Jonathan Turley, Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at The George Washington University, had this to say about Bragg’s attempt to hurt Trump with this circus in NYSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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| Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, what we now know is the Trump arraignment inside this New York courthouse is going on. | |
| We don't have all of the details yet. | |
| Basically, I printed this out, or James printed this out like seconds ago. | |
| Number one, Donald Trump has pled not guilty to the grand jury charges during this arraignment. | |
| It's still ongoing. | |
| And what we're hearing is 34 crimes over hush money as it relates to the payment of two women. | |
| That would be Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougall. | |
| But anyway, the indictment charges Donald Trump with 34 criminal counts of falsifying business records. | |
| So it's exactly what we thought it was and conspiracy in connection with hush money payments to two women before the 2016 presidential election. | |
| Now, remember that this in New York City is a misdemeanor. | |
| Remember that the only way they thought that they were able to get after Trump. | |
| Now, let me backtrack. | |
| This was looked at by Mueller. | |
| This was looked at by the DOJ. | |
| This was looked at by the FEC. | |
| And I even interviewed the former head of the FEC and said this is not a campaign election violation at all by definition. | |
| But the only way they could resurrect the, quote, zombie case, according to Pomerance's book, was to tie, because the statute of limitations had passed in terms of New York law. | |
| So they had to tie it to a federal offense. | |
| And even there, it's suspect as to whether or not the statute of limitations had passed on that. | |
| But that's where they're going here. | |
| That's how desperate they are to get Trump, to quote Alan Dershowitz's book here. | |
| But anyway, 34 criminal counts, falsifying business records, and conspiracy in connection with hush money payments to two women before the 2016 presidential election. | |
| By the way, could it have been done for the benefit of the Trump organization or the benefit of maybe for personal reasons? | |
| He doesn't want allegations made against him in public that maybe family members would believe that might be embarrassing to him. | |
| It's called a non-disclosure agreement. | |
| It's called a nuisance lawsuit. | |
| Those are settled every single day in America. | |
| If you're a Democrat, it's called an NDA. | |
| If you're a Republican, they call it hush money. | |
| Anyway, so we know the grand jury had indicted Trump on Thursday afternoon last week for several months about all of this, but now it's real. | |
| And I've got a lot to say here today, and I want to just pause for a second. | |
| And I want to give you, I want to stand 40,000, act as though I want to look at the big picture. | |
| And I want to go up 40,000 feet, you know, above the turbulence and looking down at what's really happening here. | |
| Because this is not just about Alvin Bragg, this Trumped-up charge, pun intended. | |
| This is far bigger than this. | |
| And I think everybody needs to understand this. | |
| This is now going to be a series, a tsunami, if you will, of charges against Donald Trump. | |
| Now, remember, we go to January and February of next year, and we're now in Iowa for caucuses. | |
| We're now in New Hampshire for primaries. | |
| We're headed to South Carolina. | |
| We're headed to Florida. | |
| We're headed to Super Tuesday. | |
| So, you know, none of, I doubt any of these issues will be resolved before then. | |
| And immediately after this, we have what, a civil case based on a charge, and my sources have told me that there's going to be exculpatory information. | |
| That probably will end up being the least of everything, of some kind of sexual assault in a department store dressing room from 27 years ago. | |
| That's the next legal hurdle. | |
| Then you've got, you know, a very, very, if you want to look at the three worst jurisdictions that any conservative or Republican could ever have in terms of being in the criminal justice system, it would be New York City, it would be Washington, D.C., and it would be Fulton County, Georgia. | |
| I know I lived in Georgia. | |
| Those are the three places. | |
| So, you know, if you stand back in all that we have been saying, in 2007, I said on this program and I said it on TV and I said it many times since, and I had no idea how right that I was. | |
| Justice in America today is dead. | |
| Just like I said, journalism was dead in 2007. | |
| It doesn't exist. | |
| We have given you example after example after example. | |
| Hillary Clinton, James Comey, a politicized FBI, a weaponized DOJ, Hunter Biden, and the list goes on. | |
| If you're a conservative, you spit on the sidewalk, you jaywalk, you're going to go to jail. | |
| If you're a liberal, even if you're in Alvin Bragg's New York, and, you know, we got you on videotape and involved in a violent crime or a violent robbery, don't worry. | |
| You'll get out with no bail. | |
| And no matter how long your rap sheet is, you're going to get probably the odds are very high that you'll be reduced to a misdemeanor. | |
| And if you do get a felony charge, well, his track record is he wins about half his cases and loses half of his cases. | |
| So it's that bad. | |
| But I am just telling you to take note. | |
| This is much bigger than this. | |
| They want to drown Donald Trump in legal issues from now until the primary season. | |
| And if in the process they're able to get him in an orange jumpsuit, it'll be that much sweeter to those people that don't care about our Constitution or equal justice or equal application of our law. | |
| Now, there's been a couple of honest Democrats that see this for what it is, but not many. | |
| You know, the country is divided. | |
| If they can get Trump this way, this is great. | |
| This is a time to celebrate. | |
| But the long-ranging effect for the country is devastating. | |
| Because if you don't have a Constitution and every law is based on that document, that is the foundational document for every law we have in this country. | |
| If you don't follow the rule of law, if you don't apply laws equally, if you don't have equal justice and application, then it's a banana republic. | |
| And that is what you're seeing unfold. | |
| And it's going to get worse in the days, weeks, and months to come. | |
| I wish I had better news for you, but I do not. | |
| You know, you see people lining the streets, pre-made signs. | |
| They know the claims. | |
| You know, last night, Sarah Carter did a man on the street interview for the TV show. | |
| And every New Yorker, do you think this would happen to anybody other than Donald Trump? | |
| Of course not. | |
| This is the nothing case. | |
| This is an NDA. | |
| It happens every single time. | |
| Just like, for example, how many companies in New York have company apartments that maybe allow employees to stay at their company apartment? | |
| You know, how many companies pay for drivers for their executives or whatever? | |
| Very common practice. | |
| Maybe did they check everybody to see if that is filed on their income tax return, but they did for Donald Trump. | |
| And New York in particular is very interesting here. | |
| You got a guy that has 52% of the time reduces felony charges to misdemeanors. | |
| You got a guy that is so soft on crime, it is breathtaking. | |
| And we've gone over his record, and I'll go over it even further in a minute. | |
| You know, they seem to now we care more about what? | |
| The feelings of murderers and not the families of the dead? | |
| How many people, why is it we have all these deaths in Chicago and nobody ever knows their names? | |
| Because what, the left can't politicize it, and it's only when they can politicize it that it's, you know, front and center news? | |
| You know, look at what dismantled, no bail laws, defund the police. | |
| What has it gotten us? | |
| Look at open borders. | |
| What has that gotten us but fentanyl and heroin and opioids and cocaine and meth and death? | |
| That's the result. | |
| You know, we care about what, elitist interests while American families are starving and two-thirds of the country live paycheck to paycheck. | |
| And we're supposed to be giving money to foreign countries with a $30 trillion debt. | |
| You know, it's insane. | |
| You know, we leave the people of East Palestine totally, completely unchecked, unvisited. | |
| You know, we have abandoned all energy independence. | |
| We've opened up our borders. | |
| Our economy is an absolute Adam shift show. | |
| And now we have China on the move all over the world in ways that should frighten every single American and alliances now with Russia, Iran, and now the Saudis, they've picked sides. | |
| You know, Saudi Arabia, OPEC, they just decided to cut oil production by a massive amount, 1.3 million barrels less a day. | |
| Why? | |
| Because they're going to drive up the price of oil and you're going to pay for it because of Joe Biden's radical energy and radical economic policies. | |
| That's what they're doing. | |
| But that is now the country we're in. | |
| But let me get back to the big picture. | |
| It's not just brag here. | |
| It's going to be brag. | |
| Then it's going to be a 20, I think it's 27. | |
| You can check the fact on that, Linda. | |
| A sexual allegation, civil case involving, you know, an alleged sexual allegation, misconduct allegation, or worse, I'm not sure what the actual charge is. | |
| And now a civil case is going to bury Donald Trump. | |
| And now more legal fees and more time away from running for president. | |
| And then you're going to move to Georgia. | |
| Well, Hannity, they have not decided to indict him yet. | |
| I would say probably by the end of the month, that's the next shoe to drop. | |
| Then you have a special counsel. | |
| What is the special counsel investigating? | |
| January 6th, the document issued down at Mar-a-Lago. | |
| I noticed Joe Biden's houses didn't get raided. | |
| I noticed that his special counsel allowed Joe's lawyers and other people, I'm not sure if they had security clearances, to go look at the Delaware school where they had, what, 1,800 documents or more. | |
| And they gave him two weeks' notice that they were going to go to his house. | |
| Why? | |
| So he had time to go through the house and clean up any possibility of any document being in there. | |
| Do you really think that Hunter Biden and the Biden family, how much money in business did they do with over a dozen countries starting with China, Russia, Ukraine, and Kazakhstan? | |
| Let's start there. | |
| Apparently, James Comer now has four people that have flipped on the Biden family. | |
| Is that going to ever mean anything? | |
| Well, Hillary Clinton got away with top secret classified information on her server. | |
| Hillary Clinton's house never got raided. | |
| Hillary Clinton, you know, deleted 33,000 emails with bleach bit. | |
| She never got in trouble for that. | |
| Hillary Clinton, you know, had an aide destroy devices with hammers, blackberries, and iPhones. | |
| Hillary Clinton had her team remove SIM cards. | |
| They were missing. | |
| That would sound like a classic obstruction case if you were a conservative. | |
| And then, of course, she bought the dirty Russian disinformation dossier. | |
| And the FBI decided, well, we'll send some agents over and we'll talk to the author of the dossier, Christopher Steele, and we'll offer him a million dollars if he can provide proof and corroborate this thing. | |
| Well, guess what? | |
| They couldn't give him the million dollars because he could corroborate nothing. | |
| And then by the end of that month, they're using it in a FISA application, the top of which says verified. | |
| Well, of all the people that signed the FISA warrants, did any of them, like Comey, get held accountable? | |
| No, they did not. | |
| And then, of course, they had Hunter Biden's laptop. | |
| Now, we have low-hanging fruit there. | |
| We have crack you're, prostitutes, you know, and other issues, you know, lying on a gun application. | |
| And then we've got other big issues. | |
| How much money did this family do in business with these foreign countries? | |
| I want a definitive answer. | |
| How much money of that went into their pocket? | |
| We know Joe Biden lied when he said he never had a single conversation, not one, with Hunter about his foreign business dealings. | |
| Well, is that why he leveraged a billion tax dollars to get a prosecutor fired in Ukraine, who he knew was investigating his son and the business he was doing business with, Burisma. | |
| And then his son stupidly goes on Good Morning America, admits he has zero experience in oil, gas, coal, energy, and Ukraine. | |
| Wow. | |
| Sounds like a quid pro quo, and Joe bragged about it on tape. | |
| When is he going to be held accountable? | |
| You get the point? | |
| Does that sound like equal justice under the law to you? | |
| Does that sound like equal application of our laws? | |
| Justice, 2007, I said journalism is dead. | |
| Now I'm saying equal justice, equal application of our laws. | |
| I've said it before, is dead in America. | |
| Now, thank goodness we have Jim Jordan of the Judiciary Committee, and Jim Jordan is investigating whether or not the FBI is politicized and the DOJ is weaponized. | |
| Apparently, he has FBI whistleblowers. | |
| I'm getting reports behind the scenes. | |
| I'm trying to corroborate them that maybe some of those whistleblowers are being intimidated. | |
| We'll find out in the days and weeks to come. | |
| We will investigate that. | |
| All right, 800-941-Sean, our number, if you want to be a part of the program, we'll have a legal team, Jonathan Turley, at the bottom of this half hour, Greg Jarrett, David Schoen, and much, much more as we continue. | |
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| There was not a mug shot. | |
| There was not a perp walk. | |
| Was not handcuffs. | |
| Do we get an answer on the fingerprint issue? | |
| That was the only one that I had outstanding. | |
| Linda, did we hear on that point? | |
| Because it was going back and forth all day whether that would happen. | |
| Did you get an answer? | |
| My understanding is that he was fingerprinted, but he did not get a mug shot. | |
| Okay. | |
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| All right, so Alvin Bragg is expected to speak. | |
| There's no surprise here. | |
| He did use something that had never been used before, and that is this convoluted, made-up, novel legal theory because the statute of limitations had run out on what would have been a misdemeanor charge, but as a means of overcoming the statute of limitations problem that was very real. | |
| They tried to marry it to an FEC complaint. | |
| When I interviewed the former head of the FEC, the FEC said, no, that's not a violation of law in any way, shape, matter, or form, meaning campaign law. | |
| So it's about, it's everything that we thought this was: 34 felony counts. | |
| It's all regarding payments to Stormy Daniels, Karen McDougal, and it's just one account after another, probably one payment after another, and conspiracy in connection with the hush money. | |
| By the way, NDAs happen every single day, non-disclosure agreements. | |
| So this is what's outrageous. | |
| So I just, let me go back and let me remind you what Alvin Bragg promised the people of New York City he would do if he became the Manhattan District Attorney. | |
| This is what he said. | |
| A lot of people are wondering: whoever has this job, are they going to convict Donald Trump? | |
| Look, that is the number one issue. | |
| I'm the candidate in the race who has the experience with Donald Trump. | |
| I was the chief deputy in the Attorney General's office. | |
| We sued the Trump administration over 100 times. | |
| It'd be hard to argue with the fact that that'd be the most important, most high-profile case. | |
| And I've seen him up front and seen the lawlessness that he can do. | |
| And you believe it should happen. | |
| I believe we have to hold him accountable. | |
| I believe we. | |
| So he runs on a platform and brags about a platform that will target one man, Donald Trump, one organization, the Trump organization, and one family, the Trump family. | |
| And then he said this on, I guess, a public radio station as well. | |
| I think I'm probably the only lawyer in the country who can say, you know, we are right now prosecuting a criminal case against the Trump organization. | |
| When I was in leadership at AG's office, we did the Trump University case. | |
| When I was in leadership at AG's office, I led the Trump Foundation team. | |
| Okay, now keep that in mind while I read off to you, and this was in the Daily Mail. | |
| I told you about the top 10 rap sheets and people that, you know, his soft on crime policies that let career criminals back out on the street. | |
| New York has never been as dangerous as it is right now. | |
| The statistics, they speak for themselves. | |
| You know, if you look at, for example, felony assaults up dramatically under Alvin Bragg. | |
| You look at rapes up dramatically under Alvin Bragg. | |
| You look at all these other crimes, and you see what, and anyone that lives in New York knows exactly what I'm talking about. | |
| So here you have a seven-year-old case, a non-disclosure agreement, which was, by the way, rejected by Mueller, rejected by the FEC, which he's trying to come up with this new novel theory. | |
| This is a new law practice for New York, designed only for one man. | |
| And that should matter to people if you care about equal justice and application of our laws. | |
| So that's what they move forward with in this particular case. | |
| And then you look at what's happening in New York City. | |
| And then you look at the career criminals. | |
| I mentioned one guy, 53 years old, busted dozens of times for larceny, four specific heists from Target alone, 15 convictions, 14 failures to show up in court, rocketed to the NYPD's number one list of repeat offenders following a torrent of thefts. | |
| He has more than 70 arrests for theft alone. | |
| Then you've got a woman, Michelle McKelly, calls herself a professional booster, telling police they wouldn't be able to stop her hustle. | |
| Quote, that's a direct quote. | |
| Michelle Kelly, allegedly confessing to authorities that she was a professional booster. | |
| Y'all are stopping my hustle, she told police after her 97th arrest. | |
| Her favorite store was in Manhattan on the Upper East Side. | |
| Target. | |
| No wonder these stores are leaving cities like San Francisco, L.A., and New York City. | |
| She kept her crimes to petty larceny, a non-jailable offense after the law went into effect, thanks to Alvin Bragg in 2020. | |
| She was finally held on $5,000 bail after her 101st arrest for second-degree assault after she allegedly kicked, bit, scratched, and spit on two NYPD officers on July 30th during an attempt to swipe paper towels from a Dwayne Reed in Harlem. | |
| William Rowland, 30-year rap sheet, robbery charges dropped to petty larceny because of Alvin Bragg's office. | |
| Are you kidding me? | |
| Career criminal Roland, 30 years of crimes under his belt, and he decided to steal $2,000 worth of medication from a drugstore called Dwayne Reed in January of 2022. | |
| He fills a plastic garbage bag with medicine and other items. | |
| Lower East Side of New York, female manager approaches the career criminal before she saw him brandish a pocket knife. | |
| He was charged with first-degree robbery and criminal weapon possession. | |
| But guess what? | |
| Alvin Bragg's department had the robbery charges dropped to two counts of petty larceny, a misdemeanor. | |
| A judge told him he should feel lucky because of Bragg's new policies. | |
| Quote, I don't know if anyone would ever feel lucky standing in front of me in a courtroom, but you might reasonably feel lucky today, the judge said. | |
| Based on your record, you would have faced a long period of time in jail if convicted. | |
| The newly elected DA, his new policies, well, you're not charged with robbery. | |
| You're charged with a misdemeanor here. | |
| Jamie Pringle, another one, 150 arrests. | |
| Should I keep going? | |
| Because I want you to have perspective as to, you know, these are misdemeanors. | |
| He comes up with a new convoluted legal theory to advance, you know, get Trump. | |
| That's all this is. | |
| Anyway, police in this case had previously joked that due to the controversial law that only offered bail for serious offenses, Pringle had amassed a frequent flyer mile in terms of a New York judge said in February of 2022 that it would take me all day to go through your rap sheet. | |
| And this guy is one of the most prolific criminals in New York City. | |
| 167 arrests on his record. | |
| Police, you know, at this point, you know, disgusted and joking due to the controversial laws that offer bail for serious offenses. | |
| This guy had amassed frequent flyer miles, according to the New York Post. | |
| A New York judge said in February of 2022, it would take me all day in your case, again, to go through your rap sheet. | |
| They don't have time for all this. | |
| And you got Rodney. | |
| What, Linda? | |
| You want to interrupt me? | |
| Look at my text. | |
| Okay. | |
| I'm looking at my text. | |
| Okay, Joe Takapina just spoke to the media. | |
| Let's play it. | |
| What is actually a completely political issue into a political prosecution? | |
| And it's not a good day. | |
| It's not a sad day. | |
| I don't expect this to happen in this country. | |
| You don't expect this to happen to somebody who was the president of the United States. | |
| And on the one hand, on the one hand, there's not really any surprises. | |
| I know there was a lot of talk over the past several weeks and the past several days about what's going to be in this indictment and what's going to be there that we don't know. | |
| There must be something besides what we've been talking about for the past four or five years. | |
| There wasn't. | |
| There's nothing. | |
| The indictment itself is boilerplate. | |
| It doesn't allege any federal crime, any state crime that's been violated. | |
| It doesn't allege what the false statement is. | |
| And it's really disappointing. | |
| It's sad, and we're going to fight it. | |
| We're going to fight it hard. | |
| Were you surprised by anything in the indictment? | |
| No. | |
| Were you surprised? | |
| I was surprised there were no facts in there. | |
| I mean, normally in an indictment, you have alleged facts. | |
| So they said that this was a false business record entry to agent of the crime. | |
| We're not saying what the other crime was. | |
| Can you talk about his demeanor? | |
| Trump's reaction was when he saw the charges against when you say what his reaction was. | |
| What do you expect his reaction was? | |
| I mean, his reaction was exactly what would happen if it happened to anybody that I'm looking at now or anybody that's hearing what you're saying. | |
| He's frustrated, he's upset, but I'll tell you what, he's motivated, and it's not going to stop him, and it's not going to slow him down. | |
| And it's exactly what he expected. | |
| And so to that extent, there's no surprise. | |
| But he's also, he's also, he's also. | |
| All right, those were Trump's attorneys. | |
| Let me go back because juxtapose what you just heard and what this case is about. | |
| And we were right about what it was about for the whole time. | |
| Let's talk about Rodney Johnson. | |
| Thanks to Alvin Bragg DA, slap on the wrist just last week after Bragg's office knocked down his felony robbery charges to misdemeanor, according to the New York Post. | |
| The DA's office cut him loose on $1 bail despite breaking the law for the last 35 years. | |
| And of course, he is charged with robbery after alleging a robbery at CBS. | |
| This guy now has broken the law 35 years, and he's out on a $1 bail, originally charged with third-degree robbery. | |
| They drop it to a misdemeanor from menacing and petty larceny. | |
| These people are the most dangerous criminals in New York City, and Donald Trump is being compared to them. | |
| This is insanity. | |
| There's not equal justice under the law. | |
| There's not equal application in our laws in this country anymore. | |
| And I can keep going. | |
| By the way, his rap sheet goes back to 2005 for domestic violence, threatening to kill an ex-girlfriend's daughter. | |
| He went to prison for robbery and grand larceny, but he got set loose by Alvin Bragg. | |
| Then you got Isaac Rodriguez, who was dubbed the man of steel, went on a larceny bender backup, 47 arrests for retail theft, 47. | |
| I mean, according to the NYPD, arrested 23 times. | |
| And what do you think he got? | |
| The same slap on the wrist. | |
| $15,000 bail. | |
| Felonies get reduced to misdemeanors. | |
| This is the only case in the history of New York City where they come up with a brand new legal theory because the statute of limitations had long passed. | |
| And it was passed over by Mueller. | |
| It was passed over by the FEC. | |
| It was passed over by the DOJ. | |
| It was passed over by Bragg's predecessor. | |
| And even Alvin Bragg passed over this as well. | |
| Then this guy, Pomerance, writes a book. | |
| He's embarrassed, and he pressures him into caving to the mob mentality in the media and elsewhere. | |
| This is not justice in America. | |
| This is not the way our system of justice works. | |
| And I'm telling you what they're doing here. | |
| This is bigger than New York. | |
| Then the president is going to have to take on a civil case by a woman that apparently, according to USA, can't remember the actual date. | |
| Was it 1995? | |
| Was it 1996? | |
| That in a crowded department store called Bergdolf Goodman, that in a dressing room, that there was an assault by President Trump in Bergdoff-Goodman, 27 years old? | |
| Are you kidding me? | |
| And then, of course, then you move to, you know, probably if you're going to get tried anywhere, if you're a conservative, if you're a Republican, you don't want to be in a New York courtroom. | |
| You don't want to be in a D.C. courtroom, and you don't want to be in a Fulton County courtroom. | |
| And that's next after that. | |
| And God only knows what the special counsel is even thinking about. | |
| Do you understand? | |
| You know, Alvin Bragg, I played the campaign ad just moments ago, bragging, I've sued Trump over 100 times. | |
| This is a campaign promise to go after one man, one organization, the Trump organization, and one family, that's the Trump family. | |
| That's what's unfolding today. | |
| And then they want this tsunami now of all these charges in the hopes that Donald Trump is drowning in legal issues because they don't want him to run that bad. | |
| That is what has now become so-called justice in America, but we don't have justice in America. | |
| You don't believe me? | |
| Look at the way the Bidens are treated. | |
| Look at the way the Clintons are treated. | |
| Look at the way Jim Comey is treated. | |
| We have gone over these cases extensively again and again and again. | |
| Got to take a quick break. | |
| Right back. | |
| We'll continue. | |
| Now these tough times, there are good organizations doing great things. | |
| You may not know this since Roe v. | |
| Wade in 73, 63 million abortions have taken place in America. | |
| Now through the use of the science of ultrasound, there's a group Pre-Born, and they're doing something about it. | |
| They're saving 100,000 babies' lives so far. | |
| And over the past 16 years, they have partnered with pregnancy clinics in the highest abortion cities, like New York City, for example. | |
| You might not know 65.3% of this nation's abortions occur in only nine states. | |
| $28, you can pay for one ultrasound and help save a life. | |
| $140, you can sponsor five ultrasounds. | |
| And when expecting moms see fingers and toes and facial features, it changes their mind. | |
| It softens their heart. | |
| And they realize that there's something majestic and magical and beautiful growing inside them. | |
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| They cost about $15,000, more than most clinics can afford. | |
| And your donation would then place a machine in a needy pregnancy clinic, saving countless numbers of babies' lives for years to come. | |
| Anyway, they don't get a penny from the federal government. | |
| They only count on your generosity. | |
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| All right. | |
| Or go to their website, preborn.com/slash Sean S-E-A-N. | |
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| When we come back, our legal team will be with us as we continue our analysis of what happened today. |