Clavicular Goes On Piers Morgan and Brett Cooper Triples Down
Brett Cooper and Clavicular clash over NY Fashion Week hypocrisy, with Cooper denying knowledge of his attendance despite evidence. Clavicular defends bone-smashing "looks maxing" techniques—like fillers and intentional fractures—claiming they boost dating success and financial gains (earning $100K/month from streaming). He dismisses critics, insisting aesthetics matter in workplaces and relationships, while mocking rivals like Matt Walsh and Andrew Tate. The episode reveals a culture where self-improvement trumps moral accountability, leaving "simps" and traditionalists exposed as either naive or complicit. [Automatically generated summary]
Welcome to another episode of Pearl Daily here on the Audacity Network.
We're a little bit early today, so I'm gonna torture you with what I'm learning in piano because I do this every day.
So I'm like, I might as well show you what I'm learning.
All right.
Someone said I needed to do real music instead of just the chords.
So it's like fine.
No!
Thank you, everybody.
I mean, I prefer my freestyles, to be honest, even if they're not as like I need to get my pedal plugged in over here.
No Brett Cooper said she wanted to party more than being a mom and got confused.
And we don't look at her like she's in a rom-com.
Okay, because Brett, your audience put a halo on you.
They thought that was something that you'd never do.
And you kind of insinuated it too.
And that's okay.
You probably wouldn't have got married if you didn't do it that way.
So I understand that you did what you had to do.
But I'm gonna make fun of you on YouTube.
Hoes are gonna hoe keep it on the low.
Hoes are gonna ho keep it on the low.
Now everybody was surprised, but I'm not because at some point every woman turns into a thought.
So Sarah Stock and Brett Cooper don't surprise me at all.
Every woman at some point is gonna fall.
Hoes are gonna hoe.
Keep it on the low.
Hoes are gonna hoe.
Keep it on the low.
Now, I'm kind of undefeated when it comes to e-girls.
And some people say, How do you know Pearl?
And it's kind of like betting at some point you'll get fat.
At some point, most people are gonna do that.
And the real problem in the economy is the simps.
They always think their wives will never fall for pimps.
It's the guys that think their wives are special and different.
So, to be honest, when they act the same, it's kind of your fault.
And, like, you're gonna get what you're gonna get.
Oh, sargoon.
Keep it on the low.
Hoes are gonna hoe.
Keep it on the low.
Now every time Pierce Morgan, now every time Pierce Morgan talks, you know that his wife, she's gonna gawk.
And it doesn't surprise me that he's a super simp.
I guess he doesn't have it in him to be pimp.
So his wife goes and embarrasses him on social media.
And do you know what?
He kind of deserves it because hoes are gonna hoe keep it on the low.
Hoes are gonna hoe.
And at least in the red pill we already know.
Now look, every girl's got a little hoe in her.
Every girl's got a little gluck luck and fuck fuck, you know.
So on a balance of probabilities, at some point, the bitch is gonna hoe.
Now some men say that they're special and they're different and that their wife would never do that.
But the highest STD rates in the country are in nursing homes.
So what about after you die?
What about that?
Do you think that you're special and different and it could never happen to you?
Now I haven't learned my blues scales yet.
But one day you are gonna have the blues.
Cause everybody hoes are gonna hoe.
Everybody knows.
Now look, the more a girl says I'm not like that, the more she's gonna throw it back back.
Thank you everybody.
Thank you.
Welcome to another episode of Pearl Daily.
Did you guys enjoy?
Did you guys enjoy the normal song in the beginning?
Hold on one second.
I got this video running.
Okay.
I don't know.
I'm going to, look, I get tortured every day by learning this music theory.
It's so difficult.
For me, anyways, maybe it's easier for other people, but I'm learning all the pentatonics, the majors, the minors, and it's just a lot.
But my thought is like, once I'm done, then I can be done.
So I'm like, I'm going to torture myself with piano like every day for like two years.
And then the rest of my life, I can teach my kids piano.
I don't know.
I would love to do a live show someday, but I might be too old.
I don't know if it's in the cards for me.
Like, like in person.
Like, imagine.
Hoes are gonna hoe.
Keep it on the low.
Hoes are gonna hoe.
Hoes are gonna hoe.
Keep it on the low.
Look.
Do I like Brett Cooper?
Yeah, but she's a hoe like the rest of us, you know.
And anybody that believes otherwise is an idiot.
So, and I don't think she likes her husband that much based on her choices.
Her choices emulate somebody that doesn't like her husband that much, which is okay.
Not everybody can get men.
Like, you know, not everybody, not every woman is going to get a husband that she likes.
She probably thinks she likes him, but there's just things you don't do when you really like a guy.
You know, and that's just kind of life.
Some women, some guys got to be simps and some women got to convince them they're pure and some guys got to be dumb enough to believe it.
And then later finds out she's a whore.
And then she'll do whore things.
And then the simps will say, oh, that's not a whore thing.
So who cares if she's got a wedding ring, right?
Just for my preckle.
$10 for your freckles.
Thank you.
Yeah, I'm learning to play in the F major.
Who am I?
Am I going to choose a husband that I like?
And when do I plan on pro-creating simp or no simp?
Look, I got to be honest.
There was a time where I shared.
You know, I'm not, a lot of these mistakes you make when you're young, right?
So she's making this mistake.
I used to, I was in a relationship previously that I shared.
We shared everything on the internet.
Oh my God.
And that was the biggest mistake I ever made in my life.
So there's some stuff that's just none of your business.
I got to be honest.
You don't know, you know, I'm going to, I'm going to do my show and it's just none of your business.
You know what I mean?
$10 for my freckles.
I don't think, do I have freckles?
I don't have a lot for a ginger.
my mom always told me to stay out of the sun thank you phil Always in the chat.
Pearl will never be with a sim.
I'll alpha widow.
I keep alpha widowing till I die.
Because you know what would happen?
Like, imagine if I was with a simp.
Like, imagine it would go like this.
I'd be like, he would be like, fine, you can, you can do whatever you want.
And I'd be like, what?
Really?
Simp?
Do you know what I mean?
torture a simp for life and look when i start when when you go start hitting the gym i've never stopped hitting the gym okay Okay.
I've never stopped.
I have been in the gym for my entire life.
No, okay, but like imagine you're like, can you imagine dating me with a simp?
Like sometimes I'll get like messages, right?
And I'm just like, why would you say that?
That's like the simpiest message I've ever read in my life.
Like imagine that would just, I don't know.
I wish simps had more self-respect.
I wish more simps would just say, I will not, if I'm not her first choice, I'm not, I'm not doing it.
But men want kids and marriage and a genetic lineage so bad.
They're just willing to like compromise their self-respect, right?
They're just so, they're so willing.
They're like, please take my money.
I just want a woman here so bad.
It's like women aren't even that great.
why do you want a woman here so bad?
12-Hour Shift Fasting00:06:44
Look, my food's always been my kryptonite.
I just love food.
Sometimes I get these like crazy hunger cravings where I just get so hungry.
And I don't get them as much since I've lost weight, but I used to get them like all the time.
And I wish I knew what caused it, but like occasionally I'll just eat and I like can't stop.
Like I'm so hungry.
I can't sleep.
I can't.
Yeah, this is why sometimes I don't like telling you guys about my life.
Pearl, don't do music theory training.
I'm doing it.
I'm like, why are you telling me not to do it?
I'm doing it.
It's just like if food is your kryptonite, do an act.
Like, again, I didn't ask.
Do you guys not think, don't do it?
I'm going to ban you.
I'm going to ban you from the chat.
It's like you get those parasite cravings.
You get those cravings from parasite eggs hatching.
That seems plausible.
Sometimes it feels like that.
How do you kill parasites?
Adid, don't tempt me.
Oh, no, not fasting.
I hate fasting.
That's what people always come back to.
I'm like, I would rather die.
Biblical parasite.
That seems That's that just seems kind of like um okay.
You have to you need to do a cleanse and avoid carbs.
I'm at a decent body fat percentage.
I'm at like I'm at between 21 to 23 percent.
I've kind of got off track the last month.
I'm closer.
I'm probably closer to 23 percent right now, but that's not bad, right?
I want to get to 19 percent.
That's like kind of my goal.
Um, a candida cleanse.
It will okay.
What is it?
Is that like carnivore?
Because I've done carnivore before for like 10 days-ish, and it was a terrible 10 days.
I had a horrible time.
Well, it's I could do breakfast, lunch, and dinner and fast in between.
I just can't stand like people are like do a 12-hour fast.
I'm like, I'd rather die.
This seems like too much work.
No, I'm okay in my workout routine, guys.
I know what I'm doing there.
I'll get into the show today, but we could hang out.
No need to avoid carbs.
No more than a French fry.
Okay, what does he say?
No more than a French fry worth like one single French fry for 90 days.
Oh, God, that's so long.
Maybe after my half marathon.
I'm running a half marathon in April.
All right.
Today, we're going to be reacting to should we do?
I'm going to do Brett Cooper.
Let's go on Twitter first.
We'll go on Twitter, then we'll go into the clavicular interview.
All right, so there's this Anu guy on Twitter that is just driving me nuts.
I just can't believe there's such a super simp.
And I just, it's kind of like, okay, imagine these are the super simps.
These are the guys that say women do not like to be choked.
And then all the real, they all are like, uh, okay, we're gonna watch.
i'm gonna just go through my twitter the last few days okay i thought this was funny All right, watch the difference between men and women working on mid search.
Hi, I'm Nancy, and this is me before my 12-hour shift.
I'm Nancy.
This is me at the end of 12 hours.
This is me before my 12-hour shift.
This is Donna 12-hour shift.
Like, notice how much more the women are.
What's up, Smat?
This is me before my 12-hour shift.
What's up, Smat?
This is me after my 12-hour shift.
He's like trying to look tired.
Like, all the women are like dying, and he's like, he's like trying not to look happy.
Isn't that amazing?
Hi, my name is Alex, and this is me before.
I'm sorry, my 12-hour.
I'm Alex.
Look, the guys aren't even phased.
They're like, nursing's easy.
This is me after my 12-hour shift.
Hi, I'm Nathalie.
This is me before my 12-hour shift.
I'm Nathalie.
This is me after my 12-hour shift.
Hi, my name is Allie.
This is me before my 12-hour shift.
Hi, my name is Allie, and this is me after my 12-hour shift with Celsius and Adderall.
Hi, this is Brittany.
12 hours before my shoe.
12 hours after my shift.
Hi, my name is Candace.
This is the beginning of my 12-hour shift.
My name is Candace.
This is the freaking end of my 12-hour freaking shift.
Like, notice how all the women are walking around.
And the men are just like, yeah, I'm fine.
12-Hour Shift Struggles00:04:29
incredible um oh let's watch sean strickland Oh, fuck me, dude.
Rhonda and Gina.
How fucking whoever thought about that, man?
They're going to be half naked.
I'm like, I say, we'll be half naked.
Maybe make it a little better.
I don't know.
Do you guys care about, do you guys care about Gina and Rhonda?
No.
No, you nobody gives a fuck.
Maybe if you put some oil on it, you know, do some dollar bills.
People might give a fuck.
But really, like, not many people give a fuck about women's MMA in general.
You know, it's like, it's just, it's like the WNBA.
Everyone's like, oh, like, no one gives a fuck about women's sports.
You take the weakest, softest motherfucker here, and you guys would beat up a man of nuns.
Like, fucking the fat guy in the wine shirt.
No offense, you know, I like you, but like, you fuck up Amanda Nunez any day of the week.
We got to remember what women excel at: having kids, being mothers, making food, cleaning the house.
Problem is, we've empowered them too much to ruin society.
Oh, fuck me, dude.
Rhonda.
Sean Strickland.
I was debating going to his show or his fight tomorrow, but I don't know.
I don't have anyone to go with.
Everyone I asked was busy tomorrow, and I'm like, hmm.
Okay, Brianna Chicken Fry is the most, I think this girl's a full-blown narcissist because her and her ex-boyfriend broke up a year ago and she said he was emotionally abusive, blah, blah, blah.
No one believes that.
And he married a girl that looks like her.
And she thinks he got married as like a dig at her.
And I was thinking about it.
And I'm like, Brianna, you realize, like, okay, a lot of times I've been a guy's first redhead, right?
I'm like the first redhead he dated.
And then they go on to date more redheads.
And I'm like, well, I don't think it's because of me.
It's just, you know, they see it.
It's kind of like they see a gap in the market.
They're like, oh, tall redheads, they like me.
Let me keep going for tall redheads.
Or they had a positive-ish experience, you know.
I don't know if you guys know anything about narcissists, but like this is what they do.
Like his whole entire literal wedding.
All that was like a dig at me.
Like, it's so apparent and obvious.
You think he got married as a digitary?
I'm not saying that.
I'm just saying.
You don't know the guy.
And like, that's what's going to get clipped.
I swear to God, next country music festival.
No, no, no, I'm not saying he's going to jump over a fence to fight me.
I'm not saying married.
But like dating her was to get at me.
You didn't see.
Yeah, that's incredible.
Women's narcissism and self-centeredness is just incredible.
Okay, apparently there's a woman who was arrested who ditched her dog at an airport.
Okay.
Incredible.
Actually, I'm going to pull my bag right now because what we're going to do is we're going to walk you back to where your dog's at.
And then we need to issue a citation because you left your dog at the tick counter.
Well, I was trying to rebook my flight.
So you walked out here to rebook your flight?
Yes.
And left your dog there.
Walk out here without your dog.
So she just left her dog.
Those are expensive.
Oh my gosh.
Oh, he's so cute.
Oh no.
Oh Evie magazine called the internet incels.
That was like women are incredible.
All right.
Why Christian Men Misunderstand00:15:21
Blair Anderson says i'm seeing more matchmaking applications from non-religious men who want to date Christian women because they believe Christian women make good wives.
The problem is that most Christian women I speak to want to date practicing Christian men.
The guys react, okay, tell her I'm telling her I'm okay with raising kids as Christians, and maybe I'll even attend church with her.
And she said, not exactly the same thing.
Allie comes in and she says, this is shockingly common and the biggest thing to watch out for as far as Christian women.
A lot of men like the idea of Christian women, but want nothing to do with Christ.
They will not be able to lead you or your family as you should run away as fast as possible.
Nuke comes in and he says, I prefer naive men that will forgive my past.
Allie comes back in and gaslights further.
I'm sure there are women like that.
The others who are fine with a guy who has a past as long as he came to Christ.
And there are many with no past.
And then they just tweet a picture of Sarah Stock.
Okay.
A lot of you guys criticize me because I don't rate a lot of the e-girls as 10 and I say they're mids.
Sarah Stock, look at her, cute, but mid.
These are tens.
These are examples of women in the eight to ten range, right?
We never see them.
They're like a dying breed nowadays.
Look at that.
Look at that facial harmony.
She's beautiful.
Look at do you see how beautiful these women are?
You never see them now.
Do you see how mogged I am?
Right.
I'm a mid, maybe a lower mid.
This is an eight.
This is eight to 10, eight to 10 range.
Look how beautiful.
Like that is that's what they took from us.
I'm a high seven.
Oh my god.
Shut up.
A high seven is just below these women.
This is why most people are mids, right?
These women are not sixes.
Okay, that's ridiculous.
These are tens.
these are eight to tens okay let me keep going Let's see what else.
I mean, they ruined Halo better than that.
And you know, Paramount's cool.
I mean, they fucking ruined Halo better than that.
You know, they made it gay.
Rhonda and Gina.
How fucking whoever thought about that, man?
They're going to be half naked and might be Make it Bull better.
Because Ronda Rousey can fight.
That bitch can fight.
I think she lost a few fights to her ex, but I mean, bitch could fight.
I like Gina.
She's like super conservative.
She was hot.
You know, I was like a kid when she fought.
I may have jerked off to her once or twice, but dude, I was like, what, like 12?
You know, I was jerking off when I was 12.
Nobody gives a fuck.
Maybe if you put some oil on it, you know, do some dollar bills.
People might give a fuck.
No one gives a fuck about women's sports.
You take the weakest, softest motherfucker here, and you guys would beat up a man of nunez, like fucking the fat guy in the wine shirt.
No offense here.
And there's nothing wrong with women.
I mean, they do great things.
You know, they fucking cook, they clean.
There are no women in prison, right?
Like, that's why I didn't go to fucking prison.
Knowing I'm gonna have to go be surrounded by a bunch of fucking dudes for 30 years.
I'm not doing that shit.
Problem is, we've we've empowered them too much to ruin society.
Look at the NFL, dude.
You had that.
I didn't want to say the faggot's name because, like, you know, I'm talking the halftime go, the halftime show guy, the Puerto Rican, right?
Puerto Rican, bro.
Yeah, that fucking faggot.
Like, dude, it is so crazy that this is America now.
Like, back in the day, dude, the NFL was like, the NFL was the fucking standard of being a fucking man.
I think they all get together around a table and say, you know what, guys, how do we fucking ruin this sport?
How do we gay it up?
How do we fucking ruin it?
Why don't we bring a gay foreigner who doesn't speak fucking English and have him perform it?
Man, hockey is like the last man sport.
An NHL player came out as gay.
Oh, no shit.
Well, that guy's definitely gonna beat him in locker room.
You said that guy's gonna get beat up.
Illness is real.
And you know, if you fucking like the way I feel about gays, it's very simple.
If you're gay, dude, go suck cock.
Like, dude, I want to know what it's like, man, right?
Like, I like pussy.
Like, I have no idea what it's like.
I actually feel bad for the gays.
Can you imagine being a dude waking up and be like, I want to fuck at the dudes?
I don't know what that's like.
It's clearly mental illness, but I support it.
You know, sometimes you got to just, you know, let your retarded flag fly.
You know, trans is too far, though.
If you want to, if you want to cut your dick off and fucking call yourself fucking Susie and yeah, I don't fuck with that.
This might be a really bad segue, but I saw some pictures of you training with a little boy.
How'd that happen?
What was that like?
What the fuck?
Relax, Epstein.
This ain't the White House card.
Relax.
I don't know if this makes me racist, but every time a big black man shows up to the gym, especially on a boxing day, I just assume that you know how to box.
Weird, man.
So when you're talking about Jamaica going to the White House, you know, he's best friends with like a fucking warlord dictator that murders people.
So yeah, it wouldn't surprise me with this administration puts a fucking terrorist on the White House card.
Fine ass ESPN reporter.
I mean, you know, dude, the one that's like, the ones that's like, how did you get this job?
I could probably connect some dots.
You want people to give a fuck, making an attractive blonde girl.
I'm like, everybody gives a fuck.
You get a little requished down in Comden gets kidnapped or fucking.
Oh my gosh.
England is so funny.
Oh my God.
Okay.
All right.
This is an example.
So the simps come out and they say some of the women are different, right?
I had to cheat on your boyfriend with one guy in the entire world.
It would have to be MGK.
I would never cheat on my boyfriend.
He's the love of my life.
Now they're all saying, oh, she's awesome, but you have to understand.
I've seen the women that say things like that still cheat on their boyfriends.
So this means nothing.
I just want you guys to know.
You got to stop.
Like, I don't understand why men take what women say seriously at all.
You know what I mean?
It's like now she gets all this clout, whatever.
I guess Lily's come out because I said she probably banged a black guy.
Um, because usually racist women got racist because they banged a black guy and saw what black guys are like.
Sorry, sorry, fellas.
Um, I'm not conservative, I'm a white nationalist.
I want law and order and brown people out of the country.
That's it.
I'm not trad.
In fact, I'm despicable, probably the worst person on the internet.
I do not pretend to be good, more moral standard for anyone to look up to.
I hope that answers any questions.
Yeah, now this is called backtracking.
Nuke puts a phenomenal tweet.
He says, Like every other conservative influencer, the men in your audience are most likely sexually inexperienced and expect you to live up to the perfect version of you they've built in their heads.
And you need them because they pay you in views, likes, clicks, etc.
You're feeling the pressure of letting them down to the point where you're self-deprecating to your audience because you're not perfect.
This will never end.
And you feel like every decision you make, whether romantic, political, or anything else, will be under the microscope of your fans.
Typing the N-word on the internet seems cool.
Um, to is it cope for your perceived moral failings, being a single mom, being unmarried?
But those are normal situations that happen to normal people.
I can't imagine having to keep this up for so long.
You should forgive yourself for not being perfect and realize your audience will never be happy unless you pretend you're their flawless champion.
Good luck.
Yeah.
God, he just wrote such good tweets.
Okay.
Oh, I hate this guy.
This guy, I think I just can't stand this guy.
Apparently, he's running for governor in Florida and he's just a super simp.
Look at this.
That's the affordability side.
Second, we got to do strong families.
How do you fight for strong families?
You have to incentivize marriage.
You have to stop disincentivizing marriage.
Look, a single mom is going to get more in food stamps than a mom who's married.
So, what are we?
What message are we sending?
Stay single, get divorced, you'll get more money.
So, Thomas Soule, my favorite economist, always said, Show me the incentive and I'll show you the outcome.
The incentive is for people largely to stay single, to not get married.
Yeah, so he doesn't understand what's happening is we've given women freedom, and women are fighting to not reproduce with average men.
And that is what we're biologically programmed to do.
That's how society survived.
It's you know what I mean?
If I'm gluck-glucking my husband and he gets killed by the stronger tribe guy, I would die out if I was loyal.
If I said, No, sir, I'm not gluck-glucking you, I'm gluck glucking him only, and you killed him, and I'm loyal.
No, uh, women will just say, Hey, um, like I used to think I was like, Oh, I would never do OnlyFans, I would never do sex work.
And the older I got, the more I thought, you know what?
I've never known what it's like to be that desperate because I have a father to fall back on.
I don't know what it's like, right?
So, like, if I was in the old days, I would probably have to glut gluck to survive, you know.
Um, and that's you know, just kind of how it is.
And since we can't, since men aren't dying, like they are, they're killing themselves, but they're not like historically, a lot of men would die in war and stuff.
So, because of that, um, because of that, um, yeah, now women are doing the same thing, just in a different way, and I'll tell you Divorce, so what he's gonna say is, Oh, it's just the incentives, that's why women aren't getting married.
I'm like, you could put every incentive to for women to have children and kids, you could give them cash money and they'll still say no.
It's a tragedy.
Um, I donated to the divorce doc.
What's the deal?
You okay?
So I know.
I mean, we're still raising money for it, but we did have raised enough that we are working out the contract with the documentary team.
So we're having some, you know, disagreements, I guess, with the contract.
So that's kind of what we're doing right now.
So we're making a contract with the lawyer.
You know, there's always steps that come up.
That's why we're still raising money because it's like now I'm probably going to have to pay a few grand to the lawyer, right?
There's always extra costs that just come up, but it's getting done.
Look, if you're in an abusive relationship, I will always support your right to exit that relationship.
Well, yeah, but you got to ask the question first: Is she abusing also?
What is abuse?
What a simp simps ask no question, they just believe they want it, they want female attention so bad.
But if you cheat on your partner, I'm gonna reform the divorce laws so you give up 100% of everything.
No questions asked.
If you are an adulterer in our state, bruh.
Let me get this straight.
So now women can withhold sex in marriage and the guy can't even cheat in peace.
Incredible.
And then there is a divorce.
You as the adulterer, you as okay, well, the video is too quiet.
Okay, well, the sound's all the way up.
i don't know what to tell you will lose full custody and will lose full claims to any assets in that marriage i mean that's not really a fair loss So if a guy has a house and he works for 20 years and he gets Poonani one time, now she's entitled to all of his cash.
It's incredible.
With all due respect, the reporting from the Daily Mail yesterday makes clear that Congressman Donalds did commit adultery when he hit on Erica Donald's and then was later divorced by his wife, Bisa Hall, in 2002.
It applies to everyone, male or female.
Simps are gonna simp.
Let's bring in the pimps.
Like, do you see?
Look at sometimes I'm just like, I can see why women are so awful.
Because imagine this is the leadership you're under.
This level of simpery.
I think simping has got to be worse.
What's worse?
A woman cheating or a man simping?
I know you guys are going to say a man, like a woman cheating, but I don't know, man.
Do you know what?
Because sometimes the man's such a simp, he gets cheated on.
It's like, well, I kind of understand.
I'm not saying it's right, you know, but it's like you have no standards for yourself as a person.
What did you accept?
What did you expect to happen?
Right.
And then the simps, they defend the other, like, they defend all the women and they're like the enforcers for the women.
Like the women would get away.
They wouldn't get away with so much if it wasn't for the simps enforcing.
Know it's just incredible to me.
If you enter the covenant of marriage and then you cheat, you're giving up everything.
You don't have any rights because I've seen up close, not in my own family, but people close to me who have suffered through the stress, the pain, the affliction of divorce.
You know, the GOP said, and you just believed the woman, huh?
Men like him make my blood boil.
I think it's because I'm not biologically, I'm biologically like made to be repulsed by this by simps, right?
Um, but like I looked at this and I'm like, I got so pissed.
I'm like, fuck you, dude.
We don't have privilege.
I actually disagree.
I have a lot of privilege.
I have the privilege of growing up in a two-parent household.
I didn't have to have my mom and dad fight about who's going to have custody this weekend.
Matt Walsh's Anger00:04:43
I didn't leave my homework at my mom's house and then have to give that excuse to my teacher on Tuesday morning.
Divorce is wrong.
Adultery is a moral sin.
And if you commit it, no, we're not going to arrest you.
But if you are a man and you cheat on your wife in Florida, get ready to lose everything.
I will not tolerate that in our state.
We will stand up for the dignity and the sanctity of marriage in Florida.
What a fucking fuck you, dude.
Really?
Women are out here on social media with OnlyFans.
And you, fuck you.
You are just a super.
I just can't.
I can't live in this society anymore.
All right.
Then we got Matt Walsh, another super simp.
So Brett Cooper decided to go party with influencers instead of watch her kid.
Nobody would care, but she not only decided to throw her marriage in all of our faces.
Okay.
I'm going to show you what she did.
Nobody asked for a people magazine doing all that, right?
Nobody asked for this.
You decided to build your brand off of marriage and you accepted the marriage dollars, right?
Now you're mad because everybody saw you do this, right?
brett cooper look at she's looking like this at another man She's all dolled up for another guy, wears nothing, no makeup at home, and a little makeup for her show.
And then thirsts over him.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
And Brett's going to, if you want to say hi to Brett, Brett, what's up?
All right.
Now, thanks for coming.
Now look at her eye contact.
It's like, bruh.
Now the Simps don't understand this because they've never had a woman look at them like that.
So they're like, what's she's not doing anything?
She's just saying hi.
It's just incredible.
Just incredible.
Incredible.
So now we go to Matt Walsh.
Now the internet gets mad because she made a deal with the devil and she said, I'm going to make money off of my husband.
I don't care about privacy.
It's about me, me, me, right?
It's just another modern woman as we are.
She's like, I care about building, I care about looking like a good person.
I care about making money off of my chores.
I care about making money off of my husband.
And I'm going to go out of my way to tell stories that indicate I'm a good person because I'm married.
Matt Walsh does the same thing.
They throw it in all of our faces.
They go around saying, I'm married, I'm married, I'm married.
But then they continue.
Matt is publicly disrespected by his wife, who says her only purpose is to troll him on Twitter.
He publicly says he's not allowed to smoke in his house.
Brett Cooper publicly flirts with other men, and they both gaslight us and pretend that we're not seeing what we're seeing, even though none of us are stupid.
and i predicted divorce for both of you so um now he's gonna run cover for her because in a lot of ways this is gonna remind him of a lot of the stuff that his wife probably does And he's got to cope.
He's got to pretend he's the man because he's ego invested in his marriage working out.
And yeah.
So what they're going to do is they're going to accept all the money.
They're going to take the money from all the people and then get mad at you if you notice that they're just like the rest of us.
How's life out on the Alamo Farm?
It's going well.
I just watched one of my escaped pigs run by the window actually before we launched.
I don't care about your pigs.
We're going to skip ahead.
Pork.
We're just going to be giving it to family.
Okay.
Don't care.
The ducks.
They're obviously they're not going to like fuck.
Okay.
Don't care.
Ghosties.
I was hoping you would tell me that the farm is a total disaster.
You hate all of it.
You regret ever doing it.
And then I could triumphantly show that to my wife, but you sound unfortunately, you sound happy, which is not what I wanted to hear.
Insulting the Fashion Show Audience00:12:12
Do you still have, do you still have your goats?
I haven't checked in on her lately on the goats.
Yeah, we have two, we have two goats.
That's it.
They don't do anything.
They don't do anything.
They're just there.
Okay.
So now they're going to, okay, whatever.
And of course, they couldn't answer.
So typical.
No.
What?
So I wanted to ask you before we before we, you know, you know, we've talked about Pendragon and all that, but you are in the middle.
Since we're talking this week, you're, I do have to ask, you're kind of in the middle of a major controversy.
And the controversy, if you don't mind, because the controversy is that you, from what I understand, is that you said hi to someone.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I said hi.
And that was, that was, that was rather scandalous.
Wow.
Yeah.
Oh, no.
Scandalous.
So I was invited to a fashion show for New York Fashion Week from a designer called her name is Elena Velez.
She is super cool.
She's on the right.
She's very much a disruptor in the fashion industry.
And I learned that she had been a fan of the show and invited me to come see her New York Fashion Week show.
And it was a great experience.
I was super excited about it.
Like she's remarkable.
And it was just like a very, very different world than I'm used to being in.
So that was very fun.
And I went with Brittany Hugo Boom from E magazine.
I know you know her.
And so we were there.
And after I had been invited, I learned that Clavicular, the look smacks are that he was going.
Which is a lie, by the way.
She's lying.
Yeah, she's lying.
You know, it was later proven that she did, in fact, know he was coming, but she's going to gaslight for him to be walking in the show.
And so that obviously was hilarious to me.
And I was like, okay, this is going to be a great experience.
And it'll be funny to see him in person.
And obviously.
Mind you, she said it'd be funny to see him in person after he said that he wanted to bang her and disrespected her husband.
You know, like I had made an episode about him before he really even like took off in the X space, I would say, with like all of our people knowing who he was.
I've made a video being like, this guy is insane.
This whole look smacksing craze is being taken.
Yeah, but she's like smiling and, you know, totally infatuated with this guy.
Into a completely unhealthy level.
The kid does, you know, meth.
He, he does meth so that he can.
Imagine you're going to lecture a man on meth while simultaneously having your husband watch your kid while you go party with influencers.
That's just incredible.
That's incredible that you think you at the audacity.
Get through fasts.
He wears makeup.
He does this thing.
Oh, gosh, I don't remember what it's called, but where he like hops around from like books to books on the floor to like make himself seem taller if he's with a woman.
Like it's just all of this insane stuff to try to make himself be super attractive.
That's the whole goal of like looks maxing.
So I done an episode about that.
And then I had talked about him hanging out with like Sneko and Fuentes and all these guys.
And so I got lumped into this conversation, but I had been pretty harsh.
And so when he was there after the show, I was like, you know, I should probably go say hi to him because he acknowledged that I was there.
I wasn't watching his stream, but I knew that he knew that I was going to be there.
I was like, okay.
So not only she had to say hi to him in front of all the cameras, which is like incredible to me.
Like, why didn't you, why you guys throw this in our faces, right?
Why don't you just do it privately?
Do you know what I mean?
Like, why don't you just interact privately?
You know, oh, and the photo shoot made it worse.
So there's a girl in the chat that here's the thing.
A lot of women do these behaviors.
And so they want to defend other women that do these behaviors that are terrible.
Right.
And I don't really care if you do terrible things, but just don't throw it in my face, right?
Or do.
I mean, I'll be employed forever.
So Brett Cooper does a photo shoot and does like provocative photos as a married woman.
Right.
I don't really care, but you know, we're just, if you're going to get married, you know, part of getting married is putting the provocative photos away, right?
That's, you know, you're not supposed to do that anymore.
That's, that's, um, that, that's part of it, you know?
And it's like, so these people, I hate them because you guys take religion, you take Christianity, you make all this money off of it.
And then you also throw in our faces, you going against the religion and doing things that are the opposite.
Like you put it in our faces.
And then when we notice, you gaslight for eternity.
And that's why I hate influencers.
I just hate them.
I hate them with a passion.
Brett Cooper, I'm telling you, as soon as she did the Daily Wire thing, I became a hater.
I was, I was a Brett Cooper stan and then I did not like the way she left the Daily Wire.
And now I'm a hater.
Now I'm absolutely a hater.
You're going to probably just go say hi and be polite because I just like ripped him to shreds two weeks ago on my show.
And I try not to be an absolute.
And so, yeah, I went up and I said hi and I was with Brittany.
Yeah, but okay, you ripped him to shreds.
Did you apologize?
Did you apologize?
Then recognized a friend of mine, Liv Schmidt, who I.
Okay.
Man hits on you.
You go say hi to him.
That's what happened.
I had talked about on comment section a while back and who I helped out when she had been canceled a few years ago off of TikTok.
And that was the entire interaction.
I said hi.
I shook his hand.
The internet lost their mind because Alex was not at the fashion show with me.
They thought that it was like disgusting that I would say hi to them.
Look, all these people have acknowledged that a lot of affairs start at these events.
This is no different than the club.
High status men are at the club.
High status men are at these events.
You are putting yourself in a position with a face full of makeup full of high status men, right?
You know, men, when they see you all dolled up, they that's an invitation, you know, whatever, right?
I go to the gym all the time, so I'm not judging, you know what I mean?
Like, but why?
Why do you have to throw this in my face?
Like, it's almost like you guys are so arrogant that you do like a victory lap.
It's like, let me throw it in all your fan in all your faces and then get mad when you notice.
Like, it's not like somebody just like took a picture of her at the event and it was a total misunderstanding, you know, like, no, it was you went in front of, you did it in front of all of us.
You did it in front of all of us and then get mad that we noticed.
It's like, well, you could have just not, you know, this individual on that.
They just want it all.
Like, they're such arrogant people.
They literally want it all.
They want everything.
They want the ability to use the religion for money, use the marriage for money, do it in front of all of your faces and not have you noticed.
It's just incredible the arrogance of these people.
So fucking arrogant.
They think they're better than everybody else when they do the exact same things.
I smiled.
They like zoomed in on my face as I shook his hand and then took three steps back and was talking to my friend.
Anyway, it was a whole scandal.
So yeah, I'm a terrible person, apparently, because I said hi to him.
What?
Fuck you.
I hate women.
This, when I hear this stuff, it's like you know, you didn't say what the criticism was.
You're downplaying it.
You're gap.
Fuck you.
I, I, oh my God.
I can't stand these people.
Yeah.
Brett marries a millionaire, claims to be a trad wife, goes to an event and is googly-eyed with another guy.
Um, and I had a lot of people saying, like, why wasn't your husband there?
Like, do you, do you think my husband would want to be at a fashion show?
No, he like did not want to be there.
Um, right.
So a traditional woman just wouldn't go because, and I know traditional women, right?
So they would just say, oh no, like, what's the point?
You shouldn't be married.
That's what I'm saying is you should not be married because you're making fun of the institution of marriage.
You have no intention of being a wife, right?
And that's fine.
There's nothing that says you have to be married, but you want all the status and the social credibility of getting married without having to do anything to be a wife.
Belbo says I were laughing and he was like, Brett, like husbands only get invited to fashion shows if they're gay rappers.
Like this is normal.
Anyway, so that was that was the scandal.
And people have been talking about it for days now.
And now she has another chance to defend her husband because everyone called her husband a cuck, right?
Nothing.
Nothing.
What's the Anton Mika situation?
Fill me in.
I don't, I don't think I'm at it.
And that was the, that was the end of your interaction with this guy.
That was it.
That was the end of my interaction.
Unfortunately for the internet, I'm sure that they want more controversy, but no, that was literally it.
But it doesn't mean it like it, it's about planting seeds for later, right?
So it doesn't mean you'll cheat now, but in three years, kids in preschool, who knows?
Well, one way that I avoid these kinds of things is I just don't say hi to anyone ever.
I'm not nice to anyone ever.
So that's that's one, you know, that's that's the advantage of being aggressively antisocial.
Okay.
So, and you know, a lot of times people that have this mentality when they say, oh, I don't party, I don't do this, I don't do that, it's because they have no self-control and they don't trust themselves in those situations.
It's why I don't eat out a lot and I spend like my life in the gym is because I don't trust myself, right?
So, a lot of times it's actually people that have less self-control because they can't handle themselves in those situations.
We all know that person that just doesn't go to the bar because you know they'll be an alcoholic.
I don't have alcoholism in me.
I don't mind a drink or two, but I can throw a few shots back.
I can get drunk and have fun.
I'll never be an alcoholic.
I just don't have that in me.
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Okay.
Doug MPA, do you want to come on and tell me about the situation?
Is that what you're saying?
He's telling me about the Anton Mika steps are just now coming across my, like making onto my radar, things like looks maxing.
Okay, now they're going to talk about other stuff.
I mean, this is just insulting to the audience.
You are insulting your audience's intelligence.
just being honest here um okay let me pull up the clavicular thing um
What Happened With Anton?00:13:23
Okay, yeah.
I don't, before we start doing the clavicular reaction, I'll bring Doug MPA on because I don't actually know what this is.
Key.
I hope I get a girl one day.
Why?
Why?
It's like saying, I hope you get tortured one day.
One day, you know, some men like torture.
If it happens, it happens, but you know.
What up?
My net.
That never gets old.
So, so I'm going to put a couple of links in the chat thing here because, so, so, pretty much what happened was: so, I just found out about this today.
Um, you know, I've been so busy and I've been going down the rabbit hole.
So, red, red cup uh, talks with Mika.
I'm gonna put her channel so you can see what this girl looks like.
She is very attractive, and she started kind of in the conservative space because she is a black female that is pretty, and she is a conservative.
Can you put it in the stream yard chat?
Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I can do that.
So, um, then she kind of started going into like the whole black YouTube kind of you know, black manuscript thing, and she's been going on Anton Daniels.
Now, guys, let me say it, you know, I support Anton Daniels.
You know, he's a friend of the channel, so you know, he's a real friend of him, yeah, exactly.
Uh, you know, you know, I'm not gonna rinse him out, he's a he's a good guy, and him and I have the same opinion on things.
I'm just saying the um, yeah, so that's her right there.
What would you go to her picture?
And what would you rate her on a scale of one to ten?
Adjustable six.
Okay.
So, um, apparently they've been traveling a lot together and they're both married.
Maybe almost a seven.
So, um, and and so when when that whole thing popped off with Corey Holcomb, she was there with him, right?
Okay.
Like, apparently they've been, you know, according to who?
Like interwebs.
And so there's video of them being in all sorts of uncompromising positions and stuff like that.
She went on Tasha Kay and she got rinsed out in an interview.
And then she went on another guy's platform.
Just got rinsed out.
So there's this whole thing, you know.
So like example, here we're going to give Tasha Kay a little bit of attention here.
But this is kind of what the Tasha Kay interview looked like.
Okay.
I'm sorry.
I need to put it in the private chat here, but that's the most.
It's okay.
I got it.
Okay.
And once again, guys, we are friends of Anton Daniels here.
This is just what's going on on the interwebs.
Sorry to see him for business.
I went to Detroit.
Correct.
Okay.
So that is, and then you guys went to a Detroit basketball game and sat courtside.
So there's pictures and photos and videos of all this going down.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, they sat courtside.
I mean, I don't know.
Guys will just bring.
Okay, maybe we'll see.
Okay.
And you did other things out together on a business trip, correct?
No.
So from there, went right back to the studio.
And his wife didn't mind you going along to the game.
No, I told you his wife understands his business dealings and she's there 90% of the time, if not 9% of the time.
She's just usually off camera.
But she wasn't with you that day at the game.
No, she was not.
Your husband could take another woman to a basketball game?
Okay.
I mean, it's probably inappropriate, but I don't know if they hooked up.
I'm a little biased, though, because I like Anton.
I know, I know, I know.
So, so I don't want this to get clipped.
I just want you to look, man.
We support Anton Daniels over here.
Anton Daniels and his wife are happily married.
You know, I'm sure she knows exactly what's going on.
Could it have perceived bad?
Could it have been perceived as bad?
I mean, maybe, but look, don't get in Anton's business.
You know, him and his wife probably had something worked out.
You know, Mika and her husband, I don't know.
I'm citing, I'm airing on Anton's side.
Let me tell you what the difference is.
I bet this was something they did privately, right?
And someone just took a picture?
Or is it, did they put it in everyone's faces?
Well, they were kind of, I don't know enough.
So, you know, I'm not going to speculate, but it's enough where she felt like she had to go on Tasha Kay's platform and a couple of other platforms to correct the situation.
So they're calling it like an emotional affair and all these different things, whatever.
Look, freaking, you know, once again, Anton Daniels, if you see this, we support you over here.
We're just responding to the chat when someone says, have you seen the situation?
Once again, I think that everything is good between Anton and his wife.
He wouldn't ruin his happy home, you know, whatever.
If I see a guy with a with a beautiful woman like that, if I don't hear anything from his wife, I assume that they got something worked out, period.
Yeah.
I mean, they probably cross lines, but I don't know if I'm biased, okay?
But I just, I don't think, like, it wouldn't be abnormal to like on a work trip.
Sometimes you get invited to events and stuff.
Someone's saying she was in his hotel room at 3 a.m.
I'm like, okay.
Yeah, well, that's that.
That's not a good look.
But I'm like, for me, the court, the tickets, that's not really a damning.
That's not that damning because I don't know how to put it.
Like in cities, there are just people that have like tickets to things and they just invite a bunch of people.
So that's not that abnormal, but it was inappropriate, I'm sure.
But I don't know.
So, yeah, so like, like here, go to go to this one.
So apparently, this was okay.
I'm going to put a link in the thing here and go to 28 minutes and 42 seconds.
This is what they're talking about about being in a hotel room together.
Go to 28 minutes and 42 seconds.
So she's talking.
And we decided to use our judgment.
And let me say this also.
Sir.
Let me say this also.
Let me say this also.
Oh, no.
Sir?
Let me say this also.
Mika stayed in pocket.
She followed my lead.
She stayed.
She ain't doing.
Stayed in pocket.
Why did you guys have to throw this in our faces?
Why?
She followed my knee.
Okay, I'm done.
I don't want to.
I like Anton too much to cover this too.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Why did you do this to me?
Yeah, I'm going to say it one last time.
We are Anton Daniel supporters over here.
If I don't hear nothing from his wife, I'm assuming everything is good.
You know, apparently she said that she's in her relationship with Anton Daniels.
You know, I'm just saying what's out there.
Once again, Robias over here.
Anton Daniels, we got your back, man.
Look, this is none of my business.
I'm going to move on.
All right.
Any other questions?
I'm going to move on.
I'm dropping off.
All right.
Thanks.
Why?
Look, this is why I don't go to these events because I can't be friends with too many of these people.
I don't.
It's way easier to analyze.
Oh, my God.
Okay.
All right.
Who's next?
We're going to watch Clavicular on Pierce Morgan.
All right, we're going to watch this and we're going to move on with our lives.
What do I call you?
I usually just go by Clav if you want to keep it chill.
Clav, let's keep it chill.
You're with the number one looks maxer.
You know, maybe some of it could be attributed to charisma's generational run would not have been possible without the looks.
You mentioned your charisma.
What another phrase is gestur maxing?
Sounds definitely humor.
You know, someone cracking an egg on their head and then saying, oh, look at me.
I'm such an idiot or something.
To be fair to Anton, after that big fight with Corey, it was a publicity moment.
And that was his show.
And it does make sense that she would use the same streaming setup.
I know.
Look, okay.
I just cooked Brett for an hour.
So this is going to sound so hypocritical.
I just know Anton, and he's like a nice guy.
Like, I could totally, like, if I was in town and he was like, oh, I have an extra ticket to a game, quartz, I could just see him.
I don't know.
There's guys like that in every city, and it doesn't necessarily mean you're like hooking up with them, right?
Like, it, oh my God.
But it's just the clip, like, it looks bad, right?
And they probably like, there is probably a little bit of tension, right?
He's good looking.
She's good looking.
Like, there is probably some tension, right?
They said, Pearl, stop.
I know, I'm going to dig this.
I'm going to make it worse.
But, like, I don't know if he'd actually do that, just like knowing him.
Like he, you know, oh my God.
Oh my God.
I just don't think anything I'm going to say is going to make it like look better, but I am not.
I'll just say this.
I'll just say this.
Because I know him, I'm not really convinced that it was anything more than a little flirtation.
I don't know if he would risk that.
Yeah.
Now you're gaslighting like Brett Cooper.
Look at no comment.
I should, I'm just going to move on.
Girls.
I might argue that I'm mogging you right now.
Go for it.
Him never having sex with a woman.
You were trying to make him look bad.
All I said to him was: you think you'd be less intense about him if you just got late?
I was doing a bit of chester maxing.
You were in a van singing along to Heil Hipper.
Do you regret doing that?
Every so often, there's a trend or a craze which makes many reasonable people want to turn off the internet, possibly forever, and live in a deserted barn.
And my cortisol certainly spiked what I read very recently about looks maxing.
It's the catch-all term for a male-only regimen of intensive grooming for the purposes of maximizing, in their view, physical attractiveness.
Measures may include fillers, facial implants, tongue exercises, or even smashing in your own face, breaking bones to make it look more chiseled.
Well, Brayden Peters, better known as Clavicula, is the world-leading looks maxer.
Looks Maxing Trap00:15:30
He was recently profiled in the New York Times, no less.
And he joins me now.
Clavicula, welcome to our sensor.
Thanks for having me, Pierce.
Did you like to be called Brayden Cavicula?
Clavicular?
I call you.
I usually just go by Clav if you want to keep it chill.
Clav, let's keep it chill.
So, look, I want to start with a clip.
This is you talking to Andrew Tate actually about the prospect of being interviewed by me.
Do you have any advice for Clav on facing Piers Morgan?
Uh, Piers, he's not a snake because he doesn't stab you in the back.
He stabs you directly in the chest.
So he's going to go to war with you because you know that house.
Yeah, let's keep it cool.
It's going to come for you.
They're going to interrupt you, try and frustrate you, all this bullshit.
But that's perfect for me.
I never, yeah, I think that's it.
Yeah, I think media up here is all these people, they all have a lot more power four or five years ago.
Now, Clav, what I found kind of a bit mystifying about that was: A, that you would be a bit panicky about being interviewed by me because you seem a confident young man.
And the second, that you take any advice from Andrew Tate, because by definition of what he does and the way he conducts himself, interviews with him are always quite full-on, quite confrontational, and so on.
I'm struggling having researched you and your life and what you've built for yourself.
I don't really see that you're the same kind of character.
And we're going to come to the night that you had with him and Nick Fuentes and his other guys.
But you've been positioned with them all as a kind of right-wing headbanger online and so on.
I'm not entirely sure that's who you are.
So we'll come to why that's happened.
But why were you slightly apprehensive about doing this?
Well, you know, it's just like he said, I think you've run a lot of hit pieces on people.
You know, I don't think your production team is fully honest about, you know, sort of why you want to do these interviews.
And I think you like to catch.
Yeah, he's done that to me.
People, you know, kind of off guard and make them look bad.
But, you know, I don't think you're going to be as hostile towards me because it's like you said, I'm really not a political figure.
You know, this is kind of something new that we're discussing.
We're discussing something that's more along the lines of self-improvement.
That's kind of like a new philosophy.
I haven't really seen anywhere on the internet before.
Yeah.
I mean, look, in relation to what you just said about what I do, I would take issue with that, as I would with all the people I suppose you're referring to, because I don't set out to be overtly confrontational.
I certainly don't set out to gotcha these people, whether it's Andrew Tate, Nick Fuentes, whatever.
What I tend to do is when they're people who deliberately say inflammatory things, I tend to put those comments back to them.
We do our research.
The production team that you've slightly maligned there will do a very yeah, but come on, Pierce.
It's not a fair interview because you're like looking for it's not fun having a conversation with someone who goes in bad faith and they're just looking to take every single bad thing you've ever said and like put it to your face.
It's like, why are you hesitant to do that when we'll go through hours and hours of footage trying to find the most controversial thing you said?
Like, what's the I'm like incredible, incredible.
Thorough, professional job.
And I will put back to them their own words.
Now, I will then challenge them about why they said it, the context in which they said it.
Do they mean it?
Do they really hold these inflammatory views?
Or are they just winding people up and so on?
But that is the job of a journalist.
That's where you and I are different people.
We're different animals.
I'm a different animal to Fuentes and Tate and the others.
They're kind of influence, influencer, stroke, commentators.
And you're in that category, I guess, without much of the commentary.
You're a different kind of person.
But my job when I interview people like you is just to get to the bottom of who you are, what you stand for, stuff you've done, stuff you said.
Why would you automatically assume that is a kind of gotcha mechanism?
Well, I just assume that because that's kind of, you know, historically what I've seen, right?
That's just based off my own experiences.
So you've watched my interviews and think I try and trap people.
Pierce, come on.
We all know that's what you do for a living.
I think so.
I think you deliberately try to make people look bad.
Usually people on like sort of the fringe of the right wing.
But like I said before, as long as you sort of haven't, you know, automatically aligned me there, you know, maybe we'll be able to have a good interview that's not, you know, just you looking for gotcha clips.
Yeah, listen, I've got no desire to just look for a gotcha clip.
I can promise you that.
I don't think I've said that.
Yeah, I don't think challenging people on what's come out of their own mouths is ever a good idea.
Oh my God.
He gaslights just like women.
You're talking about.
They can get quite lively, those interviews, because people tend to not be challenged like that.
In the world that you swim in, it's rare that people like Nick Fuentes or Andrew Tate or others like that, Sneeko and others, that they get directly challenged about what they've said.
And they find it a little bit unusual and sometimes a bit unsettling.
But the clips that go out, I often think, I see the reaction to them.
I'm like, really?
You think that I just sit here and I just want to trap people when all I'm doing is repeating back to them what they've said?
I don't think that's a trap.
That's just holding people accountable for their own outpourings, right?
Which is like in your case, this is why I'm slightly mystified why you get boxed in with these guys, because I don't see much of a track record of you saying inflammatory right-wing things.
Yeah, I'd agree with you there.
I would say sort of people don't really know how to handle my ideology.
So they want to figure out which political camp I'm a part of so desperately.
So there's kind of a struggle to loop me into, you know, specific groups.
But it's like I always say, politics are gesture.
It's not something that I want to involve myself in.
It's not something I want to talk about because I just simply don't care.
I simply don't care.
My main pursuit is that of aesthetics and improving my looks to the maximum degree, you know, using every single mechanism available to me.
So the fact that that's become a political phenomenon just really doesn't make sense to me at all.
Well, they're bad because he's doing what women do.
Women use every mechanism to look better, like makeup, BBLs.
And now when a man does it, women don't like it when our game is played on ourselves.
It's like when men start taking thirst traps, women get mad, right?
Because they don't like it.
Cause then that gives men power.
They don't like when men have multiple women, even when women have multiple men, because that gives the men power.
Like women don't like it when their game is played back.
You've done pretty much everything in terms of aesthetics to make yourself look perfect, right?
This is your ambition.
I've done absolutely nothing.
I don't even moisturize my face.
I've never had any plastic surgery, never had any Botox, never taken anything.
We can tell.
We can tell, Pierce.
Drugs, nothing.
This is me the way God intended.
Do you think when you look at the pair of us that you are more aesthetically appealing than me?
I don't really think it's necessary or beneficial to anyone to sort of, you know, do some comparison, you know, in our looks level because I was like, he's kind of holding back in this interview.
Well, most of it can be attributed to self-improvement.
There is a big genetic role.
So, you know, my entire ideology is more so about improving, not really about comparison too much.
But my argument about that, just generally about the whole self-improvement boom of the last 20 years, is a lot of people that go down that path end up looking worse than they did to start with.
And actually, the best way to look good is not to go down the path of relentless self-improvement, to trust what you were given by the good Lord and to avoid doing too much to yourself.
I see so many people, particularly in entertainment, who've just ruined themselves, ruined their faces in the pursuit of what they perceive to be aesthetic perfection.
But well, that's because they don't know what they're doing.
A lot of them are opting to go with things like filler and Botox, which can, like you said, lead to these botch jobs.
You know, you look at guys like, you know, Zach Afron, who have tons of filler in their face and it starts to migrate.
It's just not a look that anyone should be pursuing.
But looks maxing can be as simple as losing weight, right?
So even going on a diet, which I'm sure is something that you've done previously, is part of looks maxing.
It's not just these super intensive plastic surgeries or these cosmetic procedures.
It's just anything that's going to improve your looks.
Well, I've never been on a diet.
One.
Secondly, I have recently lost five kilo.
Well, recently I've lost five kilograms because I managed to break my femur and have a hip replacement.
And so I've not been drinking and I've been eating quite healthily.
And it's amazing the weight just drops off.
So a lot of somebody who likes to drink.
He said that's a diet.
It's not a diet.
It's an enforced regime that's come about through an injury, right?
So a diet is a diet is a voluntary.
That's literally a diet.
Well, no, it's not because a diet.
Pierce absolutely worse makeup.
I've been, I've been in their makeup room.
They make you look really good.
I miss it.
I miss.
I wish I still had a makeup artist, even though I'd only get it when I was on their show.
But I miss it.
The voluntary regime you go into for no other reason than you want to lose weight.
I went into an involuntary regime forced upon me by circumstance of a fracture.
It doesn't matter how it's forced upon you.
Well, one is voluntary.
No, it doesn't matter if it's voluntary or not.
It's a deviation from your normal routine, right?
Whether or not you're forced to be in a caloric deficit or not, it's still a diet, you know, like, and, you know, regardless, it doesn't really matter.
You've done a calorie deficit before.
That can be something that's considered looks maxing.
So by definition, Piers, you are a looks maxer.
You're just someone who is kind of on the surface level of it, right?
I'm saying that in such a competitive dating market, you might need to take it a step further and sort of maybe utilize some peptides, maybe get a little bit leaner than, you know, your current body fat percentage.
That's kind of all I'm saying.
Right.
But, I mean, I might argue that I'm mogging you right now.
Okay, well.
Well, you know, that's a fair perspective.
For those who don't know what I've just said, what does mogging mean?
Basically, outshining someone, looking better than them.
And there's different types of mugs, right?
There's status mogs, there's, you know, money mugs.
So, you know, you might have me in those categories, but I think we need to add in a little bit of nuance that it's not a looks mug, you know.
This kid, I can't believe this kid's 19.
You would say that you have the edge over me in looks mugging.
I think I might have you by just a small margin.
I don't know, but that could be attributed to youth, you know.
So back in the day, youth.
A lot of women find the older dude.
A lot of women find the older dude more appealing than the young, pimply youth, you know?
Well, you know, absolutely.
But I would say for the most part, looks are an extremely objective thing.
And that's sort of what I'm trying to, you know, push people towards realizing is that, well, you might not know these facial ratios that make someone attractive and harmonious or not, they're subconscious, right?
And everyone is judging you based off of them.
And it's not something that's within anyone's control.
So simply being able to identify them and improve upon them is a very beneficial thing.
Okay, well, let's have a look at you before you started all this and we'll compare to what you look like now.
So there's the before and after.
To be fair, I think his like face is kind of the same.
It's the hair helps because I think his forehead's slightly big and the acne went away.
And the body, I guess, is better now.
Obviously, the steroids.
What age were you in the?
Like, I think like his here, I guess maybe the bone smashing did help.
Before picture, can you see that where you are?
Yeah, I would have been, I would have been 16 years old.
And the one on the one on the right is you're what are you now?
You're 20?
Yeah.
So you've been through.
That would have been when I was okay.
So you've been through a big physical transformation.
That's clear.
Your face has changed dramatically.
So what have you done to your face to look max yourself?
It's a lot of pharmaceutical intervention, especially during puberty, right?
So this is going to be the time where it's most important for people to optimize sort of their growth mechanisms and their growth pathways.
And, you know, a few of the ways I did this is with exogenous hormones like testosterone, like human growth hormone.
I did things like block aromatase, which is testosterone converting into estrogen so that I would actually grow taller.
So there's plenty of different mechanisms that I leverage to sort of masculinize myself a little bit more and to become a little bit bigger.
So, you know, it would just take me so long to go through every little step that I took to looks max.
Okay, but then there's a harder degree called hard maxing, which is my understanding.
Looks Maxing Techniques00:02:35
Correct me if I'm wrong, because this is your lingo, not mine, which is often surgical or invasive methods to alter appearance, fillers, implants, plastic surgery.
So a more dramatic way to use surgical enhancement.
Is that accurate?
That's accurate, yes.
Have you done much hard maxing to yourself?
Well, a lot of people consider anabolic steroids to be within the heart.
I don't think, like, okay, because think about it.
This is how gynecentric of a social order we live in.
So he's going to the extreme to look better, but women do it all the time.
And there's no show about BBLs, boob jobs, like facial implants.
Women have been getting that for 50 years.
But when a man does it, that's when it's shame.
Maxing category, and I've done things like Botox.
But in terms of like actual surgical osteotomies, rhinoplasties, I haven't done that.
It's just more so about pharmacology.
Have you partaken in mewing, a technique involving specific tongue posture to improve your jawline structure?
I have participated in mewing.
And the whole idea behind me is that it should be your natural tongue position, right?
That basically means that your palate has enough space to accommodate your tongue and that you've got proper development.
And this also, you know, is going to help you with focusing on nose breathing, which, you know, during your development is one of the key things for looks max.
There's not much you can do after you've already developed improperly, but mewing is going to be one of those things.
I know.
And I have jaw issues.
You hear this?
And I think it's because my like lower face didn't fully develop.
I'm always so jealous of people with big nostrils.
I'm like, it would be so nice to just like get a lot of air up there.
Black people don't know how good they have it because it's absolutely required during the youth.
Where do you come up with these phrases?
I mean, I've got two cats, two Burmese cats.
They mew, they meow.
That's what I perceive to be mewing.
Where do you get this lingo from?
So a lot of the lingo comes from forums over the years.
Looks Maxing Lingo00:14:50
This was a very niche part of the internet for a while.
And this was one of the techniques from Dr. Mike Mew that became very popular.
I would say that this is kind of just like the most surface level form of looks maxing that's sort of been known, you know, throughout internet spaces since, you know, really about 2016, I would say.
But like the more hardcore form.
Yeah, I've been debating to impalate expansion, but it's so expensive.
All the quotes I got were so expensive.
And I'm like nervous.
I'm like, what if I do all this work and it doesn't fix my problem?
Which is my jaw.
I don't know.
Lux maxing weren't really discovered and weren't really in the mainstream until a little bit later on.
See, look, people watching this, you've never heard of you go, why are you giving all this airtime to this guy?
It's all quite interesting, but what's special about you, right?
And I would argue the reason the New York Times did a big profile on you is that you're now making, it is reported, at least $100,000 a month from your daily stream, which often involves hours and hours of you just streaming whatever you're up to.
And I presume you'll include your impressions of how our interview goes, for example.
It is fascinating to me that someone like you at your age can come and become a millionaire really by just using a load of phraseology combined with, I guess, self-improvement, nothing new about self-improvement, but you're combining the two and what people, young people, perceive to be a cool way which you have tapped into, which is very lucrative.
That is why you're interesting, right?
Yeah, I would say so.
And I don't really think it comes down to the finances.
That's sort of something that has been, you know, really pushed in the media for some reason.
I don't think that social media money in this day and age should really be that surprising to people.
I think there's content creators who are a lot better off than me financially.
So I'm kind of just shocked that people cared about that headline so much.
And the thing is, Piers, simply what I'm saying is, my life is kind of on a one-to-one linear timeline with my exact ideologies that improving your looks is going to have a direct correlation with improvement in your life, right?
So, sort of, as soon as I started really ascending and really getting into those high percentile looks, look at what happened to my life, right?
I became that millionaire, I became famous, and a lot of things just started going really well for me.
Who knows if this would have happened if I were, you know, in the lower percentiles of looks.
You know, maybe some of it could be attributed to charisma, to my personality and uniqueness, but I would say for the most part, this wouldn't be possible.
This generational run, as they like to say, would not have been possible without the looks.
You mentioned your charisma.
Another phrase is gesture maxing, the act of using humor, clowning, or absurd behavior to gain attention.
No, I think he's right, guys.
I mean, looks get you far in life.
I mean, if I, okay, I can even say when I put on a full face of makeup, I curl my hair and I look like really, really nice.
Um, then, like, you know, I get treated different.
I could hit on way more.
Like, it's the issue is I've always found it's just very difficult to like look smack, like to look really nice every day and go to the gym every day.
I have a hard time because the mate, I'm gonna sweat.
Like, I'm gonna put the makeup on, put the makeup off.
I don't know.
It's just, you know, you know what I mean?
From women, uh, I mean, that's just chatting them up, isn't it?
And having the old gift of the gad.
Uh, no, I think gesture maxing is its own category, right?
Being funny, uh, being, you know, that's not necessarily gesture maxing.
I would say that gesture maxing, um, a lot of the times it's like that kind of self-deprecating humor, uh, like, you know, someone cracking an egg on their head or something like that and saying, oh, look at me, I'm such an idiot or something in front of girls.
So it's its own very unique thing.
Just being a clown and, you know, stuff like that.
I think everyone knows a jester when they see it.
And sort of once you know this terminology, you're going to be able to use it in your day-to-day life quite perfectly.
Have you managed to seduce many women by cracking eggs on yourself?
No, I have not.
Yeah, I'm not entirely convinced gesture maxing is the way to go.
Sleigh maxing.
No, no, no, no.
I'm actually jester maxing.
Yeah.
Oh, you're answering.
I beg your mind.
Yeah, yeah.
Jester maxing.
You agree with me.
Yes.
No, I got it.
Jester Maxing's.
I'm sorry.
I've got my on my round.
So jester maxing is an insult.
Oh, yeah, yeah, I know.
The last thing you want to do is be a jester.
Very last thing.
Got it.
Sleigh maxing.
Is that that means to have sex, right?
Yeah, absolutely.
What's the significance of using the word sleigh?
Sleigh is just sort of a term that we use on the forums for, you know, having sex with a girl because a lot of people would directly correlate success in their ascension with success with females, right?
So getting a sleigh was sort of like the ultimate pursuit for looks maxers.
I think it goes a whole lot deeper than this.
I think a lot of it and the reasoning that you should look, Smacks, is just overall quality of life stuff.
But, you know, improvements in the whole dating scene is certainly something that we've seen.
So that's kind of just placing like a value or just being able to gauge your successes.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, because you can't say you're good with women if you can't bang a bunch of women.
I'm sorry, guys.
And I hate the copes.
It's like, oh, well, I don't want to bang a bunch of women.
Well, you probably can't, right?
Or the ones that you can just aren't that good.
You know, there's women losing their virginities every day.
It's just not to you.
You know, I'm just being like, you know, she's banging somebody.
Your dream girl's banging somebody.
It's just not you.
And I'm sorry that I have to say it, but I'm that bitch that talks on YouTube.
Now, look.
Now look.
Some people say that banging women isn't hard, and some people say it is.
And I have no experience in the matter because I like, you know, dick.
Yeah.
But we got to be honest here.
We got to be honest.
Most men would not be monogamous if they had three hot 18-year-olds begging them for sex.
They wouldn't.
They wouldn't.
And I learned this in my political media career because a lot of the guys that said they would never, sorry, that said they would never do that kind of thing.
They said, don't be a degenerate.
That's bad.
We're cheating on you, their wives.
And fucking all these bitches raw.
Now, look, don't shoot the messenger.
I'm just saying a lot of the people nagging are really the ones slaying.
So please don't cope.
If you don't have a lot of bitches on speed, dial, it's just not you.
And look, like me, you know, I can be a loser in many regards.
Like I was never invited onto Leonardo DiCaprio's yacht.
It just is what it is, right?
I can't say that I was busy.
I cannot say that, you know, I wouldn't have done it.
I don't know, because I wasn't invited.
I wasn't, right?
And there's just some things in life where it's like, you know, you can't say that you would do the moral thing if you weren't like if I was invited by A-list celebrities to hang out.
It's like I like to think I would be like, oh, no, I'm above that.
But would I really?
An 18, 18-year-old pearl?
I never got invited.
It's shocking.
I know.
Dan Bulzeri, all the really hot girl activities, I just never got invited.
And that tells you you're where you are in the marketplace.
So men can see where they're at in the marketplace by how many young women are interested in them and how strong is the interest, right?
Some men have like 30-year-old broads, but the women are head over heels.
It's not just like an eh.
It's like, I want to go home with you immediately.
And some men will never get that, right?
Just like some women will never get the opportunity to just exist for a living, you know.
Most people aren't winners, right?
Most people aren't in the top like 10% or whatever.
I'm not, most of you guys aren't.
It just is what it is.
You know, it's just an L, you know, things are L's.
So, and your argument is as you've pursued this Lux Maxing campaign for yourself, you've become more attractive and you've had more women.
Yeah, that's correct.
So, in that sense, you're very different to someone like Nick Fuentes, who told me proudly that he's a virgin.
He's never had sex, right?
Well, I don't really understand why it's so, you know, controversial to say that when, you know, that's for religious reasons, right?
I seriously doubt that you would ever say that to someone who is of the Islamic faith, someone saying that they're reserving themselves for marriage.
I think, you know, you would probably be screwed in media if you were to use that same argument against the Muslim that you simply because he's Catholic.
Yeah, but it's yeah, but hang on.
It wasn't, I didn't use it as an argument.
I just asked him if it was true.
I didn't care either way.
It doesn't bother me.
No, you know, it's interesting to me that what do you think I was doing?
You were trying to make him look bad and sort of use the whole thing of him never having sex with a woman as some sort of like insult or some sort of way for you to, you know, like make him look bad.
It was just a little ridiculous.
Well, actually, all I said to him was, do you think you'd be less intense about everything if you just got laid?
Gen Z men are different.
They are not with this bullshit from the boomer men.
I was just having a bit of fun with it.
I was doing a bit of gestures.
They've seen too much.
Their high school, the hottest girls in their high schools got flown out by celebrities.
They've seen too much.
They've gotten their girls stolen by streamers, you know, or the frat kid.
Yeah, but I mean, like, that's just attacking someone based on their, you know, religious beliefs.
And I don't really think that that makes any sense.
You don't think Nick Fuentes ever does that?
Well, you know, this is about you.
If you want to morally grandstand over people, you know, just because he did it, does that mean I can do it?
Like that aren't.
No, no, no, it's not, it's not morally grandstanding, but it's not.
No, it is.
I wasn't morally.
I'm not boring.
I'm not morally grandstanding, but I do think if somebody, for example, like him has been very critical of people who are Jewish, for example, and have a Jewish faith, what's wrong with questioning him with his faith?
And by the way, his faith is the same as mine.
He's a Christian.
I'm a Catholic.
All right, Pearl, the other side of this coin is just the accusations.
You'll wait.
You'll see floods of women accusing Clav or this or that influence.
Well, yeah.
The challenge is you can't have one without the other.
It always repeats.
No, there's some guys.
Look at some guys are smart enough to figure it out.
Men, they don't like this, right?
They don't like it because it shows incompetence.
Now he's young, so I don't know if he'll figure it out, right?
But there's always men that bang a bunch of bitches and get in zero trouble.
I'm just being honest, right?
I know one guy, he does consent forms.
We are not banging unless you sign this consent form.
I'm going to get a video of you on camera.
So other guys that have, you know, a camera in their living room.
Some of us would rather spend an entire life alone than settle with a modern human despite what they look like in a 3D realm.
That's true.
I under look at how do I put this?
I'm not, I'm not, I'm really not trying to like judge you or judge anybody, you know, but we got to be like analytical here.
And I just like to be accurate.
And there are occasionally men that turn down a lot of bitches because of the problems, but it's not most guys.
most guys are insanely desperate um you know most guys don't have a lot of choice in the sexual marketplace and the choices that they have aren't good And there are men with good choices because every one of you know, the crushes you've had, like somebody banged them, right?
Pierce's Curious Brother00:02:40
So, but yeah, I could he is he gonna catch a case?
It's gonna be tougher because everything he does is on camera, but we'll see.
You know, I had no problem with his answer.
I was just curious what kind of person he is.
I'm curious what kind of person you are.
What's interesting is you're clearly very different people because I'm going to come to the van where you're all in the same van.
And I'm like, I'm sort of scratching my head as to what you guys have in common.
I just don't see that you have much in common with someone like Fuentes or why you would think it would benefit you to be seen with him.
Now he's going to nag.
Hold on.
Guys, all right.
I just see this clip going off on Twitter.
We're going to take a commercial break from this and then go back to the Pierce interview.
But it's just getting, I need to see.
There's a 13-year-old who got his neck slashed, who apparently was very funny on Fox News.
And I just want to see it.
Situational awareness, as they call it.
I mean, I think.
Yeah, but I don't think you should have to be like that.
No, like it's kind of dumb.
Lori, mom.
I bet you are.
I don't know.
Yes.
Of course.
Of course.
I mean, he was only 11 feet away from me when this happened, maybe 12 feet.
It's absolutely horrifying.
And he's had nightmares.
We don't know.
Hopefully it's here.
And there's nothing more to come.
And his little brother, who's 11, who saw everything as well.
Seeing his brother's neck split open, you know, there might be some trauma.
Did I say these young guys are different?
Well, I can't even imagine.
Oh, my God.
Okay, I knew I had to watch it.
Let's come to it because it was quite interesting.
You know, one of the few controversial things genuinely I think you've been involved with was this scene in Miami when you're in a van with the Tate brothers, with Nick Fuentes, with Sneeko.
When you watch that video, are you comfortable about that?
Well, listen, Pierce, historically, you've, you know, kind of been talking about this whole thing with yay for a little while.
So I've actually got a yay thing as well for you.
So why would you go to that island, Pierce?
Which island?
Why You Shouldn't Go There00:15:25
You know what I mean?
So that's the point.
No, Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Which island?
You mean the Epstein Island?
Obviously, I've never been there, never met Epstein, never had any connection with him, not in the Epstein files, other than references to being at lunches.
Well, no, no, you can go read them.
Well, no, the beauty of the Epstein files, you can go and check my name.
You can read every entry.
You'll see none of them have anything to do with him or his activities or anything.
I'm just mentioned in passing as having been at completely unconnected events.
So there's something that I met Maxwell.
Well, I'm glad to come to that.
So I was pictured with her.
Okay, I was pictured with her at a book launch for five minutes.
I've talked about it.
She admitted that under oath, the only time we'd ever met was for five minutes.
So I have no connection to that scandal at all.
Other than you do have a connection.
You just are downplaying it and gaslighting, right?
For five minutes at a book launch.
So let me come back to you in the van with the Heil Hitler song playing.
Well, this is like a little bit ridiculous because you're with me.
Hang on.
Hang on.
No, Hang on.
No, you're with the number one.
Can I finish my question?
Okay, go ahead.
Yes.
Let me finish my question.
I'm just curious because Ye has now publicly apologized for all his anti-Semitic behavior and language in a full-page advertisement he took out in a newspaper that came after the thing with the van.
You've seen Andrew Tate trying to backtrack from what happened there.
Fuentius doubles down because that's what he does about everything.
He views it all probably as a bit of a joke and it doesn't matter.
Steeko, I don't think it really matters.
He's not significant in the way I think that you are in terms of influence.
But I look at you there and you've got a guy behind you literally doing a Nazi salute as Heil Hitler plays in this van.
A song that basically pays, well, hang on, a song that pays tribute.
Well, you're singing along to the song and it pays tribute to Pierce did this to me too.
Most genocidal monster of the last hundred years.
And I'm just curious whether you think it's funny, whether you now regret being put in that position, whether you wish you hadn't been so enthusiastic about singing along to that song, or whether you don't care at all.
And I don't have a fixed answer for you.
I'm just curious what you genuinely feel.
Well, the thing is, Piers, I'm not political and I didn't play the song.
So that's kind of all there is to it, right?
And I find it quite silly to me that you're with the number one looks maxer.
And instead of asking how you could ascend, so that your wife wouldn't tweet out captions like, when my husband's away, Mr. Sud comes out to play.
Maybe if you ask me how to ascend, then I'll stop happening to you.
You know what I mean?
No, it's true because he's nagging everyone else while his wife embarrasses him on the internet.
Okay, so, well, you're okay.
So you're distracting and that's fine.
You're having your fun.
I've got no problem with that.
But just to be clear, you were in a van singing along to Heil Hitler.
Do you regret doing that?
Well, I didn't play it, right?
So it's like if someone were to come next to you in the street and play a song, it's like, you know what I mean?
So it's like, I don't know why you're trying to.
You sang along to it.
This is.
And this is exactly what I'm talking about.
Wait, listen.
No, no, no, no.
This is.
I've got nothing to do with it.
I'm just curious.
I've got nothing to do with it.
Well, you're singing along.
I really sing along something to do with it.
I have nothing to do with it.
And this is what I mean, right?
So you basically lied to, you know, my PR team that you wanted to come and interview me about looks maxing.
And this is what you do, right?
I've literally spent the first.
Hang on, hang on.
Stop being such a baby.
I spent the first half hour of the interview taking you seriously about all the looks maxing thing.
I find it genuinely interesting.
I find it also interesting.
Okay, so let's talk about that.
I'm not hang on, hang on, hang on.
Let me finish.
Let me finish my point.
Let me finish my point.
All right, let's try and keep things civil.
There's no reason not to be.
I'm just bemused why you would want to be associated with those other guys most of whom have doubled and trebled down on it who don't.
I cannot stand this guilt by association.
I just cannot stand.
I cannot stand it.
Care, they don't mind idolizing Hitler, they think it's funny, they joke about the holocaust and so on.
I'm not sure you're that kind of person, but you have a chance to tell me whether you are right.
You were in this.
I just told you i'm not political.
Well, it's pretty political to challenge well, to sing to a song.
At the end of the day, you're being.
It's like I don't know why you're trying to.
I don't know why you're trying to make me this political figure when it's something that i've tried so hard to avoid.
It's like I want to talk about looks maxing, but at the like, my position on everything is like i'm not going to be uh, you know, scared to collaborate with people.
That's something that was good for my career.
Objectively to collab with bigger creators.
It's like uh, just as I would with any leftist, like it really doesn't make any sense for you to do this whole jester max where you're trying to make me this like right-wing guy, when i'm not joking, i'm literally doing, i'm actually literally hang on.
I'm literally doing, hang on, hang on Clav.
I'm literally doing the opposite.
I i'm actually giving you the chance to say, you're not one of those right wing guys that you don't idolize.
There you go that you don't for the sixth time.
Well, it is that i'm not political.
Okay, that's that's.
But you can, that's my okay so so so, it's like nothing to do with me.
Like, i'm on here and denounce, like nothing to do with political figure, it's not political, that's all you're getting.
Pierce, that's all you're getting is i'm not political whatsoever okay anyway, okay.
So back to looks maxing.
Back to looks maxing.
I understand you're not.
I'm gonna try this gotcha moment where you, i'm gonna try.
Okay, it's not a gotcha moment.
You were singing Heil Hitler right, you made it political, not me.
As I said to you at the start of the interview, I will always challenge people on what comes out of their mouths.
You were singing Heil Hitler with a bunch of people, some of whom have been brazenly anti-semitic.
I'm simply asking you, do you feel comfortable looking back on that video?
Do you wish you hadn't done it and do you understand why people were so offended by it?
Yeah, I absolutely understand why uh, people are offended by it, but at the end of the day, it's like something that went viral and um, you know, like i'm a content creator but it was sort of more of a headache than it was a positive.
So, at the end of the day, uh and i'm not political and this is kind of like what happened was now people are asking me all these questions about podcasts.
So it's just really not something that uh, I want anything to do with in in terms of, like my content to, to do political stuff, to do any of these like huge pr stunts.
You know what I mean.
So um like, i'm simply here to advocate for, You know, men's issues and looks maxing.
So that sort of distracted from that a little bit.
So that's not, that was never.
I get it.
So I get it, which is what I thought would be the case.
So just to conclude that, I'm not going to overrate.
Okay.
You don't have to keep going for clarifications.
It's like I told you.
No, no, I'm not asking for clarification.
That's one more question about it.
Given what you're saying.
I'm not going to say.
I'm not going to answer.
I'm not going to answer.
So move on.
Okay.
All right.
We have another question yet.
I'm not answering your questions about politics anymore.
So this is exactly what Knowles did to me that landed me in a lot of trouble with the whole thing about JD Vance.
It's like now I attacked JD simply because, and I was trying to comment on looks, right?
But this went viral all over Twitter and it detracted from my message.
So that this is not like something that I want to keep happening where it's like, I simply make a comment about someone's body fat percentage.
And all of a sudden, I'm, you know, a left-winger.
I'm a Democrat.
I support Newsome.
It's like, no, I just simply said that he's fat, right?
Like, had you supported him once?
Had you waited?
Clav, Clav, you're getting ahead of yourself because had you waited, I'd have said I totally understood what you were doing with JD Vance and Gavin Newsome.
You weren't making a political statement.
You were making an aesthetic statement.
I didn't think you were political there.
You were simply saying JD Vance looks a certain way.
Gavin Newsome looks a certain way.
For your look maxing aspirations for people, Newsome ticks more boxes than JD Vance, right?
I said that he mogs him, yes.
Yeah, so I got that.
And that's why I didn't think that was political at all.
My last question on the other matter, and you don't have to answer.
I'm going to ask you the question.
Clam, no!
About understanding why I've offended people, wishing you hadn't done it, and so on.
Would you like to apologize for being involved in that?
I didn't play the song, so I've got nothing to say about that.
You're not sorry about singing along to it.
I had nothing to do with it, Pierce, at the end of the day.
You did sing it.
I had nothing to do with it, Pierce.
Like, I don't know why you're trying to, you know, constantly circle back.
It's like, I'm not political.
I'm not.
He has spent like 20 minutes on this stupid.
Okay.
I've tried to give it a lot of people.
Terrible people.
Like, they just bad faith.
They try to catch it.
Like, when I got into this industry, I just did not.
I was so retarded.
I just did not.
I kind of thought everybody was trying to understand each other and get to the bottom of stuff.
And it's just like they just want a morally grandstand.
They want to make you look bad.
It's like, well, you hate talking to lawyers, right?
They'll talk their way out of anything.
I've just given you three opportunities, given you expressed regret for people who were offended and so on to apologize.
You've chosen not to.
You don't have to.
I'm not forcing you.
I'm not trying to gotcha you.
Would you like to apologize for being with Ghislaine Maxwell and being in the Epstein file?
Would you like to apologize for that?
No.
No, because I've told you, I'm in the Epstein files.
No apology.
Based.
Yeah.
Epstein had aura.
You don't understand.
You don't understand.
He's the newspaper.
Your production team.
So the difference is, I don't mind you.
I don't mind.
I have no problem with you talking to me about Ghillane Maxwell or Epstein or the scandal or that I find concerning.
Okay.
This is a dangerous and pretty discontinued and discouraged practice of actually hitting bones in your face to create a more chiseled look.
Have you done this and do you encourage people to do it?
Yeah, so I have done this.
This is something that was part of my routine for years and still is.
The problem is there is sort of a barrier to entry to all this stuff that comes with just, you know, intelligence, right?
So if you tell people about bone smashing and they're super low IQ, they might, you know, hit themselves in the eye and cause a lot of trauma or, you know, severe harm to themselves.
So like these are things that could be very dangerous if, you know, done improperly, but also things that can have a lot of benefit.
And this is always the nuance that I give.
So it's sort of a double-edged sword on whether or not I recommend it.
It's like, if done properly, with the proper precautions, it can be a good thing and it will be a good thing.
But there is a lot of risk involved.
I just don't think smashing your face up is a good thing to be encouraging anyone to do.
Yeah, but he doesn't encourage it.
He just says this worked for me.
This is what I did.
And that's what people don't like about a lot of like men's content is men don't really care if you follow them or not.
They're going to do what they're going to do.
And, you know, the men that see it as like the benefit worth the cost, they're going to do it too.
Okay.
Well, you know, tell me why not.
Because I think the obvious potential downside massively outweighs any potential upside.
And there's also a kind of wider point I'd say to you, which is, well, to me, like my overriding view of your whole sort of philosophy about.
No, no, no, no, but like, why, why do you not recommend bone smashing?
What, like, what's what's actually wrong with it?
Self-evidently, because smashing, well, I can tell you why I don't recommend bone smashing.
I literally smashed a bone five weeks ago.
I broke my femur falling over, needed a hip replacement.
It's wrecked my life for the last five weeks.
I can't.
Well, we're talking about very intentional localized micro-trauma.
I know.
Talk about falling over.
I know, but you're yeah.
I know.
So are you saying it's not possible for you to have, you know, a semblance of precision to not just completely shatter your orbital rim or something?
Like it seems like a very easy thing to do.
I think my overriding question about all of this for you is.
So what's wrong with it?
It smells slightly easy.
Hang on.
Well, I look, I don't think it's a good idea to encourage people if you do.
But why?
Perfectly entitled to.
If you've done it and it worked for you, great.
And I don't dispute that you look good, right?
You're a good-looking young man, no problem.
Or that you've been very successful with your philosophy.
Okay.
These things are just a given.
But I've met a lot of very good looking people in my career.
And a lot of them end up miserable, right?
Because their looks eventually fade and they can't deal with it.
And they end up turning to drink and drugs and they're depressed.
And it's awful to watch because they pride aesthetics over things that are more important.
Character, for example, your personality, intelligence, education, wisdom, all these sort of things.
In other words, why are you doing the same thing where you make it mutually exclusive?
They're not mutually exclusive at all.
Well, I'm not.
I agree.
I don't think like people's looks are just their looks.
You don't really know what someone's about till you talk to them.
I'm not.
But are you not concerned that partly this is driven by insecurity on your part?
No, I would say that that would be applicable to most people in the looks maxing scene.
So I don't think that's a bad argument for you to give.
But for me, for my specific case, it's based on objectivity, right?
It's based on real world data that shows looks are extremely important in the workplace.
Looks are extremely important in dating.
So that's kind of the reason that I go about looks maxing, but that might not be so true for everyone.
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I want to just mention some famous men who I would argue are better looking than you, despite not having pursued a life of looks maxing.
This is just my objective opinion.
Robert Redford.
Yeah, but he always says that people like genetics are a big component.
Paul Newman.
Brad Pitt.
All right.
Pierce is a classic narc.
He wears you down over time.
Gaslights is a hypocrite.
If Claud had experienced the guilt by association, back to the Epstein connection would definitely hit him hard.
No mercy.
Yeah.
George Clooney, Cristiano Ronaldo.
There's five.
What's your response?
My response is Brad Pitt has had multiple facelifts.
Cristiano Ronaldo has had a lot of dental work done.
People have speculated that he's had some work done on his jaw with filler.
So all these people, if you think that they're not looks maxing, Hollywood actors, that's just completely.
Yeah, everyone does a little bit.
Everybody does.
Even the tratty girls that say they don't, half of them, they've had something done.
A little bit silly almost.
That wasn't what I said.
I just said that they are potentially better looking at you.
How do you plead to them?
Yeah, and I really wouldn't have a problem with that argument.
Like, I don't really think that I'm like, you know, the top echelon of looks.
I would say that I'm probably above average in my looks, but it's not, you know, a hill for me to die on and say, oh, I'm the best looking person ever.
That would be a ridiculous argument.
And it's not one that I've ever made.
Right.
So to just name five people in your estimation, who is the best looking person in the world?
And who's the best looking person ever?
Oh, that's a tough one.
The best.
All right.
Best looking person ever.
Well, we might not know who that is, but certainly, you know, what I've said when this question is asked is based on objective mathematics, you know, Matt Bomer scores the highest in terms of facial harmony.
Isn't Matt Bomer gay too?
He is, he is very good looking.
Bomer.
Is he gay?
What?
Monday Night Reactions00:01:46
What a waste.
The most attractive man on the planet is gay.
But, you know, if it is that I can't deal with women.
There are some other things that go into it, like, you know, coloring, you know, like angularity and dimorphism.
So, you know, while that's true about the objective harmony measurements, you know, it would take a little bit of thinking to kind of determine and maybe some surveys.
All right.
I'm going to end it there.
Clav has a good career ahead of him if he can stay out of trouble.
It's tough, though.
Young kids get famous.
Sometimes they get arrested, think they're invincible.
You feel invincible when you're young and then you get taken out a few times and you're like, yeah.
Pearl's also gaslighting.
Well, I just happen, you know.
All right.
Well, guys, thanks for tuning in.
That was kind of fun to watch.
I don't know if I'm going to stream tomorrow.
I think I'll stream.
I'm going to film some reactions tomorrow.
Probably.
Yeah, I'll probably film reactions.
I might not stream this weekend.
But I'll be back Monday.
So Monday night, I'll see you guys.
And thank you guys so much for watching.
As usual, I have a great time talking to you.
And, you know, what makes me nervous?
I don't know.
Screaming women make me nervous.
So, why was I nervous with her?
She's screaming at me.
You know what I mean?
I don't know.
I don't, because you know, day to day, when do I deal with screaming people?