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	And now, Lindell TV brings you The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon, and pundit, Roger Stone.
	Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.
	He is a New York Times bestselling author, and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.
	As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.
	Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.
	And now, here's your host, Roger Stone!
	Welcome, I'm Roger Stone, and you are about to enter the Stone Zone.
	You know, when Elon Musk paid $44 billion for Twitter, I had no idea the way in which he was going to shake up the political discourse in America.
	Although conservatives and free thinkers, Trump supporters, Republicans and others have been complaining about the severity and cancellation and censorship of all mass communications in the United States for a couple years now, nobody has driven this message home the way Elon Musk has.
	Musk has begun dropping bombs, starting with the Biden campaign's active efforts to get Twitter to block anyone talking about the proceeds, the contents, of Hunter Biden's laptop.
	And over the weekend, Elon Musk began dropping bombs in the form of individual documentation of collusion between the Biden campaign and Twitter.
	And there is no question that the New York Post's revelations regarding Hunter Biden's laptops As you see on their front page today has now gotten entirely worse.
	What we now know is it's not just collusion between a American political campaign, in this case, the Biden campaign and Twitter, but the active involvement of the federal government.
	That's right.
	According to today's New York Post, Story we just put up on the screen.
	The FBI was meeting regularly with Twitter executives to coach them on what stories and what links and what posts needed to be censored.
	Specifically in a groundbreaking story by my friend Miranda Devine in the New York Post,
	Today, the FBI warned Twitter during weekly meetings before the 2020 election to expect, quote, hack and leak operations and, quote, state actors involving Hunter Biden and, quote, likely, close quote, that this would happen in October, according to a sworn declaration by Twitter's former head of site integrity, Yoel Roth.
	These warnings were so specific that Twitter immediately censored the New York Post's incredible scoop about Hunter Biden's laptop on October 14, 2020, claiming that it was based on, quote, hacked materials and therefore violated their hacked materials policy, an event described by Musk himself as election interference.
	We now know, because we reported it here on the Stone Zone many months ago, that the material received by the New York Post was not hacked and was not the fruit of any online or other illicit activity.
	We know that Hunter Biden left his laptop with a Wilmington, Delaware-based repair shop and failed to pick it up.
	After 90 days, under the policy of the shop, agreed to in writing by Hunter Biden, the laptop became the property of John Paul MacIsaac, who joins us here shortly.
	This whistleblower's life has been turned upside down based on the false claim that he was peddling hacked materials.
	But the former owner of the computer repair shop, who will join us here shortly, who blew the whistle on Hunter Biden's laptop, said he was vindicated now that Twitter owner Elon Musk released the explosive report on how the social media giant censored the post's reporting on the disgraced first son's shady business dealings.
	When I look at these stories on Twitter, and I'm not on Twitter, I've been banned there.
	I'm waiting to see, as President Donald Trump would say, what happens.
	But I can read, and reading the Twitter feed of others, what's amazing to me is the number of people reacting to this story saying, so what?
	There's no involvement by Joe Biden, or Joe Biden had no involvement in his son's business.
	We know that that is categorically false, based on the testimony of this fellow Bobulinski, who was a partner of Hunter Biden, plus the laptop evidence itself, holding 10% for the big guy.
	Who is the big guy?
	So this is the largest single scandal since Watergate.
	It is not a big a scandal as the use of the full legal authority and the incredible intelligence capability of the Biden administration to use falsified evidence, the Steele dossier, and the CrowdStrike report to rationalize the unconstitutional and illegal attempt to remove a sitting president.
	That remains the biggest dirty trick in American political history.
	MSNBC this weekend had a piece in which they said that Donald Trump should be subjected to the same seditious conspiracy charges as the Oath Keepers.
	No, I would say Barack Obama, Joe Biden, FBI Director James Comey, former CIA Director John Brennan, A former acting Attorney General Rod Rosenstein should be charged with treason.
	That is a far more egregious scandal than anything that happened on January 6th, and we still have nothing but the one-sided narrative of the January 6th committee.
	Still no evidence the president did anything wrong, but we do know that the committee edited his video, just as they edited videos of me, in which he said that his supporters should march peacefully and patriotically to the Capitol.
	Interestingly enough, in the release of Donald Trump's Twitter feed, and therefore causing the ability for us to see his posts again, which had been missing from the public domain, you can see on January 6th on multiple times when he calls for peaceful and law-abiding action and urges everyone to remain peaceful and for no one to disrespect law enforcement.
	This only bolsters his case that this is yet a witch hunt.
	Probably, I guess, would be witch hunt number four.
	So while we wait for that patriot John Paul MacIsaac to join us and talk about how this has turned his life upside down, how he has been vindicated, it's a good time for me to remind you that our program here is brought to you as it is five days a week at four o'clock Central, five o'clock Eastern, By the good folks at MyPillow.com.
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	We're waiting for John Paul McIsaac To join us momentarily.
	He is the man who gave the Hunter Biden laptop to the FBI a full year in advance and heard nothing about it.
	It was then and only then that he sent a copy to former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani.
	Giuliani satisfied himself that it was legitimate using forensic experts of his own and then became a source for the New York Post.
	The New York Post very bravely published it.
	Instead of the Pulitzer Prizes going to the Washington Post and New York Times reporters who posted completely fictitious stories about Russian collusion, I would argue that Emma Jo Harris and Miranda Devine and others at the New York Post are the reporters who deserve a Pulitzer Prize for the breaking of this incredible story.
	The attacks on, I'm gonna get this guy's name right, the attacks on independent journalist Matt Taibbi, who writes at Substack, who's by no means a conservative or right-of-center, just an honest journalist, the coordinated attacks on him now on Twitter show me that the bots are still there.
	Taibbi wrote an extraordinary report on how the top workers at Twitter used this hacked material fallacy to blunt publication and distribution on the internet of stories regarding Hunter Biden's laptop.
	Polls taken after the election show a substantial number of voters, almost 20%, said that had they known of the laptop revelations, particularly the connections between China, Russia, Romania, Ukraine, Hunter Biden and his father Joe, it would have affected their votes.
	So this is, without any question, the biggest scandal in American political history.
	This dwarfs Watergate.
	Now, I saw a curious tweet by James Woods, the actor, who said that the fact pattern here, essentially, was identical to Watergate in that Nixon's henchmen were seeking to stifle free speech.
	I don't see the parallel.
	This was a separate scandal.
	All of it involving private parties, I might add.
	In other words, Nixon did not use the FBI to break into the Watergate Democratic National Committee headquarters.
	It was no less a crime, but essentially it was a comedy of errors.
	The wiretaps placed never Uh, never worked.
	Uh, to this day, we don't know precisely what it is the Watergate burglars were looking for.
	If you've read either one of my books on President Richard Nixon, you know that there are various conflicting claims by some of the major actors in Watergate as to what the break-in was all about.
	Uh, in this case, uh, it is absolutely clear that 31 individual, uh, intelligence, uh, uh,
	Agency veterans, or some currently employed, came forward in a concerted effort to absolutely label the Hunter Biden laptop revelations as Russian disinformation, despite the very best efforts of the Good evening.
	New York Post.
	There has been no retraction, no apologies.
	There has been nothing to pull back that false assertion.
	Now joining us, John Paul MacIsaac, a patriot, just an honest individual, not even a political guy, joins us now on The Stone Zone.
	Good evening.
	Hi.
	Thank you so much for being back on with us.
	Thank you for having me.
	Think how much has transpired since the last time we had you on the air.
	Yeah.
	You really are a selfless patriot.
	You're not a political guy.
	You don't have a political motive.
	Kind of take our audience back to the beginning.
	Hunter Biden walks into your shop and drops off a laptop.
	Then what?
	Well, you know, he hired me to recover data from One of his liquid damage laptops.
	And that's a point that I really want to stress is like this wasn't a repair.
	He wanted me to go and recover his personal information.
	That's also the root of where my fears initially came from because he was in possession of a document that said I was allowed to perform a data recovery off of his devices.
	So I thought it was a matter of time before the Secret Service or the Biden fixer-upper service was going to pay me a visit and make sure that the laptop stayed silent and And so did I. I had no idea when I went to the FBI that the FBI would do exactly the same thing.
	They would put efforts to keep me silent and then bury that laptop.
	Yeah, just to be absolutely clear, you never saw any evidence that there was hacked material.
	You certainly didn't hack any material, and you saw no evidence that the material on the laptop had been hacked by others, correct?
	Usually in my industry, when a person gives you permission to access their data, that's The opposite of things without people's permission.
	I was given full permission to recover the data.
	There was no hacking.
	And you said today on Fox, it was a great performance.
	I should say great appearance.
	You said you feel vindicated.
	This is really heartening.
	Because I know that this has been very difficult on you personally.
	I've been in the crosshairs and I know.
	And I know what you have been subjected to.
	People don't understand the financial calculation, the financial risk and vulnerability, the unpleasantness of those who disagree with us personally.
	This has been an extraordinary odyssey.
	But as I recall, you brought a couple of lawsuits, and you were successful in those lawsuits.
	Oh, unfortunately, not very successful.
	My first lawsuit was with Twitter, and that was back at the start of 2021.
	If I was ever going to seek a professional career again in fixing computers, the last thing I need is the label hacker.
	So I went after Twitter for defamation.
	We actually beat Twitter at Section 230.
	They put up their Section 230 immunity and we defeated them at it.
	Unfortunately, to prove that I was not a hacker in the court of law, we were going to demand that Hunter Biden testify.
	And once we made that clear, they Whoever they is switched out judges on me.
	They gave me an Obama appointed judge.
	And in the course of about a month, she made the decision that the case was to be thrown out with prejudice.
	And then I was, or Twitter was awarded all the legal fees.
	So I was punished with a Florida slap statute.
	And I believe that that was solely an effort to not only shut me up, but to destroy me financially and basically take me out of the fight.
	And I don't think they were anticipating me handling the complete opposite direction After my defeat, I actually wrote my book as an effort to defend my actions and hold those accountable in a court of law because, again, I thought I'd never have an opportunity to defend my actions in a court of law, but maybe court of public opinion I had a shot at.
	So I wouldn't have probably written the book if it wasn't for my defeat with Twitter, so I'm kind of grateful on one hand for Twitter.
	It taught me a valuable lesson, though, that We need to fix Twitter from the inside because they lied to me and they lied to my legal team.
	They did not present any of the communications when we went to discovery and when we went to preservation.
	So I just want to be clear about one thing.
	I support Elon Musk and his endeavors right now so much that I'm not going to hinder him in any way, shape or form.
	My battle with Twitter is over.
	I'm here to support him in any capacity that I can, because what he's delivering me now is the closest I've been to justice in probably close to two years.
	Tell people about your book and, most importantly, where they can order it.
	The book's called American Injustice, My Battle to Expose the Truth.
	Kind of looks like that.
	That one.
	It's available on Amazon and most other retailers.
	I think even somebody said they saw it in Target.
	It's basically another piece in my effort to expose the truth and to hold people accountable.
	And I figured I was shadow banned on YouTube.
	Social media did a pretty good job of blocking the story.
	The left is kind of partial to banning books and burning them, so I don't know.
	But if they do, I'll just keep printing more.
	It's just my way of getting the story out.
	So, as we've established, folks, the material in Hunter Biden's laptop was supplied indirectly to the New York Post by John Paul MacIsaac.
	It was not hacked material.
	There was no hack.
	As the New York Post reported today, the FBI met regularly with Twitter.
	Not only in advance to warn them that there was a hack that was going to go down that was likely connected to Hunter Biden, a complete falsehood, but then when the material was published by the New York Post, moved quickly to ensure that it was censored on that platform.
	I have a feeling this story is very, very far from over.
	I do want to compliment you on your choice of headgear.
	They make fun of the hats I wear all the time.
	Sorry, I love it when they go after the hat because it just tells me, oh, I need to know about those individuals.
	They care more about a hat than they care about the truth.
	I kind of like it as a matter of personal style and a statement.
	So believe me, I'm used to being attacked not only for my headgear, but for the shape of my head.
	That's how demented these leftists are.
	I want to wish you the very best with your book.
	Say the title one more time so we can drive people to buy it.
	Yep, it's American Injustice, My Battle to Expose the Truth.
	All right.
	John Paul Mac Isaacs, a great man, a man of courage, a man of integrity, a man who did the right thing.
	Thank you so much for joining us again on The Stone Zone.
	Thank you, sir.
	Alright folks, that was John Paul MacIsaac, who has gone through hell.
	I mean, I've been there.
	What they did to this man in an effort to destroy him, and the fact that he's still speaking out this morning on Fox & Friends, here today on The Stone Zone.
	He is living proof that there was no hack, that this material was not stolen.
	Kudos to Elon Musk for having the courage to lay it all out there over the weekend.
	The sad part are the people who are either bots or they're so stupid that they can't read, who keep insisting that all of this is irrelevant.
	That it had no impact in the election or that it had nothing to do with Joe Biden.
	All of that is, of course, completely wrong.
	Toria Brooke joins us shortly to give us the latest breakdown on what's going on in the battle to become Speaker of the House.
	If you've been following the Stone Zone, you know that the meeting of the Republican House Caucus several weeks ago in which Kevin McCarthy, the minority leader of the Republican Party, received 181 votes 31 votes voted for Andy Biggs of Arizona.
	That is not the definitive vote.
	The definitive vote for Speaker of the House comes when the House opens a session to organize.
	And at that time, in order to become Speaker, a member needs 218 minimum votes.
	As of today, there are 220 Republican members of the House.
	Congressman Matt Gaetz has said repeatedly that he has the votes to deny the speakership to McCarthy.
	But we don't know who Matt Gaetz and others put forward as an alternative.
	And as I reported here on the Stone Zone on Friday, McCarthy has played the nuclear card.
	In other words, he's made it clear that if he doesn't have enough Republican votes to become Speaker, Because he has a dominant block of Republican votes, that he is not adverse to the possibility of making a deal with Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats under some kind of power-sharing arrangement.
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	Joining us now, Toria Brooks.
	Toria Brooke, pardon me, joins us on the Stone Zone.
	Hi, Roger.
	Thanks for having me.
	Thank you very much for joining us.
	I follow your posts on Truth Social.
	They're very, very lively.
	I like your spirit, and I appreciate our mutual friend connecting us so you could be on the show today.
	Thank you so much.
	Yeah, I noticed that you had reposted the first podcast I ever did, so that was really cool.
	And I'm just constant news, so I'm glad I can inform you.
	All right, so let's start with Kevin McCarthy.
	Give me your take on the fight to become Speaker of the U.S.
	House.
	So, the interesting thing is, is that Kevin McCarthy needs 218 votes to become Speaker.
	Now, there's 221 Republicans that could technically give him the vote, but as it stands, there are at least five that are going to vote no.
	That includes Matt Gaetz, Andy Biggs, Matt Rosendale, Ralph Norman, and Bob Good.
	Now, what's interesting about this five is that back in May, there was a vote to send $40 billion to Ukraine, and Kevin actually voted yes to do this.
	And wouldn't you know, of the 57 Republicans that actually voted to not send the money or aid to Ukraine, the five men that I just mentioned were part of the no vote.
	So these five men unequivocally say no to McCarthy, And there's multiple reasons why.
	We know that he took FTX money, and rather than using, you know, morally sound money that he collected, he actually used that money through his PACs to go against America First candidates like Joe Kent.
	So it makes you wonder, why would we want someone, a Speaker of the House, that's against Donald Trump or America First?
	Aren't you concerned that lacking enough Republican votes that Carthy will turn around and make some kind of shady deal with the Democrats?
	Well, he would need about 20 to 30 Democrats in order to facilitate his win.
	Now, we know that's a possibility.
	However, about, I think, 31 people voted for Andy Biggs as an alternative, and there were about five individuals Coincidentally, that voted for an unknown pick for the Speaker.
	So, according to Ralph Norman, in the coming weeks, we may find out who that candidate is for Speaker of the House.
	Yeah, it would seem to me to elect a Republican Speaker, you would need a candidate who can command the 181 votes who voted for Kevin McCarthy.
	As well as the 31 votes who voted for Andy Biggs in caucus.
	I'm not sure who that person is today.
	I do know this, that Matt Yates is a shrewd political operator.
	He's very smart.
	He's very skilled.
	He has not been afraid to take the Democrats on within the House Judiciary Committee.
	He's proven his mettle.
	He's been attacked for it.
	But I would not ever bet against him.
	He remains loyal to President Donald Trump.
	He remains loyal to the America First agenda.
	I did find it interesting that McCarthy, I almost viewed this as a concession, said that if he became Speaker, Congressman Eric Swalwell, Congressman Adam Schiff, and Congresswoman Ilhan Omar would not be allowed to sit on sensitive committees.
	In the case of Swalwell, this is kind of obvious.
	He was caught penetrating a red Chinese spy who then penetrated his office with an employee.
	As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, he has access to classified information.
	And Speaker Pelosi has refused to discipline him in any way.
	Unfortunately, The red Chinese spy with whom he had a personal entanglement, who went by the name Fang Fang or Christine Fang, mysteriously died in a plane crash back in March.
	I can see why the speaker, any speaker, any Republican speaker, would want to deny him membership of that sensitive committee.
	Then of course there's Adam Schiff, the worst congenital liar, conman, huckster and fraud in the U.S.
	Congress.
	It's amazing how pious this guy is as he repeats the same lie over and over and over again.
	And when asked about McCarthy's comments, he said, well, Kevin McCarthy is okay with his presidential candidate sharing polling with Russian intelligence agents.
	That is completely false.
	That's a reference to a man named Konstantin Kalimnik.
	And the claim that Kalimnik Who was an associate of Paul Manafort is a Russian intelligence asset is essentially disproved.
	In fact, there's more evidence that would indicate that Klemnik was a US intelligence agent.
	He was in regular contact with the US.
	embassy in Kiev.
	His information was so prized that his name was redacted in their cables.
	He was working for us, not them.
	But this is kind of typical for the course when it comes to Adam Schiff.
	That's why I say, if it's Schiff, flush it.
	What is your take on McCarthy's pledge to block these members from committees?
	Well, I think that sometimes you got to hand trade-offs, right?
	So it sounds appealing just like how he's purporting that it was his idea to drop the military vaccine mandate, which you might have heard.
	Recently, he said that he probed a bid with Biden to get this mandate dropped, and I just find it interesting because Isn't the board or the CEO of Pfizer involved with FTX?
	I can't fact check it at the moment, but I'm pretty sure that's relevant.
	And what's interesting is that Elon Musk just asked, well, he brought up the thing that Sam Bankman-Fried of FTX said that $1 billion went to Democrats in 2022.
	And my question is, where's the rest of the money from FTX?
	Because we know it went through McCarthy-Rand-Pax to go against America First candidates.
	The other thing that's very interesting is that, looking at my notes real quick, the National File is going to release a dossier soon.
	And it's going to discuss the Director of National Intelligence's 13 adjudicated guidelines that they use to bring on a security clearance for government civil servants.
	Now, based on those guidelines, McCarthy does not have at least four of the requirements of those 13, which would include his outside activities, his foreign influence, and his lifestyle.
	So I feel that Him trying to make some kind of a deal that he's going to bar certain members from speaking on certain committees or on certain topics is just his trade-off to try to dangle a carrot in front of certain conservatives' eyes to try to get him in.
	You made a very good point.
	First of all, Noel Frisch with National File has appeared with us here.
	Broke the story on FTX here.
	Spoke extensively about the battle over the House Speakership.
	He's welcome at the Stone Zone anytime.
	He's done an incredible job on this.
	But you made a very good point earlier, which is note the commonality between those who oppose shipping billions of dollars to Ukraine for the war effort And those who oppose Kevin McCarthy.
	In my opinion, this is the great fault line in the Republican Party.
	One that is greatly underestimated.
	All President Donald Trump has said, correctly, is we would never have this war, we'd never have this conflict, if he were president.
	He would have gotten a negotiated settlement at the beginning.
	It is indisputable that we are violating a 1994 treaty that we signed, the United States, in which we agreed that Ukraine would not be pushed into NATO.
	And that's what this fight is really about.
	It's not about the desire of Vladimir Putin.
	Who is a thug.
	Let's make no bones about it.
	It's not about a desire to occupy Ukraine.
	It's about the dangers of NATO-based, or I should say Western-based, missiles being dropped into the silos that have already been built on the ground in Ukraine in violation of a treaty that we agreed to.
	Those who think that just because the vast majority of House and Senate Republicans voted to ship billions and billions of dollars, and I think that's just a down payment, there's more going, folks, does not mean that rank-and-file Republicans support this war when we can't spend a few million dollars To seal our own southern border.
	This is going to be one of the most important internal party issues in the dynamic coming up.
	Many people in my home state and other places in the country have spoken of Governor Ron DeSantis as a potential presidential candidate.
	It's a free country.
	It's his prerogative to run if he wishes.
	But where does he stand on the financing of the war?
	He hasn't said.
	As a governor, he has not had to take a position on this issue.
	But when you look at who his donors are, they're almost all globalists.
	They're almost all neocons.
	I'd be shocked if his position is not identical to that of McCarthy and McConnell.
	Which at this juncture is not the position of Donald Trump.
	What else are you covering out there right now?
	What brings the eyes to your podcast?
	Honestly, I cover a variety of things, world events and domestic.
	I don't like to just focus on one area, because as we can tell just in this conversation, it's all connected.
	So, I've been heavily focused on the war in Ukraine, As well as the election cycles that have been going on here.
	It's devastating to hear what's going on in Arizona, but we know how corrupt all of it is, and I'm just glad that people are starting to wake up to that.
	So, I know you touched on DeSantis, and I want to mention the fact that Christina Pusha, who is one of his employees, I believe she's moved on three teams within his administration.
	I'm pretty sure she's linked to Ukrainian officials.
	I want to say that she had a connection there.
	I think there was a photograph of herself and Zelensky, so I just want to note that.
	And anyone that's in the media being touted as this hero and not getting any attacks, you have to ask yourself why.
	You know, the Democrats are advocating for McCarthy, and they're seemingly also giving Ron DeSantis a place to be heard.
	So remember how relentlessly attacked Donald J. Trump was, and there's a reason for that, because he's not part of the establishment and he's for us.
	Well, Christine Pushaw worked previously for McCain, for Bush.
	As I recall, she worked For some oligarch in the region.
	I'm not sure whether they were Russian or Ukrainian.
	Well, we will fact check that, so we don't want to say something that is wrong.
	But anyone who thinks that were Ron DeSantis the nominee, he would not come under the same attacks as President Donald Trump, I think misunderstands the fight for the future.
	On the other hand, given his Yale and Harvard pedigree, given the Literally, tens of millions of dollars he's taken from the likes of Ken Griffin and other globalist billionaires.
	I don't really believe that he's an America First Republican.
	Not at heart.
	I like some of the things that he's done.
	Certainly liked that after two years, he finally did away with the mask mandates, the mask requirements, but that did take two years.
	There are reports that he took a million dollar contribution from Disney.
	There are reports that he is going to reverse his position on Disney's special tax status awarded to them by the Florida State Legislature and signed a law by previous Florida governors.
	The governor's office denies that there's any change in their policy.
	We're going to be covering that very closely for you.
	Let me ask you this about the war because it's very, very difficult.
	I read the New York Post, as I said in the first segment.
	I like the New York Post.
	Generally speaking, I find it to be the most accurate daily newspaper in the country.
	But to say that I don't agree with everything in there would be an understatement.
	If you read the New York Post, Putin is getting beaten very, very badly in Ukraine.
	My problem, of course, is I'm not an expert on international affairs, don't claim to be one.
	I don't know if that is war propaganda or whether it is accurate.
	I do know that they're walking us up to the cusp of World War III.
	My concern here is when we say, we as a nation say, we reserve the right to use nuclear weapons preemptorily, that's a change of policy in this country that scares the daylights out of me.
	What do you think's really going on in the ground in Ukraine?
	Right now, I think there's a lot of propaganda that's coming out of there.
	We've seen that consistently.
	And you know that if there's positive propaganda coming out for NATO and the EU, that they're just going to keep funding them because why not?
	To them, it's a power grab.
	And I don't think it has anything to do with any kind of liberation.
	I just found out last night that European news networks were reporting that Zelensky is not trying to win anything.
	He's really just trying to damage Russia.
	We saw that with the pipeline hits.
	That was very evident that it wasn't just a coincidence.
	The Zaporozhye nuclear power plant, there's been a lot of activity going on there.
	Do I think that Putin's going to use nuclear force?
	I don't think so.
	I think that it's a lot of talk and there's a lot that just still needs to unfold there.
	But I do know that a lot of the Uh, government legislations that are coming out are interesting because today, supposedly Putin, uh, banned pedophilia and, well, anything related to gender identity that's being misnomed.
	So, you know, here we're having issues with the she, her, him, everybody identifying themselves, and he's very against that.
	So, we're seeing some policies over there that are in line with the Christian values that we have here, not to say that we agree with everything that's going on, but I do think there's a lot of misrepresentation in the American and Western media as to the real story.
	So, I like to follow the international news rather than just our news to get a clearer picture.
	I strongly advise you looking at RT, Sputnik, Telegram channels.
	It's a great way to get a well-rounded view.
	Yeah, the idea that Zelensky is some kind of Democrat, small d, is absurd.
	He has banned political parties.
	He has banned television stations.
	He has banned newspapers.
	And now, credibly, I read several stories that he has banned the Greek Orthodox Catholic Church.
	Those are not the actions of a Democrat, small d. Those are not the functions of democracy.
	And the fact that there are real Nazis, I mean genuine Nazis, who are the recipients of American tax dollars in this war effort is frightening.
	I'd like to agree with you that Putin I pray that he won't use nuclear weapons.
	I pray that Zelensky won't use NATO nuclear weapons.
	But I really fear we're on the cusp of World War III.
	I don't see how Putin, who has his own politics at home, has Hardline generals pushing him, no doubt.
	There is face-saving on top of it all.
	I really don't know.
	I agree with you that you have to read all of the media to get a balanced view.
	I'm not saying that, you know, isn't all war propaganda on one side or another.
	But we have seen online these faked photographs where they take photographs that were used 10 years ago, 15 years ago, and they now claim, oh, this is Ukraine yesterday.
	So I think one has to be wary of what they hear.
	This question of Putin's personal health, I have no idea whether he's sick or not.
	I do know that we have a mainstream media in this country that lied for two and a half years about Russian collusion with the Trump campaign, that more recently got caught lying about Hunter Biden's laptop.
	Which I guess is a great next place to go.
	What's your take on the truth bombs dropped by Elon Musk this weekend?
	So, I think Elon's Twitter files were more so for the people who haven't been looking at all the information that we have for the last few years, because we know Marco Polo actually dropped the Hunter Biden Laptop Report, which you can read on their substack, or follow Garrett Ziegler.
	I think Elon was really trying to draw attention to those who might not be privy to this information, might not have been following all along, and apparently the head of the ADL had an interview recently saying that after These revelations that were posted to Twitter that, oh, you know what?
	This censorship is a bad, bad thing.
	And that's interesting because the ADL was heavily influenced with the entire censorship deal on Twitter.
	So I'm very curious to see how this plays out, but this is baby steps compared to what we have ahead of us in undoing the censorship that has caused a ruckus on the entire conservative movement.
	Yeah, I saw the coverage of the Marco Polo research published in the UK Daily Mail.
	It was very, very compelling.
	This is probably the second biggest political scandal in American history, second only to the Russian collusion hoax, for which to this day, no one has been held responsible.
	Those who criticized John Durham, and I have been one of them, because he essentially charged the guy driving the getaway car with double parking while the bank robbers got away, still revealed that at the highest levels of both the federal government and the Clinton campaign, there was the fabrication of a false narrative regarding Russian collusion and Donald Trump, which did not exist.
	Why some of those who testified in the trial weren't charged in the trial?
	Well, that's an odd question.
	But it is once again a demonstration of the two-tiered justice system that we are under.
	Toria, what else are you reporting on these days?
	What's hot?
	Well, right now, I believe today, the Supreme Court was ruling on a case of a business owner who refused to serve a gay couple.
	I think they didn't want to design a website for them, so that was very interesting going on this week.
	Um, there's a lot of other Supreme Court happenings that have been going on.
	I don't remember all of them off the top of my head, but I'm interested to see kind of how the legal process plays out because as we're seeing just in the cases with the election, um, I think a lot of people are tired and they want to see something happen.
	And I'm going to hold the faith that we're going to pull through and we're going to see some victories.
	So.
	That's one of the cool things that I've been looking at.
	And actually, in Mongolia today, there were actually protests and there were citizens storming the presidential palace, or the governmental palace, just trying to combat the fact that the inflation is soaring through the roof.
	So this isn't just in the United States.
	And I think globally, many people are not happy with the way their governments are being run.
	So that is a blanket statement of what I'm covering.
	Yeah, I must say, as a 40-year veteran of American politics, I've worked for 11, actually now 12, presidential candidates, all Republicans with the exception of one.
	I supported Governor Gary Johnson the first time he ran as a Libertarian.
	And I've worked for numerous governors, U.S.
	senators, members of Congress.
	I've never seen anything quite as egregious and obvious as the steal of the Arizona election.
	I mean, this is really quite simple, folks.
	In Maricopa County, the tabulating machines took ballots of a certain size.
	They were tested the night before the election with that size, the correct size ballot, which came from not the local polling place, but was printed at a central location.
	Yet on the morning of the election, as many as 60% of the precincts, most heavily Republican precincts, the polling places were purposely sent a ballot that was oversized in which the tabulator could not, would not read.
	This is the most egregious fraud that I've ever seen.
	And then on top of it, we now have proof that Katie Hobbs, who rarely left her basement to actually campaign, was threatening county officials to certify a fraudulent election, threatening to have them charged and jailed if they did not do so.
	To me, that is an obvious abuse of power.
	In that 40 years in American politics, I have never seen Other than Ronald Reagan, a natural like Carrie Lake.
	One of the really the best communicators, the best candidates I have ever seen.
	I also think she ran an excellent, well-funded, well data-driven campaign.
	And I believe that she won.
	In fact, I think it is obvious that she won.
	My question is, will the courts at any level step in here and take any action?
	The evidence of fraud and manipulation is, once again, overwhelming.
	But will we get justice?
	What do you think?
	It's hard to say because is it supposed to get this bad so that people really get upset about it?
	Because now we're seeing even Democrats, I know in California there was a race, Mike Cargile, his opponent, who was a total, a light on earth.
	The Democrat candidate actually said she wanted a veto or Sorry, she wanted an audit of her election.
	And interestingly enough, she actually won that election in California.
	It was with Congress.
	But you're seeing it across the board that Democrats are getting upset too.
	So it's not just an issue of America First anymore.
	It's the entire nation.
	And I think at this point, like you said, it's so blatantly obvious.
	This is almost worse than the 2020 election because we're seeing it even more poignant.
	Like it's not just two candidates.
	This is every state.
	We saw something.
	So I really hope that there's justice, but time will tell.
	I do know that the UOCAVA ballots were the main issue in many situations.
	Those are the overseas ballots that are technically sent in.
	So if you're military, if you're out of the country, there were reportedly many of these printed in excess.
	As you can imagine, they were not filled in correctly.
	They were computer automated.
	So It makes you wonder, beyond UOCAVA, what else was part of this steal?
	Well, the answer is obvious, I think.
	We need to return to paper ballots.
	We need to have, the election needs to take place over one day.
	We should be counting and accepting ballots after that day.
	Absentee balloting should only be allowed with a legitimate excuse as to why one cannot show up in person.
	Mail-in balloting, as Bill Barr said on Fox before he changed his mind, is an open invitation for voter fraud.
	If they can count 35, just short of it, 35 million votes on paper ballots in France in one day, well then we can certainly do it.
	That is the fix.
	That is the only fix that will matter.
	One of my biggest concerns is we can fight about who the nominee should be.
	I'm 100% for Donald Trump.
	People know that.
	You may choose a different candidate, but he is our strongest candidate, and he's the strongest candidate for the nomination.
	But it won't matter who our candidate is if we don't fix our broken voting system.
	And it will be the same states.
	So I would urge both President Trump and Governor DeSantis and former Secretary of State and CIA Director Mike Pompeo or Nikki Haley or anyone who wants to be president, you should be in Wisconsin, in North Carolina, in Arizona, in Georgia, demanding election law reform.
	If we don't fix it now, folks, it won't get fixed.
	And if we don't fix it, it won't matter who the Republican nominee is in two short years.
	Toria Brooke, tell people where they can see your great podcast.
	Thank you.
	I am on Rumble, YouTube, Spotify, iHeartRadio, and Podchaser, and then my regular social media accounts are Instagram, Truth Social, and Telegram.
	You can find me at TheRealToriaBrooke across all, because I just got suspended from Twitter, so once I get back on there, you can find me at just RealToriaBrooke.
	Well, you got suspended on Twitter.
	We have something in common.
	For me, it's only been since 2017.
	Congratulations.
	You must be doing something right.
	Oh, it's my third time.
	Thank you for joining us on the Stone Zone.
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