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We have more follow-through after, you know, Mayor Pothole Pete finally made his way to East Palestine in Ohio yesterday, and he was confronted by many people on the ground.
Probably the dumbest thing that I saw is him wearing his dress shoes.
I don't know.
I've been on too many construction sites in my life to know that you probably want to put on your boots if you even have a pair, but I guess he probably doesn't have one.
Anyway, here's him being confronted.
The American public doesn't seem to be very confident in your ability to do your job.
Will you be resigning anytime soon?
I'm not here for politics.
I'm here to make sure the community can get what they need.
Will you apologize?
I want to be able to do that.
I apologize for the response.
For the slow response, taking your time.
Please say the residents who say you're tuned in today.
Well, I say that we're with residents right now.
As the Secretary, we're going to be here before as we were in the first hour.
What I tried to do is balance two things.
My desire to be involved and engaged and on the ground, which is how I am generally wired to act, and my desire to follow the norm of transportation secretaries.
Follow the norm doesn't mean when you have a controlled chemical burn that's that's resulting in dead fish, dead animals, and people with health conditions.
Following the norm doesn't mean you stay away for three weeks.
Michael Barrish is with us, and he's with Barish and McCary, representing more than 35,000 9-11 responders and survivors.
We've talked at length about the long-term health problems of people that were down to ground zero.
I remember myself being down there broadcasting in the days after 9-11.
And I could tell you for days and days and probably weeks, I don't recall, I remember this ash flying all over like it was snowing outside.
But unfortunately, those people that were at ground zero and trying to do the rescue and recovery effort ended up getting a lot of health problems.
Michael, welcome to the program.
Thanks for being with us.
Sean, thanks for having me.
But I got to tell you, it wasn't just the first responders who have had health problems.
It was the 300,000 office workers, the 50,000 students and teachers, and the many downtown residents, thousands of them, who were assured by the EPA.
Remember when Christine Todd Whitman assured us the air is safe to breathe.
I do remember that.
But I can tell you from my own experience, Michael, I remember when I went down there to broadcast, I knew damn well it wasn't safe for me to be there in terms of my lungs and my health, et cetera.
But I made a decision.
My decision was I have a job to do and I'm going to do it.
But, you know, those people that were telling people in New York and New Jersey that were down to ground zero, lived down there, that it was safe, I mean, just it was snowing ash.
You can't tell me inhaling, you know, ash is good for your lungs.
It's not.
I know.
Listen, my office is two blocks away on Park Place.
And when we heard Todd Whitman say the air is safe to breathe, we thought we were doing our duty as Americans.
And we came back, even though those buildings were on fire for 99 days.
And when I heard last, you know, two weeks ago, the EPA say the air is safe, shivers went down my spine.
What a deja vu, as Yogi Berrow would say, all over again.
Because people have to know this is not safe for them to be in this area because the water has been infected.
There's stuff in the air.
And the scientists, and I don't trust the EPA, excuse me, but I didn't.
By the way, I don't trust them either, and I don't believe a word they're saying.
Right.
You know, so I represented Detective James Zedroga, for whom Congress named the Zedroga Health and Compensation Act.
They created the Free World Trade Center Health Program, which is what I'd like to see happen here, by the way, and the Victim Compensation Fund.
When they did the autopsy of Jimmy Zedroga in 2006, he died of pulmonary fibrosis at the age of 34.
They found ground glass in his lungs, which obviously we're not going to find here ever.
But they also found chromium, lead, benzene.
These are all known carcinogens after being assured the air is safe.
And by the way, yes, Sean, you made a decision to do your job, like I made a decision to do my job and be a lawyer.
But, you know, the kids at Stuyvesant High School, at the other 20 schools in Lower Manhattan, they just did what their parents told them to do.
You know, we have to stop just believing politicians.
We have to stop believing the EPA administrators who, frankly, aren't scientists.
We should leave it up to the scientists here because I fear we're going to see an explosion.
Yeah, but when you say scientists, you've got to be a little more specific than that.
Because the government has their scientists that have a political agenda.
I'm talking about objective scientists.
Did you see the video of Senator JD Vance, and he went to where some of the fish had died in a stream, and he just took a stick, and he kind of shook the water a little bit, and percolating up comes this, like, what looked like an oil slick of slime.
Right.
Clearly from the chemicals that had been dispersed into the air and clearly had impacted that stream.
Look, we learned from the, if we learned nothing else from the World Trade Center, we now know that 9-11 didn't end on 9-11.
And after this chemical spill out in Ohio, it didn't end because the EPA said the air is now safe, the water safe to drink.
It made me sick to watch that photo op of the politicians drinking water.
Let me tell you something.
I wouldn't let anybody, let alone a child, drink the water in Ohio.
And you know that that smoke flew all the way over Pennsylvania into western New York.
We need to have independent scientists, not who work for the government, not who work for the railroad, and not who work, frankly, for the law firms that have been flooding this area to sign up cases.
And that's why I encourage Congress.
So I ask you this, because families now are facing a really tough dilemma.
Two-thirds of Americans leading up to this, because of the Biden economic and energy policies, are living paycheck to paycheck.
Many are tapping into their pensions because they can't make ends meet.
Many are going, you know, paying things on their credit card and building up credit card debt.
And so now they're stuck with this position.
They're being told that it's safe.
And they know deep in their heart that it probably isn't.
And many are headed home because they don't have a plan B.
They can't afford a plan B, which means that they've got to go back to the neighborhood, back to the home.
And that means the air is what it really is, and the water is what it really is.
And the danger is what it really is.
And they don't know, but yet they're being told with certainty that it's safe.
And I don't believe it.
I don't believe it either.
The government should do the right thing.
The federal government, the Ohio government, create these camps with tents.
Let the Red Cross spearhead this and get them out of Dodge so that we can bring in independent people who we trust.
Because we know in five or 10 or 15 years, look, it took NIOSH 10 years before the 68 cancers now linked to the World Trade Center toxins were considered presumed linked to exposure to the World Trade Center does.
That's probably how long it'll take.
But we know that blood cancers, the latency period of blood cancers is only eight months.
You have to protect yourselves, protect your families.
I know, listen, my heart breaks for these people who don't have the money.
And let's keep politics out of it, Sean.
I know you've got a political show and you're trying to hit the government.
I'm being fair and straight here when I say- Wait a minute.
I'm not playing politics, but there are people that are supposed to be in charge here.
And the person that's the president is Joe Biden, and Joe Biden decided to go to Kyiv and not to East Palestine.
Pete Buttajudge waited weeks, and now we have people in the government, Joe's government, telling us it's safe.
Sorry, but that's political because they're the ones right now that have the power that are telling the people of East Palestine something that I don't believe is true.
You know what?
Great conversation we're having.
With all due respect to Budajudge and Biden, they aren't scientists.
There's nothing that they could do helpful at this point.
There'll be plenty of time for blame.
You're wrong.
What they should be doing is saying exactly what you're saying.
Bring in independent scientists and make a determination, a full determination, what water's safe, what water's not safe.
Is any water safe?
Is the air safe?
Is it secure?
Is it livable?
What are the possible long-term impacts if you go back too early?
They should be the ones already planning to build the tent cities or alternate locations where people can live in the interim until things are better for them to go back to their homes.
So it does have to do with politics.
The people in power have an obligation to do their freaking job.
Sadly, the people in power today didn't learn the lessons of Bush and Christine Todd Whitman.
All they wanted to do was assure Americans that everything's safe.
Go back to work.
Go back to school.
Reopen Wall Street.
They treat us like children.
Whether you're a Democrat or Republican, show a little respect for Americans and tell us.
Just show the people of East Palestine that it's safe.
Give us a determination.
Is it safe?
Is it not safe?
Is the water safe to drink or is it not safe to drink?
If it's not safe to drink, is the air safe enough to breathe?
Because you can bring in water from other places.
We can get water for them to drink.
We can find alternatives.
You can't find an alternative for the air that you breathe.
And that's why you have to stay out of the area a 10-mile radius, I would suggest, until independent, not working for the railroad, not working for the EPA, come in and assure us.
And until then, do what you can.
Call your friends, call your neighbors, and say, can I stay with you until this is clear?
You and I are on the same page here.
I'm just saying it doesn't matter whether you're a Democrat or a Republican, this air was.
No, what matters is that the people in power now happen to be Democrat, and I'm demanding that they do the very things you're saying.
Right.
And they didn't learn the lessons of Bush from 21 years ago, and that's what's so scary to me.
I don't remember the, was it Christy Todd Whitman at the EPA that said the air was safe?
Absolutely.
I do remember that, and I do remember not believing it then.
Well, you were smarter because, but look, you were still down there, but you made an educated choice, and I hope you.
It was snowing, dust and debris.
I mean, snowing.
Yeah.
I mean, I was in an upper floor overlooking ground zero, and it was snowing on the upper floor.
What was it snowing?
It wasn't snow.
It was dust and debris that was floating.
And I don't know how many weeks that went on, but it was happening every day that I was down there.
Yeah, the buildings were on fire for 99 days, and the cleanup took eight months.
I only had a small office of 15 people at the time.
My secretary Liana died of breast cancer.
My paralegal dentist died of kidney cancer, both at the age of 47.
I'm a prostate cancer survivor.
My secretary Barbara has lymphoma.
I mean, the small office, half the people have cancer or who have died.
Not a day goes by, Sean, without two of my 9-11 clients.
Let me ask you a question: Why did you stay?
Because I was doing my duty that the president at the time, President Bush, said, come back to work.
Let's show our enemies we're resilient and we are strong.
And I believed the EPA when they said it was safe, even though the buildings were on fire.
Quick break more with Michael Barish on the other side.
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All right, discussing the fallout environmentally in East Palestine with Michael Barish.
He's with Barish and McCary represented 35,911 first responders and survivors.
Now, there was a way to have workers at the site working, but that would have required top sophisticated respiratory equipment for anybody that went down there.
They didn't do that either.
Look, I could tell you, I made a mistake once when I was a kid.
I used to spray paint my own cars, and I once used one of those horrific white masks instead of a real respirator.
And I used a paint called Emeron, and I painted an old black van that I had, and my lungs burned for like three months afterwards because of the chemical reaction of the paint.
I should not have been painting with that inferior mask that I was using.
I once had a shot of my lungs, and they said you have scarring on your lungs.
I'm like, Yeah, it probably happened when I painted that truck.
Yeah, but look how cool you look driving that cool truck down the neighborhood.
But you asked me why.
But that truck, by the way, had a real gloss to it with gold, with little gold sparkles inside it.
It was an awesome-looking truck.
Oh, you must have been the most popular kid in your neighborhood.
But listen, those fires were burning so hot.
Remember the gasoline from the jet fuel kept them going?
These guys couldn't wear respirators down at ground zero.
That's what the, I represent over 10,000 firefighters.
They tell me they could not communicate wearing their masks.
They couldn't breathe.
So they took the risk because they were looking for their buddies at first.
No, I admire all of them, and I know that what you're talking about is real, but if it wasn't efficient then, they should were smart enough.
We send people to the moon and back, we could have developed something that would have been safe.
And they should have made that determination and they should have thought about the long-term health effects.
And now that we learn from that mistake, let's not make the same mistake again.
That's my argument.
Yeah, and I accept your argument, but we already have made the mistake.
There's already been the exposure.
It's been a lot of exposure.
I agree.
I'm worried about the people in East Palestine.
Well, let's keep the politicians out and get the independent scientists in.
I agree with you completely.
I don't want to hear from Pete Booty judge.
He's not a scientist.
He's an idiot.
With all due respect to President Trump, who signed the Zadroga bill and for whom I am forever grateful, we don't know him coming in either.
He's just in for a photo op.
Let's admit it.
No, he wasn't in for a photo op.
He brought attention to what's going on there.
So he brought water with him, and he is bringing the attention so that we do get it right.
And if he were president, I doubt he would have gone to Ukraine.
I think he would have gone to East Palestine.
Well, that's another subject.
No, it's not another subject.
That's a subject for right now.
And I'm telling you, there's a big difference between Trump and Biden.
Huge.
There was plenty of time for Biden to go, and he dropped the ball by not going.
But I think him going to Ukraine.
I really do.
Okay, but he made the wrong choice.
It should be America first.
He can do both.
You can choose.
It should be America first.
You can do both.
America first.
We agree.
We agree.
Thank you.
You finally are getting some common sense.
We appreciate you being with us.
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Biden goes to Ukraine, offers another half a billion dollars.
Well, as I told President Zelensky when we spoke in Kyiv yesterday, I can proudly say that our support for Ukraine remains unwavering.
And as I told my Russian counterpart, not all it's a while now, I said you're seeking the finalization of NATO.
You're going to get the NATOization of Finland.
And it turns out I didn't know Sweden was coming along as well.
Now the U.S. is committing another $2 billion in drone and drones and ammunition aid to Ukraine.
That brings us to like $120 billion.
But yet Joe Biden continues to veto any Western European country from giving Ukraine the fighter jets that they would need to fully and to get on an equal playing field and battle Vladimir Putin, who has free reign of Ukrainian skies.
It's unbelievable to me.
And meanwhile, Europe has only put in about $30 billion, $5 billion from Germany, $5 billion from the Great Britain.
This is in their backyard.
This isn't our backyard.
And now we have Putin threatening to even go into other countries.
What is Joe going to do then?
Probably nothing.
What's Joe going to do when Taiwan is invaded by China?
Probably nothing.
You know, here's Janet Yellen, you know, saying our support for Ukraine is lasting and unconditional, and they're going to send them another $10 billion over the next nine months.
Let me make clear, the United States and the Allies.
Our support for Ukraine will be lasting and is unconditional.
We stand with Ukraine and want to support Ukraine.
Of course, there's the immediate need for military equipment, and we've responded positively to many of the requests that Ukraine has made for advanced military equipment that should give them an edge.
In addition to that, they need ongoing economic support.
We've already provided $13 billion in support, and there's an additional $10 billion that we expect to provide over the next nine months.
And then to add insult to injury, Tony Blinken says he defends depleting our weapons stockpiles in this very uncertain time to support Ukraine.
No, we cannot give up.
Like, for example, we shouldn't be selling our strategic petroleum reserves, but Joe Biden is doing that, and he's importing 3 million barrels of oil now a day from Venezuela.
Now he's going to prop up Venezuela's economy so they can be another well-funded enemy of the United States.
It's insane.
Here's Blinken.
We're providing weapons as well.
And forgive me if this is a question that should be self-understood, but does that mean that that puts us in a position of a disadvantage?
Do we have enough weapons for ourselves to protect and serve this country?
David Martin reported just last night that we have low stockpiles in some key areas.
And if there were a conflict, we'd run out of, for example, air to ship missiles very quickly.
So I can tell you that the Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Mark Billy, are extremely vigilant about making sure that whatever happens, we always have what we need to defend ourselves wherever it's needed.
At the same time, of course, these weapons have had a real effect on Russia's military.
Russia's got about 80% of its ground forces committed to Ukraine.
And they are taking terrible losses, terrible losses in personnel, public accounts, 200,000 killed or wounded.
And then their own tanks, their own weaponry is being destroyed by the Ukrainians.
Unbelievable.
Let's get to our busy phones.
All right, let's say hi to Jay is in Texas.
Jay, hey, how are you?
Happy Friday.
Glad you called.
The reason that I called, Sean, was I wanted to talk about the grand jury process and how flawed I believe it is.
And some of the reasons that I feel that way are.
Well, first of all, they pack a room with 100 people and then they say count from one to 100.
Anybody with an even number, okay, y'all can go home.
Then anybody left, there's 50 left.
And then they say, let's do that again.
And then everybody with an odd number, y'all can go home.
So we're left with 25 people.
Okay.
And then the guy comes in and he tells everybody just how just how easy it is and that all you got to do is let's cover this docket.
We've got 30 cases on the docket today.
And if we get through them all, you get to go home early.
And, you know, I'm going to harken back to your description about the ice cream parties that the prosecuting attorneys.
Well, remember, this grand jury was convened for some nine months.
Who has nine months of their life to give up to a grand jury?
The rest of us have to work.
Yeah, exactly.
Well, I wasn't, this is down in Mac Allen, Texas, okay?
And we had about 30 cases on the docket that day.
And he kept harping on the faster we get these true bills out of here, the faster we can go.
So if you're a person who's indicted or who has to go before a grand jury to see whether you're going to be indicted or not, it's horrible.
I mean, you're probably going to get indicted because if you can fog a mirror, you can get on a grand jury.
Okay?
I mean, there's no, they don't interview you.
They don't talk to you.
At least when I did it, they didn't.
Okay.
I don't know what the problem is.
Well, you've heard the saying, you can indict a ham sandwich, right?
Exactly, yes.
And truthfully, the system is grotesquely flawed, Sean.
It needs to be completely revamped.
They need to vet the jurors.
OK, they need to enter the jurors, find out if they're going to be.
I can tell you one way that if you want to get out of jury duty and you work for me when they ask you what you do for a living, everybody on my TV or radio staff that's ever been called the jury duty.
I work on the Sean Hannity show or I work on Hannity, the TV show on Fox.
You're dismissed instantly.
Instant dismissal.
That is not true.
I think they liked me a lot more.
Did you get picked?
I just feel like that if you get selected to be on a grand jury, you need to go in there with a John Desai because they are so motivated in convincing and coaching you to give them true bills rather than a no-bill.
You know the difference.
Okay.
A true bill means you're indicted.
A no-bill means you're not.
Okay.
And so I don't know if it's just the grand jury I was on or I probably would imagine that it is.
But here, you're an educated person.
There are many people that don't know.
They're only getting the prosecution side of the argument.
They're not getting, they're not hearing anything from the defense.
And that, to me, is fundamentally unfair.
Now, think about this.
Anybody that has ever worked for me that got jury duty, got called for jury duty, and they go in, at some point they ask what you do for a living.
And everybody that has ever said I work for Sean Hannity has been dismissed instantaneously.
They never picked for a jury.
Why do you think that is?
Well, yeah, because it's biased.
But without going into specifics, okay, and without naming names or anything, one of the cases that they brought before us, okay, this is how flimsy the evidence was.
The guy got caught with a few kilos of cocaine in his trunk.
Go figure in Mac Allen, Texas, okay?
Anyway, he got caught with a few kilos of cocaine in the trunk of his car.
And they started telling me, I started asking, well, why did you pull the guy over in the first place?
Because I believe in people they have rights, okay?
And there's certain things.
Well, they said he looked in his rearview mirror too many times while I was following him.
I said, excuse me?
I raised my hand again.
I'm the thorn in their side.
They hate me already because they know that they screwed up and they should have kicked me off the jury quick, fast, and in a hurry, but they didn't.
They selected me and I got there.
And so I asked the witness that they brought before us, I said, well, what made you think that he was hauling dope?
I mean, was there dope falling out of the back of the car?
In other words, was there a reasonable cause to believe that something nefarious was going down?
That's what you're asking.
A very good question.
Yeah, and here was his answer.
Here was his answer.
Well, I was following him.
He looked suspicious.
I choked, okay.
Let me ask a little deeper.
Why did he look suspicious?
Well, he kept looking in his rearview mirror repeatedly.
By the way, if I have a cop following me and I'm driving, I usually will check the rearview mirror more than usual.
Well, I stayed on that guy's case until finally enough of the jurors around me started going, yeah, yeah, you know what?
Yeah, they got out of their stupid little box where they were told to just say yes, okay?
Just say true, Bill, and we'll be done with this.
So what did you do in the end?
And so I finally, a few of the people started kind of going, you know what, man, he just got a point there, you know?
So that guy got no-bills, and he got caught with key loads of Coke in his trunk.
Then it should he have gone, should he have gone to court, probably.
But you know what?
You're innocent until proven guilty in this country, and you have rights.
And I don't like the rubber stamp mentality that has befallen all of our court systems now.
Nowadays, it used to be that you were innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable shadow of a doubt.
And now it's almost like it's a foregone conclusion.
You're going down if we say so because we're the government and we're authoritarian and you're the peon and you're going down and your rights, devil may care.
Listen, you're describing the reality of what the process is and the process is beyond flawed.
And here you are, you're trying to be diligent and thorough and get to the bottom of why you should vote to indict somebody, which changes the trajectory of their lives.
In this case, it sounds a little bit like a slam dunk, but you were asking a pertinent question.
What was your reasonable cause for pulling this guy over?
That is a legitimate legal question.
And if they didn't have a real reason to pull him over, then you have to question police tactics at that point.
But anyway, Jay, I think you shined a light on something people need to know.
I appreciate you being there, my friend.
Leslie is in Ohio this Friday.
Leslie, how are you?
Glad you called.
Not too bad.
How are you?
Good.
What's going on?
I just called in.
I wanted to thank you for all of your truth and you telling it like it is and explaining things to us that the people that are in charge are supposed to be telling us the truth, but they're not.
Example, COVID.
You've never sugarcoated COVID.
You have told what should have been said to the American people.
It was never explained to us the way it should have been.
But you always tell what you know, who you know it from.
You bring in experts to know what they're talking about.
And you're always truthful.
Well, I appreciate your kind words.
I will tell you, there was a lot of pressure, Leslie, brought on this show and my TV show for me to tell people what to do.
And I refused to do it.
And in retrospect, I am so grateful that I allowed my common sense to guide me and didn't give in to the pressure.
But there was a lot of pressure being brought to bear on me to tell people, oh, you got to get the shot.
And I'm like, I don't believe that's the case.
I don't think everybody should.
And I put on doctors that had varying opinions.
And I would always say to people that you've got to do your own research.
You've got to look at your own medical history, your current medical condition, and you've got to look at the research involving the emergency use authorization of these vaccines.
We had the guy that created the mRNA technology, Dr. Robert Malone, on the program.
We had people that believed in therapeutics on the program.
If you had COVID, what were your options available?
And I didn't tell people what to do.
I just told people they were available.
The one therapeutic that I seemed to believe the most in was monoclonal antibodies.
And I said to ask your doctor, if you got a positive COVID test, to ask your doctor if you're eligible and it would be something that they would recommend.
Then you get to decide with your doctor.
But I try to do exactly what you're describing.
And I appreciate that you notice that we're trying.
And, you know, some people still got mad at me no matter what I did here.
Anyway, unfortunately, I'm just out of time.
Leslie, we appreciate your kind words.
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