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Congressman Tom Tiffany - June 19th, Hour 2
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Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, you know, it's it's kind of amazing that the country spent three long years uh being indoctrinated with nothing but a lie.
And the lie being that Donald Trump colluded with the Russians in order to win the 2016 election, a lie perpetrated by Hillary Clinton with the aid and support of deep state operatives that knew better and never told the American people the truth.
And of course, that that included the Russian disinformation dossier.
And in the Durham report, what did we learn that they couldn't corroborate a single thing, not one item in that dirty dossier.
But your Department of Justice and your FBI under James Comey used it not once, but three of the four times that Pfizer warrants were eventually issued using that information that Hillary paid for as a means of ruining Carter Page's life and backdoor spying on the Trump campaign transition team and later the Trump presidency.
And nobody's been held accountable.
You know, they chronicles how you know the FBI even went as far as in early October of 2016 to offer Christopher Steele over a million dollars if he could corroborate any of his own dossier.
They were not allowed to do it.
They couldn't, he couldn't he couldn't get a penny because he couldn't corroborate any of it.
They still used it to lie to a FISA court.
On top of the same FBI, you know, exonerating Hillary in July of 2016, uh, even though she had top secret classified information on her servers that even the FBI acknowledged and recognized that foreign entities, hostile regimes likely had access to.
And it's an unbelievable story.
The media, they lied.
Uh Trump, Russia, collusion, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, lies after lies.
It happened every hour of every day.
It happened 24 hours a day, seven days a week, week after week, month after month, and for three long years.
And Inspector General, you know, ended up, you know, vindicating our reporting.
We got it right on Hannity.
We got it right on this radio show.
We got it right, and they got it wrong, and they even got two pulled surprises in the course of this.
And when I say got it wrong, I'm talking about two cable channels and three broadcast networks, and and every major newspaper in the country, starting with the Washington Post and the New York Times.
It's unbelievable.
And even the Democrats that push this lie, along with the media mob, their willing, you know, dupes and all of this, they they just dismissed the findings completely.
Listen.
I have nothing else to say.
I'm finished.
I'm pro-law enforcement.
And so, you know, it's interesting to see my friends across the aisle all of a sudden to be anti-law enforcement.
The Durham report uh did not disabuse uh the fact that Trump asked the Russians to hack Hillary Clinton.
Russians did hack Hillary Clinton, met with had his team meet with people offering dirt on Hillary Clinton at Trump Tower, and Donald Trump, it still looks like was trying to do the biggest deal of his life in Moscow while he was a candidate.
So uh if that was not disproved, then this report seems uh of little value.
I mean, he's been not not been able to support any of these claims with significant evidence.
I mean, you know, this is a country where you're innocent until proven guilty, and that applies not only to Donald Trump but to the FBI as well.
Uh he focuses extensively on the Steele dossier.
The Steel dossier had nothing to do with the origination of the investigation, nor was it relied upon by Special Counsel Mueller uh when he convicted numerous associates of Donald Trump and the two thousand his 2016 campaign.
So he spent 300 pages essentially uh denigrating and attacking the FBI in a very misleading and distorted way, uh, when ultimately he reached more or less the same conclusion that the FBI did.
Um, I think it is a uh naked self-justification for the millions of dollars of taxpayer dollars they wasted in that wild goose chase.
Um so he's trying to justify it now, but nobody takes it seriously.
Everybody knows that Vladimir Putin was involved in an active measure campaign to destabilize and sabotage the American election in 2016, and he he uh you know has been doing it the ever since.
He's never stopped.
This report took four years and basically discovered nothing really new.
And so, you know, I I don't think there's anything in there that we didn't already know.
Look, I think that there are a lot of things that Trump has done to try to damage the FBI's credibility.
Um, but I have a lot of confidence in Director Ray Ray and in the professionals who work so hard every single day to keep us safe.
I don't think that he said anything new in that statement that would undermine the you know anybody's faith in FBI.
Of course, if you've been trashing the FBI for the last several years, um it's not going to uh suddenly vindicate the FBI in your eyesight.
Anyway, joining us now is Congressman Tom Tiffany sits on the Judiciary Committee.
Now the special counsel, John Durham, will be on Capitol Hill on Wednesday, and anyway, he'll testify before the two committees in the House this week, more than a month after releasing his findings, uh saying that Operation Crossfire Hurricane never should have come into existence.
Anyway, Congressman Tom Tiffany of Wisconsin is on that all-important judiciary committee.
Sir, how are you?
Sean, I'm good.
Hope you're well.
Let's go through what what should Americans take out of this beyond the fact that they were lied to day in and day out, not only by Democrats on the committee and Democrats in general, but by the entire media establishment.
So first of all, I would say this, Sean.
Even though maybe a significant amount of the public, Democrats and uh on the Judiciary Committee and others do not want to know the truth.
It is our task as Republicans on the Judiciary Committee to tell the American people the truth.
And one of the ways we're going to do that is this week with Special Counsel Durham coming in.
And these are he has given us an important document for the American people to see, and we're going to delve into the details and share that with the American people.
I just think it's really important for them to know the truth.
But I gotta tell you, there's a uh a real burning question for me is a number of these high-profile people, Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Pre-Staff, they refuse to cooperate.
Why did Special Council Durham not compel their testimony?
I want to know an answer to that because the American people are tired and frustrated of this dual system of justice.
They want answers.
The American people are fair-minded, Sean.
Give them the truth, and they will come to the right conclusions.
Look, I can understand the media being abusively biased.
I've I've chronicled it in my entire career in radio and TV.
I get it.
They they have an agenda.
I get it, the Democrats have an agenda.
But the FBI shouldn't have an agenda.
And one of the tasks now before your committee is to discover and to find out whether our FBI has been politicized and weaponized.
And I think the answer is yes.
And whether the Department of Justice has been politicized and weaponized, I think the answer there is yes.
Because the reality is there was no absolutely, they had no business opening up Crossfire Hurricane as chronicled by John Durham.
They had no evidence that justified opening up Operation Crossfire Hurricane.
But they did it anyway.
And then they used political information that they were told was political information, and that's Hillary's bought and paid for dirty dossier to perpetuate the lie.
Now, it's one thing if Democrats and the media lie.
It's another thing if our FBI is lying to us.
and they played a very active role because they ended up using the unverifiable information to lie to a fisa court not once before times special counsel durham says in his report that the fbi has taken actions in 2020 and 2021 to rectify what they did wrong in 2016.
For me, Sean, that is not nearly Enough.
I think at a minimum, we have to go after the FISA process to make sure it's not allowed to happen again.
But the question is ultimately, is this just a matter of fixing systems, or is this a matter of fixing the people that have been in leadership at the FBI?
I think it's a people problem, not a systems problem.
I I I think it's an institutional problem.
And at this point, you know, if there's not something similar to a church committee style hearings that gets to the bottom of this, how the FBI's politicized and the DOJ is weaponized, I think we're just spinning our wheels and you know, nobody was held accountable here.
Well, well, what does that do?
That only emboldens people.
Then we saw the DOJ and the FBI involved in 2020.
They had Hunter's laptop in in December of 2019.
They authenticated it according to John Solomon in the spring of 2020.
Then why were FBI agents pre-bunking the laptop to every big tech company, knowing that it was likely going to leak before the 20 uh 20 election?
Aren't they putting cinder blocks on the scales now of presidential elections?
They did two in a row, and maybe you can argue with the rate at Mar-a-Lago and uh the the never-ending double standard as it relates to all things Donald Trump and classified information, that they're doing it again in 2024.
I think the case can be made in that way.
I think we have an opportunity as the Judiciary Committee, though, in particular to get after the FISA process.
Think about it, Sean.
The FISA process is meant to get foreign actors that are trying to do illegal things in our country to call them to task to make sure that they're not allowed to do it.
That process has been now used against Americans, including a president.
I sure hope at a minimum that our committee has proposals that this hearing this week is going to help lay the groundwork for to get real reform, especially to the FISA process, so it can never be used against the American people again.
Well, I hope so, because I don't think I could support the renewal of the FISA uh warrant process anymore.
Because there were no consequences for the people.
But is you you correct me if I'm wrong, doesn't it say at the top of a FISA application verified?
And isn't it true that they sent four FISA applications in with Hillary's dossiers, the bulk of information, and that none of that was not only verifiable, but it was all untrue?
That is what it said, and it talks in what you've just cited there, goes to our dual system of justice in America.
And we better get it back, Sean, because sitting on judiciary, I see it in so many different ways.
We have become a lawless country.
And part of the reason for that is people at the highest levels of government, they ignore the law, as we're seeing with this Durham report.
If we don't have people at the top of the FBI that are willing to follow the law, Americans are beginning to say, why should I follow the law?
This is really important stuff.
All right, we continue, Congressman Tom Tiffany, he is on the House Judiciary Committee.
Uh we have special counsel John Durham will be making an appearance as of Wednesday.
A lot of questions for him as we uh continue along.
Well, you see James Comey, you see Andrew McCabe, you see, you know, all these people involved in this, they all, you know, are either writing books or they're now getting paid as contributors on you know left-wing cable news channels and spending their days just you know perpetuating more lies.
So I mean, why would why would anyone think there's any consequences?
Do you think Christopher Ray has done a really good job cleaning it up?
Because I don't.
No.
And I'm anticipating that Mr. Ray is going to appear before our committee real soon also, because he has a whole lot to answer for too.
But it really is the case where um the American people want answers to this, and we need to, while half the country does not get this because they don't listen to people like you, Sean Hannity.
We need to continue to push This message out in hopes that more and more people will understand.
Something is rotten in the state of Denmark, and we need to fix it.
Even if we need to do this alone as Republicans, we need to follow through.
Well, I agree.
Do you think that we need a restructuring of the FBI?
Not a defunding, a restructuring where they go back and return what was once the world's premier law enforcement agency back to its former greatness.
Um that is certainly one of the questions that's going to be before us, and it's a question I'm going to ask Mr. Durham on Wednesday.
Quite honestly, Sean.
I think the systems are there.
I think the people there abused it.
We saw it where they gave Hillary a pass, but boy, they took the thinnest of pretext, and they sure went after President Trump, didn't they?
And so this is a people problem in my estimation.
The FBI needs to have you agree.
Do you agree with me that we don't have equal justice or application and our laws working properly in America in America today?
That's what we're seeing.
Absolutely.
I agree with you.
Sad state, if that's the case, we've become an unconstitutional America, don't we?
Yes, that is correct, and we need to get back to that.
And I believe to your question, I believe this is a people problem.
And we need people that think like Comey McCabe, Strzok, Pre Staff, and others.
They need to be washed out of the FBI, and we need to have new people that will follow the law.
None of them held accountable.
Anyway, we appreciate it.
Tom Tiffany, it's going to be an interesting week when Durham uh takes uh goes before your committee.
We're looking forward to it.
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Linda, is it fair to say that on radio and television that I am not ambiguous when it comes to what my opinions are?
My is that clear?
Oh, yeah.
All right, for example, I did not know that, you know, iHeart, our company in New York, has like a zillion podcasts, right?
Charlemagne the God.
I did have no idea his studios.
I saw Jim Kerr and Carol Miller, longtime top radio rock stars in New York.
Um anyway, they took me around their studios and and Charlemagne the God had his actually has a throne that he broadcasts from, which I think is pretty funny.
And anyway, so we have different, you know, all different points of view on a on the iHeart podcast, etc.
etc.
right?
We do indeed.
Very different.
Okay.
The idea that that some people in the building might have views that differ than mine means what to us?
Uh, very little.
Nothing.
Nothing.
I'm like, being very diplomatic.
It means nothing to me.
And it's it's not my company.
And you know, people like, well, your company said I'm like, my com my no, I don't I don't even know these people.
I don't talk to my company.
I you know the best thing, the best thing about my relationships with my companies is that they let me do my job that they hired me to do to the best of my ability and encourage me to do it.
That's pretty much it, isn't it?
Just check.
I'm just checking.
That's actually exactly it.
We don't have a lot of back and forth.
So then why do people because somebody else in the company says something that that I would never agree with that I would never say?
Why do they hold me accountable for that?
Because people are very narrow-minded.
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All right, let's go to Arizona.
David the Liberal.
David the Liberal apparently has some disagreements with me.
How are you, sir?
Glad you called.
I'm doing fine.
What's on your mind today, David?
Why are you all worked up?
Apparently you don't like what I say.
What's the matter?
Well, I'm not worked up because why would I be worked up?
Because I listen to you talk about James Comer and some 17 tapes.
Which you don't have.
I know he don't have he's lying.
You know he's lying, I ain't.
He didn't say he had them.
He said that they believe there are seventeen tapes available from a top executive at Barisma.
Uh, and there's evidence that they believe will prove that to be true.
Uh so what's your point?
I can bet you Well, let me ask you a question.
Do you think that the Biden family and all their financial dealings with Russia and China and Kazakhstan and Ukraine?
Do you think that that stuff you've made that stuff I'm making up?
Yes.
I may I'm making all of that up.
So there's no truth that I have told.
So so the fact that James Comer has a hundred and seventy-five suspicious activity reports.
He's been able to identify uh dozens of LLCs that he believes are shell companies and payments to nine Biden family members from foreign entities.
You're saying that that's all made up.
Oh, of course it is.
Of course it is.
Well, let's talk about what we do know is a fact.
All right.
Let's go through some of Joe Biden.
You now you've heard me play the tape of Joe Biden admitting that he went to Ukraine and he leveraged a billion taxpayer dollars and demanded that a prosecutor in in Ukraine get fired in six hours.
You've heard that tape, right?
Oh, yeah, that one that the uh he did for international business that the president sent him.
It was the council of foreign relations where he bragged about leveraging our tax money to get a prosecutor in Ukraine fired in son of a bee, they fired him in six hours, right?
Yes, one of the corrupt the prosecutor that uh the corrupt prosecute the corrupt prosecutor, as you say.
Okay, now do you even know the prosecutor's name?
Because I do.
I don't care what his name is.
He was corrupt and uh I'll h I'll and and and what evidence do you have that he was corrupt?
What evidence do you have?
Whatever having corrupted uh I do you just said he was corrupt.
What evidence do you have that this man is corrupt?
Man, stop Sean, you have nothing.
I'm asking a question.
What evidence do you have that this prosecutor was corrupt?
Well, I wasn't there, but he was sent there to get rid of him because he was corrupt.
So you you just believe Joe Biden's story.
Okay, now I got a question for you.
Stop.
Stop making up stuff.
Stop making up stuff.
Okay, so now I got a question for you.
It turns out that the prosecutor was investigating Barisma, the oil and gas giant in in Ukraine, the one that was paying Hunter a fortune, and Hunter Biden said this on Good Morning America.
I want you to listen to it, and then I want to ask you a question on the other side.
Okay?
There's been a a a lot of uh misinformation about me, not about my dad.
Nobody buys that.
But advises idea that I was unqualified to be on the board.
What were your qualifications to be on the board of Barisma?
Well, I was vice chairman of the board of Amtrak for five years.
I was the chairman of the board of the UN World Food Program.
I was a lawyer for Boy Schiller Flexner, one of the most prestigious law firms in the world.
You didn't have any extensive knowledge about natural gas or Ukraine itself, though.
Uh no.
But I think that I had as much knowledge as anybody else that was on the board, uh if not more.
In the list that you gave me of the reasons why you're on that board, you did not list the fact that you were the son of the vice president.
Of course, that's what role do you think that played?
I think that it is impossible for me to be on any of the boards that I just mentioned without saying that I'm the son of the vice president of the United States.
If your last name wasn't Biden, do you think he would have been asked to be on the board of Barisma?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Probably not.
I I don't think that there's a lot of things that would have happened in my life that uh that if my last name wasn't Biden.
All right, so David, this is uh this is your moment of truth.
Your intellectual honesty moment.
Are you ready?
Yes, I'm ready.
Okay.
Now, he had no experience in energy.
I don't care.
Hang on, I'm asking the question.
The name was Biden.
Oh, whale.
David.
I've got back to the David.
David, I'm asking a question.
Now, the guy admits he has no experience in energy, oil, gas, and and and anything in that sector, and no experience with Ukraine.
They're paying him it uh some estimates are we know at least over 50,000 a month, but there's been estimates that are higher.
They're paying him a fortune to be on this board with no experience at all.
The prosecutor investigating these payments is fired by Joe Biden.
Now, why do you think Barisma, the energy giant, was paying Hunter Biden at the time a crack addict, all that money for no experience.
Why do you think he was paid that money?
You're not gonna change my mind.
I didn't ask if I'm gonna change your mind.
Why was Barisma paying all that money to Hunter, who had no experience?
He was corrupt.
Just like Donald Trump corrupt.
So wait a minute.
You're saying Hunter was corrupt.
No, I'm saying the prosecutor was corrupt.
What'd the prosecutor do?
And what do you know what?
I don't care if Hunter Biden got a job in another country.
I don't care.
I didn't ask you that.
Why why do you think why do you think they're paying?
Because I'm gonna give you the answer.
You're not gonna like the answer, but everyone else listening to this this exchange of ours knows that the answer is they were trying to buy influence with his father.
That's called influence peddling.
That is against the law.
And for Joe Biden to misappropriate taxpayer money and leverage our money to get a deal done to get a prosecutor fired so his son can continue to get paid.
Uh that has all the earmarkings of pay to play.
And that's illegal in this country.
Now I would think that you support law and order.
Are you not a law law and order guy, David?
Because I bet if it was Donald Trump and Donald Trump Jr., you would want them you would want them put in jail.
Don't they got Donald Trump?
I'm so I support it so much, I'm so happy they got Donald Trump.
Okay.
But here's here's the problem.
And I'm not going to waste any more time with you.
You want me to be very honest with you?
If if if I told if I showed you Joe or Hunter Biden committing murder on video tape, you would say they're innocent.
Cold blooded murder.
If they did it, of course prosecute them.
But this been going on since 2018.
Okay, but we we we got the all this on tape, and you don't have the intellectual honesty within you to just say, yeah, what they did, what they did is wrong.
Five years, I got it, David.
David, David.
Thank you for the call.
Appreciate it.
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Hey Carl, how are you?
Trying to be nice.
I was trying to get this guy to come around and and there's no hope.
Well, you know, it's really funny how most people don't have any common sense.
Uh my whole issue is uh the motivation of the uh of the left.
And uh and and the perfect examples that are uh uh obvious to everybody on on what their motivation is.
And it's some some of you uh um and and I I I drive a lot and I listen to a lot of uh talk radio, and what really uh I disagree with is they uh they rationalize the left vis-a-vis the Democrat Party as people who hate America.
My philosophy is is they're they're sociopaths.
And uh they only care about government overreach uh and well actually uh staying in power, doing anything to stay in power, and which leads to enriching themselves.
Listen, I mean, these are the same people that didn't care less that Hillary Clinton had top secret classified information on our server.
These are the people that didn't care about the obstruction of deleting subpoenaed emails and destroying uh servers and hard drives with bleach bit and destroying devices with hammers.
I mean, that this this is a big problem we have in the country is that we have a dual system of justice.
We have an FBI that has been politicized and weaponized and a DOJ the same, politicized, weaponized.
And I don't believe in America we have equal justice and equal application under the law anymore.
Equal justice under the law.
I don't think it exists.
And uh if we don't fix that, we might as well just shred our constitution because it's meaningless.
Well, as I said, the the problem is that these people they have no conscience.
That's one of the biggest reasons why they hate religion in general and Christianity specifically.
For them to accept religion in general, they'd have to have a conscience.
Sociopaths don't have it.
And uh as I said, it's just all about the money of power.
The examples are the pandemic with uh government overreach, uh the the cowtowing to the drug companies, you know, forced uh vaccinations, um Ukraine.
Uh here's another one.
Um I can go on and on.
Uh the crony capitalism and tied to the environmental movement.
Millions of dollars.
Uh I heard today that they've they've they've uh spread out millions of dollars to uh to Democrat uh candidates.
And it's just it's really a it really is maddening.
And I think we just need to call, you know, what this really is.
It's just it's just people, they're just out for themselves, and uh they will do anything to stay in power.
Look at the last election.
I mean, that's just obvious.
And uh it it just amazes me that people don't see that and understand that.
It's a very divided country.
It's a very difficult time for our country, and and I'm hoping we can get things back on track.
Anyway, appreciate the call.
Uh let's go to Thomas in New York.
Thomas, you're next, Sean Hannity Show.
How are you, sir?
Hey, Sean, how's it going?
Good.
If Joe Biden doesn't seek reelection, uh, you know, how do the Democratic Party justify giving the nomination and support to Gavin Newsom over Kal Kamala Harris?
You know, you'd have to get in the primary for that to happen, and you know, the window can close.
Uh I think Joe Biden is just hoping to write out that window and and get to the primary season before you know he really makes himself uh, you know, has a disaster on the campaign trail, and he kind of came pretty close to it a number of times last week, you know, when he started talking about his uh his railroad across the Indian Ocean, which he was might widely uh ridiculed about.
God save the Queen, man.
I mean, this guy is a it's just getting worse and worse every day.
And no, no, I I I I agree with you.
It just uh if you're the Democrat, if you're the Republican uh nomin uh people run for president on the Republican side, you want you want Gavin Newsom, because then you make the case.
How do the Democratic Party push away Kamala Harris who has the opportunity to be the first African American woman president?
And you could also make the case she's more qualified than Gavin Newsom, as as you've been playing and have you been saying for a while, Gavin Newsom has been a disaster for California.
So how do you how does the Democratic Party justify to the American people that Gavin Newsom has a better option to Kamala?
I I think the answer is gonna be Democrats don't care.
But the reality is Miranda Devine had a good piece on this today in the New York Post and that is that you know you better pay very close to Kamala Harris because she may be the person sooner than you think if Joe Biden were to be elected for a second term.
I don't know who's more frightening him or her.
Oh absolutely if Joe Biden gets reelected uh she she's she's the party nominee in twenty twenty eight the the but the I I I think she's president before them he does not look healthy to me I don't wish him ill health I've actually just the opposite but he's he does not seem up to the job physically mentally cognitively and it by no measure do I think this man is qualified to be president.
Well I mean it's at that point it becomes it should become an open primary now if it happens after you know let's say he sees the nominee then I would think that she probably would walk right into it as you're suggesting.
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