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Feb. 25, 2023 - Sean Hannity Show
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Fight for Medical Freedom - February 24th, Hour 2
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So these articles start popping up this week, and it has to do with the U.S. ceding authority, if God forbid we had a future pandemic and giving more power to the World Health Organization.
Now, there's been a lot of fact checking, like USA Today, for example, said, no, it is false, the claim that the pandemic accord that we would be making with the WHO has control over future U.S. pandemic policies.
And, you know, which would be the end of American sovereignty if in fact it was true.
Um, but that's not my biggest problem.
I'm I'm I'm glad to hear they're not going that far.
But the biggest problem I see is the United States, time and time again joins these world organizations.
In the case of the WHO, they were as wrong as Fauci.
They were as wrong as everybody else.
They became what was the propaganda arm of the communist Chinese on all things related to COVID.
They basically spread every China lie that was out there regarding COVID.
They did not look out for the world community.
And so I will never trust them.
Uh we ought to be saving money, and one of the best ways we could do it is pull ourselves out of these organizations that are not particularly fond of us and don't enforce American values of liberty, freedom, and capitalism in most cases.
Anyway, here to join is uh Mark Simone, host of the Hit Morning Show on our New York affiliate WOR, and Betsy McCoy is with us, New York Post columnist, TV personality, and of course the former lieutenant governor of the great state of New York, how that happened was a mere accident.
Uh any time a Republican gets a position in power in New York, that it's not meant to be anymore.
Uh Betsy, you've read this.
You've seen the the pushback on this.
Apparently, we're not ceding all authority.
However, we are offering and allowing the WHO to have greater influence than they have now.
And after their handling of COVID, I think that should disqualify them.
Well, that's right.
The World Health Organization has proven itself to be a puppet of the Chinese Communist Party when China uh claimed that the COVID uh virus was not transmissible human to human.
The World Health Organization perpetuated that fraudulent statement rather than insisting on the truth.
And the fact is that this draft agreement would impinge on American sovereignty.
It says that each each country has the ability to manage its own health affairs, except and when you read the last clause of that paragraph, it says where the decisions of that country would affect Health outside the country in the rest of the globe.
That's the biggest cake valve there.
And the fact is that this threat would require the United States to hand over 20% of all its supplies, antiviral treatment, vaccines, other medications, masks, whatever we had to the World Health Organization to distribute.
This would this would result in suffering and death third world style for Americans.
You know, I I can't believe, you know, especially in a time when Americans are at need.
I'm an American first guy, Mark Simone.
I say it should go to Americans first, period.
End of sentence.
Absolutely.
But when you're talking about distribution and supplies, you're talking about a ton of money flowing around.
Massive amounts of money.
And that may not be a coincidence that the greatest influence cuddling president of all wants to make this deal.
The fact that all the fact checkers are trying to deny this is their admission that this is a lousy thing to get involved with the World Health Organization.
It's an international collection of uh bootlegges from every country that can screw up anything.
They have no confidence, they've proved that over and over again.
Hey, I urge everybody, don't ever say anymore, this can't get any worse.
It can't the Biden administration takes that as a personal challenge to find something even worse to do to us.
No, I mean it couldn't get any worse than that.
You know, Betsy, uh, why is there any confidence at all?
Why is the US government always so, especially Democrats so willing to dive in head first with these international organizations that we know historically have not had our best interest at heart?
Giving up twenty percent of whatever is needed in the t in a time of emergency to the rest of the world to me is insanity.
We've got to take care of Americans first, then we can think about helping other people.
And there are two other very scary provisions here.
One is uh a provision against, quote, disinformation.
The World Health Organization will now have the power to try to overcome, quote, disinformation about the next pandemic, right?
So and even worse than that, even worse than that, is that this organization would have the power to invade intellectual property.
So drug companies that are currently working on antiviral medications for the next pandemic, antiviral vaccines for the next pandemic, they're gonna stop.
Because why would they invest tons of money and time investing in something that the World Health Organizations can then say, we own this, we're gonna give this intellectual property to every country in the world so they can all manufacture their own.
You know, Mark are watching in horror all that has been unfolding in East Palestine in Ohio, and and now we've got government officials saying, Oh no, the water is safe.
We have dead fish, but the water is safe.
Uh, the air is safe to breathe, it's okay to go back to your home.
Uh after everything they got wrong in COVID, I will never ever, as long as I live, trust any bureaucrat giving me any medical information, uh, just because they have a political agenda that is far different than the safety and security of the American people.
I I they ne they could not have been more wrong on every aspect involving COVID than they were.
Don't forget, they made the exact same statements after 9-11 about the air quality, and uh they were totally wrong about that.
And where are the environmentalists on this?
This is the biggest environmental disaster we've seen in America, and they're totally silent on it.
Well, what answer that question?
Why are they silent?
That's a great point.
I haven't heard from any of them.
Uh, because it's a uh Democrat in office.
If this were Donald Trump, he would be getting attacked left and right for the greatest environmental disaster ever.
They try to pin this on them with those deregulations, even though the National Trappation Safety Board said there's no connection.
And you notice the fact checkers are on strike on that particular topic.
They won't even write about it.
Yeah, cr it's insane.
You know, Betsy, how come any nobody ever gets held accountable for these lies?
I mean, I remember during the debate over Obamacare, you you would carry around with you the legislation that probably weighed what, five hundred pounds, but you'd carry it to every interview you did, and you knew more about it than anybody else, and everything we try to warn people about, they wouldn't keep their doctors, they wouldn't keep their plans, they wouldn't be saving money, turned out to be true.
We're now at the point where The average American is paying two hundred and fifty percent more than they were before Obamacare, and forty percent of the country fully only has one Obamacare option on top of the millions that lost their doctors and lost their plans.
That's right.
And remember when you could buy health insurance any day of the year, now you have to buy it during these special open enrollment periods, right?
Everyone has lost out on Obamacare, except people who are uninsured.
And we could have written a check to buy each of those uninsured people a very nice health plan and left the rest of America alone, and everybody would have been better off.
They would have had their doctors and much better care.
All right.
So we have all these other options, health care savings accounts.
I like those.
Uh I've talked at length and we've had on this program many, many times.
Dr. Josh Umber, uh he started this co- co-op uh cooperative health care cooperative.
It's only fifty dollars a month for adults, ten bucks a month for kids, you have unlimited access to doctors twenty-four-seven.
It includes telemedicine if if your kid has the croup in the middle of the night, whatever it happens to be.
Uh when you leave the doctor's office, ninety percent of the time you're gonna leave with whatever medicine he prescribes for you, uh, and he buys that at a great discount, so you're paying night it's ninety percent off in most cases, the the drugs that you know he's prescribing to his patients.
Uh why aren't they in embracing modern medicine technology like telemedicine, for example?
I remember my kids would get the croup and I'd have I'd be up all night with them, go to the hospital, I'd hold steam over them for you know, four hours, and then eventually they'd give them a steroid and we'd go home and they'd be fine rather than just doing it in the beginning.
That's right.
And that they these uh sharing accounts, these medical sharing accounts are a very, very good deal, and I would urge many, many more people to look into them.
But you you put your finger on the right thing, Sean, which is that the government is simply lying to us.
Look at FEMA.
Look at FEMA, Federal Emergency Management Agency.
I call it FEMA now stands for something different.
It stands for first embrace migrants and aliens.
Because the fact is FEMA is that those buses, when the migrants roll into New York and DC and other cities from the southern border, FEMA FEMA paid uh workers are right there to hand them hotel rooms, food, uh rental assistance, even legal assistance.
But when the East Palestine people got hit with a tremendous disaster, FEMA made them wait two weeks for anything and they wouldn't even say it would they wouldn't even give them the basic most fundamental uh emergency declaration that would have provided immediate aid.
They wouldn't do it, and I don't know why.
About nothing.
They didn't get any of the things that the migrants coming off those buses in New York and DC get all courtesy of FEMA.
That's it.
Migrants first, American blacks.
That's why these policy.
You know, in your beloved city, Mark Salone is one of these few rare people that for whatever reason actually loves New York City.
Why Mark loves New York City is a mystery upon mysteries.
Nobody knows why Mark loves New York City.
But he does.
And you see what's happening to your city with crime because of defund and dismantle and no bail laws.
Uh, you see what's happening to your city, you know, with with all the illegal immigrants now that have moved to New York City, and yet you still love the city.
That is a mystery to me.
Why?
Hey, I'm looking out the window right now at rush hour gridlock.
Obviously, I'm not the only one who stayed.
Everybody else is here.
Uh you stayed, but the reason is you're too smart to stay.
You it you become Mr. New York, but I guarantee you you could become Mr. Palm Beach or Mr. Miami if you want as well.
Palm Beach, I gotta wear a white belt and white shoes.
Never.
Okay.
I've been to Palm Beach and I don't have a white belt, and I don't have uh white shoes, and I wouldn't wear them if I did have them.
I'm laughing.
You both have national uh big national reputations.
You don't need to wear white pants, white belt.
No, I'm never wearing white pants.
I'm never wearing white shoes.
By the way, and I'm never wearing shoes without socks on, uh, like everybody seems to do down there.
It's great in New York.
The criminals wouldn't be here if there weren't people to rob.
Everything is well, they well, you really you really spell it out all the great reasons to come to New York to get robbed, to get beaten, to get mugged, uh, and to pay, you know, an extra thirteen percent of your ink income in uh taxes.
That's great, Mark.
Oh well, you do have me on that one, but uh you you you'll see it start to creep into other states.
You get enough Democrats moving down to Florida.
It's not creeping into Florida.
Florida's gaining a thousand people a day, almost a thousand.
New York is losing almost a thousand people a day.
Doesn't that tell you something?
It sure does.
And you know what?
The Biden administration is trying to destroy all the suburbs that uh people have already fled to.
Now the Biden administration is saying every single town in America has to have an equity plan and build high-rise affordable housing.
So if you've spent your whole life saving up for a nice little house with a patch along where your kids can play on a quiet street, you've got a target on your back.
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And I'm Carol Markowitz.
We've been in political media for a long time.
Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.
That's why we started Normally, a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity.
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What I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi.
Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word.
One that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
You put two and two together.
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
I'm Leon Nayfock from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries.
This is Fiasco Benghazi.
What difference at this point does it make?
Yeah, that's right.
Locker up.
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Continue with Betsy McCoy and Mark Simone on this Friday.
Then we'll get to your calls 800-941 Sean.
So, Mark, under no circumstances would you ever leave New York City?
Never.
Never.
Never in the world.
It's been through this before.
It always comes back every time.
Well, let me tell you what's gonna happen when you die.
And I don't mean to be morbid here.
My accountant will I'll meet with him once a year.
I don't understand 90% of what he's telling me, but I just listen.
And I always get the lecture.
Whatever you do, don't die a New York resident.
And I'm like, I'll try my best.
I'll work out any arrangement, God's willing to work out with me.
And the reason is when you die, Mark, another 10% uh goes to New York State in in the form of a death tax on top of the 40% federal death tax.
Does that not motivate you?
Why don't you give the money to me?
I'll take it.
Uh well, first of all, uh, you're gonna get taxed to death uh everywhere in New York.
You just get used to that.
You just learn to live with it.
Uh but you're making my point.
Why are you giving them money?
What are you getting for it?
The first time ever you got me stumped.
Mark's never been stumped in his whole career.
Oh man.
You not and you can't tell me it's a Broadway show, because if you want to see a Broadway show, fly up.
Get it, get a get a nice hotel room at the hotel of your choice.
Hey, what the fuck?
Go see the stupid play that you want to see, which bore me to tears, and then you can fly home.
But you work in New York, you feel the energy, the excitement.
I watch the show every night, live audience.
They all look dressed up, beautiful, and they all look happy.
That the audience is happy, but you know, there's there's only about a few thousand of us that can come to the show because the rest of them don't agree with me.
Anyway, we love you both.
Uh, have a great weekend.
Mark Simone, uh, Betsy McCoy, we love having you on.
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I had to become president to show you I could do that better than anybody.
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People having a blast.
This poor lady last night, by the way.
And it's free.
It's free.
Well, yeah, totally free.
And so I throw footballs out all during the show.
And this poor and people fight for them like cats and dogs.
And you got 150 people in there fighting for every football I throw out.
And anyway, this poor lady, balls bouncing all over the place, boom, popped her in the air.
Now it's a nerf ball.
It's not a regular football.
And she I so she didn't even get the ball.
So I walked up there and I handed her one and I handed her mom one, and her cousin had already gotten one.
She was pretty cool about it.
I felt bad for her, though.
Well, yeah, I mean, when you peg somebody in the eye, you should feel bad.
That's not exactly the idea.
Let's see Hannity get hit in the eye.
Linda, it's a nerf football.
I'm sorry, should we practice on you now?
Well, I'm not saying it's not an easy place to do it.
I'm not saying that it didn't hurt.
I'm saying that, you know, it's not something that's going to hurt you severely.
Great.
But I felt bad.
Come to Hannity, get hit, not hurt severely.
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All right, let's go to Craig is in the uh high tax state of California where they're running record deficits.
But it's gonna end up being what, forty trillion dollars this year under Gavin Newsom, your great governor.
Yeah, Sean, that's horrible, isn't it?
I can't believe I'm still here.
Yeah, exactly.
Why are you there?
Good question.
Well, I'm planting the seeds with the boss, and she runs the show, and I've learned in sixty-two years to listen to the boss.
So you have no say in your basically saying that you have no say in your marriage, that it's not an equal partnership, that your wife gets to decide everything of great importance.
No.
I'm seeing happy wife, happy lives.
No, that's not what you're saying.
You're saying you're weak.
You don't have the courage to stand up to your wife and and strongly fight for your position, which is uh, honey, we'd be a lot better off financially if we'd get the hell out of here, and you don't even have the courage to bring it up, do you?
Oh, no, no.
We talk about it all the time.
We're looking at uh North Texas or Tennessee, actually.
Okay, so but so far she's winning and you're losing.
Well, yes, but we have a constraint on her her occupation right now, but um I've got to get her out of the state before we get grandkids.
Otherwise, I'll never get her out of the state.
So I think uh I wish you the best of luck.
But I'm gonna make a bold prediction.
You ain't leaving.
You're you're gonna lose.
We'll see about that.
I can lock her up in my big rig and holler across the biggest.
Oh, that that's a brilliant idea.
Lock up your wife and a bigger.
If you bring Sean, he'll peg her in the eye with nerf balls.
It'll be a perfect relationship.
Oh my gosh, the poor lady.
Uh so but you no, you you why don't you just acknowledge you've lost?
Because I haven't.
It's it's I'm playing the long game, not the short game.
You're playing the long game.
How old are you?
Sixty-two.
Okay, you still have a little bit of time.
But if your grandkids are gonna be born in California, you now just remind your wife that there are there are there's a great invention.
They're called airplanes.
And it's a short flight from Texas to California.
It's not that bad.
Or you could even drive it, you know, get yourself maybe a fam van or something, uh, and go out and drive from Texas to California.
Well, I'll tell you what, I I I I'm planting all the seeds as far as the realization of just the tax advantage of being in Texas or Tennessee.
She could fly back here and spend time with the girls and uh do it on a more regular basis than what we do now from Northern California into Southern California.
But um, like I said, I'm playing the long game.
I'm not gonna push.
And uh we're we're probably about realistically about eighteen months away.
Um, so we'll see what happens here.
All right, I'm betting on her side, but I hope you win for your sake.
And by the way, you might want to convince your children to move it with you so that the whole family can build a new life in Texas and you'll all be together.
That's another option.
Well, that's what we're we're considering.
I I want to get forty acres and then we can build a couple places of five acre parcels and uh have the kids be close enough to us and and uh now you're thinking out of the box.
Now you're thinking creatively.
Create an environment, say, you know, sweetheart, uh I uh if we sell our house at this price, I'll be able to get X number of acres and we'll be able to build a family compound and we can live together forever until God calls us home.
How's that argument?
You know what?
Um how about if you give us a call back around six PM Pacific Standard Time and and she'll be here to discuss that.
Oh, you want me to well if you want me to negotiate because you're you're kinda too wimpy to do it, I'll do it for you if you need me to.
I mean, I've been called into this kind of service in the past in my life.
Hey, Sean, I'm far from wimpy.
Uh with all due respect, you're not showing great strength here.
You're not showing what he's showing is dexterity to stay married.
Oh, yeah, no.
You just want him to haul his wife out of the state and just like tired of name.
I am against the idea.
You should just give it away.
Okay, I'm not Bam Bam, and I'm not Fred Flintstone and I'm not Don Lemon.
I love Fred and Bam Bam.
They were lovely men.
I just couldn't continue.
And Barney Rubble, and I'm but I'm not Don Lemon, so that's not how I view Oh no, I think I think men should be worship the women in their lives.
I don't think anybody worship anybody.
I think well I I think you should cater with all your heart, mind and soul to the women in your life, and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't work.
However, if you offer her the right incentives, I think you can get this deal done.
I agree.
I agree.
But right now, like I said, right now, without going into detail, she's she's set in her career.
We moved from Southern California to Northern California for her career.
And uh I made a deal with her that, you know, hey, we'll do this and I'll start over uh from what I was doing, and and uh she she's got a couple more years, maybe about eighteen months before we can make an a legitimate move where it won't be Craig is worshipping his wife and allowing her.
I admire the love and partnership you're describing with you and your wife, and I hope it all works out for you, okay?
How did that feel coming out of your mouth?
It felt good?
You like saying that?
That felt good, right?
It didn't feel for us.
Uh okay, well we'll leave it at that.
Poor Craig, Craig never even got to his point yet.
Yeah, what's your point, Craig?
Okay.
So listening to that uh uh the four-person on on the uh indictments or the special counsel, whatever you want to call it there.
Um it's just a continuance of of the Adam Shift show.
I mean, that guy would go in behind closed doors, say one thing, come out, leak everything to the to the media.
Well, this four person's doing the exact same thing by not getting his specifics, but she's mentioning how many pages there might have been and the spacing and she's making all these implications for the news media just to Well, she's telling how many people probably were indicted, she's uh giving information uh about different witnesses.
All of this is supposed to be top secret.
And i I I now have it memorized that if you take the oath as a grand juror, you should you shall keep the deliberations of the grand jury secret unless called upon to give evidence thereof in some court of law in the state, and you should not discuss the case with your fellow jurors or anyone else outside the jury room.
Now, she also disclosed that the prosecutors and the jurors were having ice cream parties.
That would be highly inappropriate as well.
So my guess is that everybody involved in this case on the other side is preparing legal briefs that will be presented to a judge.
They probably want to do it right, so they they're gonna take their time.
I'd expect by next week sometime that these briefs are made public and that the briefs will make a powerful statement that this grand jury has been tainted and that this information should be forever uh disposed of.
Yeah.
I I agree.
It it's a thing where they're gonna come out, fabricate a whole bunch of the the indictments from no facts again, and uh and they're seeing what the media's gonna run with the public and see what sticks.
And again, nothing's gonna stick.
And there won't be any apologies that it'll be fluffed under the rug and down down the road or down the river to the bigger.
Listen, in this current system where we don't have equal justice under the law, you might be right, but time will tell.
I'm guessing if the law is followed, this is done.
This grand juror did everybody that might have been indicted or recommended for indictment a favor.
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Doug is in Alabama.
Doug, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hey, good afternoon, definitely.
I was a retired railroad conductor.
Forty-one years out there.
Oh wow, it's a long time on the road.
How are you doing?
Pretty good.
I barely made it.
But anyway, uh, I was gonna try to clarify a little bit with you on those defect detectors and how they run the journal boxes off.
On the railroad, that's uh wreck in Palestine.
Yes.
What what I gather is that it wrung a journal off.
What happens is those bearings seize up.
Yeah, well, what happened apparently the bearings went above two hundred degrees in terms of temperature and the warning light went on, uh, but apparently it was dealt with after the fact, and that was apparently the cause of the derailment.
Yeah, yeah, they have those defect detectors, all they tell you is the temperature when you go over 'em and uh how far the car is from the engine.
And uh you're supposed to stop, and evidently it got too hot, and when they stopped the break uh each car has its own set of brakes and it goes on the wheels, and when that pressure went against that wheel, it just snapped it right off.
Yeah, I mean that part of it is sad, accidents do happen.
There are far too many derailments for my liking.
Uh but that you seem to know your business because that's exactly what I read that the bearing got too hot, the the warning sign uh signal went off on it.
They tried to stop it, they weren't able to, and this is the net result of it.
Then with all these toxic chemicals inside, they had to make a decision, and I'm not questioning the decision to do a control burn.
I am questioning uh whether I'm questioning the after effects and whether or not they're telling the people of Palestine the truth, and I'm questioning the slow response of Buddha Judge and Biden and everybody else.
Well, they're not telling them the truth because you get a consist on that thing that tells you exactly what's in it.
And if you have any kind of dangerous loads, and it'll tell you things on there like evacuate for a radius of a mile and a half and put dykes before any water gets into the creeks and things like that.
And you have to do all that immediately.
And evidently they didn't do that at first.
They didn't do it at first, and they weren't paying attention, and they didn't seem to care.
And it's ironic because uh the Democratic Party claims to be the party of environmentalism.
Anyway, Doug, thank you.
Forty-one years in in being a conductor, amazing career you've had.
Uh every conductor I've ever met I thought was a cool guy.
Nice guy.
Uh not an easy job, you're dealing with the public.
Mark is in Ohio.
Mark, how are you?
Glad you called on this Friday.
Uh, doing well, Sean.
How are you doing?
I'm good.
What's happening?
So, I mean, Doug just shed some light on uh what I was going to talk about, and that is uh um you know how the uh the situation was mitigated, and uh I feel like maybe the manufacturer of the chemicals should have been brought in as to how to um you know avoid uh you know a huge disaster that occurred.
Uh I would think that they would uh have a better way of handling this and uh Norfolk Southern and the governor of Ohio coming in and say, Let's burn this off.
I would think the manufacturer would have a better handle on things.
And second, you don't like the decision of the slow burn at that point, even though it was spilling out apparently into the ground, etc., which would get into the groundwater and and into the air.
What I heard was uh Governor DeWine stating that uh the experts, which was Norfolk Southern and himself, uh, agreed that it should be burned off.
Again, I think the manufacturer, the chemicals would have a better handle on how to uh, you know, minimize or mitigate uh a uh worse situation.
I don't know if they were brought in at that point.
That's a good question.
I'd not read anywhere whether they were.
Um I obviously they're not responsible for the derailment.
Um the chemical companies aren't.
That would be Norfolk Southern that would be responsible.
And um, I don't know how that decision was made.
Uh I'm not questioning it yet because I haven't heard a better solution.
I don't know what else they could have done.
Well, the one thing we can say with certainty, it wasn't handled properly.
It wasn't handled expeditiously.
Uh they didn't seem to care, and all the so-called environmental climate alarmists, uh cultists uh were nowhere to be found, which I find interesting.
But uh we'll find out in time, Mark.
Uh, my my guess is a lot of mistakes were probably made in the moment.
We'll find out, you know, after it's way too late as usual.
Uh appreciate the call, my friend.
God bless you.
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