Illegal Immigrants in Chicago - September 22nd, Hour 2
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We've never seen anything this bad in our life.
Grand total.
Now we'll we probably under Joe Biden, three years in office, we'll be at eight million illegal immigrants in this country.
No background checks, so to speak.
In Eagle Pass, the mayor warns of migrant chaos that's totally engulfing the city.
You know, we've seen robberies, they've broken into homes.
And I think the biggest story comes out of the city of New York and the state of New York.
And it's pretty amazing.
It's pretty remarkable that the governor, Kathy Hokel, you know, we we really need to stop the incoming illegal immigrants.
This is unsus uh sustainable.
Uh okay, that that's nice.
Uh however, she f originally called the migrant crisis a great opportunity we have before us.
Listen to that first.
We're pleading, saying this is a great opportunity here in the state of New York to solve two problems.
How to help these people get on their feet and support their families.
And my God, who in this city has not come from somewhere else, their family.
That's what happens in one generation.
One generation.
People's lives are transformed, they're changed.
That is the story of New York.
And let us have the power to give that same right, that same opportunity to people to say, yes, you're part of our family.
We welcome you.
And you're gonna help us get through a crisis.
The shortage of workers, we can solve for it.
And that is the great opportunity we have before us today.
Because New York City has had this pulled as 40-year-old right to shelter.
People have come to New York City, and that's another area.
The mayor and I need to look at this together, and we are looking at it and trying to figure out a way that we can say this was intended to help homeless people stay off the streets, help families, but it was never intended to be an unlimited universal right and obligation to shelter the entire world.
And that's the way it's been interpreted.
So once that gets fixed, as well as this opportunity to get the Venezuelans to work, it should take a lot of pressure off, but we really need to stop the incoming.
We're still seeing about 3,000 a week.
That's absolutely unsustainable.
We're working so hard, spending millions of dollars, state dollars to build shelters to house 3,000 here, 2,000 here, 1,000 here.
It's still not enough.
So the word has to get out that New York is always been that place of welcoming immigrants.
All of us came from somewhere.
Our parents didn't grandparents, but there is a limit to who we can house at this time, and we need the rest of the country to step up.
But most importantly, it starts at the border with enforcement.
Oh, it starts at the border.
You she's the very same person along with Mayor Adams that were welcoming.
You know, people to the great state of New York.
Uh, you know, all of a sudden, the right to shelter, 40-year law, New York.
Now all of a sudden they're seeing the light.
Now they want to get rid of it.
Now that we have eight million and hundreds of thousands are landing in in New York State, 40,000 per illegal immigrant.
The the estimated cost.
The mayor in New York City saying it it likely will be just for the city alone, 12 billion dollars in 18 months that they're gonna spend on illegal Immigrants.
Oh, what a sh what a what a shocking observation.
Now that it actually they've gotten what they wanted and what they said they wanted and the ideal that they stood for, and you know, the the criticism Republicans took for not sharing that view that we ought to have open borders were with just you know repulsive and ostracized.
Boy, how quickly her t tone has turned.
Uh now she has doubled down on the end of New York's uh right to shelter law.
It is creating an untenable situation.
Anyway, with us, Gian O'Caldwell, Fox News political analyst, author of the best seller taken for granted how conservatism can win back the Americans that liberalism failed.
Sarah Carter is with us, Fox News investigative reporter.
She's been on the ground, you know, reporting for this show and for my TV show.
I can't even probably well over a hundred times at this point, and she's seen it all up close firsthand.
Sarah, let's let's start with you.
Uh as as bad as as two thousand I'm sorry, twenty twenty was Joe Biden's or twenty twenty-one, as bad as that year was, twenty twenty-two was worse.
Now twenty twenty-three is even worse.
And this is what we're seeing right now is the worst it's ever been.
And you've been there, you've seen it, and and I love the fact that it you know, it's not it's not Governor Abbott that's sending the illegal immigrants to New York.
Most of those illegal immigrants, some eighty seven percent were sent by Joe Biden.
Well, absolutely, absolutely, and you brought up just such a great point right there, Sean, because I think that's what the American people really need to understand, and I know all of your listeners do understand this.
This border is open because of President Biden.
This is Biden's policy.
And not only that, there are people within the government and outside of the government and private services and in NGOs, a non-governmental organizations that are making millions off of this.
I mean, we've allocated so much money just for fiscal year 2023, the Department of Homeland Security is going to be providing 363.8 million dollars of available funds to nonfederal entities, and it's gonna just to take care of the migrant arrivals that are coming into communities.
And I want people to put this into perspective.
That's just DHS.
That doesn't even include the over 700 million dollars that's been allocated through FEMA, money that's going to non-governmental organizations in cities like El Paso and other places across the country where they need to put people in beds and they need to house them for winter, and they have to put children into schools and you know, and then they have to take care of their health care.
And I mean, I just imagine it's an implosion of humanity.
And to top it off, and we've reported this so much on your show, Sean.
I mean, you've been one of the few, the few that has actually told the truth about what is happening at the border.
The humanitarian crisis, all of the children that have lost their lives on this horrific journey to America, a journey that should be done legally with the law.
Our government is not following the law.
President Biden is breaking the law.
And I agree with Stephen Miller and everybody else who says, I mean, he is running the biggest trafficking organization on the planet, and he is working side by side with the drug cartels and the human traffickers because he will not shut down that border.
And now we see with Governor Abbott and what's happening at our border and the thousands of people that are pouring into our country.
We don't even know where they're from.
We don't even know how to do background checks on them.
I've got immigration and customs enforcement officers telling me they're gonna retire, that they're ready to leave because nobody is allowing them to do their job, and they don't want to be responsible for the next 9-11 or something, frankly, far worse.
Well, I think it's now pretty much inevitable.
I think there's enough people on the terror watch list that they caught uh and those that they didn't vet at all.
I mean, they they have no knowledge or background on anybody, maybe radical associations they have.
Uh so we know terror cells are emerging in America.
Yeah, plotting, planning, scheming, uh, their next 911.
But, you know, Gianno, it's also, let's see, you get free food, uh, clothing, housing, uh, health care, education, transportation, all compliments of the the taxpayers.
I love this.
Now there's gonna be an the New York State Democrats are pushing uh for an illegal immigration uh fund tax.
I mean, how much of this is how much of this will the American people take?
How impactful will this be on the 2024 election?
Well, I think, especially in Democrat towns like Chicago, for example, which you've seen 13,000 migrants arrive.
Oh, wait a minute, wait a minute.
In Chicago, didn't they just throw them out and send them to the suburbs?
Well, there's still a many of them that are still within the city of Chicago.
But yes, uh, the mayor came up with a plan to try to send many of those migrants into the suburbs, but there's a lot of migrants that are still in Chicago, especially places like the south side of Chicago, where black residents have argued and said, Look, you bring in folks in here.
We don't know who they are, they got this at it.
We they're coming into our community, some of them are committing crimes, uh, some of them are beating up our people, and there's a disrespectful action to have all of these folks come from all over the world into the city of Chicago, but you won't take care of the homeless population that has been there for years and years and years.
This is what the black residents in the city of Chicago have been saying.
And when we talk about the crime numbers, we already know the city of Chicago is in a crime crisis.
Just this year long, we see a 42% increase in uh robbery victimization.
17% increase in aggravated battery victimization.
We see a 12% increase in all violent crime, and the numbers are set in terms of the shooting set to overtake what happened last year, just this year alone.
We're only in September.
So they're already dealing with a lot.
You guys Chicago that they call a sanctuary city for years.
Meanwhile, there's no sanctuary for the people who live there, who are being murdered in drove daily.
They don't have sanctuary, they don't have peace.
And now you're prioritizing this other group of people who are coming there.
And of course, we see city officials who are somewhat trying to push back, whether it be in New York, uh, Chicago, or any of these liberal cities, they've called themselves Sanctuary City, and now they're being exposed, Sean, right?
They're being exposed because they pretended to care.
It sounds good to say we have a sanctuary city when you don't have anybody, many people in there to take care of, but now that you're seeing your budgets are being drained.
Uh your the people that you rely on to put you in office every year are upset.
On our hands that ha has to impact the election next year.
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An unmitigated disaster at the southern border.
Even New York now wants to get rid of these outdated laws right to shelter.
Uh the ones that the governor and the mayor of New York City uh just fully supported and have done very little or nothing to fix it.
Uh now they're against them.
Now they're actually saying this is wrong.
Go to some other place.
Wow.
How welcoming.
By the way, Gianno, next week in Chicago, the House Judiciary Committee is holding hearings.
Uh you know, we've been scrolling the names of people shot, shot, and killed every single week.
Names you've never heard of.
Why is it we never hear of the names?
I've been scrolling these names on television since 2009.
Nobody recognizes any of the names.
But that's kind of the point because Democrats have not lifted a finger.
Biden Obama in all those years, they were president and vice president.
Lidn lift a finger to stop the crime in in Chicago.
Uh and and it and yet the only time we hear about any type of you know, police activities is if they can politicize it, oh, they'll politicize it.
Um anyway, it's just insane, and we look forward to your testimony on that issue.
But it kind of dovetails into this too, because you know, you mentioned something that no very few people seem to be talking about, Sarah, and that is the national security risk here.
Uh I've talked to people at the border that work on the border, Tom Homan, who you've partnered with and so many others, that they're saying it is a known fact.
They've even now later, after the fact identified uh people on the terror watch list that that were allowed into this country.
Yeah, I can tell you, Sean, you know, I've talked to senior government officials while I'm here in Washington, DC, and I'm talking senior government officials who are absolutely concerned about this right now.
They they know that they we have intercepted people from Al Qaeda, people connected to ISIS, people connected to our adversaries like China.
Um I have heard of, you know, uh the FBI investigating uh migrants who are inside the United States right now, um, who have been actually actively spying at some of our installations.
I mean, we have really made ourselves susceptible to our adversaries and to our enemies.
And this is a national security disaster of the biggest magnitude.
Um I was asking someone the other night, and I I would disclose their name as uh I eventually will.
I mean, I have to ask permission first, but somebody very senior in our government, you know, how serious are they taking this concern?
I mean, because we're watching this as Americans and we're wondering, well, who's gonna shut that down?
Who's gonna shut this border down?
And they said it is so serious that it's not a matter of if we will be attacked, it's a matter of when.
That is how serious our government believes it is now.
I mean, the heightened concern, it's red alert for them.
It's red alert.
And the fact that our commander in chief, President Biden, has decided that this is his policy really has to give people pause.
Why would the president of the United States of America or his administration, people like Lisa Monaco, who are working with him and others in the administration, that very well know how dangerous this situation is.
Why would they continue to allow it to happen when their only job is to prevent it from happening?
And that I think is the biggest question out there.
That is the question that has not been answered.
That is the question that they have refused to answer it, even when Peter Ducy has gone up there at the White House press and is asked, you know, Corinne Jean-Pierre, this question.
They don't answer it.
They gaslight the American public and they lie about it.
Um and I tell you this, um, that is gonna be a shocking day.
Um and that'll be the day that somebody's gonna when when something happens in this country that somebody will have to answer for this.
Um but unfortunately I feel like you know it's gonna require um somebody new in the White House to put a stop to this before it does happen.
Um and I, you know, and some people say there's it's probably inevitable right now.
The border's been open now.
We're looking at over ten million people, according to um Congressman Andy Biggs, that's his new estimate that he's received from DHS, um, over ten million uh after the Biden administration uh ends or in twenty twenty-four after his first four years.
Anyway, uh appreciate both of you.
Great reporting from the border, and we'll look uh forward to you, Giano testifying before the Judiciary Committee next week, and we'll get an update from you on that.
For those that don't know, Gianno Calwell lost his little brother, uh shot and killed in Chicago.
And uh frankly, his story, you know, would break the heart of everybody.
The the lack of urgency, concern, uh communication, it's it's breathtaking.
It's it's pathetic.
It's so you know, uh it just it angers me to my core at how callous they can be.
Uh we'll look forward to that Tuesday, next week.
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All right, Vince, Kansas City on a Friday.
Vince, how are you?
Glad you called, sir.
Uh the reason I wanted to call in, uh I listen to your show as often as I can.
I think you're great at what you do.
Um because you give a voice to so many people that that just cannot stand what is taking place right now.
Um there are a lot of people that do not understand the dynamics, the political dynamics of Washington, DC, and listening to people claim that Trump will get fair trial, quote unquote.
I've lived and worked in and around Washington, DC for about 29 years now.
Now I live in Kansas City, but I work remote in that same area.
There is no chance of him getting any fair trial.
I think DC votes about 92 percent Democrat every year with their with their voting power.
And they're talking about trying to say, well, we need a new venue.
Well, where would you go?
Uh out into Virginia into what?
Uh you know, Fairfax County, you know, P.W. County, Loudoun County, which is the mother's ship for everything in Virginia.
And you can't possibly go into Virginia.
I mean, if Rundle wouldn't give him a fair trial, Montgomery certainly wouldn't go to PG County.
There is no place within a two or three mile, I'm sorry, two or three hour drive of DC where he would get anywhere near close to a fair trial.
I can't speak for Georgia, of course, because I've I don't I've never been there.
Um but it would be the same thing for New York.
These uh I don't know why people can't see what's taking place here.
This is just about keeping him off ballots.
That's all this is.
Well, I mean, uh, you know, they're doing the level best.
I mean, there's no other way to put it.
Uh yeah, you know, they've had these cases now for years.
Uh if this was so urgent and so terrible and so awful, uh, why didn't they move faster?
Why didn't they they move three years in early of of 2020?
Here, you know, here we are.
We're heading into 2024, and oh, let's have all these trials in an election year.
That makes a lot of sense.
Look, I would tell you right now, I don't I agree with you, I don't think Donald Trump can get a fair trial in New York or DC or uh frankly, Fulton County, Georgia, for that matter.
Anyway, Joseph in Illinois, Joseph, how are you?
Glad you called.
I'm fine.
How are you?
Good.
What's going on?
Uh thanks for taking my call.
I just I wonder your opinion on something where you thought um with the Democrats, they're doing everything they can to keep Trump from running.
And you know, trying to keep his name off the ballot and everything, and I just I'm just wondering, I I don't know how Trump can actually run with all these court appearances and stuff.
And I was just wondering, what would you think if I don't know if he would do this?
But if he ran for vice president and have someone like Rami Swami run as president to where that way he would still get Trump's votes and they seem to get along, and I think he would do better with the independence than Trump, and he can campaign and everything, to which obviously Trump's not gonna be able to do that later.
And I well, let me ask you a question first.
Do you think the opposition of Trump is because of his policies, personality, or the the outright persecution?
I mean, for example, do you think that they are treating him unfairly under the law?
Do you think the you know the Russia hoax has contributed to an atmosphere in which he's pretty combative defending himself?
But you lied about for three long years on such a spectacular level and conspiracy theories have peddled nightly on on news channels all around the country and newspapers all around the country.
I guess you feel you have to fight back.
Um what do you think it is?
Is it his policies they're against, his personality they're against?
Uh the fat do you think if he is being persecuted really here and not prosecuted?
Uh do you think that he should be punished for that?
I I think his policies are great.
And I think that even the Democrats do, I think it's just it's personality.
They don't like him, they're afraid of him.
He doesn't play along with James, and he's not afraid to say anything.
He does what he wants to do.
And it and it threw and they felt threatened by it, and they don't want that there.
They made that obvious.
Not what they want who they want in office.
And I just think, you know, as unfortunately the Democrats are controlling about everything, and I really do think they're gonna keep him off the ballot.
So I'm gonna well they're certainly trying, although some of those efforts have already, you know, been stopped, and and I don't think they're gonna be successful anywhere with that effort.
However, um, you know, there is a possibility that he could be a very strong possibility, in my opinion, that he's gonna be convicted and running as a convicted felon before he gets a chance to appeal his case before you know that'll happen after the election.
Anyway, appreciate the call, Jeff.
Let's see what happens.
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What's up, Jeff?
How are you?
Glad you called.
Hey, Sean, I'm great.
How are you?
I'm good.
What's happening?
Good.
Hey, Sean, I was cool.
I just really wanted to touch on two points, and uh they're somewhat loosely connected.
You know, one being the Hunter Biden uh gun charges uh versus the tax charges.
You know, while the gun charge lying on your federal application is very serious and you know, glad to see that uh you know he may be held accountable for that.
You know, I think the people really care more about the tax charges.
Um and how he, you know, has been out, he makes all this money uh peddling access to his father and doesn't even pay taxes on it.
I really think that sticks with the American people a lot more than the gun charge.
You know, and secondly That's the low-hanging fruit in my view.
Yeah, yeah.
No, you're you're probably right.
I don't know if we'll ever see uh you know anything further on the the tax charges or not.
But you know, it it reminded me of you know what happened uh early 2022 or later 2022 when New York State actually extended or actually not extended, I don't know what the right term is, but they passed something called the Adult Survivors Act, which allowed people who were victims of uh sexual assault uh where the statute of limitations had expired to bring charges for a period of one year.
They sort of opened that up for one year.
And you know, the speculation is they did that just to get Donald Trump with uh the the woman who had accused him of of raping her in a a department store.
Um so you know, the connection there really in my mind is you know, I know it's uh it'd be difficult to do, but you know, how somehow can we waive these uh the statute of limitations which they let expired?
I you know, the answer is probably not.
And that's why they let it go.
What was so um it was so awful to be very honest with you.
You know, what the things that he's he's been charged with and the allegations that are made and the timing of all this.
You know, I here's the question we're gonna have.
I don't think he's gonna lose his base.
I mean, I think he's proven that over and over again.
He's had four indictments, four arraignments, and you know, he defies all conventional political gravity and his poll numbers go up.
The question is if he gets convicted, how will the American people, the independents, maybe people that don't reliably vote conservative or republic, how are they gonna respond?
Now, they're gonna be looking at an economy in shambles, borders and shambles, the price of energy through the roof, inflation out of control, you know, record high interest rates.
We haven't seen these in decades.
And you know, how are they gonna respond?
And a president that doesn't know what day of the week it is.
That's that's you know, that's probably maybe for some of them it's gonna be tough.
For me, it's not that tough.
You know, assuming hit that he's the nominee.
I mean, you know, all indications are he's got a uh very expansive, you know, lead extensively.
Exactly.
Exactly.
But uh no, I appreciate uh you taking the call and uh I really think that the American people really care more about the tax uh issues with Hunter Biden than the gun charges.
Yeah.
Anyway, I appreciate the call, Jeff.
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So I think this crack me up.
Oh, I spoke to Rush uh and he said to me or us, everybody, uh, that if you ever want to set the Democrats hair on fire, tell them we'll go along with amnesty as long as you guys all sign up saying they could never vote.
Now I think that this is so serious now that somebody's got to come up with a plan besides deporting them.
And I think the only way to do that is to register all of the asylum seekers, let's not use the word amnesty, all the asylum seekers, and make them sign a paper saying they will never vote and have that put on their IDs unless they become a citizen, which they can't become because they're gonna go back to the back of the line.
Unless they join the armed forces and get an honorable discharge.
Let's turn a negative into a positive but we have to wrap our hands around this before they do.
Because I'm telling you right now, any second we're gonna hear we have to let them stay.
Oh no that that I that's all part of the deal.
You know and and everybody's they use a term what is it oh the great replacement theory that that Republicans don't want immigrants because they fear that you know they are people from other countries and and they're not uh uh Western European but it's there's nothing further from the truth.
Let me let me give you my view because I believe all of us are created by the same God, every human being on this earth and we all have a propensity to good or the propensity to evil, right?
So put that in the equation.
I believe in legal immigration.
In other words, I want to make sure you don't have radical background associations.
I want to make sure that in a pandemic yeah you're in good health.
I want to make sure when you get here because we have 33 trillion in debt we can't afford to take care of you which you know we're taking care of all of Biden's eight million illegal immigrants we can't afford it.
It's gonna bankrupt us very quickly it's doing it to New York right now, never mind Texas uh and other border states and uh and then I don't really give a flying rip if you go through the process and you do it legally I don't really care where you come from.
As a matter of fact, welcome to our home and you know I'm glad you're here.
That's my that's that's but there's only a certain number of people we can reasonably take in in any given year.
But there's got to be order and there's got to be law applied and there's got to be a process.
But the people that don't respect our laws or our sovereignty or our borders should not be allowed to stay just because they got in.
Now there are families there are some young people but if you look at the the demographic breakdown you're talking about adult men and I don't even want blame them for wanting to be here.
If I when I went down to the border, I'll never forget.
I was on one side of the border and I was in San Diego.
And, you know, I could see right across the border and right into Mexico.
And they it was like, you know, all these like shanty homes, makeshift homes.
I mean, it was just poverty at a level you never want to see any human being live at.
You know, kids, I noticed they were playing in what looked like a garbage dump to me with old tires and junk and garbage dumps.
They were dumped in it.
That's where they were playing.
That's not that's not a safe place for a child to play.
And, you know, and then on the other side in San Diego, you have multimillion dollar homes.
And I'm like, if I'm over there in poverty and I'm looking across the way and I see all these beautiful homes, I'm thinking that's the land of milk and honey and that's where I'm going to want to go.
And however, what we have to insist on is that people do it legally.
And, Donald, we know how to control the border, just like we know how to prevent crime and and and keep our cities and towns safe and secure, just like we know how to be energy independent and we can be even energy dominant, which this country should do just to pay off our national debt.
We know how to defend, you know, defend ourselves with a strong mean, the toughest, meanest, you know, army with the latest, greatest, most advanced technology on the face of the earth.
We can fix all these problems.
They're all self-induced by Joe Biden and his.
his you know extreme climate alarmist religious cultism that drives most of his decisions well I got a question for you Sean do you really think it's realistic to think that we could just say if somebody was elected who we love to say okay you all got to go back.
Yes I do.
Oh wow that's well that's I If I if I ran for president, I would I would make that promise and I would follow through on it.
And I would be criticized, you know, every single day of the week.
I think presidents should run with the attitude that they're just gonna get the job done, you know, and and just try and get everything done in four years.
You can run for re-election, but if you don't get it, who get it, who cares?
It's not a job I'd want.
I'll tell you right now.
I'll be okay with it.
Well, uh I'm just telling you, they're gonna end up voting.
They'll they'll end up with amnesty, something of great value.
Uh, and be rewarded for not obeying our laws and sovereignty.
It's really that simple.
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