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The Second Biggest Sex Trafficking Ring In US History Exposed Today On The StoneZONE!
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The Stone Zone with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit Roger Stone.
Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.
He is a New York Times best-selling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.
As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.
Due to his four plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.
And now here's your host, Roger Stone.
Welcome, I'm Roger Stone, and yes, indeed, you are back in the Stone Zone.
Yesterday, my co-host Troy Smith, the Editor-in-Chief at Slingshot.News and I shook up the political world by exposing the nefarious plot by some House Republicans, we call them rhinos, to turn over control of the House of Representatives
to the Democrats so that a new speaker, Hakeem Jeffries, can pass a resolution declaring Donald Trump guilty of insurrection.
If that were to happen, the U.S. Senate, where Democrats control a majority 5149, would follow suit.
Now, for those who say, well, surely the courts will not let that happen, No, unfortunately, the U.S.
Supreme Court, in their Colorado ballot access decision, actually invited the Congress to do this.
Now, my co-host Troy Smith and I have dug even deeper and we found out who the nefarious financier of this entire plot is.
And we have learned That same financier, Paul Singer, the vulture capitalist hedge fund manager, is working a similar strategy in the U.S.
Senate.
Later in the program, we explore the greatest single child sex trafficking ring in U.S.
history prior to the Epstein scandal.
This is a scandal, the Franklin scandal, which reached into the highest levels of state government in Nebraska.
As well as Washington, D.C.
Nick Bryant, probably the finest investigative reporter in the country, and Alicia Owens, who was a victim of the Franklin scandal, who actually served time in jail because of her refusal to recant her accurate testimony about being victimized in the Franklin scandal.
Join us.
So, we'll be talking to them later in the program.
In the meantime, let me bring on the man of the hour, Troy Smith, the Editor-in-Chief at Slingshot.News.
Roger, as always, it's an honor to be here.
And yesterday, I mean, just adding on here, Roger, I feel like we just keep moving down the line here, exposing Paul Singer further and further for what he's doing, not only in the House, but in the Senate as well.
Now, as you stated there, Roger, we kind of uncovered that there is a plot going on in the Senate as well as the House of Representatives to influence the amount of Republicans that are going to be available heading into the 2024 election.
Can't wait to break that down with you here in the Stone Zone.
Yeah, it's really quite incredible.
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We really are on the cutting edge of this particular issue.
Yesterday, Troy really brought the receipts.
In other words, we don't just make claims.
We back it up with hard evidence that Paul Singer, the globalist vulture capitalist who financed the early campaign of Senator Marco Rubio, probably through the free beacon, the neocon
News outlet, where I have many friends by the way, actually were the original generators of the underlying information in the bogus Steele dossier.
When that got no traction in the Republican presidential contest in 2016, well, the boys at Fusion GPS recycled it and essentially resold the same information To Hillary Clinton's campaign.
Hillary Clinton's campaign masked the payments for that work, calling it legal research or legal services, when in fact, of course, they were paying for made-up fabricated dirt against Donald Trump.
That wouldn't be so serious other than the fact that Barack Obama, Joe Biden, the FBI and the CIA, as well as The Justice Department used what they knew was fabricated evidence to justify their illicit and illegal attempt to remove President Donald Trump in what is now known in the Russian collusion hoax.
So Singer is a bad guy.
We've established that.
Yesterday we showed you a long video which Tucker Carlson totally exposed him.
But Troy, tell us the latest and then I want to focus on Who are the next likely suspects?
In other words, our lead in the House is so precarious.
First, we have to win several upcoming elections.
Tell us about that.
Well, Roger, as for the runoff schedule we have this year, and I haven't seen many people talking about this.
There's been a lot of speculation about this.
We have May 21st for the California 20th Congressional District.
Now, that's the district that was left vacated by Kevin McCarthy.
On May 21st, there will be a special election in that district.
On June 25th, in Colorado's 4th District, there will be a special election to replace Ken Buck, who retired just last Friday.
And on June 11th, there will be a special election in Ohio 6 for Bill Johnson.
That's where we are at right now with the special elections, Roger, and it's important to point out that Mike Gallagher, who has also announced that he will be leaving Congress on April 19th, has avoided having a special election by prolonging his exit.
He decided that instead of leaving by the second Tuesday in April, he would leave On the 19th, meaning that the Republicans there won't have a chance to replace him and there won't be a special election completely hampering the Republican majority.
And as you stated, Roger, it's very, it's a very slim majority and every seat at this point is consequential.
You have to ask the question why Gallagher, who has taken a considerable amount of money from Paul Singer, would vacate his seat prior to the ability to have a special election.
It's just unbelievable.
Yeah, clearly there had to be some financial inducement in that.
Let me try to break down who I think the next suspects in the U.S.
House.
A hat tip to our friend Gary Frenchy for this over at, what does he call his place?
He's on YouTube.
I think it's Next News Network.
Next News Network.
A very good man, does great research.
Based on his research, He examined members of Congress, their ages, their pattern of political contributions from, yes, the nefarious Paul Singer, and their likelihood of throwing in the towel.
Here are his nominees.
Ken Calvert of the 42nd District of California.
First elected in 1992.
Born in 1953.
That makes him 71 years old.
Has taken $5,800 from Mr. Singer.
Joe Wilson of South Carolina's 2nd District.
He's 71 years old, has taken $5,800 from Mr. Singer.
Joe Wilson of South Carolina's 2nd District, first elected in 2001 in a special election, he's 77 years old.
We could find no connection to Singer, but his age gives us some suspicion.
I hope we're wrong about that, Mr. Wilson.
Mike Rogers, a Republican of Alabama, first elected in 2002.
He is 66 years old.
He is 66 years old.
Once again, Mike Rogers has taken $5,800 from Paul Singer.
Virginia Fox, who you may remember, announced her retirement, then recanted her retirement, decided to run again.
She will be 81.
She also took $5,800, the max, from a vulture capitalist, Paul Singer.
Now, all four members have served a substantial and considerable amount of time.
Calvert is the longest serving of the group, 32 years in Congress.
Foxx is the oldest at 81 years old, followed by Wilson at 71, Calvert at 70, probably at 77, Calvert at 71, and Rogers at 66.
When you cross-reference these members with where their financing is coming, These in my opinion are potentially, potentially the next candidates who will be pressured to throw in the towel.
Now, how does this work?
Well, for example, Mike Gallagher.
Got an extremely lucrative corporate offer that was far more attractive than being a member of Congress.
But it alludes me, he could have resigned in such a way that there would have been an immediate special election in which a Republican could have been counted on to fill that seat.
Instead, he has delayed his resignation so that the seat is vacated at a time that it will remain vacant through November.
That of course changes the calculus on how many votes it takes to hold the majority.
We are going to dig into the Senate side of this for a few minutes when we Come back from this commercial break, and then Nick Bryan, investigative journalist, author of The Franklin Scandal, one of the most important books regarding child sex trafficking in recent history, and Alicia Owens, who was actually a sex trafficking victim in that Horvitha case, will join us to talk about
What was the largest child sex trafficking scandal prior to Jeffrey Epstein?
The mainstream media and the establishment is going to great lengths to attempt to debunk this scandal.
We're going to break it down for you later in the Stone Zone.
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We are the first, I think, to uncover the nefarious plot really directed by Kevin McCarthy and financed by vulture capitalist Paul Singer to cede control of the House to the Democrats
Elect Hakeem Jeffries, the new speaker, and then very quickly pass legislation, actually a resolution, already drafted and introduced by the odious criminal Jamie Raskin.
If you do a little research on Jamie, he and his judge wife made millions in stock trades that they just, I don't know, inadvertently they just forgot to report.
You know, it's no big deal because he's a Democrat.
But, Troy, you have tracked similar activity in the U.S.
Senate pertaining to Lisa Murkowski.
Now, for those who aren't familiar with Lisa Murkowski, her father was a U.S.
Senator.
She doesn't live in Alaska.
She doesn't own a home in Alaska.
She actually very rarely goes to Alaska.
She lives in Washington, D.C.
She is the epitome of a swamp creature.
She's announced that she won't support Donald Trump for re-election if he's the nominee.
In fact, she would probably vote the party.
Hey Lisa, don't let the door smack you on the ass on the way out.
In no way are you a Republican.
If Alaska didn't have this Ferkakta ranked choice voting system, she wouldn't even be a U.S.
Senator.
But tell us about that, Troy.
Well, Roger, I saw a clip just a couple days ago.
We have the clip here.
We're going to run it.
Murkowski was confronted by a CNN reporter in the Capitol, and she was asked about becoming independent.
Now, people need to remember at home, Murkowski endorsed Nikki Haley, along with Susan Collins.
And those two, Collins and Murkowski, really lead the anti-Trump section of the Senate.
And it's important to remember that because these people are really, you know, along with the retirements in the House, Roger, we have many Republican senators who are putting the party at a disadvantage in the Senate by talking about possibly leaving.
So let's roll the clip of Murkowski talking to CNN at the Capitol about possibly being an independent.
Regret that our party is seemingly becoming a party of Donald Trump.
So no, the party has become the party of America first.
It's become the party of a sound and robust economy.
It's become the party of peace.
Elisa Murkowski loves these very expensive foreign incursions, costing us American blood and treasure, but where our Inherent national interests are not clear.
Who knows what it is about the Trump administration that Lisa Murkowski didn't like?
Perhaps it was the lowest gasoline prices in recent history, or the lowest rate of inflation in recent history, or perhaps it was the lowest levels of unemployment among all Americans—black Americans, white Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, young Americans, old Americans.
Urban Americans, rural Americans, or perhaps what she really objects to is the fact that Trump started no new foreign wars.
So there were no huge contracts for her defense contractor donors.
Who knows what it is that Lisa Murkowski, who does not live in Alaska, but represents it in the U.S.
Senate, didn't like about the Trump years.
Tell us very quickly before we go to our guests.
What is the Singer-Murkowski connection?
Well, Singer has been donated to Murkowski, Roger, since 2004, and it's documented all on Slingshot News, where people can go check that out.
And by the time this is airing, Roger, we're going to be putting out another article on Singer and his attacks on Republicans that were endorsed by President Trump in the 2024 Republican primaries.
Now, he did this through several different PACs that we're going to document on Slingshot News.
But I would encourage everybody to go to slingshot.news.
Check out that latest article because we're going to be running that today by the time you're seeing this. It's a fantastic dive into how Trump-endorsed candidates are finding themselves at the end of millions of dollars against them in advertising and things of that nature from conservative PACs, conservative PACs, that are really doing the bidding of the GOP establishment, conservative PACs, that are really doing the bidding of the GOP
The knives are all coming out, and whether it's the Senate with Murkowski, who's funded by Singer, Susan Collins, who's funded by Singer, now saying they may leave the GOP, or the mass retirement in the House of Representatives, there is a concerted effort by the GOP establishment funded by Paul Singer, directed by Kevin McCarthy, to make sure that Trump is not on the ballot in 2024.
It is the crime of the century that they are setting up here.
All right, Troy, I thank you very much for your report.
I know you have some bombshell reports in the works.
You've really developed this story.
Glad to see many people such as Steve Bannon reposting your work.
We've been proud to repost it ourselves with attribution at the Stone Zone.
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Thank you for joining us with that fantastic breakdown.
Always an honor, Roger.
Always an honor.
Prior to the Jeffrey Epstein scandal, the Franklin scandal was probably the biggest child sex trafficking scandal in American history.
And like the Epstein scandal, it touched the ruling elite, both in the state of Nebraska and allegedly in Washington, D.C.
Now, ironically, the investigative reporter who really did the first and most important work in terms of exposing Jeffrey Epstein, then writing for Gawker, the first man who uncovered Epstein's Little Black Book, which included the home and private phone numbers for many A-list celebrities and Politicians, athletes, and others.
It was also Nick Bryan, who's going to join us today, who first uncovered the FAA logs to give us some idea who the power elite were that Jeffrey Epstein was entertaining on his famous island.
But before he exposed the Epstein scandal, Nick Bryan exposed the Franklin scandal, which emanates out of the state of Nebraska.
It is a horrific tale that the establishment media and some in the government have gone to enormous lengths to try to debunk.
But we ask our listeners and viewers to decide for themselves.
Based not only on what they hear today, but I would urge you, and we'll show you how, to buy Nick's terrific book on the Franklin scandal.
Joining us now, Nick Bryant, investigative journalist and author.
By the way, I have a great new book on Watergate, The Truth About Watergate.
We interviewed him last week on that book.
That's not what we're here to do today.
But I recommend that to you also.
And Alicia Owens, who was a victim herself of the In the Franklin scandal and has a terrifying tale to tell us today.
Nick Bryant and Alicia, welcome to the Stone Zone.
Thank you, Roger.
And I like the fedora.
Thank you very much.
It's one of those days.
It's a bad hair day.
What can I say?
Either that or it's a homage to Matt Drudge, I'm not sure which.
So I appreciate your joining us.
Nick, I'm going to start with you to kind of set the table.
Reading from Wikipedia, which is a source of disinformation, I can tell you by looking at my own profile, virtually nothing they say in the profile is true.
I'm gonna let you respond to this.
The Franklin Child Prostitution Ring allegations began in June in 1988 in Omaha, Nebraska, when multiple Nebraska political and business figures were accused of involvement in a child sex trafficking ring.
The allegations attracted significant public and political interest until the late 1990s, when separate state and federal grand juries concluded that the allegations were unfounded in the ring.
was a carefully crafted hoax.
Now, you've written a very thick book that I think debunks all of that.
So I'm going to let you tell us, what was the Franklin scandal?
What happened here?
And then we'll talk to Alicia about her particularly horrific experience.
That Wikipedia entry on the Franklin scandal is just utter.
And a number of people have tried to change that page.
And it's been locked down by some very unsavory, perfidious, quote unquote, editors.
And I've even called Jimmy Wales to try to get him to intervene.
But Jimmy didn't seem to be too enthusiastic about fixing that page.
So that's been problematic because unfortunately a lot of people I think that Wikipedia is a fountainhead of truth.
And when you get into anything that's political and controversial, there's going to be a certain spin in Wikipedia.
That's just the way it is.
And that spin would be right up there like the New York Times.
Same type of a spin.
But the Franklin scandal is kind of a carbon copy of what we're seeing with Epstein.
Children were flown coast to coast by two pimps.
One was Lawrence E. King of Omaha and one was Craig Spence of Washington, D.C.
And it got outed.
A number of people in social services tried to out this network, but they were ignored by federal and state law enforcement.
And finally, Lawrence E. King, one of the pimps, running this pedophile network, he embezzled $40 million from the credit Franklin, the credit, the credit, the credit, the savings of loan, Franklin.
The Franklin Community Federal Credit Union.
Yes, I guess that neuron just didn't pop quite right.
But anyway, so he embezzled $40 million from that credit union, and ultimately a Senate subcommittee was formed to look into it, because that credit union hadn't been audited in 40 years.
And when the Senate subcommittee formed, The social services people that had complained to state and federal law enforcement told the senators, hey, King is running an interstate pedophile network.
So that's where it ultimately got outed.
But there were three grand juries.
It was a huge network.
Epstein's network was around for about 25 years.
And I think the Franklin network was around for 10 to 12 years.
And it destroyed many children.
It was a bigger, I believe it was a bigger network than Epstein's, but grand juries were used to cover it up.
And I don't know if your viewers, listeners are familiar with grand juries, but a special prosecutor is chosen to prosecute a grand jury.
And grand jurors are just people that have shown up for jury duty.
And the special prosecutor is responsible for showing them evidence and calling witnesses.
And special prosecutors have so much power over grand jurors.
A New York Supreme Court justice once said that special prosecutors could get grand jurors to indict a ham sandwich.
So there were two grand juries in Nebraska were very corrupt.
One was by Samuel Van Pelt and one was by Thomas Tolkien.
And they exonerated all the perpetrators, even though there was a tremendous amount of evidence to show that these kids had been Abused.
And instead of indicting the perpetrators, they indicted, these grand juries indicted the victims.
And one of the victims is with us, Alicia Owen.
She was indicted on eight counts of perjury from a state grand jury, and then the federal grand jury indicted her on eight counts of perjury.
And she was looking at 200 years in prison, and she refused to recant her abuse.
And it was important that—and her trial was unbelievably corrupt, and I documented it in the Franklin scandal.
It was important for her to be found guilty so those grand juries could be sanctified and say that not a single child was abused, because this network was operational in Washington, D.C., and there was a house in Washington, D.C.
that was owned by Craig Spence.
where the rich and the powerful would be compromised.
Spence was in CIS.
And when you get into the nuts and bolts of the Franklin scandal, as I said earlier, it's like a carbon copy of the Epstein scandal.
So the basic allegations centered on Lawrence E. King Jr., who was a rising force, a rising figure in the Republican Party.
Seemed to have close relationships with the George H.W.
Bush presidency.
He was certainly a rising figure in the Republican Party in Omaha.
Somehow he got a backdoor to Boys Town, probably the most famous orphanage in the country.
And at some point, the Nebraska State Senate began an investigation into the allegations.
That investigation, based on my memory and brief research, was headed by two state senators, Loren Schmidt and Ernie Chambers.
But ultimately, the private investigator, Gary Caradoni, hired by the Franklin Committee to investigate the allegations, died in a highly suspicious plane crash with His son.
This is an epic story.
I think you make the case in your book.
We're going to go to a quick commercial break here, but then I want to bring Alicia on to tell us what happened to her, what she saw, what she experienced, and her horrific experience in incarceration, but also her heroic heroism, her courage but also her heroic heroism, her courage in refusing to back off the truth.
This is The Roger Stone.
We're here with author Nick Bryant and Alicia Owens, and we will be right back.
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Welcome back, folks.
If you're just tuning in, I'm Roger Stone and this is the Stone Zone.
We are interviewing investigative reporter and author Nick Bryan.
With him he has Alicia Owen, who was one of the victims in the Franklin scandal.
Let me just pick up where we left off.
Nick, do you suspect foul play in the death of Gary Caradoni, who was charged by the State Senate in investigating the Franklin scandal?
I definitely do.
do.
He flew to Chicago and he acquired pictures of the pedophile parties.
I mean, I've got in the Franklin scandal, I've got five corroborations on that.
And he was going to if if he made it back to Nebraska, he was going to break this wide open.
And there was no way that that rogue element of intelligence that does this type of stuff was going to let him break it up.
Because if the dominoes had started to fall in Nebraska, they would have fallen all the way to Washington, D.C.
And there was just no way that that that was going to happen.
As soon as Gary Caridore got those pictures, he was a marked man.
And I also want to thank you for helping me to pronounce credit union.
Just one of those days.
It's perfectly all right.
Who are the who are some of the elites who who allegedly received children for abuse?
Well, when you get into that, it's difficult because the kids that were involved really didn't know who was molesting them.
And George Herbert Walker Bush, his name came up once.
By Ulysse Washington, she said that he gleaned a boy from a pedophile party in Chicago.
But that's the only source I have on him.
But I think that there are other—there's obviously a lot of powerful people in Washington, D.C.
The amount of power that was deployed to cover up the Franklin Network, I mean, it really shows that it went to the upper reaches of power.
And the network was covered up—it's interesting.
Richard Thornburg was the attorney general.
At that point, and he began the cover-up, but William Barr ultimately put the finishing touches on the cover-up, and William Barr was the same Attorney General that covered up the Epstein scandal.
Very good point.
Alright, Alicia, you've been sitting there patiently, and we appreciate it.
So, now you're up.
Tell us about your experience, and if you can, tell us from the beginning what happened to you.
Sure, I would, one of the things that I would like to make clear, my initial, what actually brought me to the Nebraska State Legislative Committee, that story happens to every victim of trafficking.
So that part is not necessarily unique or special in any way.
Where my story really becomes unique and in my opinion, different.
And what people really need to know is the actions taken after I came forward.
It's highly unusual.
Actually, I think my sentence for perjury is probably, I think, the longest sentence in the history of the United States.
And I also had the, I believe, the longest criminal trial in the history of Nebraska.
Because, I mean, we fought.
You know, they called it a carefully crafted hoax, but they never, they never said who crafted it.
And I don't know where they think we got names from.
The names that we did have, you know, picked them out of the phone book.
I don't know.
And the evidence was there.
And when Nick was talking about grand juries and one of the reasons why grand juries are used as a tool to suppress victims is The prosecutor has complete latitude.
They can show whatever evidence they want to show.
And it is not a balanced, it is strictly up to the prosecutor to present whatever they want to present.
And one of the things that we were able to show is they, Gary, and his name is Gary Caridori, Um, Gary had done, and you can find them on YouTube.
Um, he had made videotapes of all of the various witnesses and their statements.
And, uh, one of the things that we were able to prove is that the, for purposes of the grand jury, They edited all of those videotapes to take out any commonalities.
So if a victim said, this happened and it was here and it was during this time, they cut those things out.
So they only included, so the grand juries only saw videotapes of differing stories.
And we were able to prove that here's the original videotape and here's what the grand jury saw.
So it was not just a happenstance that these things happened.
I mean, it was a concerted effort on the part of law enforcement and the judiciary to cover these things up.
And once all the victims came forward, including myself, You wouldn't believe the media just pounded us.
I mean, it was unreal.
And I'm sure that, Roger, you understand how the barrage of character assassination, be it truth, lies, or whatever, they are going to twist and turn it to say whatever they want to execute their means.
And so I mean, from the get go, and I kind of knew that that was going to happen.
The media basically called us liars.
Well, they didn't basically, they did call us liars.
The judiciary, we could have said the sky was blue, and they would have said you're lying.
And from there, And what they were able to do in secret because in a grand jury, they're not supposed to, um, uh, it's supposed to be sealed.
And, uh, my grand jury actually did a, uh, a grand jury report that read like a bad melodrama novel.
And they were actually, uh, the grand jury was actually sued by, uh, Senator Chambers.
Um, and, uh, they had to retract or seal it because it was so glaringly, it was just evil.
Um, and the pressure that was put on all of the victims.
I mean, it wasn't just Gary Caridori that died.
There's, there's actually, I believe 19 people that were somehow either related or involved that had mysterious deaths.
So it's not just the investigator that got blown up 13 minutes after he took off and the FAA says, Oh, he must've fallen asleep, which I don't understand how you'd fall asleep 13 minutes after you're flying a plane.
Um, and also the location where he blew up is, is very interesting.
Uh, But it's also what happened afterwards.
When you, I was 21 years old and it really was just, my legal team was Henry Rosenthal and my mom.
And we put on quite a fight.
I'm sure you understand that.
But the, and we had things like, and Roger, I followed, I followed your case and I prayed a lot for you because I know that you had experiences with the FBI and raids and no-knock search warrants and things like that.
Well, I had my own experience.
I was in prison.
I did a little over two years in solitary confinement.
The entire time, I mean, they would, the FBI would show up and say, okay, we can't.
And it's like, no, I'm not going to.
And the truth is the truth.
And you know, they had pretty much tried everything to, to get me to, um, say that I was a liar.
And I, when I decided to take the stand, I wasn't going to back down.
But there was a point, um, where you'd think if you're in solitary confinement That you're not going to have a no-knock search warrant and the FBI show up and toss your cell.
And when I say no-knock search warrant in a prison, I mean they didn't let even the prison know.
They showed up at the gates of the prison with their warrant and barged their way in.
And I'll tell you, I know that the warden was quite upset.
That I think is probably unprecedented.
It's also relatively absurd.
They don't let you bring anything to prison.
They don't let you keep anything in prison.
So what could they possibly find in your cell?
You got a four and a half year sentence for perjury.
I think that's probably unheard of.
You served two years in solitary confinement.
I've had hardened gangsters on the show who tell me that a week in solitary confinement can break a man.
When we come back, we're going to get into some of the names, because I think the media handling of this and the establishment handling of this entire affair It's tied very much to those who were accused.
We're here with Nick Bryant, investigative journalist, and Alicia Owen, who was a victim and a woman of enormous courage and fortitude.
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We're still here with investigative journalist and author Nick Bryant and Alicia Owen, who was one of the very courageous victims in the Franklin sex trafficking ring scandal.
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Let's go back to you, Alicia.
I don't want to put you on the spot, but You were very young.
Can you tell us, did you recognize any of the men that you were trafficked to, who abused you?
Not on a national level.
And that's one of the things about Franklin, is Franklin, as opposed to Epstein, Epstein was strictly pretty much girls that we know of.
And with Franklin, Franklin was both boys and girls.
And my abusers were not necessarily on a national scale, but the people that I was accused of lying about were high up in law enforcement in Nebraska.
Um, a, uh, well-known media people and, um, and in Omaha, Nebraska, you know, TV personalities and things like that.
So I'm not sure that, um, any of your viewers would recognize any of those names.
Um, but there were other victims that, that did say people like Nick, um, Nick mentioned Ulysses and there were also victims such as Paul Benassi who cited other people.
But my direct experience was maybe not nationally known people.
And one of the reasons why it was so important that I be convicted was, as we know, people that have been through These traumatic experiences a lot of times will develop either psychological problems or addictions and things like that.
But I, I think that I was the one that was able to tell my story clearly.
And also I think Roger, I was actually sentenced to 9 to 15 years in prison, and so it was not just four and a half years.
I mean, I did four and a half years before I got parole, but I was actually sentenced to 9 to 15, and so I think that that sentence with, you know, and I still bear the burden of being a convicted felon, you know, they still I've tried many appeals.
I've tried for pardons and they still consider me a liar.
And even after Epstein, it's very interesting because even after Epstein, people all of a sudden realized, well, hey, you know, because when, when I was going through what I went through, people would say, oh, well, that person would never ever do that.
They have a career.
They are, Wealthy, they could get whatever they want, and they would never jeopardize that.
So I am, I'm not really, um, in a position to be able to, um, you know, I guess you know, I guess what I could say is I, I gave my testimony, I stand by my testimony and it's all, all there you
You can read the charges, read the names, and that's, in my opinion, people that know the truth, they know the truth.
I think it's more important that we focus on how our government is covering this up.
You know, naming names from the past right now is not going to right any wrongs.
I think we need to focus on what our government is doing.
I understand what you're saying.
Look, no one has experienced the one-sided and unfair nature of the grand jury system as I have.
My lawyers gave the grand jury, gave the prosecutors more than sufficient evidence to demonstrate that my source regarding the WikiLeaks disclosures was indeed a man in New York, Randy Credico, that he indeed did tell me in writing that his information came from a lawyer that he indeed did tell me in writing that his information came from a lawyer By the way, that information was extraordinarily general.
Assange has the goods on Hillary and he's going to drop them in October.
Assange said that himself in multiple interviews.
It's not like it was a secret, but they charged me with lying to cover that up.
Now, I want to be very clear.
In my trial, they never produced any evidence of Russian collusion.
They never produced any evidence of actual collaboration with WikiLeaks.
I had no motive to lie, so I've been where you are, and the grand jury system is broken.
They don't show exculpatory information to a grand jury.
You're not allowed to make a presentation.
You're not allowed to rebut what is said to you.
So you've been through the meat grinder.
In the time we have left, let's talk about Epstein justice.
This is a great organization in which you and Nick are involved to get justice for the Epstein victims.
Nick, tell us about that and where people can go to contribute.
I was so disgusted writing the Franklin scandal because in that situation, the government, when you cover up a crime, you're aiding and abetting that crime.
With the Franklin scandal, the government aided and abetted child trafficking.
And now, with the Epstein scandal, the government is aiding and abetting child trafficking.
And there's a lot of things that the government should do, and there's a lot of things that the government shouldn't do.
And the government definitely shouldn't aid and abet child trafficking.
We have to fix that.
And Epstein Justice, you can go to our website, epsteinjustice.com, We're an organization that's dedicated.
We want a commission, and we want two things from that commission.
We want the alleged perpetrators to be prosecuted, and we want the government to tell us why it is covering up child trafficking.
Those are the two simple things that we want.
Now, granted, it's going to take a lot of work to get those two things, but we are confident that we will get there.
And I've just seen too many kids trafficked with impunity.
And it really bothers me.
And at this point, Americans really have to say no more.
Our government cannot participate anymore.
And I also believe that if you burrow into Epstein deep enough, you will come across a cesspool that is governing us.
13% or 70% of Americans Only 70% of Americans think that the Congress is doing a good job.
So, 83% of Americans don't think that the Congress is working in their best interests.
And I believe that a number of them are compromised.
And there was a House representative, Tim Burchette, he came out just in December and said, my colleagues are being compromised.
So, I was stunned that he made that disclosure because I've been saying it for years.
So, with EpsteinJustice.com, we want to make sure that kids are no longer trafficked with impunity and that the government no longer covers up child trafficking.
Alicia, we have about a minute.
Do you want to add your two cents on Epstein Justice?
I am really excited about Epstein Justice.
It gives us an opportunity to stop Want the cover-up that that is going on also to let your audience know we are Putting out a newsletter It should be out I think within the week where we're giving updates because this cover-up is still going on I mean people don't realize do you realize that?
Maxwell the only person that was convicted out of the Epstein.
She's already in an honor dorm and In the, in the prison system, you know, she's, I mean, she's trying to get out of prison and have everything just covered up and says that Epstein's immunity agreement should cover her and she should have never been charged for child trafficking.
So this is still going on and it needs to stop.
This is something that the American people should be able to say, no more, we're not going to allow it.
All right, we have to end it there, unfortunately, but I want to thank Nick Bryant.
Sorry to cut you off there, Alicia, but we're out of time.
Please go to EpsteinJustice.com.
EpsteinJustice.com.
They're doing important work to get justice for the Epstein victims.
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Thank you Nick Bryant and Alicia Owen for joining us today.
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