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May 21, 2019 - Project Camelot

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ROUNDTABLE RE 5G, ILLUMINATI, DARK MAGICIANS AND THE FUTURE

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	Hi everyone, I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot and very happy to be here tonight.
	We have a very interesting roundtable discussion that we're going to be doing here and it's going to be with me, Gary Cassidy, Deborah Tavares, and also Alexandra JB. We've done some other roundtable discussions that you may know about and they're on my YouTube channel.
	And I encourage you to see them if you haven't already.
	So what we're going to do is basically introduce ourselves, and I'm an investigative journalist, documentary filmmaker, and also producer and broadcaster.
	And let's see, Debra, are you there?
	Yes, I am, Terry.
	Hello, everyone.
	This is Debra Tavares with StopTheCrime.net, which is my website.
	Along with primarywater.org.
	I am an investigative reporter and I research documents around the clock.
	And our websites are known for documentation.
	And I'll be talking this evening about my recent conference at the AV10, Alternative View 10, conference in the UK, of which I was one of the keynote speakers.
	Also, I will be talking about some horrific breaking news.
	Well, not necessarily breaking news to me, but certainly I will be exposing some of the catastrophic Energy weapons and military weapons and weather weapons that will be used within the United States that we have some reports on.
	So I'm looking forward to going over this this evening as well as talking about some of the aspects of what we saw when we were in the UK and in London at the conference.
	Okay, great.
	Then we're going to bring on Alexandra J.B. And Alexandra, I'm going to show you on the screen here.
	So go right ahead.
	Yeah, I live in Czech Republic now in Europe.
	I am dual citizen.
	Most of my life I have lived in Sweden.
	I'm a medical doctor, neurologist, and psychiatrist.
	And my part in this, I happen to...
	It has happened to me something extraordinary in late February 2013 and middle of March 2013, and I consider myself more in this, not as an investigative journalist as Kerry and Deborah,
	but more as a psychiatrist More in forensic psychiatry, I'm watching the Illuminati, the top Illuminati, what they are planning and what we could do.
	And I hope we could talk about the Iron Mountain report from 1960s and compare it to what is going on now in 2019, which in my Opinion is what's happening,
	what they were planning and my hope is that we could do a stop the crime.net report or two reports how the situation is right now and the second report what we could do a blueprint to Destroy this tyranny, the coming tyranny.
	So I hope we could discuss something of that.
	It's a genocide.
	Okay.
	It is absolutely genocide, yes.
	All right, absolutely.
	Now...
	What we'll do at this point, I guess, is give the floor first to Deborah and allow her to talk in some detail about her experience over at the conference that she just got back from in England.
	And then also what you're calling breaking news, but however you want to term it, and go ahead on that.
	Yes, well, absolutely.
	Again, this is Deborah Tavares with StopTheCrime.net.
	We will get into the report from Iron Mountain, but I do want to go over some pieces of information that certainly we've come back from the UK, back to Northern California, this being May the 20th, 2016.
	And 19 when I return back.
	Anyhow, yes, what we have been talking about and what we have found are documents talking about the world's infrastructure of dams, reservoirs, levees, and bridges as being unsustainable and certainly riddled with lack of maintenance and poorly maintained, all admittedly very aging.
	And they go on to tell us that there are going to be massive failures with all of the bridges, dams, levees, and reservoirs worldwide because of the lack of maintenance, but also because we have climate change, which is now presenting a new type of weather-related disadvantages to all this original infrastructure that was built for a different type of climate.
	This is allowing the weapons systems to become fully engaged and use all of the infrastructure as booby traps worldwide.
	And when they admit to the fact that it's because of climate change, then we all must realize that this is all weather weapons and weapons-related technologies, electromagnetic pulsing and frequencies And more.
	I refer everyone to a report, a 1960s CIA memorandum on weather control as a document for everyone to look at.
	But what I'm talking about right now is we have a very large dam in central California called the Oroville Dam and Reservoir.
	And it presented a huge evacuation back in 2017 And it represents the possibility that several hundred thousand people could be gravely impacted when they let this dam go.
	And the waters would cascade down.
	They're talking about how the waters would end up in some of the various tributaries, the Feather River, etc., going on into the San Francisco area, not necessarily as a flood in the San Francisco area, But impacting the entire central core of California.
	They go on to say, Carrie, which geographically, for those of you that can see in your mind's eye, San Francisco all the way on down to Los Angeles.
	Because of the massive release of water out of the Oroville Dam, they're saying that there will be irreversible water loss for California.
	The Los Angeles area, gravely impacting water accessibility.
	And based on the fact that we have been told in many of the documents that there is a report dated September 2018.
	It's called Paying It Forward, The Path Towards Climate Safe Infrastructure in California.
	And when you look at this document, And they talk about the monumental amounts of cost to repair and bring up to current climate change requirements all the infrastructure.
	They simply do not have the funds.
	And also, what is really horrifying, and I did a YouTube several years ago called Water Wars, Controlling Water for Profit and Power.
	And in that YouTube, I have some documents I go over that we discovered from the UK and from Israel.
	And those documents reveal, through Rothschild, the intentional reduction and certainly lack of repair and maintenance on all infrastructure.
	Intentional.
	And you look at all of the dams, lakes, and reservoirs and you find that there have been no repair.
	And these are, as I say, booby traps everywhere.
	And so we're going to have to watch closely the Oroville Dam in Central California and see what occurs, because right now we've had tremendous rains.
	The dam, the reservoir is full, and the USGS is reporting that all is well, that the repairs that were made on the dam are fine.
	And yet there are many Engineers that are calling foul to those reports.
	We know that the USGS is a taken organization, and what I mean by that is the documents that I exposed in the Water Wars, Taking Water for Profit and Power.
	It lists the name of the various organizations that are doing the bidding for For evil deeds, including the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and more.
	So we're very concerned about the Oroville Dam, certainly the hundreds of thousands of lives that would be impacted, the loss of life, the loss of housing, the loss of agriculture, and the tearing down of California, one tear down at a time.
	Of course, we've been hit with massive fires and most recently floods.
	So I'm putting a shout out for everybody to please watch the dam situation because there's more to the dam reality than we realized.
	And I'm going to talk about that right now because Carrie and Alexandra, I did not know how dams worked until I did some research.
	And I typed in dams and earthquakes and I discovered a horrifying reality.
	It has been known since before the 1930s that dams and reservoirs cause earthquakes.
	So think of it like this.
	Fake lakes cause quakes.
	And how we came up with this as a research team from StopTheCrying.net is we know that we're not running out of water, that water is a renewable.
	And we can get to it easily just down below the mantle of the earth.
	Again, I won't go into that fully right now, except that to capture the atmospheric water, which is what reservoirs and aqueducts do.
	They capture atmospheric water, which is only the secondary water supply.
	That toxic water that comes down from rain and snow melt is poisonous.
	It has chemtrailing toxins in it, Fukushima radiation, other bomb testing, Then it cascades over all of the poisoned farmlands and then is collected in a cauldron of toxic confinement called a reservoir.
	Now, reservoirs create impoundment on the earth when you have artificially contained water.
	Think of it like a bathtub.
	And it's sitting there.
	It's being artificially contained.
	And the weight and pressure of the water Also lubricates the fault plates and the geological structures under the reservoir, causing movement and to adjust to the pressure.
	And this movement causes quakes.
	And the majority of quakes are caused when the reservoirs are either being filled during rain events or snow melt events and or used for irrigation during the summer months.
	That transition of weight It exacerbates the movement and the earthquake aspect and this is known because we researched that and we found dams and man-made reservoirs trigger earthquakes and globally there are many identified cases of earthquakes that were triggered by reservoirs.
	One of the most serious ones was a 7.9 magnitude earthquake back in 2008 and Which killed about 80,000 people and was linked to the construction of the dam and reservoir.
	And we discovered, too, the problems with the big dams.
	By 2015, the dam industry had choked more than half of the Earth's major rivers with some 57,000 large dams.
	The consequences of this massive engineering program has been devastating, and the world's large dams have wiped out species, flooded huge areas of wetlands, forests, and farmlands, and displaced tens of millions of people.
	And what's important to understand is that the world's largest dams have replumbed that have left the planet fresh waters in far worse shape than any other major ecotype, including tropical rainforests, Earthquakes occur as these reservoirs fill with rainwater and water is released, as I was discussing.
	And there was an earthquake back in 1967.
	It was the Kona, C-O-Y-N-A earthquake, back in December 10th of 1967.
	And it's regarded as one of the most important examples of reservoir-induced seismic activity.
	Where 200 people were killed and thousands were injured.
	So fake lakes cause quakes.
	And this has been well known.
	And now we can look at the Oroville Reservoir and Dam as exactly that kind of a booby trap.
	And it is known.
	And the USGS is passing that off as don't worry.
	Well, I can tell you they're causing quakes.
	The other aspect that I discovered when I returned back from the UK, again, just here in the past week, was a document entitled National Significant Wildfire Potential Outlook.
	And this outlook shows the United States and the potential fire areas in the United States.
	And they're saying because Of the massive rainfall, we have a tremendous amount of grasses that have grown, and we do.
	We've had much more rain here in Northern California than we've had in many years.
	In fact, we've had some significant floods.
	North of San Francisco, about 60 miles, is a river called the Russian River, and it flows along and near Bohemian Grove.
	Several months ago, there were massive, massive floods, devastating a number of commercial buildings in the small town of Sebastopol, literally forcing economic chaos for that city by eliminating some of their tax base and their revenue from the commercial aspect of these buildings.
	Because these buildings were not only flooded out by water, but they used also, when I say they, the Weather weapons are also used to target wastewater treatment plants, and that's another aspect of a booby trap worldwide.
	And that was used here in Northern California, where they swamped a wastewater treatment plant, contaminating the low-lying water of the lagoons, etc.
	And this toxic water Was in these buildings and then flowed down the Russian River, wiping out thousands of homes.
	In fact, we just found out today that FEMA is not going to help any of these people that either lost their homes, because there are many homes that were red-tagged, meaning they're not able to reoccupy them.
	And there's many homes that were not red-tagged but have substantial damage in that area.
	They have to tear off wall boards, inside paneling, get rid of all floor coverings, etc.
	Because the water, this is so diabolical, but it was a high tide at that time as well, which I'm certain was all part of the plan because we've certainly done research on coastlines under attack.
	And when a high tide is present and there's massive flooding, The waters are not flowing out to the ocean as they would normally be able to, and the floodwaters back up and sit and further expand.
	And that's what happened during the flooding event here in Northern California.
	We're watching right now, Carrie, since returning back to Northern California, the last week or so we've had very heavily chemtrail skies.
	Lots of cloud structures.
	We know that when we're that heavily chemtrailed and we see these massive clouds with carbon black, they're going to be sending some type of storm event somewhere in the country to hit someone and somewhere.
	And such was the case in watching overhead.
	The Great Plains have had significant and unusual and diabolical weather as well as parts of Texas.
	We've been observing the same type of weaponization of the weather over the past day or so.
	So we're watching now where those weaponized assaults will be.
	It's very important to understand now that weather is being used to hit people if they're not obedient to the plans of those in control.
	And I can talk about that a little bit more because When we talked about the climate action plans at the conference, we talked about how the requirements were to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and lower the temperature of the planet.
	And they say that we must lower the temperature.
	And when you look at the plans, you read the climate action plans that we've gone through, you find and you hear and you read That the usage of machinery and equipment must date back to how we survived and lived back in 1750, the year 1750.
	So we can see right now how California and other areas worldwide, particularly in the industrialized areas, are being massively attacked.
	This is going to literally wipe out economies.
	This is the plan.
	The plan is to wipe out economies, decrease the standard of living, which we're seeing with the massive increase of homelessness all over the world.
	And when you look at the Coastlines Under Attack video that we have up on StopTheCrime.net, Coastlines Under Attack, you quickly learn that 70% of the world's population lives in the coastline areas.
	And we've discovered that In many of the city documents and the planning departments and building codes now along the coastlines, they're writing in what is called planned retreat and forced retreat, where you must abandon your home and move inland.
	And this is going to represent, in part, and particularly for the United States, one of the largest forced relocations of any Of any time in history, forced relocation of societies is in this forced plan retreat.
	So we have to understand we're under a worldwide government of occupation.
	And what is the definition of occupation?
	It means seizure and control of countries by military forces using weapon systems.
	So that is what we have.
	We're under a global incorporated reality.
	We're not just USA Inc., which is, of course, the United States is traded on the New York Stock Exchange, but we are Earth Inc.
	And I can go over that, but I think right now what I'll do, since you asked about the report from Iron Mountain, Alexandra, I wanted to certainly...
	Alert everybody to this report and suggest that they read the report from Iron Mountain.
	You can download it.
	But you can also watch the YouTube version of the report from Iron Mountain as well.
	Now the YouTube version of the report aligns the facts of the report with biblical scripture.
	So should you watch the 2 hour and 20 minute YouTube and you are not Necessarily religiously inclined.
	Certainly keep that in mind.
	But the report is showing how...
	Well, let me back up.
	In the early 60s, there were experts that were, about 15 experts, that were asked to look at what the United States would look like should the United States transition out of a time of war into peace.
	Now, war meant not using bombs, tanks, ships, and those types of military weapons systems, but peace meant a totalitarian total rule of society and finding some other method that would allow the elites, the rich men of this earth, to control the global population.
	So these experts worked on this and figured that what would be necessary to replace war would need to be invented.
	And it was decided that they would invent global warming, use the ecology as the worldwide weapons system to keep society in control and check, and to have an equal enemy that would Evoke death and certainly now we're seeing with climate change people that are being mind-controlled and manipulated with the false reality of climate change
	versus climate control have succumbed to this plot, this plan that was conceived during John F. Kennedy's administration.
	Now when John F. Kennedy was murdered The report was finished soon thereafter and handed over to then-President Johnson.
	Very nefarious, very evil.
	And because of the report also talking about the annual requirements to reduce the population and to increase pollution of the air, water supply, etc., the report was considered a hoax.
	It was never a hoax.
	And when you watch the YouTube report from Iron Mountain, again it's 2 hours and 20 minutes, it takes you through what was necessary to create the illusion of climate change.
	They said it would take a generation and a half from 1960s to get us to a point where we could believe that the earth was poisoned by us, when in fact It was intentionally poisoned by global government.
	And when governments were asked to clean up areas of pollution, they dragged their feet.
	I know many of you are aware of Superfund sites that are toxic areas where millions and millions of dollars are shifted to presumably clean up those Superfund sites.
	And it's interesting to note that many of those sites never get cleaned up.
	And that's all part of the intentional creation and the invention of climate change, aka global warming.
	So there has been a huge hoax perpetrated on the global population with the illusion of climate change.
	So I would recommend that everybody work hard to get reality out and understand that the policies now, the Green New Deal, for example, That we keep hearing about.
	It's not new.
	It's not green.
	And it's not a deal.
	The neuro-linguistic programming of our vocabulary and the word green around any of this smart technology is death.
	Do not think of green.
	Think of brown or whatever color symbolizes death to you.
	Because these climate action plans that we've been talking about now for years Our genocide programs and plans.
	Absolutely genocide programs and plans.
	And absolutely.
	And thank you very much, Deborah, for going over all of this.
	What I'd like to do is just go on to Alexandra so that we keep this roundtable.
	And I appreciate where you're going with all of this.
	I think I've been showing people the Iron Mountain report on the screen for the listeners while you've been talking about it.
	And I know that Alexandra wanted to focus on some areas as well.
	So if you could hold on to everything else you've got, which I know is good and more, and then we'll go to Alexandra.
	I'd like to say a few things and we'll come back to you.
	Is that all right?
	Absolutely.
	Okay.
	Thank you.
	And so far, this is just wonderful.
	So you've done, you know, a lovely job.
	So Alexandra, what I'd like to do is bring you on the screen here, have you go over some of the areas of your particular interest that you want to highlight.
	If you can start off with perhaps the Iron Mountain Report simply because Deborah has brought us round to that.
	If you don't mind, that would be great.
	Yeah, how I learned about it, it was from Deborah.
	I watched the video that Deborah is talking about yesterday, and it's on the StopTheCrime.net, new on Deborah's YouTube channel.
	And Deborah wrote to me that she recognized what I am writing about With this report, or what I am interested in looking at and working with, and I agree Really a lot and I would recommend this video.
	I believe it's William Bill Cooper who is speaking and just mentioned Bill Cooper was murdered on 5th of November 2001 and he exposed before his death already the holds of 9-11 in June 2001,
	before 9-11, he said, watch this, they are going to frame, in a way, frame Osama Bin Laden for this and for something that is coming, and it was 9-11.
	Then he was assassinated, murdered in November 2001, and Bill Cooper was also talking about the fraud of NASA And Vatican, he exposed Vatican also.
	And we should realize that this around us looks like peace, but this is war.
	It is war against humanity.
	And when people hear me talking, It's difficult to understand me.
	Part of it is that I really do not speak English so well, but part of it is, as one say, I am so deep in the rabbit hole and I would like to talk about it and explain quickly and also what we could do about it,
	explain quickly the way how we could We save humanity and ourselves, and it's difficult to understand.
	Maybe I have...
	I want to apologize for the last interview.
	I want to apologize with Kerry because my intention was in the beginning of the interview with Kerry just to confirm that we are, as one say, on the same page.
	The Illuminati are like this and that and the problem is this and then.
	And then in one and a half hour, Kerry, Cassidy and I could show the way how we could save humanity.
	It didn't work out because Carrie, we discussed it with Carrie afterwards, that Carrie believed that the head of Illuminati is a woman living in France.
	Is it so, Carrie?
	And I have worked with over six years, like all my vacant time, with games.
	The man who I believe, of course, is the head of Illuminati.
	His information, I was following his information.
	I was actually blocked his planned huge false flags because it's possible.
	I would like to learn.
	Everybody how to do it.
	It's quite simple.
	And also, I would like to speak about what we could do in the future to block this developing New World Order system, which is, if we don't do it now, then we can be done quite quickly.
	Because what I'm looking at is extermination within seven years, from seven and a half billion people to maybe a couple of million people.
	Totally enslaved.
	This, what I understand, is not worth living.
	I would like to talk in every first to expose and like say how it is right now, banking system, how it is right now, intelligent, military, education, media,
	just to put on print how bad it is in all spheres, judiciary system, and then what we could do to To eradicate this evil.
	And I cannot do it without believing that the head of Illuminati lives in the United States.
	It makes sense that he lives in the United States, that the international language is English.
	It's obvious that it's not French.
	He comes from Belgium, Antwerpen region, and radio headquarters of NATO and European Union.
	It's Brussels, Belgium.
	It's like they have built this country for him to be there.
	One has to also recognize that their religion is Satanic, Luciferian, and that this religion should be forbidden in all countries that's called democracy,
	or it's incompatible with It's actually a Nazi religion, because you want to exterminate people, you want to sacrifice people.
	And I would like to talk also about this blood game, social purification, that is mentioned in the Iron Mountain report, because since I learned I can see how many of these rituals are on TVs, on television also.
	So it's what I would like to do.
	And in my view, the head of Illuminati is William Van Daun.
	It's how he looks now.
	He says that he would like to change his appearance.
	He said how he What would look like?
	Also, I have noticed, I have listened to that, and when I went to the court in Prague here in Czech Republic and wrote about him exactly as a psychiatrist, how he is functioning, working, he took down his whole YouTube channel that he started in November 2013.
	He is using impersonators, So it's not him who does.
	And I can tell you one of many, many examples.
	We had here a European Eurovision Song Contest.
	It's like not even one week ago.
	And Madonna, the pop singer Madonna, was performing there.
	What I see first, her first You see her.
	You see that she has over one eye X. X is the same as 666, the Antichrist.
	So I know in that moment she is going to deliver a message, an important message, from William Van Dao because he is X. He is 666.
	And if you listen to it, what she's singing, it's It's about genocide.
	Not everybody will survive something in that...
	I don't remember the words, but it's about genocide.
	You will be genocided, actually.
	And then she goes a letter, which is a representation for me of some who've done attack.
	I can talk about it later, and I have talked about it before.
	And the song ends, like this last seconds, you see an upside-down cross, satanic.
	So Satanism, Luciferianism, and Nazism, to me, it's the religion of Nazism.
	And when you say, Deborah, USA, Inc., What I believe we should have some kind of two-state solution, temporary two-state solution, and we could leave or the people who are part of the conspiracies against the people could remain in the USA Inc.
	and pay the whole debt, what they have.
	Done against us and we put there Ted Turner, who's disinformation, and Bush, and even those who are working for the 5G surveillance with satellites,
	which is Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk and their companies, because they are planning to launch thousands of Satellites for the 5G surveillance and RFID chip, Nazi system.
	It's, for me, close to Nazi system.
	They can remain there, and then we build a non-honorable, and I mean real honor, not this fake honor of the Illuminati, honorable Free Republic of the United States, the other one we call fascism, We're in the same France, the same Czech Republic.
	It's no Republic.
	It's already now qualifying for a fascistic state as I see it.
	Sweden, the same, Norway, and, of course, UK. And remember that UK, France, United States have nuclear power, which means we The real humans who want others to live should take control over the nuclear weapons,
	but you have a much worse weapon now that they are hiding, and one of them is some Hoover Dam.
	Some Hoover Dam.
	And it would be easy, actually, to prevent it.
	So, I would like to talk later about how we could specifically do, maybe to start the two reports that I'm talking about, what Deborah and Kerry believes about it, to put on paper, well, media is better like this, Banking system is set like this for humanity, good for the banksters.
	And then next report how we will...
	like the blueprint against this journey, how we will do it.
	Okay.
	Thank you, Alexandra.
	Now, it seems that you have had several statements about how you believe you are able to Fight or turn around the situation, but you haven't actually addressed that.
	So why don't you talk very specifically, at least for the next five or ten minutes, explaining how you're suggesting that people work to sort of stop these various issues.
	programs and then I'll certainly speak after that.
	Okay.
	I just show a book that you participated in and it's a very simple book.
	So what can I do?
	You were interviewed, Kerry, David Ike, Uledame Gort, who is the partner of Of the editor, Kim Kamala Ekman.
	And in this book, I am translated into its Czech language.
	And David Icke answered her simple questions.
	How you could make the other people who are still sleeping, how could you start to...
	Talk about all this conspiracy and he says, start with talking about the money.
	So if we say the banking system and the virtual currency that they want to have, the Illuminati, on the RFID chips that we should definitely prevent, and the head of Illuminati, William Bardaw, His word, he can be quite provocative and quite...
	like he knows that I'm a psychiatrist, so he can push buttons or how you call it.
	He says, I will make all of you depend on me.
	So I was thinking, how could we reverse this with money, not By law, not give them the opportunity to take care of the retirement and other...
	Well, I was thinking if we have the country that we have, but if we split that some kind of leader, anti-Nazi, anti-New World Order leader, we know who it is, will...
	We're working together with the other people who are in this, take a certain part of land.
	For example, I can tell you an example.
	This so-called Czech Republic or fascist Czech, it's 10 million people and you've got logically split Like nine regions with some one million people.
	And you would, as this leader who would take down this New World Order, you have the responsibility also for the air above you and below you.
	So, of course, naturally, I would chose someone who forbids the chemtrails immediately and that we don't get more nano the newborn babies will not get more nano just to stop you there so you're suggesting but you're suggesting how that would happen exactly if you are
	a leader and Start maybe with the media that we have been fooled and by law you must get real information with Everything.
	So you're suggesting, just to get specific, you're suggesting that a person step forward, that people agree is the leader, and they will then put in place more beneficial policies, etc.
	Is that what you're saying?
	But you can't do that step until you get rid of the current regime.
	How do you plan to get rid of the current regime?
	Yes, I work within the legal system now in Czech Republic.
	You know that they have attacked me and they wanted to get me in prison without any conviction in the end of 2017.
	It was actually the very same day, 6th of December 2017, when Donald Trump announced the move of the embassy in Jerusalem, which I believe was that they picked the date, the specific date in this court.
	I believe they had to do it with somebody above.
	I told them it must be, it was like ritual, ritualistic because I would be put behind bars and it's natural because the head of Illuminati is the one who wants to, like, that he has the opportunity to come to Jerusalem.
	He wants to build a church temple and actually why now I'm But why the agreement, the peace deal between Palestine and Israel is not signed yet by Donald Trump is that it's William Van Dam who wants to sign it.
	Okay, what has that got to do with you going to court?
	I'm not sure I see the connection.
	Since middle of March 2013, As a single person, I'm doing something that nobody, anybody could do it.
	Anybody could do what I do, block this man, what he's planning to kill people.
	Okay, and how do you think you're blocking him exactly?
	How do you think you're blocking him?
	You have seen some time on my warnings, you have got them and Deborah has got them.
	You believe it's a rubbish, it's nonsense.
	As long as you believe that it's rubbish and nonsense.
	I don't believe.
	Actually, that's not true.
	You shouldn't put words in my mouth.
	But, you know, I would say that it, you know, it's nice that you put out warnings.
	You've been putting out the same warning now for at least five years.
	Nothing has happened, okay, so in that regard, with regard to Hoover Dam.
	Now, that isn't to say there are researchers that talk about how Hoover Dam can make a problem, but it hasn't happened, okay?
	So, at some point, they are going to have earth changes.
	There's no doubt about it.
	I appreciate your...
	Your intent, you wish to change things.
	But I'm afraid that going into court in Czechoslovakia is not going to affect the Illuminati and their plans in any way.
	And just out of curiosity, what is happening with your current case?
	Are you still in court?
	And what are you in court for?
	Well, I'm defending myself and using the opportunity to speak about 5G and the satellites.
	So I am using the opportunity to attack them with other things.
	So what I was hoping, for example, today, that we could have some discussion about the legality or If we could consider even the EU and European Union and the Parliament as legal.
	And with this, what you would say, I was hoping to go today or tomorrow to the court and say that it's illegal.
	We have here in In Europe election into parliament.
	I got from Sweden.
	It's 26th of May and in Czech I can vote in both, I guess.
	Okay, well elections are actually Rigged and meaningless.
	So I appreciate that, but I don't think elections are really going to help us.
	But thank you.
	I mean, I understand your intention.
	I'm afraid that there's not...
	There's not a through line, but I appreciate that, you know, if you go to court and they keep you in court and you are able to have a sort of a platform in court and they let you sit there and talk to a courtroom, well, that's very nice.
	I'm not sure it's going to go anywhere.
	Well, what I was hoping, the most of your viewers are American.
	They cannot...
	Of course I wouldn't go to an election, but what I was thinking that maybe a few Europeans are watching us and that we could say what we could write instead, that I go to vote and I vote to Stop to finish this European Union and I want to have economic compensation for what
	they have wasted money.
	So I would go to vote and put...
	My real name is Jitka.
	Jitka Broziková is saying that your European Union Union is illegal because of this and this and this and that.
	I want you to finish it within a couple of months or decide that the European Union will perish and I want to have compensation what I have invested.
	And because I have paid a lot of taxes, my salary was one million Swedish crowns.
	Well, I don't know the course now.
	In Sweden, I have paid certainly half of it to European Union, to CERN, to Vatican.
	So they should be concerned how to take down Bilderberg Group, which is a Yes, of course, we would agree with all of that.
	So you're saying that you're bringing a case.
	In other words, have you brought a case to court on these bases in Europe, in Czechoslovakia, or do you want to do it in the future?
	Are you asking people to...
	I was hoping to talk about it also and even the little details like Deborah was talking, for example, about that we have to account for the electricity that we are using if you have a house and you are going to sell it.
	Why do we have to do that?
	Do you know, Deborah, what I'm talking about?
	Well, yes, I think what you're talking about with the electricity And that would be the allotment that's soon going to be allocated for everybody that's not only using electricity but water as well.
	That's the intention for the global wireless electric smart grid, the smart meters, and also the intention for the global wireless water meters.
	And those are fairly well deployed worldwide at this point.
	And the intention and the purpose for that Is to cut off any given user's excessive use once they can start implementing the shutdown of the grid.
	Okay, but before we get into that...
	I'd like to talk about what I discovered today, but I won't go off until it's my turn again.
	Yeah, if you don't mind.
	So, I hope that you have said what you wanted to say, Alexandra, and I understand that you're putting sort of the...
	You know, word out to people that are in your area of Europe that perhaps they can try to help you with your case that you would like to bring within the courts of Czechoslovakia.
	And do you have a contact information that we can put out so that they know where to contact you?
	Yeah, well, my homepage will be finished within one month.
	My email is fromillusion2reality at email.cz But what I especially want to do now today is to take the opportunity to encourage other people to write, to go to vote, not vote, but write that this is illegal because of this and this and that.
	The European Union and I want this European Union is finished this year, 2019, because of this and this and that freedom of speech is close to zero and all these things.
	It's what I would like to encourage.
	I will go to court for sure before the election this week, but I want to encourage others.
	I'm not voting, but I'm voting to finish this fraud and I want economic compensation for this.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So we've put the word out in that regard and I do appreciate your intention.
	So at this point, I just want to say that I have gotten a lot of information about artificial intelligence.
	I have talked about it to some degree and I think that that is really the name of the game going forward.
	The Illuminati are not the ones in charge.
	They are actually more or less reporting to various E.T. groups and there are militaries that are also running the game and there are black magicians.
	People don't often realize this, but military officers such as Michael Aquino, for example, are dark magicians and that the magicians, the Illuminati are actually made up of magicians.
	So it is a You know, a coven, a group of, you know, covens, for lack of a better word for it.
	And they report to various, you know, they have their own pyramid, if you will.
	And it goes all the way up to the Black Pope.
	And certainly he is the representative in the public arena.
	And then we also have, of course, the White Pope, who, in my opinion, is not necessarily, well, is not, you know, part of what we call the light.
	But all of this is also run by the reptilians and the whole reptilian agenda, which is what The whole Catholic Church and drinking blood, etc.
	is all about.
	So there are many aspects to this.
	And it's important, perhaps, for people to understand that Project Camelot has been reporting on the Iron Mountain report since our very beginning which is 14 years ago and we had a particular witness who brought that report forward at that time saying that he was in the military and is a scientist and he was told that we are the wolves and they are the sheep And then given the Iron Mountain Report and
	told to basically learn it.
	And of course, the Georgia Guidestones contain the information of their plans.
	And this has been out there As you say, since the time of William Cooper and before this was reported in Behold a Pale Horse, his very well-known book, and so on.
	So this has been a thread going through this sort of alternative sector, people that are awake and aware who understand that there is and has always been a population reduction agenda and Certainly global warming and that whole sort of false You know ecological focus it was is was and is all about making
	humans Basically spend a lot of their time Almost in a certain sense psychologically and certainly Alexandra you should appreciate this but they are supposed to think they are bad and they are the reason for the so-called global warming and in In regard to some of the things Deborah said,
	Deborah, in regard to the weather wars, of course, this has been talked about for quite some time, and we've had multiple interviews with people about weather wars and the weapons behind them.
	Tom Bearden is one of the people that was, I don't know if he's still alive now, but he popularized a lot of the weapons behind The electromagnetic directed energy weapons, information about them and the technology behind them.
	And, of course, Nick Bagage, who brought forward, you know, angels don't play this harp, and so on as to the technology behind harp.
	So there have been lots of, and more than one harp, there were harps in Europe and Russia as well, and so on.
	And of course, CERN, which is actually opening portals to allow the reptilians to bring equipment in.
	And what's going on in portals and stargates around the world, which is a very key area as to how our militaries are dealing with off-planet races at this given time.
	And how the dark magicians are working with these sort of diabolical races.
	Not all of the races are diabolical.
	Some are actually working for us.
	And of course, if you follow Camelot, you know some of the races such as the Pleiadians and various information that has been put out about that by William Tompkins and other witnesses.
	And so we're really talking not about one man and his desires, but of a very large group that is If you want to call it the top of the triangle, the eye in the pyramid, so to speak.
	But it really goes back to before that person was ever alive, which has to do with Egypt, the fall of Atlantis, and so on.
	So we're really talking about a...
	A heritage, something that has been brought down through Rome and their domination of the East and also of the Middle East and the possible war with Iran that they're actually gearing up for, the plans that really involve attacking.
	Really, it's going through Iran to get at China.
	So that's really the agenda.
	And there have been various...
	Prophecies and various information all about this, of the Dome of the Rock, how it will be destroyed.
	And Sean David Morton has talked about this at length, and other people.
	And so these plans have been in place for a very long time.
	And certainly, it's good to remember the Iron Mountain Report, but also to realize that the project for the New American Century, that was the one where Rumsfeld and those particular individuals that basically planned 9-11,
	I've had in mind as a trigger, if you will, to then take down the various countries in the Middle East like dominoes, and they are still on that path.
	So it is very possible that if the Trump administration doesn't change that trajectory, If they aren't able to, because it's like a train going down a track.
	It was started a long time ago.
	And so turning it or actually stopping it is going to cause...
	It's necessary for the world's populations to get together and to wake up.
	And so that's what we work on every day here and is waking people up to realize, you know, what the triangle of power is all about, what the various groups that have power within that.
	We have gone into the financial sector, And talked about that in depth.
	We've talked to people that have knowledge in that area as well.
	And then the sort of new kid on the block, if you will, is basically artificial intelligence and how it's being rolled out.
	And of course, 5G is a big part of that.
	So I do want to say that recently, to get back sort of more to the ground and nuts and bolts things, England did put out a recent media report saying that they have had a problem with their streetlights and the 5G, and that there is...
	A problem which they're going to take two years to fix.
	Now, whether or not that report is accurate and whether or not they'll actually delay 5G's rollout as a consequence in England, we shall see.
	However, they were already getting fairly far along, according to Mark Steele, who we had on my show, and Other individuals who've been talking about what's going on with 5G. I can say that my understanding is the real...
	This battleground, if you will, is now happening with regard to what's called Huawei or Huawei, depending on how you want to pronounce it, which is the Chinese company backed by China that has infiltrated through their networks not only Asia,
	but many European countries, and very specifically, Holland recently I put a report out in the media saying they had discovered that Huawei had put in a backdoor into their technology, into their hardware, and England has been using their hardware, and that was a leak that came out a few last in the past about a month ago.
	And basically, I have gotten back channel information There is a part of the English that, again, this goes back to Michael Shrimpton, my interviews with him.
	He is someone who has followed intelligence and been quite involved in the back channels of English intelligence.
	He's an English barrister.
	And basically talking about the German, the Nazi infiltration, that the Nazis, as many will know, didn't actually lose the war per se, or at least they lost the battle that happened in Nazi Germany.
	You want to call it that.
	But they then resurfaced, of course, in the United States, in NASA, and in Argentina.
	In parts of the Russian secret space program, as well as in Britain and in areas of intelligence and places of power in these countries' governments.
	As well, of course, we're talking about Brussels and we're talking about, you know, the European Union and so on.
	It's also very important to keep in mind that this obware, as they called it, the German intelligence and the DVD, as is referred to, have infiltrated our governments.
	And so there are players on both sides of that fence.
	And Huawei is very important as is AI and 5G because if they get a leg into, such as they have already in terms of Holland and in terms of then Britain, which has already happened, through 5G and through their technology, then they will have a basis by which to Infiltrate our networks in the United States.
	So far, Huawei has been banned from the United States.
	And they are actually putting in...
	My sources are telling me that the Trump administration is putting in barriers against Huawei.
	And this trade war that's under the cover of, at least in the mainstream press, what's called the The trade war with China, but what it really is, is actually a war, and it is a war that's going to involve artificial intelligence on both sides of the street,
	so to speak, and that it is going to involve How weather, you know, because even if we weren't eliminated, let's say, by various weapons, which of course they've already tried to put in place through weather wars, through, you know, fluorescent lights, through the terrible food and the water and the so on.
	But of course, those are all ways to also weaken the older generations where they hope to kill those people off through Also making money through the big pharma.
	And then at a certain point, you know, they have to eliminate through war is how they eliminate younger generations of soldiers that are basically young men that could rebel against them.
	Take up arms against them, so they have to eliminate a certain amount of them, and so on.
	And of course, in the Middle East, you've got tons of unemployed young men who are growing up, who are sort of sitting around on the streets, who can be recruited into ISIS, and that is run by the CIA behind the scenes, as well as British intelligence.
	And so the story goes.
	Now, we are battling various, not only the future of AI, but we're also battling It groups that use AI and are bringing AI in with them.
	So this is a very now topic.
	It's why Elon Musk is talking about it.
	It's why they're talking about a simulation that we're living in a simulation and that gets into the artificial intelligence.
	The fact that this entire Hologram, if you want to call it, could be seen as the way you might see a video game, a virtual reality, so to speak.
	So these are concepts, and I know they're big concepts.
	I'm not able to get into detail on them right this minute, but I can say that when you discuss the elimination of population or the changes that they want to see, they're also, they want A population of passive super soldiers, which are at their bidding.
	And this is what they're putting into our bodies.
	And I did a show recently on how you can test yourself.
	I'm using this red wine test to see how much nano you have in your body at this time.
	It's plentiful, believe it or not.
	You know, believe me.
	And, of course, the chemtrails.
	And I'm going to get to you very shortly here.
	Deborah, and I do want to say that yes, the chemtrails are actually unrelenting.
	So we know that Trump has not stopped chemtrails, but there's a number of reasons for that.
	So people have to understand that Trump and the chemtrails is not a one-layer thing that they're doing.
	They are putting certain diseases Weakening our genome so that certain diseases, if they roll them out, like measles, as you've heard lately, and other things that they decide to roll out, whatever it happens to be, will eliminate some of the population.
	They've always hoped for that.
	It's never actually worked the way they wanted it to, but they seem to, bioweapons, they never stop trying.
	Then there are things to do with the battles going on with various ET races above the layer of cloud cover and I fly a lot and I can tell you that it's an amazing thing how they can conduct a battle above our heads and we would never know it and I've talked on other Broadcasts about an individual who filmed some of those battles.
	These battles do continue.
	Once in a while, they sort of Accidentally get into the mainstream, you'll hear about, you know, certain things that have exploded or lights in the sky or whatever it happens to be.
	And so on, or off the California coast, for example.
	And we've got underground bases and undersea bases where some of these battles are taking place as well.
	And certainly the portals and some of the battles going on in Syria are For example, in war zones where they are covering that up, the chemtrails are also delivering.
	It's a delivery system.
	So from what I understand, the nano is a delivery system.
	They put the nano in the chemtrails.
	The chemtrails get into our food and water.
	Then they enter our bodies.
	And this is also how the artificial intelligence will eventually enter our bodies, it is said.
	So, you know, it's a very big story, what we're talking about, and it comes from many, many angles.
	There is not just one perpetrator.
	There are so many and so many different fronts under which they operate.
	Sometimes they work together at the very top, and sometimes they are at sort of each other's throats, if you want to call it that.
	So you can keep an eye on that sort of trend.
	The Russians are not our enemies.
	The Russians are working with us very much in the secret space program, but also in other ways, even in the Middle East.
	And if you know anything about the Billy Meyer Pleiadian Henoch prophecies, you'll know that some of those things are actually Have come true.
	And one of those has to do with this war, with coming war, possible coming war.
	I hope it is avoided, but with Iran and China and that Russia will be siding with the U.S. in that, as will Britain.
	But right now it's interesting that Britain is being so infiltrated that they are actually, you know, holding on to their Huawei technology, which is hardware.
	And refusing to let go of it.
	And that, I believe, is what the streetlight delay for the next two years is really all about.
	It's whether or not Britain is going to be a true ally to the United States and what they call the Five Eyes, or whether Britain is actually going to be split.
	Possibly because of the Illuminati influence in Britain.
	It's in many ways one of the centers, of course, of the dark magicians and Satanism, etc.
	So this is where all of that rubber starts to meet the road, if you will.
	So it's a drama that's playing out.
	We're all part of it.
	And I want to thank both of you for being part of this discussion so far.
	Now I'm going to turn this over to Debra to bring us up to date again on your meetings and your presentation in Britain and also these other things that you might want to pick up on and continue talking about.
	Yes, well thank you so much, Carrie.
	In relationship and regards to some of the things you said, I would recommend that everybody watch the movie Vice, V-I-V. to understand what happened with Cheney as the Vice President.
	I highly recommend it.
	And one of the aspects of that that is most important to observe is the way in which Frank Luntz, L-U-N-T-Z, who is A very well-known psychologist has gotten on the ground floor of manipulating society in that they test various groups to see what they will agree to that will get the actionable
	policy that they want in place and how they will psychologically maneuver the groups.
	You can see that in Vice, V-I-C-E. And that's one of the aspects of the takedown that I talk about, and how did we get to where we are?
	And there are many stepping stones to where we are, but I'll talk about that in just a minute.
	But I certainly do want to talk about the connections and the cooperation that exists across the world with the cooperation between Canada China, the European Union, India, Japan, the Federation of Russia, the United States, and more.
	All of these countries are working together to create a space-based weapons system of lasers from space.
	And this is called Solarin, S-O-L-A-R-E-N. It is a space solar power plant.
	Because of the admission now out of the Harvard Belford Kennedy School that they are going to increase solar dimming.
	They already have, of course, but now they are actually admitting it.
	And because of the increased solar dimming, we are being told that the ground-based solar systems will not be efficient and that there will be a requirement to have Face solar power from space in satellites.
	And how they're going to sell this to us as more and more people become aware of how our utility companies are holding back this secret, because this is what's happening here in California with Pacific Gas and Electric, which is, again, all utilities are run by Rothschild.
	And the secret is that the failings of Pacific Gas and Electric, the bankruptcy, it's all an illusion.
	While they are reorganizing and working towards a new system of electricity, which includes weaponization of commercial-based solar power and use of satellites.
	So there are many patents that collectively, these various countries that are all working together, again, we're not only USA, Inc., we are Earth, Inc.
	And we don't have the enemies that we're being told we have.
	The only reason that we're being told we have enemies is to keep us agreeing to spend tax money in wars.
	And again, I think the report from Iron Mountain is significant in pointing that out.
	But the Solarin Corporation, which is based in Southern California, has a number of patents for transmitting microwave-directed energy from space to pinpoint locations all over the Earth.
	And one of the patents, well actually I'll discuss a couple of them, a solar-powered satellite will generate a powerful microwave radio frequency beam focused on an array of collector antennas Where the beam will be transformed to electrical power supplied to Pacific gas and electric.
	Another patent, a solar-powered satellite, will generate a powerful microwave radio frequency beam to control the weather by heating deployments of aluminum oxide or other conductive particulates sprayed from aircraft.
	This patent describes the methods of steering and changing the intensity of hurricanes.
	And other weapon events and weather events.
	So China, when you type in China and the Solarin, you'll find that China looks to secure the space superpower status as well, solar from space, with Earth-orbiting power plants.
	And some of the excerpts from what China's talking about says that China plans to construct a series of space-based solar farms China's solar farms are expected to be built and launched between the year 2021 and 2025.
	And they will be able to supply energy back to Earth at six times the intensity of solar farms that are based on Earth.
	And they go on to say that China's solar farms in space will have an inexhaustible source of clean energy for humans with power transmitted by microwaves Or advanced phototonics and transmission unaffected by our planet's day or night cycle or our weather events.
	So we've certainly been warned throughout the millennium of many things that have been occurring.
	Certainly JFK, who during that period of time, the report from Iron Mountain came out and We were warned, he told us, that there was an infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, and on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day.
	He warned us that it is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, Now,
	Carrie, when I was searching for my presentation on the smart meters back at the conspiracy conference, I believe that was back in 2012, I found a mission statement that was horrifying to me at the time, and I have it up on Stomp the Crime, but I found it under the Pennsylvania Smart Infrastructure Incubator.
	And it talked about a hidden secret that was being held back from the world and how there would be a blend of traditional physical infrastructure in transportation, transit systems, buildings, pipes, the power grid, concrete, and steel.
	And there would be cyber infrastructure, computers, networks, and sensors in ways they said then that were just emerging.
	And they have this hidden secret that they were anxious to let the world know about.
	So secret after secret, certainly we were also warned.
	Back in 1956, the former FBI director said that the individuals would be handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous, cannot believe it exists, and that it simply has not come to the realization of the evil which has been introduced into our midst and our minds reject even the assumption that humans and creatures could espouse a philosophy which must ultimately destroy all that is good and
	decent.
	This is a partial quote from J. Edgar Hoover back in 1956.
	We also know that through the educational system there was planned enslavement through lack of knowledge Another very important document for everyone to download is Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars and understanding what that document had to tell us about what we're talking about in the roundtable right now.
	And while I was recently in Ireland, there was a worldwide demonstration by kids in school.
	And they were looking at some pictures that I saw in newspapers back there in Ireland.
	And it says, we have to act now.
	Climate is changing.
	And we aren't.
	And there's a growing fear by the young people that have been psychologically programmed and mind-controlled into the belief that there are too many people using too much stuff.
	And sadly, I have to say, in witnessing this, those young people that have been programmed into believing this fraudulent lie, this invented use of the ecology by those that have the money and the power and the technology, are as horrified for their life and their existence as those that recognize this is all weather weapons.
	And we're as equally horrified So we have a split right there, a life-threatening split between two opposing sets of realities or non-realities.
	So, again, it's important to understand that the United States federal government exists today in name only.
	Our monetary system was taken over.
	We were taken off the gold standard.
	We are now, in fact, the enemy.
	And I can say that should be pretty clear to everybody that's listening, no matter where you are in the world.
	We are the enemy.
	I certainly refer to Senate Report 93549, which talks about the annual state of national emergency that's declared by every sitting president.
	And we are under a perpetual, non-ending war of terror, where everything is run through executive orders.
	We do not have an electrical Election system.
	That's all part of the illusion to keep us in the illusion of a representative government, and obviously that is not the case.
	What we discovered is in order to find and discover this for yourself, you can type in any branch of the military or any government agency.
	Say, for example, you type in your local health department.
	Followed by climate change.
	And you will find that they're all aligning themselves to the policies of climate change.
	Why is this important to recognize and understand?
	Because it's climate control, it's not climate change.
	And even the American Bar Association, adopted by the House of Delegates, this was back in August 12th of 2003, And it said in part, let it be resolved that the American Bar Association recognizes that good governance and the rule of law are essential to achieving sustainable development.
	Further resolved that the American Bar Association reaffirms its 1991 commitment to sustainable development and adopts the internationally accepted concept of sustainable development as recognized at the United Nations Conference and environment and development in 1992 and subsequent international conferences and achievement of the environmental protection,
	economic development, social development and peace for present and future generations.
	Our legal system has been taken.
	Every aspect of what we believe represents us has been taken.
	So we refer oftentimes to one of the quotes out of the Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars document where they talk about a silent weapons system operates upon data obtained from a docile public by legal but not always lawful force.
	When the government is able to collect tax and seize private property without justification, it is an indication that the public is ripe for surrender And is consenting to enslavement and legal encroachment.
	And they say this, war is therefore the balancing of the system by killing the true creditors, that would be all of us, the public, which we have been taught to exchange true value for inflated currency and falling back on what is left of the resources of nature and the regeneration of those resources.
	The resources of nature are being poisoned and contaminated.
	Our oceans are poisonous and contaminated.
	Our forests, our ground, our water, unless you're getting to primary water, and I'll talk about that in a minute.
	But I want to refer to a couple of documents, one we received from Whistleblower some time ago, When you go to StopTheCrime.net, go to the original website because we're in the process of transitioning from the original site to the newer site where we're hoping it will be easier to navigate.
	But in the original website, you will find a document and it's entitled, and you can type this in the search on StopTheCrime.net, Aquarius Group Operation Briefing.
	Aquarius Group Operation Briefing.
	And this is a document that was revealed discussing the planned chemical sedation of the population using radio microwave frequencies for mass mind control.
	And these are just a few of the excerpts from that document.
	For example, from page one, They talk about electromagnetic radio wave and microwave pulse.
	Mind warfare has great advantages in that desired subjects or populations have no knowledge of the procedure being implemented.
	So that, of course, would go into the millions of people worldwide that are considered targeted individuals.
	We are all targeted, however.
	It's just the various different programs that we're being targeted with.
	And on page two, they talk about mind control and the chemical manipulation and saturation that has achieved over the past 20 years of implementation with this purpose in mind and is achieved by deliberate,
	overt introduction through exposure or consumption on behalf of the population base In everyday usage of public water supplies, airborne pollutants, and chemical agents in a wide variety of foodstuffs.
	And this report is extremely revealing.
	It talks about how individuals can be individually mind-controlled to become assassins or lone wolf assassins.
	We're seeing that occurring in many of the targeting events that we're seeing worldwide.
	This would certainly talk about how this is being initiated and planned.
	And on page 50, the Aquarius operations briefing are pictures of cell phone towers and towers.
	And we discussed that in the NASA war document.
	I'm going to go over some of the NASA war document, Carrie, because you talked about aspects of poisoning with nanobots, etc.
	The NASA War Plan is on StopTheCrime.net.
	I refer to it as the NASA War Plan, but it's actually called Future Strategic Issues, Future Warfare Circa 2025.
	And this was a PowerPoint that was delivered by Dennis Bushnell, who's the chief NASA scientist out of the Langley Research Center.
	This was delivered as a PowerPoint just a couple of months before 9-11.
	And the topic of this plan are bots, Borgs, and humans.
	And all of the military agencies are involved.
	They're all working together.
	There's a list of the various agencies in the plan on page 3.
	It's not an entirely inclusive list, but you will see the enormity of the military and the aspects of the Department of Defense, etc., But it's all about, and much to do about, not only the profound technological disruption, but we are in a multi-front war and many levels, as Terry, you discussed many of those levels.
	And the plan tells us how we need to plan differently because the world is in the throes of a triple exponential internet of things, bio, nano, Technological revolution.
	And they say changes are occurring at scales of months instead of decades.
	And they talk about how humans have taken over and vastly shortened evolutions of the planet and that global warming, pollution, deforestation, and huge public works.
	They mention the Gorges Dam.
	Now, the Three Gorges Dam is in China.
	And they talk about destroying the dams, as I mentioned earlier when I spoke.
	And certainly those dams would not be beyond the use as a weapon, because it's mentioned in here as the dams being used as weapons.
	They talk about the human species and the cross species and molecular breeding.
	And directed evolution.
	Also, there's an interesting comparison about the technological ages of humankind, and they go through the hunter-gatherer period of time, the agricultural period of time that was up through the 1800 AD,
	industrial 1800 to 1950, and then the IT, which is Biological, Internet of Things, nano, automating industry and agriculture.
	And then from up and beyond 2020, they talk about virtual robotization and the industry of nanotechnology and more in the virtual reality.
	How soon, and we're seeing it now, the transformation into everything being telecommuting, shopping, entertainment, travel, education, medicine, commerce, and politics, and socialization.
	We're being cut off from one another through the wireless devices that we are finding that we're in a virtual reality in.
	This is a mixed reality.
	I was noticing this certainly when I was on the trains in London.
	And we had a situation of urgency occur and it was fascinating to see the absolute disregard and the inability to disconnect from the wireless dopamine effect that everyone was experiencing by being behind their devices and not even noticing that there was a situation on the train.
	So they talk about some IT predictions Back in this document, the NASA War document, they of course discuss, which we now know, about wearable and implantable electronics and communications and computing, sensory augmentation, health monitoring, brain stimulation and more.
	We know all of this.
	So I look at this document as a checklist for how we're moving through the AI and other aspects of what we see as global changes.
	They talk about AI and beyond and computing, and they talk about the machine capabilities, and they say by the year 2030, a PC will have the collective computing power of a town full of human minds.
	And this is Hive Mining, and this is, of course, where we're headed, as you had mentioned, Carrie, as well.
	Global problems and solutions, and the solutions are not solutions for the preservation of mankind or animal or the planet.
	But they see the serious problems they indicate as energy, water, food, land, population growth, wealth generation, and pollution and warming.
	What is intended is to eliminate all haves and have-nots.
	We will all be on an even footing.
	They also talk about the biomass and the food and the seawater irrigation and current wastelands.
	And we know that they're talking about desalinization because of the idea that we're running out of water.
	We're not running out of water.
	Go into that in a little bit.
	But they talk about the demise of the U.S. underclasses and the stabilization of the world population.
	And as I said, the equalization of haves and have-nots.
	Altered political military outlooks worldwide changes everything.
	And that's what we need to understand.
	And emerging laws and enforcement issues, they're concerned and mentioning, not concerned, but how laws will be required to change because of privacy and the ubiquitous micro and nano sensors and the Internet of Things and the crime, which will be wide spectrum, we're seeing that.
	All the biocrime, the binary pathogens, and the genetics, and protection of Human electronic implants.
	Certainly a big concern.
	Thank you.
	I just want to stop you there.
	We are getting towards the end of this sort of two-hour segment.
	And so we're going to have to try to wrap up.
	But I did want to say one thing.
	Recently, I heard that they are actually predicting crime.
	And this is already...
	I was told it was already in effect.
	So they're already using computers and using AI in cities, and they're starting to do what happened in the Minority Report, if you remember that movie.
	Absolutely.
	And they are starting to target and basically...
	Zero in on certain areas where they are predicting, this AI is predicting, individuals that they have targeted are going to commit certain crimes.
	And, of course, this opens up the whole idea.
	Yeah, the pre-crime.
	Yes.
	And that also keep in mind that this there's another side to that having to do with influencing the people who would be close to committing these things to actually going forward with them.
	So pre-crime, meaning they're not just predicting human behavior, but they're the next side of that has to do with influencing human behavior so that the humans that they target are already, you know, you can imagine a building close to toppling.
	then they just push him just a little bit.
	That's how they also kill a lot of people, especially people in our sector who have health issues.
	They just push them a little bit further.
	And so they're, in essence, they're killing them, but they're using, and this is an Illuminati tactic worldwide, they go with the flow.
	And I've said this before, but I think it bears repeating.
	To sort of have your wits about you with that.
	Understanding that they're going to use whatever is at their disposal.
	And this is how they use the Bible.
	The Bible is a playbook to plan and then to make people sort of amenable to whatever they're planning.
	Because they've been hearing about it for so long.
	So they plant it as a meme.
	If you understand the idea of a meme, it becomes almost like a disease, a self-fulfilling prophecy, if you will, within the human genome because humans are highly suggestible.
	And some, of course, are more suggestible than others.
	And, for example, people that actually...
	Are downloading information and or doing what's called channeling, especially those that don't have good ego barriers, are no longer in control of their own bodies.
	They're not in control of who they are.
	And they can be taken over, even temporarily, to commit a crime or a number of crimes.
	And this is where we also...
	Yeah, Carrie, they call that Palantir, and they've already initiated that in many large cities right now.
	Right.
	And that's the pre-crime.
	And this is where we're also getting, you know, you get gunmen in schools and all of this kind of thing.
	These individuals are being programmed on a daily basis, voice to skull, various techniques.
	Absolutely.
	So it's an ongoing thing, but it absolutely, you know, it's on point, what you were bringing up.
	I wanted to say that very quickly.
	Now, again, limited time.
	Sorry to have to do this.
	I wanted to wrap it up with a couple of final thoughts.
	That's fine.
	Because we're talking about premeditated murder.
	Which is legal through the policies that have been deployed in all of our cities and the implementation of pre-planned decisions.
	And people need to understand that the climate action plans that have been approved in all of your cities are genocide programs.
	The massive restriction of resources, the illusion that Our petroleum came from fossils.
	Our petroleum is not a fossil fuel.
	It is a renewable.
	It has nothing to do with fossil fuel.
	And yet that is the thread of the deception through all of these plans.
	Type in the name of your city, followed by Climate Action Plan.
	The other aspect is the kind of government we have.
	We have an anticipatory governance based on uncertainty.
	It's based on the precautionary principle.
	Lack of full scientific certainty shall not be used as a reason for postponing cost-effective measures.
	This goes with the deployment of the weapons systems of frequencies and the towers and the cell phones.
	Everything is the precautionary principle.
	And we outline that and discuss that.
	And I encourage everybody to look at the billing inserts in your bills.
	Because Pacific Gas and Electric put a billing insert in and it said, Understanding Electromagnetic Fields, or EMF. And this is an example of the precautionary principle.
	And I'm going to read this because people need to understand how we are being duped.
	And how the world is running on autopilot.
	And we have absolutely no bearing on anything that is going forward.
	And here's right out of the bill.
	The results from many research studies have been evaluated by international, national and California EMF research programs to determine whether EMF poses any health risk.
	Given the uncertainty of the issue, The medical and scientific communities have been unable to conclude that usual residential exposure to EMF caused health effects or to establish any standard or level of residential exposure that is known to be either safe or harmful.
	These conclusions remain unchanged by recent studies.
	So we're running forward on climate messaging They talk about the need for visualization so that we buy the illusion of climate change.
	In other words, showing the horror of the fires, showing the horror of the floods, visually connecting our emotions with technologies that are being used to destroy us.
	And the One World Government, it's not an NWO, a New World Order.
	It's not new.
	It's EarthBank.
	And it is now NOW. We are already in a singularly controlled reality because when you look at these global climate action plans, just as an example, that is a worldwide plan that every country, every city, every municipality in your town has adopted.
	So I wanted to just, I suppose, end by Saying that there are many genocide programs in play, including the climate action plans in your cities that have been approved by your corporate cities that work for the corporation, not for us.
	And I will leave this at this point.
	There are many other things I would like to say because certainly I heard so much while I was in the UK during the conference.
	And I had many people coming up to me from various parts of the world talking about the variety of assaults that they were experiencing.
	And many people know that because we talk about documents, they actually brought documents to me that have been aware of our work.
	And I would love to come back at some point, Carrie, and go over that because people I believe need to see what is happening now in their own backyard to actually start to see the larger picture.
	And when we talked, Alexandra, when you talked about more people needing to know, I think looking at what has been adopted locally and is in play and understanding that will bring people forward faster.
	I am at this point just trying to present information in Cliff Notes Because I don't believe that we have the kind of time that has taken me to devour all these documents and get to the point where I am.
	I don't think we have that time.
	And because I see what is happening escalating at such an increasing rate.
	And the plants, earth suffocation, the reduced amount of foliage, cutting the trees down all over the world to roll in 5G because the foliage...
	Reduces the impact of the frequencies, the pulse frequencies, by the way.
	And it's a multi-layered surveillance grid with cameras on the ground, every aspect of being metered.
	So I would recommend people go to StopTheCrime.net.
	We're posting regularly.
	We are boots on the ground.
	We go to many local meetings to show you Exactly what is transpiring so that you can make the leaps that you're able to make as you realize the reality that we're in.
	So I appreciate the time that we've all shared in this roundtable, Carrie and Alexandra, and thank you so much.
	Thank you.
	And what I'd like to do is give Alexandra a chance to talk.
	Understanding, I'm sorry, that we've actually run out of time here.
	Once again, this always happens, it seems, but it might be, you know, One-on-one might be a little easier to get more information out, especially if you've got Debra on board simply because she's got such a great wealth of information always.
	But, you know, here you have the stage for the moment.
	Alexandra, if you want to bring in some comments and some overviews or whatever, and then also wrap up your comments if you don't mind.
	Yeah, I will say just a few short things that I don't underestimate that the Chinese telecom company, the problem is that it's Chinese, Huawei,
	for other governments, but The other option is Ericsson Nokia, and despite the fact that I have lived most of my life in Sweden,
	I am more afraid of Ericsson, because I know that Markus Wallenberg or Wallenberg family, billionaire family, Swedish family, It's linked to Ericsson, and Markus Wallenberg is on the steering committee of the Bilderberg Group, which is, for me, much worse.
	It's newer order for me.
	And that the Westerners are warning for Huawei.
	We know that the RFID chip, these satellites, And 5G, which is also carcinogenic, but I'm speaking about the surveillance component, that the New World Order is more from Western countries than EU countries,
	so I'm more afraid of Ericsson, that they want to have the monopole, so they...
	I don't say bad things about Huawei, but I don't underestimate that it's Chinese in another country.
	It's dangerous.
	I believe it's best not to have 5G, of course.
	Then I would say that I'm not so naive and stupid that I would believe that the courts here could do something.
	I have been talking before about And other types of court, like People's Court of True Justice, International Court of...
	People's Court of True Justice.
	But if I would...
	I have to have the evidence that these courts that are now in work are not sufficient.
	They are not working.
	The judges have a formal competence from the school, but not the The real competence.
	If I have to show the evidence and it's with the material that I have, for example, from Deborah.
	So I want to say that I don't, of course, don't believe that these judges and these courts will do so much good for us.
	Right now.
	And also, the Illuminati, they have the principles that we have in all kinds of fields.
	They have prepared them for us, and they have been working for those principles in hundreds of years or in thousands of years.
	So we should have our principles and start to work And you can see it here, Freemasons.
	We know that Freemasons are involved in some negative activities for humanity.
	They shouldn't even be allowed, as I see it.
	The top Freemasons know that they are doing criminal stuff.
	Sure.
	But we have, for example, here a private university that is, when you see their announcement, you can see how Dr.
	Catherine Horton calls it.
	I don't remember.
	But you can see that these people are Freemasons and they are educating Educating students in criminology.
	So they have taken over, of course, education and all aspects.
	So I just wanted to say that I'm not so naive and With this legal system now and I want to warn for the sterilization.
	They want to sterilize people without their knowledge and consent by air, beverages, water, and also we have to stop them, the Illuminati.
	So they want to have the air controlled reproduction.
	But it's all for me right now.
	And thank you so much, Carrie, and thank you so much, Deborah.
	Okay, and thank you very much.
	Absolutely.
	And, you know, I'm sorry for the limited time here.
	Obviously, this is basically our situation.
	Two hours is really the maximum that anyone will watch a video for if they last that long.
	So...
	That's what we found over the time.
	And even two hours is extremely long.
	But I know these are all very important topics and they could all be discussed one by one, you know, in quite depth.
	So, you know, there's always that option to consider.
	So I want to thank everyone for watching and for taking the time and for the people in the chat room.
	I'm afraid we haven't had time to answer questions.
	Hope that we've raised some very interesting topics.
	I, for one, and I think you would both agree that we're not giving up on humanity.
	We do think that we have a lot of obstacles in front of us, and I am Convinced that we are equal to the task as it happens.
	That doesn't mean every single one of our members will survive the coming years necessarily.
	Of course, we all sooner or later will leave this sector.
	We may reincarnate and come back, but that's the fate of the situation at the moment in this particular sector, 3D going into 4D. So it is worth the time to understand what the obstacles are, to pick your battles when you learn things by listening to us,
	to continue to do your own research and to decide where it is you want to put your energy and make your own plans as to how you want to combat it.
	And also, there's always the fact that the stronger you are, The more evolved, re-evolved, if you want to call it back, that you become.
	And this involves activating Kundalini, activating your chakras, reaching higher levels of enlightenment, etc.
	The more you can bring to the world and to your children and the people around you.
	So this is also a way, if you will, to, in a sense, peacefully fight the battle.
	But it is just as important a way of moving forward.
	So I did want to leave things on a positive light here and have people understand why it is that we take the time to reveal the deception and to bring out the truth about a lot of the negative things that are not understood widely and not released, of course, widely.
	So this is why we do what we do.
	Again, I want to thank both these wonderful women for coming on the show and for bringing their own energy and their own side to the story and information that they've Researched and discovered over their lives and recent investigations as well.
	And I hope you've enjoyed it.
	Thank you very much.
	I'll be back tomorrow at 1pm with an interview about the alien autopsy with Colin Wolford.
	And that'll be at 1pm tomorrow.
	And so thank you for watching.
	And please do consider donating.
	I don't know if Deborah and or Alexandra have places to donate on their sites, but certainly do look for donate buttons.
	I know that my work requires donations to continue and we are quite low on funds at this time.
	So again, thank you for watching and take care and have a good night.
	Bye-bye.
	Thank you, Carrie.
	Goodbye.
	Be safe, everyone.
	Goodbye.
	Thank you.
	Okay, so have a good night, and I'll be back tomorrow.

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