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Yes, Donald Trump is in the courtroom from arraignment.
And you know, if I see any more videos, Donald Trump has entered his car.
We followed Donald Trump to the airport.
We follow his plane to through takeoff.
We follow the landing.
We follow the trip to the courthouse.
The only thing missing is cameras in the courtroom, which would be, I think, worthwhile to see.
But you know, uh what is even more fascinating is what came out earlier today, and that we have been going over in great specificity and detail.
And what is now a real scandal, it's even a cancer now that is engulfing the entire Joe Biden administration, and that are is the very real Joe Biden bribery allegations and the scandal surrounding all of this and all this new information.
Um I frankly think that that Republican House members uh since they have released the the transcribe deposition as of early this morning.
I I think they underplayed the importance and the revelations in all of this.
Uh he was there at the time.
He is the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee.
He is the great Ohio Congressman, Jim Jordan is with us now.
Sir, how are you?
Fine, Sean.
Good to be with you, brother.
What do you think of the clown show and the media mob?
You know, I have some statistics.
This may surprise you.
So in the course of literally, I mean, this is pretty amazing.
More Liberal Morning Joe.
They mentioned Donald Trump's name 70 times in one hour.
One hour.
Now, on the day that you had Devin Archer in your in the Oversight Committee, fake news CNN and MSDNC flooded the airway airwaves, not about what was going on in your committee.
No.
Between 6 a.m. and 4 PM, fake news CNN and MSDNC made a combined 759 mentions of Donald Trump, yet only mentioning Devin Archer 48 times.
I mean, you can't make this up, how just corrupt and abusively biased our news media is, but anyway, glad to have you back.
Let's get your general impressions about what went on uh Monday when you had Devin Archer in the House Oversight Committee.
If I if I could, Tom, first to what you just described.
This is why after today, the 54-7 polling numbers for President Trump in the primary are only gonna get more.
They're only gonna go higher.
I I think his support is going to harden, and I think it's going to expand.
You saw Monday, it was he was dead even in a New York Times poll, dead even with Joe Biden in the general election.
So that tells me he's probably ahead.
That I think his support only gets stronger based on what you just described, because the country gets it.
People out here in the Midwest in Flower Country get the fact that they've been out to get President Trump since day one, and they've been out to get him because he's fighting for us.
He's doing what he said he would do when he was in the White House.
That's the key.
And then to not cover what took place uh Monday in that in that transcribed interview with Mr. Archer, and to not cover just uh the sham of the the agreement they tried to get through the court a week ago.
Uh again I think that just underscores how out of touch the mainstream press is from where real America is.
I think that's r really well said uh but if there was any doubt uh I think all doubt is removed and that is that Devin Archer confirmed that Joe Biden was a regular and active participant in Hunter Biden's farm business dealings and had full knowledge of it.
This is an exact quote from Devin Archer uh and was aware of all of Hunter's business businesses and met with on a regular basis with Hunter's business partners and it seems seemed that his role as the brand was the brand certainly wasn't Hunter Biden.
I mean his brand was at the time admittedly according we learned last week that he was addicted to crack at the time and you know had a well let's just say a proclivity towards women of the night and and like to hire prostitutes so it certainly wasn't his brand but the the brand was Joe Biden.
Yep.
Yeah Devin Archer was clear about that the value Hunter Biden bought to the business arrangement was the Biden brand the Biden brand being Joe Biden and you know influential guy in in American uh uh government so yeah I I I do think you start looking at how that how it all stacks up.
So remember, we had Bob Alinsky two and a half years ago say the email 10% for the big guy.
The big guy was Joe Biden.
The email from the laptop that the FBI knew was real but wouldn't tell us, wouldn't confirm that it was real at the time.
And then you had the WhatsApp message where Hunter Biden sitting beside his dad telling a foreigner in China, hey, send the money now.
We need the money.
The guy sitting beside me was basically a threat, kind of a shakedown type of email.
Then you have the 1023 form that Senator Grassley released with a confidential human source outlining what he outlined there.
And then, of course, you have it all kind of come together with Devin Archer's testimony where he talked about.
And the key takeaway from me, Sean, we talked about this the other night.
Key takeaway was this meeting December 4th, 2015 in Dubai, where the two guys from Burisma are with Archer and Biden.
And they say, hey, we need the government and United States government to help us deal with the pressure we are under from the prosecutor.
We need help from D.C. Wasn't that the line?
Help from D.C. And the next thing you know, five days later, Joe Biden goes to Ukraine and gets to speak.
And he criticizes the prosecutor in Ukraine and begins to lay the groundwork for what later happened, something you've talked about a lot, right?
Joe Biden says he did.
I think we're losing Jim Jordan.
We may have to reconnect with him.
And there's a lot of revelations in all of this.
I mean, you go back to this meeting that Jim Jordan's referring to.
This is when in Dubai they they have a dinner.
The dinner is followed up by drinks.
And at the time, this is where the head of Burisma and other top Burisma officials are saying, hey, we basically the request is.
Can D.C. help us?
And remember, Devin Archer took it a step further.
He said Burisma, in all likelihood, would have gone bankrupt.
If it wasn't for the actions of Joe Biden.
Anyway, that's set in motion just a few days later, Joe Biden traveling to Ukraine.
And while there begins the process of attacking the prosecutor investigating Burisma and his son, Hunter, which led to the moment where Joe himself later bragged about leveraging a billion taxpayer dollars to get that prosecutor fired in six hours.
The prosecutor is fired.
The investigation goes away.
Burisma gets what they paid for.
And the family of Joe Biden.
in this case Hunter personal enrichment at a pretty high level continues.
And by the way if you look at a bribery statute you you don't have to benefit yourself as a as a government official if your family benefits that that it that is within the the the legal standard of the law here.
Anyway do we get Jim Jordan back?
Yeah sorry about that son we're here we're here no in the district in Ohio I apologize.
No no you're you're exactly right and understand we never expected these phone calls where the vice president is put on the phone by his son.
We never expected him to talk about business.
That wasn't the deal the deal was hey guys would you like to say hello to the vice president of the United States can you say hello to my dad that that that's what we you know that's what we expected it to be and that's exactly what Devin Archer talked about during uh during his deposition on Monday.
I think he was extraordinarily upfront and honest.
Now, didn't he get immunity from any further prosecution as it relates to the Biden family?
I don't know.
I do know he's got uh supposedly to report to prison for uh for a I think a 13 month sentence at some point on on a different matter, a different issue, something to deal with uh uh I think an Indian tribe.
Um so I don't know, I don't know the details of that.
What I do know is rules for the deposition were two hours with Republicans, two hours with Democrats, um, and and that's what took place on Monday.
So we had learned earlier from um Peter Schweitzer.
All this got started in 2018.
And I probab I can't even count the number of times I played on radio and TV, Joe Biden at the Council of Foreign Relations, bragging that he leveraged the billion dollars.
Okay, and son of a bee, they fired him, and then his son continued to get enriched.
But what about this Yelina Baterina, uh, this Russian oligarch, former First Lady of Moscow, not only the 3.5 million we originally knew about, and and Peter Schweitzer told us that that she had through her company and Teco uh had invested close to 120 million.
That came out from Devin Archer as well in Rosemont Realty that they were a part of.
Yeah, she was she was a big investor in in that, and that was part of the uh discussion on Monday during again during Mr. Archer's uh interview.
Um maybe most importantly is Miss Batterina was at a dinner vice president, spent the entire dinner there in Georgetown.
It's Cafe Milano there in DC uh back in 2014.
There were two dinners.
Remember, Joe Biden said I had no involvement whatsoever.
Well, he went to two dinners with Hunter Biden, his business partners, and some of the people they were doing business with, like Miss Batterina, who's the wealthiest woman in Russia, former mayor of uh of Moscow.
So again, that's not consistent with what Joe Biden told us when he ran for the job back in 2028.
You know, uh it's it's it's it's pretty fairly breathtaking to me.
Based on what we know now, and and based on the the the treatment of Donald Trump, you know, Hillary Clinton had top secret classified information.
Uh she deleted 33,000 subpoenaed emails, she destroyed devices.
Nothing happened, no reasonable prosecutor or prosecute.
Joe Biden had top secret classified documents going back to his Senate days in four separate locations.
Neither the Clintons or the the Bidens get raided.
So you you've got all these cases going against one after another after another.
Now this goes to the heart of what you're investigating in the Judiciary Committee.
Yeah.
Is Biden's DOJ protecting the entire Biden family, especially on this issue, while simultaneously persecuting Donald Trump on, you know, basically the the same exact things in many cases that both Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton were guilty of.
Well, it sure looks like they are, because we've not heard one word from Robert Hurr, the special counsel on the Joe Biden classified document issue.
Not heard one thing there, but we did hear from the judge a week ago on the on the crazy plea deal, they tried to sneak past the court where they put the immunity part of the immunity agreement in the diversion part of the uh uh of the of the deal, not in the plea agreement itself.
And the judge says, has this ever happened before?
Is this truly unprecedented?
Yes, it is, Your Honor.
Again, not the defense attorneys that given that answer, the DOJ attorney given that answer in and didn't Merrick Garland have to sign off on that plea deal.
Well, of course, the attorney judged the highest level of the Justice Department, and then maybe the most important, Sean, and I brought this up in the committee hearing a couple weeks ago.
The Justice Department has now changed their story three times.
David Weiss wrote me on June 7th saying I have complete authority to bring charges when I want, where I want, and whether I want to bring them at all.
Then 23 days later on June 30th, he writes me another letter.
I stand by what I wrote, but I want to expand.
I can only bring in my U.S. attorney's district.
Well, which one is it?
You can bring him anywhere you want, when you want, whether you want to bring him, or no, you're limited.
Which one is it?
And what happened in between June 7th, that first letter, and June 30 is that second letter?
The whistleblower's testimony went public.
And we saw what Mr. Shapley said about that meeting that took place in October of 2022, where David Weiss told Mr. Shapley and five other people in that room.
Oh, wait a minute.
If he's saying in the second letter that he didn't have the authority to bring it any place anywhere he wanted, doesn't that mean Merrick Garland lied under oath?
It it it sure looks like that too.
And we know that in the third letter he sends to Senator Graham on July 10th.
So three different letters in a five week time frame.
That third letter on July 10th, he says to clarify the story to clarify, he says I've not sought special counsel status.
I had discussions with the Department of Justice.
Who'd he discuss that with?
Mary Garland?
Who did he talk to with?
I don't know, but we're gonna find out.
That's why we want to talk to David Weiss and eleven other people who were involved in the Hunter Biden um.
So where does this all end up here?
Now we have credible bribery allegations against Joe Biden.
Uh clearly he lied to the American people repeatedly, saying, I never once spoke to my son Hunter, my brother, or anybody for that matter about their foreign business deals.
He said it as a candidate, repeated it often as a president up until two weeks ago when it evolved into uh I never did business, I was never in business with my son.
Yeah.
Now we know he was up to his eyeballs in his son's foreign business dealings.
Now the question is, did Joe Biden do you now see that he likely could have broken criminal statutes?
Well, I I think it where it potentially winds up is exactly where the speaker of the House of Representatives said it might wind up, which is an impeachment inquiry.
And what we have to do, and we've talked about this before, is we have a duty under the Constitution as members of the Congress to do oversight of the executive branch.
We're going to do that.
We're gonna do that in the right way, we're gonna do it in a way consistent with the Constitution.
We're gonna get the facts.
Those of us on the district committee, we're gonna look into what I just talked about, what happened at DOJ relative to the Hunter Fight investigation.
But the speaker has been clear.
If we have to go to an impeachment inquiry, and the evidence keeps piling up, and it looks like that's direction that we're headed, but if we have to go there, the speaker's definitely willing to go there.
And I think that is exactly the approach you're supposed to take in our government under our constitutional system, and I applaud the speaker for saying we're gonna do it the right way if we do it, but it's gonna be driven by the facts.
And again, the fact But it never made sense, did it, that Hunter Biden at the time an admitted addict that with no experience and energy is shaking down through that WhatsApp message the Chinese energy head uh or getting all this money from Barisma Holdings, uh, or trying to do energy deals in in other countries.
It never made sense that it was about Hunter, because he had no experience in any of it.
He admits it himself in on the Good Morning America interview.
So it always was about Joe.
Why would Joe lie on such a spectacular level about something that he probably had to know that would get revealed at some point and did he not think that deeply?
Well, it was you're right.
It was always about the brand.
It wasn't about Hunter, it was about the brand, and the brand was Joe Joe Biden.
Uh I I don't know.
Um, maybe some have surmised that maybe he realized, you know, back in 2014, 15, 16, he wasn't gonna be president of the United States.
It was it was Hillary Clinton who was gonna be the Democrat nominee, and maybe he decided he was gonna, you know, pursue business and make money and and do this this kind of crazy stuff that looks like it's is as the facts are showing happen.
I don't know.
Uh what I know is we have to do our work, and we're committed to doing that and doing it in the right way, doing it in a way that's consistent with the Constitution and getting the facts to the American people.
All right, Jim Jordan, House Judiciary Committee Chairman, thank you, sir.
You bet.
Thanks, Sean.
Take care.
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Gee, what a shocker.
Donald Trump has pleaded not guilty.
And the DC court.
There's a lot being made of the fact that there's not a big MAGA crowd.
MAGA, what did it say?
You know, MAGA, no show.
Um, there's not many people in Washington, D.C. unless it's only push back on that.
There's plenty of MAGA people.
But you know what MAGA people do?
What?
They work.
Well, yeah, they go to work.
Okay, I've seen the crowds.
They're not that big.
I mean, compared to a normal like down in Florida going in a caravan.
It's like a lot of people.
The liberals have sent all of our money to Ukraine, so they don't have anything left to pay their protesters.
Okay, so you got 5.4% of the people in DC that voted for Donald Trump.
That's it.
That's what they say.
Well, I'm just telling you right now, it does it doesn't matter.
They could charge him for anything there and probably get a guilty verdict.
I don't believe he can get a fair, I don't think it's going to be a fair venue.
Ron DeSantis brought this brought this up, and by the way, I want to talk about him when we get back in a second.
Um, that you know what?
You shouldn't be if you're a politician and a known figure like this.
You can't be in a venue that 95% of the people voted against you and expect the jury pool to be fair.
Because the government doesn't want it fair.
Um and I don't think I don't I don't think the president can get one in New York City either.
Twelve percent of New York City residents voted Republican for him.
That's it.
That's not a lot.
In Fulton County, Georgia, I think it was 26%.
That's not 24%, one of those.
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Didn't we do a poll at the beginning of this year, knowing that it was going to be a Republican primary?
And wasn't the question?
Do you, my audience, and I did this on TV too, want me to interview all the candidates running for president.
You know, I'm I'm taking heavy exception to Chris Christie because I can't stand him.
Take very heavy exception to Chris Christie.
All right, so I might make an exception because he's not a serious candidate.
He's not running on a platform that he wants to be president.
He's running uh, I guess Eric Bowling interviewed him, and Eric Bowling, you know, he actually said the boat, well, you're gonna be wrong, and you'll apologize when I win.
He's not gonna win.
He's like the co-host over at Liberal Morning Show.
And and Georgie Stephanopoulos is shot.
He just is so condescending.
He talks to everybody like that.
He's such a pompous ass.
So pompous.
He left he left office with a 14% approval rating and a picture of him sitting on his on his backside on a beach that he had closed down.
Uh was that during COVID?
I don't remember.
Sure was.
I mean, so I'm like, I'm so sick and tired.
All it is is I'm gonna bash Trump and I'm gonna go into every debate with the attitude that I'm just gonna pummel Trump.
That's what he's running on.
Meanwhile, he couldn't couldn't stand up to Trump if he tried.
Okay.
So he's not winning anything.
And he's like now the liberal media darling Republican.
And loved by the liberal media, because they can use him to bludgeon Trump.
That's what they do.
Okay.
That's what Chris Christie is.
So but anyway, we asked this audience whether I should interview every candidate.
Okay.
And you know, we've done town halls with some candidates.
We've had Mike Pence on, we've had Vivek on, we've had Nikki Haley on.
We've had um DeSantis on.
Yeah, Ron DeSantis, and and I have him on last time.
Why are you having Ron DeSantis on?
Why did you ask Ron DeSantis to debate Gavin?
Gavin Newsom said he wanted to debate him, and they had been sniping at each other, and they both agreed to the debate.
And I'm like, okay, that's my job.
And what part of that now, the person I've given the most town hall time to has been the front runner by a large margin, and that's Donald Trump.
And he's you know, he's got a big one.
We went through the same thing in 2015 and 2016, if you remember when we had all the candidates in.
Yeah, Ted Cruz was mad at me at the time, and I'm friends with Ted Cruz.
And who had the most time?
It was even.
Ted Cruz.
That's right.
He did have a little more.
Ted Cruz had the most the interesting thing was when Trump ran in 2015-2016, it was the same exact thing with DeSantis and Trump now with Cruz and Trump then.
The people that loved Cruz were furious and thought for sure we had given more time to Trump.
And then we went through for the audience and we took the time to go through it, and it was laborist and uh long before Trump announced, I mean, we were talking a lot.
And you know, I said, I'm not gonna support you if you're not a conservative, and I'm not and I you know, uh every indication is you're not.
Actually said that to him at the time.
And I said, I'm looking for somebody that's gonna save the country.
And all these other people that kiss your ass and want, you know, want to ride on your plane, which I've never been on, uh, never had a ride on his plane, never been on I never went on Air Force One with him.
The trips to the White House, I only went for one dinner and one Christmas party.
And that was and every other appearance was a an interview appearance.
Imagine if we could get the visitor logs for Joey.
Yeah.
All the people we would see in Delaware and at the White House, which is the people's house.
I'd be very interested to see who exactly is visiting Joe and Hunter and who's living there.
There's somebody I don't even recognize FaceTime me.
Let me just see for fun.
Hello, who's FaceTime?
Wait a minute.
It's Arnold Schwarzenegger.
By the way, sir, I am on radio right now, live.
Do you mind if I put you on speaker?
That's fantastic.
Yeah, uh, hang on, I gotta get you.
You want to say it?
Hey.
I I've got you up by my microphone.
How you how are you doing, by the way?
You look good.
I like the beard on you.
It looks good.
I saw you in a hot tub with with the beard and a stogie, and you look pretty good doing it.
Well, thank you very much.
Thank you.
How are you?
Oh, life's good.
Um anyway, we had a scheduled time at 9 a.m.
You were gonna call me your time, noon today.
I didn't get your call, but it's okay.
I heard you were working out.
Uh I just got home.
Oh, I was I was recording because I was I'm doing this book uh, you know uh Be Useful, which is coming out on October 10th, and uh I will talk to her about that anyway later on, but in any case, um so that's why I was uh kind of recording the promotional videos and stuff like that.
Now just go home.
Well, you look good, you look like you're working out.
By the way, I don't know if you've known, but for the last twelve years of my life, I've been working out regularly.
Uh I I finally built up some serious muscle mass and I do mixed martial arts and I train four or five days a week and I love it.
And and I understand now you uh you had always had this passion your whole life.
Now I have a passion and I can't give it up.
Well, I was never really worried about your fitness because you always were into it.
Yeah I think that you and I we both have the same problem, which is we like to eat also.
You know, I like I I I was born in Austria, so I grew up with the Austrian pastries and the Saka tour and all this stuff, so I cannot let go of that.
So it was often I have too much of that, and then you have to do more bicycle riding and more working out.
Uh go back on a diet again.
And then you go back on the diet, then you lose it, then you put it back on again.
You know, my favorite food in the world is pasta, but I can't eat it because it's all sugar.
I mean, you know, so I don't know.
I know.
But you know something?
Everything that is good is bad for you, right?
Everything that is great is bad for you.
That's a good point.
Well, I'll tell you what, um, it's great to hear your voice.
We haven't we haven't touched base in a couple of years.
I miss talking to you.
Um I'll call you back when I'm not on the air.
And um are you enjoying watching the the the political divide in this country?
Are you as worried as I am about the direction this corpse of a president has taken us?
Well, um you know, I am more concerned about that we're not solving the problems in America.
And that's something that one time we we uh when we have time to talk about it, I like to talk to you about that because there's just so many problems that you have to solve, and I think the only way we can solve those uh by solving it together.
Democrats and Republicans have to come together like in the old days, if they like it or not.
Um I think there's a way of doing it like I did when I was governor.
Let me let me ask you a question about that.
How how do you parties can declare victory?
Okay.
So my question is this.
How do you reconcile those that want to defund the police with those of us that believe in law and order?
How do you reconcile somebody people that want a sanctuary state versus those that want to enforce legal immigration?
How do you reconcile those of us that want energy independence and believe that in until we have modern technology that would actually work, uh that we shouldn't be importing oil from Venezuela, OPEC, Saudi Arabia and being reliant on them?
How do you reconcile, you know, peace through strength versus you know, a mentality is that you know America would unilaterally disarm.
Uh I mean the the I I don't see any middle ground there.
I'll give you the answer to the chance to answer that.
Well, I I just think that it's not just about the middle ground, it's just there's a lot of issues that are very important to Republicans.
There's a lot of issues that are important to the Democrats.
And you sit down and you start working on those issues, and first you start looking at the things that you have in common.
Is this what I did when I was in Sacramento, and I found out that you know Democrats wanted to build and do infrastructure projects as much as Republicans did.
So we got together on that and started really hammering that out and working on that.
Then there were certain things that environmentally that Republicans were for, and then other things that Democrats were for, and then you started to negotiating and working out a deal on those things.
So it's the key thing is, I think with all of those things is to kind of not look at the other side as the enemy, but as a working partner that disagrees on a lot of issues and that have different ways of thinking, and they have to and to have to answer to different kind of uh uh special interest groups than Republicans do.
And somehow there is always a sweet spot there, I think.
And this is maybe idealistic thinking and all that stuff to call it that, but I believe that's the only way instead of just that because we have seen over the last you know ten years they're attacking each other and trying to derail each other, doesn't work because I look at it, I get all my messages in life from sports.
And there's one thing that I know that the basketball team or football team can only really win and be the best if they all play together.
They maybe have different ways of approaching it, but they can they if they work together, they can win.
They have a better chance chance of winning.
And I think America to win and to stay number one on the world stage.
I think that we got to keep winning and got to solve some of those big issues.
And so I believe that we can sit down And talk just to give you an example when it comes to the energy situation.
I think that you, for instance, the Democrats and the Republicans sit down and say, okay, you guys want to have more renewables.
We love that.
Go and go and build more renewables.
Let's go and get our renewables from 20% to 40% nationwide.
Let's go at the same time look at what we like, which is nuclear power.
Let's go and build 20%, uh moving 20% up from uh, you know, 20% to 40%.
Now we have altogether 80% of clean energy in America.
So there's something like that.
I guarantee you that the Republicans will go for that, and I guarantee you the Democrats will go for that.
I'm not so sure.
But we both can kind of benefit and go home to their districts and declare victory.
So I just think there's there's a way of doing it.
We just have to have leadership and to really kind of bring people together.
That is the key thing.
You know, I uh the only disagreement I would have is we have a wealth of of oil, gas, and coal, and that as of today, and you're not wrong on nuclear energy, but the Democrats will never open their minds to that.
But the lifeblood of the I think you I think you're wrong.
I think that the Democrats would open their mind to it because they know that with renewable energy alone, we cannot get there where we want to be.
I just happen to be one of those guys that is a fanatic about decreasing pollution because pollution kills too many people.
And, you know, it's one thing when they talk about global warming and about climate change and all those things.
I don't use those words that much because to me what is important is to concentrate more on the pollution.
All right, well, listen, every Republican that I've talked to wants to also get rid of pollution.
Yes, we cannot get rid of nobody wants dirty air or or dirty water.
Um I'm coming up on a break here.
Um I look forward to talking to you often.
No, well, so we can talk by the way.
Are you in like your smoking tent?
You have a stogie going right now?
You do, right?
Yes, I have a stogie right next to me.
Of course you do.
Absolutely correct.
Yes.
All right, all right.
Well, listen, I gotta let you go, but uh we'll call you back when I'm not on the air.
I just want to say you were the first one to come out to help me when I ran for governor.
You had the town hall meeting.
I will never forget that how what a great friend you always were.
And so, you know, I am always ready to talk to you on air, off the air, whatever it is, it makes no difference.
You know, you're my friend.
Well, I well, we've always had a great relationship.
I think the world view in so many ways we can agree to disagree.
Did you see my interview with your friend Gavin Newsom?
I don't know if you saw that.
What do you think?
I miss an interview that you do.
That was such a thing.
That was a classic.
Well, I got him to agree to debate Ron DeSantis, and now Ron DeSantis is gonna debate uh so all right.
I will call you back uh when I have a spare moment.
God bless you.
Thanks for checking in.
We appreciate it.
Have a good day.
You too.
Bye.
I think it sounded pretty good from my cell phone, don't you?
What do you think?
Sure.
Sure.
You just didn't like the conversation.
I don't really care for him.
Uh anyway, 800-941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the uh program.
Listen, uh, we're following the story.
Donald Trump now Trump departs the DC courtroom.
A Raymond's done.
Uh no reason to talk about that anymore.
We'll have all these details tonight about Devin Archer's deposition being released.