Sean Hannity Show - Guest Host Jonathan Gilliam

Dec. 28, 2018 - Sean Hannity Show

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Guest Host Jonathan Gilliam

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	Quite often during the Christmas vacation, as you can tell my voice is a little scratchy, but I like to think it's more like Barry White today.
	Because I over Christmas.
	Yes, that's right.
	I slept about 16 hours each day because I was on prescription cough medicine.
	And now I'm back, I'm healthy, and I'm ready to talk about some incredible news today, some stuff that's been going on.
	I mean, we all know, you know what's interesting about the news is things happen, and we're all w it's not a surprise anymore how vicious the news is or how ridiculous it is in the way that it's reported.
	I I'm sitting right here looking at an article on Fox News.com about Jim Carey and how he is calling Trump supporters loyal zombies.
	This is coming from a guy who's the biggest robot and says everything that he believes he thinks he's enlightened, and everything that he is saying is a complete repeat of what other people say before him.
	And that's the way it it is 2018.
	If I have to put into a category when it comes to liberals in the way, and I hate saying this, folks, I hate saying it, because I I did, you know, I've been doing my own show in the evenings on social media called the experts for a long time.
	And a friend of mine's uh mom or aunt was watching one time, I think it was her aunt, and she said, um, she and she's liberal.
	They live in California, and she said um that she didn't really appreciate the fact that I kept milking in liberal ideology with leftists, and I get that.
	I actually do get that.
	And I and I appreciate the fact that she said that.
	And I actually asked her to tell her and to watch again so that I could make sure that she, you know, didn't feel ostracized so I could explain that to her.
	But this is what I have to explain to liberals, not just leftists.
	I have to explain this to liberals this year, is that 2018 actually is the year when the nonsense of the leftist, the ideologies of the left, the tactics, techniques, and procedures, if you will, of the left, came into full swing and has overtaken liberals and their minds and the way that they approach things.
	Now, there's there's plenty of ways to solve most problems in in the world and in this country.
	Quite frankly, I'm more concerned about this country right now.
	But I don't expect everybody to come at it like saying, I belong to this political party, I only believe in these solutions.
	That that is nonsense, all right.
	You're never going to find in any operational capacity, whether it's in military and law enforcement or in business or in medicine, you're never gonna hear somebody say it has to be treated this way.
	The operation has to be carried out this way.
	It must, because that's the way we believe.
	I mean, if you fight wars like that, or if you treat diseases like that, or if you have a doctor that you go to and he says, Well, I belong to this train of thought, and this is the only thing that we the only way that we treat this, you're in you need to get away from that doctor.
	And the same thing goes in military and law enforcement.
	You have to be flexible.
	And that's the problem I have with political parties is the fact that they're not flexible.
	We believe in this, and we believe in this, and they never go outside the box.
	I most of everything I do is outside the box, and I'm okay with that.
	And so what what's happened now in 2018 to the left is that people who I've known for a long time who are liberal have now they have literally subscribed to the mindset of these far leftists, and it's become mainstream, so mainstream in their uh terminology that it's leaked its way over into the right.
	And I even hear people coming back, veterans coming back from overseas, looking at the news and saying, well, you know, in the case we'll talk about Eddie Gallagher, Navy SEAL who's been uh what I believe is uh wrongly charged and held in in uh in the brig in California since September 11th.
	Why would they arrest a guy on September 11th?
	We're gonna talk more about this later.
	But it's gotten to a point now where the terminology for people coming back, and I talked to people in the military, I've had people call in on radio shows, and they say, Well, that was a non-combatant.
	That was a civilian.
	We're talking about an ISIS, a member of ISIS, uh, who everybody else that he was fighting with was killed except for this particular person, and they're calling the prosecution in the case is calling that person a non-combatant.
	I mean, this is the this is leftist ideology.
	And it's gotten to a point where even not just liberals, but conservatives are using these these terms.
	The media is using these terms.
	And 2018 has been the progression of this to the point where this nonsensical type of thinking that's on the far, far left, further than anybody that I know, this radical thinking on the left has leaked its way into Mainstream terminology.
	And we 2019 has to be the year where the citizenry of this country says, all right, listen, we got to we've got to start looking for effective solutions.
	And we have to stop.
	We have to stop allowing radicals and radical ideologies to secrete their terminology and their rage into our minds.
	Media needs to really clamp down on this stuff.
	You know, I I love Drudge and Fox News.com and the way they treat uh, for instance, now we have a mass killing, a lot of the times they will not say the name of the killer.
	I agree with that.
	Well, I think they need to start doing the same thing with stories like about Jim Carrey.
	You know, don't even report that story.
	Jim Carrey, listen, it may be a little salacious to put it on the headline, but don't put it up there.
	Well, you're gonna get just as many clicks.
	People are gonna watch just as many shows.
	Just leave that stuff off there.
	Because you know what?
	Jim Carrey and so many of these people on the left are irrelevant.
	They what Jim Carrey wakes up and thinks about or does from the time he wakes up to the time he goes to bed makes no difference in your life or mine.
	And I think 2019 should be the year when we finally say enough is enough, no more of this spin that gets people so frustrated.
	Let 2019 be the year where certain media outlets we can never count on CNN or MSNBC or these other outlets to ever do this.
	But certain news outlets should say, okay, enough.
	Let's do what we can.
	Forget about whether or not something is fake news or real.
	Let's stop putting stuff out there, printing it, putting it online that's going to enrage people that is just opinion for people who don't affect the country whatsoever, like Jim Carrey.
	Don't even put it on there.
	And then for the people, for the citizens of this country, what you have to do is start turning that off.
	Don't click on it.
	Don't look at it.
	Don't even worry about uh what The View said or Joey Bayhart or Jim Carrey or any of these people.
	Don't it doesn't matter in your life.
	Literally, in the time you could click on that story and read it, you literally have lost.
	I want you to think about this.
	You have lost time in your life that you could go out and actually do something, touch somebody's life.
	Pet a dog, smile, take a hot bath.
	I don't know, anything that brings you joy or helps other people, you've wasted it by sitting and and looking at something.
	You know, next time, instead of looking at a story about Jim Carrey or somebody like that, if you're on Twitter or something, just tweet out, I hope everybody has a nice day.
	You're never alone in if you have depression or something.
	Tweet something out like that.
	I'm here for you.
	And just go on with your life.
	Don't worry about what these people think and say.
	You know, as having an incredible conversation with several people last night.
	I got to see my good buddy Louis Gomer after he was uh hosted this show yesterday.
	I I love that guy.
	If if all people in Washington, D.C. were like Louie Gomer, uh, you know what would be the case?
	We wouldn't be hearing about politics every day.
	We'd just we'd just be living and having solutions in government.
	There wouldn't be a shutdown.
	But unfortunately, we don't have that.
	That's not the Louis is the exception, not the norm.
	But I got to have a great conversation with him last night and uh and Kylie and um Carrie Pickett, who's uh an amazing reporter.
	And I was talking about how I wrote a story for uh Hannity.com a while back about um mainstream media and they have no more right to be in the White House uh than we do.
	You can't just go up to the White House and say, hey, I want to uh I want to ask the president some questions.
	You go and try to do that and see what happens.
	You're gonna be questioned for being crazy.
	You're not gonna get in there and get and they're not gonna give you your own room, right?
	Or you could say, I own a big business, right?
	I own a big business, I'm an important person.
	I'd like to go in there and ask questions about the economy.
	You're not gonna get to do that.
	So why should a media outlet that is nothing more than uh uh an information collection business be allowed in the White House, be allowed in the defense department, be allowed in any in the State Department, in any of these federal agencies.
	Well, here's what they say.
	I'm not even going to say his name, but the knucklehead who yelled at um at uh Sarah Huckabee Sanders telling her she need to do her job one day when she uh cut the uh the press conference short.
	Uh I tweeted out to him, he tweets back at me with some asinine response about how I don't know what I'm talking about.
	Well, I'll tell you I do know what I'm talking about, okay?
	Because that guy, like most people in media, have never done anything more than pick up a pen, go to college.
	Some of them haven't even gone to college, and secrete their opinion everywhere that they can.
	There's no reporting anymore, very, very little.
	Catherine Harridge is is probably one of the few.
	But what most journalists do now is they report as per their ideology.
	They don't look for the truth.
	They look for the truth from their perspective.
	And so they are companies that collect information and report information from their ideological advantage.
	And if it was true seekers, true Americans that just wanted answers.
	I can understand people uh being able to ask and and seek for questions.
	But here's the reality about media.
	Okay, this is the way media works.
	Majority of information that is collected by journalists and reported is done through through sources and methods.
	They have ways of collecting information, they scour the internet, they scour social media, they collect bits and pieces until they put together what they think is a picture of something.
	They have sources all through government, they get information leaked to them by people that are loyal to them.
	And what you see them doing is putting together pictures that that they believe are the truth or that they want to uh other people to see, so they'll believe is the truth.
	But regardless, they use sources and methods.
	Sitting in an agency and sitting in a room in an agency does nothing.
	Very, very little in most cases.
	And it would be much better if the president across the board in the White House, uh, in the DOD and the State Department and all these CIA never really gives briefs, but in all these agencies, if they say no more press credentials, what we're gonna do from now on, and I know because I did a show every night for over two years, I still do it every now and then, called the experts.
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	And I'm just some guy who put together the stuff by learning it in my uh in my apartment.
	The agencies and their press secretaries should be doing this.
	Just stream your press conferences, allow people to sign up, and I'm not just talking about the media.
	Allow people to sign up and uh and then they're held to a set of standards, and if they violate those standards, then they're kicked off never to come back on.
	But they they can ask all the questions that they want.
	Then the press secretaries can sit there and and look through and answer the questions.
	And then if media wants to press them further when they when the president moves from one place to another, or then they can ask them those specific questions.
	But by and large, like I said before, most of the reporting doesn't come from these press conferences, it comes from the sources and methods that they use, mostly sources.
	This is an easy solution.
	A very simple solution, and one that technically or techn technologically we are capable of doing now.
	So, folks, folks, listen.
	I'm gonna take a break.
	I'm gonna come back and talk some more about this.
	But this really does enrage me.
	I think 2019 could be a year where we start putting the pressure on government and on news agencies to start giving us the news, start giving us the answers, don't give us the spin.
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	I I really want you to concentrate, and I want you to think about while we go on another break.
	I want you to think about the fact that your life and how much of your life in 2018, how much of the anger that you felt, how much of uh of the time that was consumed in your life was done so because of uh the emotion that media spins up on a daily basis because of the way politicians and media have uh come together to create echo chambers.
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	Listen, I'm a little fired up today, folks.
	I I talked about this earlier in the week on another show on Sirius XM Patriot Channel.
	And the the 26th of December is always the day when things get really good.
	It's not necessarily January 1st or January 2nd when you go back to work after New Year's.
	The reality is, folks, is that the day after Christmas, things change in this in this world and in this country.
	Things go back.
	Uh, you know, I you you I challenge you next year if you can do this, if you live in the city.
	Get up, go out, get some coffee, and sit and watch how ridiculous people act.
	There's a lot of them are rushing to get back to work.
	Um, they're picking up their routines again.
	Uh, people are aren't watching out where they're going again.
	They're back in their phones.
	They're already forgotten about their presence in the family that they uh have talked to or the arguments they had, and they're back in the grind.
	People having road rage again.
	It's pretty amazing to watch, actually.
	And it's a shame that we we can say that the Christmas season is great, and I'm Christian, so I, you know, and I uh I love celebrating the birth of uh Jesus and and what it all stands for.
	But what I don't like is this shift, this robotic shift every year into the giving mode or the good mode.
	And if you've noticed how great things work in the month of December, the way people get along and they do things for each other.
	I mean, there's still bad things that happen, you know.
	Um, but overall people soften up a little bit and they start to think a little bit further beyond their own personal bounds.
	And then when December 26th rolls around, boom, it changes again.
	And I kept thinking about this uh as I've talked about this extensively, I kept thinking about again how 2019 could be different.
	You know, as the media and politicians enrage us on a daily basis with ridiculous reporting.
	Here's another thing ridiculous reporting about things like President Trump goes to see the troops in Iraq and then over in Germany.
	Fantastic.
	If that was Obama, the media would be going crazy.
	But what do they do?
	CNN comes out and says that he broke the law by signing mega hats, make America Great Again hats that the troops were handing him.
	I mean, come on now.
	You're you're you're gonna go after the president for signing a hat.
	This is how ridiculous that they've gotten.
	You cannot, I challenge you.
	Everybody talks about the fact when I host, I've had several people tweet in here.
	They say they should do a drinking game.
	Every time I mention my book, they should take a shot.
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	I'm not recommending that because I'm gonna mention my book a lot, right?
	I don't have my own show.
	I'm only on here for a limited amount of time.
	It's very important.
	I'm not just saying this to get book sales.
	This is my this is something that I have offered the country and parts of the world, but the country where you can gain empowerment and knowledge.
	Okay, that's why I push this book so much.
	I have a limited amount of time to push it.
	And I really do want you to get it so you can see what can happen.
	But getting back to this.
	When I challenge you to turn on CNN or MSNBC.
	And I had a uh a Twitter person tweet out a second ago saying, why don't you ever criticize Fox?
	I criticize Fox plenty.
	It's just that whoever this is only listens to this show so they can criticize whatever Sean says.
	Right?
	But I criticize Fox too.
	I just said earlier.
	I don't think Fox should have stories about Jim Carrey.
	Jim Carrey's irrelevant.
	I don't think that they should put up uh stories about how ridiculous of an accusation that CNN says that uh President Trump signing mega hats is illegal.
	That's not even really news.
	And I challenge you, you really want to know that the extreme uh how extreme this has gotten.
	Turn on CNN, turn on MSNBC for two minutes and count how many times they say Trump.
	They're not going to be covering any other stories.
	Maybe if it's a breaking news story, they'll hit it for a second.
	Then they're gonna go right back to Trump.
	It's ridiculous.
	And people that turn that on and leave that on in the background, you are if you're liberal and you're listening to this show and you're angry right now, you have been in doctrine, indoctrinated.
	You have been consumed by media because there's really no reason for us to be this angry.
	There's no reason for you to be that angry at President Trump.
	If you take a step back, and I I I've had people that I know try to argue with me about this, and I say, take a step back for a second.
	First of all, the anger, it doesn't president after president after president.
	People get so angry.
	Bush was in office, oh, they're so angry.
	Obama's in office, oh, they're so angry.
	There's very little outward things that are going to affect you on a daily basis by the president.
	It's really the Congress and their inability to act.
	That's really what does affect you on a daily basis more than anything.
	You think the shutdown is caused because of pre of President Trump?
	President Trump may be sticking by his gun and saying, I'll take the hit on this shutdown.
	But the shutdown is happening because he's standing his ground for national security.
	And it's the Congress that's refusing to act on national security.
	It's Congress.
	You listen to uh go back and listen to that press conference that they had in the Oval Office when the president did what I think is one of the most remarkable things in leadership that I've seen in my lifetime in politics.
	Well one where he brought in a congressional leader and a Senate leader and said we're gonna do this now.
	We're gonna air this out now.
	And they said, Well, we need to do this in private.
	And he kept saying that the people want transparency.
	He knew there's nothing classified about a wall.
	A wall, if you put a wall across the the southern border of the country, how are you gonna classify that?
	If it's not classified, talk about it in front of the people.
	Say why you don't want it, say why you do want it.
	Flesh it out.
	And he he did that, and what they do, they were shell shocked.
	They didn't know how to act.
	And I loved it.
	And then he turns around and he stole their fire because he said, if you don't give us what we want on the wall, I will shut the government down.
	One thing I think we can agree on is we shouldn't shut down the government over a dispute.
	And you want to shut it down.
	The last time, Chuck, you shut it down.
	No, no, no.
	And then you opened it.
	I don't want to do what you did.
	Twenty times you have called for I will shut down the government if I don't get my wool.
	None of us have.
	Do you want to know something?
	You've said it.
	You want to put that in the I'll take it.
	Okay, good.
	You know what I'll say?
	Yes.
	If we don't get what we want, one way or the other, whether it's through you, through a military, through anything you want to call, I will shut down the government.
	Fair enough.
	And I am proud, and I'll tell you what.
	I am proud to shut down the government for border security, Chuck, because the people of this country don't want criminals and people that have lots of problems and drugs pouring into our country.
	So I will take the mantle.
	I will be the one to shut it down.
	I'm not gonna blame you for it.
	The last time you shut it down, it didn't work.
	I will take the mantle of shutting down.
	And I'm gonna shut it down for border but we believe you shouldn't shut it down.
	Another thing that Chuck see, that folks is true leadership.
	That's owning, that's owning the leadership position.
	That's taking it and saying, Listen, this has to be done.
	If you don't want to do it, I'm gonna stand against you.
	And I had a big argument with somebody the other day in the office because they kept saying that all the president has to do is is compromise on something and the Democrats will come around.
	And I'm I'm like, what world do you live in that you actually think that leftists in government work like that?
	They don't work like that.
	They want it their way because they want to change the country.
	They want to change the constitution.
	So they're not going to bend.
	The only thing that they're gonna do is give in when the pressure is put upon them.
	Because if they risk losing uh uh a position or a seat in government, they risk the the possibility of changing the Constitution and the way things are.
	So there is a point that the president can take this, and just like that press conference in the Oval Office, if he continues to put the pressure on them without regard of hurting their feelings, they will fold.
	They don't know what to do.
	You could see that in the way that they reacted in the Oval Office.
	They just wanted to get out of there so bad they wanted to crawl out of their skin.
	If Chuck Schumer could have crawled out of his skin and shed his skin like a snake, I'm not saying anything about Chuck Schumer, but he would have.
	I'm not sure he hasn't shed his skin before.
	But he would have.
	So folks, this is the year, 2019.
	We are gonna have plenty of shows where they talk about what you know, the past year and the reflection on the year.
	We're gonna talk this this show about what 2019 should be.
	What 2018 was is in the past.
	What 2019 should be is the American people standing together.
	Maybe you're liberal, maybe you're conservative.
	I can guarantee you, if you get rid of the anger, if you stop with the nonsense about President Trump is just messing everything up.
	No, he's not.
	If you look at his record, it's really good.
	And if you look at where the problems are coming from, it's the hundreds and hundreds of people that show up in Congress to do a job, and they're controlled by a very small minority of people that have all the power.
	That's the one bad thing about seniority in Congress.
	It it literally allows people to gain so much power that they don't allow things to be done.
	And that's the problem with Congress.
	They don't get anything done because people don't want it to get done.
	So you need to realize that, folks.
	Let go of the anger, start looking at reality, stop listening to the media and start stop getting spun up.
	And I guarantee if you sit down, just like you're gonna play a board game, and you guys actually take and take something like immigration, but you gotta have all the facts.
	You can't just sit down over opinion and say, well, I think that people should be able to come here and we should be able to take all the people who were hurting and poor in the world, it's not realistic.
	You need to sit down with the facts.
	And then when you sit down, you say, how can we fix this?
	You're gonna be surprised at the at the compromises and the different ideas that actually work.
	And also something small, things that don't ever get changed in your life.
	You can apply the same thing, the same type of stepping forward and look at your city.
	And you're gonna see, folks, things can get fixed.
	They just don't get fixed.
	And so 2019 should be the year where Americans get together.
	Listen, social media is amazing.
	If there's a 50 people, 25 people that got together, liberals and conservatives, and said, we're gonna come up with a plan to fix immigration, and then you put that out and you put it on social media and you get a thousand or ten thousand retweets or shares, trust me, people are gonna see this stuff.
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	Folks, this is the interview that you don't want to miss today.
	I have been following the career of Derek Van Orden for a long time.
	I didn't know him.
	Uh I was in the SEAL teams for a very short period of time, about five years.
	Uh he was 26 years in the SEAL teams, but we never crossed paths until I got to see the movie Um Act of Valor, which I hope that you got to see.
	If you didn't see it, go rent it.
	It's amazing, amazing movie.
	Um that was where they used SEALs to actually play the roles of SEALs, which I I thought, hey, that's remarkable.
	Let's actually have the experts play the experts.
	I figured, let's start out before I read uh Derek's um his entire bio, which is just amazing.
	Let's just play a little clip of who this guy is, because yes, this is acting in a movie, but this is the way you flip a source when you need to question somebody.
	Go ahead.
	You're sitting on a wonderful boat.
	It's fabulous.
	I believe it's called Star.
	I love the way you say Starkship is the question.
	That guy uh Star Trek was his name, Scotty.
	Oh no, he's sorry, Scott.
	I wouldn't know.
	Yes, you never seen Star Trek?
	No.
	No, that's insane.
	So here's the problem, pal.
	You're with a lot of money.
	Or you were with a lot of money.
	I believe I still am.
	You do.
	Yes.
	All right.
	Let me tell you how the world works there.
	Crisco.
	It's Christo.
	Sorry?
	Chris Doc.
	Oh, of course.
	All right.
	Let me tell you how the world really works.
	Please.
	This is no longer your boat.
	Since I walked through that door, you're not the same guy you used to be.
	You're just not.
	There's nothing I can do to stop that.
	Nothing I can do to help you right now unless you'd let me help you.
	We need to do this together, Belle.
	You and me.
	Right here?
	Yes.
	Do you think this is some kind of game?
	Do you?
	Do you find this amusing?
	I'm not fighting.
	Do you realize what you're doing here?
	Ladies and gentlemen, uh that is how you flip a source right there.
	That is where you play good cop and bad cop on your own.
	Derek Van Orden, 26-year veteran of Navy SEALs.
	Uh he has been and done combat tours in Bosnia, Afghanistan, Iraq, and the Horn of Africa.
	He has two bronze stars.
	Uh he's a distinguished honor graduate of what we call 18 Delta.
	It's Army Special Forces uh medical sergeants course.
	You don't get better than that when it comes to treating people.
	Uh he was also, and this is very interesting, selected by Naval Special Warfare Command to assist in riding the official Navy SEAL ethos.
	I have always given this ethos a hard uh, you know, kind of giving it a hard time on the radio.
	Um, but now knowing who wrote it, I'll never do that again.
	It's not that I didn't believe in it.
	I just did I was like, where'd this ethos come from?
	Now that I know who wrote it, means all the difference in the world.
	He's also uh the author of the best-selling book, uh Book of Man, a Navy SEAL's guide to the lost art of manhood, and he started in multiple films like Act of Valor and Surviving the Wild.
	Derek, man, thank you for being here.
	We've been talking on the phone.
	Uh it's a privilege to actually have you uh speaking here and uh and it's we're this is great that you're coming here and we can talk about Eddie Gallagher and what's going on.
	Well uh thank you very much.
	I appreciate it.
	That was quite an introduction, and yeah, our our purpose here today really is is to speak about Chief Gallagher.
	Um and I know that you've taken a lot of time to do this, uh Sean Ham of you's taking a lot of time to do this.
	Uh Pete Hudscreth at uh Fox and Friends has also done this, and it's very important uh that we collectively as a nation when we see something wrong that uh we act on it immediately.
	And uh it's my firm belief that uh Chief Gallagher has uh has been the the victim, uh not to use the word uh negatively, that's gonna have kind of an overused term, but he at the official uh institutions for law enforcement in the Navy, I think are treating him um poorly.
	And it's it's not uh it's not appropriate.
	I'd like to say uh immediately though that I don't have any specific knowledge concerning what actually took place on the ground with Chief Gallagher um in Missoul.
	So uh I want to be very clear with that that I'm operating off the same public knowledge that is available to to anybody.
	So uh which let's be honest about that public knowledge, right?
	Discoveries happen.
	Right.
	Discovery has happened in this case already.
	So we should understand, because it's been made public, we should understand exactly what there is.
	I mean, uh we we have a good uh understanding of the picture that it's been painted by the prosecution.
	And what's interesting about this is that when you talk about somebody that nobody's ever heard about doing a murder, for instance, in an area where nobody uh ever goes, right?
	It's hard for the public to grasp what the facts are in this case.
	But what separates this case from that is that the information is has that's publicly available is available to operators like yourself, myself, other SEALs, other people in the military, and they're saying the same thing.
	This does not add up because they understand the way things go in these war zones.
	Correct.
	And uh what I really want to focus on today, Jonathan, because I think we can have a an appreciable positive effect, is the treatment that Chief Gallagher has received at the hands of NCIS and also through the Jag Corps and at the break in Miramar.
	Um people are unaware of what it's like to be in a a brig and he's in uh pre-trial confinement right now, that you're treated exactly the same as someone that's been arrested and convicted of child molestation.
	So they're putting him essentially in the general population with these folks that are convicted criminals, which is again inappropriate.
	Um just to give some a frame of reference for folks.
	We're really a demilitarized population now.
	Less than one percent of the uh American population is in the military, less than twenty-five percent of the American military um are uh naval folks, and less than one percent of that are SEALs.
	So we're speaking about a a very, very small portion of the American population that understands the difference between combat and civilian context.
	And if I could for a second, I'd like to maybe explain the scenario to help people understand what we're dealing with here.
	Sure.
	Is that all right?
	Yeah, go right ahead.
	Okay, check it out.
	So um I am a graduate of the Army Special Forces Medical Sergeants course, as is Chief Gallagher, meaning he is a super highly trained medic, uh, at the highest level that you can be uh in the enlisted corps.
	It's pretty b it's pretty close on the in the uh in the real world, it's pretty close to being uh physician assistant, is it not?
	I mean, not quite a physician since we're pre-come.
	Absolutely correct.
	Yeah.
	Yes, you have the same formulary so you can prescribe medications and you do uh different types of surgeries, and you you the uh the ability that you have to positively affect medical outcomes is great because of the training that's conducted by the army.
	So let's be real clear that Chief Gallagher has received the same training and is a medical professional along with being a uh warrior.
	So i let's uh kind of tell you about this a little bit.
	So treating a patient a wounded enemy combatant on the battlefield is sort of the same as treating somebody in the back of an ambulance in Cleveland.
	But here's where it differs.
	If you have a wounded enemy combatant on the battlefield who's incapacitated, he goes into a different category, the non combatant now, and you're prohibited by law from harming this guy, right?
	Or this gal, you're supposed to treat him.
	That's what we do.
	However, if this person becomes uh alert and what's going on and starts fighting you, he is no longer an enemy combatant.
	He he has switched back to the category of a combatant.
	If someone has an opioid overdose in Cleveland and you're in the back of an ambulance, you give them Narcan, which is a drug that helps get rid of the uh heroin from your system, it's actually an agonist antagonist.
	But if that person wakes up after you give this to him and he starts resisting you, you literally open the doors of the ambulance and either you run away or he runs away.
	So it's not the same as being on a battlefield.
	You are duty bound in combat to um kill the enemy.
	That's that's what you're there for.
	And I'd also like to bring something up.
	Chief Gallagher is going to be assigned to Naval Special Warfare Group One training detachment, meaning he would be responsible for training the SEALs that are going into combat.
	We we do this cyclically, you go into combat, you come back and train the other guys so that our tactics, techniques, and procedures are cutting edge all the time.
	Right.
	Meaning that he was a uh a high very high performing Navy SEAL chief.
	So having been at Trade Ed, actually establishment that was the first enlisted guy, uh actually, excuse me, the second enlisted guy at Naval Special Warfare Group One training detachment for land warfare.
	We as SEALs do not train anybody to murder anybody.
	SEALs are not trained to murder folks.
	SEALs are trained to very, very selectively kill enemies on the battlefield.
	And some people have an issue with this because they don't understand that there is justifiable killing in combat.
	Right.
	But that's what we do as professionals.
	We don't we're not trained to build hearts and minds.
	We're trained to actually Well when I say build hearts and minds, all right.
	We're not we're not necessarily the SEALs are not uh our our foundation is not to go in and build schools.
	Our our foundation is to go in and uh and take out enemies.
	That's what we're supposed to do.
	That's all we're supposed to do.
	Yeah.
	And so when you're acting you're acting in this manner, you're going out and doing things, um it can be very disconcerting if it if you are not trained to do this.
	And the other side is it can actually still be very disconcerting if you are trained to do this.
	So some people, although they do uh make it through SEAL training, really don't have what it takes to be a SEAL.
	That's just the way it is.
	We we can't screen everybody out.
	And uh I think that that may have taken that may be uh in play here with what happened with uh Chief Gallagher.
	Right, right.
	And he was Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Well, I th I think that we you know with with the with people like also that they need to understand the Jag Corps, which are attorneys, are they they don't come from the war fighting side of the military.
	Most people don't realize that only about ten percent of the United States military is actually a war fighting component.
	The rest of them are logistics and and all these other things.
	Very small group of people, actually the war fighters that are out there, and the Jag Corps is as far remote from that as could possibly be.
	So when they're bringing these charges, what you're seeing is language that doesn't uh fit or not just language, but avenues of approach for their cases that don't fit reality in the war zone.
	Correct.
	They're applying, and there isn't I did that long diatribe of trying to explain what what the heck this is like is that even though these folks are in the military themselves, they they do not understand what it is like to be a warrior.
	There's there are warrior classes and there's administrative support personnel.
	The Jag Corps falls into the administrative support personnel.
	I'm not trying to degrade their service, it's fantastic.
	Without them, we wouldn't be uh the great military that we are, but they simply often do not understand the complexities on the battlefield.
	Right.
	It's just a fact.
	Okay.
	And I I want to be super clear about something else, Jonathan, before you go on.
	Naval Special Warfare itself does not have an institutional problem.
	The Jag Corps does not have an institutional problem.
	The Naval Criminal Investigative Service does not have an institutional problem.
	What we have is we have a problem with some people.
	Some people within these organizations either don't understand what they're doing and why they're doing it, or quite frankly, uh have some ego involved with being able to roll up and uh put their thumb on Navy SEALs.
	And we've seen this in the past.
	Senior Chief Barry was wrongfully convicted of rape, and the person who exercised undue command influence things, James W. Crawford the third.
	He was the senior ranking JAG officer in the United States Navy who was pushed uh the folks beneath him to convict this man wrongly of rape.
	Right.
	So we have seen this previously with the treatment of Navy SEALs by the Jag Corps and by NCIS.
	So let me say this.
	We got about two minutes left, okay?
	So right on uh so with uh the case with Eddie, and I've seen I'm seeing two problems here, okay.
	I'm seeing what's happening, the fact that the command, I don't think that uh that uh group one has gotten behind the family, because the family didn't do anything, they're not being accused of anything.
	I don't think they're behind the family, and I don't think group is doing Eddie right because he hasn't been convicted in getting his medical treatment.
	Those are two things.
	The other thing is that I'm gonna give you about a minute to speak to is how other SEALs and other special forces, because this isn't just happening with Eddie, it's happened with um with Major Matthew Golstein, with Clint Lowrence, it happened with uh Keith Berry that you just talked about.
	How can other SEALs and other special forces uh stand together?
	I mean, we we can we can go on Facebook, we can do whatever, but it how important is it that we stand together in this?
	Well, it's super important, but first and foremost we have to understand that every active duty service man and woman has taken an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States and obey the orders of the people appointed above him.
	So in no way, shape or form do I think active duty military people should ever get together and conspire in order to try to take down their superiors.
	It's that's that that would be disastrous for our our nation.
	Um now the old fat retired folks like you and me, there we should get together and we should review these things um that are taking place with our active duty service men and women that are standing the watch for us so we can have barbecues and whatnot.
	And if some things like this uh come out of the blue and our active duty folks are being treated poorly, we need to get together to express um our displeasure and the fact that, you know, quite frankly, our men and women uh are less apt to do their job if they think they're being second guess and someone's applying an eight thousand uh mile-long screwdriver to correct their behavior.
	They have not been in the battlefield.
	Listen, brother, I gotta cut it right there.
	I can't thank you enough for being on Derek Van Orden, 26 year uh Navy SEAL veteran, good friend of mine, a brother, and listen to what he has to say.
	And uh we'll come back.
	I'm gonna give you his contact information on Twitter.
	You can find him, it's at Derek Van Orden.
	It's not real hard.
	And uh let him know what you think about what he has to say and that you stand with him.
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	Make sure one thing we didn't mention on that last interview, uh, with Derek Van Orden is that you can go to the Navy SEALs fund.
	That's Navy SEALs fund dot uh is that dot org, and you can go and donate to Eddie.
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	Uh and listen, the show's fast, so don't get a lot of get to the calls a lot, but uh I will get to you eventually.
	And I was just there a second ago.
	I was trying to give out and I was under the the gun here for uh hard break.
	It uh you can go to the Navy SEALs fund dot org and there's a link there that goes to the Eddie Gallagher uh fund, and I recommend that you give to that and help fund his legal fees because that ultimately is one of the things that's gonna uh hurt his family, not just Eddie, but hurt his family.
	Um I'm gonna talk a little bit more about Eddie's case and then some other things that have been in the news that uh pertain to attorneys, and I figured, you know, how many is there an attorney out there that I trust.
	And I had to, you know, I I know immediately there's only two attorneys that I trust.
	One of them's not here, but the other one is Paul Callan.
	Now, Paul Callan and I go back a long ways, and when I was on CNN, that's where I met Paul Callan.
	And uh he's been there for a long time at CNN.
	He's a breath of fresh air over there.
	Uh he was a uh New York City homicide uh prosecutor um and for a while.
	He uh is the attorney that won the OG uh the the case against O.J. Simpson civilly for Nicole Brown Simpson's family.
	That in and of itself is groundbreaking.
	And um you're somebody that uh I've watched uh when you're on CNN was you know, you stand up against uh the likes of um uh Stormy Daniels attorney.
	I uh see I'm I'm teaching everybody to block these names out.
	He's one of those people that you should block his name out.
	I mean, to me, he doesn't really he's irrelevant in in anything that he does.
	He's since disappeared pretty quick.
	Yes, he has.
	Pretty cool.
	You missed my segment with him.
	Oh no, I saw that.
	Oh, you saw that?
	Yeah, okay, good.
	Yeah, I I saw that he didn't like that very much.
	No, he didn't.
	But you know, you you are you're something that I I've always had a hard time with is I tell the truth, but I'm not politically correct.
	You're because you're an attorney, I mean you're trained to be this way.
	You can say things that are blunt but not offensive.
	And you do a very good job of that.
	So thank you very much.
	So I want to ask you real quick, uh and then we'll we're gonna talk about uh Michael Cohen a little bit.
	But um with this Eddie Gallagher case, now this is the this is the Jag Corps in the military, right?
	So they're gonna they're bound by the UCMJ, the uniform co Uniform Code of Military Justice.
	It's a little bit different than the civilian world.
	However, when we look at uh the language and the way that these cases, I've I've studied a lot of these uh JAG cases, and what they're notorious for is going in and developing an image of the person, not based on the evidence, but based on something uh that uh a picture that they can present to the juries or to the public to kind of defame these people before they come in.
	And uh and so I've seen this over and over and over where they say this person is dead guilty, they've done this, they've done this, and then when you look at the outcome of the case, and after they cut away all that nonsense, you realize the person didn't do it or they did very little of what they've been accused of.
	Now, I can't help but think that attorneys in the civilian world that did that and ignored the fact that something that they're presenting is not true would be disbarred.
	Well, it's uh it's a violation of uh the code of professional responsibility that lawyers are supposed to abide by.
	But I will have to say, there was a time when that would be true, but since the advent of television and television coverage of trials, you see civilian lawyers all the time on television talking about cases while they're pending, and prosecutors in particular.
	They're holding the press conference and they're uh telling stories about the defendant to make them look bad in the public eye.
	So I think you see it in civilian life as well.
	Now it's quite possible it's not as bad as it is in military life, but uh it's an unfortunate thing.
	Uh but it goes on.
	Do you just did social media bring this about, or is it TV really that that has and and just the lack of ethics that have come across the world really through all this stuff?
	Well, it well, you know, the background on it is that lawyers, like up through maybe the 1950s, early 1960s, they were very uh closely um uh monitored by bar authorities, and if they made public statements about pending cases, they would be brought up on charges.
	But then prosecutors started taking advantage of television.
	I mean, you know, you'd be a prosecutor in a local case, and then you're gonna be running for governor, you know, in six months if you get a lot of press.
	And when a defense attorney then was confronted with a situation where the prosecutor had said horrible things about his client just before jury selection, the defense attorney, if he was doing his job, he'd go out and give an interview saying nice things about his client.
	And both of them were really violating the rule.
	So it got to be, it got to the point though, where the courts came in and said, well, even lawyers have First Amendment rights to talk about a case, particularly when the prosecutor has already done that.
	So now you rarely see uh I can't remember in the last ten years seeing a case where a lawyer was actually prosecuted for publicly talking about a case.
	Well, but talking about it is one thing, but actually saying things, and there was one case that I I looked up that the same JAG that's involved with Eddie Gallagher's case was involved with, where um there was an issue with uh prostitutes over a text message where a guy uh like a contractor and some higher ranking officials in the military, he's saying um you know, after their expensive dinner that he treated him to, he's gonna send some girls to their to their hotel, and uh he kept going on, they were laughing back and forth about this.
	Well, that never transpired.
	They have camera footage it shows that the girls never showed up, there were never any prostitutes involved, but yet they still submitted these text messages without explaining that to the jury, and then made it publicly known in the press to taint the image of these people.
	Well, you know, it's a tax.
	That's pushing the line, though, isn't it?
	It is it is pushing the line, but is a judge sitting in that courtroom, a military judge, and he's only supposed to allow that to go into evidence if it's admissible and if it has what we call probative value in the case.
	So I don't know.
	I'd have to look at the specific text messages um to see to see what was in them.
	Let me ask you this.
	How uh you know, I am uh a realist in this in this uh fight.
	I try not to say I'm conservative, I'm definitely not liberal, but I try to just say I'm an effective thinker, a constitutionalist.
	But when I look at the rhetoric that this is very striking to me, when I look at the rhetoric that these JAG uh attorneys are using, the judges, And uh even some uh very elevated military uh admirals and generals.
	And then I go on to Twitter after I do a show like this, and the just the vicious comments that I get, it's the same language that they're saying on Twitter, the the leftist that these attorneys are using in their cases.
	That bothers me because now I'm starting to see in the DOD uh a uh quite often a leftist narrative or leftist language being used.
	And that alarms me and scares me that the DOD has a jag attorneys and judges that are using this language.
	Well, I you know, I'm I'm disturbed by it as well, and I would be disturbed whether they were using right wing language or left wing language.
	In other words, using political ideology to try to determine whether a man gets convicted of a very, very serious crime.
	They're not supposed to be doing that.
	They're they're only supposed to be talking about the evidence that is in the case, and they're only even supposed to be talking about that when they're in a courtroom trying the case.
	Otherwise, um they're supposed to give very vague uh comments and uh things have gotten out of hand.
	In Eddie Gallagher's case, the the prosecutor, this jag actually said that what Eddie is being accused of was like giving manna from heaven to the ISIS uh fighters.
	I mean, that's just rh ridiculous language has nothing to do with warfare.
	It's it it it's it basically what he just said goes out publicly, is like giving manna.
	Well, he shouldn't be making a comment like that because I don't care whether you're in the military or you're a civilian, the U.S. Constitution still applies to you, and you're presumed innocent of uh any charge, even a murder charge, uh pending conviction.
	And uh it seems to me that that's language that's inflammatory and could uh inflame a jury.
	And and with that being said, what uh in the civilian world, pretrial, somebody's being held, you know, uh in uh confinement um for a period of time.
	What typically does a judge look for to say this person is a danger to society, I can't let them out on bail.
	Well, I'll tell you, in murder cases, Jonathan, um it's rare that people I mean, I'm talking about an intentional murder case.
	I'm not talking about a manslaughter where it happens accidentally.
	But if you're or even if if the murder uh a murder uh a charge of murder, but they don't have any evidence.
	Well, whether they have evidence or not um uh is something that the court does look at because uh the well, the court in deciding whether to set bail or not looks at the seriousness of the charges.
	Okay, murder's the tops, so that's the most serious.
	Right.
	Um the risk of flight, uh, someone's facing life in prison, obviously uh they might, you know, try to flee.
	But they also look at the strength of the evidence.
	Uh and if it's an extremely weak case, sometimes you'll have a shot at getting bail.
	Uh, but in murder cases, presumptively people tend to stay incarcerated pending their trial.
	So let's talk real quick.
	We only got a few minutes here to talk about you wrote an article um about Michael Cohen.
	Yes.
	And this kind of goes along with what we're saying here, how attorneys it seems like ethics and law have taken a hit over the past few years, along with everything else.
	Ethics and politics.
	But when when you have a a an attorney who breaks their code of silence and the ethics that they're that they're sworn to, it's a big deal, is it not?
	Well, it is a big deal.
	And you know, Cohen um had uh done some things as an attorney that were just off the scale uh wrong.
	Uh one was, of course, tape recording his own client, the president.
	Now, I don't care what you think about President Trump.
	When he's talking to his own attorney, he has a right to expect that his attorney is not tape recording him without permission.
	And Cohen did it repeatedly.
	And now he's trying to use uh evidence from those tapes uh to get a light sentence uh from you know the Mueller people or a light sentence recommendation.
	And uh, I mean that's uh totally repulsive conduct by an attorney.
	And it that's a problem when I think it's a problem also for Mueller to accept that type of stuff because from my my experience, and you know this for sure, when you have a source and a source is giving you information because they want less of a sentence, right?
	Which is a lot of the information that we get.
	You have to be very careful with that information because they may very well be telling you what you want to hear versus what you Need to know.
	Well, that's absolutely true.
	And by the way, if you see the way they handled uh Cohen, you could see that they didn't even like dealing with Cohen because uh the Southern District prosecutors uh would not give him the benefit of his cooperation.
	It's called a 5K1 letter, which uh can get your sentence reduced very, very substantially.
	They wouldn't give him such a letter because they said he offered to cooperate, but he wouldn't fully cooperate, and he was dishonest with respect to some of the things he was cooperating about.
	Now the Mueller team had uh a better experience with him.
	They said they got information that was valuable, but they wouldn't give them the 5k1 letter also, and that's the gold certificate you get for cooperation with prosecutors.
	If they won't give you that, that means there's been a problem with your cooperation.
	So he got a partial sentence reduction, but not as much as you would have expected otherwise.
	So we only got a couple minutes here.
	Um I got a um an email from a DEA agent recently, and he said, speaking about the Southern District.
	Southern District, I always thought when I was in the bureau was the most aggressive district that there was.
	Yes.
	And uh he was talking about how the things that Cohen and others are being charged for through the Southern District, how, and I'm pretty sure he's Cohen's going through the Southern District.
	Yes, he is.
	Um there are uh far worse things that people are being charged for.
	And uh, but the fact is, or that they have cases.
	The fact is that they're an illegal alien in a drug case, and the Southern District is bending over backwards not to bring either not bring charges or to bring lenient charges against them.
	When did this type of political stuff start to occur?
	Well, you know something, Jonathan, that would really surprise me.
	Um I can't say I've I haven't experienced that myself.
	Most lawyers that I know who do immigration law think that um the Southern District treats them pretty tough.
	Uh, you know, you gotta if you want to have an example of that, take a look at El Chapo on trial in the uh well, he's in the eastern district right across the bridge.
	But same idea.
	They're they're pretty tough.
	Uh and the Southern District in uh in particular is tough.
	So I don't I have no personal experience that would back that claim.
	Over overall, though, uh I I think we we can agree on this that things in the law have started to mimic politics too closely.
	And uh when this type of ideological stuff gets in into real case, it's a problem.
	It's it's horrible.
	And uh I think we see it in all aspects of government.
	Um, you know, it's the I hate Trump uh team against uh the uh everything Trump does is right team.
	And there used to be a point where all of us, you know, sort of met in the middle and and backed the president of the United States, wherever he might be.
	And uh the boy, those days are gone, Jonathan, and it's a different world out there.
	Hey, listen, God bless you, brother.
	It's always fast when we come in here because it's interesting listening to you talk.
	Um everybody can find you on Twitter at Paul Callan, C-A-L-L-A-N.
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	And uh by the way, I'm getting a uh uh a rad mini.
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	Well, be careful out there and get a helmet, will you?
	Well, I definitely will.
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	You know, seems like every time I host now on the Sean Hannity Radio Show, I always ask to have Peter Schweitzer on here.
	And the reason is because when I see, so when I look at the news, I don't just look at the headline and say, oh, that's interesting.
	I I try to look beyond the headline at things that will pop out to me that even the people riding it may not see.
	And there was a uh an article that came out yesterday, and I figured let's reach out to Peter Schweitzer because I gotta I have to get his take on this.
	He's author of Secret Empire's How the American Political Class Hides Corruption and Enriches Family and Friends.
	He's the president of the Government Accountability Institute and the creator of the documentary The Creepy Line.
	Peter, thank you for being here as always with me.
	I appreciate it.
	Oh, uh glad to be on with you, and happy new year to you.
	Same to you, my friend.
	Listen, I saw this uh yesterday or maybe two days ago, and I and I said, Man, I gotta bring this up when I had Peter on.
	Uh, there was a liberal billionaire.
	Um, he is the co-creator of uh LinkedIn.
	And he uh was apologizing for funding a false flag effort to link Kremlin to Republican in Alabama Senate race.
	That's when Roy Moore was uh was running for office.
	There was a company called American Engagement Technologies.
	He donated, and he is uh Reed Hoffman, he's a billionaire, co-creator of LinkedIn.
	He donated $750,000 and uh was part of the effort to falsely portray the Republican Senate bid as being supported by the Kremlin.
	Now, this is very interesting because the fact that alone he used the term false flag was shocking to me.
	Because anytime other conspiracy, they call him conspiracy theorists hosts, or people on uh Twitter or Facebook use the term false flag.
	And I'm talking about conservatives here, and they say, well, that was a false flag, or this is a false flag.
	They're they're they're deemed crazy by the left.
	But here it is, somebody from the left donating money to make up a fake Russian story about Roy Moore, and he used the term false flag.
	I almost fell down when I saw that.
	Yeah, you know, and you were quite right too, because that that term uh does not get used much by the mainstream media, and you're right that um people always put that into sort of conspiracy theory land.
	But in this particular case, it's absolutely correct.
	Um, and you know, essentially what this group of democratic activists were doing was trying to create the impression, falsely, of course, uh, that Roy Moore's campaign For the Senate in Alabama, which Senator Jones eventually won, the Democrat, that Roy Moore's campaign was being supported by Russian bots on Twitter and on Facebook.
	And you remember there was the whole hullabaloo about the uh you know so-called Russia collusion in 2016 that President Trump somehow benefited from these Russian bots.
	And that story has never really panned out in terms of anything quantifiable.
	So that was originally in 2016.
	Now you've got this 2018 Senate election, uh, and you've got this company, American Engagement Technologies.
	These these are not, you know, a bunch of amateurs doing this.
	So Mikey Dickinson, who's the head of it, is a Obama operative.
	There's a guy, Jonathan Morgan, who's involved, who's a participant who actually wrote his company, wrote the Senate Intelligence Committee report on the Russian bots that were working in 2016.
	These guys create a operation to make it look like Russian bots are helping Roy Moore when in fact those bots don't even exist, except for the fact that these guys have created them.
	So this is a huge story because of course it begs the question, Jonathan, if these Russian bots are so active and they're so eager to help uh you know Trump or people that are supportive of Trump, why would this organization have to go out and create them?
	You would expect them to be operating already.
	So this is a story with layers upon layers that uh I think is very compelling and important for people to be paying attention to.
	And I and I think when we look at the way the media normally covers these things is once a part, like let's say something against Trump, right?
	Once a small part of that may be proven, then they they just assume that everything else is true, and they will go full bore on those stories.
	What what is interesting about this is one, the fact that he used false flag, which g gives legitimacy to anybody else that says that was a false flag.
	And and they and constantly saying no, the false flags are weird, that's things that conspiracy theorists say.
	Now you have somebody who actually was involved in the operation saying yes, it was a false flag.
	That's the big thing.
	The other thing though is this is the exact thing that they were accusing uh Russians of coming in on Facebook and paying for this stuff, and now we have an example where in an election, in the same time, right around after uh Trump was elected, that this was actually a uh left or a democratic uh tactic.
	So aren't we allowed to assume and shouldn't it be investigated that if this was used on Roy Moore, it was probably used on Donald Trump?
	Well, I think you are absolutely right.
	You make a brilliant point that, you know, in all of this overheated rhetoric on Russia collusion, um, if they get one point right in a minor way, they somehow assume that the entire narrative is accurate.
	Um, and that's just simply, you know, not the case.
	And I think we need to call them out on it.
	And I think you're also correct uh that this raises all sorts of questions about all sorts of issues that come up.
	I mean, you look at the the whole issue of the steel dossier, which is still shrouded in mystery.
	We know who funded it.
	We know that Steele, this ex-British intelligence officer that wrote it, uh, doesn't really have any backup evidence.
	He just sort of puts this stuff in the dossier.
	It's uncorroborated, it's unverified, it's falacious, as James Comey said.
	Uh, and it seems pretty clear that it was designed to serve as a as a piece of disinformation, as it were, to cycle through the media to attack Donald Trump.
	And and this story that has now come out involving emergency engagement technologies in these false bots indicates that when you talk about dirty tricks and political campaigns, this takes it honestly to a to a whole new level.
	Uh, when you involve foreign entities as they did with the British intelligence officer, Mr. Steele, or in this case, where you are purposely trying to uh create a false flag and indicate that there's Russian foreign interference in a Senate campaign when in fact there is not.
	And what I think, Jonathan, we need to do is Democrats need to call out Democrats Who are doing this stuff?
	If they are serious about manipulation of our political system, they should be calling out these uh operatives who did this.
	And by the way, these operatives then should not be hired by other Democrats to work on any other campaigns because this should not be acceptable political behavior.
	Well, what about the fact that Paul Manafort, right?
	Who is uh investigated by Mueller and all this stuff came out?
	And when Paul Manafort's passed, right, and the things that he's done comes out, they link it to President Trump and they use that also to further the case of Mueller.
	When we look at this, and we look at the fact that Democratic operatives, that a company that works with the Democrats was used, and that a huge funder, uh, the former uh co-founder of LinkedIn uh was involved with this, Reed Hoffman, of paying $750,000 to get this going forward.
	Shouldn't we be able to say and shouldn't shouldn't investigators be looking into this and saying because they're gonna they're gonna investigate Russia, they're gonna investigate Trump, they're gonna investigate Gate Manafort.
	Shouldn't they be saying that this gives us grounds to investigate to see if people were tampering with with uh with elections?
	And was it this tampering with an election?
	Absolutely it was.
	Um, and and look, I said from the very beginning, um, you know, in January 2017, where all this stuff was swirling.
	If we're going to investigate Russia and and their involvement politically, let's do all of it.
	Let's investigate John Podesta, Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman, who was on the board of a small company that got $30 million from Roos Nano, which is a government-run investment fund in Russia that is called Putin's child.
	In other words, this is Putin's investment fund.
	They put $30 million into a small energy company upon which John Podesta sits on the board.
	Let's investigate Bill Clinton's speaking fees from investment funds that are linked to Russian intelligence, uh, which is well established and well known.
	Let's look at Rus Nano, which was this high-tech initiative that Hillary Clinton set up as Secretary of State to help the Russians develop a Russian version of Silicon Valley, which eventually led, according to the U.S. military, to the Russians being able to develop this hypersonic missile that they are now testing.
	These are all established facts, and they all look at the linkages between the Clintons and Clinton members of the Clinton orbit who are receiving money, who are receiving benefits from Russian entities while she is Secretary of State and our lead diplomat.
	My view was look at the Trump stuff.
	I think it's pretty clear that there's nothing that's emerged that amounts to anything involving collusion.
	But why are you not also interested in looking at this side of the ledger, which is the Clinton side?
	And that's if you're going to investigate Russian collusion, be honest about it.
	Don't be selective about it.
	And I think that's why people feel like this investigation has kind of become a farce.
	Well, let's just, you know, with the interesting thing about this, let's just start at the beginning.
	It was based on a fake dossier and illegal wiretaps, right?
	Pfizers.
	Illegal, right?
	And so that alone should have stopped us in its tracks.
	The second thing is none of those things added up to anything.
	Yet, when we look at what you just pointed out about the Clintons and John Podesta and uh the Clinton Foundation and what we look at here with uh this election tampering from the left, I mean, there was no fake uh dossier that allowed us to see that this guy was funding a false flag.
	There was no uh uh of illegal physes that let you know about that let Peter Schweitzer and your group go out and investigate what the Clintons did.
	You didn't need a fake Pfizer for that.
	You know, that's exactly right.
	It's there and this is and this is why I think Jonathan Watt, people are uh very frustrated with the investigation.
	Uh a lot of people, even people that that aren't necessarily big Trump supporters, look at this and say this is selective justice in America.
	Then where are they?
	Why aren't they standing up for this?
	Why aren't why aren't people standing together and saying this can't happen anymore?
	Well, I think they need to.
	I think people have gotten very disillusioned with the criminal justice system in America today.
	I mean, even even look at at Paul Manafort, who, by the way, I say, you know, he he broke Faro laws, he broke it, then then you know, he needs to go to jail.
	But Tony Podesta, who is John Podesta's brother, uh was also a lobbyist for the Ukraine and a whole host of other foreign entities.
	And by the way, when Paul Manaford was charged with violating the Foreign Agents Registration Act, FARA, what did Tony Podesta, John Podesta's brother do, the big Democrat lobbyist?
	He went back and retroactively filed 17 uh documents on his previous work under FARA.
	In other words, he hadn't reported any of this stuff either, just like Paul Manaford.
	But is Tony Podesta being investigated for FARA violations?
	I don't know.
	There's no evidence that he is.
	I mean, maybe there's something going on in Mueller's investigation, but I really doubt it.
	And that's another example of this selective nature.
	And people are, I think, disgusted.
	They're willing to accept the fact that, you know, maybe somebody they agree with politically has engaged in in bad behavior and they ought to be investigated.
	But when it's only one side that's ever being investigated, they are just appalled and they feel like there's selective justice in this country.
	I tell you what, let's take a break real quick.
	I want to bring you back on the other side of the break if you've got a few minutes, because I want to come, I'm going to come back.
	I've been trying to tell everybody, not just to reflect on 2018, but what you would like to see in 2019.
	So we'll have a couple minutes when we come back.
	Hang on there, Peter.
	We'll come back and then we're going to talk about that.
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	Peter, I asked you before we went on a break.
	Um everybody talks about at the end of the year, you know, they reflect on 2018.
	What do you hope that the American population that is listening?
	Both on the on that are liberal and conservative, I really hate those terms because if we just looked at things that how do we fix it effectively, we wouldn't really have those terms so much.
	But what do you wish, you know, doing all this research that you see that people would get in the in 2019?
	Well, I think what people have to get is um, you know, the reason that our founders set up our form of government the way they did with separate branches of government is they had an inherent distrust of power.
	When things are done in secret, when things are done with powerful forces, especially that those are individuals who don't have to face elections, uh, corruption happens.
	It's it's not a liberal problem, it's not a conservative problem, it's a human nature problem.
	So what I say is, you know, be skeptical.
	When you're being told by, you know, powerful institutions this or that, this is the truth, that is the truth.
	It's okay to ask questions.
	It's okay to hold them accountable.
	And in this day and age, we have so many decisions that are being made by unelected government officials.
	They, you know, a businessman makes a request for a permit at local governments.
	They just ignore them.
	They just ignore them because they decide they don't want to honor it.
	Or somebody makes a request from a government agency under the Freedom of Information Act, they just ignore the request.
	So the point is the only way we get accountable government is by us holding them accountable.
	Nobody else is gonna do it.
	It has to be us.
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	Listen, I figured I would take a break from the seriousness before we get to the end of the show because I got some great things to say at the end.
	And I wanted to talk to a good friend of mine.
	I was having a conversation.
	She's a uh a doctor and a uh health practice natural uh sorry, let me let me go back here.
	Certified natural health practitioner, C and H P and a naturopathic doctor indeed.
	She's been doing devoted over 20 years of this stuff to her life, Randy Shannon.
	And Randy, it's so good to have you on here.
	I've been on a show with you before.
	Now you're on with me.
	And I wanted to ask you and give uh the people some advice after Christmas and after the holidays, they their their guts are bloated.
	And uh, you know, there's all this stuff that you hear on the television.
	You got truckers driving down the road right now, you got family members that are having their last meeting, you know, get togethers before the the end of the new year, and everybody's suffering by this point.
	What what is it that's happening in people's bodies from overeating that they don't normally eat this much or this kind of food?
	And how do they buy you know the next couple weeks?
	How do they get themselves back to normal?
	Ah, I love this question.
	And first of all, it's great to be here, and thank you so much for having me on the Sean Hannity show.
	You got it.
	Um what a what a great topic.
	Um, I believe when people are going through that feeling where they're losing their energy levels and they've got that that bloat look or the gassiness that they're actually gluten intolerant.
	And gluten is two proteins that are used for the elastic texture in dough, for example.
	It acts as a glue that holds the foods together.
	And it's in a lot of foods.
	It's in breads, it's in cereals, it's even in ketchup and mustard for those truckers that are out there driving down the road.
	It's in everything.
	And it's like a bull in a china cabinet causing and wreaking damage all throughout our body.
	So besides the bloating and the lack of energy, there can be other symptoms, most of which can be tracked back to nutritional deficiencies.
	And if they are gluten intolerant, there can be other things like mood swings, hair loss, bloating, uh, low vitamin B12 levels, which is your energy.
	And B12 cannot be absorbed without an acid environment in the stomach.
	So we absolutely have to have acid.
	And so when this bloating or this gassy stomach occurs, people look like they're about what, four to five months pregnant.
	Um we've seen the look.
	Um, and it they can have a great body, and just they have the stomach bloat.
	So what that means is the acid environment or the pH in the stomach isn't quite right.
	It really needs to be more like carbattery acid.
	And the stomach acid has gone more towards a neutral level, neutral level being seven, and it's probably more like a four or a five instead of level one.
	And at that level, what happens is yeast and bacteria grow in that environment.
	So when somebody, you know, we overeat at the holidays generally.
	So when somebody's eating all of these variances of food, when they eat fruit of any kind, fiber, sugars, juices, it's going to result in the fruit and the sugars and the carbohydrates being fermented by the yeast and bacteria, which causes that bloat.
	So what can they do to avoid it?
	And this goes for all year round.
	Okay, and try not to break these rules.
	Um, what they want to do to change this lack of energy and to get rid of this bloat is for sure go on a gluten-free diet.
	And that means everyone in the entire household.
	They need to also stay away from all fried foods forever.
	If you want to fast track aging, eat fried foods.
	Um it's so terrible for you.
	No nitrates, no nitrates, um nitrates.
	Uh they want to use real butter, not margarine, and they want to use lots and lots of salt.
	They want the chief cells in the stomach to create that acidic environment that's best for digestion, and then that will suppress suppress the gross of yeast.
	So no cooking with oils, uh, no cook no coconut oil, no olive oil.
	Everybody says, Oh, but that's okay.
	But here's the thing.
	Unless you have plucked that coconut off the tree and you grind it up and you get the oil out of it and you eat it in the first ten minutes, it's not healthy for you.
	Wow.
	And it causes severe free radical damage in the body.
	And we don't want that because what happens?
	We age faster, we get aches and pains and we get all kinds of symptoms, and then they get diagnosed as something.
	So a lot of that's any a lot of the things that you're talking about, it seems like it's in overdrive times ten during the holiday.
	Yes.
	And that probably causes a massive amount.
	I'll tell you this right here.
	I was sick all Christmas, so I didn't go anywhere.
	I didn't eat any of this food, I didn't do nothing.
	I hardly ate it all, in fact, and I slept because I was on prescription uh medicine and it just knocked me out.
	And I don't feel disgustingly bloated.
	Not to say that the food that I normally eat is always done so well, it's not fried, it's good food, but a lot of the things that you're saying, the mixing of you know uh of the fruit with the other stuff with the yeast and stuff, this is just something that happens constantly over the holidays.
	That's right.
	Well, and it starts typically at Thanksgiving, and a lot of times that's when it hits the news.
	Oh, the flu is everywhere.
	People are crashing because they've just done massive destruction in their bodies.
	Yeah.
	And you know, the great thing is everything is reversible.
	That's my belief.
	And yeah, if you just go gluten free, there's so many benefits.
	One is gonna be the increased energy level.
	Why?
	Because the B twelve will now actually absorb.
	So you're gonna gain back those energy levels, and then you're not gonna have that chemistry process going on in your stomach if you remove the gluten and you remove these these bad things.
	No wheat, wheat's in pretty much everything in many variations.
	So you really have to look at the labels and go completely wheat free.
	And remember a few years ago, that was all the rage.
	Oh, I want wheat bread, I want wheat this, I want wheat that.
	And really, we were just destroying ourselves.
	Well that happens a lot when when people get in paw uh politics or advertising gets in the way of where with the way we eat.
	Listen, I gotta I gotta cut it there because I have to get calls before we end the show.
	But I'll have you on more, and I can't think you know how do people find you.
	The body can dot com, the body can, C A N, because I believe the body can heal itself.
	We're on Twitter on that, where you have a Facebook group, nearing 20,000 people.
	So thank you so much for having me on the show.
	You got it.
	And uh hopefully we have some people reach out.
	You got it.
	Dr. Ran Randy Shannon, thank you very much.
	You're a good friend of mine and you're always having great advice, and hopefully some of these people take it.
	The truckers going down the road and get rid of this thing that goes on in our body after uh after uh Thanksgiving, sometimes after Christmas.
	Uh I figured I'd bring her on just to you know give people a little bit of a perspective that you can get back to this pretty quickly.
	Um listen, folks, I want to go to the phone calls real quick.
	Uh let's go to Scott in Alabama.
	Go ahead, Scott.
	Jonathan.
	What's up, buddy?
	Hey, happy new year, first of all, and N S DQ.
	Awesome.
	Thank you very much.
	And and listen, I I know we got a limited amount of time, but I wanted to get to you and I'm gonna give you the floor.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, I just wanted to say you talked about uh Chief Gallagher and uh you know his situation, but I also want to remind people that Marcus Luttrell uh lone survivor, uh Operation Red Wing, uh that whole debacle when they deliberated on what to do with the goat herders.
	Uh that all happened because they were uh they had a uh tremendous fear of being prosecuted by their own people.
	Yeah, it's they deliberated long and hard about that, and they said it was a decision that he would regret for the rest of his life.
	Yeah, it's interesting when we look at all these cases that are coming up recently.
	You know, uh Clint Lawrence, uh, we got the major Golstein, we got Eddie Gallagher, and all these things are are being looked at um by these Jag attorneys from a civilian point of view.
	They don't it's not as though when they when I see these cases presented, they're presenting them from uh the way a civilian would interpret the the UCMJ and and without taking to account where they are, the war zone that they're at, and what they're actually tasked with, which is killing the enemy.
	And now we're not in in Eddie's case, he was just accused.
	Um in Major Goldstein's case, uh, it has to do with uh that he thought he was killing a combatant.
	And I it the whole system needs to be reviewed.
	Wouldn't you agree?
	I would certainly agree.
	Uh it's hard to determine who's a combatant, who's not uh when they hide amongst the population over there.
	And let me say something further about eighteen deltas.
	I've worked with eighteen deltas.
	I worked, I flew for Blackwater in Baghdad, and uh several of our uh folks were uh eighteen deltas.
	And if I was on a roadside injured, believe me, uh the person I'd want treating me as an eighteen Delta.
	They are they are the best.
	And um no mistake, they are the best.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, no, no, I no doubt about it.
	And you know, I gotta give you credit.
	Uh the uh the pilots, uh the helicopter pilots, the special forces pilots, you guys are amazing, and I can't thank you enough for all that you do.
	I'm gonna cut it there, brother.
	But listen, be safe.
	Merry Christmas.
	Hope you have a happy new year, and thank you for speaking out.
	The veterans across this country need to speak out like that.
	God bless you, and thank you for that.
	I'm gonna take one more phone call, and then I gotta go to a break.
	And let's go to Barrett in Houston.
	Go ahead, Barrett.
	John Gilliam.
	What's up, buddy?
	John Gilliam.
	Yeah, I thought I was gluten free until Randy Shannon said gluten and mustard.
	And we're we're uh fluoride free too.
	Put filters on your home water.
	But anyway, I want to talk quickly about uh Corporal Singh who was killed Christmas night.
	Yeah.
	Um I think he uh deserves the uh uh front front fr the first responders equivalent to the military's purple heart.
	Perhaps we could call it the gold heart of the gilded heart or something.
	And I think that uh it should be awarded posthumously to his wife and son.
	And I think that Congress should uh should allow those to be awarded to uh the nine eleven heroes that are posthumous and seriously wounded.
	And uh so people just so I can say this real quick, people that don't realize um Corporal Sing, uh, he was um the officer who was just killed in in California.
	Uh he came over here as a legal immigrant, was even taking classes while he's a cop so he could learn to speak better English.
	And um that was at the Newman Police Department, and he was killed by an illegal alien.
	The front lines are domestic now, John.
	Yeah, they are domestic.
	They are, brother.
	Listen, I can't.
	They're within our borders.
	They're on our front door.
	I gotta cut it there.
	God bless you, uh, Barrett, and thank you for bringing that up, and God bless Texas.
	You guys uh you gotta get a hold of what's going on there in politics because you're turning purple.
	Let's uh let's take a break.
	We're gonna come back and have some closing remarks.
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	This is John of the Gillam finishing up the show for my good buddy Sean Hannity.
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	Sean, thank you for allowing me to be here.
	Linda, thank you for asking me uh to come in here.
	I can't uh thank everybody enough for the phone calls.
	I'm sorry I don't get into a lot of the phone calls here because it's so quick, but I want to let everybody know, my family, friends, that I love you.
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	Now, real quick before we close, I just want to say this.
	You know, I I pump up my book a lot, Sheep No More, The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival.
	The reason I do that is because, and I want you all to learn from this.
	I wrote that book so that you all can understand how I see the world from the attacker's point of view.
	Because I want you to have I want you to have that that understanding so you can make your life safer and so you can be empowered.
	Too often, what we see in today is the push for people to be helpless.
	Take this handout, sit on your butt and send this money in and don't make a fuss about something.
	It's as if the politicians and media, and it's not just as if, it's the reality.
	They want you to learn helplessness.
	I want you to learn empowerment.
	And I think as we go into the new year, that should be what you take with yourself in 2019.
	If you have an expertise, don't be don't be afraid of using it.
	Don't be egotistical about it, and don't force it on people that don't want to hear it.
	But if you can lend a hand with your expertise, if you can give some insight into things that they're saying that's wrong on TV, or a politician that is trying to skew things for an election, or if you just hear somebody leading somebody astray, stand up and inform the people.
	Let's start helping each other, be empowered.
	And the way you do that is by standing together first and foremost, having dialogue, and then understanding that you do have a voice.
	Listen, the media is not the fourth branch of government.
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