RFK Confirmation Battle – The Deep State is Losing Control! – SF528
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That's why I'm here.
We're here to awaken together.
We're starting the show a little early because the RFK confirmation hearing is so satisfying and extraordinary.
I have, and let me know in the comments and chat if you agree with this, earmarked the confirmation of RFK as the early signifier as to whether or not we can legitimately be optimistic about the Trump 2025 project as opposed to earmarked the confirmation of RFK as the early signifier as to whether or What is that thing that everyone's obsessed with?
Project 2025?
What I mean is, I see sort of RFK and Tulsi Gabbard as the, no, this is okay, this is new politics, new politicians.
Jay Bhattacharya, Marty Makari, I sort of, because they're, I guess, look, I'll put it on the table.
I know them, I know RFK, I actually know him, and I feel like he's a really great person.
If he's in charge of the HHS, America is definitely going to improve.
If he gets somehow, if they find a way that he don't end up getting that gig, I'll be like, oh, okay, okay.
So with that said, let's go over to the confirmation hearing right now, and we're going to give over the majority of today's show to that.
Let people know we're doing this live, by the way.
You can post on social media, tell people to come and join us so we can have some fun with this craziness.
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Let's go over to the confirmation.
Let's keep going.
You're right because to say yes.
Because every American has the right to know that every decision you make as our number one health officer is to help them and not to make money for yourself in the future.
So I want to talk more about money.
I'm looking at your paperwork right now.
In the past two years, you've raked in $2.5 million from a law firm called Wisner Bomb.
You go online, you do commercials to encourage people to sign up with Wisner Bomb.
To join lawsuits against vaccine makers.
And for everyone who signs up, you personally get paid.
And if they win their case, you get 10% of what they win.
So if you bring in somebody who gets $10 million, you walk away with $1 million.
Now, you just said that you want the American people to know you can't be bought.
Your decisions won't depend on how much money you could make in the future.
You won't go to work for a drug company after you leave HHS, but you and I both know there's another way to make money.
So, Mr. Kennedy, will you also agree that you won't take any compensation from any lawsuits against drug companies while you are secretary and for four years afterwards?
Well, I'll certainly commit To that, while I'm secretary, I do want to clarify something, because you're making me sound like a shill.
I put together that case.
I did the Science Day presentation of the judge on that case to get it into court.
Mr. Kennedy, it's just a really simple question.
You've taken in $2.5 million.
I want to know if you will commit right now.
That not only will you not go to work for drug companies, you won't go to work suing the drug companies and taking your rake out of that while you're a secretary and for four years after.
I'll commit to not taking any fees from drug companies while I'm secretary.
I'm asking about...
You're asking me to not sue drug companies.
No, you can sue drug companies as much as you want.
I'm not going to agree to not sue drug companies or anybody.
It's actually got quite a good vibe for a confirmation, isn't it?
I mean, it's obviously very hostile, but like, hey, it's an atmosphere.
Plus...
She's over the shoulder at any moment.
You can publish your anti-vaccine conspiracies, but this time on U.S. government letterheads, something a jury might be impressed by.
You could appoint people to the CDC vaccine panel who share your anti-vax views and let them do your dirty work.
You could tell the CDC vaccine panel to remove a particular vaccine.
God, she's horrible.
Tell me in the chat.
I can tell that's not a very nice person just from listening.
Like, just on a spiritual level, like, can you sometimes get an intuitive sense that...
No, you're not being very nice.
Like, that person's not like, hello, I'm here to do a confirmation.
This person is, I'm here to try and disrupt this process and to prevent you getting into office.
You could turn over FDA data to your friends at the law firm, and they could use it however it benefited them.
You could change vaccine labeling.
You could change vaccine information rules.
You could change which claims are compensated in the vaccine injury compensation program.
There's a lot of ways that you can influence those future lawsuits and pending lawsuits while you are Secretary of HHS. And I'm asking you to commit right now that you will not take a financial stake.
And every one of those lawsuits so that what you do as secretary will also benefit you financially down the line.
I'll comply with all the ethical guidelines.
That's not the question.
You and I, you have said repeatedly.
You're asking me, Senator, you're asking me not to sue vaccine pharmaceutical companies.
No, I am not.
Yeah, you are.
That's exactly what you're doing.
Look, no!
Robert Kennedy will have the power to undercut vaccines and vaccine manufacturing across our country.
And for all of his talk about follow the science and his promise that he won't interfere with those of us who want to vaccinate his kids, the bottom line is the same.
Kennedy can kill off access to vaccines and make millions of dollars while he does it.
Kids might die, but Robert Kennedy can keep cashing in.
Senator, I support vaccines.
I support the childhood schedule.
I will do that.
The only thing I want is good science, and that's it.
How about then say you won't make money off what you do as Secretary of HHS? Before we go to Senator Tillis, I think it would be important for me to make it very clear that Mr. Kennedy has gone through the same Office of Government Ethics process as every single other nominee in the Finance Committee this year and in previous administrations.
In addition to listing his assets, including the items that you've identified, he has signed an ethics letter that has been reviewed by the Office of Government Ethics concerning any possible conflict in light of its functions and the nominee's proposed duties.
And we have a letter from the Office of Government Ethics that he hasn't complied completely with all applicable laws and regulations governing conflicts of interest.
Mr. Chairman point of information here is Have we had a single nominee come through who's made two and a half million dollars off suing?
One of the entities that it would be regulating and plans to keep getting a take of every lawsuit in the future.
Have we had that before?
I haven't reviewed the past documentation of every other nominee's financial interests.
But I know that every single time we get a nominee, their financial interests are attacked.
That's why we have the Office of Government Ethics.
That's why they've reviewed everything that's in his record.
And that's why he has even...
I think, and I don't know that I want to ask him to get into it, but he has listed his assets and has gone through a discussion of the responsibilities under our ethics laws and has complied with all of those requirements.
Senator Tillis.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Mr. Kennedy, how's your morning going?
So far so good.
You came prepared.
I'm glad that you did.
You, I believe, addressed to my satisfaction a question about Title X and the President's priority with respect to Planned Parenthood.
Can you just affirm that you are 100% behind the President's policy on Title X? I'm 100% behind it.
Thank you.
You know, it's amazing to me that people...
Well, first off, you need to understand...
I was in a judiciary hearing this morning.
It's very clear to me that some of these nominations are going to be shirts and skins.
So no matter what you answer in the affirmative, they're going to ask you one more question so that you won't be able to answer in the affirmative.
That's just the way the game that's played when we have...
Nominees like yourself.
So I think you're handling yourself well.
I got a real quick question for you.
Are you a conspiracy theorist?
That is a pejorative, Senator, that's applied to me, mainly to keep me from asking difficult questions of powerful interest.
I was told that I was a conspiracy theorist.
That label was applied to me because I said that the vaccines, the COVID vaccine, didn't prevent trans...
This, right, is the, I would say, the main interface where what I'm interested in is being fought.
Like, is there going to be a new type of politics where a man who wrote a book like Real Antony Fauci is in a position where he's managing a 1.6 trillion billion...
Trillion billion, trillion dollar budget.
Is that going to actually happen now?
Are we going to see that?
Or will the machine or system swallow him up?
Why it's fascinating to see the conspiracy question is because that's rubber meets the road.
Let me know in the comments in chat how your perspective and what constitutes a conspiracy theory has changed in the post-COVID era.
Any one of them that you can say, you got me?
That really was a conspiracy theory?
Are you in a position to submit for the record?
I think it'd just be helpful for every one of these narratives for you to submit that maybe for the record.
You said something about Snap Lunch.
I was in the statehouse in North Carolina before I came here, and any time I'd go visit an elementary school, the first thing I would do is go to the trash cans in the cafeteria.
And what we have now are kids.
And then I'd go to the locker rooms, and I'd have a good rummage around in there as well.
Get out of the school!
It's a healthy alternative.
It has processed materials in it, and it's not particularly attractive to them, so they throw it away.
Trash cans full of food that these kids didn't eat.
I ate every last morsel.
Then I went into the bathrooms, and I had a good sniff of those seats.
Everything you've said about the SNAP program, I agree with.
I think that we should be very, very strict about that, and it's going to make some people uncomfortable in the food manufacturing segment.
Produce healthy foods that we can put in the SNAP program.
That's the way to address it.
But we also need to look at the school health program.
I was PTA president 21, 22 years ago.
Mate, it sounds like you're going to a lot of trouble with being around.
That's what I'm noticing.
I feel like we've got these kids that need help.
We've got to guide.
And I'll help them.
Many of them are probably on Medicaid and Medicaid's fell on them.
Everybody here.
I'm joking.
I don't even know who that person is or I'm just mucking around.
Medicaid is not producing positive health outcomes.
Is that your problem with Medicaid right now?
The program or the outcomes?
It's the outcomes.
We're spending $900 billion on our...
People are getting sicker every single year.
And President Trump wants Americans to have high quality insurance.
Anybody who's building a case for the status quo of Medicaid is by extension saying that they're happy with the outcomes.
I think it's unacceptable.
I do have a question for you on Project Warp Speed.
On the Rumble Chat, this is ODMXV. Elizabeth Warren needs to be beaten with dildos.
Don't think that's a way to resolve political conflict.
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This is what Jack Posobich posted regarding the obstacles to RFK being inaugurated.
I'm told the biggest holdouts are Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham.
Are they participants in the hearing?
Either of them in the Senate hearing.
Can I just go back to those different agencies?
No, Senator.
What I want to do is, I'm not a scientist.
I want to empower scientists.
I want to make sure that science is unobstructed by vested or economic interests.
That's good.
I'll just say about Operation Warp Speed, it was an extraordinary accomplishment, a demonstration of leadership by President Trump.
When he promoted Operation Warp Speed, he was looking at all of the different remedies, including vaccines.
Therapeutics, everything.
Therapeutic, ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, femtitivine, even chlorine dioxide.
Here he's got to manage that other elephant in the room.
Trump's endorsement and ongoing pride around Operation Warp Speed.
Let's go back to it.
Not have any scientific basis, which Dr. Fauci has now acknowledged.
He said, we took it out of thin air.
But all of those changed during the Biden administration.
I became very narrowly focused.
We ended up with the worst, highest death count of any country in the world.
Mr. Chair, if I can just ask one.
Cheryl Hines, like, just being in curb and that, being an actor, I'm like, oh, I've got to deal with this shit now.
Cade, on the other side of the dais here, who's been responsible for healthcare policies over the last four years?
The Biden administration.
I mean the president.
The Biden?
Okay.
So I'd like to have heard more of those in oversight hearings over the last four years.
I haven't, but I'm glad that there's an acknowledgement that you're inheriting a problem that needs to be fixed.
Thank you.
Thank you, Senator.
Senator Sanders.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Mr. Kennedy, thanks for being with us.
I very much like the slogan that you coined, Make America Healthy Again.
Make America Healthy Again!
It actually sounds like Larry David, so you've basically got Kirby enthusiasm now.
Despite spending, as you indicated, two or three times as much per capita on healthcare as other nations, we have 85 million people who are uninsured, underinsured.
Some people are basically in support of him.
Like Bernie, no?
Other countries, and for working class people in this country, they are living six, seven years shorter lives than the top 1%.
We got a problem.
Got a problem?
It's an enormous problem!
And we're gonna have to solve it!
Last year, the insurance industry in this country made over $70 billion, while at the same time, 85 million Americans are uninsured or underinsured.
Do you agree with me that the United States should join every other major country on earth and guarantee health care to all people as a human right?
Yes, no.
Yes, no.
After a very long-winded question, I demand a monosyllabic response.
Is health care a human right?
In the way that free speech is a human right?
Yeah.
I would say it's different because with free speech it doesn't cost anybody anything.
But in healthcare, if you smoke cigarettes for 20 years and you get cancer, you are now taking from the pool.
And so are you guaranteed the same rate or is there also a duty?
I'm sorry.
I'd love to talk for an hour with you.
We've got a few minutes left here.
All right.
Every other country in us says healthcare, whether you're poor or rich, younger role to human right.
I'm not hearing you say that.
All right, you've talked about the drug companies, and maybe we agree on this one.
As you all know, despite the drug companies making over $100 billion in profits, paying CEOs outrageous compensation packages, we, in some cases, pay 10 times more for the same drug.
Will you support legislation that I will introduce, which says...
That in America we should not be paying a nickel more for prescription drugs than people around the rest of the world.
Yes?
No?
To equalize it?
Not to equalize it.
That we should not be paying more than other countries for the same damn drug.
President Trump has asked me...
In fact, I had a meeting with President Trump a week ago where we showed him the charts.
He knows the charts.
We're paying ten times more from Europe.
That's right.
And are you going to commit to us that you will end that absurdity?
End it!
It's absurd!
End it!
We should end that disparity.
Good.
Okay.
That's great.
All right.
I happen to believe that climate change is real, it's an existential threat, and it is a healthcare issue.
Donald Trump...
I'm gonna drag that into this!
It's a healthcare issue, and it's also something we can use to create contention.
Now, what are you going to do about cloud seeding?
I mean, no, not cloud seeding.
What are you going to do about aluminum in vaccine?
No, I don't mean that.
What are you going to do about the FDA funding, being funded by the pharmaceutical companies that they reckon?
No, I don't mean that.
Is it getting hotter?
You don't think climate change is a hoax, is what I'm hearing?
My job here is to make a good something.
I'll just ask you that, Mr. Kenny, not at your question.
I answered your question, Senator Sanders.
Okay, you disagree with the President on that?
I answered your question.
George, bring me my calzone!
That is it.
Good old boy, Cookie.
It's when Larry David used to do the voice of Steinberger in Seinfeld, it's that voice, isn't it?
I would say a majority of the people are pro-choice.
There's a strong minority who are pro-life.
A year and a half ago you went to New Hampshire.
Running for president, gave a speech, and you talked about government should not tell a woman what she can do with her own body.
That's her choice.
Now, I think everybody on that side is pro-life.
I think everybody here is pro-choice.
I have never seen any major politician flip on that issue quite as quickly as you did when Trump asked you to become...
He's dragging in climate change and pro-life, pro-choice.
Isn't HHS primarily about the undue influence of economic and financial and corporate entities on the public healthcare system?
Let me know in the comments and chat.
Don't you just want to see, for example, vaccine makers bought to heal?
Don't you want drugs to be available at a reasonable price?
Don't you want Americans to prioritise health that originates in healthy eating, so impacts the power of big food, good medicine, a holistic purview when it comes to the resolution and treatment of diseases?
Why are they trying to make it about abortion and climate change?
Let me know in the comments and chat.
Let's go back.
Right now, as I understand it, on their website, they are selling what's called onesies.
These are little things clothing for babies.
One of them is...
Last man, I'll chew that for a second.
What about onesies?
And is it okay for me to wear one?
To lay around in a onesie, enjoying life?
Facts, no problem.
Now you're coming before this committee and you say you're pro-vaccine.
Just want to ask some questions.
And yet your organization is making money selling a child's product.
To parents for $26, which casts fundamental doubt on the usefulness of vaccines.
Can you tell us now that you will, now that you are pro-vaccine, that you're going to have your organization take these products off the market?
Senator, I have no power over that organization.
I'm not part of it.
I resigned from the board.
That was just a few months ago.
You founded that.
You've certainly...
You must still know their numbers!
Stop selling the onesies, Georgie!
Are you supportive of these onesies?
I'm supportive of vaccines.
Are you supportive of these onesies?
There is a crisis across America.
People are eating food that makes them sick and taking drugs that make them sicker.
Now tell me, once and for all!
To continue selling our products.
Thank you.
Senator Blackburn.
Thank you so much, Mr. Chairman.
And thank you so much for being with us today.
And I have no doubt that you will be confirmed and you are going to do such a solid job for the people of this country.
I do have several issues I wanted to talk with you about and didn't have time to cover them all when we met prior to the meeting.
But rural health care is very important to me and the people of Tennessee.
78 of our 95 counties are rural counties.
Now, over the last few years, we've seen hospital closures.
So we have focused on access in rural areas.
And my rural health agenda, which is bipartisan, It focuses on innovation, telehealth, access points.
It focuses on work shortages.
And also, Senator Warner and I have together focused on making certain that we address the Area Wage Index and do that fairly for our citizens that are in rural communities.
So I would like a commitment from you that when confirmed, you And your CMS administrator will work with us to make certain that the area wage index is balanced and that it is...
It's a real obstreperous exercise, isn't it?
The hearing.
It's not a good faith enterprise.
It's not like, right, okay, let's carry out a confirmation hearing in order to ensure that RFK is legitimately the right person to be the Secretary for American Health.
It's like...
How can we fuck this guy up?
How about onesies?
Let's just inexplicably talk about onesies.
Dad is going to put a spanner in the works, Georgia!
Dr. Oz will certainly work with you to make them sensible.
We look forward to that.
Also, you and I, before you came forward as the secretary, the nominee, we had talked in years past about over-medicating youth.
And concerns over that.
And I was looking at a report from TenCare, which is our Medicaid program in Tennessee.
And I was concerned when I saw a number that TenCare had spent $90 million in 2024 alone on ADHD. This was 417,000 of our children.
And $90 million.
To me, that is...
Heartbreaking what is happening there.
So how will you prioritize oversight of prescribing practices while promoting alternative solutions such as counseling, behavioral therapies, community-based interventions for our youth?
Exactly.
And that's the solution.
15% of American youth are...
One thing I'll say is good about America.
And American politics is the theatre of this is at least public and visible.
In Cambodia, say, in the late 1960s, they would have just shot you in a ditch.
So this is an improvement.
At least we're able to watch this.
But in watching it, what you see is the bad faith within these institutions.
Those of you that are critical of Bobby Kennedy for any one of the reasons that a person might be, what I would say is he is discreet from the category of politicians that I would generally dismiss as...
Sort of like corrupt and unconscionable.
This is like this dude, environmental lawyer, outspoken on complex subjects, wrote that book about Fauci.
If he infiltrates the system, even though someone with his surname, it seems preposterous to consider them an outsider, I cannot see how that won't bring about meaningful change in both food and pharma in your country.
Let's go back.
States have been prohibited from using Medicaid funds for care provided by institutions for mental disease.
We refer to them as IMDs.
These are psychiatric hospitals, residential treatment facilities with more than 16 beds.
This is a discriminatory exclusion, and it denies payment for medically necessary...
She's at least asking legit questions.
That stuff about onesies, man, that was out of control.
Let's have a look at a little bit of our content around this.
This is sort of a post on seeing two of the most outspoken critics of Bobby Kennedy becoming health secretary.
Ah, McConnell, Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham.
And this is some information on the donations they get from the healthcare industry.
Mitch McConnell received $715,000 from pharma companies and Lindsey Graham $2.2 million in a year.
That's extraordinary.
That's extraordinary.
That's what we should be focused on.
We should be focused on deep institutional financial corruption.
I would say over onesies.
Let's go back to it.
Senator Lujan.
What?
No, I'm next.
You're next.
I'm next.
I hope he's not actually crying.
I mean, so mean.
That's pretty mean, that remark about onesies on the website.
...on your nomination, Mr. Kennedy, and...
I've been absent only because I've been in another hearing with the nominee to be the Commerce Secretary.
So I will review everything that you've said today and look at that diligently.
But one of the things that I wanted to discuss with you is I represent a very big innovation state.
And innovation in health care specifically.
Innovation like NIH funding to the Fred Hutch Cancer Center.
That helped develop the HPV vaccine, which has the potential to eliminate over 95% of cervical cancer.
NIH also funds a lot of jobs and grants nearly 11,000 people in the state of Washington and over $1.2 billion worth of grants.
So while I agree with you on healthy foods, I definitely am troubled by the medical research side of innovation and some of the things that you have said.
In fact, this issue about laying off 600 employees at NIH or giving the fact...
Plus cleaning out permanent deep state bureaucrats.
For example, I wouldn't like you to clear out deep state bureaucrats so that we can retain control over these institutions regardless of which political party is in power.
COVID hit.
And we were the first in the nation.
We had the first case and it really was...
The fast response by the University of Washington that really helped save lives.
So I just want to know that are you aware of how harmful these issues could be for public health?
That public health in and of itself could be affected by these kind of anti-science views?
Senator, I have always been A science person, a pro-science person, I believe in evidence-based medicine, in gold standard science, when I said, and I've explained this before you came in, that 600 people out of a workforce of 91,000 is pretty typical.
Last year alone, President Biden replaced 3,000 people at HHS and 700 at NIH. I want to say this.
I said give infectious disease a break because that's been the principal preoccupation.
Infectious disease...
Chronic disease is 92%, accounts for 92% of deaths in this country, and almost nothing is studied at NIH about the etiology of our chronic disease epidemic.
Fundamental point, chronic disease causes 92% of all mortality while we obsessively focusing on viruses.
it's obviously because that's profitable and the chronic diseases are profitable not to cure but to retain the industries of oncology and cardiology or at least the pharmacological aspects of that and presumably others benefit from that type of morbidity.
It's amazing.
That has got to be much more the focus.
There's probably a lot of people that may not agree with this, but we're making regenerative heart tissue now at the University of Washington.
So, yes or no, do you commit to protecting stem cell research for scientific agencies if confirmed?
I will protect stem cell research.
Stem cell research today can be done on umbilical cords and you don't need fetal tissue.
He's a good man because he understands the geek.
So, by saying that, that's abortions though, so...
Job is, Senator, to enforce the law.
Okay, so I want to move to PBMs because PBMs are driving up drug prices.
And one of the biggest things that we need to do here, I think, in a new administration is get a handle on everything that is driving up prices and lower them.
The report found that PBMs generated $1.4 billion from spread pricing.
That is where they are able to basically set the price, not reimburse pharmacies, and then pocket the rest.
We've had bipartisan legislation in several different committees now to get at this.
What do you think the solution is?
I think one of the really notable achievements of this panel was the PBM legislation that they put together in a bipartisan way.
I haven't met a single senator.
Well, actually one only.
Of the 60-odd senators that I talked to, all of them talked about PBMs and how important it was and work.
President Trump, during his first administration, pushed through a law or pushed a law to give transparency to PBMs.
It got overruled during the Biden administration.
Luckily, this panel is resuscitating that.
President Trump is absolutely committed to fixing the PBMs.
My time is running out, so I just want to clarify.
You believe that we should pass these laws that now have been proposed in the Senate?
I haven't read the entire law, so I don't know, but I think that we need to reform the PBMs.
I think we need to get rid of all of these vested interests that are draining money from the system.
Okay, somebody suggested, though, that you thought you should convene the PBMs and talk to them about some sort of self-regulation.
So I am trying to distinguish between these people who basically are doing illegal activities and ripping off...
Really, they're creating pharmacy deserts in my state.
So I'm asking you whether you believe that we have to legislate in this area.
Again, I'm not being...
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Will you?
In the name of God, do it!
Let's see what they're doing now.
About 72 million plus the 7 million kids who are on chips.
Appreciate that, 72 million.
Yes or no, is it important that expected mothers and newborns Sir, I'm afraid you said newborns, so I can't answer the question.
I got it right that time, though.
Mr. Kennedy, do you know how many babies born in this country are covered through Medicaid?
So they want to push Medicaid, which is about ensuring that the welfare budgets are protected.
And they want to talk about stuff that focuses on vaccines and is sort of, in a vague way, beneficial to pharma.
If you want to know why vaccines are so beneficial to pharma, look at the work of Aaron Siri, who says because they're testing mode, not even the restrictions around clinical trialling, it's more the restrictions around marketing.
Because, no, litigation.
You can't litigate against vaccine injury.
So that means...
It just becomes exponentially more valuable to invest in new vaccines than anything else.
Premiums are too high, the deductibles are too high, and everybody's getting sick.
Too much money is going to the insurance industry.
I have a series of yes or no questions.
They're pretty simple.
Because you heard we're not going to...
I like saying the word new burn, burn, new bum.
I'll get it in a minute.
My questions are simple.
In New Mexico, as you know, Medicaid is often measured state by state.
It might surprise you if you look at some of those surveys.
In New Mexico, the response was 90% of New Mexicans on Medicaid report satisfaction getting care, 80% getting specialist care, 85% getting urgent care, 95% ease of filings out of focus.
Not to pick on any one of my colleagues, but in Louisiana.
Here's Callie Means with some insights into why certain senators might attack Bobby Kennedy.
Have a look at this from Cali Means.
Let's just look at Mike Pence.
He's sending letters to senators and running ads attacking Bobby Kennedy on the pro-life issue.
Mike Pence's group is funded by the pharmaceutical industry.
That was just recently reported.
So pharma is funding the disgraced Mike Pence to attack Bobby on this issue, the life issue.
Let's back up here, Martha.
There hasn't been a bigger pro-life message in America, in American politics, in the Make America Healthy Again movement.
This is a war to improve children's health.
Bobby Kennedy has made clear he's going to follow the Trump administration's pro-life policy.
So you just have an example right there.
These culture war issues are being weaponized by interests that demonstrably profit from kids being sick.
What pro-life ultimately ought to become is an absolute reverence and regard for the sanctity of all life.
Life is precious and beautiful.
Once you accept that premise, then the way that food is regulated, the way that exercise is encouraged, the way that big pharma is controlled, the ability of gargantuan industries to control politics through donations, relationships and other means has to be impaired.
If it ever becomes an incursion on the sanctity of life, the pro-life perspective that we've just described.
Let's go back to this confirmation and take a look at the sort of whirring cogs of American politics.
A brief exposure to an aspect of the machine.
Of course, though, it's still to some degree sanitised.
But it can't be that tightly controlled, otherwise you wouldn't have Bernie Sanders say, do you endorse these onesies?
Let's go back to it.
That's about...
Four million folks across the country, and in New Mexico, Iowa, and Idaho, they have triggers that it would immediately have to go into effect if, in fact, that gets cut.
The reason I'm asking those questions is there's been a lot of chatter and conversations around Medicaid.
Now, I agree we can always do better, and we must be doing better in America.
But Medicaid has been shown to improve health outcomes, including mortality, quality of life, and access to preventative care as well.
And there's some areas, Mr. Kennedy, that you and I touched on specific to Native American communities.
One of the concerns that I have are these programs matter to folks.
You shared your passion about caring for folks.
I believed that passion.
My question in this area is, as you know, when folks are doing research and they're going to check to see if medicine works on someone, If they're not included in that trial, it often doesn't help them.
That's what all the evidence shows.
So what are you going to do when programs are eliminated to require the inclusion of Native Americans in clinical trials when it comes to life-saving medicine?
I'm going to do everything I can to make sure there's Native Americans in clinical trials.
I said to you, when I visited your office, I spent 20% of my career working on native issues.
My family's been deeply involved with them.
My family, my father and uncle, were big critics of the Indian Health Service.
Failure to deliver good health results or health care on the reservations.
I'm going to bring...
It's weird, isn't it, that people bring up, like, some, not, I don't want to say tangential in a derisory way, but...
When you're looking at the vast obligations that anybody attempting to steer American health in a better direction would have to corral, when you look at some of the inquiries, onesies, Native Americans in clinical trials, these are not the centripetal matters.
What is at the centre is the sanctity of life, the significance of health, and how America has somehow integrated sickness.
Into its way of life.
That sickness has become necessitated because it's profitable.
Because big pharma and big food need you sick, you are sick.
And government is preventing that conversation from taking place.
Bobby Kennedy has become the kind of flag bearer, torch bearer of that conversation and now, astonishingly, is on the brink of accessing the levers of actual power.
Those positions are adequately staffed.
I will follow up in writing in those specific areas because I think there's some commonality here, but answers matter.
And so I'd like to get those as timely as possible.
The last thing, Mr. Chair...
Answers matter.
Black lives matter.
Native Americans in clinical trials matter.
Answers matter!
Family that I've been working with to work with my Republican colleagues when it comes to autism and federal programs and making a difference in these families' lives and this little girl's life.
What I'm asking now, Mr. Chairman, is unanimous consent to enter into the record an article from Autism Speaks titled, quote, Do Vaccines Cause Autism?
End quote.
And I'll note that the first sentence states, quote, I've got some other content to talk about today, like, and even stories around this, but I just want to hear this vaccine autism bit, don't you?
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We've got to go for a pee.
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Let's go back to their hearing and see if they're back from a pee.
They're not.
What's on screen there?
Look at them, just shambling about.
Go back again to them shambling about...
They're like rats, I tell you!
They're like fucking rats, I tell you!
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This is, um, I like this.
We could even look at Nicole Shanahan saying they're going to fund primary challenges of 13 specific US senators.
Ooh, that's good.
Or Caroline Kennedy slams RFK as a predator before confirmation hearing.
Let's have a look at that while we've got a chance.
In a blistering letter to Senators, Caroline Kennedy, the daughter of the late President John F. Kennedy, calls her cousin, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., a predator.
I mean, that's so heavy, isn't it?
Like the family history of the Kennedys.
JFK assassinated.
RFK assassinated.
Loads of other Kennedys dying.
Bobby Kennedy looks like he's going to pull America back from the brink of perpetual health crises.
Then his cousin goes, that guy's a predator.
I mean, your cousin!
Mind your own business!
Kennedy says she is able to speak out now because she's no longer the U.S. ambassador to...
Finally able to speak out now that he's about to get in a position of power and my interests are aligned with the centralized and globalized forces that oppose an anti-corporate figure like my cousin Bobby.
The predator.
One Christmas, he prayed so hard on not only me, but our pets.
And praying on something, by the way, that just means focusing on it and hunting it.
And like eagles are predators, and I like eagles.
...to Australia.
She's urging senators to reject her cousin for the position of Secretary of Health and Human Services, saying he's a hypocrite who vaccinated his own children.
I saw him vaccinating a million kids one day.
He was vaccinating them.
He was offering ice creams with one hand and vaccines with people who just got out of their way to be mean about him.
Who vaccinated his own children while crusading publicly against vaccines.
Kennedy says he led his siblings and cousins into a path of drug use and addiction.
He's a drug addict!
By the way, one of the things I've never really said about Bobby Kennedy is as a person...
In recovery, he will have unique insights to the issues of addiction, mental illness, grief, despair, as well as his obvious and evident expertise in matters like nutrition, health and fitness, wellness, avant-garde and outside treatments.
Chiropractic, to name but one example.
I know a lot of people are cynical about chiropractic, but I believe in it, and it's really helpful for me if you have the right chiropractor, same as if you have the right doctor.
He's a person who respects science, respects law, and of course he's made mistakes.
An addict is a fallen and broken person that has changed and surrendered and demonstrates that change by essentially fasting.
Fasting from drugs and drink and in my case, literally bloody everything.
I ate a chocolate bar yesterday.
That was a brief moment of respite.
My point is this.
RFK is in so many ways so much better qualified than any of the people that have the...
Goal!
To interlocute and inquire, although I recognise a confirmation hearing requires that they do that, but it's so plain that what they're doing is voicing the opinions and hostilities of an establishment that doesn't want an oppositional, outspoken, transparent and authentic man like Bobby Kennedy in the hen house making significant choices.
That predator, see?
Hen house!
Predators!
And addiction.
His basement, his garage, his dorm room were always the center of the action.
Where drugs were available, and he enjoyed showing off how he put baby chickens and mice in a blender to feed to his hawks.
It was often a perverse scene of despair and violence.
Then, the hawks themselves.
Some of them had revolting feathers sticking at their skin and beaks.
Beaks and their faces would eat those baby mice.
She's describing nature.
He would often, in his digestive system, bake hard stools and feces before dilating his anus and allowing them to drop out.
He would pee urine into a...
Like, if you describe stuff in detail, it's revolting.
Including a predator.
What does she mean?
When's she gonna back...
Yeah, there were Miss Molly in the chat with those mice dead.
He would put mice on a paste and go, like, what about foie gras?
Foie gras.
That's burst goose liver spread on a cracker and eaten.
Like, if you describe that, it's disgusting.
I mean, what about any sex act in a loving marriage?
That's disgusting.
The problem is you can make anything disgusting if your intention is to make it disgusting.
And the intention is to...
Destroy Bobby Kennedy and that heartens me and makes me feel like, oh man, this guy's going to do something.
It's how I came round to Trump anyway.
It's like, hold on a minute.
So many of these absolute assholes hate him.
He must be alright.
That's actually, they persuaded me.
They persuaded me.
Back to Bobby Kennedy's cousin who calls him a predator.
And violence.
Caroline Kennedy says her cousin continues to grandstand off the assassinations of her father.
He grandstands on those assassinations.
Can you believe that?
In the victim culture we live in now, where people are like, I heard someone mention a fart and I'm still getting over it.
Whether it's the woke side of it or the kind of legislating where there's a blame, there's a claim, I hurt my toe, give me $100,000.
To sort of say that someone's grandstanding over the assassination.
Like, imagine this.
Your uncle, the President of the United States, gets killed by the government.
Like, wait, how long do you think...
It would be before he thought, yeah, I don't want to talk about that anymore.
No wonder he's putting baby birds and mice on a paste and feeding it to a hawk.
That's so distressing.
And then his own father, presumably similarly murdered with some form of state malfeasance or intervention.
He's been grandstanding about that for ages.
Unlike me, who never tries to use my family ties to...
Wait a minute.
I'm right this minute reading a statement on the news, exploiting my family ties, and claiming that it's bad that I saw a mouse go in a blender.
If it's bad that a mouse went in a blender, how much badder is it that the President of the United States was murdered by the government?
He's grandstanding on a...
She's grandstanding about a mouse in a blender!
Her father and his father.
She says she's certain both men would be disgusted by his actions.
This just in, I've traveled through time into the mind of JFK and RFK Senior.
And they said, vote Biden.
What?
It's too late to vote Biden.
Oh, uh, they said...
Please do not confirm him in the Senate hearings.
How extraordinary!
So whether it's watching the Senate hearings themselves and hearing the ridiculous questions, plainly geared towards antagonising or otherwise sabotaging RFK's confirmation, or the way that the media circles their wagons and brings to the forefront negative ideas,
it's clear that the confirmation process and Bobby Kennedy's confirmation in particular Your forefathers did a great thing.
They did create the potential for a true republic where the people's will could be served through electoral processes.
But ever since then, as they themselves predicted, corporate interests have intervened, inveigled, got involved and stuck in, attempted to usurp the process.
So when we watch the confirmation together and we see Cheryl Hines sat back there, we're getting an insight.
Into a part of the machine.
And when we see media reporting like we just saw then, what we start to understand is this is not an objective process.
It's a kind of theatre.
I mean, at the moment, I still don't know whether Bobby's going to get confirmed.
I would say this.
The confirmation of Bobby Kennedy is a seal, at least on some optimism, that there could be real change.
If he doesn't get confirmed, it's an indication that the powers of corruption are still very much in control of the direction of your country, America.
But that's just what I think.
Let me know what you think in the comments and the chat.
Thank you so much for joining us today.
Let's go back to the confirmation hearing.
With USDA and with the farm community to make sure that we don't lose more farmers in this country.
But we also transition to We offer and incentivize transitions to regenerative agriculture, to...
To no-till agriculture and to less chemically intensive.
And by the way, I've also met with the chemical industry and the fertilizer and herbicide companies, and they want to do the same thing.
And I think we're on the trajectory to do that, and we need to incentivize initiatives to accelerate that trajectory.
Mr. Chairman, if I could.
You know, the great news is that my farmers in Kansas Are selling products to Europe.
That today's regenerative practices, soil health, all those things are priorities for Kansas farmers.
Many of us are doing many of those things already.
We just need it to be more widespread.
If I could just wrap up my remarks, though, is that, again, going back to the big picture here, 60% of Americans have a chronic disease.
Mr. Kennedy, I believe for such a time as this that you're not just one of 300 million people.
I think that you are the person to lead HHS to make America healthy again, that God has a divine purpose for you, and I look forward to your confirmation and working with you to make America healthy again.
Thank you, Senator.
Thank you.
Senator Warnock.
Thank you so much, Chairman Crapo and Ranking Member Wyden.
It's great to be here.
Mr. Kennedy, welcome.
Welcome to you and to your family.
Thank you for meeting with me a few days ago.
I'd like to follow up, if I might, with some of the issues that we discussed in my office.
I want to talk to you first about the CDC, or the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
I'm proud of the work that the CDC does, proud that it's located in Georgia.
With more than 10,000 employees in my state.
If confirmed, you would be the cabinet secretary over the CDC. Representing HHS, it's about 29% of the federal budget.
CDC is a part of that.
Do you agree that the CDC's work is critical to Georgia, critical for our country, and the health of the entire world?
Yes, Senator.
Senator Isaacson, my Republican predecessor, would have agreed with that.
Bless his memory.
He was a fierce advocate for the CDC, as am I. The CDC is an agency filled with hard-working, dedicated public health servants.
They wake up every single day.
Well, I do that.
You have to.
It's not a day if you don't.
Think often enough about their work.
Because it's easy not to celebrate the folks who are protecting you from that which doesn't appear because of the work that they're doing.
So grateful for the work that the CDC employees do.
Some of them are members of my church.
I saw that deep commitment firsthand when I visited the CDC just last summer.
uh...
mister kennedy you have compared the c_d_c_'s work to not see death camps you actually said Talking about some of that crazy stuff that went on during the pandemic and some of the terrible recommendations and the number of deaths and how irresponsible their advice ended up being.
Everyone's really lost their sense of humour.
Every single day and as you are presenting us the nominee for this position...
I need to know, do you stand by those statements that you made in the past, or do you retract those previous statements?
Senator, I don't believe that I ever compared the CDC to Nazi death camps.
I support the CDC. My job is not to dismantle or harm the CDC. Also, he's in a different position now.
When you're attacking something, you have to point out, now he's in charge of it.
He's got to make that work.
I'm not retracting it.
I never said it.
Well, actually, I have a transcript.
Of me saying that it's a Nazi death camp.
Let me read your words.
It says that the institution, CDC, and the vaccine program...
is your description of their work, is more important than the children that it's supposed to protect.
And you know, it's the same reason we had a pedophile scandal in the Catholic Church.
It's because people were able to convince themselves that the institution of the church was more important than these little boys and girls who were being raped.
That's pretty provocative language.
You said...
That was a pretty provocative thing, wasn't it?
People were raping kids.
Is that his fault?
Death camp.
Let me finish.
I'm just reading your words.
I mean, what happens?
What happened to these kids?
One in 31 boys in this country, their minds are being robbed from them.
Yeah, I was not comparing the CDC to Nazi death camps.
I was comparing the injury rate to our children to other atrocities.
And I wouldn't compare, of course, the CDC to Nazi death camps to any extent.
It enters into absurdity quite frequently because people have to say, I wouldn't compare the CDC, which is like a medical bureaucracy and regulatory entity, to a Nazi death camp.
So a Nazi death camp is like the worst thing you can envisage.
That's the point of it, isn't it?
Along with the pedophilia in the Catholic Church.
My prayer is that that's ended forever, Lord.
You use these Synecdoche's metaphors and images.
Illustratively.
So what he probably was doing is saying, with all these deaths that are coming out of irregularities and abnormalities and regulation problems within the CDC, it's actually as stark and as astonishing as something vivid like a Nazi death camp.
That's comparing the atrocities, as he said.
It's not comparing.
Do you know what I think?
I think that the CDC is...
Kind of a lot like a Nazi death cap.
That's comparing them.
It sounds like you stand by those statements.
Senator, my objective is to support the CDC. There's nothing I'm going to do that is going to be subjective and part of his job now.
It's an entirely different dynamics.
Ridiculous.
And it's free from that same government oversight investigation committee.
The panel is the ACIP panel within the CDC. I think 97% of the people on it had conflicts.
I don't believe that that's right.
I think we need to end those conflicts and make sure...
In the rumble chat, Pink Sunnet says, CDC has killed millions, so what is freedom of speech?
So, yes, that's the kind of rhetoric, isn't it?
That I suppose they really cling to.
The CDC has killed millions.
Has the negligence and ineptitude of the CDC cost lives?
Let me know in the comments and chat.
Is it okay for us using free speech to deploy a vivid, lurid metaphor in order to make a point?
Excuse me.
Isn't that the purpose of these kind of dialectics to convey information meaningfully and effectively?
The action that gagged HHS and CDC from communicating important public...
I will not wear an RFK onesie, lady longlegs.
That I won't do.
Public health and only non-essential travel and mass communications were temporarily suspended.
Pending the confirmation of a new HHS secretary, this is standard operating procedure for every administration.
I get it.
I don't think what we've seen over the last several days is standard operation for new administrations.
I think we're seeing some unprecedented actions, but you agree with it.
Last night, members of the CDC, along with other federal employees, were actually invited to To resign, these buyouts.
And I got text messages and folks I know who work for the CDC that do this important work who got that note.
And it's really important because my experience is that when you send out that kind of note, the folks who resign are the folks who you least likely want to see resign.
They got other options.
They're gifted.
That's going really into his personal perspective.
With the concept of resigning.
You often see people resign and you don't want to see resign.
Whereas those that won't resign are the ones you'd like to see resign most of all.
This has gone from like a Senate confirmation hearing to my opinions on resignations.
I suppose, of course, tethered to the idea that...
People of significance and import are resigning as a result of the incoming administration.
But because so much of Trump's popular appeal is his willingness and explicit intention of attacking deep state, or at least state, bureaucratic appointments, entrenched bureaucrats and marionettes, that isn't a bad thing.
That's a good thing.
Although...
Like the Senate is saying, sometimes the resigners are the last people you want to resign, and then what won't resign are the ones that you like to resign most.
This got into some really interesting tangential territory, full screen, Isaac, for this bit.
Today, in the show, we will be looking at RFK's confirmation hearing.
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What a special day it is.
The RFK confirmation hearing is, in a way, an opportunity to peel back the onion.
Ooh, I didn't like that image.
That wasn't an onion.
It looked like a butt.
Peel back the onion layers and look at how American democracy or republicanism works or doesn't work.
The reason I'm interested in RFK is because I know him.
When I first got to know RFK, he was a peripheral, not a peripheral figure.
You know, in his own life, but I mean, he occupied these marginal spaces as an outspoken advocate for vaccine-injured children, for example.
He was an environmental lawyer, a recovering addict.
Now, Bobby Kennedy, I would contest, let me know in the comments and chat if you agree with this, is the very central figure that epitomises the possibility for real change.
While Barack Obama might have campaigned on change, there was no politician as part of his I'm speaking about Andy Fauci there.
Bobby Kennedy is a unique political figure, and I think that we can tell We can somewhat litmus test the legitimacy of the radicalism of Trump's 25th administration by observing whether or not Bobby Kennedy gets confirmed.
And you can make the same case to a degree, not the same degree I don't think, but a comparable case with Tulsi Gabbard.
Today we're looking at the confirmation hearing, some of the funnier moments, and also what we're looking at is that also we're looking at some of the outspoken critics of Bobby Kennedy, like, you know, for example, Lindsay.
Graham or Mitch McConnell and where Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham might get their inspiration to condemn RFK. Also, here's Nicole Shanahan, his running mate when he was running as an independent presidential candidate.
Here's Nicole Shanahan vowing to fund primary challengers of 13 specific US senators who don't support RFK's confirmation.
It's an interesting aspect of this confirmation.
Let's have a look.
Hey everyone, tomorrow is a...
Pivotal moment in our nation's history at 10 a.m.
Eastern Time.
RFK will sit in front of the Senate Finance Committee for his confirmation hearing to be our nation's next Secretary of Health and Human Services.
I urge everyone to call their US senators over the following days and demand they vote yes on Bobby's nomination.
He is more than qualified.
He's proven, principled, and prepared to lead.
I'll share a list below of key senators.
If they represent your state, they need to hear from you.
If they don't, please call your own senator and ask them to vote yes.
We need as many votes as we can get.
This hasn't been widely reported, but in 2020, I cut large checks to Chuck Schumer to help Democrats flip two Senate seats in Georgia from red to blue.
The two candidates I helped elect, Senator Raphael Ornock and Senator John Ossoff, please know I will be watching your votes very closely.
I will make it my personal mission that you lose your seats in the Senate if you vote against the future health of America's children.
And more than that, I also want to say to Senators Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham, Lisa Markovsky, Susan Collins, Bill Cassidy, Tom Tillis, James Langford, Cory Booker, John Fetterman, Bernie Sanders and Catherine Cortez Masto.
This is a bipartisan message and it comes directly from me.
While Bobby may be willing to play nice, I won't.
If you vote against him, I will personally fund challengers to primary you in your next election and I will enlist hundreds of thousands to join me.
Big Pharma and Big Ag have exploited us for far too long.
It ends now.
You're either on the side of transparency and accountability or you are standing in the way.
The choice is yours.
Please choose wisely.
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OK, let's go back to the confirmation hearing.
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Let's have a look at the confirmation hearing.
Depression, thankfully, I had the resources to help me get through it, including...
A new generation of SSRI uptake inhibitors, which helped to clear my mind, get me back on track to being a mom and a wife and a productive, happy person.
And I'm really grateful for that therapy.
So I have some experience with this.
Okay, this is good.
This looks like this center is advocating for SSRIs.
I know a little bit about depression, and I know about the efficacy of SSRIs, and I know there's opposition to using therapies like ketamine therapies and microdosing.
I'm sort of interested in...
I'm interested in psychiatric health.
I know that mental health and addiction are at the forefront of the Maha movement's new and intended manner for managing governing through the HHS. So this is significant.
And I know that in the pharmaceutical industry there are many entrenched interests that want to keep us perpetually taking drugs that maybe don't even benefit us psychiatrically, although there has to be a degree of efficacy to perpetuate the cycle, doesn't there, like SSRIs?
People say generally now they don't work that well, but they must be effective enough to warrant their ongoing use, even though everyone I know that's ever taken them and when I've taken them myself say, I'm not sure about this stuff.
And even the notion that the generation of serotonin should be the forefront of mental wellness.
There are alternative arguments to that that are more holistic, not so particular.
Let's see what Bobby says.
I am only...
Putting into the record what you have said, Mr. Kennedy.
You're mischaracterizing my statements, and I'm happy that you had a good experience on SSRIs.
Many Americans have a very good experience on it.
Others have not.
But that would be an issue between them and their physicians, and not for the...
Yeah!
Like, when there's medical emergencies, that's between a person and their physician.
And that's why there's no recent memories of propaganda around medical matters or turning it into a philosophy or making masks a kind of flag or making vaccines a political issue.
That's literally...
Oh, the good science?
Of course they do.
That's all I believe, too.
And you and I are in agreement, Senator.
And to your point that you made when you made these statements, it was not based on good science.
I don't know what it was based on.
I was saying the science needed to be done.
I was saying these are potential culprits.
We're coterminous.
And I named other things.
I said video games.
I said social media.
I said SSRIs.
The SSRIs have a black box warning.
Warning of suicidal...
Mr. Chair, I will submit to the chair the information that I have about what Mr. Kennedy has said of linking antidepressants to school shootings.
Thank you.
Because actually, I'm sticking with this!
It was clearly part of an assessment that RFK offered of the various factors in increased mental illness and suicide among young people.
The biggest killer of young men is...
Like, suicide is a massive crisis.
Suicide and addiction, significant crisis in your country, but across the world.
These are crises of meaning, of purpose, of spirit.
And in Bobby Kennedy, somewhat uniquely, you have a politician who can speak to that, and from that place, that he sees it as a spiritual problem.
In fact, the whole Maha movement has at its centre a spiritual idea that there is a fracture, that there is a fissure, that there is a brokenness in the American...
I was going to say psyche, but I actually mean the American spirit.
And it can be revivified.
It can be healed that you can make America healthy.
Healthy again.
Bobby Kennedy stands precisely for that idea.
The interest of Big Pharma and the way that that lady advocated just then for SSRIs.
She's a person that's been given a paper in a corridor in office and told, listen, here's some things you can say about SSRIs that are broadly supportive of them.
This means SSRIs are okay.
Then a statement where Bobby Kennedy appears to mention SSRIs in the same breath as school shootings.
And then what they've got is a way of presenting, right, this is why RFK shouldn't be in power, and this is why it's okay for Big Pharma to continue to profit from SSRIs, and this is why it's okay to frame school shootings as having this meaning and being supportive of this set of political ideas.
Everything is, this is such a wonderful insight into propaganda.
Oh God, let's hear him.
We need to end that.
We need to end the old boy system.
We need to have replicatable science and be completely transparent about raw data.
Thank you, sir.
In recent years, particularly during the COVID pandemic, there's been a lot of skepticism about our public health institutions.
Some of this, I would say, is warm.
You shouldn't have done that sniff.
It's now created a pervasive lack of trust from the public that these institutions are acting in bad faith or failing to act with objective criteria.
Failing, in short, to act in the best interests of the public.
If confirmed, Mr. Kenney, how will you work to regain the public's trust?
I suspect it will take some time in these important public health institutions.
Through radical transparency, I'm going to make these...
The reason people don't trust the public health agencies is because they haven't been trustworthy.
And you gave the example of COVID. At the beginning of COVID, Everybody was rushing.
That's a quote, by the way.
The reason people don't trust public health agencies is because they haven't been trustworthy, in inverted commas, RFK, right now in the hearing.
Only 23% of Americans are complying.
That means 77% of Americans no longer trust CDC, and that is the problem.
Yes, sir.
In the absence of full information, I think I agree with you, but I want your response.
Might it make sense to share that absence of full information with the American people, that uncertainty?
I think one of the things, by observation and experience, that I saw during the pandemic, because we had certain prominent doctors appear on television and indicate, no, you absolutely must not wear a mask.
Two weeks later, it's yes, you must wear a mask.
But they were certain.
And they even demonized people for not following the latest science, knowing there's a high level of uncertainty in that science.
Would a measure of humility, and as you say, radical transparency demonstrates humility, help rebuild trust over a period of years?
Absolutely.
We need to tell Americans what we don't know.
We need to make sure studies that reach a null hypothesis are also published.
And that doesn't happen.
Sir, I think you are right about why health care costs are so high in the first place.
The answer is indeed chronic disease.
Ninety percent of our health care spending goes towards managing it, as you say in your open statement.
It's not in the main managing it.
Where does the revenue go for that management?
It's not in the main because we have greedy executives at innovative, world-class companies.
It's not in the main because we haven't yet adopted an unsustainable Medicare for All scheme.
It's because of this.
So I'm encouraged that you intend to make that a point of emphasis as it pertains to...
Your future leadership.
I will say, with respect to COVID, it's not over for a lot of Americans.
It's not over.
I know the mission accomplished banner was convenient for the last administration, but as we continue to navigate the ongoing impacts of the COVID pandemic, we have many individuals here in the United States and around the world who are suffering from long-term health effects that significantly we have many individuals here in the United States and around the world who are suffering from long-term health effects that significantly impact their
Funding for long COVID research was appropriated by Congress in December of 2020, followed by additional funding directed by the Biden administration in February 2024.
Patient groups and industry publications have criticized the slow pace of clinical trial design and enrollment.
Yeah, we'll be getting onto the subject of vaccine injury pride fault.
folks.
How close can this question get to that subject without saying, without talking about the inquiries around the world or our increasing understanding into side effects?
I've seen people posting memes of them mad white blood clots.
Do you remember that for a minute, when people were getting mad white blood clots?
Do they really want to have this conversation?
Patient groups, experts and industry publications have raised concerns around existing long COVID funding being spent on observational research.
In particular, criticism was directed towards recover funding being used to duplicate existing findings instead of funding trials for potential treatments or diagnostics.
If confirmed, Mr. Kennedy, will you work with Congress so that going forward, long COVID funding will be directed primarily towards trial or novel research directions and not replicating existing observational research, yes or no?
Absolutely, Senator, with enthusiasm.
Thank you so much.
Something gets a kind question.
I suppose we should do some of our other stuff.
We've got a bunch of other work to do.
Maybe I'll try and do one here.
Let's keep streaming everywhere.
I think it's pretty good.
One thing that's not coming up in the Bobby Kennedy hearings, one name curiously absent, Anthony Fauci, becoming popularly regarded as the real villain of the pandemic.
And of course he was, I don't want to say immortalised, but he was somewhat rendered and explored in Bobby Kennedy's best-selling book, The Real Anthony Fauci.
When that was the number one New York Times bestseller, by the way, the New York Times just published an empty space.
Maybe they should do that for all of their newspaper, am I right?
Yo, let me know in the comments in the chat.
Here is Matt Taibbi and Tucker Carlson discussing how the pardoning of Fauci by Biden could have been a good thing, rather than what many of us perceived it to be a clear and plain demonstration of total corruption.
I'm just going to give you a pre-emptive pardon, just in case you pre-emptively need a rose garden.
There's no reason to pardon someone if they haven't done anything wrong.
The pardon itself should be reason for a mass investigation and inquiry into the actions and decisions of Anthony Fauci, but what we're seeing instead...
During the confirmation of RFK is an interrogation of the principle of inquiry and opposition and challenge and scepticism when it comes to accepting policy that appears to have been formulated around the will of Big Pharma.
Let's have a look at Matt Taibbi and Tucker Carlson talking about Fauci and how that pardon could somehow be a good thing.
I've not seen this clip yet and I can't see how it could be so I await persuasion.
The thing is...
How about these pardons?
They're a mistake.
If you want to know what's happening, they just made it a lot easier for us to find out.
Because now, once the pardon's delivered, the person can't plead the fifth.
If they're brought before a grand jury, they can't take the fifth anymore.
If they're brought before a congressional committee, they can't evoke their right against self-incrimination.
So they have to say something.
And this is what's so interesting, because I've been talking to Criminal defense attorneys, people who are former Senate investigators, some current Senate investigators, and they all kind of said the same thing.
It's so illogical to give somebody a pardon if you're trying to cover up things that the only reason you would really do it is if there's very serious crimes involved, right?
So that's a red flag for us.
When we see somebody getting a pardon, we think, well...
Why would they do that unless there's something really bad there, right?
So either it's a mistake where they just stupidly made it easier for everybody to investigate or there's something we don't know about that is interesting.
Perhaps one of those crimes that Fauci would not be able to take the fifth on is the crime of funding the research that led to COVID in the first place.
Wouldn't it be beyond deliciously ironic if the person that was put in charge of our response to COVID was the person that had somehow actually caused it?
I mean, what an extraordinarily What an extraordinary global farce that Anthony Fauci, who is in a sense presented as the public solution to COVID, was in fact the actual cause and creator of COVID. Let's have a look at Peter Navarro saying that Fauci knew where COVID come from.
Iraq used incredible weapons.
How do you know that?
We looked at the receipt to quote the great Bill Hicks.
Let's have a look.
Fauci, when he was sitting there, that SOB knew for a fact that that virus came from the Wuhan lab.
He knew that because he had funded the gain-of-function research in that lab, and he had already begun to design a cover-up.
And we know that from the emails he sent to a group of researchers, academics, trying to get their support to push that come-from-nature theory.
And that's the biggest lie of omission in American history.
Because if he had simply owned up to the fact that that thing came from the lab, we could have pressured the Chinese to give us the genome sequence.
Which would have allowed us to design an effective vaccine rather than the crap we wound up getting.
And again, Trump got lied to about that.
Not just by Fauci, but by Pfizer, the drug company.
In what way?
They didn't disclose the side effects of that.
And they weren't clear with him.
They made him think that it was a true vaccine, when it's not.
Time as a result of extraordinary political manoeuvring, offering some fascinating insights into why Anthony Fauci might want...
Certain things kept quiet and why he might be a significant beneficiary of a pre-emptive pardon because there's a lot that needed pre-emptive pardoning.
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Is Anthony Fauci the beneficiary of a pre-emptive pardon because he pre-emptively did a hell of a lot wrong?
It certainly seems like that's the case.
And maybe the RFK confirmation is the perfect time to look at some of the other people who played significant roles during the pandemic and perhaps themselves would benefit, or at least we would benefit, were they subject to an interrogation?
I'd like to see Bill Gates undergo some sort of investigation, wouldn't you?
Let me know in the comments.
And chat.
Okay, we'll go back to the confirmation hearing now, see what's going on.
It's impounded money.
So right now, the Medicaid website went down.
He's impounded money.
So the community health centers that Senator Warner was talking about are up in the air as to what they can do.
Do you believe that a president can impound money that has been appropriated by Congress?
Senator, I... Let me answer that.
Question about Medicare first.
I have never defended that program or the rapacious behavior by insurance companies or the PBMs.
I understand that's a huge problem.
All right.
I don't have time.
We've got to get over to vote.
But you've asked me five questions.
You've got to give me a chance to answer one of them.
Please be brief.
I brought in, if I get confirmed, I've already appointed a general counsel.
It's the first time in history as a former prosecutor who prosecuted the biggest Medicare fraud in the case in the state of West Virginia.
I brought in a prosecutor for that job instead of a bureaucrat.
Precisely...
To address the important issues that you raise here.
The only reason I didn't talk about these before is because I wasn't asked about them.
I agree with you 100%.
What about a president impounding money that, among other things, goes to health care?
And you're saying that that's illegal?
That's correct.
Well, my job is to uphold the Constitution.
I'm going to take an oath to uphold the Constitution and I will administer the law and uphold the Constitution.
Mr. Chairman, I believe under what we've discussed I control five minutes.
I'm going to take one and give one to each of my four colleagues that remain.
All right, and I would just say we really, this vote...
I'm just very generous with my minutes.
I mean, it's actually a fold of mine.
I'm always giving out minutes and minute maids, which probably get banned under RFK. Too much sugar.
...anti-vaccine statements with his handful of pro-vaccine statements.
Instead, he gave us a word salad and ducked the issue.
The same was true.
I don't like word salads.
He wrote a book playing down the threat.
Unless they have a good word salad sauce on the moon.
Concerned about it, and apparently families are still mourning in Samoa.
And my last point would be that Mr. Kennedy said today really wasn't about him.
And I just want to tell him it is all about you because I find your presentation to be both untrustworthy and unprepared because my colleagues have been seeing back and forth between Medicare and Medicaid program you're using when.
So I want colleagues to know I'm actually going to give my minutes out like candies.
He's taking ages.
Vote.
I'm going to urge that to my colleagues on both sides of the aisle to not make decisions on the basis of this session.
I thank you for the additional time.
And I guess my next minute is Senator Whitehouse, Senator Warren, and Senator Smith.
And again, one minute, please.
There's been a lot of conversation about long, late-term abortions here, and I just want to make clear what Rhode Island OBGYN doctors describe.
As what is almost always happening when a late-term abortion is needed.
It is a childbirth gone wrong.
The family has painted the room.
It has bought the crib.
Maybe even decided on the baby's name.
And has gone to the hospital to welcome the new baby into their family in what is supposed to be a happy event.
And then things went wrong.
Then the alarm started pinging.
The lights started flashing.
Is everyone using their minute to say the most dramatic thing they can think of?
Like a terrible death of a child during labour.
The mom's life is often at risk.
And she may have other children she needs to care for.
The baby's life may be at risk.
The doctor!
It's on a motorbike for some reason.
Hi!
That environment, the doctors and the family own that decision.
Government has no place in that room at that point.
And I think we need to understand when this late-term abortion gets bandied about...
Government don't have place in hardly any rooms.
It should just be really dry rooms full of...
Filing cabinets, tedium, mathematics and bureaucracy.
There should be nowhere near any ideology.
Government is not a sufficient force to marshal the great power of the Lord.
And when government gets in the way of that power, it creates a kind of hell on earth.
Offensive, really morally wrong, and I just want to make very clear what Rhode Island OBGYNs tell me is the situation when these procedures have to be deployed.
Senator Warren.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
So, Mr. Kennedy, I wanted to ask about your role in the 2019 measles outbreak in Samoa.
Do you know what's going on in the world?
Do you know in 2019 in Samoa there was an outbreak of measles?
So, let's make that the focus.
What about the onesies, though?
What about the onesies?
No, that's not more important than measles in Samoa.
Well, actually, the measles in Samoa is important because it happens as a result of people not taking vaccines.
And people ain't taking vaccines because Bobby Kennedy says we should ask questions of people that have legal indemnity when they try to mandate medicines.
...monumental for this movement.
So what happens?
Vaccinations go down, there's a measles outbreak, and children start dying.
Yeah!
Children!
Children!
Dying in a measles outbreak in a onesie.
You sent a letter to him promoting the idea that the children had died not from measles, but from, quote, defective vaccine.
You launched the idea that a measles vaccine caused these deaths.
You are a very influential man.
In fact, you are called the leader of the disinformation dozen.
I'm going to actually tap my pen for this.
This is a pen tapper!
The World Health Organization investigated this.
They say the claims are false.
It is not biologically possible what you claimed.
And yet, ultimately, more than 70 people died because they didn't get vaccines.
So my question is...
Are vaccines good?
And can we please continue to have control over whether or not people get vaccinated but simultaneously say it's a woman's right to choose when it comes to abortions?
Deaths of more than 70 people.
Anything you do differently?
No, absolutely not.
After the...
There were two incidents in which children died.
In 2015 and again in 28. 2015 it was from the measles vaccine.
That's with the New Zealand General Hospital.
I found the government of Samoa banned the measles vaccine after the 2018. I arrived in July of the next year after the ban had been in place for a year.
Mr. Chairman, understanding that you wanted to hold this to a minute and that I don't get to present all the facts and documentation, I've got...
How about if we just decide to make entries for the record on exactly what the record shows about Mr. Kennedy's participation?
And I think he's answered the yes or no question.
He takes no response.
Senator Warren, we will do that.
And Mr. Kennedy and...
They're right bastards, aren't they?
I mean, you can't watch too much of this without realizing they're absolute bastards.
Let's do...
What's this story?
We did that earlier.
Thanks for joining us today for this Bobby Kennedy watcher long special.
Hopefully this will result in him ultimately being confirmed.
Here's Glenn Greenwald talking about Caroline Kennedy.
We showed a little earlier Bobby Kennedy's cousin Caroline condemning him as a predator and mouse blender.
Caroline Kennedy's anti-RFK junior crusade, like the rest of the family, is neither noteworthy nor significant.
They're loyal Democrats.
It's central to their identity and their royalty status.
They hate RFK for supporting Trump.
They have zero medical expertise or knowledge.
Axelrod David.
It is noteworthy and significant that Caroline Kennedy is famously private about family matters.
You can't be famously private!
That's an actual direct contradiction.
It's felt moved, felt moved to issue this searing indictment of RFK Jr.'s nominee.
It's searing.
I actually didn't even mean to be seared, but I was seared by it.
It sizzled up my tit.
Go full screen on me, please.
Amazing.
Let's go back to the confirmation.
There's requiring Georgians to jump through a number of onerous bureaucratic hoops and fill out even more paperwork to verify work and get access to health care.
I ask this as someone who represents a state that has not expanded Medicaid.
The federal government, because of this waiver, spent $70 million on Georgia's Medicaid waiver.
82% of that went to administrative costs.
The point that I'm making is that the folks that they're insisting need to work.
Ninety percent of those folks are working, they are caregivers, or they have a disability.
Let me give you one example.
A woman I think of all the time, her name is Heather.
She's a traveling nurse from Dalton, Georgia, who falls into the Medicaid coverage gap.
Heather experienced a series of small strokes, leaving her unable to work full-time.
She's dedicated her life to caring for patients, but now she can't afford her own medical care.
Out-of-pocket costs because she doesn't make enough to qualify for tax credits to buy private insurance.
What does Heather need?
Does she need work requirements or does she need access to health care so she can finally get healthy and get back to work?
The individual that you described would need health care and not a work requirement.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you, and we are done with the questioning now.
Mr. Kennedy, I apologize to you, to the audience, and to all of my colleagues to have to rush it here at the end, but we have a vote on the Senate floor that they're going to close in about three minutes.
I want to thank you for appearing before this committee.
You have been accessible to the members and staff on both sides of the aisle of the Finance Committee throughout a rigorous process, and I want the whole world to know that you spent hours in meetings answering questions outside of this hearing and providing documents and responses on issue after issue after issue.
You've gone through the most thorough vetting process that any committee in this Congress puts anybody through, and I think that you have come through well.
And deserve to be confirmed.
I would like to remind my colleagues that the deadline for submitting any questions for the record is 5 p.m.
today.
5 p.m.
today.
And Mr. Kennedy, we ask that you respond to those questions as quickly as you possibly can.
With that, I'm going to leave you in this room and run over to vote.
This hearing will be adjourned.
I still encourage the audience to be polite and respectful.
I'm going to leave you here, and when you're ready to apologize, then we're going to let you out of here.
Bobby Kennedy has a statesman-like colleague, even seen him there.
It's iconic.
I hope the dude gets confirmed, man.
I really hope he does.
Let's go full screen on Russell.
Now, the...
Ah, that's what happens.
Don't worry, I know what that is.
Hello, darling.
That means we've done 99 minutes of this.
Incredible.
Hey, listen.
In a sense, explicitly what's happening is the confirmation.
What's happening explicitly?
Whilst explicitly we are discussing the confirmation of RFK, tacitly we are discussing the handling of the pandemic.
No pandemic.
No, Bobby Kennedy.
In a sense, because of Trump's endorsement of Operation Warp Speed, he needed to amortize that potential condemnation by incorporating into the camp a radical figure.
Of course, there are numerous reasons for the elevation, acceleration and reification of Bobby Kennedy, but one thing he does beautifully well is allows Trump to govern from a position of authority when it comes to Big Pharma, in spite of his involvement.
In the Operation Warp Speed period that, in a sense, was the commencement of the pandemic.
The pandemic breaks, Operation Warp Speed is the response.
Trump never fully disavows Operation Warp Speed.
Bringing Bobby Kennedy in allows those two ideas to exist simultaneously without...
Controversy or apparent contradiction.
The pandemic issue continues to define the news around the world.
In my country, Sajid Javid, one of the MPs responsible for COVID and for the vaccine...
Not responsible for COVID. It's not his fault, actually.
Madly.
He's not Anthony Fauci.
He didn't fund research in a lab and then receive royalties.
He didn't actually cause it.
Sajid Javid was responsible for the COVID... Vaccine rollout.
And in this clip, he tells the COVID inquiry he didn't know what the yellow card scheme was.
What is a yellow card?
Is it a way of chastising a footballer for a minor transgression before pulling out the red card?
Yes, I know you're American, but I'm English, dammit, and I remain...
English!
The yellow card in our country is the same as VAR's, I think, in yours.
It's the system for reporting adverse events as a result of a vaccine in this instance.
Let's have a look at Sajid Javid talking about this while we continue to discuss RFK and the RFK confirmation because the pandemic, in a sense, is the global political and health issue that's led to the ascent of Bobby Kennedy.
Let's have a look at Sajid Javid discussing.
The vaccine rollout and not knowing what yellow card events or potential vaccine injuries even are.
So I wasn't aware of the yellow card sort of scheme.
Mr Javid, I ask questions on behalf of the COVID adverse reaction and bereaved groups.
My questions are about the yellow card scheme, a matter of some importance to those I represent, as you'll understand.
You said in your statement that when you were Secretary of State for Health that the yellow card system was something that didn't come to your attention and therefore you couldn't answer the inquiry's questions about whether it's effective and observations.
You couldn't make any observations about the scheme and how it could be improved.
My question is then, how then was the government effectively monitoring adverse reactions if the health secretary yourself...
The individual responsible for overseeing the nation's health was unaware of the primary tool designed for this purpose.
So you're saying that just because I didn't know what reporting a vaccine injury was as a concept, and I hadn't heard of it being a possible thing that could even happen, that that might impede my ability to receive those complaints when I was the government minister in charge of the whole thing?
Hmm, I respect your question, but I won't answer it.
Thank you.
It's a very reasonable question, of course.
What I would say is that I wasn't aware of the yellow card scheme.
Understood.
But you said in answer to questions to Mr Keith that you were having meetings about vaccine delivery every day.
You were the central role responsible for driving the vaccine project forward.
Would you agree that not knowing about the yellow card system, one of the centrepiece systems for adverse effect reporting, I'm using so many words to say.
Mate!
You hadn't heard that it was possible to report on vaccine injuries and you were in charge of near-mandating vaccines in a somewhat unique global pandemic.
Don't your lack of awareness that the possibility to report them bloody injuries even existed mean that you didn't have an objective perspective on whether or not people were being vaccine injured and they were being vaccine injured?
And not only that, the entire pandemic, in retrospect, starts to look like an endeavour to create opportunities for...
Profit and control.
Now, what have you got to say, you sexy little bastard?
I've seen safety during the rollout.
I think that, with respect, what I'd say is that I'm not sure me not knowing what the yellow card system is or was would have made any difference.
Because I'm not aware.
That's amazing, actually.
Imagine if your job was you worked at a pizza restaurant and you're in charge of it and you didn't know it was possible to complain if people had spat on the pizza.
That would definitely impede your ability to run the restaurant.
That's fundamental.
I didn't even know it was possible to complain about spit on a pizza.
I mean, I don't know what this pizza restaurant is actually.
It doesn't work as a concept because no one would build that into the machine.
It doesn't make sense.
Look, let's have a look at how Sajid gets out of this.
Unless certainly it hasn't been brought to my attention at this point, that there was a problem with the system.
There was an issue with the system.
And so and I would suspect the reason it wasn't brought to my attention in those meetings that you just referred to was because no one within my department or the wide department thought it was an issue that was important enough to bring to the secretary of state.
What do you think then, Sir Sajid Javis, about this spike in unexplained?
Unexplained heart conditions.
Well, I don't know.
I didn't know it was possible to complain about a spike in heart conditions.
This article doesn't say who the article's by, by the way, guys.
It should say who it's by so that I can introduce it.
Hopefully it says on page one what it's by.
This is from the Daily Mail.
Scientists are calling for more research into vaccine side effects after this unexplained...
Unexplained spike in heart conditions.
Obviously, it's part of the same thing.
Canadian experts are calling for more research into heart damage.
Whoa.
Okay.
Actually, this is a bit of an endeavour, actually, because I'm coming off that.
I'm pressing stop.
That's actually going to be too difficult to do because it's so many sides.
That's like 14 consecutive sides.
And as I go through that, I'll have to remember, did I just press 34?
That's like I said.
We'll talk about that after.
Alright guys, let's leave it for today.
It's been an incredible show.
We'll get back, I guess, with reporting on Bobby Kennedy.
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We've got Wesley Huff coming on.
That was him there, popping up in that card.
You might see him on Joe Rogan.
I think we're going to have a fantastic conversation.
You know who else we need to go on?
It's Alex Conner, I think.
Alex O'Connor.
Yeah, we should do that, shouldn't we, Isaac?
Can you remind me that I said that at a time when it matters?
All right, then.
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