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I mean, poor James Carvel is out of his mind.
He's freaking out that Donald Trump is winning in these polls.
He's freaking out that Joe Biden is a cognitive mess.
He's freaking out that he's losing African Americans, Hispanic Americans, and young people.
Now he's very clearly in a cold sweat over Joe's prospects for victory in November.
He posted a video yesterday warning that if Donald Trump secures re-election and replaces Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor, the United States will move into a theocracy.
I can assure you.
All right, they're just freaking out.
Chrissy Teagan, the actress, freaking out.
He's going to be coming after me.
Allie, whatever his name is at MSDNC, they're going to go after all media critics.
No, they're not.
Rachel Mano's going to send me to camp.
I don't know if it's day camp or sleepaway camp.
I've no idea what kind of camp she's talking about.
We know what she's referring to.
Uh I doubt Trump knows much, if anything at all, really about her.
Nicole Wallace saying, I could be off the air.
Then you got Joyla's Behar thing, and she's going to be off the air.
And the list goes on and on and on.
AOC thinks she's going to be in jail.
They're all in a panic.
And they all want to scare the hell out of you.
And watch what Joe Biden tries to do.
Again, you know, we'll uh we'll get into this in more specificity in detail later, but is it going to be jacked up hyper caffeinated Joe, or is it going to be, you know, the cognitive dysfunction that we see every day?
And I would say it's probably the latter.
Um I think the odds are pretty high that that Dr. Ronnie Jackson is correct, is they're probably experimenting with just the right dose, knowing that they probably overdid it at the State of the Union when he screamed his speech.
I mean, he literally just he didn't even let the speaker introduce him, and he's screaming his speech at and he's reading in the teleprompter.
He's not going to have a teleprompter here.
I know many of you, many theories out there that it's it's Joe Biden is gonna have special things put in his uh there's no evidence of any of that, and I imagine that there's probably checks for that.
Uh certainly there are no notes.
There's no teleprompter.
And Joe still, whether he's on Red Bull or caffeine pills or whatever, uh, still has to perform.
And he still has to remember.
And he still has to not mumble bumble stumble.
And he still has to stand for 90 minutes.
I mean, think about what's going on here.
I mean, hiding out at Camp David for days on end, what, seven, eight, nine days, whatever it is, not doing his job as president, just dedicating the entire time to debate prep and maybe the proper dosage of caffeine.
Uh so he and changing his sleep schedule from what it usually is, sleeping all day, to, you know, now having to be up at nine o'clock at night, which the thought of it.
Oh, it's gonna be awful.
Uh so, but what is he what are they doing for the entire week?
Donald Trump is out playing golf.
He's been campaigning everywhere.
He's been doing fundraises everywhere.
Yeah, he's doing some debate prep.
I've checked in with his team.
And but for the most part, he's just he's just going about his daily life.
And, you know, there's such a difference between, and we'll play this later in the program today, between Joe's day-to-day cognitive struggles compared to that one State of the Unionist speech that he screamed and yelled and was, you know, speeded up at a level that oh, and he sounded articulate.
Oh, thank God, he showed that he could be cognitively okay.
How come we never saw that Joe again?
We never saw that hyped up, hypercaffeinated, jacked up Joe before, and we haven't seen him since.
Now, I my suspicion is is that whatever amount of caffeine or Red Bull or whatever they they might have given him to stay up that late, because they always prepare, they always hide him for a week before any big event to adjust him to the schedule of being up late and not sleeping at seven o'clock at night anyway.
So it's um it's gonna be interesting.
You have, you know, we're we're experiencing a time that is nobody seems to care how badly they cheat when it comes to Donald Trump.
How is it nobody in the in the state run media media mob, how come they didn't make a big deal about the civil trial and the fact they have an attorney general campaigning on one platform to get Donald Trump?
How come they didn't make a big deal?
That case was about valuations.
How come nobody in the media cared enough to point out the obvious that there's no insurance company on the face of this earth, there's no lending institution on the face of this earth that is going to lend or insure hundreds of millions of dollars in property unless they do their own valuations.
They have nothing but a full complete fiduciary responsibility.
Never mind the Trump disclaimer that said, don't go with our valuations.
You have a responsibility to do your own.
And nobody wanted to nobody cared.
And then a case about valuations becomes a case about the worst valuation ever in the history of real estate, which was judging Goron and his valuation of Mar-a-Lago at $18 million.
Now, if you go on a website and look up, go on Zillow, for example, and take a look and look at valuations for properties that because there's there are no properties like Mar-a-Lago, centrally located, pristine condition.
It's on the intercoastal and it's on the ocean.
It's got two clubs associated with it.
It's got 50 some odd bedrooms and bathrooms and and cottages all over the property, amenities that you can only dream of, like including hair salons and tennis courts and everything imaginable.
Twenty-two acres.
Now, if you look, you can find right now.
I know a one and a half acre lot you can buy in Palm Beach, and it's it's nothing but dirt and trees and one of the worst locations you'd ever want where there is a busy, busy street between the lot, the dirt, the trees, and the ocean, a huge street in front of it, and it and it butts up to the intercoastal.
It's on one of the thinner parts of Palm Beach Island as they refer to it.
That lot is for sale for 150 million dollars.
It's a one-acre plot of land on the ocean, which is very small considering Palm Beach standards for oceanfront property.
I think the cheapest one is eighty-eight million dollars.
I mean, that's the cheapest.
You get a two-acre lot for about two hundred million dollars, and just dirt.
We're not even talking about the intercoastal side.
How is it the judge got away with that?
How come nobody in the media cared about that?
How come none of them cared about an eight-year-old legal non disclosure agreement put together by an attorney, an attorney who testified in the trial, that he he told many people that he did all of this without Donald Trump's knowledge,
and he gets paid for it, and it's labeled as a legal expense, and we're told it's a bookkeeping case, And for the entire trial, nobody knows what this novel legal theory and all these other felonies are because the statute of limitations on the misdemeanor and long run out,
and they just upcharge it to and and they stack the charges, 34 of them, and they come up with this novel legal theory, and the judge then instructs the jury that they can do things that the Constitution clearly does not allow them to do.
And not informing a defendant of what the charges are against them is also equally unconstitutional, a violation of the Sixth Amendment.
So nobody seems in the media mob to care at all when Donald Trump is being treated horribly.
They don't seem to care.
So why would they care that Donald Trump in the history of modern presidential televised debates?
Something has happened here that never happened before.
And I know why Donald Trump did it.
He actually explained it to Byron York in an in an interview that he did with Byron, and that is he doesn't think they ever thought he would take Joe's conditions, make my day.
He didn't think Joe Biden wanted to debate him.
So they lay out these onerous conditions, one-sided conditions, that it's going to be one of four networks, all liberal networks, and that it's going to be Joe's way or the highway, and Donald Trump would have no say about the format.
Donald Trump would have no say about the moderators.
Donald Trump would have no say about what network it would be on, and that he either takes it or they would come out and say, see, Donald Trump doesn't want to debate.
So maybe a little little clever on their part, but maybe they were too cute by half because Donald Trump accepted.
And some people say, well, he shouldn't have accepted under those conditions.
Well, now you have you have two people masquerading as journalists.
They claim to be journalists, fake Jake Tapper, fake Dana Bash, and they're anything but fair and balanced and journalists.
They're not.
But this has never happened in history where both sides didn't have to agree on the moderator and agree on the format and agree on what network it would be on.
And that's the position, and nobody in the media even talks about it because they don't care.
You know, Trump agreed to participate.
He knows these debates are important, and he did it knowing that Deck would be stacked against him.
He knew that there would be rampant bias.
He knows, and I'm sure he's very certain that most of the questions are going to be, you know, probably at least half the debate, you know, who won the 2020 election, January 6th, insurrection, etc., etc.
Abortion, abortion, abortion, and then apparently fake news CNN is going to take whatever the question is, and then they'll put a Chiron, meaning a written version of it, a truncated version of the question on the screen and leave it up the entire time.
That should not be allowed.
I can't think of that ever happening in any past presidential debate, but that's going to be probably CNN's most obvious example of their bias.
Donald Trump explains why he supports insurrection and things like that.
There'll be a bias of omission.
How much time are they going to devote to the economy?
How much time are they going to vote to Joe's open borders disaster?
How much time are they going to devote to people coming from Iran and Syria and Yemen and Venezuela and Egypt and Afghanistan or the nearly 60,000 in the last year and a half communist Chinese nationals that have come into America buying up thousands of acres of farmland and thousands of acres of ranch land and rent land all over the country near our military installations?
How much time will they spend on well when Donald Trump was president, gas prices never averaged out to $3 a gallon?
It was always below $3 a gallon.
How much will emphasis will they put on law and order versus defund dismantle, no bail laws?
How much emphasis will they put on Joe Biden's failed foreign policy or surrendering in the war on terrorism?
They're not going to do it.
And that's my prediction.
And they won't care if it's jacked up Joe.
You know, he'll get a pass on that too.
They're not going to care if it's hypercaffeinated Joe, who whatever Joe shows up, as long as Joe shows up.
He won.
He won.
He showed up and he didn't mess up too bad.
He says he did really good for somebody That's that's a cognitive mess the way he is almost every other day.
And the moderators, you know, are probably the worst part of the debate.
I don't have a problem with them being, you know, liberal democratic hate Trump talk show hosts, because that's what they are.
And I'll play them in their own words, because obviously you can't even talk about it on their network.
We saw this happen with Caroline Levitt yesterday.
But neither Jake, fake Jake or fake Dana Bash are unbiased.
They hate Donald Trump.
And we've got all of them in their own words that prove it.
They're pro-Biden, anti-Trump, liberal Democratic, radical talk show hosts.
They're not journalists.
They have spent years trashing Trump.
You know, it's that that's why that's why I guess this other talk shows, Cassie Hunt, whoever she is.
You know, she displays a picture of Joe Biden on her Twitter page.
She's the one that kicked off, you know, Trump campaign press secretary, Caroline Levitt who was on this program yesterday.
She wasn't even able to get out a sentence.
No, no, but you won't, but you are welcome back any other time, so I can kick you off the air again if you say something I I don't like.
And we got a cut of Stephen Miller experiencing the same thing.
Laura Trump said the same thing happened to her.
I mean, it's make no mistake, barring some kind of change of heart.
You know, watch it, watch them cut off Donald Trump at the past as soon as he starts answering a question effectively.
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We'll analyze whether it'll be jacked up Joe, hyper caffeinated Joe, or cognitively impaired Joe.
We'll also go over the you know moderators and how big a factor they will be with their bias.
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Hey there, I'm Mary Catherine Hamm.
And I'm Carol Markowitz.
We've been in political media for a long time.
Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.
That's why we started normally a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity.
We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor.
We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously.
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You're our kind of people.
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We do have some news.
Uh Judge Mershawn has partly lifted the gag order imposed on Donald Trump in the hush money case.
He has Kept some restrictions in place.
Anyway, the decision came two days before the presidential debate, and the parts of the gag order that he struck down that barred Trump from making public statements about witnesses or jurors and the in the case is gone.
He ruled that Trump is still bound by the order's restrictions on speaking about lawyers and staff of the Manhattan District Attorney's Office and the court plus any of their family members if those statements could interfere with the case.
Trump is allowed to speak about Alvin Bragg.
Anyway, it is there shouldn't be any gag order in this case.
None at all, whatsoever.
By the way, I hear what's going on in a Fort Pierce courtroom about the documents case not going well for the special counsel.
Apparently they admitted that the FBI added cover sheets to the classified documents found at Mar-a-Lago.
which, by the way, that means that their admission, they doctored evidence, is a huge problem and the legitimacy of the appointment of the special counsel, huge problem.
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Um what's going to be interesting about the debate, and I have gone through this in great specificity in detail.
I don't I don't think this is hard to predict what they're going to do.
I don't think it's difficult to for Donald Trump to not give them what they want.
Because they are going to want to piss off Donald Trump.
And I I I the way I've seen him and I've known him for a lot of years, he's so dialed in right now.
I don't think it's going to matter what they do.
I don't think it's going to matter what fake Jake, fake Dana say.
I think the only thing that matters is if they try to shut him down constantly and they're going to try and interrupt him.
I mean, imagine they're giving each candidate two minutes to answer a question.
You get a one-minute rebuttal, and what they're going to interrupt his his answer to say uh that's not true.
Well, that's that's not their job to do that.
That would be the job of you know, Joe Biden if he's up to it.
If he's not up to it, it's up for the American people to decide.
They'll have plenty of time on fake news CNN to kick off any Trump supporter that says he did well.
They can do that afterwards.
By the way, Fox News will be simulcasting the debate, which is where I will be watching it.
Uh I will be on as part of special coverage at eight o'clock Eastern time before the debate and hosting the post-debate show at eleven o'clock.
Uh we have a pretty big uh lineup that night.
I'll tell you more about that as we get closer to it.
It was a pretty interesting, I thought very thoughtful New York Post editorial today.
And it starts out, it says, There's no one else quite like Donald Trump.
What other candidate in American history would start polling his audiences?
He was in Philly at that Philly cheeses steak place, and you know, well, what what strategy against Joe Biden should I should I use?
How should I handle him?
Should I be tough and nasty?
He said then, you know, took on a comically tough guy voice, you know, or you know, the worst president in history.
The crowd, of course, loves it and roars.
Or should I be nice and calm?
And then people boo.
Um, and I think this is important for anybody to understand.
There will be people watching this debate that are hardcore Donald Trump supporters.
They're gonna vote for Donald Trump no matter what.
And by the way, I hope some of you that are reluctant and resistant to voting early and voting by mail, overcome that reluctance and resistance.
No, it's not the system I want.
It's the system we're stuck with.
The only way you change the system is if you win elections, and you gotta win this election.
So uh you've got to embrace the system we have and then force your legislatures, state legislatures to adopt election integrity laws like voter ID and signature verification and chain of custody controls and updated voter roles and partisan observers getting to watch the vote counting all day, the voting all day and the vote counting all night.
It's not that hard.
But they're gonna try and piss off Trump, convicted felon, insurrectionist, Threat to democracy, uh, radical, extreme, unhinged, whatever they want.
But Donald Trump just needs to keep going back to the basics.
And instead of allowing them to dictate the terms, he's allowed to give whatever answer he wants.
And Americans, and this is confirmed by a poll that came out just today by John McLaughlin and associates, they'll join us at the top of the hour.
The number one choice in terms of people's first and second issues are Biden inflation and high prices.
That's 49%.
That's what people care the most about.
Securing the border and immigration, that's 31%.
You know, 21% is jobs in the economy, which which kind of goes to the number one issue.
People care about their futures.
Social Security and Medicare, and Joe Biden and Democrats are trying to metascare and lie that Donald Trump's going to take away Medicare and Social Security.
That is an outright lie.
And then down on the list, then you see, oh, January 6th, and abortion and uh ending wars in Ukraine and Gaza and climate change and the environment, etc., etc.
That's not where people's heads are at.
They're pocketbook issues.
New Gingrich, I think, has been saying it very well.
Well, after the debate, people are still gonna have to go to the grocery store.
They're still gonna fill up their cars.
After the debate, you know, people are gonna be dealing with the problem of illegal immigration.
We went into this great deep in great detail last night on Hannity, and I'll get into it in more detail in a minute, but on the issue of immigration.
Remember, Donald Trump comes down the escalator in in 2015 and talks about, you know, unvetted rapists, murderers in our country.
Not everybody.
There are people that come here for good reasons, he says, you know, that they want a better life, but there are bad people among those people entering the country, which is why you have to vet them.
Make sure they don't have radical associations and criminal histories, make sure after a pandemic that they don't have health problems that they're going to bring into the country, or that they're not going to be a financial burden like they are now on the American people.
And I just think that that is the audience that Donald Trump needs to be looking at.
The people that have been told over and over again by the mob in the media that he's unhinged and he's crazy and he's he's mean and he's whatever.
You know, if he if he sticks to what the bread and butter issues that people care about, when you have 25% of the country that are struggling to put every meal on the table, and two-thirds of the country economically saying they're gasping for air and they can barely make ends meet, you know, that means that you know, let people see that side of him.
And that would be my general advice to President Trump, and I thought it was well written in the New York Post today.
You know, he's gonna, I think there's there's always a group of people that want him to go hardcore, appease the base, appease the base.
He's got the base.
Joe Biden has his base, believe it or not.
I don't know who these people are, but they're out there.
And but there's a whole other group of people here, millions of people that would potentially vote for Donald Trump if they can see that his policies are gonna make their lives better.
And elections usually are driven by peace and prosperity.
And we're not experiencing either one right now.
Then you add to that Joe being a cognitive mess, which the country, the entire country sees, whether he's hyper-caffeinated Joe, jacked up Joe or not, they still see what they see every day.
So when you talk about, you know, it's it's gonna be Donald Trump.
It's they're not gonna want to talk about the topics that people care about.
They're gonna want the topics that would favor Joe and play into their narrative, which is hate Trump uh Donald Trump at all costs, and focus in on old issues.
You know, if you ask a Bagallup poll in March asking Americans what their top concerns were, inflation, crime, homelessness, health care, the budget deficit, immigration.
And those are the issues that I would recommend that the president really focus on.
And in that sense, I think he has a chance to convince that group of people that life under Joe Biden has not been particularly well.
You see, China, Russia, Iran, you know, Joe Biden is is completely impotent and kicking the kissing the ass of all these dictators and and having no response to even nuclear submarines with hypersonic missiles off the coast of Florida for crying out loud,
granting Nord Stream two waivers to Vladimir Putin while simultaneously killing the Keystone XL pipeline, or allowing China to have their spy balloon fly over the continental United States over our military installations and buying up our farmland and our ranch land and land near those installations.
And of course, intellectual property theft and unfair trade practices and hostile maneuvers against our allied Taiwan and hostile maneuvers against American fighter jets and international airspace and our Navy and international waterways.
What does Joe do?
He does nothing.
And allowing Iran turning a blind eye to them, making hundreds of millions of dollars selling their oil and giving them sanction waivers so that they can get rich and build out their nuclear technology.
Never mind his complete surrender in the war against radical Islamic terrorism by not supporting the right of Israel to go out and win their war after they were attacked.
These are incredible times that we're living in.
So there's a lot to do here.
And I I think that you're gonna see Joe Biden will lie, and I think Trump should rightly call that out, but call it out in the in the right way.
I think there should be a strategy for dealing with fake news CNN hosts.
I think the president will be prepared for that too.
And I think it's it's absolutely imperative that he just compare and contrast Joe Biden's radical record and positions and his adherence to the insanity.
And, you know, he can answer the question about the 2020 election, sure.
But it's 2024.
Time has passed.
It's time to focus on the future.
Elections are about the future, it's not about the past.
And I'm sure they'll never bring up all the Democrats that have been election deniers.
We played that montage many, many times.
We know the big lithe about Secretary of State Tony Winkam Blinken organizing these 51 former Intel agents that knew nothing about Hunter's very real laptop to lie.
I don't think it's unfair to point out that Hunter, you know, you know, implicates his own father as it relates to January 6th.
I think there's an answer.
You know, first thing I would say is why don't you care about the the 574 riots in the summer of 2020?
Why didn't anyone seem to care when the vice president, Joe's vice president, tweeted out a bail fund?
You know, for after the burning down of a Minneapolis uh police precinct.
And well, you're gonna be involved in retribution.
Well, the two issues that I think that they're gonna focus on the most.
I think they're they they want to focus in on Donald Trump and portray Donald Trump as extreme as possible.
I think the person that has been the extreme and unwilling to confront radical Islamic terrorism, that would be Joe Biden.
I think the person that supports Israel's right to defend itself win their war, as Trump says quickly with Israel against Hamas, that's Trump.
I think Vladimir Putin, President Chi, Kim Jong-un, the mullahs in Iran.
I think they feared Donald Trump.
You don't think the mules in Iran would prefer Joe Biden after he took out General Solomani and wiped out the caliphate and killed Baghdadian associates and wiped out the leader of Al Qaeda in Yemen?
Yeah, I think they're afraid of that guy.
You think Vladimir Putin probably wouldn't want to weigh out of this ridiculous war that he started?
Do you think it would have even started if Donald Trump was president?
I don't think so.
Do you think it's time President Trump's been talking about an iron dome of all iron domes made in America to prevent any nuclear power from ever having the ability to kill us and wipe out American cities?
I think that's pretty forward thinking.
You think it's going to be good for the country economically if Joe Biden implements a 44% capital gains tax?
I don't think so.
You think it's going to be good to have tax cuts and spending cuts and fiscal discipline, which granted, under Trump with COVID, that became impossible.
You know, it's there's there's so much here that I think the president can sink his teeth into.
How about letting hard working service workers keep their tip money and not tax it?
Another brilliant idea.
I just think that if the president it doesn't really matter which Joe shows up.
What matters a lot more in my mind is which Donald Trump shows up.
It matters a lot more how much.
Now, right now, if you look at the Rasmussen polls, a head-to-head matchup, Trump's up by nine.
If it's five people, he's up by ten.
Emerson poll has Donald Trump winning every swing state and tied in in the state of Minnesota.
So uh, you know, most of the polls out there, but it's far from look, we're 1032 days away.
132 days away.
There's a lot that can happen.
Only 82 days until early voting starts.
There's a lot on the table here.
And I just think that Joe Biden's strategy is going to be to scare seniors, metascare, social security scare, scare women, lie to them about abortion.
We just had a Supreme Court decision that guarantees that the abortion pill, which basically covers the first trimester, will be readily available around the country.
So uh it's not exactly the issue it was in 2022, and Democrats demagogued abortion and death.
And they're telegraphing, by the way, the Biden campaign.
That's what their plan is, also.
You know, Biden says a vote for Trump is a vote for a national abortion ban.
No, it's not.
And he'll tell us flat out lies.
Anyway, it's it's just to me, it's an opportunity.
It's an opportunity.
Donald Trump, you know, might be a weird environment without a I guess with a three-on-one situation and and no audience there.
It kind of worked out when I did it with DeSantis and Gavin Newsom.
It was fine without an audience, but it would have been a lot better if you had an audience.
Why not get reaction?
Why not involve the American people?
That well, that was another dictator, Joe Biden.
Never in the history of modern televised presidential debates has it been so openly one-sided and nobody cares at all.
And on the issue of immigration, you should hear the mother of Rachel Moore uh Morin, who was raped and murdered.
You know, prosecutors now revealing that 12-year-old Jocelynary fought back against Biden's illegals.
She fought back apparently for two hours, was brutalized and murdered.
It's pretty unreal.
They now say that this 12-year-old little girl killed by Biden illegals, sexually assaulted on top of everything else.
Oh, I thought when Trump said it in 2015, the media went crazy.
He's calling people from Mexico rapists and murderers.
No, he said some.
And we have to be careful, which is why you have to vet them, which is why you need a secure border.
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