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Michelle Obama 2024? Did DeSantis Capitulate to Disney? - The StoneZONE with Roger Stone LIVE
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Now, Lindell TV brings you The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon, and pundit, Roger Stone.
Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.
He is a New York Times bestselling author, and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.
As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.
Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.
And now, here's your host, Roger Stone!
Welcome to the Stone Zone.
I'm Roger Stone, and yes, you're about to enter the Zone.
So, the Democratic National Committee has taken the first major step Towards changing that party's presidential nominating calendar in a way that actually breaks precedent with a half century of tradition.
Traditionally, Iowa caucuses and then the New Hampshire primary have preceded the South Carolina contest, which then moves south and west.
But under the new rules proposed by President Joe Biden's political team, South Carolina would be moved ahead of Iowa and New Hampshire.
And then the schedule would go Iowa and New Hampshire in the days after South Carolina, but then Georgia, Nevada, and Michigan.
Some people have attributed this to the fact that Biden did not fare well In either the Iowa caucuses or the New Hampshire primary, where he actually came in fifth, only to revive his candidacy in heavily African American South Carolina.
And some people have said that the purpose of this calendar change is to aid the Biden candidacy.
I disagree.
I think this effort Which now has to be ratified by the full Democratic National Committee, but was approved in the Executive Committee unanimously, with the exception of the votes from Iowa and New Hampshire, is designed to underline the prospects of another candidate other than Joe Biden.
You see, Iowa and New Hampshire do not have a large African-American constituency within their Democratic primary.
They also put an enormous premium on old-fashioned retail politics.
If you're not prepared to go meet with the pig farmers or the small merchants in New Hampshire and Iowa, well, those are requirements.
That those states are very proud of.
They are great believers in old-fashioned retail politics.
No, I think that this new schedule is designed to help the ultimate presidential candidacy of former First Lady Michelle Obama.
As I have said on the show many times and brought you other guests who have said the same thing,
I believe at the end of the day, President Joe Biden will not be a candidate for re-election, whether that is because he withdraws voluntarily, or he is removed from office by his own party under the 25th Amendment, which would require a majority of the Cabinet, plus the sitting Vice President, who would of course then become President.
No professional Democrat I know, and I do know some, believe that the candidacy of Vice President Kamala Harris is viable.
And therefore, I believe the Democratic Party will make an offer to her of some kind that would remove her from the line of succession in terms of the presidential nomination.
The machinery of the Democratic Party is dominated by Barack Obama and his wife.
If John Durham accomplished nothing else in his two trials, he established the criminality of Hillary Clinton in her inner circle, which means that his final report
While it will not include criminal charges for Hillary Clinton and her retinue, due largely because the Statue of Limitations has run, it will clear the field of any of the Clintons.
As I wrote in my book, The Clintons' War on Women, the blood between the Clintons and the Obamas is not good, regardless of what they say in public.
And I honestly believe that Joe Biden was a last resort candidate for Joe Biden in the last presidential election.
After sustaining early losses in the Iowa caucuses and the New Hampshire primary, his candidacy bounced back in South Carolina, largely with the assistance of Congressman James Clyburn.
A major leader of the African American community in that state and a state in which African American voters are actually a majority within the Democratic Party.
Then again, a schedule that moves to Georgia, again a place where African Americans dominate the Democratic Party electorate.
Nevada, with a heavy Hispanic primary contingent, and Michigan, a place again with a very substantial African American constituency within the Democratic Party.
This is a tailor-made for Michelle Obama.
For those who doubt that she is a candidate, we're going to bring you our friend Joel Gilbert, documentary filmmaker, Uh, uh, an expert on this subject.
He has written both a book, uh, and has produced a new documentary, uh, on the topic.
Um, have we had any luck in finding Mr. Gilbert?
Here, Roger.
All right.
Very good.
Uh, so with no further ado, my good friend, Joel Gilbert, uh, Mensch, Documentary filmmaker, authority on Bob Dylan, man knows more about Bob Dylan and his music, musician, songwriter, and renaissance man joins the Stone Zone now.
Joe, welcome to the Zone.
Okay, great to be back.
Thank you, Roger.
So, you are one of the first voices in the country who called this, who believes as I do, that Michelle Obama is going to be a candidate For President.
Make your case, and then we'll roll the trailer for your terrific documentary.
Okay, well, look, I've been following the Obamas for 10 years.
A lot of people know me from my film in 2012, Dreams from My Real Father, where I took a deep dive into Obama's background, and I did the same thing for Michelle Obama, and I noticed that she's pretty much following the exact same formula that Barack did to become President.
Barack was the keynote speaker for John Kerry at the Democrat convention in 2004, introduced John Kerry.
They gave Michelle the same honored position in 2020.
She introduced Joe Biden.
Obama based his candidacy on his personal story.
His autobiography, Dreams from My Father.
Michelle worked for years and came out with her autobiography called Becoming in 2018 and went on a world book tour.
It was interrupted by COVID.
And she just released her second autobiography called The Light We Carry, under the ruse of a self-help guide.
But in reality, the book is just another autobiography.
It's 10 chapters of Michelle telling her life story, even more as a victim than the last autobiography.
And as we speak, she's on a book tour right now, selling out stadiums.
And lastly, of course, you know, Barack was someone who Michelle always started a voter registration organization called Project Vote in Chicago.
And Michelle started When We All Vote.
She's been running around the country registering people to vote.
So Michelle's pulling all the strings that Barack did to subtly promote her candidacy, to emphasize her relationship with women and minorities, and develop those relationships.
And I think next year sometime, she'll pretend to play hard to get And she'll say something along the lines of, you know, I hate politics, but I love our country and I love your children.
So I'm forming a committee to help me decide to run for president.
And as you say, Joe Biden, who Democrats believe is the most popular politician in the history of the country with 81 million votes, all of them are saying he should not run again, which is very strange given his immense popularity.
And were he to run again, there'd be no opposition.
So there'd be no reason for Biden to move the primaries out of Iowa and New Hampshire.
It makes no sense for Biden.
He'd win them anyway, hands down with no opposition.
The only things that make sense is, as you said, they want to have a primary where Michelle Obama does not have to campaign in every county in Iowa, where she can show up and wrap up the nomination very quickly with a heavy African American electorate.
In South Carolina.
So I think they're setting it up for Michelle Obama and she's playing her cards right on this book tour and developing a relationships with the electorate.
It is not incidental that Joe Biden has not visited Georgia for the for the runoff that happens today between Reverend Raphael Warnock, the incumbent Democratic Senator,
One of the oiliest operators I've ever seen and football great Herschel Walker, neither one of them could obtain a 50% vote in the first round and they go therefore to this sudden death runoff to which both parties have poured enormous resources and money.
Democrats make much of the fact that President Trump has not campaigned there.
But they slough over the fact that neither has Joe Biden.
Polling in the state shows that Biden is, without any question, the most unpopular figure in the state.
But who should come rushing to the rescue?
Who campaigns for Raphael Warnock?
None other than Barack Obama.
Also, in addition, Michelle Obama recorded robocalls for Raphael Warnock and a video.
So she's involved in the Georgia race, along with Barack Obama, inserting herself politically everywhere possible to set herself up, I think, to declare for president next year.
And if you go to MichelleObama24.com, you can see the movie trailer and, of course, a link up to watch the movie online or buy the DVD or the book version on Amazon.
So let's show Joel's book cover first because I do want to recommend his book on which the documentary is based.
Can we throw that up?
I thought that I said you both by email you should have a trailer and a book cover.
If not, let's go to the trailer if you have that.
They could run Michelle Obama.
And if they do... Welcome Michelle Obama!
Michelle Obama is the most popular woman in America.
You know I hate politics.
You can forget about the disclaimer.
I'm convinced that Michelle Obama is running for president in 2024.
Systemic racism, pepper spray and rubber bullets on peaceful protesters.
She's following the exact same formula that Barack did to become president.
Michelle was the keynote speaker at the 2020 Democrat Convention, just like Barack was in 2004.
Barack once ran a voter registration organization.
Now, so does Michelle.
That's how we change America.
Also, Barack Obama based his candidacy on his personal story.
Michelle has done the exact same thing.
But like Barack, Michelle tells a life story that is more fiction than fact.
Maybe somebody's gonna discover that I shouldn't be here.
Now, come along on an investigation into the real Michelle Obama and her plan for power.
I found out Michelle's father worked for the Democrat Party machine.
My father, he was a precinct captain in Chicago.
People would come for money.
It turns out Michelle was never a part of the black community.
In that household, there was fear.
You talk like a white girl.
You could get your butt kicked if you talked like a white girl.
What was going on in the 70s was what we called white flight.
The only person doing white flight in the 1970s was Michelle Robinson.
You're told by a school counselor you're not Princeton material.
You're black, maybe you're stretching.
Michelle was no victim of racism.
In fact, Michelle has been running from the black community her whole life.
Hyde Park is the best neighborhood.
And Michelle sold out the black community working for the mayor of Chicago.
This is turning into a ghetto.
You better run.
They just take our home like this shit.
And she sold them out as a hospital executive, kicking poor black patients out of the ER.
Yeah, I like that.
I learned that to get power, Michelle pretends to be part of the black community she exploited all her life.
Lo and behold, trying to pay your own rent.
Imposter syndrome.
And it turns out, Michelle's close friend and mentor was an anti-American radical.
The politics of fear.
Because of fear.
Your fear!
They want you to be afraid of change!
We're working to change the future of this nation.
We need you.
Are you in?
Fundamentally transforming the United States of America.
And to transform America, Michelle plans to rule America come Election Day 2024. Powerful filmmaking.
I apologize, Regan, you're right.
I did not send you the book cover.
I sent you the lower third.
My apologies for that.
How do you think the Biden presidency ends?
How do you think this plays out to clear the way for a Barack, pardon me, a Michelle Obama candidacy?
I think Joe Biden continues to play the role that he was elected for, which is to take the heat and be the focal point of all discontent.
So all the failures of Democrat policy, energy, foreign policy, inflation, you name it, border, it's going to be blamed on So someone like Michelle Obama can come in and say, well, I'm going to bring us all back together.
She'll appeal to nostalgia.
Remember how much you love the Obama years.
And I understand you and I love this nation.
So she'll have a clean slate.
She doesn't have to Have the burden of incumbency.
In this case, it's a burden.
It's not an advantage.
So you want Biden, they want Biden to assume that role of the punching bag where you can be angry at him, but there's no reason to be upset with Michelle Obama.
She has a clean slate.
So I think Joe Biden for now, maybe for a couple more months, is going to avoid admitting that he's a lame duck and continue to say he's interested in running.
But at some point in the spring, he's going to have to say he's not going to run.
Or he might say he is running in a few months to hold things back a little bit and then a few months later say, well, no, he's not going to run.
And that's when the party appeals to Michelle Obama, who's waiting in the wings.
I did notice that after expressing initial interest, California governor Gavin Newsom recently reassured the Biden White House that he would not challenge Joe Biden.
Clearly Gavin Newsom knows everything.
here that we know.
And although I think he has aspirations, it is very clear to me that the Obamas control the machinery of the Democratic Party.
And if they do a plan to nominate Michelle, she will surely be the nominee.
For those Republicans, conservatives, Trump supporters, free thinkers out there who are cringing at this moment, make no mistake about it.
Michelle Obama will be a very formidable candidate.
She is not without talent.
Why?
One of the things that you really document extraordinarily well in your film, Joel, is the way she has reinvented herself again and again, changing up her hairstyles, changing up her clothing styles.
This also echoes her husband, who early in his candidacy, people argued he wasn't black enough.
Tell us about that.
Yeah, look, the Obamas both have invented pretty much phony backgrounds to try to get political appeal.
Barack, you know, was raised in a white household with a white mother.
He didn't have any black friends.
He had no black experiences growing up whatsoever.
So he tried to, you know, appeal to the minority vote.
Part of that process was marrying Michelle, marrying a black woman and leaving his Asian American girlfriend.
So that's been pretty well documented.
What people don't know is that Michelle Obama grew up in South Shore, which is not even on the south side of Chicago.
But she writes in her book, Becoming, stories of suffering, racial discrimination, being held back in life, people telling her she can't accomplish things because of her skin color.
And I investigated that by talking to three of her boyfriends, her elementary school Classmates and principal, high school classmates, college professor, you name it.
And Michelle completely invented all of her story of being held back in life.
It's completely phony.
She comes from a very elite background.
Her father's a precinct captain.
She spent her youth running away from the black community, living in fear of the black community.
She openly got caught in her book interviews saying that she was afraid to go out of her house.
She was afraid of getting beat up.
She got in fistfights with black kids who accused her of acting white.
So she makes up these false stories to manipulate the black community into identifying with her.
One of the biggest ones she's been telling for 15 years is that her high school counselor racially profiled her.
As you saw in the trailer, she said, you're black, maybe you're stretching, you shouldn't go to Princeton.
Well, I found out her high school counselor was a church-going black woman.
And there's just no way I think, you know, she would have racially profiled her in that manner.
So that's made up story.
And Michelle, You know, as you said, she was a top fashionista.
I talked to her hairdresser, celebrity hairdresser, since she was 18 years old.
Only had very fancy hairstyles, top 25 best dress list.
And in 2008, she shows up on the campaign trail with Barack Obama dressed like a homeless person and doesn't even comb her hair in an attempt to manipulate the masses and lower class, middle class people into thinking, well, she's just like me.
So you'll see Michelle's pretty much doing the same thing on her new book tour.
She's appearing for the first time in her life with braids for the very youthful kind of urban hairstyles that she never had in her life and she's openly complaining to the interviewers like David Letterman and Tyler Perry that She said, Oh, America wasn't ready for me to use braids in the White House, even though she never had them in her life.
So Michelle's a very manipulative person.
She has a very phony background and she's out there as we speak on tour.
I'll be going to see her here in LA on December 13th with Oprah.
She's trying to get minorities and women to identify with her, even though she has very little in common with them.
And that's her political play right now.
She's trying to become a regular person.
That people can identify with, when in fact she has nothing in common with average Americans.
So, Joel, I think we have it up on the screen, or we'll put it back up in a second.
Where can people go to get this phenomenal documentary?
Yeah, you go to www.salemnow.com www.salemnow.com and search Michelle Obama 2024.
Also, you can watch the movie online or Get the DVD.
And Amazon.com, you can also get the DVD or buy the book version, which is very in-depth.
It's a real critique of Michelle's autobiography, Becoming.
And I go through the entire history in Chicago, and you learn something you've never heard of before.
There's been six biographies written on Michelle, and they simply repeat whatever she said.
And in my film and book, I really take a close look at what Michelle is saying versus the truth and the reality of her life story.
One of the most powerful documentary filmmakers in the country, Joel Gilbert.
I would be remiss if I did not mention your intimate knowledge of the musicology of America's greatest troubadour, Bob Dylan.
Joel actually played in a Dylan tribute band.
You may still do so, as far as I know.
But he's a talented musician, and he knows that topic extremely well.
That's right, I've made five documentaries on Bob Dylan, and I actually had a tribute band here in LA in the late 90s.
I started a tribute band, and when I started to make a documentary about Bob Dylan, I interviewed his band members.
And I said, hey, how'd you like to come join my band?
And within a year or two, I suddenly had five of Bob Dylan's original band members in my band.
And, you know, I had the original band, but, you know, the The substitute Bob Dylan was me.
So we've performed for years around the countries, toured in England, Ireland, and Canada.
And it's just been quite an experience.
And I went on to make several more documentaries on Bob Dylan and his music.
And then I started making political documentaries on the Middle East, Middle East history, the Iranian nuclear program, of course, Barack Obama, Trump, the art of the insult, one of my more well-known movies, as well as this latest film, Michelle Obama, 2024.
So here's a curveball question.
Dylan, like all really sustaining superstars, reinvents himself multiple times in terms of his musical genre.
What is your favorite Dylan period?
Probably two favorite periods are the 1966 World Tour, where he's performing live in Australia, England, France and Sweden.
Dylan is not really a recording artist.
He just shows up at the studio because the record company said, you got to do an album for us.
And he's done in 24 hours.
He's out of there.
So he's a real performing artist by nature.
So those are the great performances, the 1966 World Tour.
And then in 1974, he recorded Blood on the Tracks, which was about his relationship with his wife, whom he was divorcing.
So those are two seminal periods of Dylan's career where he just had incredible music, and I recommend those to everyone.
Yeah, Blood on the Tracks is my favorite album, I have to say, of all of the Dylan genres.
Okay, one more time, Joel, tell people where they can get both your book and this terrific documentary.
Okay, SalemNow.com.
You can live stream the movie on SalemNow.com or buy the DVD.
And then Amazon.com, you can also get the DVD.
And the book is for sale on Amazon, too.
And the name again, Michelle Obama, 2024.
Joel Gilbert, thank you for joining us here in the Stone Zone and God bless you.
All right.
Thank you, Roger.
Joel Gilbert, ladies and gentlemen, one of the most dynamic and talented documentary filmmakers who is
Backing up the political theory that he and I both share, that the 2024 Democratic nominee for president will not be Joe Biden, nor will it be Vice President Kamala Harris, but these rules changes, the changing of the half a century long tradition of having the earliest presidential nominating contest in the Iowa caucuses in the New Hampshire primary,
Then followed by South Carolina being disrupted at the direction of the Biden political team who would put South Carolina, the state that revived Biden's candidacy based on its large African American constituency within the Democratic primary first, then allowing that would be much less publicized votes in Iowa and New Hampshire.
Followed quickly by Georgia, Nevada, and Michigan.
This is, as I said, a layup for Michelle Obama.
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Happy to be here.
I'm delighted to have you back.
If you watched the Stone Zone last week, we had two different shows that showed the activities of Florida Governor Ron DeSantis were somewhat disturbing.
First, there is a new report out yesterday from the Florida Commission on Ethics, which has confirmed that Broward County Sheriff The single most powerful county sheriff in the state of Florida who was appointed to a vacancy caused when Governor Ron DeSantis
Uh, fired sitting Sheriff Scott Israel, um, lied to the state, uh, in his application forms for that appointment.
Stood trial for both murder and drug dealing in Philadelphia and, uh, uh, murder and drug dealing in Philadelphia.
Did not disclose that on those forms.
Didn't disclose it either when he was, uh, hired as a police officer with the Coral Springs Police Department.
May not be creditable under the state's system to even carry a firearm based on his background, yet Governor DeSantis has taken no action.
Let me be clear, an investigation that was directed by Governor Ron DeSantis by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement Uh, recommended his termination, the sheriff's termination.
Uh, we now have the second report from the State Ethics Commission.
Uh, yet, uh, Ron DeSantis does nothing.
Does not, uh, does not bode well for public confidence in law enforcement.
And then, uh, yesterday, pardon me, uh, last week, we had a terrific interview in which it was revealed that Palm Beach City Mayor David Kerner, who is literally a COVID-19 Nazi.
This is a man who formed a COVID compliance task force.
That would send jackbooted thugs into various businesses to harass business owners to take pictures of customers and would essentially contact employers demanding that employees be fired over their failure to wear a mask.
Now, in view of reports yesterday, That the governor is considering legal action against some of the drug companies that have produced these vaccinations for which people have undeniably been injured.
That doesn't fit together very well.
Kerner violated the civil liberties and I think is responsible for the deaths of a number of people.
He harassed businesses.
He even set up a snitch hotline Kind of like Nazi Germany, where you can call and inform on other citizens who had simply been refusing to wear a mask.
He was an advocate for ticketing and charging people without wearing masks.
Yet, we believe that Governor Ron DeSantis is about to appoint Palm Beach County Mayor, a left-wing Democrat, who endorsed Ron DeSantis in a shocker before the election, to a high-level law enforcement post.
Can you say quid pro quo?
So what do you have to report for us today, Shane?
Well, the big story that's been going viral at Big League Politics is Ron DeSantis capitulating on his opposition to Disney.
He talked really tough against Disney, signed a law claiming or signed a law that would revoke the special tax breaks given to the private government run by Disney.
Called the Reedy Creek Improvement District.
So that was extremely popular with conservatives that won him.
Plaudits, you know, showing him as like the anti-woke governor, the leader against the woke agenda.
But now a year later, he's getting ready to capitulate.
Right now they're working on a decision.
A new CEO of Disney, Bob Iger, who was the CEO before his woke replacement, took over.
He's back in the saddle.
He is working through the RINOs in the Florida legislature and the Democrats and working to get those tax breaks back with a quote-unquote compromise.
Representative Anthony Sabatini, state rep, solidly America first, smoked out this agenda on Twitter and all the governor's office is doing is offering lip service.
They're saying they're not doing a U-turn, but the Democrats have made it clear that the only thing that The DeSantis administration is worried about is looking good in the media.
They don't want to take any hits for capitulating on this.
They're going to paint it as a win when it really is in fact a loss and they're giving everything back to Disney.
And Disney has not changed their ways.
They've not reformed themselves.
They're still putting out propaganda, porno, aimed at children to sexualize them for the quote unquote, in their own words, gay agenda.
This is what they're doing, and they have not reformed, but DeSantis is getting ready right now to give their special tax breaks back to Disney, and all he's really worried about is the PR fallout.
So how can he spin it so that he can remain the so-called heir apparent to Trump for 2024?
That's what he's worried about right now, is how it'll look in the eyes of the media.
Well, it is indisputable that Governor DeSantis took a $1 million contribution from Disney, and that was after he took the hardline position to repeal their very special, essentially self-taxing authority.
To give this some context, the Governor has been very aggressive in opposing those who would push an agenda in the public school systems where A school children were being sexualized were being subjected to race, gender or sex indoctrination.
But because Disney was a vocal supporter, or I should say opponent of the of the governor's bill, the governor retaliated by repealing their very special tax status.
Now the governor's office, in all fairness, as you point out, Shane, they are denying this.
But that doesn't mean it's not going to happen, does it?
No, it's political doublespeak.
We've seen a lot of this from Ron DeSantis, and I think if you follow the money you see the agenda that's really at play here.
It's not just the huge contribution that Disney has given to DeSantis, but it's also the globalist Rhino megadonors who have rallied around Ron DeSantis and see him as the antidote for populism, For the MAGA Agenda for America First in the GOP.
Look no further than Ken Griffin, who has given $5 million to Ron DeSantis.
He's the Wall Street mega donor, longtime establishment bank roller of the Republican Party.
He was out in the media weeks ago saying that all the donor class needs to rally around Ron DeSantis.
DeSantis is the only hope.
To stop the Trump America First agenda, how to subvert that and derail it back into the Bush style, neoconservative era of old.
And he even said publicly, well, I don't like some of the things that DeSantis has done, such as his punishment for Disney.
Well, you know, when you give $5 million to a politician, they're going to listen to you.
That money always comes with strings attached.
So.
Ron DeSantis owes a lot of rich RINO funders favors, and those favors are going to be cashed in heading into 2024 if he runs for president.
He's giving off every indication that he will run against Trump in 2024, unfortunately.
He is without any question going to challenge Trump for the Republican nomination.
That was clear in the debate with Charlie Crist, the Democratic nominee, when on at least three occasions during that debate he refused to commit to fulfill all four years of a new term if elected.
I also point out that there is currently in place a Florida state law That was put in place by the state Republicans originally to kneecap Charlie Crist, which essentially says you can't remain as governor or any state elected official and at the same time be a formal candidate for federal office.
So under this law, Ron DeSantis could not remain as governor, which is the nexus of his fundraising fulcrum.
While also challenging President Donald Trump for the Republican presidential nomination.
I believe that the February session of the legislature, a special session called by the governor to address certain state insurance issues, will, when they are in session, change that state law.
But it is yet another strong indicator that Ron DeSantis is Going to run.
I think there are two giant vulnerabilities, maybe three.
He still needs to explain the appointment of Sheriff Gregory Toney.
The appointment of COVID-19 tyrant David Kerner would be one that folks would not understand in New Hampshire or Iowa.
Now, to his credit, he is making noises through his Surgeon General, who I think is a very good man, about legal action about the manufacturers of some of the vaccinations, trying to hold them legally liable.
I think that they have legal protection under federal law.
I'm not an attorney, so I don't know if this is more Political theater, or whether it is in fact real.
There's no one who could make the case, given that so many of the donors to Ron DeSantis are making billions with the Chinese in various businesses, that he would be nearly as tough on the Chinese as Trump was and would be.
No one can argue about Trump, who implied tariffs, who objected to their manipulating of our currency, and who the Chinese were clearly, definitely, most afraid of, or at least did not understand, and therefore, that unpredictability became an enormous strength.
The Chinese hadn't bumped into a president who would stand up for America until they met Donald Trump.
The other big question mark for me, Shane, is where is Ron DeSantis on the war in Ukraine?
He was a neocon when he was in the House.
He voted for TPP, for example, or the big tax deal or the big trade deal, I should say.
Where is he on Ukraine?
As a governor, he hasn't been forced to say.
I'll tell you this.
All of his mega donors, and this guy is raising money like there's no tomorrow, all of his mega donors are cheerleaders for the war in Ukraine.
So I think those are going to be two defining issues if there is, as I expect there to be, a Trump-DeSantis face-off.
Other characteristics of this upcoming fight you want to point out?
Absolutely.
Ron DeSantis, when he was in Congress, had a very Paul Ryan-esque voting record.
He was good on the fiscal issues for the most part, but he was poor on trade.
He supported the TPP.
He was generally neoconservative on foreign policy.
And those issues aren't as big at the state level as they are on the national level.
On the national level, they will take prescience over pretty much any other issue.
You don't hear DeSantis railing on foreign policy issues.
You don't hear him on Ukraine.
When the Feds came in and ransacked Mar-a-Lago, he may have issued just kind of a vague statement opposing it.
Why didn't he interpose his own agents of the state to stop the Mar-a-Lago raid?
Why didn't he have his own officials arrest the federal thugs who came in?
And ransacked Trump's private property for Biden's political agenda.
That could have really shown that he was legitimate and that he cared about defending freedom.
But you don't hear DeSantis talk much about the deep state either.
So on the most, arguably the most key issues of the America First agenda, trade, immigration, fighting the deep state, those are all huge question marks for DeSantis and with the GOP establishment
Being willing to support DeSantis so much and prop him up and try to make him look like a hero, you know, as they pull out the rug from under Trump and sabotage his candidates and allow voter fraud to happen, that suggests that they have assurances that DeSantis will play ball on these key issues and allow globalism to continue to ravage the United States if he's president.
Well, as you know, this Congress passed legislation that provided for an outpost for the Capitol Hill police.
Here in the state of Florida, I think they're authorized to hire as many as 500 officers.
The exact location of this Capitol Hill police headquarters is someplace between Tampa and Orlando.
This was covered in the mainstream media.
Why Governor DeSantis has not done anything about that is a mystery.
This is the only police department that is a legislative police department, meaning they don't report to the Department of Justice, they don't report to the FBI, they don't report to the executive branch of the government.
This is Nancy Pelosi's personal police department, and their job is to investigate right-wing extremism right here in the state of Florida.
Yet another issue where Governor Ron DeSantis has been entirely, entirely silent.
Absolutely.
And that's the sort of thing that, you know, people, you know, talk about conservatives, you know, backing the blue as they should.
This Capitol Police, Pelosi, Stasi, you know, they're not subject to FOIA requirements.
There's nothing you can do in terms of Getting some sort of redress of grievances if they violate your rights.
You know, they are, you know, the founding fathers would have considered them a standing army.
The fact that they're allowed to come into Florida and inspect and do unconstitutional searches on the people of Florida, on all the conservatives there, and Ron DeSantis looks the other way, it's really appalling.
And it shows that Ron DeSantis cares more about getting victories in the media Heurich victories that are usually revoked later, he'll either capitulate on them or a court will revoke them like on his Anti-Woke Act that would have banned institutional racism in the workplace.
That got all the headlines, but then later on, a court revoked that, said it was unconstitutional, and it was quietly dropped.
His big tech reform, Laura Loomer gave great testimony about why the provisions in it would do absolutely nothing.
To help people who had already been unpersoned and banned by Orwellian tech censorship.
Ron DeSantis and the rhinos in the Florida legislature who serve at his behest.
They did nothing to change that provision.
It passed.
They said it was some kind of big win when it in actuality did nothing.
So DeSantis is very dangerous in this regard.
And if he leaves Florida and runs for president, You know, a lot of the successes in Florida, I think, would evaporate pretty quickly and it was very possible that, you know, a rhino would come in and take over and not even pay lip service to these issues.
So, if he abandons Florida before, you know, that state is shored up, it shows that he's very self-serving.
And let's face it, he never would have gotten across the finish line if it wasn't for Trump.
If he wasn't, if he didn't position himself as a mini-Trump anyway, He would never come close to winning.
He barely beat the meth-smoking orgy guy by less than a point with Trump's support.
So let's face it, Trump has a lot to do with the progress that's happened in Florida, too.
So it's time for DeSantis to stay where he belongs and maybe wait for his turn in 2028.
If he runs in 2024, he needs to be defeated soundly by Trump.
All right, folks.
Shane Trejo, Yosemite Shane, to follow him on Truth Social.
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