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	If you want to be a part of the program, we have focused a lot of our attention on the president and deporting illegal immigrants and securing the border and and his efforts to get Congress now to get rid of the Biden Harris uh budget and get get a budget in place that is going to be more sensible.
	We've focused so much on doge and and waste fraud and uh and abuse.
	But now the president also is turning his attention in major ways to international issues, things that he campaigned heavily on, and that is ending war in Europe and ending war in the Middle East.
	We saw the the utter barbarity on display.
	Um one of the saddest things I've ever saw, and uh the sickening, disgusting, repulsive spectacle uh of this handover yesterday of the remains of two toddlers, their mother and another hostage.
	Uh and and the actions of Hamas, you know, no dignified transfer of the remains of innocent people just slaughtered for no good reason at all.
	Uh they staged this twisted parade of coffins in a cemetery before the crowd cheering, you know, of cheering civilians.
	You know, and and this is why Gaza will be demilitarized by the end of this.
	Prime Minister Netanyahu in this case he's gonna settle the score.
	It's coming.
	You know, we're outraged that these Hamas monsters, the voice of our dead one, uh dead ones, blood cries out to us from the ground.
	It requires us to settle accounts with the depraved murderers, and we will settle the score with them.
	Then he quoted Psalm 94, oh God of vengeance, oh Lord, oh God, show vengeance.
	And the Israeli defense minister echoed that outrage, said that Hamas will pay for what they have done.
	Hamas abducted, Hamas murdered, Hamas will be destroyed.
	Um, but there's gotta be a resolution, and it's gotta be permanent.
	Now, the Ukraine situation is also gotten way out of control.
	And I'm gonna be honest, you know, yes, Putin is a murdering dictator thug.
	Uh I've never said anything different.
	Uh he had his territorial ambitions and he starts building up troops along the border.
	It's gonna be what, the three-year anniversary, I believe, in on Monday.
	Now, part of the negotiations have been, okay, well, the U.S. spent nearly 200 billion plus dollars uh, you know, because of Joe Biden just handing money over left and right, and it became a proxy war between the U.S. and and Russia.
	And it could all could have been both these conflicts, I believe, would have been stopped.
	And uh, and one of the questions that came up that that President Trump said that they agreed to was his mineral deal that would pay back the American taxpayers all the hundreds of billions of dollars that they gave for this conflict.
	Zelensky apparently, according to Trump, agreed uh at the time that they had a deal and now has pulled back on it.
	That's where some of this hostilities is coming from.
	Anyway, it's a bit of a complicated mess.
	Rebecca Kaufler is with us.
	She's with the strategic military intelligence uh and analyst and wrote the book, Putin's Playbook, and served as a senior official in the Defense Intelligence Agency and work with the CIA's National Clandestine Services, and Cliff May is the founder and president of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies.
	Welcome both of you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Sean.
	Uh, neither one is an easy fix, but I think both in both cases, I think there is a way to thread a needle.
	I don't have all the answers, Rebecca, but I would imagine in Europe it's gonna be exactly what I said, and that's gonna be no NATO, number one, number two.
	Uh there's probably gonna be some mineral deal with America that would probably result in some defense agreement and and likely, you know, the Donbass region, I would imagine would be Russia's.
	Absolutely.
	Uh this is the only solution, uh Sean.
	President Trump is doing the right thing.
	There was absolutely no path for victory from Ukraine from the very beginning.
	It was mathematically impossible, and I was talking about it for three years.
	Why is that?
	Is it's because from the combat uh potential standpoint, which is calculated as a combination of weapons systems, military forces, the ability of the multi-industrial complex to uh scale up to produce the necessary amount of armaments to win the war and defense economics.
	Russia outweighs Ukraine massively, and they also have three times more people to throw into Putin's mead grinder.
	And Europeans never wanted to provide for their own security, so this is why they decided to throw Ukraine and Ukrainians as human shields to protect themselves from Putin.
	Well, President Trump wants to stop the killing of Ukrainians.
	He wants to stop the bloodshed, and he wants to stop the bleeding of U.S. cash and our own armaments because we have depleted our weapons arsenal by giving it to Ukraine to dangerous levels.
	It's gonna take from five to eighteen years, depending on weapon system to replenish it.
	And that's the only solution is to bring peace to Ukraine, and President Trump is the only one who is capable of doing it.
	I agree with him 100%.
	Cliff, what's your take?
	Look, my take i i is the following.
	I would love to see Putin, who, as you suggested, is an is an outlaw, is a war criminal, is a thug, uh, is an aggressor trying to restore the Russian Empire by pulling uh Ukraine back into it, who took two provinces from Georgia, who's made a vassal state out of Belarus.
	I'd love to see him defeated.
	It's not in the cards, I understand that.
	I wrote a column earlier this week for the Washington Times, and I said, What is possible?
	This is before the spat between Zelensky and and Trump.
	And I said, look, there are goals that President Trump has set out, and they're good ones, and they're very simple.
	Just here's what would happen is that you would end Russia's war against Ukraine.
	You would establish an economic partnership between Ukraine and the US.
	And that would be based on an untapped natural resource, rare earths, and you'd help Ukraine build the deterrent capacity it lacked three years ago.
	And uh that would that would be a reasonable outcome.
	By the way, if Ukraine is sending rare earths to the US, that means Ukraine is not under the jackboot of the Russians and sending rare earths to China.
	That's a good outcome.
	Is it the best outcome?
	No, but it's a good outcome.
	Well, it's the only outcome based on the mess that he that that Donald Trump inherited here.
	I mean, now there's the little little signs that we're seeing here.
	The US, I don't know, maybe maybe just accidental timing.
	I don't think anything's accidental, but uh our military successfully launched an unarmed ICBM uh Vandenberg space uh force base out in California, about 150 miles from Los Angeles.
	Uh I don't think that was an accident.
	I don't think it was an accident, Rebecca, the bunker buster bombs arrived in Israel since Donald Trump has become president.
	Uh I think that's a wink and a nod that once this once these hostages and these bodies are recovered, I think the handcuffs are off, and I think I think there's gonna be hell to pay for Hamas, Hezbollah, and for Iran.
	President what President Trump is doing right now, he is signaling that our strategic deterrence uh doctrine is at play here.
	The reason why Putin invaded Ukraine in the first place is because he knew that he boxed us in with that nuclear escalade to de-escalate and uh President Biden was not capable Of providing the right amount of weaponry to Ukraine in order to win the war because Putin threatened uh tactical nukes.
	While President Trump likes to win the right way, the odds of the deal for President Trump is to win without fighting.
	How do you do that?
	Uh the ancient Chinese military strategist San Zhu uh wrote in his seminal treaty the art of war is to win 100 victories in 100 battles is not the supreme excellence.
	The supreme excellence is to subdue the enemy to break his resistance without fighting.
	President Trump does not want to fight the stupidest way.
	He wants to fight the right way, and by telegraphing that we have to the capability, whether it's ICBM or whether it's building the ballistic muscle defense shield over the United States that, by the way, right now doesn't fully protect the U.S. He is signaling to the adversary.
	Not only we are protecting ourselves and our allies 100%, we also are capable of inflicting the incalculable damage on you, whether it's the Ayatollahs, whether it's the rocket man or Hamas.
	Um they understand when Trump says something, he means business.
	But words don't count by themselves.
	So that's why when when Biden called Putin a kill or this and that, Putin knew that uh that Biden does not have the cojones and we didn't have the actual fully operational piece of bullet to fight a nuclear war with Russia.
	Well, that is all gonna change because Trump is gonna back up his words with full combat capability that if the German fails, we can fight and actually win this war.
	What's your take, Cliff?
	Couple of things.
	One is it's important to remember that Putin is right now in a no-limits partnership with Xi Jinping in Beijing, and he has a military economic relationship as well with the jihadis in Tehran, with Tehran's uh sending uh various drones and missiles uh to Russia to use against the Ukrainians.
	Uh Putin also has a relationship that's very close, getting ever closer with uh with Kim Jong-un in North Korea.
	Kim Jong-un's been sending munitions and sending Korean soldiers known mostly to die as cannon fodder uh in Kursk, which is a region of Russia where the Ukrainians have invaded and taken over so they can trade it later.
	Uh, this is a kind of axis of aggressors.
	Uh, there are those who think, oh, we can make Putin into our friend.
	Let's do another reset of our relationship the way Obama did.
	I think that's total total fiction.
	So the way this works out is that you can think of South Korea after the Korean War.
	South Korea is chronically threatened by North Korea, but not imminently threatened because it's an ally of the United States.
	Or another example is Finland.
	In 1939, the Soviet Union tried to invaded Finland, tried to uh to pull it into the Soviet Empire.
	The Finns were very courageous like the Ukrainians are.
	They fought how did it end?
	They lost 11% of their territory, but they retained their independence.
	And guess what?
	Two years ago, they joined NATO.
	Yeah, they really didn't.
	Quick break will come back talking more about how we can have peace in Europe in the Middle East with Rebecca Koffler and Cliff May.
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	All right, we continue now talking about the possibilities of peace in Europe and the Middle East with Rebecca Koffler and Cliff May.
	I'll give you the last word, Rebecca.
	Well, I think President Trump is going to uh resolve the situation with the access that Cliff correctly uh pointed out, the evil access of Russia, China, Iran, and uh North Korea.
	How is that?
	The Russians and the Chinese are actually not strategic partners the way that they are trying to present it to the world.
	They're actually uh opponents and even adversaries.
	Uh the chief of Russian general staff in 2009, the previous one, uh Makata actually stated the quiet part out loud.
	The Russians never say publicly, but we know this from from our intelligence analysis.
	So Makarov said that uh China is actually Russian security threat number two following the United States and Mayo.
	And why is that?
	It's because they have Russian China and an extremely long border in the Far East, and the Chinese have been uh incrementally encroaching upon that border by economically trying to integrate that part into China, and then the uh the Russian uh the Chinese uh marrying the Russians into marrying.
	So uh this is why exactly Putin developed that tactical nuclear capability is to deter China.
	Well, President Trump is going to split up that alliance, and the Chinese are already bothered by uh the recent phone call that President Trump held with uh Putin.
	Why is that because they're sensing that uh Trump is actually onto them.
	And there's a reason also why Trump held the first meeting uh in Riyadh, you know, between the the Russian team and the American team just kicked out the negotiations on Ukraine because he wants to unleash the energy dominance that actually uh, you know, when when Biden canceled Keystone, right?
	He inadvertently, or maybe purposefully, I don't know, uh, finance Putin's war machine because the r the supply of oil dropped and the uh Putin's revenues, uh energy revenue is jacked up.
	So Trump wants to change all that.
	He wants to have Saudis on our side.
	So Trump is actually playing a multidimensional chess game.
	And Putin understands that, and he is actually frightened by that.
	So slowly but truly, Trump is gonna dismantle, just like he's dismantling the deep state here in America, he's gonna dismantle that axis of evil of Russia, China, Rocketman, and uh the Ayatollah.
	Uh uh, we could talk forever, but it's certainly, you know, worthwhile if we can get this done, and it's gonna be better for the world.
	And we've gotta we gotta think out of the box.
	And just like with Congress, they're not gonna get everything they want.
	Rebecca Kaufler, thank you, Cliff May, thank you.
	We appreciate both of you.
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	So the radicalism and the insanity of the left continues.
	I played this earlier in the week.
	Let me play it again.
	It's Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett.
	And oh, she's against giving Doge savings back to Americans at $5,000 is nothing.
	And I'm sitting there thinking, well, from four years ago, Americans are paying on average twelve to thirteen thousand dollars more for the same items.
	When you include energy and as well.
	And it's like, what are you talking about?
	55% of the country, if they if if they have a $1,000 unexpent expected emergency expense, they're in trouble.
	That just came out a couple of weeks ago.
	I mean, that is that that's a dire economic condition.
	I know what it's like.
	I've been there.
	It's not fun.
	And this is but this is the modern extreme radical left-wing mindset.
	Listen.
	Now, President Trump says he likes the idea of giving some of the savings from Doge back to Americans as kind of a dividend.
	Would you support that?
	Listen, he's just ti telling a lie.
	Right now, what they're going to do is say, hey, we want to give you a refund, but Congress won't let us because they already know that there's just no money for that.
	So no, we are not in the business of giving out money.
	And honestly, I don't know what $5,000 will do for you if you are unable to find a job, because I am telling people we are headed towards a recession.
	What were you telling people during the Harris Biden years?
	What were you telling them then?
	Um anyway, it's pretty unbelievable.
	Now, she said other dumb things this week.
	Let's go to her actually claiming people who typically vote Republican or less educated and don't want to read and enlighten themselves on the facts.
	Um let me let me let me let me t let me tell you something.
	This is outrageous.
	Because this is like Tom Hanks on Saturday Night Live in that 50th anniversary show.
	Oh, on the Trump supporter, and I'm not gonna shake an African American's hand.
	I mean, that's what they think of us.
	That's not who we are.
	And they want to create caricatures.
	But they really, you know, she's she's out there claiming that you know people who typically vote Republican aren't very smart.
	Listen.
	When you look at who's voting for who, the less educated folk, and when I say educated, I'm not even talking about formal education.
	I'm talking about people that literally don't want to read and enlighten themselves on facts.
	Those are the people that typically vote for the Republicans, and it's one of the reasons that we have to stop writing in theses as Democrats, right?
	Like we want to give you every single little detail that we can find so that you can have all the information, but the reality is that the average person that is going out there and voting, they're not paying attention to that.
	Yeah.
	This is what happened on Saturday Night Live with Tom Hanks.
	If more folks went to church, we wouldn't be in this mess we're in now.
	You know what I agree with you, Doug.
	I'd like to shake your hand, sir.
	Here we go.
	Oh no, no.
	Oh no, no, it's just it's just a handshake.
	Yeah, all right.
	You welcome it back, Jimmy.
	Oh, well, all right.
	Well, uh, thank you.
	My brother uh maybe I'll start a show for you to come on and we'll call it what Jeopardy.
	No, we don't need it.
	We don't need it.
	Oh, okay.
	I got it.
	Here's more Jasmine Crockett.
	I'm rooting for Canada and Mexico.
	They're the ones streak speaking truth to power, rooting against your own country.
	Really?
	What is that?
	The fact that I'm rooting for Canada and I'm rooting for Mexico a lot is really wild.
	But they are really the ones that are speaking truth to power right now.
	They can see what it is, and they were like, We are not messing with this crazy regime from Mar a Lago and basically calling them thugs.
	That's what it is.
	But I'm like, y'all knew who he was when y'all elected him.
	So don't act surprised.
	Oh, so don't act surprised.
	All right, let's get to our busy phones.
	Long Island, New York.
	Uh, Gene is there.
	Gene, how are you?
	How's my old stomping grounds?
	Anyone there miss me?
	Hopefully, a few people.
	Yes, hi, Sean.
	Yeah, we really do.
	We miss you.
	If I was a little younger, I'll move down there also, but I'm 80, so and all my children are up here.
	Well, you know what my accountants used to say to me for years and years, and I'd look at them like we'd have an annual meeting and they'd be like, All right, whatever you do, don't die in New York.
	And I'd look at him like, what?
	Uh okay, I'll have a conversation with God.
	Let me call up God and say, God, please make it so I don't die in New York.
	Um, or as a New York resident, which I am not any longer, so it's not an issue anymore.
	But um I'll tell you, it's you you'd like the weather down in South Florida.
	Yes, I do.
	Sometimes I visit my friends at uh uh uh uh they they live in uh near Miami, so sometimes I go down there.
	But the re the reason I wanted to call you is you've been coming into my living room since the Hannity and Home days.
	We've been watching you for so many years, and you've got us and I love your shows.
	I I enjoyed uh the interview you did with Trump and Musk.
	You really humanized uh Musk.
	You know, here's a billionaire.
	How many times will you get to see a billionaire really come down to your own level and tell you what he's gonna be doing with a sincere heart?
	I mean, I I truly, truly appreciated that.
	Yeah, listen, listen, it was my pleasure.
	You give me the ability to do that.
	Thank you for your support over these many years.
	I love what I do, and it's only because of uh people like you.
	And I want that that was my goal.
	I wanted to get to know him.
	I I I am frankly disgusted that a man of such incredible accomplishment that has done so much good in his life and continues to do it is just viciously, you know, uh in this repulsive, vile way, demonized, smeared and slandered.
	And it's like that that's not who this guy is, and they don't want to tell the story of who he is, and they're not going to.
	So having had the opportunity, um, I did.
	And I uh this is why I try to make this show different than other other shows out there.
	And I I I would argue partly that's one of the reasons we've had any success is that we do things other people don't don't do, won't do.
	And if they did do it they they'd sit there arguing over who was in charge and you know, conflict, conflict, conflict, and they waste all their time and you learn nothing about who Elon Musk was.
	That w uh I did ask those questions, but that was not m my main focus of interest to be very honest personally, and nor do I think it was what the audience wanted to hear.
	I know.
	Well thank you so much.
	You know, I met you twenty years ago, close to twenty years ago at a fundraiser with Joe Felman.
	He was running for your district and I took a my wife and I, Joe and you, and I wanted to send it to you and get a signature or take a picture of it and tax it to you.
	Well we'll we'll make that happen.
	We're gonna put you on hold and they'll get the picture to me, I'll sign it and I'll do it with pleasure.
	Right now, okay.
	I have one thing for a new for a new segment for you or a new show that you would take a tour of the White House.
	I would love to see you do that with Trump in Melania.
	You know what?
	I think that's a really cool idea.
	You know what?
	I think I I I give me time.
	I know the president's really busy and uh but I think that's a really cool idea.
	I have done it in the past, but not not as exhaustively or extensively.
	He's given me a tour personally, and it's an amazing experience.
	You know, remember when the hostage got back, he said like three times, I'm gonna if you want to see the Lincoln better, it's pretty cool and it is cool.
	And uh and and just being in that old office is it's a very special place and I'm glad he's the guy that's there.
	Um I'm I'm not gonna lie, I had many sleepless nights leading into this election.
	And I am sleeping better.
	I can report.
	Um anyway, my friend, thank you.
	All right, quick break, right back and more of your calls coming up.
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	Eric is in Wisconsin.
	Hey, Eric, how are you?
	Glad you called.
	Hey Sean, thank you so much for all you're doing.
	We sure appreciate it here in Wisconsin and we tried to help out this election cycle.
	So Well, you helped out big time.
	You did.
	Pennsylvania, Georgia, North Carolina, Michigan, uh Arizona, Nevada, all of you helped.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, I just wish we could have got Tammy Baldwin out of there, but it didn't work out too well.
	So but Yeah.
	Well, you came close.
	I mean uh unfortunately, you know, you don't win every every game you play.
	Yeah, right.
	Uh but uh hey, I just uh awesome stuff that OJ is doing with the aunt Musk and we sure appreciate it on it out here as uh what kind of farmers and taxpayers and all that good stuff.
	But one thing I'm concerned about, Sean, a little bit, and I'm concerned the liberal media might run with this, is uh one of our tenants just recently got uh laid off from the USDA and he's uh disabled that multiple deployments overseas and uh yeah,
	the guy is without a job now, and I'm just afraid that uh, you know, stuff like this is gonna get out there, and I know you got a soft spot for military and police and EMF and all those guys, and just a little concerning that uh we don't let these guys uh you know fall off the uh the wagon here and and get neglected because they've done so much for our country.
	Look, I I don't I don't like to see anybody in a position where they're gonna lose their job.
	Um in the case of USAID, and and obviously your friend I'm sure is not a part of this, but there was you know, tens and tens and tens of billions of dollars just thrown down the drain and stolen from the American people and our children and grandchildren.
	It's just unfortunate he were for them.
	Um with that said, there are going to be a lot of job openings.
	A lot of people, for example, retired and took the early retirement and pay out, and then there's there's going to be jobs, hopefully created in the energy sector uh when we blow that out, which I believe the president's gonna do as quickly as possible, and other opportunities.
	You know, we all have to think of the what if if you lose your job.
	Everybody has to have that in the back of their head.
	I my entire career I assumed I'd be fired any day.
	And with you know, but but smart, innovative, hard working, people will always be in demand.
	Always.
	And it sounds like you're just that I'm describing your friend.
	And I would just urge that person, do not get discouraged.
	And I would I I don't know if he's getting the buyout or not getting the buyout, I'm not sure.
	Uh if he is, that would mean he has until October one, he's gonna we will get paid until then.
	That gives him time, and that gives him time, you know, to find uh, you know, a job that he's gonna you know thrive in and and be successful at and be happy and secure again.
	And however, if to continue to spend tens of billions of dollars on wokism, transgenderism, DEI, and the Green New Deal abroad as the country veers off into bankruptcy is is not an alternative.
	It's not an option for us.
	And he can't do this to the American taxpayer either, and he just he's just caught up in that, unfortunately for him.
	There are there are good people that are gonna be you know hurt because the the people that have done this to the country have put them in vulnerable positions.
	It's really not Donald Trump that put them in the vulnerable position.
	It's the people that wasted all this money that that put them in the vulnerable position in my mind.
	Yeah, no, I I agree.
	It's just it's tough to see, and especially for veterans that have done so much.
	We just know what but but there are there will be other opportunities that are now gonna emerge in a new economy.
	And you know, make sure that he he makes available to him that you know I would have you know go and get that government payout till October one.
	That buys him time.
	And you know what I say to people that are out of work all the time.
	I say you get up every day early in the morning, and you work the same way you would work at a job, and you your job that day is to find your next job.
	That's your work that day.
	And uh there's not anybody that I and maybe you don't get the one you want in the beginning, but I there's nobody that I know that can't find a job at least temporarily to get them over the hump, you know, pay their rent, pay their car payment, etc.
	Get the and until they get the job that they really do like and the one that that they're most suited for.
	But you have to you have to have that mindset.
	You can't just sit home and you know, maybe take a couple of days after that.
	You gotta get you gotta start working at finding work.
	And I'd recommend that, but I'm sure with his military background and discipline, he already knows that.
	I'm not telling him anything he wouldn't know.
	But yeah, I I um I definitely feel for some people that were caught up in all of this that didn't were doing nothing wrong except the jobs they were hard to do.
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