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Senator Menendez On The Hot Seat - September 25th, Hour 2
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If you want to be a part of the program, well, it is it is freaking out the Democratic Party, and that is this bribery corruption allegations that seem pretty deep and and profound.
Uh I don't think any reasonable person would ever want such allegations made against them.
We we stand solidly behind the idea that people are innocent until proven guilty.
Uh but the idea that that Menendez uh and these bribery allegations are not going to impact the Democratic Party would be naive.
I mean, if you just look at some of the the comments made this weekend, first let me play AOC, you know, saying, you know, the whole issue that she wants this guy to get out of the way.
Listen.
You know, I think it's the situation is uh quite unfortunate, but I do believe that it is in the best interests uh for Senator Menendez to resign in this moment.
As you mentioned, uh consistency matters.
It shouldn't matter whether it's a Republican or a Democrat.
The details in this indictment are extremely serious.
They involve uh the nature of of not just his but all of our seats in Congress.
And while you know, as a Latina, there are absolutely ways in which there is systemic bias, but I think what is here in this indictment is quite clear.
And um, and I believe it is in the best interest to maintain the integrity of the seat.
And then Menendez is saying I believe I'll be exonerated and remain a New Jersey senator.
So he's defending himself as he planned to do uh where he had initially announced he was running for office.
That was him from uh over the weekend, and then also earlier today he said so similar stuff.
On Friday, the Southern District of New York brought charges against me.
I understand how deeply concerning this can be.
However, the allegations leveled against me are just that.
Allegations.
For anyone who has known me throughout my 50 years of public service, they know I have always fought for what is right.
My advocacy has always been grounded in what I learned from growing up as a son of Cuban refugees, especially my mom, my hero, Evangelina Menendez.
Everything I've accomplished, I've worked for, despite the naysayers and everyone who has underestimated me.
I recognize uh this will be the biggest fight uh yet, but as I have stated throughout this whole process, I firmly believe that when all the facts are presented, not only will I be exonerated, but I still will be the New Jersey's senior senator.
Now, when you're finding gold bars and and cash all over somebody's house, well, I mean, unless they're particularly wealthy, um, you know, that might not be unusual for them if you're a multi-millionaire, uh, but if you're a senator, you know, it's kind of like Joe Biden having all these homes and a stingray, you know, how is he able to afford it on a senator's salary?
And anyway, he you know, he you found the money found was withdrawn from a savings account.
He feared a confiscation like uh his family faced in Cuba.
For thirty years, I have withdrawn thousands of dollars in cash from my personal savings account, which I have kept for emergencies, and because of the history of my family facing confiscation in Cuba.
Now this may seem old fashioned, but these were monies drawn from my personal savings account based on the income that I have lawfully derived over those thirty years.
I look forward to addressing other issues at trial.
Anyway, joining us now is Greg Jarrett, Fox News legal analyst and author of the best seller trial of the century, Jordan Sekillo, uh, executive director of the American Center for Law and Justice.
Uh welcome both of you uh to the program.
Jordan, you actually have commented on this, uh I believe it was on your show that the DOJ is going after Menendez for political reasons.
Why would you believe that?
Well, I think that there's uh you know we talked about this two-tiered system of justice, and Menendez has been no friend of the Obama administration.
Uh they they tr they tried to go after him and it was Jack Smith.
Uh he actually left that investigation right before they brought charges, he ended up in The Hague, but that was his team, the charges that uh Menendez defeated previously, and it was right around the time that Menendez voted against the Iran nuclear deal.
He was one of four Democrats to do that.
Uh Biden wants to bring back uh another nuclear deal.
They've also got hit with this idea of two-tiered system of justice, uh, and they're using it on on places like M SNBC to say, oh, look, see, there's not a two-tiered system of justice.
The DOJ uh will go after Democrats too.
But Menendez, just to remind people, this doesn't mean he's not guilty, Sean.
He's he's been kind of their favorite Democrat to go after.
And it's obviously this DOJ and those those career DOJ folks, they've they've stayed on.
They didn't like the fact that he beat them back the first time, but it's very similar charges this time.
Doesn't mean he's not guilty or that he's innocent, but it is can be somewhat suspicious uh when we look at how this Department of Justice is making decisions.
You know, Greg Jarrett, uh I say there are maybe four or five really top-notch attorneys in DC.
One would be Jordan's dad, Jay Seculo, who we frequently have had on the program, uh, and one would be Abby Lowell.
Uh and interestingly, Abby Lowell was the one that represented him the last time and he got him off uh as he also got off John Edwards in his case.
Uh not easy cases to win either time.
And uh, I guess the problem now for Menendez is that Abby Lowell is representing Hunter Biden.
I'm not sure Abby would be available to do both cases, but you know, you gotta factor in a great attorney, you know, in any case, don't you?
Yeah, you do.
Uh, but I'm not even sure that Abby Lowell, as good as he is, can get around the incriminating evidence.
And, you know, today Bob Menendez, you know, claimed he withdrew the four hundred and eighty thousand in cash from his personal savings account.
I I hope he has the withdrawal slips and monthly statements proving it, but I doubt he does, since the fingerprints and the DNA of his co-defendant was on some of the envelopes that was stashed in his clothing at his home.
The gold bars, well, the serial numbers, according to prosecutors show they also came from a co-defendant.
Uh, and and I would assume that records will show the luxury Mercedes was purchased by two of the co-defendants, not Menendez or his wife.
And finally, you've got these voicemail messages and texts recited in the indictment that incriminate both husband and wife, showing these expensive gifts and cash came from their schemes.
They're even sending uh thank you notes to the uh co-defendants and delivery men.
So, you know, I tend to doubt that their flimsy excuses are this time gonna sell to a Jury, especially if and when one or more of the others uh decide to flip against uh Menendez and his wife and incriminate them by becoming witnesses for the prosecution.
All right, so you you have Menendez holding this pressure today, pretty much echoing the I'm innocent and this is all happening because I'm I'm Hispanic.
Uh AOC is probably the first of many uh that wants him to resign.
Other Democrats have stayed quiet, you know, but uh you know the articles are very, very clear, Jordan, and what they're laying out in terms of the the indictment here is you know, Menendez was the key to access to what was billions of dollars in U.S. aid, and of course, the really scary and frightening and chilling allegation that he might have been passing on highly sensitive information uh in exchange for money to, you know, uh a foreign country.
Yeah, and that's why it should all be investigated.
And again, it's he'll have his day in court.
Abby Lowell did take the case, by the way.
So this will be second time.
It's been a pretty busy time for him in Washington, D.C. uh to be a Democrat defense attorney, but like you said, Shot, so he's got Hunter and he's decided to represent Menendez again.
Those kind of attorneys don't usually take cases they think they're just going to lose from the top.
He's been through this before, a pretty serious version of this before with Menendez once, and Menendez also won re-election.
Uh, that's not Abby up to Abby.
Abby got you know, got the charges beat back uh the defence.
But I do do think I agree with Greg.
I mean, if you actually look at these charges, as I said, they seem very serious.
It would seem like this would be a pretty easy case to bring in court.
So we'll see.
I mean, d is the evidence actually there.
Is it as clear as the U.S. attorney made it out to be?
I mean, that's going to be up to them.
I I just think for all of us right now, we've been very suspicious, right, of how this DOJ has made decisions, about the timing of of this DOJ's decisions.
And if we're going to say that about how they treat Republicans, I think we have to say that about how they treat any politicians, especially those who they have crossed ways with when it comes to Middle East policy.
And and Menendez has been one of those Democrats that are the issue of supporting Israel, and of course Egypt gets involved there.
And on the Iran issue, he's he's stood alone, or with just a handful of other Democrats that is that is actually voted against those deals and against uh uh nuclear deals with Iran, and we know that issue is back on the table again.
He's been authored in the side to the same people who are this administration running their forward policy, which is again why you you see Abby Lowell taking his defense, even with the Hunter trial going on.
I mean it's very busy time for him, a good time to be part of his team.
And uh and uh but it's at the same time, if these charges are simple and as clear as they are, like Greg laid out, this is gonna be pretty easy to convicted court.
How is it gonna be different for Abby Lowell this time, Greg?
I mean, a good attorney can only get you so far, but as you were laying out the evidence that the prosecution's putting out there, it seems you know, pretty wide and pretty deep and and pretty significant.
I mean, how do you get a how I know you only need one juror if it's a jury w when it's a jury trial, but that's still hard to get.
You gotta get that one person.
Yeah, the f the the first uh accusations in the first trial uh that ended in a hung jury.
I mean, that was kid stuff compared to this latest indictment.
That one involved a lot of the money were were campaign contributions, and that's always tricky for prosecutors.
And the quid pro quo wasn't cash uh personally to Menendez, but rather, you know, perks and other benefits, um, not cash.
Th this time it's cold hard cash, and it's you know, thirteen gold bars and Mercedes, mortgage payments, pricey furniture, other compensation.
And i you would think that Menendez would have learned his lesson.
I mean, he was a l lucky guy to avoid prison in that other bribery trial six years ago.
He beat the rap, not because he was innocent or uh not guilty, but only because the jury was hung, so the judge was forced to declare a mistrial.
And and then Menendez was rebuked by the ethics panel in the Senate, a formal severe admonition, uh admonishment, I should say, but but only after he paid back the alleged bribes, which was the equivalent of admitting guilt to the Senate.
Uh, you know, the panel said he disgraced the United States Senate, and yuck Chuck Schumer puts him back as head of the powerful foreign relations committee, which is truly mind boggling.
Menendez has always been known as the crookedest member of the U.S. Senate.
You put him on one of the most important committees, foreign relations dealing uh with some of America's adversaries and and you know foreign allies.
And that's just foolhardy.
All right, quick break more with Greg Jarrett and Jordan Secular on the other side.
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Alright we continue now Greg Jarrett, Fox News Legal Analyst and Jordan Seculo, executive director for the American Center for Law and Justice talking about Bob Menendez.
You look at this and you compare this to Joe Biden and what I'm calling the Joe Biden um bribery of money laundering scandal allegations, Jordan Seculo.
And you know everybody keeps saying there's no evidence.
Well explain to me is Joe Biden then why did he lie repeatedly as a candidate and as a president that he never discussed these things with his son.
How come that evolved into he never did business with his son?
How did that evolve into he never got any money from his son?
Uh why all the shell corporations why were nine Biden family members paid massive amounts of money both Nancy Mace and James Comer on this program last week said that that that they think this money just for the Bidens alone is going to exceed and be north of fifty million dollars.
You know and the grandchildren I'd like to know what the grandchildren did to get paid whatever sums of money they got.
Well what did Hunter what was he able to provide?
What about the timeline when Joe leveraged the billion dollars of of loan guarantees and five days before Hunter's on the phone uh with Barisma executives next to him in Dubai calling his dad those five days before Joe leveraged that money.
Doesn't that timeline seem pretty damning to you?
Yeah, I mean, I think what you would say is the Bides are better at doing this.
I mean, you wouldn't say it's any less legal or more illegal, but they've set up, again, like you said, they have their shell companies.
There's people in between.
It's not just Joe and his wife, the first lady.
You've got brothers.
You've got family members.
You've got grandkids.
You've got other companies, the LLCs, and other people taking the cash and not taking it directly.
And where Benitez is in trouble is the photos kind of show.
the wads of cash, the gold bars.
get the idea that you know he's from an older generation you have more cash around and I even talked to some people on our team who said yeah I've got grandparents have some uh couple hundred thousand dollars still at their house.
Uh and and it that's not so unusual for some generations.
But again, with your Bob Benendez, you've already been through this one time before.
I think the what do you would compare the difference between him and the Biden team is the Biden's are smarter, do you?
It just makes no sense, does it?
That you know, especially I barely skated out of the last trial.
And you know, then to have that a massive amount of money and and gold bars and then the connection to the people that he was dealing with is is seems to run very deep based on what we're hearing, correct?
Yes, I it is it is shocking it is kind of shocking that you find Benediz back in this situation and it is a little suspicious, uh, just because uh it it also means they never really stopped investigating him.
So even when they're the mistrial was declared, it feels like they were still on him, and that might be again for for purely uh you know legitimate reasons.
They're gonna be able to prove that I I think it's either gonna be a very easy case in court again, or they're gonna get tied up in the politics and and and have it you know another tough time.
We'll see if Medinez uh survives yet again.
I wouldn't have thought he was gonna survive last time uh this happened, and I didn't think he'd survive politically.
He he beat the legal system and he and he won re-election.
So I you know, I'd never count these guys out, but you do wonder it's like they never learned their lesson.
Well, because your dad's one of the top five of my on my list, I think probably on Greg Jarrett's list, uh, you've got big shoes to fill there one day.
So I'm just I'm just not putting pressure on you, anything.
No pressure.
No, not at all.
All right, Jordan Seculo, Greg Jarrett, thank you both.
All right, well, let's just go over a little bit of the highlights of uh Biden's gas from last week.
For one day, for one day, my administration, the United States has treated this crisis as an existential threat from the moment we took office.
not only for us but for all of humanity now even as we evolve our institutions and drive created new partnerships let me be clear Certain principles of our international system are sacrose accompanied by the director general of the international labor organization.
President Biden can agree again.
Yes, good.
No nation can be truly secure in the world if in fact we don't stand up and defend the freedom of Ukraine from the face of this Russian brutality and aggression.
We finally beat Big Farmer.
I've been fighting it since I've been a friend freshman.
I mean, a hell of a week for Joey, your president.
Just uh one hell of a week.
Anyway, he appears to praise the wrong congressional caucus during his speech.
He praises the the black congressional caucus when he's speaking to the Hispanic Congressional Caucus.
Uh whoopsie Daisy.
And then uh I'm not sure exactly what was going on in Joe's head.
Uh I doesn't kind of everybody know who uh LL Cool J is because he calls him LLJ Cool.
I mean, even the crowd starts laughing.
Listen to this.
They echo what my dad taught me.
And I mean this sincerely.
My dad is saying everyone, everyone is entitled to be treated with dignity and respect.
The Congressional Back Caucus embodies all those values.
The two of the great artists of our time representing the groundbreaking legacy of hip-hop in America.
L L J cool Jay.
Uh by the way, that boy's got that man's got biceps bigger than my thighs.
I think he's anyway.
Uh yeah, that's why I think so many Democrats are just full-on panicked.
You know, Jar S Joe Scarborough has been critical of late of his cognitive you know, mess of a state that he's in.
I mean, and then you know, telling the same story not once but twice within a five-minute time span.
Okay, when I've met people in my life that have dementia or Alzheimer's or significant cognitive decline, that that's what they tend to do.
They tell a story, and then they'll repeat the story in Joe's case, almost word for word, and not remember that they had just told that story.
Or you or they'll ask you a question, and and three minutes later they'll ask you the same question, not realizing you just answered that question.
Again, it's not pretty.
It's it's not something I'd wish on anybody, but you know, it is a reality and this is the hardest job in the world, and that's something that impacts all of us.
Anyway, let's get to our phones.
The free state of Florida, Sandy, Sandy, how are you?
By the way, we made our announcement uh earlier today that uh the debate between your governor and Gavin Newsom is on the red state versus blue state big debate.
Uh what are your thoughts?
How do you like the idea?
I think it's awesome.
I really do.
I can't wait to watch it.
I think it's gonna be must see TV.
I mean think of it the they they've been you know sniping at each other behind the scenes.
I'm like, let's bring this public.
Let's have it out and I get to be the moderator and sit there.
That that's you know it's gonna be absolutely amazing.
And I think that's why he's going um to watch the debate when it's oh no he's definitely going to watch the debate.
Yeah definitely so I think he's gonna be taking notes and using whatever he can to spin during the debate with you.
Uh it's look it's DeSantis, red state, blue state California you can't have more distinct differences in terms of governing philosophy and I would argue results.
And you know let's see how this plays out.
It's gonna be entertaining I'll tell you that.
I think it's gonna be interesting, informative, everything you'd want in a debate.
So anyway, what's on your mind today?
Well what's on my mind well I was watching the news this morning um with Menendez now I I almost think that that was a warning to Joe Biden.
Like listen yeah I could have flipped on you or maybe he was going to flip on him because everything is a mirror image of what Hunter and Joe are doing and Menendez and his wife are doing it's all mirror.
They also collaborated together on a lot of issues and things so and then Hunter and him both have the same attorney is that so nobody could see the evidence that links all those families together I mean think about that.
Listen I I think the allegations are getting so bad against Joe Biden and his family and the family syndicate it's just now a matter of time.
That we have sixty one percent according to a more recent poll of the American people now beginning to understand fully that Joe Biden lied to them and that Joe Biden was up to his eyeballs in this you know foreign access uh scheme with with Hunter and I think it it goes way beyond that.
The the sheer amount of money the sheer amount of lying the sheer amount of of efforts to cover their their tracks with these show companies is breathtaking.
Tens of millions of dollars okay what did any one of those people do for that money?
Because none of them had any background or experience to to get paid the kind of money we're talking about and admittedly Hunter and then with the new information that I discussed earlier today I mean it's it's so damning I I mean I I I honestly at this point I don't know how they survived this.
Well maybe they were selling paper.
There were open boxes in the garage there uh Penn State I mean how how many people had access to all those files and they still have files there.
They still have files there.
They said they can't remove them.
Why not?
They removed them from Trump's house.
Trump was you know locking them up exactly how they told him to do he followed the letter this is what he has two or three years to go through all this stuff.
Every president has two or three years to go through all the boxes and gather their personal effects and then return the stuff back to the people listen I I mean it the the the double standard couldn't be any more clear.
And the oddest part is that the FBI had already been to Mar a Lago, been in the room where most of these documents were found and could have taken everything they wanted with them and they didn't do it.
Why not?
I know they told them to put another lock on there.
The reason why is because they probably couldn't find some documents that they needed.
You know, all we know.
I mean, there could be so many different things.
This this web that the Biden family, well, actually, the Democratic family, that is the mom family, has weaved this web that has captivated all the Democrats.
That's why they're all in Locktack.
Because they all have each other's back.
If you watch Um Dingleberry, whatever her name is, um in Wisconsin, saying about, oh, but everybody does that.
No, not everybody does that.
Just your circle of people does that.
Listen, I think that the walls are gotten much tighter based on this new information.
And if you're just joining us, I'll go over what I went through the last hour.
But anyway, we really send it.
We appreciate your call.
God bless you down in the free state of Florida.
But now this missing witnesses, we have referred to them in the past.
Uh a guy by the name of Gal Luft.
Uh, and this has everything to do with the Biden, Joe Biden bribery and money laundering uh corruption allegations.
Now now finally has brought new evidence to this impeachment inquiry about an FBI mole that tipped off Hunter Biden that his Chinese partners have been named in on four sealed indictments in 2017 by New York City federal prosecutors,
the Southern District of New York, and the Israeli uh professor, former Israeli defense force officer, has been on the run six months after skipping bail in Cyprus, where he was awaiting extradition to the U.S. on gun running and foreign lobbying charges, you know, also brought by the SDNY.
But anyway, in an open letter to Representative Comer, Jim Smith, and Jason Smith, the three House committee chairman running this impeachment inquiry, Luft claims that the tip-off to the Chinese executives of the their oil conglomerate, CEFC,
came on the exact same day that the first son, Hunter, wrote that infamous WhatsApp message shaking down, you know, the CEFC for for what ended up being five million dollars sent within a week uh over highly quote confidential and and time-sensitive matter while claiming you know his father was in the room.
Remember, I'm sitting here with my father.
We'd like to understand why the commitment made has not been fulfilled.
Uh, he goes on to say, and by the way, this message presented to Congress in June during the testimony of IRS whistleblower Gary Shapley, quote, I will make certain that between the man sitting next to me, that would be Joe Biden, your president, and every person he knows, and my ability to forever hold a grudge that you will regret not following my direction.
I'm sitting here waiting for the call with my father.
Later that night, the executive at CEFC, Patrick Ho, who was staying in a uh hotel in New York City, received an urgent call from the CEFC president who told him to leave the U.S. immediately, according to Luft, who you know speaks to Ho regularly.
The next day he flew out to Hong Kong where he remained for four months.
You know, and anyway, Zhao told Hunter in a follow-up, what's that message?
Oh, the CEFC is willing to cooperate with the family.
He thinks now the priority is to solve the problem mentioned last night.
And Luft believes the problem in highly confidential and time-sensitive manner was the SDNY, the Southern District of New York indictments, which would make sense within nine days of that WhatsApp message.
Yeah, the CEFC wired $5.1 million to entities in the U.S. uh to train transfer to Hunter Biden.
Wow.
Sitting here with my father.
If I knew that would work, I'd use that every day.
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Uh let's go to the uh Buckeye State.
Let's go to Sarah, Ohio.
Hey, Sarah, how are you?
Hi, I'm good.
Um, my question for you is I have always tried to put myself in the other person's shoes.
So I'm trying to figure out what the real end game was with all of these charges on Donald Trump.
If he is found guilty of everything, then what?
Like he can't go to prison.
He has circuit service agency and the former president and foreign policies would be horrible.
So are they gonna put him on house arrest?
Which house?
In which country should he be housed in on house arrest?
So pretty much the next president's gonna pardon him, and all of our tax dollars are spent for nothing.
Oh, I have no doubt that the pardon's coming.
You know, Joe apparently last week expressed fear that he may not survive long enough with this Hunter investigation, according to one report.
I look, I don't know what's gonna happen.
All I know is the obvious is that the walls are closing in the evidence is now overwhelming against this family, and the corruption is being exposed more every day.
Yeah, but what were were they trying to get Trump not to run this term?
Or because now I feel like they they were counting two and now they don't know what to do because it's got out of control.
Well, I I just think that the impeachment inquiries gotta be fair, it's gotta be thorough.
And it, you know, one of the next things that's gonna happen is they gotta start they they gotta subpoena the president, and they gotta, you know, get Hunter Biden uh to testify.
And to me, those are very important things that they gotta do.
It's that simple.
Thank you very much.
I appreciate you.
All right, appreciate the call, Sarah.
Glad you're with us.
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