Best of HannityMarie Johnson, once a woman in jail for 21 years was given a second chance by President Trump, and has been fully pardoned. She discusses her relationship with the President and the lies being spread about him, as people attempt to create racial divisiveness. Also joining her is former Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick who now fills Michigan’s airwaves, praising the man who freed him from prison: former President Donald Trump. After the pushback from Christians everywhere following her disgusting response to two attendees at her rally, who yelled “Jesus is Lord.” Kamala’s response of ‘you’re at the wrong rally’ has been met with disbelief from Christians, of all races and backgrounds. Kamala spent time at a black church in Georgia yesterday with her “souls to the polls” effort. People are not buying it.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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If you want to be a part of the program, 15 days until an inflection point, I would argue for this country.
Uh two weeks from today, it'll be election eve in America.
I think it it's the most important tipping point election in our lifetime.
One thing that we now see as a phenomenon is that Democrats are just freaking out at every poll.
We've gone over the poll numbers earlier in the program today, uh, over demographic breakdowns and how African Americans, Hispanic Americans, are moving towards Donald Trump in larger numbers than anybody thought possible.
And a lot of people forget Donald Trump's record when it comes to minorities in America.
I've gone over the economic record more than any other the people that benefited the most for the first three years just prior to the pandemic from Donald Trump economic policies by far, and that's measured by in terms of uh income increases, uh, the reduction of poverty were African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, women in the workplace, and African American youth unemployment.
There was never a president that committed more money to historically black universities and colleges than Donald J. Trump.
There's never been a president that took seriously the issue of disparate sentencing, uh on which had been a source of discussion in this country for for decades, than Donald Trump.
And, you know, I think the scene that America probably remembers the most is our friend who will join us in a minute, Alice Marie Johnson, proud to call her a friend to this day.
And she was uh she had a one-time offense.
She had been in jail for 21 years, and she thought she would end up dying in jail, and that was the end of her life.
And rather than becoming bitter and angry, she ended up counseling young women that would go to prison and and basically help them in their lives and re help them rebuild their lives and get their priorities in order so that they'd never come back.
But not an opportunity she thought would ever come her way, but thanks to Donald Trump, it did.
Here's Kamala Harris addressing over the weekend that there's a narrative about the kind of support we're receiving from black men, and here's what she said.
Do you think some of the resistance of some men, black and white is misogynist?
And are you proud to see that most Americans, even being polled, have no problem uh supporting a woman at all.
And I'm one that lived from Shirley DeComala in terms of these campaigns.
And it's it I have uh an emotional reaction to you raising the point of Shirley Chisholm because it is on her broad shoulders that I stand, and so many of us stand, and we have come a long way to your point.
That being said, I think that um you are absolutely right that there is this narrative about what kind of support we are receiving from black men that is just not panning out in reality in terms of when I go to last night Atlanta and had I think 10,000 people at a at a rally.
Um I will also say this, Rev. I am very clear.
I must earn, earn the vote of everyone, regardless of their race or gender.
And what can be frustrating sometimes is to have journalists ask me this question as though one should assume that I would just be able to take for granted the vote of black men.
I think that's actually um an uninformed perspective.
Because why would black men be any different than any other demographic voter?
They expect that you earn their vote.
Now let's go back to her surrogate Barack Obama and lecturing African American men uh on the issue of quote the brothers not supporting Kamala Harris and suggesting that it was Misogyny and not wanting a woman elected president.
Listen.
The same kinds of energy and perhaps in all quarters of our neighborhoods at a good business we saw when I was lost.
Now I also want to say that that seems to be more pronounced with the brothers.
Part of it makes me think that, well, you just aren't feeling the idea of having a woman as president.
And you're coming up with other alternatives and other reasons for them.
So now you're thinking about sitting up or even supporting somebody who has a history of denigrating you.
Because you're saying that's a side.
Because that's what being a man is women about.
That's not exciting.
So Republicans are racist, they're a sexist, misogynistic, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic, transphobic.
They want dirty air and water, and they want to take away grandma and grandpa's social security and Medicare and throw them over a cliff.
I tell you, I told you that that would be what they're reduced to by the end of this campaign, and here we are.
Anyway, my dear friend Alice Marie Johnson is back with us.
Kwame Kilpatrick is also back with us.
He's the former Detroit mayor, uh, by the way, himself now on the Michigan Airways, and uh was freed from prison, both of them by former President Donald J. Trump.
Uh welcome uh back.
We appreciate your time.
Alice Marie, I love you.
How are you?
Uh I'm proud to say that we are friends on air and off air.
Thank you.
Um Sean, I'm happy to be on here again, and you are my dear friend, my dear beloved friend, and I'm happy to be on here and add my voice to the voice of sense.
First of all, in case your listeners didn't know this, I'm a 100% woman and black American.
And I, for one, am sick and tired of all of the gender and racial pandering that I'm hearing taking place.
You know, Sean, they speak of the first woman of color as president.
They speak of black men having a problem voting for a woman.
That is not the issue.
It's the candidate.
We don't want our first to be the worst, and that's what we'd end up with if we select Kamala Harris, the worst in history is what she would be if she's elected.
I just want to remind people of your story.
You never thought you had one time one time offender, and you got a life prison sentence.
Yeah, you had no hope.
Until Donald Trump, who actually read my story.
I was denied three times under the Obama administration.
And when Donald Trump saw my case, it wasn't the fact that it was Cam Kardashian, a celebrity.
It was the fact that he looked at me as a human being, and he had mercy and compassion upon him.
And not only did he look at myself, but he allowed me to bring other petitions of worthy candidates before him.
You've got one of those people on the phone right now, and that's Kwame Kirkpatrick.
I took his petition before President Trump, and he did not look, he look at the he looked at the man who Kwame is today.
And I'd love for Kwame to speak for himself too, because we both both of our lives were saved by President Trump.
Well, uh Kwame uh Kilpatrick, great to have you back.
We appreciate you being with us.
Remind people of your story.
You're the mayor of Detroit.
How long were you sentenced for again?
I was the mayor of Detroit, but before that I was the Democratic leader in the state legislature in Michigan.
You know, I ran for the state house at twenty-five.
I was leader by thirty.
Um I was uh, you know, the on the DLC, the DNC.
Uh I was on both of those executive boards.
I I was like a Clinton Democrat, if you will.
Uh traveled on Air Force One and around the world with Bill Clinton uh over to London and you know I was deeply involved in it.
My mother was a United States Congresswoman.
She was far to the left of me, one of those liberation Democrats, uh my hero.
Um, but but it's just a very interesting background.
Then I got to be mayor ran at 31 and 31 and was mayor for seven years.
Uh and then of uh my gift, my anointing if you will, uh Sean, it it took me to a place that my character integrity didn't grow at the same place at the same place.
And so I fell from that position, found myself in a prison sentence to 28 years.
I had 34 counts.
When I hear that 34 over and over about the president, it's like a wicked reminder to me of what the system can do when they have you in their grips.
And so I end up being charged and then being convicted and went on that sentence.
And then seven years, about 39 days short from eight years in prison, I was sitting in a solitary confinement cell for about 200 and some days.
And the warden came to the door and said, we're going to get you out.
of here quick and quiet.
You received a commutation from the president.
It's true.
Uh I hit the floor, thank God and got up and walked out the front door and since that time I've been looking for Donald Trump.
I gotta find I have to find I'd never met Donald Trump.
I've never had a conversation with Donald Trump and finally I did make it uh to meet with him on just a crazy circumstance of seeing one of uh his uh good friends in Detroit and uh we we had that meeting I got a chance to thank him and this is what I want people to know.
Donald Trump has never asked me to do it or say anything.
Um as a matter of fact in that meeting I learned so much about the man Donald Trump.
We w we were together all day from about ten, eleven in the morning all the way to about eleven o'clock at night we were at the golf course uh early and then Mar Lago that evening and what really floored me was how intuitive he is um the questions that he asked how he yearned for information and knowledge and so I was able to break down uh the Michigan electorate what what it is, what happened he wanted to hear about how how in one county you have a thirty thousand vote swing and I explained that to him.
Um but it was a a a a chance for me to get to know for myself the man Donald Trump and the president Donald Trump, not just the person uh who most of the media try to make him out to be on television.
Now you're broadcasting and tell me about your life now and wh and how you're a different person.
Well in in prison after being mad at everybody Sean for about a year and a half and and being floored I had at that time I had three children from my first marriage of twenty four years.
My sons were uh totally upset with me and upset with life and they dropped out of school and and and all kind of stuff happened for a time and I went to the chapel one day and and met this guy from Yukon, Oklahoma, uh Bruce Smith and I'm sure he's listening to you.
That guy loves you.
And so I had to get his name and he asked me did I have a personal relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ.
And I told him I did.
And and from that place we started to move together and and after that I started teaching Bible studies.
I did all the courses and I started preaching in the chapel so when I got out my wife and I, my new wife we founded a ministry in Georgia.
We have now moved our ministry uh to um Detroit uh just outside of Detroit uh and that's what I'm doing.
I'm speaking around the country I'm ministering on the weekends doing counseling and and different stuff.
I'm trying to be what I needed at thirty years old to uh a lot of people in this country and so um helping them understand the importance of integrity and character when you're in leadership positions whether that's political or they had the law firm the medical practice or in business and so that's what I now I have a new wife and two new kids three new kids too.
And I have a thirteen year old, a two year old and a one year old.
So I have them from twenty-eight to one Man you you're staying busy.
Quick break right back more with Alice Marie Johnson Kwame Kilpatrick both commuted pardon Donald J. Trump.
Of course the whole issue of criminal justice reform is not one that's been discussed and not one that Democrats ever want to talk about because they've done nothing on the issue.
And Donald Trump actually did quick break right back we'll continue on the other side with Alice Marie Johnson and Kwame Kilpatrick.
Remember she had a life sentence and uh Donald Trump set her free because of criminal justice reform.
Kilpatrick was facing twenty eight years in jail and and just on the eve of what would have would have been eight years in jail.
Donald Trump commuted his sentence.
Alice Marie Johnson, you stayed in touch with President Trump.
And if he gets re-elected, um, I know for a fact that he's gonna want to uh go to you and have you do what you started to do towards the end of his term, which is to find people in jail that are there that that deserve pardons, like people like yourself and and Kwame that have changed their lives around and give them a second chance.
And that's a big part of his agenda.
It never gets talked about, but it's true.
Sean, what President Trump has done, he is not a person that just has ideas.
All I've heard is ideals and dreams.
He has solid policies that he's standing on.
I'm not I'm not supporting.
I'm not endorsing him because he set me free.
I'm endorsing him because he is the best leader for this nation.
We've already had one thousand three hundred and seventy days of a puppet administration.
Of a puppet.
Alice, I'm not interrupting you because I I don't want to hear you speak.
I'm gonna get pick up this point on the other side.
I do have the constraints of time.
Uh stay right there.
We'll come back.
We'll continue.
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It was a drug offense, and amazingly, she never thought she'd get out of prison.
And now Donald Trump has in well when he was president, tapped her to to take on the role of finding people that have changed their lives around dramatically in prison that might deserve a second chance.
Also with us, former Detroit mayor, Juame Kilpatrick.
Uh he had been sentenced to twenty-eight years in jail, was on the verge of meeting his eighth anniversary and found out Donald Trump commuted his sentence.
Uh Alice Marie Johnson, so let's go back to maybe what role you might take on if Donald Trump is able to pull this election off, and I hope he is, and he wins this election.
Um from your lips from God from your lips to God's ears, let's hope.
But you've stayed in touch with President Trump, and you have had discussions with him, and I've had discussions with him about you and about what role you might play in finding those people, maybe that were sentenced unfairly, maybe that that suffered injustices at the hands of I don't know, prosecutors that were overly aggressive and unfair, or or maybe that they just changed their heart and their lives around, and you would help him in that regard.
Uh tell us what what maybe you might be doing in the future.
Well, I would be very honored, Sean, to have President Trump find these deserving individuals again.
I had the honor of sitting before him in the Oval Office, bringing cases.
In fact, he asked me to.
He said, Alice, I know there's other people who deserve their freedom like you do, who just he said, how many do you think it is?
I made this big gesture that that was too big to even name.
And he gave me the opportunity to talk to him about these people to bring their cases to him.
I sent over a hundred clemency petitions into the white house, and almost we were able to have well, actually, I was able to have almost fifty people get a second chance in life, and I want to continue that work.
I know he is a fair man.
He is one who listens, he's one who's concerned not only about the individual, but for the safety of communities.
That's uh you know, a big consideration.
He's just not opening the prison doors and saying go home.
He's carefully considering the individuals who are brought before him.
So it'll be a great honor to work in that capacity again to help President Trump.
So I'm looking forward to his second term in office.
And what what's what about you, Kwame?
Have you ever thought about maybe joining forces with Alice Marie Johnson and and being a part of that work?
Uh, I'm sure in the course of your time you spent a lot of time in prison that you probably ran into people that you thought, hey, they they were impressive in terms of their ability to change their life around, or were they unfairly.
Yeah, you know, what there are two women, the TCA Kilpatrick and Alice Johnson.
I do whatever they tell me, Sean.
So it's just one of those people.
But the other part of that is that sentiment is not only within prison walls.
Um I'm born and raised in Detroit, right in the neighborhood, and I've been doing everything I can in Detroit and throughout Michigan.
I've been speaking at a lot of different events, and whenever I'm called I go because I want people to not be um misguided by what I used to do on the Democratic side.
I ran the camp statewide campaign for the Democrats from the 90s.
I'm listening to the warmed over 1998 stuff being spoken now by the uh the VP.
Uh it's it's all DLC, DNC stuff, Clinton stuff, you know, middle class tax cuts, uh, small business loans.
I mean, this stuff has been talked about forever, and they've been hearing it forever and not receiving any benefit from any of it.
And so um I've been wanting people to understand what this is about, and and what to to the credit of President Trump, he just says it like it is, and people take him or leave him, but uh black men in particular, well, I'ma just go up be a bit beyond that.
Detroiters, all working people, people that work in plants and and and entrepreneur street entrepreneurship in terms of barbershops, beauty shops, real estate, uh, development, construction.
People like to hear straight talk, and he's been doing that, and so when I show up, my job has become a lot easier um to convince people that they need to make the extra uh just one more little energy step to vote for him, because a lot of people are already talking about sitting it out, and I'm trying to move people to the pose because I think it's very important, not just for Detroit and not just for Michigan, but for America.
You know, I I I did a speech and you said that I was on the airways, I'm on airways and and in Georgia and in Louisiana and Michigan.
Um, and what I said in that speech is I need Trump in the room.
I want him in the room when Vladimir Putin shows up.
I want him in the room when Shea from China shows up.
I want him in the room when North Korea shows up to the meeting.
And I can't imagine having the vice president being our leader, our spokesperson, our person at the table, with all the issues on the table in the room for us.
And so I asked men, especially, and all women to think about that.
You know, this is not about many.
Well, let me ask both of you then.
Why do you think that there has been a shift, at least in the polling of minorities in our country?
Why is it this this mantra every two years, four years election cycle?
And and now it's it's gone so off the rails, Kwame.
You know, Trump is he got compared to let's see, Mussolini and Hitler and Stalin all in one one in one comment.
Uh then of course is going to come after African American men and and women, which he's not going to do.
He's going to use the military against citizens and take people off the air.
He's not going to do.
And but the fear mongering happens, but it's never been this bad.
And it also tells me that they run out of arguments, and that's their whole closing argument is Donald Trump is bad, evil, horrible, Nazi fascist and a racist.
You know, uh the as as as Hollywood is gone, you know, the scary movies from the nineteen sixties like Psycho, they just weren't as scary as Freddie Kruger and Jason.
And the ones now, uh, they weren't as scary as those.
Every four years, you gotta scare people a little bit more than you did before.
And what we're seeing now is uh it's just not working.
It it's really not working.
You it works um if you're targeting the victimology of some people, but it's not working, and that's why you're seeing people um, you know, having their own thoughts in their own mind about this whole political process.
And and I think it started when we were there.
You talked about cities, you know.
I the Democrats have have all I was a Democrat engaging a Democrat the the Democratic Party, Democratic presidents never worked.
When I engage George Bush, we got a new riverfront done that we've been talking about doing for thirty years.
We got a new downtown done.
We we we let me ask you this.
Did you was Barack Obama president when you went to jail or no?
He was president while he he sent the prosecutor in there to prosecute me.
He sent he he uh okay to all of the Rico allegations, and every lawyer from California to New York, New Jersey, from Texas, all the way to Michigan and looked at my case, said this is ridiculous.
And when it got to Alice Johnson and Jerry Kushner and the president of the United States, they said this is ridiculous.
And and you know, the over sentence and the over uh you know over everything.
It's just malicious and selective prosecution, which I see the president going through himself now.
And they said this is ridiculous, and he gave me my freedom.
So I think people are tired of rhetoric.
I think they're tired of people trying to scare them.
They want to hear the straight story.
When when Donald Trump comes to town and he talks about entrepreneur opportunity, he's not trying to be black.
What he's trying to do is be Donald Trump talking to you about what I can do in my position to be able to help you get more access to business, more access to capital, and improve your tax structure so you make some money.
That's what black folk want to hear.
It's just like it's just black America versus No.
We want to hear the same thing that you're telling the no that you're saying in the suburban communities.
What you're saying to business people all over the country.
And I think Donald Trump understands that.
He's not changing the way he talks.
He's not trying to be cool.
He's being Donald Trump, and that's what's resonating around the country.
Now, when you get Trump, you're gonna get sometimes when he says something, ooh, that hurt a little bit.
But I I think that that does that hails in comparison to all of the other things that he says about doing the job that he has to do as leader of the free world as president of the United States.
And you've endorsed them.
Have you gotten any k any any negative feedback on that?
And Alice Marie, have you gotten any negative feedback?
Kwame, I'll ask you first.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, you know, I was you know, I was a big time Democrat.
I was on the DNC, so when I endorsed him, uh I got negative feedback from everybody.
Uh you know, all of those tenants.
Uh and those are forget about the people in the party.
What about everyday people?
You know, I saw President Trump with LJ in the barbershop, and I'm like, I love the conversation.
You know, because I mean kind of barbershops are known for a lot of talk, and I don't know what was like that when I grew up.
Great question, because 96% of the people in the city of Detroit on paper are Democrats.
But when I'm in the barbershop every week in the city of Detroit, what I hear is, man, you gotta do what you gotta do.
Hey, I'm leaning towards Trump too.
I'm not mad at Donald Trump.
So we're able to have a different kind of conversation away from the political ads and the political conversations where you just talk about real people to say it was better when he was president.
I want a president that actually is gonna leave.
I'm kind of nervous about what China and Russia and North Korea are doing.
I'll meet everybody at the table.
So we hear real issues in the barbershop.
You're right about that, Sean.
Well, I'm at the barbershop, but I travel a lot.
By the way, yeah, I I you're in the beauty shop where you belong.
You're you you you make us look like you know you know there's no barbershop or beauty shop that can help Kwame or me.
No question.
Well, I can tell you this.
I have people come up to me in the supermarket, in the airport, everywhere, because my face is pretty recognizable down here, and they tell me that they are voting for Trump this time.
And even even just recently, I have to tell you this little antidote.
This guy was just pushing at the airport, this big uh garbage band, just collecting the trash, and he eased up beside me, and he said, Are you gonna help him?
He said, You're gonna have him, because that's my guy.
He said, I didn't vote for him in 2020, and look at what I'm doing right now.
He started telling me about the job he lost and what he had to do now because of his company, had to lay off so many people.
So every day when it starts hitting your pocketbook, when it starts healing hitting your wallet, then you start thinking different.
People are not afraid now to say that I'm with I'm I'm voting Trump.
I've seen more Trump hats, more Trump t-shirts.
People are coming out in droves, and I think that we are going to win by a landslide, so that it will be no doubt of what the big hat that this is a big victory for for us, for us Americans.
So just say people, they talk to me, and I'm sure they talk to Kwame too.
It's not the talk you think.
Don't believe the pose, don't believe what they're saying, that uh this is a big jaw for a ride to a new to history.
Absolutely.
It's just the the tactics of calling them names like this, and it's just as as low as you can go, as far as I'm concerned, and it's why so many people hate politics to begin with.
Uh you have a heart of gold, uh, the sainthood, I think, in your future, Alice Marie Johnson, God bless you.
Uh Kwame, I'm so glad that you have rebuilt your life and and congratulations on your new family.
I wish you both God speed and success and appreciate all the time you gave me today.
We did not expect to go this long, but I just you know, I find your stories fascinating, and I I wanted people to hear from both of you.
