Uh we're talking about hashtag sh hashtag shave your head.
Or is hashtag shaved head.
And this is women empowering themselves in light of Donald Trump's election.
Now they were lied to.
They were told that IVF treatments will go away.
He will ban them.
That was a lie.
They were lied to.
He's gonna support a national abortion ban.
That is not true either.
They were lied to.
He's going to limit access to contraception.
Another big lie.
He's gonna take away grandma and grandpa's social security lie.
He supports Project 2025.
Lie.
He's a Nazi racist, fascist, Stalin, Hitler, Nazi, whatever.
We're all garbage, a lie.
And now Americans, some of them are saying, Well, I'm getting out of here.
We're responding, we're we're looking to move abroad.
Um, my attitude is if you want to leave and you don't want to be here, you know, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
That's up to you.
I believe in freedom.
You can do whatever you want.
You know, the San Francisco Chronicle publishing advice for liberals on how they should move to Canada.
I'm sure that's gonna really help their their subscriptions uh on that newspaper.
Uh then of course we have this story that we've been covering all day, which I find quite entertaining.
How liberal women are going on a sex strike because Donald Trump has won.
Then we have snowflakes on college campuses and their professors.
Uh, they are in need of a day off because of the trauma that Donald Trump won a free and fair election.
The Guardian offering therapy to staff members.
I I mean, uh, you can't make it up.
Then The Guardian of an article, how Americans are stockpiling abortion pills and hormones ahead of the reproductive apocalypse that is coming under Donald Trump.
Millions of liberal um uh women in America shaving their heads.
Uh okay, if you want to go full on Brittany Spears, uh I believe in freedom.
And all of these lies that you were told, it's what you're gonna learn at some point very shortly, is that you were completely lied to.
This was all just nothing but lies, smears, slander, it was outright besmirchment.
I mean, just frankly, it was madness.
Um anyway, let me play some of this for you.
Um, over at that hard-hitting the news show, the View, the host there clashing over who is to blame over Donald Trump winning.
Because they did everything in their power with their little tiny audience uh that might remain, you know, to do everything in their power to help elect Kamala.
Listen.
Speaks to its voters.
It it really is of joy and inclusiveness.
No, the message of not being educated, being dumb and what's wrong with America.
Who said that?
Honey just did.
What is wrong with America?
My point here is that that's not what Kamala Harris said.
No, no, no.
My point is I don't blame Joe Biden.
I don't believe Kamala Harris.
Go back as far as you want.
When they were focused on renaming schools, there were people saying, hey, students are destroying colleges.
I paid for that.
I sent them there.
They can't learn, and everyone apologized for it and didn't want to attend to it.
They also denied the border was a crisis and kept saying, no, no, no, it's fine.
This is not a There was a motor bill, though.
There wasn't a water bill.
But Joey, my point is they screamed and screamed and screened.
They didn't vote for him because he's a racist or a misogynist.
They voted because they needed help in their everyday lives.
The majority of that.
Because there's only every stat coming out on the people willing to self-reflect are showing these.
Oh, wait, they're gonna say I'm a racist and a misogynist and the exotrology.
Every racist and misogynist voted for Donald Trump.
Not everyone that voted for Donald Trump was a racist and misogynist.
I agree with that.
Everyone slept.
They swept every category, and the reason they did is to say, hey guys, no excuses this time.
Yeah.
Look, they lost everything.
There's environment to be ravaged, it's children to be shot, it's wealth to be hoarded, it's worker to be exploited, it's poor to starve, it's cops to murder the country in problem uh in trouble.
Linda, can you get me a bottle of migraine excedent, please, and uh have it sent over as soon as possible, maybe instacarted.
You got it.
Absolutely.
Extra large.
Yeah, extra large.
Uh now, Megan McCain, who will join us in a minute, uh responded to to a lot of this.
Uh, and she was talking about friends freaking out at the prospect of a Trump victory.
This was before the election.
Listen in.
Glad to have you here.
Thought thoughts on anything you want to share.
Um, my uh liberal friends are freaking out, whatever that's worth.
I don't think the 25% male vote in Georgia is helping anyone, and even the I don't have the numbers right directly in front of me, but the independent swing from Biden to Trump in Georgia is not a great signal for anyone who is uh, you know, hoping that she will win.
Um I think there's going to be a lot of dissecting to do.
I just keep thinking of Bridget Fidesi, who you had on yesterday, who uh is a friend of mine who is a woman who is very anti-Trump for a very long time and ended up voting for him because of in no small part the culture war issues, and I really hope that if he does win, there's some real soul searching on the side of Democrats just about the damage a lot of this has done to so many women and so many moms I know.
Anyway, Megan uh McCain joins us now.
She is the host of our own podcast, Citizen McCain.
Uh great to have you back, Megan.
How are you?
Hi, Sean, how are you?
I'm very happy to be here.
But I listening to clips of the view like gives me PTSD.
I like can't even listen to it because it's just so awful.
So thank you for having me on.
Well, I I I gotta imagine because I know you really well, and I've known you for a long time, and we've always had a great relationship.
And uh I've known Elizabeth uh Hasselback for a long time.
How either one of you survived that?
I have no idea.
Talk about PTSD.
If you didn't have it, I would say you were the most mentally tough human being on earth.
What was it like when you were there?
Because that show is disintegrated.
I I I if the show's gonna get canceled, by the way, it's not gonna be by Donald Trump, it's gonna be canceled because nobody's watching.
Just like these late-night comedy shows, if they're gonna be canceled, it's because nobody watches anymore.
Oh, I I completely agree.
And thank you again.
You're always been such a wonderful friend to me, and I know to Elizabeth too, for so long.
And look, I can remember a time when you used to go on the show not that long ago.
And it's really, I think tragic that a show that was built on trying to showcase women's views in a in the country and not just political views, but age views.
It's a very old show now.
I think the youngest host is 48 and the oldest is 83.
Um, I think the fact that it is a show that is no reflection of the American public or American women is a tragedy.
But I think more importantly, I was talking to a friend of mine today who um worked in the past Trump administration and will most likely work in this new Trump administration.
And we were saying that we just don't know how ABC News can have this anymore.
Just from a strict like news ethical mandate.
How do you have a relationship with the new Trump White House when there are people ostensibly feeling propaganda, not just against Trump, but against conservatives and conservative women in general.
I don't know what happens, but that I do know for a fact the ratings have completely deteriorated.
Um, not just since I've been on, but just in general, as the tolerance of America has changed.
And it's really disappointing.
You're talking about these women shaving their heads and going on sex strikes or whatever.
And I think part of the problem is they've been lied to so intensely by so many people in the media that it didn't even occur to them that Trump could win.
I was not surprised by President Trump's win because they don't consume that kind of media.
And I think you should feel bad for women like that who have been gaslit so egregiously, and honestly, the view is patient zero in this.
All right, quick break.
We'll come right back more with Megan McCain on the other side, then we'll get to your phone calls coming up on this Friday, 800-941 Sean.
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All right, we continue now with Meghan McCain as we analyze the view and their dramatic meltdown all week.
You know, I went through this last night in a pretty extensive monologue at the beginning of my show last night before I had Stephen A. Smith on, and Stephen A. Smith was voting for Kamala Harris.
He's a very dear friend, close friend of mine.
And and he had been on the view earlier that in the morning, and and he basically laid out for them what happened, but not that they could hear it.
And and here's what's deep and profound to me um as I look at this.
I said on the air in 2007 that journalism is dead in America.
And and here in 2024, I can officially declare that legacy media is dead.
All of these late-night talk show hosts, uh the ones that are supposed to be funny and that are no no longer funny, and nobody really watches them anymore.
And all the charges they made, a Russian agent, illegitimate president, all the propaganda, disinformation, three years, you know, hookers, golden showers.
I mean, a Nazi racist, white supremacist, fake impeachments.
And I'm not saying the guy's perfect.
You know, everybody has their faults, right?
We've all sinned and and fallen short of the glory of God, and and that means Donald Trump, too.
They never once talked about anything he did successfully.
They never vetted Kamala Harris either.
And the American people see this and they saw with their own eyes the borders were open.
They feel it in their own pockets and uh in their wallets and their pocketbooks every time they go shopping.
They feel that every time they fill up their car, they see the world as burning in Europe and in the Middle East, and they can't figure it out.
And I don't think anybody will ever trust them anymore.
It's trusted media is now at the lowest point ever.
Am I wrong in saying legacy media is now dead, especially when we have podcasts, social media, talk radio, Fox News, and other options.
No, I mean, not at all.
And honestly, I'm very excited about this, and I'm very happy.
Excuse me, as someone who left legacy media on my own fruition because I saw what was coming, and as I tweeted, I was in a radical progressive insane asylum.
It is not fair to the American public that these people are getting paid the kind of paychecks they are, given the platforms they are, and all they're doing, their entire job all day, is just to desecrate Republicans and conservatives and people with all American values all day long.
And the American public has said we're not listening to it, we're not watching it, and we're also not voting for your candidate.
And as a result, you see, President Trump, I mean, I think he was in no small part elected because he went on all of these podcasts and all of these alternative media places.
I mean, he went on like very deep, interesting podcasts like Theo Vaughn, not just Joe Rogan, um, uh Shane Gillis, like people that men in America in particular really listen to and really pay attention to.
And I think he was smart enough to understand that.
And quite frankly, Vice President Harris was was, I think one of the big, you know, huge errors in her candidacy was not doing that kind of media and not taking Joe Rogan up on his offer to come on his show.
But part of the reason she did that is because she's incapable of doing an interview that wasn't scripted within an inch of his life.
And, you know, we we see where it all landed.
But I for one am very happy uh legacy media is dying.
I'm happy it's over.
These people do not deserve to have the platforms and the paychecks that they do.
And it's also exciting for me that maybe we can calm some of these women down in the country about what a Trump presidency is actually gonna look like.
I've had my personal issues with President Trump, as you know better than anybody.
But I'm working right now on writing an article, making a list of all the things I'm excited about in the Trump presidency because policy-wise, America is gonna become a much better, safer, more prosperous place.
And for anyone, especially a mother of young children like me, this should really be an exciting moment for women.
And and I wish that people weren't gas lit to the degree that they are, given because of shows like the view and MSNBC and so on.
But I think this is actually an opportunity for women to maybe become enlightened, the forty-six percent or whatever that that didn't end up voting for him.
There's stockpiling abortion pills.
I mean, I I I you you just mentioned you're a mom.
I have kids.
The idea that that in California and Minnesota, right, where where these two candidates are from on the Democratic side, that they have the ability to offer to minors gender affirming care.
I mean, and a lot of that care can be permanent and can cause permanent damage.
And without any parental consent, does that not infuriate you that they just totally dismiss any parental rights?
I think that it will, when we look back on this era in American history, it will be looked back upon with repulsion and horror.
I think that issue in particular, not just, you know, quote, gender affirming care, but also the trans people in sports competing against our young girls.
I met a girl two weeks ago at an event I did with Riley Gaines and Tulsi Gabbard, who had literally a brain bleed because a trans athlete hit her in the head so hard with a volleyball that she was hospitalized.
We're talking about putting women and girls in extreme physical danger, and someone could actually end up dying over this.
So yes, I think it is one of the reasons that the left has gone just so extreme and so out of again, just like we're mainstream normal Americans are, and they don't understand when you're talking about dealing with my children, and you said can do permanent damage.
I really implore anyone to Google it.
I don't think it's appropriate to say on the radio, but just the kind of long-term damage it can do, starting with the fact that women wouldn't be able to have their children, which by the way, isn't a decision anyone is capable of making when they're 13 years old.
I think it's sick.
I think it's horrifying.
And for me, it's one of the things I am most excited about is the Trump presidency because I really do think this type of is going to stop immediately.
It's it really scares me.
Uh anyway, Megan, we appreciate it.
Uh, if you want to hear Megan's podcast, it is I assume it's everywhere where you get a podcast.
It's called Citizen McCain.
Uh, Megan, as always, we appreciate you being on the program.
Uh, you've got to be one of the more mentally tough people I've ever met, considering you dealt with uh that hard-hitting news show The View for as long as you did, but uh probably the best thing you did for your mental health in your entire life is saying goodbye.
Uh we do appreciate you being with us and sharing your views and actually having the time to express them, which I felt you never got or Elizabeth never got when they were on there.
Thank you.
You bet.
Thank you.
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Uh, you know, so last night, um, my buddy Stephen A. Smith, and we are we're friends, and we have a lot of political disagreements.
And I told him, he said it to me at one point.
He said, Kamel has got this.
Kamel's gonna win.
I said, You're wrong.
She's not gonna win.
And he looked at me.
Nobody else seemed that said that to him at that time.
I said, and we have this kind of inside joke between us.
It's like I I say Stephen.
Stephen, I stay in your lane.
You stay with sports.
Let me handle the politics part of it.
And when I talk sports with him, he tells me to stay in my lane, which is politics and and let him handle the sports, and he's really good at it.
I think there is no ESPN without Stephen A. Smith, in my own humble opinion.
And he's just a good person.
And we're really good friends.
And we have really good discussions.
And it's no holds barred.
It's it's straightforward.
If I'm on his podcast, I usually tend to dominate.
When he's on my show, I kind of give him the microphone and let him go.
And it was no really no different last night.
And unlike so many on the left, he was gracious.
He and he was gracious to me even before coming on the show last night.
Anyway, we're gonna we're gonna play that for you, and uh then we'll come up on the other side and we'll get to some of your calls 800 941 Sean.
ESPN host, he's a rock star.
He uh if there is no, as far as I'm concerned, there is no ESPN without my friend Stephen A. Smith.
I watched Sean The View today.
How are you doing?
All right, how you doing, Sean?
Congratulations on the election, the results you called it, you said it was going to happen.
Um I can't refute it.
I can't refuse the fact that the president of the United States, the president elect, is well deserving of it.
It was a romp.
It was an annihilation.
I know a lot of people are trying to, you know, labor like you know what, he won a little bit in a lot of different places.
I don't want to hear that.
It he won and he won in absolutely convincing fashion, so much so that I think that in light of those results, we have to look at this election um as a referendum on a Democratic Party in America saying, We're not feeling where you are, we're not feeling where you tried to go, we want no part of it, we're not having it, and they made their choice, and we all have to accept it.
And you were very gracious, by the way, privately, we have our own conversations, and you said that to me, and you um well, I'll live with it.
And I've I've had elections that I really wanted my side to win that they lost, and you know what, Stephen A, we uh I go on, and I plow through and and I I do my job.
Uh there was there's not gonna be retribution.
None of the hosts of the view are gonna be taken off.
I used to go on that show.
I can't they wouldn't even allow they wouldn't accept a conversation with me at this point.
Isn't that pretty pathetic?
Because I used to like Whoopi Goldberg.
Joyless Behar, uh Yeah.
I would a I would ask that you don't look at the show.
What you look at the uh what you should look at is the ideological tilt that has taken place in our country.
We've got we've gotten to a point where God forbid somebody has a difference of opinion and a different form of ideology, then you you're damn near the antichrist.
And that's not what makes this country great.
I mean, the reality is is that you know what, we could sit up there and we could say what we want, and everybody has their different opinions about Donald Trump.
You know how I felt, you knew why I didn't vote for him.
I don't like the way he behaves.
I think the presidency is a statesmanship position, and I think that that I think that level of hubris that he's accustomed to showing needs to be dialed back significantly.
But having said that, the bottom line is simple.
You can look at a lot of things on the right or the left.
He talked about the economy, okay.
He and you know, Biden inherited what was it, like one and a half percent uh in terms of inflation.
It ballooned to over 9.1% before it got dialed down a little bit.
We looked at open borders.
Barack Obama was once considered the deporter in chief because he actually deported more folks than Donald Trump.
But Biden comes into office, and the first thing he does, day one, executive order.
He opens the borders, and obviously that created so much tension.
And then you look at the culture wars, uh, the identity politics, you know, some of the transgender issues that people were bringing up in terms of individuals transferring tr transitioning from male to female and wanting to participate in female sports and stuff like that, or sharing the same bathroom as females and all of this other stuff.
America said, hey, we're not down for that.
We're not going for it.
And no matter what you try to throw in our direction, that's not what we're concerned about.
We're primarily concerned about the economy.
We're probably primarily concerned about our borders and about being safe.
And they voted that way to send that message.
And all we've heard over the last couple of days is folks going absolutely back crazy because the candidate that they preferred to win didn't win.
And I just want to take a moment to remind everybody this is America.
Guess what?
Sometimes you don't get what you want.
But we are known for having intestinal resolve and making sure we're able to march forward and work with whoever candid whichever candidate ends up being in office and winning and find a way to work with one another and and reach some degree of compromise so we have civility in this country instead of chaos.
It's gonna be up to Donald Trump to contribute to that, no doubt.
But the way I've seen some of the Democrats reacting since Kamala Harris loss, to be quite honest with you, is utterly ridiculous.
I'm not gonna get into any names, but it's been utterly ridiculous.
You know, one thing, when I'm on your show, I do all the talking when you're on my show, I let you do all the talking we kind of have a we kind of have this uh unspoken agreement.
Because I do I always but together when we have conversations, they're they're really thoughtful conversations.
They're real.
We keep it real.
Okay.
You know, you always tell me to stay in my lane politics, I tell you to stay in your lane sports, but you're you're making a lot of sense tonight.
And they would be wise to listen to you, and more importantly, the spirit in which you're telling it, and I give you a lot of credit for that.
You know, the here's where I see it, and tell me what you agree or disagree with.
They could not run on one thing that they could point to where we were better off than we were four years ago.
One major thing that improved the lives of the American people.
The campaign ended with you're a racist, you're a Nazi, you're a fascist, a misogynist, even Barack Obama and Stacey Abrams calling African American men misogynists and sexists.
Stacey Abrams says they're racist.
And a lot of what they said was just flat out lies.
Kabbalah told us for three years the border was was secure, it was not.
Everybody knew it wasn't.
She said for three years that it inflation was transitory and denied that we had a tr an inflation problem.
Uh she also lied during the campaign, her final argument.
She told American women, she told them that Donald Trump's gonna sign a national abortion ban.
That was a lie.
She said Donald Trump will limit your access to contraception.
That was a lie.
She said that he would ban IVF, that was a lie.
She tried to scare seniors and say that he's gonna take away your Social Security and Medicare.
He promised he would not do it.
Benefits went up in his first term when he was president.
So analyze that strategy.
You can't run on what you did or what you succeeded at.
So you're gonna go to the lowest level, tell lies, and call people Nazism fascist.
Not a good strategy, Stephen.
Not nice either.
Well, I'm I'm not I I'm not going to deny that it's not the greatest strategy.
I don't know if you're entirely completely accurate in everything that you're saying.
Because I could I can think of lies that the other side as well.
But I will say this to you.
If you're Kamala Harris, what you could have done is lean on the reports that the economy was actually getting better and it actually isn't a good place compared to where it was.
You could have acknowledged that guess what?
I was a bit wrong in a pos I was a bit wrong in the position that I took on the border.
And obviously it's not about flip-flopping, it's about me correcting the error of my ways.
She didn't do that.
But in the end, I will tell you, I'll do you a favor and tell you where the biggest crime came about from the Democratic Party.
You had a situation with Biden, who promised to be a trans, uh, you know, uh uh uh a transitional president.
He was he labeled himself a stopgap, somebody that was gonna come in there, sort of calm the waters, and then move out the way for uh young blood to come into the into the fray and and new blood rather to come into the fray and be the next president of the United States.
There was supposed to be a red wave in the midterms.
It didn't happen.
What does he do?
He's the incumbent.
He gets comfortable and says, I'm not going anywhere.
And that threw everything up in flux.
So suddenly he's debilitated a bit.
The cognitive decline is something that we were witnessing.
People were noticing it but didn't want to speak about it.
You let them go on stage and get embarrassed June 27th, three and a half weeks later, you elevate her.
She never went through a primary or anything like that, which raised question marks.
And then what do you do from there on, Sean?
You've got you, you obviously they felt they needed to do whatever they could to get excuse.
This is what they were doing.
And it didn't work.
It didn't work.
And and and that's what you have to applaud.
The American people are smoking.
They said we're not going for that.
We're looking at policies.
We're not going for all of that.
One last one last question.
We don't have a lot of time.
She never had to explain one time why she co-sponsored the Green New Deal, 93 trillion, and said she'd eliminate the filibuster.
She never had to explain her position on gun mandatory buyback.
She never had to explain why she said the rioters in 2020, 574 of them won't stop, shouldn't stop, and she won't stop supporting them.
She never had to explain.
She never had to explain, you know, why we're going to pay for free sex change operations for uh illegal immigrants.
And give them amnesty when they don't respect our laws.
Will you agree with me?
And we have 30 seconds for you to answer.
That legacy media is dead.
Do you agree or disagree?
I'm not gonna say it's dead because I'm holding out hope that it can be resuscitated.
But hold on to this moment, Sean.
Because it's a rarity.
Hold on to this for hold on to this for the rest of your life, okay?
I am going to agree with you from the standpoint that what was done was inexcusable because it was favoritism in the media, and it had no place in it for a presidential election.
You gotta call balls and strikes.
And that's not what people on both sides were doing, but especially the left over the last couple of days.
They ain't calling balls and strikes, and they're wrong.
You're right, and it's your day.
Enjoy it.
It's a real moment, but you got it.
All right, that was my friend Stephen A. Smith on Hannity last night.
I mean, one I can have a discussion with him.
No, I I think he would have preferred Kamala Harris win.
But he gave also pretty darn good analysis as to why she didn't win.
Now I I I would add a lot more to it, but I was he was a guest on my show.
When you have a guest, you try and let your guest get a few words in, and I'd let him get more than a few in.
Anyway, I thought I think maybe there's a lesson there for everybody.
There's been plenty of elections that I would would have liked my side to win, and we didn't win.
And I don't talk about leaving the country.
I go about the business of doing my shows and and getting ready to battle another day.