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So these articles start popping up this week, and it has to do with the U.S. ceding authority if, God forbid, we had a future pandemic and giving more power to the World Health Organization.
Now, there's been a lot of fact-checking, like USA Today, for example, said, no, it is false to claim that the pandemic accord that we would be making with the WHO has control over future U.S. pandemic policies, and, you know, which would be the end of American sovereignty if, in fact, it was true.
But that's not my biggest problem.
I'm glad to hear they're not going that far.
But the biggest problem I see is the United States, time and time again, joins these world organizations.
In the case of the WHO, they were as wrong as Fauci.
They were as wrong as everybody else.
They became what was the propaganda arm of the communist Chinese on all things related to COVID.
They basically spread every China lie that was out there regarding COVID.
They did not look out for the world community.
And so I will never trust them.
We ought to be saving money.
And one of the best ways we could do it is pull ourselves out of these organizations that are not particularly fond of us and don't enforce American values of liberty, freedom, and capitalism in most cases.
Anyway, here to join is Mark Simone, host of the Hit Morning Show on our New York affiliate, WOR.
And Betsy McCoy is with us, New York Post columnist, TV personality, and of course, the former lieutenant governor of the great state of New York.
How that happened was a mere accident.
Anytime a Republican gets a position in power in New York, it's not meant to be anymore.
Betsy, you've read this.
You've seen the pushback on this.
Apparently, we're not ceding all authority.
However, we are offering and allowing the WHO to have greater influence than they have now.
And after their handling of COVID, I think that should disqualify them.
Well, that's right.
The World Health Organization has proven itself to be a puppet of the Chinese Communist Party.
When China claimed that the COVID virus was not transmissible human to human, the World Health Organization perpetuated that fraudulent statement rather than insisting on the truth.
And the fact is that this draft agreement would impinge on American sovereignty.
It says that each country has the ability to manage its own health affairs, except, and when you read the last clause of that paragraph, it says where the decisions of that country would affect health outside the country in the rest of the globe.
That's the big escape valve there.
And the fact is that this draft would require the United States to hand over 20% of all its supplies, antiviral treatments, vaccines, other medications, masks, whatever we had, to the World Health Organization to distribute.
This would result in suffering and death third world style for Americans.
You know, I can't believe, you know, especially in a time when Americans are at need.
I'm an American first guy, Mark Simone.
I say it should go to Americans first, period, end of sentence.
Absolutely.
But when you talk about distribution and supplies, you're talking about a ton of money flowing around, massive amounts of money.
And that may not be a coincidence that the greatest influence peddling president of all wants to make this deal.
The fact that all the fact checkers are trying to deny this is their admission that this is a lousy thing to get involved with the World Health Organization.
It's an international collection of Buddha judges from every country that can screw up anything.
They have no confidence.
They prove that over and over again.
Hey, I urge everybody, don't ever say anymore.
This can't get any worse.
The Biden administration takes that as a personal challenge to find something even worse to do to us.
No, I mean, it couldn't get any worse than that.
You know, Betsy, why is there any confidence at all?
Why is the U.S. government always so, especially Democrats, so willing to dive in headfirst with these international organizations that we know historically have not had our best interest at heart?
Giving up 20% of whatever is needed in a time of emergency to the rest of the world, to me, is insanity.
We've got to take care of Americans first.
Then we can think about helping other people.
And there are two other very scary provisions here.
One is a provision against, quote, disinformation.
The World Health Organization will now have the power to try to overcome, quote, disinformation about the next pandemic, right?
And even worse than that, even worse than that, is that this organization would have the power to invade intellectual property.
So drug companies that are currently working on antiviral medications for the next pandemic, antiviral vaccines for the next pandemic, they're going to stop.
Because why would they invest tons of money and time investing in something that the World Health Organizations can then say, we own this.
We're going to give this intellectual property to every country in the world so they can all manufacture their own.
You know, Mark, we're watching in horror all that has been unfolding in East Palestine and Ohio.
And now we've got government officials saying, oh, no, the water is safe.
We have dead fish, but the water is safe.
The air is safe to breathe.
It's okay to go back to your home.
After everything they got wrong in COVID, I will never, ever, as long as I live, trust any bureaucrat giving me any medical information just because they have a political agenda that is far different than the safety and security of the American people.
They could not have been more wrong on every aspect involving COVID than they were.
Don't forget, they made the exact same statements after 9-11 about the air quality, and they were totally wrong about that.
And where are the environmentalists on this?
This is the biggest environmental disaster we've seen in America, and they're totally silent on it.
Answer that question.
Why are they silent?
That's a great point.
I haven't heard from any of them.
Because it's a Democrat in office.
If this were Donald Trump, he would be getting attacked left and right for the greatest environmental disaster ever.
They try to pin this on him with those deregulations, even though the National Transportation Safety Board said there's no connection.
And you notice the fact checkers are on strike on that particular topic.
They won't even write about it.
Yeah, it's insane.
You know, Betsy, how come nobody ever gets held accountable for these lies?
I mean, I remember during the debate over Obamacare, you would carry around with you the legislation that probably weighed, what, 500 pounds, but you'd carry it to every interview you did, and you knew more about it than anybody else.
And everything we tried to warn people about, they wouldn't keep their doctors, they wouldn't keep their plans, they wouldn't be saving money, turned out to be true.
We're now at the point where the average American is paying 250% more than they were before Obamacare, and 40% of the country fully only has one Obamacare option on top of the millions that lost their doctors and lost their plans.
That's right.
And remember when you could buy health insurance any day of the year, now you have to buy it during these special open enrollment periods, right?
Everyone has lost out on Obamacare, except people who are uninsured.
And we could have written a check to buy each of those uninsured people a very nice health plan and left the rest of America alone, and everybody would have been better off.
They would have had their doctors in much better care.
All right.
So we have all these other options, healthcare savings accounts.
I like those.
I've talked at length and we've had on this program many, many times.
Dr. Josh Umber, he started this co-op, cooperative, healthcare cooperative.
It's only $50 a month for adults, $10 a month for kids.
You have unlimited access to doctors 24-7.
It includes telemedicine if your kid has the croup in the middle of the night, whatever it happens to be.
When you leave the doctor's office, 90% of the time, you're going to leave with whatever medicine he prescribes for you.
And he buys that at a great discount.
So you're paying 90% off in most cases, the drugs that he's prescribing to his patients.
Why aren't they embracing modern medicine technology like telemedicine, for example?
I remember my kids would get the croup, and I'd be up all night with them, go to the hospital.
I'd hold steam over them for four hours, and then eventually they'd give them a steroid, and we'd go home and they'd be fine rather than just doing it in the beginning.
That's right.
And these sharing accounts, these medical sharing accounts, are a very, very good deal.
And I would urge many, many more people to look into them.
But you put your finger on the right thing, Sean, which is that the government is simply lying to us.
Look at FEMA.
Look at FEMA, Federal Emergency Management Agency.
I call it, FEMA now stands for something different.
It stands for First Embrace Migrants and Aliens.
Because the fact is, FEMA is that those buses, when the migrants roll into New York and D.C. and other cities from the southern border, FEMA, FEMA paid workers are right there to hand them hotel rooms, food, rental assistance, even legal assistance.
But when the East Palestine people got hit with a tremendous disaster, FEMA made them wait two weeks for anything.
They wouldn't even give them the basic, most fundamental emergency declaration that would have provided immediate aid.
They wouldn't do it, and I don't know why.
About nothing.
They didn't get any of the things that the migrants coming off those buses in New York and D.C. get, all courtesy of FEMA.
That's it.
Migrants for American Blacks.
That's five new policies.
You know, in your beloved city, Mark Simone is one of these few rare people that, for whatever reason, actually loves New York City.
Why Mark loves New York City is a mystery upon mysteries.
Nobody knows why Mark loves New York City, but he does.
And you see what's happening to your city with crime because of defund and dismantle and no bail laws.
You see what's happening to your city, you know, with all the illegal immigrants now that have moved to New York City.
And yet you still love the city.
That is a mystery to me.
Why?
Hey, I'm looking out the window right now at Rush Hour Gridlock.
Obviously, I'm not the only one who stayed.
Everybody else is here.
You stayed, but the reason is you're too smart to stay.
You've become Mr. New York, but I guarantee you, you could become Mr. Palm Beach or Mr. Miami if you want as well.
Palm Beach, I got to wear a white belt and white shoes.
Never.
Okay, I've been to Palm Beach, and I don't have a white belt, and I don't have white shoes, and I wouldn't wear them if I did have them.
I'm laughing.
You both have national, big national reputations.
You don't need to wear white pants, white belts.
No, I'm never wearing white pants.
I'm never wearing white shoes.
By the way, and I'm never wearing shoes without socks on like everybody seems to do down there.
It's great in New York.
The criminals wouldn't be here if there weren't people to rob.
Everything is.
You're really spelling out all the great reasons to come to New York to get robbed, to get beaten, to get mugged, and to pay, you know, an extra 13% of your income in taxes.
That's great, Mark.
Well, you do have me on that one, but you'll see it start to creep into other states.
You got enough Democrats moving down to Florida.
It's not creeping into Florida.
Florida is gaining 1,000 people a day, almost 1,000.
New York is losing almost 1,000 people a day.
Doesn't that tell you something?
It sure does.
And you know what?
The Biden administration is trying to destroy all the suburbs that people have already fled to.
Now, the Biden administration is saying every single town in America has to have an equity plan and build high-rise affordable housing.
So if you've spent your whole life saving up for a nice little house with a patch of lawn where your kids can play on a quiet street, you've got a target on your back.
All right, quick break right back on this Friday, 800-941-Sean on number more with Mark Simone, Betsy McCoy on the other side, then your calls.
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What I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
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And I'm Carol Markowitz.
We've been in political media for a long time.
Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.
That's why we started Normally, a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity.
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We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously.
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What I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
You put two and two together.
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
I'm Leon Napok from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries.
This is Fiasco, Benghazi.
What difference at this point does it make?
Yes, that's right.
Lock her up.
Listen to Fiasco, Benghazi, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Continue with Betsy McCoy and Mark Simone on this Friday.
Then we'll get to your calls, 800-941-Sean.
So, Mark, under no circumstances would you ever leave New York City?
Never.
In the world.
It's been through this before.
It always comes back every time.
Well, let me tell you what's going to happen when you die.
And I don't mean to be morbid here.
My accountant, well, I'll meet with him once a year.
I don't understand 90% of what he's telling me, but I just listen.
And I always get the lecture, whatever you do, don't die a New York resident.
And I'm like, I'll try my best.
I'll work out any arrangement God's willing to work out with me.
And the reason is when you die, Mark, another 10% goes to New York State in the form of a death tax on top of the 40% federal death tax.
Does that not motivate you?
Why don't you give the money to me?
I'll take it.
Well, first of all, you're going to get taxed to death everywhere in New York.
You just get used to that.
You just learn to live with it.
But you're making my point.
Why are you giving them money?
What are you getting for it?
For the first time ever, you're going to be stumped.
Mark's never been stumped in his whole career.
Oh, man.
And you can't tell me it's a Broadway show because if you want to see a Broadway show, fly up, get a nice hotel room at the hotel of your choice.
Go see the stupid play that you want to see, which bore me to tears, and then you can fly home.
But you work in New York.
You feel the energy, the excitement.
I watch your show every night, live audience.
They all look dressed up, beautiful, and they all look happy.
The audience is happy, but there's only about a few thousand of us that can come to the show because the rest of them don't agree with me.
Anyway, we love you both.
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People having a blast.
This poor lady last night, by the way.
And it's free.
It's free.
Well, yeah, totally free.
And so I throw footballs out all during the show.
And people fight for them like cats and dogs.
And you got 150 people in there fighting for every football I throw out.
And anyway, this poor lady, the ball's bouncing all over the place.
Boom, popped her in the.
Now it's a nerf ball.
It's not a regular football.
And so she didn't even get the ball.
So I walked up there and I handed her one and I handed her mom one.
And her cousin had already gotten one.
She was pretty cool about it.
I felt bad for her, though.
Well, yeah.
I mean, when you peg somebody in the eye, you should feel bad.
It's not exactly the idea.
Come see Hannity and get hit in the eye.
Linda, it's a nerf football.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Should we practice on you now?
Well, I'm not saying the eye is not an easy place to be.
I'm not saying that it didn't hurt.
I'm saying that, you know, it's not something that's going to hurt you severely.
Great.
But I felt bad.
Come to Hannity, get hit, not hurt severely.
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All right, let's go to Craig is in the high-tax state of California where they're running record deficits.
It's going to end up being what, $40 trillion this year under Gavin Newsome, your great governor?
Yeah, Sean, that's horrible, isn't it?
I can't believe I'm still here.
Yeah, exactly.
Why are you there?
Good question.
Well, I'm planting the seeds with the boss, and she runs the show.
I've learned in 62 years to listen to the boss.
So you have no say in your marriage.
You're basically saying that you have no say in your marriage, that it's not an equal partnership, that your wife gets to decide everything of great importance.
No, I'm singing happy wife, happy lives.
No, that's not what you're saying.
You're saying you're weak.
Why don't we just call this for what it is?
You don't have the courage to stand up to your wife and strongly fight for your position, which is, honey, we'd be a lot better off financially if we get the hell out of here.
And you don't even have the courage to bring it up, do you?
Oh, no, no.
We talk about it all the time.
We're looking at North Texas or Tennessee, actually.
Okay, so but so far she's winning and you're losing.
Well, yes, but we have a constraint on her occupation right now, but I've got to get her out of the state before we get grandkids.
Otherwise, I'll never get her out of the state.
So I think I wish you the best of luck, but I'm going to make a bold prediction.
You ain't leaving.
You're going to lose.
We'll see about that.
I can lock her up in my big rig and haul her across State Lake.
Oh, that's a brilliant idea.
Lock up your wife and bring Sean.
I'll peg her in the eye with nerf balls.
It'll be a perfect relationship.
Oh, my gosh, the poor lady.
So, no, why don't you just acknowledge you've lost?
Because I haven't.
I'm playing the long game, not the short game.
You're playing the long game.
How old are you?
62.
Okay, you still have a little bit of time.
But if your grandkids are going to be born in California, now just remind your wife that there's a great invention.
They're called airplanes.
And it's a short flight from Texas to California.
It's not that bad.
Or you could even drive it, you know, get yourself maybe a fan van or something and go out and drive from Texas to California.
Well, I'll tell you what, I'm planting all the seeds as far as the realization of just the tax advantage of being in Texas or Tennessee.
She could fly back here and spend time with the girls and do it on a more regular basis than what we do now from Northern California to Southern California.
But like I said, I'm playing the long game.
I'm not going to push.
And we're probably about realistically about 18 months away.
So we'll see what happens here.
All right.
I'm betting on her side, but I hope you win for your sake.
And by the way, you might want to convince your children to move with you so that the whole family can build a new life in Texas and you'll all be together.
That's another option.
Well, that's what we're considering.
I want to get 40 acres and then we can build a couple places, the five-acre parcels, and have the kids be close enough to us.
Now you're thinking out of the box.
Now you're thinking creatively.
Create an environment.
Say, you know, sweetheart, If we sell our house at this price, I'll be able to get X number of acres and we'll be able to build a family compound and we can live together forever until God calls us home.
How's that argument?
You know what?
How about if you give us a call back around 6 p.m. Pacific Standard Time and she'll be here to discuss that?
Well, if you want me to negotiate because you're kind of too wimpy to do it, I'll do it for you if you need me to.
I mean, I've been called into this kind of service in the past in my life.
Hey, Sean, I'm far from wimpy.
With all due respect, you're not showing great strength here.
You're not showing.
What he's showing is dexterity to stay married.
I don't want to end the marriage over this.
Oh, yeah, no.
You just want him to haul his wife out of the state and just like Tyron McNeil.
I am against the idea of chaining her.
I'm not going to be able to do this and a toga with your name on it.
You should just give it to me.
I'm not Bam Bam, and I'm not Fred Flintstone, and I'm not Don Lee.
I loved Fred and Bam Bam.
They were lovely men.
I just couldn't keep them.
And Barney Rubble, but I'm not Don Lemon, so that's not how I view.
I think men should worship the women in their lives.
I don't think anybody should worship anybody.
Well, I think you should cater with all your heart, mind, and soul to the women in your life.
And sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't work.
However, if you offer her the right incentives, I think you can get this deal done.
I agree.
I agree.
But right now, like I said, right now, without going into detail, she's set in her career.
We moved from Southern California to Northern California for her career.
And I made a deal with her that, you know, hey, we'll do this and I'll start over from what I was doing.
And she's got a couple more years, maybe about 18 months before we can make a legitimate move where it won't be.
See, Craig is worshiping his wife.
I admire the love and partnership you're describing with you and your wife.
And I hope it all works out for you, okay?
How did that feel coming out of your mouth?
It felt good.
You like saying that?
That felt good, right?
It didn't feel for you, Sean.
Okay, well, we'll leave it at that.
Poor Craig, Craig never even got to his point yet.
Yeah, what's your point, Craig?
Okay, so listening to that, the four-person on the indictments or the special counsel, whatever you want to call it there, it's just a continuance of the Adam Schiff show.
I mean, that guy would go in behind closed doors, say one thing, come out, leak everything to the media.
Well, this four-person is doing the exact same thing by not getting his specifics, but she's mentioning how many pages there might have been and the spacing.
And she's making all these implications for the news media just to.
Well, she's telling how many people probably were indicted.
She's giving information about different witnesses.
All of this is supposed to be top secret.
And I now have it memorized that if you take the oath as a grand juror, you shall keep the deliberations of the grand jury secret unless called upon to give evidence thereof in some court of law in the state.
And you should not discuss the case with your fellow jurors or anyone else outside the jury room.
Now, she also disclosed that the prosecutors and the jurors were having ice cream parties.
That would be highly inappropriate as well.
So my guess is, is that everybody involved in this case on the other side is preparing legal briefs that will be presented to a judge.
They probably want to do it right, so they're going to take their time.
I would expect by next week sometime that these briefs are made public and that the briefs will make a powerful statement that this grand jury has been tainted and that this information should be forever disposed of.
Yeah, I agree.
It's a thing where they're going to come out, fabricate a whole bunch of the indictments from no facts again, and they're seeing what the media is going to run with the public and see what sticks.
And again, nothing's going to stick.
And there won't be any apologies.
It'll be fluffed under the rug and down the road or down the river.
Listen, in this current system where we don't have equal justice under the law, you might be right, but time will tell.
I'm guessing if the law is followed, this is done.
This grand juror did everybody that might have been indicted or recommended for indictment a favor.
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Doug is in Alabama.
Doug, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hey, good afternoon, Gaffney.
I was a retired railroad conductor 41 years out there.
Oh, wow.
It's a long time on the road.
How are you doing?
Pretty good.
I barely made it.
But anyway, I was going to try to clarify a little bit with you on those defect detectors and how they run the journal boxes off on the railroad.
That wreck in Palestine.
Yes.
What I gather is that it rung a journal off.
What happens is those bearings seize up.
Yeah, well, what happened?
Apparently, the bearings went above 200 degrees in terms of temperature, and the warning light went on.
But apparently, it was dealt with after the fact, and that was apparently the cause of the derailment.
Yeah, they have those defect detectors.
All they tell you is the temperature when you go from and how far the car is from the engine.
And you're supposed to stop, and evidently it had gotten too hot.
And when they stopped, the brake, each car has its own set of brakes, and it goes on the wheels.
And when that pressure went against that wheel, it just snapped it right off.
Yeah, I mean, that part of it is sad.
Accidents do happen.
There are far too many derailments for my liking.
But you seem to know your business because that's exactly what I read: that the bearing got too hot.
The warning sign signal went off on it.
They tried to stop it.
They weren't able to.
And this is the net result of it.
Then with all these toxic chemicals inside, they had to make a decision.
And I'm not questioning the decision to do a controlled burn.
I am questioning whether I'm questioning the after effects and whether or not they're telling the people of Palestine the truth.
And I'm questioning the slow response of Buddha Judge and Biden and everybody else.
Well, they're not telling them the truth because you get a consist on that thing that tells you exactly what's in it.
And if you have any kind of dangerous loads, and it'll tell you things on there like evacuate for a radius of a mile and a half and put dikes before any water gets into creeks and things like that.
And you have to do all that immediately.
And evidently, they didn't do that at first.
They didn't do it at first, and they weren't paying attention, and they didn't seem to care.
And it's ironic because the Democratic Party claims to be the party of environmentalism.
Anyway, Doug, thank you.
41 years in being a conductor, amazing career you've had.
Every conductor I've ever met, I thought was a cool guy, nice guy.
Not an easy job.
You're dealing with the public.
Mark is in Ohio.
Mark, how are you?
Glad you called on this Friday.
Doing well, Sean.
How you doing?
I'm good.
What's happening?
So, I mean, Doug just shed some light on what I was going to talk about, and that is how the situation was mitigated.
And I feel like maybe the manufacturer of the chemicals should have been brought in as to how to avoid a huge disaster that occurred.
I would think that they would have a better way of handling this than Norfolk Southern and the governor of Ohio coming in and say, let's burn this off.
I would think the manufacturer would have a better handle on things.
And second.
So you don't like the decision of the slow burn at that point, even though it was spilling out apparently into the ground, et cetera, which would get into the groundwater and into the air.
What I heard was Governor DeWine stating that the experts, which was Norfolk Southern and himself, agreed that it should be burned off.
Again, I think the manufacturer of the chemicals would have a better handle on how to minimize or mitigate a worse situation.
I don't know if they were brought in at that point.
That's a good question.
I've not read anywhere whether they were.
Obviously, they're not responsible for the derailment.
Of course.
The chemical companies aren't.
That would be Norfolk Southern that would be responsible.
And I don't know how that decision was made.
I'm not questioning it yet because I haven't heard a better solution.
I don't know what else they could have done.
The one thing we can say with certainty, it wasn't handled properly.
It wasn't handled expeditiously.
They didn't seem to care.
And all the so-called environmental climate alarmists, cultists were nowhere to be found, which I find interesting.
But we'll find out in time, Mark.
My guess is a lot of mistakes were probably made in the moment.
We'll find out after it's way too late, as usual.
Appreciate the call, my friend.
God bless you.
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