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May 3, 2011 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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May 3, 2011, Tuesday, Hour #3
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And what do you think about putting yesterday's first half hour up on Facebook too?
Put yesterday's first half hour.
The audio.
Coco, go ahead and do that.
Put the audio from yesterday's first half hour up on Facebook along with the audio from today's first hour.
They're both up there.
An AB side by side lesson.
Hi.
How are you?
By the way, folks, I uh uh we've been told here for I don't know now, when did I first two hours ago that the pictures of bin Laden are coming?
When did I first?
I the Drudge headline White House to release bin Laden death photo.
I've said at least uh well, three hours now.
I'm gonna tell you if this photo is not up by 245, you know, basically 38 minutes from now.
I'm calling Donald Trump.
Trump gets things done.
Trump, you know.
Well, when you ask Mark Melman ago, you name one thing Obama's done.
He produced his birth certificate.
And then he killed Obama Osama, killed bin Laden.
So those pictures aren't up.
That's the ticket.
Call Trump.
Uh great to have you back here with us, folks.
Telephone numbers 800-282-2882.
If you want to be on the program, the email address El Rushbo.
Uh what?
They can't release the photos now.
Is that right?
Jay Carney, the White House Secretary, said that it's such a highly classified operation that they can't release the photos.
Wait a minute, they can't.
He didn't say can't, or he did say can't.
They can't release the photos because there was such a highly classified.
Oh, he's giving a reason why it hasn't been released yet.
Carney's doing the White House press briefing now.
So I don't know, the the uh uh the White House narrative of the raid from Jay Carney is now they're calling the SEALs assaulters.
Carney spent almost as much time describing the reverence that the rights surrounding Obama's uh or Osama's uh burial at sea than the attack itself.
Wow, they that that was a 40-minute burial ceremony.
Uh so he's suggesting that they may not release or won't or haven't yet because the operation was so highly classified.
Well, let's get to this assaulters business.
Here is the bite.
This this morning on Fox News Channel's Fox and Friends.
And this is what Brennan said.
He's the White House assistant to the president for counterterrorism.
This is what Brennan said about the raid on Osama bin Laden.
The president had decided that the uh the raid that was conducted on Sunday provided maximum chances for mission success.
Again, getting bin Laden, having that proof.
At the same time he had uh supreme confidence in the ability of the assaulters to carry out this operation successfully and stealthily uh so that they were able to get out without uh engaging any Pakistani forces, and that's how he decided on the raid option.
Okay, there you have it.
See, the president had decided the raid was conducted on Sunday, provided maximum chances for mission success.
Getting bin Laden having that proof had supreme confidence in the ability of the assaulters.
The assaulters, this is SEAL Team Six.
Seymour Hirsch, New Yorker magazine.
This is from a weekly standard reminder.
According to the New Yorkers Seymour Hirsch, it's an executive assassination ring, essentially, and it's been going on and on and on under President Bush authority.
They've been going into countries not talking to the ambassador or the CIA station chief, and finding people on a list and executing them and leaving.
That's been going on in the name of all of us.
So this is again, here you have this regime celebrating SEAL Team 6.
What a great operation.
Only Obama knew the proper way to use them.
And that's why these people owe us an apology, because they Have they did everything they could to impugn, denigrate, destroy, smear every person, every organization, every institution that was working to keep this country safe.
They were trying to destroy, impugn, smear, and now they embrace it.
Now they embrace all of these things.
So that's Brennan from this morning.
Um also on CNN's American Morning, the co-host Kieran Chetry said, Will the public ever see any of that video or the photo of a dead bin Laden?
We have been releasing a lot of information over the last 36 or 48 hours about this operation.
Uh we want to make sure that we're able to do it in a thoughtful manner.
We also want to anticipate what the reaction might be on the part of Al Qaeda or others to the release of certain information so that we can take the appropriate steps beforehand.
So any other material, whether it be photos or videos, or whatever else, uh we are looking at it and we'll make the uh appropriate uh decisions.
You know, about that.
Is it just me or is it odd that they're talking about what a treasure trove of intel they have gathered from the hard drives and the hard disks, the computers, whatever, all the stuff that they collected from that so-called mansion that uh and you've seen it, but the first reports of this thing Sunday night and Monday morning where Osama was living in a mansion.
Come on, folks.
It's a glorified hut.
You just it's a hut for crying out loud.
Mansion.
At any rate, why advertise that you've got this stuff?
Flush who out.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, snurdly.
Announcing that you've got the stuff does not flush them out.
You have the stuff.
You study it, you look at it.
Maybe you've some of the intel that they got uh will disclose the location of the number two, Amon Al Zawahiri.
Well, now Amon Al Zawahiri doesn't have to worry about whether or not we know.
He already knows we know, so he can decamp, he can move, he can whatever.
If you keep that stuff close to the vest, you know, this is the one thing about intel.
You really ideally you never learn how good it is because they never say.
Oh, we've just we've just blabbered all over the world what we've got.
I don't know.
I I think this is I again, I I think in their quest here to claim credit to create this impression of utter uber competence.
And look how good we are.
They're making a tactical mistake by announcing they got all this stuff.
Rather than holding it tight, holding it close, and being able to act on it.
Just don't say anything about it.
After all, how the the rest of the network, whatever, how do they know what's in that house?
How does some terrorist gang somewhere know that Obama Osama's got anything on him?
Now they've all now that now they're all on the alert.
I don't know.
I just think it's uh a tactical error.
One more Brennan sound bite, and it is from this morning's CBS early show, the co-host Erica Hill asked him this question.
Do you have any sense at this point of how active Osama bin Laden was leading up to his death?
I think the latest information is that he was in this compound for the past five or six years.
Uh, and he had uh virtually no uh interaction uh with others outside that compound.
Uh but yet he seemed to be very active inside the compound.
And we know that he had released videos and audios.
We know that he was in contact with some senior Al Qaeda officials.
Yeah.
So um seemed to be very active inside.
Uh what does that mean?
Released videos and audios.
He was in contact with some senior Al-Qaeda officials, but he had virtually no interaction with others.
That's in the same mount soundbite.
Yeah, he had virtually no interaction with others.
We know he was in contact with some senior Al Qaeda officials, but he had no interaction with others.
These people.
They don't have the slightest clue what they say.
It was clapper.
That was the guy who described the Muslim Brotherhood uh as basically just a meals on wheels bunch.
Okay, my good friends, another brief timeout here from the EIB network.
It's an obscene profit timeout, as they all are, and we'll continue when we get back.
do do do do do do do do All right, let's go to the phones.
Los Angeles.
Here on the EIB network.
Hi.
The release of these photos could be one of the biggest mistakes the Obama administration makes, just like the Bolivian military did in 1967 when they shot and killed a filthy, dirty, sickly, highly depressed Che Guevara.
But they made the mistake of cleaning him up and taking a really benign looking photograph of him.
They propped his eyes slightly open.
They created a modern icon by releasing that photograph.
So the Obama administration has to be very careful about anything they release.
You can imagine anything halfway benevolent looking is going to end up on the iPhones of every anti-American person in the world as a rallying cry.
uh...
and and also uh...
we're not sure we can trust some of the uh...
some of uh...
the obama administrations opera check who may have check what our t-shirts hanging in their own closet Okay.
Let me see if I understand this.
We make an icon out of Sheikw where the Bolivians do by releasing death photos of him looking gentle and harmless in repose.
Yes.
And we do the same thing here with Obama.
Osama, if we do the same thing here with Osama with Bin Laden.
You know, I need to set up some electric shock thing every time I I get this wrong.
We set up the same thing with bin Laden.
A benign, harmless looking guy with a bullet hole in his head.
Uh you fear fear we we run the risk of creating uh a what?
An an iconic figure.
People are still wearing Che Guevara t-shirts.
They're waving Che Quevara flags at a laboratory.
But why do you think that really is?
And who, by the way, is wearing the Che Guevara t-shirts?
Are they not a bunch of teenagers and college students?
And aged hippies from the sixties.
No, uh union members in downtown Los Angeles at union rallies, at illegal immigrant rallies, Che Guevara flags, Che Cuevara t-shirt.
Oh yeah, but why are they why are they doing it?
Because it's the revolution.
Uh it it is uh as as described by uh Jorge Castineda, I highly recommend his uh biography of of Che Cuevara Compañero, and also pick up uh uh Mr. Castaneda's Utopia Unarmed, and it's all about Latin America.
Now wait, I am I I'm being told here that the Che Guevara iconic picture on T-shirts is not his death picture that you have described.
No, it's not.
But what it did is it redeemed a an utterly depressed, filthy dirty about to quit Che Guevara after he had orchestrated the kidnapping, assassination, and murder of uh hundreds, if not thousands of people over a period of time, that image of this filthy, dirty, uh really depressed man was completely washed away in that death photo.
And now he's an icon uh uh among the left and organized labor.
What are your thoughts on this?
What uh what about uh would you be surprised if Obama used whatever photo is forthcoming in his campaign posters?
Well, uh if if he goes PC on us, they'll try to make Obama look good.
He doesn't want to uh Osama Osama.
Uh Obama doesn't want to look like a cruel man as president of the United States.
So if they give any deference to uh some redeeming human quality of Osama bin Laden, it'll end up on T-shirts.
It'll end up on every every anti-American's uh iPhone.
I I guarantee it.
And that was the biggest mistake that the Bolivian military made.
In 1967, they happened to clean him up, make him look uh, you know, uh really quite benevolent.
Let me just let I I I here's the thing about this.
I understand what you're saying.
But in in in my view, I think for this enemy that we face, everything's a rally and cry.
And and uh a picture benign bin Laden on t-shirts wouldn't add anything to it, because they're already ratcheted up to maximum hatred.
Anything we do to defend ourselves, anything that we do when detaining and interrogating them, anything we do with disposing of the bodies, anything we do with photos and videos, anything we do with cartoons, Korans, everything and anything we do provokes them.
We provoked them by virtue of our very existence.
This is what people have a hard time grasping.
Our very existence provokes these people.
We are infidels in our existence.
Whatever additional actions we take, uh can't add much to the hate that they are.
They already want to kill us.
They they don't there's nothing that that can change that.
It's why we seek to get them first.
I I understand the the the concern here, but I I think to the extent that uh you worry about him becoming an I can hear already is nothing more can be done to add to that.
Speaking, you don't talk about union people, illegal immigrants and stuff wearing the Che Guevara.
So I I I would contend to you that easily 95% of the people wearing a Che Guevara t-shirt haven't the slightest clue who he was.
He's just a good looking Latino guy.
Just a good looking guy.
You know.
Well, they know he's a leftist something, so forth and so on, but but he's is just uh, you know, he's the kind of guy you'd hope you'd run into in a pool party after you've assassinated some Eastern European leader.
And he was the hitman.
And I's uh he's one of these uh perfect James Bond kind of quasi villain.
You know, as uh I I just think there's a romantic attachment to Che Guevara that has nothing to do with any uh substance from the Los Angeles Times a couple of days ago, small turnout for May Day March in Los Angeles.
The Los Angeles May Day rally to support illegal aliens and their rights to something was a little sad looking.
They found a couple of a hundred people who were not from the press or the police to show up.
But that 2006 rally, if you remember, they claimed to had a hundred thousand people at that one.
There were American flags, union banners, and vendors hawking treats like ice cream and hot dogs wrapped in bake.
Ho ho ho!
Hot dogs wrapped in bacon, somebody call Michelle Obama.
But what was missing from this year's May Day march on a crystal clear Sunday morning were the crowds by 10 a.m.
Only a few hundred immigrant rights and labor activists had gathered at Broadway and Olympic Boulevard in downtown Los Angeles to rally public support for legislation that would legalize the nation's eleven million illegal immigrants.
It's really sad, said Luis Ortiz, an ice cream vendor who has been coming to the rallies for the last 15 years, said of the small turnout.
Man, I've sold very little, almost nothing.
Plenty of police officers on foot and bike patrol were on hand to monitor the crowd.
Last May, galvanized by Arizona's controversial anti-immigration law, about 60,000 demonstrators took to the streets.
This year hardly anybody showed up at the LA May Day.
Well, you mean they're all broke.
They're all always broke.
When do you think these people work?
Who are we talking about here, Snerdley?
They're all always broke.
Just the organizers didn't have gas money.
Put them on the buses.
You've seen the price of it out there.
Uh Duncan in Lincoln, Nebraska.
Hi, and welcome to the EIB network.
Hey, thanks, Rush.
Uh Major Husker Biddows, sir.
Thank you, sir.
And uh, if I can, I just had a comment to make about this whole Osama bin Laden deal.
Um, essentially, what the Obama administration did was they received the intelligence and they acted on it, correct?
And I would argue that that is essentially the president's job.
And for him or any of the other liberals to expect a huge bump out of this.
I think they are seriously misreading the American people.
That is essentially his job.
Nobody hasn't been doing it.
That's one of the reasons why the job that most people expect the president to do hasn't been happening.
But I get your point.
It's sort of like, okay, so a student gets a B. Okay, fine, why go crazy here?
That's what you're supposed to do.
Pretty much exactly.
I mean, if he had come out and said, We killed Osama bin Laden, now we're moving on to I'm an Al Sarhiri, his number two, and Adam Gidon in Yemen in the on down the list of other terrorist suspects.
I think that would uh have elicited a much more positive response.
You know, I uh look, I I understand where you're coming from, Duncan, I really do, but I think you're missing something.
I think you're missing what a gutsy call this was.
I think you're missing.
How only Obama was capable of following through on the intel.
Only Obama was capable of this job.
And that's what you're missing.
You know, this is almost as much as I can take.
MSNBC right now is doing a feature of honoring the Secret Seals team that did the dirty work here on the assassination of Osama bin Laden.
Honoring the Secret Seals team.
Right, Seymour Hirsch, a credited leftist journalist, writes for the New Yorker, referred to SEAL Team Six as Cheney's executive assassination ring.
November 25th, 2009, Fox News.com.
Navy SEALs have secretly captured one of the most wanted terrorists in Iraq.
The alleged mastermind of the murder and mutilation of four Blackwater USA security guards in Fallujah.
And three of the SEALs who captured him are now facing criminal charges.
The three, all members of the Navy's elite commando unit have refused non-judicial punishment called a captain's mast, have requested a trial by court martial.
Ahmed Hassim Abed, whom the military code named Objective Ember told investigators he was punched by his captors, and he had a bloody lip to prove it.
Remember this?
SEAL Team 6 punched this guy in the lip, and they go...
They were court-martialed by this regime.
And now we're getting stories on MSNBC honoring the SEAL team six.
They owe us an apology.
Seymour Hersh, Cheney's executive assassination ring.
So, From the UK Daily Mail, Osama bin Laden's 12-year-old daughter was present when U.S. forces shot and killed her father at a Pakistani compound, it has emerged.
New details about the deadly special forces raid in a Bada Bad emerged as U.S. officials backtracked on a claim made earlier that a wife of bin Laden acted as a human shield in an unsuccessful bid to save his life.
The fresh reports also reveal a bin Laden was unarmed when he was shot in the face.
So it was his daughter.
Could have gotten DNA from from her.
Also, CNN has continuing controversy here over whether or not to release the photos of bin Laden, and apparently what CNN says on a blog is that the most recognizable picture, the picture of bin Laden that would prove beyond shadow of a doubt that it's him, was a picture taken in a hangar in Afghanistan when they got the body back.
Two bullet holes in the forehead around both eyes, that's gruesome and bloody and gory, but it's the one photo that would prove without any doubt that it's actually him.
And so they are proceeding cautiously.
One other thing totally unrelated, but I just wanted to remind you of this.
All these tornadoes and stuff, I want to take you back to a newsweek story, a cover story, 1975, the coming ice age.
1975, they wrote last April, in the most devastating outbreak of tornadoes ever recorded, 148 twisters killed more than 300 people and caused half billion dollars worth of damage in 13 states, and they chalked it up to global cooling back in 1975.
Now we've had a lot of twisters, 300 people dead.
People think it's unprecedented.
Stupid idiot gore's out there trying to say it's global warm news week, 1975, April, global cooling.
And furthermore, evidence that it happened before.
In almost the same devastating fashion.
Poor guy, you know, I've I've I've I've I've met Jay Carney a couple times.
I've talked to him on the phone.
First time I talked to him on the phone, he called, he's at Time Magazine then.
And he called and left a mess he wanted to talk to me.
So I call back.
He picks up the phone, I said, hi Jay, it's Rush Limbaugh.
He was shocked that I would make my own phone calls, rather than have a secretary do it.
And I said, Well, I don't really have a secretary.
You don't?
No.
I don't have that much secretarial stuff, and besides, you know, it's uh privacy thing.
Uh write my own checks, too.
You do?
Yeah.
So we talked about whatever we talked about.
But I ran into him again at a Redskins game back in my ill-fated season as a commentator member of the pregame show at ESPN, our season opener Thursday night game was in Washington.
It was the Jets and the Redskins, and uh we were all invited as guests of Dan Snyder up to his suite to watch the game.
And Jay was up there with his wife, Claire Shipman.
And I walked up and I said, hello, we have it.
You didn't know that?
Yeah, he's married to Claire Shipman.
They've been they've been married for a long, long time.
And I have no idea who no, they're all it's it's a uh what's his name, Gregory, the uh meet the presky.
His wife is a lawyer at Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac, one of the two.
Or lawyer or some kind of executive at Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac.
Oh, I can't well Stephen uh Stephen Reinhart, the judge at the Ninth Circus, his uh wife is Ramona Ripston, who ran the ACLU.
They breed snurgly.
I mean, it's uh it's incestuous.
These people.
Every waking moment is about this kind of stuff.
Anyway, he was always been a very nice guy to me, but I they've thrust him into a situation here I'm told he does not have daily access with Obama.
Unlike Gibbs, who was very close to Obama, that they don't give Carney access yet.
He they send him out there to uh be the face of the administration these briefings, and he doesn't it's like he's afraid to say anything.
A couple of examples here, the press briefing, a reporter said, why why would you not release the photo of bin Laden?
I'll be candid that there are sensitivities here in terms of the uh appropriateness of releasing photographs Of uh Osama bin Laden and in the uh aftermath of this fire fight, and and we're making an evaluation about the need to do that because of the sensitivities involved.
And and we do we review this information and make this decision uh with the same calculation as it we do so many things, which is what you know what we're trying to accomplish, and and does it uh serve or in any way harm our interests and and that uh is not just domestic but globally.
I'm sorry, that's the poor guy is just is wading through the marsh of confusion.
He doesn't know what to say.
They haven't given him an answer.
Yeah, Gregory's wife is name her name is Beth Wilkinson, she's uh executive VP at Fannie Mae.
Well, yeah, snurdly, this is I guess I can't think.
Uh Tim Russert's wife is Maureen Orth of Vanity Fair.
Uh this we're just basic barely scratching the surface here.
Um Dana Bash, the reporter seeing her ex-husband was high up on the staff of Jane Harmon, Congresswoman from California.
She's since divorced and married to John King of CNN now.
That's why they stay away from that town.
And here's Carney again.
Um this is what he says about who was in the room.
I think that uh yeah, in in the room when bin Laden was assassinated.
In the room with bin Laden, a woman, Bin Laden's wife, rushed the U.S. assaulter and was shot in the leg, but not killed.
Bin Laden was then shot and killed.
He was not armed.
And the UK Daily Mail says it was his daughter in there, not his wife.
Details keep changing.
Uh quickly, Jennifer, who's driving to New Mexico from somewhere.
Uh, great to have you on the program.
Welcome.
Hi, Rush.
Just real quick, I want to say I'm not related to anybody important.
As you mentioned, everybody being related to everybody important.
I'm just related to Americans.
Um that uh everybody keeps in inverting Obama and Osama, it made me think of a movie by Bill Murray called Quick Change, where it turns out Bill Murray is a is a criminal, and uh as he leaves, he keeps changing his name to Skipowski to Chapowski, and then the lead detective just realizes oh, he was the bad guy.
And what made me think of it was that man from Texas uh saying that Obama's done worse for Americans in Osama.
In a very real sense, he has.
I mean, I'm driving across the country and gas is 429 a gallon.
Yeah, I know.
Well, every everybody's everybody makes the mistake here confused.
I mean Ted Kennedy did it.
I I want to assure everybody, it is totally accidental here with me, and it's starting to get very frustrating.
You don't know, so you can't hear it.
Every time I screw up, I snurdly is shouting in my IFE, IFB, the correction, and it gets really, really frustrating.
So if if I mistakenly call Obama Osama or verse visa, trust me, this is uh not it's not intention.
How can I confuse them because they're so different?
It's it's we're all in the habit, how many we're for 2008, 2000 we're just saying Obama, how many times a day do we say it?
So that's what I'm gonna say.
I'm gonna start I'm gonna start using bin Laden as uh often as I can.
And let's go back to the phones to North Carolina.
This is Greg who says he's a former SEAL.
It's great to have you on the program, sir.
Welcome.
Hello, Mr. Limbaugh.
Uh the reason I called was, well, first a minor point was that the term assaulter, when used in reference to Naval Special Warfare Development Group, is correct.
Um Naval Special Warfare Development Group is uh and by the way, anything I'm gonna say is available open source.
There's nothing that is um privileged.
All right.
Um anyways, the uh they are organized different than the other uh SEAL teams.
They're organized into assault teams, or at least they were when I was there, which was some time ago.
Uh they do have a different organization because they have a different mission.
Um and and they have a different legal standing than the the regular SEAL teams.
They work uh them and their counterparts in the Army combat applications group work directly for the president of the United States.
They cannot be used on missions unless it is authorized by directly authorized through the president's national security advisor.
They they're not in the normal chain of command.
Is this SEAL Team 6 that we're talking about?
They are what is developed from that SEAL Team, which is now, as far as I know, decommissioned.
But it is an interchangeable term like Delta and CAG.
Is there a SEAL team four, SEAL team five?
Oh, yes.
Absolutely.
But they're they're uh for lack of a better they're conventional SEAL teams, although they're special operations, and not to degrade them, they just have a slightly different mission.
Okay, so assaulter is the proper term.
Assaulter for especially when using dev group, yes, they are organized into assault teams.
Um they're not organized along the same lines as the regular SEAL teams.
Well, I didn't know that.
I'm happy to know this.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, that's that that's fundamental of uh how long ago was it that you served as a SEAL.
Oh, I so I retired um slightly uh uh right before 9-11, and I've been working as a civilian, let's say, um, since then.
But um uh my my my duty um in the teams was from the late 70s to the early 2000s.
I can't imagine the training.
I I I can't imagine the physical gruesome aspects of training you people have to go through to to graduate and actually become parts of that unit.
That's just it's it's amazing to me.
It's fairly rigorous.
Uh-huh.
Fairly rigorous.
Yeah.
But um one thing I would like to say, if you'd permit me, is uh I really believe that uh this decision, I believe that Obama's uh President Obama's hand was forced in this.
And this is really just a a crass political uh decision.
It uh I I when that when I hear people say that this took courage, I I just believe he was absolutely forced into doing this.
Yeah, somebody came and said we got Obama.
Okay, he's got to do something.
Exactly.
Osama, we got Osama's and we got to do something.
Correct.
And he wouldn't have acted, I assure you, the information would have been leaked prior to the election cycle.
Yeah.
And he would have had to have dealt with that.
And and frankly, if if that came to to knowledge late in the election cycle, our next president would be either Hillary Clinton or whoever the Republicans are.
That's a great point.
Greg, I gotta run because of time, but that's an excellent point, and I don't think there's any doubt about it.
We'll be back.
I believe that call, our our former SEAL was exactly right.
He was forced into this.
Look at he dragged these feet as long as he could.
What was it, eight months?
They had five national security meetings.
It was last August when Obama was first told about bin Laden being available to be made fish food.
And finally he did act on it.
So anyway, that's it for today, folks.
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