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Trump vs. Maine - April 17th, Hour 2
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So Pam Bondi announcing a civil suit against the state of Maine Department of Education over their refusal to protect women, girls, in sports.
And here's the announcement from yesterday.
Today, the Department of Justice is announcing a civil lawsuit against the Maine Department of Education.
The state of Maine is discriminating against women by failing to protect women in women's sports.
Pretty basic stuff.
This is a violation of Title IX.
The Department of Justice will not sit by when women are discriminated against in sports.
This is about sports.
This is also about these young women's personal safety.
All right, that was Pam Bondi, Riley Gaines, who has been probably the voice of this movement to stop Democrats from championing the right of men to play in women's sports.
Riley Gaines saying Democrats supporting trans and women's sports is a misogynistic betrayal.
Here's what she said at the same DOJ pressure.
I'm sure you guys saw the clips and the visuals that surfaced following President Trump's executive order signing of this EO barring men from participating in women's sports within any educational program that receives federal funding.
And it was the most amazing thing to be there.
And you have all of these young girls.
I'm talking five, six, seven, eight years old.
They've got their jerseys on, their sports uniforms, their big bows in their hair that they wear on the soccer field.
That visual means more to me than I could possibly put into words.
And that is what is at stake here.
That is who Governor Mills is fighting, not Donald Trump.
It's those little girls.
And I believe that's sick.
It's regressive is what it is.
They do this under the guise of progress, indicating we are moving in the positive forward direction.
No, what Governor Mills is doing, and again, Democratic governors across the nation, is deeply regressive and utterly misogynistic.
Now, this all in response to Maine officials now having filed a lawsuit against the Department of Agriculture of all places on Monday following the agency's decision to freeze funding to the state for its refusal to reverse their transgender athlete participation policy in schools.
You might recall President Trump in the same room with the governor of Maine warning that I'll see you in court.
Here's how that went down.
The NCAA has complied immediately, by the way.
That's good.
But I understand Maine, is Maine here, the governor of Maine?
Are you not going to comply with it?
I'm complying with state and federal law.
Well, we are the federal law.
Well, you better do it.
You better do it because you're not going to get any federal funding at all if you don't.
And by the way, your population, even though it's liberal, although I did very well there, your population doesn't want men playing in women's sports.
So you better comply because otherwise you're not getting any federal funding.
I'll see you in court.
Every state, good, I'll see you in court.
I look forward to that.
That should be a real easy one.
And enjoy your life after, Governor, because I don't think you'll be in elected politics.
Ouch, ouch, ouch.
Anyway, joining us now to update us on this situation is May Mailman, deputy assistant to the president, senior policy strategist.
May, welcome to the program.
Thanks for being with us.
All right, so we saw Pam Bondi.
We heard from Riley Gaines.
You see what the state of Maine is doing.
What are the next steps?
Well, this is actually pretty advanced as far as next steps because we gave Maine every opportunity.
Both the Department of Health and Human Services and the Department of Education both did investigations.
Obviously, their violations of Title IX were pretty obvious, but we still went through that.
We sat down with them.
We asked them to change their behavior, and they refused.
I mean, they really wanted to violate the rights of women.
And so now with this complaint starts the legal process where we are asking for a few things.
One, stop doing this.
Stop making women compete with men in women's sports.
You can offer co-ed.
You can do all sorts of things.
You can make the men be nicer and have them be more inclusive, but you can't subject women to this sort of unequal treatment.
Two, we want the trophies back.
We want the right winners to be named.
So if it is the female categories, those are female winners.
And then three, it's damages.
But not only that, if you are found guilty of a Title IX violation, then you don't get federal funds.
It's as simple as that.
You want to take the money, then you have to not discriminate against women.
You can't discriminate on the basis of sex.
So they are free to not take the money if that's what they would like to do.
And then Title IX will have nothing to say about that.
But if you want to take the money, then it's a very, very simple request, which is don't treat women and girls unequally.
Well, I think it's a no-brainer.
Let's talk about the court system because you can start at a lower level court.
We've been watching the left and the radical left basically go judge shopping in the hopes of getting some type of benefit for them starting out.
Then we find out either on appeals or maybe appellate court judges or the Supreme Court that those decisions have been going in favor of the administration.
Do you expect the same thing to unfold here?
Yeah, so because this law is so clear, it says that, and there's a regulation that says that if you provide sports, you have to do it on equal terms.
And if you're making women compete with men, then obviously women do not have equal opportunity.
So I do think there's a pretty good chance just straight up in the district court that we will win this.
But the reason that, you know, even if we don't, I think that there's a really good chance in higher courts, including the Supreme Court, is that Biden basically laid out this test case for us where Biden said Title IX means that men have to play women's sports.
He outlaws women's sports.
And 26 states challenged that law alongside a lot of independent groups.
And this went all the way up to the Supreme Court on an early posture.
And 9-0, even the liberal justices, agreed that Biden's interpretation was very unlikely.
And so they allowed that injunction to stand in those 26 states.
So we have an early indication, 9-0 from the Supreme Court, that they know that Title IX is a sex protective statute and not a gender identity one.
So even if this takes a little bit of time, I think that this is a good case.
I think this really does need to be cleaned up by the Supreme Court.
So we are happy to litigate this all the way to the Supreme Court.
No, I agree.
And we've been watching a lot of this unfold.
What do you make of Havid and all of these Ivy League institutions?
Now the administration is going to probably cut off any funding.
And they've even talked about now places like Harvard that have said they're not going to comply with the president's DEI executive order that now the White House is saying, well, maybe they should lose their tax exempt status.
What is the legal standing on that?
Yeah, so Harvard, for whatever reason, has decided that it wants to pick this fight with the administration, even though we want no fight with Harvard.
If Harvard just wants to not take the federal money and they...
Well, I actually do want to fight with Harvard because I'm sick and tired.
Why should any American that works so hard for a living, why should every personal assistant or nurse or construction worker or the people, the fishermen in this country, why should they be funding elite institutions when, in fact, that's not their opportunity?
And especially when they have over a $50 billion endowment, and I would imagine they could afford to give every kid a scholarship if they weren't so cheap with their own money.
Exactly.
So I went to Harvard Law School and I had to take out Susanna.
Sorry to hear that.
I'm only teasing.
And so, and this is, you know, you spend years and years paying it off, including the federal government has loans, and a lot of kids don't pay it off.
And so the taxpayers end up paying it twice.
And so, you know, Harvard is free.
If they want to discriminate, if they want to be as crazy as they want to be, then don't take billions of taxpayer dollars.
And Harvard can afford to do it.
But if you want to take the money, and Harvard has treated this like, how dare you invade my institution?
Nobody has invaded your institution.
You asked for money.
You wanted this money, and you made some promises when you took the money to comply with federal law.
One, you're not going to discriminate on the basis of race or national origin, which you clearly do, which a court found that you did.
And two, that you're not going to discriminate on the basis of sex.
And I would be shocked if Harvard had female dorms that were all female, right?
Like the policies at these universities are insane.
Well, the ironic part is these universities are all woke and have all these harassment discrimination policies in place.
You can't discriminate based on race and sex and orientation.
You can't discriminate or make people feel uncomfortable.
And you better use the proper pronoun.
But it's perfectly okay as we saw Elise the Fonic tear just rip apart all these presidents of these elite institutions apart because their hypocrisy reeks, but it's okay.
You know, on Columbia University's campus, when kids were asking, are you a Zionist or not?
And if they were a Zionist or if they were Jewish or Israeli, they weren't even allowed to walk past their encampment that they took over on the college campus.
Exactly.
And so Harvard has so much to lose here.
Yes, it's the money, but they get a lot of benefits over having a positive relationship with the federal government.
And they're throwing that all in jeopardy.
And you know what?
At the end of the day, fine, you want to try and make it on your own and use your own endowment and not have any perks from the federal government, not have taxpayers, not have moms have to take out a second job and not see their own kids so that Harvard can have a few extra billion dollars, then that's Harvard's choice.
But this is no federal takeover.
This is Harvard's choice.
And they still have the opportunity to choose the right thing.
All right, we really appreciate your time.
Mary Melman, thank you so much for being with us.
I hope you'll come back again.
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Let us say hi to Bruce in California, the United Socialist Utopia of California.
What's up, Bruce?
How are you?
Glad you called.
Hey, Sean, thanks for taking the call.
I'm calling you on the topic of conversation from yesterday with the Democrat senator going to El Salvador to try and sanction this criminal.
And I got to tell you, man, I am just appalled that the Democrat Party would partner to get a terrorist out of prison in a foreign country to bring them back to American soil where we have so many problems in this country that this is what they concentrate on.
They concentrate on the negative.
They don't want to do anything for the American people.
They want to do everything for the opposite.
So we should just call them the opposite party.
Well, this is insane.
And this Chris Von Holland, who's looking for all this publicity and acting like a jackass, and frankly, he had to leave.
He wouldn't even get a phone call with the guy that he's talking about.
I've gone through this in great detail and specificity.
And I'll do it again if you want, but this is not an American citizen.
If I hear one more time, as we played in the first hour today, a Marylander.
He's a Marylander.
He's not a Marylander.
No, he's not a Marylander.
No, not at all.
I mean, you know, you want to talk about the face of hypocrisy and the phoniness of the Democratic Party?
Why didn't this guy pick up a phone and call the mother of Rachel Morin, who is a mother of five that was brutally raped, brutally murdered by this illegal immigrant from El Salvador on a Maryland hiking trail?
He couldn't find the time to do it, nor could Joe, nor could Kamala, nor could Alejandro Mayorkas.
He couldn't find it either.
Or when 20-year-old Maryland woman, Kayla Hamilton, was raped and murdered in her own Maryland home by another illegal from El Salvador.
Chris Holland did nothing.
And I'm just sick and tired of hearing, oh, he's a Marylander.
Marylander, Marylander.
No, he's an El Salvadorian.
That would be the more accurate description.
And not one judge, but two judges said, in fact, confirmed that he was a gang member.
And, you know, MS-13.
What else do you want to know?
And this guy's rushing before every microphone that he possibly can.
He's not a Maryland man at all.
He's not an American.
He's not this guy's constituent.
He was not in our country legally.
He had no right to be here.
And Rachel Morin and Kayla Hamilton should be alive today, except for weak, pathetic jackasses and publicity seekers like Chris Van Holland, who is trying to exploit a situation, manipulate and lie to the American people, just like they lied for four years and said the border's closed and the border's secure.
And that was a big fat lie too.
And as far as I'm concerned, all of them have blood on their hands.
All of them.
They're responsible for this.
And when you saw her mother in the Oval Office with the president, you saw her heart was on her sleeve.
It was horrible.
The poor one.
It's terrible.
I had her on the show two nights ago.
Oh, I know.
Horrible.
It was horrible.
And they never picked up a phone and called Patty Morin, Rachel's mother.
They never called Alexis Nungari, Jocelyn Nungari's mother.
They never called the family of Lake and Riley.
Now, I've spoken to all three of those families and others that have lost loved ones.
The number of rapes, murders, and other violent crimes committed against Americans, it is now in the thousands.
And every one of them I place on those people for doing what they did.
And it was done by design.
It's pretty disgusting.
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Say hi to Doug and Maryland.
Doug, hi, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hi, Sean.
I just want to make a comment, and I have a question for you.
Van Holland has a nickname down here, and it's Van Holland Wiggles.
Wait a minute, let me guess.
Jackass, idiot, stupid, moron?
Which one?
Wiggles worthless, because he's always wiggling himself into the spotlight and wiggling out with him.
I like that.
That'll work.
Wiggles worthless works.
My question is, if let's say he's able to free this person, the illegal, can he be charged with smuggling and or treason since they're on the watch list?
He's not going to be.
No, I don't think he's going to be successful.
I'll tell you why, because the president of El Salvador, I don't see any chance in hell that he's going to let this guy go.
Not going to happen on his watch.
This is an El Salvadorian.
I mean, I keep going back to the fundamentals and the basics here.
He is not a Maryland man.
He's not an American.
He's not a constituent of Van Holland.
He's not in the country legally.
He has no right to be here.
And if not one, but two courts designate this guy part of what is now designated as a terrorist organization, MS-13, the president had not only a right, he had a duty and an obligation.
It's get him the hell out of here.
And if Van Holland is somehow, you know, if Wiggle, what do you call him?
Wiggles worthless.
Wiggle worthless.
If Wiggles worthless is somehow successful, I suggest that the guy live with him, live right inside his house.
And let's see how impressed he is with his great work.
I don't think I want a guy that two judges said was an MS-13 gang member, now designated a terror organization.
I don't think I want him living with me.
You want him living with you?
He's a wife beater.
By her own admission.
Well, why is the wife then advocating?
That's true.
She not only filed once, she filed twice.
Pam Bondi was on last night and said he punched her and beat her.
With his shoe.
With a shoe.
With a shoe.
Gave her a black eye.
He used a baseball bat on me one day.
I'll never forget that day.
I did?
No.
And no, but in all seriousness, I mean, I don't understand how a woman that was beaten and twice reported this guy.
It's called battered wife syndrome.
It does have a syndrome.
And she's now fighting for this guy.
I don't understand it.
And why didn't your senator, Mr. Wiggles, why didn't Mr. Wiggles get involved and even pick up a phone and call Patty Morin, the mother of Rachel Morin?
Why didn't he pick up a phone and call Kayla Hamilton's family?
What is too much effort, time, too much work?
I mean, this guy is screwed up in the head.
I'm watching the obsession.
He's like Chuck Schumer.
Don't ever get between a camera and Chuck Schumer.
God help you.
Anyway, I appreciate the call.
Back to our busy phones.
Let's say hi, George in Florida, my free state.
George, I will be back tomorrow.
I hope you miss me.
I will, Jeff.
Yeah, I sure do.
It's 85 degrees down here, though, so I'd rather have it a little bit cooler right now in April.
I'll be honest, I like 85 degrees.
Oh, God.
I'll take 85 degrees.
Nice ocean breeze any day of the week.
That pasty Irish skin?
What are you so proud of?
No, if I walk outside, I have long pants and a long sleeve shirt on and a hat.
I'm not saying I'm getting sunburned.
I'm like, what is going on?
But I love my workouts.
I have my workout, which I kept, I built my dojo in my garage, and I work out in the garage, and I sweat like crazy.
I love those workouts.
You wearing Hawaiian shirts now?
No, I don't wear it.
No.
All right, stop.
No, God.
Colored Hawaiian.
Anyway, continue, George.
Sorry.
Yeah.
I'm sitting out here underneath a tree right now.
My Irish mom is sitting in the house because she doesn't want to.
So wait a minute.
So you're off work today?
Yeah, yeah.
I'm off work.
Yeah, I work.
Actually, I work.
I work part-time right now.
So I'm actually semi-retired.
So I got work nine days off.
Well, maybe in the next break, you can go inside, make yourself a little cocktail, and go back outside, hang out under the tree, and listen to the rest of the show.
I think that'd be the perfect day.
And then have one more cocktail.
Watch Hannity tonight at nine.
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in studio.
It'll be fun.
Oh, yeah.
We got the 9 o'clock hour at E-Pegged with my mom and I, my wife.
So the reason why I called, I wanted to ask you with all the stuff going on in the news.
I'm going to ask you the same question I asked Rush Limbaugh back in 2017.
Do you think the mainstream legacy media will ever change, Sean?
Do you think that ever changed?
You know, by the way, we miss Rush.
We miss his voice.
We miss his incredible intuitive insights and wisdom every day and that booming voice of his Sean Hannity is up next.
But do I think a lot has changed since he passed away.
And what has changed?
And look, you get to fire me anytime you want.
If you don't watch my show, you don't listen to my radio show, I won't have a job because I won't have an audience.
The only network that is thriving is Fox.
The only shows that are thriving are shows like this.
We're now over 750 radio stations, and we're on a series XM, and we podcast the audio to the show.
So when you look at the total numbers, the only shows that are successful that are ones that offer news, information, and opinion, and a little entertainment that you're not going to get anywhere else.
And one other important component and ingredient.
We tell you the truth.
I've gone through a laundry list of cases where we've been right.
They've been wrong.
It goes all the way back in my career.
I was right about Richard Jewell.
We were right about Ferguson, Missouri.
We were right about Duke La Crosse.
We were right about UVA.
We were right about George Zimmerman.
We were right about the Russia hoax.
We were right about Pfizer abuse.
We were right about the only ones vetting Kamala Harris, vetting Barack Obama, Obama's radical associations.
You know, we played Kamala in her own voice, Tim Walz in his own voice.
So that's not stuff that they do.
So the answer to your question is they're done.
They have lied too many times, and there's too many alternatives available for people now.
And we're no longer, you know, they had a monopoly.
The monopoly's broken.
It's over.
Now, if you want to be successful, you better tell your audience truth and you better give them news, information, opinion that they're not going to get elsewhere.
That, I think, is the single reason why we have been successful and so many others have tried to come after us and they've failed.
The number of people that have been up against me in cable over the years is just too many to count.
And now we beat often on a lot of nights, we'll beat ABC, NBC, and CBS.
We'll be the number one show in all of television, not just cable.
It's crazy.
So I think that's a very different environment.
So I'm sure that was a different answer than Rush gave you, right?
Yeah, well, he said, like you said, before the legacy media had a monopoly on the news.
And what that did, it gave them the opportunity to report what they wanted to and want to ignore.
And then when you and Rush came along, they became a full-fledged alternate media.
And what that did is it made people who were not being fairly represented by the news realize that, hey, there are people who think like me and stuff.
And that gave us a voice and gave us a power.
And that's why it's, you know, really important right now during this time is to continue to have other voices out there.
And what we need to do, Sean, is just abandon.
We need to abandon the legacy of mainstream.
Let me tell you something.
Here's a little secret.
People have abandoned them.
I see their numbers.
They used to get five times the numbers they're getting today.
They'd have no audience, no influence.
And we saw that on November 5th because they threw everything they had at Donald Trump and they lost.
They got their asses kicked.
And I'll add one thing.
You got to give props to Rush.
He paved the way for all of us that followed.
And he had to forge the path.
And he took a lot of heat for doing it.
They wanted to destroy him from day one.
Anyway, I do appreciate your call, my friend.
You hold down the fort while I'm here in the swamp.
I'll be back.
I'll take a quick shower as soon as I arrive home.
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Alabama, let's say hi to Robert.
Robert, you're on the Sean Hannity show.
Hey, Sean.
What's going on?
It takes forever to get through to you.
Well, glad you made it.
How you doing?
I'm doing all right.
I've listened to you all the way back to Hannity and Combs days.
I appreciate it.
What part of Alabama are you in?
South Alabama.
Place called Andalusia.
I know where Andalusia is.
I was in Huntsville, Alabama, actually Athens, Alabama, but the Huntsville Metro.
And I was a local radio host for two years of my life.
Loved it there.
Yeah.
My question is, and now that I've been listening, there's a plethora of other topics I'd like to talk to, but I know I've only got a couple of minutes.
I want to know what you think and what you know about the Chinese president going on his little Asian tour and speaking to all these other countries.
Obviously, he's trying to go behind the United States back and try to undercut our deal or whatever.
But what do you know about that and those conversations, if anything?
I know that China has taken a very aggressive posture.
And we went into great specificity and detail on this show yesterday.
I won't repeat myself.
And they've ratcheted up a tariff war with the United States.
And on the other hand, you have 130 other countries that want to come to trade and tariff agreements with the U.S. There are 15 solid deals on the table.
I believe, is it Japan today?
I think Japan is now negotiating with the U.S. today.
My expectation is that in fairly short order, pretty quickly, we're going to get deal after deal after deal after deal after deal.
And 40, 50, 60 years worth of America being ripped off and abused is going to come to an end.
And I think it will be beneficial for our country, for American workers, for our economy, that the president took this stand as it relates to China.
I think at some point down the road, they're going to realize that they're going to want access to our markets.
And more countries, I promise you, will side with us than side with China.
Oh, I believe that.
I believe that.
We've become dependent on China.
They make everything.
I'm sure we can get products elsewhere.
We don't have to deal with China.
Well, I totally agree.
I think the more that we can be independent of anything, any vital, anything that is vital to our economy, our national security, and our health, I believe needs to be made in the U.S.
And to watch even foreign automotive manufacturers now wanting to expand facilities in the U.S., I think is a sign that Donald Trump's threat of a tariff and reciprocal tariffs has worked.
The $8 trillion in committed investment over the next four years is evidence it's working.
And I think it's in America's best long-term interest to get this thing resolved and get rid of the institutionalized thinking that has guided Washington for far too long.
I appreciate the call.
God bless you.
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