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Biden Attacks Rep. Comer - December 13th, Hour 2
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If you want to be a part of the program, what a news day this has been, as we have spent most of the program talking about Hunter Biden and what is now pending to be a contempt citation.
Congressman James Comer, who will join us in a minute, said that today Hunter Biden defied lawful subpoenas, that they will now initiate contempt of Congress proceedings.
By the way, the same exact treatment that Steve Banning got, the same treatment that Peter Navarro got.
And we will not provide special treatment because his last name is Biden.
He put out a full statement on all of this.
Now, prior to him not going before the committee, Hunter Biden spoke to the press.
And what was very clear and apparent to me is we've come a long way from Joe Biden saying I never once talked to my son, my brother, or anybody for that matter about their foreign business dealings.
And now the bar has shifted yet again.
And well, we put this little montage together to remind you of all the things that have been said.
How many times have you ever spoken to your son about his overseas business dealings?
I've never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings.
I have never discussed with my son or my brother or anyone else anything having to do with their businesses.
Period.
One of your son's former business associates is claiming that you were on speakerphone a lot with them talking business.
Is that what never talked business in?
I know you'd have a lousy question.
Why is that a lousy question?
Because that is not true.
The answer is not going to change.
The answer remains the same.
The president was never in business with his son.
I can tell you that Hunter did not share his business with his dad.
I can tell you that he did not share money from his businesses with his dad.
Why you interacted with so many of your son and brother's foreign business associates?
I'm not going to comment.
I did not.
And it's just a bunch of lies.
You didn't interact with any of his foreign business associates?
I did not.
They're lies.
My father was not financially involved in my business, not as a practicing lawyer, not as a board member of Burisma, not in my partnership with a Chinese private businessman, not in my investments at home nor abroad, and certainly not as an artist.
Not as an artist.
Gee, that was a hard one.
Now, earlier today, Hunter Biden speaking about James Comer, Jim Jordan, and Jason Smith.
We'll get James Comer's reaction in a second.
and saying all the Republicans have all distorted facts and all have lied.
Meanwhile, the biggest liar in all of this is Joe Biden.
But anyway, here's what he said, talking about, you know, they've taken the light of my dad's love for me and presented it as darkness.
They have no shame.
James Comer, Jim Jordan, Jason Smith, and their colleagues have distorted the facts by cherry-picking lines from a bank statement, manipulating texts I sent, editing the testimony of my friends and former business partners, and misstating personal information that was stolen from me.
There is no fairness or decency in what these Republicans are doing.
They have lied over and over about every aspect of my personal and professional life.
So much so that their lies have become the false facts believed by too many people.
No matter how many times it is debunked, they continue to insist that my father's support of Ukraine against Russia is the result of a non-existent bribe.
They displayed naked photos of me during an oversight hearing.
And they have taken the light of my dad's love, the light of my dad's love for me, and presented it as darkness.
Joining us now, he is the chairman of the very powerful House Oversight Committee, Oversight and Accountability Committee.
James Comer of Kentucky is with us today.
Congressman, great to have you back.
It's been a very busy day.
Let's start with your statement that you and Jim Jordan have put out on Hunter failing to appear for his deposition today, saying that he defied the lawful subpoena and that you will now initiate contempt of Congress proceedings and you will not provide special treatment because his last name is Biden.
Let's talk about what happened today.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
I mean, I've never seen such a display of arrogance and entitlement.
At the same moment, he was supposed to show up for a deposition, a deposition in which there were over a dozen members of Congress from both oversight and judiciary committee in both parties sitting in a room with boxes and boxes of bank statements with hours and hours of preparation involved in preparing questions that pertain to honestly public corruption at the highest levels in our national security.
And at the same time, he rolls up in his big fancy vehicle and has what he calls a press conference with the press, issues his little publicity stunt, and then drives off, doesn't answer any questions, and just defies a congressional subpoena.
Hunter Biden thinks that the oversight committee is going to treat him like the IRS, the DOJ, the FBI, the Treasury.
If he thinks that, then he's badly mistaken, Sean.
And I hope that we can get everything together to be able to hold him in contempt as soon as possible.
In your statement, you made a big point of pointing out that a deposition after a subpoena is a standard investigative procedure used by attorneys and congressional investigators.
They tried to turn this into a narrative that, well, you wanted to only talk to Hunter behind closed doors and not publicly.
You publicly stated on my shows, both on radio and TV, that, in fact, Hunter would be very welcome to testify publicly after the deposition behind closed doors took place, as required by law and as is normal procedure.
Is that correct?
That's 100% correct, Sean.
I mean, every major investigation in history, whether it be congressional investigation or a law enforcement investigation, you have a closed door deposition.
And you don't always call it closed door because that's a given.
Every deposition is closed door.
And the reason you do deposition is because it's a substantive investigation.
A committee hearing, and I've said this before, we might get 40, maybe 45 questions in when you go five minutes back and forth, one round of questions with 25 Republicans.
You do a closed door deposition where the Republicans have an hour, then the Democrats have an hour, then the Republicans have an hour and say it goes eight hours, and that's how long the Trump families went when the Democrats were in control.
We could ask 800 questions.
And once we ask those questions, we can fact check those questions because we all know the Bidens have a history of not telling the truth.
And then we'll have a public hearing.
And you have all your depositions, and then you go to the public hearing.
That's the way congressional investigations are conducted.
That's the way the Democrats always conducted it.
And that's the way that we're going to conduct them.
I play the montage beginning with Joe Biden as a candidate, even as president, saying that he never one time spoke with or discussed with his son, his brother, or anybody their foreign business dealings.
That then evolved into that Joe never spoke about business.
Then it broke into the president was never involved in business.
He was not financially involved in business.
This is an ever-changing narrative.
If you listen closely to the excuses that keep shifting and changing, what do you make of those shifting changes based on the evidence that has come out?
They have to change their story.
The media continues to move the goalpost on what is actual evidence, and the Bidens continue to move and change their stories on what involvement Joe actually had.
Remember, Joe said his family never took money from China.
In Hunter's statement today, he talked about his Chinese associate who is missing, by the way.
The lies are untold.
Excuse me, but Hunter himself said that in the Good Morning America interview that he'd never gotten any money from China, if I recall.
When I disclosed the very first wire into the Robinson Walker shell company, that was a wire from China.
And the Washington Post fact-checked me and said he never got any money from China.
And we had the bank records here.
And when the Democrats stand up on the House floor and defend their man, Joe Biden and Hunter Biden, they say there's no evidence.
I mean, Sean, we have piles of evidence, and we've been transparent with that evidence.
We've shown it on our website, the House Republican Oversight Committee website.
It goes down with bank statements.
We've prepared four bank memorandums.
I mean, we had prepared for a very extensive, substantive deposition today.
And Hunter Biden would have had an opportunity to clear his good name.
He would have been able to say, no, you've misread all these bank statements.
They really didn't come from China.
This company really was a legitimate company.
I had an energy company.
You just haven't figured it out yet.
It was here, and this is what we did.
This investment company, I know the bank said this investment company had no investments, but we really did.
You just haven't found them yet.
He had an opportunity to do that today, and he woppled because it's all a lie.
This was an influence peddling scheme.
This was an organized criminal activity that Joe Biden was well aware of because he was the brand that they were selling.
So let's go back to the original lie that Joe Biden repeated often.
I never once spoke to my son, my brother, or anybody for that matter about their foreign business deals.
Let's focus on that.
And I want to focus on two very specific issues because I think they're the most glaring examples of what I believe is the Joe Biden bribery and money laundering scandal allegations that are in play here.
And number one, correct me if any of my dates are wrong.
Is it true or false that in October of 2015, Joe Biden, the vice president, that within the Obama administration, it became interagency approval and policy of the administration to lend Ukraine, give them a billion dollars in loan guarantees because of, quote, the progress they had made on the issue of corruption.
Did that happen on October of 2015, sir?
True, 100%.
Then I ask you, let's go to December of 2015.
Joe Biden, five days or so away from going to Ukraine to deliver the $1 billion in loan guarantees, got a phone call from his son Hunter, who was with two Burisma executives, and the three of them were in Dubai.
Did that call happen, sir?
Yes.
On that phone call, we don't know what was discussed.
I don't think.
I don't think there's a recording of it.
However, was that not at the time where Burisma executives were emailing and texting that they were in desperate need of D.C. help?
Is that true?
That's true, and we know that from the Devin Archer transcribed interview.
And didn't Devin Archer contradict Joe's statements that he never spoke to Hunter's business partners or spoke about business, not one time, by confirming that over 20 occasions he was aware that Joe Biden was on phone calls with foreign business partners?
Yes, I believe he said at least 20 times.
So at least 20 could be 100, but yes, he did say that.
And do we not have photographic evidence of some of Hunter's foreign business partners, including the Russian oligarch, former first lady of Moscow, Elena Battarina, and Joe Biden eating at the Cafe Milano and Joe Biden with other foreign business partners eating at the Cafe Milano with Joe Biden?
Is that true, sir?
Yes, that's true, even though Joe Biden claimed during the presidential election, he never met with any of these people.
Next question.
Now, five days before, when Joe Biden got that call from Burisma executives that were with Hunter in Dubai, five days later, is that when Joe Biden bragged at the Council on Foreign Relations, what he did that day, which was that he said, you're not getting the billion.
You're not getting a billion unless you fire the prosecutor.
The prosecutor's name is Victor Shokin.
Victor Shokin was investigating the oil and gas giant called Burisma, the same Burisma that hired Hunter to be on the board and was paying him millions of dollars, even though he admitted that he had no experience in energy, oil, gas, coal, or Ukraine.
And that day that that guy, son of a beat, didn't he get that guy fired by leveraging taxpayer dollars and going directly against Obama administration policy?
He got the guy fired.
We now know it was against Obama policy because we found in our investigation an email that showed that the John Kerry State Department had confidence in Victor Shokin, the prosecutor, and they thought he was doing a great job investigating corruption there.
We know that Joe Biden leveraged the billion dollars because he admitted it in an interview.
So yes, that's true.
Then let me ask you the final question.
As a result of Joe Biden's official actions, leveraging a billion taxpayer dollars to get a prosecutor investigating his son and the company his son is associated with fired, getting that investigator fired.
Did that result in a huge financial benefit for Hunter Biden personally, family member?
Yes.
And is that against the bribery statute?
Is that an example that you believe might be bribery?
Yes.
I mean, you bribed the media family member.
That is bribery.
Joe Biden was integrally involved in that because he admitted it on tape.
He bragged about it.
He bragged about firing the guy.
We know that the owners of Burisma wanted Hunter Biden to call his dad to get the prosecutor fired because that's what Devin Archer said under oath in a transcribed interview.
And we know Hunter Biden got millions and millions of dollars from Burisma because he got indicted in California for not paying taxes of it.
So yes, all of that's true, Sean.
Quick break.
We'll come back.
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What I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
You put two and two together.
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
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This is Fiasco, Benghazi.
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Yes, that's right.
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And I'm Carol Markowitz.
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Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.
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What I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith, political warfare, and, frankly, bullshit.
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
You put two and two together.
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
I'm Leon Navok from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries.
This is Fiasco, Benghazi.
What difference at this point does it make?
Yes, that's right.
Lock her up.
Listen to Fiasco, Benghazi, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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All right, we continue our discussion with Congressman James Comer.
He is the chairman of the House Oversight Accountability Committee, and he and Jim Jordan putting out a statement earlier today that, in fact, Hunter Biden defied a lawful subpoena, and they are now going to initiate contempt of Congress proceedings.
We continue to discuss Hunter's comments that he made before the press in Washington.
Let me ask you this.
That was one example.
We went through now the whole burisma example.
And it's clear that Joe Biden kind of went rogue, didn't he, on the issue of what was official interagency recommendation and policies for the Obama administration by leveraging the billion in loan guarantees to get the investigator, Victor Shokin, fired, who was investigating his son and Burisma Holdings that was paying his son with no experience millions of dollars.
And I'll add at a time he admits he was addicted to drugs, correct?
Correct.
All right.
So my next question is, When you juxtapose that whole story with everything that Joe Biden has been telling the American people, what do you conclude?
Well, I conclude that Joe Biden hasn't been truthful with the American people.
And if you look at what happened in Barisma, I believe that set the stage to where China realized they could have a tool in America to help them navigate the bureaucracy and remove barriers to entry to markets because China, you know, they have a significant spying operation.
They watched all this.
They know that Joe Biden was successful in a quid pro quo and got his son off the hook.
And the Democrats in Washington impeached Donald Trump the first time for asking Zelensky whether or not that was true.
So I'm sure the Chinese Communist Party was amazed at this.
And then they saw what happened in Romania.
The same thing happened in Romania that happened in Ukraine.
Joe Biden went to Romania like he went to Ukraine, delivered a speech on public corruption.
And then, you know, days later, money from a corrupt Romanian oligarch starts flowing into the Biden shell company.
So he did it in Ukraine.
He did it in Romania.
He did it in Russia before he did it in Ukraine.
And China then said, there's our guy.
And these are questions that shouldn't be hard to answer.
The basic question of this whole investigation that I've led, Sean, on oversight, was what did the Bidens do to receive the tens of millions of dollars from our enemies around the world?
That's a national security question.
And that's a question that I think every hardworking, taxpaying American has.
So, you know, there's a pattern here.
And you see that 1023 form that alleged Joe Biden took a bribe.
I mean, the way they set that bribe up in the allegation was they ran it through a bunch of different banks and a bunch of different shell companies and investigators would have a hard time finding it.
That's exactly what we saw.
But the 1023 form, did that specifically refer to the burisma example?
Yes.
Or did that did?
Okay, so in other words, and that form did discuss that then Vice President Biden took official action that benefited his family, in this case, his son, Hunter, with no experience at a time he's addicted to drugs and alcohol.
All right.
So let me go back.
Let me say something about that.
So the reason that 1023 was out there and the Democrats and the media created a narrative that, oh, barisma wasn't a real deal.
Rudy Giuliani concocted that.
And that was kind of the way, you know, Donald Trump was the bad guy.
He did the quid pro quo.
So it kind of got left behind.
But what resurrected the barisma were when the FBI whistleblowers contacted Chuck Grassley about the existence of the 1023.
They contacted Grassley when they saw what we had uncovered in China and Romania about the Bidens getting millions of dollars through different shell companies from these oligarchs around the world.
And the FBI guy said, that is consistent with what that 1023 form alleged in barisma.
So that's how that came back on the scene.
Just like the IRS whistleblowers who said the IRS were closing in on Joe, and that's when they were told to stand down, that 1023 was resurfaced when some FBI agents contacted Charles Grassley and said, look, this may be true because of what the oversight committees found in Romania and China.
It's the same pattern.
Let me go back to the interview that Hunter Biden gave, Good Morning America, which I think is going to play very pivotal in this case.
And I want to play it for you and get your reaction to it in light of what you now know from your investigation.
Listen.
The president has repeatedly said that you received $1.5 billion from China despite no experience and for no apparent reason.
Obviously, fact-checkers have said that that is not true.
Look, this literally has no basis in fact in any way.
Have you received any money from non-business dealing?
No.
At all?
Not one cent.
Not one cent.
Definitely not $1.5 billion.
It's crazy.
They feel like they have the license to go out and say whatever they want.
It feels to me like living in some kind of Alice in Wonderland where you're up on the real world and then you fall down the rabbit hole and the president's a Cheshire Cat asking you questions about crazy things that don't have any resemblance to the reality of anything that has to do with me.
And so here's the answer.
No one ever paid me $1.5 billion.
And if they had, I would not be doing this interview right now.
I want to get to the heart of it.
Did you and your father ever discuss Ukraine?
No.
As I said, the only time it was after a news account, and it wasn't a discussion in any way.
There's no but to this.
No, we never did.
What were your qualifications to be on the board of Burisma?
Well, I was vice chairman of the board of Amtrak for five years.
I was the chairman of the board of the UN World Food Program.
I was a lawyer for Boyce Schiller Flexner, one of the most prestigious law firms in the world.
You didn't have any extensive knowledge about natural gas or Ukraine itself, though.
No.
But I think that I had as much knowledge as anybody else that was on the board, if not more.
In the list you gave me of the reasons why you're on that board, you did not list the fact that you were the son of the vice president.
Of course.
Yeah, no.
What role do you think that played?
I think that it is impossible for me to be on any of the boards that I just mentioned without saying that I'm the son of the Vice President of the United States.
If your last name wasn't Biden, do you think you would have been asked to be on the board of Burisma?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Probably not.
I don't think that there's a lot of things that would have happened in my life if my last name wasn't Biden.
Did you say you and your dad talk every night?
Every night.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, we talk at least every night.
Yeah.
Sometimes.
By the way, not only does he talk to me every night, he calls every one of my daughters.
He talks to each one of them every day.
And he talks to me.
I know that he's talking about the.
The president of the United States.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But, by the way, he's always done that.
I want to ask you a number of questions about that exchange here.
Now, do you have irrefutable evidence that that phone call from Dubai took place with Hunter and Burisma executives to Joe Biden?
Do you have evidence of that?
We have evidence through the Transcribe interview, and we are trying to get cell phone evidence as we speak.
part of the stuff that we're having trouble getting but uh yes we're in other words it was a devon archer who told you that that phone call took place Yes.
Let me ask you this.
Hunter says he never got a penny.
Joe Biden said he never got a penny from China.
Was it originally a $1 billion becoming a $1.5 billion deal with the Bank of China?
Did that take place with Hunter's company?
I don't know if that ever happened or not, but we know that $500,000 was wired over, which would have probably been the fee that he would have gotten for a big $1.5 billion investment.
But remember, he just sent the WhatsApp message to shake him down for the $500,000.
And when he got that, that's the message that says, I'm sitting here with my father.
Why haven't you fulfilled the commitment?
And between everybody he knows and my ability to hold a grudge, you're going to regret it.
And me and my father are waiting for you to call us now.
And then how many days later did $5 million show up in one of his accounts from China's energy company, their energy giant CEFC?
Five days later.
$5 million showed up in their account.
Another energy deal where he has no experience.
Let me ask you this.
Do you have evidence that a $5 million forgivable?
Yeah.
Sir, go ahead.
I mean, it was for energy is what the narrative was, but no, there was never an energy company.
I mean, he never, we've never found an energy company.
There's not a legitimate business in the Biden portfolio that we have found.
Now, Hunter could have come in today and said, no, you're wrong.
We had an energy company.
It was over here.
You didn't find it.
But all that we found was the $5 million coming.
And then the Bidens basically took it all, you know, when they split it up between those shell companies.
And then Joe Biden ends up with 40,000 of the 400,000 that went to the Wasco company that he was supposed to be 10% owner in.
I mean, it's, it's, well, Hunter today said that his father did not financially benefit in any way, but yet on his own laptop, which I guess he's now claiming was stolen.
But didn't Hunter's laptop, didn't he implicate his own father by saying half his income goes to Pops?
Didn't he implicate himself by saying he pays for Pops home repairs?
Didn't Tony Bobolinski implicate Joe Biden by saying 10% for the big guy and that the big guy everybody knew was Joe Biden?
Didn't Jason Smith's committee finding these pseudonym emails from Joe Biden to Eric Sherwin, the financial guy, did they not implicate that Joe benefited financially from Hunter's farm business deals?
Yes, 100%.
All right.
So the last question I have on China, was there a $5 million no interest forgivable loan given that you know of?
We know they sent him $5 million.
We don't know what it was for.
We know that he told a bank examiner it was a loan, but I can assure you they never made the first payment on that back to back to China.
There was nothing.
We know we got another $250,000 wire from China that was sent to Joe Biden's house that he claimed was a loan, but he never made any payments on that either.
So that's five, you know, over $5 million, $5.25 million that he's gotten directly from the Chinese Communist Party, and we have no idea what it was for.
That's going to be the first question we would ask in a deposition.
Let me ask this.
You have identified how many shell corporations and how many Biden family members that have received money.
And in any case, have you identified any services rendered with either China, Russia, Ukraine, Romania, Kazakhstan that the Biden family engaged in this massive amount of money, tens of millions of dollars?
We've identified at least 20 shell companies.
The book's still out on three or four more.
We were going to ask him about that, but at least 20 shell companies, which are fake companies, we've identified 10 Biden family members that received payments that were laundered through these shell companies that came from foreign sources.
And we don't know of one single thing that any of those 10 Bidens did to receive that money.
Not a single thing.
Do you believe that at the end of the day, you know, as you look at the evidence you've accumulated, that Hunter Biden and Joe Biden have lied at the highest level and that they cashed in on Joe Biden's position and that they were involved in influence peddling and that in a and do you believe that this rises to the level of bribery based on the law?
There's no question that this was a very organized, extensive influence peddling scheme.
That Hunter Biden and Jim Biden, the president's brother, were at the top of this scheme.
Joe Biden used plausible deniability.
They went to great lengths to give him code names.
We've already found where he used pseudonym emails when he was communicating back and forth with them.
So Joe Biden did everything in his ability in this organized crime ring to be able to say, to claim plausible deniability.
But there's no question, as Devin Archer testified under oath, that they were selling the brand and Joe Biden was the brand.
Joe Biden has not been honest about who all he met with, about the communication.
And we saw today the Bidens continue to change the story.
The more evidence we find, the more they change their story.
We really appreciate your time.
We'll watch very closely these contempt proceedings that you will be pursuing.
Thank you, sir, for being with us, and we appreciate it.
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