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Dec. 9, 2022 - The StoneZONE - Roger Stone
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Garrett Zieger and Tyler Nixon EXPOSE Hunter Biden's Dirty Secrets - The StoneZONE with Roger Stone
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But here to help us refute all of that and to break down the epic corruption represented by the evidence in what was not Russian disinformation, but are the actual contents of Hunter Biden's laptop, is Garrett Ziegler of the Marco Polo Foundation.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Pleasure.
Thank you very, very much for joining us.
First of all, just as someone who's written five books, The level of research and the depth of research you have done here is gargantuan.
I mean, it is a Herculean task.
I was very impressed by the piece in the UK Daily Mail, and this is euphemistic, but I think they identified or you helped them identify 435 or 439 individual crimes.
435 or 439 individual crimes.
Tell us what's in Hunter Biden's laptop.
Well, that piece from the Daily Mail was very good for traffic, but they actually got one thing wrong, which is we have counted seven felonies that Joe committed.
And the figure you cited is 459.
And that is an absolute conservative estimate, meaning we had to have two pieces of corroborating evidence to say that there was a violation of state and federal laws and regs.
And so, to answer your question very directly, what we have is a cornucopia of federal felonies that make what Paul Manafort did with regard to the Foreign Agent Registration Act kids play.
In true Gable's fashion, the exact thing that they accused Donald Trump's associates of doing, yourself included, they did in spades and with many more countries than just, say, Russia or China.
We actually have six different countries in the report.
Hunter represented foreign principals from six different nations.
And remember, That is legal in the United States.
You just have to register with the Justice Department.
And so the lion's share of felonies that we cite over many jurisdictions, SDNY, District of Columbia, the District of Delaware, where the investigation is currently going on into Hunter, there are FARA violations, money laundering, and three documented cases of sex trafficking.
That means moving bodies over state lines.
And it was a team effort, Roger.
And as somebody, you know, before this interview today, I rewatched a talk you gave in Texas about the book you did about Kennedy's murder.
And I was very excited to come on.
And I know, you know, Hemingway once said that writing is very easy.
All you have to do is sit down and bleed at the typewriter in his case, at the word processor in mine and yours.
And it really was a team effort, and it took me 13 months, it's 644 pages, and we have not had one left-wing debunker yet.
And so, I'm happy to get into the details, I know you're stickler for details, and my cousin, second cousin, was Nixon's press secretary, so I'm doubly honored to be talking to you today.
I'm glad you brought that up.
I was going to ask you how your Uncle Ron Ziegler was.
Yeah, second cousin.
I only met him once.
I was eight when he died.
You know, he was one of the few people to go to San Clemente on the plane on August 9th, but I didn't get to talk to him much.
I was a young guy.
When confronted about something that he had said that turned out not to be true, he said, well, my previous statement is no longer operative.
Yeah, I definitely don't want to Be held to account on every single thing he said, although it was good that he avoided indictment.
But we do quote him once favorably in the report, which is Watergate was the third-rate burglary.
And this, the felonies that are on this device, and we stay away from the purely salacious, meaning the only time we put Hunter buck naked holding a gun is when there are crimes involved, meaning hookers, drugs, etc.
There is a small subsection of pure degeneracy in the endnotes, and it is astounding.
And just remember, this is not just the wayward son.
This is his daughter-in-law, his daughter.
They're all sex and drug addicts.
And it wouldn't be that big of a deal if that weren't prime black male material.
And so it's, I think, an encyclopedia, and I know it's a bold statement, for the Biden laptop.
And we've been meeting with congressional investigators.
And the last thing I want to do is hear From Republicans that we need to do another investigation.
The investigation has largely been done.
What we need are subpoenas, not the type that I received from the sham January 6th committee, but actual subpoenas from a standing committee.
And there are so many people in this involved.
Devin Archer, Kevin Morris, the guy who set this up, Tyler Nixon, you and him.
Are in our report, actually, because some person named Kevin Morris, who paid Hunter's back taxes, is basically trying to put all the blame on Hunter Sins on you and Tyler Nixon and Keith Ablow, which is ridiculous.
And so I reached out to Tyler in April and I said, this is what Kevin Morris has cooking.
This is what's coming down the pike.
And he's going to launder this false intel from a guy named Brooklyn Dad on Twitter.
I'm not sure if you know of this character.
But it's really pathetic what they're coming up with now to avoid talking about the real issue.
Another classic example of guilt by association.
Tyler Nixon is not only a personal friend, but he's one of my personal attorneys.
He's represented me for a number of years.
As you know, he grew up in Delaware.
He knew both Hunter and Beau Biden.
He's a contemporary of theirs.
He had no advance notice.
Of course.
the laptop.
He learned about it at the same time as the rest of the American people.
But simply because he's from Delaware, simply because he's knowledgeable, they decided that, well, it all lines trace back to Roger Stone.
I learned about this story when I read about it, thank goodness, in the New York Post.
It is extraordinary, the story of censorship, the fact that 31 intelligence officers, either current or former, have the cojones to come forward and say this is all Russian disinformation prior to the election.
Now, Now even the New York Times, the newspaper of record, admits that the laptop contents are real, but not one of those public officials has come forward to apologize or retract their earlier statement.
Which gives you some idea of the collusion between the political establishment, the so-called deep state, and the legacy media of today.
What do you say to the claim, which of course you can see everywhere on Twitter, that Joe was not involved in his son's business activities?
And of course the president himself has said he knew nothing, never spoke to him about it, doesn't know anything about it.
Would you knock that one out of the park for us?
Yes, and we actually go into it about 50 different pages in this report deal with allusions to Joe Hunter talking about conversations he had with his father dealing with his business.
And in fact, we actually cite one RICO statute in this report, and it's a pretty high bar to reach RICO.
Robert Blakely wrote the statute … in the 60s to try to go after the mafia, and I actually reached out to Robert Blakely, but guess what?
Blakely was the counsel to Joe Biden in the 80s, and so he had no interest in talking to me.
He hung up on me.
He was a longtime professor at Notre Dame, and so the RICO statute that we cite that Hunter admits to… Is for 30 years, he gave his father 50% of his salary.
And he's lamenting this fact to his daughter, Naomi, who was the first grandchild to be married at the White House just two weeks ago.
And so the crime specifically that Joe violated all laid out.
It's a very dry report.
How I'm talking to you right now is not the exact voice I use in writing it.
This reads like a state level prosecutor wrote it.
And it goes tax evasion.
Joe facilitated FARA violations and he also, Joe utilized non-public information for Hunter's gain.
Hunter was cc'd on emails about Ukraine at the exact time he was on Burisma's board.
And another crime that Joe did, which is very ironic considering what's going on with number 45, is Joe had a private alias email and Miranda Devine has covered this and she helped us with our dossier.
It was Robert.L.Peters at PCI.gov, and the reason why I'm belaboring this point was because this was set up by government officials, and this was monitored by government officials, this secret email address.
And so what Hillary did was she put it in a closet in her home, which was horrible.
But Joe did the exact same thing.
And remember, Obama knew about Hillary's private server because he's emailed with her on that.
And so at the exact same time Hillary was doing all this, we found concrete evidence that Joe had a private secret email and Hunter knew about the email and that's how they corresponded.
It wasn't at OVP.gov, which was the official office of the vice president.
It was this obscure PCI.gov and we put that in our report and we put the contact information for a gentleman named Mark Grabo in the Secret Service who set that up for Joe.
And so they use these moles and people who are not well known.
We try to illuminate these figures and bring them to the surface.
And I'm honored that you have dug into this because we put, you know, there's 2000 footnotes and there's been no dispute of fact.
Yeah, it's an extraordinary accomplishment.
I'm very familiar, obviously, with Paul Manafort's case.
Yes.
Manafort actually, he is charged with violating the Foreign Agents Registration Act, yet he never actually himself lobbies any member of the government, either the executive or the legislative branch, but he hires other people to do so.
A former congressman, but more importantly, he also hires Tony Podesta, who actually goes out and does the lobbying on behalf of Manafort's Ukrainian clients.
Yet, Manafort is charged with violating the Foreign Agents Registration Act, even though he didn't lobby anybody.
He merely hired lobbyists.
But Tony Podesta is not charged with any crime.
Thank you for bringing that up.
Thank you for bringing that up, because Tony Podesta was, as you know, allowed to backdate his FARA application.
It's unheard of.
It was unprecedented.
He knew he had committed a felony, and then because he was a Podesta, the DOJ let him say, you know, from 2012 to 2014, and this was in like 2017.
The reason why I brought that up is two people at the center of Hunter's FARA violations in Ukraine, four Ukrainian principals, both Slachevsky, Pazarsky, and Kolomoisky, are Sally Painter and Karen Tramantano.
And I know you know those two names very well, but some of our viewers might not.
And they were allowed to do the exact same thing that Tony Podesta was allowed to do, which is backdate his FARA statement.
And they did that this summer, and it's gotten very little press, but it's just a repeat case of they don't enforce the FARA against Dems.
And I've sent this report in PDF version and our online reader version at MarcoPoloUSA.org to the entire FARA division at the DOJ and the entire criminal division.
Ken Polite, who was just standing behind Merrick Garland the other day when they announced the special counsel of Jack Smith.
His job is to oversee the FARA division and he's totally crapping the bed.
And I know you know this very well, but what we're trying to do with this dossier, the end goal is To convince the Republicans to send criminal referrals to state and local prosecutors, because Joey will pardon Hunter, even if it's the last thing he does.
And there are state money laundering violations, Roger, in Arkansas, where Hunter's financial advisor, Edward Pruitt, lives, that are still within the statute of limitations, and are ripe for any AG.
And we've already contacted the incoming AG in Arkansas.
That is something they're not wargaming.
That's something that Kevin Morris isn't wargaming, and all these other goons.
If you had to pinpoint, say, make this a little difficult, the four most egregious crimes here, the four largest crimes, those where you could even make the case that the crime is treasonous, meaning not only were the Bidens lining their pockets, but they were also risking the security and violating their loyalty to their own country.
What would you say?
That's a very good question.
Number one would be the FAR violations and money laundering violations dealing with the, in quote, private energy conglomerate, CEFC.
And the reason why that is number one is because the figures that were involved in that were ground zero for spreading the Belt and Road Initiative all around the world.
And Joe was involved.
And in fact, because we talked with Tony Bobulinski in the preparation of this dossier, many, many hours over the phone, he has confirmed to us That Xi Jinping was responsible for approving potential meetings between Joe and somebody who has now disappeared, Ye Jingming, who was the CEO of this energy conglomerate.
And so we have confirmed FARA violations for not only Hunter, but Jimmy Biden, Joe's little brother, Jimmy's wife, Sarah, and Joe with CEFC China.
That's number one.
And like the Manafort indictment, which you know very well, every Penny that you get from a legal FARA representation is subject to forfeiture, right?
All the proceeds from that contract, at least 5.8 million, that we can track alone, which we posted on our site, all the bank statements at Cathay Bank.
That's number one.
Number two would probably deal with the fact that Joe and Hunter co-mingled bank accounts and their business partner, Eric Schwerin, for years, for years, was withdrawing money on Joe's behalf.
He actually wrote checks on Joe's behalf.
And what this is essentially is bank fraud, and we cite that in the report, meaning they are making payments through another person that is not an authorized user of that account.
And so Eric Schwerin, there's been stories about him for the last 18 months.
He went to the White House 19 times.
He was basically a well-paid babysitter.
Hunter doesn't know private equities to save his – he can't do anything with a spreadsheet.
This guy knows nothing about finance.
Now he's selling his doodles for $100,000.
So, they brought in Eric Schwerin, who is technically proficient, and he managed Hunter's entire life.
In fact, Kathleen Biden, his ex-wife, in her divorce memoir, said that Eric Schwerin basically managed, quote, every aspect of their financial lives.
That's number two, is the bank fraud with Joe and Hunter.
Number three is Hunter Biden not only just consumed crack cocaine, Which, again, is ironic considering that Joe instituted mandatory minimums of crack, not powder, which sent many, many blacks to prison for a lot longer than they needed to be in prison for.
And so you'd think that Hunter, this uppity guy who went to Archmere Academy with Tyler Nixon, would do powder cocaine.
But no.
Hunter did the exact same thing that, if the law applied to him equally, would have sent him to jail for many, many years.
That's number three, is that Hunter not only consumed crack cocaine, but he also dealt in it, and we go into that as well, which carries higher penalties, which Joe and Jill and Ashley and Kevin Morris never talk about.
They only talk about Hunter's addiction, but we have proven cases of him dealing to other people.
That raises a whole new line of inquiry for us.
And we actually got into his iPhone backup.
We were the first group to do it in June of 2022.
We cracked the encrypted code.
It was stored on his laptop.
And more drug deals were in there, which set our release date back.
That's number three.
And number four, like I mentioned, three confirmed cases beyond just a solicitation of Craigslist girls.
And all these pornography sites that Hunter admits in his semi-fictional memoir that he used.
But it's he actually transported via Amtrak three women from Boston to New York City in December of 2018.
And remember, Hunter had a no-show job as the vice chairman of Amtrak, nominated by George Bush.
And Hunter's qualifications for that job were that he rode on trains a lot.
And so the exact mode of transportation, That our first son was the vice chairman of.
He used to transport women who are about 19 to 24 across state lines for sex.
I would say those four.
Uh, it is, uh, there have been some in the, in the legacy media who have argued that the real crime here, uh, is the release of all this private information that belongs to Hunter Biden.
And that this is an outrageous violation of his privacy rights.
That one's pretty laughable, but I'm going to let you address it.
Go ahead.
Thank you for asking.
This is a very atypical situation, and if you are an independent, I understand if you're surprised at the turn of events.
How does somebody who is this high up in the American political system Not by his own talents or virtues, but by his father's ability to fail upwards his entire life.
How does somebody just forget a laptop?
Well, he brought three into the repair shop, and if it were a WikiLeaks-type scenario, we probably couldn't release some of this information because we're US citizens and they would throw the book at us, but because legally he abandoned this device, We were able to put together this dossier.
By the way, the red marks are every time Joe committed a felony.
You'll see there's seven of them.
But it's a bit of an unbelievable situation that somebody was this addicted to crack cocaine, that they bring in three laptops.
John Paul MacIsaac is able to salvage one by giving him an external keyboard.
And then one of them is beyond repair.
They were all three water damaged.
But then this one, he brings an external hard drive to John Paul.
He drops it off on a Friday, April 12, 2019.
I'll get very specific.
On Monday, he brings back an external hard drive because JP says he needs to transfer the data onto that.
And so we know that Hunter came back once, which throws out the theory that he dropped this off on purpose, because why would you come back with an external hard drive if you wanted to drop it off and sort of get your hands off of it?
But he just – he was high on crack, and he himself says he went to L.A.
after that.
And then three weeks later, Joey announces for president.
And so it is a – I don't want to call it a political gift, but it is a window into this universe of grifting.
And I think – you mentioned, Roger, the letter from the 51 former intel spooks about this.
You'll notice that more people, more signatories on that letter are Republicans, not Democrats.
And so this is an expose of the uniparty, Strom Thurmond's son-in-law and hunter.
Our good friends to this day, major Republicans.
And so that's why when I was pitching this idea of this dossier back in March of 2021 to all these think tanks, they didn't want to work with me.
It wasn't just because I was the young guy in the room and I had confidence and I told him I'm going to do this.
It's they were afraid of some of the Republicans being implicated by this.
Like Frank Luntz, a total huckster piece of crap.
He's in the Biden laptop.
Strom Thurmond's son-in-law.
A lot of Republicans at the state level.
It's all just one uniparty.
And so I would, you know, to answer your question directly, it's an abandoned device that let us see this entire subterranean universe of both influence peddling and criminality.
So there is no evidence whatsoever that any of this material that you analyzed was obtained through an illegal hack.
Is that correct?
Not.
That is absolutely correct.
And they have tried to bring so many people at us Not us specifically, but the Washington Post had cyber analysts.
CyberScoop, this online outlet, tried to find any evidence of tampering.
There is none.
The incredible thing is that it's all real.
And none of the DKIM signatures in the emails have been proven to be falsified.
And so it's a very weird scenario where the left has no answer to this.
They have none because we're very And it's not just me.
It was a group effort with two attorneys.
We're really – I don't call it an opposition research firm because that supposes we have a side.
I hate the establishment Republicans, and I don't have a side.
We're just a research firm that is trying to apply the principles of private investigatory work from the likes of Bodeetle on to political corruption.
And so we used a forensic accountant, we used attorneys, and we used private investigators.
To go through Hunter's contact list and pull private investigative reports on all these people to see the LLCs that they own, which is hard because Delaware is the shell company capital of the world.
And that's no coincidence, considering Joe was the credit card senator.
And so with this laptop, we were able to pierce the corporate veil of so many of these money laundering vehicles.
That the Bidens have operated.
And, you know, one thing that's new, there are about a dozen new things in this, but one figure we talk about for three whole pages in the report is Mel Monzack.
He's a very, very discreet, intelligent, corrupt Jewish man from Rhode Island who has been Joe's power of attorney since 1987.
And he's all over the laptop.
He's the guy moving the monies around.
When Joe sends $175,000 for rehab and Hunter spends it on human trafficking exploits and crack, Mel is the one sending the wire.
Mel was invited to a state dinner with the General Secretary of the Chinese Communist Party under Obama's regime.
And so we illuminate these other figures.
It's not just Devin Archer.
It's Mel Monzack.
You know, I'm reading, I have a one-page article from Miranda Devine about this report of the New York Post in front of me, and I'm very grateful for this article because it's a good, short, somewhat pithy, you know, synopsis of it.
And we've sent the dossier to all 4,000 contacts on Hunter's laptop.
We actually scraped every single email address.
And, Roger, I admire your fortitude and fearlessness.
I'm trying to emulate that by just not caring what people respond to me.
Very few people have engaged.
I called every single hooker and drug dealer on the laptop.
A couple of them talked to me.
Most of them told me to F off.
A lot of them are scared that Joe is going to utilize his administrative state to go after them.
But so far, as long as we distribute this information across the web, I call it carpet bombing.
We're carpet bombing the report across the web.
And as long as it's distributed, we have nothing to fear.
There was a specific incident I recall reading about where Hunter engaged some ladies of the night at the Chateau Marmont and then for whatever reason his ATM or his credit card wasn't working.
And who does he call?
He calls the Secret Service.
And they come and get him.
And I believe they use Joe's credit card to pay off the hooker.
You can't make this stuff up.
This is a phenomenal episode and I truly am.
Nobody has asked me this in an interview yet because I spent four pages on this and you're allowing me to talk about a former Secret Service agent named Robert Savage III, full name Lorenzo Robert Savage III.
He was the special agent in charge, the top dog in the L.A.
field office.
He retires early 2018.
I'm setting the scene here.
This fiasco that you alluded to occurs on the night of May 24th, 2018.
So Robert has just gotten out of the Secret Service.
He's now the CEO of a group called Beverly Hills Security Group.
It's basically he's laundering his connections from the Secret Service to become this big wing in a private security firm.
And what Robert text Hunter is very simple.
It's very incredible, too.
He said, H, I'm in the lobby, come down.
This is linked to Celtic's account.
DC is calling me every 10.
And so what occurred is Hunter, he not deliberately but accidentally used
One of Joe's accounts to pay a Russian pimp named Golnora Jamilatova, who has multiple foreclosure proceedings against her in LA, and we actually called her up and called the opposing attorney in the foreclosure suit, and what happened was DC, meaning the secret DHS, which oversaw the Secret Service at this time, it's since gone back to the Treasury Department, they apparently, based on this hard evidence,
monitored a financial account from Joe when he was not legally, I guess, able to have Secret Service protection.
Because this was in May of 2018, by statute, the trader Mike Pence and Joe, they both lost protection in July of after they got out of office, right?
So the VPs get it for six months.
But this proves that 17 months later, Somebody within DHS has insider access to monitor Joe Biden's financial accounts and saw a $25,000 wire go to a bank account controlled by a Russian national named Gulnora Jomolitova, who was the registered agent for a company called Emerald Fantasy Girls.
And it's a it's a Tom Wolfe who lived in your city, New York City.
He's my favorite author ever.
And he once said that America is the grandest carnival in the history of man.
This is one of the most ridiculous scenarios.
Round dollar wire transfers.
And so Savage, who, by the way, wasn't in the Secret Service at this time, but was actually collaborating with another former Secret Service agent for Joe.
He was on Joe's protective detail named Dale Pupilo.
And Dale has told me to F off.
Dale now lives in Texas.
And Dale was there, too, that night at the Jeremy Hotel.
He was at the Jeremy Hotel and Rob St.
Dale's here as well.
And they make the front desk clerk hand over the key to Hunter because they needed to go reverse this charge to the Russian pimp.
And we say in our report, we wonder what or it is unclear what authority Savage and Papillo possessed to force the front desk personnel at the Jeremy Hotel to give them the keys to Hunter's room.
So how were they able to come up to Hunter's room?
Because Hunter was avoiding them.
He's saying, I'm in the bathroom.
I'm coming right down.
You don't have to come up.
And so we track and put screenshots to three weeks of correspondence with Hunter and this Russian pimp to get his money back.
Because remember, it wasn't just that they used Joe's account, but Hunter overpaid!
He was mad because he thought he overpaid for the girl!
The carnival's never been richer.
And then we also found out through Miranda Devine That Hunter's secret service name is Chieftain.
So he put a little funny meme in the report of Hunter with a meth pipe as an Indian, because his name was Chieftain.
That's his secret service code name.
If you go to the White House and say Chieftain, they'll think Hunter's, you know, around the corner.
Okay, I'm told that the eminent attorney and friend of the show, Tyler Nixon, is now going to join us.
Wonderful.
Tyler, are you there?
Gentlemen.
There we go.
Good to be with you.
Thank you for joining us.
A modern miracle of Skype, Tyler Nixon, a native of Delaware, a man who knows more about the Bidens than perhaps anybody other maybe than Garrett Ziegler joins us.
He can add a lot of color here because he actually knows some of these characters.
Tyler, welcome back to the Stone Zone.
Always good to be with you, Roger, and I'm so glad you're having Garrett on.
And he is just a fountain, a cornucopia of
minutiae about the Biden crime dynasty family, whatever have you, that certainly I've known for upwards of coming up on 40 years, grew up with, and it's just interesting to hear a lot of names that, you know, some of them, and when Garrett and I communicate, it's people I know, people I went to school with, people I grew up with, went to church with, and it's just a very tangled web that Biden weaves and that Biden's weave.
And you mentioned Monzack.
That was Bo Biden's law partner.
Monzack and Walsh.
David Walsh.
He features prominently in Hunter's surveillance of Hallie's devices because he's convinced in his mind that Hallie cheated on him with David Walsh II, whose father was Joe's law partner.
And of course, David Walsh hates me and has blocked me on every single messaging app.
Well, you know, he was on a reality TV show.
No.
You gotta check it out if you can find it.
It literally, it was like one of these sort of bachelor kind of shows.
And we were like, I couldn't believe, I was like, what the hell is he doing on this show?
It was so weird.
Yeah, it's just, I don't know if you got that through connections to Hollywood, because they don't just choose anybody, but through the Bidens.
But no, they have a lot of obsequious people around them who are as sleazy as they are.
And that's kind of how it is, but I think, you know, why Barack Obama chose Biden as his vice president and why Biden chose Kamala Harris.
They want the person who's around them, the second in command, whatever, to be as sleazy as they are and willing to let anything go, do anything.
And this is clearly the case.
And I just never thought that Hunter Biden would be so degenerate and criminal and treasonous, frankly, in the time I knew him growing up and even in the early 2000s.
It's just insane extent of corruption.
And, you know, I think what it comes down to is this is what you get when someone grows up with absolutely no so-called parental supervision or any sort of, like, nothing they do will ever be held to account because they're the son of Joe Biden.
They're the senator's son.
I remember Hunter was over at my house one late night after the bars had closed with another friend, and we were just, you know, just, like, having nightcaps or whatever.
I swear to God, he put on Fortunate Son, the song, the John Fogerty song.
He played this, you know, I know Senator Son.
We made a three-minute video of Hunter in, let's just say, less than wholesome positions with Fortunate Son by Creedence Clearwater Revival, to setting it as the background music.
It's, it's, it's... Yeah, I honestly think...
I think that it really shifted into overdrive when Bo died.
I think Bo, you know, out of all the Bidens, was probably the most, at least, ethical, as you can call any of them.
I don't think he was never corrupt.
I mean, I think the way he was going to get to office was clearly just, you know, nepotistic, up the ladder with the name.
But I don't think, I don't know that he was involved, and I don't, I'm sure, in fact, I'll ask you this question.
Did you see any evidence of Bo's involvement in any kind of, any of this corruption?
Because I think, I think it went in overdrive, like I said, when he died, because he would have been sort of putting brakes on, probably.
No, it's a very good question.
We have a 90-page section called Influence Peddling, and Bo is mentioned in there, which, the reason why we have this section is because there's so many slimy scenarios that we couldn't prove rise to the level of statute violation.
And so one of them that we talk about is Bo letting off a DuPont heir who raped his three-year-old daughter and admitted to doing so.
He gave him probation.
Then it's been one day in the pen.
But that whole fiasco wasn't in the laptop.
There was no private correspondence about that.
And so to answer your question directly, we found no statute of violation on Bo's behalf because a lot of material from Hunter starts after he dies, except his His email account, but Bo was much more discreet than Hunter.
Bo was like his daddy and didn't put a lot, didn't put long emails together.
Everything was call me.
And that's one of our revelations.
Tyler and I were talking beforehand about what's, what's new.
And we found the phone number that Rosemont Seneca paid for for, it was basically Joe's second iPhone.
And it was a way for Hunter to get ahold of his dad at all times.
And we actually put the phone number in the report for congressional investigators to subpoena.
Because that will contain fruits of many, many crimes.
They'll be talking about Viktor Shokin and the prosecutors in Ukraine on that cell phone, but they don't do that over email.
This is a great segue actually into that question.
So, every American at this point has probably seen the video in which Joe, speaking to some, you know, elitist, internationalist policy group, brags openly about pressuring Zelensky, basically saying, I'm going to withhold a billion dollars in federal aid, U.S.
aid, unless you fire the prosecutor who's investigating my son.
He didn't say it in exactly those words.
And of course, their defense of that has been that Victor Shoken, the prosecutor, was corrupt.
When in fact, I believe it was Shoken was getting at the corruption of Hunter Biden, which is why they wanted Zelensky to call off the dogs.
Can you clarify any of that for us?
It's a very good, very good question.
The prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, was new at that time.
And what happened was Zelensky, who was the beneficial owner of Burisma, paid a $6 million bribe.
This is even a liberal said this, George Kent, that bow-tied, really annoying sort of nerd, Who testified in the impeachment hearings.
He even admitted in unencrypted emails, non-classified emails, that Zlochevsky paid a $6 million bribe to the prosecutor before Shokin.
So what he did was he paid, Zlochevsky paid off the first prosecutor.
A new prosecutor comes in, Victor Shokin, who is opening up a new investigation of Breezma.
This is not my opinion.
He testifies to this in affidavits.
And so what they do is they start freaking out because this new guy isn't taking the bribes and is actually going to start investigating Burisma.
And what is so critical to this is just the news published internal emails, interagency emails from the State Department in October and November of 2015.
And the episode that Joe is talking about at the Council of Foreign Relations with Michael Carpenter, who's now our ambassador to the OECD, and Richard Haass at CFR, which is just too rich.
That episode is going on in December of 2015.
He says, I called Poroshenko and I said, I'm not getting on this plane.
He said, you're not the president.
And he said, you know, go ask Obama because he's, you know, because he'll agree with me.
And so what happened was, you know, in October, in November of 2015, all of these interagency groups say Schoking is doing just fine.
All the interagency groups approve the new billion dollar loan guarantee from the IMF.
But then Joe, Uh, goes against the own interagency group and says, no, no, no, no, no, Shoking is corrupt.
And what happened is the word got up to Joe that Shoking was investigating bereavement again.
So it's actually a weird scenario where all the underlings and all of the, mostly deep staters even, agreed that Shoking was trying at least to clean up the corruption.
They're trying.
But then, they do it, you know, 180 degrees, and Joe is saying, no, no, no, no, Shokin is too corrupt.
That is the line that the PR arm of the CIA, known as the Washington Post, that's their line today.
That Joe was concerned about Ukrainian corruption, when in fact, Shokin wasn't taking the next bribe.
And so, one more figure that I want to mention, especially because Tyler's on the line, and the reason why I want to mention it now is because Kolomoisky is under litigation in Delaware.
It's on hold right now because there are other civil suits.
But there's a $12.3 million wire transfer that comes into Burisma's bank account.
This was released by the Prosecutor General's Office in Ukraine in May of 2014.
And what this means is that we believe that Kolomoisky was the one who actually sent that wire.
Two Burisma holdings, which means that the IMF loan and the American taxpayer pays Ukraine, which then goes into shell companies controlled by Kolomoisky.
Why?
Because he owns PrivatBank and he's the beneficial owner of PrivatBank.
So it goes American taxpayer, IMF, PrivatBank, Kolomoisky, Zlochevsky, Hunter.
And I did take a year and I just followed that chain because I think it's worth our time considering all the billions that are being laundered now.
And so Kolomoisky is being sued in Delaware.
And Kolomoisky is talked about on the laptop.
Not by name, though.
They call him K. Just like Joe is known as JRB and Hunter's RHB.
They all use initials.
So I'll shut up and just say that Kolomoisky is a figure behind all of this.
And they actually banned him from Ukraine.
Now, he holds three citizenships, Cyprus, Israeli, and Ukraine.
And to get more loan guarantees, they had to renounce his citizenship.
But it means nothing.
Because Kolomoisky installed Zelensky.
So funny.
I tell you, when I was, first of all, they referred to Beau as JRB3, because Joe's junior.
And also, I remember in a conversation with my brother, Hunter, referred to Beau as the other guy.
So there's the big guy, I guess, and the other guy.
But I'm curious about, just real quick, whether, you know, it was pretty brazen of Biden to sit and gloat over How he got the prosecutor fired.
I wonder, he said, you know, what was your president behind this?
He said, call him.
And I wonder if that was a bluff.
I wonder if they had actually called Obama, whether that would have gone down the way it went down.
Now, yeah, I'm not sure that may not have undercut Biden at that point, but I wonder if he just said, you know, I can get away with this because I'm just going to, and that's why he was so proud of it.
It was like, he called, you know, he bluffed them and they took it and they, you know, he said, son of a bitch, they fired him.
It's like, you know, he's so proud of his little, His little gambit he did there.
I wonder, though, if it wouldn't have been a big mess that Obama would have been, you know, there would have been riots in Brooklyn.
It's a very good question, and I think Joe is, Joe's key talent, because remember, Hunter quote-unquote went to Yale even though he needed Bill Clinton's help to get in.
Bill Clinton actually called, you know, the Dean of Yale Law School from the Oval Office to try to get Hunter in, and he did after he transferred from Georgetown, but Hunter's not that sure.
Wasn't his poem?
Wasn't that a poem he wrote that they said?
What a joke.
He wrote a poem.
I know.
And I bring this up to say the only real talent that I can find in Joe, and it's not even a virtue, it's just a talent, is his ability to bullshit.
He is a phenomenal bullshitter.
And I think that's made him president today.
Historically, people are going to look back and say, a bullshitter used the greatest bullshitting techniques to get to the presidency.
What a carnival.
Yeah, he would give speeches in Delaware when he's running for Senate back in the day.
He would tell, literally, in the same evening, the anti-war audience, we're going to end the war in Vietnam, and then go to the Hawks audience and say the exact opposite.
I mean, just brazenly.
I mean, not even a reconcilable position.
And this is how he got elected.
He tells everybody what they want to hear.
The point that he is recognized in 1972, he is elected to the Senate as an opponent for busing.
He is opposed to the integration of the Wilmington Public Schools.
He says the schools will be a racial jungle if they are integrated.
So he's a segregationist who claims falsely that he marched with Dr. King.
Nothing this guy ever says is true.
He is a world-class bullshitter.
He just makes it up as it goes along.
Now I had dinner with a former Democrat member of the U.S.
Senate the other day who said that Even before his senile dementia kicked in, he was the most disliked member of the U.S.
Senate.
Because if you were a senator and you needed something, I love that quote.
Robert Gates!
and you went to him because he was on a relevant committee, he would always shake you down for campaign contributions from whoever the interested interests were in your state that were interested in the legislation.
So this guy, he was widely disliked.
He's been wrong on every single major foreign policy issue through his entire career.
He's never been anything.
I will say this about how, so interestingly, real quick, if you go to the full press conference Biden gave when he was pushed out of the race in 87, when the plagiarism was discovered and all this, if you listen to his revelations, that's the most you'll ever hear him talk about if you listen to his revelations, that's the most you'll ever hear
He says, you know, the Republicans came to me and I could have been part of that, you know, in other words, he was almost like he was up for sale and admits how, I'm not some radical, I'm not some anti-war, I was just, you know, I mean, he really just, like... He just wants to be there.
Yeah, he throws his liberal credentials on the bonfire, basically, and it's very revealing.
It's the most truthful things I've ever heard him say about himself.
In 1987, he dropped out of the race, or maybe early 88, but whatever the case, when he was forced out after his short-lived campaign.
So, it's great.
It's very revealing.
And he defeats one of the men who are really one of the giants of the U.S.
Senate.
Jason Hellebobs, a former governor, former U.S.
Senator, was a truly great man.
As was Delaware's other great U.S.
Senator, John J. Williams, who they called the conscience of the U.S.
Senate.
This was, remember, at a time that Nixon is winning Delaware, winning re-election in 1972 by a massive margin.
Boggs essentially caught asleep at the switch, and Biden is race baiting.
He's using the dog whistle in order to get elected.
So, we're waiting.
Go ahead.
Just one quick thing, Roger, because you mentioned 72, and one thing we go into in our report is how union mobsters helped Joe get across the finish line in that campaign race.
And one of the people who's a liberal that we credit at the end of this report is Charles Brandt.
He wrote a book called I Heard You Paint Houses, and it's about Frank Sheehan, who says he killed the famous labor leader, Jimmy Hoffa.
And in that campaign, Joey's campaign got a bunch of union leaders together to go on strike at the paper.
And in those papers, those anti Biden ads weren't delivered.
The weekend before that 72 campaign.
So what we have here is, on his deathbed, Frank Sheehan, the guy who killed Jimmy Hoffa, saying, oh yeah, Joey's first campaign, that was a hoax.
We put them on strike and those papers didn't get delivered.
Apparently, it was about the issues you just talked about.
Joe believes in nothing but Joe.
I have found he's changed position on absolutely everything.
You look at what Donald Trump said in the 80s on trade, it's the exact same thing.
Everybody's cheating.
Everybody's dumping.
We're stupid for not holding them accountable.
He's believed the exact same things on trade and immigration, which is why I love him and why I got the honor of working for him.
Joe is the exact opposite.
And I just think that story about Ed Sheeran, Frank Sheeran, and I Heard You Paint Houses, which is a great book written by a fair liberal writer, should get more views.
Because Joe was installed with fraud back in 72.
It's also a very good movie.
Some people didn't like it.
I thought it was terrific.
I'm afraid we have to leave it there.
Because our next guest is up, but first of all, thanks to Garrett Ziegler, who, by the way, Tyler confirmed his relation to Ron Ziegler, President Richard Nixon's spokesman.
By the way, Ziegler never said anything he didn't actually believe to be true.
He was misled at every step by John Wesley Dean III.
So in those instances where he said things to the press on behalf of President Nixon, he wasn't lying because he had been led to believe they were true by John Dean.
Just to clarify that.
Yeah, he was, he was a young guy, right?
Two years older than me when he got in at 29.
And, um, you know, I, uh, but he worked for one of the best presidents, one of the best, sharpest men we've ever had.
He got totally deep stated and you've written books on it.
That is a fact.
So I thank again, Garrett Ziegler with Marco Polo Foundation for the yeoman work he's done in covering up the, uh, the corruption of the Biden crime family, uh, and my own personal counsel and longtime friend, Tyler Nixon for setting this up and for joining us here today.
Gentlemen, thanks for being on the Stone Zone.
Thank you, Roger.
God bless you.
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