington Post story is wrong.
And it's not only wrong based on my recollection, there was a contemporaneous document that was written about the conversation that shows exactly what was said, and it's not what the Washington Post reported.
For the very first time, we know a Pulitzer Prize, top journalism award winning article in that in that uh compilation is factually demonstrably false.
Now, you'll say, well, that's great for history, but there's actually a current reason to be concerned about this.
Donald Trump has sued the Pulitzer Committee, trying to force him to withdraw those awards.
This sort of evidence, this FBI 302 interview report and associated documents could become important civil evidence in Donald Trump's quest to get the Pulitzer Committee to reverse this and to uh potentially pay a penalty for defaming him.
You broke this story and and you were the first to to make it public.
In March of 2020, the FBI, for example, knew about the the legitimacy.
They had verified the authenticity of the Hunter Biden laptop.
Uh then they went on a mission to pre-bunk that laptop.
They knew Rudy Giuliani's attorney, Bob Costello had a copy of that laptop.
They knew that laptop would be made public before the election, and yet they were meeting with big tech uh companies in you know on a weekly basis in the months leading up to the 2020 election.
New York Post breaks that story, and sure enough, big tech, even though the FBI knew that it was true, they went to the they the the big tech companies like well then Twitter at the time and now Meta, but Facebook at the time and said, Is this what you've been warning about?
This is likely Russian disinformation, or is it real?
They knew the answer wouldn't tell them.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
Now, listen, uh there was a large number of aiders and abeditors and conspirators that misled the American people for two consecutive elections.
First 2016 on Rush occlusion, then 2020 on Hunter Biden, and quite frankly, Joe Biden's uh ethical conduct.
Um most of them still operate with impunity too.
Yeah, some have lost their in the deep state, have lost their security cramps, but there's been very few penalties, and these publications still have their awards.
These publications still continue dispute stories that we can prove on a daily basis aren't true.
And every so often uh they will throw in a little jab to say, oh, yeah, we were wrong.
And I just want to point this out, uh, you'll you'll laugh at this.
But on Sunday, the New York Times had a long story about a historian that they wanted to highlight.
And way down in the 30th paragraph, I'm not making this up, the 30th paragraph of the story, out of the blue, the New York Times writer said there was no substantiation for Rush occlusion.
Now, it's hard to hear the New York Times ever say that publicly.
They don't, but they stuck it in a 30th paragraph of the Well, I'll I'll believe they believe that when they return their Pulitzer along with the Washington Post, but we'll save that for another day.
Uh John Solomon, just the news.com.
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Because I like to listen to feedback from this audience.
And over the years, the feedback has been very consistent.
That people some people don't like if I have any liberal.
I'm considering they do kind of have a monopoly on the rest of the state-run legacy media mob.
Okay.
And this is my dilemma as a host.
So we brought Taylor Lorenz on last night, and she's the one that was, you know, praising joyful about Luigi Mangioni and all the other comments that she made.
Okay, so I'm going to ask and try and get into the mindset of somebody that would that thinks it's okay.
And then she actually put up the picture of the CEO of Blue Cross Blue Shield.
And confront them on what is, to me, you know, putting a smiley face, as I told her, right to her face on assassination culture.
We see, you know, all the would-be assassins of Donald Trump.
We know all the threats that the president faces.
He just had two recent would-be assassins that they discovered.
Uh, Elon Musk.
Not only are they firebombing his Tesla dealerships and fine firing bullets into them and putting Teslas ablaze and doxing Tesla owners and charging stations ablaze, but that that is domestic terrorism.
What happened to Josh Shapiro in Pennsylvania with the governor's mansion, that would be domestic terrorism.
So this sympathy or silence in some cases towards this violent culture is solely now emerging on the left.
You know, the fact that they don't want to criticize these pro-Hamas radicals that are on college campuses.
Now, Hamas is a designated terrorist organization whose very charter calls for the destruction of Israel.
And I'm not sure what part of October 7th they don't understand, because on that day, the Israelis lost the equivalent of 40,000 Americans that would have been killed in a single day.
And I don't know what part of murder, rape, torture, kidnapping, beheadings, they don't understand, but they've become prominent voices not only on college campuses, but in the halls of Congress.
Very frustrating.
This obsession that we see on the left when it comes to Luigi Manjone.
And I have a hard time understanding that.
I have a hard time understanding, you know, people like Taylor that had actually said, oh, she's so disappointed.
I had heard Joe Biden died, but he didn't die.
I don't like Joe Biden.
I don't wish Joe Biden dead.
And I think it's kind of a sick, ugly culture.
So here's my dilemma.
I put her on last night and I start asking her about it.
She wants to only debate the healthcare system.
Well, a lot of people hate healthcare providers.
I'm not asking you about that.
I'm asking you why you're saying he's handsome and intelligent and you felt joy, etc., etc.
And I want to understand the mindset.
That was the focus of the segment.
She doesn't want to talk about the folks.
She wants to distract, divert, and obfuscate any real discussion about the things that she's been saying that sound awfully supportive to me about this culture.
Here's my dilemma.
Some of you don't even like the fact that I have her on.
Okay, fair criticism.
I have to I I have to balance the show and occasionally put on people that I disagree with.
Then if I let her talk uninterrupted and she's not answering my question, there are going to be many at home that are furious with me for not stepping in and challenging her.
Especially when when she starts out by not answering the question every time.
And then there's another group of people that if I'm interrupted, why don't you let her finish?
Because she's not answering the question.
And I'm trying in the limited time I have on TV in a segment like this, seven minutes or ten minutes, whatever it ends up being, I need answers to questions.
I need a real dialogue and somebody that's going to filibuster.
I'm not getting anywhere with that.
So I'm going to play this interview.
With that, please keep that in mind.
I can't win for losing in these situations.
Because the people that don't like confrontation, interruption, and then the people that want me to hold this woman's feet to the fire, keep her dialed in and focused, and don't let her off the map until she actually answers the question.
I have to balance it.
So I'm not gonna make everybody happy with this.
But I'm just trying to make you aware.
I hope you all give me grace.
And but just notice she won't answer Let's play it from last night.
All right.
Try and explain this to me.
You feel joy.
Those are your words.
So you felt joy over the murder of this father.
No, those are the words you use.
You can shake your head all you want.
No.
Um we have the tape.
And and number one, then you go on to say, and people wonder why we want these executives dead.
Then you posted an image of the blue cross CEO, Kim Keck.
Now let me ask you, what part of this United Healthcare CEO being a father and a husband, don't you understand?
And what part of you having a choice of what healthcare provider you choose to deal with or not, do you not understand?
Because you don't have to go with United, you don't have to go blue cross.
So let me just be extra clear.
Never did I say that I felt joy in his death.
I said very explicitly, if you play the full segment, and actually people can watch that segment on my YouTube in full, not the edited version that Pierce showed.
I said that I felt joy along with millions of other Americans, that the brutality of our health care system was finally being acknowledged.
I believe that our current healthcare system is murderous, right?
I mean, we have uninsured Americans with a 40% higher risk of death compared to insured counterparts, nearly 70,000 Americans died.
But that's not the topic.
Taylor, that's not the topic.
If you can talk about health care, I don't like the healthcare system either.
And a lot of people have experienced frustration, like you're saying.
That to me is separate and apart from the debate of praising, calling handsome, smart, intelligence, being joyful over the death and assassination of innocent people.
And that's what your comments did.
Your comments basically put your seal of approval on murder and assassination.
And I'm trying to understand whether you like this guy, like the way he does business or not.
You're advocating and putting a smiley face on assassination.
And I'm trying to understand what is in your soul that that doesn't understand he's a father and a and uh uh a husband here.
What are you missing?
There seems to be a missing chip with you.
Sean, if you'd like to hear, uh you know, I will need to talk uh in order to explain.
I don't want the rationalization.
I want you to think about what you said.
Explain you.
I I again I'm attempting to right now, so I'd ask you to please give the space and try to listen here.
As I said once again, never did I say I felt joy that this man died.
I said again that I felt joy that millions of Americans are or millions of really wealthy Americans and privileged Americans are forcing or forced to wake up to the reality that nearly 70,000 Americans die each year due to lack of health insurance.
I do feel joyful that that is an interesting.
Why would any human being with a conscience and soul be joyful over an assassination of any person?
Why would anybody be joyful over that?
Well, actually, that's a good question.
Why don't I explain?
So the other uh clip so the other clip that you played is not me saying my own beliefs.
I have quite different beliefs from that.
What I'm describing, and if you watch the full segment, not just the clip, you'll see that I'm describing the mentality of these fangirls that show up outside Luigi's court and show up outside his jail cell.
Those girls are not me, okay?
We have very separate belief systems, but I was describing how they believe.
And now let me explain to you why people in America feel this way.
People in America feel this way, and they feel outraged because again, every penny of the 22 billion dollars in profit made by United Health was made at the expense and suffering of others.
And that is violence.
Our healthcare system is also violent, and that is a violence that people in the mainstream media, such as yourself continue to refuse to acknowledge.
So if you're going to talk about death and violence, it's crucial to work about the violence.
There's a better way than saying that that Luigi Mangioni is a revolutionary who's famous, handsome, young, smart.
That is what those people believe.
That is what those people believe.
And seems like he's a morally good man.
If you want to have legitimate criticism, you could write your uh an intelligent piece saying, here is what's wrong with America's health care system.
Like, for example, I want health care savings accounts.
Uh I would like to see more of the use of telemedicine.
Uh I believe in health care cooperatives.
I know one that works, uh, Josh Umber, uh Atlas MD, average person, 24 hour concierge care, 50 bucks a month.
There are better ways to do it.
That's a legitimate debate.
But that's not how you're saying it.
You're saying it in ways that are sympathetic to the people that are taking action.
Good looking.
This is why people who are happy and joyful.
I'm describing the belief system of his supporters, Sean.
Taylor, do you condemn people that call for assassination?
Unless you're gonna ask if I condemn Hamas next.
This is crazy.
I would love for you to acknowledge what I'm actually saying, Sean.
And you we seem to be talking past each other.
I want to talk about the fact that the volunteers are super delayed because of cost.
We need to talk about the 70% of Americans, by the way, believe that the insurance company practices are responsible in part for Thompson's death.
These are signs of an unhappy.
I am saying anybody that wants to assassinate any innocent person is wrong.
I don't care if it's a Democrat or Republican or a father or a husband, and I speak that that is a simple truth that anyone with a heart would easily say on national TV.
If you want to prevent further deaths, and you don't want gun violence in the street, which I think we both are aligned in in wanting, right?
We want peace.
We do not want violence in this country, no matter what side of the political aisle it's coming from.
You need to understand motives and you need to understand the ideology that people have.
And that is what my job is.
Why don't you first start with the basics?
I'm going to help you out.
Why don't you first condemn those that want to be involved in assassination and stop talking about them being handsome and smart and intelligent and— I'm not, I didn't say that I believe that idea.
I am describing his supporters who do believe that.
And I think it's very important, just the way that I would try to understand the ideology of the people.
When you condemn his supporters, last question, the right rally, I would try to understand the ideology of any of anyone that would advocate for violence in the world.
Do you condemn his supporters?
Once again, I believe in free speech.
I believe in free speech, and they have not committed any crimes.
The supporters are outside just saying things.
They're not committing any sort of action.
You won't condemn his supporters.
You won't say what they're doing is repulsive.
Once again, Sean, I believe in free speech and the right to free expression.
I seem to be in the minority.
There's a difference between assassination and speech.
Do you condemn those that support violence and And in this case, praise Luigi uh Luigi Mangioni.
You asked again, the people that are showing up outside of the channel.
Exercising their free their right to free speech.
They are talking about the fact that over 320,000 people died from lack of health insurance in the first two years of the pandemic show.
They have things that we need to acknowledge if we ever want to fix our system.
We have a violent, violent health care system, Sean, and it needs reform, and that's what we should be focusing on.
That's the violence we should censor.
And people that have a platform like yours should speak out loudly and clearly and unambiguously, and you won't do it.
All right, that's gonna wrap things up for today.
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By the way, you like uh comedian Tim Dillon, right?
Absolutely.
Yeah, he's on tonight.
Horace Cooper, uh, Stephen Miller, Victor Davis uh Hanson, Jason Chafetz.
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