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Solomon and Jarrett - August 1st, Hour 2
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All right, hour two, Sean Hannity Show, toll-free.
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Obviously, we're staying fixated, focused like a laser beam on our top story of the day, which really is broader than the news.
You've got now a great opportunity to compare and contrast the justice system in America.
How many times have I discussed on this program we have a dual justice system?
How many times have you heard me say we don't have equal justice under the law?
How many times have you heard me say we don't have equal application of our laws?
How many times have I said that we are risking the foundation of all laws in society if, for example, Joe Biden selects what laws he wants to enforce and what he doesn't want to enforce,
like at the border, or if we have one set of standards for one group of people, let's call them conservatives or Republicans, or Trump, people with the last name Trump, and we have another justice system for people with the last name Clinton or the last name Biden.
You know, because this is what we now know.
You know, you would think the mob, the media would get it.
It was like in unison yesterday about Devin Archer confirming everything Joe said as a candidate, everything he said as president so many times that never once did he ever speak with his son Hunter or his brother or anybody for that matter, a direct quote about their foreign business dealings.
And then how only in the last two weeks did that evolve into, no, Joe, we continue to say that Joe never went into business with Hunter.
That is not the same as having never discussed business with Hunter.
That's a whole different issue.
And then Archer confirming the obvious that Joe Biden lied about knowledge of Hunter's business dealings.
And, you know, again and again, Hunter inviting Joe onto calls at least 20 times for 10 years.
He didn't know anything about Hunter's foreign business deals.
The whole time we learned last week when this ridiculous, insane, sweetheart, you know, slap on the wrist plea deal was called out by the judge, thankfully, in Delaware and stopped dead in its tracks because it would have prevented any future prosecution of Hunter Biden, including on Farah violations.
This is so much bigger now.
This is Joe Biden's bribery allegation scandal.
That's what this now is.
And we now have, wow, one alarm bell after another.
And then listening to Devin Archer yesterday go before the House Oversight Committee and what we learned from Jim Jordan and James Comer and everything that we know up to this point.
Biden, you know, 20 phone calls behind the scenes.
He was the closer.
That's what his role was.
And then Devin Archer goes into great specificity and great detail how Hunter Biden and Burisma executives called D.C. Both of them called D.C. Why?
To get the Ukrainian prosecutor fired.
You go back to Dubai, December 4th, 2015, and they needed, and Devin Archer, we went as far as even saying that Burisma was going to go under because of the investigation of then prosecutor Victor Shokin.
And then Joe Biden, they get him on the phone.
He's on speaker talking to the head of Burisma, other top burisma officials.
And lo and behold, he's in Ukraine a few days later talking about corrupt prosecutor in Ukraine, which led to the $1 billion taxpayer dollars being leveraged to fire the prosecutor, our taxpayer money, loan guarantees.
You got six hours or you're not getting the money.
Fire the prosecutor.
Son of a B, they fire him.
Joe said that, bragging about it.
Hunter goes on Good Morning America.
We played it over and over again.
He admits he has no experience at all, energy, gas, oil, or Ukraine.
And he gets paid all of this money.
And once the prosecutor is gone, Burisma got what they paid for.
They have a 1023 form that goes into great specificity and detail by a credible FBI informant, credible defined by the FBI themselves, because they paid this guy hundreds of thousands of dollars.
And anyway, in that form, who is he talking to?
The CEO of Burisma.
Oh, yeah, Hunter's dumb as a, my dog is smarter than him.
He's so stupid.
His words, not mine.
Everybody knew he was a drug addict.
All these, you know, our top geopolitical foes, they knew he was a drug addict.
They knew he was useless.
This guy even said he was useless in that 1023 form quoted by the FBI informant, this confidential human source.
So you have all of this on the record, and we've known it for a long time.
What was Hunter selling?
What was Hunter offering?
He wasn't selling his experience in energy when he was shaking down the Chinese oil executive and that WhatsApp message.
I am sitting here with my father.
Why haven't you fulfilled your commitment?
Blah, blah, blah.
Well, within a week, $5 million is transferred to the Biden family, one of those, quote, LLC shell corporations.
So he wasn't selling any expertise.
He didn't have any.
What experience did you have, Hunter?
Well, I worked on the board of Amtrak and the UN food program, and I'm a lawyer.
Oh, no experience at all with Ukraine or energy.
None, no.
Well, why do you think they picked you?
I don't know.
Maybe because your dad was in charge of Ukraine and the Obama administration and could leverage a billion dollars.
And then after that guy's fired, guess who continues to get paid?
That was the whole issue of the 1023 form, which, by the way, the FBI didn't want to hand over.
This is a dual system of justice.
The media doesn't care.
They're not going to tell you these facts.
They got the entire Russia collusion hoax wrong.
For three years, they spread nothing but lies and conspiracy theories.
This show, with two of the people that were such an integral part of our coverage, you're going to join us in a second, got it right.
All of it.
Vindicated by the Horowitz report, now the Durham report.
Nobody was held responsible.
Operation Crossfire Hurricane never should have been open.
This is a dual justice system.
Hillary Clinton, top secret classified information, no raids.
Oh, they're all worried about, well, did Donald Trump order surveillance tapes deleted at Mar-a-Lago?
He says he did not.
He says that he handed over every bit of them.
I'm sure that will be vetted out over time.
I have no way of knowing.
But that's what he says.
But Hillary Clinton did delete 33,000 subpoenaed emails.
And she used something none of us had ever heard of before, Bleach Bit, to do it.
Had devices that might have had copies of these emails destroyed with hammers and had SIM cards removed from those devices, BlackBerry's iPhones.
So what was Hunter selling?
Just keep going back.
It's a dual justice.
This is a very dangerous time for America.
He was selling the Biden brand, Devin Archer tells us, the Biden brand.
It wasn't the Hunter-Biden brand because that was not a particularly good brand.
Anyway, two people have been amazing on pointing out this dual system of justice.
John Solomon, editor-in-chief, just thenews.com, by the way, also the author, I never knew he had it in him of a children's book that's a bestseller called Hidden Headlines.
Greg Jarrett, his latest bestsellers trial of the century, he wrote two top number one best-selling books on the Russia hoax.
Here we go again, guys.
You know, we're standing on an island by ourself with the media going one way, destroy Trump.
You know, we're going to have indictment, what, four, then probably in New Jersey, what, an indictment five, and then they'll pile on, you know, superseding indictments.
You know, it's never going to end, is it?
Greg, let's talk about the legal aspects here.
Well, the legal aspects of Trump are the Devin Archer testimony.
Well, compare the two because it's the heart of my argument, which is we don't have equal justice under the law.
Well, I'll give you an example.
Clearly, Hunter Biden committed a crime under FARA, but he's not being prosecuted for that.
Anybody in Donald Trump's orbit was prosecuted for FARA violations.
Paul Manafort went to prison for it.
So, you know, there is a double standard of justice and selective prosecution, and it's driven by Merrick Garland's Department of Justice.
But, you know, Devin Archer, you're absolutely right, Sean, utterly demolished Joe Biden's lies that he knew nothing, was uninvolved.
You know, Hunter was selling access to his father and policy influence.
Archer's testimony proved it conclusively yesterday.
And yeah, he tried to minimize it by saying, oh, we were just selling the Biden brand.
That's a marketing strategy because all brands sell something.
Nike's a brand, but it sells sports merchandise.
Jeep's a brand.
They sell cars.
The Bidens were selling influence in exchange for millions of dollars.
And, you know, Hunter essentially put his dad up for sale at the expense of America's national security.
And, you know, Berezma was their most brazen scam.
You know, there's a document where officials are demanding Hunter use his influence to get rid of the prosecutor.
He gets his dad on the phone to talk to the CEO of Berezma.
Next thing we know, by his own admission, Joe saw to it, the prosecutor was canned.
So that's an illegal quid pro quo.
It's a pay-to-play scheme.
That's known in the law books as bribery and conspiracy.
And by the way, to convict, you don't have to show that Joe Biden pocketed a penny.
If he used his public office to enrich his family, which he did, that is felonious conduct.
It's also an impeachable offense.
That is a very critical point in the law that, frankly, I only hear that point being made by you, and I don't think it could be made often enough.
All right, quick break.
More with John Solomon.
Greg Jarrett, all the news of the day, 800-941-Sean, your number if you want to be a part of the program as we continue.
And now, a word from the 46th President of the United States.
We choose unity over division.
We choose science over fiction.
We choose truth over facts.
Sean and he is on right.
Greg Jarrett and John Solomon.
John Solomon, your reporting has been stellar, and you just have a new report out as well.
Yeah, listen, I think that the way to look at Devin Archer yesterday is that he provides significant corroboration to the FD 1023 informant report.
A separate informant meets with Zolchevsky and Podarsky, the two top officials at Barisma, and he tells the FBI informant that they bought Joe Biden and Hunter Biden as a package.
This is a direct quote from the FBI.
Well, did they really buy him as a package when they say that the guy thought he was stupid and that his dog was smarter?
Well, listen, they clearly knew that Hunter Biden was the weaker part of the package, but here's what they said.
This is a direct quote from the FBI.
They hired Hunter Biden to protect us through his dad, right?
That was the proposition.
What does Devin Archer say yesterday?
Joe Biden and Hunter Biden were the brand.
And when Joe Biden called into these meetings, he made clear that he was part of the brand proposition of what Hunter would get done for them.
That's a very affirming thing.
The second thing that the FBI informant says is Hunter Biden was supposed to help Burisma deal with this problem with Zolchewski.
What does Devin Archer tell the committee?
The Zolchewski, I'm sorry, Shokin, the prosecutor.
Zolchewski and Vadim Prasarsky were the two top officials at Burisma.
They were pressuring Hunter Biden to deal with Shulkin.
It matches again.
The third thing that the FBI informant says that there was a bribe and that Hunter Biden million, Hunter Biden was going to get $5 million out of the bribe.
Now, Devin Archer doesn't say, I don't know anything about a bribe, but he does tell them something very important.
Hunter Biden was being paid exactly $83,333 a month times 60 months.
That actually matches exactly $5 million.
The testimony yesterday by Devin Archer fills in and affirms a lot of the things that a separate FBI informant was telling the FBI.
The stories are starting to match.
The puzzle pieces are beginning to lock together.
And one of the big lies that we were given in 2020 for Joe Biden to win the presidency has now been forever destroyed.
The Democrats and Joe Biden will never again be able to say Joe Biden wasn't meeting with his business partners.
He was indeed.
Oh, I mean, all of that.
And then it goes to the heart of what a danger this is, I think, to justice in America.
How many more indictments does Donald Trump get?
Are we going to get up to five or six, Craig, or do they stop at four?
Unlimited.
You know, they will do anything to eliminate Joe Biden's main competition for reelection.
And so they have weaponized the Department of Justice against Donald Trump and also simultaneously turned it into a protection racket for Joe and Hunter Biden.
You know, make no mistake, you know, that sweetheart deal last week that imploded in federal court was meant to protect Joe Biden because, you know, they don't want to bring fare charges against Hunter because Joe is involved in those overseas transactions.
And it's not just Ukraine.
That's just a sliver of the corrupt acts.
Similar schemes involved China, Romania, Kazakhstan, and Russia, the same countries over which Joe Biden as vice president ran foreign policy in the Obama administration.
All right, stay right there.
I got to hold you both over.
We have just too much to talk about, very specifically about what the country, most of the country doesn't know about January 6th.
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All right, so we continue now.
You know, what is, you know, if you look from yesterday to today and the news, and if ever I've needed to highlight what is a dual justice system and unequal justice under the law, and we're not having equal application of our laws, it's now.
Let me go over this, the things that I think and John Solomon and Greg Jarrett are with us think was missing in the coverage, for example, on January 6th.
Like, if you look at the January 6th committee, sadly, they never subpoenaed Nancy Pelosi.
They never subpoenaed the sergeant of arms.
They never got their text.
They never got their emails.
They never answered questions.
Nancy Pelosi is in charge of safety at the Capitol.
She's the head of it.
Why didn't she get questioned about her actions that day?
We have videotape of her being filmed by her daughter.
She didn't look too stressed out as all that was happening around her.
But we can't allow stuff like this to happen again.
I won't play it now, but you've got to look at Lester Holt's report on NBC News saying that they had actionable intelligence for weeks and they didn't act on it.
How come that didn't come up in the January 6th hearing?
How come Uriel Bowser, the mayor of D.C., was not questioned?
Why in writing did you say you would not accept the calling up of National Guard troops?
Why didn't they bring in the former Capitol police chief?
There's only been 10 Capitol Police chiefs.
I'm talking about Chief Sund in this case.
He actually wrote a book about all this, an amazing man.
He no longer works there, but he had been calling for the guard based on intelligence for days.
And yet he was denied every single time.
And that day, January 6th, he was pleading for help.
Nobody came.
Nobody helped him.
He wasn't calling Donald Trump.
Okay, Donald Trump has his rally.
The words: many of you will peacefully, patriotically march to the Capitol so your voices will be heard.
Okay.
Now we've got charges against what, Donald Trump for what?
Inciting an insurrection?
They didn't play this during the January 6th committee.
Now, they're not going to play it before any grand jury.
They can indict a ham sandwich, but they are, you know, that this will come out at trial.
All of this information.
Well, I assume the judge will let it in.
Although, you know, if you're a Republican or a conservative in New York or D.C. in a courtroom, frankly, the odds of you doing well are not very good.
I would argue, even the same thing for Fulton County, Georgia, which is, you know, next on the hit list.
So, you know, there's a lot happening here and a lot of information.
But the saddest part to me of the January 6th committee is with all that information, they could have taken steps to protect our Capitol, to protect this great institution, to protect every elected official.
I don't care if you're a Democrat or Republican.
We've got to protect our elected officials.
We've got to protect our institutions.
And that would prevent anything like that from ever happening again.
And you've got to learn: well, what did we know in terms of the intelligence and why wasn't it acted upon?
Anyway, we continue.
John Solomon, editor-in-chief, justthenews.com, also author of the children's book, Hidden Headlines.
Greg Jarrett is with us.
His latest book, Trial of the Century, Clarence Darrow.
Wow, what a page turner it is.
And let me start with you, Greg Jarrett, because, I mean, if you're going to charge Trump for inciting violence and insurrection based on speech, well, you tell me, you know, what part of that speech meets the legal definition of, you know, somebody encouraging imminent lawless action, which I saw on a column of yours.
That's right.
Imminent lawless action is the legal and constitutional standard.
And nowhere in his speech did Trump encourage it.
So charging him with inciting violence or an insurrection based on the speech would be utterly absurd.
Not even special counsel Jack Smith is that dumb.
So it looks as though he rolled up his sleeves and combed through the criminal codes and said, yeah, let's go with conspiracy to defraud the government.
What's that?
Well, that's a knowingly false and deceitful interference in an election.
That is an enormous stretch, and it ain't going to work because it's not a crime to claim the election was stolen.
Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, did the same thing four years earlier.
Stacey Abrams did it.
That's right.
Nor was it election interference to challenge the certification of electors on January 6th because that's permitted under the Electoral Count Act.
And indeed, Democrats challenged certification four years earlier and in prior elections.
So under the law, you know, Smith would have to prove deceit, craft, trickery.
Well, if Donald Trump truly believed he won, even if he was wrong, he's entitled to use the legal process to contest the outcome.
That's not government fraud.
You know, you did a lot of great reporting on all of this, John Solomon.
You first made me aware, for example, of the Capitol Police Chief's son and what he had to say.
And we've had him on this program.
We've had him on TV.
I know you've had him on your program.
And there's so much that we could have gleaned for it.
They could have gotten their pound of flesh and criticized Donald Trump all they want.
You know, they can criminalize this all they want, which is obvious and clear.
However, that doesn't mean that it rises to the occasion of the crime that they're alleging, does it?
Now, listen, there are some important developments in the last 24 hours I want to call attention to.
And Greg's analysis is right on the money again, as always.
Last night, a Pennsylvania state judge ruled that Donald Trump can't be sued for the statements he made, sowing doubt over the 2020 election because they're covered by presidential immunity.
That is a legal argument we're going to need to keep an eye on as Jack Smith and others begin to bring their potential cases against the president.
Very important ruling, not a lot of people paying attention to it.
There is a presidential immunity question that hasn't even begun to be litigated, but I want to go to another piece of evidence.
Tomorrow, I'm going to put out some information.
It is the documents that former NYPD commissioner Bernie Carrick just turned over to Jack Smith.
They're belatedly turned over because there were questions about privilege.
They show the state of the investigation into all the claims that Donald Trump was looking into and making allegations about.
Now, one can argue, hey, whether Trump's allegations were right or not.
But what they show is that this investigation by Bernie Carrick, a former police commissioner, he was conducting it like a police department, that it hadn't resolved any of the questions, that they were still actively investigating things that they had not concluded one way or the other, whether something was true or not.
That evidence could put a very big wrench into the Jack Smith argument that Donald Trump was trying to defraud people because he knew what he was saying was not true.
The investigators working right under Donald Trump and his legal team actually hadn't made conclusions yet.
That's what these documents show.
We're going to make those public tomorrow.
But these are very big issues that the very fast-moving Jack Smith issue investigation really hasn't considered or certainly not publicly debated.
Let me ask about this Pennsylvania state judge yesterday ruling Greg Jarrett on the legal side that an election worker cannot sue former President Trump over statements he made, sowing doubt about the 2020 election results while in office, finding the statements are protected by presidential immunity.
What was your take on that?
Well, John, as nicely as he always does, summarized it.
You know, when you're acting in a capacity as president, even if it's election-related, you have governmental immunity.
And I think that's going to be a serious obstacle for special counsel Jack Smith.
The other aspect of this is the political implication.
These indictments have only steeled the resolve of voters who support Trump.
They see a venal and corrupt Department of Justice.
They see these local prosecutors in New York and Georgia driven purely by political animus, not fidelity to the law.
And, you know, voters have wised up.
They watched for three years as Trump was falsely accused in the Russia hoax.
They watched Hillary get away with clear crimes.
Now they see Joe Biden and his son selling out their country for self-enrichment.
No consequence.
You know, so the DOJ and the FBI, they've been burying incriminating evidence, obstructing the investigation into the Bidens.
They gifted Hunter a lenient sweetheart plea deal with blanket immunity.
I mean, Americans see this for what it is, corruption.
You know, I mean, I think they do.
I mean, it is a phenomenon, John, that every time, you know, they do this and they charge Trump and they go after Trump.
It just, why do his poll numbers go up so high?
I mean, I mean, I've never seen or would have predicted that something like that would happen.
But is it just the pylon effect that is never-ending, non-stop, you know, attack against this one guy?
People don't see it as prosecution anymore, but they see it as persecution.
Listen, I think the New York Times and the Washington Post suddenly are wrestling with this reality.
It's driving them nuts to see this dynamic that Donald Trump gets more popular with each accusation launched against them.
I think it's rooted back in the story that we all started working on together.
People realize that Russia collusion was a delusion, that it took the country through three years of unnecessary debate and all these false stories are out there.
Then they're now learning, oh, we were told not to believe the Hunter Biden stuff and that Donald Trump had no right to ask for an investigation of Hunter Biden.
Oh, wait, there was a reason.
There was wrongdoing by Hunter Biden.
He's about to plead guilty.
I think they're processing these last seven years and starting to realize that they no longer believe the official narratives coming out of Washington.
And as a result, they're doubling down on Donald Trump, either because they think he got a raw deal or because maybe they themselves feel gypped about how the first term of Donald Trump occurred or what happened in the 2020 election.
We were lied to about the Hunter Biden laptop.
We were lied to by Joe Biden on a lot of these points.
I think it's a very powerful dynamic that pollsters are just beginning to start to measure.
And it scares the Democrats to heck because this has been their seven-year strategy.
And all of a sudden, it's having the opposite effect of what they wanted.
Let me ask you, let's look ahead to the next likely indictment, which would be Georgia.
I've read that transcript over and over and over again, Greg Jarrett.
When you read it in context, because the media only focuses on one line, I only need 11,000, whatever, 735 votes, whatever the number is.
And yet, you know, this was a long conversation.
And Donald Trump went through specifically where he thought that there was fraudulent activity in Georgia.
And, you know, 400,000 votes, he talks about at one point, 14,000 votes at another point.
And he goes on and on and on about all the examples that he felt where the voting was not right.
You know, there was an interesting audit of the audit, and that was the one in Cobb County, and everybody had wanted Fulton County done by the AJC.
And they even found, I think, what, 5,000 votes in the recount of the recount that they had miscounted and didn't factor in properly.
But the numbers still remain the same.
But my question is, you know, when you look at it in context, I don't think you can get a fair trial as a conservative in a Fulton County court.
I think the Georgia Supreme Court will give him a fair hearing, though.
Yes, I think you've stated it precisely.
You know, in the end, you can't really Criminalize the ability under law for a losing candidate to challenge because the law provides for challenges.
And in the greater context of that conversation with the Secretary of State, that's what Trump was demanding, a recalculation.
And he was citing what he thought were reliable statistics.
Again, as I said before, if you genuinely believe that you think you've won, that something went wrong with the election system, whether it was fraudulent or otherwise, you were allowed to make that challenge.
The law permits it.
That ain't a crime.
And, you know, I think this is politically driven.
I got to thank you both.
A great informative hour.
A lot of breaking news.
John Solomon, thank you.
Greg Jarrett, thank you.
Appreciate you both.
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So when we come back, we're expecting the special counsel Jack Smith to give an announcement, presser.
Obviously, it has to do pertaining to the January 6th issue and charges, et cetera, et cetera.
We'll have it all for you at the top of the next hour.
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I wouldn't expect it's going to go that long.
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