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March 28, 2023 - The StoneZONE - Roger Stone
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Did Ron Desantis Sign a Law Allowing Forced Vaccinations? Frankie Stockes of National File Explains
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And now, Lindell TV brings you The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon, and pundit, Roger Stone.
Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.
He is a New York Times best-selling author, and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.
As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.
Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.
And now, here's your host, Roger Stone!
And welcome, I'm Roger Stone, and you Are about to enter the Stone Zone.
In the previous program, The Sentinel Report, my colleague Alex Newman had a epic interview with former Congressman Ron Paul.
I really urge you to check it out by going to the archives or following his show.
Actually, the last Republican I voted for in a presidential primary was Ron Paul.
Uh, I changed my registration to the Libertarian Party and then could not change back in time to vote for Donald Trump in 2016.
Uh, and, uh, therefore the last Republican I voted for in a presidential primary was Congressman Ron Paul in the Florida primary.
I'm extraordinarily proud of that.
This morning I released a new substack entitled The Nosedive of Ron DeSantis in which I chronicle a series of errors that Governor DeSantis has made in recent days.
After maintaining extraordinary political discipline for months and completely ignoring the taunts And attacks by former President Donald Trump, rightfully upset about the treachery.
There's my Substack address.
If you want to go grab this piece, you can also subscribe.
Having the discipline to ignore the attacks of President Trump, who is rightfully upset about the lack of gratitude and loyalty of Governor Ron DeSantis, a man who was ascended to the governor's seat only through the support and tweeted a man who was ascended to the governor's seat only through the support and tweeted endorsement of Donald Trump, Ron DeSantis made an epic mistake and decided to break Ron DeSantis made an epic mistake and decided to break his silence.
In his initial comments in the wake of news that Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg was close to indicting Donald Trump on a politically motivated charge, DeSantis first washed his hands of it, saying that he was not getting involved, attacked the prosecutor saying that he was not getting involved, attacked the prosecutor as being funded by George Soros, used it to talk about himself because he had fired a Soros funded prosecutor in Florida, but then worst of all, recycled the false charges against
recycled the I.e.
that he had paid hush money to a porno actress in return for her silence.
This was followed by an effort in which the governor then doubled down in an interview with New York Post's Piers Morgan in which he attacked Donald Trump's chaotic leadership style and his moral character.
That leadership style got us the greatest economic revival in American history, rebuilt our military, sent scores of conservative judges to the federal bench, rebuilt respect for America around the world, got us energy independence, and virtually sealed our borders as illegal border crossings had trickled to a few under Donald Trump.
But the most egregious part of DeSantis' act is an effort to rewrite his history regarding the handling of the COVID-19 pandemic in order to create a wedge issue.
One of the things that Governor DeSantis said was that had he been president rather than Donald Trump, he would have fired Dr. Fauci.
Today on this program, We're going to highlight various aspects of Governor DeSantis's actual record on the handling of the COVID-19 vaccination.
Is our guest with us?
Are we prepared to move forward?
Excellent, thank you.
I just want to check with the producer there.
Joining us now to talk about that very subject is Frankie Stokes of The National File.
Frankie, welcome to The Stone Zone.
Hey Roger, thank you for having me.
It's an honor to be here.
Very good.
So you have a story which is a very controversial story, but a well-sourced story.
Let me just read the opening of this.
The headline is, Ron DeSantis signed COVID law allowing forced injections by any means necessary.
And you state, the COVID reality is far different from the COVID narrative when it comes to Florida Governor Ron DeSantis.
Florida Governor Ron DeSantis signed COVID legislation in 2021, giving state health authorities the power to forcibly quarantine and inject anyone who state health authorities deem to be a risk to public safety using, quote, any means necessary.
Tell us about this.
So yeah, Roger, Governor DeSantis signed SB 2006 into law.
This was presented to the people of Florida, to the people of America, really.
As a massive ban on vaccine passports, but buried in this bill was the reaffirmation of a Jeb Bush-era guidance, legal guideline, that allows the state health authorities, as they're called, to basically imprison anyone they want to in the event of a pandemic and to start injecting American citizens with experimental jabs, like we saw during COVID.
The experimental jab rollout.
So that was buried in this law.
I've taken a lot of heat for this story on Twitter, on social media, but I stand by it and National File stands by it.
Because when Governor DeSantis signed this law, he was reaffirming his government's position, his state's position, that the state health authorities can come and take you away if you will not submit to a jab when they want you to.
It was later repealed.
But that was only after massive public outcry and that was an obvious measure of legislative damage control and an attempt to rewrite history on the COVID issue.
You make an excellent point.
Jean-Marie Nassar is going to join us at 5.30.
I also invited Chris Nelson of FreeFlorida.me to join us today so that we might have a vigorous debate about this issue.
Unfortunately, he was unavailable, so we have extended an invitation to him to join us tomorrow.
What has been the on-line reaction?
I think you make a very important point, which is to say that there was in the 2021 session a repeal of sections of this law, but not all of it was repealed.
So, even the part of a law that remains seems to me to continue to give the state draconian power to quarantine, examine, and treat those they want contrary to their will.
Do you have the same reading?
I absolutely do, and the big question here I think is what constitutes a treatment, especially for something like COVID-19?
Where we've seen some individuals claim that the so-called vaccine is in and of itself a treatment.
So what really constitutes a treatment here?
That's a serious question that needs to be answered.
When they supposedly repealed the language that allows them to vaccinate individuals by any means necessary.
But you're right.
Treatment, quarantine, that all still stands.
So in effect, Governor DeSantis is still to this day standing by his government's authority to intern American citizens in the name of a pandemic or in the name of COVID or in the name of whatever health crisis is vogue at the moment on the global scene and according to the WHO and organizations of that sort.
So this is incredibly alarming.
And since the article came out, it's been complete just lambasting over and over again from the sort of pro-DeSantis Twitter troll army that's out there.
And it's honestly, it's a total rejection of reality.
Governor DeSantis signed this law.
He reaffirmed his government's position.
He affirmed his own position on forcibly vaccinating American citizens.
The language that's used is by any means necessary.
They could have taken this out of the law at that time.
They didn't.
He let it stand for the duration of the 2021 year.
You know, he let it stand through the hottest part of restrictions, Through the hottest part of crackdowns on American civil liberties, this stood on the books in Florida, and it was only repealed as a damage control measure when there was public outcry about it, when there was some pressure saying, hey, what's up with this?
You know, he even mentions it when he signs the repeal of just only the language that allows the forced vaccinations.
Treatment, quarantine, all of that stuff is still in there, and it's a massive violation of civil liberties.
But DeSantis himself said, When he repealed the single word of vaccinate, he said, oh, we were hearing from people, you know, what's up with this?
What's up with this?
Why is that in there?
So it's very obvious.
I mean, he says it himself.
It was a damage control measure.
And it was kind of a, hey, you're busted.
I think the big question is, does Governor DeSantis not read the legislation that he signs?
Or does Governor DeSantis truly believe that the government should go around forcibly injecting American citizens with whatever they please?
I was particularly offended by the claim by the governor that he would have fired Dr. Fauci in light of the governor's decision to appoint a man named David Kerner, the former liberal Democratic mayor of Palm Beach, to his cabinet after the the former liberal Democratic mayor of Palm Beach, to his cabinet
The reason for this is that Kerner is a veritable vax Nazi who, as Palm Beach County mayor, put together something called the COVID-19 Compliance Task Force, which was really a jackbooted Gestapo-type operation which was really a jackbooted Gestapo-type operation to intimidate business owners, merchants, individual citizens, literally destroying businesses.
In many cases, contacting employers of those who refuse to wear masks or refuse to be vaccinated, costing them their jobs.
And Mr. Kerner insisted at the time that all of his activities were approved by the governor, reviewed by the governor, and lo and behold, David Kerner, liberal Democrat, endorses Ron DeSantis for governor only weeks before the general election, and then days after the election, he is rewarded with an appointment to the governor's cabinet.
So, not only is the claim that he would fire Fauci fraudulent, but why didn't the governor fire his own health policy advisors who talked him into the lockdowns, the mask mandates, and so on?
How do you react to his claim that he would have fired Fauci?
I don't believe it at all, and I think that hindsight, especially on the campaign trail, is 2020 and beyond for many of these guys.
He's driving a wedge issue, as you mentioned in the intro here.
Governor DeSantis, he claims that he would have fired Fauci, but his own state record shows that he wouldn't have.
I think that President Trump should come out and say, Fauci should have been fired.
Fauci is a bad guy.
Fauci is a career government doctor who has, for years and years and years, been opposed by civil liberties activists.
Back in the 1980s, he was opposed by HIV-AIDS activists.
for basically blocking their treatments.
That's something else that we had up on national file.
And it's all alarming.
But DeSantis can make any claim that he wants.
It's easy to do so after the fact.
But the historical record shows that when push came to shove, he was right there with the rest of the neocons supporting these lockdowns, supporting it all, just like he did the Ukraine war back a decade ago.
He's also tried to rewrite his history when it came to both the mask mandates and, of course, the lockdowns.
In the question of mask mandates, If you read the small print, his executive order in which he essentially orders the school districts in Florida to stop masking the pupils gives autonomy to the three southern counties.
Seven counties, the seven largest counties in Florida, defy the governor, continue to mask children, 3.6 million children, after the governor's made-for-publicity decree.
And the governor takes no action against those school boards.
We know because of the legal action in which he fired Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel, and Israel challenged that in the courts, that the courts have already ruled that the governor has the unilateral authority to fire anyone in a constitutional office that he wishes, who is not upholding state policy.
Also example of this would be the tax collector in Palm Beach County, a woman, Who fired members of her staff because of their refusal to be vaccinated.
Again, the governor took no action against this public official.
And then there's the question of the actual lockdown of the beaches and restaurants in Florida.
You touched on this in your article.
Can you speak to that?
Absolutely.
Governor DeSantis, he did.
He joined with the Democrats.
He joined with all the rest of the GOP-ers who bought into this pandemic hoax, these hoax attacks on our civil liberties.
He bought into all of this.
He shut down the beaches for the Fourth of July.
He shut down schools in April of 2020, around the same time that governors like Ralph Northam were shutting down schools in their states.
So all of this in in the present time is historical revisionism, and it's all timed conveniently for DeSantis to launch a 2024 run.
But the true record shows that he did join with all of these tyrants in shutting down people's businesses, shutting down public facilities, shutting down schools, keeping kids locked at home.
And there are many people out there, many children, many families, many business owners who have yet to recover.
And I mean, that's not a situation unique to Florida.
That's the entire United States.
But For Governor DeSantis to be out now at present day saying, you know, I am a COVID warrior and the buck on COVID stops with me.
None of it's true.
It's really not.
None of it's true.
And it appears that he just has an army of social media trolls who will go out and try to discredit anyone who speaks up about this.
But you know what?
It's not something that we can be quiet about.
This was an assault on civil liberties, unprecedented in American history, and we can't let it stand and we can't let history be rewritten over it for political expedience.
Now in the interests of total accuracy, because we too will be criticized, we acknowledge here and now that in November 2021, A special session of the legislature had the vaccination part of the law removed, but lawmakers refused to remove the quote examination, testing and treatment language that is still extraordinarily troubling.
It is.
We're going to get into this in the second section of the show.
Treatment still remains in the law as it stands today and it still doesn't eliminate the COVID vaccination because the COVID vaccination does not prevent transmission or prevent one from catching the virus.
Instead the efficacy is only to decrease severe disease so the law as it's currently written can still arguably be used for forced treatment.
Nobody should be forced To take the COVID-19 vaccination.
The hypocrisy of this entire thing is quite extraordinary, but what I'm finding is that more and more Republicans, more and more Trump supporters, who love Donald Trump and like Ron DeSantis, largely because of his America First rhetoric, are catching on to the fact that he is in fact the candidate of Jeb Bush The candidate of Paul Ryan.
The candidate of Karl Rove.
Karl Rove actually slips on Fox the other day and in doing an analysis of DeSantis's efforts refers to it as quote our campaign.
I think that pretty much says it all.
It is amazing if you look at the polling to the extent that the governor and his wife Do not understand that the DeSantis base is merely a microcosm of the Trump base.
The Trump base extends well beyond the Republican Party.
It is deeper, wider, and far more intense than the base of support for Governor DeSantis.
Now, if you live in Florida and you love Donald Trump, you like Ron DeSantis.
DeSantis has grabbed the rhetoric, he's grabbed the trappings, but his backers make many Republicans I know extraordinarily nervous.
Thoughts on that?
They absolutely do.
You know, Governor DeSantis, to be cohorting with guys like Jeb Bush, guys like Karl Rove, guys like Paul Ryan, You know, just a few months ago, Paul Ryan was meeting with GOP megadonors floating Glenn Youngkin for 2024.
It seems that his star sort of crashed and burned way too early.
So now he's just pivoted his efforts over to DeSantis.
This is 100 percent an establishment ploy to come out and discredit President Trump and discredit the America First movement and its supporters by reimagining what's actually taken place with COVID and on other issues as well.
Ron DeSantis would not be governor were it not for President Trump's endorsement.
That is a fact.
That is backed up in the polling, backed up in the actual voting day polls that took place.
He would not be governor if it were not for President Trump's endorsement.
So what a better guy to come in.
Who else could they bring in with this effect and say, hey, this guy is supposed to be, you know, Trump's mini-me.
This is Trump without the mean tweets.
And they then sell it to a large amount of people that this is somehow the next level of the America First movement.
When in reality, it's the same guys that have been backing failed GOP candidates for decades have now thrown their money You made reference to this at the beginning, and the National File has been particularly good on its reporting in this area, but the governor's also attempted to reinvent his history regarding the current conflict in Ukraine.
When he was in the House, he was a neocon congressman.
Who supported the coup by the Obama administration to overturn a democratically elected government in Ukraine.
Then more recently he tried to manipulate his rhetoric to sound more like President Trump, saying that Russia did not pose the single greatest threat to the United States, that he actually called the Uh, the war in Ukraine, a territorial dispute.
So first he flipped.
Then when his billionaire globalist backers went insane over this new positioning, he hastily put out a statement saying that Putin was a war criminal, which of course is rhetoric to get his major donors off of his back.
Do you think this has contributed to the essentially the free fall of Ron DeSantis in the polls?
I absolutely think it has.
I think that at first DeSantis was kind of put out there by a lot of hacks in the media and he was all over social media being sort of promoted in a positive light.
I think that once people start peeling back the layers, start looking at his history, they realize, you know, this isn't really an America First campaign.
This isn't really an America First candidate.
There's a lot of baggage here politically.
There's a lot of bad votes, support for bad initiatives.
You know, eight, nine years ago, DeSantis was blasting the Obama administration for not doing enough in Ukraine after the Obama administration had worked with George Soros to overthrow the democratically elected government of that nation.
So this guy has now kind of sort of tried to change his stripes.
But then just the other day, After he upsets his donors, he goes on TV parroting John McCain's talking points saying that Russia is nothing more than a gas station.
So, you know, which one is it?
He's flip-flopping in real time.
He's flip-flopping over the past eight, nine years on this Ukraine issue.
And I think that it is.
I think it's made him take a massive hit because I believe that the voters, especially as we're getting closer to 2024, They're starting to really plug in.
They're starting to really pay attention and say, hey, look, this Trump DeSantis thing that's going on.
I've been hearing about this for a year.
And let me peel back the layers and see what's really happening.
And I think when they look at Ron DeSantis, they're not liking what they're seeing.
Well, people should also recognize his actual record.
I mean, Florida is a notoriously corrupt state historically, but even by Florida standards, Ron DeSantis is in a whole new league.
Florida Power and Light and other utilities give his campaign coffers in the state Republican Party as much as $9 million.
And in return, they get the greatest single rate increase in Florida history.
We take a giant 20% increase in our electric bills.
Also the energy industry is allowed to no longer report those who they are cutting off.
And then of course there's the insurance industry.
DeSantis takes millions of dollars from insurance carriers who in turn are now systematically screwing policyholders whose homes were either badly damaged or destroyed in Hurricane Ian.
Literally paying policyholders pennies on the dollar and in many cases completely rewriting their claims which they either reject or they attempt to settle for pennies.
Silence from the regulators appointed by Governor Ron DeSantis.
Or then there's the gambling interests.
The Seminole tribe giving over two and a half million dollars to Governor DeSantis in return for a monopoly on sports books.
ultimately knocked down by the state Supreme Court.
But the Seminoles already have a gambling monopoly through their compact signed by Governor Ron DeSantis.
So if money determined who the Republican nominee for president would be, well then, former Texas governor and Secretary of the Treasury, John Connolly, would have beaten the stuffing out of Ronald Reagan.
But of course that didn't happen and it takes a lot more than money.
It takes a cohesive narrative and a purpose.
I would argue Donald Trump has that.
I would argue that Ron DeSantis does not.
Okay, we're just about out of time.
Frankie Stokes from the National File.
I want to thank you for joining us on the Stone Zone.
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Where can people go to do that, Frankie, just to make this easy for them?
I would ask everyone to go to nationalfile.com.
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All right, many thanks for joining us here in the Stone Zone.
Thank you, thank you.
It was an honor to be here.
All right, a special shout out to publisher Noel Frisch for making Frankie Stokes available for this incisive conversation.
If you are a steamed up supporter of Governor Ron DeSantis, we're going to continue this discussion.
Jean Marie Nassar, who is a nurse, A mother and a Palm Beach activist is going to join us with some clarification regarding the Senate Bill 2006, which was indeed assigned into law by Governor Ron DeSantis and did include the state's authority to vaccinate a state resident against their will.
Yes, yes, this was subsequently amended.
We're going to address that in a moment.
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Now joining us is Jean-Marie Nasser, who is a nurse, a mother, a Floridian, a Palm Beach activist, and one of the most knowledgeable people I know on this entire subject of Ron DeSantis' actual record when it comes to COVID-19.
Jean-Marie joins us now.
Hi, Roger.
Thanks for having me.
Thank you.
You made it.
Thank goodness.
I was very honored in the substack that I published this morning to include two extensive Twitter threads that you have worked very hard on because, in my opinion, nobody is more knowledgeable or more accurate when it comes to Governor Ron DeSantis's actual record on the issue of the COVID-19 pandemic and his handling of it.
So, let's take this from the top.
As our previous guest Frankie Stokes said accurately, the governor did sign legislation which gave the state the authority to forcibly vaccinate someone against their will.
This would later be amended and taken out of the law.
We've got a quick clip of your testimony to the State Senate on this subject.
Can we roll that?
Appreciate taking out the term force vaccinated.
I'm also asking you to take out that the Surgeon General has powers to force examine, test, or treat any individual.
Having worked in a hospital as a nurse, Forcing an examination, forcing a test, forcing treatment are all invasive measures.
If any medical provider is to force an unwanted treatment, an unwanted test, an unwanted examination, that is abuse, that is assault, and that is battery.
And no one should have the power to do that.
And going back to Senator Thurston's comment, if this is a public health emergency and somebody is contagious, you already have it in here that the individual can be subject to quarantine or isolation by the Surgeon General.
That should be enough to stop the spread or the threat to anyone else.
But no one No free person should be ordered to be examined, tested, or treated against their will.
That is abuse, that is assault, and that is battery.
Where I worked, if you weren't voluntarily admitted to the hospital, even psych patients, you had to get a court order to be involuntarily admitted.
So for a state health officer to Examine test or treat when somebody does not want that that's assault and that's battery and I beg of you to make this amendment Because the public the public health aspect of this where an individual is contagious The public can still be protected if that individual is quarantined or isolated without the invasion of unwanted Invasive procedures testing or examination which is assault and battery.
Thank you.
Thank you very much appreciate Testimony, so they did amend the law.
Tell us what they did and what they did not do.
So this was a special session which lasted about four days with many other bills, including removing the masking of children in public schools and other COVID measures.
So it was a very quick session.
And when I was there, I got the impression because after that speech or during that speech, I saw many senators agreeing with me nodding their heads that these other elements that still remain in Florida law, such as forced testing, forced treatment and forced examination, they were agreeing that it should be removed by showing of the nodding of the head.
But it was very obvious that they were not amending any bills during this special session in November 2021.
And Um, you know, it was a short session, and maybe they wanted to pass, but they wanted to pass without any further debate or hiccup, you know, since the Senate side and the House bills have to match in the end, and you had four days to do that.
You know, the legislators did not amend anything.
But what is disappointing, and you know, what your previous speaker touched upon, Frankie, Is that this still was not a priority, a legislative priority of Governor DeSantis to remove these elements this session?
And that is the big debate, because before that session where I was speaking at in November 2021, where forced vaccination was removed, prior to that was the SB 2006 in regular session, where it was in that bill.
And now There are people online trying to tell you DeSantis didn't sign it into law.
He didn't originally sign it into law when it first was in law in, I think, 2001 or 2002.
I think 20 2001 or 2002, but it was again brought up in SB 2006 and there were amendments to that section of law where there describes a public health emergency.
There was like a one word cross out to change to another word.
So the legislators did amend that same section that forced vaccination was under, but did not remove the forced vaccination originally in regular session.
So for people to say, You know, he didn't sign into law.
Well, like Frankie said, he reaffirmed it into law.
It wasn't originally, you know, a new law under DeSantis, but he reaffirmed it into law.
And people, you know, on his defense will say, well, what was he going to do?
Was he going to veto all the other good protections in there, like the vaccine passport protection?
You know, maybe not.
Maybe that's not logistical.
But I think people know, and you know, I know people who know people in the legislature very closely.
We know DeSantis runs the whip.
We know he puts out his priorities.
You're going to see it this session.
He wants to be president.
We know that there are conversations happening.
You do this, I'll make this happen.
So we know that he runs the show.
We know we have a Republican majority.
Why was You know, this is not a priority of him to remove forced examination, forced treatment, and forced testing.
Because we know, you know, people say this law was never used.
Yes, it was used by DeSantis and the Florida Department of Health at the beginning of this public health emergency.
Governor DeSantis used this law to order the Surgeon General to screen Anybody and do anything necessary for anyone coming into Florida.
So he did use this and it's not even an argument if anybody used or not use it.
The point is, it remains in law.
We saw, you know, many people didn't agree with these COVID tests.
They do take RNA and DNA from your nose.
What are they doing with that afterward?
There may be chemicals that affect people.
Should people be forced to take that test when These tests were under emergency use authorization only by the FDA.
They're not approved.
They're only under emergency use authorization, meaning people have the right to refuse them.
But now we have a Florida law that still says people can be ordered to force tests, be forced examined, and be forced treated.
And let's be honest here.
These COVID vaccinations, and I said this too to the Senate at that special session, The manufacturers never, now I'm excluding Fauci, I'm talking about the vaccine manufacturers and their actual inserts, never claimed that they prevented against the infection, the SARS-CoV-2 virus.
They only claimed that the advocacy was based on you wouldn't be hospitalized or you wouldn't develop severe COVID-19.
That's essentially a treatment.
Because you're not preventing a virus or detaching a virus with these COVID-19 vaccines.
You're preventing furthering of the disease or severe disease is what they say, allegedly.
So that is essentially a treatment and that is still in law.
So could the law that's on the books, you remove forced vaccination.
Great.
I'm so glad, but that is not enough.
And I'm sorry, but this is what we continue to see here.
We continue to see Little blips of hope.
If you're a medical freedom person or, you know, you want less intrusive government, we see these little signs of hope and these big shows and these big press conferences.
But when you read the fine print, we're not really completely protected or have all these freedom laws because there's loopholes.
And unfortunately, people are going to find that out the hard way, unfortunately.
So, you also, in one of the extraordinary threads that I included in my substack piece on the current nosedive of Governor Ron DeSantis in the polls, you were contemptuous, as I was, about his claim that he would have
He fired Dr. Fauci in view of the role of his own health advisors in the state of Florida and this myth that he ended the lockdowns or ended the mask mandates earlier than he did.
Can you speak to that?
Yeah, I'm going to I'm going to touch upon, you know, because there's one thing I left off.
This also answers your question.
This SB 2006 that people are saying he didn't sign or he didn't approve forced vaccination.
Yes, it went through.
The legislators changed part of that bill, but not that.
but also hidden in that bill was a new emergency management plan where previously the state surgeon general had his or her own capability to run a public health emergency.
But now SB 2006 changed that.
The state surgeon general pretty much has to coordinate and integrate the plans of the federal government.
That was what was signed into law with SB 2006, While everybody is talking about no vaccine passports, what was in that law that Governor DeSantis signed is that the Surgeon General has to come up with a plan that integrates federal health plans.
So that's in Florida law.
So he signed a law that would have to integrate the federal health plans if Fauci was in charge or anyone else.
You know, that basically takes out the authority of our state health officer to do What they think is best for our state by solidifying in law that they have to coordinate and integrate the federal public health plan.
That's what also was changed in SB 2006 that nobody talks about.
The other things that you that you touched upon, Roger, is we had our own Floridian, Dr. Fauci, who worked for the State Department of Health.
And I will go to bat with anybody who wants to argue she is Under the State Surgeon General.
She's a state employee.
She has a state government email address and the chain of command is to the State Surgeon General.
She advised the first mask mandate.
She literally said, I recommend that we go forth with the wearing of a mask as mandatory in Palm Beach County on June.
I want to say 23rd, 2020.
I want to say 23rd, 2020.
And she was the advisor.
And the mask mandates went on until 2022 of February.
And for each one, even after DeSantis said he nullified county orders, they went around that and the county administrator made a policy.
His team was well aware.
I let them know I had communications back that my own child was being denied entry to a public library because of his mask exemption that was a medical exemption.
He was being denied use to a public library because of this policy.
And Governor DeSantis' team knew that, and they did nothing.
And my son was denied entry to the library.
And who was advising this mask mandate, or this mask mandate policy is what they called it, was in consultation with this State Department of Health doctor who worked under the State Surgeon General.
So she never got fired.
Despite, you know, he did allegedly, you know, whatever people are saying, his Twitter influencers, DeSantis' Twitter influencers are saying he canned Dr. Ripkey's and put in Dr. Latipo.
I love Dr. Latipo, and I'm glad that he put him in because I think he's phenomenal.
And I think he actually listened.
But you know what?
For too long, DeSantis didn't.
And this one Department of Health Doctor who worked under the state got away with running the show here.
She advised the mass mandates for the county.
She advised the mass mandates for the school board who defied the governor's orders and got away with it for so long.
Additionally, there was another State Department of Health doctor who before the FDA even authorized the vaccines in the US, they rolled it out in another country and they were seeing severe allergic reactions.
It wasn't even Even authorized here, not approved, I'm talking authorized, didn't even come out yet.
And he gets on in a public meeting and says there are zero safety concerns for this vaccine.
That was alarming because I look at the data, I look at the inserts, the inserts were not even available because the FDA had not even said this is authorized in the US yet.
To say that there's no safety concerns when there's no insert available that tells you those safety concerns, It is completely wrong and concerning, and I had asked that that information be corrected to the public, and it never was.
Furthermore, then going April 2021, our own State Department of Health doctor was asked the question about fertility and the vaccine.
Now, at the time, the vaccines were still under emergency use authorization and the only testing on fertility was done on female rats and rabbits, depending on the vaccine.
So not on humans.
And they were still, you know, doing the follow-up data.
Pfizer said they would follow up for 24 months.
So they were still doing the follow-up.
They only had in their inserts about this animal data.
And she had said something that was misinformation about the fertility in the vaccines, which I did submit an Inspector General report, and it was substantiated.
They did see what I was speaking of that was concerning misinformation to the public.
That information was never corrected to the public.
Instead, that Department of Health doctor was taken by her superior, who works for the Department of Health, and spoken to.
That was the corrective action plan I received in an email.
So, the most important point is, there was misinformation by his state health officers, you know, doctors, about the vaccine, and the most important thing was it was never corrected to the public.
Even when I brought this up, you know, they were emailed, I made aware, one went to the head inspector general who I spoke on the phone with for an hour.
And that was the decision, just to speak to her and not actually correct it to the public, which is a complete disservice to public health and safety.
One fiction that I think needs to be destroyed here is the idea that the Florida legislature is autonomous or independent of Governor DeSantis.
That is not a political reality.
The governor holds sway in this legislature.
That will be demonstrated at the end of the special session when I guarantee you the legislature in both houses will unanimously repeal the state law that right now would require Governor DeSantis to resign as governor if he wants to launch a bid for federal office.
Governor Rick Scott was able to run for the Senate without resigning his position as governor because the law specifies that this is only triggered when the terms overlap.
So in other words, Rick Scott's term as governor ended before the term of the new U.S.
senator from Florida began, and therefore he was able to remain as governor.
Under current state law, Ron DeSantis would be required to resign as governor in order to become a candidate for president.
The problem with that, of course, is that he would lose the extraordinary fulcrum for fundraising in the insurance industry from Disney, who gave $1 million to his inauguration, from gambling interests such as the Seminoles, from gambling interests such as the Seminoles, from the utilities such as Florida Power and Light that gave him a combined $9 million.
My point, of course, is that if you can round up every single Republican vote in the legislature for your presidential campaign, then you ought to be able to round up the votes to repeal the most egregious sections of this law.
Now, You ought to be able to round up the votes to pass Open constitutional carry of firearms, which has just failed in the legislature.
We're going to get permitless carry, which is a step in the right direction.
But the governor's failure in this area is based on his lack of an attempt to pass it.
He made no effort.
By saying, well, if the legislature gets it to me, I'll sign it.
That's a completely phony cop-out.
This legislature is keenly aware of the extraordinarily vindictive nature of both Governor DeSantis and his wife and the fact that they take no prisoners.
So, just to be clear for our listeners, The governor holds sway in the legislature and he could have gotten any revision that he wanted in any of these laws.
Where do you think, let's go back to one of our all-time favorites, former Palm Beach Mayor David Kerner.
It's ludicrous I would have fired Dr. Fauci when you have someone like David Kerner who's appointed after the election and after he endorsed Ron DeSantis in what is clearly a quid pro quo.
Now unfortunately the only two people who could No one believes that.
to that in front of a grand jury are Mr. Kerner himself and the governor and they're not going to implicate themselves in a crime.
But liberal Democrat mayors do not endorse conservative Republican governors and get nothing in return.
No one believes that.
Give us a quick fill in on David Kerner, would you?
Yeah, well, you know, it's it's very interesting.
I have a tweet up on my Twitter where he basically praises Fauci, and when he heard that Fauci was recommending masks, he wanted to do everything in his power because Dr. Fauci said this.
And Dave Kerner actually, prior to the mask mandate, had ordered millions of dollars in taxpayer money masks to be sent to each household before there even was a mask mandate.
So he was very much in lockstep with Fauci and the worst of his policies, which he said that the governor's team approved, was this snitch line that police and code enforcement responded to calls was this snitch line that police and code enforcement responded to calls of everyday people calling a snitch line saying this person's not wearing a mask in the gym or this person is not social distancing in this business and they and they went
into businesses and really gave some of them a And they collected, Palm Beach County, I know Governor DeSantis eventually said no collecting of the fines, but if his team approved this, he had, I mean, I wonder if he knew, but they collected $24,000 And the other thing I do want to point out about the vaccinations is that on Governor DeSantis' record, in 2019, he signed into law that there was a vaccine registry.
want to point out about the vaccinations is that on Governor DeSantis' record in 2019, he signed into law that there was a vaccine registry.
So anyone who receives a vaccination in the state of Florida goes to a state registry that the state has control of and these local state departments of health have control and the schools can see it.
So instead of your private information, your vaccination status and your medical record on vaccinations being between you and your doctor, the state has it.
And DeSantis signed that into law in 2019.
Now, there is an opt-out, but people argue there should be an opt-in.
If you want the state to track your data, then opt-in.
And the opt-out form makes you sign away that you agree that you still have to have these vaccinations and put some sort of blame on you that they're forcing you to sign, which is still tracked by the Department of Health.
So basically, you're either in the system with all your vaccinations or your opt-out is in the system.
The state of Florida is not free.
They are tracking your private immunization data.
It's a crime.
So anybody, it's not just children, it's anybody who receives a vaccination goes into this Florida shot system.
That needs to be repealed.
Completely, if we are a free state.
And it needs to be opt-in.
If people want to opt-in to have their private medical data given to the state, then let them opt-in.
But the fact that he, that Santa signed this into law in 2019 to allow the state to collect your private immunization data.
Now just imagine what they can do with that.
I mean, we've seen what happened with COVID.
I find it particularly disturbing that as the Director of the Department of Motor Vehicles, David Koerner has full access to all those records and therefore backdoor access to the states of voting records as well.
Why would someone appoint a liberal Democrat, the most vicious type of leftist?
By the way, I saw the way this guy acted on the podium in public meetings.
It's really quite beyond belief.
He's odious, to say the least.
Why would you have someone like that in your cabinet?
And then say you would have fired Dr. Fauci.
Seems to me what Mr. Kerner did, other than praise Fauci, is every bit as atrocious as Fauci himself.
It just demonstrates, yet again, that Ron DeSantis is 100% politician, in this case, establishment politician, and his appointment of David Kerner My guess is we'll become extraordinarily well known if the governor insists on continuing to try to make his handling of the COVID-19 pandemic vis-a-vis President Trump a wedge issue.
The simple truth, folks, is their positions are virtually identical, certainly at the beginning of the pandemic.
Both of them are advocates for the COVID-19 vaccination.
In fact, Koerner and the governor put out a joint press release extolling the fact that 40% of the senior citizens in Palm Beach had successfully been vaccinated, actually crowing about it.
So, this idea that Ron DeSantis, the governor of Florida, is different than Donald Trump on the question of the COVID-19 vaccination is false.
I also think it's important to point out that at no time did Donald Trump say that the vaccination should be mandated.
In fact, he specifically said each individual citizen should decide for themselves.
I myself disagree with both of them.
I'm not vaccinated.
I wouldn't urge anybody else to do so.
But to try to say that Ron DeSantis was some kind of brave pioneer in this area or that his positions are different than Donald Trump is just categorically false.
Jean-Marie, I want to thank you for joining us again on The Stone Age.
Folks, check out Jean-Marie Nassar's Twitter site, her Twitter page.
This is where you will find some of the very best information on Governor DeSantis and his handling of the COVID-19 pandemic.
I know you did this at the last minute.
Thank you so much for joining us.
Thank you, Roger.
Thank you for having me.
Appreciate it.
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