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Best of Hannity: Battle of Executive Authority - April18th, Hour 3
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I do agree that the Democratic the Democratic Party brand is really problematic.
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So the only thing, the only power, if you will, the left has to stop the mandate that Donald Trump got in the last election is well, they lost electorally, so they what they can't get done that way, what they can't get done legislatively because they don't have control of the House or Senate.
Uh, they go racing to the courts and they look and they do a little judge shopping, they find the right radical leftist activist, judge, or jurist, and and they try to stop the president's agenda that way.
Now, President Trump has experienced more of this.
Frankly, it's a it's an extension of lawfare and weaponization as far as I'm concerned.
And we have talked at length about how to stop it.
We're gonna get into more details here in a second.
Uh this morning, J.D. Vance, the vice president, was on Fox and Friends, and here's what he said about this.
Well, there are a lot of things that we can do.
Uh not just appeals.
We can limit the jurisdiction of certain courts.
Even when certain courts make a ruling, say that you're not allowed to deport a person for a certain reason.
We can still deport that person for another reason.
So it's not like deportations have stopped, but yes, the radical courts are a problem.
But our view here is we knew we were gonna have this fight.
We were prepared for it, we're gonna litigate it all the way to the Supreme Court.
We think that we're gonna win, and when we do win, that will end this question permanently.
Think about this.
The Democrats, they're spending so many resources fighting the deportation of gang members.
You have to ask where are their priorities.
But we knew they were gonna do this, we're prepared for it, Lawrence, and we're gonna fight all the way to the top of the courts.
When you think about it, I mean, they're the party now, the champions the rights rights of men to play women's sports.
They're the party that that puts the rights of illegals over the safety of Americans.
I mean, Jamie Raskin demanding going as far as to demand that the return of these illegal alien gang members, Trend Aragua gang members that were sent to El Salvador.
Uh I'm fine with that plan under two conditions that they have to live under his roof in his house with him, and they have to have ankle bracelets on in case they try to escape his house.
Listen.
I call on them to demand that the Trump administration comply with all judicial orders while appealing whichever ones they want to appeal.
And to demand the return of people unlawfully taken to El Salvador on that so-called plane full of gangbangers.
Yeah, let's let's bring back the Trendaragua gangbangers.
Let's bring them back into the country and let them move straight into Jamie Raskin's apartment or home or wherever the hell he lives.
That's a brilliant idea.
Now, on that particular issue that deals with the Alien Enemies Act.
There are other ways you can deport people, and the administration is now implementing them as we speak.
Um, but that's only one example of judge shopping.
That's one example of judicial activism.
The Constitution is clear.
There have been four presidents that have used the Alien Enemies Act, and there was a 1948 Supreme Court ruling that upheld the president's authority to deport people that that he deems to be illegal aliens.
And by the way, Trend Aragua is now designated a terrorist organization.
So if you're a member of that gang, you should be deported immediately.
So the president has every right to do so.
The interesting part of the decision is the court was very clear that it is not subject to judicial review.
They upheld the authority and the constitutional rights of the president, the constitutional duties of the president to enforce such actions as the commander in chief.
Now, there are other issues that have come up, legal issues.
Uh one op ed, by the way, in the Wall Street Journal by Dan Huff was gonna join us here in a second, uh, pointed out something we brought up the other day in the Wall Street Journal brought up the other day.
And in the case of Judge Bosberg's deportation order and dozens of similar injunctions, he points out they're legally invalid because they failed to impose what is a mandatory bond, mandatory, not subjective in any way, mandatory, bond required under Rule 65 C of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure.
Without the bond, those rulings uh are likely not legally enforceable, which is the interpretation of Pam Bondy and others.
Anyway, Dan Huff, former White House attorney joins us now.
Sir, how are you?
I'm great.
It's an honor to be here.
All right, let's talk about lawfare.
Let's talk about the injunctions.
Let's talk about the lower courts, and let's talk about Rule 65 C. Well, you know, it's interesting.
I guess he'd talk about uh let's get all these trend oragua uh, you know, criminal alien gang members and put them in Jamie Raskin's home.
And what you're really saying is, let's see, you gotta have some skin of the gang.
All right, let's see how you behave when the when the you have to suffer the consequences of the things you say.
And that's really what Rule 65 is all about.
It's making sure that uh plaintiff seeking preliminary injunctions have skin in the game.
And specifically, if they want to block uh defendant from taking action, if they want to block the government from taking action, they want to block it up front before a full trial, then those plaintiffs have to post bond to compensate the defendant for any costs or damages uh that result from being wrongfully enjoyed.
So in the Boseburg case, you're telling you're telling the government turn around the planes, put these people in prison, hold them there at cost.
Well, if you want to do that, then the people who want that to be done should have to pay for it in case, as is highly likely, the Supreme Court says that the government had every right to do that citing, among other things, the case that you brought up.
And because it isn't happening, because Judge Bosburg did not require that, that injunction is invalid.
Actually, with a temporary restraining order is invalid, and the government was not required to uh to comply.
Let's look, let's talk about specifically what the bond refers to, because if you're causing this action and forcing people to pay money and ultimately it is overturned, what does that mean for the people that Bring this this court proceeding.
So the way it's supposed to work is is they're supposed to put up bond up front.
They're supposed to put up the money to pay those costs, and when they lose, that money goes to the injured party here, the government.
So let's say the cost of turning around that plane is is uh you know $20,000 and holding them and comes to you know a couple of million dollars, they have to put that bond up front, and if it's later overturned, they lose that money, which is why this bond requirement is so important, because the basic idea is to deter frivolous litigation.
You won't bring those cases if you know you could lose all that money later on when your uh preliminary injunction gets overturned on appeal, even if you have a sympathetic judge down below.
And that winds up deterring this frivolous litigation and preventing these types of things from even starting, you know, to begin with.
It's it's almost the version of loser pays.
You bring a lawsuit, you lose, then you should pay the attorney's fees for the people uh uh that were involved.
I think that would result in far less litigation, far fewer lawsuits.
Uh I know maybe attorneys groups don't like the idea of it.
I like it a lot.
I knew I know European countries often use that that strategy.
I think it's a good uh law personally.
It gets rid of frivolous lawsuits.
I like the idea.
Yeah, and I think that that's a very good analogy.
And what's important to remember too is that it's not as if you can't bring a lawsuit uh without a preliminary injunction.
If you really think you've been wrong, you can go bring that lawsuit and have it completely litigated on the merits and never seek a preliminary injunction.
Preliminary junction is pretrial, it's before the full hearing on the marriage.
So you just go, you litigate it out.
If you can't afford the injunction, you simply don't uh afford the bond, you simply don't seek the injunction.
So the court doors are not being slammed on anyone.
And I think that's really important to remember.
It's just a question of whether we're gonna let activists score quick, upfront victories without having to prove their case.
And the bond helps say no.
And if you really want to bring your case, go bring it.
And if you can't afford the bond, that's fine.
You just won't get a preliminary injunction.
You'll have to go through the ordinary process.
So it's really completely fair here.
And and one other point that things are really important to remember is that we're not in this situation by accident.
Okay.
Uh it started in the 80s.
There were large review articles where you had activists saying we want to use the courts to achieve our agenda to impose our ideology.
And the problem we're gonna face is these bonds.
We're not gonna be able to pay these bonds.
If we want to stop stop the construction of an of an airport, if we want to, you know, stop the government from uh halting welfare payments, we're gonna have to post these enormous bonds that we may lose.
We can't afford it and it'll kill us.
So we've got to figure out a way to sideline these bond requirements.
And sort of systematically, they started going to sympathetic judges and getting decisions that try to minimize or reinterpret the bond requirement to say that they didn't need to follow it.
But it's all lies.
Like if you read the requirement, it's crystal clear, the history's crystal clear, it's mandatory, it must be done.
Okay.
So this this this process, and by the way, to the credit of the Trump administration, they identified the legal off ramp and this March 11th memorandum directing the Department of Justice to demand bonds in future injunction cases.
Uh I I think it should be retroactive because the rule has been in place personally.
So I would I would I would argue that that that decision should be rendered um unenforceable, and I think that's Pam Bondi's take on it as well.
Uh but moving forward, I think the long-term solution is gonna be legislation.
Now, Chuck Grassley is introducing legislation in the Senate in the House, Jim Jordan and others are working on legislation there uh that would prevent these lower court judges for us surping the power of a duly elected president of the United States and his agenda.
Uh I think that's a better long-term solution.
Do you not agree?
Well, I think it's a very important solution because there's a real uh in t intuition behind that, right?
Judges should not be one judge, one lower court judge should not be able to set a rule for the entire nation.
And what those bills that you referenced do is they say that a judge can issue a decision that binds the parties before him or her.
It doesn't go beyond that.
And that sort of is a is a very sort of fair way of handling it.
My concern with these uh uh these approaches are that it's just going to be very hard to pass them.
Um even that bill that was supposed that uh uh Mr. ICE, a representative ISA introduced to do just that was supposed to be voted on the House this week and it got uh sidetracked because the House had to uh go out of session for a totally unrelated reason and I think that just uh speaks to the difficulty of a legislative solution but ultimately yes that would be a very good way to do it the advantage of the injunction bonds that I'm bringing up is that it sort of merely requires people to enforce the law as is without having to pass something missed.
Well said I really do appreciate your analysis, your expertise uh Dan Huff, thank you for being with us.
We really appreciate it.
Thank you for having me.
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Jim how are you?
Glad you called hey God bless Texas and I'm honored thanks for uh taking my call Sean and hats off to your outstanding call screener Katie she does an excellent job.
Why does everybody suck up to Katie and to Linda it's very annoying.
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Hey I wanted to uh just uh sound off on uh Donald Trump inviting Bill Maher to the White House whatever day it was and uh I gotta say uh I'm no no real fan of Bill Maher.
I was when I first heard him with his new rules, and then I listened to him for years and just wrote him off as a leftist nut job.
And then he started to get a little more, you know, fair and impartial the last year or two.
But I think it was an awesome gesture and olive branch that Donald Trump had him in the White House, had the enemy inside there.
Because, you know, the best way to keep track of your enemy is to keep him close to the vest.
And I think winning Bill Maher over it, at least neutralizing him was was good for him.
He uh I'll tell you I'm a young Republican in the Reagan era my my first vote ever was for Ronald Reagan three weeks after my 18th birthday in 1980 and and Reagan changed this country much as Donald Trump is doing Trump I think is even doing better.
One thing Trump will do is he will fight at the drop of a hat.
He's a New York fighter he was raised and born that way that's what people love about him but he's got to understand when he's he's the president he's got to be able to offer those olive branches and Ronald Reagan did a great job of that he was the master at reaching across the aisle and going out with Tip O'Neal for lunch every week and you know and making friends of his enemies and I think Donald Trump has has mastered that and should continue to do so.
You know, he brought uh Joe Blow uh and Mika into the Mar-a-Lago, I think it was last year.
And I think that was a good thing.
I can't stand either of those two.
They're leftist nut jobs, they lied, they distort the truth.
They've been nothing but basic Trump for years.
But him bringing them in shows he he's the bigger man, he's a bigger man and big enough to be president.
Um and he's doing an excellent job, and I just I commend him for it.
I think he should keep doing it.
Keep inviting them in.
Win them over with love.
Don't don't you don't have to beat them up in the rink with hate.
Just win them over and show them what you're doing well and show them your success.
Does that help?
I think it helps a lot.
And let me tell you something.
There are there are differences in style with Reagan and Trump.
I think at the end of the day, as successful as Ronald Reagan was, and he was successful.
The Trump agenda's the most transformational.
And if we help him be successful by putting pressure on Congressmen and Senators, etc., I'm telling you, this country is going to be on the right track, and it's gonna help our children, our grandchildren, future generations, and I think it's just gonna be uh a boom for the entire country.
Anyway, I appreciate the call.
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Um, President Trump announcing tariffs and in a second, an unlikely ally.
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April 2nd, 2025 will forever be remembered as the day American industry was reborn, the day America's destiny was reclaimed, and the day that we began to make America wealthy again.
For decades, our country has been looted, pillaged, raped, and plundered by nations near and far, both friend and foe alike.
American steel Workers, auto workers, farmers, and skilled craftsmen.
We have a lot of them here with us today.
They really suffered gravely.
They watched in anguish as foreign leaders have stolen our jobs, foreign cheaters have ransacked our factories, and foreign scavengers have torn apart our once beautiful American dream.
Our country and its taxpayers have been ripped off for more than 50 years, but it is not going to happen anymore.
It's not gonna happen.
This is one of the most important days, in my opinion, in American history.
It's our declaration of economic independence.
For years, hardworking American citizens were forced to sit on the sidelines as other nations got rich and powerful, much of it at our expense.
But now it's our turn to prosper and in so doing use trillions and trillions of dollars to reduce our taxes and pay down our national debt, and it'll all happen very quickly.
If you want your tariff rate to be zero, then you build your product right here in America because there is no tariff if you build your plant, your product in America.
All of the foreign presidents, prime ministers, kings, queens, ambassadors, and everyone else who will soon be calling to ask for exemptions from these tariffs.
I say terminate your own tariffs, drop your barriers, don't manipulate your currencies, they manipulate their currencies like nobody can even believe, which is a bad, bad thing and very devastating to us, and start buying tens of billions of dollars of American goods.
Now, believe it or not, we found a clip of Nancy Pelosi in the nineties, talking about tariffs and a trade deficit.
And uh listen to what she had to say about tariffs and a trade deficit.
It's a little long, but I think it's worth playing.
Because he sounds an awful lot like Donald Trump.
Listen.
How far does China have to go?
How much more repression?
How big a trade deficit and la loss of jobs to the American worker, and how much more dangerous proliferation has to exist before members of this House of Representatives will say, I will not endorse the status quo.
As I mentioned, it's about jobs, proliferation and human rights.
And there are those who say we shouldn't link human rights and trade and proliferation and trade.
I disagree.
But if we just want to take up this issue on the basis of economics alone, indeed, China should not receive most favored nation status for many for several reasons that I'd like to go into now.
I'd like to call the attention of our colleagues to this chart on the status quo that the business community is asking each and every one of you to each and every one of us to endorse today.
Right now we have a $34 billion trade deficit for with China, the 1999 figure.
It will be over 40 billion dollars for 1996.
Since the Tiananmen Square massacre, this figure has increased 1,000 percent, from three and a half billion then to about 34 billion dollars now.
In terms of tariffs, I think it's interesting to note that the average U.S. MFN tariff on Chinese goods coming into the United States is two percent.
Whereas the average Chinese MFM tariff on U.S. goods going into China is 35 percent.
Is that reciprocal on exports?
China only allows certain industries into China of U.S. uh industries into China, and therefore only two percent of U.S. exports are allowed into China.
On the other hand, the U.S. allows China to flood our markets with 30 a third of their exports, and that'll probably go over 40 percent, and and it's limitless because we have not placed any restriction.
In terms of jobs, this is the biggest and cruelest hoax of all.
Not only do we not have market access, not only do they have prohibitive tariffs, not only are our exports not let uh uh let in very specifically, but China benefits with at least at least 10 million jobs from U.S. China trade.
The president in his statement, grant uh requesting this special waiver said that it it uh China trade supports 170,000 jobs in the United States, 170,000 jobs, whereas our imports from China support a milli ten million jobs at least.
Fact is that that U.S. China trade is a job loser.
And and one of the reasons that it is is because in order well, first let me just make another point, and that is that our colleagues on the other side of this issue will say the trade with China, exports to China have increased three times in the last ten years.
They have.
But they failed to mention that exports, imports from China have increased eleven times, thereby leading to this huge trade deficit.
The other issue, in addition, if if intellectual property is a two billion dollar, three billion dollar loss, technology transfer is in the hundreds of billions of dollars.
If you want to sell to China, your products into China, the Chinese insist that you open a factory there.
They take misappropriate your technology, open factories of your own their own, and then say to you, now we want to see your plan for export.
That's as simply as I can say it briefly.
But the fact is this isn't about products made in America.
The Chinese want American products that are made in China.
And the most serious of these uh um transfers of technology are in the airline industry, where Boeing tail sections tail sections of the Boeing 737s were mostly made in Wichita, Kansas.
Now they are made in Shen province, where workers make fifty dollars a month.
And they had the transfer of the technology and the transfer of the jobs has taken place.
General Motors, Ford, they're all fighting to get in to build factories there so they can make parts there.
They want MFN so they can get those parts back into the United States.
So we are exporting not low-tech jobs and textile jobs.
We're exporting our technology.
Now, if you take a country the size of China with the cheap, the very cheap and in some instances, slave labor, the lack of market access, the rip-off of our intellectual property, the transfer of technology, a country that is not willing to play by the rules in any respect in this trade relationship, you have a serious threat not only to our relationship, but to the industrialized world.
And if there's one message that I want our colleagues to understand today and our constituents, is that on this day, your member of Congress could have drawn the line to say to the President of the United States, do something about this U.S. China trade relationship that is a job loser for the United States.
And this brings us to the point that others have said, well, we can't isolate China.
Do you think for one minute that with 10 million jobs at least and 35 billion and be over 40 billion dollars this year in a trade surplus, all those billions of dollars in circles that the Chinese are going to walk away?
Where are they going to take 35 to 40 percent of their exports?
Who's going to buy them?
This is what sustains the regime.
The the funding and the jobs, they can't have those people out of work.
They have to be at work exporting to the United States.
It just reminds you of how radicalized this party has become.
Anyway, 800-941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
Let's say hi to Jim, my free state of Florida.
Jim, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hi, Sean.
It's a pleasure to talk to you.
Um listen, about this tariff uh thing.
I thought he was going to do it reciprocally, which means even for even, but it seems like he's doing 50 percent mostly.
I think you should just do the full 100 percent of what they're trying.
You know, did they charge us?
We charge them.
He's doing that that way now.
I think what he's doing is leaving open the door.
If you want to end this if if you want free and fair trade, our door is open.
And we already see movement today.
I mean, uh I mean, this is now for car companies in particular, it is opening the door of if 94% of vehicles in in some place like Japan, for example, are or Japanese cars.
Why aren't 94% of American vehicles American cars?
I mean, I've always felt that way, but uh, you know, however, Toyota, you know, other companies uh from over overseas, if they have if they manufacture their cars here, that's that's fine.
But something's got to be done.
I mean, it's just so unfair to our workers, our manufacturing capability.
Uh it weakens our economy when you have a country like Germany that has a 10% tariff and then a 20% value added tax, which is a national sales tax, it makes an American car in Germany cost prohibitive.
Well, that's not a level playing field.
Like Trump said, he's been talking about this since the back in the eighties when he was on Oprah.
He uh commented about it.
He he absolutely did, and he was right then, and he's right now.
Yeah.
Anyway, my friend, appreciate the call.
You're right on the money.
Uh let's say hi to Larry in Wisconsin.
Larry, how are you?
Glad you call.
Hello, Sean.
Uh yeah, I was listening to your conversation with uh I think it was Bill O'Reilly about the Wisconsin Supreme Court thing, and towards the end, Bill said, Hey, I think Wisconsin's going blue.
And I'm like, No, no, no, no, we're not.
We voted for President Trump.
There's plenty of us here.
Plenty of us ready and willing and Well, it's still it's still considered a swing state.
I don't I don't think you can make any judgments based on the race for the Supreme Court, as I had pointed out.
Uh as much as I would have preferred the conservative to win, and we had him on the program before the election, both radio and TV, as much as I would have preferred that.
It didn't happen.
And as much as I, you know, understand uh look, it came down to me to one issue.
And you were in Wisconsin, you were probably watching the ads, but he supported an a law in the eighteen hundreds on abortion.
He made a number of comments, and that law does not make exceptions even for rape incest of the mother's life.
To me, that makes any candidate unelectable.
Did you see a lot of abortion ads in the state of Wisconsin in the lead up to Tuesday's vote?
Yeah, and a lot of nonsense about you know who led who go as far as criminals and yeah, I I don't even pay attention to him to tell you the truth.
But uh, yeah, I mean, I I think you're you're dead on right about the abortion thing, and that's what people a lot of people voted for.
Yeah.
Yep.
Uh yeah, I mean, I think that's a big issue.
Um look, uh my my personal views on abortion are are one thing.
Would do I think my views are the same was where the country is?
I do not.
I think probably the country is at twelve to fifteen weeks.
I mean, looking out at how it's playing out in states like Mississippi, I mean, 15 weeks seems to be a consensus um number or belief in terms of a woman's right to terminate a pregnancy.
Uh, do I like it?
No.
I mean, Bill Clinton famously said, legal rare, and I would add the word early.
Uh, with the abortion pill decision in the Supreme Court, it pretty much is codified the first trimester abortion availability using the pill versus you know the the old methods of of getting an abortion.
So I I think in that sense, it's uh it's a moot point in terms of the first trimester, and the states will make their respective laws.
It's going to be up to the states.
However, that's where that became an issue in the in the Supreme Court race that you just dealt with on Tuesday, but I think it's an untenable political position for anyone to be in.
If you're on record against exceptions for rape incest mother's life, I don't think you can win.
When Doug Mastriano ran again Josh ran against Josh Shapiro in Pennsylvania.
I mean, that was his position, and he lost by the largest percentage of any gubernatorial candidate in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania to a non-incumbent since the 1940s.
That's how big an issue it was in the state.
It became a big issue, I think, in Wisconsin in this race.
It in my view, in many ways, made it unwinnable, talking about Brad Schimmel in this case.
Anyway, my friend, I appreciate your call.
And the 26% of voters that want voter ID in Wisconsin, that was huge.
The two congressional seats in my state of Florida, that was huge also.
Anybody that's spinning it any other way is just flat out lying to you.
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